satisfactory

[ivory condor]

Get to work putting down more depots

[glacial totem]

I suppose I can just transfer the full item out of the cloud onto my person, and then put that somewhere else

[ivory condor]

Just keep in mind its one item type per depot

[glacial totem]

Yeah true. Although I've run out of Spheres and I'm not ready to explore just yet. Can you add them to your object scanner?

[ivory condor]

And you cant change how that works

[ivory condor]

Yes or find them via exploring

[glacial totem]

Huh? I have a storage container full of random stuff feeding the depot and that works

[ivory condor]

Because the depot storage for that isnt full yet

[glacial totem]

I just make sure numbers are within the limits

[ivory condor]

It will stop working once all of that is full

[manic mantle]

Hey , can someone help me out sooo i jusy unlocked coal power and i have 3 normal nodes in the desert so instead of building the basic 8 coal generators plant can i somehow expand it a lil bit more cause that'd be great

[dense violet]

just build extra sections

you don't have to connect them all

[glacial totem]

build 16 or 24 🙂

[ivory condor]

Hmm idk how you'll do that, so good luck

[mortal vapor]

The 8-coal plant is because it's a perfect ratio with the pumps

[dense violet]

in general you really don't want to connect multiple fluid systems together

[glacial totem]

You press tab and it shows how many you have uploaded, out of how many max

[manic mantle]

Can't build 24 ig

[mint cradle]

ok all thats left is to connect the hmf factory and pray that it works

[manic mantle]

Can you elaborate a bit more if possible

[ivory condor]

True but i mean for feeding into the depot

[glacial totem]

fluid is voodoo

[ivory condor]

Because the way depots work, it accepts one item type at a time, once thats full, item stays in depot, generally speaking its a bad idea to try to feed different item types into the same depot because of this, aka time to go collect more spheres

[dense violet]

make multiple groups of 8.
in their own sections

[glacial totem]

I press tab, if I have 200/400 of an item already, I put 200 more in the container.

It's not the most efficient way of doing business but I'm not a pro at this game

[dense violet]

what exactly do you need to have clarified?

[manic mantle]

Like are you tryna say i don't have to link em all together i should make the basic 8 generators in a section and different section for the third node ? Ig

[dense violet]

yes, I explicitely said 'don't link them together'

[glacial totem]

Nodes aren't your problem, it's the water supply

[dense violet]

if you have 3 nodes each outputing 120 coal pm
make 3x groups of 8 on their own

[manic mantle]

That's true

[dense violet]

water supply isn't a problem

[dense violet]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[glacial totem]

water generation then

[dense violet]

nope. Still jsut 3 extractors , the diagram explains it

[glacial totem]

I interpreted bro asking why can't 3 water extractors be used for many many coal generators

and not just the 8

[manic mantle]

Maybe i should overclock 3 normal nodes to 120 and make 3 8 generators sections

[dense violet]

yes that's what I've been saying

[untold gyro]

I guess the first questions someone should have asked are, what Mk. miners are you going to use, which conveyer belts are you using, and are you going to overclock it and run it at 250%? Before we address input we need to know about output and the rates then we can talk about power and recipes. 😊

[manic mantle]

Argh I'll have to unlock overclocking in MAM 🗣️

[restive umbra]

I just did the calculations

they say the factory must grow

[dense violet]

clocking, under and over, is like the core mechanic of the game

[glacial totem]

Or mk2 miners

which comes first? Can't remember

[unkempt blade]

the egg comes first obviously

[manic mantle]

Yea true should've clarified that first my bad, well i think I've kinda figured out what to do unlock overclocking in MAM ➡️Overclock normal nodes to 120 (3 normal nodes ) ➡️24 coal generators ➡️A lot of power i guess

[untold gyro]

When he asked that my first thought was Mk3 miners operate at 600/min on 250% for normal nodes and that means I need 2 Mk. 6 conveyers running one at 1200/min and 1 at 600/min and then I can set up my coal generators to make X amount of energy.

[manic mantle]

😭 woah you can overlook to 250% ? Well am still at mk1 miners 😄

[untold gyro]

😅
Some of us might be ahead of where you are at so it’s important for us to figure out what to ask you before telling you what to do. 😅
Also, here’s a “useless” hint, your power slugs will become obsolete. 🤣

That’s how far ahead some of us are in the game.

[mint cradle]

yo so far everythings seems to be running smooth manifolds filling up

wanna see it

[untold gyro]

Show us.

[mint cradle]

i messed something up brb

[untold gyro]

That means you’re a pro player. 😅

[mint cradle]

ok pretty sure its fixed now

#screenshots

all this for 7 items a minute

[untold gyro]

How many squares do you think it will take to fill up underneath the map?
Right now, I have laid down thousands of platforms and I feel like it’s going to be a monumental task, but I think I can handle it. I would just like an estimate or a tool I can use to figure out an estimate of how big of a task it is.

[lethal pebble]

anyuone on wanna join a new game where we play on the regular

[unborn gyro]

imagine playing with people 😄

the horror

[lethal pebble]

i like playing with folks sometimes

also i keep getting stuck at like phase 4

by stuck i get to many things going a tonce

[unborn gyro]

@lethal pebblewhat if you invite someone like me into your game a know it all

[lethal pebble]

and it takes forever and i have like 7 projects going at once

so then i get nothing done

[unborn gyro]

or you know gof¨d forbid someone like @abstract heron

[lethal pebble]

i mena if u wanna join but i want to build learn and make it look cool as well not just complete the phases

[unborn gyro]

leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo stop playing sf so much

[native tapir]

Xbox players check #satisfactory-consoles if you get a sec

[unborn gyro]

my muhrican friend invited me to their ddedi server it was nice

i did not even painted their factory pink

[mint cradle]

my sushi lines aint workinggg\

the overflow aint going to the overflow

[unborn gyro]

sushi yum

why are you led and not lead

[mint cradle]

good question

[abstract heron]

what u saying that i am a blandrew575 a mini version of him or a other thing

[drifting crystal]

Hmm. Make sure the side belt is actually attached and doesn't just look attached? I'm not sure if it's glitched or just looks attached when it isn't, but I have to rebuild belts often.

[abstract heron]

hrs btw 19,494 hrs on record

[distant helm]

im lwk cooked

ive spent most of my playthrough afk

and designing builds not factorys

[unborn gyro]

you are uniqly leo the lion you just rawr around

[distant helm]

now i have over 65h of playthrough and still havent completed phase 3

[abstract heron]

is this hrs to much 😛 19,494 hrs on record

[drifting crystal]

I started soloing a 100x map. I've lost interest on tier 4, lol. I managed a 10x, though.

[abstract heron]

i have 5,655hr total my world

[drifting crystal]

Wait, 5655 on a single map?

[unborn gyro]

adddiction

[abstract heron]

yes i did have 6800hr world once

[distant helm]

(iguana gif whit glasses) not bad kid... not bad at all

[drifting crystal]

Holy hell. I'm lucky to make it to tier 3 before starting a new map. I'm only up to 1392 total, though 😐

[distant helm]

gn yall

[worn oar]

Those are rookie numbers. Only 812.25 days straight? Let me know when you finish onboarding.

[drifting crystal]

do that sleep thing real good, homeslice.

[abstract heron]

i am currently making 100 nuclear pasta per minute by hand no blueprints no nothing minus miners and extractors for overclocking

[worn oar]

Whew that is quite a project

[drifting crystal]

Hmm. I'm curious if a doggo-only run is possible. No mining, just a huge warehouse of doggo.

[unborn gyro]

where is beefalo? i need my canadian friends

[mint cradle]

i genuinely dont know whats wrong with this conveyor system\

[unborn gyro]

nothing

[worn oar]

It's shy

[ebon cobalt]

I just started this game a couple weeks ago, I'm about 50 ish hours into my save, and I'm seriously thinking about how I'm gonna do my endgame factory (I'm at tier 6) any suggestions, modular or Mega?

[unborn gyro]

play some star rupture to know dogshit belt system

[mint cradle]

ok its finally working

[worn oar]

There are multiple excellent options. I prefer hypermodular, where each individual product has either its own lil factory or floor on a factory with no mixed products.

My advice would be just don't overthink it because premature optimization is not fun

[ebon cobalt]

I just want to get basics down, like earlier game copper or iron able to be made into steel

[mint cradle]

have you even finished phase 2

dont think about end game yet

just focus on actually producing products even if its not efficient

[ebon cobalt]

I've finished phase 2 I'm working on phase 3

[worn oar]

Oversimplify it. Make one machine worth of each thing you need. Feed it into a storage container. If a new product needs more of the old item than you have, make more then. Otherwise, just leave it and move on.

