satisfactory

[normal orbit]

you can click on the marker and select "stop highlighting marker" if you wanna remove the green pillar

[glass grove]

And if there is no Marker you need to highlight a different marker and then stop highlighting it

[cunning sinew]

how do i befriend a lizard doggo he keeps running away 🙁 also ty

[normal orbit]

find a berry and offer it to them :)

[cunning sinew]

i tried he doesnt want it i can only pet sadly

probably the wrong berry

[normal orbit]

place it on the ground

[cunning sinew]

oooh thats smart thanks

[dapper cave]

Dunno if its something to do with the way the game is programmed or what but the borderless windowed mode on this game paired with controller is fantastic. I can actually move my character and press stuff as if I was just playing the game normally even tho im on another window. I cant recall any other game where I can do this. Its a niche thing but its helpful if I gotta walk in a long straight line and I can just tab into discord while holding forward on my controller 🤣

Again its niche af but its nice 🤣

[bleak mica]

I completed Phase 4 but I didn't bother fully automating it

I just slooped every final manufacturer/assembler and manually fed the components

and now I'm properly cooked for the latest milestones as there is no turbo motor/cooling system production

T_T

[rich parrot]

If you automate cooling systems, you can just fake it 'til you make it. You only need a small handful of turbo motors to complete the final phase.

Those can be hand-crafted while you cook dinner, or done with a slooped manufacturer.

[rigid wedge]

Any1 got some funny way to build their refineries they wanna share?

[bleak mica]

good to know

[rich parrot]

You could do them in curved manifolds with some decorative towers. Something sophisticated, like (.)(.)

[rigid wedge]

Good idea

I think I also saw someone do a tower with triangle refineries

I need a cool way to build them because I’ll have to build so many of them going forward

[dapper cave]

-Go to make something
-Ah I need more of x"
-"Make x and get ready to make the thing"
-Realize you exhausted your other resources making x, so you still cant make the thing"
REPEAT 30 times

I suck at planning lol

[rigid wedge]

Me too

Coming from gregtech the difference in logistics makes me always end up with spaghetti

[rough shore]

guys i fell and hurt my wrist

twice

[fiery root]

Don't fall
Falling isnt ficsit approved

[dapper cave]

If these tall-legged, potato mfers dont get off my Climate-Ruining project...

[reef basin]

that's why you don't hook existing factories to new factories

instead make every new factory make things from raw resources

[fiery root]

Hate them climate activists

[dapper cave]

Workin on it

[dapper cave]

Instead of blocking roads we're blocking conveyor belts

[rough shore]

electrocute to death

[fiery root]

Sounds smart
Will do that from now on

[rough shore]

to make z
u have to make abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy frfr

[fiery root]

Since i have build a wall i am keeping them out for a good amount

[reef basin]

see also https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency
(also @dapper cave )

[dapper cave]

im figuring all this out on my own

Any mistakes, experimentation etc is all me 🤣 i dont want guides

Ive asked for a bit of help at the start but you get the idea

[rough shore]

the right way to play the game right there ^^^

[reef basin]

that's fair. Though the guide is pretty abstract and basically just describes in more words what I recommended - making things from raw ores instead of relying on existing factories

(and yeah, it's also just a recommendation and you can play in any way you want. I just like that approach as it naturally evades many pitfalls you may end up in, including the one you mentioned about having to upgrade the entire chain)

[dapper cave]

Well it also doesnt help that im a symmetry and organization person here

I will HAPPILY spend 30 more minutes, more, to make sure everything looks nice. Gotta build triple the platforms? Gotta build like twice the conveyor length? Yep on it

[reef basin]

yeah, but the independency approach can work together with symmetry (you also don't have to modify existing factories that way, so you can design for final look without worrying about expansion)

[hard wolf]

I've unlocked all of the tiers :3

[dapper cave]

ive now got 6 total coal gens

bruh im locked in on this tonight. Had to put on some of that upbeat 80s rock to build this mess to

[jaunty mist]

hey guys, does anyone know why the random resource boulders around the world change? I have an on going save I have been playing for some time, I catalog my saves as I advance in tech level, Tier level and when I build a new factory. I was just exploring some older saves and I have noticed the random resource boulders around the world change to different types of resources? but it the same game. Does anyone know why that would be?

[reef basin]

you mean deposits?

[jaunty mist]

yes, I wasnt sure what they are called

[reef basin]

they are random for each save (some of them)

[jaunty mist]

how is that? its the same game...? its not a new game and save file, all my saves are the same game file

[reef basin]

I said it's random for each save, if it changes across single save, then not sure what's happening

[dense violet]

By save he means world you generate. It doesn't change when you save the game

[supple canopy]

how old is this save? and are you on 1.2 currently?

[jaunty mist]

No, I am on 1.1, the normal game not experimental. well that cant be true, unless they can change with each game update, because since Nov 2024 (My earliest save file) and now, the resource deposits in my game have changed. the 'Save" (Game File) I am using is a couple of years old, and as i said i am exploring earlier saves experimenting with different factory builds in locations I always build them, and I have noticed the random resource deposits have changed.

[supple canopy]

yes that was my second point, I wouldn't be surprised if the ressource deposits were reshuffled with some updates

[spice patio]

Any update that respawns stuff will also usually redo the deposit randomization.

[jaunty mist]

it must be, no other explanation

[spice patio]

Also, those deposits only get randomized at the time you first enter a cell IIRC.

So if you take a save, move to other side of the map for first time, check things.
Then load same save, do the exact same thing, the deposits will be different.

[jaunty mist]

interesting, i didnt know that

[supple canopy]

schrödinger's deposit typa shit

[spice patio]

And there was/is a bug where first time you go to cell, anything you do doesn't get saved.
Until you save and reload.
Allowing collecting slugs etc. twice.

[jaunty mist]

I have experienced that with a power slug before

[spice patio]

Was still in with 1.0.
Don't know about 1.1 or 1.2.

[supple canopy]

was that the bug with that patch that notoriously "respawned" mercers and somers without their decorative anchors?

back in 1.0

[spice patio]

Separate thing, going into that general "update respawns collected things" bug category where the IDs change, so the save "collected already" marks don't match to the map.

As the game saves what is removed.
Not what is still there.

With 1.0, that isn't supposed to happen anymore, but has happened and then fixed.
So anyone who got hit gets it twice, and anyone who didn't play the bugged version doesn't get hit at all.

[sly palm]

Where’s the best place to start? I wanna make a new solo save to relax and focus on design and architecture

[rigid wedge]

One thing I noticed is today is there was a bauxite stone that respawned after I removed it earlier and put a foundation there

[spice patio]

But for long time, there at least was a bug, where the game didn't actually save that "collected already/interacted already" data into save properly after first entering a cell.
Only after next save & reload.

[rigid wedge]

Depends on your preferences

[reef basin]

All places are fine, you're gonna expand across the map anyway

[sly palm]

Aight

[rigid wedge]

I liked the northern forest the most so far

Pure nodes in my area

[normal orbit]

rocky desert is my personal fave, has most things

[spice patio]

So that "cell edits not saved properly right after entering" bug is still there.
Removed deposits are part of that.
Same for enemies, flora, collectibles, blowable rocks etc.

So you go to cell, mine a deposit, save and reload, and it is back comes from that bug.

[reef basin]

You really only need iron, copper and limestone in your starting area

[spice patio]

And that deposit can be different mineral after that reload.,

[leaden turret]

depends on if you want extensive space or nature to integrate with:

• https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=architecture AND NOT (nature OR interior)
• https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=architecture+AND+nature+AND+NOT+interior

[rigid wedge]

Maybe it’s also because I mod all the trees that I explode when cleaning up gas pillas etc back

[sly palm]

I just want a good early start, once I get Jetpack imma start expanding across map

[leaden turret]

also the swamp tends to attract a specific vibe: https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=architecture+AND+swamp+AND+"night+time"

[reef basin]

yeah basically any place that has iron, copper and limestone

you don't need any other resource for starting, and once you hit coal you're supposed to expand anyway

[sly palm]

True okay ty

[oak hinge]

#screenshots message Lmao

Thats some materials needed

[lavish cave]

coal is the reason my first save had a 1km long belt

[reef basin]

why tho? just build at the coal

[lavish cave]

back when i did that i did not consider such options

• the coal had no water nearby

so id have to run a massive pipeline

[reef basin]

no, you'd move coal to water

[lavish cave]

yeah thats what i did

[reef basin]

or even better - pick coal node that has water nearby

[lavish cave]

i had a coal node 1km from base that was the closest

and a lake nearby

so i built a long belt to transport coal to the area near the lake

and setup power there

[normal orbit]

each start have at least one location with coal and water nearby :p

[lean fossil]

polymer resin alt recipe rerun or no

[lavish cave]

honestly as someone whos done far more fentanyl (factorio) than crack cocaine (satisfactory) i dont get why oil seems so hard

i mean yeah back in the 2d plane we have it easier with oil

[dense violet]

pick whatever recipe you're more likely to use in your next factory

[dense violet]

oil is hard?

[lean fossil]

I usually pick one that has the most output but the least bullshitery.

[lavish cave]

but you literally get a free item void with no consequences

[lavish cave]

thats what i hear

with byproducts

[lean fossil]

this shi easy-

[dense violet]

most of the high output recipes have more bullshitery - usually you combo it with other recipoes

[lean fossil]

It literally gives you free items

[earnest condor]

Should stop listening to those people.

