satisfactory

[dense violet]

Well iirc you had them in the convenient 1:1:1 loops , but yeah some of the machines were choking a bit.

[latent gate]

OH YOU MEAN THE FLUID CONTAINERS

[dense violet]

Then I flattened a loop abd flooded thr system and seemed to work

Your packagers were stop starting

[latent gate]

yeah, doesn't take much to get 'em to do that

[dense violet]

And not because they were full of fluid

[latent gate]

right now I think I have a stack and a half in each loop

[dense violet]

I’ll have a peek again when I get home, but I’m almost certain I got it working without much fuss

[west jackal]

i have 50 total containers in each of my 1:1:1 loops and they seem to run fine

[latent gate]

something somewhere is going to run in just-in-time replacement, trying to head that off ain't getting me anything

[west jackal]

to be fair though i only have 80 fuel per pipe because i just made 2 blueprints that clicked together

[dense violet]

Like it was a pretty clean set up
I gave it like 4⭐

[latent gate]

did I lose a star to pressure towers without pumps?

[west jackal]

me? thank you cobalt 😛

[latent gate]

😏

[dense violet]

Nah you’d gotten rid of those 😛 by then

A few bits of the manifolds had a couple little bumps which can cause issues

[royal gazelle]

#fan-art message
Interesting idea. Considering the other Constructor set that was proposed ended up being rejected because it had too many terrain greebles, this looks a lot more likely to succeed.

[sinful bobcat]

Sushi or direct input

Choose wisely

[granite mango]

hey, just as a concept - im on my first phase for space elvator and figured id reorganize everything because its a big spaghetti. Ive created foundations on a higher spot than my miner and would like to understand the concept of getting raw materials over up. should i simply make a long belt carrying over materials and lead it up? is there an organized way of doing so?
also, should the raw materials first get into a storage box or should they straight up connect to smelters etc?

[pure wharf]

yo my pipes still arent workign anyone wanna like take a look at it?

[latent gate]

#screenshots message

[royal gazelle]

You get lifts eventually. Everything right now is generally temporary.

[pure wharf]

dont judge

[latent gate]

the new one cleans a lot of that up with side-loading through a T junction

[sinful bobcat]

Pipe curve

[dense violet]

But yeah mostly just plan for logistics

Belts and belts lifts and dedicate space for them 🙂

[west jackal]

show

[pure wharf]

sent it

[latent gate]

If you've got documentation on the behavior of ppipe curve bugs I'd love to see it

[dense violet]

But yeah you should be proud of that fuel system. It was clear pretty quickly that the issue was going to be a small hiccup easily overlooked

[feral vector]

you can get something from the awesome shop that lets you put a hole in a foundation and run a conveyor lift through it, those are pretty sweet. but just a ramp and a belt works early game

[pure wharf]

the refinerys arent getting the oil even tho i have enough to duel it

[sinful bobcat]

No where is pipes source

[sinful bobcat]

What is the consumption and production rate of oil

[west jackal]

i dont see the height, but im guessing none of those pumps needed, but yeah more info

[pure wharf]

con is 540 production is 600

[latent gate]

pipe headers enter the plant from the left, you'll see two layers of three pipes each that split and head down the lefthand and center aisles

[sinful bobcat]

I see a 4 meter change, he shouldn’t need pumps

[sinful bobcat]

Did you make sure producer is at 250% not just has 3 shards at 100

[granite mango]

doesnt this mean alot of ramps from each resource node?
also what about their first 'stop'? should it be a storage box that would further split \ move them over to smelter\constructor etc or just straight to a box?

[pure wharf]

yes

[pure wharf]

tried using pumps and its just not changing

[west jackal]

you dont need the pumps

[sinful bobcat]

Put vertical picture

[west jackal]

try using overhead loop for the inputs

[pure wharf]

alr

[latent gate]

I've managed to get the whole plant to run on 7.1gw too, so the whole map gets a guaranteed 60gw of uninterruptible power no matter what anyone throws at it.

[sinful bobcat]

Uh if there isn’t a lot of height changes just let the pipes fill

[latent gate]

yesn't. Lotta strange behaviors with long manifolds and Mk.2 pipes

[pure wharf]

i thought so its still not working though

[sinful bobcat]

You don’t need any pumps

[pure wharf]

i know

[sinful bobcat]

When in doubt, fill the pipes

[latent gate]

I get that you're trying to help, but there isn't really a problem to solve in that screenshot

not yet anyway

we'll see after the 12 hour sprint test

[sinful bobcat]

Suddenly mk1 pipe in 1 post

[latent gate]

gonna need to explain that.

[pure wharf]

im an idiot i have mk 1 pipes😢

[sinful bobcat]

@pure wharf SPEAKING OF WHICH

[latent gate]

I have no idea what you mean

[pure wharf]

im an idiot

[sinful bobcat]

You ever just make a factory, do the dry start, and then like Mk1 belt or pipe

[latent gate]

not since I stopped using Mk.2 for anything except short-shot connectors to the actual fluid mains

definitely a personal design choice, not something I'd recommend as a best-practice, but it's made my fluid debugging waaay easier

[sinful bobcat]

We all get our ways

[latent gate]

fluids ain't like belts, the difference from Mk.1 to Mk.2 isn't anything amazing, just halves the amount of space consumed by piping.

now if we had six tiers of pipes like we do belts, that's different.

but we don't.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

'sides, I like the way the Mk.1 pipes look, too. Much cleaner.

[sinful bobcat]

Do you perchance partake in the overflow type system for pipes

[latent gate]

simpler's better wherever possible.

if I can delete a tank, I prefer to.

[sinful bobcat]

A nice water tower into industrial fluid buffer

[latent gate]

I'd rather not.

though I'll admit I abuse the hell out of pressure towers and valves for head lift

bad habit, I know, but I really hate wasting power

[twin parcel]

my fps drooped like crazzy . its a packager outpost that sends 2400/min packaged water to the oil plant .

any ideas how to solve the issue?

[west jackal]

lower the setting about items on belts

[reef basin]

Yeah don't do that

[bleak valley]

When you finish your coal plant and realize all the nodes are pure so you have to go back and double the machines

[feral vector]

I don't even have mk2 miners on my coal nodes yet lol

[west jackal]

if you have mk4 belts, oc pure nodes, then you can do 32 coal gens, very nice

[cedar iris]

soon after finishing coal power plants, fuel power plants will be available

[proud escarp]

does anyone know how big a coal generator is

[cedar iris]

big?

[proud escarp]

yes

[cedar iris]

width 10m
length 26m
height 36m

[proud escarp]

thanks

a foundation is 8m wide right?

[cedar iris]

8x8 yes

[proud escarp]

so 10 foundations for 8 coal

[reef basin]

Underclock miner

[bleak valley]

No it’s too late

Everything is doubled now

[reef basin]

Well it's an option for next time this happens 🙂

[normal orbit]

@knotty smelt #screenshots message just a FYI those rails are much too close to work properly

[knotty smelt]

Seemed to work fine when I tested it, ill check again tho

[normal orbit]

minimum distance between rails are having one rail centered per foundation

[distant hill]

Random question... what do you call the commonly used practice of producing plastic and rubber where you feed some of each back into the system to make the other, I call it a 'plastic-rubber loop'...

