valheim-chat

[dreamy fable]

if you start a world in setting to can change how you take ore in to a portal

So i know irongate's going to mess up ash land and so next game they make not going to buy i think Enshrouded is on the right path

if i had it my way i give Valheim back to irongate's wants a refund but i can to old of a game so i'm stuck with it

[near furnace]

🤔

[merry pebble]

i mean, if you dont like it just dont play it 😄

[dreamy fable]

play it beat it has good things and bad thing's can't make every one happy

[uncut bough]

i miss having speeeed from fenring suit

[merry pebble]

well, you had your fill then 😄 i dont see why you would want refund

[uncut bough]

wearing padded armor made me realize how much i enjoy speeeeeed

[nocturne wolf]

Nobody’s forcing you to wear it

[plush umbra]

How many hours do you have in it?

[plush umbra]

The game in a way

[uncut bough]

and i am just sayin i miss the armor but i dont wanna get one shot by seeker or sth

[dreamy fable]

i have to look on steam

359.6 hour's

[plush umbra]

And it wasn’t worth the price?

[nocturne wolf]

You’ve enjoyed the game enough to play for that long

[dreamy fable]

naa

[signal coral]

I was just stopping by to see if there was any news on an upcoming patch. Caught this poor whiney excuse of a viking in action. Almost 400 hours and crying about what? lol Go home and get happy with the bees.

[plush umbra]

It’ll be a lil while

[dreamy fable]

even in hard mode the game was to easy

[uncut bough]

@near furnace sorry for le ping but why does the text that displays biome sometimes glitch out? i dont like big font text but it is bugged so that the next now appears bigger than it is supposed to, more in #screenshots

[dreamy fable]

only time when it was fun is at night you stay in door's or the 4 stars well eat yaa lol

[uncut bough]

happens mostly when ALT + tab

[merry pebble]

well we only have the info thatt they will come in first half of 2024, and i dont think we are suposed to be rude to each other here 😅

[dreamy fable]

moded only is fun

or maybe i'm just bunt out yaah that it

[nocturne wolf]

You want a refund because you played a game for 360 hours and are burned out?

[dreamy fable]

no i wanted to refund the game way before the 360 hour's

like on day one

[nocturne wolf]

But you like the game more now?

[uncut bough]

i hate the wind, so much, i get in boat, it is headwind, i change direction of boat, the wind change into HEADWIND AGAIN

[merry pebble]

i mean... then you should have 🤷‍♂️

[dreamy fable]

yes it needs work but i did like it kind of

[merry pebble]

welcome to valheim XD

[nocturne wolf]

It’s in early access

[dreamy fable]

in some place's

[near furnace]

it's a render issue. it "solves" itself

[desert tangle]

has so much changed since then?

[dreamy fable]

i did like the building

you know what is fun plant a wooden beam on side of a tree up high and put a trolls head on it lol

around at spawn where your friends log in lol and see it behind some trees

or add some mods live in a troll cave build your base in and around it get a mod to take away the cave dung sounds

[uncut bough]

well that means i have to close the game and reopen it, which takes time, and big font text spooks me

[desert tangle]

what stuff they changed that made u dislike the new valheim?

[near furnace]

Hm.. 🤔

[desert tangle]

maybe devs hinting they are aviators as headwind is their bestfriend :D

[dreamy fable]

a 2 star seeker well stager you don't matter what shield you got it's 98% death every time

[merry pebble]

bonemass and carapace buckler should have you covered

[dreamy fable]

mist lands was a nightmare even with the feather cape it always pulls you down and stamina drain sucks evden with potions

nop try they a 2 star still stagers you not matter what you do

i block it don't help

as long as you got feather fall cape on you can't get a good jump when it pulls you down to try and get away

[pliant hatch]

Lemme guess;

You were / are one of those players who tried to get over the ridges in Mistland, instead of around it?

[hidden gorge]

feather fall cape does not pull you down

[hollow jewel]

Did the game release Ashland?

[hidden gorge]

no

[dreamy fable]

had to a lot of the time had nest of seeker's soldiers following me

[pliant hatch]

Not yet, but it will in the next 92 days

[dreamy fable]

tec's are nasty

[hollow jewel]

Why are you so precise did they say that?

[vocal rivet]

Because that's how long until this half of the year is over.

[dreamy fable]

yes it pulls you down a player with no fether cape on can jump higher thin one where the feather cape lol

[pliant hatch]

Because they said they will release it in the first half of 2024.

We got April (30 days), May (31 days) and June (30 days) to go.
Add one day for March and you get 92 days.

[lunar sapphire]

Birfday Boi?

[hollow jewel]

You guys are funny
Thanks anyway 😁

[pliant hatch]

yw 🙂

[merry pebble]

you can totally parry him, wont fill stagger bar even halfway (same with 2 star seeker soldier)

[nocturne wolf]

You could roll?

[dreamy fable]

race some of your friend to a top of a mountain only you where the feather cape see who gets to the top Frist

and the others has no cape on

[vocal rivet]

Yep yep!

[dreamy fable]

yes i roll to get the tec's off of me don't help running away from everything

[pliant hatch]

That would only work if both have the same inventory weight, wearing the same items, having the same run skill and jump skill.
Otherwise that test wouldn't even be worth doing.

[dreamy fable]

mist lands did take me for ever to tame it all it was a nightmare to build ballista roads lights

the test is one where only a lox cape other only where a feather cape and race to the top

[pliant hatch]

Test will only be valid if both players have the exact same stats.

Otherwise you start already with a difference, which will influence the test.

[dreamy fable]

with the same stats but to show that the feather cape pulls you down every time you try to jump

use it a lot feather cape even with good potions stamina drain is bad

in a lot of my builds

[lunar sapphire]

Posted in general chat 😛

[lone wigeon]

hello, can someone help me recover my items in game ?

[dreamy fable]

to make it easy you can go in to Dm mode and get your stuff back like go invisible

[merry pebble]

sure

[azure yacht]

Mods?

[lone wigeon]

i play vanilla

[azure yacht]

Feather cape slows down your fall, not forcibly pull you down to the ground

[lone wigeon]

thx

[dreamy fable]

Feather cape pulls you down and you try to jump up it's a big stamina drain

[merry pebble]

no it doesent

[ember panther]

Only way you'll drain stamina is by holding down run while falling

[azure yacht]

Starting to think that's just a different game with a feather cape

[paper marsh]

I do wish you’d fall a bit faster than the current version of feather cape

[light moat]

So close to making a feather cape!

[merry pebble]

go for it 😄 no more fall dmg for you after that

[uncut bough]

i finally have used moder power for sailing and i immediately am disappointed that it only changes the wind to tail wind ONCE, so if i make a turn the wind wont keep turning to tailwind

[rich ice]

It was definitely a game changer for me in the Mistlands. As well as adding a new, fun element everywhere else.

[uncut bough]

wait i have to let go off rudder to change wind

just got a bit side tracked fighting serpent so when i come back and steer boat again the wind changed, this makes so much more sense

[rich ice]

Especially when making ridiculous structures in the mountains.

[merry pebble]

it will be tail wint for duration of the power, no matter which way you turn

[merry pebble]

you dont

[uncut bough]

i did

man now fighting serpent is so easy, saw the serpent a few meters away, shot it once, the serpent emerged and howl , shot once more and serpent dead

i love how after the power ended, the first thing that immediately hits me is that the wind is now headwind, again

do i need to say anymore :/

[dire remnant]

I WON YAGLUTH IS DEAD

it only cost 2 draugr fangs, 3/4 of a frostnir, 400 frost arrows, 12 medium health pots, and 4 fire res meads

and my sanity

[paper marsh]

Damn bow against yag must be painful

[pliant hatch]

It can be fun too, though.

[paper marsh]

When I fight him this run it will be the first time I try ice staff and skellies against him, wonder how its gonna do. I kinda expect my skellies combined with my attacks to wreck him pretty hard before he emerges from the ground

[ember panther]

Very hard tamed wolves must be strong af too

[paper marsh]

I imagine 2 star wolves would wreck yea. I've been staying clear of them, feels a bit silly to be able to have such a big army

I don't think the skellies will be too overpowered unless I jank up blood magic skill tho, and I'm much too lazy for that grind

[vocal rivet]

It probably always was. That's what makes Moder's power so good.

[granite sandal]

Just grabbed some Valheim merch! Kid's shirt + shirt for me + stickers + patches

Definitely wanted that Lox plushie though. 😉

[uncut bough]

i want me some merch too but later

oh man the Mistland is so disorienting, like before i even enter there is alreayd a thick mist covering everything

[pliant hatch]

Yeah.

I think that's why it's called Mistland...... 🤔

[uncut bough]

i wish the mist would just be gone after coming in contact with wisplight

like actually delete the mist instead of letting it stick, i have ran headfirst into seekers so many time

[pliant hatch]

Ah, but you shouldn't run (far).
Walking and stopping to listen what's happening around you is by far more safe.
Also gives the wisplight time to catch up on you.

Basically you could consider the Mistlands as the Swamp on steroids. And that goes for the monsters too.

[uncut bough]

dang

[pliant hatch]

The only difference, in Mistlands you got allies. So when you find those, use them wisely.

Except for one occasion.
At that point you should use the monsters as your allies, or get a workbench setup close by, craft a cart and use that to wreck a chest in their base.

[uncut bough]

gawddamn, the 1 star mage just MELTED the seeker soldier

[pliant hatch]

Like I said, you got allies. 😉

[uncut bough]

i am not fighting the dverger

[uncut bough]

i want black marble tho

[pliant hatch]

You can find that at other places.

[uncut bough]

i saw a standing structure with blue light or sth, i broke it, got 3 marbles

[strange arrow]

find an empty tower, and use stonecutter

[uncut bough]

right after i dispatched a fighting dverger rogue of course

[strange arrow]

or a bridge/viaduct

[uncut bough]

it was fighting a seeker and both are about to die, so i just end them

[strange arrow]

the dverger guys don't guard those

[pliant hatch]

Look for large weapons and things looking like helmets or bones.
Mine out those and you got metals and black marble. And when you mine the inside of the helmet, a special kind of resource.

[strange arrow]

not helmet, skull

[uncut bough]

i am apalled over how bad dverger it at detecting enemies

[pliant hatch]

I've found skulls inside helmets.

