valheim-chat

[plush lynx]

i.e. spawning almost every minute on the same spot and coming to visit our place 😄

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.
I was mining silver and a 2 star wolf decided to fall into the pit and now it is getting tamed.
I love a 2 star wolf practically falling in my lap.

[outer spindle]

Yes, it's an environmental hazard to have skeletons constantly clawing at you

[pulsar osprey]

barley grows on mistlands?

[opal prairie]

No, only in the plains, all plants prior to plains can grow in plains, jotun puffs and magecaps in mistlands.

[pulsar osprey]

okay

[warped wing]

do leeches respawn? i cant seem to get any new leech spawns in the swamp i go to

[merry pebble]

i believe they should

[opal prairie]

They do as long as there are no player base structures around.

[plush lynx]

wat? 😄

[outer spindle]

The biome tests your stealth or running skills. Combat is discourage due to trash loot drops from skeletons.

[rain flare]

Best table in the game! 🥳

[rain flare]

Meowning 🤣
What a lovely way to make a new friend! 🥰

[rain flare]

It’s hard on purpose.
It’s the second last biome of the game so it’s kicking the difficulty (and the ambience) up a notch 🔥

[opal prairie]

Wolfs go Awooo, not meow.
Yes it was a wonderful coincidence.
Now I'll get a regular wolf and get some extra 2 star wolves in the mountain before I try and take it off the mountain, across the black forest, a short swim and then more black forest to our meadows base.
If I get 2 wolves there, I can start making my wolf army and can then transport some to our plains base once we make it.

[river forge]

Won't wolves get absolutely destroyed in plains

[merry pebble]

not if you have enough 😄 because then everything else will get destroyed (more so if they are 2 stars)

[mint blade]

black forge better fs

[soft shoal]

Iron Gate, can you make Vaheim for Playstation 4,5?

[opal prairie]

Depends on the amount of wolves, once they get chomping they can stunlock some of the plains mobs and they are more for a distraction and easy meat source than anything else.

[rain flare]

Two star wolves is a big woof - 2-3 can kill zerkers

[river forge]

Make lox and frog things from ashlands follow when tame

[rain flare]

Naaaaaaah
Mage builds for the win! 🥳🤣

[near sigil]

Grausten pillars only being 1 meter tall makes building with this stuff a nightmare

the material is made for huge builds, but getting any height done is so tedious

[opal prairie]

No one knows, not the devs, not the players and not the queens of the stone age.
It will be done when it is done.
It could be 1.5-2 years for next biome, ocean, balancing and other (fun) stuff, could be longer could be shorter.

[cobalt aspen]

i hope a cutscene/credit / feature for ascension to valhalla will be a feature after they are happy with the bosses in the game and the 'story' progression etc.

considering they said tree of life will probably be used eventually, gives me hope

[pulsar vector]

Guys, I have a question. Why, having explored 5 mountainous regions, I found only 1 copper deposit. Is silver that rare?

[tepid prawn]

50 2 star wolves will kill yagluth before he meteors them, need less than 50 but I dont know exact numbers, thats how many I brought for my first ever Yagluth kill when valheim EA released

[tepid prawn]

copper, what? you using wishbone yes? silver spawns a little higher than obsidian, if the mountain is not high enough for obsidian to spawn there is 0 chance for silver

[opal prairie]

If you kill bonemass, you get the wishbone, you need to activate that.
It will ping if there is hidden treasure / iron / silver around.
The closer you are to it the faster it will ping so once it start pinging move forward if it pings faster keep going till it goes slower again and try to zoom in on a really fast pinging, dig down and you should find it.
If it goes slower by moving foward try another direction till you find the direction that makes it ping faster.

You also need a really tall mountain, silver can only be found above obsidian, so if you don't see any obsidian on the mountain do not try.

[paper marsh]

Yeah just try to go to a really tall mountain, then there's usually silver everywhere

[pulsar vector]

mistyped
Can there be more than 1 silver place on one mountain?

[tepid prawn]

there can be more than 10 easily

but they are all buried under the terrain, do you have the wishbone and know how to use it?

[ornate sigil]

There can be multiple deposits for ore per biome (mountain in this case)

[opal prairie]

Absolutely I once found 3 silver veins stacked on top and next to each other on a tall but small mountain.
In our current moder mountain I have found at least 5 hidden spots, not sure its all silver but the chances are high and only a third of the mountain has been explored.

[pulsar vector]

Yeah yeah, I know how to use it. But it's dont pinging anywhere😅

[tepid prawn]

don't use it unless you're a bit higher than where the obsidian spawns are, not tall enough mountain then

[opal prairie]

It is active and you are on a mountain above obsidian deposits?

[pulsar vector]

omg, lucky

[tepid prawn]

I found 2 silver veins sticking out without using wishbone on my current playthrough which is a new record for me

[pulsar vector]

+, I found 1 vein once after explored 5 mountain system😅

[final bloom]

I got one a while ago, and I'm finlally using them in my Dwarf Farm

[pulsar vector]

I'll try to find higher mountains, like you said) Thanks for the tip

[tepid prawn]

if you don't mind some spoilering you could use the valheim seed viewer to find a big mountain

[opal prairie]

once I get a few more I will transport some to my dwarf farm as well, I'll put them a ways away and connect them with a tunnel that I can seal from their end, so if I want to train myself I can gather all the wolves and put them away till further notice.

[final bloom]

Be ready to farm some meat. Those hungry boys like to eat

[weary ridge]

Hey I have a few fire swords if anyone wants them

If not ima just obliterate them

[final bloom]

I even need some tips on how to gather meat for them quickly, what I'm doing is hunting on meadows for Deer and Lizzards

I didnt reach Mistland yet

[opal prairie]

Boar farm, preferably a 2 star boar farm, 4 meat for each boar, either a big pen so you can have loads or an auto breeder.

[final bloom]

Auto Breeder? Hmmm

I have a pen with 1* boars

[opal prairie]

Basically a tower with boars trapped next to each other in a small space with their butts above a hole so you feed them, they birth a piggy that piggy drops down and they can keep on going, sidestepping the only x boars in a certain area since the ones doing the birthing are up high enough.

If you want a more concrete example I can direct you to a youtube video about it.

[final bloom]

I just found a post on Reddit, he also seems to have a YT link

Welp, there is my next project... Wish i could send a photo os my Dwarf Farm in here

[opal prairie]

#screenshots or #building-screenshots

[near furnace]

not sure where your info is comming from.
but we have absolutly NOT said anything on any time frames going forward.

[opal prairie]

@near furnace How are you doing?
Have you won that battle on two fronts?

[near furnace]

Hm..?

<-- still sick

if that's what you're asking

[opal prairie]

Yes that is what I was asking.
Hope you win soon and that the small kids keep their germs to themselves!

[vocal rivet]

I blame Germ.

[merry pebble]

only one? 👀

[vocal rivet]

They are the Queen Germ after all.

[merry pebble]

hmm, true true.. 😄

[near furnace]

I also blame @vocal vale

[vocal rivet]

I avoided pinging them, but you're the boss.

[tight yacht]

Do animal pens need to be fully enclosed? How do you handle raids?

I imagine the pig pen needs to be fully enclosed to protect it from bats at least

[smoky quarry]

or you could build it at another location, by portal.

[slender rover]

If you have reached the mountains, enclosing your pens is generally a good idea. I like to include crystal windows for light though

[opal prairie]

I spawn proof my base and a bit around it and make sure there is a moat or an earthen wall.
That way each raid happens outside of the walls and a ways away so you can go deal with it.
I also make sure to have a backup pair of animals hidden in a floored over pit a, close by enough so I can get them back to base easily but far enough away so raids will skip it.
Most of the times I'll also set up an auto breeder on a remote small island that I can reach with a portal so if worst comes to worst I can get some from there.

[tiny tiger]

You could always have half the boars outside and half inside

[wary drift]

hello guys! is it worth it to u pgrade trollstav?

[stray swallow]

Does ashlands trigger storms or something?

[ornate sigil]

Each biome has a set couple of weather patterns. Ashlands weather patterns shouldn't follow you into another biome (unless you have a slow system, then it might for a little before switching). If you go from a stormy ocean to a blackforest or meadows, the storm will likely change to something else.

[paper marsh]

No

[near furnace]

I always ping people I have a DM conversation history with 😅

[vocal rivet]

Heh, fair enough.

[rapid tusk]

you either get 0 silver deposits on small mountains or like 5-10 on a big one

[fair cairn]

a tip is that silver wont spawn on a mountain that doesnt have obsidian

[stray swallow]

yeah no. If it's storming in one place, it will be storming in the other place if the place permits it

But so far it has been storming for 6 days straight whilst trying to attack an ashland fortress, which felt odd

[frozen fable]

Always mine more than you think you need. It really helps out in the long run

[iron onyx]

I think the ashlands only dificult because you can't max out your gear

[vocal vale]

I’m upping your sickness by tenfold now

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-sick-the-big-sick-gi-fs-movie-titles-gif-8568906

[fair cairn]

is the rest deepnorth level stuff?

[merry pebble]

i mean, even in gear thats not maxed out they are already not that difficult 🙂

[river forge]

play in hardmode then

maxed out gear means nothing

[iron onyx]

Probably or something inbetween minor update, its like this in evry biome you need ro go to till the mountains to max oit the crafting table. Releasing singular biomes will have this issue you ar behind gear till the next biome

[river forge]

trollstav is kinda rubbish

The troll is underpowered

[iron onyx]

Its not that dificult to kill them just anoying after a while

[river forge]

and it's hostile to everything

It's also buggy

[iron onyx]

Summon 2 trolls than

[paper marsh]

I’d say on hardmode maxing gear is more important. Tougher to parry enemies with lvl 1 shield

[river forge]

got two trolls wandering around in mistlands, I only have a level 1 trollstav

[merry pebble]

it is kinda kinda situational to be fair

[iron onyx]

It soaks up agro and tnaks a lot of hits thats the main purpose

[paper marsh]

On normal I usually don’t upgrade gear much but on hard / vhard I tend to

[iron onyx]

I like to over prepare

[river forge]

I was not impressed with it

[iron onyx]

Troll staff is only worth tho if you go full mage with 3 eitir food and feather cape to dodge with jumps

[half dragon]

it has one purpose and it is being a massive distraction, which it is really good at

[paper marsh]

I mean magic is OP enough to not need trollstav, but trollstav is very good at creating distractions if you are struggling with getting killed

So it’s very strong, but only if you’re struggling

[iron onyx]

Ye thats what i amsaying

[half dragon]

also good at taking down forts safely, also good at mining stone...