[normal orbit]

recycled plubber

[twin parcel]

how do u know how much truck is enough ? lets say a truck station needs to output 480 *2 / min items

how u do the math?

lets say 100 item per stack

[fiery pewter]

What

I thought foundations were 4×4

[cedar iris]

no

[normal orbit]

look at the truck station interface and check rates?

[cedar iris]

the (1m), (2m), (4m) is the height of the foundation if thats what youre mixing up

[fiery pewter]

I know that those numbers depict the height

I just thought they all were 4×4

It seemed logical to me

[cedar iris]

if you stack two 4m foundations together you get a cube

and no 4m tall cube is 8m^3

[fiery pewter]

You mean 4?

Because 2 would get you a beam

[normal orbit]

no 2

what?

[fiery pewter]

You're trying to tell me that a 4×4×8 block placed next to another 4×4×8 block forms a cube

How

[cedar iris]

????

its 8x4x8

[fiery pewter]

Wait shit

[normal orbit]

no a 8x8x4 block placed ontop of a 8x8x4 block makes a cube

[fiery pewter]

But it don't look like cube

In my mind anyways

[cedar iris]

play the game

[fiery pewter]

Can't now

[cedar iris]

neither can i, doing homework

[fiery pewter]

It would become very logical for my mind if we could just turn a foundation on its side

[cedar iris]

two 4m half foundations

[fiery pewter]

Half foundations are obvious rectangles

But those are 8×4×4?

[normal orbit]

yes

[fiery pewter]

I find it very hard to believe that the most cube looking thing in game, the 4m foundation, is a rectangle until you put 2 of them on top of one another

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message

1 vs 2 foundations

[fiery pewter]

My whole view of the game has been shattered

Apparently I'm very bad at visualizing something

[proud escarp]

because 3 water extractors is enough for 8 coal generators perfectly will it work and not have any lags and stops?

[fiery pewter]

Not in the start no

The pipes need to fill up the machines and the belts have to saturate

[zenith pecan]

Another view of the game #design-and-architecture message , underworld construction of major installations 😄

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message
Wouldn't it have been way better to have this end up on one or two rails instead of 4 gazillion?

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[proud escarp]

yes but when they are jumpstarted will they have any underflows?

full coal and water to begin

[fiery pewter]

The coal generators no

But your miners and water extractors will keep turning on and off

[proud escarp]

?

[zenith pecan]

When starting up my first coal plant, I generally fully prime the pipes on the back of the biofuel generators, and drop stacks of coal into the power station collected by portable miners to get the system going at full strength.

[plucky bone]

I noticed when placing power lines (I use the wire select) It places MK 1 posts then I need to swap to MK 2 posts. Is there a way to place wire and have it use the MK 2 posts right away?

[normal orbit]

? no

[fiery pewter]

Your coal miners and water extractors will keep turning on and off after jumpstarting it that way, because they only have to extract a little bit more to fill the belt/pipe again. Since your belts and pipes start full, you basically have some sort of buffer that only needs tiny bits of refilling

[proud escarp]

what no

[fiery pewter]

Build from a mk2 pole

[proud escarp]

if i have the same input and output they wont turn on and off

[plucky bone]

What about from machines? That's how I do it.

[fiery pewter]

I've had this every single time and I have set up well over 20 coal power plants

[fiery pewter]

Not possible as far as I know

[plucky bone]

Ok. Thank you.

[proud escarp]

if my conveyor belts are inputting 120 coal for 8 generators using 15 each so both 120 per minute they wont buffer

[fiery pewter]

Yes, but you have material on the belts and in the pipes no?
That would need to be empty for your miners and extractors to run all the time

[proud escarp]

if they were empty then the input would be 0

[fiery pewter]

If your're doing overflow anyway

Let me put if differently

[fiery pewter]

You will start with full coal belts and full water pipes right?

I find it safe to assume that the miners and extractors will also be full then

Yes?

Then, if you jumpstart your coal gens

They'll begin full, and gradually use their full supply

But once that stack decreases, the belts refill the machine
Since the belts are full your miner is full

[reef basin]

use 1, see if it's enough, if not, add more

[fiery pewter]

The belt moves a little bit, so the miner only has to push out and mine a little bit

So it turns off again

Or stand-by for better choice of words

Until it needs to mine a little bit again

[proud escarp]

nooo

i mean like

jumpstart the extractors and the coal generators

[fiery pewter]

You mean handfilling?

[proud escarp]

and also they dont fill up with coal while unpowered so they will only take in what the belts are providing

[proud escarp]

no i use some biomass burners to start the extractors and generators at same time

[fiery pewter]

What

[twin parcel]

well the problem is , the truck comes early before station can fully clear its inventory .

[fiery pewter]

They're generators.
They can 100% take in materials whilst turned off

[reef basin]

then the truck is enough

[fiery pewter]

More belts to clear the station

[proud escarp]

literally no machine does that

if im right

[fiery pewter]

Generators do

You can just handfill generators

If they're off too

It's been a while but I've done that

[proud escarp]

did not know that tbh

thought it was nothing fills while off

[fiery pewter]

Machines don't

[proud escarp]

yea i just thought it was nothing at all

[fiery pewter]

Generators only turn off/standby by themselves if they have no materials

[proud escarp]

so far my coal belts have been fine its just the water

because i had two extractors at 75% to fill 4 coal gens

and one would always be low on water and stop

[fiery pewter]

What in the un-efficient

[proud escarp]

?

[fiery pewter]

75% underclocked or overclocked?

[proud escarp]

under

so that they produce 180 together to fuel 4 gens

[fiery pewter]

Well that should work

Then its piping issue

[hard ivy]

nobody calls a machine at 175% "75% overclocked"

[proud escarp]

yea its definitely piping

[fiery pewter]

You never know

I know at least 2

[proud escarp]

its 2 into 1 then split into 4

with like 1.5m lift because gens are a bit higher

[clever pier]

i genuinely think the parachute is better than the jetpack. range only limited by height, much harder to kill yourself accidently. lookout towers to gain height are super cheap to build

[proud escarp]

hypertubes>

[clever pier]

takes a lot longer to build a hyper tube network

oh you mean hypertube canon? ok

[proud escarp]

yes cannon

network is alright if you have the time

[zenith pecan]

I switched to portals.

[clever pier]

hyertube cannon + parachute

[proud escarp]

hypertube cannon + parachute + jetpack

[fiery pewter]

Hypertube cannon+jetpack

Parachute would be so much slower

[clever pier]

but you can glide for much longer with the parachute giving more control of your landing spot

[proud escarp]

@fiery pewter do u have any layouts for 3 extractor to 8 gen?

and is middle extractor merge to left and right pipe which each split to 4 a good idea

[broken valve]

is there a way to put blueprints that are space d at the same height ? im trying to do a big railroad, but when i need do to a corner both side are not on the same level.

