valheim-chat

[ornate sigil]

the 4x2 causes less instances than a double stack of 2x1(s).

[sly oyster]

my computer is built to combat poorly optimized indie games

[ornate sigil]

and mine definately isn't, so those things do come into consideration every so often. I wont be making a whole town or massive castle untill windows 10 dies and I am forced to upgrade to windows 11.

[fervent minnow]

Do flesh rippers count as fists

[ornate sigil]

according to the wiki, yes.

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Flesh_Rippers

[fervent minnow]

Makes sense then

I was a little confused as to the set bonus of the fenrir armour, but with that in mind it makes more sense

[rotund dust]

Just found the Yagluth Vegvisir, in the first plains I went into, about 7 steps into the plains from the mountain I was exploring.. (Aint even killed Moder yet) WIN!

[ornate sigil]

very much so, as those are harder to find than the shrine itself.

[buoyant ether]

should i get the basement mod

[azure yacht]

#mods-discussion

[rotund dust]

Ive done 3 Frost Caves, and now have Fenris 3 Piece, Level 4... Thought i'd have to do ALOT more than that

[grand ravine]

that's insane. i farmed like a dozen caves to get upgraded fenris

[sly oyster]

well i dont need wood but i feel obligated to get it now that i just found 2 log trolls to assist

[kindred linden]

might get some copper on the side too

[buoyant ether]

so what if have my workshop throughout the game under elder base 🤔 then build my cozyplace/some else mountains ? then outposts elsewhere ?

but then id have to have easy portals as in irons etc through portals

[austere belfry]

i hate wraiths

[buoyant ether]

i hate wolfs

tryna finda fun building spot in the mountains

tho it does seem like it drops fps by some

[granite anchor]

I posted a valhiem iceburg in the fanart channel any suggestions for what to add?

[buoyant ether]

GOLEMS CAN WALK ON THE MOUNTAINSIDES?!?!!?

okay yeah this build aint happening 😫

there goes my dreams q_q

[livid widget]

And wraiths hate you!

[buoyant ether]

man im so bummed q_q

[livid widget]

Why?

[buoyant ether]

well i had this idea of a cozy rockface mini-base ora portal hub

but theres too much danger lurking around every good spot

[livid widget]

You aren't the first to have this idea

There's danger lurking everywhere you look. Build defenses. Moutain bases are pretty cool 🙂

Also, spawning stops in areas you build, generally

[hearty niche]

Lots of campfires.

[buoyant ether]

what about a iffy golem 😫

[livid widget]

kill it

It won't spawn there once you have workbenches and stuff

[buoyant ether]

and the thing is moder spawn is in this moutnain as well, so idk if that could be issue

[livid widget]

You have to deliberately spawn moder, so not sure why it'd be an issue?

Alternatively, you could move on to plains and gear up there and mountains become pretty trivial. You could build a mountain base later

[buoyant ether]

fighting moder might cause collateral damage

[unreal viper]

I never fought modor but I'm in mistlands

[buoyant ether]

well, yeah but i had a plains base as my main base last run so idk

btw after being done with silver do we even use smelter anymore ?

no wait yes.... for black metal

[unreal viper]

Blast furnace

[nocturne wolf]

She only attacks near the player. If you aren’t inside the building, it shouldn’t get hit.

[buoyant ether]

#screenshots message ideas?

[austere belfry]

a wraith sneaking up on me has cost me an hour of trying to recover my stuff

[buoyant ether]

either i make the elder base so that i use it the whoel damn run as a mainbase or.....

[empty blaze]

hey i cant load up a world. bought game and even reinstalled and just wont let me load into a world

[keen cloud]

the treasure chest is only for decoration or is good?

[warm sandal]

be patient it takes a long time to load the first time you start a new world... lots of stuff to be calculated...just wait it out

it will eventually start

[empty blaze]

no like it gives me a "Vlahiem stopped responding" and quits

[warm sandal]

well...i get that sometimes too... just do not click around anywhere, it will rectify itself...

[buoyant ether]

okay thats it ima stop playing with using the unlimited things

i just get frustrated not having my ideal base and get stuck on tryna plan it etc....

[warm sandal]

you get the option to "wait for it " or "close" choos wait for it and it should work after a while

depending on your machine it could take a real long time

[empty blaze]

wait for it instantly brings back the not responding error

[warm sandal]

i never tried unlimited things (if you mean the hammermode, where you just have to find the recipe and can build at no cost)... i find it boring ... 😄

[empty blaze]

i load gta5 in like 20 seconds

[buoyant ether]

well, this time i did the mistake of... "ima put on nocost for the while i build my mainbase, then i wont build more !"

oh how stupid and naive 😫

yeah i am the same

theres this fun mod that lets u make a hole in the ground type of basements, kinda small but... might be the perfect solution for my base issues

[warm sandal]

i have build basements without any mods... just pickaxe a hole in the ground and cover it over with what ever you can afford (iron beams and stonefloor or just woodfloor) works just fine without any mod at all 😄

[warm sandal]

i have a pretty strong machine and it can take up to 5 min including the message you mentioned for me to load the world the first time. I never had it not load if i just left it sitting for as long as it takes... if it does not load after 10 min or so i would go googling - because i do not have a solution for that sorry to be of no help maybe one of the others knows more...

[buoyant ether]

yeah ima stop using the nocost function 😫

[warm sandal]

good choice way more fun to play the game as intended 😄 I am recording a YouTube Series for beginners with vanilla valheim no mods... so much fun 😄

[buoyant ether]

partially i feel like a fresh run would erase these sins but at the same time i dont want a burnout 😅

[warm sandal]

lol... you do not need to burn ourself out over it... Valheim is hard but with the right strategy it is totally doable without investing all your life in it 😄

[buoyant ether]

but yeah, mods are also fun but they dont add nearly as much to the game as i thought at first

[buoyant ether]

thing is my summer is very uneneventful this year and i am trying to keep busy 😅 so lot of gaming it is

[warm sandal]

I always recommend try vanilla first as it was intended...yes it is not easy but if you mod the heck out of the game you will never see what is there to be enjoyed in the plain version

[buoyant ether]

i have a solo vanilla playthrough behind me

started it like a few weeks ago, am in ashlands

but also a fresh run now 😅

[warm sandal]

you could also start a fresh run and play a little there and a little there... right now i got three worlds and chars going one for twich one for youtube and one for my personal enjoyment without the need to talk or explain 😄

[spark steppe]

ive never played this game modded an just finished my first playthrough sense ashlands update with a buddy i like the it not being easy

[warm sandal]

me to... i like that you have to find ways be creative to get where you want to be. Much more satisfying to buid a base best you can with what you can gather (that is my way, everyone do what he/she/they love best - for me its earn your base by collecting the stuff)

[buoyant ether]

im also thinking of starting a nomap run, its intimidating tho

[empty blaze]

guys is there a difference on what side i show for walls?

[buoyant ether]

nah, just aesthetic

[empty blaze]

like is it like rust with a weaker/stronger side?

[light moat]

Nope!

[warm sandal]

nope it is all the same everywhich side

[warm sandal]

i take it your game now loaded?

[trail lotus]

i guest it load up 😏

[warm sandal]

gosh just went out to that useless swamp i found in a hurry and did not check if rested buff took hold - my my fighting oozer with no rested buf is no fun 😛

[warm sandal]

i never tried - i am prone to get lost WITH a map.,.. i might one day 😄 but not now...

[buoyant ether]

theres a handy little compass mod that easens the navigation a little bit, i would defo use it as well

irl im good at using enviroment to tell me where to go but.... in a game ? idk 👀

[warm sandal]

i got a real good sense for directions irl ... but in valheim without pinging on my map where i have to go i will wander in circles ... dunno... 😛

[robust delta]

my friend was sailing the seas enjoying and tgen he found like a giga serpent. we were ready to exit the world when that happened and he died lol. spent like 30 minutes thinking and sailing over there

[buoyant ether]

shoulda bowed him dead 😏

[robust delta]

he says that he died near, but the initial spawning of the big guy™️ wasn't near some red water. clearly odin was not proud of him

[buoyant ether]

the mystical daddy punishes

[warm sandal]

yay spce rack... at least i got some seeds out of that useless swamp

[buoyant ether]

i hate swamp wtih a passion

[uneven umbra]

if my boss is close to another biom will the other bioms monsters attack the monster?

[warm sandal]

the will attack other mobs but but not the boss

[uneven umbra]

thx

[celest wing]

Finally making headway in the biome, but jesus christ the ashlands is relentless in spawning literally 10 enemies at the same time

One of which is a morgen, the other a fallen valkyrie, and two 1 star charred marksman

[buoyant ether]

honestly, im a fan of hard combat but ashlands has some issues... esp having big fps drops and getting 10-15 enemies thrown at u not seeing where attacks coming from

if they fix the lag it could even be actually fun

[warm sandal]

i used to think i dislike swamp the most... and then came ashlands 😛 boi how hard to get a foot in the door there... just needs practise i think as any other biome... learn the patterns ... but with it being so new i have not had much time to learn t here 😄

also archers are a trouble at any level... i hate archers with a passion kill them first when they show up 😄

[buoyant ether]

my pc is pretty good too so its defo not that

yeah the archers can be kinda asses ngl

[warm sandal]

i did not experiance a lot of lag in my ashlands experiance with the previous character... i was just overwhelmed with the sheer number of stuff spawning in at such a high rate that you really have to fight for every square meter

[distant field]

Yeah, the lag, honestly, is my biggest issue in the Ashlands biome.

[warm sandal]

now crossing my fingers that that one lonely crypt in that useless swamp at least holds a decent amount of much needed iron

[distant field]

Seconded by the spawn rates. Like they don’t need to be much lower. But as they are right now, it’s too much.

[warm sandal]

hah...now we're in business...sausages 😄

[austere belfry]

soon ill be done with these godforsaken swamps

[warm sandal]

boooooo... unfair... first crypt for Astrid 2 open pathways and one holds a draugr spawner

[distant field]

Haha, yeah, always enter a crypt ready to fight. Most of the time you don’t need to, but it’s good to be prepared for those few where you do.

[warm sandal]

yeah i always enter stagbreaker or sledge in hand ... being cautious is a live saver in this game... and i hate to pay that 5% fee

[sly oyster]

who was really being hunted, ive now got 17 wolf hides in my hand

[empty blaze]

how plant seed?

[distant field]

Cultivator

[hot bolt]

after buying the belt and head light is gold pieces pretty much useless?

