#valheim-chat
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for a main hub i like somewhere on the coast so you have easy sailing opportunities
ive become quite a good shot because of these stupid drakes
Yeah, do some exploration before you build a lasting base
I just popped my recent co-op game base to the screenshots
it needs walls but pretty happy with it atm
Looks nice
just getting into bronze now
got a couple of farms set up for carrot crops so we have deer stew, boar jerky and carrot soup
nice! no go find turnips and onions
Birch trees grown in plains don't end with the autumn texture? That's such a scam smh 
I found a circle made of huge stone spikes, do they have any treasure?
are they indestructible?
dig in the middle of it
I think so
The circles have nothing in them
Are they good for builing bases inside?
no point
You definitely can, even better build on top of them, since they are indestructible, raids are no issue other than ranged mobs
wait.. are they taller than you? short ones are graves with treasure. tall ones are just for looks
small boat shaped ones have treasures
The large ones from what I have heard were initially planned to be used for portals or something but I don't know much
Alright
Close enough

are they in valheim?
Onions in mountains and turnips in swamps
funnily enough, I thought onions were useless after onion soup. it took a year to notice the salad option. now its my goto after bread
67 days and i still didnt killed elder
finally got the server back?
my god, most likely you built something really big
i built, expanded, rebuilt, expanded, killed elder, rebuilt
so yes, i didn't built anything really fancy, i just tore through my base to rebuild many times
tf?
we are gonna go defeat bonemass on 130 or something lol
and i thought we were slow
you go faster with each playthrough. im narrowing in on queen at 776 days.
What kills me about that is how much faster it is to build once you progress š
oh it's not that I can't, if I rushed through, I would have been done long ago
Solo raids are kinda fucked arent they
Theyāre made to be dealt with solo
I have a moat so they don't affect me, it's free bow training and home mats delivery
4 Greydwars, 1 Brute an 1 Shaman doesn't seem very solo to me
i didn't have a moat then, stakewall worked pretty well against them
Thatās very light work tbh especially at a base where you have things to run around
I don't have a base
Just takes a lil getting use to stamina management
Oh are you getting raided at a mining site then?
My base is a shit shack
You can always just stand on top of it and theyāre just target practice
Wait for the poison then beat him in between it
They seem to only use it so often usually thereās at least a heal and a normal attack between poison blasts
Ye and then I get shat on by the brute lol
Also at least 2hp foods make the poison not so bad
Anyway, I died 2 times and the shaman and brute despawned
You can get a few hits in before the brutes even trying to hit you they take awhile to path and wind up. Knowing heās running up on you you can kind of pre plan your movements. Like approach shaman, hit, hit, roll away etc
Pretty easy with bronze gear
Next time you see a brute Iād practice the parry on it a bit
Itās got a big wind up so itās decent to practice on
Guys I have quick question, how many bronze is a lot
you'll use bronze for the whole game, probably a couple hundred. should keep an extra stack all the time.
I'd say farming out 3 complete nodes per player is "alot" š¤
i wish there were horses, make things so much easier
they would die soooo fast
anyone need help running black forest or swamp? kinda wanna hop in and help whoever
the server i play on is closed atm
will ashlands have dragons?
All LFG requests should go in #1024264966712340510, please and thank you!
theres walk & talk (devlog) on youtube, sneak peek of some creatures
i need to build walls, but also cba with wood gathering
not sure whether to build a pig pen, perimeter walls or a boatyard next
make a greydwarf wood farm
perlimeter walls. trust me
im not overly worried, i have it set on double resources and rare raids for the server me and my wife are doing a co-op on
saying that fairly early on we got a raid, like 20 total including greylings, greydwarves, 2 brutes and a shaman
its the grey dwarfs and skeletons constantly breaking things at night that gets annoying.
greydwarefs don't like fire btw. setting out small campfires around your perimeter helps
most likely not
was pretty tough but my wife managed to draw off a group so i could deal with half, unfortunately she died but gave me enough time to then go deal with the other half of the raid so she could get her stuff back
do torches also work?
i know about them not liking fire
im playing on a group server with around 5 of us atm but set up a new start for me and my wife to have a chill play when people werent on the group
recommend doing walls really, you get new raids once you kill another boss or explore further
we've only killed eicthier atm
hey i'm new to valheim, would love to make a friend who could play along with me!
i've killed eikthyr but not come futher, so if anyone wants to play with me lmk! š
(i don't play to rush progression i just play casually)
or however you spell it
LFG requests go in #1024264966712340510, please and thank you!
oh my bad, apologies!
will do!
I will get round to walls at some point, when me and the wife get on together we'll do a wood run
the second boss have ||trolls|| raid. But yeah, take ur time and enjoy
oh im well aware
trolls dont bother me too much tbh, tough in groups but individually very managable
those raids only starts when you kill one of those aswell. so it's boss+ actual mob
oh I thought it has to kill both, good to know
oh.. so if we don't kill fulings, we won't be overrun after yagluth?
hmm. or is it just the 'hunted' raid
Btw fun fact. Did you know that there is a monument to Eikthyr (literally him, not just some stag) in Moscow region in Russia? It was placed in 2019.
Russia surely loves valheim
I would say northern mythology in general
according to TV russians are originally vikings
Almost the entirety of modern Europe are originally vikings
as someone who never beat the 2nd boss, ty for the warning
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I like watching all 20 spawns from raids disappear at once.
yes hello, what silly mechanics are here and there to exploit?
I'll start:
- rolling logs chopping wood harder than your axe
- beehive landmines
Using a troll to mine copper for you š
I donāt think so
Only players take damage from smoke
Gas chamber for your friends?
Like a punishment for cursing in coop for example:)
I don't think any of my friends are into dutch ovens
I have a hanging cage for them.
You don't get it. It's ok.. i guess
@plush umbra gap bridges
a tiny gap in a bridge breaks pathing for mobs and they can't follow you across
but you and your cart can walk over it.
anyone willing to help me get my body in mistlands?
Depends on where it is lol
LFG requests go in #1024264966712340510, please and thank you!
That includes calls for direct ingame help~
Provide more info in your post
own broken hives still drop queen bee, yes?
you can delete with the hammer and get the queen back
Anything that you build will drop its full material components when destroyed, yes
not campfires
if enemy breaks
Even if an enemy breaks~
Yup. Watching something break your balistae is hilarious.