[lavish cave]

yeah

[dense violet]

just turn the byproduct into a solid and sink it

[lavish cave]

like literally this yeah

[indigo verge]

my train stations wont recognise each other :I ive connected them together but each end wont show up on the timetable

[earnest condor]

Or turn it into something you can use?

[lean fossil]

FREE plastic
FREE rubber
It's js great
and you can even sink them for COUPONS and buy some good shi

[dense violet]

probably facing the wrong way

[lavish cave]

like being given access to a free item sink somewhat early on is incredible

[lean fossil]

one is probably facing north and the other south

[lavish cave]

oh yeah trains

[dense violet]

the game is designed around continues permanent production line, gotta have a sink to have that

[normal orbit]

if they dont show in timetable, they're not actually connected

[earnest condor]

Oil -> Plastic/Rubber byproduct HOR -> Coke -> Coal Generators.
Simple.

[lavish cave]

yeah that makes sense

[lean fossil]

Having a sink feels so weird but so great.

[indigo verge]

hmm i put 2 railway stations on each end so idk if its that

[lean fossil]

How else would you even wash your hands.

[dense violet]

It's a completely different design system than factorio

[lavish cave]

like back in the 2d plane we prefer to have a backlog of ingredients but here everything has to be moving

[dense violet]

well you can only have 1 station piece on each station

[dense violet]

make a post with overhead images of your station in #1038092680493801533

[lavish cave]

its why most experience between both doesnt translate

[earnest condor]

Not the f-word 😭

[indigo verge]

yes sir

[dense violet]

yeah I'm not a fan of the f word myself

[lavish cave]

eh theres similarities

[dense violet]

automation, but that's about it

[lean fossil]

is 24 cooling systems a minute pretty great or nah?

[earnest condor]

No.

[dense violet]

tthere's single optimal production paths in factorio, not with satisfactory

[dense violet]

for jsut going up the tiers? perfectly fine

[lean fossil]

alright thank god

[lavish cave]

green circuits and screws are basically the equivalents of eachother

• something you get early on
• its cheap to make
• you need it in the thousands/tens of thousands
• you never have enough

[lean fossil]

I'm gonna get more production in after I GET the NEW conveyor

[earnest condor]

Wow.
So people ask questions only wanting positive answers? 🤔

[lavish cave]

like if you really focus your pattern recognition you'll see alot of similarities but also alot of differences

(being able to condense a entire smelting stack into 1 singular furnace is beautiful)

but splitters/mergers still scare me

and the idea of the thing that increases machine output being limited is also a neat concept

really makes you think it through

and i feel like power slugs being used for essentially speed modules is some sort of joke but could be wrong

(because slow creature used to make something that speeds up a machine is just like wack)

[normal orbit]

so slow they dont move at all :p

[earnest condor]

Focusing on the patterns:

One is 3D, one is 2D.

They both have D.
One is Factorio, one is Satisfactory.
They both have fact.
One is randomly generated, the other is handcrafted with love.
They both have ed.
One has base defense, the other is a chill building game.
They both have b.
😏

[lavish cave]

cant argue

[earnest condor]

😁

[normal orbit]

D-Fact-ed-b

[lavish cave]

theres also the middle child whom we dont discuss about unless specifically needed

which is a RTS/TD game disguised as factorybuilding

[next ivy]

DSP is great wdym

[lavish cave]

thatd be the 4th one i guess

[indigo verge]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1496466660603859064

[leaden turret]

one looks nice, the other looks fugly

[lavish cave]

different artstyles and different preferences

[reef basin]

no longer true 😛

[earnest condor]

Iron Pipe always optimal

[reef basin]

optimal in terms of "you want most expensive pipe? go for it"

[south sinew]

I'd describe Iron Pipe as "convenient" rather than "optimal"

[south sinew]

the difference is in factorio blueprints and mass construction don't suck so mass producing greens isn't really that hard, learn to love construction bots and you'll never be short

[lyric zodiac]

@opaque osprey second version of the build looks nice - gg

[opaque osprey]

Thanks

It took me ages trying to make it look somewhat clean and easy to expand

[lyric zodiac]

You combined two of the most complex aspects to get right, no wonder! 😄

[opaque osprey]

Made a factory 5 times before I got to the final design

[opaque osprey]

Thanks alot man

[earnest condor]

You're saying Satis BPs suck?

[lyric zodiac]

I wouldn't say I agree with that, but there's definitely some downsides to using Satis BP's when you compare them to Factorio BP's. But they're wildly different games so I don't see why we're comparing them. (not that anyone asked)

[earnest condor]

I mean, my opinion is that the initial version was perfect and the 1.0 "upgrades" make things worse. 🤷‍♂️

[lyric zodiac]

Interesting, how so?

[earnest condor]

4x4 was incredible.
Puzzle to solve. Made you think.
Gave you opportunities for BPs to be useful without them becoming the entire game.

Now we have 6x6, auto-connect, etc...

[void gorge]

4x4 is still in the game doe :o

[earnest condor]

And because ONE building doesn't fit in 6x6 people still complain.
Because they don't want to believe that some things aren't meant to be printed 🤷‍♂️

[lyric zodiac]

Ah, I see - yeah that's a fair point. Now they're so convenient, the game just becomes a 'making big puzzle pieces and jamming them together' experience? That's your issue?

[ornate saffron]

More that I dont know what you are referring too. But ty

[earnest condor]

More space = less thought going into the puzzle.
I like the puzzle.

[dapper cave]

So, ive got 6 total coal gens and both are a reasonable distance away, When it comes to a power grid and linking them back to home base, whats the best way to manage that

Cause the efficiency on my machines could be a bit better

im on phase 2 of the elevator btw

[tall lantern]

just run power poles

[dapper cave]

Right yeah ive done that

[tall lantern]

(or power towers)

sorted

[ornate saffron]

I doubt you have the lm yet but power towers allow long power lines. Other then that just power poles. Cables dont add resistance so there is no lose over distance

[tall lantern]

one big shared grid is a very common setup

[dapper cave]

So i could theoretically add 700 power poles and there would be no less power than 2

So thats not the problem

[tall lantern]

yeah power's easy

no funky distribution or loss to worry about

[dapper cave]

Every machine is working. They arent crashing or anything. The efficiency is resting around 30-40% on each apart from a few of the ironworks

[tall lantern]

sounds like a math issue on those machines

[south sinew]

compared to the factorio ones absolutely; the max size is tiny, and the biggest issue is that you can't place them to be constructed in the future, so you can only place them at the rate that you can throw the materials into the depot which is limited, so there's a hard limit on how fast you can build new things and it's pretty low

[dapper cave]

elaborate

[tall lantern]

if it was power, the whole grid would just shut down

[scenic mirage]

can i increase drone throughput by using higher tier conveyors? like tier 6 vs tier 5

[dapper cave]

Figured

[earnest condor]

Everything you just described is what makes them better 🤷‍♂️

[tall lantern]

but if your machine needs 5 cheesecakes/min and you're supplying 2, then yes it's not going to be at 100%

[dapper cave]

Okay so thats what refers to. ok I see

[tall lantern]

yeah that %'s the uptime. might not always be fully accurate (but tbh it's pretty good ime)

if something's not full uptime either it's not getting enough input, or isn't able to get rid of its output

[dapper cave]

I figured 30% efficiency meant that it was outputting weaker than it should bc power wasnt sufficiently being applied

[tall lantern]

nah

[dapper cave]

Okay so i can fix this WAY easier than I thought 🤣 good

[earnest condor]

Higher belt increases potential.
Actual throughput still limited by drones and distance.

[south sinew]

if by "better" you mean "completely incapable of solving the problem I want them to solve which is to build a lot of stuff easily"

[earnest condor]

🤦‍♂️

[normal orbit]

They can do that tho. The limit is you not the blueprint designer

[south sinew]

there's a limit to the rate at which the player can click the print, so if the designer can't accomoodate more stuff placed per click, that's a big limit on how fast you can place stuff

and there's a limit to how fast the depots can upload materials which is an even bigger limit

so absolutely the limit is not how fast the player can click

[earnest condor]

Are you a speedrunner?

[normal orbit]

Depots don't really have a limit

[south sinew]

compared to the built in limitations you don't have to be fast to be a speedrunner

[earnest condor]

There's a limit per depot, but you can just build more.

You seem to be obsessed with HOW FAST/SPEEDY SPEED SPEEDNESS in a chill building game...

[south sinew]

it's very easy to click faster than you can upload, a blueprint of power storages is basically the entire DD capacity of copper wire right there even at max size

[supple canopy]

you're not supposed to build a lot of stuff easily anyway
the problem with BP is that a lot of people come from factorio and immediatly build a flat sky platform and basically play factorio 3D, removing all kind of logistics problem
you should not be able to row 167 refineries side by side, you have to circumvent the terrain somehow
and really there are few scenarios where the production of a single item use 100+ machines. Under that number a mk3 is plenty enough

[scenic mirage]

😭 damn im not bringing enough copper in my nuclear pasta factory n i didnt wanna have to place more drone ports

[supple canopy]

how much you trying to bring in and whence?

[earnest condor]

Well said.

[scenic mirage]

???? you allowed to do whatever you want in your own save, its your copy of the game

[south sinew]

Time spent waiting for materials to upload is not fun chill building, it's just sitting on my ass doing nothing

[earnest condor]

Sure.

[scenic mirage]

just 2400 copper ore

[normal orbit]

So upload more?