[sly oyster]

interesting, i found a mountain with not one silver node, and no poi

[warm sandal]

not at all

[sly oyster]

if you wanna terraform the other chick has clothes that make it easier

[warm sandal]

you need imir flesh and eggs later

[molten axle]

Those happen when the mountain doesn’t have enough altitude, silver and poi’s need a certain height

[hot bolt]

I've only ever seen the man trader

so there are other traders with stuff to buy eventually

[warm sandal]

his sister is around also 😄

[hot bolt]

ok

[warm sandal]

you get to help a damsel in distress if you find her

[sly oyster]

oh thanks for reminding me, i have walls now, i can go kill that quest boss that has like a billlion hp

pretty sure it can raid you once you kill it

[warm sandal]

80 iron in that crypt that is not to shabby 😄 now i need to gofind another swamp

[celest wing]

Ehh. I'm not a fan of having to fight 12 different enemies, half of which are one stars, just because a morgen slawned

Especially since the lava storm thing happened so it mega lagged the game

[celest wing]

Which one? Lord Reto?

[warm sandal]

In this run i will do all the mini bosses too and i have no walls at all 😄 not even a stake wall and no earthwall and no moat 😄 i specialize in spawnproving 😄

[sly oyster]

the wolf one

i dont even know how/where to find the others, i found the wolf dude on accident

[celest wing]

Oh Geirrhafa

[warm sandal]

lol talkling of raids... the ground is shaking 😄 gonna pot away my stuff and then go watch the sunset 😄

[celest wing]

You gotta find Hildir. She spawns like Haldor, but instead spawns in meadows

[sly oyster]

i found her already, i just dunno where the minibosses are

[celest wing]

Honestly the Morgen is a super sick enemy to fight. It is fast, hits hard, but is easy to parry

[tiny mortar]

Theyre on your minimap

[celest wing]

Did you click on the map thing at her shop?

[tiny mortar]

If you actually talked to hildir and registered the miniboss caves on ur map

[celest wing]

She has a little map in front of her to show the locations of the 3 minibosses tied to her

The ashlands miniboss though is instead found through a different method

[tiny mortar]

Yeah thats from the putrid holes right?

The vegvisirs in them

[celest wing]

Yeah. Some show the location of a Dyrnwyn fragment. Then eventually leads to his tomb

[warm sandal]

oh well...would have liked to go boating some...but to late ... have to get up 5 am

[sly oyster]

ah no didnt talk to a map, good thing i dropped a portal over there

[celest wing]

Geirrhafa is really easy if you got ice resistances like ice resist mead, wolf chestplate, or wolf cape

[sly oyster]

i called it, im on the south west side of the map, the hilder pois are north east

except i do have a tower like right next to my house, wasnt sure what that was

[feral venture]

how do i make more seeds from my turnips?

[azure yacht]

Use cultivator

[feral venture]

but what button?

[azure yacht]

Open its interface window and search for the seeds

[surreal falcon]

The same way you make me seeds from your carrots

[empty blaze]

hi guys how do i hover over the top right effects? cause i have some and have no idea what they do

[azure yacht]

Open inventory and press the left-most button on the top-right corner to open the compendium

[fading marlin]

Ashlands is a bit of a difficulty spike on the hardest modifier for enemies

It’s insane 😭 I played through the whole game and ashlands was genuinely unplayable until I turned it down

Also on a sidenote difficulty affects summon damage in a unintended way

[shy marlin]

how do you mean unplayable

[fading marlin]

Boat obliterated on the way, enemies everywhere doing a gorillion damage

Couldn’t even land properly without dying and losing everything

[shy marlin]

Sounds to me like Very hard is just very hard

Shouldn't be a cakewalk

[frail wagon]

ashlands in its current state on a diff above normal sounds like actual torture

[fading marlin]

Very hard was completely fine until ashlands

[frail wagon]

yeah ashlands is kinda unbalanced rn

[fading marlin]

It felt like a completely different game I was fully kitted lmfao

Very manageable on lower difficulties with the only enemy I particularly have gripes with being askens

If you have askens on you with other stuff your stamina is gone

[shy marlin]

OR you just aren't as experienced in ashlands as the other 6

[fading marlin]

I haven’t played past mountains ever this was my first time going through all of them

[shy marlin]

Doesn't matter, Ashlands tests different mechanical ideas/skills then the other biomes, so while you were doing fine with other biomes because your mechanics were solid, ashlands introduced new ideas/mechanics that were unfamiliar to you, hence causing a higher degree of challenge.

[fading marlin]

Didn’t have any issues besides Ashlands and some starred seekers randomly doing way more damage

[frail wagon]

the only biomes i had real problems in were mist and ash

i already beat fader so im just waiting for something NEW to come out

[fading marlin]

The only major culprits in very hard were warriors and askens as I tried to utilize my melee often

Stamina drain in Ashlands is very noticeable due to all the dodging etc you have to do but ig the new equipment helps with that a bit

[sharp raptor]

I consistently stay alive in the ashlands these days and have even cleared 2 servers worth of fortresses. I think its well balanced when I am playing solo but when we have 4+ players together those enemies hit so much harder. Makes bonemass rotation like a requirement

[fading marlin]

Im with 3 others and warriors were straight up unparriable on very hard

[primal bridge]

does anyone actually rock a full magic set? especially in ashlands?

so squishhyy

[fading marlin]

I was rocking full magic with my frostber

[frail wagon]

full level 1 mage all the way threw

[sharp raptor]

Really ashlands is about knowing how to use your safety points like captured forts, morgen pits/high ground and know when to run vs engage

[fading marlin]

The main abuse you can run in very hard Ashlands is skeleton summons being 50% stronger due to be considered a enemy

[frail wagon]

trollstav my beloved

[fading marlin]

I’m having so much fun with it

[azure yacht]

You're saying you're mage right after saying they are unparriable...

Are you saying that you're trying to parry enemies as a mage?

[primal bridge]

trollstav is my "oh shit, i gotta run and need a distraction" weapon

[frail wagon]

Remember to use it on ore vains

[fading marlin]

If you use lightning staff on tree logs something funny happens

[frail wagon]

its also the ashlands pickaxe

[fading marlin]

Yeah with my shield and barrier up

Worst case scenario I typically just need to recast shield before I continue

[primal bridge]

nah son i think he was replying to what i had said

[shy marlin]

and mage is the only thing that can really parry stuff on VH (through staff of protection) too

[azure yacht]

Only one per cast tho

[fading marlin]

Yeah my full melee friend couldn’t parry them 😭

They hit too hard on very hard

[shy marlin]

well ye obv

[frail wagon]

am i the only one who dose not like the staff of the wilds?

[azure yacht]

Regardless, mage is essentially also the weakest close-combat playstyle.

Why would you go melee as a mage? Enemies shouldn't even be able to get near you

[fading marlin]

Haven’t unlocked it but I heard it’s funny

[frail wagon]

it dose not feel as fun as any other staff

[primal bridge]

staff of wild is insane

[fading marlin]

Out of mana?????

Why would I squander my dps while my comrades fall in battle

[primal bridge]

fully upgraded staff does insane damage, and i noticed that its applying the paralysis effect. i cant remember if it does that at levels 1 and 2, but i just upgraded mine to 3 and started to notice it

[azure yacht]

So it's better to die with them rather than staying as alive as possible to clear the remaining enemies?

[frail wagon]

also zerker axes are the best weapon in the ashlands and i wont hear otherwise

(Primial zerker axes my beloved)

[primal bridge]

lightning axes are kind of busted

[fading marlin]

Nah it’s better to keep them alive since they are melee range by going in for a shield and then using my frostner for CC

Only enemy I find to be kinda bullshit are the askens imma be real

[sly oyster]

gross, the hilder chests have the hour deleter symbol on them

[fading marlin]

Even in melee range they just have too much movespeed to allow for stam regen

[primal bridge]

eh i dont think any enemy is bullshit. i just think the spawn rates are

[fading marlin]

Spawnrates are fun on lower difficulty though that’s the issue

😭

[frail wagon]

meh i fucking hate the lava blobs

annoying ass kamakize's

[fading marlin]

Lava blobs are horrifying when I’m out of fire resistance 😭

Feather cape is too good not to run though and magic shield blocks status effects

I feel like the newer capes are kinda useless compared to it

Except for the rolling one

[sharp raptor]

Oh with feather cape ya they will wreck you. I just have a feather cape and and ask cape and switch between them as needed

[fading marlin]

I’m hoping once deep north comes out we get a armory update

Kinda wierd having like 3+ new weapon types at the very end of the current game

[austere belfry]

bout to kill the boss and be free of the swampppppp

[fading marlin]

My main complaint on the current state of the game is extreme performance hitching in the mist and ashlands

Everything else is bearable to a degree

[hidden gorge]

Oh my sweet summer child...

[uneven umbra]

why cant i dismantle my boat

[fading marlin]

Ah you see, That would be convenient

[unique onyx]

you can, with hammers and axes

[uneven umbra]

how?

[fading marlin]

Hit them until they break 😀

This becomes very fun later on as vehicles/carts become more tanky

[distant field]

I think hitting the mast with a sword is generally the quickest way to dismantle a boat.

[vocal rivet]

It's to stop you being able to do it by accident.

[fading marlin]

If that were the case wouldn’t this also apply to building foundations and buildings in general

Along with chests etc

[vocal rivet]

No, it's a lot less catastrophic on dry land.

[molten axle]

As someone who’s had to build a diving board to try to recover stacks of ore from the bottom of a lake I concur

[keen cloud]

wrong discord

[celest wing]

They're easy on their own. They're just an awkward problem when you're fighting something else and on suddenly just shows up right behind you

[nocturne wolf]

Their attack is so good for killing other enemies

[celest wing]

Bring a mace and poison resist

[celest wing]

Yeah I agree. They're just a nasty surprise when you don't know one is there

[fading marlin]

Yeah they are easy and I like messing with them for the most part

Just a little dangerous

[sly oyster]

So I've got a frosty and maxed silver sword, do I bother making a plains weapon?

[nocturne wolf]

The polearm can help for killing loxes which are resistant to slash, blunt and frost

[raw girder]

sure is impressive how well you can navigate with just the tree

[sharp raptor]

Plural for lox is loxen just like oxen

[raw girder]

feels really satisfying sailing from ashlands to a camp near the equiator and not getting lost

[empty blaze]

hey guys ummm sometimes when i kill enemies their stuff auto picks up but now it doesnt why?