[uncut bough]

i drag a seeker 0 star to them 1 star mages and 2 rogue, and SOMEHOW the mage still got sneak attacked by the seeker

dropping it to half health, and then a rogue only have a tiny patch of health

[strange arrow]

you will always find the sepcial resource inside the skull, rarely ever inside the helmet inside the skull

[uncut bough]

and another seeker got the drop on the full health rogue, and it killed the 2nd rogue as well, leaving the 1 star mage alone

[strange arrow]

and not in the helmet on it's own at all

[uncut bough]

rlly? rain in mistland? cmon now

[strange arrow]

the storms are really colourful

unlike any other biome

[grizzled wing]

What's the point of the tankard? Why not just drink the potion normally?

[uncut bough]

same question

[strange arrow]

"why can't we drink meads from the tankard?"

[grizzled wing]

You can

[strange arrow]

nothing special gained from doing it sadly, but it looks cool when you and friends raise a toast

[strange arrow]

and that's the reason xD

[grizzled wing]

I was thinking maybe it drank meads in order or something, if you wanted to quickly drink some resistance potion and then immediately heal

[grizzled wing]

Yes but my question is: why not just drink the mead?

Why should I spend an inventory slot for a tankard that I don't know if it does anything

[ember panther]

Cause it looks cool

[strange arrow]

could be a lot worse tho, imagine a survival game where 95% of the stuff you can pick up is totally useless

[vocal rivet]

You don't have to.

[strange arrow]

coughs in Skyrim

[grizzled wing]

No one actually understands what I'm asking. What does the tankard actually do?

[strange arrow]

just the drinking of mead

[grizzled wing]

Does it do it in an order? Or is it random?

[paper marsh]

I believe it acts as a shortcut (really, a long cut) to drinking your mead, while making it look more stylish as you do. I believe it also inserts a slower animation for drinking it

[paper marsh]

In order from top left to bottom right I think

[strange arrow]

ye, a fancy way to drink

[paper marsh]

Also: That moment when you just went on a 3 hour mistlands trip and get hella resources and you're filled to the brim but you have no idea how to get home 😭

[grizzled wing]

So if i wanted to drink poison resist and immediately drink a healing mead after, i could drink from the tankard twice and it would do that for me?

[paper marsh]

I'm not sure of the specific mechanics of it, I've only used it like once or twice by accident

[strange arrow]

i don't think potions work, only mead, but i haven't used it much either

[grizzled wing]

Potions are mead

[strange arrow]

wiki just mentions mead

and that it works the same way as the horn of celebration

[paper marsh]

My best bet may just be to get out of the mistlands, find a black forest, and make a ship to try to navigate home by yggdrassil

[regal spoke]

You've found your way many times already

[paper marsh]

Yea but all those times I had a ship or was on the right continent 😭

Making another ship sounds like a pain

Especially because I’ll have to store all my loot somewhere too

[loud valve]

What if you're stuck on a continent with no black forest or swamp? Raft to get out?

[paper marsh]

I suppose

I mean technically the mistlands I'm in is connected to a Plains area which has my boat, but I got so lost in here (biome is enormous, and I don't even have a wisplight yet) and swam across several divides in the mistlands biome so it's rough finding my way back. Especially since I can't see the yggdrasil from mistlands either. Been trying to go to a neighboring biome to look at it, but navigation still rough

(all no map no portals btw)

[loud valve]

O wait, mistlands have giant swords and armo

So you get both anyways. Guess there really is no good reason to raft

Unless you don't have cores to build a smelter

I wanted to do no maps no portals, but mistlands just sounds like a nightmare, so I didn't bother.

Maybe if I found a good group, I'd do it

[regal spoke]

Making 🧭 as I trek the mist will be the way.

No map no portals is enjoyable.

[uncut bough]

i got 8 marbles now, thanks to the dvergr structure, and i got new recipes

man it has been paying off really well just stockpiling lox meat

meat platter here i come

[pliant hatch]

Just be aware you won't loose your marbles........

[paper marsh]

hmm good point. Mistlands actually has both copper, iron and cores. No tin tho

[uncut bough]

i consumed my marble

[loud valve]

You only need tin for karve no?

[uncut bough]

that 1 star mage, he got jumped by a seeker..... again, so he was a sliver of health away from death

[paper marsh]

tin and copper

[uncut bough]

he still manages to kill the seeker, but yknow....

[loud valve]

Yea, but I meant you can make a longship without tin

[uncut bough]

it was too tempting and that was the only place i can find with marbles, so i just drew the bow and end his arse

u need bronze nail for karve, so no

[pliant hatch]

You can get black marble from the big skeletons and skulls too.

[paper marsh]

yea, but then it comes down to swamp RNG bc I need ancient wood

[uncut bough]

i know i know but i dont wanna sail anymore

[pliant hatch]

No need to destroy Dverger structures.

[uncut bough]

but i can and otherwise it serves 0 purposes for me

[pliant hatch]

Set up a mini base with a portal and you're good.
Only need to sail the metals home in case you mine them there.

[uncut bough]

this was tiny area so nothign to mine here

[loud valve]

O right, I forgot ancient wood

[regal spoke]

With no wisp are you spire peaking to have sense of sun Snail

[paper marsh]

ye

I'm feeling pretty safe in mistlands tho, I do have full mistlands gear already just greedy and wanting more stuff

[regal spoke]

Make a trip profit for sure

[median pivot]

hey, got valheim not long ago but idk anyone else that plays and I'm strugglin lmao anyone tryna help 0-0

[pliant hatch]

You'd better ask that here:
https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[median pivot]

Woops

[maiden granite]

Join one of the voice channels when you are playing, you might find people in there who can assist you vocally

[median pivot]

0-0

[lusty latch]

How tf do you see in the mistlands?

[maiden granite]

By repelling the mist with the help of wisp light or wisp torch.

Both of which becomes available after defeating Yagluth.
You'll get 3 torn spirit as his boss drops.
Using those and some stones you can make the wisp fountain.
And the wisp fountain will have wisp in the night or during rain and thunderstorm.

[lusty latch]

ty!

[wide zodiac]

normal wood chest or reinforced chests, which one do you guys prefer using?

[paper marsh]

What Raiyan said but also you can use sound cues as a substitute for vision

[paper marsh]

depends how much iron I have. I really like the next tier of chest above reinforced

[lusty latch]

Is the timescale command dangerous to use? like screwing up spawn timers or anything?

I'm thinking about setting it to 3 to smelt faster and then setting it back to 1

[maiden granite]

Black Metal Chest and Personal Chest

[maiden granite]

I find reinforced chest more efficient since it takes only a little more space but a huge slot increase.

Black metal chests have even more slots but too big compared to other 2

[dire remnant]

Is terrifying purple thunder and electricity noises common in the mistlands?

[paper marsh]

yea

[rain flare]

No PTB yet

[rain flare]

Very - it’s so beautiful! 🥰

[maiden granite]

Yeah

[fallen zephyr]

Wait 'til you hear the fulings laugh in mistlands

[raven heron]

anyone got a list of ALL materials for all max crafting stations?

[pliant hatch]

You can most likely find it at the wiki when checking the resources page.

[pure blaze]

does obsidian respawn?

[uncut bough]

How do i access mistland tier weapons

[uncut bough]

No, but there is an abundance of it that u dont need to worry about running short on it

[latent wraith]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Workbench
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Forge
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Cauldron
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Artisan_table
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Black_forge

I may have forgotten one.

[latent wraith]

It does not.

[pure blaze]

yeah, I noticed there's lots of it, but I've already farmed all that was near to me

[pliant hatch]

Forgot the stone cutter.
That one demand wood (10?), stone (4?) and iron (4).

[latent wraith]

2 iron.

[wicked snow]

Man the closer we get to june the more impatient I get for the ash

[latent wraith]

I didn't add stone cutter and fermenter ads they're not "proper" crafting stations and don't have any upgrades.

[pliant hatch]

Check for upgrades of the forge and Black forge.

[latent wraith]

You can make the grinding stone on the stone cutter but that's it unless something new has been added.

[pliant hatch]

With that reasoning, the windmill wouldn't be considered a crafting device as well.

Yet, the Devs have put all three in the "crafting" building tab.

[latent wraith]

They definitely belong in the crafting tab, but I didn't add them as I don't consider them "proper" crafting stations of the same kind as the workbench/forge etc.

[hidden flame]

Can anyone help me and tell me how to kill bone mass the easiest way?

[finite trail]

Iron mace + Poison resistance mead is a good combination

Bonemass i weak against clubs

[merry pebble]

make sure you have refined eitr, you need it for lot of stuff

[heady parcel]

FFS when I logged out last night I forgot to confirm Quit, came back to my naked self standing in my bed with a very, very long and difficult corpse run ahead of me...

Seems I've been killed more than once. Does the game punish us for afk:ing by popping bat raids on purpose?

[plush umbra]

no

[rare birch]

||Raise the earth close to bonemass spawn. Get on top where he can't reach you. Use stagbreaker (or Iron Sledge) to smash the ground in front of you. The AOE damage will take him out and you be out of reach of him and all the other mobs. You could also use arrows to spam him but that takes a log time and a ton of arrows. ||

[heady parcel]

Run skill down at 90 again, dangit. Well buggerit, I'm devcommanding my skills back up, the humiliation and corpse run is punishment enough for my stupidity this time...

[strange arrow]

he telegraphs his attacks so just roll when you when see one coming and avoid the big cloud when he does that move

[heady parcel]

Plus the FoB where I logged out (er..thought I logged out...) is probably razed to the ground

[strange arrow]

the odds can seem firmly against you at times, but it's not deliberate, it's RNG

the RNG picks from a pool of the raids you have available

[heady parcel]

Yeah, just bad luck that it picked the one raid that could actually get inside and hit me haha

Still don't know what killed me the first time, I wonder if they left some traces behind

[strange arrow]

yeh possibly drops or even left over mobs that are still aggro somewhere and didn't despawn

[heady parcel]

Bats are notorious for that, I sometimes find bats days after the latest bat raid

[strange arrow]

i've found it with surtlings, skele's, wolves that i can remember

[heady parcel]

At least the bats don't level buildings

[austere flame]

after some testing, ive found an easy way to kill abomination is to stand right beneath the center attack, parry, do 1-2 normal attacks, and repeat. this way you wont be surprised with any other attacks as long as you stay standing right beneath its center. it's also fairly easy to time the parry.

