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[plush umbra]

(i don't remember the actual stats so maybe it's better than i remember)

[odd helm]

And you save on some mobility penalties from using a buckler

It's not as good as a dedicated shield but it's surprisingly viable~

[plush umbra]

aahhh bad memory ^^"

[odd helm]

Same with 2h weapons I've found, the battleaxe is a beast at parrying and killing abominations

[plush umbra]

that i'm very familiar with personally, being an atgeir main

[dense tide]

i ram the cart to the ward inside dvergr house and rebuild their house. If I put wand inside, will it protect them from the monsters?

[tepid prawn]

a new ward? it does not protect anyone from monsters

[dense tide]

wat about the building? will it increase the HP of the building?

[tepid prawn]

the ward only stops other players opening chests and doors etc and will alert you if something is getting damaged, thats all it does

[tepid prawn]

no

[dense tide]

thanks!

[tepid prawn]

oh I forgot, it also looks cool 🙂

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[hard gale]

god morgen!

I got a question, how much skills is lost on death n how much does the lower difficulties lower it to?

[nocturne wolf]

It’s 5% at default. World modifiers can set it to 1%, 2.5%, 7.5% and 100%

[hard gale]

sweet, thank you.

now I wonder if I should do 2.5% or 1%, I just know 5% is too much for me. never got a skill much past 40 in over 300 hours lol

[nocturne wolf]

As you play more you’ll be losing your skills less

[hard gale]

yea but you'd think id see some improvement in 300 hours :p

i'll just have it lowered in my own world anyways, I usually play on my buddies world n he keeps the setting default

[ionic iron]

I’m the same, 1500hrs and still mostly 40s if I keep at default. I dropped it to 2.5 and that’s good for me, if I play conservative and don’t die I can get my skills to 60 ish

Well that was before Ashlands PTB, my run skill was 80 I think. Now it’s in ruins

[opal prairie]

I hope they'll do some tweaking to skill training, some skills train really easy others not at all.
I have like 40+ in elemental magic but around 10 in blood magic, while I use both very heavily but the shield often lasts its full duration and the skeletons and troll do good work but in ashlands they serve more as a distraction and often get ranged down and can't do any damage, so no skill is gained.

[hard gale]

yea its probably a skill issue but I dislike how grindy some skills are, makes the skill loss devastating

[hard gale]

I lowered mine to 2.5, hoping it helps me lol

[rocky gust]

Best place to grind skele trophies?

[opal prairie]

Swamp, skeleton spawner.

[jolly kernel]

good morning fellas, been some time since I've been around

There's been some words on how the update that is in PTB is going? It's been some time and I've barely heard anything from the devs, I guess there is some summer vacation involved with that but still, found it weird that I haven't heard anything

[green remnant]

Guys help

I'm literally tweaking here

THERE'S DRAUGRS IN MEADOWS

PLUS I HAVE TWO EITHYRS ON MY MAP

What in the world is going on here

[merry pebble]

only at certain distance from spawn 🙂 and each boss has multiple altar locations

[green remnant]

Whats with the draaugrs help

There's these houses right in meadows and there's draugrs in every house

[merry pebble]

they have some villages in meadows, you can ignore those if you want but they are a good source of entrails

[green remnant]

I WANNA MAKE THIS MY OWN BASE

I thought its a bug but nah uhhhh I'm eating them up it's a perfect place for a base

[merry pebble]

then go kill them off 🙂 (also your caps lock seems to be stuck 😉 )

[abstract ivy]

hi guys im new here is there like one giant server where everyone on the discord plays?

[green remnant]

I'm just so hyped my fault

[merry pebble]

nope, game is for 1-10 players

but if you want servers then we have #1024264966712340510 🙂

[opal prairie]

No, there are some modded servers that can have more than 10 players and maybe you can find them in #1024264966712340510 .

[honest rose]

@green remnant Where's your Server I will help

[hard gale]

necks are so cute

[lost loom]

Is there no channel for the board game yet?

[merry pebble]

why would there be?

[lost loom]

they are essentially different games, only sharing the names of things and not much more hahah

for example I want to ask what are the languages planned for the crowfunding

[normal vine]

the queen is such a shit boss i cant

that spew attack was absolutely obnoxious

still cant get over of how hard of a boss she is

[hidden gorge]

She's much better as part of a group. Moreso than any other boss I'd say

[opal prairie]

With magic she was rather easy, the only boss I haven't died to so far.
Skeletons with bubble as distraction, ember staff to kill all the extra's quickly and keep on kiting her around.

[deft cargo]

I noticed the battleaxes have a special jumping attack that I can do sometimes

does anyone know exactly how the inputs work?

[merry pebble]

do you mean the big two handed axe or the two smaller axes you hold in each hand?

[deft cargo]

big two handed one

its a fast slash that goes from left to right

[merry pebble]

well most weaapond have secondary attacks, on pc you do it when clicking on mmb (middle mouse button)

[deft cargo]

its not that

I think it may be a bug

Ill post a video #memes-and-clips message

[weary badger]

Can I play with anyone im a bit new

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 🙂

[opal prairie]

#1024264966712340510 is the place for that, either post something yourself or browse at your leisure.

[weary badger]

Tanks

[merry pebble]

you just jumped and attacked...

[deft cargo]

That's not the correct attack

[azure yacht]

The board game hasn't even been released

[distant field]

It is likely that Iron Gate have little to no knowledge of that. Licensing was probably done through Coffee Stain. And even they likely have little to no knowledge of those things. You would probably need to reach out to MOOD (the publishers of the board game), or maybe look on BGG to see if it’s been asked and answered there…

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/423577

[vital harness]

No one shares good seeds

Seems like people used to

[merry pebble]

well the history of most of channels was wiped unfortunatelly, it will take time to recover things like seeds that took years to gather

[vital harness]

old seeds are invalid now

The most famous valheim seed everyone knows nolonger works

[opal prairie]

There are some good biomes I played in:
gLESUvIPG6
HHcLC5acQt
BEEBObeebo (Only one I remember it has all the bosses except the queen and fader close by the spawn and also a maypole close to spawn.)

[keen cliff]

Maybe search for seeds in the valheim Reddit. Plenty of posts there.

I wonder if there's a way I can engineer it so mobs fall into my moat but can't get back out

Need a slide trap lol

[plush umbra]

morning

[distant field]

How does using tames for base defense work?

Don’t they just wander off if not contained? And if contained, how do they get to the enemies?

[keen cliff]

That's what I'm trying to solve above. I have a deep deep moat full of wolves. But unless the enemies just fall in there, the wolves are useless. I could harpoon big monsters, but I wanted it to be automated. Blobs raid really did a number on the wolves.

[fickle urchin]

You scream
I?

[keen cliff]

I think some mobs might try to jump the moat, hit the wall, and then fall into the moat. Seekers for example.

I wonder if I lined the rim of the moat with 45 degree roof pieces if that could cause mobs to fall in

They do want to attack the wolves. Just need a little help to get in there

[keen cliff]

i'm trying to prevent them from running wild and reproducing too much and killing FPS. not that i know how much of a risk that is

[ember kraken]

It's possible to get earthwalls to just the right angle that enemies line up close to it, and starts sliding downward, or sometimes might need a little push. But can't walk back up.

It's generally pretty tricky, and I have only pulled it off on purpose a couple of times. But did use it to make enemies fall down a thin chute down to my army of lox.

I don't think I'd try to do that for the entire outer side of a moat though.

[keen cliff]

yeah, if it's tricky, it's probably good enough to set it up at a few spots

i will experiment with the 45 roof later tonight i think, it's a fast test

[ember kraken]

It worked very well for me, since I made a single opening in the earth walls around (this was my crazy lox farm, and I ended up digging the lox down 8 meter, and the walls up 8 meter, for 16meter difference and they still lox-siege-towered ove and escaped!)

[keen cliff]

lox are crazy. i have a farm of them too, and they love standing on each other.

[ember kraken]

Mostly in order to lead the enemies close enough so they could get inside, and stop making my stupix lox siege tower above my corners.

[keen cliff]

and i'm dug down as deep as i can also

[ember kraken]

Should still have a couple of pictures from that farm.

[vital harness]

HHcLC5acQt is a straight out lie.

[opal prairie]

@rianumeeves Huh?

[ember kraken]

Oooh, I kinda like HHcLC5acQt even if it's a bigger landmass than I usually prefer.

[keen cliff]

you have VERY clean moat walls. your terraforming skill is chef's kiss

[ember kraken]

It's my one building skill in this game :p I like terraforming more than building >_<

[cyan ocean]

is it just me or are enemies relentless in following you??

[keen cliff]

they follow for a certain time period after they make an attack. they give up when they can't get a swipe at you after a certain time

[cyan ocean]

yeah, well that makes the chases infinite when something around equal your speed is chasing you

[keen cliff]

you can sprint, they can't. you need more stamina and/or manage sprinting vs walking better

[cyan ocean]

i'm in the mistlands for the first time ever, and i can't really get away from one starred seekers. cam

[keen cliff]

i've been able to outrun every single mob in the game so far, when needed

okay, i haven't done mistland mobs yet. No experience past plains. But you've been able to outrun earlier mobs, haven't you? or is this the first time in the game you've tried to run away?

[rugged solar]

the heavy armor makes it a lot harder to run away from mobs

[ember kraken]

Seekers can catch up to you if they fly, otherwise you can outrun them. They don't always fly, if they do wait for them to get close, let them initiate the landing attack, dodge, and run.

[keen cliff]

if i'm serious about running, i unequip weapon and shield. i also try not to wear ALL heavy armor. just 1 piece usually

[rugged solar]

it’s worth just taking the fenris armor to the mistlands for early trips

[ember kraken]

I'd say no. I prefer heavy armour in mistlands. I just did a play where I ended up low on iron and lots of frostcaves so went with Fenrir armour fully upgraded into mistlands, and it made the mines horrible, I kept dying to normal no star seekers. I couldn't block enough with shield.

It would probably work if I went more for bow/atgeir/demolisher style, and just try to not get hit, and run away if they get close.