[reef basin]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[normal orbit]

nudge from existing foundations or make a foundation guide for it to snap to

[cedar iris]

bababooey

[unkempt blade]

Depends on stack size but I wouldn’t think very many

[proud escarp]

do coal generators need power to start?

mine phased through the map and disappeared

ok thanks

[zenith pecan]

Just prime the water using biomass and pre feed the coal, it'll start without issue and self sustain.

[twin parcel]

depends how many item per stack

[austere marlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1460rlz/labelssigns_can_they_be_used_to_count_the/

Is the answer provided still accurate ? We can't count the content of a storage ?

good idea, i guess this is an alternate solution

[surreal breach]

yo, if i found a hard drive but, theres uranium all around it, how am i supposed to get it??

[tall lantern]

bring food or a hazmat suit

[surreal breach]

alr ty

[timid ledge]

hey 🙂 bulding my first oil station, i produce there also some restfuel can i do anything with these ? or i need to place fluid buffers

[fiery pewter]

Depends on available space and location

[clever pier]

i leave those until I have a the radsuit and mask

[fiery pewter]

Run.

[clever pier]

quick tip: radiation hogs are not immune to the poison gas grenades. I think its one of easiest ways to kill them

[fiery pewter]

Mycelia tree

It's one of the more hidden ones imo

[clever pier]

poison gas grenades can be unlocked quite early

[fiery pewter]

Most of the nobs can be unlocked early

[clever pier]

you can also find poison gas grenades at crash sites before you unlock them sometimes

[smoky forge]

@twin pawn common 1.1 bug

[twin parcel]

uh i hate logistics , if the first station ovverloaded , the truck proceeds to dump the remaning on the next station which they are not supposed to.

[hard ivy]

I mean it's your fault for designing it like that
if it's not supposed to dump items there, maybe it shouldn't stop there

[unkempt blade]

Hate logistics? Are you lost? 😆

[normal orbit]

if you hate logistics, this might not be the game for you :o

[proud escarp]

is iron wire a good alternate recipe

like should i go out and get hard drives for it

[reef basin]

all recipes are "good" for something

[proud escarp]

because it would allow me to make automated wiring with just iron

[reef basin]

and you can get all the alternate recipes anyway

[proud escarp]

biocoal

[reef basin]

yeah, even that

[proud escarp]

really?

[reef basin]

yes

[proud escarp]

in what way

[reef basin]

it enables converting biomass to coal

[normal orbit]

i've used biocoal just to make some gas filters when i couldnt be arsed to go to a coal node :p

[clever pier]

you can unlock high speed connectors early through caterium tree, but you can't unlock circuit boards early.... which are needed for HSC. whats the point of that?

[delicate bone]

Why do I see a lot of joke pictures about portable miners on a Sam site

[unkempt blade]

it's good but cast screws is better

[twin parcel]

dam , ireally need the option of slowing down trucks on exp1.2 . too fast can be a trouble .

[green fiber]

Curve the rods

They only go fast on long straights

[leaden turret]

-# rod the curves, give them a blonde wig and a snazzy outfit 🥁

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> re: dev stream's feature request for traffic lights, speed limit signs maybe?

[green fiber]

Would be nice for decoration too. There was a mod for traffic lights already

[leaden turret]

-# go full mario cart, add speed boosters

-# blue shell rifle ammo

-# banana peel nobelisk

[sour hare]

Hey, quick question, train tracks connect between blueprints? Like belts?

[green fiber]

Autoconnect, yes

[normal orbit]

with auto connect yes, if you build without auto connect they will look connected, but wont be

[proud escarp]

i do have cast screws

im just trying to make automated wiring and if i get iron wire i can make it with just iron

[unkempt blade]

yeah iron wire is nice to give you the option to cut out copper on a lot of recipe chains

[proven trellis]

stinksafactory

[proud escarp]

roblox player btw

[proven trellis]

gng i play both

🥭

[proud escarp]

larp

[proven trellis]

i don’t live action roleplay

[proud escarp]

csm ending is good larper

[proud escarp]

larper larping not larping

[proven trellis]

those are the same things

[proud escarp]

larper larps that they don't larp not larping

[proven trellis]

i need that one speed gif with the egyptian text in the background

i can’t read this

[proud escarp]

larping speed now

larper larps that they dont larp not larping that they dont larp not larping and starts to larp darren

[proven trellis]

who is darren

[proud escarp]

true larper

[proven trellis]

don’t make me larp

[reef basin]

I know it's partly a joke but you can't compare recipes like that

[proud escarp]

is cast screws top 5

[reef basin]

You cannot rank recipes like that

[proud escarp]

overall usefullness

in general not for one thing specific

[keen flame]

the wiki on fandom is missing tier 7 control system development ^-^

[ornate saffron]

No? Ranking recipes goes against what they are. They are tools. I grab a watched when I need a ratchet, and a drill when I need a drill.

[ornate saffron]

Makes sense. It has no been updated in 1000 plus days

[reef basin]

That's like the most subjective property

[proud escarp]

yes but some recipes are good for more things than others

[keen flame]

hi beefalo

[proud escarp]

phase completing/items used in space elevator

[ornate saffron]

Cast screws removes rods. Which means you can't use steel rods or aluminum rods to boost output

[reef basin]

Don't need any alts for that

[proud escarp]

thats true

it does help quite a bit tho

[reef basin]

Again "help" is subjective

[ornate saffron]

Can help.

It also adds complexity to calculations. You can feel the urge to math out every recipe you have to find out the maximum output to input ratios that align with your goals. Time that you could have used just building

[proud escarp]

ngl i love the mathing it out part

[ornate saffron]

Awesome.

But it doesn't change that they are just tools. You have to weigh the use of them every time and what it costs you. So ranking them doesn't matter

[reef basin]

Some people like to save resources, some like to save power or space, some like simpler setups, some like least types of raw resources, etc.

And each rrcipe trades something fir something else. So how "good" the recipe is for you deoends how well it aligns with your preferences and goals

And even if you specified you preferences perfectly, you still cannot give a value to a recipe, only to recipe chain

[proud escarp]

i guess iron wire does mean you lose out on having copper ingots

so things like copper sheets

[reef basin]

You need more ingots per wire and more machines per wire

[ornate saffron]

And you need to use more iron. Yes one of the most common resources but some areas have little. Like the west cost oil fields

[reef basin]

Or areas where some factories already exist

[unkempt blade]

top 3 contending with wet concrete and aluminum beams

[reef basin]

In a very subjective ranking

[proud escarp]

how are those good

[reef basin]

All alts are good

[ornate saffron]

If i had to rank any recipe it would be biocoal for the least appreciated

[reef basin]

And cast screws for most overrated

[void gorge]

Careful

[unkempt blade]

• cast screws removes a production step making early factories much simpler
• wet concrete makes lots of concrete and acts as a sink for water outputs so you don't need to make crazy feedback loops
• aluminum beams is the best way to get to screws using aluminum

[ornate saffron]

Wet concrete give you high volumes of concrete and uses high amounts of water. Thisnis great in situations where you dont want to recycle waste water

[simple pebble]

Better recipe than compacted steel though

[ornate saffron]

Thats the one that uses compacted coal yes? Great paired with nitro rocket fuel

[reef basin]

I'm not scared to say the truth

[ornate saffron]

Alum rods too

[ornate saffron]

Greeny is right.

