satisfactory

[reef basin]

megafactories in general are just separate factories with extra steps and logistics

[white dawn]

If you do decide to do a "megafactory" my advice would be to keep individual factory lines as isolated as possible, even if they're all in the same "facility"

The routing for your ingots would be an absolute nightmare if you try to centralize them

Not impossible, of course, but it's Hard Mode in ways you may not even realize yet. :)

[reef basin]

The routing for [anything]

[white dawn]

Heh, true

[cold berry]

Hrrmm. So would doing what I'm doing, and then "capping" it every once in a while and making a new shipping area for fresh materials work better?

I can do that.

[white dawn]

If I had a better PC I'd honestly sort of want to try building an Independency-minded megafactory. I think that could be a fun project

My own comp would die long before that playthrough finished, though. :D

[white dawn]

I mean, you can do whatever you want. My advice is still to isolate as much as possible. For every product your factory's making, go from ore->product, as completely independent from everything else as it's possible to be

[cold berry]

I have a 4070tisu and a decent gaming AMD (but nothing to write home about, sadly I don't remember the model name) and I'm trying to see how much it can take a little look

[reef basin]

performance is one thing, but also logistics and planning in general are much harder with megafactories

[cold berry]

I made this sick ass 6-input truck station though. I gotta use it

[lavish inlet]

Why are all of my nuclear reactors at 98% efficiency even though its got full rods and water with no backed up waste?

[cold berry]

Maybe 7 in the end lol

[reef basin]

because the efficiency meter is a running average and not really reliable for that reason

[white dawn]

I mean, sure, though six truck stations will not be nearly enough for a megafactory unless you're producing like sub-single-digit levels of production

[cold berry]

That's why the plan is now multiple shipping departments

It'll be fun and a nightmare 🙂

[tidal thorn]

is there a way to make the stinky flowers despawn forever?

[plain marten]

blow them up

[fluid sapphire]

they respawn

[hearty flame]

i was just scrolling through mods, bc why not
since when was it possible to play in vr?

[ornate saffron]

They are not supposed to tho

[ornate saffron]

A while now.

Vomit rocket edition

[hearty flame]

lmao

[fluid sapphire]

not sure, i have for sure killed the same ones many, many times

[hearty flame]

i dont get motion sick

[ornate saffron]

They are not lol. Its a known bug.

[hearty flame]

from vr anyways

[hollow hazel]

And yet they still do... together with other foliage on occasion.

[ornate saffron]

Ya, its a known bug

[hollow hazel]

And no one's ever going to patch it...

[fluid sapphire]

stock up on gas masks :p

[ornate saffron]

Coffee stain studios are hiring.

In the mean time you can upvote the bug report on the qa site

[lavish inlet]

But all of my machines are doing this now?? They work then they stop for no reason, bug?

[hollow hazel]

which of the hundred should we upvote?

[fluid sapphire]

i can create shitty web apps if they want that, but for bug fixing i am useless 🤷

[ornate saffron]

All of the ones that affect you.

Thats how the choose which ones to fix.

Impact and % of ppl effected

[fluid sapphire]

wasnt there a way to manually place nodes for a truck path, am i hallucinating?

i dont wanna redo a whole path for the 3rd time

[hollow hazel]

Maybe with the use of mods. Otherwise, in vanilla, you drove the path. Now in 1.2 you only manually place tracks as you would train tracks.

[fluid sapphire]

so i hear, but i dont feel like waiting for 1.2 right now

i am planning to re-do these as 1.2 hits

but i also need them to work right now

[worn oar]

Feasible, yes. Viable, IDK how do you feel about lag? Because you're going to have a lot of it.

[ashen quest]

Btw, how the game manage the lag? It's a optimizated game?

[fluid sapphire]

its a miracle it runs as well as it does

css are bloody wizards

you can plop down hundreds of thousands of objects and the game still performs well

not in the same area though

[round ferry]

hi do someone know when the 1.2 is gonna release on the game ?

[reef basin]

when it's ready

[round ferry]

tks u it helps a lot

[ornate saffron]

completely unknown my guess fall

[cold berry]

So I decided that the restock splitter is a good idea to push more range out of my smelting room, but I am only going to make a new shipping area when the old one slows down. Then, if my computer starts to lag at any point, the plan is to stop where I am, delete the last little bit, make a shipping area for all of the shit I made, and send it to factory B

I've done a playthrough now where I unlocked everything in phase 1-4. Now I wanna beat 4, do phase 5 and "save the day"

[crude canyon]

man, this game is too addictive

[cold berry]

And also make mega factory(s) this run

If I can get away with one I will

[white dawn]

<nitpick>"Megafactory" means "all production in one place." :D If you have more than one then neither are actually megafactories, they might just be Big™. </nitpick>

[cold berry]

Oh no. I thought of an idea I liked more. Isolated power grid factory that does phase 1+2, only powered by coal. Then I make an outbound shipping, to move my output to a phase 3 megafactory that runs on oil. Finally, a phase 4 that runs on nuclear and oil trained-in from phase 3 (to start it up).

Okay, I'm going to rename my project. It's the "phase factory" project. Not megafactory. Because that sounds more fun to me now.

I should make each phase in a different biome. 😮

[reef basin]

fyi there's a wiki page for that as well now

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Megafactory

[neat plank]

40 hours in. Still building starter factory. XD.

[neat plank]

It's not a megafactory. It's just a sparkling warehouse.

[civic ore]

Is there a way to remove the slot for items you accidentally upload?

[fluid sapphire]

why tho

[civic ore]

I’m never gonna need this bacon agaric slot

[fluid sapphire]

its not like your slots are limited

[civic ore]

So now it’s just a useless item I have to scroll past

[fluid sapphire]

mark your favorites as favorites, otherwise use search?

[civic ore]

Nah but I don’t want it cluttered with useless stuff when I’m trying to find certain things

[fluid sapphire]

use search?

[civic ore]

Console my man ain’t nobody typing on it

[fluid sapphire]

how often do you need to manually grab stuff such that pinning doesnt solve this for you?

past a certain point you only need like a handful of items

[manic geode]

brand new, i assume i shouldnt build the hub right on top of iron core(s)?

[fluid sapphire]

nodes?

[civic ore]

Lowkey it don’t even matter you can move the hub as much as you want

[fluid sapphire]

nothing you build is necessarily permanent, dismantling gives you back all the resources

i was positively shook by that when i started out

[manic geode]

oh nice, all will fall is the only other game i've played where you dont lose resources when dismantling anything built

[fluid sapphire]

quite, its incredible QoL, game is packed with QoL stuff

[manic geode]

looking forward to it, i have like 10min total in the game so far lol

[fluid sapphire]

ahh, i have a certain nostalgia for the early game

almost 1300 hours on my save

still havent "finished" the game

you are in for a real treat

oh, it looks like so far my trucks are behaving relatively well for the most part, somewhat surprising

i am pumped for 1.2 though

trucks/carts galore

[ashen quest]

Wait what

1300 hours in one save and you didn't finished the game?

[fluid sapphire]

thats right

[ashen quest]

holy

[fluid sapphire]

just here for the ride, i keep busy, no hurry

occasionally build cool stuff

[manic geode]

Same, that’s how I play games too, why rush it all? lol

[wintry maple]

I finished my 1.0 playthrough at 192 hours. Didn't feel the drive to keep building past the end-game materials. I've been meaning to check out some challenge mods for a while. Recently started a Satisfactory Plus game. It is really interesting but not for the faint of heart.

[fluid sapphire]

i spent like 7 hours going over my whole rail network just making small pointless cosmetic adjustments and thats a repeat pattern for me

i am self motivated, very easy to create my own objectives, i dont need the game to provide them

[wintry maple]

Really excited to see that someone (shout-out sveini4u) made a GravityCheck mod. I've always wanted the extra challenge and immersion of needing to have everything reasonably supported.

[hard wolf]

I wonder what our ratios of getting stuff done to being OCD about design are?

[fluid sapphire]

my playtime probably says a lot about that

[white dawn]

Heh, my own tends to follow something of a bell curve. I don't put a lot of time into it in the early game 'cause I'm still lacking many Shop unlocks, peaks near midgame or so when factories are still fairly reasonable, and then begins to taper off once I realize just how long this playthrough's gonna last if I keep up this level of detail. :D

[fluid sapphire]

i build like garbage and i am still slow xd

[mortal ginkgo]

I wish it had some trailer or showcase. ı am curious how it works out

[heavy grove]

Bonsoir y a il des français svp

[fluid sapphire]

what

[manic geode]

nodes are unlimited right? i can spam as much resources i want? i like to build them up as i discover/unlock in these types of games

[fluid sapphire]

unlimited in the sense that a single node never runs out

[heavy grove]

Good evening, are there any French people here please

[fluid sapphire]

the number of nodes on a map is limited though of course

[heavy grove]

@fluid sapphire

[fluid sapphire]

i am yanking your chain, this is an english only server

[white dawn]

(this sounds like the setup for a baited rant against French people. :)

"Yeah, I'm French!" / "Suck on an egg, ya frog!" (makes rude British hand gestures)

-# (apologies to anyone French in here who just had to withstand such vitriol. :)

[west jackal]

Was trying to avoid spoilers. You dont need to move them with trucks is asll

[gleaming wasp]

Watch it, bub.

