valheim-chat

[shy marlin]

mods then

[worthy turtle]

hm ok, ty

[terse harbor]

patch notes for today's update?

[vocal rivet]

We haven't had an update today.

[terse harbor]

51.1kb update today or yesterday?

[ornate sigil]

Updates that small and without a patch note are usually from the distributors (steam, Xbox, ect.). Might Wana check if there are any notes there since there aren't any here.

[terse harbor]

didn't realise steam could update valheim without irongate, interesting + thanks

[gray sand]

Platforms can and do update all games on them without publishers knowing or caring.

Because the platform updates don't affect anything the publisher is doing.

[terse harbor]

I figured that would be a steam update, not a game update though. Good to know!

[drowsy citrus]

I am very surprised there has not been a patch update

[vocal rivet]

Really? With most of the team on vacation?

[ornate sigil]

It all depends on if the dev team is working on something complex or not. Something less complex, like re-skinning something, wouldn't take as long as implementing something completely new.
There is also the issue that Derek brought up of vacation as well.

[drowsy citrus]

We have had 2 ptb updates... So is it really shocking to not have a patch with them on vacation?

[gray sand]

No.

Not shocking at all.

Given there is heated debate on both sides of the changes they are proposing.

[ornate sigil]

Not all content in PTB makes it to live I would imagine. It's their testing grounds like a limited release of a product in select markets.

[gray sand]

So option A would be "fuck everyone who dislikes this, ship it."

And option B is "let it cook. See if there is a sweet spot."

[shy marlin]

The sweet spot is another slider but that's a good amount of effort

[drowsy citrus]

I'm just saying that typically there is a public patch very shortly after ptb..

[vocal rivet]

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no.

And very rarely when they're on bloody vacation.

[gray sand]

Typically for Valheim?
Because I'm sure if we pulled all previous patch dates and compared, "typical" behavior wouldn't be what you think it is 😁

[ornate sigil]

Shortest PTB to live I have seen was a month(?) To 6 weeks I think.

[drowsy citrus]

Guess I'm dumb. Thanks yall

[old flint]

Exploring an infested mine rn.. so far died to 2 star tics and 2 star seekers?? what

[gray sand]

Mines are more starred than Mistlands.

[fossil delta]

Use the iron sledge. Since it sounds like you cannot make Demolisher yet. The AoE makes things MUCH easier.

[ornate sigil]

Or the 2 versions of a stink bomb. The poison is helpful on smaller enemies like ticks and broodlings.

[old flint]

is demolisher worth it?

[fossil delta]

True, they do help.

[old flint]

I just got last black cores I need

[fossil delta]

Absolutely.

My wife and I are big fans of Demolisher.

[gray sand]

5000%

[fossil delta]

Its a slaughter, most of the time, when we are both using it in the mines.

[azure yacht]

Anything that has an explosion AoE can hit through walls. From enemies and even you

And demolisher has a large aoe

[fossil delta]

Yep. Very nice for killing seekers behind those secret doors.

[ornate sigil]

Bonus is it is blunt instead of slash or pierce damage

[fossil delta]

Does that really matter in the Mistlands? Except for maybe with tics, pretty much everything is resistant to every damage type.

[ornate sigil]

Someone did a breakdown of resistance types a while ago and blunt was the least resisted. Pierce was the most(I blame the bows).

[old flint]

I have nearly max mistlands armor and a 2star tick deals 21dmg per hit

[fossil delta]

However, the big hammers are great for dealing with tics.

[gray sand]

Well yeah... it's a 2 star.

[fossil delta]

Demolisher, at lvl 3, kills the 2 stars in 3 to 4 hits. My skill is in the 60 range.

Plus it knocks them off and away, so stops the damage while your killing them.

Knockback for Demolisher is over 200.

[azure yacht]

Outside of Mistlands yes, inside no, it's on the same level as slash and pierce

[oak walrus]

oh yeah forgot those were possible

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I think only tics are not resistant to blunt. Regardless, the Iron Sledge and Demolisher are great against tics.

[silk arrow]

Is it better to upgrade ashlands weapons before crafting the variants that require bloodstones and the like?

[fossil delta]

Using the stones resets the item to lvl 1.

[silk arrow]

Oh bummer, so better to do the variants first then huh?

[fossil delta]

Thats how I will do it.

[gray sand]

Variant*

Lightning > All

[silk arrow]

What lightning?

[oak walrus]

what happens if you upgrade a weapon with a gemstone in it? does it get rid of the effect?

[livid widget]

ballista need buff

[fossil delta]

Mistlands ballista still suck. Even assigning a trophy doesn't make them any less sucky.

Fought a gjall, with a gjall trophy assigned, and the thing didn't even fire one time.

[livid widget]

Yet they have no problem targeting you if you have it set to everything :p

It would be nice if you could add multiple trophies.

And then of course improve the dmg and targeting

[azure yacht]

Probably because it wasn't within its range.

It's 45° in a 28m range

Gjalls and trolls are their specialty

Well, actually anything that's big and slow, Berserkers too

[livid widget]

I respectfully disagree. I watched 2 trolls take out two ballista and barely got a scratch

[merry sun]

Blood is better in Slayer, Lighting is good on most weapons, but primal is just amazing at boss killing ngl

Primal Fang has some potential, but Primal axes carry the primal weapons by far

[fossil delta]

It was every where from directly above to no more than 20 meters away. It only went directly over head because of how it pathed past a near by tower.

[azure yacht]

If you put them in the troll"s range the result is expected

[merry sun]

Which ammo?

[livid widget]

black metal

THey just threw rocks at them

ALthough they did eventually close the gap and just finish them off and a huge portion of the wall

[azure yacht]

I've had my ballistae destroy the most dangerous enemies without me barely intervening 🤷

And I'm sure they're not different from any other's

[paper venture]

Ashlands was very good, will Deep North be the last update for the game?

[merry sun]

disagree with gjalls. Most of ballista efficiency is killing unwarned targets, like Fullings and Squitos, especially those who dont own a huge hp pool

but probably a good placement does change it

[fallen zephyr]

I'm with you. The Gjall weakspots are clearly not targeted by the ballistae.

[merry sun]

Idk about Deep North being the last Content Expansion of the game. But im certain that many bugs will be fixed to reach the 1.0 (Official launch)

[silk arrow]

Am I missing something? Mace and sword only show blood and primal for me.

[paper venture]

I think dlcs would be great ideas, armor, weapons, a new completely different map something like that

[merry sun]

Even the roadmap now is outdated, somethings contained in it have not yet arrived in the game

[vocal rivet]

It's not a content expansion, it's the final biome of the planned game.

[merry sun]

Eh, forgot about Early acess

[vocal rivet]

The roadmap was discontinued in May 2021 and hasn't been relevant since then.

[merry sun]

Valheim devs want to give us a full experience. So i wont be surprised if Deep North + few things added and 💥 game completed

[fallen zephyr]

I didn't know that, but now that you've said it, it explains a lot.

[merry sun]

"Die like a hero, or live long enough to become a villain"

[livid widget]

Hopefully that includes ocean biome updates

[wraith sun]

glad we got another seamonster, disapointed the meat can't be used in any recipie other than cooking it

[livid widget]

Maybe they'll do that as a DLC

[vocal rivet]

Obviously we're getting an ocean biome update

We are not getting DLCs, we've been told that a thousand times.

[merry sun]

I dont know how bad this is 😆. But many corps just chop the game in many pieces and sell many DLC's

[fallen zephyr]

What happened to the Save option? It doesn't do anything these days.

[merry sun]

If lost connection or a blackout is the case the only save that can actually SAVE is leaving the game and wait for the steam cloud

Sleeping seems to work too

[fallen zephyr]

I'm talking about the Save option in the menu

[paper venture]

How can i find tuna fish? i dont see him swimming in surface of deep ocean

[azure yacht]

Only bad things about them is the accuracy sometimes failing and projectiles should be much faster so they're much effective.

Other than that, they do the job well enough. You are still meant to fight off attacks on your end, making the perfect defense solutions just for you to always feel safe isn't their plan clearly, raids are the proof that you are not meant to feel safe all the time.

Especially when afk is involved

[fallen zephyr]

Tuna is Valheim's closest thing to a 'drive by'. I've not had any real issue catching them, but they do tend to just blast through the area of your cast at speed.

[fossil delta]

I haven't even seen a Tuna this play through. Seen all the rest, though, aside from Ashlands and The North.

[paper venture]

I even see the other fish swimming on the surface, but I've never seen any tuna, just cast the bait and wait then?

[fossil delta]

I've been wondering if new worlds don't even generate Tuna.

[paper venture]

I got one now, it just came out of nowhere hahahah

[fossil delta]

Your world a new one? IE after Ashlands?

[fallen zephyr]

The lvl 5 tuna that's hanging on my wall was a product of me plucking it from the beach on which it decided to have a little nap.

[fossil delta]

Lvl 5's have been extremely rare. I have yet to even catch a lvl 4, but my skill is still low, and I have not been eating the best Stamina foods.

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, you don't catch a lvl 5. You wait until the weather dumps it on a rock and pick it up before it wriggles back into the water.

[gray sand]

The only thing I fish are anglers 🤷‍♂️

[wraith sun]

you can catch level 5's with low fishing skill

[fallen zephyr]

Thanks for believing in me.

[paper venture]

I'm trying to catch them all to get the fishing hat, I want to collect everything in the gam

[fallen zephyr]

Are you focussed more on obtuse or acute anglers?

[paper venture]

I'm that kind of gamer addicted to hodgepodge

[gray sand]

Whichever one makes the food. I am not picky.

[sly oyster]

Seeking abominations

Please stop hiding

[wild lion]

New player here, just entered the black forest. Been watching some streams and I am noticing that no one uses 2H weapons. Are they just horrible imbalanced compared to 1H/Shield or Bows?

[merry sun]

Atgeir is one of the best weapons for progression in game

Bronze and Iron Atgeir saved me many times. But i understand why people preffer maces and swords instead of it.

Pierce is a type of Damage with many mobs that resist to it

[merry sun]

I would give It a try anyway.

[plain talon]

hey i got a early team in the black forest dm if u wanna join

[nocturne crater]

can anyone give me eikthyr trophy please? just need 1 for my church

[agile island]

How many potions should I make before going to the mountains, need to make the cape first

[silk arrow]

Is there a way to upgrade black forge to level 6 yet? or is 5 the max for ashlands?