[strange arrow]

true, PITA for killing tames if they aren't sealed in though 😞

[heady parcel]

For that reason I don't keep my animals at the main base 😅

[strange arrow]

risky tho since that attack will do heavy damage if you miss the parry

their arm swings are just as easy to parry without so much risk

camera angles also get interesting when yr close up with them, making it easy to miss potential adds

[heady parcel]

Fenris set has found its niche in my realm at least, awesome for quick corpse runs in places you can't run naked

Was wolves who ate me, some were still there

[strange arrow]

oof

[rare birch]

I have an island away from my base where I have a 2 star boar farm. Chicken houses, hundreds of tame wolves roaming everywhere. It has a small swamp at one end I use to farm ooze/chains ect. The other end has a tiny sliver of BF. It's so small I threw down a fire to stop the random troll spawn.

[heady parcel]

I keep my hens in a troll cave just near a small meadows patch where I found the two star boars and just penned them in. Swamp nearby too, so pretty ideal location 😄

[strange arrow]

just made an earth wall den with a marble roof for mine

bat free zone xD

[rare birch]

sounds similar. I keep back up chickens in a cave under the elder spawn. I also have some spare wolves there

[strange arrow]

who knew tame safehouses would be a thing

[heady parcel]

Heheh

Just got ambushed by a lone tick in the middle of the plains, where the heck did that come from?

[rare birch]

You never know. Although I got so much gold I could easily buy more eggs. Just not much to use gold on for me so far. Does hilder accept gold? I did one of her quest but have not dropped off the chest yet

[civic rampart]

I made an entire raised base out over the water nearby a plains biome just to ensure nothing can even think of attacking it, the sheer amount of stone though, yeah that took a quarry.

[heady parcel]

She sells stuff for gold yes, also will pay you for the same items Haldor buys

[strange arrow]

she doesn't sell the eggs tho, only Haldor

[civic rampart]

The base has its own dock, and grows plenty of flax though.

[strange arrow]

terraforming Plains really does pay off for the effort

prime real estate for growers

[civic rampart]

Here it is #memes-and-clips message , I hope I used the correct channel for it however, my only regret is the dockside floods in high seas.

[balmy python]

when those black slimes were introduced I found the plains a bit annoying to build in because it was hard to find a place that didn't overlook those tar pits

[heady parcel]

I made a few tiers of terraces around the base of a stone pillar, got the house on a rock next to it, a lookout up top and plenty of farming soil away from the reach of fulings and lox

[tulip patrol]

How effective the root harnesk against the Seekers. I know the harnesk has massive peirce resistance, i just dont know if that resistance makes it viable against Seekers

since most of the seekers attack deal pierce damage

[fallen zephyr]

OMG! I haven't seen two two-star ticks in the same place since I was in the gifted program in primary school 😛

[plush umbra]

as long as you carry fire resistance wines on you to negate the fire weakness on root pieces, the root harnesk is pretty great in mistlands.
seekers aside, ticks and dvergr rogues also primarily deal pierce

[civic rampart]

After a few wrecks happened, I'm starting to doubt my decision of having a roof over my docks.

[tulip patrol]

yeah i got plenty of fire wine for that

on a side note, I wish you could turn the wall mounts to their side to weapons would be Horizontal rather than vertical. but thats just me nitpicking. I like wall mounted Bows being Horizontal

[plush umbra]

yea that'd be pretty neat, i wanna cross weapons on the walls

[tulip patrol]

time to go hunt for some abominations to fully upgrade a harnesk since i apparently didnt have any extra roots

[uncut bough]

Oh man the dvergr wizard are freaky, rogue is tough but the wizard is devastating

[tulip patrol]

support mages are the worse, i underestimated the support mage one time and immedietly regretted it after they launched nuke at me

[plush umbra]

i start any fight i get into with dvergr by praying for a oneshot with a heavy attack on one of their wizards

[uncut bough]

I havent fought them but the mage just shreds a seeker soldier with no diff, and it was terrifyinf

[ember panther]

All the wizards are scary

[plush umbra]

seekers take twice as much elemental damage as they take physical, and on top of that, ice mages are balanced around the player basically always having 50% frost resistance from all the capes, so their damage values are quite high™️

[uncut bough]

That means if i wear any other capes than wolf cape or lox cape, i take all the dmg of frost that essentially amounts to twice as much as i would take wearing those capes?

[plush umbra]

pretty much

[light moat]

Huh, that’s a bit of a bummer actually

[tulip patrol]

The ashlands cape better be really good because im not taking off the feather cape if its not

[uncut bough]

They will give you immune to fire dmg

[light moat]

Immune to damage

[tulip patrol]

not taking the feather cape off for that 🤣

[uncut bough]

That is crazy statement, being immune to 1 damage source is good

[tulip patrol]

i can deal with fire damage with fire wine, gravity is what gets me killed 90% of the time

[light moat]

||doesn’t look like Ashlands will have a lot of height to it though, so fall damage might not be a major issue.|| Ashlands spoiler

[tulip patrol]

speaking of fire wine, almost forgot that going into the mist without is no good

[uncut bough]

Devs sees this bold statement and then add as many high towers and volcano as they can

So much for fall dmg being non issue

[gray nexus]

man

why is like half of mistlands non-farmable

[tulip patrol]

tbf you dont need much space for Magecap and jotun Puff farms

[light moat]

I flattened a decent sized area, only to discover it wasn’t farmable haha

[gray nexus]

same

i was gonna make is 64x40 something

but the farmable patch is so small

prolly enough for 100 or so crops but not more

[tulip patrol]

make sure the ground is intially grass not rock

[plush umbra]

grass so dense that no stone is visible underneath

[tulip patrol]

also the mistlands has the most vibrant and beautiful grass and its a shame since its covered by the mist

[plush umbra]

but hey, mistlands shrooms yield 3 instead of 2

[fallen zephyr]

If ashlands doesn't require the fall-damage avoidance of mistlands, I'll trade out the feather cape in an instant.

[gray nexus]

mistlands is beautiful but yeah pretty much all of it hidden, even if you litter wisp torches everywhere it's still not enough it seems

[tulip patrol]

Did that used to be the case with barley flax as well. I couldve sworn that barley flax were crops of 3 back in the day

[light moat]

I’m planning on wrapping up the mistalnds this weekend. Still have to get my little outpost up and running, but it should be pretty easy.

[light moat]

I just can’t stand bugs 😅

[plush umbra]

how far back?

[gray nexus]

none spawn at the patch i choose, i've been mining and flattening in complete peace haha

[tulip patrol]

Idk, i jsut couldve sworn at one point barley and flax yieled 3 rather than 2 before

[gray nexus]

but yeah with limited visibility

[tulip patrol]

but I could've been mistaken

[gray nexus]

im in no hurry for real mistlands experience

[plush umbra]

i'm not big into valheim's farming so i didn't pay much attention to the yield until after hearth & home, i remember no time at which it was 3
(it's balanced that way because flax and barley skip the seed cycle, they just have to grow once, so the yield is effectively the same as carrots, turnips and onions)

[fallen zephyr]

I see so many people saying they love Mistlands because "it's pretty". Is there no resentment from those people about the very limited visibility of the biome? Why make it the prettiest biome and then obscure your view?

[golden bridge]

My friends and I were having such fun with the game and then they hit mistlands and dropped it like a rock 😦

[tulip patrol]

I dont hate the limited visibility it added another challenge to the game having to worry about finding creatures lurking in the mist

[light moat]

I find mistalnds to be a little too magical for my tastes, but it does look nice

[plush umbra]

the one thing that was set in stone before the whole appearance of the biome was the name "mistlands", it would've been a bit weird to betray that.

[light moat]

The old mistlands had its own uniqueness to it as well, thought for sure there were going to be spiders back then haha

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, that's fair. But the visibility obscurement doesn't define any other factor (e.g. prettiness).

[fallen zephyr]

And having explored Mistlands, that 'stone' you speak of appears to be crazy vertical spires of rock and a traversibility that even Tom Cruise would get his stunt double for.

[gray nexus]

i think the mist is great but still a better way to remove it could've been nice, I would love for the wisp torches remove it cylindrically over spherically, or atleast increasing the verticality of the de-misting (like an vertically elongated sphere?)

[plush umbra]

there are areas without mist. and personally i like that the mist is prominent and not just completely disabled with progression as some other games would do it, but i do think it's a bit too thick to contribute to the beauty.
i love mist irl, but in mistlands there's either no mist or 100% opaque mist, not really anything inbetween. if the particles were just a bit more transparent, it'd still be hard to fight and explore through it, but it wouldn't look as...unnatural.

one of the early teaser images shows what i mean

[fallen zephyr]

The wisplight is rubbish. Give me a wisp-lantern in the fashion of the 'dvergr circlet' any day. It might just be the way I prefer to move around, but the wisp lantern, for me, could do with a Ritalin prescription.

[golden bridge]

I think I might have preferred that tbh.

[gray nexus]

that would've been so cool

[tulip patrol]

I still hate exploring the Mist solo @ night

[golden bridge]

The thing about Mistlands was my friends hit it and were like "Okay, so the gimmick is Mist. Ok. What's the answer, how do you make it go away?" And you really can't. And they were like "So...we just can't see? Ever?" Then they quit. :/

[fallen zephyr]

Once you've cleared The Queen, even Black Forest at night is pretty rough.

[tulip patrol]

ye.. having Seeker spawns in the BF is rough. Honestly cant wait to see what the Ashlands boss spawns in early biomes

[light moat]

I like the spires, but I think they could be toned down a bit, more flat grassy areas look really beautiful, and would compliment the mist very well I think. The spires are cool, but when there are a lot, it subtracts from the cool factor.

[plush umbra]

(they at least defeated yagluth and got wisplights before entering, right?)

[dense steppe]

So they're not Vikings 😸

[fallen zephyr]

"Oh, a party of Fulings? Haha, no problem!" - "Wait, there's also four ticks? Okay, I can manage this." - "Two seekers as well? Ok, now I'm fearing for my life".

[plush umbra]

that's a sit back and watch moment for me

[golden bridge]

No Queen but we had Wisplights and then they embarked on this futile quest to....try and light the whole thing up with those little blue Mist tier torches? It was a massive effort and they finally decided they just didn't enjoy the zone and quit. I think if Ashlands had been out we'd have tried to skip the biome maybe.

[plush umbra]

yea i meant yagluth 😅 sleepy brain got the wrong boss

i went in with the assumption that the density of points of interest like dungeons and dvergr outposts is much higher than in previous biomes to compensate for the difficult terrain and slow pace at which you have to move through the mist to stay safe, and i'm still pretty sure that is the case.

i move around slower than i do in other biomes but find stuff at roughly the same pace

[light moat]

I treat the mistlands like the swamp- the environmental hazard makes this place treacherous. Planning is very important, and knowing where to be when it gets dark is crucial. Stamina is crazy important here. Moving slow is key as well.