[rugged solar]

oh yeah not with any close melee weapon

you could bring both. fenris for normal exploring and carapace/padded for mines

[ember kraken]

Think that they just damaged enough through normal blocks that I'd die in 3 hits, if 2 hits rapidly I got staggered and would die on the next hit anyways. So yeah I really missed my heavy armour.

[keen cliff]

i do want to experiment some time with all heavy armor + tower shield play style. maybe i'm a masochist

[vital harness]

It's a lie. I tried inputting it when making a new world, and it's not the same.

[keen cliff]

english may not be your native language, but "it's a lie" isn't the right phrasing here

[cyan ocean]

the only place i

[keen cliff]

more like "that seed isn't working properly for me when i try it"

[cyan ocean]

've found to contain the red things i need to make the mistlands stuff is guarded by a 1 starred seeker

it's camping the entrance, what do i do?

[fair cairn]

kill it?

[ember kraken]

If it's standing at the enterance, you can go in, smack it and go right out again to heal up, rince and repeat.

[fair cairn]

kite it away?

[cyan ocean]

it's on the inside of the damn mine

[fair cairn]

then do what jon said

enter, smack it, leave, repeat

[cyan ocean]

another problem, there's one right outside aswell

[ember kraken]

Then probably deal with the one outside first. Hopefully you have more space to move around there.

[cyan ocean]

i don't get why they have to spawn in places you literally HAVE to go when you just enter the biome, it's impossible to kill these things with early armor

[keen cliff]

i'll try not to victim blame, but why did you run into the mine without dealing with the outside one first? any instance dungeon, i always clear the outside, drop a workbench and portal. maybe you need to step back and look at your tactics

[ember kraken]

Hmm, I didn't feel like that. Going into mistlands with padded, BM shield and frostner, 1h2s foods I did decently well.

I still had to learn enemy movement and attacks, and died a few times. struggled with some enemies, especially 2* seekers and 1-2* soldiers in the start.

I'll admit that my last game, not having the iron, and going into Mistland mines with Fenrir armour was a bad experience, but that was also something I could have done something about. (Gone and found more iron to make padded)

[cyan ocean]

they're impossible to get away from and almost impossible to kill, unless you can do some scummy entrance-exit strat. Had to shoot the MFer dusins of times to kill

[keen cliff]

what is your gear? and food

[opal prairie]

Strange.

[cyan ocean]

the best i can make. Besides, it's not only the one starred ones, the normal ones i have to hit like 5 times with frostner max level

[ember kraken]

I found seekers to be worse in situations where they can group up on you (mines) than when you have the area to move around. When fighting them I always try to find open space outside of the mines. And in the mines I tend to try to lure them into chokes.

[keen cliff]

sounds like you just want to complain then? that's cool, people can stop suggesting things at that point. venting is a thing i guess

[cyan ocean]

we'll you've not tried the mistlands before, they're always in groups and you can't really run away from them. The terrain makes it hard enough by itself, but you literally can't see anything even with the whipser thingy

[keen cliff]

i haven't, that's true. but lots of people here have gotten past it. so there must be a strategy that works for those people. but i also know that there's a HUGE difference in how some people play the game, and some strategies just don't work very well.

[rugged solar]

ranged and aoe weapons are good for seekers

bm atgeir, iron sledge, you can throw the fang spear

[cyan ocean]

fr? aha. i have to shoot the darn things 10 times with needle arrows and dragr fang

[rugged solar]

oh well bows are only good with high bow skill

imo

[ember kraken]

Seekers resist physical damage, at least from the front. I know soldiers have a weak spot behind that doesn't, I don't remember about seekers.

So elemental damage works better. Frost arrows for example will do more damage than needle. They'll both show grey numbers, because they resist the piercing, but look at the damage numers, frost still does lot more damage.

[keen cliff]

yeah, they resist blunt, pierce, slash

[rugged solar]

they resist it but they’re weak to it at their back

[ember kraken]

If you get them 1 by 1, and learn the timing of their attacks parrying them and smacking them still works.

[rugged solar]

so any aoe attack that hits their back does massive damage

[keen cliff]

A heavy attack from an Atgeir, particularly Blackmetal or Himminafl, can stagger normal and even single-star Seekers. The spinning swing is also very effective at forcing them off ledges, allowing the player a moment to catch their breath or retreat to safety.

[ember kraken]

My main strategy against seekers and soldiers first time was parry and alt attack with Frostner.

[keen cliff]

that's good to know. heavy attack can stagger 1star seekers

[spiral gate]

Guys, this game is really easy

[cyan ocean]

alright, i killed the dusins of seekers, but now there's a seeker soldier? i've shot this 6 times already and that took 1/8th of it's total health

[spiral gate]

Simply die 200 times in a row and any bunch of mobs is dead

[ember kraken]

Soldiers are tanky, they're basically lox

[cyan ocean]

it is literally easy, everything just has insane damage and health + always being out of stamina

[keen cliff]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Aggressive_creature_strategies#Seeker

Seeker Soldiers are unusually durable and are resistant to all physical damage. Attempting to kill a Seeker Soldier using bow or crossbow without elemental damage is resource-inefficient and will take a long time.

[ember kraken]

But honestly, learning new monsters and finding out how to beat them was a large part of what I find fun in this game.

[spiral gate]

Exactly, I don't read about all the new things until I will experience them

[cyan ocean]

hard to do without dying, especially when it's so horrible having to get your stuff back

[keen cliff]

yeah, i enjoyed when i was first learning the game. the early "oh shit a troll oh fuck", and the transition to "oh, nice, a troll, free loot and mining help", even with the same gear

[spiral gate]

And only then (probably) will read some articles about these mobs

First Gjall was really scary xDD

[ember kraken]

You'll die in the game, that's a given. So the goal should be to find ways to make it as easy as possible to get things back. Finding safe places to place portals, so you can quickly get back to your stuff etc.

[distant field]

I still find Gjalls scary, and I know I can take them out easily.

[cyan ocean]

yeah, well you can't really do anything against the visibility and terrain coupled with fast enemies that won't ever stop chasing you

[spiral gate]

Btw, does everyone use a hoe and 3-4 stacks of stone to make a safe place anywhere? xD

[ember kraken]

I terraform way too much.

[cyan ocean]

no, it looks ugly

[spiral gate]

These ground walls are so OP. Ugly, but efficient

[distant field]

Do you have either of the things that help with visibility? There's a thing that will help with the terrain too.

[cyan ocean]

i've got the whisper thing, haven't been able to make anything else that helps

literally just got into the mistlands for the first time

[distant field]

So you have the thing that follows you?

[cyan ocean]

yep

[ember kraken]

The visibility and terrain of mist are horrible, no argument there. I really don't like the biome. But I've mostly gotten used to the combat, and with full plains gear I don't really struggle there any longer. Having learned the enemies and how to deal with them. I don't feel that I can't outrun seekers, it's more that Mistlands means running away itself is dangerous because of sight and terrain.

So I mostly just learned to kill enemies as I meet them, isolate them and kill them off 1 by 1. And use the terrain against them.

[distant field]

Cool. That's the most important thing. There's something else that will help with the terrain. But you'll need a few things from the Mistlands to make it.

[cyan ocean]

i should make the sword, right?

[distant field]

Yes. It's good. Like will take you into the next biome good.

[cyan ocean]

damn, thanks :)

[distant field]

So, you have all the mats for it?

[cyan ocean]

i think so

[distant field]

if so you should also have the mats for the thing that helps with terrain...

oh, unless you don't have the required crafting bench...

[cyan ocean]

i haven't unlocked it yet i think, so i don't think i do

[distant field]

not done a mistlands dungeon yet?

[cyan ocean]

is it the lantern you're thinking abt? 😅 Maybe it's because i haven't upgraded the black forge yet

[distant field]

no.

[hidden gorge]

dungeons are frustratingly rare, and the critical loot from them is as well -- significant chance of not getting anything worthwhile.

[cyan ocean]

how nice

[hidden gorge]

yeah, just don't freak out if you don't find anything, just keep exploring

[ember kraken]

Ugh yeah the Mines and the cores are a significant pain point with Mist. It's like the burial chambers of BF and surtling cores, just worse, much worse. I really dislike that part.

[spiral gate]

It's so crucial to clean all the rooms one by one

[serene hollow]

Pray to RngJezzus on the mines. I have had several play throughs where it took 5 to 8 mines to get everything. I have also had one that I got everything in two mines that were really close to each other and queen was almost next to that. RngJeezus holds the key to your mistlands future... give thanks when rewarded and try not to curse when coming up empty.

[near furnace]

Erm. Its the other way around. We where the ones working with MOOD on the game from start to finish 😅

[near furnace]

That's a question for MOOD to answer on the Kickstarter page. Ask there

[distant field]

Oh! Nice. It's usually not that way round. Good to see they're working so closely with you.

[wooden tapir]

my moder fight almost got ruined by a stone golem 😠

[near furnace]

not the entire team tho. but we have 2 pro developers here with experience so we just sent our best for the job 😉

[rocky gust]

So does the ashlands have bosses?

[distant field]

Nice. I do a bit of voluntary stuff in play testing, development, and co-design on the board game side of things. Not had the chance to work with an IP yet. But so many IP-based board games are licensed by the publisher level and often the dev teams don't speak to each other. So you get something 'based on' the IP but not really reflective of the gameplay.

[vocal rivet]

Like every biome it has a boss, yes. There's also a miniboss.

[near furnace]

yeah.. but we own our own game pretty much completly. and want to have a say in all things our logo and name ends up on 🙂

[distant field]

The way it should be!

[keen cliff]

just read somewhere... here? Reddit? About someone mining out underneath the Elder shrine and using it as a portal hub location. That sounds brilliant to me, and I guess i know what I'm doing after work lol

[hidden gorge]

single portal? perfectly fine location. portal hub? ehh.. I guess if you like small cramped underground spaces

[manic timber]

guys when wood gets weatherd can you repair it or do you need to rebuild it ?

[hidden gorge]

repair -- but neither costs you resources as you get 100% of materials back

[manic timber]

alr ty

[ember kraken]

90% of my main bases are in my batcaves under elder -_-' I love that place too much.