Except for spikes
trolls are bad at dealing with stone towers, so you can kinda cheese them, in cover. Those and the giant tree hippies
A moat is enough
4 meter moat for the log trolls! (rip Piggy-pigster}
a moat full of logs and a troll...
"removing unused assets"
what happend to the voice channels?
Ah, itās good to be back
nothing like a good ol' purge
that's for the dropped wood, right? Not logs
it's prolly neither, just unloading stuff from ram etc i would guess
so im restarting since mistlands update broke my world(that and poor server management by me) any mod suggestions?
That's one for #mods-discussion
oh
What's a mod? Can I eat it? Will it bring my clan honor?
Defeating a mod in fair combat will bring your clan honor, absolutely
You can't combat with a mod, they will ban you
Only a mod can engage in combat with a mod.
No problem :) imo, a simple stone wall is already good. We build stone + wood stake wall, it hold quite strong. As long the buildings inside isn't very close to the defence wall, it should be okay.
@gray nexus bro that wall is incredible! Iāll be honest, Iāve been struggling real hard with finding my creative tune recently š¦ canāt seem to build a decent base to save my life.
whenever I get stuck, i go into my devcommands world and play around and do random stuff using no build cost.
it helps a lot imo
or watching yt, but i don't really watch as much
Thatās not a bad idea, I should probably do that haha
I was just going to stay in the server even after it got nuked but I thought it wouldn't get fixed for a while. I am surprised how fast it got fixed.
My issue with YouTube videos on Valheim builds- and Iāll admit, this is a me problem, is the builds are almost always outrageously large or complex, or theyāll like slip in some mods without being clear about it haha
same for lox, people make uncovered lox breeders, but I made mine covered and played around until it worked
it's almost fully covered
True, same honestly
Ahh interesting.
I have considered getting mods but nah, honestly the idea of having a corrupted save scares me
I did free range lox
I think vanilla is enough, though I do want the moregates mod kinda
Grass-fed lox, better quality meat š
Fully covered lox pen is difficult, I don't have the patience to do it in survival.
i find the fact that if you launch vanilla even one time will destroy every modded item pretty annoying. Must be something that prevents that
It's not fully covered, it's mostly covered but there is 4x4 (or 4x2 i don't remember which) I have left uncovered and sorta built a tower thing up on that part to deter anything from getting in. Though I doubt bats would fly that high up anyways, it's more of a safety measure
can we post ss in this chat?
#screenshots for ss
Negative
Well, Valheim is still early access, and I donāt think it fully supports mods yet? Would rather them finish the game than cater to mods right now.
or #mods-screenshots if modded game ig
oh okokok
A lot of stuff prolly gets changed around in its current state
lmao my character had like a conjoined twin xD
Lol I donāt know what it is, but the horse mod for Valheim just looks so wrong.
My loxes are in meadows so
Lox we ride, smashing greylings we go
Somehow that sounds wrong after typing that

I remembered lox need like huge space above them so that they would breed. As for the bats, sometimes when they fly so high, I just leave it and it will despawn later.
nah mine breed fine with 4x2
I find tame lox to be more of a hassle as they destroy everything around them when they agro on virtually anything
put them in a safe zone
always a requirement in the plains anyway - unless you like squitoes landing on you unawares
mine are in a huge pit so can't destroy anything
happened to me once and I safe-zoned around 3 crafting tables worth of the area around me š¤£
I had a golem following me down a mountain the other day. I have this one tame lox that's always on the side of the same mountain. Did not work out well for the golem
Planning to kill Moder in about 2-3h more or less
Iāll have fully upgraded silver armor, draughtr fang which i think should be enough
Pack seven million arrows, a crosswood puzzle,and a sandwich
just not gonna be that easy to get so many feathers
I'm sure you could in four years time
what arrows are best against moder?
Try not to use only bow if you goes way faster if you melee when she lands
Just go under legs, and keep moving in a circle after each attack or two, I did that and she wasn't able to attack much or at all sometimes
Needle or obsidian
I do this with loxes too lmao they can't turn and just keep eating hits
Itās kinda wild to me that Valheim is at a 90% on Steam in recent reviews. 95% overall though.
Have a couple of foods that give good hp/tick like serpent stew and prepare some healing and stamina potions. Also take a frost resistance mead before the fight. I think it gives better protection agains the frost damage than the cloaks/chest armors.
Lot of complaints about slow updates or the roadmap
Yeah, after reading through some of them, thatās definitely the case. When you say roadmap, youāre talking about the one they cancelled a couple years ago? Are people still upset about that? š
The once they cancelled a few months after putting it out, yes
Literally saw someone ask about ships and seas the other day lol
DON'T BUY
game developement stopped years ago.
developers abandoned the game.
the updates are illusion to make people think the game is still alive.
This is a review by the way, stuff like this is insane to me š
āUpdates are illusionā like what does that even mean?
Lackluster updates probably. People expect live service games
I mean if it was a 60 dollar game I might expect faster but it's not. If they never added anything I'd still think its a great game and an amazing value
The game is already good value as is and you can easily get your money's worth at full price. Everything that is getting added is just a really nice bonus
I can understand being bummed about updates and deadlines being missed, I get that. But to claim that development has stopped and that the updates are illusions, I donāt think there is any evidence for that.
certainly not where there have been updates...
Right, and I feel like steam makes it very clear that youāre buying an early access game, and that youāre buying a product that may or may not see more content.
Need more bang for my bucks
multiple of them have come since I bought the game. A bit slower than I'd personally hope for, but it's not like you have to play it all in 1 go. You can always just take a break, play something else and return when you feel like it
||i didnt even pay for it, my wife gifted it to me, and its only $14 in norway||
Also started last year hunting for achievements, in games I've bought and some older ones too. That gives many games more bang for the buck if you enjoy doing it
Itās really interesting to me how the dynamic has changed, like it really seems like a huge portion of people really do want their games to continually have more content. Like imagine if Ocarina of Time just dropped a new dungeon lol
I only have about 420 hours in it so far but that's a lot for me I have only been playing a few months
that has a lot to do with games being released incomplete, and it makes financially sense in case of successful games. Giving updates motivates more people to buy the game even long after the release.
I'll use Deep Rock Galactic as an example. Sales have only gone up despite of being released in 2018
That is the power of releasing good updates over the years.