[golden bridge]

Moving slow is key overall.

[fallen zephyr]

One of the worst things about Mistlands is that it gives you the false confidence that the Dvergr are common enough to help you out if you get yourself in a pickle. It's rubbish, and if you happen to accidentally hit one of the Dvergr while you're helping them dispose of the Mistlands mobs, they'll all turn on you in a second.

[paper marsh]

I take it you just skip wisplight then?

[golden bridge]

Yeah they despise moving slow. 😦

[paper marsh]

I luv my dvergr friends. I don’t think I’ve ever angered them without meaning to

[plush umbra]

i've moved slow since the day i started playing~

[light moat]

I feel like you can pick up the pace for the plains, I feel like the plains are all about tough enemies, and base building opportunities.

[golden bridge]

I'm much more chill than they are I liked just hanging out and gathering resources and building and stocking up food but they were very gogogogogo beat boss clear game etc

[plush umbra]

it's worth noting that the mistlands update also got rid of a stamina cost multiplier on running up steep ground, the biome sure would've been an experience with that

[fallen zephyr]

Often, yes. I've use the mistwalker as my light source more frequently than I'd like. But, don't let's not devolve the argument to a 'do' or 'do not' solution. The wisp light is better than no light, but not nearly helpful enough given the other challenges in Mistlands.

[plush umbra]

unless you're jumping off cliffs into a sea of mist, it's really not that useless. enemies can't see through the mist either, only hear, which you can too.

[paper marsh]

yea just wondering if it is worth it to you to kill Yag and get the silver for the wisplight

[plush umbra]

...i think that was my first mistlands death btw. just soaring down into the mist and realizing i've landed right on top of an infested dvergr mining site

[unique onyx]

they see better than i do though

[fallen zephyr]

Anecdotally, that's not my experience. I've been half-baked by the Gjall fire attack soooo many times before I could see it in the mist.

[light moat]

This might be a hot take, and I don’t mean this in a bad way, but I find the Mistlands biome the least ‘Valheim-like’

It almost feels like a mod to me haha

[plush umbra]

hmmm, i do remember some gjalls i could only hear aggroing on me from beyond the mist before, just not seekers. i should test that more sometime

[light moat]

But hey, gotta have at least one biome/zone that’s the right-of-passage trial!

[unique onyx]

what's the difference when a seekers sees you vs hears you? running/walking?

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, the wisplight is essential, but it's like traversing a biome with a toddler. So many times, I'm all "Where are you going?!" "Come back!" "Hey, don't go over there!" "Stay with me!" "No, don't go over there, it's dangerous!"

[zenith star]

ngl i wish when you died you gained a ghost buff

[odd helm]

I do wish the wisp was a bit snappier

[zenith star]

that makes it so enemies cant see you at all oh and just make it so enemies despawn entireley around your items

[light moat]

We should have wisp emoji, the little wisps are so cute!

[fallen zephyr]

That whatever solution the devs chose doesn't centre on the player is just crazy to me.

[zenith star]

for good measure because enemies in this game purposely camp its not even well hidden lol

[uncut bough]

i wish the wisp just stays right beside me all the time instead and have a constant wider illuminating range instead of it just bubbling and moving wherever it wants

like sometimes i just end up standing still in a place where it takes upward of 5 seconds for the wisp to clear the mist, and standing still is often dangerous cuz seeker just around everywhere

[plush umbra]

when an enemy first hears or sees you, they'll have a yellow icon above their head and slowly move towards your position. in this state, they're not yet in combat and can still be "backstabbed" by arrows.
they'll only enter combat once they have line of sight to you at a certain distance depending on the enemy. (with some exceptions. f.e. shooting an arrow or throwing a spear on the ground near an enemy will instantly alert it)

[light moat]

Dvergr lantern + wisp should equal wisp lantern 🙂

[zenith star]

having a entire camp of fulings sitting on your items is pretty trash ngl

[light moat]

Oh man, did they kill you in there village?

[zenith star]

they killed me in the middle of the village

and right after a raid happenedalmost instantly

[fallen zephyr]

Why were you in the middle of the village?

[zenith star]

how am i meant to kill them

[light moat]

That’s the worst… sorry man.

Might try luring them away or picking them off with a bow next time?

[fallen zephyr]

Use a bow to draw a couple out at a time and work inwards; provide particular attention to the shamen.

[light moat]

2 or 3 high stam foods, Eikthyr, sprint and grab your goods!

[uncut bough]

what you must do is using the no skill loss buff and just run straight into the camp , sneak at first and then run when u r detected, tap on hte grave and get that sweet "corpse run " effect and git outta dodge

[desert dagger]

@worn haven ayo bro i hope i pinged the right one, is me miggy

[zenith star]

nah im just gonna run in and grab them

i killed pretty much all the shamans there was like 7 shamans

which is bizarre

ive never seen that many shamans i only see 2 or 3

[fallen zephyr]

You must have found the village with the Boss Drum...

[zenith star]

probably

[fallen zephyr]

(I'm hoping just one person will get it).

[gray nexus]

I had to search but now I get it

funi

[fallen zephyr]

Go listen. I hope you like it.

[gray nexus]

i am, not really my kinda song tho xd
i kinda like it tho

[zenith star]

got my items back

jeez even tho im not in vanilla jusgt regular fulings are absolut enightmares still sometimes

they are the worst enemies to die by in any scenario

well followed by draugr archers

[fallen zephyr]

Parry is the best combat skill in the entire game. No question. Everything is easier when you parry. You just have to be conscious of your 'block' level when dealing with starred enemies.

[zenith star]

im limiting myself to only 2 handed weapons

which i can still parry with

tbf and i do parry sometimes when i need to

[fallen zephyr]

"need" is always

[dire remnant]

||yagluth|| taught me that rolling is much better than parrying at a few times

[fallen zephyr]

I stand corrected. You're right, dodging does have value over parrying in some instances.

[dire remnant]

the i-frames are genuinely busted at times when you have high stamina from combos like bread and wolf jerky

[unique onyx]

how much block skill to parry a draugr archer with iron buckler on very hard?

[fallen zephyr]

Jesus, dude. Trial and error...

[plush umbra]

heavily depends on what food you ate, but i don't know the exact math

hypothetically with enough max HP, your fists could parry every blockable move in the game, not that such numbers are remotely achievable with the food we have

[fallen zephyr]

I do know that if you ate a double quarter-pounder, with large fries, and a super chocolate sundae, you're just asking for it.

[unique onyx]

looks like would be sausage, black soup and turnips

based on scarlet's spreadsheet for stuff in that tier

[fallen zephyr]

Of course there's a spreadsheet.

[vocal rivet]

You could work it out from here: https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Blocking_(Skill)

[fallen zephyr]

Hiya @vocal rivet. I was starting to get curious when you finish recharging. 😛

[vocal rivet]

Huh?

[fallen zephyr]

I've just seen you responding to (and resenting) the Ashlands release queries recently and I was wondering whether you might actually be a bot. 😛

[vocal rivet]

Oh come on. How long have you known me?

[fallen zephyr]

I'm really struggling to to find where you sit on the sense-of-humour spectrum.

[vocal rivet]

I like funny jokes.

[fallen zephyr]

LOL! Funny is so subjective, dude. 😄

[vocal rivet]

Then it's hard to answer your question.

[odd helm]

Best HHS combo in swamps without using serpent meat, yeah, although I'd suggest going for serpent food in higher difficulties.

[fallen zephyr]

I never asked a question. << >>

[vocal rivet]

It's a sort of question.

[dense steppe]

Why are there no potatoes in Valheim? 😿

[vocal rivet]

I can't tell you what I find funny until I do.

Because they weren't discovered by Vikings.

[zenith star]

i really love the lightning storms in the mistlands

[fallen zephyr]

Ok ok, let's try some benchmarking. This is my favourite stupid joke - Two eggs are cooking away in a frying pan. One egg says, "OMG! It's hot in here." And the second egg says, "WTF! A talking egg!"

[odd helm]

Fellas, I'm obligated to point y'all at the channel topic~

[fallen zephyr]

Are there or are there not eggs in Valheim?

[odd helm]

You know what I mean

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, I do. Next time I'll include the use of a crafted iron skillet. 😛

[unique onyx]

does serpent food let you parry draugr archers in very hard with iron buckler? i cannot do the math from the link lol

[paper marsh]

I think so if you're running like sausages too

[odd helm]

It would give you a much better chance to do it compared to sausages and black soup

[paper marsh]

1 hp food to parry is iffy

I'd suggest triple hp for crypts, works a charm ;)

[odd helm]

Serpent stew and cooked serpent meat are BiS for swamp HP food if you have access to them

[paper marsh]

^

[odd helm]

You also need stamina to parry tho, so turnip stew as your third food is a good idea

[unique onyx]

so at some skill level below 100 and with that food combo, you can parry them on very hard?

[hearty niche]

What an adventure! SP Very Hard - in swamp adjoining forest, I spot a 1star troll. Running from the troll, I found an abomination. Got the 2 to meet up for some Kurosawa let-em-fight action and had to give the abomination some help cuz he was getting beat up pretty bad.

[paper marsh]

also I'm going off of assumption that the buckler is max lvl. Haven't experimented much with lvl 1 bucklers bc... it's very hard

[paper marsh]

Should be just fine yea. Maybeee 1 star archers too, definitely not 2 star

[odd helm]

Can't tell from experience in very hard, but those would give you the best chance numerically. Don't forget to upgrade your armor and buckler as far as you can.

[hearty niche]

I parried a 1 star w/ my lvl3 banded shield on a diet of sausage, blood soup, and turnip stew

in very hard I tend to go with more block armor - the extra parry damage doesn't really help when I gotta take everything slowly anyway

I think having some pierce resist would help big-time

[paper marsh]

parying enemies helps me so much

[hearty niche]

You can still parry w/ the banded shield, you just don't have as big of a parry multiplier

[paper marsh]

Root Harnesk is brokenly good on Very Hard. Very much recommend

[paper marsh]

Ah so you mean the extra block armor on parry doesn't matter as much to you? Bc its the same damage

[hearty niche]

lemme get my buckler off the shelf and compare. For some reason I thought it had a higher parry multiplier when equipped

Yeah parry bonus 1.5 on banded, 2.5 on buckler. Am I misunderstanding what parry damage is? I thought it was the multiplier applied to stunned blows after a parry

[paper marsh]

Parry multiplier multiplies your block armor when you do a parry.