[fair cairn]

also, it will never drop below 50% HP from weather

unless i guess i got set on fire in a firestorm in ashlands or something

[robust delta]

dear god

im finally caught up

defeated queen after 3 pulls with the deaths being silly and then i joined my friend's world as we sail to the ashlands. we all died and so did our portal, and then we did a fuck it all or nothing charge with another drakkar and we won lol. after like 2 hours we got a foothold set up, and here we are

one step closer to trollstav, and none know it exists currently 😏

[hearty niche]

I'm a huge fan of the band Tool and they have similar policies about their stuff. I've never heard of someone giving up creative control and ending happy about it.

[wooden tapir]

i think i just fell asleep as a raid was starting and it skipped the entire raid

[robust delta]

lol

bye bye stirred cauldron

[wooden tapir]

i didnt even think that could happen

i heard draugers outside as i fell asleep, woke up and no draugers

[robust delta]

jumpscare

[manic timber]

guys should i put portals inside my base or outside ?

[serene hollow]

Depends on if you like the sound of them being connected when you are close, how large your base is inside, and the look of them inside or not. I have 1 portal outside my base that ports me to my portal hub that takes me to all the places I wanted to leave a permanent portal. Less clutter at my base that way and I always build as small and efficiently as possible.

[manic timber]

where would be a good place for a portal hub ?

[hidden gorge]

they're teleporters -- you can place them anywhere and they'll do the exact same thing. Just whatever you think looks good aesthetically

[robust delta]

i got a feeling you may hate my base

[serene hollow]

I think the large bases are cool I just don't spend the time to build them. I am too impatient to spend the time to gather all the mats to build large sprawling bases. I rarely even have floors. Level the ground and the dirt is good enough for my viking Bjorn Bald and his adventures.

[manic timber]

is there a point of getting iron armour if you can just craft a pick and go get silver armour ?

[rugged solar]

ROOT ARMOR

[hidden gorge]

it can be tricky to find silver, but it's certainly a strategy and quite doable

[serene hollow]

Yes unless you are really good at combat. Bronze armor or troll armor is going to be a little weak in the mountains vs wolves. If you are really good at combat and can avoid damage, you can just go naked but still I don't advise it. Iron armor lets you survive hits from higher next biome mobs.

[vapid granite]

anybody else having the game crash everytime you try and start a new world or is that just a me issue?

[serene hollow]

Personally I do the mountains with level 3 troll helm, legs and level 2 or 3 root chest. I do take an iron buckler and ancient spear. Buckler parry is just OP and lasts through plains easy enough.

[rugged solar]

parrying wolves seems dangerous

[hidden gorge]

quite

[manic timber]

so i can get silver armour before the swap boss ?

[rugged solar]

i just use a spear against wolves since it attacks so fast you stagger them before they get the jump on you

[robust delta]

mine's relatively small but it is very messy and i suppose it depends on perspective whether it's efficient or not

[rugged solar]

u wont be able to locate silver

although there are some ways around that

[karmic panther]

use stagbreaker the big hammer

[ember kraken]

When you start a new world, don't alt tab out, and just let the game work. It takes a few minutes to create the thing the first time, and if you interrupt it it crash. Just wait it out.

[ember kraken]

The intended way is to fight Swamp boss first, to get the item that helps you find silver. That said it's possible to find silver without it, either by just being lucky to find a silver vein sticking out of the ground, or just dig your way through the entire mountain until you stumble across one (I've done that once), or ||use Stagbreaker to find it||

[keen cliff]

well crap. turns out the Elder i found is too close to water. so digging gets me to water. i'll need to find another location if I want to do this. And I /really/ don't want to aimlessly search the world

[ember kraken]

Ah yeah, that's like the worst thing that happens to me in an entire game, finding Elder altar in the water -_-' That's near enough to make me abandon a savegame!

[keen cliff]

i am unreasonably bummed. i don't want to look at my map seed either. ah well, i'll recover i guess

[ember kraken]

You can also practise making underground bases under big rocks. The copper veins in BF are usually the easiest. I do this a lot as well.

I guess I just want to play a dwarf or something >_<

[keen cliff]

lol

[ember kraken]

Going to be a lot of trial and failure though, as if you're unlucky you suddenly crack a piece of stone and make a hole in the roof... not much you can do about it. Eventually you start getting a somewhat "feel" for how likely it is to happen or not. But yeah still happens.

[keen cliff]

yeah, i don't think i'm going to go down that path haha

[ember kraken]

My first time into mountain, I hated swamp and refused to go there, so instead went into mountain. I ended up diggin trenchest across the whole thing and place fireplaces. But at the top I found a bunch of 4-5 or so big rocks lumped together at the top of a mountain top. So I dug my way under all of it, and built a pretty fun dwarf base under it. don't have any screen shots of that though.

Was difficult since the floor was tilted, so I had to make things with a lot of smaller plateaus in various shapes to make things fit.

[keen cliff]

you definitely have dwarf tendencies

[velvet widget]

Anyone wanna go into the planes nd split the loot?

[keen cliff]

hmm, now that I'm not building a base under the Elder, I don't know what to do. Hmm. I guess i really am bummed 🙂

[ember kraken]

Build a treehouse base in swamp. Always interesting to figure out how to connect floors through all the trees, and how to make use of the seemingly random floor space you get.

[keen cliff]

i kinda want to build an automatic greydwarves farm. Maybe i'll go fish for a bunch of pufferfish for that. i have an automatic chicken farm i setup yesterday and it's hilarious

[grand ravine]

i giggle every time i hear a chicken pop.

[keen cliff]

it hasn't gotten old yet!

[grand ravine]

awo-bkaw!-ooooo

[keen cliff]

i can't even do anything good with chicken meat yet, but man it's nice to have infinite feathers

[warped mica]

same

[keen cliff]

oh, i'm kinda tempted to try setting up a fish farm. though i know they don't work that well

[warped mica]

i would just go to my local fish cave

i found 2 of those apparently they're rare

[keen cliff]

in the frost cave? yeah, i found one in this seed also

[warped mica]

nice yeah the frost cave

i found a 2 star troll then right after an abomination spawned

[keen cliff]

i probably need more blackmetal and iron... meh

oh, i guess i could upgrade from silver shield to black metal shield for not much black metal

[hard gale]

I havent got to that point yet, but i've heard you dont actually need that much black metal compared to like, iron

but I guess thats obvious lol, iron is in just about everything it feels like

[keen cliff]

yeah, iron you need a lot because it's not just swamp tier, but later also

[warped mica]

yeah i would upgrade to black metal shield

i ran out of so much blackmetal

[hidden gorge]

1k+ hours and not a single one have I found

[robust delta]

my first time playing i got 2 haha. still my first time world

reallly huge starting island with elder there. i was getting lucky till swamp shenanigans (turns out there was wayy more swamps in south than north. rip) and then was fun and games till moder was near wher queen spawns in, while being surrounded in mostly mistlands 😭

lots of luck and then a price to pay for luck

[plush umbra]

hi guys i love this game

[tepid prawn]

whats a good insult to use for someone that doesn't remove stumps

[hidden gorge]

/ban playername

[keen cliff]

dang, atgeir needs 120 black metal.

[jagged wind]

not that hard to obtain, just clear few fuling camps

[keen cliff]

yeah, it's not that bad. atgeir + what i need for crafting later is only 140

i'm sitting on 60 already to be transported to smelt, and i have 28 remaining from my first smelting batch

[warped mica]

270 something hours and i found 2 lol

[wooden tapir]

stupid shamans keep destroying my crops

[fervent zinc]

does abyone have any tips foe yagluth im thinking about quitting no matter what i do i literally cant beat him

[robust delta]

shaman's jealous smh

[warped mica]

what level armor n stuff do you got

cuz i can tell you what i did

[fervent zinc]

ive just got all the balck metal and plains stuff like padded armor but they are level 1, is upgrades necessary?

[robust delta]

try using frostner on yaggy, drink fire resist meads and have heal + stam meads. dodge the initial hit of the aoe self fire slam he does, and run around when meteors spawn in. keep goin' crazy till ur on low hp and then wait to heal to trade more hits. carry extra meads incase fight is a while, and ig upgrade gear if u got. eat 2 health foods and 1 stam food
that's what i did to live. i suppose eikthyr forsaken power can work

[warped mica]

uh yeah i upgraded to max but that was a little overprepare

[fervent zinc]

alr alr

ty

[warped mica]

i would atleast go to like upgrade 2 ,and i used bonesmass, and had fire res

[robust delta]

g'luck bro, tho i would stick around to hear what mega has to say as well 👀

[warped mica]

eh my advice sucks

[robust delta]

i type a little bit too slow 😢

[fervent zinc]

ok

[warped mica]

most people never take it 🥲

[fervent zinc]

thanks

[warped mica]

your welcome

how do you get the feather cape cuz i have no idea

i like just defeated yagluth a month ago or smth and now im getting into the mistlands

[merry pebble]

you need magic table from mistlands

[warped mica]

oh

[robust delta]

this may sound crazy, but i think feathers may be a part of it 😆
but u need i think it's called galdr table

[warped mica]

what i thought you needed blackmetal and water :OOO 😲

[merry pebble]

would make quite dark soup

[warped mica]

lol

[robust delta]

aw man, i realized i need to get me some mistlands tier'd sutling cores 😢

need mah shield generator

[vocal rivet]

Huh? No, you need black cores, not surtling cores.

[warped mica]

[merry pebble]

i believe thats what they mean 🙂 thats why "mistlands tier" tho might be better to say just cores

[vocal rivet]

But they're completely different things, they just have the word core in common.

[warped mica]

[robust delta]

i said it that way to avoid spoiling cuz i wasn't sure if mega wanted that.
surtling cores are found in a "dungeon" and so are black cores, so called it mistland tiered surtling core

[warped mica]

i just found a 2 star fuling:D

[robust delta]

uh oh lol

[warped mica]

yeah i died cuz i wanted screen shots:')

[robust delta]

send me that ss 😂
it must of been glorious

[warped mica]

lol they were horrible cuz i was in a panic lol

[keen cliff]

a void command to trigger a screen shot is a great idea now that i think about it

i'm absolutely going to set that up now for ingame stuff

[wooden tapir]

7 frost caves later, no cultist trophy (:

[warped mica]

2 frost caves later 2 cultist trophies:D

that was like months ago tho

[keen cliff]

don't rub it in. (I got a trophy from my first cultist kill ever.)