[silent nimbus]

Hmm, I have the same problem but I always blame it on the mods I use 😂

[raw girder]

try pressing V

[empty blaze]

oh thanks <3

[silent nimbus]

Thanks aswell

[silent nimbus]

Love that pfp

[empty blaze]

u know deep rock galactic?

[silent nimbus]

Deep rock galactic?

[empty blaze]

well i got banned from their server permanently because a 30+ year old woman has nothing better else to do

[silent nimbus]

Damn

[empty blaze]

blamed my pfp

[silent nimbus]

HAHAHA

That picture makes me laugh every time I remember it

[vocal rivet]

The plural of lox is lox.

[silent nimbus]

Yes

[vocal vale]

It’s loxeese

Or loxes if you’re from the uk

[shy rover]

I’m on Xbox looking for people to play fresh characters fresh world my Xbox user is bongo4200 message me if you wanna join

[sly oyster]

would be nice is bow skill was actually called archery and affected xbows so their late appearance wasnt so lack luster

[azure yacht]

Crossbows are perfect where they are

[vocal rivet]

It's still lox. As decided by the devs.

[azure yacht]

Bows are only better than crossbows if you invested in their use since the beginning, but not everyone does that.

So crossbows are the physical ranged solution for those that don't have a high bow skill by the time they reach mistlands, which is the only way bows become superior to crossbows

[shy marlin]

Well xbow and bows have different use cases too

They're not directly comparable

[sly oyster]

its a weak argument anyways lol, id put money on most people using bows, but even if they dont you are still getting a new weapon type basically at the end of the game with a zero skill

[robust delta]

lox² if you're have a phd

[sly oyster]

they are the angry fuzzy buffalo that keep fighting in my tar pit

[austere belfry]

actually its loxussy

[celest wing]

So uh. I was raiding a charred fortress. Turns out a morgen had spawned there and annihilated the charred inside

[tepid prawn]

you will have lots of black metal left over so I'd do it

[azure yacht]

Crossbow at 0 skill is arguably better than bow at zero skill 🤷

It's almost three times more dmg per shot

[fading marlin]

Bow at 0 skill is miserable

[odd helm]

Improves fairly quickly though

Once you're at finewood it's great

[tepid prawn]

lots of people say skills don't matter, I disagree, currently playing a 70 bow skill character, its already very close to a machine gun

[odd helm]

Really, the crude bow is the miserable one

[fading marlin]

Skills need to be easier to level imma be real

I should not have to sit through 28000 skeleton hits to max blood magic lmfao

[tepid prawn]

I build a greydwarf farm for blood magic and at level 40+ its very nice

[sly oyster]

i put 50 arrows into every lox i see and my bow skill is still only 36, been using bow since day 1

[fading marlin]

Does rested give an exp buff in this game or am I thinking of Skyrim

[odd helm]

I wouldn't say they don't matter at all, but it definitely isn't be necessary to grind them to super high levels just to be usable, imho.

[odd helm]

Yes, it does

[tepid prawn]

I can kill 2 lox before they get to me with 70 skill, its super nice, they just die so fast with high bow skill

[sly oyster]

skills level way too slow, ill be done with this playthrough before i get to 40 im sure, and im takinmg my sweet ass time too

its like day 240 and im still in plains

[odd helm]

That's fairly average for solo playthroughs I think

[fading marlin]

I had like 46 polarm in the plains and then I swapped over to frostner since I never tried it

I will say through skills are almost necessary if you play on very hard

[azure yacht]

It matters more for some weapons than others.

All magic being one of them

[odd helm]

Oh, higher difficulties is a whole other beastie

[fading marlin]

Skeleton summons hit for like 3-400 on very hard maxxed blood magic

[tepid prawn]

true

[uneven umbra]

any tips for getting fethers

[azure yacht]

devcommands > ||SkillGainRate 1000||

[sly oyster]

shoot every bird you see

[tepid prawn]

which biome you up to

[fading marlin]

I wish I could just config each skill individually

[uneven umbra]

mountions

[sly oyster]

and tbh, just use wood arrows lol

[fading marlin]

Stuff like blood magic is more tedium than actual progression

[sly oyster]

no feathers needed, still one shots wolves from unaware

[shy marlin]

not true, at all

smh

[azure yacht]

Something tells me that due to how broken magic is, that's why it's a pain to level up, especially blood

[sly oyster]

people on very hard are perma dead, their skills are zero

[azure yacht]

Especially from shield

[tepid prawn]

if you're not in plains yet you'll just have to shoot birds with wood arrows (in plains you can either do one of the hildir dungeons or after killing yagluth do that same thing too, a new tame that provides mass amount of feathers

[sly oyster]

they win by being a zombie

[shy marlin]

speak for yourself

[fading marlin]

Not really a pain to level up elemental though you just kinda pour 90000 projectiles into a golem

[uneven umbra]

any tips for fighting moder

[fading marlin]

Uhh get a good bow

[sly oyster]

obviously you can beat the game without leveling skills, its not that hard. but you are being dishonest think it doesnt make a difference, skill levels are mechanically huge

[fading marlin]

Health pots if needed, watch for the multihit

[sly oyster]

the difference of a leveled skill is massive

[azure yacht]

devcommands > ||spawn trainingdummy||

[tepid prawn]

Draugr Fang with obsidian or needle arrows, ideally maxed as high as you can, you can make an earth pillar or 2 to hide behind, also can prepare the area to have some flat ground, if you have high bow skill she dies quite fast, bring stamina and health meads, maybe do some spawnproofing around the area and it helps to have nearby golems maybe trapped in a hole if there is one around

[azure yacht]

They do.

Doesn't mean they're worth spending 6 hours actively grinding them like many people apparently think

[fading marlin]

Idk man skeletons going from like 80 damage to 300+ is a pretty big jump

[sly oyster]

its pretty easy to melee moder, you get tons of free damage by just side stepping the breath

[fading marlin]

I don’t really melee flying enemies in this game

Seekers solidified this fact with their shitty ass detection hitbox

[tepid prawn]

if you're confident with sidesteps etc yes, also high bowskill just deletes Moder

[sly oyster]

dunno about delete, it takes almost 3 draugr bows to kill it

[fading marlin]

This game could very much use a system to help combat enemies being slightly above or below you

Swinging my hammer at a seekers toes and not having it register is an awful feeling

[sly oyster]

the mountains are infinitely more annoying than they should be when a wolf is 2 inches above or below you

[tepid prawn]

mine only went to half durability, skill was in the 60s

[fading marlin]

The one positive thing I’ll say about the Ashlands is that it looks pretty sick

And the terrain isn’t awful to navigate for the most part

[tepid prawn]

there are heaps more positive things, all 3 armours and also the weapons are absolutely awesome

[fading marlin]

New gear is cool too

Always fun I just wish they patched in weapons for the prior areas aswell

[ornate sigil]

and friendly fire on enemies is a big plus

[fading marlin]

Makes the other areas seem very content starved whenever mistlands/ashlands came out

[tepid prawn]

sort of natural because the devs learnt more, more capable now in a way. Still mountains and plains are great imo for content and all and so is swamps, I think it fits well together especially with hildir request and mountain caves and tarpits added

[fading marlin]

My biggest gripes are how much refined aetr/iron bars everything needs as you progress deeper into the game

[sharp raptor]

Wish it was implemented for other biomes. So many times berzerkers are slamming the ground right on fulings.

[fading marlin]

Haven’t messed around too much with hildr I just wish stuff like magics etc were implemented earlier on as there are very simple ways to do so through the existing enemies

Weapon progression gaps are still pretty atrocious

[ornate sigil]

I'm almost certain, with a mod, it could be implemented across all biomes. It would just be a matter of convincing a prolific mod maker that it is worth their time to do instead of (yet another) cosmetic mod.

[tepid prawn]

progression gaps? not each biome needs to have every weapon type, would feel like reskins, Smiffe agreed with me when I said that

[fading marlin]

I feel like some weapon types are a baseline for what you should expect from every biome

[tepid prawn]

also the Deep North will have each weapon type present, and maybe even a new one which I guess some people may complain about starting with 0 skill in the 8th biome for a weapon haha

[fading marlin]

I can cope with crossbows being as late into the game as they are but stuff like two handers etc being unlocked more than halfway in is a little off putting

[sly oyster]

using an early game weapon in the late game is kinda meh progression

[fading marlin]

Frostner holding up in the Ashlands is really funny to me

[sly oyster]

its dumb

[tepid prawn]

damage way too low imo, its only okay for harder difficulties because of the knockback

[sly oyster]

but yeah, mods one day prolly

[fading marlin]

It three shots vultures on very hard 😭

[tepid prawn]

the silver sword is better for damage against valk and charred for instance

[ornate sigil]

wouldn't be so bad if you could use fully upgraded weapons for matts in later biomes (bronze knife used as a mat for skol&hati)

[fading marlin]

Investing all my refined and linen into the mistlands mage armor only to need a shitload more one biome later kinda pissed me off icl

Especially with how long refined takes to process

[tepid prawn]

but that is the same as needed lots of iron in mistlands from 2 biomes ago, there is a bit of a theme of re-using things

[fading marlin]

Yeah iron is used for FAR too long imo

I kinda understood for mountains but after that in almost every heavy armor set

It gets a little ridiculous

[tepid prawn]

its almost a conspiracy obviously not Watergate... what could we call it... IronGate... /hahahaha

[vocal rivet]

Watergate wasn't a conspiracy.

[tepid prawn]

tbh I don't know much about WaterGate I just tried to make something funny

[hidden gorge]

pls no. especially not after recent events

[azure yacht]

"will have" is certainly a very strong phrase...

[vocal rivet]

That's certainly not something we know for definite.

[tepid prawn]

the devs said they don't want any weapon type missing from the Deep North a few times

and a "maybe" on something completely new

[azure yacht]

I genuinely want the source of that

Too good to be true considering what we've experienced so far

[tepid prawn]

I'll see if I can find it

was in relation to it being the last biome that will add weapons

[vocal rivet]

If only Smiffe was online and active right now...

[azure yacht]

Let's tell him to drop his vacation to exclusively answer that question

[ornate sigil]

being the last biome, I can see allowing all options for weapons to be open, but past experience would say otherwise.

[tepid prawn]

I don't want to annoy devs with @ and especially not on vacation!

[vocal rivet]

There's a reason I didn't tag him in that.

[ornate sigil]

sooo....put a pin in the question and come back in about a month/couple weeks then?

[vocal rivet]

Where are you getting THOSE dates from?

[azure yacht]

Of course it would make absolute sense that every single weapon type is available in DN but there have been moments that you can see them do the unexpected as in not making any sense.