So if you have a banded shield with 50 block armor, on a parry you'd get 50x1.5 = 75 block armor

With a buckler if it had 40 block armor and 2.5 multiplier, you'd get 40x2.5 = 100 block armor

Stagger duration/damage to enemy is same regardless, but you're more likely to be successful parrying with a buckler because you get more block armor

[odd helm]

You can do \ before a * to prevent formatting *like so*

[hearty niche]

WTF I've been playing this game since H&H and completely misunderstood that!

Like I'm 99% sure you're right but this is like learning there is no god to me, I need to re-arrange some of my worldview

[fallen zephyr]

Do ballistas weather?

[hearty niche]

The cake is false!!!!

[plush umbra]

yea staggered enemies always take x2 damage, even if it wasn't a parry that staggered them

and the duration depends on the attack animation that got parried and/or the enemy

[hearty niche]

That sounds very rational and logical now that you say it lol

[hearty niche]

Waaaaaait hold up please elaborate more on this

I gotta put on a helmet so I can reassemble my currently exploding head

[plush umbra]

it mostly depends on the enemy.
the only instance of two different attack parries yielding different stagger durations that i can think of is stone golems.
parrying their light attack gives you a long stagger while they almost instantly recover from a heavy attack parry

[hearty niche]

Yeah that was the exact example I was thinking of

[odd helm]

But yeah, that's why bucklers are so heccin good~

If you can consistently parry, they outperform normal shields at the same tier, sometimes even above

[hearty niche]

SO knowing all this, what's the point of the banded shield?

[odd helm]

Higher base block armor, for those times where you can't parry.

[plush umbra]

to not be punished as hard for failing the parry timing

[hearty niche]

Oh well I'm Neil Peart when it comes to parries so that's really good to know

[odd helm]

I've been doing ashlands prep recently on my world and having that reassurance has saved my bacon a few times.

Granted, default difficulty, but still~

[halcyon thistle]

rush mentioned

[hearty niche]

I woke up with Subdivisions in my brain this morning. Usually I'm annoyed by brain worms but it's a fantastic tune.

[halcyon thistle]

yep, golden

[hearty niche]

I saw they were talking reunion with the likes of Danny Carey but he's doing the King Crimson thing so if they do it likely will be someone else.

[halcyon thistle]

oh really

I really wanna watch them in concert, might use my life savings if they come here

[odd helm]

Channel topic, y'all~

[halcyon thistle]

yeah was really the end of it, didn't wanna do the whole "yeah lets move to this channel" thing for just another 2 messages

[paper marsh]

I swear the game has rigged my trophy drop rates (positively)

[halcyon thistle]

on my current playthrough I'm just missing the wraith for now

[fallen zephyr]

The trophy drop rates in my play-through informed the name of my bar. It's now called 'The Fuling Station'.

[paper marsh]

I got a rancid remains skull from my first rancid kill, then another like 4 kills later

killed two cultists, got two trophies. killed 5-6 more, got 1 more

I've killed like about 8-9 soldiers and Gjall each, and have 3 soldier trophies and 4 Gjall trophies

Just feels real lucky

[plush umbra]

i've had insane luck with cultist trophies myself, and pretty terrible luck with stone golem trophies, for a while it took me about 60 golems per trophy, 3 times the average

[paper marsh]

I've yet to ever get a golem trophy. I should go hunting

[plush umbra]

i kill every golem i see, hard to resist precious stone and the chance for a rare item to hoard.
and before H&H, i used them to grind bows levels

[paper marsh]

My problem with them is that my weapons are mainly pierce which sucks against them

I do have a lvl 4 BM Pick and a staff of embers now tho, which should dispatch them

[plush umbra]

the BM pick is pretty okay against them yea

[regal spoke]

You're refraining from clubs/maces on this run correct Snail

[paper marsh]

Not intentionally banning them no, just not a big fan of them. Did use frostner a lil' but quickly trashed it bc it almost got me killed several times

[pure plume]

Frostner for me is swamp only weapon. Usually i stick to iron mace until porcupine and go with frostner to swamps

But now I run with sword as main and mace as backup weapon for some enemies

[paper marsh]

I tend to stick to knives and spears

[pure plume]

I have to try knives ar some point. Since there's just really basic sneaking mechanics i thought knives are strange choice

[hearty niche]

Dude. I thought Very Hard was Very Hard (tm) but now I gotta fight wolves and I need to get better at dodging apparently.

Cuz it's Very. Very. Hard.

[uncut bough]

can i take on a dvergr rogue 1 star with max padded armor?

this area is a bit isolated so i want to just kill em all and get all i can get before moving on to another mistland area

[paper marsh]

I recommend bows or spears for them. But when one sneaks up a dodge is for sure nice

[hearty niche]

You could take 'em on naked at a certain point as long as you don't get hit. If you have to go back for your stuff, how many attempts will that take vs just leaving him be and looking for the next skull?

Those would be my assessments.

[hearty niche]

Yeah that seems to work decently as long as there is only 1.

[paper marsh]

easily. Rogues aren't too tough and if he has no backup you're chiling

[hearty niche]

My other tactic has been aetgeir spin

[paper marsh]

idk, works for me with 2-3 but stamina is for sure rough. Eik or a stamina potion helps. I've been using spears (sicne I've banned atgeir and bow) but that's prob the harder option

[hearty niche]

yeah exactly. You can go heavy on health food and hope to at least parry the blow but then that leaves exhaustion which is just as bad.

Right no my silver mining plan is "Bring stuff to build a stonecutter and build a small stone fort before commencing mining"

[paper marsh]

They're not just for sneaking, but for general combat. I prefer knives and spears because they have a fast attack speed. Using something like a sword or mace I end up overextending my stay because the animation is so slow, or because I want to get the third hit in for the extra damage. And I pretty much get one shot by most enemies so its a big nono

[hearty niche]

I is bad at words today

[paper marsh]

yea tbh I never learned to parry wolves. I just run around them and try to get a ranged hit on them, or maybe a melee hit

[hearty niche]

The timing can be tricky!

[thin fulcrum]

My dark souls experience was a 2 star support Dvergr when i was new

[uncut bough]

mmm aight, if i die here i blame u

[thin fulcrum]

unkillable WRETCH it was

[uncut bough]

maybe i can just hit it with a heavy sword attack to stun him and kill him

[hearty niche]

Go get 'er, Ray!

[uncut bough]

i need the black marbles more than him soooo, easy choice

hold the phone, he only drops COINS on death??

did i just kill him, for a few pocket change??? i feel so guilty rn

[pure plume]

I wish we could use them to row on our boats xD

[regal spoke]

I developed a style from playing with axe so much. Priming attacks works nice for mace as well. Way different from spear pewpew

[pure plume]

I have axe at 65 just cause i don't bother switching weapons when I cut trees and enemies come to say hello

But I don't like it as a weapon. Sword is decent. Spear attacks are to simple for me. Didn't try knives. Mace is slow but useful in some cases. And usually i cover dmg types by sword mace and bow so I have slash, blunt and pierce available

And I avoid dual wield ones cause i just can't get the timing right with them

[paper marsh]

Dual wield meaning two-handed weapons?

[pure plume]

Yes

[paper marsh]

Coins, sometimes black marble and soft tissue too (soft tissue is very good)

Yea two handed weapons can be quite clunky. Atgeir just too strong tho

[hearty niche]

LOL I couldn't remember the name of the 2-handed knife weapona and "Statler and Waldorf" was the first thing my brain came up with.

[maiden granite]

"Skoll and Hati"

[inner falcon]

when update

[hearty niche]

When it's done.

Is there still the ?ashlands prompt ?

[plain bane]

Bot's dead.

[paper marsh]

within 3 months

[half dragon]

3 months is relatively short time if you let it go by instead of constantly keeping track of it

[hearty niche]

I always tellf olks they should work on making their own games while waiting for Valheim releases.

[half dragon]

or just play the game, or another game if don't have ideas for what to do

[hearty niche]

I've had a lot of fun just playing on Very Hard. I crank up the resource rate cuz I hate copper mine grinding but need to get a mod so I can up just the copper drops

[half dragon]

if the resource modifier also increases the drops from enemies... oh lord the amount of junk is great

[regal spoke]

1.5 feels good

[paper marsh]

v hard is fun, i feel like it would feel better if i set my block skill to 80 on spawn tho

[inner falcon]

for sure or approximate time?

[regal spoke]

https://i.imgflip.com/1n7hw0.jpg

[paper marsh]

Devs said anytime in first half of 2024. check #general description

[inner falcon]

ok thanks!

[half dragon]

I think parrying/blocking NEEDS a rework, to make it more viable on harder difficulties. They already struggle on normal difficulty trying to be worth it consistently instead of something niche to be used on big bad bois or with specific weapons only

[paper marsh]

hmm i think its fine on normal diff

[half dragon]

I haven't bothered to use block at all due to how many times it has betrayed me when I needed it the most

[paper marsh]

Parry is so powerful

[half dragon]

with exception of big bois like trolls, abominations and golems

Outside of that, just whack them first to win. no need to parry

I used to have fun parrying even when it wasn't needed but after the rework? Meh...

[heady parcel]

Even after Yag tbh, those fuling bands mean business, and sometimes two of them gang up and become a real menace

[half dragon]

absolute garbage when even the best maxed out available iron buckler can't even parry 2 star draugrs properly

get staggered and die, that's what happens

[paper marsh]

on normal?

[half dragon]

yes

[paper marsh]

I parry 0 stars with ease on v hard, which is equivalent to 2 star normal.

Maybe you struggle if you dont eat good health food

[heady parcel]

Then you must be using too weak foods

[half dragon]

1 stars don't instantly stagger but still do enough damage to you to make you not want to parry

[half dragon]

I was using best available food at the time. Hadn't found turnips yet tho

[regal spoke]

Dodge roll is huge. These moments in shield combat prove it

[heady parcel]

What armor then, troll suit? Because I've had no problems parrying starred draugr using basic iron and banded shield

[paper marsh]

does sound like a food issue then. With sausage and blood soup/deer stew you should be fine. Slot in some serpent meat and you'll be straight chilling

[heady parcel]

(Never ever worn any other root piece than the mask for poison resist, not a member of the root chest fan club haha)

[paper marsh]

Root chest isn't required by any means, unless you play higher difficulties imo

[half dragon]

parrying should not depend that heavily on how much HP/stamina you have anyway, just blocking skill and armor values

[paper marsh]

hmm I like food be relevant

[half dragon]

yes food relevant, but you don't need it to tie it to parrying to be relevant

it's plenty relevant as is

[heady parcel]

I wager the "fantasy" behind it with the food is it makes you strong enough to stagger enemies by parrying. Parrying when weak will still reduce a lot of damage, but leave you staggered. I like how it works

[half dragon]

makes it garbage for anything where it could actually truly shine, such as trying to retrive your shit with minimal equipment

[regal spoke]

That problem is preparation

[half dragon]

your preparations tend to go poof when you die

[paper marsh]

I just feel like you're reaching a bit. Setting aside other difficulties, parrying is super powerful on normal. You can negate basically all the damage from an opponent, stun them, and do double damage against them. You can even do it at range!