Also I would suggest not looking up "optimal" ways of doing things because it's less fun and it assumes knowledge you won't have

[abstract heron]

and only balancers and belt wides

[mint cradle]

how it feels to wait 50 years for manifolds to fill

[mint cradle]

planners are fine tho

[ebon cobalt]

Yeah, I've just looked at the resource map, because the radar towers are buggy on xbox

My map goes green a lot for no reason

[mint cradle]

your gonna have to make one of these montrositys for phase 3 check #screenshots

[ebon cobalt]

crap

like the guy who asked if his management looked good or bad?

[mint cradle]

7 items per min

no the one i sent

[worn oar]

There's a dude who manifolds his fuel rods lmao

[mint cradle]

dont those produce 1 per 50 years

[worn oar]

Yeah lol

[mint cradle]

my first manufacturer of heavy mod frames is almost about to turn on

[ebon cobalt]

oh, that doesn't look too bad, I think it's just the fact I have to figure out if I want to spend 90 years load balancing things or just say "screw it" and manifold everything to high heaven

[mint cradle]

manifolds are simpler nicer

also use smart splitters so you dont have to use elevators to seperate lines

see how my foundrys are just in a straight line with the splitter looks cleaner

[hard wolf]

the only time I won't manifold is when handling nuclear waste so it doesn't stockpile anywhere

[ebon cobalt]

I like the look and ability of elevators, before i started sinking all the excess polymer I had a storage stacked to the moon so I didn't have to worry about it (until my entire grid shutdown because of the decision made)

[mint cradle]

tommorow will be the first adaptive control unit built

[mint cradle]

you arent using oil to fuel are you

just make hella plastic and rubber and then use the heavy residue to make fuel

with the residual fuel recipe

[ebon cobalt]

it's mostly fuel, but I do indulge in the turbofuel stuff

residual fuel*

would you like to see screenshots of my builds?

[mint cradle]

yep

[ebon cobalt]

it's an "organized" mess

[jolly plume]

if i have 240 limestone a min is it ok if i split into 12 different constructors to make concrete

[mint cradle]

wdym is it ok

[latent prawn]

well, each constructor eats 45/min at 100%

[mint cradle]

if it works it works

[jolly plume]

oh shoot thats how i messed up i was doing it as 15/min at 100%

thx moonchild

[ebon cobalt]

you can underclock to scale up later

[latent prawn]

if you clock them down to 88.88888%, they'll take 40/min which divides better

[digital trout]

Hey guys can someone help me I think my factory could run better but i don’t know what to change I have 15 hours of different designs

[dense violet]

really doesn't matter to manifolds, why the extra work?

[latent prawn]

that being said, mk3 belts are 270/min, which supports 6 constructors

[dense violet]

wdym 'run better' , did you not math it out?

[digital trout]

Wdym I just put splitters on the belts where they need to go

I do math for how much stuff I’m getting

[dense violet]

ok but did you math it out?
like put the right number of machines and clocking them right?

[latent prawn]

has nothing to do with manifolds, has to do with putting 12 machines omnomnoming 45/min on a 240 line

[digital trout]

No I overclocked some of the smelters and constructors and the other stuff that crafts

[dense violet]

that's still going to stutter the whole system.

[latent prawn]

that was my point

[dense violet]

ok but is the over clocking using and producting the right parts per min?

[ebon cobalt]

just take 240/12 and you'll get 20, make the clock rate so they have 20 minute, and you should be golden on what you're trying to do.

TLDR. Set all your constructors to 44.44 percent clock rate to get 20 limestone per minute to properly balance them efficiently

[unborn gyro]

lucky me i know moonchild knows their math

[ebon cobalt]

i fr just use a calc

[digital trout]

Idk😭😭😭 that’s why I’m asking

[latent prawn]

i do prefer clocking an entire line to a uniform clock rate instead of having a 1-off machine at the end

[dense violet]

ok but what isn't working right then?

[digital trout]

Just production is super slow for some stuff

[dense violet]

if yo uwant more stuff you need to process more stuff

get more nodes

[digital trout]

Can I dm you a picture of the factory

[dense violet]

just use #math-and-meta or something

[latent prawn]

screenshots channel

[dense violet]

you cna post images is just about every other channel

[dense violet]

you can't easily talk about or fix anything from the screen shots channel

that's the worst channel to post in for questions

[digital trout]

Oh mb

[ebon cobalt]

they're posted in #screenshots

[unborn gyro]

you know moonchilds saves are nice

i like them a lot

[ebon cobalt]

@latent prawn do you like the random slop i threw down in one of the screenshots?

[latent prawn]

more just acking that i saw them

[ebon cobalt]

it was worse before the great organization, i think i had a mark 1 belt, feeding into mark 3 belts, basically it was a bottlenecked mess

[digital trout]

i sent it anyway but idk if its too big or if my belts are off maybe

[mint cradle]

tuff

[void cliff]

oil barrels make pretty cool decorations, ngl

[flint phoenix]

Oh my god I love blade runners, these are so fun

[flat niche]

Mk. >>>>>>>>>> mark

[primal obsidian]

Mark 6 belts

[flat niche]

ok

[latent prawn]

packaged oil/hor is something you never see much of in the game

[latent prawn]

probably the best upgrade in the game, though they're all pretty sweet

[cobalt crater]

I know people knock the throughput monitor but it's saved my ass a few times

[tough dock]

is it a bad idea to overclock fuel generators? or not since you'll need so many so why not halve that number

[twin parcel]

nope , there is no drawbacks , u will get 2.5x power when overclocked to 250% , its the only exception .

[dense violet]

they just aren't reliable in a lot of situations and it's hard to know when it is reliable. If it's showing 100% what you expect it's likely that, but even if it doesn't show 100% everything could still be running right

if you want to actually be sure if somethign is running right, stare at the machine lights for 30 seconds , see if they flicker

[twin parcel]

the only problem would be the amount powershards needed , u could either use dup glitch , sloop the machine when using power slugs from constructors , or wait for phase 5 .

[stone python]

theres over 5k power shards from slooped slugs alone

[twin parcel]

yea , 1k shard gone from my inventory , now gotta farm again , pain .

[stone python]

i mean...yeah?

that isnt exactly an issue, so i guess im missing your point since there would be 4k shards left naturally in the world

[cobalt crater]

I'm not saying they're perfect, but it's enough to give an idea if you suspect soemthing

[twin parcel]

well i know its enough powershards in the world , its just very time consuming , the toilets really helped my ass

[sterile blade]

Throw in a picture to explain the issue, so people don't have to guess to try helping you ^^

[dense violet]

that's literally what I'm talking about
you can't know if a throughput monitor being off actually means something is off

while if you simply look at the lights of your machines you absolutely know

[cobalt crater]

Well, in my example, I miscounted the amounts of a machine I needed and didn't realise it at first. Obviously, a rookie move, but that's why rookie tools exist.

It also helps that the meter ran -10% of what I needed

[dense violet]

.... yes, the lights on the machines do that and are more accurate

anyway good luck

[cobalt crater]

Yes, lights well tell you something is wrong with the machine. But the issue then becomes is it related to input or output

[hard wolf]

or letting it run for an hour or two and checking the efficiency readout. it's kind of like mixing music with your eyes instead of your ears

[sterile blade]

You can check that immediately by interacting with a machine (assuming that can't be visually seen by checking wether the inputs and outputs are full or empty, for some reason...)

[sterile blade]

Or having balancers so you don't have to wait
So many possibilities~

The prior discussion was about not trusting "efficiency readers" though xD

[cobalt crater]

Granted, some of the issues can be chalked up to my routing being just complete dog shit

[sterile blade]

99% of issues are caused by pioneers, for pioneers...

[hard wolf]

yes, but balancing will only help if, say, you know that your train is definitely 100% outputting the number you need it to

[cobalt crater]

The other 1% is stuck lizzard dogoo

[sterile blade]

(Like when I clogged an entire facility by placing the wrong MK of belt once...)

[cobalt crater]

smoking_duck_classic.gif

[sterile blade]

And game bugs, which aren't quite as cute...

[cobalt crater]

Yeah, the stingers are hidious

[worn oar]

Counterpoint: 99% of issues are caused by spiders, mutated spiders, and nuclear hogs.