[reef basin]

Point is about design of a game

[south sinew]

no matter how much you upload, it will never be as good as not having to wait for uploads at all

[swift crescent]

I liked building my sky platform, I'll play the way I want thank you. 🙂
Right now I'm doing a trains/drones only playthrough on the ground and once 1.2 is in we're hitting randomize in Multiplayer. 🙂

[earnest condor]

Another reason I am fully against the larger printers, lol.
They lead to stuff like this.

[south sinew]

I decide what I'm supposed to do; nobody else ;p

[supple canopy]

of course you can, it's just not how developers which I like to call "fun engineers" built the game around

[supple canopy]

^

[scenic mirage]

exactly like its a singleplayer game where you can do what you want, if youre playing co-op with someone then you can choose whatever rules you want for that co-op playthrough

[earnest condor]

😂

[south sinew]

but also

[swift crescent]

And spending 300 hours building a 3km platform in the sky with 5 layers for trains, conveyors and roads for driving before even being able to produce anything up there I wouldn't call easy. 🙂

[south sinew]

when you look at the design of the game it's just not consistent with the idea that you're not supposoed to scale things, nuclear pasta is a great example

it's not like the devs said "We won't give you the tools to scale things because you don't need them"

[earnest condor]

Imagine automating Project Parts...

[reef basin]

you are not supposed to scale that much

[scenic mirage]

but you can

[south sinew]

"that much" is relative

[reef basin]

you can, sure. But expect issues

[scenic mirage]

if you wanna make 60 nuclear pasta/min, you can

[supple canopy]

I have no idea where the concept of satisfactory was a game about expansion comes from, it's just not true

[scenic mirage]

thats the fun part for some ppl 🤷‍♂️

[swift crescent]

One of these days I'll get there 😄

[south sinew]

The part where many of the endgame items ask for tons of raw resources?

[dense violet]

you can scale easily in this game, I'm beginning to doubt you've ever played

[reef basin]

it's your choice to make 60/min pasta, but also it's your choice to do it while knowing the game isn't designed for that (meaning it'll take longer)

[supple canopy]

where does it tell you you have to use your starting factory for that?

[south sinew]

I don't want to use my starting factory, that's where the blueprints should come in

[earnest condor]

❌

[south sinew]

I want to design and build a new factory that achieves the goal, and I'd like the building part to not take a thousand times longer than the actual fun designing part

[swift crescent]

https://giphy.com/gifs/movie-up-NoHe3HpB1Mg8w

The problem with scaling and grabbing every single resource on the map is more of a me-problem (Not counting the possible performance issues).

Aww, gif embed fail 🙁

[scenic mirage]

i mightve joined the convo late but i feel like we're just agreeing but saying it differently atp. how did this all start like was someone complaining ab smth not working right?

[reef basin]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280/1496475378443882547

[supple canopy]

what are you trying to build exactly? using blueprints to process half of the world's uranium into fuel rod took me 2 hours and a single blueprint repeated 8 times. It's the logistics of bringing all the ressources that take me dozens of hours

[earnest condor]

Puppy thinks the Satis BPs suck and my only takeaway is because they cannot beat the game in 4 clicks due to inventory limitations. 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

possibly this https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280/1496473833983447171

[void gorge]

Keep it civil

[south sinew]

If I somehow design a blueprint which is just that good, I deserve my fair reward

[earnest condor]

Nope. But I'm done.

[scenic mirage]

i feel its pretty civil 😭

[reef basin]

if you can fit it in 4x4x4, sure

(or 6x6x6)

[void gorge]

Right up until we start bashing people for presumably not being able to complete the game, sure

[scenic mirage]

wait wtf who said that

[swift crescent]

I use blueprints way too seldom for the things I try to achieve haha.

[scenic mirage]

blueprints are dope, depots are dope

[south sinew]

really the core issue is that only the design puzzle is actually fun, building the design is not fun, and I just want to skip or at least substantially minimize the not-fun part

[scenic mirage]

depots were added (i assume) so you dont have to keep running back and forth to storage areas to build

[south sinew]

it's like how I don't want to feed biomass for the entire game

that's why I feel like Factorio's blueprints meet my needs a lot better

[scenic mirage]

you could also play with no build requirements, but ofc itd disable achievements

[reef basin]

well, they were added because people complained they have to do that

but they don't have to do that, but didn't want to spend time on creative and interesting solutions to that problem 🙃

[scenic mirage]

or perhaps theres a mod where you could "plan" construction of blueprints 🤷‍♂️

[earnest condor]

There's a mod for everything 😉

[scenic mirage]

also isnt there a site where you can request things to be added

[supple canopy]

the other reason BPs are limited apart from trying to retain the logistics puzzles, is performance issues, and that's a hardwall

[earnest condor]

"Blueprint entire game" type posts have been on there since before BPs were even added tbf.

[supple canopy]

same reason why zoop is limited to 10

[scenic mirage]

i want to abuse my computer 😠

[earnest condor]

Limited zoop was such a good call.

[scenic mirage]

i want to push my pc to its absolute limit

i paid like 5k for my pc. i want my moneys worth

[south sinew]

limited zoop can be really annoying but at the same time, the UI for unlimited zoop would be really problematic I feel

[scenic mirage]

i used inf zoop and its nice but i feel like it made it too easy to build stuff too, i also get why some ppl would like it

[ornate saffron]

there is a unlimited zoop mod. the ui is the same but you can zoop in two directions and have more then 10x10

[south sinew]

for factorio I just invested a ton of time, blueprinted the game, and then I just.. added a couple mods that changed it up and kept playing anyway, blueprinting the game does kinda solve it but at the same time, that's not neecessarily actually a problem

[earnest condor]

Infinite zoop and super mega BPs are in the same basket of "why are you speedrunning?" imo.

[south sinew]

I'm speedrunning past the building part because it's repetitive and boring ;p

[scenic mirage]

it also gets kinda weird when you try and do huge zoops at once

[scenic mirage]

bc its their game. who cares what they do? does it affect you in any way?

[ornate saffron]

Well....factorio is a diffrent game. Nodes are unlimited in Satisfactory and you are not ever being assulted by aliens. In fact power machines disable alien spawn point. There is little reason to blueprint/copy and paste a enitre factory. As the planning and placement of a factory is the entire game of Satisfactory

[earnest condor]

What you find not a problem I find to be the core, root problem.
But we're never going to agree on this and my replies began to be misinterpreted. Which is why I am happy to "agree to disagree", but I would rather be done replying to you directly for the time being 💛

[earnest condor]

Yes? When things are added and the game itself is altered to accommodate.. it affects everyone.

[south sinew]

planning, yes, placement, not so much

[scenic mirage]

is anyone forcing you to use it?

[earnest condor]

That's not how people work...

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[abstract heron]

huh what happening

[south sinew]

on this one I agree with Sevrahn; people will optimise the fun out of games, it might be dumb but that's what happens

[scenic mirage]

someones playing the game how they want in their singleplayer factory game and its making someone else upset \

[earnest condor]

If you add a 1 billion damage sword to Dark Souls, people will use it.
So "just ignore it" isn't a valid debate point because that isn't how people work.
If something is in a game, it will be used. Maybe not by everyone, but it will be used.

[scenic mirage]

ok but if you dont like it, then you dont have to use it

[real shale]

Just ignore it

[south sinew]

it's just immersion-breaking to have things in the game but then just randomly not use it

[real shale]

What are we talking about?

[scenic mirage]

but just because you dont like it, doesnt mean other people cant have it

[earnest condor]

I don't like paying taxes.

[scenic mirage]

i love paying taxes, but i also live in one of the greatest countries in the world 😤

[real shale]

America? 🦅 🔥 🇺🇸

[scenic mirage]

lol no

denmark 🇩🇰

[rough shore]

update: i got a wrist supporter or whatever its called and now i look really cool and sick and 😎

[dense violet]

your computer will also catch on fire before you can use all the resources on the map

[real shale]

US beefalo

United States of Beefalo

[ornate saffron]

taxes pay for infrastructure and builds our community. "I'm okay with taxes"

[rough shore]

taxes actually are actually given to the lottery winner

[untold grove]

So I updated to 1.2 exp. without realizing the downsides, then realized only after downgrading that my save file is now unplayable on 1.1. Anything I can do to fix this? 😅

[reef basin]

play on 1.2 or resume your 1.1 save

no other option

[abstract heron]

did u make a backup?

[earnest condor]

Read all the warnings about backing up your save file?

[dense violet]

all the saves are 1.2? even the ones you saved before the latest?

[untold grove]

No, I’m that dumb

[abstract heron]

also why did u say your question in #satisfactory-experimental

[untold grove]

I was standing for 30 mins waiting for my friend and it over wrote my 1.1 auto saves

[dense violet]

you don't have any manual saves from 1.1??

[untold grove]

Double post by accident I’m sorry >_<

[abstract heron]

it okay 🙂

[ornate saffron]

no. in the future read the pins in the related channels before making decisions. it can save you some headaches

[untold grove]

I’ve learnt to use one save file from the old days of gaming, I’m dumb

[rough shore]

u are

[untold grove]

Hey it’s not nice if someone else says it :(

[rough shore]

mb

[earnest condor]

Um... the old days of gaming is specifically why I always have 2 files. 😂

[rough shore]

2 is risky still

[earnest condor]

Because they were prone to brick one at some point.

[rough shore]

gotta keep every autosave in a folder fr

[untold grove]

Okay I dunno what to call it- ocd maybe, I just like using one save file for most stuff to save space

[earnest condor]

You like to live dangerously.