You don't even need to eat great food either, you'll usually be able to parry enemies in your biome regardless as long as they dont have stars or are a brute enemy. For stars or brutes you can still parry them, just gotta eat a bit better food and make sure you're using a good shield. Still plenty doable, just a bit more thought goes into it if wanting to negate damage and stun super powerful enemies

[wide zodiac]

what to do after iron age? where do i go next from here

[half dragon]

I was eating almost best possible food and still sucked ass in the swamp to the point of me stopping using it completely

I have not used parry against normal enemies ever since, easier to just hit them first and then again

[paper marsh]

Go to the mountains! (Make sure to make some frost resist mead)

[half dragon]

Every single time I died in the swamps was because parrying didn't do the work it was supposed to, preventing damage. Except that 1 time to random oozer jumping from behind be while fighting abomination... or that 1 time to wraith when I was fighting abomination

[uncut bough]

woo found a farmland in a very desolated space in mistland, harvested some jotun puff and gotten myself some misthare s'preme

also meat platter as well

wisp torch is also incredible

[paper marsh]

misthare supreme is my love

damn I really need to go kill yag, I miss torches

[wide zodiac]

had this game for more than nearly 2 years and the furthest ive been in this game is completing the swamp biome. I keep playing on and off every couple months and i just remake a new save everytime

[paper marsh]

Good luck! For me the game starts getting the most fun after swamp

[half dragon]

same

Although, black forest and before that was fine too

only that part of getting copper was annoying

[paper marsh]

meadows BF swamp are a bit stale to me. Mountain is a bit of a transition, and then plains and mistlands gets really fun for me

figuring out how to food skip most effectively in swamp is fun tho

[half dragon]

eh. I enjoyed hunting deer and boars with spear

[wide zodiac]

Spent a whole day irl just mining copper veins 💀

didnt even get that much

[half dragon]

that does happen

[paper marsh]

I mine one copper vein and then I'm done. I can't be bothered to get more

[half dragon]

to make that less annoying, this time I made a road from my base to a bit deeper into the black forest and marked in the map location of copper to make the mining trips more berable

was able to complete them quite quickly thanks to that

something like 15-20 minutes from base to black forest and fill it with to 1k weight of copper and bring it back to base

took hours to make that road though... but had fun doing that and I did get a lot of wood and stone I needed

[hearty niche]

Yooooo ooze bombs are super effective for wolves

[wide zodiac]

I like to dig a crater around the entire vein so I can get every last drop of copper. It takes me a while because I end up watching YouTube videos in between the time waiting for my stamina bar to recharge lol

[half dragon]

very tempting to do that for sure

[paper marsh]

I could never do that. Mining things is enough time for me, don't wanna have to transport them too

I just set up my base near important resources. Like a early meadows base right next to a black forest copper vein, or a later base preferably in a meadows patch next to crypt infested swamp and with tall mountain nearby

[wide zodiac]

In my last save I built my base on top of a hill in the middle of the island. It was hell pulling carts full of ores to my base on the hill

now i only build bases next to the sea

[half dragon]

I've been living in a scuffed tiny shack from meadows to mountains, I finally started building a permanent base in plains. Found relatively large island with excellent view, somewhat close to mistlands, swamps just as close nearby to mine more iron, some black forests for copper and stuff if I need more, a few mountains too but don't think I need to visit any of them

think I'll also be able to establish a really nice fishing location with bridges in relatively large area so don't have to use that damned boat

[paper marsh]

ooh sounds a lot like my plains base

Only problem with my base is that I've near-eradicated all the black forest nearby so I'm starting to run low on wood

[fast arrow]

Hey guys, when Ashlands update drops, do we have to start a new world or can we continue with our current world with no problems?

[half dragon]

establish a wood farm? That is great permanent solution to wood problem

[paper marsh]

You can continue. World will update any area you haven't discovered on the map yet (so even if you've been to ashlands on your world, just that tiny patch won't update, but all the unexplored ashlands will)

[half dragon]

alternatively, you could cut wood in another world. I prefer not to ruin the view in my world, even if it's a location I rearely visit

can bring wood and stone through portals anyway, not too big of a deal with bring them along when swapping worlds

[paper marsh]

I hate the idea of world swapping, dunno why but it just seems off to me to use one character on two worlds. I'll always start a fresh world with a new character, and stay on that world with that character

I am playing no portals which is where my wood issue is coming from

I wish I could make ballista ammo without wood

[half dragon]

ah, if no portals then probably shouldn't world swap either. I think the only way to fix your problem is planting trees somewhat close to your base. Far enough to not be an eyesore but close enough to be able to reach it quickly enough

[pure plume]

Sometimes night runs through black Forest give me more wood from gredwarves than i get from chopping trees

[paper marsh]

Good point. I do need to go plant all these trees. Will prob plant them close tho so I can just go right out and chop 'em

[pure plume]

But that's when You have the wolf cape so night debuff won't apply

[half dragon]

what is fun about playnting trees is how efficient it is to cut them down... they do a lot of the work for you

[paper marsh]

I wish there was a mistlands tier battleaxe so I could oneshot 5 trees at once

[half dragon]

nothing more fun than watching cutting down that 1 tree cause a massive chain reaction

hopefully ashlands tier battleaxe

and hopefully an Atgeir too...

[paper marsh]

I hope there's no atgeir

I'd say I hope for no swords either because they've been represented in all biomes but meadows, but I already know there's gonna be swords

[half dragon]

pretty sure I've already seen the sword before mistlands was added, or at least an early version of it

[pure plume]

Maybe dual wield axes

[half dragon]

it's more understandable for earlier tiers, but with these latest tier weapons it's complete ass to not have a weapon with specific weapon builds due to not having an up to date version of the weapon for at least a year

[pure plume]

Mountains spear looks more basic then flint one

[paper marsh]

that sentence doesn't make sense to me

[half dragon]

I was fixing it xD

[pure plume]

Up till iron it was progressing visually and mountain looks like downgrade

[half dragon]

mistlands spear looks great tho

[pure plume]

I know later on its progress again But the fang spear being better then iron just won't fit for me

Animal tooth being better than iron

[half dragon]

that tooth must have come from some ultra rare tri pentragram wolf, a rare species with teeth made of titanium

[pure plume]

Definitely xD

[paper marsh]

I still don't get it

[half dragon]

long story short, no new weapon for year, big mad

[pure plume]

I somehow understand the meaning

O than i misunderstood xD

[half dragon]

I kind of changed my mind mid sentence how I was going to phrase it and it became a mess

[pure plume]

I undesrstood that You mean no skill in weapon due to lack of it on previous tiers

[paper marsh]

I still don't

Big mad if ashlands doesn't add a new weapon that doesn't exist in any other biome?

[half dragon]

a weapon to existing weapons types like sword and Atgeir you're wishing to not get one

that's going to be at least a year of using a subpar outdated weapon

[chilly bone]

im guessing when ashlands gets released, we will have to use a new game seed?

[half dragon]

or completely abandon the weapon

[pure plume]

Not if You didn't touch ashland in your current game

[half dragon]

even if you do, only the areas you've explored will be scuffed

[chilly bone]

damn i never saw that

[paper marsh]

this is still sounding so confusing to me

But I think you're just saying you want a sword and atgeir in Ashlands

[half dragon]

well yes... because that would be a whole damn year to get an up to date weapon. Until then you either use a crappy weapon or not at all

[paper marsh]

Hmm I feel like the game should be balanced based on its final state, not the current one. Eventually Deep North will be out

And it just feels like some weapons have advantages by not skipping any biomes, which feels unfair. Atgeir does skip plains which is nice, but sword is just in every biome already

[half dragon]

it was unfair in the past so it should continue being unfair so everyone gets fucked over equally?

[hearty niche]

LOL Ulf's "F these mountains where everything wants to kill me, that sunny plain below looks safe" always cracks me up.

What if Ulf is the end boss

[half dragon]

even in the final version ashlands probably going to be the 2nd last tier of weapons, don't think that's too soon to start equalizing weapons

[pure plume]

Maces are even more available

[heady parcel]

Well, devs have said that not every tier will have one of every kind of weapon, it is by design. We can think what we want about that design choice, but that's how it is.

[half dragon]

that applies to current biomes but doesn't have to apply to new ones

mistlands already showed they will only expands how many weapons each (new) biome has

[paper marsh]

It should be made so one weapon is not better than the other. For example I feel like flesh rippers suck because they don't have a black forest, swamp, plains, or mistlands variety. Swords are undeniably better all around because you can make a version of them in every biome

Flesh rippers are a bit of an outlier, but same point. Devs puts gaps in weapon progression for each biome, but just feels like some weapons get overly represented (despite already being very commonly chosen weapons, like swords and maces)

Magic and crossbows and such I'm okay with being introduced late as long as they keep getting versions in the next biomes

[pure plume]

I actually don't like magic so late since it just doesn't feel right for me to suddenly from melee or ranged warrior become a mage just cause You found some funny stuff in new area

[half dragon]

magic has an obvious lore related reason why it appears so late, kind of. No food items and no materials to feasibly use magic earlier, although they could have done it differently, but no really need to change that

[hearty niche]

Midlife career changes are a thing hahaha

[heady parcel]

I wouldn't do magic if it was thrown at me at the spawn stones, it's just not me

[half dragon]

presumably magic will not feel that late when we got those last 2 biomes

[pure plume]

You encounter mage enemies since black forest so it doesn't fit

[uncut bough]

oh no, OH NO, bat raid happens when i am relocating chickens

[pure plume]

Maybe if they impemented some rough basic magic earlier and then actual magic in mistlands

[hearty niche]

Yeah I thought the late introduction of magic was a problem for that, you just don't have much time to ramp the skill up

[half dragon]

that's a magical creature... a bit different compared to human that isn't born with magic

[uncut bough]

can bats fly thru wall? i am letting them breed inside the house

[hearty niche]

But also hard to imagine how to introduce it earlier in the game

[paper marsh]

Not unless there's holes in it

[heady parcel]

The game knows. It always knows...