[warped mica]

dont rub it in (so did i)

[keen cliff]

😆

[warped mica]

😂

[keen cliff]

rng is a fickle mistress

[warped mica]

always gotta pray to rngesus

[keen cliff]

oh man, upgraded to black metal shield, and the knockback is farther than silver, and i can't do my usual block squito and hit it. now i block and it's out of range to smack it lol

[warped mica]

rip ive gotten used to it

but sometimes i miss and im like

[robust delta]

even better lolol

[keen cliff]

dag nabbit

[warped mica]

[robust delta]

now time for tower shield xdd

[warped mica]

no tower shields

[robust delta]

but the funny knockback 😢

[keen cliff]

i do want to try an all heavy armor + tower shield thing at some point, but not now 🙂

[warped mica]

i need fenris armor

[robust delta]

i haven't done tower shield, least fav shield, though i have done heavy armor up to the point of unlocking mage class

[warped mica]

same i hate tower shields

[robust delta]

i like buckler in practice, but reg shields in thematics and fashion i really enjoy

[robust delta]

pretty nice being a brawler. i kinda miss those days lol.
krom is such a beast, and never felt much more like a stalwart defender with carapace shield, but the staffs (staves?) are so cool

[warped mica]

i skipped the bronze armor

bronze armor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< troll armor

[robust delta]

i made the grave mistake of bronze armor and fully upgrading it

[keen cliff]

I did that with bronze armor my first play through. Didn't know any better. This one I knew better and minimized the bronze grind.

[vocal rivet]

Eh, I've always worn bronze armour. Does me just fine. Everyone plays differently.

[keen cliff]

True that! I also full upgrade everything I make. Which is probably a waste

[robust delta]

same. this is my first playthrough

i don't really regret it (for as much as i dramatized it) cuz i was on par to iron armor i think, and elder was a nice roll, though i forget how long bronze age was

[wooden tapir]

sailing without wind 💤

[robust delta]

moder still snoozes

[keen cliff]

It's fine. You're probably better prepared for swamps that way honestly. Especially for a first time.

[robust delta]

yeah haha

it was fun and games till i learned draugr archers. then it was time to take cover

[wooden tapir]

i killed her today, forgot to grab ):

[robust delta]

😨
aww nooo that's so bad

[keen cliff]

Abominations are a pita in the beginning but pierce resist from the chest is amazing. So much help

[wooden tapir]

drauger archers are dangerous, then you build root harnesk and they do nothing

[keen cliff]

My root chest is still amazing in the plains. And I see seekers have a lot of pierce damage too

[wooden tapir]

i think 1 star drauger archers were hitting me for like 5 with lvl 1 harnesk

[robust delta]

wow

[wooden tapir]

yea root harnesk kinda broken

just stay away from fire

[robust delta]

maybe i did sleep on root harnesk. i liked the idea of matching armors and pretend there was an armor set of fashion points 😎
but didn't think the pierce resist was that strong lol

[keen cliff]

I mix and match armor with no shame

[robust delta]

the surtling raid in theory: 😼

[keen cliff]

I just take the chest off if I'm going to fight fuling shamans for instance.

Bare chested fighting. The Viking way.

But now I make fire resist potions so it's not really an issue

[robust delta]

🔥

[wooden tapir]

i just got hunted while in the plains ):

[prime wren]

Hey y'all, we just got to the Plains and I want to build my house in the plains, I'm on a server with a handful of friends and I decided rather than build a big barracks we all share we should all build our own houses wherever and I decided I want mine in the plains. Thing is... I'm not sure what to build... I'm not GREAT at building but I'm okay-ish at it... Any ideas/inpsiration y'all can share?

also, big oof

[keen cliff]

Plains and mountains only

[keen cliff]

Find one of those massive stone. pillars and build up on that?

[prime wren]

It's an idea but not one I'm a fan of.

I actually have a spot, a fuling camp we cleared out, I'm just.... Kinda in the thought process of what do I want to make and how to make it.

[merry pebble]

enjoy the music there 😄

[prime wren]

I have music off... lol

[wooden tapir]

ah, ive never had it happen in plains before

[wooden tapir]

sometimes i do not understand the logic in this game

giant stone pillar floating in the air nothing holding onto it

wont collapse tho

[robust delta]

what's ur favorite music?

[coarse mauve]

magic ✨

[merry pebble]

From the game?

[robust delta]

yeah

[merry pebble]

Crap, i can't choose one, all of them are great

[modern rune]

atleast you can still use the helmet

[robust delta]

think i like the music from fuling camps

something about it makes it sound so tribal, but yet there was once something more, considering how grand it sounds

high and mighty people that have succumbed to such a fate, but yet they are also twisted. gives me feels of dread, reminiscence, and survival

[robust delta]

cauldron is stirring as i go to my mistlands farm. all i got rn is prot staff and ember staff

screw these guys im gonna farm in peace and worry about them later lol

[vocal rivet]

If you're away long enough you might be lucky enough to trigger another event.

[languid snow]

managed to take over a ashlands fort

i made it nice

[wild ether]

anyone know why my map says im in a plains biome but im in the middle of the ocean lol

[vocal rivet]

Because you're actually in a Plains biome. It's just under the water.

[wild ether]

Is that a real bug lol?

[vocal rivet]

A bug? No, it's not a bug.

Why would it be a bug? You know the real ocean has land at the bottom, right?

[wild ether]

nah

[vocal rivet]

Well, it does. And it's the same in Valheim. It only becomes true Ocean biome when it's deeper than 25m.

[languid snow]

ima fight the dragon person

with a alot of askavins

[warped mica]

same lol

[robust delta]

ayyy

[warped mica]

i really want fenris armor now lol

earlier I almost died because I ran out of stamina, a growth was attacking me a lox was attacking me and I had a berserker and 1 star fuling chasing me lol, and I couldn't run away fast enough luckily I didn't die

[robust delta]

i don't mind the slowness of heavy armor

throw me in the pit i'll brawl with them all haha

[warped mica]

lol

i think you may be farther ahead in game too

still haven't beaten the queen

i was just trying to get some flax and i got ambushed 😭

[fickle urchin]

Is vineberry kind of like a grape?

Im a bit confused try to plant them

[vocal rivet]

It needs a surface to grow against.

[tepid prawn]

Yes I grow mine in a vineyard style arrangement, there is good guides out there if you want to google it

[fickle urchin]

Well of that's true can plant it outside ashland?

[tepid prawn]

yes

[fickle urchin]

Like a wall?

[vocal rivet]

Thatd work.

[fickle urchin]

Oh great

[tepid prawn]

see #screenshots how i built it at the start

[fickle urchin]

With a builder's magic
This could look better

[tepid prawn]

That was the start of it, looks much different now

was trying to figure out how to best grow them, spacing and all that

[fickle urchin]

Im running out of blackcore for Shield generator

[tepid prawn]

gotta get back to Mistlands

but yeah my vineyard is in Plains

[rocky gust]

That's the true Viking way

[echo helm]

I’m a few hours into my first playthrough. This game has me pumped for what’s to come

[warped mica]

you are gonna have a nightmare but also the time of your life

[echo helm]

My fence got damaged by a tree I fell and then I lost a lot of boar I spent like 45 mins collecting soooo I hear you lol

[warped mica]

i was fighting a mini boss and i died because of a huge lag spike then i explored the entire cave like 3 times and realized my body disappeared

[echo helm]

That is very sad. I have noticed some lag spikes but hopefully that never happens to me lol

[fickle urchin]

I better move my plantation to my plains base

[warped mica]

yeah sometimes you'll get extremely lucky and other times you'll just get the worst luck

like a couple weeks ago i found a 2 star troll and it fought this abomination that was lucky

but for example i was fighting a gjall and then i accidently hit a dverger and then i got attacked and died

[echo helm]

Eye spied a troll but am too noob to approach

Skeletons still scare me. So idk what most of that means lol

[warped mica]

oh well in the biome after the plains there is a giant flying creature that shoots fire and shoots ticks at you that suck your blood

and a dverger is a friendly guy unless you hit them or break their stuff and if you hit them unprepared you are dead

and im pretty sure they remember you too so that just makes it worse

[echo helm]

Also how do I harvest meat and leather from tamed boars?

[warped mica]

you need to make a butchers knife

it lets you kill them and does something else i forgot tbh

[echo helm]

Oo I haven’t unlocked that yet

[warped mica]

im more focused on loxes now lol

gl with the dragon boss in the mountains it was literally harder than the plains boss

[robust delta]

how unlucky would i be if i chopped down about 8 oak trees and didn't get a single acorn?

[warped mica]

mm unlucky

[languid snow]

i was able to defeat the ashlands boss twice, one for my base, the other for the statue

[warped mica]

oh thats how you get the trophies for decor

[languid snow]

also is the ashlands boss status better then the bonemass or does bonemass still rule as the best boss buff

[warped mica]

i was wondering why i woke up to eikthyr threatening me 🤔

[languid snow]

then spawn him again and beat him again

[warped mica]

bruh i gotta deal with moder again

do you have to gather the same mats to summon them or can you just summon them

[robust delta]

have to gather the same mats

[warped mica]

NOOOO

[robust delta]

3 dragon eggs for moder comin right up

[warped mica]

moder is torturing me again

[robust delta]

10 oak trees and no acorns 😢

[reef walrus]

So is like xbox valheim dead or

[warped mica]

why would it be dead

[reef walrus]

I have found not one single person to play with

Shits my favorite game but like nobody is on it

[warped mica]

what xbox

[reef walrus]

Wym

[tepid prawn]

#1024264966712340510 there is often a lot of servers with crossplay enabled

[warped mica]

like is it only series x or whatever or can i play it on xbox one

[reef walrus]

Doesn't matter i dont think

[warped mica]

lets goooooooooo

[reef walrus]

Im done

[fluid iron]

nice to meet you

[warped mica]

u2

bruh why did i decide to draw bone maw serpent attacking boat in the ashlands

[amber torrent]

how long will it take me to beat the game

[warped mica]

do not utter those words ever again

[fluid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been-2000-years-jesus-gif-25011303

[warped mica]

accurate

[warped mica]

300 hours atleast

[amber torrent]

yo fr?