[hard wolf]

arm yourself with nuke nobelisks today! o7

[cobalt crater]

Juking alhpa spiders to throw themselves into the void makes it almost worth while

[sterile blade]

I don't get the thought process for that
We normally do know how many items come out of or are required by a setup and balancers should, at the very least, distribute those items evenly (regardless of the amount), so all the machines should have the same efficiency (if inputs are enough, that should be 100%)

[hard wolf]

it's relative, and more relevant to someone who isn't super familiar with train throughput yet, but I wouldn't trust a monitor or the station numbers with that. my thought process was that if you haven't verified train throughput, a balancer wouldn't magically fix it, and that you were suggesting that it would

[young sentinel]

so i just made a new drone port,
and,
the round trip takes 101 packaged fuel (i only have regular fuel)
but it still completes the round trip
?

there is no fuel at the other port

[sterile blade]

Balancers can help a bit managing lower-than expected throughputs, but they're custom-made and not what I was referring to, I was just commenting on the "let it run for an hour or two" part of your earlier comment (ie: with a balancer, one can check the factory efficiency almost immediately without having to wait for manifolds to overflow properly)

[dense oar]

Does console have Keyboard and mouse support?

[hard wolf]

you're right. I would just rather suggest what I did bc people are using manifolds more often than not

[trim crag]

can anyone help pls? is it worth using pure aluminum ingot alternative recepie in this
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%3A"10"%2C"Desc_Stator_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_Battery_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_Motor_C"%3A"15"%2C"Desc_CircuitBoard_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_CircuitBoardHighSpeed_C"%3A"15"%2C"Desc_HighSpeedConnector_C"%3A"15"%2C"Desc_Computer_C"%3A"20"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CircuitBoard_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_AILimiter_Plastic_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_HighSpeedConnector_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Computer_2_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteelBeam_Aluminum_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CokeSteelIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CopperAlloyIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_ElectroAluminumScrap_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteelRod_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Rotor_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Screw_2_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrame_C"]}

[worn oar]

Yes

[hard wolf]

use this instead https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

also (imo) pure aluminum ingot is for convenience, and base is for stretching your bauxite farther

[worn oar]

Satisfactory tools doesn't do some recipes like ficsonium

[trim crag]

but what is the diffrence,cuz what u sad is more complicated cuz on what I use I can see the machines and diffrent colors so I don't get lost

[trim crag]

so should I use the pure if I only wanna build the factory I sent and not else?

[grave gale]

Anyone know how to mod ts game manually?

[twin parcel]

cyberwagon sucks bruh

[hard wolf]

you should use pure if you want to make as many ingots per bauxite as possible, and pure if you don't want to deal with silica and the bauxite to ingot ratio isn't a concern. also SF Tools is really good xwx

[hard wolf]

just like in real life :3

[worn oar]

Mod manager

[twin parcel]

yea that if u already unlock mk6 belts , otherwise normal node does the job , u can go for impure nodes if u have mk3 miner .

[grave gale]

No i mean without a mod manager like can you just drag the files in your satisfsctory folder

[twin parcel]

pure is worth it , if u dont like making crazy amount of silica , and if u choose to make silica , u have to use both cheap silica and silica if the limestone is not enough .

[worthy python]

so what the difernts bewen 1.1 and 1.2 bata?

im kinda new only like 10H

[somber shard]

Im just setting up my first aluminum factory, I got 480 ingots/min what should I make more of casings or sheets?

[rigid wedge]

Sheets

[worn oar]

Casings

[somber shard]

In what ratio do you suppose like should I split the ingots equally then Ill make 240 sheets + 160 casings or like make 300 sheets and whatever casings

[hard wolf]

mk5 belts take a lot of sheets but later production lines take a lot of casings. probably sheets since you just got into bauxite

also, buffers let you stockpile

[worn oar]

Making most things requires casings. Making belts requires lots of sheets. Right now just split the machines and come back if you need more. And put in DD.

You'll eventually want to double your aluminum or maybe triple it before finishing but it's fine for now

[hard wolf]

2 to 4 industrial storage containers before your sheet depot might prevent you from having to worry about it as much, if at all

[rigid wedge]

Probably depends on playstyle as well. I use trucks for most of my transportation but when I placed down a few blueprints with a lot of belts it got close

[surreal rose]

is 1.2 out yet?

[rigid wedge]

No just in exp

[surreal rose]

alright, thanks

[tough dock]

I did the sloop machines for both powershards dna and protein. I have like 800 power shards

[twin parcel]

should be enough for max overclocked 250-ish gens i gues

[tough dock]

nah, im only gonna do 2x, cause 2.5 means weird numbers

[young sentinel]

i hate setting up aluminum

i’m looking for the alt recipe that lets me ignore silicone

i have enough aluminum for now but there’s a bauxite pure node that’s miles away from the nearest quartz node, and i can’t move forward with something big until i get this one thing sorted

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message

hmm

[twin parcel]

trains transporting silica works or just use the pure ingots + instant scrap/electrode scrap

[strange vortex]

I found 4 pure iron next to 2 pure copper and 1 Pure Limestone

[dense violet]

you could always use 2 ingot recipes, the one that uses silica and the one that doesn't. That way you don't need extras

[reef basin]

but that means you need more bauxite 🙂

[reef basin]

all numbers are fine tbh. There's nothing weird about them

[reef basin]

@dry gull don't ask questions in #screenshots , we cannot reply there

it's for showing off things

[cosmic parcel]

@dry gull #screenshots message Lots of options beyond those two. Since all your construction is relatively low-lying, you could just build a giant platform over the top and start building layer two, for example 🙂

My entire first fully playthrough, I kept my starting mall mostly untouched and just kept adding new layers, buildings, etc. Because you can build up, space is not a very limited resource in this game.

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Struggling with putting together the factory setup to produce the 2500 Versitile Framework units needed for Phase 3. Can anyone recommend any software tools that enable me to plan it out on the PC?

[minor rock]

i recommend ms paint and sending the drawing you do to chatgpt to complete a finalized plan

thats worked the best for me

[empty bridge]

thanks

all the tools I've tried indicate that to produce 1 per minute I need like 8 iron nodes!

[hard ivy]

what?
you can easily make 10/min with 1 iron node

[empty bridge]

this is what I was thinking.

I've tried satisfactoryplanner. net and then I tried satisfactory-calculator.com and that said I needed 2 x Miner MK3 to produce 1 per min

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=EFWYpXkT3EBcBOP9BIMs

[empty bridge]

Thanks. Just shows you how wrong other tools are. Where are they getting their incorrect info from I wonder? Now all I need to do is find something I can plot the factories on (inc. splitters)

[reef basin]

I have the perfect tool for this 🙂

it's called ||Satisfactory||

no

[tall lantern]

some of it's probably just not using alts, that Tools plan makes use of a few

though even with that not sure how you could make it need 480 of something for 1/min...

[reef basin]

roads are kinda opt-in, so I don't think so

[rigid wedge]

Could make the new paths work a bit better on uneven terrain then you wouldn’t need roads

[dense violet]

depends on your recipes. here's an example plan https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=OrRH6Botu77Z1pnFaCZZ

[reef basin]

funnily enough, with the 1.1 vehicles, you didn't need paths

[untold gyro]

Did you know there is no invisible barrier for the ocean/water?

For the ocean floor

[reef basin]

there's no invisible barriers in SF afaik

[rigid wedge]

Didn’t work out too well from what I’ve heard

[untold gyro]

You are sort of right. You just need to travel to the bottom of the map

[rigid wedge]

I like the path system but I dislike how much better traktor one works. Truck or universal path goes down to 15 kmh for every minor bump

[reef basin]

it worked just fine

[rigid wedge]

While traktor can drive up a vertical edge if he pleases

[dense violet]

mostly just needed to take turns slowly and the old paths were fine

[rigid wedge]

Why did they rework it then?

[reef basin]

because people complained, as always

[rigid wedge]

Never used it but I’ve seen a lot of yt content with trucks randomly flying around in the background

[reef basin]

many of the changes are done under "pressure" from people unable to adapt to how the game is desgined and would rather have the game designed differently

[earnest condor]

The entire map is already covered in pre-built curved roads.
How much easier do you want it? 😭

[rigid wedge]

Rip

Tbh I’m not even gonna try the old one because I’m scared I’ll like it

[frozen ingot]

yeah i kinda miss the old vehicle pathing system

[untold gyro]

Would building underneath the map cause problems with the game?

[dense violet]

1.2 killed trucks using jump pads 🙁

[frozen ingot]

you could drive the truck around the whole loop and that was it, laying a path like a belt is boring af

i get that it might address some issues but i always felt like the old system just needed a bit of care when driving

and they already addressed some issues with that

like if two vehicles crashed they would reset

making a little route for my first tractor to bring coal to my starter base still remains one of the coolest in-game experiences i've ever had

[earnest condor]

Same way ?U8? killed trucks unloading to multiple stations 😭

[untold gyro]

I guess not? Well, I hope you're right. My game keeps running between 20-30 fps, but I think I know why.