[river forge]

I'd prefer something that doesn't have mostly downsides

[half dragon]

just summon a troll in mistlands and you'll get a lot of stone quickly

[iron onyx]

It doesnt have too much its fine staff

[river forge]

It doesn't take much to kill it on hardmode, struggles with 2 of any enemies in ashlands

[thorn wren]

Troll Staff is amazing for getting around Ashlands actually. While you are sailing just summon it on every Bonemaw that spawns and they actually fight in the deep water. You can just keep on sailing xD

[river forge]

You can't be strategic with it, because it's a giant flaming homicidal monster that wants everything dead

[iron onyx]

Thats why its called hard mode XD the vame is balanced to normal mode

Game*

[half dragon]

imo, trollstav would make more sense to tunnel vision enemies first, and only when they're all dead turn on you

[river forge]

The devs don't want us to ever be safe lol

little irked too that the tameable stuff is trending towards not following you

lox don't follow, frogs from ashlands don't follow

[iron onyx]

They will do some balancing later on probably, the mistlands like the mistlands

[paper marsh]

In terms of gear the mistlands is the most unbalanced biome in the game imo

[river forge]

dunno

[iron onyx]

Sorry for my braindamaged typeing bzw

[vocal rivet]

That's a weird assumption to make.

[river forge]

Well nothing in mistlands was tameable

[paper marsh]

Feels bad because Ashlands is actually pretty well balanced, which makes a good amount of the Ashlands items obsolete as the overpowered mistlands weapons are just as good if not better

[river forge]

Lox can be tamed, don't follow

[vocal rivet]

The ONLY thing that follows you when tamed is the wolf.

That would be the exception, not the rule.

[paper marsh]

Guess it depends on how you define Chickens. I've seen them defined as Mistlands, Plains, and Black Forest tames

[thorn wren]

I think the only thing actually wrong with Mistlands is the elevation issues that are present in the entire game.
Combat there is very annoying... semi frequently and it is just the elevation stuff.
The amount of times --- even in this last playthrough I just completed --- that I parried a bug only to then swing my weapon directly through it twice and not hit both time... is staggering

[half dragon]

How else could it bite your neck when you're sleeping if it's not following?

[vocal rivet]

Staggering only happens if you're hit.

[thorn wren]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you didn't read my last message xD

[vocal rivet]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't understand humour.

[thorn wren]

I mean sarcasm is kinda hard to detect in plaintext with no emotes and a single sentence. It be that way

[vocal rivet]

It wasn't sarcasm so why would I use emotes?

[azure yacht]

Shocking news: In a barren and hostile world, you are not meant to feel safe...

What's even more shocking is that you are not meant to be safe in the most hostile and dangerous biome in the game so far

[thorn wren]

but honestly, I do hope the elevation stuff gets addressed eventually, it's super obnoxious especially with like spears

[vocal rivet]

It's been the longest standing bug since EA so I'd imagine so.

[azure yacht]

Eureka moment

[thorn wren]

If you weren't sarcastically implying that I meant an in-game stagger then where is the joke my guy lmao

[half dragon]

Dark souls does it pretty well. Melee attacks are adjusted depending on where your enemy is located

[vocal rivet]

I was implying it without sarcasm. Where would the sarcasm have come into it?

[thorn wren]

It's not a joke if you actually thought I was referring to an in-game stagger, then it's just you reading incorrectly

Or you're just trolling

[vocal rivet]

I didn't think you were referring to in-game stagger? When did I say or even suggest that?

[river forge]

We're all trolls here

[thorn wren]

I don't know how to help you lmao

[vocal rivet]

Likewise, I'll just block you.

Reading comprehension is hard.

[river forge]

No need for hostilities

[thorn wren]

Yikes, so you act like a complete idiot and then tell me you're blocking me ok buddy

[half dragon]

"that I parried a bug only to then swing my weapon directly through it twice and not hit both time... is staggering"

[vocal rivet]

Yes, I read what they said.

[river forge]

[hearty niche]

I read what you said and you're right, you used staggering to describe response to shock in how many swings you've taken that didn't land.

[vocal rivet]

I just don't get where the idea that all jokes have to involve saracasm came from.

[hearty niche]

I sometimes am not sure whether Derek is kidding myself and I share a similar dry sense of humor?

[vocal rivet]

I've already made it clear I was joking.

[thorn wren]

Yea then he tried to say his next message was a joke --- but the joke would be "I am intentionally misinterpreting the use of "stagger" haha isn't that funny?"
But then he claimed he wasn't using sarcasm, meaning he was being literal
which is LITERALLY wrong. lmao

[hearty niche]

So we can all agree miscommunication happens and that the height difference thing is annoying af?

[vocal rivet]

No, you can make jokes that aren't sarcastic 😕

[hearty niche]

I've learned to work around it but it's still aggravating at times

[vocal rivet]

I don't think words mean what you think they do.

[thorn wren]

Ye agree, I just hope it's addressed at some point -- might be a major pain point especially for non-veteran players

[hearty niche]

Yeah I think your response was a bit more sardonic than sarcastic? Sometimes that one is like Alanis Morrisette and irony and I'm not sure I'm using it right.

[vocal rivet]

Sardonic would certainly work. There was definitely no sarcasm.

[hearty niche]

So just yesterday I learned about voffset and size in building signs. Curious if anyone has tips/tricks there. It's pretty cool how you can make signs that are visible from waaaaaaaay far away

[thorn wren]

so humorous mockery VS grim more serious mockery --- WOW what a distinction -- this was definitely worth being super extra over

[azure yacht]

wonders how this is all related to valheim at this point

[vocal rivet]

Not remotely, some people like to labour points that were wrong.

[hearty niche]

That's definitely sarcasm

[half dragon]

parries and staggering are serious business

[vocal rivet]

Vertical combat will, almost certainly be fixed before 1.0. The devs know it's an issue that everyone wants fixed.

[hearty niche]

It's one of those problems that I can imagine being hard to solve less in "how do we code the solution?" and more "How do we make this behave so it works how we want without feeling janky?"

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, I was thinking the same. I've never coded a game but it definitely sounds like it's a lot harder to fix than some would suggest.

[azure yacht]

#general message

[vocal rivet]

Um, unclear how that is relevant to the statement. Check your link?

[hearty niche]

Precisely the bug I imagined. Hopefully they'll reconsider that and circle back around. I get it, it's an annoying problem to solve but there are DOZENS of ways to skin that cat and it's just a matter of finding the intersection.

[vocal rivet]

Or is it just Discord being Discord?

[outer vortex]

It might just be Derek being Derek

[hearty niche]

It links to Smiffe saying they're not gonna fix fighting on slopes in mine

[azure yacht]

Probably, because it's specifically about smiffe saying "nope" to sloped combat

[vocal rivet]

Ah, my bad, didn't see what it was replying to.

And yikes, that's not a great reply.

[half dragon]

This slope combat thing has been done and fixed so many times in many different games, why have to make it more complicated than it has to be🤦‍♂️ ?

[azure yacht]

Nope.

Seems like mods will always be the solution for that specific issue

At least in my case I won't abuse it like smiffe implies there

[hearty niche]

Is there a mod that fixes it satisfactorily?

[azure yacht]

Probably...

[half dragon]

A mod did it incorrectly, therefore we will not get it right either...?

[vocal rivet]

Given that bug priority surely depends on the number of people it affects this should be near the top, not completely ignored?

[hearty niche]

Post a link to your unity project where you solve the problem.

[half dragon]

you're being a funny jackass alright. don't need to do any of that when so many different games already got it right

[azure yacht]

Yes, but considering that statement it's now in the list of "do we actually want this and is it worth trying to fix/implement it as a result?"

Because smiffe has also said that that issue is very hard to fix and it's because of limitations regarding the character

[hearty niche]

I wasn't trying to be funny nor a jackass. I'm saying if it's a problem easily solved, surely you have the solution you can share, yes?

Make a mod that fixes it and send the code to IG

[half dragon]

I do, just make it both you and the enemy can damn adjust the angle of swings so BOTH can hit a bit higher and lower

[vocal rivet]

That's verging on jackassness.

[azure yacht]

Wouldn't be surprised if it required weeks minimum to even have results unless they come up with an overhaul for the character

[thorn wren]

What he said is rather pointless, you personally don't need to have resolved the problem to make a complaint about it.
However, other games solving the issue on their project doesn't really impact how it was set up here in this game.
The devs likely aren't working on a codebase that was taken from some other game xP
so they have to solve it from scratch --- I'm sure they can and may eventually -- but no other solution on the market is likely to be directly applicible to this game

[hearty niche]

Because, as I understand, the problem is they haven't been able to find a solution that works well and previous attempts have resulted, as Smiffe said, with inaccurate targeting instead.

So if it's such an easy problem to solve, then that person should share their novel solution that has apparently been overlooked

[azure yacht]

But overhauling the character also requires tweaking everything the character can equip, like armors

A reason why we don't have different body sizes

[hearty niche]

Perhaps I'm misinterpreting Smiffe but "We've tried to solve it and it didn't work out and modders have tried to solve it and it didn't work out for them either so we're not going to keep investing energy in it" seems like a fair summary.

[half dragon]

doesn't even need anything complicated. Surely you've seen those simple 2D games that allow you to aim up and down and do a swing animation aimed at the cursor? A bit more complicated in 3D if you don't want it to look all janky but perfectly doable

[vocal rivet]

"A bit more complicated" - Sure, only a bit...

[half dragon]

just a little bit, ez

[vocal rivet]

(for reference THAT was sarcasm)

[hearty niche]

2D Collission is easy - polygon-in-polygon

3D collission - especially with physics - yes is tons more complex

how many ways can I find to mispell collision

[vocal rivet]

Well, you've mispelled it twice the same way. So... one?

[outer vortex]

Pedantic.

Did I spell that right?

[half dragon]

Either way, the real issue why they do not want to do it is because it would be too easy to abuse enemies, my proposal was that give that same ability to enemies as well

[hearty niche]

So then enemies could hit you from impossible angles? That doesn't sound like a solution unless I'm misunderstanding you.

[half dragon]

would also solve the issue of being able to stand at a spot where logically enemy should be able to hit you but cannot

[vocal rivet]

Can't they already do that?

[thorn wren]

It depends, like the goblins can miss there attacks all the time from the elevation issue
But Mistlands creatures tend to have more AOE like abilities or wider arcs to their hits so they don't really seem to experience it IMO

The issue I mentioned earlier of parrying a bug and then missing the 2 follow up attacks that my sword goes through their model is an example

[half dragon]

and then there's abomination that is hitting right through you... but that wasn't a hit

[hearty niche]

I've died a few times from lox stomps yeeting me off hillsides.