[wise junco]

B r I c k

[mortal ginkgo]

I wonder if it is not a habit to save before closing the game for some folk.

This game doesnt do a quit-save too so..

[untold grove]

I just went onto Steam betas and changed it there, somehow missed any warnings on the way. I’m not proud but tis’ what happened

[earnest condor]

Lana.
Lana.
LANA!

What?!?!
Danger Zone

[untold grove]

I save manually before closing the game :<

[wise junco]

I never save

[ornate saffron]

as a FF player i still manually save everytime even when the game tells me its saving

[wise junco]

One straight playthrough from drop pod.

[mortal ginkgo]

its ok Melina. You know better than anyone else that, sometimes you have to burn it all. Even your old save. 🔥

[earnest condor]

As an EPIC user I can confirm I have never had this issue as I am able to have both versions of the game installed simultaneously.

[rough shore]

epic user 🤣 😂

[untold grove]

Thank you, impure limestone

[untold grove]

Woah that’s hot though

[ornate saffron]

no sleep, on a vacation, with a chamber po\t

[mortal ginkgo]

I remember DSP corrupting the quit save once. I mean I got qol mods so expected but alas. It was a slightly smol oof

[wise junco]

Imagine playing a vacuum orb game

[ornate saffron]

I got my second ever Satisfactory crash last night.

The game just declaired i was offline (i always am) and shut down lol

[untold grove]

I know it sounds obvious in theory to backup your save, but like this is the first time I’ve been in such a situation. Usually, I have an auto save or quick save.

[earnest condor]

Yes. I enjoy the fact that more of my money actually goes to the devs instead of 30% of it being cut out.

[untold grove]

Welp, anyone know when the stable release is? 🥲

[wise junco]

No

[ornate saffron]

no date annouced. my guesss 2-3months

[mortal ginkgo]

I also had an invalid login in satisfactory once.. I was like "big dawg I aint got no freeways in steam to go online ever lols"

[untold grove]

I shall look forward to it!

[wise junco]

We need a Dyno auto react that just does an "x" on every message asking when 1.2 is coming

[untold grove]

Hey I asked in a polite way

[ornate saffron]

the other crash was trying to play multiplayer and the host was on the other side of the world

[rough shore]

billions did

[untold grove]

And it was contextually relevant >;(

Hmph

[mortal ginkgo]

no but I suspect 3 months. what's wrong with 1.2 anyways? it is pretty stable aside from that stacking bug devs are hunting

[rough shore]

no its not 1.2 is relevant in #satisfactory-experimental

[reef basin]

yeah, more money to devs and possible to run both versions at same time 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

stop being an aggressive minecraft block pls

[rough shore]

ok node

[untold grove]

Oh it sucks so hard for some reason. First the game just lagged like crazy, then my friend joined and we both lagged like crazy. Everything was unstable and weird.

[reef basin]

(it's actually 35%, as it includes 5% UE fee, which is not included if the game is sold on Epic)

[untold grove]

But like I won’t hold it against them when it’s an experimental patch

[untold grove]

Sir I said contextually relevant

[mortal ginkgo]

oh multiplayer.. I suggest deleting anything related to satisfactory in appdata to see it fixes the issue. (backup before)

[rough shore]

illegally relevant

[untold grove]

I’ll give that a go, then. Thank you yet again, impure limestone

[ornate saffron]

changing your network option to high or ultra helps. the game assumes you have potato bandwidth

[mortal ginkgo]

go be useful in Minecraft. Melina is a truly overrated and underutilized character in Elden Ring but not need to attack her like that!

[mortal ginkgo]

this might be an option too ya

[rough shore]

im more useful than u will ever be pal

impure limestone node when am i ever gonna need that

[untold grove]

Excuse me! I didn’t pay premium to my ISP for nothing D:<
||trying to be funny||

[mortal ginkgo]

I bring whopping 300min limestone, buddy.

You are just a block. Not even in this game.

[rough shore]

ur just a node that genuienly doesnt need to be used even once in the game

[untold grove]

Oi, I give you a horse and sacrifice my life to open the door to the final boss! I’m very important

[ornate saffron]

I do, I live in Canada where the ISP's are three raccoon's on a trench coat stealing your money

[untold grove]

Hah that’s… tragic.

[mortal ginkgo]

You are a part of the problem. You are like that save of yours. You promise progress but deep inside you do irreversable damage.

I am sorry girl. But you didnt even give an option to choose when you talked to me. It was a mere illusion.

[untold grove]

But

[abstract heron]

what going on now?

[untold grove]

As a finger maiden, it was my destiny!

[rough shore]

elden ring and satisfactory crossover

[mortal ginkgo]

go point your finger to a factory!

[abstract heron]

how about me with my hrs in game

[untold grove]

:(

[abstract heron]

19,308 hrs on record and 5,477hr on my world atm

[untold grove]

That’s more hours than I have IRL! I think

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg is mental, unhinged, out of control

[rough shore]

wow bro thats really sick and cool and congrats cuz i have never heard u mention ur hrs before

[abstract heron]

i want to get aleast 20 000 and mikael and jason know and i will do big ping once i get there

[ornate saffron]

he is working towards a 20k hour review. I want a long for video essay though

[dense violet]

whyyyyyyy I never did that in the old days either xD

[rough shore]

watch it be a negative review tho

[abstract heron]

i am currently making 100 nuclear pasta project my world atm is foundation lag hologram when it sets in LAG

[untold grove]

Old days = me when I was dumb, to clarify

[abstract heron]

or even i delete one LAG

[lilac monolith]

Mighty conveyor, thou'rt a trueborn line.
Lend me thy throughput, o kindred.
Deliver me unto greater efficiency.

[abstract heron]

even little power tower LAG

[mortal ginkgo]

New days: You are in fire kek

[abstract heron]

BTW dis NO overclocking

[untold grove]

I like fire

[ornate saffron]

gotta purge the rot somehow. it worked for the red knights

[whole robin]

Hello Melina from Dark Souls. I am the Sisyphean Insurrectionist from ULTRAKILL

[whole robin]

Is there even enough copper for all that powder??

[abstract heron]

I am using a mod to help me get the copper

[scenic anchor]

Everyone who’s trying to look for help on the satisfactory or looking for more bodies because you’re trying to get your super factory together faster needs to start saying inside of their descriptors if they’re on 1.1 or 1.2

[whole robin]

What does it do?

[scenic anchor]

On tier 4 of the space Tower copper is king

[abstract heron]

Gives me any fluid or item or anything its called magic machines mod

[untold grove]

Chester

OMG I said Chester

CHEATER

[slim lark]

Hey everyone, I just joined the server and wanted to say how much I love this game. It is incredibly addictive, frustrating, rewarding, funny, scary, and one of the greatest places to be in a videogame. ❤️

Hope you all have a great time in Satisfactory

[slim lark]

I guess the Converter is somewhat close to this, isn't it?

[rough shore]

thats so not cool

[abstract heron]

Why is that

[rough shore]

cuz

yk

[earnest condor]

It is incredibly addictive, frustrating, rewarding, funny, scary, and one of the greatest places to be in a videogame.

So you'd say the experience is... Satisfactory? 😛 💛

[rough shore]

hahahahhahhahhhahhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahhhahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahhahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahah
🤣 😂

[slim lark]

Everyone is playing the game just how she/he likes. It might not be your thing, but it's someone else's. In my eyes, it also defeats the purpose of the game, but leothelion9 likes it.

[clear aspen]

Wsp yall

[slim lark]

Just so, pioneer ⭐

[rough shore]

if u want more of a resource than the map has to offer then its 100% justifiable tho

[slim lark]

And even then, you could use the Converter 😉

[rough shore]

uh not at that level yet so wouldnt know

[abstract heron]

all i say play how u want to play

[rough shore]

yeah but there is cool kind of play and really not cool kind of play

[abstract heron]

i am playing cool kind of playing

[rough shore]

i believe

u

[abstract heron]

i also use a mod where i have no world bounds among others

[rough shore]

only mod i would like is disco science in satisfactory frfr

[abstract heron]

someone made a mod from the 1.0 thing that happened in the hub in september

[untold grove]

So like is there any way I can make the experimental run better? (Multiplayer)

[reef basin]

wdym by "better"?

[untold grove]

Less laggy?

[rough shore]

Less laggy probably?

[abstract heron]

Oh fun someone spamming chanels

<@&387163995947270144> can u find who is doing that

[dreamy nova]

Scam images that were automatically detected by our Moderation bot :)

[abstract heron]

oh thx and hi mod

[untold grove]

Hello moderator of the discordian server !

[clear aspen]

When was that implemented? I could’ve sworn that was new

[abstract heron]

i was going to same thing and a other thing needs to be added the scam imanges

[untold grove]

Soooooo, pretty please help?

[abstract heron]

i say take one thing at a time and even having a world for testing plus learning the game do that

[untold grove]

Huh

[abstract heron]

thats how i played my first world which i still have to play

make a world and don't care about per minute etc etc

[untold grove]

I… don’t think you got the question

[abstract heron]

maybe 😛

[untold grove]

I was talking about how the experimental was very laggy and unplayable for me

[dreamy nova]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-nod-nodding-gif-4572995

[untold grove]

Moderator has spoken

[abstract heron]

question how about those scam imanges saying mrbeast etc etc ones

[stoic sand]

Hey guys any new infos about the new experimental patch ?

[spice patio]

Probably fixable.
Make #1038092680493801533 thread.
Specify your GPU.