[glacial totem]

Can you stack Industrial Fluid Containers on top of each other? I couldn't seem to pipe the inlet of one to the outlet below

have I not unlocked vertical pipes yet

[untold gyro]

Hopefully, the million platforms I put down there, along with the 100+ Powerplants won't affect it that much.

[rigid wedge]

That’s not how that works

Pipe isn’t bound to one direction

It goes from point a to b

[untold gyro]

Do you mean the vertical to horizontal direction for pipes?

for like the path?

[robust wigeon]

There is no inlet or outlet

[robust wigeon]

Press R while placing a pipe

[minor rock]

i started watching all my movies and tv shoes with frame smoothing by AI and also AI filter upscaling, it all looks so much better. framegen we get already in satisfactory but realy need those same filters applied to the game, it would look so much better

[twin parcel]

dam i underestimated particle accelerator , i thought i had enough power storage to handle its power fluctuations , its drained my 50,000MW power storage in 30 mins , when making nuclear pasta

[robust wigeon]

Make it optional and default off and I’m all for it, I like the technology but damn can it ruin stuff too

[minor rock]

the frame smoothing on tv's is default usually

at least newer ones

[rigid wedge]

I use rails for that

[robust wigeon]

Frame interpolation isn’t “ai” in the common sense

But it is on by default

And the general consensus is that for the vast majority of people it makes everything worse

[minor rock]

yea i hope they give us like the option to buya subscription for actual AI generated frames, rather than the traditional boring frame interpolation

i dont think the tv would be powerful enough to do it locally

[twin parcel]

frame gen sucks on shooting games , artifacts can confuse ur ass .

[minor rock]

i find dlss worse than frame gen in shooters tbh, the characters turn into really weird blobs that you can half see through

[thick cave]

Man I love trains

[rigid wedge]

Who knows if they add it but so far the decorative options are very dry generally. Just saved by how much freedom they give you with the little that you have

[minor rock]

frame gen my experience doesnt do that

only matters at a distance though, and the model is small

they kind of blend into the foliage when moving

[twin parcel]

isnt frame gen part of dlss? am i missing something?

[twin parcel]

u love drones more

[robust wigeon]

Ai frame generation can look okay in some cases and awful in others, usually it just really bothers me because it’s just wrong, like it just doesn’t quite capture the movement correctly, people don’t move like real humans, and I’d rather not use it.

But there are also cases where it just feels like the quality has suddenly improved a little, so there’s that.

As for using gen ai for generating frames on the fly in a videogame, yikes, that’s difficult and dangerous, not to mention expensive and bulky, cool thing to do but I’d rather devs focus on other stuff like improving graphics the old-fashioned way cuz it’ll give you a lot better bang for your buck

[bold heron]

1.5 ai limiter per min should be enought for personal use the entiere playthrough right ?

[thick cave]

I don't have drone's

[minor rock]

they kinda just tacked on the -framegen part to dlss for branding reasons. just mean like, DLSS quality no framegen and so on

[earnest condor]

You are the sole person who can answer this for yourself.

[thick cave]

[twin parcel]

bare minimum use , 0.001 ai limiter /min is enough , else , its not enough .

[robust wigeon]

You can hypothetically stack industrial fluid buffers but there’s not much of a reason to do this - you’d need pumps going all the way up your stack (assuming you’re not dealing with gases yet), for one, and also there’s just not much reason to even use buffers in the first place honestly, more than one is pretty much always excessive

[robust wigeon]

For personal use, yes, just give it a buffer of at least one container storage

[twin parcel]

bro idk ur trolling or u actually oblivious .

[dense violet]

it's pretty easy to curve things, depends what you're wanting exactly though

[earnest condor]

Mods have everything you want.

[dense violet]

this is a very basic method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jxfy2_Iw6U&t=42s

that would suck. you'd only have like 1 size curve

[earnest condor]

Just mod, problem solved? 🤷‍♂️ Problem solved in multiple ways and covering all angles of curve you can want.

[next ivy]

isnt there already a curved foundation

[earnest condor]

Not in the way they want, but yes.

[next ivy]

the game itself can cause crashes

so avoid playing the game

[earnest condor]

Fatigue can cause crashes, avoid staying awake 😉

[reef basin]

why should you build roads

[next ivy]

you dont have to

[earnest condor]

You don't have to.
But you refuse to use the non-mod way because "too much" even though there is a non-mod way meaning you do not have to rely on mods at all...

[reef basin]

"devs should add X becuase I want it, other people can just not use it" is a very bad argument for adding something

[next ivy]

a curved foundation already exists in the game, most people dont have strong feelings about it

[earnest condor]

Being rude for no reason is a great pivot 👍

[reef basin]

that's not what I'm saying at all

[rigid wedge]

What u want doesn’t exist so you can pick a solution that exists or wait for a day that might never comes

Ofc curved foundation would be good but it doesn’t exist

[earnest condor]

It does though, just not how they want it to.

[whole zinc]

damn will satisfactory run on mac?

[next ivy]

then gather all the people who do want it, and if its enough people the devs cant ignore you

[reef basin]

while number of people wanting something is some indicator, it's up to devs to decide if that feature fits the game they want to make. Even if every single player on earth wanted something, devs can just decide that they don't like that thing being in their game

[tall lantern]

stuff should be added if it fits CSS' vision of the game and it'd be worth the time.
adding something only a handful of people wants, obviously not worth.
adding something many want but doesn't match what CSS want, won't happen
which category's your suggestion in? only CSS know

[reef basin]

fun fact: they can

[next ivy]

yes but then their game might completly lose all players

enough can mean all

[earnest condor]

Continuing with random rudeness 👍

[next ivy]

i dont know where this comes from now

[reef basin]

many devs would rather make the game they want than try to please everyone

then you're doing it in a wrong place 🙂

[next ivy]

this is a suggestion based on how some other things were suggested and then implemented

[rigid wedge]

thats why I love gregtech so much

[reef basin]

still, suggestions don't go in here 🙂

[next ivy]

then link to where they go

[reef basin]

exactly, which is why you should go to the place where suggestions are made

(which is in #welcome , which you're supposed to read)

[next ivy]

likely the feedback section

[reef basin]

🔸 Reporting Feedback and Issues in Satisfactory 🔸

Please report any feedback or issues with the game at http://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

it's there directly under channel list

suggestion is a feedback

[next ivy]

wanting a new feature because you feel like the game is lacking something, is feedback

no

[reef basin]

no, "suggestion" is type of feedback

[tall lantern]

suggestion's a subset of feedback

[next ivy]

youve proven nothing but your own incompetence

[tall lantern]

in the same way "saying dumb stuff" is a subset of "saying stuff"

that's not how you spell coffee

[next ivy]

why bring mods into this

theyre not the end all be all of word definitions

[reef basin]

no, we're telling you that if you have a suggestion, you should go to QA site

[earnest condor]

In today's Discord news:
12-year-old gets mad when people don't universally all agree with his idea.

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[reef basin]

there, it even says suggestions

[lilac monolith]

Mk1 or Mk2?

[glacial totem]

Yeah I did mean that. I didn't realise there was a vertical/horizontal R toggle because I've never needed to know that. Thanks

[earnest condor]

Mk2 Clean, Caterium Finish. 😏

[dense violet]

it'll be pointless

[fair aspen]

Hello

[glacial totem]

I watched a youtube video on how to set up fuel power generators and he recommended them. If they're pointless then I won't tell you how many I installed 😃

[next ivy]

then leave

[earnest condor]

Rudeness intensifies without cause.

[lilac monolith]

The age of ragebait is tiresome

[reef basin]

<@&387163995947270144>

[dense violet]

fluid buffers are worse than pointless, they often cause problems

[glacial totem]

🫣

I'll be getting a refund on them then

[earnest condor]

They are good for decoration 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

i wouldnt trust any information from whoever told you that

[reef basin]

they don't really do anything reasonable (other than buffering train platforms)

[woven sail]

https://tenor.com/view/move-along-nothing-to-see-here-anil-esl1-gif-21374446

[earnest condor]

All hail Bellancia

[glacial totem]

I dunno his videos seem to be reliable

Up until now

[dense violet]

at best they do nothing, at worst they hide or cause problems

[earnest condor]

I wouldn't trust YTubers for Satis advice, personally.

[reef basin]

there's tons of misinformation on youtube

[dense violet]

there's a LOT of sus fluid videos on youtbue

Like Kibitz? awful piping

[leaden turret]

are people XKCD-386ing again?

[glacial totem]

https://youtu.be/k82z0gpeCLY?si=ntxWMihqpLhdRD33

[earnest condor]

Danger link is dangerous.