[ornate sigil]

If you are playing solo,just use devcommands/developer console. Or fight it again since it is the easiest boss.

[ornate sigil]

That depends on your luck on finding wolves and getting a trophy. I typically make 10 and make 5 more once I run out if I haven't found one by time the 10 run out.

(I think it's 5 per fermenter)

[thorn wren]

Frost resistance? Brew it twice for the 12 and you'll likely be set

[oak walrus]

i believe level 5 is the highest, if not, im missing something big time

[frail wagon]

is that ashlands nerf almost out?

[bleak venture]

anyone know of a mod that allows building in caves

[livid widget]

I hope so

[fossil delta]

5 is currently the highest. Most biomes you are 1 below the eventual max for the sets your making. (Bronze was lvl 3 until swamps, etc...)

[livid widget]

Paused until they release it.

[fossil delta]

What nerf?

[frail wagon]

making the biome less agrivating and annoying

[livid widget]

They have reduced spawn rates and eliminated the leviathan drop on nodes. Currently on PTR

Was hoping basalt bomb timer increase, but didn't see anything about that.

[fossil delta]

Oh, yeah. Thats been the case ever since the initial 5 were released. 😄 Part of why we did a new world/play through. Hopefully, by the time we get to the Ashlands, they will have it all balanced out.

[livid widget]

It's awful. I totally get the complaints now.

You can't get anything done cause it's an endless stream of combat

[frail wagon]

i LOOOVE fighting 7 warriors that respawn faster then i can kill them

[fossil delta]

Blame Grimmcore. He wanted the feeling of being at war.

[livid widget]

I think the pack sizes would be okay if they had significantly less hp with some time in between respawns. But as it stands, it's just endless and frustrating. CR is a nightmare, even when portal is like 100 yards away. CR in lava is even worse.

[frail wagon]

id be fine with fighting so many

[frail wagon]

IF THEY WERENT SO GOD DAMN TANKY!

[fossil delta]

Understandable. Now I think I am glad we are having so much trouble finding dungeons and black cores and seal breaker pieces. Sounds like they need the time to adjust things.

[livid widget]

I spent an hour last night running the gauntlet trying to get my body in lava. If you can manage to reach the edge of hell, then it's a game of trying to get basalt down before the angry mob reaches you, dodging fireballs, etc. It's too much.

[frail wagon]

ts is actually hell

[livid widget]

I've lost 8 sword levels in about 10 hours spent in that hell hole

[frail wagon]

i cant fucking use my blood magic because staff of protection takes like 2 seconds to cast time i DO NOt have

[merry pebble]

they are really not tho

[livid widget]

And what irks me most is, in several hours last night, we got like 45 ore lol. One weapon costs like 20 bars

[frail wagon]

like 3-4 fireballs with a level 2 ember staff

[pulsar mortar]

Also high spawn rate gives every 4-5 minutes a 1 or 2 star enemy.

[livid widget]

yes

[frail wagon]

i hold firm in my opinion 2 star mobs SHOULD NOT apper unless you beat that biomes boss/ reach a certin goal

[frail wagon]

because there is nothing more unfun then getting one tapped by a 2 star anything because you JUST came into the new biome and your armor/food isnt up to par

[fossil delta]

Everything is tanky when you first go into a biome. Mistlands was similarly crazy the first month or two after release. Its much easier now. That or I have just become that much better at fighting.

[livid widget]

They can be killed

[frail wagon]

they made mistlands more easy p sure

[livid widget]

It's just when you have 20 other things at the same time it gets overwhelming

[frail wagon]

1 miss step and its over

not to mention with my level 3 froststaff i still need like a solid 15-18 seconds of beaming to kill ONE 2 star charred warrior

[pulsar mortar]

Maybe at night and on certain situations

[fossil delta]

I have yet to see a 2 star gjall, solider, or seeker outside of a dungeon yet. I have been running around a LOT at night. Back when it was first released? Practically guaranteed to run into at least 1 of them as a 2 star.

[frail wagon]

i was lucky enough to never encounter a 1 or 2 star gjall in my time in the mistlands

[fossil delta]

I ran into a 2 star on a group server. I was the only one not insta killed, because I jumped. 😄

[pulsar mortar]

I did and was a weird kiting moment

[frail wagon]

i dislike mistlands.
its not a great biome

but god damn atleast the gear is cool

[fossil delta]

I dislike it until we get the feathered cloak, then I love it.

[frail wagon]

AND ATLEAST THERE WASNT 18 ENEMY'S EVERYWHERE!

[pulsar mortar]

It grew on me, still I dislike mist

[pulsar mortar]

More like 50

[frail wagon]

i still think once you kill the queen the mist should thin up

[livid widget]

I feel like i"ve seen a 2 star seeker outside, but mostly in mines

[frail wagon]

not be gone but be less thick

[fossil delta]

I like it better once I figured out how to find clear areas in the Mistlands. Which is by design, btw. The map shows you.

[pulsar mortar]

Great idea

[livid widget]

How do you tell?

[fossil delta]

Solid black areas on the map are clear.

[frail wagon]

the main thing i dislike about the mistlands grind is uh

[livid widget]

I just thought it was a glitched area lol

[clear comet]

personally ashlands is fun, but the amount of times where my health reached single digits is too close for comfort for me

[frail wagon]

oh my god refined etir is so annoying to get

[oak walrus]

i fell like the ashlands are way easier than a month ago, it feels like the enemies are easier and that there are less of em

[fossil delta]

Thats about the usual time line for their toning down the lethality.

[frail wagon]

just to be sure none of the ashlands staff's take refined etir... Right?

[fossil delta]

Unfortunately, they do love hearing our lamentations.

[frail wagon]

Papa i dont wanna go skull hunting no more

[oak walrus]

a lil bonk with the berserkir axes calms them down

[livid widget]

I will say the 2 star charred warriors look cool af

All sparkly and shit. LIke a walking death disco

[frail wagon]

me and my brother had to cheat alil to actually get to the ashlands

he got onetapped by a 2 star and i didnt bring enough wood for the workbench so i could get my port down 💀

[clear comet]

you can get soft tissue from caves in ashlands

[livid widget]

oops

We did that once too. Chopping trees is a great way to bring hell down on yourself

[frail wagon]

There would not happen to be any uh... FIRE TROLLS in them caves?

[clear comet]

no but there is morgen

[livid widget]

I swear you chop or pick something you get everything in a 500 yard raidus

[clear comet]

and there's a chance for one star to appear, it happened to me

[frail wagon]

its like getting troll ambushed in the blackforest all over again

[livid widget]

Morgens.

[frail wagon]

and uh.. how hard are morgens?

[gray sand]

Need me some 2-star Morgen.
Trying to farm sinews.

[livid widget]

Ashland troll equivalent

[clear comet]

at 100 armor, with bonemass

[livid widget]

THey aren't that hard. Similar to a tree in swamp. It's them plus 50 other things that makes it miserable.

[clear comet]

they hit me at around 46 health

that's the one star, the normal one is around 31

[frail wagon]

meh my brother is running full carapace so if we both have bonemass and i spam protection should be fine

[livid widget]

Oh and also, the sheer destruction the mobs leave in their wake is a difficulty setting on it's own. I had at least 3 deaths where I was desparately trying to loot while dodging the zerg and couldn't cause I picked up so much trash along my run

[frail wagon]

granted it is level 1 carapace so idk

[sharp bluff]

just like trolls, golems and abominations: if its only one without ads its easy

[clear comet]

turn off auto pickup

[frail wagon]

yeah remember to disable auto pickups for your runbacks

[livid widget]

I debated disabling it, but still unsure.

[frail wagon]

and try to avoid having 300+ weight if you can

[livid widget]

It's convenient, until it's not

but yeah I guess for running I need to disable it for that at least

[frail wagon]

also getting my skelton trophys SUCKED man

it took me so long to find a good burial chamber

[livid widget]

you get a bonemaw trophy yet? coolest in the game imo

[frail wagon]

i got like a pile of 350-400 bones behind my oven

[frail wagon]

i have yet to see anything but
all 3/4 charred
Vultures
and askvin

[livid widget]

the bonemaws are in the water. Surprised they haven't attacked your boat

[frail wagon]

getting around those rocks was driving my brother mad 😆

[thorn wren]

That's the one big complaint I have, those spires in the water are just obnoxious

[frail wagon]

yeah. not to mention they dont make that much sense

[thorn wren]

Seems frequent they are close enough together that they form a wall for your huge boat

[frail wagon]

it dosent help that the ashlands boat is the size of like 3 longships taped together

[thorn wren]

And you just get trapped.
Literally better to just break the boat, put a workbench on a spare, and replace the boat on the other side.
Much safer too
Silly

[frail wagon]

heres to hoping you can use the longship for DN when that gets finished

[fossil delta]

Do all the components float?

[thorn wren]

It's a cool boat, I like it, but the spires definitely suck.
Also its annoying how easy it is to dmg your boat. Most weapon swings hit it often and do full dmg.
The player should probably do partial dmg.

[fast badge]

Iron nails don't.

[thorn wren]

I don't even know, I stand right in the center when hitting it and everything is picked up instantly.

[frail wagon]

its also the only boat that can SAFELY transport boar wolfs lox and askvin off and on islands

[livid widget]

I didn't find the spires to be that bad. We had enough room to maneuver

Maybe different on other seeds?

[fossil delta]

Probably varies. RNG and all that.

[thorn wren]

I've definitely ran into 3 or 4 of the like C shapes of LOLYOUSHALLNOTPASS
2 Ashlands playthroughs

[frail wagon]

yeah gotta hope for good pillar rng

[livid widget]

We ran into a couple trying to talk to Hugin tho as he kept appearing on them

Finally we just said f it and continued until we found land

[frail wagon]

there was a guy that played valhiem in reverse

[livid widget]

was it some random guy?

[frail wagon]

that challenge is 100% impossible now

[frail wagon]

nah

[fossil delta]

My only challenge is to never die. I've made it to the Queen, twice, before dying. So I think its still within the realm of possibility.

[livid widget]

The necks killed me in the first 2 minutes of gameplay.