The other alternative would be releasing a sequel, which is the old model for making more money using same franchise
I hate the idea of missing out on all kinds of games if early access wasnāt a thing
Almost all of my favorite games arenāt āfullā games or I played them for years before they were full
Years of having valheim I only found out itās not a full game a week ago
and far less of them would see the light of the day if they weren't released in early access, or just simply worse than they are now with help of feedback
I feel like perspective has a lot to do with it. Are you buying a product or supporting a developer are very different mindsets
I know youāre getting a product both ways but itās whether you feel like youāre supporting vs purely consuming
I only buy early access games that I can enjoy even if it were to stop getting updates. Don't recall buying a single one that made only promises of delivering something good in the future... from what I've seen those rarely deliver.
I've never regretted a purchase, I just move on if it's bad.
Good thing this kind of people are the very small minority
Gonna find that review and report it for misinformation btw
There are some cases of devs stopping working on a game after making a lot of promises, the "It's meh now, but it will be really good when finished, trust me bro!" type
But this aint it
wasaup boys any news on ash lands
There is a lot of ash I herd. Crazy talk I tell you.
first half of 2024
Yes, that is upcoming at some point between now and June 30th
I usually assume it means close to end of that time period or delay when the given time is vague... if they give a specific date I'm going to assume it's 100% getting delayed š
Have the developers ever talked about trophy's for the different levels of enemy's? Like a purple Draugr trophy?
Thatās very true, I would also imagine that people donāt actually read those reviews and think āoh, this guy is right, better not buy this game thenā
i understand that, and i do basically the same, but we should not push this idea to others who might have no idea in what time frame to expect the update. Thats why i always give just the raw info the devs gave us
just a realistic expectation to assume that updates are released to close to end of a quarter/half, since that is when they basically always get released because usually releasing earlier than you can doesn't make much sense unless there is absolutely nothing to add to the update
i personally 100% agree with that, but it still can happen, no matter how unlikely it may be š
Where can a dude report an ingame bug?
Or the xbox bugs discussion, depending on your version I guess.
I have pretty much no food left and my plan was to go to the swamp but I donāt have enough food to survive it again
Maybe use carrots and carrot soup in the meantime? Might be able to kill at least a few draugr to get sausages and more. Maybe some turnips?
when i dont have food I do a mix of cooked meats. Deer, Boar, and then some Honey
this is more than enough to scrape by, but id definitely recommend taking the time in game to farm a bunch of carrots
Im still trying to find a good stamina food, but I think ill need to start doing the swamp first
tip: save all the mushrooms and thistle you find, it'll go fast later for cooking
Is bread good Iām planning to make an oven once I get enough iron and will do
Very
super good and worth it but remember to farm barley
i believe that bread is 4th best stamina food currently in the game?
I always make my second base/home on the border of plains and forest/medow so I can raise crops in the plains but not actually live there
Bread is so cheap it barley takes any effort to farm
Almost forgot to farm my barley
location is definitely important, in my 2nd playthrough ill definitely try not to make my first base just in the middle of the meadows, a 5 minute walk to any other biome
beginner mistake
May have been the first thing I didā¦
this is my second actual playthrough and pigs and necks keep attavking my turnips
i have 1 left!! im guarding it with fences
yeah i figured that would be some type of problem before i even started farming, completely walled in my farm
now im just wondering how you tame animals, you get the butcher knife pretty early with tin
i just figured hunting is way more efficient anyways, tons of boars and deer
if you get starred animals then it pays of imo š
I cant wait for ashlands to come out someone help me
what can we help you with xD we can not speed up the release of ashlands š
if it helps they are scheduled to release in the first half of 2024
Haha i know right, im so hyped
there should be a cape for swamp, like a green mossy one that matches root armor
i think the troll one fits quite good, but that may be just because i am used to it XD
or a hood that keeps u dry during the swamp
its cool but too bright
only good one imo is the lox cape imo
feather isnt bad either tbh
yeah but its late game
Odin cape best cape
feather is fun. I love just flying over entire oceans...
Yellow/green linen cape
teach me how to do that haha
is good for swamp and fits armor
That or deer hide cape
goodluck getting that. Feather is the most useful though I looke the look of black linen
doorclip out of a dungeon while wearing feathercape, and just sprint across the ocean.
I have it lol
I found a cave in the plains is it dangerous?
cave?
everything in the plains is dangerous.. is it on the edge of black forest?
show of š (i would love it too XD shame there isnĀ“t a way to get it)
Yes.
can u craft for others if u have it
Wonderful you think anything good is in there?
Yes
It's not about crafting it
it's about having the permissions to wear it
you can get it with devcommands, but you cant equip it
i see
a cave on the edge of black forest is a black forest troll cave or tomb that happens to be in plains
Go in and let us know
No you cant equip it if you don't have dlc active. Can put on item stands maybe though. Can spawn it in console
It was a burial chamber
mark it on your map, good place to run to until your more experienced with plains
were draugr trophies used on anything? i know elite ones are
I donāt think so
nope, but all the trophyes can be used to program ||balistas||<mistlands thing, donĀ“t look if you donĀ“t wanna spoilers š
the targeting thing?
never used any defense, even walls (big mistake) gotta love troll raids
yep
used it once, it started killing my friend who joined to check out my world lmaoo
Does sleeping make some items despawn?
Items despawn after 5 minutes unless they are within the radius of a crafting station
if you sleep it speeds up the clock - makes metal or coal cook faster as well
my items never despawned, even the ones from months ago
Was it near a crafting station?
Should items never despawn?
2 in-game days, so 60 minutes. Sleeping speeds up time.
i believe its around 1 in game day tho, not 5 minutes
I think they should never despawn unless you have too many in one area
I think despawning is ok, I donāt often find myself in a situation where Iām inconvenienced because something despawned when I didnāt want it to.
you would have to be quite negligent if it's an hour's despawn time
I had to sleep soā¦
I really appreciate tombstones not despawning, it was always extremely stressful and frustrating dying in Minecraft and be given that 5 minute timer (basically) of getting your gear back.
Playing on a server I assume
that sucks.
What situation have you encountered where something despawned when you didnāt want it to?
Man had to sleep and world was still running
I meant in game š¤¦āāļø
aaaaaah
they do despawn if you ragequit a game. happened to my fully upgraded plains gear
I donāt know if it has despawned yet but I was fighting a lox and killed it but got distracted by fulings that killed me and I forgot to pickup what it dropped so I slept for some reason when I spawned back at base
Is there a way to convert a world you own to a dedicated server?