[dense violet]

ugh yeah I've seen a lot of questionable spectrum dad pipe stuff

oh geez, buffers in series

[earnest condor]

How much you want to bet they are decorative and the pipe just clips through them on its way to the actual connection point? 😛

[glacial totem]

it's alright guys I'll just remove them

no harm

[robust wigeon]

Oh damn lol
Well if you’re using gasses then you’re fine
But if you’re using liquids, you’re faaaaar better off just planning such that you make as much as you consume (or just consume more than you can make, then add batteries to make up for any random shortages in power as it fluctuates), buffers aren’t really gonna do anything for you, and vertically stacking them just requires extra pumps.

If you already built it all, I’d make sure fuel can flow straight through the bottom buffer and out the other side without going all the way up, or just leave it how it is if it’s working 🤷

[dense violet]

they really don't look it

[earnest condor]

SO. MUCH. HARM
😏 😛

[glacial totem]

I installed the buffers then logged off for dinner. So they haven't really had a chance to do anything in my save yet

[dense violet]

now you absolutely can set them up in a reliable way like that as long as you know how to do it - but they also don't give you any perks. So really it's just a point of failure you ahve to manage and do extra work for

[glacial totem]

doesn't seem worth it for such a novice liquid enjoyer like myself

[dense violet]

yeah and that's my real big problem with a lot of fluid videos on youtube

[earnest condor]

I would use buffers if they had a window.

But alas.

[dense violet]

I would probably use them, fill them up, then disconnect them and make them entirely decorative again

I still put some up in a decorative way, they can give great affects in a build

[robust wigeon]

I have found two legit uses for them:

1. Extremely temporary setups, like making a couple hundred plastic without proper automation off of a handful of machines, then just dismantling them when you have enough to finish what you’re doing. This only comes up for me in worlds where oil products are already somewhat mismanaged or just not yet fast enough for my needs, usually in multiplayer. Placing a few buffers and flushing them every few minutes is (marginally) faster and easier and more convenient than converting the heavy oil residue into fuel and burning it.
2. Modded playthroughs sometimes make them useful, for example a machine might need a bunch of fluid all at once and then no fluid for a while before needing a big dump of it again, requiring an external buffer

[earnest condor]

Train logistics not being mentioned when it is their primary use hurts my soul. 🙁

[robust wigeon]

Oh imma be fr

I forgot trains existed

[earnest condor]

WOW

[glacial totem]

ok my last question if I haven't caused enough heart attacks already

[dense violet]

have more questions if you want 🙂

[glacial totem]

can I get glass platforms?

[reef basin]

let's see if it's about valves 😄

[earnest condor]

There is no limit on how many questions one can ask 💛

[earnest condor]

Shop - Frame Foundation pack.

[dense violet]

glas foundations aren't great though
I don't like the glare

[earnest condor]

Glass Foundations are amazing and Cobalt is just a hater.

[leaden turret]

• message character limit
• slowmode rate limit

[dense violet]

if they got rid of the glare I'd love them

[earnest condor]

HATE
ER

[robust wigeon]

You can get flat glass roof pieces

[glacial totem]

I'll put on my sunglasses

[dense violet]

damn straight

[leaden turret]

jj abrams photo mode filter, when?

[dense violet]

it's less that it's bright and more that it blocks seeing through them much at all?

[earnest condor]

Ending scene of Superman where Gunn used the Abrams' flare why 😭

[glacial totem]

I don't enjoy being inside walled factories, it's so grey and concrete so I like as much sun as possible

[dense violet]

honeslty most supermen are forgetable. Latest one was fun though

[earnest condor]

@robust wigeon yes. 😛

[dense violet]

you can have a lot of open industrial aesthetics

[robust wigeon]

Guh

[earnest condor]

Wel... may I suggest using other wall types besides grey concrete? 😄

[glacial totem]

haha, like black steel, orange default?

[earnest condor]

My default is yellow, but yes.

Blue Steel when?

[glacial totem]

I'd just rather the sun

[robust wigeon]

Try glass roofs and see how you like them

[earnest condor]

I like the glass foundations 🤷‍♂️

[robust wigeon]

There’s a command you can run to change how lighting works, dunno if it affects this specifically but worth a shot

r.AOGlobalDistanceField.MinMeshiSDFRadius 14

I think it’s for lights like screens and streetlights and stuff

[dense violet]

keep it open 🙂 #design-and-architecture message

[robust wigeon]

So I doubt the sun will be affected but hey maybe it will

Also value is 1-20 I just use 14

[glacial totem]

I'll buy the foundation pack tomorrow when I'm able to play again

And give it a go

[robust wigeon]

I must recommend using signs (regular signs, billboards, whatever) as lighting

[glacial totem]

The glass roof was greyed out for me in the shop though

[robust wigeon]

Research silica more in the MAM

And you need steel too ofc

[subtle flume]

Do gases like nitrogen and rocket fuel "slosh" in pipes the way fluids do?

[robust wigeon]

No

They behave totally differently

[subtle flume]

Ok thanks

[robust wigeon]

They try to equalize everywhere ignoring gravity

They do not need pumps

[earnest condor]

Gas is just liquid with infinite headlift.

[subtle flume]

So they only go high pressure to low pressure, nothing else?

[robust wigeon]

Kinda, but it largely ignores gravity too

[earnest condor]

That is the implication of infinite headlift?

[robust wigeon]

They try to be equal pressure everywhere

[subtle flume]

Cool thanks

[robust wigeon]

Well fluids with infinite headlift would still collect at the bottom

[leaden turret]

is not infinite headlift, is just that we can't build where there's no gas that it's less dense than

[earnest condor]

I feel like I am defining "infinite" differently than you are, but since we both understand how they work it is a moo point.

🐄

[leaden turret]

-# if fluids are collecting at the bottom, speak to your proctologist

[robust wigeon]

[leaden turret]

[earnest condor]

🐮

[robust wigeon]

[leaden turret]

🥩

[thick cave]

Man I love killing the local ecosystem for ficsit benefits

[empty torrent]

🥀

[robust wigeon]

[earnest condor]

Lizard Remains item when?

Need my DNA points.

[robust wigeon]

Lizard doggos don’t have dna actually,

[thick cave]

Just load up on cluster nobelsisks and just absolutely destroy anything in my path

[leaden turret]

same time as cheese nobelisks

[earnest condor]

Would not be surpised if they added those for an April Fools' gag.
Which means I would never get them because imagine having holiday events enabled...

[robust wigeon]

I do find pulse nobelisks to be really cool, genuinely just as much power as a hypertube cannon but usable quickly from anywhere

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> how many seasonal events would y'all be adding before you get the option to disable specific events?

[leaden turret]

reminder: cheese nobelisk production requires being able to milk lizard doggos

[robust wigeon]

Don’t give Satisfactory+ devs any ideas

They will industrialize lizard doggo milk production

And it will be used in half the recipes for rubber

[leaden turret]

I filed a feature request on the discord of the people that make the farming mod

[robust wigeon]

😭

“Quickwire: now with extra lizard doggo cheese!”

[leaden turret]

complete with image of what cheese it should look like.

-# there's a cheese called Nøkkelost that looks like it has flecks of black powder in, so cheese nobelisks would be made by combining the highly combustible lizard doggo milk with black powder

[robust wigeon]

lol

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> since lizard doggo milk is highly combustible, how do we safely pasteurise it?

[glass turtle]

Project Assembly:
✅ Complete

[thick cave]

Hello everyone, question, is the alternate recipe for charcoal or coated iron plates better. Alternatively i could reroll

[glass turtle]

You can also let the drive sit, therby blocking two undesired recipes from showing up on other drives.

[thick cave]

true

[glass turtle]

I am using the coated iron plates myself. Charcoal is... Nonsense. Let me turn a finite and non-automatable resource into an infinite resource? Nope

[thick cave]

I could always gamble and rescan it

[glass turtle]

You can

[unkempt blade]

charcoal is a top 5 recipe imo

[glass turtle]

Ultimately it depends on you and your factory. Well, with the exception of charcoal, i cant see that ever beeing useful

[unkempt blade]

It doubles the energy you'd get from biomass. There aren't many alts that give you that kind of boost

[leaden turret]

sometimes you just wanna watch the world forest burn

[glass turtle]

Diluted fuel

But the important thing is, you cant automate harvesting biomass and even if you could its still finite

[unkempt blade]

you' comparing it against another top-5 recipe proving my point

[glass turtle]

Whats the actual use case?

[unkempt blade]

making coal

[glass turtle]

When you maxed out all coal nodes and still need more power?