[spice patio]

Delayed again.
And wrong channel for Experimental.

QA lead is sick.

[stoic sand]

Oh okay where did they mention it ?

[spice patio]

Yesterdays stream.

[stoic sand]

Okay thanks !

[hearty flame]

#screenshots message
@outer ocean what is it used for?

[lofty juniper]

cables im guessing

[grave cove]

Hey guys i just wanna know real quick, not in details just a yes or no question, is it worth it to turn Turbofuel into Rocket Fuel for power generation ? Is it worth the cost for power generation ?

[dense violet]

depends what you want

[outer ocean]

Any smelting ors and can construct twice like make Screws & cable etc

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[dense violet]

imo nuclear is much less spammy and it's simple

[grave cove]

Only power

[hearty flame]

fair enough

[dense violet]

you can get power lots of ways

[grave cove]

Yeah but I never used these recipes and I wanna d oone ultimate fuel based power plant

[dense violet]

then it sounds like you want to do it no matter what anyone says

[grave cove]

This is not my question sorry but i'm just asking if it's worth it power wise, as it costs a few more buildings that cost a lot of power to operate

[grave cove]

Yes I want to do it my question is another thing xd

[dense violet]

if you want to do it, it's worth it

personally I don't like spamming 1000+ generators

[grave cove]

I'm talking power wise

[dense violet]

you can have lots of power

[grave cove]

Is this guy ragebaiting me lmao ?

[hearty flame]

make both and figure out which ones better, like trial and error

[grave cove]

Aight i'll leave ty for ur time

[dense violet]

I have no idea what you are trying to ask

can it make lots of power?
yes

[grave cove]

Is it worth it power wise

[dense violet]

what does that mean?

personally I hate rocket fuel as power. I think it's dumb
is that your question?

[grave cove]

Is it worth it to use rocketfuel considering the building using extra power to turn turbofuel into rocketfuel, or should I only use up to turbofuel for power generation

[dense violet]

you make more power with the rocket fuel by adding more resources to it

[grave cove]

I'm not talking about preferences no

Allright it's fine you don't understand my question x), let it go

[dense violet]

the only way you can decide if it's 'worth it' is if you think the sacrifice of those resources is a good exchange

[clear aspen]

Wsp yall

[dense violet]

do you think the exchange is good?

[torpid estuary]

I just finished the game. What a moment! Got goose bumps

Also those credits ❤️

This has been such a long journey

[grave cove]

This is still not the question but it's fine xd
I'll just try it on my own and figure it out

[dense violet]

you haven't given any critieria as to what is worth it.

if english is your second language using a translator at this point might help ?

[grave cove]

Stop the ragebait

[whole robin]

For the amount of additional machines you need for the nictric acid, yes. Rocket fuel does give you a net positive of power

[dense violet]

@reef basin do you know what the hell this person is trying to say?

[grave cove]

I will reformulate my question with a very simple analogy so you can understand it

[weak bloom]

There is no objective answer to whether something is "worth it" in this game, that's why it's such a weird question to answer. Different approaches have different pros and cons and drawbacks, depending on what you value in your playthrough and what you're trying to accomplish

[dense violet]

I told them this at least once, if not twice

[reef basin]

every power option has drawbacks and advantages. Mostly it's about adding resources to convert to power

[dense violet]

at this point I'm assuming troll

[grave cove]

Using random values :

Fuel A = gives 100MW per m3 per minute
Fuel B = gives 200 MW per m3 per minute

Fuel A takes 50MW to produce one m3 per minute, so you gain 50MW
Fuel B takes the cost of Fuel A + 125 MW because of the other buildings required for the craft per m3 per minute, so you gain 25MW.

Despite Fuel B giving more power per m3 it ends up giving less because of the crafting cost.

This is my question, there's a lot of recipes involved in it and the question is here so I can get the opinion of xperienced players to avoid doing calculations for nothing if it is not worth it.

[weak bloom]

I don't think there's any fuel in the game that is negative vs the power it takes to produce it

So in that sense they are all "worth it" I guess

[grave cove]

You seem to understand things better, so the answer is yes, it is worth it power wise ? It will be worth it even if there's a lot more power hungry buildings in the recipe ?

[dense violet]

you add more resources to turbo fuel
you make RF
you will make more power than what the TF gave you

this has been said already

[grave cove]

I used the term "worth it power wise" yeah, because there's the worth it for resources as someone else said, which in this case i don't really care about

[dense violet]

this includes the power it cost to make it

here, go do whatever calculations you want https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[weak bloom]

I think 1.2 experimental might change things if you use power multipliers but yeah afaik every fuel type is net positive power to burn vs what it takes to make it, no matter the recipe combination

[grave cove]

Aight tyvm for the clear answer.

[whole robin]

My brother in ADA. The couple of machines you need to make the needed nitric acid and mixing said acid with TF does not use that much power. You gain a significant amount of power from the conversion.

[grave cove]

I never used any of these machines yet I just unlocked the fuels that's why I asked, ty for the answers

And that machine I unlocked consumes 75MW at 100% power so I was kinda scared

[dense violet]

they were told this over and over

[weak bloom]

The thing is. That's why we're saying "worth" is a weird metric. Because the purely power perspective means that you NEED to use other considerations when deciding whether to use a particular fuel.

Asking whether it's worth it from a power perspective isn't really useful because the answer is always yes. So you need to consider all the other pros and cons of each fuel type.

And that's true of everything in the game

[grave cove]

Nah you have been quite insulting, I told you to let it go because you didn't understand the question and you kept attacking me. Others answered the question clearly without being agressive. Try that next time.

[weak bloom]

There isn't anything that is objectively wrong to build. There's various tradeoffs to everything

[grave cove]

I'm still relatively new to the game so I don't really have that knowledge of everything is worth it power wise srry

[ornate saffron]

just expand you power as needed. as you go through the game your power needs will increase. This is the way

[whole robin]

Its like 2 blenders (75 MW), a smelter, a constructor, a water extractor, a resource well extractor (150 MW), and a couple of pumps to move the water. And you multiply whatever power you made beforw by like 1.8

[grave cove]

Btw do we know the exact fuel consumption of rocket fuel by the fuel generator ? first displays says 4.17, the tooltip says 4.167 so the display is rounded, but is the tooltip also a rounded version of something else ? Or is it the final precise value ?

[lean fossil]

anyone know a nice yellow color for sulfuric pipes

[ornate saffron]

if you clock it to 240% a fuel gen will use 10/min of rocket fuel

[whole robin]

How many power shards do you have

[slim lark]

This confirms that the actual consumption rate is 4.166666...

[grave cove]

Oh fk i didnt think about that

[grave cove]

Yep

[ornate saffron]

its just a clock to make head math easier.

[slim lark]

240% is a lot of shards to make the math easier

[lean fossil]

anyone?

[whole robin]

If you're able to use in machines, use them to double the shards you get from slugs, and you'll be swimming in shards in no time

[grave cove]

I'll do 249,984% for 10.416 per generator, I guess that's the last safe number ?

[ornate saffron]

saves you a lot of time placeing generators too. I make RF in lots of 300. so 30 gernetors per lot

[whole robin]

What?

[ornate saffron]

what ever works for you ^_^

[grave cove]

Yeah i've been doing that trick it's kinda strong, but the question i'm still trying to find the answer to right now is what recipes i'm going to use, to know how much rocket fuel i'll have in the end. Which will tell me how many generators I will need, and so, how many shards aswell

[dense violet]

you were linked a planner https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[grave cove]

the 250% consumption is 10.41666.. etc
So the last safe "flat" number for me would be 10.416 no ?

isn't maximum % number you can set manually 3 numbers after the comma ?

[whole robin]

If you want the best return on power, wait to get Nitro Rocket Fuel, it turns raw sulfur, coal, nitrogen gas, and fuel straight into RF. Really simple, but its limited by the sulfur you have

[grave cove]

Well i found a pond with 6 oil nodes, some sulfur and nitrogen gas all at the same spot, at the bottom of the map, so that seems perfect

[whole robin]

Man are the extra 4 saved generators every 25 placed really worth the headache

[ornate saffron]

thats blue crater. its (possibly) the best fuel power location in the game

[grave cove]

yes

[ornate saffron]

You can fit 4 fuel generators on a Mark 2 blueprinter FYI

[grave cove]

Really ? it seems smaller than that, lemem try

Oh nice

[earnest condor]

Shards are infinite though?

[grave cove]

But issue is you can't make a blueprint with pipes

[grave cove]

I haven't unlocked that recipe yet, i'm at phase 8

[whole robin]

Yeah you can?

[whole robin]

phase EIGHT??

[earnest condor]

Who said anything about a recipe?

[grave cove]

Not if you stack 4 generators side by side in the mk2

[grave cove]

I hate exploring :c

[ocean leaf]

person must have satisfactory 3.0

[whole robin]

Connect the generators, THEN put the junctions

[grave cove]

Or stage eight whatever you call it , idk the name xD

[ocean leaf]

all good, just pulling your leg, it's tier 🙂

[ornate saffron]

you make the inputs kiss. then connect with them with a pipe. this makes two sets of 2. then put a junction on the pipes then connect the two junctions

[whole robin]

The eighth milestone?

[grave cove]

I was close

[whole robin]

Yeah, that

[grave cove]

Last time I tried that it didnt want to connect, lemme try again in that blueprint

Ah yeah way easier this way

That's gonna help a ton

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

you can OC them on in the Bp too

[grave cove]

Yeah, i forgot you could place them directly like that

[grave cove]

OC ?