[warped mica]

average viking yeah

[amber torrent]

i thought this game was liek 20 hours long

[warped mica]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[amber torrent]

getting bronze fricking sucks

[warped mica]

you can skip it like i did i got troll armor instead

[amber torrent]

troll armours better?

[warped mica]

mm i think so

[amber torrent]

so i jsut need the weapons then right?

[warped mica]

thats what i did you dont have to play how you want

[amber torrent]

i have the troll tunic so im almost there

[rotund dust]

Enjoy first playthru, don't rush, enjoy it for it's beauty

[amber torrent]

killing troll more fun than getting bronze honestly

[fluid iron]

tbh man dont even worry about beating the game

[amber torrent]

getting bronze is a pain in the booty

[warped mica]

real you got a long way to go

[fluid iron]

most people dontjust focus on whoever the next boss is

[amber torrent]

nah teh game is fun i jsut wana know how much more i should be expecting

cuz some games i played are fun then they end way too quickly

[warped mica]

alot ALOT more

[fluid iron]

oh guaranteed this one isnt going any where

[warped mica]

like i just killed yagluth when ashlands started

so once you get to yagluth there will prob be atleast a new biome

[amber torrent]

xbox sayign the main game takes 77 hours

[warped mica]

BHAHHAAHAHAH

if it was the that long i would be sad

[fluid iron]

dog im a gamer iykwim and i didnt complete plains until hr 300

[warped mica]

i like enjoying the game playing it for hours especially a game like valheim

[amber torrent]

guys am i able to share the world file

[fluid iron]

just depends on how min-max you go i guess. it can be rushed

[warped mica]

yeah i only got to mistlands at hour 279

[amber torrent]

guys is my friend able to give his world to me

[warped mica]

if you do that you are not a true viking

[fluid iron]

i havent checked but id assume its a simple save file for valheim

checking

[amber torrent]

he barely hops on we wont be getting anywhere he plays like 15 mintues then quits

[amber torrent]

i appreciate

[fluid iron]

it saves here evidently

C:\User"Your User Name"\Appdata\LocalLow\IronGate\Valheim\worlds_local

[amber torrent]

thank you so much

[fluid iron]

gl viking

[warped mica]

yeah you have many foes to come across

[elder sparrow]

Uh… funny situation. I thought it privy to build a portal faced right up against a fortress wall. I thought I’d either portal in and be launched to the top of the wall or on the other side of it. But nope, now I’m stuck inside the fking wall with no way to get out because the walls are impenetrable by everything except catapult and ram. Anyone wanna log into my world and bust me outta here lol!

[warped mica]

i would but if i go to the ashlands i am dead in maybe 5 seconds

[elder sparrow]

So I built a portal right next to the trap portal. There aren’t any enemies around and there’s an Dvger base right next to the fortress that you can run to if things get hot and heavy.

[warped mica]

hm

okay but if i dont see a portal near i am out

[elder sparrow]

I suppose I could just create a new character and build a catapult with it to destroy that part of the wall. lol this is so hilarious.

[amber torrent]

gusy hwere can i send picture of my house

[warped mica]

so how should i get you out

oh wait i dont think i have unlocked the catapult yet

[mild fern]

guys how to send ss

[warped mica]

you cant in this channel

[elder sparrow]

Just pick up the material in my home base, it’ll unlock the recipe

[warped mica]

alr

[mild fern]

which chanel can we ?

[warped mica]

screenshots fan art

some others idrk tbh

yo i dont normally save people from the ashlands so how should i join your server

[elder sparrow]

I’ll send you a DM

[warped mica]

k

[fickle urchin]

I hate mistlands

[warped mica]

same

[tepid prawn]

I have finally started to love it now, the trick is finding some nice mistfree area for a base and making whisplight paths including platforms and stairs etc for sap collection

[warped mica]

i am nowhere near that lol

[lean seal]

Hi, im new to the channel. Are there groups looking for players to start in standard mode?

[tepid prawn]

#1024264966712340510

[lean seal]

Thanks!

[tepid prawn]

you're welcome 🙂 I love the game both solo and on a server with friends

[wintry panther]

any new worlds lookin for a new char?

[gusty sandal]

Hey everyone. Im a bit lost. Do i play on a new solo server or do i join a server where ppl have esentialy defeated bosses already? Any hints like whats the downside of anyof those

[nocturne wolf]

It’s best to start in a new world, when bosses are defeated stronger enemies can spawn in early biomes

[gusty sandal]

Okay cool. Are there any mods or something like that ? Last time i quit in swamp cuz i hate building and didnt wanna spend time mooving wood all around 😅 Like a mod where i can spawn wood at my feet lol

[low warren]

is there a most efficient axe to use for cutting trees, given the better axes use more stamina? or does it turn out using the best one is always best

[tepid prawn]

mostly the best is always best, including the mistlands one (it depends on chop damage which is not displayed when you look at the stats) usually a maxed axe from previous biome is extremely close to a level 1 axe from the new biome, the new one is often 1 chop damage higher (also don't ever make stone axe go flint straight away)

[nocturne wolf]

There are world modifiers now. You could disable build cost with these.

[modern rune]

So i'm having a problem where my dirt wall is too close to the edge of the stone foundation i can't snap the stone wall to the outer edge of the foundation

[robust delta]

omg

it was turning night and i went to use the bathroom, came back to me resting in bed with my gravestone right on top of me (idled in bed)

turns out 2 seekers rolled up my area, broke a wall down and then say johnny's here (small door but i left it open LOL) and it killed me.
bathroom breaks kill 😂

interesting. there is a strange smell of sulfur in the air now 🤔

[silk rivet]

Should have opened your bathroom window after the deed...

[robust delta]

that's a good roast there

[silk rivet]

😎 But yeah, to go safely afk you can hit escape in a solo world, that'll pause it. Or go sit in an emptied dungeon, like a troll cave or so. Can put a portal next to the entrance.

[robust delta]

awh!

i just realized. one of the seekers knocked the raft off from my roof. it's hard placing one let alone two!

[hard gale]

lmao

oh yea you can also safely chill in the trader zones

[trail lotus]

you can use haldor also if you found him,pressing escap stop the time

[fair cairn]

exactly what Beza said

[vital harness]

I am a native speaker and my english teacher absolutely adored me. It IS a lie.

[trail lotus]

i mean like its better to use a cave or haldor instead of pausing the game

[silk rivet]

Depends. I don't see why pausing the game while afk is a problem, unless you are waiting for the next day/night to come around.

[trail lotus]

its not a problem if you dont wait for crop to grow or ore to smelt

[robust delta]

so when an enemy gets staggered they take additional damage. does that apple to fire as well? i notice with frost staff it feels like u do more damage, but im not sure if fire dot gets the increased bonus for the duration of the stagger, if it was applied, or if not affected at all

[manic timber]

guys is it worth to spawn hildir and haldor close to one another ?

[charred gale]

HALA MADRID

skibidi toilet

[cyan ocean]

alright, so i made the mistwalker and i still have to hit those insect mfers 6 times to kill them. How come they have so much health, are so fast and do so much damage while still running in packs???

[charred gale]

valheim brainrot

[charred gale]

it's a brutal world out there

[vocal rivet]

Why?

[cyan ocean]

well the game isn't hard, it's just spamming enemies with a dumb amount of health at you

[vocal rivet]

Not really.

[charred gale]

Jesus Christ is God 📯

[charred gale]

the packs are usually no bigger than 2, most ive ever seen is 3

although if you run around while fighting one you're bound to run into more

what does your gear look like

or your skills

[cyan ocean]

i went to one of those chamber things and there were literally 5 right outside, pretty damn annoying when youo die inside, also pretty damn annoying when you literally have to go inside to progress. How am i supposed to kill 5 seekers when one takes 5 hits to kill??

[charred gale]

oh yeah well that's another story

the mistlands atgeir is very powerful at crowd control

atleast i've found it pretty useful

what kinda armor do you have

[cyan ocean]

the chitin armor, still die within 3 hits with 160 health or so

[charred gale]

do you mean carapace?

[cyan ocean]

yeah

[charred gale]

what level do you have it on

the seekers are pretty damn powerful even at full carapace

[cyan ocean]

1

[void abyss]

upgrade it

[charred gale]

work on upgrading that

also the carapace shield is very good for parrying them

[manic timber]

why cant i destroy my carve ?

[cyan ocean]

i have to kill them to upgrade it, there are a lot of them in those chambers and there's plenty of opportunities to cheese them, but apparently the chambers are guarded by an ungodly amount of them aswell

[void abyss]

Stand next to the mast, use axe secondary attack

[charred gale]

make the mistlands atgeir

trust me

[cyan ocean]

i have the lightning staff, it has the same attack as the atgeir, right?

[charred gale]

himmin alf?

[cyan ocean]

yeah

[charred gale]

yeah thats the one

ive found it really good

or the mistwalker's thrust attack on a staggered seeker

[cyan ocean]

what does it mean that the "mistwalkers glow seems to slice through the mist"? i haven't really noticed any difference in visibility?

[charred gale]

i think its supposed to help like the wisp does

but its pretty minimal

[cyan ocean]

there is no difference aha

how do you use the atgeir? you let them attack, dodge attack, rinse and repeat?

[charred gale]

basically yes

the spin attack is very good against multiple enemies

1. dodge 2. spin attack 3. regular attack

🔁

multiple enemies might pose more challenge but its all about being patient

[cyan ocean]

brother, this game design is kinda annoying; why do they conflate difficulty with damage sponges??? I literally have to hist this seeker soldier 60 times or something just to kill it, i mean, come on, it's just boring and annoying

[vocal rivet]

They don't?

[cyan ocean]

they literally do? i can't run away from this thing, so i have to kill it, but to kill it i have to hit it 60 times. Besides that, the bosses are the same; they're incredibly easy, but takes ages to kill...