Like greydwarf brutes dealing slash dmg despite attacking with the very visible boulder hand

[vocal rivet]

If there's a weapon type that is completely ineffective in DN I can't see them providing one just for completeness sake.

[tepid prawn]

Its their fingernails doing the slash! (I mean to say this never bothered me but yeah it doesnt seem to make sense, probably wanted it to be slash for some gameplay reasons)

[azure yacht]

Imagine if all enemies there are neutral to all damage types but are extremely powerful as compensation

[ornate sigil]

i have no refrence for my timeframe other than vacation(s) can take(up to) several weeks.

[azure yacht]

I assume it's an oversight, one of many, especially when it's a very early enemy.

[tepid prawn]

imo would be better to still have weaknesses but have completely different weaknesses spread across the different mob types, would mean to be effective you'd want to carry some extra weapons and make for a big challenge in DN as well, carry more weapons or not having a weapon something is weak to

[vocal rivet]

I'm sure requiring multiple weapons would really please the inventory space complainers.

[azure yacht]

Those will complain no matter what happens

[tepid prawn]

they will cry enough tears to fill an ocean if that happens, personally I have just adapted to make the inventory management minigame work for me

[graceful cosmos]

Mistlands needs more content. I procrastinated killing the queen and successfully avoided spoilers until last night because i didnt want to touch it until ashlands came out. Now that I've killed her and gotten her drops, I can truthfully say that her drop is a "quest item". The boat is impressive but if that's the only thing you get then I have issues with it. I guess my suggestion would be to finish mistlands before working on a new biome. Even the plains felt like they didn't get as much love as previous biomes, but the mistlands feel like an unnecessary part of the game. It's just like how Yagluth literally is only used to unlock mistlands..... I love Valheim, but i think i probably speak for the community when i say the trend of pushing a new chunk of the game instead of breathing life into the existing parts has got to stop. We don't want another pointless biome, we want gratification. Killing Eikthyr felt powerful. He was difficult and he rewarded you by unlocking an entire chunk of the mechanics (mining). Why do i feel like i could have left the queen alone?

[azure yacht]

If that means getting a new biome out of those tears so be it 😌

[vocal rivet]

It definitely doesn't. It's probably one of the fullest biomes in the game.

' Killing Eikthyr felt powerful.' - I'm sorry, what? The tutorial boss?

[azure yacht]

"we don't want another pointless biome"

Oh, the major biomes that are mandatory to finish the game at the end of the game's story are "pointless"

That is certainly... A read

[vocal rivet]

And the rest of your 'complaint' just demonstrates a glaring lack of understanding of the point of the game.

[ornate sigil]

an easy (with prior experience) fight doesn't make me feel powerful. knowing I got through using everything at my disposal and barely at that, gets my adrenalin going and that is when the "heck ya, I did it" feeling kicks in. but yes, I would agree some things could definately use polish.

[vocal rivet]

And as the game isn't finished yet, there's no reason to expect there won't be a polish before release.

The first biomes have already had at least one rework over the last 3 years with things like Abominations and Frost Caves and Hildir's mini-bosses etc.

[ionic iron]

Yeesh that’s a brave call to say one speaks for the community. Good on you sharing your opinion but stand by for blowback 🙂 🍿

[graceful cosmos]

Sorry i maybe typed that in a hurry. By powerful i mean it was a huge change from standard enemies. The queen was just knockback set to 100. If you put your back to a wall you win as long as you're not wearing bad gear. The idea of a biome being pointless is just that you don't get much out of it. I'm allowed an opinion, and my opinion is that after the swamps gameplay drops off. It feels like you're just getting the same things with different names ya know? I've played a lot of games in my life and i was hoping for something epic from the second to last biome/boss. Magic is cool i guess but this late in the game it wouldn't make sense to switch from a combat style I've gotten good at and comfortable with, to trying a whole new system. If you go back with a new character and play through again you'll see that there's a clear feeling of reward and genuine awe as you progress through the game. That basically grinds to a halt after you get halfway through the plains

[vocal rivet]

'By powerful i mean it was a huge change from standard enemies.' - Yes, it was a boss.

Also, you're suggesting you've not been allowed an opinion, and that's not remotely the case. We're listening now, and giving our opinions in return.

[graceful cosmos]

But the bosses don't feel new and exciting after that. It's a re-used formula

I'll give yag some credit actually. The meteors were good

[unique onyx]

which other boss does acid spit i can't remember

definately the deer

[vocal rivet]

If by 're-used formula' you mean the game has a series of biomes each of which provide new resources and at least one weapon and armour set followed by a boss that usually gives you another resource that's, if not crucial, benificial for the next biome then sure, there's a formula.

[graceful cosmos]

Aeo elemental attack they spam? All of them accept Queen

[azure yacht]

For you, it's not a universal fact

[molten axle]

It’s ok if you don’t like magic personally but it’s totally unfair to pretend Mistlands has no new exciting gameplay just because you don’t personally touch that aspect of the game lol for me and I’m sure a good chunk of other players reaching Eitr items definitely gives me that sense of awe every time

[azure yacht]

Literally all games become repetitive if you look at them in a specific way, which often involves a very narrowed POV as well

[ionic iron]

Yeah as far as new mechanics go, sure after the 1st boss you can now mine minerals which I agree is significant, you don’t get that big a thing in newer biomes except for magic in mistlands. Plains could use some variable gameplay stuff I agree. You can’t even mine a new thing there

[azure yacht]

Call of duty? Only involves shooting other players complete some objectives, and done, repeat for every single match

Terraria? Explore, build some stuff, craft, kill some bosses, repeat in every single world until you reach the end

Minecraft? Just build some stuff, explore a little and then repeat

[distant field]

So, as a new player, I have to agree with rudiger on one thing - defeating Eikthyr really did give me a powerful feeling.

That said, the game quickly corrected that view by sending a couple of trolls to trash our base.

[plush umbra]

ommmmmmmmmmmmggggggg after beating a whole horde i decided it was smart to stand on a red spot(which looks cool), i instantly burned to death wtf

[rotund dust]

Im glad you experienced this... It gets better and better 😂

[distant field]

However, whilst I find some aspects of the game repetitive, I have really enjoyed the feeling of progression I’ve had from each subsequent biome, learning to overcome, gear up, and master them (mostly).

I’ve also been really impressed with how different each one feels, right up to the hell that is that most recent addition.

Unfortunately I fear Ashlands may have broken one of my gaming friends, and I worry I will struggle to make further progress.

[ornate sigil]

ya, ashlands is a kick in the head, more so than other biome progression gaps (how hard it is to go from biome1 into biome2)

[celest wing]

I wholeheartedly disagree. It introduces many key features that is necessary for later. Like eitr, blackmetal pickaxe, black marble, and an upgrade to the artisan table

While I can sorta agree that I feel the plains is missing something specific, the mistlands is a fully complete biome

[celest wing]

I spent 5 hours repeatedly dying. It took a while to even make headway, but I eventually did get momentum

[unique onyx]

plains and some other areas being sort of empty might mean we get different dungeons or something added later too though. mountain once felt fairly empty too

[ornate sigil]

the slog is what makes progress feel worthwhile.

[celest wing]

Personally I feel the progression in the plains is fine. It's the weapon pool that feels particularly shallow

[distant field]

The only thing missing from the plains is dungeons. I wonder, were those rectangular buildings with stairs in the middle, originally meant to be dungeon entrances?

[celest wing]

It feels like it lacks one or two more weapons to round it out

[rotund dust]

In regards to this, after not playing for MANY MANY updates, I really like the mountains now ( Currently at the do i fight Moder, or continue mucking round stage) But having a blast there

[celest wing]

ALSO I feel a second armor set would be neat. Every biome has at least two except the plains

[rotund dust]

Needle armor? 😂

[plush umbra]

plains felt the shortest biome yes, it has also has no ore

[distant field]

Tar is the plains ore, no?

[plush umbra]

it has no use

[celest wing]

Black metal is

[shy marlin]

anyone? blackmetal ore?

[graceful cosmos]

I'm multitasking here so i don't remember who it was that said this, but it's unfair to call of duty to compare a game which has real content to a first person shooter. Now, I won't trash the whole genre, but fps games like cod are in a completely different class. Terraria has vastly different bosses though, and denying that would be ridiculous. Each biome is so unique that they almost can't be compared. It's like each one was made by a different developer. What I'm referring to is a very distinct repetition in the formula. Bosses are large with massive health bars. They cycle attacks in a loop with no new surprises. The difficulty comes from the time it takes to bring hp to zero, not from the mechanics. An endurance race is a nice concept for a boss, but only if it's occasional. At least plains enemies felt diverse, but bugs who stand there and spam the same two attacks isn't interesting. Adding more bugs or increasing their hp isn't interesting. The real issue though, is that everything in valheim is predictable. All enemies have a pattern and all bosses have a way to cheese them. Without cheesing, the later bosses become extremely frustrating and time consuming. I know it's a game heavily focused on building, so i expect it to okay a part in combat, but have any of you actually killed anything after eikthyr without building an arena that gives you immunity to their attacks? The queen is the first boss that you physically can't do that with, and she's the easiest boss in the game

[plush umbra]

ye but no mining, u just keep clearing the same camps

[distant field]

(I was joking)

(Because it’s the only thing in the plains you (sort of) mine)

[plush umbra]

black forest mine for bronze -> scared of trolls
mountains mine silver -> scared of wolves + drake + golems

[celest wing]

I personally don't mind that. It definitely leans towards more combat instead of dungeon crawling and mining

I feel the ashlands did it better though. It has other structures and more unique enemy variety to spice up that combat

[graceful cosmos]

Another big issue that relates to that btw is base defense. Without abusing game mechanics by building a dirt wall or digging a trench, you can't reliably defend your base. The ballista is horrible and very expensive for example

[celest wing]

I literally just put up stake walls and I have defended it since the beginning

[graceful cosmos]

Anyway i thought my opinion would resonate with more people, but it's okay that I'm alone in thinking these things

[vocal rivet]

How is doing the intended strategy abusing game mechanics?

[unique onyx]

i walk outside the front door and kill things

[graceful cosmos]

I doubt the game developers intended for everyone to abuse the fact that enemies can't jump

[celest wing]

Plus you don't need a trench nor impenetrable wall. Just use stake walls and you'll be fine

[celest wing]

No they def knew

[graceful cosmos]

Really? And they didn't add a drawbridge?

[vocal rivet]

' have any of you actually killed anything after eikthyr without building an arena that gives you immunity to their attacks' - I don't think I've bothered ever except maybe for Yagluth.