[thorn wren]

yeap

[hearty niche]

That's due to how the collision works. IIRC it's a raycast and checks whether the thing the ray hits meets certain criteria and it's not the actual model geometry hitting?

That the model geometry affects the physics engine so things can move correctly but whether you're hit by an enemy or whether you hit an enemy is a computed raycast.

[half dragon]

imo, the whole currenct system is a bit overly strict and rigid. Also just to point out how stupid it is that if you mine a rock the damage is going to be randomly halved because the game thinks you also hit the ground... yea you kinda did but why would it matter if you hit the ground after hitting that rock? Imo, the ground shouldn't even register as a hit unless you actually dig it

[unique onyx]

I’ve never noticed the ground causing this but it does do extra damage if you’re standing on what you’re mining

[snow raptor]

what stuff do I use first time going into an infested mine

[hearty niche]

I'd bring guns. Since this game doesn't have guns, you're gonna have to settle for the weapons you can build at a forge.

[fossil delta]

Your best AoE weapon is always a good idea in a dungeon in Valheim.

[thorn wren]

@snow raptor honestly Carapace shield and sword is "the best" imo when your doing your first one --- you just have to be confident in your ability to parry
Grab Bonemass for your ability as well and have some hp pots

[half dragon]

that "extra" damage is the normal damage...

[sharp bluff]

bonemass is still as busted as ever

[fossil delta]

I don't use that power nearly as much as I should. I am always saving it for when I "really" need it. So end up rarely using it. 😄

[thorn wren]

I have it at all times after he dies in that world --- really stuck with me after my HC run xD

[ember panther]

I still just run eikthyr

If the situation gets bad at least I can run

[fossil delta]

I use that more than any of them, by far.

[thorn wren]

The other ones are just not really valuable. deer is convinient, so is Moder, Elder is useless, Queen is only good as a caster (kinda), and even the Fader ability isn't good.
Some of these need to become passives or give you a passive if you have the ability
Like for example what if deer gave you 10% increased run speed at all times AND the active? Something like that could make the other options more attractive

[thorn wren]

why run when you can pop bonemass and literally facetank half a dozen enemies while you swing wildly and win

[smoky quarry]

no hand holding in Valheim

[half dragon]

queen is also good for getting more flametal

[fossil delta]

I wonder if the Bonemass resistance stacks with others? Like how the Serpent Shield and Root Harness stack.

[thorn wren]

I guess, but is it worth the risk of not having bonemass ? Enemies are practically raining on you at all times

[half dragon]

I don't even use powers in combat, can't bother. if it's something I can't rely on then I will not use it, for that same reason I end up with a lot of potions in games because there's limited supply for them and can't use them in every fight... so I'd rather not use them at all since I can't rely on them

[azure yacht]

Queen allows you to mine faster as well, which is a necessity for flametal pillars, especially before assaulting fortresses.

Double carry weight and 10% faster speed is really good as well.

And eikthyr is one of the most used, buffing them shouldn't even be on the list. It's like saying magic is weak and should be buffed when it's the most broken playstyle

[smoky quarry]

Stamina is all i need in combat and i cant get enoughy of it. That`s why I find the Eyth deer power best, as I can run for cover cheaply

[azure yacht]

Not even fenris set gives you 10% faster move speed

And even still, you can combine both

[pulsar mortar]

Can I break fortress inner door with pickaxe? I don't want to damage it too much since I want to keep it as a base

[azure yacht]

That would be 19% faster move speed

[smoky quarry]

Zoomers

[half dragon]

now combine that with my 80 runinng skill

fast as f boii

[thorn wren]

Fader buff, just like all others, is an active though. It's not really all that valuable to have double carry weight and 10% faster move speed 25% of the time IMO
Queen for mining your early Flametal, I can dig it, but I'd still rather just get slightly less and be safer with bonemass -- idk, it's arguable I get it.
For me, Deer is never used after Bonemass --- think about Mountains (wolf raid or golems) and Plains (any goblin camp, I can just walk into it and usually win without retreating at all because of bonemass) and Mistlands mines

Bonemass just has nutty value

[fossil delta]

I don't even bother with Fenris because of how high I get my run skill. I am usually in the 60's in Run and Jump by the time I go into the mtns to get silver.

[azure yacht]

Yes, like 99% of everything in the game, it's situational. That's the point.

You are never encouraged to have everything on you 100% of the time

[half dragon]

except food buffs

[thorn wren]

without any experience modifications that's wildly impressive. You must spend more time in earlier biomes than the typical player

[azure yacht]

And eikthyr is one of the most used powers in general, reduced stamina consumption for moving is life saver in most scenarios

[half dragon]

and just don't get hit and bonemass power becomes absolutely useless

[fossil delta]

On servers, I usually have to, because I have more time to play than most people do.

[thorn wren]

I mean that's not gonna happen haha, tons of combat in this game

[azure yacht]

That should just be a bigger reason to use it then because it would be run lvl 60 + 9% extra move speed...

You say that as if one cancelled the other

[ember panther]

Elder is easily the most underwhelming power. Cutting trees is pretty easy as is. Idk what else it could do. Maybe if it increased slash damage it'd be used by all the sword n axe people

[half dragon]

mage shield makes not getting (direct) hits very easy

[thorn wren]

Right but you don't have that until late mistlands

[fossil delta]

I say that as feeling its a waste of my time to get a buff I won't really notice the difference of...

[azure yacht]

I used a mod to make elder give me 20 extra levels to axe skill because of that

[azure yacht]

You certainly will notice the difference

[half dragon]

killed queen without losing a single point of health to enemies, only lost hp to reapplying shield

[thorn wren]

That's interesting

[golden wren]

Hello, was wondering what these community servers are. Can anyone join them?

[thorn wren]

But yea idk just did a playthrough with 2 friends and we used 2 bonemass and 1 deer (switched to queen later because they were both magic and I stuck to melee) and it went extremely smooth --- don't think any of us ever wanted anything other than Moder occassionally to get between ashlands biomes but then we obv swapped right back

[half dragon]

#1024264966712340510 would be good place to look for one to join

[fossil delta]

Why? I already feel like I am The Flash. Just how much faster do you feel like your going?

[half dragon]

faster

[azure yacht]

More is better

[half dragon]

also can't help but notice that more speed seems to increase jump height too, or am I just imagining things?

[azure yacht]

Especially when it involves not getting hit by easily moving away from the attack

[fossil delta]

Maybe, but I already run faster than pretty much anything except the Squitto's.

[thorn wren]

I thought the only thing that effects your jump height is your jump skill

[azure yacht]

Feather cape

[half dragon]

sprinting 100% increases jump height, I have 0 doubt about that

but at least to me it seemed like fenris set increases jump height a bit... but I might just be imagining it

[fossil delta]

I wouldn't know, my run and jump keep pace with each other.

Because I make sure of it.

[half dragon]

the feather cape is honestly hilarious. it makes jumping better than dodging for mages, why dodge when you can just jump and keep attacking?

with good jump skill it's basically same as having a dodge with really long iframes. tehcnically you can still get hit but... rarely happens

[smoky quarry]

you can run around mobs with deer power anyway.

deer + cape power = boss of mobility

[half dragon]

but you can't sprint and attack at the same time

[smoky quarry]

doesnt matter, running/jumping eat a lot of stamina.

u can run far away cheap, regen, attack

[half dragon]

doesn't matter if you're mage, you don't use any for attacking

[smoky quarry]

esp as a mage yes, u regen stamina while hurling fireballs

[thorn wren]

Just try with bonemass instead, I'm pretty sure if you use it for a while you'd fall in love with it too
I mean, again, I can just walk into a goblin camp with iron gear and win.

[smoky quarry]

i find Deer power best in ashlands, i run around mobs like a boss

my prefered method is jumping on their heads

[thorn wren]

They all deal physical damage (weirdly...) so bonemass is amazing there too. I've tanked 6+ enemies there too with it

[smoky quarry]

basically gives you free running

[fossil delta]

Something else too look forward to trying! 😄 😄

[thorn wren]

Honestly though, Ashlands enemies really need to deal more fire damage, it doesn't make a lot of sense

[smoky quarry]

chug a fire mead, no more of a problem

[thorn wren]

Yea but it would make you at least have to brew those

[half dragon]

probably the reason why they do not do fire damage

just drink potion and you don't need armor

[smoky quarry]

stamina is king and power that gives stamina is best

[thorn wren]

Just split the damage like our enchanted weapons, no??
60/40 or 70/30 split would make sense.
Then you could have mead mitigating some damage and your armor doing the rest

it's super weird to me that literally all of the enemies there except the warlock do pure physical

[smoky quarry]

maybe a shield that gives fire res would make sense, in Nord equipment maybe

[azure yacht]

To increase people's whining for feather cape's fire weakness? Better not...

And removing the weakness shouldn't be an option, I like that nerf. That cape was way too powerful

[thorn wren]

If people are going to whine that ASHLANDS creatures do FIRE damage, then let them. That's like saying complaining about the only snow biome requiring dealing with the cold.

[tiny tiger]

Second cultist I killed gave me the trophy lets gooooo

Last time it took us 30+ cultists lol

[half dragon]

same... also got a 2nd trophy from about 10th kill. Sorry everyone who took a bit longer to get it, it's my fault

[tiny tiger]

Bro stole all the cultist trophies

[azure yacht]

Yeah, but the main issue is others have to deal with that shit.

If they were to die 100000 to that, cool, no one cares, their problem...

But it's everyone else who has to keep reading that incessant crying over a completely logical thing.

No matter how much you try to ignore it, it is still annoying

[thorn wren]

Make a good response to the comment once, pin it, if complaint comes up ---> 📌

Complaints are fine, complaining about a challenging game providing challenges that are specific to their biome's theme is very silly

[stiff yew]

My audio has random skips anyone know why

[hearty niche]

Yeah I wouldn't complain if they bumped the spawn rate on that one.

[hearty niche]

Sound FX or music?

[vocal rivet]

10% should be enough.

[stiff yew]

Music at least for now

[hearty niche]

Do they respawn in the caves? I'd think 10% would be enough if there were more cultists in the world - I think I've seen as many as 6 cultists in a single cave but have found far more that had none.

[thorn wren]

honestly this is kinda fixed with the Hildir stuff though.
Once you clear those they are added to the possible raids. So I mean

You'll get them trophies! Crank that raid frequency!

[hearty niche]

Right but then you also gotta roll the dice hoping for the raid. I'm just sayin it always seems like a real slog whenever I go to look for one and very much would prefer "more cultists" to increase the effective drop rate over increasing the drop rate.