Cela ne se terminera pas bien pour vous si vous continuez à dire des choses aussi dégoûtantes contre les Français.

[heavy grove]

Merci car on peut dire pareille sur les anglais mais c pas le but

[gleaming wasp]

Je suis aussi au moitié anglais, mais j'aime faire chier les anglais

[heavy grove]

Tkt

[gleaming wasp]

Tu viens de la france ou un autre pays francophone?

[mortal ginkgo]

You guys gonna get bonked for going 100% french soon btw.

[gleaming wasp]

Oops sorry

[worn oar]

Oui oui je suis une baguette

[gleaming wasp]

Will stop that

[mortal ginkgo]

not that I mind, but English-only server so.

[gleaming wasp]

Yeah fair enough

[sterile blade]

Can't risk having someone openly plot a rebellion against Ficsit just because the mods don't know what they're saying

[gleaming wasp]

btw, is your discord account banner of an actual impure node?

are you sure it's an impure one?

[mortal ginkgo]

Shh.

[sterile blade]

It's actually a selfie

[gleaming wasp]

oh in that case i'm sorry

you're a very handsome node

[hard stump]

When setting up trains I’m struggling I know you can make trains but they have to be at the station to make them. How do I know what train is the one at the station? I’m so confused on setting up these routes

[violet glen]

You can build them anywhere

but not sure I understand the question

[vagrant mantle]

When do i unlock nuclear my capacity is like 4000 mhw below my max consumption 💔

[stuck canopy]

so i built 15 industrial buffer tanks for turbo fuel well as a buffer in case something goes wrong in production (even then it would be enough only for 37 minutes)

they were filing slowly so i disconected some of the generators, i though it would take couple hundred hours to fill them up

imagine how confuzed i got when i saw that crude oil import station was full and started tracing problem into those tanks being already full

[white dawn]

Phase 4 (tier 7+8)

[fluid sapphire]

why are you stockpiling it?

[hard stump]

My issue is when setting up a train route how tf do I know what train I’m setting the route for as I have a station and 9 trains yet idk what one is the one at the station I’m at as unless they are already set up it does not tell you its location. As I set one up realized it’s a train in a very different area

[violet glen]

jump into it and configure it

[white dawn]

You can give trains+stations custom names btw

[stuck canopy]

' buffer in case something goes wrong in production '

[white dawn]

Give them appropriate names as you're setting them up and there's basically no way to get them confused

[fluid sapphire]

that doesnt explain anything?

what could go wrong and how does that help fix it?

[white dawn]

As you're discovering, though, using Fluid Buffers to store things actually only makes your piping that much more complicated and difficult to understand. :) I'd recommend investing in Power Storage instead; that's kind of the main intended solution for "emergency power"

[hard stump]

Already done that but still again the station is independent of the train route.
As I said I set up a station out a train on it set the route up. But then realized the route I set up is for a diffent train not the one sitting at the station

[white dawn]

Those are quite easy to build out and if you go wild with it you could give yourself many hours of emergency time

[fluid sapphire]

thats where i was going with this, whatever the thought process behind storing fuel, power storages do this job easier and better

[white dawn]

I'm still not sure why you wouldn't just set the names+routes of your trains as you're building them.

Why are you building trains and then just leaving them out there doing nothing? :)

[stuck canopy]

i got both

[stuck canopy]

time to fix it

[fluid sapphire]

just fix it, what you need the buffers for?

[hard stump]

Every station has a name but I didn’t build the trains now I have and every time I set a route it’s for the wrong train

[white dawn]

There's also the Priority Power Switch, btw, which ensures that even if you do trip power somewhere, your power-generation machinery, at least can stay on. (And also anything else flagged as more vital). That's a MAM unlock

[stuck canopy]

i got them too

[white dawn]

1. Build Train
2. Click on train, give it a name.
3. Set that train's routes.

I'm not sure how you're confusing one train for another in that situation? Just configure it as soon as you build it

[sullen abyss]

Hi someone have good Manufacturer blueprint what is stackable? Im out of idea and i checked satisfactory calculator but i tried those and really not helped me out. (or any youtuber recommendation)

[stuck canopy]

all power generation hooked without them and everything else through switches and priority sorted

[violet glen]

You can also just literally enter the train and configure it

[hard stump]

You cannot click on a train and name it you have to use a station to name the train and as I said when I name the train it’s for a completely different train not the one at the station

I have 1 option board train or get out there is no button for make this train without a station

[white dawn]

Sure you can. Interacting with the train will get you to the menu that lets you name it

And if you're naming trains as you go, the only train with a "default" name will be the new one you just built

[hard stump]

As I said I have a single button I can hit on the train and that’s press X to get in train there’s no change name there is no menu option at all

[white dawn]

I feel like we've got a severe communication disconnect here, so I'm just gonna disengage. :)

[violet glen]

yes there is

It's in the configure menu on Q

[white dawn]

Name trains As You Go™ and you'll never have to wonder which train it is you're working on. Good luck!

[fluid sapphire]

you have to be in the train to get the menu

[worn oar]

Don't use trains and you'll never be confused by trains ;)

[fluid sapphire]

thats ridiculous, trains are awesome

[stuck canopy]

when you enter it press Q

[hard stump]

Q does not exist on a controller so what now? As well iv just looked it up and not a single article or video on how to click on. A train and make it other then use of a station for console

[violet glen]

Trains make later game so much easier

I'm sure the menu exists on console

[worn oar]

If by awesome you mean overrated and overused, I agree

[fluid sapphire]

whatever button is listed as "open train menu"

[violet glen]

Enter train, and then press whatever the HUD says to configure it

[stuck canopy]

should be same button as build meniu

[fluid sapphire]

pfft, what do you know about trains

[hard stump]

Menu does not exist unless at a station which is problem

[worn oar]

Nothing, that's why I hate them

[violet glen]

That menu exists everywhere

you just need to board the train

[fluid sapphire]

no, it does, enter the locomotive, check the list of options you see here

#screenshots message

"open train menu"

[hard stump]

Ok then exactly what button then cuz no one on Xbox has ever heard of this so what button?

[violet glen]

Whatever the HUD says to open the train menu

[fluid sapphire]

whatever button that is on the controller

it exists regardless

[white dawn]

I think that the console version isn't as good at displaying that kind of info on the HUD, btw. Might take some guessing and/or digging around in options

But yeah, it'd almost certainly be the same button that opens the build menu (whatever that may be)

[violet glen]

On PC it's Q, which is the build menu button

[fluid sapphire]

ah, maybe, i assumed they were the same, just different prompts

[hard stump]

I give up yall are hostess have a nice day

[white dawn]

Could try in #satisfactory-consoles as well, more likely to find folks who use controllers in there

[fluid sapphire]

do you see a different menu than i do? can you post a photo?

[white dawn]

-# were we called a Hostess Cupcake, perhaps? Lotta processed sugars and such, but tasty!

[fluid sapphire]

i shot a ping with a screenshot with my xbox controller plugged in while on a train

its Y

the menu looks the same

[white dawn]

Indeed! If only we weren't hostess. 😢

[violet glen]

Maybe accidentally hit the equivalent of T?

[coarse shadow]

Are 40 Motors/min for the first enough? Haven't even unlocked Phase 2 yet

[fluid sapphire]

if you are making motors, you are in phase 2 at least

[white dawn]

Just make whatever you want to do for your own personal Build Gun use, then whenever some other factory needs motors, make more right inside the new factory. :)

[fluid sapphire]

40 is a lot at that stage

my late game supply is 30

[white dawn]

Trying to guess how much of something you want in the future isn't worth the bother, IMO. You'll either build Too Little, in which case you need to build more anyway. Or you build Too Much -- so long as you had a good time, that's hardly a problem, but still. In nearly all cases you'll eventually want to build more anyway, so I always recommend the What You Need RIght Now, Then Build More Later™ strategy

That way your factories are always perfectly-sized. :P

[stuck canopy]

one machine at 100% active time is usualy enough

unless its conveyors ...

[idle yarrow]

any1 know when 1.2 is fully out

[ornate saffron]

DAte not released

[manic geode]

i just to the cutromize character..are we all girls? lol no hate

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[ornate saffron]

Yes, the Pioneer model is female

[violet glen]

hm, I'm conflicted about rocket fuel for jetpack. It burns up so fast. Liquid Biofuel seems much more useful

I guess It's nice if you need to go "up there" fast

[ornate saffron]

I generally dont care about height, I use the zip line. I like Rocket fuel for speed

also feather your fuel

[violet glen]

But it's only upward speed, not forward

or am I missing a technique? :D

[fluid sapphire]

plop down some boxes and produce a supply of ionized fuel

[violet glen]

I don't have access to that yet, never used it so far

[ornate saffron]

jump tap rocket, crouch to slide just as you slide jump and repeat

[fluid sapphire]

very easy to unlock if you already have rocket fuel

[violet glen]

It wants 100 power shards

I do have them, but kinda hurts :D

[fluid sapphire]

thats what, only 5 purple slugs worth of shards

[violet glen]

And does the fuel not need power shards as ingredient?