I think so, but I'm not good at that sort of thing
if i'm not mistaken it's basically the same thing as logging in and just letting the world run
Gotcha, but thatās not really a fault of the game, right? Like thatās just an unfortunate situation that perhaps couldāve been avoided had you picked up the lox drops? š not trying to discount your experience or anything, just trying to try another perspective.
Oh really? I did not know that, good info.
yeah if you insta ragequit game doent drop the tombstone
But if you give it a few minutes, will it be ok?
Yeah not really itās fault except it decided to send a hitmen squad of fulings to kill me in the middle of a dual with the lox and I was stupid enough not to quickly pickup the stuff
If you quit a game without saving, especially a crash-like way of quitting, then things may be lost. This is generally true for games.
Has nothing to do with despawning mechanisms in Valheim.
game knows when you are about to end a fight, almost depleted, with your food almost gone, no potions or help nmearby. Thats the best time to send fulings
World might not save (tombstone) when you die and ragequit but character(inventory) might not
you can use old saves, the backups. just rename them
its like going back in time. U can keep world as is, just character
So hypothetically then, if thatās the case, could the inverse be true? Can you loot a tombstone, crash/quit, thus potentially saving your character but not your world? Potential duplication?
Doubtful
Iād imagine it would be unreliable for sure lol
Easier ways to dupe on a server
yes, my armors duped this way by accident
literally me
Bummer! Accidentally got a free set of maxed out wolf armor! Well, it would be wasteful to throw it out š
well, unless you are playing with more people or you die often i donĀ“t think there is much point in duping armor and weapons š
Easier to just spawn in extra armour than carefully quitting the game just so to possibly dupe them anyway. :p
Oh 100%, I agree entirely. BUT, if it happens, it happens š¤·š¼āāļø
just armor stands.. i just threw mine into ocean
you can at least have nice armor stand with it in your house š
yep
Right, I was just wondering if it was a possibility is all š more just about inquiring about world save/character save.
I used to think I had the biggest brain in the world as a kid when I would save scum in Fable to get upgrade stones or whatever they were by exploiting world saves/character saves lol
Yeah, theres far mire consistent ways to multiply your stuff than that
do new trees grow randomly?
you can plant them š
Depends on what you mean
The only new trees that grow are the ones you plant.
big trees do make baby trees
They dont
oh so those small ones dont grow big?
Nope
And you can't replant the small ones.
The small trees do not respawn, and there is no way to reproduce them. ||unfortunately ||
post it in #1024264966712340510 maybe š
Is there a way to avoid monsters to attack my base while i am away? i had it happen a few times now, when i came back something was destryoed
if you are away from you base the mobs are not able to attack tho...
weird, my ship and carts were down
Btw, wich one is the next area after Dark Forest? ive found Swamp and also snowy Hills on my Island
the wolf did two hits to kill me xD
there was also a spider tree something following me from swamps
i ran for my life
my opinion about mountains hasnt changed, i still dont like it
i cant move in this god damn snow at all, transporting ore is hell
is it necessarry to go there or is it possible to get same ressources from another biome?
I like them more than swamp tho
i dont. ive got about 250 silver and transporting it by cart is impossible
Mountains is definitely my least favorite biome
The only biome that practically requires gear to move in
Flying archers everywhere
laughs in trail of campfires.
The first time I saw someone make campfires up the entire mountain I was so dumbfounded
well im hoping plains is as not as easy to deal with cause this was a walk in the park besides the transporting ore part
We hadnāt fought the elder yet and they had no idea how the biome progression works. They played like 6 hours without me and I find them with an entire mountain base covered in stakes saying these puppies bite hard
having only cart as transport just seems awful
if the path is not flat good luck moving anything with a cart in mountains
hell, i just got You are being hunted because of this crap cart isse, I guess Its good I have a stone golem as company.
i doubt plains is much different
Plains are not that bad. I prefer them over the mountains and definitely over the mistlands. Mistlands are pretty yes, but only when you are able to see something, which is rarely the case.
Did anyone ever make a poll or smth about 'which of the biomes is your favourite?'
Just wondering
i dont understand how is cart only available transport in a biome that has the name Mountains
I actually don't have a crisp idea of what other people like more or less in valheim
The Eikthyr power and the belt are your best friends in the mountains when you need to transport silver. Another option is to make metal transportable through portals
if i make metal transportable through portals i might as well spawn 300 iron because thats the whole point
well i guess trolls can raid your base :/ really cool and balanced for solo play, everythings destroyed
I used to mine silver next to the mountain slope. Put a cart at the edge, put everything in the cart and then pushed the cart. It's a nice one way out of the mountains.
not a very well thought out biome clearly
There are new food types in the mist lands right?
Does anyone know what point of progression troll raids can start appearing
because I dont feel like i could have possibly been prepared for that as a solo player
depends on your gear
just bronze :/
trolls barely damage me
If you have defeated the Elder and have killed a troll.
nice
So protect them
trolls don't employ the best detectives you see
The wiki says its Elder + troll https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Events
troll has to die
the trolls that raided me seemed about twice as strong as standard trolls
mmmm what am i missing here, i see "New" In patchnotes and when i try to see it, it;s completely empty
doesn't have to be you
i could only kill one before my entire storage area and forges were gone
guess i should have dug a moat
Bow and arrow life ftw
i wasn't gonna make a moat originally
but then trolls came and smashed my newly built stone wall in seconds
so I started digging
it seems like its going to take me weeks in real life just to prepare to finally LEAVE AND GO to the swamp as a solo player after killing the elder
's always somethin
well after you do that it'll take you probably a few days to defeat moder lol
I just parry them unless theyāre holding a log
It's hard in the beginning, but now after ~2000 hours in the game, I'm speed running everything š
why bother melee when I can 2/3 shot them with bow 
For fun? š
Cuz then u use less resources for arrows
What u can use for bosses
i have more fun with bow, to each their own
I tend not to use special arrows for most stuff tbh wood arrows are enough for trolls in plains gear and well
let's see
Bronze dagger with bronze buckler better btw
i cant parry trolls ive tried
their timing is weird and theyre too rare and strong for it to warrant me trying, easier to just bow
Still it doesn't matter how u play if u get fun from it
i am carrying silver manually to the cart that is on the edge. using cart is useless
If u play hardcore mode, and here 2 star troll u should better forget about parrying it
But u can try with the most defence and the last max level shield
- bonemass ability
yeet the cart off the cliff, the cart gets destroyed but the boxes containing the silver wont and roll down the mountain
U can try use drakar to transport loot from mountain to the down
What weapon(s) do y'all like to use on The Queen?