I haven't really tried the Fenris armor post-plains

Wind cape + Fenris armor is fun.

[paper marsh]

Fenris is very good with mage playstyle

[stiff yew]

It really is annoying that the devs don't put in more quality of life stuff

Like why isn't food ordered by stats

It's all in 'alphabetical order' which isn't even alphabetical order.

[storm fractal]

what's the current maximum comfort?

[stiff yew]

24 mins?

[hearty niche]

26 with a yule tree and maypole

... does the yule tree give comfort all year round or is it just during winter time? IF I left my Christmas tree up all year, I'd feel self conscious and it would def detract from my comfort.

[vocal rivet]

If its there, you get the comfort.

[stiff yew]

I have my Maypole.

I remember tree kept functioning, but a Giant broke it and I was upset since it was out of season.

Currently I have level 17 Rest, wonder what I'm missing..

[vocal rivet]

Is your hot tub on?

[storm fractal]

A troll?

[hearty niche]

If you were just walking in a crypt and saw an immaculately stacked pile of bones - that'd freak you out a bit, right?

[paper marsh]

a bit, yea

[thorn wren]

better than ordering the list of foods, I'd really love to not have to craft each individually.

[azure yacht]

It is in alphabetical order... Based on the prefab IDs

[stiff yew]

Yes, uggh

Okay, but.. why? Why not put a little thoughtful code into it? I mean, I understand the UI's meant to be basic, but the code behind it doesn't have to be, too..

[azure yacht]

"and why is not in-game alph-"

Probably because the prefab IDs are always the same in every single language, but not all languages use the same alphabet. This makes it so it's always the exact same order no matter the language

[azure yacht]

Called it

[stiff yew]

wat?

I don't want it to be alphabetical. Nobody does. People (I'd safely assume) want it to be in order of tier.

[hearty niche]

Yeah or some kind of grouping or something? When it's just a few items it's not bad but once it gets >20 it gets unwieldy.

[stiff yew]

Ex-ACT-ly.

[azure yacht]

I prefer to question their decision on naming stuff instead

[stiff yew]

Sorry YES a Troll. Threw a giant rock over my elevated wall.

[azure yacht]

The helmets could've been ArmorHelmet so they're grouped alongside the chest and legs pieces

[stiff yew]

That'd be nice.

[azure yacht]

But they went for only Helmet instead and now they're much lower in the list...

[stiff yew]

Armour1 1Leather Helmet
Armour2 1Troll Helmet
Armour3 3Bronze Helmet

Then if you say Armour1 2Leather Chestpiece, then it'll slip in between the leather helmet and troll helmet.

Oh my god we've done their jobs for them :U

I'm sure there's an even better naming scheme

[hearty niche]

There's a pattern where you create an alpha-sort key. I haven't don emuch gamedev but have made a great many multi-column list boxes with varied sort requirements in my time.

[stiff yew]

God I wish I could just automatically make myself known as some quality of life advisor for hire and sell all these magnificent ideas.. :U

[hearty niche]

The devs are aware of most of them, I think its just a matter of other priorties being higher

[stiff yew]

I mean, I'm sure that it could literally be done within an hour and make thousands of people happy.

Maybe two, tops..

[vocal rivet]

That's why you're not a dev.

[hearty niche]

Coding the fix is just one facet of it. Ya gotta test it. Releasing it is it's own fun process.

[azure yacht]

ArmorHelmetLeather
ArmorHelmetTroll
ArmorHelmetBronze

I really don't know how they thought current prefab naming was more efficient...

It's not like there are more than one troll head piece or bronze

[valid minnow]

what am i supposed to do if i died miles away from spawn and i have no boat

[azure yacht]

And even if they thought that there could be, just adding an extra suffix would've been enough.

The point is that the first two or three words could've been the same

[hearty niche]

Do you have a pickaxe?

[valid minnow]

ye

[vocal rivet]

Make a boat.

[crisp portal]

The long naked sailing when you died and there's no portal nearby... typical valheim experience

[valid minnow]

console commands it is 👍

[vocal rivet]

Either way it helps noone using something other than English.

[valid minnow]

i am not spending 2 hours just to have a chance to get my stuff back

[potent void]

Hi everyone, what I’m about to say might have already been discussed, but aren't you tired of having to rummage through all your chests to craft? Especially for cooking. Do you know if the devs are planning an update so that when a chest is near a workstation, its contents are usable without having to fetch the item from the chest?

[stiff yew]

Well, if you have "ArmourHelmetTroll" "ArmourChestTroll" "ArmourPantsTroll" they'd be out of order.. right? :f

[vocal rivet]

Why not spend 30 minutes with a guaranteed chance?

[azure yacht]

In what way?

[valid minnow]

wdym

[azure yacht]

Certainly been grouped together even if in not perfect order is much better than how it is currently

[vocal rivet]

It won't take you an hour to do a corpse run.

[tiny tiger]

Just had my first death in over 40 days, bonus points if you can guess what enemy killed me

[vocal rivet]

Tree.

[tiny tiger]

Nope

[crisp portal]

The idea seems useful at first, but you get used to it. I like to fetch them myself, even if I forget one or two ingredients

[stiff yew]

Yes true but if you're going to do it, may as well name them in a format that orders them correctly Helmet, Chest, Pants

[valid minnow]

neck

[hearty niche]

Smoke.

[tiny tiger]

I’ll give you a hint, it’s sticky

[valid minnow]

blob

[tiny tiger]

Getting closer

[crisp portal]

the water in the ashlands (too hot for my taste)

[crisp portal]

saw that too late tho... "tar mosters". growth?!

[tiny tiger]

Ding ding ding

[stiff yew]

Item warehousing would be really nice..

[tiny tiger]

god damn growths are my worst nightmare

[valid minnow]

u got to plains in 40 days? 💀

[earnest ridge]

Is it just me, or do Events keep happen more often now? I feel like I have one every our or so.
So far I've been invaded by bats, summon undead just today. Did sometjhing get updated? Happened all week.

[tiny tiger]

no my last death was day 81, I’m on day 130 now

[stiff yew]

I honestly just wish you could label chests.. not with signs, but, with proper labels on the chest.

[crisp portal]

Dont be mean to them, they are lovely, helped me clear many fulling villages

[potent void]

It was fun at the early game but now... It's becoming really complicated, and on top of that, the cooking recipes are not sorted nor sortable... I find that cooking in the game has really become a nightmare.

[tiny tiger]

I meant the gap between this death and my last was 40 days

[stiff yew]

I got to the plains in one day :U

[strange arrow]

how do you even die to a tar blob

[crisp portal]

I hope that they change that crafting system TBH, that is so desorganized that is a pain for anyone' eyes

[stiff yew]

... didn't go so well for me though :U

[stiff yew]

That's exactly what I just came here about.

[crisp portal]

its mostly lucky and "afk" events, else you are ahaving a bad week

[stiff yew]

It's so shit I just go to the Wiki and sort it there, then look for the name ingame.

[potent void]

Yeah i totally agree with you The automatic organization of items is super convenient, but we need more at the level we're at

[strange arrow]

even worse when yr trying to find things in nocost

[crisp portal]

i'm making a suggestion on this rn hehe

[earnest ridge]

AFK events?

[potent void]

yeah me too ! Lord Dev if you ear us ! 🙏🏻

[vocal rivet]

There's a chance every 46 minutes on standard settings. It's just RNG.

[crisp portal]

In a way that events only happen when you are at base "afk-ing" you know, just bulding or so

[strange arrow]

*scrolls down 300 items and still misses the one i was looking for, starts scrolling again... 😩 *

[earnest ridge]

I swear its happened twice in a row

I usually go days without events

[strange arrow]

my group once had the raid trigger 5 times in a row

[vocal rivet]

Define twice in a row.

[unique onyx]

you can go most of a play through without seeing one if you're very active and somewhat lucky when at base

[azure yacht]

Yes, that's RNG

You're literally describing the intended behaviour of RNG

[strange arrow]

gotta say tho if yr used to not getting raided often and then you get a few in succession it does make you question it

[fair cairn]

i had not been raided for like 40 days and then suddenly i had 4 in a row, 3 of which troll raids and 1 a slime raid

[tight yacht]

Can wolves protect themselves from raids?

[strange arrow]

nah

[tight yacht]

Or do they get dumpstered

[azure yacht]

Classic

[unique onyx]

they do alright till they don't, lol

[strange arrow]

if you have the wolves in small packs they usually own anything that spawns

[tight yacht]

How do you keep them in packs

[strange arrow]

even better if you have them in meadows or forest terrain so they can find their own food and heal up after

[strange arrow]

using the follow/stay commands

[tight yacht]

I need to get my boar farm working first before I even consider wolves

Then maybe I'll consider a lox farm outside the walls but idk if that's worth it or even feasible

[strange arrow]

it is if you make the wall a bit thicker

[tight yacht]

You've seen the wall around my base right

[strange arrow]

their stomp will do significant damage to anything the other side with only 1 layer thick

[tight yacht]

I'm talking like way outside my wall, across the moat

Basically in a 'pen' on their own

[strange arrow]

if there's another terrain barrier then it's fine

if you want them right up to the wall tho i'd suggest making it 3 layers thick then the damage will be minimal/none

[crisp portal]

Done.... xD

[crisp portal]

and what about the new introduces items... you think they will be easy, but nooo hecking lost them three times trying to find something else xD

[strange arrow]

same with log trolls, they have such a big swing that a 1 layer wall with a building behind it is gonna get smashed up but with a thicker wall hardly any damage gets through

[crisp portal]

Tamed ones will attack any creature that they laid their eyes on other than wild wolves

[regal spoke]

The log boys were what made my mind up to make earth wall perimeters

[tight yacht]

What do you mean layers? I was planning on using raised dirt

[strange arrow]

yeh the raised earth, but raising it in a line makes 1 layer, 2 lines together, 2 layer, etc

[regal spoke]

So like 4 meters thick say?

[strange arrow]

3 layers would be 6m, that's the recommended

[regal spoke]

High and tight with sheer faces ofc

[tiny tiger]

Is it better to make moats or walls ?

[near saddle]

moats are free to build but take longer

you can shoot over a moat, but they can too

[strange arrow]

moats don't offer much protection against flyers

[tiny tiger]

Im planning on making a big base in the plains

[near saddle]

neither do walls lol

[tiny tiger]

Tbh I’m considering making both just so it’s easier to shoot at them with a gap between the wall and the enemy

[near saddle]

imo a combination of moat + stone wall is best

[ember panther]

Moats are great if you're actually close to water and can fill it. Enemies cant swim well and get stuck there.