[graceful cosmos]

Disappointing... But whatever. I'll get off my soap box now lol. Just something to think about

[vocal rivet]

I don't think you know what abusing means.

[unique onyx]

i also wonder these things, the queen is definately not the easiest boss eikthr is like 3 spear throws and if you miss one it still kills it

[distant field]

We haven’t with any of the bosses. Maybe cleared space. But not building. And no cheese.

[ornate sigil]

I cheese almost every base I build, but don't use it in combat.

[graceful cosmos]

eithyr is difficult because it throws you for a loop. second kill is obviously much easier, but the queen was literally just standing there drinking mead and hitting her

[vocal rivet]

Eikthyr is NOT difficult. It's intentionally not.

[celest wing]

I think yagluth and bonemass are the only ones you can do this with

[shy marlin]

Difficulty is subjective

[vocal rivet]

You don't need to actually build anything for Bonemass, just stand on the altar or a nearby crypt.

[graceful cosmos]

eikthyr is the first thing that doesnt stand there and let you kill it. youve killed boars and deer with the occasional greyling until then

[celest wing]

Oh I meant cheesing the bosses with builds. I think you can only do it with like. 2 bosses. Maybe 3

[distant field]

Earthen banks and ditches are a historically accurate defensive measure. My country is literally covered in hundreds, if not thousands, of hill forts that were built exactly that way.

[graceful cosmos]

yeah i know that scott, but enemies wont try to dig through or jump the gap because they cant

if the enemies physically have no way of trying to get to you, i consider that a bug or at minimum cheesing the game

[vocal rivet]

Or, and try this on for size, an intended way to defend your base?

[celest wing]

I feel like it'd be lamer to remove that aspect to base building

[graceful cosmos]

use console commands to turn off enemies when youre in your base. same thing but you dont waste hours digging a hole

[plush umbra]

its a soloplayer pve game u can do whatever u want

[graceful cosmos]

and im not saying you cant but hold up wait

im not attacking valheim here guys. i love this game

[vocal rivet]

It doesn't come across.

[unique onyx]

nah i mean i kind of agree with that part. if the strat is to just build earth walls then what's the point in having the raids to begin with

[vocal rivet]

The raids are intended to stop you just camping in your base.

[unique onyx]

and the earth walls let you camp in your base

[vocal rivet]

For the mobs that that works for, sure.

[graceful cosmos]

all im saying is that there are fundamental issues with it that the developers could address to make it feel more fun and rewarding. i was reeled in by the first two biomes and then astounded by the sudden difficulty of the swamps. that should be a recurring theme though, and @derek they dont stop you because you literally just build a dirt wall.. dirt.. not stone or wood or something cool, but dirt

[vocal rivet]

You think the massive difficulty spike of Swamps should be the norm? You'll definitely be on your own with that opinion for sure.

[celest wing]

I think the swamp is only tough cuz of the rain. It is a major annoyance that you have no way to mitigate

[plush umbra]

the swamp scared the shit out of me and i died many times

but it was alot of fun

[ornate sigil]

the point of raids, even with earth walls, is to encourage you to do something. they also provide materials for biomes you might otherwise never return to.

[graceful cosmos]

the built in base defense is weak and crappy. ballistas are junk, walls fall in one troll hit (maybe two or three for stone) and even end game black marble crumbles to dust at the sight of a soldier. but that dirt though is impenetrable. this is the intended game mechanics?

[celest wing]

I never thought of the materials thing. That's honestly really neat cuz inherently you won't feel a want to return to older biomes unless absolutely necessary

[plush umbra]

you can go out of your base and fight

[celest wing]

I just use stake walls. I legit never had issues even when minibosses and charred raided

[distant field]

Actually something I loved about Mistlands was how it made materials from the second biome relevant again.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, honestly, that's all we have in our current world.

[celest wing]

Yeah that is really sick. It doesn't even have its own ore. It utilizes iron and silver into its major recipes

[graceful cosmos]

i'd like to add that im a kinda new player who downloaded valheim in december, didnt play after they broke controllers until they fixed it, and i play solo. my experience is not on a team or anything, so im building, fighting, etcetera all alone and i love building huge monuments and cities

[distant field]

I was thinking of the copper and bronze usage.

[celest wing]

I played solo the entire time

[graceful cosmos]

so its a bit of a different playstyle than usual, but they also said the game is playable with multiple people but really designed to be solo

[distant field]

And for me Ashland’s has made Silver even more relevant again.

[celest wing]

Literally 5 out of my 668 hours in this game was in multiplayer with my gf

[graceful cosmos]

gg kuri im glad your spawn rate is so low. good seed right there i guess

[vocal rivet]

I'd say the majority of players play solo. Or at least have a solo world on the go as well as maybe a server they're on.

[vocal rivet]

The spawn rate is the same for everyone.

[graceful cosmos]

duh.. no shit

[distant field]

Based on the comments I see here, it seems most play solo.

[celest wing]

No I just kinda adapted to the shit the game threw at me

Like I literally just got swarmed by a morgen, 3 asksvin(one of which was 1 star), 5 charred, and a marksmen

Oh and vultures

[graceful cosmos]

and that doesnt get annoying when its a recurring event while youre trying to build?

[celest wing]

No it usually happens when I'm exploring

[trail canyon]

pick a number

[graceful cosmos]

wouldnt a real base defense system make that a lot better instead of digging a trench to abuse the game mechanics?

[graceful cosmos]

7, do i win?

[ornate sigil]

love how vultures are so low on the threat spectrum that they are a after thought🤣

[trail canyon]

nope, i do. thanks

[celest wing]

YEAH lmao. They literally died in the swarm of attacks by the asksvin

[vocal rivet]

Digging a trench is not abusing anything, we've been through that.

[plush umbra]

mhm where can i send pics i want to send my base

[celest wing]

Literally half of the enemies killed eachother by accident

[graceful cosmos]

it wouldnt be if the enemies had a way of getting around it. base defense isnt supposed to be invulnerable

[distant field]

#building-screenshots

[celest wing]

Again. Stake walls. Stone walls to reinforce them ifu wanna

[ornate sigil]

that is definitely one of the nice things about ashlands. the enemy friendly fire.

[vocal rivet]

It's not? Flying mobs can still get over a moat or a hill.

[plush umbra]

ok i sent my base

[celest wing]

Yeah drakes and bats just fly over it

[graceful cosmos]

so drakes until you beat moder, and then nothing until mistlands... nice

[distant field]

We thankfully avoided any drake raids.

[vocal rivet]

Bats are before Mistlands.

[celest wing]

Dude seekers are a nightmare if you run with normal walls

[graceful cosmos]

oh yeah and i guess bats which dont damage anyone wearing armor lol..

[unique onyx]

it's why i go out the front door to fight. if i wanted to turn raids off i'd just use the setting lol

[celest wing]

Seeker soldier rip apart walls

[celest wing]

No but they can kill your livestock if not careful

[trail canyon]

i never was able to get to the snow...

[vocal rivet]

Bats can decimate your tame population. Lol.

[ornate sigil]

the way to combat fly overs is either balistas, spikes or fires along the top edge of a wall....had many a drake die to a campfire I placed near my exterior roof line.

[celest wing]

I legit do not put any effort into defenses. Just a stake wall and I'm fine

[graceful cosmos]

put your ranch elsewhere? i figured that out immediately lol. thats not rocket science. plus they wont attack walls so just close them in or something if you want them to constantly reproduce

[vocal rivet]

But 'there are no base building mechanics' /s

[shy marlin]

Ballistas are awful base defense

[vocal rivet]

Ballistas can be great if you set them up correctly. I wish they hadn't added the trophy system though.

[celest wing]

Yeah ballistas are kinda ass

[ornate sigil]

i admit it is limited to a couple options you have to be creative with, but it all comes out in the wash.

[graceful cosmos]

derek im about to block you. youre literally refusing to acknowledge the flaws of this game and keep talking in circles without addressing issues

[vocal rivet]

What issues are you intending to address? We just have different opinions. And that's OK.

And I'll happily acknowledge ALL of the actual flaws with the game.

[graceful cosmos]

if you love valheim that much thats fine, but dont act like they did anything except the bare minimum to make base defense viable

[shy marlin]

oh boy

[vocal rivet]

But yeah, I think you might have had the right idea.

[graceful cosmos]

ballistas are junk and end game, and walls crumble immediately if youre preoccupied. the only viable solution to building for 5 minutes without having things torn down is to abuse the mechanics of the game and create walls that enemies do not recognize as destroyable structures

[ornate sigil]

spikes, bear traps, ballista are the ones I remember off the top of my head, but I have used campfires and braziers as well in base defense.

leave a gap in the walls big enough for enemies to wander through and set a fire there, they will walk though and take fire damage.

[graceful cosmos]

none of that presents a long term and viable solution. it all breaks quickly and needs constant maintenance, which would be fine if building didnt take so long

[celest wing]

I know my girlfriend loved the progression of the biomes in the game.

The meadows is just foraging and starting out

Black forest eases you into mining and dungeon crawling

Swamp is an extension of the black forest, but more challenging with the rain

Mountains is a sort of corruption of the past biomes. Where it has dungeon crawling and mining, but is handled differently alongside the terrain giving a unique experience

Plains is a distinct change, focusing hard into combat while trading out mining and dungeon crawling for village raids

Mistlands is a culmination of all 3 styles with dungeon crawling in the infested mines, combat with raiding dvergr outposts, and mining with black marble

And the ashlands is a return to the brutal all out combat without compromising dungeon crawling or mining all that much, but combat is the primary focus

[vocal rivet]

That's a nice summary of the game.

[celest wing]

It makes me genuinely wonder in anticipation to how the deep north will be handled

[unique onyx]

icebergs and probably some snow

[ornate sigil]

lots of comments on deep north focus on wanting the terrain to be the "main enemy" from what I have read...

[vocal rivet]

Hm, we've kinda had two biomes in a row that do that though. I'm not sure I'd want another.

[azure yacht]

lives perfectly fine and safe with stone walls and ballistae without relying on cringy earth walls and moats

Sure

[ornate sigil]

but I do read little in comparison to what gets put up.