If youāre on very hard you canāt even parry a normal troll
laughable really
I can rather consistently except for the ones with logs. I donāt know why but I canāt seem to parry them. Iād see why you wouldnāt be able to though
flint dagger
pfft. I atleast use copper
After a certain amount of damage things canāt be parried without higher gear I think
Imagine last boss of the game if a huge log what falling to u after u use boss spawn
Whatās drakar
lox prolly?
Iād parry it
Longship
Oh okay
On a mountain?
interesting
Yeah its strong to survive
I thought they couldnāt be placed on land
pressing shift allows u to place on land i think
Bout to go hammer mode and cover a mountain in boats
lmao
if i remember correctly you can put them on land via bathtub
i cant wait to get the f out of these mountains. what a god forsaken biome this is
nah, shift spawns them in the air, so you can do it over ground
If they add ability to use two different weapons then u can beat this boss 2x faster
RUN OUT OF STAMINA 2x FASTER YOU MEAN
Have you found any cave? You might like the caves in the mountains becaues they provide interesting things.
dual wielding weapons are in the game, but swords or clubs for example will most likely never be dual wielded
Why not, u don't wanna play like hero of the shield?
oh its not what i want š its what the devs want š
this biome has soured any good feelings about anything in it
Imagine they add shield what can be use like a wepon
Yeah
i mean the fact that people think its acceptable to only have cart in mountains is funny
Hm? You can have carts in any biome.
Yeah, even in the sea
i am saying they are mostly useless
They're great for carrying resources long distances.
U can use them as storage in the boats or in the base
In the mountains? š
yeah if the terrain is flat
Mostly, but portals still better
That's what the hoe is for.
good luck with that when you're in proper mountains and not just near a big slope towards the coast or black forest
Or if u play with friends u can carry him with the cart
Or harpoon if u like
In the mountains you can just lob it off the top.
i had to destroy the cart then tumble the cargo to the actual cart which needed to be near an edge.
but mountains seems overall a very lackluster biome
Mountains is a common favourite biome.
i dont know who has it a s favorite. its really boring
To be fair I had my share of transporting metal by foot and ship. Now I just use the portal. I wouldn't like to waste several hours just to move some silver.
Not all of us are in a hurry. :>
It's funny with friends but if u play alone it's become a routine
Ain't nobody got time for that š
If you're playing solo you need fewer resources.
So u turned off portals in your world?
there wouldnt be a need for that if there were actual proper transport options.
On my current main save, yes.
š
The cart, the Lox...
the cart is useless in mountains
That's a very odd definition of useles,s but sure.
Imagine someone recreate aot island map with mod what adds titans
Is the world flat? š¤
I don't really bother with the cart to be honest.
In valheim yes
Yes
Knew it.
If it was for the earth it would've still being yes
Huh
I know why we can't have cats now. If there were cats on a flat world they'd just push everything over the edge.
Man u forgot to take your pills
it is useless if i cant use it to transport silver through the mountains. which you really cant unless you are dealing with some perfect terrain which you wont because its mountains
But we have infinite flat world so they can create a bags where everything would be moving to the edge and never get it
I thought u said it about cats, lol
You might make a suggestion in the #suggestions for the devs to add a flying transport in the mountains. Like a tamable drake for example.
Carts already fly if you push them off the top.
Flying mounts/vehicles are a big no from the devs
I wish I could push you off the top 
ive jumped on gjalls before.
i have no idea what is wrong with my longship now. it's like theres dirt on it or somethin and causing it to lose hp
Unnecessarily rude.
Sus
Why is it rude?
well the problem is that its called mountains and the only transport is carts
well threatening with bodily harm is usually considered quite rude š
He's trolling me. Trolls get only one treatment in Valheim š
I'm not trolling anyone.
i donĀ“t see any posts where he would troll you š
"Carts can fly." Yeah sure.
Yes. Have you not tried the technique I'm recommended? It's well established.
Tossing a cart off a mountian is a common way of transporting silver down to the shore.
an act of flying; a journey made through the air or in space...
Try pushing a cart from the middle of the mountain. That's trolling
the method works but its really funny that a mountain biome has no other transportation options which dont require me to send carts flying down the mountain
You know portals exist, right?
If it works, why do you need another one?
thats really quite common technique of transporting silver tho š
You can literally step from your mine to your base.
He just said it. I'm in the middle of the mountains, I can't just flatten the whole path to the edge, its impossible.
You can push the cart off the edge of the mountain, not from the middle of the mountain
i have yet to find mountain you canĀ“t push the cart from if you pay attention to not get it stuck š
It's quite common that the area around a silver vein is flat enough to move a cart with no trouble, as silver generally spawns in flat areas and not in the very hilly ones.
the silver veins are not always all in one place so it doesnt work out like that
I've lost enough time trying to dislodge carts from a rock...
Of course this requires understanding how carts work and not trying to use them fully loaded with no stamina in heavy armour. :p
or create a different transport but who care sabout that
well pickaxe is your friend in that case š
And you have to find a suitable slope with a few rocks, otherwise good luck with the cart
As mentioned several times above, you can also just use portals and teleport the silver wherever you want it.
That is not the default gameplay
That's what I do now. I mentioned it above
It's not the default, no, but if transporting things disagrees with you it's an available option.
It should be okay to have the opinion of we could use more options land transport wise
Can't really think of many other fitting options than cart and mount. A draft animal drawn cart could be nice I suppose but I don't feel it's needed.
Anyone else ever kill a deer or boar with a sneak attack by kicking it in the ass? It's pretty cool.
Perhaps if there was an additional method of making transporting silver easier, such as 1) lowering the general cost of items requiring silver 2) making silver lighter 3) giving the player further weight capacity improvements, all of which would reduce the number of trips to and from the mountain biome. Not stating an opinion or anything, just want to open up some potential options.
In Valheim? Or in real life? Both are pretty cool.
Silver feels easier to farm than bronze and iron, compared to how much you need
have you made the silver sword or the frostner? they're 160 and 145 silver, respectively š
easier to farm. 10000 times harder to transport
Yeah. One node is almost enough for one of that. Big mountains can have over ten nodes.
It's not.
Whichever.