[unkempt blade]

wait! you need those slugs to make an awesome slug carousel around your hub!

[fluid sapphire]

it does

[violet glen]

hm, the infinite supply of those is in Tier 9, isn't it?

[fluid sapphire]

nvm, 10 purple slugs

[violet glen]

5 with sloops

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, overclocking everything is overrated anyway

[fluid sapphire]

well no, 5 you get by default, slooped gives you 10 per

thats still 10 slugs

its worth it though

excellent lift and burn time

[violet glen]

I'm more concerned about the constant slug burn to make the fuel

[brisk urchin]

funnily sloops are the only thing that makes overclocking useful

[fluid sapphire]

each shard nets you 8 ionized fuel, its a pretty generous ratio

actually, 16..

because you can sloop that

you can make a container full of ionized fuel, that will last you a long time

[fluid sapphire]

its double return regardless of clock speed though

but i suppose the compression is useful

[quartz cypress]

my closest crude oil node 2km away 😩

do i use trains or nah

[fluid sapphire]

what for

you dont need to bring it back

process on site

[quartz cypress]

wb the outputs

they still need to be transported to base

[fluid sapphire]

they dont, transport them where you need them, when you need them, expand your operation as necessary, ditch the idea of a singular "base"

the whole map is your base

[quartz cypress]

sounds kinda redundant but i see the vision

[fluid sapphire]

redundant how

[quartz cypress]

lots of small factories vs one big factory means repeating manufacturing of ingredients

[fluid sapphire]

you have to do that regardless

[worn oar]

Oh man, I hate handmaking reinforced iron plates

[fluid sapphire]

building by anticipating unknown future needs is impossible

[quartz cypress]

not really i have a bunch of iron, copper, and steel coming into my main base and just pull from those. with multiple small bases i basically need to do that process for each one, just smaller

economies of scale makes it a lil easier

[fluid sapphire]

that will only get you so far

eventually those lines will be spread so thin you wont be able to do that anymore

[quartz cypress]

then i find another node

[ornate saffron]

ya, that does not bring me joy

[fluid sapphire]

centralization of some products can work OK, but the stuff you build early game will scale poorly

[ornate saffron]

@fluid sapphire is right, The game is designed for you to spread out, if you want to hunker down and do it all in one place your welcome to but it will become very complex really quick

[fluid sapphire]

you have tools to make the job of repeated tasks easier, like blueprints

but repeating production lines is an inescapable reality of this game

[meager fern]

new challenge run. beat the game while building as few machines as possible

[ember escarp]

How many images should I put in my community highlight subreddit post?

[fluid sapphire]

all of them

[unkempt blade]

are we allowed to handcraft stuff or is that out too?

[ember escarp]

I thought their was a limit of 20 or something

[worn oar]

Believe it or not, straight to jail

[meager fern]

dont believe ryzors lies, handcrafting is allowed

[ornate saffron]

``youd have to read the rules of the subredit ^_^

[unkempt blade]

That sounds like a lot of work. I'll just have Claude read it for me

[quartz cypress]

i haven't made it that far ig

[unkempt blade]

that's ok, you're amazing and talented and I believe in your ability to spread out when you decide it's time to do so

[rigid mist]

i am an awesome shop shopaholic

[runic nacelle]

man Why do hypertube supports tilted all the way gotta be annoying lol

[ornate saffron]

Ive filled an entire bio just working on phase 4 stuff (there is 5 phases)

[ornate saffron]

we all are, i cant play with out that stuff

[unkempt blade]

when you run out of stuff to spend coupons on you should be sinking it all into boomboxes because the sound range is 💩

[ornate saffron]

Plus they kill them flies and luanch toxic alphas off cliffs

[night lotus]

How? What did you do?

My biggest factory took up max like 80% of long beach

Which is tiny

And it made everything needed to finish phase 4

[ornate saffron]

Lol,

Nuclear, Rocket fuel for drone network, Aluminum, ADS, MFG

[night lotus]

Oh well I have one that takes up all of blue crater but that was started in phase 2 and actually makes everything

[night lotus]

Ah I see

Which biome?

[ornate saffron]

swamp

[night lotus]

Oh

[ornate saffron]

most the nuclear is over the ocean there mind you

[fluid sapphire]

ah, the swamp is pretty small though?

[ornate saffron]

🤷

[night lotus]

Nah I’d say it’s pretty big

[fluid sapphire]

compared to some of the other biomes idk, kinda small

[sour citrus]

hey guys, I'm coming back to try the game again after finding it too complex the first time and I have a few questions, hopefully someone can help me.
1 - Should I have a dedicated factory for every item in the game? Right now I have steel plates, screws, concrete, cables and copper wire, just realized I need to make reinforced iron plates and smart plating. Do I need to make a new factory just for these or should I be linking the resources I already have to make these?
2 - If the above is true, should I be reserving part of my production in containers or something?

[night lotus]

What I do and what worked for me was making the final part like for stitched plates for me

And after that fills a container then you’ll have excess plates and wire

[ornate saffron]

about half so far i guess

#screenshots message

[hard wolf]

is the front of the conveyor lift smart splitter the orange part?

[fluid sapphire]

front? it has sides

[hard wolf]

for determining left and right

[fluid sapphire]

aah.. no idea, always trial and error for me

[night lotus]

Nuclear is entirely unnecessary btw

I just have I’m pretty sure it was 400? Fuel gens

[ornate saffron]

I'm aware, this will be my 8th game completetion ^_^ Appreciate the heads up tho

[simple pebble]

Nuclear is fun

[fluid sapphire]

ya'll right, i guess its actually pretty roomy, i just "waste" a lot of space
#screenshots message

[simple pebble]

driving myself insane piping unholy amounts of water > driving myself insane placing way too many generators

[ornate saffron]

eill get you a real screen but i got a lot of work to do still

[fluid sapphire]

not much going on there for me other than one small factory and a handful of train stations, just the spacing of stuff takes up a lot of room

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

you cookin huh

[ornate saffron]

trying

[night lotus]

Damn you play alone or multiplayer?

[ornate saffron]

alone

this is jsut phase 4 stuff really

[night lotus]

I don’t think I’d be able to get through 2 playthroughs 😭

[fluid sapphire]

me neither

i think i will stop once my save explodes

[ornate saffron]

some ppl drink and watch sports. I play satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

that could still be a few years off

i did it, i found the site for my next factory

they said it couldnt be done

[simple pebble]

So there's different approaches to this, but generally, linking resources is good as long as you're accumulating small amounts of excess of the base components

[sour citrus]

hm ok

[fluid sapphire]

extending existing lines will only get you so far

if you need plates and reinforced plates, its usually better for the reinforced plate factory to have its own supply of plates

[simple pebble]

Yeah. You can only make so much off of one set of nodes so you will need to expand to new places

[fluid sapphire]

just as a very basic example

for basic products its fine, but you will feel it more when products get more complex

[simple pebble]

Yeah, that's the thing

[fluid sapphire]

like your initial rods factory probably wont be able to support the motor factor you will build

[simple pebble]

With plates and rods, you don't need much production of the base stuff to stockpile, but later projects will need large numbers of (eg) reinforced plates. Then you will need dedicated factories but you can also expect to have more tools to help with that at that point

[ornate saffron]

I just build to need ( the pioneer is a factory too)

[sour citrus]

I do have 4 pure iron nodes

[small crypt]

is there a less annoying way to replace every belt in every blueprint

[fluid sapphire]

nope

[ebon marten]

Make blueprints for all belts so if you only need a specific mk belt you can just build the blueprint with that mk belt

[small crypt]

i mean i just use mk5 for everything, but i did back up my mk3 blueprints to my documents in case i ever start a new game in the future

[unborn moss]

After like mk3, I just use the fastest belt available on everything.

[chrome bear]

I'm looking to make large factories rather than small ones then expanding, with reinforced plates how many should I be making late game

[stable cloak]

Is it FICSIT compliant to stock up on parts and then hand feed Project Assembly machines?

[ornate saffron]

many ppl play this way

[stable cloak]

but does FICSIT approve?

[ornate saffron]

I cannot speak for fiction evil Corperations

[stable cloak]

fair enough

just gotta get 4000 caterium ingots and 100 nuclear pasta to finish phase 4

basically an additional 60,000 copper powder

[ornate saffron]

further along then I atm

[unborn moss]

I think it might be a little easier to automate it from the early game, then you can stock up on project parts before you need them to build the next phases project parts.

[stable cloak]

eh, I didn't have enough information to build factories like that. I did have a bunch of versatile framework but I sunk it like a fool because FICSIT doesn't let me see recipes for Project Assembly parts, arguably the most important products in the game

Factorio brain ig

[tropic juniper]

i need to get into satisfactory brain again for 1.2. i tried loading my save into it and hit a mental brick wall

[unborn moss]

That would be the difference between 1st and 2nd playthroughs then 😄

[quartz cypress]

that's why i always leave a todo list before logging off

[tropic juniper]

good call

[stable cloak]

agreed

[ornate saffron]

sdI cant come back to a save lol

I just play super hard for months

[worn oar]

It's multiples of 60 ore for a whole machine output unlike most stuff. so it's really convenient to build that from raw inside a bigger factory IMO.