[ornate saffron]

Overclock

[grave cove]

Oh nice

[ornate saffron]

when you place them it will have the Power shards already in them set the way you want. it will use shards in cloud storage as well

[grave cove]

I'll check the recipes i'll use right now

To know if i have enough shards

[whole robin]

Blueprints also generally help with things you have to place lots of, like machine manifolds, generators, pieces of architecture, or niche things like hypertube boosters or instant biofuel burners with biofuel for crash sites

[ornate saffron]

these tricks can help when you need to place 240 (576 not overclocked) generators after making 600 oil worth of Nitro rocket fuel lol

[grave cove]

excuse me ?

How many ?

[whole robin]

You'll need all of them if you wanna go big later, trust

[ornate saffron]

600 oil makes 2400 rocket full if you use Heavy oil residue, Diluted fuel and Nitro rocket fuel.

2400/4.16666 = roughly 576

[plucky bone]

Is there a way to see what recipes you have unlocked in game?

[ornate saffron]

only by browsing the codex

[dense violet]

look at your codex

[whole robin]

Hit the "o" key

[plucky bone]

Ok

[weak bloom]

It's 144 isn't it

Wait no 144 x 4

[whole robin]

No thats for 600 rocket fuel

[ornate saffron]

i showed my math ^)^

[weak bloom]

But yeah I have my giant cube of 144x4 fuel generators for 2400 rocket fuel

It's truly glorious

[grave cove]

So 2 448 power generators at 100% speed if i use all the oil nodes from that pond ?

[weak bloom]

I haven't had to think about power in like 300 hours

[ornate saffron]

ya, Nitro rocket fuel is great to just build out once and forget

[ornate saffron]

"I have a Nitro rocket fuel primer if you want a copy. its just a google document

[weak bloom]

There are later recipes once you get the blender that can get you 2400 rocket fuel out of 600 oil.
I don't even use all the nodes in the lake for that - I have a couple other nodes making turbo fuel for drones and plastic for computers

[grave cove]

That's 612GW worth of power

[grave cove]

I have the blender

[weak bloom]

Yeah using all the oil in the lake for rocket fuel is hilariously overkill. Even the one 600 node is pretty overkill lol

[ornate saffron]

with Nitro rocket fuel 600 oil is 144Gw of power. you use 6gw to make it

[grave cove]

yeah I started using blueprints only very recently, my first "project" was my first road, built it here with blueprints I made : #design-and-architecture message #design-and-architecture message

[grave cove]

Yeah that's insane

But that will require 980 generators and 2940 power shards

I'm hesitating

[ornate saffron]

no 240 generators with 720 shards

[grave cove]

yeah if I use only one oil node, I planned to use more xd

[reef basin]

"Worth" is subjective (as you've been told before). Whether or not you find it worth to convert the resources (depends on recipes) to power is up to you.

There's no wrong decision in SF, anything can be worth if you find it fun and engaging

[next ivy]

unless you give us some parameters to optimize for

[ornate saffron]

if you do one Oil node at a time (but plan for more) you can build it out as you need it, this can help with the fatigue of placing the same thing repeatedly. Then when you are getting close to your power production lets say 10gw. go back and build out more ^_^

[rigid wedge]

Gotta turn 600 crude oil into rocket fuel to have 1 bazillion trucks

[ornate saffron]

this way you are spending your time on what you need. leaving more time for progression and other projects

[whole robin]

Use 1800 to fuel 5 ficillion trucks and make a trucker empire

[rigid wedge]

Yes

[untold grove]

Ooh, okay thanks.

[grave cove]

I play games that require a lot of repeating the same thing so it's fine to me, the only issue is getting those resources, and maybe, actually, planning how i'm going to set this up

[ornate saffron]

for nitro rocket fuel tyou can make a easy repeatable Blueprint it take s 75 oil and makes 300 rf. this allows for easy scalling regardless of oil node purity

[grave cove]

I did the maths very quickly for ONE pure oil node, so i'm not sure if i'm accurate BUT :
600 Crude Oil into 800 Hard Oil with Heavy Oil Residue Recipe (30 for 40)
800 Hard Oil into 1600 Fuel with Diluted Fuel recipe (50 for 100)
1600 Fuel with nitrogen, sulfur and coal for 2400 nitro fuel (100 for 150)

2400 nitro fuel at 4.167 per generator is 576 generators (or 231 with shards) for 144GW.

Where did go wrong if i did ?

[whole robin]

Azote?

[grave cove]

Nitrogen*

[ornate saffron]

i dont see a issue. But lets simplify

Blue print

Refinery set to HOR 250% Overclock
feeds
blender Diluted fuel set to 200% Overclock
feeds
blender Nitro rocket fuel set to 200% Overclock

this uses
100 Coal
150 Nitrogen
200 Sulfur
200 Fuel (made in the previous Blender)
75 oil and some water
to make to make 300 RF
and some compact coal

this becoems a single blueprint you can stamp down as needed.

[whole robin]

Sir/ma'am are you french

[grave cove]

no

🇫🇷

[ornate saffron]

impure node of oil

use this twice to make 600 Rocket fuel

normal oil node

use it four times to get 1200 RF

pure

use it 8 times for 2400 rocket fuel

[grave cove]

Yeah i think i'm going to be forced to use blueprints for set amounts, but for another reason

I'm currently only making a passive 10 motors a minute, I have enough in stock to make 160 Fuel Generators, so I will have to wait for my storage to be refilled to continuer building

First time i'm actually running out of materials

[ornate saffron]

i have it all typed out here

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KiMC2ajn9OooWeQnWG3csgfZwU5j11qRiBTSdGtKUNs/edit?usp=drivesdk

feel free to make a copy

[grave cove]

I think i'm going to make me a specific temporary factory for each material required in fuel generator's craft first

[whole robin]

Go work on another project while you wait, or increase upload capacity

[clear aspen]

I just saw a bot send a server invite for like a split second then got everserated

[ornate saffron]

lol ya, the system works well.

[grave cove]

Issue is going to be the production speed sadly, bc i'm uploading at 240/min but I never planned to need that many resources of this kind yet

[hollow nova]

Just go afk and make dinner or something

[grave cove]

Well that's the goal xd

[reef basin]

Afk should never be a goal

[grave cove]

The goal is to get a better factory for each resource so my afk time can be more rewarding

[supple canopy]

you need 1200 nitrogen no?

[earnest condor]

Forcing yourself to never afk makes the game more engaging imo.
Because you find there is always something productive to do.

[whole robin]

Explore to find sombersloops

[grave cove]

Oh fk you're right

[ornate saffron]

personally I am to play, not go afk. SOMETIMES ill stretch and get water while i wait for could storage to refill thats about it. Other then that if the game is on i am active

[whole robin]

That'll spend plenty of time to make the motors

[ornate saffron]

on the west side of Blue crater there is nitrogen BUT to the east there is another source not far

[grave cove]

I don't wanna use all resources of the map for this tho, I wanna use only stuff aroudn this pond

[earnest condor]

The node to the NE of Blue Crater is the perfect spot for Nitric Acid imo. Since there are iron nodes like 40m away from it.

[rigid wedge]

I always take a eternity to decide where to place anything

[reef basin]

If you need to afk, you didn't build enough production

[rigid wedge]

I blink once and 1k smart plating done

[ornate saffron]

honestly a single pure node of oil will be more then enough for the average player that just wants to get to credits.

[supple canopy]

tap it, you're unlikely to run out of nitrogen

[ornate saffron]

ya, where to build and blocking it out can take time

[supple canopy]

sometimes I select 2 or 3 biomes or spots I never built in and use a randomizer online to make choices of where to build the next outpost

[reef basin]

It's pretty much unrealistic to run out of resources in any casual play. Even 1/4th of the map would probably be enough

[supple canopy]

I got red pillars for my nuclear pp 😭

[rigid wedge]

I can’t get myself to touch the majestic map scenery too. Which has led to my current playthrough where I aim to truck everything through the map without using a foundation for anything

[grave cove]

Yes:

I am going to be needing 1 728 Power Generators, which will cost 25 920 motors. I currently have 4450 stored and I produce 10 a minute, which results in needing the factory to run for 35.8 hours for me to have enough resources.

So yes i NEED to make bigger factories for the other resources first.

I am aiming a 5 hour wait maximum for everything, which means I will need a 71.567 motor per minute factory

[rigid wedge]

Took me 8 hours to connect the sulfur node truck with the oil stuff

[grave cove]

Yeah I don't wanna go too far for this specific reason xd

[rigid wedge]

Takes 9 min per trip

[whole robin]

Too real 😔

[supple canopy]

build 300, then continue working on another project, build another 300...

[rigid wedge]

I just sit in it and think to myself good job baal… why is it driving 15kmh?!

[supple canopy]

yes sometimes an entire game session will be dedicated to polishing up a copper input...

[rigid wedge]

Tru

[grave cove]

I think i'm gonna use my 4450 to start building so I can have enough power t obuild the other factories, I currently have only 13GW left to use and i'm not sure if it's going to be enough to build the other factories to craft the generators

[rigid wedge]

Glad u guys are suffering too

[violet glen]

I don't think I ever felt the need to build almost 2000 fuel gens 🤔

[grave cove]

Yeah but ngl if I wanted to rush the game I wouldv'e been done with it already, the only thing that keeps me going right now is building side projects that aren't really useful

[rigid wedge]

I wouldn’t even know where to fit them

[grave cove]

Me neither but the game has a lot of verticality xD

[rigid wedge]

Maybe make a combustion space elevator

[violet glen]

I build 64 of them, overclocked them to 200%, and that carried me almost the entire game

[rigid wedge]

Since rocket fuel uses upside down gravity

[plucky bone]

And me here with 3366MW power using 3K+ and building a HOR diluted fuel power station. Can't wait for rocket fuel.