[unkempt blade]

I use mine to charge my backup power storage

[reef basin]

even charcoal is useful

e.g. ammo factory

you bring biomass stuff and take ammo

[reef basin]

all of the recipes are useful in one way or another

my recommendation is to just pick one of them (flip a coin if undecided)

you can get all recipes anyway, so you cannot "pick badly"

[unkempt blade]

The best recipes in the game:

1. cast screws
2. diluted fuel
3. steel screws
4. aluminum beams
5. charcoal

yeah, especially paired with aluminum beams

it's about as satisfactory as it gets

[obsidian zodiac]

no marv

sometimes i think i need a spray bottle

[leaden turret]

how does spray bottle safely pasteurise lizard doggo milk?

[unkempt blade]

oh wait I have a 5b for my list, biocoal is tied with charcoal for bestness

[glass turtle]

Why cast screws when you can just take alts such that you dont need screws nor wire anymore?

[dense violet]

why no screw recipes when you can Steel screw your way through them

[median drift]

Tier 1 (boombox song) is honest to god the most kick-ass song I've ever heard.

[reef basin]

why get rid of screws?

stop with this U2 propaganda 😛

[final talon]

so uh my truck drove off cliff.....now i have floating trascks help

[dense violet]

auto save to the rescue

[final talon]

my autosave is hours ago

any other fix

[dense violet]

save editor? or just let your truck be and make a new one

[dense violet]

also jfc, have your autosaves be like every 5-10 min

[final talon]

yes but it happened yesterday and i go to work

[dense violet]

riiiight well generally don't leave things running for hours after terrible things happen. Fix them straight off and/or don't save after weird things

[final talon]

sadge

[native tapir]

I'm pretty sure I can help you at this but can you explain the problem a little better? And explain what limitation you are hitting exactly but is preventing you from doing what you want to do

[final talon]

its finr i found a nice little save file

[final talon]

when i was tryna transport using trucks since am new the path idk got bugged and the truck fell out of the void

[native tapir]

1.1 or 1.2?

[final talon]

umm wait

1.1

[native tapir]

I'm assuming PC

@final talon

[final talon]

ah

[native tapir]

?

[final talon]

nah it's all good now

[native tapir]

Well if you are on PC and that happens then always just use the save editor

But if it happens on console or experimental you could get into some jankier workarounds to fix it. Not my first or second choice but it can be done

[final talon]

ahhhhh

[normal trench]

Hi!

[abstract heron]

Will there be a console area for EXP once it comes <@&370483737957236737>

According to the video they want to do it

whelp 19,500 hrs on record 500hrs more to go

about 33 more days until i reach 20khrs

OR unless IRL heat comes before that

idk maxeek

nah

[abstract heron]

stream is for me today maxeek 10:15am to 10:45am starting time

no they 6hrs ahead of me

yes its am and pm i use

atm its 8:39AM

maybe

7:15am for them on the west coast

i am just happy its not winter and its cold cold

[dense violet]

wdym? it is winter

[abstract heron]

atm its late spring and early summer when its still cool ish

its not to warm or to cold just right 🙂

[dense violet]

what do you need me for? 😛

[unkempt blade]

just watch out for bears

[abstract heron]

nah

[dense violet]

the only 1.0 save I have right now is a starter base w/o phase 5 finished 😛

if I eventually finish my curvy nuclear rod system? I can share that.

might be ages though

nah, jumped in at u3

iirc u4 hit not tooooo long after I bought the game

[leaden turret]

@void gorge you forgot to use the discord timestamps again

[dense violet]

Well I imagine not everyone had access to u2?

[abstract heron]

16:15 to 16:45 are for me 10:15am or 10:45am for starting for me

[dense violet]

didn't EA steam start with U3?

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> maybe jason can YELL AT MIKAEL

[leaden turret]

U3 was released on 11th March 2020
first dev stream I have archived is 22nd january 2020.

[abstract heron]

marv has everything

i meant marv has everything achieved

[leaden turret]

there's stuff I don't have archived because it expired before I started archiving

[frozen ingot]

archive?

never even heard of it

oh, the youtube channel?

[abstract heron]

@leaden turret makes a video on each item

[frozen ingot]

thought you meant a website 😄

[abstract heron]

and then lists it

[leaden turret]

[both is good]

• https://archive.satisfactory.video/
• https://www.youtube.com/c/SatisfactoryClipsArchive

[frozen ingot]

oooh, neat

now i know 😄

always love the clipped dev stream videos, perfetto

for sure, SF has a great community

i should try a new game where i /don't/ use greeny's tool 🤣

i'd prob end up overproducing everything

and certainly abandon hope of perfect efficiency

someone ported it

icr the address though, but it posted it somewhere in greeny's discord

[reef basin]

no

[frozen ingot]

it's open source lol

[reef basin]

how can you steal opensource

[zenith pecan]

Hes the only one on all of discord I have perma-blocked.

[reef basin]

and you're definitely not the only one

[white dawn]

<um_actually> Well technically you can "steal" opensource by using it in ways which violate the specifics of the license. :D </um_actually>

[reef basin]

given that the license is practically "do what you want"

[frozen ingot]

i think you mean ACKchually 😄

[leaden turret]

-# only if you're making corrections on discussions about TCP 🥁

[reef basin]

basically all they need is to... not delete the LICENSE.md file

(and not sue me)

[frozen ingot]

sure is 😄

[white dawn]

Yeah, I was just being pedantic in that "open source" is a pretty vague term, and what actually matters is the specifics of the license in question. :P I'll shut up though, was only meant as an aside. :P

[reef basin]

I intentionally picked the most "do whatever you want" license out there (apart from the actual "do whatever you want" one 😄 )

[ivory condor]

I get randomly blocked by enough people on discord its just another normal day for me

Even i dont know how many people have blocked me and probably never will

[reef basin]

well we were talking about the inverse - blocking someone 🙂

[ivory condor]

Can anyone hear me or has everyone on here blocked me already, hello!

Soon

Dont you know its not good over the pond here

Well just ignore the us looking like its burning

Well [redacted] did happen, now its all [redacted]

Its all [redacted] regardless

[abstract heron]

i wanna see the office tour from the devs the newer one

i remember jace did one way back when

nah don't ping mikael or jason at them i did and they yelled at me

[night umbra]

sup guys how we doing

what the hell is that bruh

[fluid sapphire]

looks like its a "Studio Tour of Coffee Stain Studios"

it says so right in the title

[night umbra]

it is but i didnt know it looks like that lol kinda funny

[fluid sapphire]

@sudden tide gotta draw the line somewhere, simply having a void surrounding the map looks weirder

[sudden tide]

having a land u cant visit also looks just as weird

[fluid sapphire]

did you run out of space or something

it "looks" fine

[sudden tide]

and its pretty common in games for map to be surrounded by something uniformly, usually water

in this case a void

[fluid sapphire]

have you ever played another video game? unreachable background props are not a concept unique to satisfactory

stylistic choice, sure

clearly they didnt want the landmass to look like its surrounded by an ocean of water on all sides

[sudden tide]

thats crystal clear, tho surrounded by water would give island style vibe, what kind of vibe is it to be surrounded by a finite lethal void on a game that says u just landed on a planet

unless that planet is flat 😢

[fluid sapphire]

even if it was surrounded by water you would still need to draw borders somewhere

[sudden tide]

gta doesnt do it

[fluid sapphire]

so what does gta have? an empty void that doesnt kill you? maps have to end somewhere, aside from encouraging the player and nudging them to play on the actually intended playable area there really isnt a non-awkward way to define borders

[sudden tide]

its infinite sea

[fluid sapphire]

if its uniform emptiness then how is that better than a death zone?

[sudden tide]

theoretically infinite building area

[fluid sapphire]

the map could never be big enough for you huh

[clear aspen]

RIP my satisfactory phase it has been overtooken by KSP

[fluid sapphire]

you already have so much building area your game would explode before you could use it all

[minor rock]

Technically you can get out of the killbox, but nothing much has collision anyway

And for how ridiculously large the planet is, those props in the distance are tiny 😅

A true spherical world wouldve been cool

[sudden tide]

i mean yeah that spot could barely hold a little oil refinery lol

[fluid sapphire]

you\re welcome to try to program one with the features and scale of satisfactory

[minor rock]

Id prob make it voxel then

[sudden tide]

it would be impossible to procedurally generate a round map with surface area like x20 bigger than current one?

[fluid sapphire]

i think you may be underestimating how much the curvature would affect every aspect of the game

[sudden tide]

enlighten me

[fluid sapphire]

i am no pro-programmer, the amount of math involved for everything is probably already nuts as it is without making all surfaces curved

[glass turtle]

142 fuel generators built for this oil drill, 426 to go

Thats one pure oil node to rocket fuel

[fluid sapphire]

people love to repeat that and ignore the nitrogen and sulfur xd

[glass turtle]

Yeah thats also needed.