[fluid sapphire]

sure is

i was making a broader point though

[ornate saffron]

to always sleep with Llama?

#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

Yes

[small crypt]

sorry but this is fucking rude lol #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

Naw easy choice

[small crypt]

its fine i got like maybe 6 recipes left in the pool anyway

but like damn

i thought littering the entire map with powerlines for hoverpak would be slower than jetpack but it's...kind of faster

no imaginary 1 degree incline ruining my slide jumps, no tapping space, no ladders for vertical

[ornate saffron]

Ziplines are goated

[dense violet]

why is it rude?

OC super computers are resource hogs

[small crypt]

theyre the only 2 alts i was going for at this point

[ornate saffron]

he wants to have his cake and eat it too. thats all

[dense violet]

diluted fuel should definitely be one of them

it's one of the most useful generalist recipe

[small crypt]

yeah for sure ive been putting off scaling up rocket fuel until i got it

[dense violet]

base super computer recipe is much cheaper, and you never need rf
nuclear is much better

[tropic juniper]

i zipline along tall power towers all the time. i love how they hang the wires that way you don't have to dodge it each pass

hoverpack i only pull out for constructing and otherwise use jet

[small crypt]

depends half mine are cockeyed so i gotta jump off at each one

but now i have a powerline network on like 75% of the map

[civic ore]

How do I bug report

I went in a little crack I thought was a hidden underground area but it was actually just a gap they forgot to fill and now I’m stuck underground

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[ornate saffron]

go to settiung and change death to keep everything. (you still get achievments) the hit respawn

[small crypt]

me when im more than 12 inches from my base

[brisk urchin]

If you beat the game there should be a NG+ where the world (mostly) resets except research and HDDs and you can apply the new modifiers.

[white dawn]

Sounds like Advanced Game Settings / Creative Mode. :)

[brisk urchin]

Ya advanced game setting - Import research 🤔 Should not disable achievements if you got it done legit.

[dense violet]

get the achievemnts the first time around

[cyan spade]

yes twin

[ornate saffron]

Alright! i got all Phase 4 parts but pasta time for bed

[latent prawn]

pasta is the fun one 😄

[small crypt]

anyone that cant figure out where the hell the cave entrance is for the 400,400 sphere it's at 590, 520, insanity

[hard wolf]

what's a good goal for a small HMF depot factory? I went for 10

[small crypt]

as many as you can get out of the nodes

[worn oar]

One machine TBH

[silver veldt]

whats a good goal for someone who just started

[worn oar]

The game has structured goals for you throughout the game until you finish, please just play it

Playing it blind is the most fun way

[hard wolf]

I worry about that leading to a "I'm out of chips but still have dip, time to open a new bag of chips." situation.

[small crypt]

dont open a new bag of chips

just get as much ore as you can out of the nodes then process it

99% of things ratio out evenly

[latent prawn]

target rates of 10/min for everything is probably a good general place to be for building materials

[small crypt]

some things are gonna be 10, some things are gonna be 80

[worn oar]

Yeah 10/min ballistic warp drives is a good start

[hard wolf]

make progress, and don't worry too much about aesthetics unless you feel like it

[silver veldt]

ok

[latent prawn]

for hmf's i err the larger side, shooting for 45/min with heavy encased frame. usually that's a biome-sucking sorta build

[hard wolf]

also: try to automate everything so you don't have to hand craft ever

also also: dimensional depots are your friend. definitely look for mercer spheres

[regal tiger]

I am having some trouble with trains. I f I am at Station A, and set it to travel to station B, it says station unreachable. But I can manually drive the train into station B. Any ideas on why this is happening?

[worn oar]

Flat side in, round side out

Your station is 99% facing the wrong way, check both of them

[regal tiger]

Dammit - I knew about that! Thank you!!

[silver veldt]

you guys are great

i appreciate it

[dense violet]

watching Kibitz use fluid buffers for gas is very painful

[hollow hemlock]

rule of cool

[dense violet]

stuttering messes are cool?

could just clip the pipes through the buffers

[hollow hemlock]

looks cool, we dont know it's a stuttering mess and if it is, whatever, not my build

[worn oar]

Me to the mirror when hyping myself up to give a speech:

[dense violet]

gasses + fluid buffers = stuttering mess

[hollow hemlock]

not necessarily

[dense violet]

there's like 1 very specific way you can set it up so that it doesn't, he doesn't do that

fluid buffers and gasses do not mix. It's why you package gas before putting it on a train.

[hollow hemlock]

I know it's fun to be absolutist, but that's just not true. You could just not run the consumption side at full rate shrug

[dense violet]

yeah sure, if you feed 900 into a system and aim to only use 300 you might be able to reliably consume 300 pm

but that's still a tuttering mess as you're trying to cram 900 into a 300 system

and that does not appear to be what he's doing in any case

so you're doing the devils advocate thing with absolutely no basis for your arguments

[hollow hemlock]

Maybe, but then go complain at him then. It still looks cool, I think that's the general point of most of his stuff

[dense violet]

I'm just pointing out that people should really not look at fluid design from an entertainer

and that that one video is an extremely good example of it

tons of people go 'I saw X person do this in their video but it doesn't work!'

[languid bone]

Heyo, so like super weird, but can someone inv me to their server and run me over with a vehicle? im trying to get an achievement lol

i tried standing in front of the train but it doesnt seem to work lol

[small crypt]

truck works

[tropic juniper]

put the vehicle on a route and then stand on the path

[languid bone]

ooohhhh thats super smart, ty!

[tropic juniper]

goodluck!

getting hit by a truck...

[languid bone]

i havent built the vehicles so i didnt even think to try it after the train didnt work

[languid bone]

haha thanks

[nimble vigil]

You did remember to drink ur coffee?

[languid bone]

I did, i just got that one yesterday :p I got the golden nut and am working on the last of the tickets for the cyber truck haha

[nimble vigil]

It's canadian design...

[languid bone]

bless thermal propulsion rockets and the amount of points they give you. ahhh.

[nimble vigil]

I bought most of my stuff sinking project parts

[small crypt]

i just put a sink on the end of every line

[scenic relic]

im very scared for what i mightve just burnt in the awesome sink

Why did my points go from 80k to 3MILLION per minute

[quaint goblet]

i never sink anything til ive run around the world to grab a bunch of turbo motors

[quaint goblet]

then i can sink em for like 80 tickets

[sage mango]

Whats the best map to build on that good for a player that only have 65 hours played i tryed grass fields but felt like there was to many obstacles

[quaint goblet]

it’s all the same map

[hollow hemlock]

theres only one map

[quaint goblet]

if you don’t like your area pick a direction and run in it

[sage mango]

Oh I did not know so it's different areas same map

[faint frost]

i think ive spent around 30 mins trying to bugfix this damn drone and the fuel

[dense violet]

and the starting areas are pretty similar

except norther forest that forces you to build vertically

and ahve nodes a bit closer

but still not that dif

[quaint goblet]

the caterium and sulfur in the forest are glorious

[quaint goblet]

even if the caterium requires a nobelisk to blow up

[sage mango]

I tryed grass fields what area should I try next

[hollow hemlock]

I like the desert myself

[next ivy]

the abyss

[cursive topaz]

Random question, does that hyper tube cannon trick still work

[faint frost]

yes

im also sad that 1.2 exper removed the infinite floorhole glitch

[opaque osprey]

Is there a way to mass delete stuff

Im deleting my biomass grid and its gonna take ages at this rate

[tropic juniper]

hold shift

[languid bone]

So, I've completed all the milestones, but I didnt recieve the milestone achievement... Is there something else you have to do after you launch it all into space and see the credits, in order to get the achievement? Im back at my hub and there's nothing else here for me to work on.

[opaque osprey]

Thanks

[dense violet]

scan through the tiers again?

[languid bone]

I did, they're all greyed out. and my launch pad thing says its launched and pioneer purpose concluded. I think its genuinely glitched

[dense violet]

1.2?

[languid bone]

i dont know what that means

[faint willow]

How do y'all do your steel refineries? Just belt iron and coal somewhat close together?

[dense violet]

are you in the experimental branch of the game?

[languid bone]

i had my own separate small base for steel and steel pipe and i tubed in its own coal and iron and then mass produced it

[faint willow]

Gotcha, I started in the grassy area and I can't find a spot for iron that isn't minimum like 800m+ away from coal

[languid bone]

Wahtever one is the default up-to-date one. I've never changed the settings, I'm not a techy person

[dense violet]

odd little bug I guess then

[languid bone]

oooh, I belted my coal a loooong distance lol. you'll wind up either belting your coal, or your steel accessories, so i suggest finding a nearly iron node or two and piping your coal to that

[dense violet]

the 2 coal nodes in grassy fields are right next to iron

[dense violet]

pingged you in screenshots

[languid bone]

in the end you'll want the majority of the stuff near your main base, otherwise you'll have to find a way to ship it there. there'll always be more than 1-2 recipies that need minor items like steel and steel pipe etc.