[azure yacht]

Simple game, simple mechanics

And soldiers have a weak point for a reason

[cyan ocean]

that isn't a good thing... it isn't fun spending 10+ minutes on a single bossfight that's so easy you're literally dying of boredom

[cyan ocean]

you can only reach that point when they do their AE attack

still takes 60 hits

[vocal rivet]

Nothing in Mistlands should be taking you that many hits.

[cyan ocean]

it's a one starred seeker soldier, it has an ungodly amount of health

[cyan ocean]

yep

and is immune to apparently everything

[vocal rivet]

Just Spirit.

[cyan ocean]

then why do i not damage the thing 125 as my atgeir is supposed to damage??

[nocturne wolf]

Seekers have a .5 resistance to physical damage

[vocal rivet]

Unless, like Rianu says, you go for the weak spot.

[cyan ocean]

brother, you can't just hit it in its weak spot, you can only do that when they do their AE

[ornate sigil]

If you are able, aim for the bright pink or orange fleshy portion of the seaker/gjall. That is it's weak point. Also, each enemy has weaknesses and resistances.
Try using a elemental based weapon if you have them available.

[vocal rivet]

You keep saying that, it still won't make it true.

[nocturne wolf]

Have you tried pressing the jump button?

[ornate sigil]

I have heard frostneir is very useful.

[nocturne wolf]

Frostner does more damage than black metal against seekers, but I prefer not to use it because it has very low stagger

[cyan ocean]

i litearlly just fought it, i can tell you that it's borderline impossible to hit it in the back while not doing its AE

[nocturne wolf]

What’s your jump skill?

[cyan ocean]

38

[nocturne wolf]

Make a feather cape as soon as possible, that’s far too low

[half dragon]

You can play atgeir far more aggressively though. For me what works is go straight for spin, then kill when it's staggered

works for basically every enemy that gets staggered from 1 hit

[ornate sigil]

On hard? More hp to stagger against.

[half dragon]

Should still work for most enemies. on normal even highest HP enemies get staggered in 1 hit, with exception that one god damn tank roach in mistlands

[cyan ocean]

i can't do that, you have to go through the thousands of seekers and seeker soldiers to even get the recipe. How am i supposed to be good in a biome that's so bs? You can't see, you can't run, you can't fight because there are so many and they have so much health - even with the mistwalker sword it takes 6-7 hits to kill a single seeker...

[half dragon]

I had pretty easy time in mistlands with Atgeir, only struggled taking on those dverger towers

staggering is OP

for soldiers tho... not too easy kill

[cyan ocean]

how are you fighting on mountainous terrain against 2-5 different enemies at once, that each require 4-6 hits?

[ornate sigil]

If you fought and beat Yag, the plains boss, you should have the recipe for the wisp light and "torches". Those help a lot for visibility compared to not having them.

[half dragon]

well timed spins. hit multiple of them and pick one at the time

[nocturne wolf]

Mistlands enemies are very short so you can easily jump right over them to get into a better position, or kill them safely from behind

[cyan ocean]

you have to secure an area before you can place those things

[half dragon]

and try to find better spots for attacking them, move away from the hill and find something slightly flatter

[nocturne wolf]

Use the torches to secure an area, enemies wont target them

[cyan ocean]

you're not hitting all of them on a steep hill, which is apparently everywhere

[ornate sigil]

Not the equitable one, but yes the torches you do.

[half dragon]

there's everywhere at least some good spots for hitting them...

either top or bottom of the hill for starters

[cyan ocean]

not really, you can't really see where the good spots are because of the mist, and you can't really run away because you'll lose all your stamina

[half dragon]

don't need to see to know... just follow the hill up or down

it's not going to up or down to infinity

[cyan ocean]

no, but it might be a dead end leading straight to a mountain wall

or a lake

[nocturne wolf]

If that’s the case just jump over them and go the other way

[cyan ocean]

i can't jump over multiple seekers at once, it's not a thing you just do and it's not a thing you know how to do without experience. Sure there are ways to counter them and be good, but you have to learn these things, and it really isn't a good environment to learn. You have to die in this game, but dying is trash, especially in the mistlands and plains

[half dragon]

honestly hard to say anything to that when I could very easily get around them with multiple different options... even running straight at them and then dodging past them is fine option.

but I think you're right, not much that can be done except trying to get that experience and improve

[cyan ocean]

you don't have infinite stamina, i don't get you. If you're running around trying to explore, run into 3 seekers and then try to run away, you're losing your stamina and you can't really see where you're going. It's pretty easy to backseat game and say "just do that", but in reality it isn't that simple, you're in a difficult terrain with limited vision and almost never any stamina because of the terrain

[half dragon]

don't need infinite stamina, just good stamina management

there is no need to run constantly

[cyan ocean]

i'm not walking over a mountain, i have to sprint, and i'm not walking through the mistlands, it's boring and a waste of time; you don't even have nice scenery to look at because of the damn mist

[half dragon]

don't have to walk either, you can sprint, walk, sprint, walk... but keep your stamina at least above 50% in danger zone

[cyan ocean]

i just tested your "jump over it" theory thing, i landed on its back and by the time i was behind it it had turned around

[cyan ocean]

everywhere is a dangerzone...

[nocturne wolf]

Were you sprinting?

[cyan ocean]

yes

[nocturne wolf]

It’s because your jump skill is half of what it should be
It’s always my highest skill

[half dragon]

same here. For me jump and run both are in 70-80 usually, and main weapon skill around 60

[cyan ocean]

alright... pretty hard getting your skills up when you constantly die to terrain and visibility problems. It's pretty damn hard getting your stuff back in this game, especially in these later biomes, it's really draining the fun out of the game

[nocturne wolf]

World modifiers are changeable at any time, you could lower the death penalty if you want to

[cyan ocean]

or maybe the standard should be that you don't have to spend an hour getting your stuff back AND losing XP

[amber torrent]

isnt there cars in this game?

[nocturne wolf]

Carts? You make them with bronze nails

[amber torrent]

NO

[half dragon]

imo, personally think that it would be good for skills to have milestones that prevent the skill to drop below that point, like 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 and 90

[cyan ocean]

that's a nice idea

[nocturne wolf]

But then players could die as many times as they want with no punishment

[half dragon]

if already died and lost multiple levels...

[cyan ocean]

why is that a problem?

[nocturne wolf]

That’s what the no skill loss buff is for

[cyan ocean]

the punishment in having to get your stuff back is punishment enough

[nocturne wolf]

If they couldn’t be lost, skills would be better off not existing. Players would grind them to 100 at the start of the game and then be overpowered for the rest of it because they can’t lose them.

[half dragon]

which doesn't do jack shit really beyond being reasonable. it only works for recovering your gear

[cyan ocean]

who would do that? that's so boring

[half dragon]

you didn't really read my idea did you? highest milestone I'd put is 90

no 100

[nocturne wolf]

90 is close enough, the player is still incredibly strong there

[amber torrent]

guys am i able to climb that giant tree in tht sky

[nocturne wolf]

No. It doesn’t connect to the world and has no collision

[amber torrent]

this game sucks

[half dragon]

doesn't make it any less painful to lose your levels from 95 to 90. it's a lot damn work

[amber torrent]

what

i dont understand this death penalty stuff

[nocturne wolf]

When you die you lose 5% of your skills

[amber torrent]

like if i had 100 tree chopping skills

ill have 95 after dying?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes

[amber torrent]

is that permanent

[nocturne wolf]

No, you can regain those skills by chopping more trees

[amber torrent]

no but like

is you get your loot bac do you get the 5% skills with it?

cuz if not that sounds really damn annoying

[half dragon]

also milestones would make it possible to learn multiple weapon skills without them becoming absolutely garbage by dying occasionally. The devs encourage using multiple weapons by effing specific weapon users over by not including every weapon type in new updates, but then make it unreasonable to maintain multiple weapon skills...

[amber torrent]

is effing a word

[half dragon]

nah, just don't remember if swear words are filtered here or not 😂

[amber torrent]

or is it like f-ing

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, that’s what it means

[half dragon]

that's just another punishment rather than reward...

[amber torrent]

is the 5% skill drain to all your skills?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes

[half dragon]

punishment after punishment for not following their idea of how you should play

[amber torrent]

that sucks

[cyan ocean]

+2

[amber torrent]

have peopel been complaing about this alot?

[half dragon]

their solution to it is just edit your game options... but unfortunately to good way to entirely remove skill drain without mods

[cyan ocean]

what a goofy solution

[fallen zephyr]

When adding the armour stand to our bases, my wife has taken to placing them facing outwards at a window. It's super creepy and I'm struggling with it. 😛

[cyan ocean]

if the people who play your game think a mechanic is trash, you should remove it

[half dragon]

that is creepy 😂

sounds like a haunted house

[fallen zephyr]

It's very 'Blair Witch'

[cyan ocean]

seekers attack speed should be lower

[amber torrent]

did they say that?

[half dragon]

I think it's fine to keep it as an option for higher difficulties, but the main problem is that reducing skill drain to minimum also makes it so you don't lose your gear at all when you die... that is just stupid. They should be separetely

[cyan ocean]

i have no idea what you're talking about, sorry

[half dragon]

the skill drain, and dropping of gear on death

[fallen zephyr]

Like, repeat attacks? Or the time from telegraphing to hit?

[cyan ocean]

gear dropping is aids

[half dragon]

but at least it's manageable, and I would say sufficient punishment for dying... don't think it's necessary to add skill drain on top of that. Worst case you end up spendin an hour or 2 recovering your gear

[cyan ocean]

seeker attacks, i block, i hit, seeker hits me aswell. If the combat has to be so bare bones, atleast make it so i can punish the enemy

[half dragon]

you mean block, like not an parry?

[cyan ocean]

it really fucking isn't, try running in the mistlands for hours just to get your stuff back, or god forbid, something destroys your portal

[cyan ocean]

yeah

[fallen zephyr]

Ahh, yes. I remember being there. I suggest that, until you can stagger with a block parry, you use dodge to avoid hits.