[frail wagon]

i sure do hope you have a blackmetel atiger for the vomit

[fossil delta]

Especially since I do it without parrying or rolling. If I used those, I think I have a very good chance.

[fossil delta]

Demolisher.

[frail wagon]

that also works'

i played mage so i wasnt worried about the vomit spawn

[fossil delta]

I still focus on melee, but I do make and play around with the magic.

[frail wagon]

gl

magic staff grind is really rough

[fossil delta]

We have only found 9 cores and 4 pieces. So still grinding anyways.

[frail wagon]

meh

what i did was just swap between black forge and gaulder table for awhile until i had enough cores for all 3

[fossil delta]

Thats what we have been doing. Only thing off the magic table we have made is the cloak. We will worry about magic once we have 15 cores.

[frail wagon]

i didnt even upgrade my magic 'armor'

[fossil delta]

At least we have a Queen location, so its mostly about meeting the numbers.

[frail wagon]

too much linen thread and etir for each upgrade

[fossil delta]

Oh, thats right. Guess I better start growing a lot of flax again.

[frail wagon]

i have like 108 thread

[fossil delta]

I think we still have over 200 linen.

5 stacks of flax.

So plenty to grow a lot, fast.

[frail wagon]

i found 7 plants of magecaps was enough to sustain my cooked mushroom and seeker aspic production

[fossil delta]

We have hundreds of each. Almost a full black metal chest of Jotunns.

[frail wagon]

i also have alot of chickens

i turns about... 78 carrots into seeds

[frail wagon]

its very easy to say i have . alot of eggs

[fossil delta]

We have over 8 stacks of chickens, 15 stacks of eggs. So not feeling any "need" right now.

Even have over 5 stacks of lox, for that platter.

[frail wagon]

you got plently of blood clots seeker meat and turnips right?

[fossil delta]

We did not tame any this play through. So purely hunting lox this time.

[final bloom]

bro's stocking food for the winter

[fossil delta]

Yeah, over 2 stacks of clots, and something like 5 stacks of seeker.

[frail wagon]

Real
bro is preparing for a crash

[frail wagon]

Nice

id advise just mass producing
seeker aspic and stuffed mushrooms

[fossil delta]

We like to go long periods of time without having to worry about food. So we only plant and/or hunt every few real life days. Then we gather a lot of it. Things like Seeker just throw themselves at us, so those are easy.

[frail wagon]

i view yggdrasil porrage as a waste of barly and sap

[fossil delta]

I didn't even know that was a food.

[frail wagon]

its like 3 sap 2 barly and smth else

[fossil delta]

For mages, I presume?

[frail wagon]

mhm

seekr aspic is very easy to make
royal jelly
seeker meat
mage caps
and it makes in 2's!

[fossil delta]

Hopefully I will like the magic better. I did all my previous playing early after the Mistlands release. Did public test, then the public release for about a month. Then took the 15 month break.

I did not like the magic for combat.

[frail wagon]

magic kinda suffers in lower player groups

its def more supportish
especially in mist lands

[paper venture]

Magma fish dont bait, just for me?

[fossil delta]

Most of my first play through was with a group. Magic was pretty devastating with 2 or more of us throwing it around.

[frail wagon]

after all 2 of your 4 staffs in mist lands are more support focused

[fossil delta]

You sure you have the correct bait?

[paper venture]

Yep, correct bait, check but dont bite

[fossil delta]

Yeah, only times I run into that is with the wrong baits. Maybe do a restart and try again?

I mean a full system restart to clear the cache, etc....

[fair cairn]

Wasnt there a bug for magma fishing?

[merry pebble]

yeah, tho in ptb it should be fixed

[livid widget]

Do the devs actually read this?

Are suggestions actually read and considered?

[shy marlin]

? bro what

[sly oyster]

Speaking of fishing, any way to make it not ass? Does the leaving the lure 2 feet away from you still work?

[tight yacht]

Is there a console way to regenerate an area of the map you've cut trees in? Or to regenerate specific trees you've cut?

[gray sand]

Higher skill + stamina foods.

[tight yacht]

Also same question for regenerating nodes that have been damaged and split into multiple chunks (like stone pillar)

[ornate sigil]

Not like a "revert to previous state" kinda command, but you could spawn in trees, rocks and ore deposits. It would still look like someone was there because there isn't a good way (that I know of) to restore the earth that was mined away.

[tight yacht]

I'm not modifying the terrain, and I've reset my world to a previous save before it happened, but apparently at some point something (probably a lox stomp) hit the stone pillar I'd like to build on and both destroyed a yggdrasil shoot (not that important) and also did pickaxe damage to the pillar itself and triggered the fracture mechanic (more concerning)

I'd like to recover from that if it's possible without rolling the whole save back

[paper venture]

Oh magma fish is bugged

[ornate sigil]

Then ya, just figure out that the devcommand name for that rock is and spawn it in and it should be good as new.

[paper venture]

Someone know any trick to catch without fishing?

[azure yacht]

Yes

[azure yacht]

And implemented when able to

[fossil delta]

You can also make storm traps. They can capture a lot in a well populated spot.

[paper venture]

Storm trap?

[fossil delta]

Yes, such as roof tiles in a U shape.

[livid widget]

How deep should those be? Seem hard to build in deeper water

should the roof be submerged, or above the water line?

Friend built one and it didn't seem to work.

[fossil delta]

As deeply as you can when its calm. Storms do the rest.

Do 3 to 4 long, block the ends.

Do not leave the bench, so they respawn.

[livid widget]

thanks

[drowsy magnet]

your welcome

[supple jasper]

that fire weakness on the feather cape makes me not want to use it in the mistlands

you don't really need it as well, they just killed the small QoL

[nocturne wolf]

Fire resistance mead overrides the weakness

[supple jasper]

does it neutralize it?

[nocturne wolf]

No, you get a 0.5 resistance as if you didn’t have the cape

[azure yacht]

So yeah, it neutralises it...

Also, I always thought it gave very resistant to fire.

Now I know why yagluth's attacks still hit hard despite it

[nocturne wolf]

It’s not just a small qol anymore, it increases jump height and reduces jump stamina so it’s incredibly useful in combat.

[supple jasper]

oh, interesting, thank you

[tight yacht]

How do I do that?

Does this respawn the rock where it was or are you saying to basically try to place a similar one in a similar location via dev commands

[ornate sigil]

similar rock in a similar location. wont be exact but it will be close

[livid widget]

It's worth it. Just use fire pots on the helljelly's

[amber fern]

Does Tin respawn I forget?

[livid widget]

No

[amber fern]

Thanks

[ornate sigil]

the item ID you will likely need is:|| HeathRockPillar|| . just use the spwan devcommand and that code for a large plains pillar of rock. There are likely others, but that was the first to look correct of everything listed as "rock" on this list: https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Item_IDs#Other

[fossil delta]

Nice! I thought it felt much closer to flying this play through!

[regal mural]

I asked in mod help
But anyone knows how to fix lights and shaddow in game ?
I always adjust my monitor backlight and brightness to be able to see. I cant us torches as they make the game unplayable

[nocturne wolf]

There is no in-game brightness option (so mods help was the right place to ask), but how do torches make the game unplayable?

[regal mural]

Its just the brigthness and contrast.
Because the torch is place poorly.
Normally when people use torch they hold it BEHIND their head as to not have the light in the eyes. This game does not consider that and hold the torch in thge middle of the screen making it super bright and the rest just looks dark.
Its so distracting.
$4 playthrough I dont use the torches.
Anyway running at night and only seeing dark and shadows is actually much more fun.
Also fire anywhere makes smokke,mist, cloud, like like absolute trash.
It does not look good nor give a realistic sense to it ( maybe for some young folks)

But the torch is a NO GO for me.
I even avoid doing all sort of torches in my base, dvergre lamps dont tirgger much of it

[vocal rivet]

' ( maybe for some young folks)' - I don't get this bit.

[merry pebble]

I mean... In 3rd person wiew there is not many places other than middle of screen for stuff your character holds

[regal mural]

Because younger peopel are gullible, or less knowledgable that anything goes.

[nocturne wolf]

So torches are unplayable because they aren’t held realistically?

[regal mural]

That is why it needs to be adjusted.

Another way to fix it.
would be to reduce the brightness of the light itself to us, but not the light on object around it litghs up

Like imagine i have a lightbulb in my house, it lights everything up but the bulb to me is not visible (

I get in a game its not easay to do so, so that is what devs need to do to overcome the reality/game wall

[fluid mountain]

I need friends to play with, but I'm from Brazil and my friends who lives here doesn't play with me 😦

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[vocal rivet]

That's a heap of a generalisation. I'm also not sure how being gullible relates to liking the lighting in the game. (for reference I'm 45 and love the atmospheric lighting)

[tepid prawn]

Fully agree with this, massive generalisation that is not based on facts. I also love the lighting and am also not a young person

[livid widget]

I think I used a torch like twice

It was too bright and unrealistic so I stopped using it

[ebon vault]

i dont use torches but i understand why you would

[gray sand]

As opposed to the standard, IRL amazing experience of holding open flame immediately next to your face?

[livid widget]

They actually made decent weapons in black forest

[muted rain]

can VR play with flatscreen?

[fossil delta]

You need a VR head set.

[muted rain]

in the newest update? I am looking for a group and I only got one response from a non-VR group so far.

[muted rain]

No, sorry. can VR players play with flatscreen players

[livid widget]

Isn't there crossplay?

[muted rain]

I heard from someone else that the VR players look weird to the flatscreen players?

[fossil delta]

I have no idea.

[livid widget]

I didn't even know you can play it in vr!

[fossil delta]

Yeah, there is a VR version of Valheim.

[livid widget]

holy shit imagine how annoying torches are in VR

[ebon vault]

that would be realistic

[livid widget]

Being serious now though, wouldn't that be easy to test by just trying to join a buddy in VR mode?

[fossil delta]

That would be the ideal thing to do to find out. If this were the weekend I could ask my son to use his VR set with me.

[azure yacht]

VR isn't even officially supported in Valheim and only through mods so the whole thing is more for #mods-discussion

[fossil delta]

Huh, I could have sworn I saw a VR version on Steam, but obviously I was wrong.