[faint willow]

What?! I swear I scanned down there before and didn't find those iron nodes

[dense violet]

I'd guess like 80% of coal nodes are very close to iron

[dense violet]

the game forces you to expand

[languid bone]

you';ll also need a LOT of coal later on for various things too, so having some coal transported near your main base is always a good idea

[dense violet]

eh, those 2 coal nodes in the south of the map will last you AGES

and you can use oil instead of coal for steel

[languid bone]

oh yea. i have a few small bases on the outskirts of my large main base though. i have 3 big bases. my map looks like a disaster lol

[cursive crane]

Little advice, hypertube systems connecting bases with cannons at the start and junctions as exits means you can almost entirely automate transport between bases.

Just label and jump in

Can also be achieved with solely cannons but make sure you bring jetpack fuel lol

[faint willow]

Damn it. Can't clear the big rocks with the nobelisk.

This is gonna be slightly annoying.

[fiery pewter]

What big rock

Is it cracked big rock?

Or not?

If not, it can't be destroyed

[faint willow]

In the grassy starting area, it's the really big angled jagged rocks next to the three normal iron nodes

[fiery pewter]

That doesn't narrow it down in the slightest

[faint willow]

Trying to get back over there so I can send a screenshot

[fiery pewter]

Please do

I see

Yeah they're not cracked, so you can't destroy them

[faint willow]

Damn

Worth a shot at least, just gotta build around em ig

[fiery pewter]

Best you can do is build over them yeah

[faint willow]

Got a similar problem with one in the very back along that wall

There's one jutting out just enough to where I can't extend that big building to have more than the one iron mine

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[faint willow]

Can the nobelisks prevent trees from regrowing?

Leaves sticking out of the wall is also a bit annoying

[worn oar]

Trees don't regrow unless changes are made to the map that result in them regrowing.

[faint willow]

Weird, I keep having this one tree regrow and I swear I've chainsawed it down twice outside my facility

[velvet sparrow]

Finally got around to downloading this game. Anyone have any major advice for beginners? 😄

[royal mortar]

#screenshots message

[hollow hemlock]

buckle up

[jolly solstice]

learning the game by trial and error is fun, you should learn the basics without using any external resources and once you feel like you need more advanced info you can start watching some such guides

if you want to have fun in your playthrough, refrain from using the interactive map website because it trivializes all of the exploration

[small crypt]

also dont build yourself into a corner, the endgame has an asinine amount of fuckass spam

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message
yes

dam aluminium factory is harder to build .

[small crypt]

nah

[twin parcel]

i can see why people use pure aluminium over default recipe.

[small crypt]

pure aluminum is terrible

silica is a single step process

and you get some anyway

[twin parcel]

uh i need insane insane amount of silica and even with cheap silica , i fear its not enough until i have unlocked mk3 miners

[small crypt]

you dont need insane amounts

[zenith pecan]

Depends how much bauxite you're processing.

[faint willow]

#screenshots message

Any recommendations?

[small crypt]

#screenshots message 2 baux nodes, 1 coal, 1 quartz

plenty for starter factory then get higher tier logistics and make a bigger one and overclock miners

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, not the same ball park as mine then 🤣 , fair enough.

[small crypt]

eventually youll just want to use all 6 nodes so just x3 it

[twin parcel]

oh , i used electrode scrap recipe , which gave me more scraps , which also means more means more silica ,

1000 silica/min for 600bauxite/min is insane mate .

[small crypt]

that just needlessly complicates it, and you're just trading coal for oil

[twin parcel]

i have plenty of oil , so its not a problem

[zenith pecan]

For a starter factory that you'll replace the coke is less ideal, mine does use coke though as it is the permanent facility.

[supple canopy]

not that insane. If you were to process ALL the bauxite into aluminum, using cheap silica you'd need about 65% of all raw quartz into silica

[small crypt]

no? a 1 mk3 miner can pull out 2,000 silica a minute

[twin parcel]

dafuq ? i thought the highest belt speed 1200/min

[supple canopy]

there is PLENTY ressources in the game for a first playthrough. But then to each their own, if you don't like to use silica, use pure aluminum. My point above is still true: plenty of ressources so you're not missing out by skipping silica 🙂

[supple canopy]

they mean 1200 raw quartz => 2000 silica

[zenith pecan]

Mine uses sloppy>electrode>pure, 12300 bauxite in, 12300 ingots out.

[small crypt]

constructor manifold

[twin parcel]

so i just have to build multiple outpost to get raw quartz and limestone for cheap silica .

[small crypt]

aluminum was my first map-wide belt highway

sane people would use trains

[zenith pecan]

I tend to use belts running through my tunnel network.

[odd quarry]

Did anyone else experience a sudden slow mouse scrolling when scrolling ingame menus?

[small crypt]

i havent really run into anything complicated or difficult yet, most things divide nicely, some alt recipes are downright atrocious

i think a lot of people tend to get themselves into overcomplicated situations because they worry too much about resource efficiency in a game with infinite resources, but there are alts that solve some of the more egregious offenders that would otherwise require multi belt shenanigans

[zenith pecan]

I just overbuild and some entire resources get consumed.

[timid rune]

oops, not enough reawakened SAM

[feral vector]

lol yeah I just did this to myself, should have used steel rotors alt instead of using normal rotors with steel screws and steel rods. less complicated, less janky numbers, barely uses more iron which is practically unlimited

[dapper cave]

Comin back to this game. DIdnt get super far before but its kinda crazy how well the muscle memory has stuck

[feral vector]

at least it wasn't some huge factory I made lol just one manufacturer worth of turbo motors. and probably a couple of hard drives I regret taking but oh well you can get them all

[feral vector]

if I quit for a month and tried to load this save I would be soooo lost ahaha

[timid rune]

Iron Pipe alt + steel rotor alt = a lot of iron but very simple

[hard wolf]

copper rotors? something something building an entire floor dedicated to screws (it was actually a bunch of stacked constructors so that technically doesn't count but I understand the sentiment regardless)

[feral vector]

I feel like the only reason I know what's going on is because I spend so much time there, it's like when my room is dirty but I know where stuff is

[dapper cave]

Well I shouldve said the memory of what to do lol. I had all of my essentials up and running wayyyy faster even after the break. Its fun

[feral vector]

yeah that sounds fun

[timid rune]

I actually have a blueprint for normal rotors

but it isn't very space efficent

[full cairn]

Could I get help with some rail signaling? Im literally copying the pattern that is working elsewhere and this one isnt working.

[feral vector]

I mean I don't mind using foundries that much but yeah iron pipe would make it even easier

[hard wolf]

also I'm experiencing the hoverpack for the first time and it's amazing

[feral vector]

I love that thing, it's so nice to set stuff up from above

[timid rune]

you should see one of my setup at some point haha

basically fed from pure iron refineries

[feral vector]

my only complaint is that you don't stop right away, so sometimes I keep my momentum and then place something in the wrong spot

[feral vector]

I'm sure I'll try that eventually, I just have lots of coal near my starter base that I'm not using, those two pure nodes go a long way for basic steel stuff

[hard wolf]

what's the error message? also I've found that as long as I block off the stations first I don't run into issues. also, if you have a large section of track that isn't being used, one of (I haven't messed with x-junctions yet) your signals is probably going to error out.

[feral vector]

I haven't even tried to learn signals lol I just have one track that goes from the east of my starter factory to my oil factory, then one that goes from the north of my starter factory to my aluminum factory

[hard wolf]

I just ran a dual rail loop around the whole map and am only using like a quarter of it

[small crypt]

hopefully this second 900 plastic 900 rubber factory will be the last one i need

[full cairn]

saying block has no exit on the signals themselves

[hard wolf]

are your stations blocked off?

[timid rune]

luckily pure iron is really for minmaxing

[full cairn]

each has a block

[timid rune]

Pure Copper However.... lol

[gleaming wasp]

say i have to move ~1250 (±250) m³ of water per minute. would trains be an effective strategy to move such a volume?

[hard wolf]

at the start of the station, the end, and where the station rails merge together if you're running multiple in parallel?

I usually add a block to the entrance of the station as well, just in case

[feral vector]

Yeah I have pure copper alt I should probably take that after realizing how much copper powder I'm gonna need

[hard wolf]

screenshots might help

[timid rune]

I am/was doing a 30 warped drive/min build

[feral vector]

You should basically never move water, build near the water and move the other stuff

[full cairn]

I have a dual rail setup for most of my world. My train stations are designed to be pulled in and then reversed out of

[timid rune]

and yeah copper powder is fun

I almost had the thought of slooping copper powder

[full cairn]

where to post a Screen shot?

[feral vector]

Hmm I just set up a little loop for mine so the train can go through and turn around

[hard wolf]

#screenshots

[full cairn]

ah right!

[gleaming wasp]

how come?

because fluid mechanics suck?