[regal spoke]

All the more reason to have farms separate from main builds. Or just build on an island 🏝️

[near saddle]

they work well even without water, but it's true water makes them stronger

[strange arrow]

walls at least offer protection against the flyers seeing you immediately but ofc that doesn't matter for raid mobs

[tight yacht]

This is to prevent trolls from being able to hit through it?

[near saddle]

ashlands are an island, would not recommend building there

[strange arrow]

lox stomps as well

[ember panther]

It's actually pretty great to build in fortresses. One of my new favorite bases

[strange arrow]

the forts are good options if you can take them

or near the boss area

[regal spoke]

Nah like a plains island far enough from a continent that raids won't occur. Well they trigger but only skeleton raids will make landfall if shallow areas are available

[near saddle]

you repaired a ruin or an inhabited fortress?

[tight yacht]

I do both since enemies get trapped in the moat and are easy to shoot, but a wall also helps prevent blobs from jumping and stops people from shooting you. It also can catch squitos and other fliers and can get some kills via fires/spikes on top when they try to fly over

[near saddle]

nope, you can't build inside, which means you can't spawnproof

[tight yacht]

Plus you can make walls look cool, even raised earth ones

[strange arrow]

did you not read? "near"

[tight yacht]

Embed stone into it to make it look like an old stone wall

[regal spoke]

Seems fortress in Ashlands is the way to go for a build. So I've heard

[near saddle]

that just makes it like building in any other location

[strange arrow]

yes, aside from that it's convenient to be near the boss for when you fight

you can usually find some ruins or even a close fort

[tiny tiger]

Refighting bosses seem like a good way to gain weapon skill exp

Bonemass in particular

I levelled up 3 times in my first fight with him from like 31 to 34

[strange arrow]

the grapevine has spoken

[ember panther]

We took a fort and dug down deep and built tall. Got ground level, ceiling top floor and a basement with everything we need. Also nothing damages the walls so you're pretty safe

Shield generator gives a bubble just big enough for it too

[regal spoke]

I got a long road to get to the Ashlands. Started a fresh character

Yea Mechanic YT spoiled that a bit for me. Intended on going blind. But now I know some things. Fook

[tiny tiger]

If I could go back I would have played the game blind instead of watching damn near every video about it

[regal spoke]

I usually stick to build videos for inspiration. Or some combat and gear related stuff to understand mechanics better

[crisp portal]

it protects the vines as well?!

[tight yacht]

After getting slaughtered in the plains to establish my final base, this isn't such a bad idea...it's either this or hunt lox to extinction in my area to grind up my skills again

[crisp portal]

I didn't spoil me other than the update animated video xD

[ember panther]

Strangely enough, you can't grow vines there

[tight yacht]

I've never made an endgame base or progressed past plains. This run I'm doing both

[idle moon]

can you only grow vines on the regular stone walls?

[crisp portal]

indeed makes no sense. they are wild to the warm nature of the ashlands... why can't seeds grow there? even if protected

[crisp portal]

I hope not, Because I planted mine near wood walls

[ember panther]

Tbh I haven't been growing them successfully. My friend says they're real finicky. Need to be just close enough to a wall and needs open sky, cultivated soil and space

I wish we were unable to plant them if the conditions are not met. Kinda like placing a kiln or whatever

[timid sun]

I'm almost positive in our previous playthrough we had some vines growing in the Ashlands.

[crisp portal]

Unlike the magic shrooms and plain's crops I wasted planting on my meadow base, I just lost some vines planting them on empty space...(I lost around 8 seeds) but I have other 10 near a wood wall (it says healthy)

[idle moon]

I didn't really mess with planting them - had some other people in my playthrough that liked doing the farming stuff - but they said that they couldn't get them to grow on grausten walls

[regal spoke]

Been playing since year one. Still haven't defeated mist boss. Countless seeds and characters. Spent my time building exploring and enjoying the world lol

[timid sun]

I think I've completed at least 30 full playthroughs in around 1,700 hours played. Some of those were "speedruns" though the speedrunning community would not consider them that I'm sure.

[buoyant ether]

what QoL mods would yall recommend for a first solo playthru?

[timid sun]

First solo playthrough = no mods. Start modding after you suffer 😉

[merry pebble]

none if its your first playthrough 🙂 but if you really want some then someone in #mods-discussion will probably know which ones 😄

[buoyant ether]

well ill be damned, challenge accepted 😏

[crisp portal]

first ever? No mods. It breaks the understanding of how the mechanics and all work... after a few hours and biomes ahead, sure try as many as you wish

[buoyant ether]

ive killed the first boss, hauled my ass to the edge of black forest and about to start gamin

[mossy river]

If it breaks your understanding of how mechanics work, I'm pretty sure that's more than a QOL mod.

[regal spoke]

Hp still plays a role in blocking correct

[timid sun]

Sure does

[ember panther]

Iirc you only get staggered if the attack were to do 50% of your max hp

[crisp portal]

Sure, some QOL does not impact as much ( I missread) but at first, I rather zero mods

[thorn wren]

ValheimSimpleAutoSort by Mokutan --- dm if you want the string for this, you need to add each item's internal IDs but this helps massively with organization.
MassFarming by k942 --- just for AOE planting and harvesting. This keeps the stamina costs so planting 25 plants in a 5x5 at once will cost you ~130 stamina
ValheimPlus_Grantapher_Temporary by Grantapher--- This has all sorts of stuff but the thing I use it for is making it so workbenches check nearby chests for materials and to enable my Charcoal Kiln, Furnace, Blast Furnace, Spinning Wheel, Windmill, and Refinery all auto-pull from nearby chests and also PUSH to nearby chests so things don't just poop out onto the floor if you have a chest near them with space.

Extra, very unnecessary convenience:
Better_Wisps by Digitalroot --- makes it so you can upgrade the Wisplight in Mistlands at the cost of more wisps and a lot of silver.
Sated by Crystal --- changes the food curve a little so it's more backloaded. If you have 30 minute food you'll notice you've lost a lot by the 15 min marker, with sated that loss starts later, closer to the 5 min marker, but is more sharp.

[barren oar]

what unlocks the portal

[tight yacht]

I've always been limited by my meadow starter base. Only now I've actually buckled in and made a proper one when the time came

[merry pebble]

fine wood, greydwarf eyes and surtling core

[crisp portal]

I played it vanilla until mountains or so, iirc... and mostly because of farming

[crisp portal]

20, 10, 2 respectively

[stiff yew]

https://i.imgur.com/sZN4HKS.png

[merry pebble]

yep, but for unlocking one of each is enough 🙂

[stiff yew]

.. aww.. cannot post pics here, man this discord sucks ;f

[merry pebble]

we have #screenshots 😉 tho everything on this server should be valheim related

[stiff yew]

:U

[crisp portal]

My bad I'm "twist" reading everything today Oh My!

[merry pebble]

oh no worries 😄 happens to me all the time too

[stiff yew]

Done :u

Don't cut my log pls.. I've written many things upon it.

[subtle perch]

if you parry a seeker with blackmetal shield you can trishot it in three sword hits!!

[stiff yew]

Why does Blackmetal matter

Aren't all Parry windows the same no matter what's used?

[timid sun]

A shield? I parry them with my rock hard viking abs then wake up in my bed again.

[crisp portal]

Is it the combination of the block stats of a shield + health, right?

[thorn wren]

Pretty sure it's just your armor, shield just adds from "block armor" and block skill adds as well
health plays a role though yea

[ember panther]

Yea but idk if a silver shield would do it

[stiff yew]

Why

[thorn wren]

less armor

[merry pebble]

because its from 2 biomes before misttlands?

[stiff yew]

I'm referring to the part where he states a Black metal shield' is required specifically to be able to make a full sword combo on a Seeker.

[merry pebble]

and they answered that they indeed know that any shield has the same parry window, but they are not sure if earlier shield (silver one in this case) would be sufficient to parry a seeker 🙂

[stiff yew]

Ah, makes more sense.

Okay cool, was worried some change happened.

[subtle perch]

parry force gets stronger

less stamina use

[thorn wren]

IIRC, parry force doesn't matter what-so-ever when it comes to actually blocking or parrying an attack. It is purely how far an enemy will be knocked back afterward

[wet nacelle]

Looking for some help from someone else using a Nitrado server. I am trying to use world modifiers. I have change the FWL file, and uploaded the new one to the SaveData directory. But it isn't working. From what I can tell, a new default FWL file overwrites it. Is there anything I can do?

[merry pebble]

#dedicated-server might help you more 🙂

[wet nacelle]

Cheers

[subtle perch]

yes finally the serpent trophy

dude came into the beach to eat me

[buoyant ether]

so its not smart to build next to black forest ?

or thick forest area in general

[merry pebble]

it is fine if you dont mind rock throwing neighbours 😄

[storm fractal]

can I put anything other than payload in a catapult?

[merry pebble]

i believe you can 🙂 yeah

[storm fractal]

nothing I tried fits

[ember panther]

Test it out. I think you can use stones or even vikings

[azure yacht]

Almost anything

[timid sun]

Personally it's my go-to spot for my first small base. But I'm also a bit more experienced I guess?

[storm fractal]

grausten, charred bones and ashwood don't work

and I can't force launch it I guess(I want to launch myself)

[timid sun]

It was a wonderful experience when my friend launched his bow on accident and it was lost for all time 😄

[azure yacht]

Use normal stone

[storm fractal]

too bad I'm not near my base and without a pickaxe :(

[stiff yew]

Isn't that just the type of shield though, round being 1.5 and buckler being 2.5, or does armour scale this too

[subtle perch]

on the other hand seeker two stars is not parryable

[stiff yew]

Wait what

Interesting

[subtle perch]

i mean it is

but the parry force required is extremely high, and he almost onehsotted me

[ember panther]

Kill it or walk very far away

[timid sun]

Did some maths and I'm pretty sure with a quality 2 carapace buckler you should be perfectly fine so long as you parry. Not tested in-game, and I can't recall experiences testing it off the top of my head, but the math be mathing at least!

Also you might be fine with lesser shields as well, but I'm not doing math on everything <-<

Edit: this also requires at least like 110+ health or something like that. Edit again, bit off on the health. It's like 160+

[paper marsh]

Yea unless you're on Vhard 2 star seekers are plenty parryable

[stiff yew]

Ah

So they CAN be parried.. just if you're playing the hardest difficulty, they still one-shot you given the armour value doesn't go high enough?