[muted rain]

what exactly is your point? I just wanted to know if anyone has played with a friend and if it works because I was invitd to a group and dont want to play alone. If no one has I can test it myself. Flatscreen to vr is a huge moddng community and jsut because it's not listen offically here doesn't make it an invalid way to enjoy the game whether you like it or not.

[fossil delta]

He is just saying the mod channel is the better channel for finding an answer to your question.

[muted rain]

was he? that's not what I read

[fossil delta]

This is what I read, "and only through mods so the whole thing is more for..." So while not saying it how I would, the mod channel would be more likely to get an answer from someone who knows about the VR mods.

[livid widget]

stinks

[small venture]

Just realized the new straw rug will take on the color of most any lighting source below it. Gorgeous pinkish white with a dragon egg below it, etc.

[regal mural]

It is psychology, quiet literally.
There are countless of studies showing that based on age.
Not at all a generalization, I thought people knew this common knowledge ( that is generalization)
So I am sorry you were not aware of that

Human development

[ebon osprey]

hello, so I'm opening valheim today and it looks like a beta version of it

all pinky and with a beta sign on the right corner

What did I do wrong? I haven't played it for about a month

[vocal rivet]

Valheim is still in Early Access right now.

[vocal rivet]

You still haven't related that to lighting in any way.

Yep, that's a mature response. Well done.

[ebon osprey]

yeah, but this is a new screen all pinky

like bugged screen

[vocal rivet]

Do you have any mods running?

[ebon osprey]

I havent used mods ever

not even used PTB version of it

[vocal rivet]

What version number does it say?

[ebon osprey]

I uploaded an image on #steam-bugs-discussion

[vocal rivet]

$menu_mod_notice, well, that's reassuring

[tight yacht]

Guy holds torch too far forward = gullible young people is the hottest take I've seen in awhile lol

[shy marlin]

Valheim discord never fails to be funny as hell

[tight yacht]

Dude is probably ranked #7 in the world for telling people to get off his lawn

[livid widget]

Looks busted to me.

[tight yacht]

Update drivers?

[gray sand]

Torches are hot 😉

Clearly need to hold torch back more.
So you know, it takes up a higher percentage of the limited camera space available. 😁

[livid widget]

The camp fire on the start screen is way too bright also. Very distracting.

[tight yacht]

Sounds like something a gullible youngster would suggest

[livid widget]

I can barely find my cursor and click start

[tight yacht]

In my day we dipped our hands in resin and light ourselves on fire directly

[burnt glen]

I geared up for a big journey to find Hildir.. found her in 15 mins

[gray sand]

You're a Surtling?

[keen mulch]

Best way to level elemental magic naturally? Fracturing or frost, or some other option? Don't want to just spam frost on a stone golem in a hole

[gray sand]

Best way to level anything usually involves spamming on something trapped, unfortunately.

[burnt glen]

trap a stone golem in a pit, then spam frost staff on it, pretty sure it doesn't take any damage

But that may not be the natural course of the game, it's more of grinding for levels.

[clear comet]

unironically that's the best method lol

[fierce granite]

is dundr even worth to craft?

[shy marlin]

define worth it

[fierce granite]

stronger than other staffs

[shy marlin]

then nah not really

[fierce granite]

so why do it exists

[shy marlin]

staff of wilds, frost, trollstav, ember and staff of protection are the good ole go tos for mages now

Well it's a fun weapon that's for sure

[fierce granite]

whats fun in meleeing enemies to do a little damage

[shy marlin]

🤷‍♂️ idk i enjoy it, shotgun thing is cool

[fierce granite]

the shotgun part is cool ngl, but only that

[shy marlin]

and the game isn't hard enough to warrant running the bis stuff all the time so might as well just have fun with what's fun

[sly oyster]

cant find an abom or wraith to save my life but i just found two levi 50 feet from each other

[gray sand]

If the game was hard, you'd just have optimizers only ever using bows and shooting everything from a mile away.

I was kind of disappointed that the Ripper doesn't shoot through enemies though.

[azure yacht]

Following that logic, they should literally remove every single staff in the game and only leave ember

[gilded fjord]

i think if they could atleast leave the dundr loaded itd make it much better

like you could use it as a combo weapon or a quick sidearm

but needing to reload everytime you have it on is a bit euh

[fluid cove]

fellas my plains area is barren af

and i made a big damn base in it, complete with a 4m wide 10m deep moat too

explored around and found that this plains area is surrounded by a black forest and mistlands biome

[gray sand]

You can't dig 10m down though?

[fluid cove]

but it only got 3 fuling villages, found 1 fuling totem, and one Lox herd, a few Tar Pits, and nothing else

[fluid cove]

no idea how deep it is exactly but its pretty deep

[gray sand]

+/-7 is the terrain limit unless Ashlands changed something.

[fluid cove]

no idea i'll post a screenshot later, because the base was built on a slope, the depth of the northern side is deeper than the southern side i think

the moat floor is uneven as well

[meager sluice]

helloo

anyone want to play?

im new

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

Hello new, I'm Sevrahn.

[fluid cove]

so far my Plains progress is limited to farming a whole bunch of Barleys and Flax, and the occassional Fuling raid for Black Metal

oh there's also a swamp nearby, which got two Surtling spawners so i made a coal/core farm out of them

[eternal sigil]

yo whats the best biome to base in?

[shy marlin]

Doesn't really matter, which one you like the most tbh

Lots of people like plains bordering mistlands for ease of farming but you can always just build outposts in each biome for whatever biome specific needs there are.

[eternal sigil]

yeaah i will likely end up having outposts too, but rn im still relatively early game; so im looking to figure out where to put my main one

currently based out of an old ruin in a black forest

[gray sand]

Plains.

[gilded fjord]

my base is in risen coastal island in the black forest

its neara greydwarf spawner too so its quite fun seeing the raids and the local population fight each other

still have a lot of FOBs though, like atleast 1 per biome, i have a really large farm lands in plains and mistland

[tepid prawn]

Any that you like. Big plains farm and small mistlands farm will be needed either way, having lots of iron nearby also helps for every biome. Mountains does not get certain raids, but does get annoying drakes flying into your base. Meadows also does not get some raids that other biomes do. Plains near a swamp is always good if that swamp has many many crypts. BUT you can make anything work, I currently am doing a playthrough with a base in each biome, very fun. Mistlands and Ashlands the bases have a higher chance of suffering some damage unless you have knowledge and skill to properly defend them, earlier biomes a base is a bit easier to defend really.

[foggy ocean]

i found a really nice base location in my co op world with a tiny mistlands next to a small plains. built the base in the plains, plenty of space for farming there, then mistlands is a tiny walk away and it has at least 3 roots so far and room for planting magecap and jotun puffs. then a swamp is across the water, mountain next to the plains, black forest across a small river, and giant mistlands all around

by far my favorite base location yet

[tepid pike]

sounds like a great spot 🙂

[still patio]

Hey im not sure where to ask this but are there any mods that add boss fight music? The fights are really boring without some type of sound

[tepid prawn]

there should be boss music already there

[still patio]

Hmm I dont have any

No one I was playing with had it

[tepid prawn]

could be a bug maybe

some of the boss music is extremely good too

I'd check settings but I m not home at my PC if there also could be an option where its disabled, not sure

[gentle spade]

anyone from oce

[austere belfry]

is it a bad idea to load up a cart with 3,000 weight

[foggy ocean]

Youll have issues pulling it up slants but its doable

I usually have a hoe and pick for when i need to wheel a heavy cart

[gilded fjord]

kind of, i tend to keepit atleast 1000 weight unit

i had to transport like 4k once in a single cart

it was miserable

[worthy turtle]

whats the best way to farm mushrooms? do they like respawn in the same spot or do u just have to explore more

[gray sand]

They do come back in the same spot.

[fair cairn]

same way thistles are "farmed" but a bit harder cause they dont glow unless theya re the yellow ones

[austere belfry]

it certainly was miserable but i made it lol

[tepid prawn]

I am from oceania

[gilded fjord]

goddamn congratulations

if its far enough id prefer to just deliver it to the nearest beach and bring it home with a ship

[safe flower]

Last night our group made our first go at Ashlands, and yea it didn’t go well. We didn’t even get to land, are we doing something wrong? Like we sailed down and couple of birds attacking us, no big deal, but the ship was getting destroyed and we ended up in the water and we melted

[clear comet]

Honestly half of good landings in Ashland is due to luck

Also, you should deffo keep spare wood so you can build a workbench on the stone spires and repair your ship periodically until you make land

[fervent bolt]

Sooo.... is there any updated roadmap somewhere out there? It would be nice to see what's the devs are thinking about in the coming years.

[gray sand]

No.

[fervent bolt]

Well fuck! :p

[gray sand]

They are very open in their developer blogs with what they are currently doing.

[clear comet]

@fervent bolt expect a year and half until DN drops

Mistland took a year, Ashland a year and a half

[gray sand]

And then expect Deep North to invoke people crying for nerfs immediately after it releases 😁

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[clear comet]

I am actually sad for Ashland nerf because it was even more unfair b4

The spawn is almost twice in PTB

[gray sand]

I think if the goal was actual war-feeling, having a high spawn rate with most enemies being easily dealt with would have been my personal first iteration 🤷‍♂️
You've killed a dragon, an undead god, and whatever you want to class Queen as at this point.

Cutting through swathes of charred just seems to correctly fit your contextual power level.

Beef up the Morgen by a smidge, and have it so there's like a guaranteed 2 star charred for every x number of normals so that you get a real feel for "foot soldiers are easy, but there are also accomplished vets on the field you will need to approach carefully"

[frozen tiger]

I expect complaints about ashlands boss, when reddit folks will finally reach it. Something about too much aoe

[gray sand]

Given you can kill him with green balls... 🤷‍♂️

Or even fish...

[gilded fjord]

WITH WHAT
oh uranium

[gray sand]

Eityrium*

[waxen sinew]

guys quick question, will elder altar sink if i dug everything below it

[clear comet]

No

[waxen sinew]

it will float?