Slightly worse than iron imo
iron was peanuts easy
Anyways, what weapons do y'all prefer for dealing with The Queenā¢ļøĀ®ļø?
Also, yeah, this checks out.
well its really not that hard to get and you get around 80 from one vein, on one mountain its not weird to find multiple of them š
i would argue that silver is probably the hardest to get material
you get the least per vein, it's extremely heavy to transport, and usually you need to venture away from your home to find a good mountain.
I also said compared to how much you actually need
And you know thats not even accounting for Silver is not just in one place but in many places. So you gotta somehow put it in one chest and go back from place to place. It's a big hassle
You need way more iron
Silver is the metal/material that feels easiest to get and use. Honestly the hardest thing about the entire tier is farming enough wolves fast enough for the other mats.
that's true, iron you need forever, all the way through the mist
Silver, you kinda stop needing so much.
You probably get enough silver, more than youll need, from moder mountains
But it is heavier as far as metals go. You do still need a decent amount of it when you are making your gear, so though I tend to find much more of it, again, it's much heavier.
I still have to run iron back to an outpost before shipping
ive got 260 of it. to make armor and get the hell out of thi s annoying biome
use a cart
Just bring the copper/bronze you need for forge and a couple of upgrade stations with you. Put up a portal in the hole after you dig out a silver vein, teleport in some kilns and smelters, and just process everything on the spot, put up forge with upgrades for level 5, and you can make max level armour and most of the weapons up to level 3 on the spot.
use a cart... in the mountains
use a cart in the swamp, it's actually goated.
mountains as well, but swamp way more so.
Yup. I am aware. Its still a run. I emptied a swamp with 84 crypts
i don't believe you anymore
Yes, bring some iron cause you're gonna need it for the forge upgrade. A whole lot of crap really
For irons case, most of the time you just park your boat at a swamp and stuff it full of iron- itās a fairly quick process, even making multiple trips from crypt to boat. Where silver requires a longer haul, usually from base of mountain to mid/top.
^
also, you get iron in the mist as well as copper, so it's not like you have to keep going back for it
the only time you do is in the plains for padded
What, cause of the crypt number? 
It's on the high side but entirely possible.
i'd love to see it
There's been swamps with over a huntred crypts. I think 115 is the highest I can remember seeing here.
jesus
its very easy to get iron, i dont understand the fuss
15, 1q5, there we go š
easier than farming bronze for sure.
i can't imagine farming 85 crypts for any reason personally
nvm, found it saved
Yes, 1q5 crypts. Or the insanely high number fifteen. :>
and crypts very often have chests which contain like 20 iron
but damn, i want one of those seeds
Its pre mistlands, it has way less now
Some seeds have swamps with a goofy amount of crypts.
oic
i can barely imagine it š
Winter has one that from before mistlands has like 96 crypts in a swamp
And honestly, some seeds have a sad low number of crypts š„²
honestly man i've played through the game like 10 times or so now and i think the most ive seen in a swamp is maybe 30
100+ seems insane!
I farmed that much cause i havent built a base, ive built a city
I've seen a few myself in-game with... many, but not near a hundred I think.
Yeah, then some are barren and just suck.
Building a city of smaller buildings sounds fun honestly. Or like a village of tiny houses.
nowdays i am glad when swamp has more than 10 crypts š
..i was gonna get up and start working on some code, now i'm going to play valheim. See what you guys do to me?
Force me to have FUN!?!
Still, I think that kinda goes to show that despite iron-goods being much more costly, it is still easier to acquire than silver, yeah?
4 castles, one of which is a bridge so long the entire thing doesnt load at once
Mountains are easier to find as you see them from further away. :p
enjoy š
Swamps can be deceptively small
hmm.. i actually don't have that much to do, waiting for a friend for Yagluth.. maybe just farm tar/iron and build š
That is big.
the waiting-for-a-friend grind š
let me tell ya i farmed 2 full sets of bronze armor, weapons, tools, and a boat waiting for a friend after we killed eikthyr
š
do you guys recommend any good QoL mods? I dont want to change the gameplay up yet, but I feel as though some QoL wouldnt hurt
tbh, the clock mod is probably my favorite mod of all
simple, just tells you the in-game time.
sounds good to me
maybe try #mods-discussion š
im really enjoying the seasonality mod
no worries š
You can look at the direction of the sun to see what time of day it is
Or moon
East is start of phase, end is west
South is midday/night
So face it and look at your minimap
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Even better: šļø
LOL perfect š
And if you have enough crafting skill then you can make this š (yep, I'm a fan of 7d2d š )
stone golem when being hunted is a wolf meat farm
can someone show me the line of code that always knows exactly where I need to sail, and then makes the wind blow in the exact opposite direction?
Remember when the server got raided
There isn't one.
It was satire good sir
We can show you the overview of how the weather will be in any biome at any time, though.
That's not the usual one. Guess it works too.
Looks like it's Jere's thing so I assume its good.
how do portals exactly work? i got the mats, but don't want to mess it up with names or w/e is needed to get to the correct ones
When you build a second portal with the exact same name as another portal, they connect automatically.
Pro tip leave an unconnected portal at home so you can throw one down and go back at anytime
You can change the name to anything and have ca connect to any other unconnected portal by changing the name of the portal you're going to pass through.
why are there so many ppl w viking beards
This is a good idea. Have an unnamed one (just leave the name blank) and making a new portal will have it automatically connect to the empty one.
Jere Kuusula is a trusted modder so that why I felt ok posting that link
Yeah he's one of the big brain big knowledge people here on the server, though I haven't seen him around much for a while.
I was not complaining. I just normally see Kirilloids posted.
kirilloid's was pinned, iirc.
(kirilloid being another of the people who's really dug into the how does this thing work in Valheim.)
Yeah, just interact with the "nameplate".
Oh, did not know of the other one. That one is what I use.
You can have one central portal and just change the name to connect to portals scattered around the world if you want.
Saves space compared to having a portal hub, but is less practical since you have to remember to change the name all the time.
Can i destroy them again to get my loot back?
Yep.
Indeed. I rely on his code dump for a lot of the numbers on the Wiki.
It's common to have a "pocket portal", i.e. mats for a portal that you have in your inventory and set it up as needed, then when you're done with whatever you did at the other end of it you deconstruct it and put it back in your backpack.
This requires having a dedicated portal for that purpose at the other end though, usually in your base.
Itās what nature intended
hey guys anyone knows how to join some good public servers?