[simple pebble]

Yeah it's a nice way to use the output, sorta, but still demands way too many foundries 💀

[unkempt blade]

I like steel screws more than vanilla screws but aluminum rods are also a great way to get aluminum screws

[reef basin]

How do you compare two completely different recipes with different output lol?

[proud escarp]

im ngl im looking at aluminium beams and it doesnt look that good

[ornate saffron]

If your are needing that much steel you'll be using a lot of machines regardless. Space is the resources we have the most of

[unkempt blade]

respond confidently and don't stress too much about facts or details

[proud escarp]

a lot of work for steel beams

[normal orbit]

compacted steel is nice, makes use of the compacted coal byproducts from rocket and ionized fuels

[proud escarp]

did u by any chance mean aluminium rods instead of beams if your making screws

[reef basin]

And that's the beauty of recipes, every person has different preferences and uses different recipes. Hence why any ranking is pointless and/or subjective

[simple pebble]

Scale is the big thing

[unkempt blade]

no I meant beams - aluminum rods are top 5ish though

[proud escarp]

aluminium beams thing is so much work for steel beams

[void gorge]

That's the beautiful thing about God's green Earth

It's ok to be wrong

[unkempt blade]

yeah but it frees up lots of precious iron for more screws

[proud escarp]

make steel beams with iron then convert to screws if needed 1:52 sounds pretty nice to me

[unkempt blade]

The important thing is you like the recipes you're using. You're amazing and talented and I believe in you

[void gorge]

And I'm probably the most atheist of them

But it's still fine to make God yokes

[supple canopy]

I will always hold a grudge against youtubers and some steam guides that told me there were "best" recipes and "avoid" recipes because when I was a new player it actually held me off so much of the game. All standard and alt recipes will be an answer to a specific logisitics problem and I failed to realize that on my first couple of playthroughs

[plucky bone]

Ewww. Looked at a planner for adaptive control units. Ucky.

[ornate saffron]

It depends on playstyle. Bauxite generally is in the middle of the maps horizontal plain. And some in the swamp.

So you are likely going to transport it in someway. As a result I tend to process a entire bauxite node at a time leaving me with excess aluminum. If im transporting aluminum anyways I can just use that instead of other resources I have yet to setup

[void gorge]

👀

[crisp barn]

some people here will create a brutalist architecture masterpiece just to put 4 constructors and 2 assemblers inside

[simple pebble]

According to YouTube, all oil on the map is for fuel and you should never use a plastic alt recipe ever

[ornate saffron]

It is possible to make no mistakes and still fail.

Its a wonderful world

[proud escarp]

thank you keto friendly factory karts, most people dont hear that enough

[supple canopy]

exactly. I'm now using rubber concrete extensively, but before I was REAAAALLY careful about using the less oil possible because some tryhard told me I had to make 120 turbomotors/min and I would need all the oil like???

[unkempt blade]

I just know that the benevolent and all-knowing creator[s of satisfactory] want me to play modless and not blaspheme their great works

[crisp barn]

how do people make big factories? Every time I build one it just feels so small compared to the screenshots Ive seen

[simple pebble]

Best part is if you want a 120 turbo motor factory you could power that off nuclear and still have all that oil for alt recipes

[ornate saffron]

Doesn't need to be. Like satisfactory recipes. You need to take each statement in context

[unkempt blade]

I just always keep in mind that when he disagrees with me that's just his way of saying that he loves me and cares about me and wants what's best for me

[simple pebble]

I recommend My Name Jakes's Let's Play on YouTube.

Each video, starting with "going beyond the box factory" covers the steps of what he did.

It's still a lot to take in but it starts to make sense and each video puts a little more attention on one or two different processes

[crisp barn]

ty, I will check him out

[simple pebble]

Granted he does many small-medium size plants but it's one of the best expressions of how to plan structures and get clean logistics that I've seen

[proud escarp]

some people may call you biocoal but always hold yourself like cast screws- sencharjlee 2026

[ornate saffron]

Biocoal is great for what it does. It supplies all my violence with the remains of my foes

[proud escarp]

some people may call you an automated miner but always hold yourself like iron wire- sencharjlee.2 2026

[reef basin]

what's wrong with autominer?

[proud escarp]

what isn't wrong with autominer

[reef basin]

why wouldn't you want automated portable miners in depot?

[proud escarp]

steel pipe use on something else portable miner easy to make with my own rough labour

[reef basin]

oh no, you're using infinite resource, what would you do now

[hasty robin]

When does update 1.2 come to console

[ornate saffron]

Automating and not Automating portable miners are both fine options.

[proud escarp]

infinite resoure but finite time

[ornate saffron]

unknown if i was forced to guess id say fall 2026

[reef basin]

the more reason to automate, so that you stop using the time

[proud escarp]

for some reason ive never ran out of portable miners

but i havent made that many

[ornate saffron]

I use biocoal for ammo and i never run out of ammo. like most things you do what you prefer

[proud escarp]

ammo?

[ornate saffron]

coal plus sulfur = blackpowder

[unique ravine]

Does anyone know if i use the random ores mode do i still get the same amount of total nodes or is that random too? because i don't really care about having the same number of uranium nodes as iron nodes.

[ornate saffron]

they covered this in yesterdays q and a i think. you can check the archives or watch the video

[clever yarrow]

my 1.1 world in exp 1.2 lost 80% of there train signals..any tipps about this?

[proud escarp]

wouldnt they just swap around the ore nodes

so same node locations but differnet ores

[unkempt blade]

yeah miners are one of the things I'll just jam out a few stacks of at the bench when I go to make coffee and stick them in the depot for later

[south sinew]

you actually make/use very few miners so in the long term it's an extremely minimal cost either way, autominer is just a lot more convenient

[unique ravine]

yes but what i mean is if the total amount of a certain ore is also random or if the total amount is the same or similar

[unique ravine]

do you know the answer cause i assume that's a pretty long stream to try and find that specific question

[ornate saffron]

if i did i would have given it already

[proud escarp]

you can randomize everything or individual groups

if you do everything then there is the chance to have a uranium only world that is impossible

[unique ravine]

pretty sure that's not really how it works

[proud escarp]

Randomization Options
Use Full Randomization - If used, ignores grouping/purity/distributions/exclusion zones and completely randomizes resources. This could theoretically result in a world only Uranium nodes that's impossible to complete, but is truly random.
Purity Exclusion Zones - If used, tries to exclude higher-purity nodes from starting areas to increase challenge.
Individual options to randomize specific resources (E.g. Uranium, SAM, etc)

[proud escarp]

i dont know i just took it from website

[unique ravine]

if you choose any of the other options other than full randomizxation i assume they just replace other ores so not randomize individual groups but replace certain ores with others

[timid rune]

hmm do I want to slop alclad casing @ 250%

[ornate saffron]

so a rep from the QA site said that you are guaranteed 1 of each standard node per biome or something to that effect

[proud escarp]

Supported Resources
Bauxite
Caterium
Coal
Copper
Iron
Limestone
Quartz
Sulfur
Note: Uranium and S.A.M. nodes are fully excluded (locations unchanged). Bauxite won't appear in groups.