[clear comet]

Yes

[waxen sinew]

thank you, time to dig

[hollow crag]

Anyone got any tips on how to cctch angler fish? i got the misty bait and i cant catch anything

its my first time fishing btw

[clear comet]

They're more likely to spawn on an open sea side than a "lake" side

[hollow crag]

I see them in the water

I just cant catch them 😭

[molten axle]

If you’re trying to catch them the legit fishing way of reeling them in and having no luck you might want to try the lazy way instead-
Find a spot with flat-ish ground and a good ramp down into the water, don’t cast beyond 10 metres, and then when you hook one just sprint away from the shore and stop a bunch of times until you manually drag them in lol

That’s how I fished through my entire playthroughs and never had a problem

[hollow crag]

Mistland waters are deep tho

[neon hinge]

Is there a go-to mod compilation or something to spice up vanilla?

[molten axle]

Mistlands have the most shores of any biome lol run around til you find a better spot

[hollow crag]

ok

[clear comet]

huh I found a funny bug

[merry pebble]

do tell 😄

[wraith sun]

Seekers??

[clear comet]

mostly cape ends up backwards after you secondary attack using a double handed sword

[merry pebble]

oh, that one 😄

it does that sometimes

[merry sun]

Btw the Ashlands nerf doesnt seem to affect that much the difficult

but i totally agree

[gray sand]

The reduction in spawn rate that isn't needed doesn't affect enemy health?

Yeah, that tracks.

[merry sun]

I think i died most times when i was cornered than anything. in open spaces it is easy to deal with hordes

I argued a lot with people complaining about ashlands difficult, saying that is made to be this way (calling me troll many times), but ta-da ashlands nerf then i dont got game purpose cover

[gray sand]

Ok holy crap

Just crafted the Berserker Axes

These are SO MUCH FUN

[austere belfry]

just checking, how long should the elder take to kill? I didn't have trouble with him it just seemed take a bit of time to whittle away

[merry pebble]

idk, like 5 minutes? 10? a bit longer if you go at him only with fire arrows

[opal prairie]

@molten axle
You can make your own shore.
Take some wood with you and put 26° roof pieces at the waters edge, now flip them so you go back up, flip again and keep going till you think you have enough if you reached that point go as deep as you can with 45° roof pieces.
Now cast from the edge and drag them closer once they are on the roof stand close and reel in, if you "lost your catch" comes up you can still pick up the fish but with reeling in you will advance fishing and have the chance for extra's if reeling in does work.
You could also take stone with you and heighten terrain and get the same thing going.

[austere belfry]

okay cool, thanks

[gray sand]

What weapon are you using?

[merry pebble]

if its your first time going for him it could take longer, but its shouldnt be too hard 🙂

[austere belfry]

was my first time, made good time on it based on what you said. Just wasn't sure if that was normal or not lol

he took less than 5 minutes for me but it felt longerI gues cuz the damage I was doing was in tiny pieces

used a lv4 finebow and 75 fire arrows

[gray sand]

This is why it took so long.

[merry pebble]

great then 😄 i dont really measure bosses in how long they take but more how much pain in da butt they are 😄

[gray sand]

Upgraded Wooden Club in melee should take only like 2 minutes tops to down him.

[hollow crag]

I see

[austere belfry]

axe doesnt do more than a club on him?

[merry pebble]

nope

his only weakness is fire, he is neutral to all 3 physical dmg types

[gray sand]

Even if it did. You pretty much rock clubs/maces only through the first 4 biomes.

[opal prairie]

Knives!

[broken kestrel]

Haven't had any spoilers for ashlands but the crew and I pulled up yesterday for the first time in ashlands. What an epic experience. Spent 3 hours just fighting trying to get a foothold on a shore line lol

[gray sand]

Go knife Bonemass, I'll wait 😛

[merry pebble]

you dont have too, but they are probably the most usefull type of weapon in those 🙂

[opal prairie]

Doable, ti would take pretty long though.
Maybe only for that boss I'd go mace, I'd be rocking knives for the rest though ^^

[gray sand]

I am an Axe man.
Saves an entire inventory slot.

[merry pebble]

thats also true 🙂

[austere belfry]

just worried about troll raids nowlol

[gray sand]

Jotun Bane sucking made Mistlands rough though...

But as I mentioned, I just got the Ashlands Duo Axes and holy mama, I am in love.

[opal prairie]

My buddy is the same, though in mistlands he switched to mistwalker.

[gray sand]

Himmminiminmminim Afl for the win.

[merry pebble]

mistwalker carries even in ashlands 😄

[opal prairie]

I'll be trying that out myself since there are no knives in ashlands.
I'll probably go full mage but I want to test out the zerker axes at one point.

[gray sand]

They are the first thing that truly feels like an attack speed build.

[opal prairie]

Tried skoll and hati?

[hollow crag]

I rock bow from meadows to ashlands bow is goated

[gray sand]

I am a Viking.
We do not deal with puny knives.
❤️

[austere belfry]

lol i just figured he migh be weak to axes cuz hes a giant tree man

[merry pebble]

also my thought when first going for him 😄

[opal prairie]

This viking didn't until this playthrough and I must say it fits my playstyle better.
Move in do some damage move out, the lunge attack can do so much damage if the mob is staggered or you can surprise them.
Oneshotted a seeker soldier a few days ago.

[hollow crag]

Lmao i just killed one of those with my fire arrows

[opal prairie]

Shot them in the ass to make it go quicker I hope?
Took a while, no?

[hollow crag]

I had high grounds and yea i aim the weakspot which dealt like 100 damage per shot i killed it relatively quick

I had like 82 or 83 bow skill (fking died to fall damage cuz i wanted to save my staminda food and now im back to 78 😭

[opal prairie]

I do like the fact that the fire arrow lights them up and they are easily "visible" in the mist.
Previous playtrough was bow all the way and I had a stack of fire arrows and a stack of needles and switched between them.
Fire arrow to start and light them up, few needles after and a fire again.

[gray sand]

Slingshot when? 😛

[hollow crag]

Sigh i now have to go back to skill training

[gray sand]

Which skill?

[hearty echo]

Does anyone know if we’ll be able to use dvergr spells in the future

[gray sand]

Probably not? Given we are not dverger?

Like, we can't use the Greydwarf Shaman spells either.

[gray sand]

Which skill?

[ornate sigil]

In mistlands, there are staves to do magic with. There are also element infused weapons (like frostheim) when you get to ashlands...unless that isn't what you are talking about.

[hollow crag]

Bow skill

[gray sand]

Ah, Bonemass will gladly help you level it. 😄

[ornate sigil]

Off to the plains with crude bow and wood arrows to needle a lox in a hole, then.

[hearty echo]

I know of the staves, but the dvergr use magic differently than us. For instance there’s the healing staff that they have, and their fire and ice magics are different too

[ornate sigil]

Ah. Then likely the answer will be "no, not without mods".

[hearty echo]

NOO!

[ornate sigil]

Ya, wish we had more than just healing meads, especially after the "news" channel art of one medic looking viking patching up another in a group of 3.

[fluid cove]

saw that post in the meme channel where a guy have a scrooge mcduck amount of 999 gold piles

we should have the ability to melt down 999 gold into a gold ingot to let us build stuff coated in gold for zero taste maxxing gameplay

[misty sun]

Gold Flake Black Soup sounds posh.

[opal prairie]

Hey kikijiki, been a while.
How are your mirrors doing?

[fluid cove]

why does Haldor/Hildir need money to begin with

[misty sun]

still operating in a parallel dimension

[fluid cove]

are they like God of War's Dwarves where they can hop between dimensions effortlessly lol

[hearty echo]

Wouldn’t doubt it

[opal prairie]

Why do trolls have money?

[vocal rivet]

They don't. They have gold. It's shiny like the rubies and amber they also hoard. It's only us that attributes any other value to it.

[misty sun]

trolls are anti fiat currency.

[opal prairie]

They wanna break the bank?

[misty sun]

I'm not aware of lore surrounding their stance on central banking per se, but sound economic practices were learned managing a variety of structures which permitted the passing of geological impasses.

Though Valheim trolls do stuff their mattresses with items of potential value, so maybe untrusting of fractional reserve lending?

[gray sand]

Debating Storm Fang vs. Root Fang. Hmmmmm...

[opal prairie]

Which one are you leaning to and why?

[gray sand]

I went with Root because ranged weapon having change to keep enemy at range just makes sense.

Used my Iolite to build and upgrade Thundering Axes.

Ask armor + Ashen cape + Axes is just...

-30% Attack Cost with that level of Attack Speed has me ripping through enemies like nobody's business.

Further I get into Ashlands the more I don't understand the problem people have with it.

It's the same as every other biome. Initial impact sucks dick, but once you get biome-level gear you are at parity with everything you're fighting and really have to care only about starred enemies.

[austere belfry]

a troll raid attacked my swamp base. But they werent prepared for the leeches poisoning them or the draugrs slaughtering them. All I had to d was run around collecting the loot lol

[gray sand]

Nice!

[frosty cypress]

I find it almost unbearably absurd that battering ram doesn't damage trees or enemies. I think zero logic is used making decisions sometimes

[keen spoke]

someone to mine some flametals?

[azure yacht]

Just like the characters being able to have 3000 kg of metals inside their pockets and still move around

I personally can have up to 5000 kg, and they cut that limit almost in half for balance purposes? It's so silly

[ornate sigil]

Games not being 100% realistic? what is this world coming to ?!?😋

[frosty cypress]

There's good reasons for that though. Explain to me why trees are invincible to a huge bashing machine that breaks hardest materials. Enemies I can come to grips with as it would make things too much easier. Invincible trees crazybananapants

[gray sand]

I always forget how hard it is to chop trees down in this game...

[daring geyser]

i always judge survival games by their tree chopping

[frosty cypress]

We've chopped assloads of trees in a play so far. Bashing them would be a fun change

[gray sand]

You think this game is about FUN?!? 😂😂😂😂

[ornate sigil]

Same reason the pickaxe doesn't work on trees. It's not the designated tool for the job and doesn't do the damage type needed to fell a tree even if it isn't the designated tool.

[frosty cypress]

Damn good reason thanks.

[frosty cypress]

I have loads of fun. You doing it wrong

[ornate sigil]

Ie: log troll doesn't have a axe but can do the needed type of damage (chop).

[gray sand]

Your previous statements about unbearable absurdity beg to differ.