[uncut bough]

OH NOOOO

[pure plume]

Boss or night spawn dropping materials for crude staff

[paper marsh]

I think magic is pretty powerful at 0 skill so I don't think it causes an issue not having skill in it

[uncut bough]

i was wishing in my head that the bats dont come and it did

[pure plume]

Probably cause of late introduction so it doesn't feel poor compared to already trained skills

[uncut bough]

I CAN HEAR THE BATS OUTSIDE THE HOUSE

[half dragon]

when in doubt, pray to smiffe for good luck. It worked for me to get 90% tailwind for my previous voyage

[fallen zephyr]

They can 'hear' you better.

[uncut bough]

the game trying to gaslight me into thinking i stirred the cauldron

[heady parcel]

Seeing as the whole gear progression is us discovering better and better things along the way, and mistlands magic gear is based on eitr extracted from stuff not encountered until mistlands, how it is designed makes perfect sense.

[half dragon]

^

[hearty niche]

You stirred the cauldron but you forgot cuz you were smokin' greydwarf bark

(I presume smoking greydwarf bark makes ya dumb cuz... well, look at the greydwarves)

[fallen zephyr]

I'd be more inclined to agree with the game if the event was 'chased the dragon'.

[half dragon]

I would love to have magic from the start since I always make a wizard character first in games that allow it, but... even with that I still believe it's probably for the best to introduce magic much later into the game, mostly lore reasons tho

[balmy python]

the only thing I ever used magic for in this game was clearing crops

[half dragon]

I think my plan is to just make another character for using magic, give it mage stuff from the start but not tools or other weapons, and kind of have a "new game+" kind of run with it, still going through the game but more OP early on

(same world)

[half dragon]

do you have loicense for that? Only atgeir harvesting allows here

[balmy python]

atgeir's not bad, hammer is better imo, but I always end up damaging my garden wall with it

[half dragon]

might be a bit slower tho. Atgeir has a nice 360 sweep and presumably use less stamina, while also swinging a bit faster? probably... haven't really checked

[balmy python]

you're probably right I tend to just get stuck with what I'm used to

[half dragon]

which is fine too, not everything has to be done optimally as long as you enjoy doing it

[fallen zephyr]

Anyone that lets their enemies approach them from any angle needs to learn how to combat. 😛

[uncut bough]

all in 1 day cycle 9 hens produces 12 eggs

at this rate imma sell a dozen eggs for 99 cents

[half dragon]

that is quite nice pace

[fallen zephyr]

Try 4 hens in good space. I get 7-9 eggs per feeding. I feel you, though, it seems very arbitrary.

[uncut bough]

I put all 9 hens in my home

[fallen zephyr]

staggers off to bed Nighty-nite, y'all.

[uncut bough]

I cant let another cauldron stirring event to vanish my 1500 times 9 gold away

[dense rapids]

We have build those egg-laying buildings that we have seen on youtube, that works

[uncut bough]

Like actually indoors breeding

[dense rapids]

yes

[uncut bough]

I will watch some of it

It is getting unbearable to hear chirping in house

[dense rapids]

It's a bit of a hassle to throw the dandelions on the right spot

[uncut bough]

Also now i just realize fulings spawn during night now, which explains my wolf army on the outside taking more casualties than normal

[dense rapids]

and since some time back they started to get grouped into one stack if you throw them close enough together, which made it hard to place a stack for each hen

[uncut bough]

And i do want them to gather in 1 spot but they just wander to wherever they want anyways and get killed alobe

[dense rapids]

we never had any wolf army outside our walls, I was too afraid they would spread all over the island

[uncut bough]

Yea that happened to me and still happening now

But i built by base a bit raid resistance so i think i can live with that

First layer of defense: wolf, second is stake wall , third is trench + stone raised wall for each half of the base

And then there is the complementary stone wall + stake wall and that is all

[dense rapids]

in practise a trench (and some meters distance) is all you need

we have a nice looking stone wall, surrounded by an ugly earth wall

[heady parcel]

I hate the earth walls, but there's no denying their efficiency - so I simply hide them inside the stone wall. Makes for massive stone walls, which is awesome in itself. You do have to go around making some repairs after raids, but they never get inside the base at least

[dense rapids]

yeah we could cover them in stone as well.... but we already have beyond insane amounts of stone that went into the base and it's wall. Still have 2 towers that need to get finished.

[heady parcel]

I wish constructed defence was more efficient so we didn't have to rely so much on dug trenches and the almighty Hoe

[alpine lily]

anyone had an issue where you lag super bad unless you stream your game on discord

its even in singleplayer for me

[dense rapids]

Yeah I was so dissapointed when I got my first troll raid after having built the stone walls, and they just smash a huge hole in the wall in one move..

Could it be that it makes your computer go in turbo mode?

[alpine lily]

idk i havent had the issue in the past just recently, but its like not even lag my character moves in slowmotion then randomly speeds up over and over

[heady parcel]

In general, I think stone and marble has way too little health compared to how much damage mobs do

[alpine lily]

but as soon as i stream it it plays normal

[half dragon]

best way to protect your building is making sure they can't get close enough to hit them, such as digging trenches or having your walls in higher ground

[heady parcel]

That trolls will level a stake wall in seconds I will always accept, it is perfectly logical. But that a massive stone wall doesn't slow them down more is disappointing

[dense rapids]

me too

[heady parcel]

Yeah, that's the point though, it makes terraforming the only valid defence really, which is sad.

[half dragon]

the other alternative is choosing a location you can control completely, such as an island or a long stretch of land mostly surrounded by the ocean, and then spawn protecting the entire area

[frigid gust]

Trolls get fairly slowed down by spikes, giving you time to get out to meet them

[heady parcel]

I mean - I still waste mountains of stone building a massive stone wall because I want to, not because I need to. The trench I dug and the hidden earth wall hidden by my stone wall is really all I need, but it looks horrible.

[half dragon]

probably is, but you're not always in the base to meet them

if you leave your base to to do stuff you might return to pile of ruble

[dense rapids]

Also it's quite nice to be in your base, and just be able to ignore any raids happening

[half dragon]

I believe I managed to make my mountain base look good, or at least decent. I'll send pics in screenshot in a few minutes

[heady parcel]

Or just walk up on the parapet and fire away with your bow 😄

[frigid gust]

Raids cannot happen without you in range... nothing is loaded if a player isn't nearby.

[half dragon]

don't need raids to spawn 1 troll

more than enough to delete your base

[heady parcel]

Note - do not forget to click "yes" in the dialog when logging out for the night, or you might actually return to a pile of rubble

[dense rapids]

sounds like you speak from experience 💔

[heady parcel]

Aye, I don't recommend it

[dense rapids]

It's crazy to jump from 6fps to 80 😅 Helps to get out of the base, and also actually plug in my laptop charger

[half dragon]

What I did to protect my base in mountains #screenshots

[ember panther]

I've found the best way to keep trolls away is spacing a bunch of stone pillars around the base, enough that you can run through em but trolls can't. Core wood poles would probably work too

[heady parcel]

Nice! Mountains is more forgiving thanks to the snow!

[twilit ermine]

anyone up to make a server

[half dragon]

it's possible to do something similar in other biomes too, but it's a lot of work. For that reason it's best to pick a corner where your base is surrounded from 3 sides by the ocean to make it cheaper to build your defenses and still make it look decent

What I plan to do in plains is raise the ground around my base a bit and lower it a bit outside of my base, turn that into a river

a steep wall that isn't too high on my side of the "river" and a normal slope on the other side of the river

again... a lot of work but it does look decent enough

[heady parcel]

My current base is built on an island that I just raised the edges to put my wall on, and dug out around it to make it swim deep

[half dragon]

yea does work really great

[heady parcel]

Then the cultivator can be used to make the rocks look more natural, thank gods

[pure plume]

That's what I do with the slopes

[half dragon]

yup... btw one time I had to make the water deeper in a large area to make that harbor suitable for a longship. NEVER, again.

I had already built everything else in the area...

[heady parcel]

It is very, very frustrating. I have a suggestion about that in the suggestions channel...

[half dragon]

nothing more frustrating than high waves when you're trying to deepen the harbor

[dense rapids]

go check in #1024264966712340510

[twilit ermine]

did

[heady parcel]

If he would just keep the damn pickaxe in his hands...

[half dragon]

after doing that shit for 2 full irl days I just gave up and just opened the console a little bit... and l flew under water to keep myself steady 😂

[dense rapids]

would you hold onto a heavy pickaxe if you got hit in the face by a big wave?

[heady parcel]

Well I wouldn't teleport it to my back

[half dragon]

I would... that wave isn't going to make me suddenly not be able to grip it

just wouldn't be able to swing it

[heady parcel]

And yes, holding on to one thing with one hand and using the other to swim works fine, never dropped my rifle in the military days 😄

[dense rapids]

2 star neck has a very nice purple color 💜

[heady parcel]

Yeah exactly, I'm fine with the waves interrupting my digging, but having to spam R to get my pickaxe back that second I can use it before the next wave. Aaargh!

[half dragon]

kinda wish could tame them, funny little guys

[pure plume]

Yea i was so frustrated when removing boulders in water

[heady parcel]

I love their unhinged aggression, regardless of the size of what pissed them off

[pure plume]

I found nice natural harbour area but the freaking rocks

[half dragon]

life hack I discovered when mining area near the edge of water is that if you're constantly moving towards the direction of wall you're much less likely to be interrupted by waves

[heady parcel]

Lox comes lumbering - Neck: GET THE HELL OUTA MY POND!!!