[timid rune]

loop is probably more efficent now that I have thought about it

[hard wolf]

I decided to go with dual rail from the start and it's prevented a lot of issues

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with images of the blocks , use photomode

[timid rune]

probably what I am doing next save

[feral vector]

Yep lol. And water is everywhere, not hard to find water next to other stuff that you need

[dense violet]

screen shot channel is shit for trouble shooting because you can't talk ther e

[full cairn]

it works fairly well elsewhere, I even have a bit loop de loop

ah makes sense

[gleaming wasp]

the factory i'm envisioning is absolutely massive, i don't think i'll be able to fit it on a beach

[keen finch]

Anyone know how to delete a factory that’s completely unoptimized cause leaving it would crash my game cause it’s too big? Is the only option spending an hour deleting it with the tool? Maybe I can explode it somehow

[hard wolf]

@full cairn I think your issue it that your in rails and out rails are crossing over each other. you might be able to fix that with block signals

[full cairn]

I have other spots that do that and work though, which is why this is confusing me

I'll take some pics and make a thread

[feral vector]

There's gotta be somewhere you could build it near water hmm

[gleaming wasp]

bombs don't destroy player-made buildings

sorry bro, you just have to go on there with the build gun and delete everything

[keen finch]

maybe Nuke

[timid rune]

satisfactory tool is probably the option

[keen finch]

Damnit okay worth an ask

[hard wolf]

@full cairn when I say "in parallel," I mean like this#screenshots message

[keen finch]

Thank yall

[gleaming wasp]

if it is THAT bad, i'd consider making a new save

[gilded roost]

80 hours in to my new world, will post tomorrow.

[timid rune]

SCIM is the other way out

[full cairn]

hmm those have actual exits

[gleaming wasp]

that's what i did when i realised all of my factories were incredibly unoptimised

[hard wolf]

if you're willing to install one mod, there's one that adds deconstruction nobelisks

[keen finch]

I’ll take it

[hard wolf]

I'm personally not modding until I've completed the game

though I almost installed infinite zoop

[keen finch]

I don’t like modding games until I’ve mastered them either but

[robust wigeon]

If it's made of blueprints, you can switch your deconstruct mode to destroy those, but otherwise no, you'll have to deconstruct manually.

You can hold ctrl to select multiple targets for deconstruction at once, up to 50 things at a time.

There is a mod that allows you to uncap the deconstruct limit of 50 objects, but doing so may crash your game if it tries to run the deconstruct animation for four thousands objects simultaneously, so use it at your own risk.

[timid rune]

you can use SCIM to mass delete things

[keen finch]

What is that

[robust wigeon]

true, i guess

[feral vector]

I have a mod that marks ore nodes on the map when I walk up to them cause I got sick of manually doing it, and one that removes stuff from the depot list if there are 0 of an item in there, that's it

[keen finch]

Could use radar

[hard wolf]

a minimap would be so sick x.x

[keen finch]

Or radio tower it’s called I think

[feral vector]

I will eventually the mod is nice for now

[robust wigeon]

it's an online satisfactory tool, you upload your save to SCIM and it will let you edit stuff and see maps of your buildings and whatnot

[feral vector]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

upload your save here

[keen finch]

Does that void achievements

[robust wigeon]

not sure

probably not though

[keen finch]

Eh worth a shot I’ll make a backup

[robust wigeon]

yeah

[feral vector]

nah you can save edit and use cheat mods and it doesn't mess with achievements

[keen finch]

Ty again

[feral vector]

hope it works out

[keen finch]

Me too 🔥

[opaque osprey]

Is it better to over and underclock to specific ratios or use balancers in factories?

[small crypt]

use manifolds, underclock to your needs

[opaque osprey]

Alright so under and overclock as needed?

I already use manifolds to make scalable factories

[small crypt]

yeah i like to build more machines and underclock theyre free

[timid rune]

depends on situation really

if you have an aim and you don't want to expand the factory in the future balancer is fine

[opaque osprey]

Ohhh I usually plan out my factories thoroughly first

[dapper cave]

completely unintentional but ive actually made the perfect setup with my different materials being mined and a space elevator in the middle of them all lol

looks nice

[timid rune]

some situations calls for a balancer

[opaque osprey]

Im noticing using under and overclocking would mean overclocking miners instead of balancing and just using a clean 240

[feral vector]

I mean overclocking miners is pretty standard

[opaque osprey]

Its an annoyin g number to work with and when I try scale its gonna be difficult

Seeing more then 1 odd number hurts my soul

[feral vector]

you can just 200% and get 480 that's still a nice number

[small crypt]

Yes, I always do this, gotta know how much space youre using

[feral vector]

lol I just build a giant foundation and yolo it

I plan them in satisfactory tools but I have no idea how much space they will take up

[opaque osprey]

Plus planning for scalability

[feral vector]

scaling factories is overrated in this game 😛

[opaque osprey]

I didnt do this with my rotors and reinforced iron plate factory which means I have to rebuild them

[feral vector]

send those into storage / sink and build rotors in whatever factory you need them in

if you need more rotors you don't need a giant rotor factory you can just build rotors in the middle of your production line for the item that needs it

[opaque osprey]

Im gonna do a modular factories which im building one now but at this rate I wont be able to since I dont have enouigh base resources

[small crypt]

Yeah I always follow the same rules when building and they all allow for scale and tiling infinitely if needed #screenshots message

[opaque osprey]

Its important to keeps thing consistent

[reef basin]

I wouldn't bother with scaling, you can always just build new. I'd rather clock to match ratios to make logistics easier 🙂

[opaque osprey]

I alreadyh have myh rules for distances, lengths directionss etc..

[opaque osprey]

Im also getting mk2 miners soon

[reef basin]

well, there's no situation that requires balancers. But they are indeed one of options in many cases

[opaque osprey]

I hate working with pipes and I dont wanna have to expand my grid already

[reef basin]

you can always upgrade miner and split after miner to use the excess, rather than trying to modify existing factory

[feral vector]

in phase 4 it starts to make more sense building parts one place and shipping them somewhere else to complete the final product but before that you can just build factories with local resources (except rubber and plastic I guess)

[opaque osprey]

My gameplan is basic stuff buiild modularly ship stujff around to complete space elevator

Outpost factories feel cool

Next run im gonna do mega factories

[feral vector]

that's a good reason to do it that way then

[opaque osprey]

Im tempted to just make one mega factory though

Seeing the factory grow out like a cancer

My inner enviromentalist demands it

[dapper cave]

It may look like chaos and the emissions may be worse than atomic bomb fallouts, but it functions. Thats whats important

[opaque osprey]

If the puppies and kittens are safe and happy then alls good

[feral vector]

I just hid all the chaos on the first floor and then a logistics floor under my second floor, the second floor is actually relatively organized

[dapper cave]

im not even to the space elevator yet. Im enjoying the simplicity for rn

[feral vector]

when I go to the first floor I just laugh at how stupid my belting is XD

[feral vector]

starting a new save is so chill

[dapper cave]

i had one save before but I didnt get far. I think I made the space elevator and then resident evil 9 came out lol

[feral vector]

I did it for a couple hours one day when I was too tired to think about planning stuff in my main save it was nice to progress real fast again too

[dapper cave]

whats nice about playing with a controller on this game is that I can actually tab out and processes arent interrupted lol. I can even move in game while im looking at another tab which isnt something ive seen in a game before

[opaque osprey]

Also is usiong satisfactory calculators cheating?

It feels so muchj like cheating

[dapper cave]

it is a single player game.

[leaden turret]

depends on how you're using it

[full cairn]

Finally got Fused modular frames automated

[feral vector]

doesn't feel like cheating to me, I could just do most of the calcs in excel

I guess when you toss a ton of stuff in there and it optimizes which alt recipes to use is beyond what I can do in excel but I learned my lesson about trying to be efficient anyways 😛

[reef basin]

fyi, "megafactory" means "all produciton in a single place", so "megafactories" is impossible as you can't have more than one by definition 😛

[reef basin]

is using a calculator cheating when you want to know what is 2+2? Or 138*541?

[opaque osprey]

Im getting used to my new keyuboard its sensitivity is insane - slight click and it goes off

[opaque osprey]

I have asian parents so yeah

[timid rune]

Finally had to increase my UObject Limit beyond 2162688 in this save haha

[stuck canopy]

is there anything in bettwen? a big as factory that prodocues a variety of items?

[timid rune]

otherwise every so often my game would crash

[reef basin]

yeah, "big factory" 🙂

[timid rune]

you can have a hybrid of mega and outpost

my nuclear power plant is almost a megafactory in itself

[reef basin]

but "megafactory" is name of the playstyle where you have one centralised factory only 🙂

[timid rune]

since I almost centralise my uranium + plutonium and ficsonium processing

[reef basin]

I mean fair, but that's basically what the calculators do - they do math for you and leave you to design the factory. Some people prefer to not spend time on calculations, and speaking as author of one of those tools, some of the calculations are so complex, that I would indeed not want to do them by hand 🙂 would take me weeks and the tool does it in 0.2 seconds 😄

[stuck canopy]

0.2 seconds? i need to time mine on SCIM :D

[feral vector]

yeah I genuinely don't know how you even have it doing some of the calcs it does, there are so many factors

[small crypt]

Tbh I find i barely use any alt recipes for major stuff. I use like...the 3 i need to never use screws, recycled plastic and rubber, then the fuel ones thats pretty much it.