[quiet rain]

Just made the troll staff for the first time and boy am I happy I didn’t use it inside my base

[frosty cypress]

Compartmentalized

[unique onyx]

i would imagine the main reason the battering ram doesn't work all over is it would take about 30 seconds to level the entire map. so it kind of sounds like they did think about it

[ornate sigil]

Yes, very much like people making the obliterator inside their base and trying to use it...not a good idea.

[gray sand]

Yagluth vs. Battering Ram too ez.

[azure yacht]

Because having the battering ram be a mining drill and an automatic wood saw would be too op as well.

Isn't the whole purpose that you are meant to be the one who collects resources? If they were to add a machine that does the work for you, then they might as well not add more tools at all.

They should not add a new pickaxe and remove or nerf berserkir axes as well and not add a new axe in DN because, what for? Battering ram would do the job just as well or even better.

[unique onyx]

based on the damage it does to walls i would think no new weapons either haha

[azure yacht]

They could really not add a new pickaxe because battering ram does the same job

[unique onyx]

they'd rename it to batteringheim

[frosty cypress]

We have 50 different armors. A variety of ways to do things isn't a bad thing

Progression

[gray sand]

Variety technically gets deprecated as you can upgrade things only so far. (Which I personally dislike)

[azure yacht]

Having the most efficient way of mining with the battering ram should be enough progression

You can destroy giant rocks in like two minutes

[frosty cypress]

It's great. My mind just refused to believe that it wouldn't break trees. But as somebody said a blunt weapon wouldn't be ideal for a tree, it's true. Probly wouldn't actually work on a big tree irl even. So I recend my statement. I have been proven wrong. And I am big enough to admit it. ( oh God it hurts) lol.

[shy marlin]

[frosty cypress]

Can't tell what that is.

Oh I c

Need glasses but refuse

[weary heron]

Respectfully bro glasses ain't bad, I've had them for 15 years and the only thing that's annoying is finding a comfortable pair of headphones with them, and I guess keeping them clean but that's whatever. Would definitely recommend them if you can't make out what an emote is lol

[shy marlin]

Contacts > glasses

[weary heron]

For me I think my glasses make me look better and I'm just irrationally afraid of contacts

[shy marlin]

Fair, finger near your eye can be spooky

[frosty cypress]

I've got a mod on that let's me portal pets. Portaled into ashlands with one of my several 2star asksvin I bred. Apparently forgot to set to follow so after fighting the stuff around the portal that sob ran off. Hiding in middle of lave field with no hope for recovering him. Poor ol Ugly

[weary heron]

I've considered Lasik too but as I said, my glasses kinda cover the bags under my eyes so they make me look more professional imo lol

[gray sand]

Eye Transplant >>

[weary heron]

When we getting those Kiroshi optics from Cyberpunk

[frosty cypress]

Used to wear. Makes your eyes worse without glassez so just cut my losses. Plus I fell asleep in them constantly and broke em.

[opal prairie]

I've bee nwearing glasses since I was 6 and I've been wearing glasses for +34 years now and have found a nice gaming headset that i can wear for hours upon hours and fit nicely over my glasses.
I can't wear contacts because the shape of my eyes.
Lasik might be a solution but haven't really checked with the eye doctor about it.

[gray sand]

As soon as online people stop having underscores in their names 😉

[weary heron]

I still remember when I was a kid one night I opened my eyes and the wall was just kinda blurry and I freaked out and ran upstairs to tell my Mom I think I need glasses lmao

[gray sand]

I still remember being 23 and learning I had absolute zero depth perception and then trying to figure out what that meant because I thought everyone sees the world the way I do, but apparently there's this whole other dimension you all are aware of 😂

[weary heron]

Working in retail I deal with people everyday that still aren't aware of this other dimension we now reside in

And people that drive around here too

[eternal sigil]

skibidi toilet

[weary heron]

Rizz gyatt

[frosty cypress]

I feel like there's a few pieces missing from aslands build set. No backing filler piece for the small arch and roofs are wierd can't figure out how to do an outer corner. Also theres other piece/s that I can't remember that seemed like they'd be needed

Nice looking pillars though.

[unique onyx]

what method were you using with older pieces to get the corner look you want?

[austere belfry]

parrying ghosts like

[frosty cypress]

Both thatch and the shingles type have corner pieces inside and out of both 45 and 26 degrees. Figured out inside corners with grausen but not outside

And can't figure how the small arch is to be used without a backer piece cept mabey as fence decoration

Gonna check and see if folks posted some example builds in ss

[exotic pawn]

My Host world have 6 players , how many mages, ranges , warriors are good?

[azure yacht]

It barely matters

[exotic pawn]

I mean go to ashland

Yesterday 4 guys went to MIsland, only me survive.

Bomber kill 3 of us.

[azure yacht]

Already did, already almost finished it, only boss is left.

And I play alone

[azure yacht]

Without fire resistance and aoe, yes

[exotic pawn]

You are good player, but I do not think they are

[azure yacht]

You can go two of each, or three range and three mages, or all mages

I'm not

Or three warriors and three mages.

If at least one of those mages had an ember staff, you can break almost everything in the game

One or two more and it's insta win

[exotic pawn]

I am the Great Mage have 4 stuffs of Mistland

one guy is a tank(warrior), one guy is paladin(play everything), one guy is a archer, and one guy is second Mage.

[vocal rivet]

There are no classes in Valheim.

[rain flare]

Technically you make your own classed based on your playstyle

But fancy ones like Paladin aren't really achievable since you would need odin's blessing or some such silly thing to make it fit that description

But rouge, Hunter, mage, barbarian, etc make sense

[exotic pawn]

I like one person to use all weapons and cover all damage types, but I don't know a word to describe this class.

[hidden gorge]

rouge doesn't quite make sense -- you're not trying to powder their cheeks. I could see a rogue class however

[hidden gorge]

gestalt?

[exotic pawn]

Or fullstack player

[frosty cypress]

OK so its not just me. They seemingly just left out very important pieces like outside corner roofs. Yall think they just still getting worked on?

[exotic pawn]

Close, Just one guy can do everything in the game.

YOu can be any class or any job you like to be, no restrict.

[worthy turtle]

anyone know the fastest way to kill a lox?

[exotic pawn]

polearm

[hidden gorge]

I believe it was mentioned there's not necessarily going to be the same version of pieces in every tier -- not every house needs a hipped roof, you can add in some gables for variety

[frosty cypress]

Or am I just waiting on modders to add those necessary pieces like several others in the game

[vocal rivet]

Game not finished either.

[frosty cypress]

Jesus. Some of yallll defend anything. I shouldn't have to be an engineer the figure out how to build with these sets. If it's just not done yet that's fine but that would be rediculous to just not have outside corners.

[hidden gorge]

yes, I know. Valheim has no built in classes -- I assumed you were just making up your own arbitrary class restrictions and were looking for an appropriate name. That is one I've seen for the same thing looong ago for some silly overpowered prestige D&D classes

[exotic pawn]

We play this beta version game for over 3 years .

[vocal rivet]

No, we haven't had a beta since 2021.

[hidden gorge]

I'm not defending anything, I'm just relaying information. You asked the question, I simply answered it. no need to get upset

[azure yacht]

Gaps of everything have always been there, this isn't unexpected

[unique onyx]

also some pieces were added after the fact, maybe they'll add some of the pieces that seem to be missing in a later update

[exotic pawn]

I saw the world tree on the sky, so the tree will be the last map?

I would like to climb it and talk to Odin

[frosty cypress]

I apologize if you aren't one of those. But you know the ones I mean. There's still missing pieces from previous sets that I can't recall that I've added via mods so I expect they just want us players to fix their holes in the road

[vocal rivet]

There's only one map.

[exotic pawn]

I just think there is the last biome on the tree.

and the final Boss should be a Titan.

[azure yacht]

If mods solve the problem, why being upset then? Isn't it a good thing that mods flourish because of this?

Also those extra pieces means more extra work for them and they have an entire game to work on as well...

A mod author just needs to work on those three new pieces and forget about the rest. That one author is only working on that mod alone, devs are working on everything that mod needs to work in the first place

As much as I love mods, this is one aspect I hate about them: That elitism of "devs bad, authors better" it ALWAYS creates.

It's unfair in most cases to the devs, imagine spending months to create something for people to enjoy just for those people to go "your work sucks lol mods made it better"

[frosty cypress]

Speak of the devil and he shall appear. Shouldn't have to have modders fix clearly missing things. Do your own work

[azure yacht]

For them it doesn't need fixing because it's not broken 🤷

I can understand actual bugs and glitches, but content depends on whatever they want for the game, if it's not what they want why would they spend time and resources into developing it?

As I said, gaps have always been there, this is not unexpected

Should developers work on features they dislike just because people asked for them? And then fill their own game with stuff they're not convinced about just to try pleasing the masses?

That seems detrimental

[vocal rivet]

The final biome is Deep North.

[unique onyx]

when i first started playing we only had the 45 degree building pieces if i remember right? they've added a lot. some stuff gets noticed and filled. even some of the building holes that were there before have been fixed a bit

[exotic pawn]

That is sad

[azure yacht]

Considering how tricky those are, probably a lot.

And they still feel glitchy

[exotic pawn]

I think there are 9 Boss match to 9 Titan in Norse story.

[azure yacht]

So it's not just "add a corner piece, it should take you five minutes max"

[unique onyx]

also if it's that easy to do, why not make your own game and call it radheim

[vocal rivet]

Irrelevant.

[azure yacht]

Being a game developer must feel like an ungrateful job half of the time

[vocal rivet]

You'd be wrong. Valheim has its own lore

Only half?

[azure yacht]

Yeah I think I was optimistic lol

[frosty cypress]

Gaps have always been there is a problem. Shouldn't need to problem solve to work around Clearly missing peices. I've messed around for far to long trying to cover up or work around holes in my builds that should not be there. A square corner is nessary in every build I've made so I just don't get to use grayusten without waiting for a modder to fix and updat

[azure yacht]

Especially if the game has an active modding community

[frosty cypress]

And updates often break mods

[azure yacht]

I still don't understand why complaining about it if there's a mod for that.

There are things I dislike about some stats, I used a mod to tweak them, and now I enjoy it even more.

But I'm not crying and making a tantrum every five minutes about them, I fixed it myself, end of story. If they don't want to do it then cool, it's not needed on my end.