[paper marsh]

ehhh not so much oneshotting, more just when enemies do a lot of damage even if you time your parry right, it will cancel your parry and stagger you

[stiff yew]

Ah.

[paper marsh]

vhard 2 star seekers I'm not sure you can parry without a magic bubble shield, but you can tank them

If pierce resist helps with parrying then you can prob parry them

[stiff yew]

Right I forgot about the player stagger part.

Wait does player stagger happen when normal blocking

Mkay. Been a while, need to brush up on mechanics again for Ashlands

[storm fractal]

which gem is the best for an ash fang bow?

[paper marsh]

lightning or nature. Lightning for damage (that's what most like), nature if you wanna immobilize enemies

[sharp bluff]

blood can be extremely strong but you have to make sacrifices in the durability department xd

[paper marsh]

I'd disagree, other than on sneak attack (especially with crossbow)

[idle moon]

I wasn't aware of a real use for blood outside of cheesing by wasting foods for sneak attacks with crossbow

[paper marsh]

I do really love the idea of blood, but 60% extra damage doesn't seem that significant to me, especially when it's replacing a good chunk of lightning damage and requires you managing your health a lot to keep it low but not dead

[frigid gust]

I saw someone using an (expensive) bukeperry strat... eat the berries to get to low health, then eat a bunch of good food and fire before you regen

[paper marsh]

I did that for the Ashland boss, also throwing in some tasty meads to prevent regen. Blood Greatsword 3 hp food build was actually a lot of fun

[sharp bluff]

its several times higher than the lightning

root is, of course, completely broken in certain cases

turns out cc is king...

[paper marsh]

Yes

But I don't find it to be a particularly strong amount. I'd like them to buff blood to 3% per hp lost, I feel like it would start becoming more worth it then, for other weapons than crossbow

[sharp bluff]

even at like 80% blood outdamages, and it increases from there
problem is managing your hp without getting clapped

at 3% per hp the weapon would be omegabroken

like, not just "strong" or "the best" but "literally twice as strong as the second best"

[paper marsh]

eh, I don't think sacrificing all your stamina for weapon damage, and having to swerve the line between life and death is adequately compensated. You get like 35-40% or so more damage than a lightning weapon

which is a nice buff, sure, and I do use blood weapons a lot because they're fun, but I don't think that's a fair tradeoff (ofc that % depends on the weapon, the above is for Berserkir axes)

[sharp bluff]

33% is a LOT
hell, in souls games you drop to 30% hp for less (except in DS one where RST is considered omegabroken)

also, just use dyrnwyn for the lulz

[paper marsh]

I find it not to be a 33% dps increase though, because I have less stamina so I'm not attacking as frequently even with askvin armor and ashen cape on

[sharp bluff]

less stamina? pls

are we vikings or some brits? low hp is where its at

[paper marsh]

I do love me some low hp

[sharp bluff]

but thats compared to nidhögg anyway
to beat dyrnwyn you'd need to be really low
roughly 2/3rds just to be even

[paper marsh]

But there's a reason blood weapons aren't popular

[idle moon]

Are you guys satisfied with blood weapons as they are then?

[sharp bluff]

im fine with em

[paper marsh]

I think the concept of how blood weapons work is perfectly fine, but I think they could use a little buff

[sharp bluff]

now if only there were a frostner upgrade for ashlands...

[idle moon]

I was thinking they might have some frost gem type thing in the deep north

[paper marsh]

We will see

[sharp bluff]

also spears are smh still useless by hitbox alone

[paper marsh]

I'd kill to be able to backstab people with a blood knife

Spears are alright, their main drawbacks is just their ranged attack being overshadowed by how OP bows are, and pierce damage being meh

[sharp bluff]

the problem is also that they arent a weapon on slopes

[toxic mason]

Magic is by far the most OP thing in Valheim

[idle moon]

pierce damage is awful in late game

[timid sun]

I'd like spears to be good, they are my favorite weapons to use just not many situations when they are the best to use.

[sharp bluff]

easiest? yes
best? no

[timid sun]

Until they add magic into the game earlier than Mistlands I will still continue to not use it 😄

[paper marsh]

Most weapons aren’t. Spears is the only melee weapon that can have perfect sloped combat though, but only by throwing

[toxic mason]

Said neither. It is overpowered for the amount of effort it takes to make it.

I have level 50 of 3 weapons and my level 15 magic is still better

[paper marsh]

Best depends on your definition

[sharp bluff]

and its easier to wreck enemies in melee once you get the hang of it

[timid sun]

And also I'd like them to revisit how you gain exp and level skills as well. Some of them are... Terrible.

[sharp bluff]

like the trollstav? xd

[ember panther]

I havent dabbled much with magic.My group all play different roles. I'm usually the travel guide, carrying light armor and materials for portals, etc. Then we got a tank player who just parries and swords everything and then our mage that bubbles us. Sometimes we get our 4th who mostly just builds

[timid sun]

I've messed around with it just because but in a standard playthrough of the game you almost definitely don't play long enough to properly level magic since you don't get it until Mistlands. Like congrats, you made it far into the game and now we're going to present you with a new combat style! Maybe some people would like to choose to be a mage at the start 😉

[fossil delta]

They only added magic to the game due to fan demand. It was not part of their original plan.

[ember panther]

If I were to use magic I'd prepare myself for a new playthrough and bring the materials needed to maintain it. Would probably be too OP tho

[timid sun]

Now we just need to demand they add it in earlier! Ez 😄

[toxic mason]

I do prefer the game without it. I'm just saying that on a server of 4 people, me and the other melee guy ain't doing shit compared to the mages

And we're better at the game than the mages are lol

[regal spoke]

That's accurate?

[ember panther]

I like elemental damage on my weapons. If that scaled via elemental magic that'd be neat

[fossil delta]

Yes.

I hung out around here for years. Then dropped off the group about 15 months ago, rejoined a few weeks ago.

[timid sun]

You either gotta step your game up or you got some legit mage friends. Anyone I've played with all stopped using magic because they were getting rocked while watching me moonwalk through the enemies. I'm smooth with it though

[regal spoke]

Welcome back then.

[timid sun]

I dropped off during the January incident. I just wasn't playing at the time so I didn't bother to rejoin until now ;P

[fossil delta]

So I have actually talked with a couple of the developers in the voice channels, in addition to just seeing what they posted in this channel.

[ember panther]

January incident..?

[fossil delta]

No, I just took a break. I had over 4,200 hours of play time at that time.

[timid sun]

Sounds like you needed a break tbh xD I just do a few playthroughs every update then let it rest while I play other games and wait for the next update. This is probably the only game that I drop everything else for when it does update though

[median willow]

Any leaks or speculation on next update? or 1.0 for that matter?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, so far this is easily my all time favorite game. Without using mods, etc... too.

[toxic mason]

Yeah... but its silly that we have lightning and fire but not ice.

[timid sun]

Yeah, I've played almost entirely mod free for all of my hours aside from one server where they had some quality of life stuff.

[fossil delta]

Only 1 biome to go, so they will probably be wrapping up in around or about 15 months from now.

[timid sun]

1 biome and 2 bosses

[regal spoke]

Potential of 2 biomes. Seen some mention of ocean

[median willow]

fuck me, friends wont play till 1.0

[timid sun]

Get better friends

[fossil delta]

I don't think they mean the ocean was going to like get its own full treatment. I think things like the new serpent are what they meant.

[median willow]

I respect the wait for 1.0

[fossil delta]

Quality over speed...

[timid sun]

My theory is that we summon the final boss from the sacrificial stones. But who knows 😄

[regal spoke]

I see that makes sense. I'm stoked on the game bar none. Whatever extras we get are blessing

[fossil delta]

That does make sense.

Well, I am goiing to go and actually play. I have like 5 silver nodes worth of silver to bring down off the mtn and get back to our base. Well, 6, since one was a double node.

[ember panther]

We got frostner and frost arrows

[timid sun]

I am a big fan of the toss the cart off the side of the mountain method. Works like a charm!

[fossil delta]

I will probably do that. We have a nice shear side on this mtn, right above a BF.

I could probably just toss them, but then I might have to search in the forest.

[toxic mason]

Right, but first of all, it's kinda dumb that they added the ability to imbue weapons with fire... in a fire biome and not ice.

And secondly it feels bad that you can only add it to a level 1 item and have to upgrade it from there.

[ember panther]

And maxes out at level 2

[toxic mason]

Yeah. And the mats for it are hard capped by 20 citadels per Ashlands area

Was also looking forward to using ceramic plates in my armor in conjunction with flametal but I guess not.

[vocal rivet]

20 fortresses per world.

[toxic mason]

Yeah I don't world jump with characters. 1 world 1 character.

[vocal rivet]

Nor do I.

Though I'm not sure why you bought that up.

[kindred urchin]

Man, wood ladders are still a broken mess huh?

[vocal rivet]

Never have been.

[kindred urchin]

haven't changed since I played in '21 far as I can tell

still can't hardly climb them

used to be mods to fix the issue

[vocal rivet]

Why on Earth would you need a mod to climb a ladder?

[near saddle]

best ashlands weapon? deciding between the mace or sword

[kindred urchin]

if you've used the wooden ladder build piece, you'd know. it's not a smooth climbing animation

[nocturne wolf]

The mace is very good for pushing starred warriors (and lord reto if you haven’t killed him yet)

[vocal rivet]

I've never had an issue with it.

[near saddle]

oh, I don't really like the knockback

so the sword would be better? or how about the axes?

[kindred urchin]

This is more confusing than anything I've stated so far. Surprised you don't know what i'm talking about

[hidden gorge]

you've never pressed forward and not moved at all? or went too far over the edge when you only wanted to get to the top?

[kindred urchin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RUlPM7hUjfQ?si=SRXmErM-pHlZxfFh

[slender rover]

It's probably in vain at this point, but I hope to one day have vertical ladder pieces that function like those on the ships

[vocal rivet]

No?

[kindred urchin]

Not my video, but that's how wooden ladders work in game

[vocal rivet]

I've played the game thanks.

[kindred urchin]

Trying to discuss something here, not be passive agressive.

I'm just surprised it hasn't been fixed yet.

[hidden gorge]

I'm not

[vocal rivet]

I'm surprised you find it an issue, but there you go.

[nocturne wolf]

That video just shows a player failing to dodge skeletons a few times. A different climb animation wouldn’t change that.

[slender rover]

I believe Smiffe previously commented before that this was a compromise workaround because the engine gave some difficulty

[kindred urchin]

ah, engine problem. That'll do it.