[violet glen]

only now that I'm doing crazy stuff with particle accelerators I built a nuclear power plant with 36 reactors

[grave cove]

This quick project is going to skyrocket my power generation from 29.36GW to 461,36GW

[supple canopy]

yes those go wild, I'm going nuclear too specifically to be able to overclock/sloop quantum encoders with no worries

[violet glen]

My one particle accelerator making nuclear pasta uses 90% of my total power consumption :D

cause I max overclocked it and slooped it

[grave cove]

Wait I have a new project, 5m MW

[violet glen]

Just turn all uranium in the world into power

it's not even THAT much

[grave cove]

I haven't touched a single bit of uranium other than the protection suti but apparently it's pretty strong yeah

[ornate saffron]

this makes no sense. please use formates properly. I think you mean 5000tw

[grave cove]

you mean 5tw ? xD

[violet glen]

5 million megawatt is more than 5 terrawatt

[ornate saffron]

5 tw is not likely either. you pc will likely quit on you first.

All the worlds nuclear is 1.4 tw clean

[supple canopy]

5pw

[rigid wedge]

I’m making like 4mw from geysers

[violet glen]

That's nothing, you mean GW?

[whole robin]

Isnt a terawatt a million megawatts?

[grave cove]

Are you sure ? Isn't 1 terrawat 1m mw ? I know number names differ in my country, like billion for us is english's trillion but i didnt know there was differences to power names aswell?

[rigid wedge]

Oh yes mb

[ornate saffron]

think so but i wasnt willing to go past TW lol

[earnest condor]

1 TW = 1,000 GW = 1,000,000 MW
Yes.
So 5 TW = 5,000,000 MW

[violet glen]

I think you're right, it's 5.000.000.000.000 Watt

[whole robin]

If you reach a terawatt, that's plenty overkill, and you should probably just finish the game at that point

[grave cove]

You can't say "i thin you're right" without tagging the person you're replying to, that's criminal

[earnest condor]

I think you BOTH mean:
6.7051E+9 Horsepower

🇺🇸 🦅

[violet glen]

It's just very confusing to go beyond 999 in the same unit

[earnest condor]

😏

[grave cove]

I'll be at 46.1% of one TW in around 7 to 10 hours from now

[whole robin]

No. You wont

[grave cove]

I swear I will, I just need to make my new factories

[earnest condor]

How does one finish a sandbox that, by definition, has no ending? 🤔

[grave cove]

Well technically it has a lore ending and a technical ending (finishing everything there is to unlock)

[whole robin]

If your factory uses 460,000 MW, there is something deeply wrong

[earnest condor]

That's like saying Minecraft ends the moment you kill the dragon..

[grave cove]

But it's liek saying you finished minecraft, yeah

[grave cove]

chips

[earnest condor]

fries

😏

[violet glen]

460GW isn't that crazy for a big world spanning late game file?

[grave cove]

Can't use foreign jokes by just translating the words, that sucks

[violet glen]

Specially if particle accelerators are involved

[whole robin]

Since when do watts convert to horsepower?

[violet glen]

Always did?

[earnest condor]

Since my country will do anything to not use metric 😭

[grave cove]

That will be at the start of tier 8 without nuclear and without particle accelerators

[violet glen]

That's why cars list their power in kW and HP

[whole robin]

Ive been an american my whole life, and ive NEVER heard a SINGLE PERSON convert Watts to horsepower

[earnest condor]

Well you can't say that anymore can you? 😏

[violet glen]

Well, HP is just an archaic unit for the same thing that stuck for cars

[lyric zodiac]

A horse not having a single horse power is a crime against reason

[grave cove]

I'm pretty sure I saw someone convert watts to cheeseburgers one time

[whole robin]

And im pretty sure that horsepower measures the amount of work an engine can do

[violet glen]

Legally, at least around here, a cars power must be given in kW. All manufacturers also list it in HP below it, cause that's what people know better for cars.

[grave cove]

really ?

[violet glen]

But the primary value that the laws use is kW

[earnest condor]

Pregnant horses run faster because 2 horsepower.
Change my mind

[whole robin]

Doesnt a horse have 8 horsepower?

[latent prawn]

power is work applied over time

[lyric zodiac]

It's a joke I heard a few weeks ago, I laughed too much at it to even consider checking

[whole robin]

Thank you for the correction

[grave cove]

I mean yeah, you're not going to measure the power consumption of your microwave in terrawatts thats for sure

[violet glen]

If your car is a microwave, I have concerns

[lyric zodiac]

The peak is 15, according to my very quick google search

[grave cove]

Same thing, one has wheels, the other doesnt

[whole robin]

No????

[mortal ginkgo]

I made an entire Catwalk BP System to build faster, and I am not using it. Am I stupidly impure?

[whole robin]

Since when do microwaves have wheels???

[lyric zodiac]

Impurity is reaching critical levels with this one

[whole robin]

We all are.

[latent prawn]

impurely stupid

[grave cove]

the other way

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean I am still providing 30/min limestone, thats something but sometimes I am really like "bruh"

[whole robin]

What other way? The spinning dish inside it? That is not a wheel

[violet glen]

since when do wheels have microwaves?

[grave cove]

First time i ever see a satisfactory lore accurate joke

[grave cove]

It is a wheel, it's just not turning vertically

[lyric zodiac]

You're doing your best, and that's what matters - we'll find a use for you, some day

[grave cove]

A steering wheel is a wheel even if it's not spinning vertically right ?

[latent prawn]

...when limestone meets SAM

[grave cove]

marry a power charge asap

[whole robin]

It does turn vertically

[grave cove]

incorrect

[whole robin]

What steering wheels do you use????

[tepid spear]

guys I need many motors. MANY. But I have one Factory for rotors which produces 8 per Min. The nearest Iron Node is like 1400 Meters away what should I do because I need Stators

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah obviously it is player's fault to not make a factory based on ME and my output. Thats a truly you problem buddybrothermankekeke

[grave cove]

french ones

[mortal ginkgo]

you mean power shard?

[grave cove]

No idea tbh

[unkempt blade]

total skill issue for sure

[lyric zodiac]

Get walkin' son

[tepid spear]

bro and how to get it there

[mortal ginkgo]

You ain't one to talk.

[tepid spear]

because the terrain doesnt allow a Tractor

[lyric zodiac]

One foot in front of the other sir

[tepid spear]

thats hard

[whole robin]

okay man

[unkempt blade]

yeah you're right, I never have skill issues because I always follow the one true concrete build pattern

[mortal ginkgo]

reported to mods for harrassment btw, enjoy your perman discord ban + reddit ban

[whole robin]

I really dont feel like arguing over steering wheel designs that dont exist

[unkempt blade]

this is the meanest anyone has ever been to me while I was agreeing with them

[lyric zodiac]

That's very impure of you

[grave cove]

Actually, tractors do have non vertical steering wheels

[unkempt blade]

they have horizontal normal wheels too which is also strange

[earnest condor]

Tractor with HOTAS when?

[frozen ingot]

probably a bit late to the discussion but they're both units of power but only one is an SI unit 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

I rather you to not agree with me since you are really a low output thing.

I am better than you.

BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU!

[frozen ingot]

and yeah very rarely would anyone care to convert - but you can! I'm pretty sure all car manufacturers officially use both units for their engines now

[unkempt blade]

I still love you and I'm glad we're best friends

[earnest condor]

And I'd wager they measure in watts and just convert for the HP sticker tbh.

[frozen ingot]

definitely!

although i guess some might have old enough equipment that still works in hp and they convert. But i would imagine all modern equipment defaults to SI

[frozen ingot]

try #1038092680493801533 but also - just find a spot with the resource nodes you need nearby, and build there!

it's a big map, you got to spread out at a certain point, and motors is usually the first part that i manufacture en masse away from my starter base

[tepid spear]

Ok thx

[frozen ingot]

just need iron, coal and copper with vanilla recipe and you can omit the last two if you really want, i've actually made two mk1 blueprints for iron only motors recently. Just to try something new 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

I am busy making the stupidiest BP ever that I will probably use once, max twice

[unkempt blade]

truly #️⃣ efficiency

[mortal ginkgo]

like bro look at this #screenshots message

It is a large pillar and I have no idea where to use it

I am like "it might come handly"

AS IF I AM GOOD AT FUTURE PLANNING

The only thing I am good at is speedrunning object limit in this game

[unkempt blade]

you need a factory hanging off the side of a cliff or some skyroads or something

because that looks really awesome and you need to use it

[mortal ginkgo]

Thank you, you look awesome too!

So you saying I should make a factory because I made the pillar first? GENIUS

[unkempt blade]

yeah it would be a waste to not use it and ficsit does not waste!

[slim lark]

It is incredible how much time I spent in this game and how shitty my stuff looks in comparison to your pieces of art, folks 😄

[unkempt blade]

a lot of people around here haven't been outside since like 2020 so I'd just keep that in mind when comparing your stuff against what you see here

[worn oar]

Does anyone else have a problem where the game will randomly freeze for anywhere from a few seconds to a minute? Doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother there is a reason I do not have Oil unlocked yet.