Gotta calculate that part through, too

If i expand this one

[winged root]

It does, after a while vics exploded and you also just die

[sudden tide]

in san andreas u can fly indefinitely

[reef basin]

We already have that

[fluid sapphire]

an infinite void that you can traverse is a map border all the same

[glass turtle]

But i might also just go into nuclear instead. Now that i have those 142 extra fuel generators i have some breathing room

[sudden tide]

except in ocean u can swim instead of falling to death

[fluid sapphire]

sure, but those games dont let you actually do anything out there

[sudden tide]

having shitload of plutonium waste is my fav thing, but working rn on ficsonium

[winged root]

He likes his space

[minor rock]

What would you even do if theres no killbox ?

[winged root]

Infini conveyor of nuclear waste

[sudden tide]

probably build some weird shit for few days and then quit

[minor rock]

Yea thats what its like

I tried building a palace on the side of a mountain

The scale is really whack , takes ages

[glass turtle]

Yeah i am done with project assembly, now i can build my actual factory

[fair viper]

when will the game be on sale?

[dense violet]

probably next major sale.
what sort of company would advertise sales in advance?

[normal trench]

I mean, like all it does is lower profits, cause people wait to buy the game for the sale of they were willing to buy the game at full price

Sales exist to get ppl who wouldn’t buy the game at full price to buy the game at reduced price

[oblique cape]

Huh, I found one of my missing explorers. From the looks of it, it didn't disappear into the void, but instead got bounced out of the cave vertically. And its sitting in a gas field.

Scratch that, both of my missing explorers are in what was a gas field

[normal trench]

Hah, is it bad Ive never used one of those?

[normal trench]

I just kind of bunny hop

[fluid sapphire]

explorer? completely non-essential

[normal trench]

Btw, priority mergers are like kinda useless right?

I’ve never needed one

[fluid sapphire]

99% of the time yeah

[normal trench]

What use case does it have

[fluid sapphire]

#satisfactory message

[normal trench]

Your belts should always be optimized to be able to hold everything

[fluid sapphire]

sushi belt with a feedback loop

[normal trench]

Is this like something that you should make, like this level of complexity?

[fluid sapphire]

you dont have to, i did it for fun, and to see if i could do it

[normal trench]

Huh, ok

[abstract heron]

i am watching STREAM YAY

[fluid sapphire]

thought it ended up looking kinda cool, ignore the mess, its an old video before cleaning it up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6b72xF8pc

[normal trench]

I don’t think I could ever make that

[whole robin]

Is there a setting in the elevator to make it play through all the songs in its list?

[fluid sapphire]

sure you could

[normal trench]

How do you handle all of those belts without brain just not functioning

[oblique cape]

well to have them on my map was annoying

[normal trench]

Park it

Or delete it

[oblique cape]

I had to find them first

[normal trench]

Don’t leave them randomly, tisk tisk

[oblique cape]

I didnt, i was in the cave in the rocky desert basin and they both just vanished

[normal trench]

Huh

Anyways, I just don’t understand how factories get set up so quickly, It took me like three hours to set up a basic iron factory

[fluid sapphire]

it looks more complicated than it is

#screenshots message

its basically the scheme that i linked with the arrows and coloring, but scaled up to 8 blocks of 4 machines each. the way it looks is just the layout, of 8 functionally identical sets of belts

three hours is not so bad honestly

[normal trench]

It was super basic

[fluid sapphire]

it takes me days or weeks to make some

[normal trench]

Two floors of smelters, two floors of constructors producing iron rods, one floor producing iron plates, all of those leading into a basic storage unit with a mercer and a small container, with a smart splitter making the line continue on when it overflows

[normal trench]

Yeah but like, it’s a iron factory with two Mk 2 miners fueling it, it’s not that complicated

[fluid sapphire]

thats ok, you get better and quicker at building as you go

[normal trench]

Ok, im gonna make some new blueprints that will make logistics faster

[fluid sapphire]

i have a few myself that are machines, with belts and power pre-hooked

so i could plop down like 40 constructors in 30 seconds, all connected and ready to go

[ornate saffron]

Wish I could I ld do that. Mentally I can't.

[normal trench]

Basically I make a short tower where you just plug in the inputs and it will send it up, it just helps organize it in my head

[normal trench]

Oh yeah I have those

Mk 1 blue print maker but still

[fluid sapphire]

ya gotta get that mk2, the extra space helps a lot

[fluid sapphire]

why not

[normal trench]

It’s super simple, you just make a basic manifold in the blueprint maker

[normal trench]

lol I was six when you made your account

[ornate saffron]

I move machines around two or three times before I make the permanent. This doesnt play well with bps. So I just use the blueprinter for architecture

[normal trench]

What do you mean you move them around?

[earnest condor]

Delete and rebuild.

[normal trench]

I mean, there is a blueprint disassemble mode

[earnest condor]

Factory Planning 101:

• Build
• If not happy, delete and rebuild
• Repeat until happy

[ornate saffron]

Deleting and rebuilding to make sure spacing and viewing is the way I want

[normal trench]

I mean, that might be easier with blueprints

Cause they get destroyed faster

Does anyone have any tips on how to handle cross factory logistics? My brain cant handle it

[earnest condor]

Requires one to use BPs in the first place 🙂

[ornate saffron]

Naw, every factory is unique. Sometimes I make large manifolds sometimes I direct feed. Its just not my jam

[normal trench]

Huh, i havent actually ever used a balancer post early game

But I struggle with getting stuff from point a to point b

[fluid sapphire]

i do too, i sometimes plop down a few dozen machines, discover that i dont like the placement, remove it all, and place again

blueprints just make that quicker for me

[normal trench]

I dislike balancers

They take up to much space

[ornate saffron]

I find machine clocking and direct feeding is easier then balancing.

[normal trench]

Direct feeding? You mean like no splitters?

[earnest condor]

Trucks say hello.

[ornate saffron]

Ya, lets say I have 6 machines needing 240 screws each. I could put it on a mark 6 belt and manifold it. Instead I group up constructors to make 240 screws merge them and directly feed the machine that needs them

[glass turtle]

Depends on distance and throughput

[violet notch]

Can I send images here

[dense violet]

basically the only channel you cant

[violet notch]

Is it a glitch with the red things in the sky?

[next ivy]

its your elevator

[violet notch]

I haven’t made one

I have a picture of it

It’s like blinking red bubbles

[next ivy]

theres a space station that connects to the elevator, even when you havent placed the elevator, probably

[violet notch]

Where can I send a picture

[next ivy]

already stated, pretty much anywhere else
but there is specifically #screenshots

[dense violet]

any other channel, as mentioned previously

[next ivy]

that does look buggy

[violet notch]

I sent it

[analog nexus]

Haaai

[dense violet]

save and reload, see if it changes

[violet notch]

I mean now it disappeared

I’ll do that if it comes back, but are there alot of bugs and glitches in this game?

[dense violet]

nope. You might not have a properly updated gpu

[glass turtle]

Why do i have an objective of 50 smart plates?

[dense violet]

I've never gotten that in the 6 years or so I've had the game

[dense violet]

you need them to complete phase 1

[glass turtle]

Am i redoing project assembly now?

[crude canyon]

you only did phase 1

[dense violet]

if you've already done it I've heard of a couple people seeing a hitch where it pops up again. But it's pretty rare. Never seen it myself

[crude canyon]

what about 2 through 10

[glass turtle]

Ive done it to the point|| that the ship was built and left with ADA ||

[crude canyon]

ok then you did beat the game, nice

[trim perch]

I get this glitch sometimes, too.

[glass turtle]

Could be a fun expansion actually to automate project assembly and measure how many projects you can assemble per minute... Or how many hours per assembly, depending.

With just one space elevator could be a challenge to ensure only what is needed goes into it when its needed.

[hexed token]

I've had similar graphics issues in the past. GPU driver wipe and re-verify game installation integrity fixed for me. On the current Stable branch I have not experienced many explicit bugs at all, none that I can explicitly recall.

[normal trench]

Huh, interesting

[woeful drum]

guys where are my drop pods that apparently have already dropped?

[green fiber]

what drop pods

[woeful drum]

i did one of the hub tier 1 upgrades

and it said in the corner somthing about a pod/drop pod

[green fiber]

that thing appears on the HUB, its integrated

you do milestones and thats it

it only serves as a timer between milestone unlocks

[woeful drum]

ohh sorry

[ornate saffron]

Thats the screw lesson most people fail to learn. This leads to screw hate.

[normal trench]

I don’t use screws

[ornate saffron]

My point exactly

[hexed token]

I always just manifold everything out of habit tbh but ima try doing that with screws next time I need them.

[ornate saffron]

Works well with any high throughput part like screws and wire

[ornate saffron]

Ill link a example when I get home.