[real shale]

Yummy uranium

Also hello everyone

[ornate saffron]

[timid rune]

'ello

[real shale]

Factory....

[timid rune]

trying to maths out 30 warped drive / min + 126 singularity cell / min

[ornate saffron]

thats ..... a choice

[timid rune]

think I might just have enough aluminum haha

I mean.... there's not much else to do in this save

[ornate saffron]

you could make Babylon 5 from the cult classic TV show

[timid rune]

haven't touched this save in about 5-6 months and trying to figure out how much aluminum I was using is... fun

[ornate saffron]

Kodus to you. I cannot pick up old saves. I just wander confused and often saying WTF was i thinking

[timid rune]

I knew I had 0 bauxite left on the map though

[ornate saffron]

past Beefalo Often leaves problems for future beefalo. Both are jerks

[real shale]

Hello kibitz

[ornate saffron]

still havent watched any of his content outside the steam traielr for the game lol

[valid glade]

i love kibitz vids

[timid rune]

1042.54x refinery

oh that's fun

for Copper ingots alone

[real shale]

Future nerdmojer always questions past nerdmojers abilities as an engineer don't worry

[unique ravine]

btw i just tested it, the random setting just changes where the ores spawns the amount stays the exact same, i had set the ores to all pure and random and one with all pure and normal and the amount of ores in the world for each type was the exact same.

but i presume this is not the case if you choose any of the other resource node randomization settings

[timid rune]

only 300-400GW needed if the whole setup is overclocked

[timid rune]

the 126 singularity cell is what I need to finish up my nuclear processing chain

think I also make too much plastic haha

hmm definitely have to slop alclad casing

[real shale]

At least you aren't slopping AI expansion servers, otherwise it'd be AI slop

[spare prism]

Good morning

[real shale]

🍖 alo

[gusty hornet]

Hello Hello

I slooped my greetings

[next ivy]

[ornate saffron]

nothing like a cool to make you rise in the morning

[next ivy]

[gusty hornet]

But like what if i took this and did this

[next ivy]

then there is no

until you

[gusty hornet]

[next ivy]

[gusty hornet]

you smell lol

[next ivy]

[gusty hornet]

Damn i was hoping it would look like an ada mesage

[next ivy]

huh, ficsit has priority over ada when the bot applies the react

[gusty hornet]

U wanna play satis

Im on xbox

Satisfactory no more clanker update

[spare prism]

I need to restart my game where should I land

[next ivy]

"need to"

[cedar iris]

I don't think it means anything

[gusty hornet]

Im fighting the urge not to say my ass

[ornate saffron]

if yo are doing all random do the grasslands

falt areas doggos and easy crash sites

[next ivy]

i still didnt figure out how to tame

[spare prism]

I cheated on my world now I feel bad lol

[gusty hornet]

I dont tbh

[next ivy]

i will cheat on my save

[gusty hornet]

Duping Somers isint that bad tbh

[next ivy]

just not yet

[proven snow]

Never known where it was but think I might have found the doggo cave for my first time ever, on this save

Got myself 6 doggos, they seem pretty useful. Never bothered to tame them before

[ornate saffron]

depending on peoples definition i did too.

i spawned 7 Hard-drives as seven on my crash sites are bugged

[gusty hornet]

With the scale i build on and concidering i brute force my way wthrough the game ill be fine

[valid glade]

i wouldn’t say that’s cheating, more-so just making it where you can play the game as its intended

[spare prism]

Well then you had no other choice

[tall lantern]

well you could just buy more drives from the Shop

[next ivy]

you get more than enough hard drives on the map anyways, right ?

[tall lantern]

but yes, counteracting a bug is a very different thing to actively giving yourself more than intended

[ornate saffron]

in the end i dont see anything as cheating other then faking achievment progress. But even then i dont care about other people achievment score

[gusty hornet]

Ugh im beating my head i hate people that claim to know what they are doing but b
Make a mess

[next ivy]

i got both collection achievements already, and still dont have all the drives or spheres on the map

[gusty hornet]

Not to mention trains are

[ornate saffron]

I added the Curvebuilder mod last night. SOOOO much easier. Im proffecient in making curves but its so time consumming

[gusty hornet]

Interesting

[gusty hornet]

I wish i had access

U think the devs will ever add an official mod browser

For all platforms

[valid glade]

tbh i doubt it

[jagged nymph]

thats very highly doubtful, especially for console

[gusty hornet]

You ever get the feeling of loneliness when your alone in your save

[jagged nymph]

nah

i have my doggos

[valid glade]

nah idm playing alone

[ornate saffron]

they dont official support mods on PC either so its duobtful

[valid glade]

the key is to have netflix open on second monitor 😜

[real shale]

Mods on console require a lot more hoops to jump through in comparison to PC

[ornate saffron]

i do this.... working through the x files

[gusty hornet]

I just wish i could make pretty factories like you guys...

[ornate saffron]

time and practice

[gusty hornet]

Idk how to do curves

[jagged nymph]

youll get there eventually if you practice it alot

[gusty hornet]

Or trains

[jagged nymph]

plenty of tutorials on youtube

[jagged nymph]

plenty of tutorials for this too

[real shale]

What is a curve?

[ornate saffron]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 or watch youtube tutorials many wish to share there knowledge

[jagged nymph]

line but line no go straight line go nyoom

[valid glade]

ooo i enjoy the x files, im working through greys anatomy rn

[real shale]

Your curves are beautiful

[ornate saffron]

not proud of it as that show is dog poo. but ive seen 11 seasons lol

[jagged nymph]

WHAT

[sage bluff]

Satisfactory getting another update gave me the motivation to win the game without and cheats or mods this time 😃

[jagged nymph]

IM A MINOR

[real shale]

You do not know the quote from the game

[jagged nymph]

no

[real shale]

That is very sad

[valid glade]

it’s not sooo bad but it’s definitely too long 😭

[jagged nymph]

wait what game

[real shale]

This game

[jagged nymph]

? from ada ?

[real shale]

What I said is a quote from the game

[jagged nymph]

ive never heard it then i dont think

but i also dont listen to ada

[real shale]

If you've collected enough mercer spheres you've definitely heard it before

[ornate saffron]

i was just going to say something to that effect lol

[jagged nymph]

yeah then its just cause i wasnt listening to ada lol

[spare prism]

🤣

[gusty hornet]

Imim just bored and noone is interestee in my post....