[graceful cosmos]

i can talk about the positives of valheim all night long. i agree that there's a lot going for it. theres a reason ive got 1040 hours in six months, but im trying to discuss things that would make it even better

[celest wing]

I always felt the jotunns had a major presence in the game. Especially the mistlands

[celest wing]

My rambling was kinda unrelated to your discussion

[graceful cosmos]

im guessing youre not a big builder which is fine, but this is a builder rpg. i want.. building

[azure yacht]

Everything in the cauldron and they cook whatever comes out

[celest wing]

But yeah. The jotunns are technically in the mistlands as they're the massive skeletons in the biome

[azure yacht]

Then... Build

Once again, this is just people giving way too much credit to raids.

[celest wing]

If anything I'd argue the building in the game is one of the most robust I've seen

[unique onyx]

building is really fun, although if i'm building outside of survival i usually have fly on

[graceful cosmos]

without a dumb dirt wall you cant because STANDARD ENEMY SPAWN, not raids, is too high. they destroy structures as you move on to the next one

[celest wing]

Stake. Walls.

[azure yacht]

The AI in this game is way too dumb to even attempt at pretending to be dangerous, I've built normally and the AI barely tries to destroy my stuff

[graceful cosmos]

stake walls dont work. ive tried that backed by stone. theres big guys too ya know, not just deer and boar

[celest wing]

I feel like it's a you problem if my rat brain can make it by with raids with just stake walls and nothing else

[ornate sigil]

same. makes building.....zippy. 🦸

[azure yacht]

You don't even need to build around the thought of exploiting their pathfinding, they break it themselves

[unique onyx]

maybe the difference is where you/others are landing. perhaps you landed close to a spawner you haven't seen or what not

[celest wing]

Shit like seeker soldiers, minibosses, trolls, charred. They all tried to invade and I just meet outside my base

[rotund dust]

Only raid ive had so far thats an issue is, when I got raided by slimes, and they jumped my walls, and killed my 2* boar, but that was def a me issue, as was renovating at the time 😂

[graceful cosmos]

i think thats a problem with your game then. they usually arent "broken" when they attack my base

[celest wing]

Oof. That has to hurt

[azure yacht]

You mean trolls? The ones that are easily destroyed with pierce weapons, ballistae and are also limited to just two per raid that can also be kited away from your builds meaning that they might not even approach them?

[celest wing]

I do agree that the pathfinding in the game is a little fucked and easy to exploit. Sometimes the enemy will forget you're even there despite standing in front of you

[rotund dust]

You mean, the guys you parry then one shot? 😂

[graceful cosmos]

yeah and anyone with a higher attack than early game enemies

[unique onyx]

if you've got ballista with troll raids you can probably parry and one shot them

[distant field]

Building where?

[azure yacht]

troll raids spawns

Oh no... Comes out of the base away from it

There, 0 danger now... They will now follow me

[celest wing]

Trolls are mega easy to handle. A crude bow can kill them

[graceful cosmos]

im not talking about fighting. ive already addressed that none of the enemies pose a combat challenge because theyre formula based and predictable. but there are enemies that can bring down a wall in seconds, other than a troll

and that makes building annoying at best

[celest wing]

I literally never had to rebuild a broken wall

[azure yacht]

Trolls raids only happen after elder, by then you should have enough weaponry to face them.

Bronze spear breaks them, finewood bow too, argeir obliterates them

[celest wing]

Even when seekers tried to blow my base to pieces

[rotund dust]

Just dont let the enemies hit the walls 😂

[graceful cosmos]

k

[ornate sigil]

enemy priority number 1 is you. number 2 is certain base structures. they will go after (2) if they can't get to (1).

[unique onyx]

go outside the walls and fight them

[graceful cosmos]

yeah every two seconds. jeez im talking in circles here because half of yall dont remember or werent there when i addressed this crap. im out because im annoyed

[celest wing]

Bye

[azure yacht]

Seriously, the amount of people that keep thinking raids present any amount of danger is hilariously worrisome.

Valheim players are really afraid of that? Bruh, I've seen the AI get STUCK in a perfectly clear way towards me.

Does that mean that this dumb AI is smarter than the average valheim player?

[shy marlin]

🫡

[celest wing]

The only one that scared me was gjall. And they only do that in mistlands

[shy marlin]

🙂 these are the people that nerfed the ashlands 🙂

[azure yacht]

It's unbelievable...

[rotund dust]

I think the issue is, HOW has majority of mankind become so dumb, that a faulty AI System is smarter than it... But thats an entirely different subject, and one we won't go down the rabbit hole on 😂

[shy marlin]

Truly

[distant field]

Bah. I really wanted to know what enemies were stopping g them from building.

[rotund dust]

The Food Buff enemy. They had none on, 100%

[celest wing]

Tbf I only struggled in the ashlands cuz the game chose to spawn a morgen and then 15 other enemies(not an exaggeration)

[azure yacht]

You still have time to at the very least experience the Omaha beach landing before the nerfs go live

Probably one of the best moments in the game and they removed it...

[celest wing]

Oh my god the beach landing. Literally fucking normandy

[ornate sigil]

omaha? normandy?

[vocal rivet]

That's assuming they do. It's still in testing for a reason.

[distant field]

Oh, I’ve been to the Ashlands.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, both WWII beach assaults. Kinda what the devs were aiming for in Ashlands.

[celest wing]

Normandy was D-Day when the allies stormed nazi beaches

[ornate sigil]

ah, a forgotten/lesser known(to me) portion of history.

[azure yacht]

Gamers are just built differently...

But there were pieces missing so they're now a malfunctioning amalgamation of unfitting pieces.

Games devs should absolutely start prioritizing what they want for their own games over what players want. Players cannot be trusted with making a game

[vocal rivet]

The funny thing is, there are a LOT of things that could be improved or outright need fixing, but none of them were things they complained about.

[rotund dust]

The gamers today, are not the gamers from the 90s, thats the issue. A fundamental generation difference.

[azure yacht]

I have 0 hope they will tweak them...

[tepid prawn]

true

[celest wing]

Yeah I spent an hour straight on a single ashlands beach clearing out enemies

[ornate sigil]

welp, 360 silver smelted. only about 120 to go.

[unique onyx]

that's like 480 more silver than you need

[distant field]

I do think the spawn rates in the Ashlands are a little too high. But the lag is the biggest problem for me. I think we wouldn’t mind the high enemy numbers so much if we felt we could fight effectively without enemies teleporting around us.

[empty blaze]

this game is awesome played it for 8 hours straight

[azure yacht]

Playing solo and still felt like all-out war...

They took it away from me

[unique onyx]

ashlands is fun moving forward. i'm in the boat though where i don't think it should be full respawn if you fall back a bit

[ornate sigil]

what can I say, cleared (nearly) a whole mountain for the sake of having atleast 1 of everything silver.

[azure yacht]

I would've been more ok if the in-land rates were nerfed but the shores were swarming with enemies at least

[rotund dust]

Gotta max level that stuff too or its not complete 😛

[ornate sigil]

in process.

[empty blaze]

i didnt expect to love this game, thought i would be most likely refunding it but nope its amazing

[vocal rivet]

Nothing in this game needs max levelling.

That's the reason so many people think it's too grindy.

[ornate sigil]

yep. nothing needs max level, but i like to.

[rotund dust]

I leveled up my Silver Sword/Shield couple days ago, and Sivler sword 3 and 4, was 40 and 60, I was like, well, glad im a hoarder, and cant run past anything

[sly oyster]

i dont think thats why lol

[vocal rivet]

It's a big part of it.

[celest wing]

Yeah the beach landing was fucking rough

[sacred tinsel]

Just found 64 flametal in a single chest yeesh. That's like triple my previous record

[rotund dust]

if first play thru, no need to rush the biomes, take it slow, enjoy it 😄

[empty blaze]

im exploring every single crack n crevise

[rotund dust]

I also do the same thing, cos i hate my map being fogged 😛

[empty blaze]

just killed my first trolls, got so jumpscared by first one haha

[distant field]

Yeah, we’ve found just taking and holding ground incredibly difficult. And we’ve been clearing out spawners as we find them. But the mobs just come back. Maybe doing that should just have a greater effect.

[rotund dust]

Moments like these are precious, love seeing new players enjoying the same things we all did 🙂

[empty blaze]

yeah i decided to go in blind as usually i eatch too much yt before i get a game and wow its amazing

[unique onyx]

it might be some people are playing on older seeds too .. on my oldest play through the ashlands rendered really weird. the spire water is probably 2 times longer than my newer playthrough and a lot of towers and things rendered in teh water

[celest wing]

Truth be told. The morgen imo isn't even the most dangerous ashlands enemy. The fallen valkyrie is absolutely the most dangerous

[sacred tinsel]

It doesn't really change anything. The spawn rate is insane, and clearing out the spawners doesn't really impact this. I just had around 20 charred spawn in 60 seconds in a small area with no spawners.

[vocal rivet]

That would be a bug if that was true.

[unique onyx]

it is true you'll be moving forward, turn around and it's just a mess back behind what you've already cleared

[ornate sigil]

most spawners aren't visible afaik. otherwise the would would be (visually) littered worse than the minimap with pins.

[sacred tinsel]

Best strategy imo, is to scout with no intention of fighting with eikthyr and try to find as many fortresses as possible. Once you know their locations, beeline to them, clear the area, and take on the fortress with bonemass. Trying to "take ground" or something is a waste of time unless you like fighting charred.

[sly oyster]

ha i just saw blood puddings recipe, i think onions are looking really delicious

[distant field]

I feel it helps, but not as much as it maybe should.

[vocal rivet]

Only physical spawners are visible (and the one-time runestone ones).

[sacred tinsel]

Yeah, I hear the PTR change is significant. Looking forward to it. Killing thousands of charred is boring imo.

[echo crest]

Most say it nerfed things too much, so that spawning is way too rare

[sacred tinsel]

First I've heard that sentiment

[vocal rivet]

The bad bit was that they changed both the spawn chance AND the spawn interval.

[vocal rivet]

For those that have played both versions that's the general consensus.

[sacred tinsel]

whoever is responding to me, you're blocked fyi

[ornate sigil]

got the "leather scrap delivery" raid just now and I hear the bats dieing to my campfires.

[tepid prawn]

my least fav raid out of all

I disabled it by not killing BM this play through

[sacred tinsel]

Only one that makes it up to my mistlands tower heh

[distant field]

They said “For those that have played both versions that's the general consensus.”

[clever saffron]

What do you get out of hilders request

[vocal rivet]

I suspect they wanted to avoid seeing what I wrote if they've blocked me.

[sacred tinsel]

dissappointment 🤣

[rotund dust]

I didnt realise, silver sword absolutely destroys Abominations 😮

[vocal rivet]

You get some great clothes that gives you a cool in-base buff.

[distant field]

Oh, I know.