[hexed token]

That would be cool, thanks 😄

[thick cave]

I love capitalism

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[glass turtle]

Huh

Yeah that uranium node will produce only 75Gigawatts

[ornate saffron]

you can get 90GW from a impoure node

[glass turtle]

Oh yeah 90

Will have one facility in the way thats not fully utilised but yeah thats fine i suppose

[ornate saffron]

more with sloops and further processing. I get the 90gw from just uranium rods

[thick cave]

“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[unkempt blade]

that's just ADA watching over you

[glass turtle]

Will have to think about the best way to process the waste also

[unkempt blade]

stick it in trucks and drive them into the hole in the middle of the map

[glass turtle]

No, i mean do i use more uranium or more waste to make the non-fissile

[unkempt blade]

same answer

[ornate saffron]

Currently im just sinking the plutonium rods

[ornate saffron]

seems like the base recipes are the best way to use the most amount of uranium waste with the least amount of infrastructure

[unkempt blade]

next save I do I'm thinking about using them for drone fuel since I've never done that way

[ornate saffron]

perfectly valid. This was my original plan but i had left over Heavy oil residue so i made rocket fuel in the same area for drones

[glass turtle]

Either also puts out water as a byproduct which ill also have to calculate with, actually. With Aluminium its easy - just feed the output water back into the input and underclock the water extractor to 80/m

[ornate saffron]

I fed the water from one section into the other

[glass turtle]

Yup, that works. Just gotta ensure its even

But thats an implementation question more than anything

[unkempt blade]

I saw a documentary about doing that with people and it didn't turn out well for them 🙁

[glass turtle]

?

[pliant prawn]

theres a resource node in the way of my highway. Ill need to go around it. Who wouldve thought the bottleneck on a highway would be literal freaking limestone.

[glass turtle]

But it might not be the best for getting the most fuel (plutonium included) out of the least uranium.

[hollow kernel]

nah

go over it trust

[ornate saffron]

for sure. My goal was most amount of power for the least amount of power draw. I decided from the get go to sink the plutonium rods or use them for vehicles.

[unkempt blade]

time for an overpass!

[pliant prawn]

Id have to divert the whole thing up 4M for like a span of ten. It would look like a speedbump haha

[lusty turret]

So I can use dimensional depots to feed my jetpack with packages fuel right? Want to confirm before I spend time setting it up

[unkempt blade]

how about just building it close to the node then putting some jumppads the vehicles drive over on each side?

[hollow kernel]

devs pls add doretta from drg so i can dig tunnels everywhere

[ornate saffron]

you have to drag it from the Cloud into inventory. but yes

[lusty turret]

Okay ty

[earnest condor]

You can use Depots to have wifi storage of fuel that you can replenish your inventory with whenever you get low.
Jetpack will not draw directly from Depot though.

[lusty turret]

Kinda sucks it doesn't auto feed but that's okay I guess

[earnest condor]

😬

[pliant prawn]

that would be the LGIO maneuver lol

[glass turtle]

I should also automate the production of filters for my hazmat and gasmask respectively

[coral gale]

Can i post scree shot here gane related?

[unkempt blade]

I've done that with factory carts a good bit. I'm just not sure if it's 1.2-compliant if you're planning on keeping the save for a while

[pliant prawn]

in #screenshots yes

[earnest condor]

#screenshots

[coral gale]

thx

[glass turtle]

(which IRL, hazmat is kinda useless for radiation anyways, just throw more people at the problem)

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots for showing orff
#design-and-architecture for that topic"
#math-and-meta for that topic

#1038092680493801533 for that topic

[earnest condor]

Ok but what about Hot Topic?

[ornate saffron]

thats a store in malls

[earnest condor]

#store-malls?

[pliant prawn]

it is just a norm limestone, I could just say screw it buuut. This is kinda my forever save started at 1.0

[zenith badge]

Question..... how do I change my foundation back to the original color when I set it down?? Its orange now...

[pliant prawn]

X key opens color pallete. I'm assuming you used copy to click it when you placed it with CMB?

[zenith badge]

Im on xbox

[pliant prawn]

ohhh gotcha okay. does bottom right of the screen show icons with buttons assigned? is there a paintbrush there?

I don't know so just guessing here

[zenith badge]

When I go to place it down no

[pliant prawn]

you can also access colors painter from the build menu. should be a tab at the top maybe?

customizer?

[zenith badge]

There is the customizer option when I go to build other stuff

[pliant prawn]

so either select the default color there and repaint it. or if you just delete it and build a fresh one straight from the menu it should be fine.

[normal trench]

Hey, what are color cartridges btw

[pliant prawn]

no longer a thing. they got removed. You just get free paint now

[zenith badge]

If I build one from the menu I think s still orange

[normal trench]

Love ur name and profile picture btw

[hearty flame]

agreed lol

[normal trench]

It’s awesome

Mine is just a portal reference

[pliant prawn]

hmmm. weird. have you selected a swatch from the customizer? those apply to all buildables. Might have to turn it off if you did. Or do the usual save and reload, maybe it just bugged out

[normal trench]

Yoo, that animation on ur pf is so cool

Have you seen the maul season finale?

[zenith badge]

I've been selecting it, but if I save and reload it doesn't fix it, it stays orange

[unkempt blade]

sorry I only know the one about cake 🙁

[normal trench]

lol, it’s a character in the game

The second one

Which is the objectively better one

[pliant prawn]

hmmm. I really don't know then. Try #1038092680493801533 Best I can guess is that you accidentally copied a color to the pallete. I just dont know enough abot the Xbox controls to help

[zenith badge]

I figured it out!!! Woooo my floors won't be orange now.... now to change the the other stuff now....

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys. And ladies. It is time.

I have Homming Rifle, Cluster Boi, Gas Filter, Explosive Rebar all automated.
I got plenty of inhalers.

But do you know what I lack? Spheres. Sloops. Power Shards.

You all know what this means. It is time for THE HUNT.

[gleaming wasp]

how do you delete blueprints

[analog robin]

by changing your dismantle mode

or you mean delete them in the blueprint menu?

if in the menu.. its Edit, then the cogwheel on said blueprint and Remove blueprint

[thick cave]

kill anythign that moves

[thick cave]

changing the dismantle mode to blueprint

[mortal ginkgo]

I need Liquid Biofuel too.. so.. Today, there will be a lot of stingers get removed, hugs get bonked back, spitters get fired upon, silly tick beans being shoverd around and doggos be headpatted.

yeah, I cant automate the turbo one, I am at phase 3

[thick cave]

Idea, why not just use fuel for the jetpack

[mortal ginkgo]

Liquid Biofuel got immense power storage compared to Fuel, so it lasts WAY longer than that.

[thick cave]

well ik that, its just annoying to do

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes Maxeeks. I shall: #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

the burn time for regular fuel is absolutely abysmal

[zenith badge]

Is there an easier way to rotate stuff that's already put down?? Or do I HAVE to dismantle then put it back down?

[mortal ginkgo]

an entirely slooped process of one Animal Remains give around 533 liquid biofuel.

Just one.

[fluid sapphire]

no editing of stuff in-place, gotta delete and build again

[mortal ginkgo]

O N E

[thick cave]

gotta dismantle

[thick cave]

fair enough then

[zenith badge]

Would be nice to make it so we can rotate

[thick cave]

i have an idea
techincally, theres no limit for the ammount of explosives you can place, so, any animal you come across that can hurt you, attach a cluster bomb adn walk away, do this until you makea full loop around and then blow it up

[mortal ginkgo]

Animals eventually despawn etc.

[thick cave]

ah right

i forgot

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you also need to grab the remains too.

You forgor, my brotherman. 💀

[thick cave]

the dogs coukd pick em up

[mortal ginkgo]

WHERE

Thanks! Its a labor of love 😄

[glass turtle]

Please consult if symptoms last beyond the halflife of U238. good one

And with that, all MAM research is done

[abstract heron]

U bot Batman

[restive umbra]

Hey guys should I build a big factory or a small factory

[abstract heron]

I am in #satisfactory-experimental

I am in the Chanel

[unkempt blade]

more cat pics!

[slate torrent]

where to post satisfactory related issues

[shy temple]

The cats come out of the caves and chase me.... They stare, expressionless.

[slate torrent]

?

[lean forge]

Does mods work on 1.2?

[reef basin]

that's better asked in modding discord

[robust wigeon]

Yes

[earnest condor]

Lol, no.
Because any that work now are going to bork immediately when the next patch drops for it.

[gleaming wasp]

no i mean i have some blueprint designs that are completely redundant to me and i want to wipe them off my save

[robust wigeon]

I’ve used a couple just fine

Don’t install every patch if you’re worried about it

[lean forge]

with smm?

[crude canyon]

not in 1.2