[hidden gorge]

I'm suprised you don't, Derek -- I thought it was a pretty universal experience interacting with the janky stairs. But I guess not

[kindred urchin]

There were/are? mods that fix it, but i havent grabbed one

[livid widget]

What triggers the weird bat raids?

[slender rover]

Killing any bat in the world

[nocturne wolf]

Killing a weird bat (why are the bats weird?)

[kindred urchin]

bat raid! screee!

[livid widget]

It's weird cause they just started coming out of nowhere and don't seem related to other raids and their bosses

[kindred urchin]

was mostly referring to the janky climbing.

[livid widget]

Felt very random.

[kindred urchin]

few video examples for such a common problem.

[slender rover]

Re: ladders, found the Smiffe post: #suggestion-discussion message

[kindred urchin]

Cheers.

can't tell you how many times my character derped over the edge of a ladder when nearing the top

[vocal rivet]

Bleh, can't see that one.

[hidden gorge]

I wouldn't necessarily blame the engine -- stairs can be difficult, because their behavior needs to be determined by the game developers coding the movement of character objects; ie. there is no "standard" ladder movement system engines provide that lots of games share, because they often have different nuances in how their characters move

[kindred urchin]

I'll just have to use a different build piece, then. I've been away from the game a few years, so i'm remembering how to build

[slender rover]

I am just repeating what the staff said. It surprised me a bit that this isn't a readily solvable issue but it may be the way the player models are implemented.

I try to avoid ladders, but the new grausten steep stairs are so useful it's hard

One tip: you can use 45 degree roof pieces to get the same climb angle and run up them smoothly

[thorn wren]

So... crossbows are just strictly better than bows?
I'm asking --- cus from what I've seen the bow stamina drain continues to get higher per second as you get better bows, but crossbows don't consume any stamina what-so-ever... and they hit quite hard.
You can't regen stamina while it is reloading --- but I feel like that is significantly less stamina overall than you spend full drawing each arrow with a bow

[vale adder]

hey, im looking for someone to play with. Ive completed the game once before the ashlands update. And I just killed the first boss on a new save. I'd be more than happy to play with anyone really. 🙂

[ember panther]

Ehh I think bows do better dps. I use crossbow mainly for sneak attack sniping1

[livid widget]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[thorn wren]

Do they even do better dps though? I wanna say I remember my mistlands crossbow doing almost 2x the damage the mistlands bow
Seems about right, you can probably do 2 full draws per 1 xbow shot

but the stamina difference is pretty significant

[nocturne wolf]

I think walking while drawing a bow is faster than walking with a reloading crossbow, and you can jump or roll while drawing a bow

[ember panther]

Depends on your bow skill. At level 70+ the draw starts getting really fast.

[thorn wren]

right but you are draining stamina the entire time with the bow VS no stamina drain with xbow

that's fair, but to have over 50 bow skill you must have been maining it for a while and... frankly, suffering xD

[nocturne wolf]

That’s only an issue if you keep the bow drawn for longer than you need to

[nimble turret]

i just went afk at my graydwarf farm overnight. I wake up to seeing like 50 charred twitchers running around. Why is this happening? (im also scared)

[nocturne wolf]

Can you be raided at your farm?

[nimble turret]

I think so but there's so many of them. Like way to many

[livid widget]

Haven't tamed a lox yet, but can you put saddle bags on 'em and haul ore?

[nocturne wolf]

No. You should be able to ride them while encumbered, but I haven’t tried it.

[livid widget]

Disappointing.

[vocal rivet]

You can, that's kinda the point of them.

[nimble turret]

Does anyone want to see this. Ill share my screen i geuninly think theres like a hundred.

[nocturne wolf]

You can put a screenshot in #valheim-help or #screenshots

[nimble turret]

I put it in screen shots

theres also like 20 behind me off camera

[azure yacht]

They deal purely physical damage, bows have elemental arrows

And are slower, even at low level bows shoot fast

[nocturne wolf]

Looks like you got the spawner raid while afk

[nimble turret]

Ig so but i think ive seen 3 spawners

so would that mean 3 diffrent spanwer raids?

[nocturne wolf]

I think one raid has 3 spawners

[nimble turret]

Thats insane lmao. How do i make it so raids dont happen while afking?

[vocal rivet]

AFK less?

Change your world modifiers?

[azure yacht]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/World_Modifiers

[nocturne wolf]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Player_base keep these pieces away from your afk spot

[nimble turret]

I saw in one video having like a portal and no workbench makes it so raids dont happen but idk if thats true

[azure yacht]

Or just remove the player base pieces...

If you keep it at two you won't get raids

[azure yacht]

#valheim-chat message

[nimble turret]

Thanks for the help gonna spend the next 30 minutes cleaning these dudes up

[idle moon]

I was wondering why I sometimes got raids as I was assaulting a fort - looks like it was because I was putting that fancy super portal up nearby before I assaulted it (workbench, stonecutter, super portal)

[livid widget]

What is a super portal?

[scenic flicker]

The new ahslands portal you can tote anything through it

[nocturne wolf]

A stone portal

[livid widget]

Is there an upgraded portal?

Or you mean a portal for moving stone?

[nocturne wolf]

Stone portals can be made with ashlands materials and allow all items through

[livid widget]

OoOOoOoooHHhhh

You mean you can portal ore??

[nocturne wolf]

You can portal anything

[livid widget]

That's hawt

[vocal rivet]

Apart from mobs.

[mossy river]

You can portal ticks 😛

[vocal rivet]

Hah, I guess that's true.

[tight trail]

just got mauled by the wolfs

i was like where the wolf my club want some boing boing

😜

[woeful yacht]

Might want to get your club looked at if it's making a "boing boing" sound

[tight trail]

🐥🍼

[vernal remnant]

bro im new to the swamp and found a jackpot swamp with many crypts, spend 2 days filling longboat with iron, come back and fill two chests by the water with scrap iron while i built a big area for a smelter, come back and chest is gone wtf

[tight trail]

happened once with me if you are on cloud save make sure you keep saving the game

we lost 3 days worth progress

[vernal remnant]

damn sucks

[tight trail]

i am lying

gudnighttt

[woeful yacht]

Did a mob attack it?

[vernal remnant]

idk honestly necks keep destroying my turnips so maybe

i thought stuff dont despawn tho

[woeful yacht]

It usually doesn't, sounds like something odd was going on

[vernal remnant]

haha yeah but at least getting iron is better than copper

i need lots of roots anyway

[tepid prawn]

it doesnt despawn if within a workbench radius, if workbench also got destroyed by mobs it will despawn, happened to me sometime too

[open mortar]

man

ive been doing something wrong, its been 3 days and i cant find yagluth

im going to pull my hair out

[tepid prawn]

only 3 days? imho the hardest boss to find

[open mortar]

did you say only

[vocal rivet]

3 days isn't a long time.

[open mortar]

are you trying to say its going to take a lot longer

[tepid prawn]

95% of the time I found his boss altar before the vegvisir as well

[open mortar]

is it very far away?

[tepid prawn]

where it is depends on your map

[ornate sigil]

if you look for a circle of tall stones, there is likely yag's shrine/alter

[tepid prawn]

but its not uncommon to visit so many plains you;ll have hundreds of blackmetal sometimes (if you clear all the villages) by the time you find him

[open mortar]

i just want to start mistlands and ashlands, this is the first playthrough

[ornate sigil]

due to the way the finder stones (vegvisir) spawn, they are aparently less common on the plains than any other biome.

[tepid prawn]

if you don't mind a spoiler you can use the seed viewer to find Yagluth

[open mortar]

ill spend a bunch more time to find yagluth, if it comes to that point ill use those

[tepid prawn]

you could also look up 2 of the locations where the vegvisir spawns, to learn how that looks ingame so you can identify that from further afar

[open mortar]

i did do that

[tepid prawn]

or one of us here could find a picture, one is a big stone circle, the other is a small structure

[open mortar]

found two large collection of stone henges completely empty

found only one small stone henge

anyways im going to go sleep after hours of sailing and running

[tepid prawn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/ljr9o9/how_to_find_fifth_boss_yagluth_marker/ that is one of them

it doesnt always have it

[open mortar]

if i stumble accross the spawning shrine, does the marker automatically appear on the map?

[tepid prawn]

you still need to click the vegvisir plate

[open mortar]

oh

[tepid prawn]

this is another one https://imgur.com/a/YQJeH13

[open mortar]

meaning its entirely possible i may have walked past it

[tepid prawn]

you can also just mark it yourself

[open mortar]

wait whats that, i haven't been looking out for those 🗿

[smoky quarry]

I found it on the shore line. His whole altar

[open mortar]

i was hoping if i missed it it would've been marked on the map

[tepid prawn]

that one above is rarer, the first one and this one https://imgur.com/tVVE7Kb are the most common, but also sometimes you find them without marker

[spiral compass]

I think they are also in the towers right? or am I wrong?

[open mortar]

porcupine or frostner?

[tepid prawn]

i have not found one in a tower, in 1800h of game time

[smoky quarry]

I found several in towers

[tepid prawn]

to defeat Yag with?

[open mortar]

no, in general for plains

[tepid prawn]

both work quite well

[smoky quarry]

Freeze is rly good vs fast mobs

[open mortar]

i dont plan on going anywhere near yagluth, from what ive seen i shouldnt go melee range towards entities that i dont recognize

[tepid prawn]

I would not recommend fighting Yagluth with a bow, will take very long (of course still possible) , the best weapon by far for him is the silver sword

[open mortar]

wait what

without spoiling, how hard is he to beat melee

[ornate sigil]

easier with melee than with bow

[tepid prawn]

harder than most bosses before him, but easier then the next 2 bosses ^^

[open mortar]

interesting

[open mortar]

💀

[tepid prawn]

but you're not suddenly safe from him if using a bow like with other bosses

[open mortar]

is the jump from plains to mistlands just as big as mistlands to ashlands?

[smoky quarry]

Yagluth is a tough boi

[scenic flicker]

no way ashlands hard

[smoky quarry]

Ashlands is unucorns, rainbows and butterflies

[tepid prawn]

I found it easier from Mist to Ashlands, but lots of people might disagree, you can see better in Ashlands than Mistlands

[open mortar]

ill see, for now i have to find yagluth

[eternal vessel]

Am I just crazy or is finding bones much harder in this version? I swear I remember little dungeons to explore in the meadows, or at the least near dark forest. I also don't remember the skeletons having weapons like a copper sword lol

[ornate sigil]

just be prepared with the usual suspects. health meads, stamina meads, a good weapon or 2, and good armor. the other thing you might not think to bring is ||fire resistance mead/barley wine||

[smoky quarry]

Its nice when you can see

[scenic flicker]

plains to mistlands was fun to fight but mistlands to ahslands tough

[tepid prawn]

my first ever Yagluth fight I brought lots of 2 star tamed wolves 🙂

[open mortar]

taming takes so much effort

[smoky quarry]

Getting to ashlands is a whole new thing compared to the later

[mossy river]

Does attacking monuments of torment aggro dvergr?