[real shale]

Spoilers

||Alien : Your curves are beautiful
Ada : How inappropriate, Tell me more||

[valid glade]

damn ada a freak

[jagged nymph]

👁‍🗨

literally who uses the "eye in speech bubble' emoji

[ornate saffron]

besides the person who is joining you

[valid glade]

LOL

[gusty hornet]

They haven't even texted me

After being told to wait radio sielence

[ornate saffron]

do some stretches and drink some water

[real shale]

Maxeek did you change cat

I do not recognise this cat

I see

[timid rune]

kinda funny that 375 motors/min is barely 24GW ish even when overlocked lol

[real shale]

That's a lot of motors

[jagged nymph]

what could you possible need so many motors for

[timid rune]

390 even

30 turbomotors+ 75 Modular Engine

[ornate saffron]

vanity builds

[timid rune]

yeah I am at that point in the game/save where I just want to do things lol

did notice how relatively simple steel rotor motor builds are

[real shale]

Iron pipe iron wire supremqcy

[timid rune]

compared to normal rotor builds

[crimson robin]

Guys would I enjoy game if I get 60 fps on 720p with med-high settings early? I really wanna see how my factory improves, that’s important to me, and if I’ll have 15fps I doubt I’ll have any enjoyment

[timid rune]

sad that iron pipe sucks with massive builds I did

[real shale]

Yeahhhh it trades off a lot for the convenience

[proven snow]

I'd say it would probably be fine at least if you drop settings to low

But very dependent on the person what performance and graphics you find enjoyable

[crimson robin]

I can use low and do like only 50% render (yk what I mean), my point is like if I’ll have enjoyable fps

[timid rune]

do love my caterium computer build though

115.5 computers/min from just a normal copper + normal caterium node lol

[crimson robin]

Ehat would u say

[valid glade]

dude… there’s no way you’re still asking this a whole day later 😭 😭 🙏

[jagged nymph]

as we saud yesterday, it wont be an enjoyable experience with that performance

but thats up to you if you are ok with experiencing that

[timid rune]

somewhat considering going from partially pure aluminum ingot to normal aluminum ingot recipe

unfortunately quartz is kinda a limiting factor hah

[coral marsh]

the normal recipe does give more, so if youi need the increase in aluminium production go for it

[timid rune]

1/3 more IIRC

[normal orbit]

Yea 1/3rd more ingots at cost of yes silica

Get 16400 ingots over 12300 at cost of 20500 silica if you use all bauxite :p

[timid rune]

and use all the map worth of quartz! 😛

[coral marsh]

if CSS was to add oil to material conversion in the converter, what material would you guy's want to be used to turn into oil

[ornate saffron]

many crude oil sources IRL have organic Acids which need to be removed. So sulpheric acid seems like a natural fit

[coral marsh]

remember

the converter doesen't ahve a liquid input port

[ornate saffron]

yes, but you started with oil which is a fluid so i just vibed with it

[tall lantern]

hydrocarbon so coal?

not like any of the other transmutations have a logical backing, so use whatever

[ornate saffron]

we got that already as petro coke though

[coral marsh]

actually, i like the hydrocarbon idea

perhaps petroleum coke would be a good material

[tall lantern]

i used the oil to make the oil

[coral marsh]

it would be a huge bonus to giving pet coke a better use other than just sinking it or being the worst fuel for coal power

[coral marsh]

lol

[green fiber]

Uranium

[tall lantern]

biomass

[green fiber]

Dont wanna do Nuclear? Now you can go even more bonkers with Rocket Fuel

[ornate saffron]

well lets just go crazy and take oil and iron and make sam from it lol]

[supple canopy]

you mean like the tempered ingots recipes?

[coral marsh]

tempered caterium is actually better than pure caterium

in my experience

[green fiber]

Pales compared to leached caterium

[coral marsh]

that'd be limited, but i like your idea

[coral marsh]

god that one is fantastic

[green fiber]

Coal to sulfur for bootleg tempered caterium but better

[coral marsh]

now that's just exspensively vulgar lmao

[coral marsh]

there is a modded recipe that turns a lot of copper and a lot more iron into SAM ore

[green fiber]

Anything into SAM is honestly unwarranted

[coral marsh]

very much so

okay, there is already unlimited water in the game but imagine a new machine "compressor" squeezes biomass and gives water as the main product

(be useless ik but funny)

[real shale]

Water

[green fiber]

The Juicer

[coral marsh]

be a bit, OP wouldn't it? you'd have to make the water input ridiculously high

[green fiber]

Packaged Water

And it takes a stack of reanimated SAM

[coral marsh]

low plastic count as a bi product?

[real shale]

Ohhhhhhh okay, nothing then.

[green fiber]

No. Since you can use alts to make canisters from iron

[real shale]

Like excited photonic matter, just free oil

[coral marsh]

good point

[coral marsh]

make it a T9 recipe only, i like that

[green fiber]

Granted: One 250% Converter now makes 1/min Oil

[coral marsh]

omg lmao

[real shale]

I'll take it

McGalleon the wise genie of inconvenient twists

[green fiber]

Average power demand will be 5000 MW per 100% Converter

[coral marsh]

0.4/Min at 100% clock speed

[green fiber]

Now you can indeed turn uranium into oil.... by maxing out nuclear power for oil converters

[real shale]

Uranium into oil to give people more of a reason to use rocket fuel and not nuclear

[coral marsh]

kinda fun you can turn, iirc, bauxite into nitrogen gas tbh

[green fiber]

Gives more purpose to uranium lol

[coral marsh]

lol

[green fiber]

use the rocket fuel to make power to make oil to make rocket fuel

[real shale]

I mean what else could you do with uranium anyway besides making enough nuclear bombs to level the planet

[green fiber]

Cancer Beams

[coral marsh]

got a point there

[real shale]

Cancer inducing rebar

[weak bloom]

Fine. Rocket fuel back to oil but at a higher rate :^)

[coral marsh]

that one cancer gun from a dc animated tv show (harley quinn used it unaware)

[west jackal]

Turns out twenty was WAY too many. Like 3 or 4 was plenty 😂

[coral marsh]

weapons grade plutonium

[unkempt blade]

Yeah that sounds like somewhere around what I would have guessed. It sounded like a medium-long route and not a crazy throughput for vehicle to handle

[west jackal]

I think path said round trip like 1200m

[unkempt blade]

the number just tends to vary a lot based on stack size and route so it's hard to guess without a little tinkering at first

[west jackal]

And it is CB so stack is 100

[leaden turret]

looks at plutonium rods

[smoky flame]

Anyone can eli5 sloshing?

[leaden turret]

water go boing and travel the other way

[solar loom]

guys it says station unreachable, but i can drive it there

[tall lantern]

station's probably backwards

[solar loom]

i have a double locomotive

[coral marsh]

skill issue

[leaden turret]

train can't autopilot backwards

[tall lantern]

train must be able to drive in at the back (platforms first) and end with the front of the train at the same place as the curved part of the actual station part

[supple canopy]

really? I would have thought way more

[solar loom]

and why dont they load my train

[leaden turret]

can't auto-dock if they can't auto-pilot

[abstract girder]

hello guys

[normal orbit]

station can still be backwards

[abstract girder]

how? my trains can do that

[jagged nymph]

only if you add another train facing the other direction

[solar loom]

i cant manually dock either

[normal orbit]

back-wards

[proven snow]

If it has a engine on each side then yea it can

But an engine can't backpedal automatically

[abstract girder]

Yes, I did the same thing, but the guy says he did the same thing and it didn't work for him.