[half dragon]

I know it's not easy, but learning to parry will make you far more powerful

parrying usually staggers the enemy and gives you time to hit them back without any risk

and they take more damage when staggered

[cyan ocean]

i haven't really had the option to learn that yet, i've always been ganged

[fallen zephyr]

Go practice blocking/parrying on greydwarves and skeletons.

[cyan ocean]

i know how to parry those, i haven't learned the attacks of the seekers yet

[fallen zephyr]

It'll do your skill level good too

[half dragon]

also dodge timing is basically the same as parrying. when you learn to do one of them, you can do the other as well

[cyan ocean]

why is it that mistlands is filled with bugs and aliens? I don't really get the norse mythology vibe from this region at all, except the dvergr

[half dragon]

who knows, maybe it's just an infestation that is not native to the area?

[cyan ocean]

that still doesn't give norse mythology vibes

they still haven't done dark elves / elves, only dvergr

[vocal rivet]

Eh, the game is BASED on Norse mythology but is very much its own thing.

[half dragon]

but do have to agree that those buggers do feel a bit out of place compared to other enemies

but personally don't take issue with it

[cyan ocean]

it's weird and doesn't really fit in, makes the game feel confused

[vocal rivet]

I like them. Makes a change from more skeletons.

[cyan ocean]

again, jötunn and elves, or just spiders i mean

that's kinda still norse mythology-ish

[vocal rivet]

Spiders were vetoed for several reasons.

[half dragon]

don't gib them ideas... imagine if they add a cursed version of "spiderman" to the game 😂

[cyan ocean]

so make jötunns or elves

[half dragon]

is it the arachnephobia people again?

[vocal rivet]

Why? Why must it have something you've heard of rather than something unique?

[cyan ocean]

it doesn't, but it should be norse mythology themed

[vocal rivet]

Partly. Partly in Smiffe's words 'spiders are boring'.

[vocal rivet]

Again, why?

[cyan ocean]

if everything else is norse mythology themed except ONE BIOME, it makes the game feel confused

[half dragon]

I guess spiders have been done quite many times in games, but kinda for a good reason... don't need no phobia to be creeped out by them

[vocal rivet]

Everything else isn't so it's all good.

[cyan ocean]

it literally is

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, this is going nowhere.

[distant field]

Right… those famous Norse Lizard-Ox and goblins…

[half dragon]

imo, bunker spider in lethal company is one of my favorite enemies, right after the yippees

[cyan ocean]

lizard-ox? But it's still beliveably norse mythology-ish. Large oxes, small green goblins, it could believably be in norse mythology, but flying aliens and giant insects, not really

[distant field]

You’re drawing an entirely arbitrary line in the sand.

[vocal rivet]

I'd love to know what these aliens are.

[half dragon]

Black forest gotta be the most norse like biome I think. I can even smell the norse mythology... god damn troll farts!

[distant field]

I assume gjall

[cyan ocean]

literally the flying things in the mistlands

[cyan ocean]

i don't think so, but i do agree that it's subjectiv what is thought of as "reasonably norse mythology themed"

[vocal rivet]

Why are they 'aliens'? They live in Mistlands like everything else.

If anything we're the aliens.

[cyan ocean]

they look like something straight out of alien invasion

[charred leaf]

wait til you see the boss only then will you realise mistlands is a zerg colony 🤣

[cyan ocean]

great biome guys 👍

[vocal rivet]

It's brilliant.

Especially after the fairly dull Plains.

[cyan ocean]

yeah, plains is boring aswell

[vocal rivet]

Not as well, just that one.

[cyan ocean]

i like the aesthetic of the mountain biome, but combat is trash, and there are too many enemies constantly attacking you

yeah

i liked the caves

[vocal rivet]

Have you tried playing in passive mode?

[cyan ocean]

idk what that menas

[vocal rivet]

With no enemies. As that seems to be your biggest gripe with the game.

[cyan ocean]

yeah, the combat is garbage

[vocal rivet]

The combat is absolutely fine (except for the verticality issue, and that's easily resolved).

[cyan ocean]

how is it a controversial opinion to say that the combat is trash? it's so bare bones

[vocal rivet]

Wait, is it trash or simplistic? Those are two different things.

[cyan ocean]

not necessarily

[maiden epoch]

Personally, I like the combat - flows better and is more intuitive than most games I've played. Blocking, parrying, dodging, sweeping, all the stuff I've found has been intuitive for me to learn.

[manic timber]

is the megingjord worth buying ?

[vocal rivet]

Definitely.

[cyan ocean]

yeah, but most of the enemies have 1 attack, that's that

[vocal rivet]

What? I'm trying to think of one that's true for.

[cyan ocean]

gerydwarves, skeletons, draugr, flying death man, blobs, fulings, deathsquitos, wolves the list goes on

[pliant hatch]

iirc the Greydwarves got two types of attacks. UNless you think that throwing a rock and trying to hit you with their hands are the same thing?

[vocal rivet]

So 10% of all mobs have 1 or 2 attacks, most of those having multiple variants which themselves have different attacks. Got it. Shocking.

[cyan ocean]

that's true, i forgot the rock throwing, maybe because it's so irrelevant for combat

[cyan ocean]

the only ones that actually have multible attacks are the stuff in the mistlands, the lox, the giant fulling, the greydwarf brute i think?, but that's kinda it

[pliant hatch]

Just like the swarming tactics most monsters do are forgotten.

Facing one of those you listed is easy. Face them as a mob and you got quite some problems. There's a reason why the "you are hunted" event is one of the most disliked events of Valheim - after the bats event, that is. And that's because the wolves swarm you and when they are able to stun-lock you, you're a goner. No matter what.

[cyan ocean]

getting stun-locked isn't fun, and fighting 3 fullings isn't fun either

[vocal rivet]

It's exciting. The fire ones are a pain in the ass but you can generally kite them into a more favourable position and then just take them out one at a time.

[burnt glen]

Wolves is a good event, bats is just annoying and nothing more

[cyan ocean]

it's boring, the combat is boring in this game, really boring

[vocal rivet]

There are definitely plenty of complaints you can level at the combat mechanics in the game, but boring just isn't one of them.

[cyan ocean]

i definitely can

[vocal rivet]

You just did.

[maiden epoch]

For each biome I've visited so far, the combat at first is very dangerous, then becomes manageable and pretty cool, then becomes easy after I've geared up or learned additional tactics. I think that if combat in a biome has become routine to a player, it might be time to move on to the next biome, or finish gearing up for that.

[vocal rivet]

Oh boy.

[lunar sapphire]

Let's keep things respectful / on topic moving forward folks

#rules-and-info

[cyan ocean]

alright

[pliant hatch]

If you die all the time, it's not because the combat is wrong, but because you're making the same mistakes over and over again. A lot of monsters - Greylings, Greydwarves, Fullings come immediately to mind - actually signal their attack before they even attack you. The sound they make prior to their attack is that signal. Several bosses do the same thing.

As I said before, lots of monsters try to swarm you. So the trick is not to jump into the fray and hope your healthbar still have 2HP left by the time you've killed all monsters, but instead to retreat to position that's more favorable for you, so you can take on 2-3 monsters instead of 6-9.
Same with Draugr. Especially in the sunken crypts they're easy to deal with, as you don't have to mine all the muddy scrap piles to attack them. Leaving a bit at the ground, thus "blocking" the Draugr from getting to you and taking them out with a bow or a 2 handed weapon like Stagbreaker does miracles.

Running head on to a pack of monsters in your heavy gear and yelling "Geromino" isn't the right way to deal with the opposition in this game.
Using your brains, trying to take them on one by one or in small numbers and always use your biggest advantage being the ability to change attacks and weapons is the way to do it.
Fail at that and things may indeed become boring when dying over and over again. But that's not the game's fault, but that of the player.
And yes, I - as well as many others - have been there too.

[cyan ocean]

i respect your enthusiasm, but you should try to present your opinions in a shorter format, it's kinda annoying having to read that much when you could just write the takeaways. Having to shoot draugrs behind a wall feels cheesy, and it's boring. Having to fight multiple enemes by getting them stuck on stuff, or something like that, is also boring. I die because i'm too underpowered for the region and don't know the enemies yet, and then when i die i end up in a spiral of always dying because i either can't see anything, or instantly get killed by some deathsquito or the like

[pliant hatch]

Perhaps you should refund this game instead and find something that isn't boring.

[vocal rivet]

They've got to Mistlands, I doubt they're in time for that.

[pliant hatch]

Oh and while you do. Keep in mind that horses are pretty high. So beware when dismounting them.

[cyan ocean]

the idea is good, many other aspects of the game are good, but the combat is boring and dying is waaaay too hardcore

[cyan ocean]

is that an insult or something? aha

oh, i get it

[vocal rivet]

Have you tried world modifiers?

[cyan ocean]

why should i have to modify the game for it to actually be good? the standard should be good

[vocal rivet]

It's already good. You just seem to be not enjoying it and changing world modifiers might resolve that.

[cyan ocean]

why is it good?

[vocal rivet]

You want me to tell you how many ways the game is good?

[cyan ocean]

i mean, i'm fighting a seeker soldier that i have to hit some 30 times for it to die, and then out of nothing comes 2 seekers, how is this fun?

i don't get any damn time to do anything without being interrupted by cancerous enemies. I can't kill a damn seeker soldier without wasting at least 5 minutes of my life on killing it

[vocal rivet]

How on Earth is one mob taking you 5 minutes?

[cyan ocean]

you tell me brother

[vocal rivet]

I'm at a loss.

[pliant hatch]

Well, if you don't attack a Seeker Soldier's butt, it will take quite a while.......

[vocal rivet]

But why would you do that?

[pliant hatch]

But of course, attacking something at it's weakest spot would be boring. So it's much better not to do that. 😉

[cyan ocean]

i can't attack it's damn butt, i can't jump over it, and the only way i can otherwise is when it's doing its AE, and guess what, i did attack its ass when it did its AE

still took me 3 minutes to get it at half hp, and then got attacked by 2 seekers

[distant field]

Maybe it’s your gear?

[cyan ocean]

i was using a level 1 himminafl

[vocal rivet]

So 60 something attack if you don't use the weak spot.