[frosty cypress]

Pick 20 buildings at random in the world 18 probably have outside corners. There currently aren't any mods I've found that do fix the ashlands "gaps" if you know of one please suggest as I'd be happy to quit bitching about flaws in the product. I've got 3000 hrs in so it's not coming from a place of hate

[livid widget]

There are outside corner pieces?

[fossil delta]

They do listen. I mean, I can build Dverger doors. Now I just have to figure out how to properly frame them. 😄 I was one of the many who complained about not having those to build right after Mistlands was released, and I was thrilled when I finally saw it show up on my build list this play through. They were right, though. The build lists are getting more troublesome to read. Like I am getting to hate having to look through the recipes on the Cauldron.

[unique onyx]

the only thing that fits is black marble (so far)

[frosty cypress]

Not in grausten

[livid widget]

ah! Didn't realize that

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612

[unique onyx]

ohhh so it's the little gap where 2 walls fit together on the outside?

[frosty cypress]

I'm hoping it's just oversight.

[unique onyx]

i have no idea but i do get the feeling it's easier to build with pillars than overhanging things with those pieces. variety and all that

[frosty cypress]

If you have a square house. The flat slopes of the roof need to come together at the corner. I don't even know how to build without that

Would love any suggestions or ss of people doing it without them, I just can't finger out how to make it look clean

[unique onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q93jFSn7d5Y

dunno if i can link that here but this one seems alright

i don't really like where hte pilllars poke through, but the rest looks good at first glance

[fossil delta]

Its not on theiir Known Issues list, so people need to keep suggesting it is needed/wanted.

[livid widget]

You don't need to have corners radbrad

[frosty cypress]

Ah I see. Slope on two sides only. Didn't think of that. Not a very good building mind unfortunately. 😕 thanks for the suggestion

[livid widget]

it should have it, but it's not needed. There is an overhang piece and you could technically just overhang the row on each side

I agree it's limiting tho

[frosty cypress]

I see..I see. Have seen that style build just never used it so didn't occur to me

[unique onyx]

yeah with creative stuff sometimes it helps to look at other people's work or even just take a step back if you come to a block. no big deal

[livid widget]

yeah just imagine a rectangle building and the rows of tiles spanning the length of it. Just put an overhang tile on each end and build up to the peak of the roof

So your roof is 1 tile longer than the walls on each end

Or, you could stop it at the end, but I like having a tile of overhang personally

[teal horizon]

Does anyone have a breakdown of how many iolite/jade/bloodstone you need to upgrade everything?

[frosty cypress]

Yep. I gotcha now. Now gonna try to figure out how to use the small arches. My thought was window but can't fill in the wall around it

Thanks yall

[buoyant ether]

terraforming done 😤

i feel like its easier designing everything when u have a half a layout

like into what build

[azure yacht]

I'm seeing the same issues skeletts have for tames when they're surrounded by walls...

That AI is broken

[marsh tangle]

Would anyone care to show me how to properly build roofs in game can give join code and password if anyone’s feeling generous to help kinda stumped atm

[ornate sigil]

There are a ton of examples in the screenshot section: https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202310893757530142

Try looking there and searching "roof" when in that area might help.

[marsh tangle]

@ornate sigil Iv seen them and me trying replicate or close to seems to be failing atm can’t get it to look proper or even be structured properly

[pearl drift]

Do you have snapping on, have you adjusted the snap points?

[ornate sigil]

Ah, well I am off work in about 5-6 hours. You are welcome to DM me if you want me to join your game and walk you though how I do roofs (very basic stuff/nothing fancy like in some of those screenshots).

[marsh tangle]

Snapping’s not really the issue it’s more so layout and integrity I’m still fairly new to the game probably 10 hours or so in

[marsh tangle]

Sounds good I appreciate it

[pearl drift]

Oh OK, once you feel it out it will be 2nd nature. I'm sure you will find the way

[frosty cypress]

Ha. Why have I not seen mentioned anywhere that the shield generator..has a ..I dunno what to call it besides selfdestruct sequence. Unsure if it actually destroyed it as I got player structure damage turned off. But I sure as hell fried my ass just now by saying..wonder what this activate button does. Was hilarious discovery though it cost me some skill

[ornate sigil]

Shield generator shouldn't self destruct, but the obliterator kinda does with the AOE of electricity it does when activated.

[frosty cypress]

Definatly was shield generatir

[ornate sigil]

Odd. It shouldn't AFAIK.

[primal bridge]

Does anyone else think the Ashlands spawn rate is just way too high? I cant walk for more than 30 seconds without being attacked by a party of skeletons, or a morgen/valk spawning just behind or near me

[ornate sigil]

It should just "run out" once all it's fuel is consumed by being hit with attacks.

[primal bridge]

I see people talking on reddit and steam forums that they're saying the PTR spawn change is too much, but jesus i feel like anything is better than this

[ornate sigil]

There are patch notes in the PTB channel about nerfing spawn rates...so just hold out and you might some relief.

[frosty cypress]

If you look up some from where you put in bones it says armed and ready with activate button

[vocal rivet]

As you say, it's been discussed ad infinitum.

[primal bridge]

Have you tried the PTR? I havent myself and wonder if what people are saying is true though about them tuning it down too much

[frosty cypress]

If you push it. Run like hell

[vocal rivet]

Most people will agree it's gone too far.

[ornate sigil]

I did before ashlands went live, so that patch was before my time.

Or after?

[vocal rivet]

After.

[primal bridge]

IMO they could just space out the spawns a bit.. as in have packs spawn a bit further apart

in an endless loop of spamming campfires around my FOB and then they get destroyed and i cant walk anywhere without being outnumbered 5 or 8 to 1

[vocal rivet]

The spawns are the same as in every biome.

[primal bridge]

theres no way this is true

[ornate sigil]

That sounds like a bug. I'll have to see once I get home....in like 4 hours.

Though just a common player, I like testing things.

[vocal rivet]

Mobs spawn based on the zone the player is in. Mobs try and spawn every 4 seconds. This is universal. What they seem to have gotten wrong is the spawn chance and the cooldown between spawns.

[frosty cypress]

Def not a bug. Starts flashing or something like before the energy burst. I knew I fucked up when I pushed it. Should've run. Was a delay long enough to get out of the zone

Panicked

Other folks not noticed this?

[primal bridge]

Yeah it does seem that way. I just wanted to see if I was crazy for thinking the rates were too much 😂

[frosty cypress]

Killed me in full gear too. Obliterator is weak sauce

[vocal rivet]

As you say, Reddit is full of people whining about it. To the extent it's been nerfed in the latest patch.

[frosty cypress]

It's pretty hairy for sure.

Why nobody is saying yeah my shield generator murdered me too? Surely some of yall noticed? Derek?

[ornate sigil]

I do know there was a bug that made them deconstruct seemingly at random, but acting like an obliterator is news to me...now I really wish I was home to test this.

[frosty cypress]

I wish you luck. Dm me when you find out. I really perplexed that yall ain't seen this.

[vocal rivet]

Sorry, haven't used it.

[frosty cypress]

Oh ok thx. Mabey lots of us dont. Thatd explain it

[shy marlin]

Live version or ptb version?

[frosty cypress]

Live

[shy marlin]

Can you explain step by step of what happened so that I can try and recreate it?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, if your ptb you get to post such things in that channel.

[frosty cypress]

Na it's live. Just walk up to generator as if putting in bones, and look up on the antenna around a meter above that

See prompt. Push button. Run. Tell me I'm not crazy

[fossil delta]

I think its pretty safe to say we are all a little bit crazy. Its the degree of crazy that matters.

[shy marlin]

I'm not seeing it. I'll post a clip of what I see in #memes-and-clips and maybe you could help direct me to where you saw it?

[frosty cypress]

I'm posting a ss in that channel too

[shy marlin]

k

[frosty cypress]

I don't think its from a mod as nothings directly aslannds related

[shy marlin]

Eh you never know with mods

I'd like to see your screenshot though

[frosty cypress]

#screenshots message

[shy marlin]

Ye nah, I smell mods

[vocal rivet]

Hm, the Obliterator and the Eitr refinery cause damage to players so it's not the first time it's happened if it IS intentional.

[frosty cypress]

So it's not there huh? Guess sneaky mod author. Thanks. Would explains why yall ain't seen it

[buoyant ether]

using battering rams aint easy 😭 😭 😭

[shy marlin]

Yea I don't see it on vanilla. Def some weird mod interaction going on.

[frosty cypress]

Hmm. Thanks for helping

[solar swift]

Alright, the amount of bugs and lag i experience playing this game is at its limits

Died and loot disappeared in the mistlands, gravestone is gone.

I guess i'll play again in a couple of years

[livid widget]

Sounds like a justified reason to cheat

Just spawn your gear back

[fierce granite]

feels right

[supple jasper]

so fun in the drakar ship, can't see anything

boat occupies 50% of my vision xD

spawn rate changes haven't hit stable yet, right?

[azure yacht]

#valheim-patchnotes

[supple jasper]

thank you

[unique oracle]

Are the spawn rates in the ashlands broken? There are non-stop spawns of charred enemies and morgen, even with all the spawners destroyed and caves emptied. This makes the game very un-fun.

[pulsar mortar]

New test patch reduces them

[unique oracle]

Thanks for letting me know! Is there any way I can find out more about this test patch and how long it will take for it to be implented? The skill drain + spawn rates makes it quite unplayable.

[livid widget]

No one knows, but it's been on test for several days now

[pulsar mortar]

#public-test-patchnotes #valheim-public-test still I hope it will go live before friday (I can play with friend only on friday and saturday)

[fair cairn]

if you only see no access you should head over to id:customize

[unique oracle]

Cheers, many thanks. I hope it's effective. If you do try it out, could you share your experience with it? I do not want to get my hopes up as this is quite disappointing.

[unique oracle]

Thank you! It is still no visible, but i think discord will take a bit of time.

[fair cairn]

you give yourself the roles in id:customize and gaian access to the test channel and infor on how to join the test branch version

[unique oracle]

Aha, thanks 😄

[vocal rivet]

With the team on vacation it seems unlikely.

[pulsar mortar]

Oh, good to know.