[vocal rivet]

Then why repeat what I said so they're forced to see it anyway?

[ornate sigil]

increased amount of purchaseable equips designed with base building in mind. along with certain unique raids.

[sacred tinsel]

Oh do you still get the raids after you finish it?

[distant field]

Because I felt what you said was worth repeating and relevant.

[celest wing]

Some raids aren't tied to bosses

[vocal rivet]

Oh, then fair enough. And I appreciate the support.

[vocal rivet]

The Hildir raids are, which I presume is what they're talking about.

[celest wing]

Oh yeah those are

[sly oyster]

i seem to have found a silver node that the wishbone doesnt see

[distant field]

They are? Huh. How so?

[vocal rivet]

Kill one of the bosses and get the corresponding raid afterwards.

[sacred tinsel]

I had this happen on my last mountain playthrough.

[drowsy magnet]

part of it sticking out of the ground

[celest wing]

Like the minibosses outside of lord reto have raids tied to them

[distant field]

Oh, the quest bosses?! I don’t consider them ‘bosses’. Mini-bosses maybe.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, mini-bosses are, by definition, bosses. Just smaller.

[tepid prawn]

3 more raids having a chance to come to your base, as well as a bigger choice of colors for some really nice looking base item clothing, which make you use less stamina for hoe, hammer, cultivator

[sly oyster]

drakes got that og deathsquito aggro range lol

[vocal rivet]

Oh, and they're the only raids (so far) that the actual mini-boss comes with it!

[ornate sigil]

bats raid. "I don't have cauldron prime...?"

[clever saffron]

How do you even kill the mountain mini boss me and my friend spent a hour and got him one tap and then we both died and by the time we were back he was full hp

[distant field]

Kinda. I just thought you were saying they were triggered/disabled by main biome bosses. I now understand what you were saying, though.

[vocal rivet]

Oh, no, sorry. My bad.

[sly oyster]

sidestep the ice attack that shoots out the front, get free damage, parry the normal attacks, shoot his ass when hes pulsing the ground

[ornate sigil]

frost resist, and silver armor helps. one tanks the other does DPS. bring health meads and your best hp foods for the tank.

[sly oyster]

and then also remember that enemies in this game cant jump

my kingdom for about 3500 stone

i wanted to make this base look really cool with a nice wall built into the structures but hooooly cow they are expensive

[tepid prawn]

I think I've used over 80000 stone in my builds across 10 playthroughs (so far) xD

[sly oyster]

getting stone is a chore

[shy marlin]

Rookie numbers

[tepid prawn]

how many stone is one bm chest again?

[shy marlin]

They're 5 by 2 right?

[sly oyster]

a real chest is 2400

[tepid prawn]

blackmetal chests

[shy marlin]

missed the black metal part mb

32*50 then for bm, holy lol someones had too much to drink

[tepid prawn]

anyway my first char is just about to hit 98 pickaxe skill from that

[ornate sigil]

wow. that mine(pun)d-blowing.

best i ever get in a skill is about 70.

[clever saffron]

A skeleton surprise

[tepid prawn]

run & jump are at 100 🙂

[ornate sigil]

ya, not cautious enough for that.

[tepid prawn]

that is also called "a trainer for blocking skill"

[ornate sigil]

ah yes, the "shield generator fuel shipment" raid.

[sharp raptor]

My run and jump were 100 before I reached ashlands... Theyre back in the 70s now but was a rough drop in skills until I geared up

[sly oyster]

i just mined another 210 silver and i have no idea why

[tepid prawn]

This current playthrough has only just now reached the mistlands... but it is a high skill char and I m being extra careful, next playthrough I will be much more careless again haha

[clever saffron]

Is there a way to put moss on my house

[ornate sigil]

without mods, not that i am aware of.

closest thing would be vines, after reaching ashlands

[ornate sigil]

haha....you need 420 coal

the greenest, dankest coal out there 😎

[sly oyster]

i pushed the cart off a sheer cliff in a whiteout so i cant see down. i slide down, take 100 damage in onehit, and land 2 inches from a wolf that is chilling on a vertical cliff like a damn mountain goat that slaps me down to 3 hp

[sacred tinsel]

If you were going to cave on a few building mods for aesthetic purposes, in an otherwise vanilla game, Plant Everything would definitely make the top 3

[sly oyster]

ive gotta get plant everything, that looks so cool i just found out about it

i can make some sick gardens and farms thatll look great with my base

[ornate sigil]

there are a lot of cool mods. one lets you rotate build pieces (in 3 axis's) and another lets you build on top of your boat.....lots out there.

[sly oyster]

oh man i was just thinking about how rotating would be nice

ah, rip cart, i just caught up to the loot box tumbling down the mountain

wow it was really close to making it, the nails werent far

[clever saffron]

How good is the silver sword

[shy marlin]

Pretty good, bis for yag

[sly oyster]

i enjoy using it a lot

im kinda sad i have to go back to using frostnir once i kill yagh

[ornate sigil]

man, getting impatient. less than 50 silver to smelt left. then a massive amount of upgrades for a second fight vs moder. the first I felt under kitted so I want to try the other end of things.

[vocal rivet]

Fill a couple of smelters and then just go to sleep.

[keen epoch]

hey guys im looking for a group to join

[ornate sigil]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 is your best bet

[quaint oriole]

sent you a dm @keen epoch

[tepid prawn]

Best weapon in the game to fight Plains boss, also very good for 2 types of mob in Ashlands, not the best to fight most normal plains or mistland monsters though

[rotund dust]

Its fine for normal plains monsters tho, two hits fulings, one hits deathsquitos, and it does spirit damage to growths...

[celest wing]

Frostner generally outshines it, but honestly a very reliable weapon still

[shy marlin]

Well silver sword has cleave and frostner doesn't

Give and go with the two weapons

[tepid prawn]

Blackmetal sword is also really good for quite a few scenarios in plains

[fluid cove]

kinda wish digging works more like DRG ngl, would love to have a cave base as an option other than building a house

[rain flare]

I am a solid advocate of the black metal sword for killing anything in the plains

Even the boss

[fluid cove]

isn't the Silver Sword better for Yag

[rain flare]

It is your best option for killing mobs in Ashlands if swords are your main tool

[rain flare]

Depends on how you fight him
If you are using regular swings, silver sword is better

Secondary attacks give the black metal sword a fighting chance

[shy marlin]

Is that even true?

I highly doubt it tbh

[rain flare]

You underestimate the power of the meteor sword

I’ve shared a vid I made ages ago on this topic

[shy marlin]

Link?

[rain flare]

OK what the hel 🤣

I meant mistlands NOT Ashlands 😂

[rain flare]

#memes-and-clips

[shy marlin]

Just by skimming through the video your testing is not the greatest and shouldn't be be a reliable source

There's way too much variance to make any claim based on that test

you'd have to get the exact same yag attacks, patterns etc with both the silver and blackmetal sword to make any comparison at all

But this is overly pedantic ig, both bm and silver sword are good

And anyways shouldn't really have to test this, silver swords value is 105 vs bm sword of 95

Regardless of secondary or normal attack silver sword just has more value

Blackmetal just becomes more comparable (while silver sword is still better) when using secondary because there's less hits/min going on because secondary is slower.

[rain flare]

LoL 🤣
That is a high bar for testing mate.
I can’t force Yagluth to attack me the same way each time.

The point of the test is if you use the secondary attacks of both weapons (frostner added to include another solid weapon choice) both weapons are viable and effective

I added that at the end of my test video if I’m not mistaken

[shy marlin]

Yea. It's the scientist in me I'm sorry. Control experiments and such lol! Yea, they're both viable and effective, I just got intrigued is all

[rain flare]

It’s actually a really cool thing that weapons from a previous biome are just as effective - if not a bit better - for killing a boss in the next biome ❤️‍🔥

And the fact that both silver sword/frostner are somewhat viable in ashlands is also pretty niche

Mistwalker is definitively a better choice for swords though

[shy marlin]

yea 100% agreed

There's some neat silver knife tech for fader summons

[uneven umbra]

how rare is it to run into odin?

[ornate sigil]

not very imo. its harder to find 2 lavithans in the same general area or find a 2 star wolf. but like most things, i think it comes down to RNG.

[uneven umbra]

can fullings drop flax?

[tepid prawn]

no, only growing in camps or in chests

[uneven umbra]

is the only way fulling villagies

[tepid prawn]

yep as a plant or in chest

[uneven umbra]

can you build a workbench in a frost cave

[fluid cove]

each barley/flax you plant will have a 1:3 yield ratio, so you dont need to worry about raiding another fuling village to keep having them

you'd still need to raid them for black metal and fuling totems tho

[merry pebble]

1:2 no? From one you get 2 when they grow up

[fluid cove]

oh wait nvm i just remember i played with 2x resource lol

[mossy river]

Flax is of such limited use that there's an argument for not planting it, only raiding it.

[restive pumice]

Any ideas how to not get motion sickness from a LOX

[buoyant ether]

hey anyone mod knowledgable i could DM with some questions ?

[vocal rivet]

There's some very knowledgable people with mods over at #mods-issues

[gloomy dune]

its been like 2 years since i played

does xbox one have like 10-20 fps still

[buoyant ether]

nobody talks there so.... for once would be nice to get info without days of delay in an answer

thats why i asked if i could DM some1

[rotund dust]

Does Fire Resistance Mead stack with Fenris Armor?

[toxic rose]

Only max tier resistance will be used

[rotund dust]

Aight, will keep my Fenris Armor on, and use Poison pots for growths 😄

Would of been cool to get Poison Resistance armor in swamp, instead of + Bow Skill

[merry pebble]

Nah, bread and lox pies need a lot, + Its really not hard to farm

[fair cairn]

you get a poison resistance armor in swamp though

[rotund dust]

We do?

[fair cairn]

its litterally the root set well, not the entire root set just the helmet

[rotund dust]

You're right, this would of been handier to know earlier XD

Guess I cant read 😄

[buoyant ether]

some of these mods kinda break the viking theme a bit too much 🧐

[buoyant ether]

dw i cant either 💀

[merry pebble]

The the root mask gives 50% resistance, the mead gives 75% but you have to replenish it, depends what you personaly want 🙂

[gloomy dune]

i havent played in like 2 years is the ashlands update good

[fair cairn]

the root mask is great for when you run out of poison resist and get poisoined right at the time

[merry pebble]

Oh yes, and quite chalenging 😄

[rotund dust]

Is this the same for Fenris Set, vs First Fire Mead?