How do i get cold resistence?
Check #1024264966712340510
i think, some kind of food and the troll gear
Thereās some nice ones in that channel
amazing thnx š
Thereās a mead in the fermenter to craft or the mountain tier clothes
You can also make a ton of campfires
Campfires are a bit ridiculous but some people have fun making ridiculous chains of them up the mountains
btw you know any good servers, that are already established?
?ashlands
aw
Idk of any that are pretty fresh I havenāt looked a lot the last couple weeks but before that I checked out a lot and the one I liked the most was war of wolves but they have groups progressing at different speeds and are pretty established. The owner does custom events like an island with a bunch of troll spawners. They also spawn in things like muddy scrap piles so the swamps donāt run out
Not everyoneās cup of tea but it was really fun to check out
Ashlands will be released in first half 2024
There will be public test beta
First half, okay, thanks.
that was what dyno said iirc XD
That was pretty spot on!
i think he did not have the "in" there, but that could be my bad memory š
mod pack?
outdated mods will do that #mods-issues
i would try #mods-issues then š
can you show me a screenshot of installation folder in #valheim-help ?
turnips will grow in the meadows like carrots do right
yep
every crop you find until plains will grow in meadows š
I need to chase bonemass away from my new house and be able to somehow get more iron, I also need a new source of copper to set up more smelting hopefully
I wonder if I can clear an "easy path" from my house to where I can get more iron so I can possibly cart it back
Why is bonemass hanging out by your house????
And what do you need copper for smelting production?
oh wait, nm, it's not copper I need, it's cores
I am right by the swamp where I first summoned bonemass
Is this the real server because I left when the server was hacked
Yep! This is the official Valheim server š
Check the pins for more info, but basically yes the server was hacked, but itās been fixed since then.
I got super lucky on that front as I do know servers that have links to other servers as a gate keep, so if I had joined during that hacking event, I may have mistakened those links as the official site and either been infected or scammed
as I only had joined this discord like a couple days or so earlier
Thatās a good point, I personally never even considered that. Glad youāre in the clear though š
the swamp I was originally at only had a single crypt, so I had to move to this swamp that had more iron
Nothing is worse than a swamp with no crypts haha

Can I ask about dev commands in this channel or is there a more specific channel for that?
what would you like to know
Is an unupgraded frostner good enough for the mistlands?
I wouldn't recommend it, but if it's your best choice š¤·āāļø
Frostner's frost damage increases with each level, which is one of the main reasons for its viability in mistlands
You can prolly get away with it still but upgrading would be much better
So I should max it out?
I like to, unless you have something else you wish spend silver on
so im using zap hosting and ive moved all my files from my server that wasnt hosted and moved it to zap and when i play nun of my saves are there any help?
I think Iāll max it out how much silver do I need? I got like 13 or 15 from one vein
Also if I sleep will enemies move away from my gravestone?
13? normally you should get like 70 or something
there's prolly a lot more left
The veins are like these 3 lines extending from a point, i feel you missed a lot
Oh well Iāll check again once I get my stuff since I died
depends if they chased you there or were they already there when you went. also if they were spawned during night or raid, they'll despawn at day or when raid is over
For corpse retrival I suggest using first boss ability to quickly pick your grave and run, i don't usually prepare for fights on corpse runs and you easily outrun most enemies
Oh thank God they should despawn then. What about the stupid deathsquitos? And yeah Iāll switch to that real quick
Did you die in plains?
Yes
I gotta have hit some kind of record, 126 iron from 1 crypt
They wouldn't despawn but you can outrun sort of
one thing though
it shouldn't be able to kill or stagger you if you get the gravestone
You gain a buff called corpse run for 50 seconds once you retrieve the gravestone, it makes you very resistant to all physical damage
use that time to equip your weapon and shield and bonk the deathsquito lol
Will the fulings despawn?
if they were night spawns yeah
otherwise no, but mobs tend to return to the point they spawned at usually i think
Okay got it, they were so I just have to worry about deathsquitos
aye
as long as you can get the gravestone completely emptied you'll be fine, but you do need to completely empty it for the buff
I forgot there is a lox or two
loxes have a bad eyesight, they'll usually not get aggroed unless you get too close
they might be aware of you (the yellow indicator) and come to check tho
but they won't sprint at you right away
If I run through the portal will they attack it?
honestly it depends
how far you are portalling away to, since the game unloads pretty much everything unless you're close so they wouldn't really destroy it completely but they do get aggroed by portals
oh?
Yup
how much hp were u
25 I didnāt eat any food because the deathsquitos were chasing me
I got hit by only one by the way
weird, though you should've come fed from home but still weird
are you sure you got the buff?

Yup also Iām pretty much out of food
it shows up as this on status bar
Yeah I got it
weird lemme try
Try what?
huh
it seems the wiki is wrong about the buff or something 
It doesn't make you very resistant, only resistant, so you'll still get hit for around 40 or so dmg

with no armor
Well that explains it so itās basically impossible to get all of my stuff unless I eat enough food before hand
sorta
but if you wanna finesse it
deathquitoes charge very quickly but if you dodge roll or sprint ahead at the correct moment, they miss. if they miss, they hover around for like 5-10 seconds, enough to equip armor
depends on how badly you want it
I also just realized I could parry them if I equip my shield quickly
getting the parry timing right would be hard, which shield is it?
Iāve done it before at least few times with the black metal shield
you don't need to parry with a black metal shield or even silver shield if you have some armor tbh
even without you could prolly make it without parry
lemme check
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ded with no armor
lemme try more hp
hm with 50 hp, lvl 4 black metal shield and no armor, deathsquito did stagger me but a normal block reduced the damage to only around 15 20 or so
even with a parry, same result
You think 60 no armor no shield is enough or should I use the shield?
60 with bonemass or corpse run buff will be enough for taking one shot no shield, but you'll prolly get staggered, buff+ shield should make it a joke lol
one thing tho
even rag armor or such will have a substantiable effect on the damage
armor is a flat reduction until 50% of damage value
Oh theyāre not even there anymore
that's very good
I killed them with a bow just now they just moved a little bit
very nice, since they're so low hp, they die to any arrow as long as you hit them xd
Theyāre kind of pathetic until they one shot you
a little tip for deathsquitoes in case you don't know, you don't need to parry them in full mt/plains gear. A normal block stuns them longer sorta.
it doesn't stun per se, they have this habit of standing in place if you block them
I find it more satisfying to parry. Especially larger enemies though. I parried a stone golem earlier multiple times until I killed it
oh no, this is just for deathsquitoes, not other stuff, i usually parry everything else
though im more of a bow player
I know I was just saying that I like parrying so I want to do that to as many things as possible
aye
parrying big enemies is fun
stuff like abomination etc you can stun lock them with good enough gear after one parry
theyre weak to slash right?