[rough shore]

when is solid steel alt recipe unlocked im beginning to doubt that it is unlocked when u unlock steel i basically rolled every alt recipe except it

[solar loom]

go to #screenshots please

[normal orbit]

its backwards

[leaden turret]

station's backwards

round bit has to point "forwards" on approach

[normal orbit]

gotta pay attention to the massive arrow showing direction on directional buildables

also all buildables which are directional also have a visual shape or face showing a direction

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message I think that for your train to dock here, the locomotive needs to be positioned in the direction your train station is facing.

[normal orbit]

no you cannot have the station like that. the freight terminals cannot connect to the front

they will not be part of the station

[abstract girder]

Yes, I wasn't talking about cargo; when the locomotive facing that direction encounters the train station, the wagons will be left behind.

[floral sparrow]

Is it more power-efficient to use 100 constructors at 1% clock speed than a single constructor at 100% clock speed?

[normal orbit]

yes

[floral sparrow]

Darn. Are space and construction materials the only downsides to that?

[normal orbit]

no, the manifold loading is also a big downside

you have 100 inventories to fill instead of 1

[crimson robin]

guys with 50% render i can play on ultra with 720p early, its 70-80fps, should i be able to play game and enjoy it fps wise?

[floral sparrow]

I'm new to that term. Just looking it up, would that mean putting a merger in front of every constructor output to merge them onto a single conveyer perpendicular?

[normal orbit]

we can't answer if you will enjoy something, thats entirely up to you

[crimson robin]

im talking about performance, would i have enough fps by late game

[normal orbit]

yes, and splitters to load them

[leaden turret]

"will I enjoy surstroming"

[west jackal]

The wiki tells you this btw

[crimson robin]

@normal orbit what do you sa

[abstract girder]

Friends, can you help me here? #math-and-meta

[rough shore]

i just thought its outdated or smth cuz ive scanned so many hard drives without getting it

[normal orbit]

i cannot speak for you. I wouldnt enjoy 50% scale on 720p but you might?

[west jackal]

Dude we answer this last time

[crimson robin]

yep, i enjoy the image, what im asking is if ill have playable fps late game

[normal orbit]

whats playable fps for you?

1, 5, 10?

[crimson robin]

45-50? maybe 40-50. idk but if its playable

maybe 35 very late

[normal orbit]

probably no then

[floral sparrow]

If I'm willing to set all that up though, is there no practical ongoing downside to it?

[crimson robin]

how many would i get what you think?

if i get 80 on ultra at start

720p tho

i can low down settings even more once its late

[normal orbit]

no, just annoyace of building it to save like 2mw

[crimson robin]

sapphic im talkin to you

[normal orbit]

i dont know

[crimson robin]

keep my words in your mind and lmk what you think

[floral sparrow]

Oof, that knowledge is probably going to curse me

Knowing I can always just build 1000 constructors to make it technically more efficient

[normal orbit]

you have a potato pc, i cannot begin to guess how much performance loss you'll get

[crimson robin]

but like if you get 80 by early at ultra how many would you get in late game for like 500hr save with low settings? im talking about general performance loss among all players cuz i know it lags for many people

[normal orbit]

it will depend how much you build

its impossible to give a number

play and find out

[crimson robin]

well just take usual 500hr save

and lmk whats performance loss

[normal orbit]

theres no such thing

[crimson robin]

well what if its a big base

[leaden turret]

how big is big

[crimson robin]

well megabase

[tall lantern]

bigger than small but smaller than massive

[crimson robin]

what abt megabases and what about something between megabase and mid base

[normal orbit]

you are not doing a mega base with that pc sorry

[crimson robin]

XD

[normal orbit]

its below minimum specs

[leaden turret]

on the plus side, 1.2 would let you lower the scaling mulitplier so you don't have to produce as much stuff

[normal orbit]

i'll give you a number, you'll have 10spf. if its better than that. pleasant surprise

[crimson robin]

at megabase? what about mid base? like lets say 2xless than megabase

[tall lantern]

you know there are no universal definitions for any sort of build scale right

[leaden turret]

people think josh is king of ridiculously complicated builds, they haven't seen blandrew's stuff

[crimson robin]

how many lets say miners megabases have?

[tall lantern]

depends

[crimson robin]

well more than 5k?

[tall lantern]

there aren't that many nodes on the map, so no

somewhere between say 1/10th and every single node

as a guesstimate

[leaden turret]

all your questions amount to going into a home improvement store and asking what size curtains you need for your windows without knowing what size your windows are

[tall lantern]

lol

or is more asking what size window would fit your curtains

[leaden turret]

"normal size"

there is no normal size

[normal orbit]

but what if curtains for only half the house? :p

[ornate saffron]

what about california shutters

[crimson robin]

well 5k buildings, can megabase have that many? or is it low/high?

[normal orbit]

...

just stop, you're not gonna get an answer that will suit you

[leaden turret]

your questions are vague, your pc is potato, play too hard you'll have a bad time.

[crimson robin]

i tryna find optimal answer so that i can understand

i love building a lot of buildings

thats what i love. maybe you guys have savefiles that i can join and check what fps ill have?

[tall lantern]

then your machine will struggle at some point

[normal orbit]

should probably save up for a better pc first tbh

[crimson robin]

financial problems due to region rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVpAleETe8 ill try this one and let you know how many fps i get, you dont mind?

[leaden turret]

this conversation reminded me of this:

If I were to quantify it's bigness would be doing it a disservice"
#off-topic-media message

[native tapir]

Hello Marv,

Josh is a tourist.

-Doug

[leaden turret]

||calling LGIO crazy is calling fettucine alfredo italian cuisine||

[crimson robin]

i downloaded phase 4 and i get like 50 fps or so on low settings, 48 on med

what od you think? can someone check? @leaden turret @normal orbit

[leaden turret]

nuuu.

I gonna go nap.

[ornate saffron]

man I love QI

[crimson robin]

just check timestap and look at the size of the factory please.

[native tapir]

Josh is a strong jack of all trades. I would not battle him if the game were randomized. But I would be happy to take him on in Satisfactory.

-Doug

[leaden turret]

Josh is QA as entertainment.

[crimson robin]

could u?

[real shale]

Im convinced that when josh posts a satisfactory video the QA team all host a team meeting where they watch the video together and take notes

[plucky bone]

Power demands be real. Yuck.

[ornate saffron]

just another fun project to manage %_%

[crimson robin]

you two

[plucky bone]

Ye. 750 some MW to sloop a manufacturer kinda did my grid in.

[crimson robin]

could i get your opinion please

[plucky bone]

On?

[tall lantern]

if you've grabbed a random save and checked its performance, you now have a benchmark for how big you can build to get that performance. Performance too low? can't build that much. Performance more than expected? congrats you can build more.

how much will you actually build? nobody can answer that, so nobody can tell you if that performance is sufficient

[plucky bone]

If your asking about your setup I used to play on a baby office box PC with a 1080(I think) for years so really just try it. If your so worried about FPS and so on only way to know is try.

[crimson robin]

what im asking is can you guys look at phase 4 timestamp on this vid and see the sizes of base

[plucky bone]

You are the only person that can make that decision.