[reef basin]

yeah, SCIM isn't ideal for that (and many more) reasons 🙂

[small crypt]

I went down an alt recipe rabbit hole when looking at super computers only to use the default for most of it

[timid rune]

my go to alts:
pure copper + pure iron (debatable) + pure caterium
encased pipe + heavy encased frame
HOR + Dilute Fuel + Recycled Plastic/Rubber
Fused Quickwire + Caterium Circuit Boards + Caterium Computer
Turbofuel Diamonds
etc etc

solid steel and cast steel plates as well

[small crypt]

What do you like about encased pipes? Ive seen people talk about it but it seems worse in all possible ways

[timid rune]

and wet concrete as well!

[reef basin]

it's linear optimalisation, basically you make giant matrix of all the recipes and resources (afaik it's like 350x250 matrix) and then solve it against the optimisation function... fun stuff, took me like 2 months to learn it and use it "properly" 🙂 but definitely not fun™ to calculate by hand

[feral vector]

I'm a very medoicre coder, I think that would take me two years to learn 😛

[small crypt]

As far as the computers and circuit boards go they all seemed same ish just shifting the processes to a different material

[feral vector]

not sure how I would even figure out what to learn to make a calculator that complicated lol

[timid rune]

Basically Steel (or iron) + Concrete = 3 of your heavy encased frame inputs

[normal orbit]

less steel used

[obsidian zodiac]

heyo, submit a ticket if you havent already! we'll figure something out

[small crypt]

Give everything a weight, grid search, return the lowest weight

[opaque osprey]

How do I change hotbars

[drowsy nimbus]

Sure! In questions and help?

[timid rune]

iron wire and stitched iron plates are one of my favs as well

[opaque osprey]

I cant find it in controls

[obsidian zodiac]

#open-a-ticket

[small crypt]

Stitched iron plates, steel rotors, and the heavy frame one are my favorites

[feral vector]

yeah I used this combo its super nice. I really should have gone with steel rotor instead of using steel screws and steel rods to try to be efficient

I mean it wasn't that much more work but making rotors and stators out of the same stuff is so chill

[small crypt]

For me it was never about materials used but "what can fit on belt"

Thats why I dont like quickwire or screws

[feral vector]

neither of those recipes made any difference as far as belts go I just needed enough for one manufacturer worth of turbo motors for now

[timid rune]

I like fused quickwire + caterium circuit boards + caterium computers because I can spit out 115.5 computers /min from a single normal copper and caterium node lol

just enough for both my nuclear power plant and warped drive build

[small crypt]

What i got really annoyed with was making a bunch of factories, getting to the next phase, then having to make all the same factories again, with 1 thing on the end, then next phase, then making ALL THE SAME FACTORIES AGAIN

Pmo

[feral vector]

hmm I gotta get caterium computers, caterium circuit boards is nice to save on plastic

[small crypt]

0/10 would not play again

[normal orbit]

you can for the most part get around belt capacity with just makign more belts

just miner output thats the biggest hurdle

[small crypt]

Making computers in 4 different factories was not slay

[stuck canopy]

ya its 18 seconds :D tbh im asking it produce 20 different items

i couldnt write anything better nor im looking for anything else as i like this interface, if i see a BS chain of production (like making plastic from resin but using heavy oil recipe just to make rubber from it) i just do it in game

[small crypt]

Got so burnt out making the same factory a morbillion times every time I needed a higher tier item I ended up hand feeding most of the stuff for the last phase, now im just waiting for the last warp drives to get spit into the space elevator

[stuck canopy]

heard of manifolds? just slap more machines

[normal orbit]

one suggestion would be to not look at belt capacity as the limiting factor but the materials. Some alt recipes can greatly increase yield from materials used. Like encased pipes for example.

[small crypt]

Materials are infinite

[normal orbit]

yes, but you can maybe get by with one factory instead of four if you fully utilize the materials you have

[small crypt]

Maybe. But then youre splicing your stuff every time you have a new thing, and gotta keep track of how much youre sending where and how much is left and how much you need to keep etc. Interdependence is a trap that can get worse until it bricks you

[stuck canopy]

smart spliters?

[normal orbit]

say you got 600 iron and 600 coal and wanna make encased industrial beams. normal recipes that would give you 50 eib/min. but use some alts, like solid steel, molded pipes, encased pipes you can get three times, 150 EIB/min

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message took this screenshot of my very first fused modular frame output, I remember the feeling

[full cairn]

nice catch!

[stuck canopy]

my example would be heavy turbo fuel recipe, saves you on machines and crude at the cost of some coal and sulfur

[small crypt]

Oh!

Nitro rocket fuel i loved that one

[stuck canopy]

its pain in the ass when you unlock something AFTER you build factory but ehh

i have wiped my map couple times on same save just so i could rebuild and wouldnt need to deconstruc everything manualy

new recipes, new machines make same factories more space and material efficient

if you got power established you can overclock to save space or atleast dont have that 0.4 assembler

[stuck canopy]

u got mods? SMART mod really helps with building

[small crypt]

I have blueprints for everything, I tried smart but I already had all my blueprints set up so it was easier to just use them. its still exhausting somewhere around late phase 3 or 4 whenever you gotta make 3 different factories and each one requires a full capacity computer setup

[stuck canopy]

i tried using blueprints but smart still seems faster

[dapper cave]

Space elevator is done. Time for a shower...after I make the MAM

[small crypt]

#screenshots message

[small crypt]

@stuck canopy Yeah see smart can only handle 1 in 1 out, anything else it just broke

and all that fussing around with powerlines and everything is already done in blueprints

[stuck canopy]

you didnt notice didnt you?

first one extented everything with the machine

[balmy nimbus]

When building trains do I need to make divide the "main" road/track in blocks multiple times along it?

[stuck canopy]

it helps

[stuck canopy]

first 10 seconds of my clip i copied that one machine 20 times

[balmy nimbus]

It doesn't just make it "messy" but how would that work than?

[stuck canopy]

second half is just how can it be done when it refuzes to work lol

[small crypt]

first 10 seconds of my clip i put down 48 constructors with all powerlines and IO done

and smart can only do single in/out constructor lines, which are just bad in general

i did like it for foundations

[stuck canopy]

okey ... give me a sec

[small crypt]

but ultimately wasnt enough to keep using it

[stuck canopy]

hmm nice whatever i built with smart is considered blueprint so its easy to deconstruct, didnt know that

not 8 constructors but whole 20 with everything around them gone in one action

[reef basin]

well, you can ofc use whatever you want, just know that SCIM cannot display many of the "often-used" setups for mid-late game due to them having loops and/or byproducts, neither of which SCIM handles well.

SFTools (https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/) can do that and optimise your production as well if you want to try them (but again, depends on you)

[sterile blade]

It helps speed up traffic, as you can fit more trains in the same piece of rail thus allowing them to wait less often for blocks to clear

[small crypt]

well, regardless, even though it was fast an easy to build, building a factory for everything, then the next phase having to build everything again because they needed to be slotted into a higher tier factory, but you still need to keep the parts from before so you can't siphon off, then the next tier building not only the first step again, but also the second step to feed the third step because yep you still need to keep step 2 for its own thing, so now you're building the same factory 3 different times for every single little thing, and i only mention computers because it was the worst one and i built it 4 damn times. and i couldnt really scale up my old ones and create dependency chains because they were maxed out for their own thing

actually iirc 3 of the computers setups were in the same phase

and maybe it would have been slightly less exhausting if i didnt insist on using a logistics subfloor but i cant really quantify how much of a difference that would have made if any

I liked midgame, somewhere around the dopamine hit of getting all my mk2 blueprints set up

[onyx granite]

Smart regularly bugged for me, stopped using it and I prefer it a lot

[simple pebble]

No matter how much I plan I always need more computers

[stuck canopy]

it works with every machine, just did it with manufacturers but laptop strugles to record it (too much fancy holograms)

now that i look at it its pretty much the same as using blueprints

just that smart creates them for you out of machines that you just placed

which you can place with a blueprint

[small crypt]

yeah, i mean scale isnt really an issue to be honest, that part of building was never that bad. building a 50 machine factory was the same effort as building a 10 machine factory, or 200

[stuck canopy]

saw this dude on YT who works in boeing and yea he had same issue - he made blueprints that make items not machines

[small crypt]

It's the logistics on the ends of each line that really takes the time and energy

[stuck canopy]

rotors and stators go in motors come out

[small crypt]

I thought of doing that

cause then it saves at least a step or two

[timid rune]

I have generic building blueprints though

[stuck canopy]

i might do something similar for every item just not sure what item per min to aim for

[timid rune]

basically you want too determine how many final products per min you want

[stuck canopy]

well im stuck with smart mod as it got even better after i discovered this

[timid rune]

say you want 50.4/min uranium fuel rods, 12.6/min plutonium fuel rods and 63/min ficsonium fuel rods

[reef basin]

if you don't know how much you want, then you should determine that first 🙂

[timid rune]

then you work backwards hah

[reef basin]

(working backwards isn't always possible or easy, but yeah)

[small crypt]

for supercomputers i did 8/min because it was mk5 belts and one part needed 720 quickwire/min

also i didnt want to build a third 900 plastic 900 rubber factory that shit was annoying

[simple pebble]

Yeah tell me about it

[timid rune]

sometimes I optimised based on what node is available from the location I want to be lol

[simple pebble]

That's the part that always caps me on computers

[stuck canopy]

plastic and rubber for computer or super?