Itās funny seeing them flail about as if theyāre very confused. Iāll keep that in mind as well
I know theyāre weak to fire but idk about that
nah, they aren't but they're resistant to blunt and very resistant to pierce so slash is like a pseudoweakness xd
"weak by comparison"
i was watching some people play the game and watching them fight bonemass with neck tail deer meat and honey made me giggle
I usually carry frostner for swamps but they're immune to the frost and spirit and resistant to blunt so I specifically pull out my blackmetal axe for them
one was also exclusively using a bow for all content so it was just him farming arrow mats and running out of stamina mid shot 100x times
bonemass is best bow training ngl
I used him to train my bow from 58 to 91 in a few hours
80+ bow skill is wild
i got like 700h and only got 30 bow š
welp, ive got a long desk shift and a lotta time to kill, s'pose its bout time I re-made my entire base for the 4th time
same a bit more than 700, I use the bow a lot so it was worth it for me
been expanding my base forever. Got a castle, lower village, guarded high bridge and like 10 avanposts and forts.
All you gotta do it grab a crudebow, a ton of wood arrows and spam click
So how much silver do I need to max frostner?
don`t really need more bow, im surgical with it as is
120
will shoot a fly off a trolls head from 200m
Okay thanks
high skill reduces the time you need to pull an arrow to like .8 seconds, which is why i trained it mainly
upper body strength

I got killed trying to parry a stone golem because I worried too much š
The most stupid way I have died was against a stone golem
It was the smashing variant
Knocked me off the mountain, died to fall damage
Shouldāve knocked it back
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I got knocked off the wall i was building, right into my leech infested moat, by a rogue greydwarf with a rock throw.
I just found exposed silver!
Shitload
Yeah I got that
But ain't frontier way to overated?
You asking me?
90, assuming you've already got one.
3 dtacke
120 from scratch.
Stacks*
Took me a second to realize you were still talking about frostner. I personally really like it
Yeah, it looks really cool though
Frostner is hardly over-rated, it's the only weapon that's really viable over 3 biomes.
Except the one its unlocked in 
Frostner great. Bet its nice in fireland
havent played in a few months, coming back and seeing world modifiers is so nice š and KBM support for console
whats the best server hoster company for me and my buddies?
scalacube keeps having connection issues and is not enjoyably playable
yo fellas im new im just trying to join someone and play if anyone wanna help me out man that would be great trying to find friends that play valheim to play with
I've had good experience with G-Portal. gportal.com
Try #1024264966712340510
Thereās a ton of peeps who also want friends to play with š¤©
yup thanks man
Best weapon, even better if your playing solo, the freeze affect is just too strong
It will probably be decent in ashlands as well
But if makes sense since you have to buy something from the trader to make it
I'm partial to mistwalker
with a spear you can kill a gjall in 3 - 4 throws :3
seeker soldier's can also be killed in 3 throws (after getting parried)
and seekers you just throw your spear at (instant stun), picks it up and hits it once and it's dead
it can also stun lock lox and golems
Spears still be one of the most underrated weapons
Stillā¦.
Throwing your only weapon away is kinda stupid š
I try and reserve it for stunned enemies at close range
Like this
yo anyone playing valheim rn
Everyone logged off for the night
Digging in the archives doesnāt count
proof that it's live
just glad i rarely struggle to find it when i throw it, and when i do it's usually very cheap to replace
Theyāre afk on the home screen just letting the hours build up for clout
I am I died though so waiting for someone to help me
think i can get the passward to ur server and join
i never join anyone elses server this be my first
Yeah you got any good gear?
yeah
Okay can I dm you it? Also itās not a dedicated server yet
what does that mean
It means you canāt play when the host (me) is offline at least as of now
ohh okk yeah dm me
Check dms
Anyone have a go to guide for building round buldings?
I wish my computer was powerful enough to host a server, or i would
i wanne join a new starting world where very one is starting wit nothing and explore together
Hello, how can I get a role on this server?
google search "valheim round building guide". There's too many tutorials with different technique and skills.
mthinks most of those roles ae all filled
I guess normally some roles can get automatically assigned in the #rules-and-info channel. Like news and stuff.
The problem is that I'm borrowing a phone number to write here, because Discord doesn't accept mine.
Hit up what you want and see?
So I'm gonna remove that number in like 20 minutes, and when I don't have a role in a server, you're not counting as verified by the system.
ooooh, you may look sus to a new server then
also I don't know you personally, so I don;t know how I want to help you.
I don't remember how I get my roles, but it was before this server got hacked so... probably the role channel isn't available yet
lol tru
I left when the hack happend. These pings were just too annoying and I had other stuff to do during that time.
Thing is this server never asked me before for a phone number, and now it does.
I just need a role any will do and it will work fine, even when I remove the number.
probably it was Discord that asked it
Yeah you have to have a number added to Discord. Or you have a role in a server. Thats how you count as "verified" in this server, and any other that has that phone requirement in settings.
I got the "News" role thanks to moderator Subject I can keep chatting here :D
hi
Hello
i'd been wondering why these fulings keep attacking me in a black forest patch before the mountains. it apparently is black forest patch, plains then the mountains so im not sure how im gonna get there. i guess just run up
You killed yag ?
Yea same, im waiting for my purple tag back š¤£
what do you mean?
5th boss
nope, just getting to moder today
not sure if its a good idea to setup portal near the moder spawn but i assume its okay as long as i dont fight near it
Just take 400 arrows
should i take some fire ones as well?
Use needle
dont have that
200 obsidian ones should be more than enough
Obsidian
okay yeah thats what im using with a draughtr bow
Yea
ive got some lox meat as well that im gonna use when i spawn it
Then build frost arrows for yag and take like 500
well i hope im not getting to the 5th boss this quickly. mountains has been pretty quick
i mean i didnt have much to do, not much build material opened, mostly armor/weapon stuff
ive learned a bit to fight those annoying flies
Yea those mozzies
not that hard if you just time it it seems