By this speed of decoration, I think we will have Satisfactory 2 - Revenge of the Spheres DLC+ released.

[ornate saffron]

i get a lag spike when the game autosaves now. but my save has reached the 15mb size

[cinder notch]

Satisfactory 2 when? Devs pls

[mortal ginkgo]

when I am done decorating kek

[tall lantern]

what would you expect from a 2 that couldn't/wouldn't be done in this one?

[unkempt blade]

mk2 factory cart, golf

[tall lantern]

and that people would actually want, my bad should've been clearer

[unkempt blade]

screws in every recipes, high powered yeet-compatible jump pads, better boom box sound range

hypertube overclocking, being able to ride the elevator up into space, more ancient alien voices during exploration

getting rid of rocket fuel, a doggo sled for the ficsmas event, permanent pinata in the hub

ok I think I'm done, that's all my wishlist

[slim lark]

What's wrong with rocket fuel? 🙁

[unkempt blade]

not balanced well against other fuel types, too simple for the payoff

[sour shoal]

Ngl ik a roblox game thats like satisfactory but harder

[slim lark]

Hm, that is kinda true. I was amazed how much power I get for that little effort

I first did rocket fuel power, then nuclear power, and gosh, was that a lof of work

[unkempt blade]

it's a sandbox game so it's not really important for stuff to "balance" but as far as game progression goes it feels out of place to my. Nuclear is a lot more power than fuel for example but it increases the complexity a good bit as well

[slim lark]

yep

[unkempt blade]

rocket fuel didn't feel any harder than turbo fuel to me it just gives a lot more power

[slim lark]

Especially with a few alt recipes

skipping turbo altogether

[west jackal]

especially with nitro rf alt 🙂

[ornate saffron]

my next power project is likely Ionized

[west jackal]

i think some dude on the server mightve made some kinda template that works well for nitro rf 😉

[ornate saffron]

ya, he linked it here earlier today actually

[tame bobcat]

oh so im not the only one who plays INCREDIBLY slow to prioritise decoration?

[ornate saffron]

that's my playstyle atm

[west jackal]

im trying that... but it ended up with me just building bigger factories instead 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

my brother, its been 800+ in game days here. Puppies and Kitties are long gone. I need that pillar look better. Sorry not sorry.

[unkempt blade]

I don't worry too much about decoration until I have enough awesomeshop stuff (and preferably the hoverpack) unlocked but then it slows down a ton

[pearl whale]

Is there a hotkey to open the to-do list?

[west jackal]

the to do list just stays open ... doesnt it?

[pearl whale]

I meant to edit it

[slim lark]

Open build menu, then you can access it

Think that is the quickest way

[pearl whale]

Thanks

[ornate saffron]

two clicks, Can confirm this is quick

[sour shoal]

85h in my first time playing and i got nuclear power now is that mid ?

[mortal ginkgo]

I worry WAY too much. Like look at this: #screenshots message

I was like "mmh, this pillar needs more detail"

[rough shore]

playtime doesnt really matter some ppl speedrun some ppl handcraft some ppl go for perfection

[mortal ginkgo]

BROTHERMAN THIS THING WONT EVEN BE SEEN PROPERLY UNDER THE FACTORY

[ornate saffron]

define "mid" in this context. Is this a reply to something?

[west jackal]

playtime doesnt matter, what matters is how spaghetti your belts are

[sour shoal]

idk i build mine clean

[sour shoal]

well if good or bad

[west jackal]

but again, mid is very subjective lol

[rough shore]

pre edit was the correct one lmao

[sour shoal]

makes sense i wasted some time to making good factorys

[ornate saffron]

niether. hours verses progress doesnt matter at all. The only metric that matters is enjoyment

[sour shoal]

right lol i started reading from mine lol

[west jackal]

i doubt you have many "good" factories at 80h and nuclear, especially if you make them clean.

sorry that was snobbish.

[rough shore]

jealous guy right here ^ (cant fix his own pipes frfr)

[west jackal]

oh hush penguin

[rough shore]

ok dylan

[sour shoal]

well uh i have 1 big one in the desert making most of the stuff i can show it one sec

oh no image perms nvm

[rough shore]

dw we believe u its just some ppl are salty they aint as good as the rest of us fr 🤷‍♂️

[minor rock]

with a satisfactory ai helper we could generate parallax textures on the fly to apply anywhere and change their look dynamically to fit the scene

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots if you want to show off,

#design-and-architecture and #math-and-meta for conversation

[rough shore]

(didnt mention any names)

[minor rock]

doesnt that sound great ??

[mortal ginkgo]

RRRRREEEEEE SSSSSSSSSS WOFF WOFF

[rough shore]

are u okay

[sour shoal]

k well its not perfect but i send a ss

[ornate saffron]

I didnt respond in the other channel because i can think of no worse hell.

@meager idol Draw a penis and the cool S in that note book

#fan-art message
\

[tall lantern]

risky click

[meager idol]

why

[ornate saffron]

seems like the Best use

[meager idol]

._.

[ornate saffron]

[ornate saffron]

cool S ( ) and penises are common in highschool notebooks. thats the joke

[meager idol]

I am not in shock at school, I made these notebooks to write down calculations from the game, and also to draw something

[minor rock]

@mortal ginkgo @ornate saffron #screenshots just imagine the potential

[sour shoal]

well i sended some pics in not fully done yet since evrything is still open and kinda messy at few parts

[rough shore]

build the space elevator frfrfr

[ornate saffron]

Ive never been a fan of the "main" base thought. I spread out like the plague. building factories with purpose

[sour shoal]

yeah idk where to place it yet

[sour shoal]

well its kinda cool having a big storage with all needed materials and items

[rough shore]

main base looks sick if yk how to just build one giant building and not an orange box

[sour shoal]

yeah my storage room is already done but theres few conveyers couse i am crafting supercomputers quick

[rough shore]

just keep it where u placed it before

[sour shoal]

nah i wanna make a cool spot for it

[rough shore]

then make one fr

[sour shoal]

yeah prob soon but lowkey check my storage room out fr fr

sended ss of it

[rough shore]

in my opinion (im terrible at building so dont take my word) but looks sick but the storage containers themselves like the front of the containers what u see i dont like

[sour shoal]

well its just temporary i wanna put signs there

[sour shoal]

so how many nuclear power plants should i build maybe 30 ?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[tame bobcat]

so true 🙏

[stark ridge]

I was looking at the 1.2 features and they look dope. but I havent finished my very first playtrough with 1.1 yet. I was thinking should i migrate to 1.2 experimental version mid run? If I do that am I able to go back if for some reason I wanted to? Am I likely to come a across problems when 1.2 launch is? Anything else that might lead me to having bad time?

[vagrant oriole]

Hey guys, do you know if there is an inventory expansion mod that's already working with 1.2?

[rough shore]

u dont need one tho

[sour shoal]

how much uranium per min is 1 nuclear power plant tho

[mortal ginkgo]

all of it. dont question. consume.

[sour shoal]

bruh

[vagrant oriole]

Inventory mod? Is there an alternative? The one thing I dislike is the constant back and forth for materials.

[sour shoal]

well about 1.2 per min for 1 nuclear power plant

[mortal ginkgo]

Dimensional Depots?

[sour shoal]

so i can do about 50 or something

[vagrant oriole]

those are unusable early

[sour shoal]

about 100 if mk3 miner

[mortal ginkgo]

how come?

[ornate saffron]

I measure by node. One impure node gives you 7.2 uranium rods a minute

[sour shoal]

well with what miner tho

its 0.2 per npp

[ornate saffron]

Impure nods can give a max of 300 ore a minute.

[sour shoal]

and how much do you get with miner mk3 or is there a better way

[vagrant oriole]

because it takes longer to upload than to walk across the map on foot

[ornate saffron]

Mk3 max overclock is 300min

[sour shoal]

oh mb so you can ez make like 200+ npps

[mortal ginkgo]

you can use multiple DDs for one item, or upgrade the speed etc but hey, if mods gonna fix it for ya, I aint gonna stop ya

[ornate saffron]

No 300 uranium ore can make a max of 7.2 rods a minute without sloops.

You can underclock all your reactors i guess

[sour shoal]

anyway to get more fuel rods ? exept getting more uranium

[sour shoal]

like i see few alternate recipes any of them helpfull ?

[frozen ingot]

looks cool though!

[mortal ginkgo]

thank you! #screenshots message is progress

gotta make top... I have no idea what to do with top lols

[sour shoal]

i see you need plutonium rods

thats best for more npps

time to farm alternate recipes

[ornate saffron]

I planned out my plutonium at the same time. For plutonium rods i use base recipes as my goal was to use as much waste as possible and sink the pluto rods

[sour shoal]

quite sure that base recipe is quite ahh

[sour shoal]

you can sink the waste

like not normal one

from plutonium rods

[ornate saffron]

you cannot

[untold moat]

you can turn PW into FFRs, but you cannot sink the waste itself in vanilla

[ornate saffron]

this is what i did for Uranium rods

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Xu5KgnYxYCZCLk1aA1lq

[sour shoal]

but thats normal fuel rod

[untold moat]

also I had the brilliant idea of designing an auto hypertube junction for my world, and the logic for trying to get it completely auto is a bitannoying

[sour shoal]

wron reply

[worn oar]

You can sink it directly into the ocean and irradiate the water table, destroying the planet's viability permanently 😄