[sly oyster]

Chief complaint after change. Man the Ashland is so empty

[tiny tiger]

I feel like I reach a point around mistlands where my enjoyment of the game starts to stagnate

[worthy turtle]

are quality 5 fish rare

[tiny tiger]

Like Ive got building my new base as my current task and it feels like it literally takes dozens of hours to gather enough stone and black marble to make any progress on building it

[tiny tiger]

very

[azure yacht]

Heh, I'm kinda on the same thing.

[worthy turtle]

is it worth keeping, or js crafting into fish

[azure yacht]

The eitr grind is an important factor on why

Mistlands gear needs so much and it's not like those skulls are abundant

And this world is at x2 resource rate

[frosty cypress]

ive pulled in easily 1000 angler fish through my various plays. caught 1 lvl 5

[worthy turtle]

oh shi

i lwk js turned mine into raw fish

[frosty cypress]

oh crap sorry im late

[worthy turtle]

LMFAO ur good

[frosty cypress]

what kind?

i wanna see lvl 5 tuna. itd be enormous. angler was bigger than me

[sly oyster]

Are there still any working no rod fish farms?

[ornate sigil]

Someone recently mentioned using roof pieces for that reason.

[daring oasis]

sometimes it clips inside a tree or smth, you can check around the area

[regal mural]

Yes it is too high, cant wait for the damn reduction of spawnrate.
Its just so stupid right now. Throwing away all this loot, seeing the landsacpe full of shiny star.
I wish they had more health. more damage, more speed, and were on fire so you cant melee all the time.

Right now all we have are worthless soldiers being more annoying than greydwarfs.
Gredwarfs early game were more of a problem than them, they are just annoying.

I am glad IronGate is waking up to the logic difference between HARD and ANNOYING.

[gray sand]

It's fine tbh 🤷‍♂️
But it is getting nerfed. So can just wait it out if you dislike the current iteration.

[azure yacht]

And now the biome is boring...

Yes, "victory"...

The war and conflict themed biome is... Peaceful and quiet

I hope the nerfs are tweaked before going live

[hidden gorge]

sorry I'm a bit late, but generally in order to build taller structures you have to advance a bit further through the game to unlock some critical tools for decent elevation

[primal bridge]

I think you can achieve the a war themed biome and have it be plenty dangerous without overwhelming the player with copious spawns

[regal mural]

To build the highest structure you need IRON. and the IRON poles are the best ones to build structures

[regal mural]

Yeah exactly, many just think, non stock trashy enemies is warlike

[primal bridge]

You can get taller with IRON GATES…

[regal mural]

Its just bad in the current state, all it does is overflowing players with ressources

Like the other day i hade 4 valkiries in a row right after 1 died and at some point 2 on me with a morgen

its very easiliy manageable even with their speed ( i am also playing full wizard)
so its just an annoyance

Their attack are REALLY easy to avoid.
They barelly do any damage on the shields

I think having a group of 20 skeletons just roaming together and risking to encounter them is a better scare thingy

[gray sand]

Every other biome is "few enemies that take a bit to kill"

More enemies was something new, and it is fresh and fun imo.
Dropped spawn rate to make Ashlands just like every other biome but visually different is boring as fuck. 🤷‍♂️

[regal mural]

No way, we have Dark forest where 10 greydwarfs can easily chase you, then there is the plains ( or even mountains ) where a big amount of enemies came to you, and wolves are hard to kill to on the mountains

This is just a re itteration of something they already had, nothing new at all

The ONLY fresh thing I feel in ashland is the valkyrie as a new enemy

[gray sand]

As a person who is literally deforesting a BF island atm, never been accosted by more than 5 at a time.

[regal mural]

even the morgen is a joke as it is easier to kill than when i encountered a root for the first time

[gray sand]

Wolves are packs of 3-4 unless you get Hunted.

[regal mural]

daytime ?
Nightime you got some more

[gray sand]

Plains they are restricted to their villages.

[regal mural]

YEah i have raid set to max and got hunted a lot.
That was hard and fun, this ashland is trash compared to that

[gray sand]

Ashlands is/was new.

[regal mural]

I would have "hunted" in plains, mountains etc

Scarier than "THGE DEAD ARE MARCHING"

That thing does not scare me

[gray sand]

You modified your baseline experience to be something else and are now complaining about the baseline experience?

Yeah... this is where I stop caring about your feedback 🤷‍♂️

[regal mural]

No I am using it as a compairaison.
Between what is easy and dull which is annoying
and something that is actually challenging

I compared them both wit htheir respective Biome ( prev biome) gear

[regal mural]

When you missunderstand and then make a decision on it. It is called somethimng

[gray sand]

So this will boil down to what it always does:

Person A dislikes something Person B likes. Neither will be convinced either way.
Points have been made by both sides. Continuance becomes circular.

Moving on...

[regal mural]

You disliked what I like and tried to diminish it.
I explained to you the differences as to why i believed so.
You missunderstood my point. Then proceed to insult by not finding opinion worthy.
You are not having a discussion, so it is better to move on indeed.

[gray sand]

Wow...

[regal mural]

Indeed

[gray sand]

Not what happened. But believe what you want to I guess. 🤷‍♂️

[livid widget]

Packs of mobs are fine in AL imo. It's the constant stream of them that is too much

[regal mural]

Ahslaned.
MY archer skeleton stuns an asksvin with 1 bow.
Hard enemies there 😄

[regal mural]

You mean like what you depicted and it not what happened so I corrected you with what happened so you say that it didnt happen ?
ok

[regal mural]

As a reFerence point, this is what we were talking about in case you lost the point in your "arguments"
#valheim-chat message

[azure yacht]

X for doubt

[regal mural]

You mean, X for ignorance 😄

[shy marlin]

Nah it's def possible

[azure yacht]

You are overestimating their wishes for doing something in more dynamic ways

[lunar sapphire]

✨

[azure yacht]

I would be very surprised if they managed to tweak them in a better way than just another number change

Which is why I don't expect such changes

[regal mural]

I would not be surprised that they are able to tweak it in a better fashion on their SECOND try after having actual player feedback.\

Usually it is how it works. The first is almsot never the best

[primal bridge]

Why not? Developers control everything. The only thing that’s in the way could be possible technical limitations, but everything else is in their control. Even if something goes against the intended design, things can be changed

[regal mural]

Why you should always expect better changes

[regal mural]

If the devs had done literally anything else, You would still havre people saying
"this is the way" as if devs know the best way and dont have any issues ever

[primal bridge]

You can most certainly create a challenging biome that is not annoying. This isn’t some new concept to gaming

[regal mural]

It is humbling to understand what we like sometimes is bad

[azure yacht]

It was also in their control to make mistlands "easier" without those significant nerfs and look where we are... Almost a year later

[regal mural]

Yeah 100%

This is a KEY part that many devs are just very poorly educated on it if not at all.
Most dont even understand the conceptual differences

[primal bridge]

And the biome isn’t annoying per se. I like it a lot. I think it’s very well done. The spawns are just slightly too much

[gray sand]

You're forgetting a fundamental:

"Better" is subjective.

[regal mural]

Mistland is trash no matter how you look at it. But enemies are better than ashland tbh

[azure yacht]

For you 🤷

[regal mural]

Not when we objectively look at something.

[primal bridge]

I loved everything about the mistlands tbh… lol

[gray sand]

That's... lmfao. Not how this works.

I'm out. Ignorant brick wall. I have better things to do with my time.

[regal mural]

For example, Me poking you in your arm 10000 times is annoying right ?
But then I could tell you, " no, its just hard to dodge my figner"

No, objectivelly being poked in the arm that many times is annoying, even painful

[azure yacht]

Me too.

They could've added a post-mistlands structure to remove mist in a larger radius, do we have it? No

[regal mural]

Yes it is exactly how things work. T|
Things re subhjective when the source of it is not objective.
All you need to do is chose an objective point.

We understand psychology enough to make thosse differences

Everything is not only Subjective

[gray sand]

Do not ping me again, please.

[azure yacht]

They shouldn't have made the biome weaker.

They should've made the equipment better

[regal mural]

What do you mean ?

[shy marlin]

[gray sand]

Stop.

[regal mural]

Or fix the stamina system that tyhe majority dislike

[slender rover]

You know, a constant theme of this discord every time there is a significant point of disagreement about the execution of the game is people talking AT each other, rather than TO each other, and jfc it is wearisome.

[shy marlin]

Equipment is already giga strong...

[regal mural]

No need to make everyone weaker or stronger.
Just a better system that makes more sense

[shy marlin]

glances at ask set, the entirety of mage, axes, and enchantments

[regal mural]

OP. I am clearing ashalnd as a mage, its such a cakewalk its absurd

[primal bridge]

Everything about the Ashlands is extremely well done, except for spawn rates. I’ve got no complaints about any other part of it

[regal mural]

Its so ridiculously absurd how easy it is that I am not excited to continue

I even took dowjn a fort and got some flamemetal, then and only after I discovered we have RAMS

[craggy mason]

why does flax gets its weight x10 when made into linen thread

[regal mural]

LOGIC

[primal bridge]

More dense maybe

[craggy mason]

But flax to linen is 1:1

[regal mural]

I think 1 flax , makes 1

[azure yacht]

Ah, there it is

The "majority of players agree with what I specifically think and say" "argument".

This one never stops being amusing

[primal bridge]

People dislike the stamina system…?

[livid widget]

Maybe they need a spawn frequency slider

[azure yacht]

The upgrades could improve the special effects...

[regal mural]

Because it contrasts with what the devs ignorantly thought was good but then realize they had to change it because it is better ?

[regal mural]

The majority is a a point of proving YOU wrong, not me right btw

[fair cairn]

how is it bad?

[regal mural]

It is not an argument as much as it is a counter to a bad argument

Saying stamina is perfect, its just so wrong, and easy to counter.

[shy marlin]

I could get behind that, I dislike the rng factor of the enchantments, but def not buff them even more lol

[azure yacht]

True, they should add drinks/potions, a buff that increases the regen, and maybe another potion type that increases it as well...

[livid widget]

I hope they increase the basalt timer and tone down the fireball knockbacks also

[craggy mason]

Vast majority of the time, when I see people complain about the stamina system, it's because they don't understand it or don't bother to use it to its fullest

[regal mural]

No its just bad.

[craggy mason]

What's wrong with it ? I think it works quite well personally

[livid widget]

Nonsense, you shouldn't be punished for spam clicking weapon swings!