[half dragon]

but have to touch a wall for that to work

[uncut bough]

man mistland food is so jotun puff heavy

[pure plume]

Wish we could block the water for some work on the bottom

[uncut bough]

i think imma just lean back on Plains tier food anyways

lox pie and wolfskewer has worked out well thus far

[heady parcel]

Lox pie, serpent stew and salad is my standard food loadout right now. Limitless mats more or less, and good enough for mistlands

[pure plume]

I visited lots of mountains and still no onions

[fast arrow]

guys how big is the valheim map (even after the upcoming ashlands update)? like scale-wise. Compared to Conan Exiles' map for example or other games

[pure plume]

314 square km

[quaint jewel]

That's almost 16 times larger than Skyrim.
https://valheim-map.world/?seed=&offset=-2767%2C-403&zoom=0.800&view=0&ver=0.217.22

[half dragon]

meanwhile I checked the first random chest and found onions. RNG be like that

[quaint jewel]

According to Google: Conan Exiles is 53 square km

[pure plume]

Yes but this is rng generated map so it might feel empty from time to time

That's why I'm not a fan of comparing it to other games

TES Arena was way larger but mostly empty

[dense rapids]

good point

after a while you feel like you have seen all the biomes

[quaint jewel]

Either way... the map in Valheim is huge. It takes several months if not more than year to fully explore 🙂

[pure plume]

Hand made small map world might be equally entertaining

[dense rapids]

more than a year I would say

[half dragon]

you do still find some more unique looking locations though, they're just rarer

[pure plume]

4 real hours to walk from side to side if we believe the google

[dense rapids]

We once made the sailing trip from center to the edge. It's a decent trip but doable. Walking it would probably suck

[pure plume]

It's 8 in game days walking without rest not taking into account oceans in between

[regal spoke]

Exploring to find even subtle differences. Or just the variety of drauger villages and the like.

[half dragon]

shape of the terrain and what's around it

[dense rapids]

yeah true, I still stop to bewonder nice views, and love finding villages

[azure yacht]

10,500 meters from center to border

[regal spoke]

My hunt is "perfect stone circle" locations.

[half dragon]

for example, I found a mini ocean in plains biome, basically lake but it has an ocean in the center

[regal spoke]

Awesome

[half dragon]

unfortunately not very good spot to build a defensively base though...

it's possible but would take way too long to make it look decent

[dense rapids]

I've been thinking I would like to build my real life house in valheim, but then I'd want to find the optimal combo of landscape and biomes to represent the real area. That's a bit tricky to search for

[rain flare]

Oh I so LOVE the sound of thunder in the mistlands ❤️‍🔥

[dense rapids]

it's creepy

[half dragon]

possible to change the landscape, but obviously takes a lot of time and effort if the area isn't similar enough

[rain flare]

it's magical ❤️

I know it's been a bit of a hit and miss for some people cause it's bloody hard to establish yourself in the biome, but it is so very much worth it

[regal spoke]

Need at least a tiny island as root point to work from

[rain flare]

if the ashlands has the same dedication and effort put into it as the mistlands it will be amazing

[vocal rivet]

I have no doubt that it will.

[regal spoke]

Atmosphere looks pretty sick so far. But being in it is everything

[half dragon]

you could say that it looks pretty lit

[regal spoke]

The biome will no doubt be a hot addition to the game

[half dragon]

found a relatively large island very close to a larger mainland, think I'll be able to connect them with bridges between tiny islands between them. It will be really good base when it's done, no ugly defenses and lots of land to use to build a lot of nice stuff

just have to be careful with spawn proofing

[regal spoke]

That is an ideal layout. A village spread across a chain of islands is fun

[rain flare]

that sounds amazing 🤩

[regal spoke]

Sildarflame, your pfp is from in game?

[rain flare]

It is

[regal spoke]

Looks sick

[rain flare]

it's my mistlands base

[regal spoke]

That lighting is on point in the space

[half dragon]

my base could use some light... but metal is expensive. gamer cave it is

[dense rapids]

Resin is cheap, and a pain to refill

Why not just a lot of fires?

[regal spoke]

Tons of fires do add up on fps

[dense rapids]

More fps the better 😛

Hildir doesn't seem to have any last name or anything right..?

[half dragon]

setting point lights to 0 should help with that

[vocal rivet]

Not that we know, no.

[rain flare]

I don't think dverger have last names 🤣

[grave wagon]

Today will be day four of trying to find my corpse on my no map run. I've probably put in about 8 hours or so sailing around trying to locate where I died.

[rain flare]

Maybe clan names?

[half dragon]

think it used to be very common to not have a "proper" family name, only rich people did until some point

[vocal rivet]

Maybe it's Haldor Haldor and Hildir Haldor?

[half dragon]

Haldor of I have goods if you have the coin

[dense rapids]

they are family, so would be nice to see that in the name somehow? Mostly wondering because I want to write a message in Hildir's name, and sign it.

[vocal rivet]

Family names came into existence when communities started to interact with other communities and suddenly a single name wasn't unique enough anymore.

[dense rapids]

Sweden has the next level problem where sometimes firstname + last name is not unique enough anymore 😅

[rain flare]

LoL
I can imagine
Have like 50 johns in one community - kinda gets hard to figure out who you are talking about 🤣

[vocal rivet]

Could be worse, could be Denmark with an approved list of names!

[uncut creek]

hi guys

i have a question

did you have the same problems like me

when you start searching a infested mines

[vocal rivet]

Slowmode is going to hurt like this.

[uncut creek]

and you finally find

it has only few black cores, 2 or 3

?

[pure plume]

I had ones with 0 cores

[uncut creek]

mee to

[pure plume]

It depends on how big the mine is

[light moat]

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to find infested mines with lots of black cores sometimes, just RNG.

[half dragon]

What should we do? His name is not not on the list.

[vocal rivet]

It's RNG I'm afraid. Fortunately there are plenty more.

[uncut creek]

they are very hard to find and there is 0-3 blach cores

[pure plume]

Generally I believe it was known issue that dungs generate improperly

Too small and with wrong connections between rooms

[light moat]

In my case, I didn’t have too much trouble finding infested mines, but I did have to search many mistlands biomes because they were very small.

[half dragon]

think dungeons should have a minimum size. doesn't have to be big but should have at least something

[pure plume]

Like sunken crypts still have 3/4 of enemies spawned in a way they can't reach You even when You fully enter the room

Most draugr I find there are stuck and ready to be killed

[light moat]

You can deconstruct work stations to build others, and effectively cycle between stations as needed with only 5 cores. But I understand that might not be a preferred method.

[uncut creek]

i think finding turnip seeds is easier to find than that

[vocal rivet]

They do, zero.

[pure plume]

Wasn't it 16 for mines?

[vocal rivet]

16 what?

[pure plume]

16 rooms at minimum

[uncut creek]

and they must have at least 2 black cores

like the burial chambers

[pure plume]

Yet they still generate with 0

[vocal rivet]

Where are you getting this from?

[uncut creek]

yeah everyone has the same pain

[uncut creek]

me poland

[vocal rivet]

That's... Not what I asked.

[uncut creek]

i see

[pure plume]

I was sure it was on wiki but it might be some reddit discussion I saw

[uncut creek]

sorry nut my english isnt is too perfect

[vocal rivet]

Well, you can safely ignore Reddit.

[pure plume]

Still going through some dungs makes me sure they were not generated as intended

[vocal rivet]

Are you on the PTB?

[pure plume]

Yes

No mods

[vocal rivet]

That's a known bug.

Also, #valheim-public-test is the best place to discuss the test.

[pure plume]

Sorry my mistake. Was sure PTB was supposed to fix issue existing in stable not introducing new one

[half dragon]

each fixed bug introduces 3 new bugs. Whack them, watch them multiply and eventually get rid of them since they lose their ability to multiply 😂

[uncut bough]

damn chicken eats food so fast

i chucked 100 birch seed that i stockpiled since i started the game into a group of 4 chicken, after a day it reduced by about a fourth or a third

that kind of eating speed blows wolf or boar out of the water

[half dragon]

you can feed seeds of farmable plants too, no?

[light moat]

Why would you feed them birch seeds? 😅

[vocal rivet]

Thats not remotely how testing works. Also, it's separate to stable so it will have no effect on the stable version until a new stable version is released.

[frigid gust]

Because you have too damn many of them?

[uncut bough]

yes but birch seed is better,

[vocal rivet]

They're infinite?

[uncut bough]

because i dont need birch tree ?

[half dragon]

how is it better? I'd plant those seeds and get a ton of fine wood

[light moat]

Birch? I thought beech seeds were infinite?

[uncut bough]

oh yea wait it was beech my bad

[half dragon]

LOL

[uncut bough]

the brown seed

[half dragon]

birch please

[uncut bough]

actually i threw them birch too cuz i dont wanna plant tree

[hearty niche]

I don't even need to do the sledgehammer trick in the mountains anymore. I'm 5 for 8 just guessing lol.

[uncut bough]

i can get enough fine wood by just farm boat wreck

[hearty niche]

The ground indents in a certain way over silver deposits.

[rain flare]

Put them in a tall tower so the eggs can fall down below - should allow for a speedy egg farm

Chickes stop laying eggs when there are too many in one place, but the eggs don't stop hatching ❤️‍🔥

[uncut bough]

hmmm idk i am lazy

also bat raid, i dont like that, it kills livestock

[light moat]

I always just plant extra birch seeds, get some extra quick fine wood when needed. Beech seeds are plentiful, so I’ll occasionally feed them to chickens. Acorns though, those are sacred. If we could an iron vault, that where the acorns would go.

[rain flare]

I HATE that raid with an unbriddled PASSION!!!

[plain spade]

how would you build that tower so the eggs fall ?

[rain flare]

Build a small opening so that the chickens always have to face one direction when they eat - it's a bit tricky but there are some screenshots of this in the channel

[grave wagon]

If you enclose it, except for the hole for the eggs/livestock to fall from, will the bats still get in? It would require them to path downwards and then up again.

[grave wagon]

I use a cliff for mine, rather than the tower. It's cheaper/easier to enclose it that way.

[rain flare]

#screenshots message

Check this one

[pure plume]

I set up base did a lot o terraforming around it just to randomly jump into perfect place much later. Why it's always like that?

Now I have a dilemma. Should I abandon existing base and build in new place or deconstruct to use the material in new place

[dense rapids]

Depends,
How big is your base? (/How much time have you already put into it)
How much more time are you going to put into it?
How much better is that perfect spot?
Will it bug you forever if you don't move?
Would it be an option to just have a second base there?

Those are more questions to answer for yourself than to answer me 🙂

[pure plume]

Hmmm bigger potential for expansion without time spend on terraforming so I will move I just wonder if its worth my time to retrieve mats or will it take same time to just gather them. Base is still mostly wood, logs and stone so not that hard to get

[dense rapids]

If you think what you built looks nice and you want to save it, you can keep it. I would maybe destroy it quite soon and take the stuff. But you can also just wait with that.

[pure plume]

I love the idea of having my main spot where I always return from journeys. I play no portals so it adds to the feeling