[tepid prawn]

its fun running through 3 fuling villages with 50 2 star wolves though

[open mortar]

are they strong enough?

[tepid prawn]

no

[open mortar]

did you say 50

[scenic flicker]

dang idk if i've ever seen 2 star wolves and i have 3000 hrs in lol

[tepid prawn]

yeah xD you do loose some but you also clear the village

[smoky quarry]

Kek i did. Made sure to remember them

[open mortar]

man said 50 😭

[tepid prawn]

only at night, 0% chance to spawn during day (only got 1800h)

[smoky quarry]

They pop out of nowhere & bite.

[open mortar]

good night

[scenic flicker]

2star wolf wounds scary

[ornate sigil]

I remember them having swords/bows/shields even before hearth and home update(prior to mistlands). the dungeons you are likely thinking of are burial chambers. they often have skele(s) and decent drop rate for bones if one has a spawner in it.

[smoky quarry]

Pretty bad if unprepared

[spring raven]

I truly have been sleeping on ooze/bile bombs

[smoky quarry]

Anything with 2 stars makes me think twice

[tight yacht]

Why

I've never used them either

[spring raven]

They help super hard in infested mines

[tepid prawn]

ooze and bile bombs super useful for certain situations especially on very hard or hard world modifiers

[ornate sigil]

poision and/or fire damage as a grenade....very usefull clearing out packed dungeons.

[smoky quarry]

Great vs larvae piles

[tepid prawn]

I saw a youtuber clear an infested mine with a 2 star seeker soldier, 2 x 2 star normal seeker and 1x 1 star normal seeker with the bombs on very hard mode

[spring raven]

ticks are the thing I struggle with and bombs dunk on them

[tepid prawn]

demolisher also good for ticks

[subtle perch]

Uhm .. among all the existing trophies I am able to find so far there are three left: one (??) - which I don't want to know what, seeker - soldier version and another one.

The wrath trophy. Gosh I killed so many of them in swamps but still none

I even have 3x cultist trophy and rancid remains

[vapid hearth]

So far I've only managed to lobotimize three jotuns
Gonna need to find more so I can power up my magic and then finally take on the Mistlands boss so I can FINALLY explore the Ashlands

I can only wonder how the Deep North will set itself apart from the Mountains, unless it ends up essentially being a much more brutal expansion of the Mountains

[tight yacht]

Never tried beyond the default settings...maybe for my next playthrough. I might add mods too if there are good ones worth considering

[tight yacht]

Never been in them but I'll keep this in mind

[river forge]

Crouch and roll, the tick falls off

[tight yacht]

First I need to beat the vanilla game at least once lol (before considering mods)

[hidden gorge]

bombs are a lot more effective than rolling around

[livid widget]

zug zug

[scenic flicker]

101 101

[tepid prawn]

I have never used mods so can't speak about them, I also play on normal world settings 95% of the time, hard and very hard very rarely and I don't change death penalties and portal restrictions, I like the game best with Default settings.

[finite lodge]

how much refined eitr would i need for everything

[azure yacht]

Real question is why would you even craft everything? Even more upgrade it

[woeful yacht]

I plan to

[azure yacht]

Ember staff, protection staff, mage set should all be less than 100 eitr.

Add 32 more for the other two staves which are mostly optional

[woeful yacht]

I want to create an armory hall and display all the armor sets from every biome and have 1 max upgraded of each weapon

[finite lodge]

kind of annoying that i have to go back and farm stuff from the other zones, they encourage clutter

[azure yacht]

I've seen people specifically complaining about older stuff losing relevance and wanting devs to encourage players to go back

Can't please everyone

[finite lodge]

by the time i hit plains it seemed that old stuff should be thrown up rather than take up space, so i decluttered my area, then i get to mistlands and all of a sudden i find out i should have kept it

if theyre gonna make old stuff relevant they should have done it every step of the way, like swamp stuff needs ingredients from meadows and black forest

but i think players would hate that so if theyre demanding old stuff be relevant maybe they havent thought it through lol

thankfully i have a server filled with chests of random stuff from all over the place but sadly no root xD

[vapid hearth]

Just assembled full mage set
Now I just need to raid more dungeons for the Queen and sscretly mug more dorf homes so I don't have to rely on my one sap extractor

Level 21 elemental magic, but have yet to put in a single level on blood magic. I can't wait to rain fire upon the Queen

[foggy glacier]

Props to you if you've crafted all that with just one extractor.

[vapid hearth]

Ahh, thank you very much
I kept sleeping and exploring other mistlands biomes and/or plains for the components I need for additional extractors, and looking for jotuns and mine their brain matter

[worthy turtle]

is there a set amount of entities in a fuling settlement or wtv or do they respawn

[foggy glacier]

they don't respawn, but I'm sure the count of fulings in a camp is variable.

[worthy turtle]

oh okay, i js wanted to know cuz im picking them out one by one

[foggy glacier]

good call. They can get overwhelming if you're not prepared.

I've seen camps with volume ranging from 3 or 4 up close to twenty fulings in it. Last camp I just cleared had three berserkers (one 1*), three shamans and easily a dozen or more regular fulings.

[worthy turtle]

im very underprepared, i just got out of the swamp in terms of progression LOL

i literally cant find a mountain, its so annoying

[worthy turtle]

yeah mine has 3-5 beserkers with 2 of them being stars 😭

[foggy glacier]

Trick is to create yourself an earthen platform 2x3 at least 4-6 high. Climb up on top with your workbench and portal and either kite them up or pick them off with a bow.

if you're careful, you can even use a sledge to clear them out.

[worthy turtle]

i just raised the ground and shot them with a bow, its so easy bc i have a huntsman bow so the others dont get aggro'ed

[vapid hearth]

I love how easy magic makes hunting wabbits

[tiny tiger]

I feel like the further you get into the game the higher priority stamina is

Like upto mountains you can be pretty comfortable with 2 health 1 stamina food but plains+ you are better off running 2 stamina foods 1 health

[drowsy magnet]

not really

[tiny tiger]

How so

[brittle geyser]

use bombs for wabbits

[vapid hearth]

But bombs I need to find materials to craft.

With magic, I just need to lob fireball

[drowsy magnet]

I just never feel the need for 2 stamina foods

bread in the plains is enough for stamina

esp with the Fenris set, you can roam the plains without needing much stamina

[vapid hearth]

If I may ask, how exciting is it generally to find an aqueduct in the mistlands?

[verbal radish]

Is there valkyrie trophy ?

[regal spoke]

Pretty exciting. But how many sections has been found in one area? I think 3 or so is the most I've seen

[drowsy magnet]

yes

[vapid hearth]

Is it? I see
I stopped getting excited over them after the wild structure nerf to acquired materials

[idle moon]

An aquaduct? Are you talking about those broken bridge things?

[vapid hearth]

Yeah, those big ones with marble and iron ingots

[regal spoke]

Structures drop less mats?

[paper marsh]

Yea

[regal spoke]

Would have to turn up drop rate in modifiers to compensate multiplayer servers?

[paper marsh]

Pre built ones drop less than player built. People say that repairing them then dismantling makes them drop full mats but I feel like I’ve tried that and still gotten much less than normal

[regal spoke]

Same
Before Ashlands I didn't build much with marble due to the work it takes to acquire

Repurpose a network of mine structures as shops

[vapid hearth]

I remember previously being able to build a large bridge spanning a large portion of the mistlands I was in with the materials of an aqueduct. Or being able to create three black marble piles out of aqueducts without even completely getting rid of the aqueduct. That was amazing. I miss it ._.

[regal spoke]

I don't fully remember how many stacks from one section. But certainly not a large bridge worth

[vapid hearth]

Oh, it wasn't that large. It was more like enough to be able to create a 2 tile wide platform, mainly for the purposes of navigating the Mistlands' craggy terrain. I hope a mod comes out that restores that previous feature at some point after the release of 1.0

Hmm, I kinda feel like I'll need a barrier staff in order to fully take advantage of magic, since I'm gonna need to consume two magic foods for more extensive magic use and consume one stamina to take advantage of my mobility, leaving my paltry HP at a low number

[regal spoke]

I see

Playing like that on hardcore seems nutty to me. Have to be able to keep bubble up all the time or what? Never played the staves

[paper marsh]

It’s not too bad. I mean I’d say most people find it safer than going heavy on hp, since you can stay at range with magic, slot in some fast gear to avoid attacks, and spamming the shield staff isn’t too hard

[vapid hearth]

Finally! A The Queen vegisvir!

[plush umbra]

Is very hard difficulty fun? I run a server and was curious of it is a drag or rewarding. I set the resource mod to 1.5 as a sort of benefit for the difficulty

[azure yacht]

Only thing you should know is that you should not rely on the same strategies you used in normal to fight enemies

[small iris]

If a boss kills me, do i have to make the offerings each time i repeat?

[azure yacht]

Like blocking and parrying. Tower shields do become a somewhat better choice

[azure yacht]

Bosses never despawn

[small iris]

Ah perfect, thanks a lot

[paper marsh]

from someone who's played a lot of very hard and even completed it deathless and without cheesey stuff, no.

I mean it can be fun, but getting oneshot from basically any enemy can be a bit punishing, and moreso my issue with it is that a lot of enemies do so much damage that they're practically impossible to parry (parry fails due to overload damage) which has you ending up dodging around an enemy for ages to kill them, or just cheesing them with a bow at range which isn't much fun

Hard difficulty is great tho

[plush umbra]

Thanks for the input I'll change the settings ❤️

[worthy turtle]

does anyone know a good way to find a mountain biome, ive explored so much and have only found one very small one

[undone hedge]

I thought this way too, then I found a mod where I can have a quiver to hold my arrows, can’t see myself playing vanilla anymore.

[undone hedge]

I mean… it depends ya know? You can enter your seed in a website to see your whole map, but that kinda ruins the experience

Other than exploring and sailing the old fashioned way I mean.

Make a raft or boat, kinda stick close to the shore if you’re unable to tackle serpents depending on how far you’ve progressed and explore ya know?

[regal spoke]

Sailing and watching the skyline for mountain peaks. Large ones stand out a great distance

[undone hedge]

Yeah that

Fo sho

[tight yacht]

lots of qol stuff i feel im missingo ut on

but still, gotta do vanilla first