[cyan ocean]

i'll find a soldier and tell you how much i'm damaging it

34,8 damage when attacking it in the head

i have to hit it 44 times to kill it

[maiden epoch]

One of my more fun battles was when I was still in Iron, looking to get to Bonemass in a Swamp bordering Plains. Had never encountered Fulings before (I'm a fairly new player), heard their laugh, and using some jousting and running/charging/parrying, managed to down one, only to have a Deathsquito join in immediately after, and again using parry/riposte took it out, then high-tailing it out of there to a nearby Black Forest before any other Plains critters showed up.

[distant field]

I’ve not used that so can’t say how appropriate it is (I like to play ranged).

But, the game is built around punctuated increases in difficulty as you enter each new biome.

[cyan ocean]

this is one of the best weapons i can get, it just isn't upgraded, but still, how in the world is that in the damn game. Seriously? 34 fkn damage to a thin with 1500 hp, fkn ridiculous

you just can't tell me that's fun

[distant field]

Your definition of fun is not universal. And neither is mine. Nor anyone else’s.

[cyan ocean]

nobody thinks repetition is fun; fighting one enemy with 2 different attacks for 5 minutes isn't fun, it's repetitive and boring

[distant field]

Plenty of people here find the game fun.

[cyan ocean]

you can find the overall game fun without thinking every single thing in the game is fun

[distant field]

And people can find things fun that you don’t.

[keen cliff]

have you been arguing that the game is too hard here for 2 days now? what's your goal here?

[cyan ocean]

definitely, but i simply can't think that anyone would find that fun

[cyan ocean]

hopefully change, but also venting

[keen cliff]

the devs have a vision that you're 99.9999% unlikely to change. If you just want to vent, i hear you.

[cyan ocean]

if people request change they'll probably have to change it

[distant field]

And therein lies the problem

[pliant hatch]

Himminafl Pierce: 85/85 Lightning: 40/58

Seeker soldier: Resistant to: Blunt, PIERCE, slash

Which explains why you barely do damage.

[cyan ocean]

the sword is the same

[distant field]

Because resistance to slash, maybe?

[cyan ocean]

yeah, but i don't get what weapon to use then

[pliant hatch]

However:

Weak Point:
Abdomen
Weak to: Blunt, Pierce, Slash, Fire, Frost, Lightning

So as I said before, you need to hit it at the right spot.
Meaning, if a polearm or a sword doesn't work, pick a bow.

[cyan ocean]

so cheesing the game by standing on a large rock where it can't hit me

it's just bad game design

[pliant hatch]

A good soldier is not the bastard that dies for his country.
A good soldier uses the terrain to survive so he can make the other bastard die for his country.

If you aren't willing to adapt to the game, the game design isn't wrong. As there are options to defeat each and every monster.

[distant field]

lol, having varying enemies that demand varying skills and allow for varying approaches is “bad game design”?!

[cyan ocean]

the game design requires me to use a bow to kill enemies that are everywhere, that's not fun, that's just forcing me into a specific playstyle, even while they parade a bunch of different weapons that are apparently useless

[distant field]

(Note that not every approach will be equal against every enemy)

[vocal rivet]

No, you could use any weapon you want.

[cyan ocean]

but it should still be viable

[distant field]

It is

[cyan ocean]

it very much isn't when i have to hit it 44 times

[maiden epoch]

That sounds viable to me - still gets the job done

Your choice which path to take

[cyan ocean]

you could also just use your fists, might take you a few hours, but it's still viable, right, right???

[pliant hatch]

If you hit it at its head, yeah. If you need only 20 hits at its abdomen, that means there is another option too.

[cyan ocean]

i do every time i get the chance

[maiden epoch]

Sure is - your choice which path to take

[pliant hatch]

Considering we got fist weapons.... Why not?

[cyan ocean]

viable: "capable of working successfully; feasible."

[pliant hatch]

Heck, you can even lure it to a tower with Dverger and let them help you kill the thing. They may die in the process, but it gets the job done.

[cyan ocean]

it isn't succesful nor feasible

it takes you 5 minutes and you die if you get hit like 3 times

[pliant hatch]

So bottom line:

All those players that have killed seeker soldiers within a few minutes have either been cheesing it or have been doing it wrong, as combat is "boring".

[maiden epoch]

In a case like that, I think I'd choose the bow/terrain option most times. Not cheese, but tactics and knowing the battle. Sounds like great game design to me.

[pliant hatch]

I guess that means I've been doing boring combat too. Because up to now, the only monsters that haven't killed me are a Serpent, a Bonemaw, the Charred Marksmen, the Charred Twitchers and the Bosses Eikthyr and Fader. And the latter only because I haven't been fighting him yet.

[cyan ocean]

no, the bottom line is that the weapons of a biome should be useful when dealing with the creatures in that biome

they just aren't when you have to hit a common enemy 44 times to kill it

everything over 15 is a disgrace

[pliant hatch]

Well, I wish you good luck fighting the queen.

I'm pretty sure you will need her a lot more as 44 times before she's dead.

[cyan ocean]

the boss isn't a common enemy bro

[pliant hatch]

But I s'pose that's bad game design as well.

[keen cliff]

haha. i need to use worse arrows. suddenly my sniping fulings to pull them towards me are just killing them. i want them to get to me darn it.

[stoic matrix]

I like that seeker soldiers are tanks that take a lot to kill though, makes me fear them

[icy apex]

Uhm, are monsters larger on higher difficulty settings?

[stoic matrix]

Yes

[pliant hatch]

I dunno which tier bow and arrows you're using, but if you want it like that, try a lower tier bow with wooden arrows.

[icy apex]

ohhhhh, that explains a lot xd

[stoic matrix]

Faster too

[cyan ocean]

i don't like that i can't kill or escape the enemies that are attacking me

[keen cliff]

yeah, i just made wooden arrows. i'm sticking to the huntsman bow, because of the low noise. just thought it was funny to see the damage increase suddenly

[icy apex]

faster? oh, I thought only more dmg and health

will they also attack more often?

[distant field]

Physically larger?

[stoic matrix]

Seeker soldiers you can just start climbing the spires and peaks of mistlands and they can’t follow you

[pliant hatch]

But that's cheesing! 😉

[cyan ocean]

that is if you have enough stamina, which you probably don't considering you'll have to run to get away from it

[keen cliff]

according to that defnition i cheese 99% of the game 🙂

[stoic matrix]

🤷‍♂️

[pliant hatch]

According to that definition, each army cheeses 99% of their battles.

[cyan ocean]

brother, cheesing is standing on a rock or some other place the enemy can't get to you, and then just shooting it

it won't even run, it just stands there getting killed

[pliant hatch]

And what do you think BonnyJohnny just said he would be doing?

[vocal rivet]

Tell Obi Wan that!

[icy apex]

xD

[icy apex]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-20945836

[cyan ocean]

anakin could at least attack or go away, the enemy is programmed to just stand there and take it

[keen cliff]

i'm cheesing the wolves that are hunting me right now! Standing ona boulder and hammering them from safety lol

[cyan ocean]

run away from them

[stoic matrix]

It’s over soldierkin, I have the high ground!

[cyan ocean]

you can't say that you aren't taking advantage of the bad AI to kill them

[fair cairn]

people say its cheesing when your sitting on a rock using terrain to your advantage but i would pretty much do the same exact thing had it been real life be outside the reach of a giant bug capable of slicing me in two

[cyan ocean]

but the bug wouldn't stand there and let you kill it

[vernal karma]

Has there been any word on the development on deep north or 1.0? if they will give updates like ashlands for example, or be quiet like mistlands. I dont expect any timeframes to be given.

[fair cairn]

going with that thought, there wouldnt be a giant bug in either case

[vocal rivet]

Is the too easy or too hard? Make your mind up.

[cyan ocean]

listen, that's a bad faith argument. Any animal ever in the history of everything would run away when being harmed and not able to attack back

[pliant hatch]

Unless it was a 1950-60's movie. But then, we're at the same level as this game, I think.

[keen cliff]

#screenshots message

the timing was just funny, as this happened while the cheesy argument was going on

[vocal rivet]

Given that Ashlands has only just come out (and has at least one more patch to come) and the team have been on vacation the last month I wouldn't expect much for a bit.

[cyan ocean]

i've always said the game is piss easy, but it's just filled with trash game design and minor inconveniences that make you unable to play. If i really wanted not to die i could easily avoid it, but that's boring asf

[vocal rivet]

Nothing in the game currently makes you unable to play.

[keen cliff]

why don't you play something else then? you're just trolling since you're in the discord with people who enjoy the game?

[cyan ocean]

you're trolling because you won't criticize the game. I think i've come up with fair points, but you won't ever admit that the game has problems. In which world is it fun to only be able to kill a seeker soldier with a bow, on a rock, abusing the bad AI? you're not even doing anything impressive, you're shooting a thing that basically stands still and doesn't do anything

[keen cliff]

... you don't know what trolling means lol

[icy apex]

whats the most efficient way to level up your bow skill in singleplayer and earlygame?

[stoic matrix]

Find a greydwarf spawner and grab a couple stacks of wood arrows

[vocal rivet]

Huh? There are dozens of things currently wrong with the game. Just that none of them are what you're complaining about.

[keen cliff]

i have fun playing the game right now. i don't need to care more than that. if i stop having fun playing the game, i'll play something else.

[icy apex]

Okay

[keen cliff]

i'm not trying to do anything impressive, i'm just doing what i have fun doing 🙂

[vocal rivet]

Huh? Why would you need a hoe in Ashlands?

[cyan ocean]

do you think it's fun shooting at an enemy that can neither catch you or kill you, just because you're standing on a large rock

[stoic matrix]

My personal favorite is turning draugr villages into shooting ranges/weapon testing dummies

[pliant hatch]

Some build a trainer in which you block a monster to get to you, but still are able to shot it. Greydwarf spawners or skeleton spawners work well.

You can use the same thing in the sunken crypts with the Draugr spawners by keeping a small part of the muddy scrap piles on the floor so the Draugr can't get to you, while you can hit them with a bow.