[gloomy dune]

i only remember dying to the dumb mosquitoes and getting one shot in the plains

[fair cairn]

the root chest piece is great for that untill you get set on fire

[merry pebble]

Yeah, i guess i can see that, tho i usually go with iron because "mor armr betah" 😁

[fair cairn]

i only got heavy armor when i went to mountains

[merry pebble]

I believe the fire wine gives you also 50

[buoyant ether]

i want to love it but i have insane lag in ashlands and having a shit ton of mobs at u while lagging isnt much fun

other than that, its great honestly

[rotund dust]

I went, Rag --> Troll --> Fenris, (Aint killed moder yet) So will prob Keep Fenris on For Moder/Yag

[gloomy dune]

the lag on xbox one is insane like I remember getting 10 fps in the swamp hopefully it wont be like that

[merry pebble]

Take a root harnesk with you, halves all Pierce dmg 🙂

[buoyant ether]

i have a pretty good pc and no lag in the game otherwise at all but ashlands just drops it to shit levels... i hope its something they can and WILL fix

[gloomy dune]

ill make sure to keep that in mind

[gloomy dune]

no they have to fix like I noticed the optimization is just really bad on this game

[buoyant ether]

man having all these mod options makes my indecisiveness doubled 💀

[merry pebble]

The game Is indeed quite CPU heavy

[buoyant ether]

given they are a small team but yeah, i agree

[gloomy dune]

i rather get massive optimization updates than expansion updates

[vocal rivet]

Optimisation has improved with every update over the last 3 years. Honestly it's only really noticeable with Ashlands these days and I know they're working on that.

[merry pebble]

But if you fiddle with settings and have decent system Its no problem at all

[buoyant ether]

if i reduce background performance it might make ashlands better?

[vocal rivet]

In fact, optimisation was the reason the original roadmap was scrapped, so they could work on the obvious issues with the terrain system rather than ploughing on with new content.

[slender burrow]

Does anyone in Australia have a server running?

[merry pebble]

Look through #1024264966712340510 🙂

[fresh frigate]

anybody up for some valheim

[lyric olive]

I gotta say the ashland changes barely made a difference. Both me and my friend have concluded that the difference is really small.

[buoyant ether]

WHY 0 NO MAP RUNS GOING ON IN EUROPE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

well, there might be one 😏

I WANT LIKE 10 RUNS GOING ON OF THIS GAME

[buoyant ether]

want to expand on that ?

[lyric olive]

What more is there to explain? The spawn rates got changed and I barely can notice it.

It's still a very chaotic biome

[unreal veldt]

i love the smell of freshly smelted iron

[buoyant ether]

i think thats the idea for it...

they just gotta improve the performance so i could actually survive there

[lyric olive]

No shit sherlock, I'm saying there isnt much difference after the changes.

[buoyant ether]

zug zug

[empty blaze]

yo guys any way to delete items? i got a lil too much shit that i wanan delete

[unreal veldt]

Obliterator

or just throw shit in the ocean

😄

i usually throw junk in the ocean

[empty blaze]

bro it wont let me level the grouynd wtf

bro the leveling thing doesnt work

[drowsy magnet]

are you using the hoe

[buoyant ether]

😏

[buoyant ether]

okay one special server tried out.... they might not be my jam

when its that far from the normal game

like way way way too customized

[warm sandal]

hard to answer that one... depends on your preferences... for me: i like it, they could lower the spawnrates a bit but otherwise...niiiiice... others say differently 😄

[drowsy magnet]

after destroying the spawners it doesn't seem like there are many mobs around

[abstract holly]

Has there ever been done a tweak or addition that came from #suggestions ? Genuinely curious

[merry pebble]

Many

[abstract holly]

Cool

[serene talon]

damn fire hazards are bad but no charcoal kilns is a plus

[ornate sigil]

Side eyes the surtling spawners👀

No fire hazzard needed.

[warm sandal]

them spawners come back 😄 wait and see 😄

[serene talon]

especially in multiplayer its not enough coal from surtlings and going to collect it is just a big hustle for me

[ornate sigil]

I haven't played multi-player in a long time but, I set up a small portal hub to more than one spawner. It allowed me to gather 5 spawners worth in coal every run. At 4 coal per surtling(average), 5 spawners makes something like 80 coal per run. That's 4 smelters.

[buoyant ether]

time to stop caring about looks and just build functional 😤

[unreal veldt]

i found a silver vein that was sticking out of a side of a mountain before i even defeated bonemass

i pre prepared myself for the mountains early

wait i just found 2 silver veins side by side

never in my 700+ Hours ive seen 2 silver veins very close to eachother

[foggy glacier]

I once found 3 in the same location.

It's super sweet when that happens.

[unreal veldt]

im guessing its rare

cause i normally find only a single vein

[daring geyser]

Got a question, If i made a server that was designed for visitors, it'd be RP
Should it be vanilla for ease of joining? or would people still be likely to join modded?

[foggy glacier]

yeah, it's rare.

[buoyant ether]

this discord has made me think people are wildly more acclined to play vanilla ?

what kind of settings are thinking of ?

small QoL mods etc tho shouldnt be an issue, idk how known modding is generally

so again, id say probs vanilla might lower the bar for entry

[daring geyser]

If i did modded, i'd use litliterature for the books
but if i were to do vanilla, all the written text will be in the discord

[unreal veldt]

so far my current seed has been the most fun ive had in a while cause there is alot to explore on the spawn island i havent fully explored it and so far i have 3 main bases, 3 shelters throughout the map

[trail lotus]

well if you go in the mods-issue you will see way more folks playing with mod 🤭

[unreal veldt]

the previous seeds ive had werent fun

[fervent minnow]

is the obliterator kinda mid?
5 wood for 1 coal seems wildly overpriced

[unreal veldt]

that sounds like a scam

[daring geyser]

If you like big green starter islands, check out "darK"

[fervent minnow]

thats what it does as far as I can tlel

[buoyant ether]

whats the RP stuff like in this game ?

i thought people meant like basically immersive mode with RP

[fervent minnow]

seems like it'd be somewhat good cause you can do silly emotes

[daring geyser]

When i say RP, all i think that means is speaking as your character in game

[fervent minnow]

oh

[unreal veldt]

i rarely do it but i defeated bonemass legitimately without devcommands

[fair cairn]

ive found 4 of them all with in close range, litterally made one giant home spanning 4 wide sliver veins, i dont think theya re that rare tbh

[fervent minnow]

same, is that not normal

the bonemass thing

[unreal veldt]

I usually die too much against bonemass

[fair cairn]

its meant to destroy the stuff you cant get rid of easily

[unreal veldt]

but this time i managed without dying

[fervent minnow]

oop i beat him first try in this world 😭

I find its attacks very, very simple

Just get a poison resistance mead and its a breeze with dodge rolling

[buoyant ether]

his poison mist rly makes it hard to see his attacks which is kinda annoying

[fervent minnow]

as far as I saw he has 3 attacks

[buoyant ether]

what do yall do to keep new runs fresh ?

[unreal veldt]

thats what i did i saved poison resist meads for the boss

[fervent minnow]

Big swing, big poison attack, and lob enemies

After the big swing, you're able to get in 6 attacks with the mace

[unreal veldt]

build multiple bases

[fervent minnow]

this is my htird playhtrough and im playing wiht a friend, but also taking things very slow

[fair cairn]

i dont think bonemass is hard enough to warrant devcommands

[fervent minnow]

bonemass was one of the easier ones imo

though tbf, all the first three bosses have been super easy

as long as you know how to dodge roll at least

[unreal veldt]

tell that to people who use bows

[fervent minnow]

Eikthr can be beaten with just a crude bow and some wood arrows

[fervent minnow]

I mean that's on you 😭

[fair cairn]

tbh i suck at dodging, i parry and block and run if i cant get close enough

[buoyant ether]

bonemass with blunt dmg goes down kinda ez

[fervent minnow]

well theres your issue

[fair cairn]

using bows against bonemass is like using arrows against a tank

[fervent minnow]

Dodge rolls are wildly OP imo

[fair cairn]

my issue? ive killed him multiple times now ive still not considered him hard

[buoyant ether]

i-frames are our friends

[fervent minnow]

🤷

I thought you were saying you found it hard

[unreal veldt]

my 2 friends who i played with a few years ago had troubles defeating an abomination for christ sake

[fervent minnow]

I havent fought any bosses past bonemass just yet so, we'll see if i find the others hard

[fair cairn]

arrows will do that to ya

[fervent minnow]

bow reliance is a curse

Dodge roll supremacy

[fair cairn]

ive found the abom really annoying to fight cause he keeps running but once i overcame my ungrounded fear i went and made a iron sword and he got pretty easy

[fervent minnow]

abomination as in the tree guy for root armour?

[unreal veldt]

only use for bow is normally against trolls, Drakes, Deer, Fuling Berserkers

[fair cairn]

yes

[fervent minnow]

oh yeah i just used fire arrows LMAO

only because we NEVER found it at day time

[buoyant ether]

ah what fun... my gear got dropped BEHIND some fenris within a cave....

[fervent minnow]

So we literally couldnt fight it melee, because there'd be about 20 draugrs, 50 skeletons and 10 surtlers running at us WHILE abomination was there

[fair cairn]

keep running away (how i lost a trophy and the roots)

[buoyant ether]

what to do 😫

[fervent minnow]

my friend wanted it so they farmed it while i was asleep

[unreal veldt]

in one playthrough i somehow managed to skip crudebow for a finewood bow

[fair cairn]

either get the body recovery squad or get a second set and kill the fenris

[buoyant ether]

whats the body recovery squad

[fair cairn]

a squad that recovers bodies

[buoyant ether]

AYO?!?!??!

WHAT ARE THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE

some black dudes came outta nowhere and jumped me

[unreal veldt]

i never use Rafts unless the spawn is on a tiny ass island

[buoyant ether]

never seen them before,

[unreal veldt]

there are seeds where you are forced to build a raft

[fair cairn]

black dudes? so werewolf's?

unless we talking about growths

[distant field]

Fenring?

[unreal veldt]

growths scare the shit outta me

[distant field]

@buoyant ether : are you in the mountains at night?

[buoyant ether]

was dusk but yeah

they were human-lookin

[distant field]

Yeah, those are Fenrings. Very aggressive.

Only come out at night.

[buoyant ether]

nah they werent fenrir... 0 wolf like qualities

it was a raid event-ish

[distant field]

They’re Fenrings. That’s what they’re called.

[distant field]

Did you have the red circle?

[buoyant ether]

yeah