[small crypt]

both

[stuck canopy]

well i got news for you

[stuck canopy]

with caterium computer and electroce circuit board you only need rubber, i though i had a oil free solution

[timid rune]

crystal computer?

[simple pebble]

Yeah it's not too hard to cut plastic out entirely

[timid rune]

#screenshots message my attempt with a supercomputer build when I limited myself to a 450/min oil input

[small crypt]

every alternative to plastic is just worse

mine was...

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

worse how? 🤔

[timid rune]

(well I am using pures so mileage may vary!)

[small crypt]

more annoying

i would have used pures but never ran into a situation that needed it

everything ended up neatly under 720 usually

[timid rune]

#screenshots message
My stupid Computer build from 1 normal copper + 1 normal caterium + 1 pure oil node

[small crypt]

1600 quickwire 😵

omgsh 1980

i didnt see that the first time

[timid rune]

fused quickwire is excellent

[fluid sapphire]

Fused quickwire makes it so easy

[timid rune]

copper is relatively more abundant than caterium

[small crypt]

fused quickwire doesnt prevent me from having to do multi belt bullshit

[timid rune]

which isn't too bad because you can just adjust your machine outputs

[fluid sapphire]

If you're not doing multi belt bullshit how are you doing anything at scale

[timid rune]

and overclock/underclock as necessary

[small crypt]

what scale?

8 supercomputers per minute was plenty

[simple pebble]

Yeah the logistics cost of fused quickwire is real

It's way easier to pump basic quickwire into machines in siloed lines where you don't overfill belts

And it's not that hard to do so with quickwire but it's definitely a headache

[reef basin]

I guess that's very subjective 🙂

[small crypt]

yeah when i did mine i tried to shoot for 1 node of each, and nothing over 720/min

[timid rune]

The SE crater has basically all you need for that build

[small crypt]

so i didnt need fused

[fluid sapphire]

It's just limiting 🤷

[round crater]

are mods availabe in 1.2 now?.. im flying

[reef basin]

see modding discord for info about that

[small crypt]

#screenshots message

Here is a caterium computer solution using fused quickwire, it made copper go over 1 node so I changed it to pure

so that could have been an option, splitting hairs though

well actually

[round crater]

yes/no was let to type

[small crypt]

no, yeah

[timid rune]

actually quickwire cable might be cool for that supercomputer build

[stuck canopy]

yea im switching to whatever from scim ... its inconsistent as hell, i litterally copy pasted url from yesterday and it gives a whole different setup

[fluid sapphire]

yikes, i just checked memory usage when i load my save, looks like my save might explode sooner than i thought, already hitting 18GB

[stuck canopy]

ahh i had used this already, got back to scim because of how it loads recipes from save

[small crypt]

Now that I'm looking at it, making a stupid simple battery factory, using caterium computers, and silicon circuit boards is INSANELY good

i didnt even give super state computer alt a second glance before but looking back at it now it's cracked

[reef basin]

I mean you can just select the recipes once and then clone that tab 🙂

[small crypt]

clone tab is goated

[stuck canopy]

ya doing that right now

[simple pebble]

Silicon boards are fun

And yeah super state is good

[cursive topaz]

Guys why does completing phase two feel like hell

[cold berry]

Oh man. You're in for it. (Says me, Guy who hasn't successfully completed 4 yet)

[simple pebble]

Coal plants are not impressive, steel beams take a frightening amount of steel and all the good stuff in phase 2 comes at the end

But man when you hit phase 3, it's liberating

[cursive topaz]

It’s just the amount of constructors and doing things in the right order cus why do I need a thousand steel truss beam things

That need an ungodly amount of reinforcements steel cube thingies

[cold berry]

Steel beams are indeed intense. I found that 6 foundries are enough for phase 2, though. Phase 3+4, however.

I love phase 3+4. I'm there right now, set up the input for my phase 1-4 factory in the plains. Going to coal power it, then make a phase 5+6 base in the forest. I'm on random nodes, so I'll be pumping a few nodes of oil to one central location. Then I'll make phase 7+8 in the Rocky desert, and phase 9 in the sandy desert. That's my plan for my first save the day.

I have like 400 hours and I'm just now going to beat it in another like 300 lol

(I'm a slow aesthetic builder but I've been learning the ropes so my worlds have been a mess)

[cursive topaz]

Dang

I’m at like 20 play time 33 with afk

[cold berry]

This game has taken over my life

[small crypt]

@timid rune with no pures even, if i could go back i'd probably do this alt #screenshots message

[cursive topaz]

And I have a good steel plant going I need to tear down and rebuild from the ground up, cus my base is a mess

[silver stream]

I am a princiapiant, i start the game last week

[cold berry]

But I'll beat it this time. My plan is beat phase, beautify factory, create output trains for the harder parts I make in phase 1-4, sink line/DD setups for everything, then move onto next factory/biome.

[cursive topaz]

Just before i logged off I created a creative save just so I could play with hyper tube cannons

[silver stream]

How i create a creative word?

[cursive topaz]

Google it

[silver stream]

Thancks....

[small crypt]

8 supercomputers/minute without using more than mk2 miners at 150% without even using pures thats...man why did i ignore batteries so hard

[fluid sapphire]

batteries?

[small crypt]

yeah for supercomputers

its actually so good

[fluid sapphire]

ah, sure, havent considered that alt myself

maybe when its time to make more

i have like 2k aluminum to spare, might be worth to put some of that into those

[cursive topaz]

There is aluminum now?

[fluid sapphire]

has been for a long time

[cursive topaz]

What phase

[fluid sapphire]

4

[cursive topaz]

Crap thats a ways ways away

[gilded roost]

THE CITY MUST GROW https://imgur.com/gallery/city-must-grow-a3kz6Mf

[exotic frigate]

Im combining the output of every bauxite deposit into one factory and making tons upon tons of aluminum parts

[small crypt]

i think thats generally the play

like most things are satellite but aluminum seemed like it was almost intended to be done that way

[fluid sapphire]

not necessarily but its nice to get it out of the way

[gilded roost]

Endgame I plan on having production solely in the mega base. 6 trains with 12 freight cars each.

[simple pebble]

I need to do that one of these runs

[fluid sapphire]

cue "megabase" nitpick

[gilded roost]

working on blueprints for stackable manifolds rn. gotta do so many but once it's done for each building it rocks

[small crypt]

i mean i can kind of see the appeal, you just pick the most efficient alt for every single possible thing, and you only have to make 1 factory for each item, then just keep track of how many of each are going where

whereas independent factories are easier to manage, and more time efficient, but its really easy to get burned out doing the same thing over and over again

[fluid sapphire]

does not scale well unless you do it while already in the end game

[small crypt]

yea

theres a lot of things that dont come til like the very end

thats why i didnt do nuclear power i just didnt see the point

[fluid sapphire]

thats just a fun side project

[gilded roost]

Each 16x16 factory grid square has only. truck stops for in and outs. Trains drop off raws at the depot.

[civic ore]

What do you guys actually use sumersloops for? I never want to use them for machines due to how rare they are, I only really use them while making new power cores or filling a new manifold up quickly

[fluid sapphire]

late phase4 parts/ elevator parts

rocket fuel for packaging (just 2 machines)

also yes, squeezing more shards out of slugs

[civic ore]

Is the alien power machine worth it? Pretty pricey imo

[fluid sapphire]

its nice for unlocking crash sites that require power

[small crypt]

you can just dismantle it

[civic ore]

Do elaborate I’ve not heard of this and some are a pain in the ass

[fluid sapphire]

for feeding with alien power matrices to get the boost, one is probably worth it

[small crypt]

i used it before i got my hoverpak

[fluid sapphire]

it generates 500MW

its a portable power solution

[small crypt]

once i got hoverpak i had power lines that spanned the entire map in a grid

[civic ore]

Oh shiiiit that’s actually so useful. Goated tip thank you

[fluid sapphire]

i am planning to set up an APA and feed it for that 30% boost

do want to hit 1 terawatt of power at some point, that should help me get over the line eventually

[civic ore]

And I felt like a big man for doubling my power to 7000mw lmao

[small crypt]

yeah coal is great

rocket fuel is super nice, nuclear gets some silly numbers but i never used it

[fluid sapphire]

yeah its a lot when you get it

but you will get more

[small crypt]

only thing i didnt like about coal and rocket fuel was how spammy they are

[fluid sapphire]

with a good enough blueprint building 600 generators takes at most an hour

[small crypt]

i'm a afk and wait for depot refill kind of guy so i only ever got 120 down before i moved on

[rough shore]

Could be upgrading ur factory so u dont afk

Afking is like not cool

[small crypt]

meh

i was burnt out

[fluid sapphire]

if uploaders cant keep up, time to add more uploaders :p

[small crypt]

i spent 32 hours on a game i thought would take 10 😭 significantly underestimated how long everything takes

[fluid sapphire]

thats me with every game

[civic ore]

Does this work? I was curious

[fluid sapphire]

does what work

[small crypt]

yes upload limit is per depot uploader

[plush trellis]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT IS NOW 2/4 for phase 5 items