[crimson robin]

and lmk if its a big base and if its enough to cmplete game

so?

[quaint goblet]

you can complete the game with very few machines

it depends on how much time you're willing to spend

and how much you're willing to be the conveyor belt

[crimson robin]

yep thats the issue. thats why im askin to watch this vid and check phase 4 size of the base

[quaint goblet]

no thanks

[crimson robin]

why not tho? id be very thankful

[quaint goblet]

cause i dont want to

[crimson robin]

maybe others can give their opinion

[clear aspen]

What’s up chat

[crimson robin]

sup, could you look onto my question?

[clear aspen]

What is the question?

[gusty hornet]

Im going to raise a army of lizard doggos just so they can grab random shit for my sink

[jagged nymph]

listen if you keep asking the same question every 5 minutes and keep getting the same answer, its not gonna change

[crimson robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVpAleETe8 can you check phase 4 timestamp base, i get 45-60 fps there. i wanna know if that size is enough and if its considered small

[crimson robin]

ive a diff question now tho

[clear aspen]

Can’t watch the video cause I’m in school rn

[quaint goblet]

the best answer anyone can give is ‘play the game and see’

cause again you can beat the game with very few machines

[crimson robin]

expensive in my country rn, so if im not refunding it ill lose all at. and i all i have is 2 hrs

[ornate saffron]

until they choose violence and bring you Nukes

[jagged nymph]

then how do you know that you get 45 fps there?

if youre asking if you should buy the game how do you know what fps you get

[crimson robin]

well i meant i got it, but played for 20 mins or so, just checking saves of big bases and stuff, i have like 1hr and 30 min left until im not able to refund, see what i mean?

[earnest quail]

In my humble opinion that is a big factory and 50fps with that is pretty good especially if your pc is below minimum specs

[crimson robin]

big thanks you!

[earnest quail]

Way bigger than what I did on my first run anyway

[jagged nymph]

listen, if you are ok with playing a game at that fps, play the game. If you dont want to play with that low fps, dont play it

[crimson robin]

could u just look at the vid and tell me your opinion on size of the base?

[tall lantern]

that's a 1 hour video mate

[supple canopy]

Megafactories are the first ever to have the last as in the era of that when of a factory making input and the FPS began. If you have dreams, never don't stop stopping

only answer possible

[eternal tide]

I beg for a Radio tower variant that has a smaller radius but can actually find the locate Mercer Spheres, Somersloops and Hard Drives. 😩 I don't want to cheat and use a wiki.

[crimson robin]

phase 4 timestap

just skip some scenes, i want overall opinion on the base size and if 50 fps seems good for that size

[twin parcel]

uh why my pipes keeps sloshing even though there is pumping up?

[plucky bone]

To be fair I'd play this game anyway possible. Wished I would have played from when I first got it in 2021. It's an awesome game for so many reasons.

[supple canopy]

pumps don't prevent sloshing

[crimson robin]

could you take a look at the base on phase 4 timestamp and give your opinion on size?

[twin parcel]

what prevents sloshing when pumping against gravity?

[ornate saffron]

use the hand scanner.

[eternal tide]

Buff the hand scanner or have a mark 2.

[plucky bone]

No thank you. I'm green and have no clue what end game is and I am not ruining the experience watching some world tour vid. Wrecks the whole concept of a game seeing what is possible. Just not my thing sorry.

[supple canopy]

prefilling the pipes is the best way to mitigate flow variations

[crimson robin]

INSANE, helloN

[fluid sapphire]

Bro just get the game and play it fr, no one can make the judgment for you :p

[crimson robin]

can u check your dm

[supple canopy]

there ARE setups with pipe junctions, buffers and pumps that mitigate sloshing but honestly I never had to use them

[quaint goblet]

theres a whole document on it

[jagged nymph]

dude what answer are you even looking for

youve been asking the same thing for 2 days and youve gotten answers

[supple canopy]

You are hyperfixating on performance

[quaint goblet]

50fps is fine bro

[crimson robin]

no one of you would enjoy playing this game in 15 fps

[crimson robin]

you checked base size tho?

[quaint goblet]

no

because i have a life

[native tapir]

I do not even enjoy this game at 160fps

Worst 1300 hours of my life so far.

[twin parcel]

well kinda have to , packaged fuel production kinda not flowing smoothly , because the crude oil has flow issue when making making heavy oil residue .

[quaint goblet]

this game is hell

[jagged nymph]

then done get the game! get it if you want, dont get it if you dont want to

[supple canopy]

get the game download the savefile if it's not good get a refund

[supple canopy]

did you prefill your pipes?

[crimson robin]

I WANT TO, issue is i love building big factories, and i wanna know the definiton of size of factory on video

[supple canopy]

what are your specs?

[ornate saffron]

the tower limits your search radious and the scanner allows you to pinpoint. the system works as intended.

[crimson robin]

i get 50 fps on mid settings in that savefile but idk if this factory is considered big

[jagged nymph]

well, build a factory that big if you want, dont build one that big if you dont want to. There are so many different ways and sizes to build factories

[plucky bone]

Is there an option to see FPS? Now this fellow has me wondering what I am at. Lool

[eternal tide]

Suffering as intended

[tall lantern]

stat fps and stat unit

in the in-game console

[plucky bone]

There's a console?

[crimson robin]

is it not like factorio in terms of ratios? or like i meant that i have a need to automate everything, isnt this a point

[ornate saffron]

just get your refund. the amount of effort put into this topic has gone beyond any possible gains

[quaint goblet]

press tildae in gane

[supple canopy]

then you're good to go

[crimson robin]

did you check the factory on vid tho?

[plucky bone]

Ok. Sweet thanks.

[supple canopy]

yes

[ornate saffron]

Games like this are about challenges ^_^

[quaint goblet]

if you feel that factory is big enough for what you wanna do then more power to you

[crimson robin]

so its enough to cover all aspects of game?

[quaint goblet]

if its not then the only way to see it to check yourself

[crimson robin]

guys my main goal from this game is to research everything obtain gain everything

[jagged nymph]

well some people automate alot of stuff, some people automate little stuff, some people decorate alot, some people dont. Each persons world is wildly different

[crimson robin]

i want it to be like in factorio so that its ALL automated and i dont need to handcraft much at all

[quaint goblet]

i automated 30 motors/minute in my world

[twin parcel]

kinda , the flow from oil node to fluid buffer is not reaching 600 ,

[jagged nymph]

yes thats what youre supposed to do

[quaint goblet]

so many screws for copper rotors

[jagged nymph]

i mean like how much per minute you automate

[tall lantern]

this is normal, but even with that, people build at wildly different scales

[quaint goblet]

i never wanna see screws again

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[quaint goblet]

hello

[crimson robin]

my goal is mostly getting everything and researching/obtaining that game has to offer

[clear aspen]

Hru

[quaint goblet]

im okay wbu

[plucky bone]

Hello!

[clear aspen]

Just bored

[quaint goblet]

fair

[clear aspen]

What’s up choom

[jagged nymph]

thats what youre supposed to do. My answer is still the same. Some people build massive factories that make very large amounts of stuff, some peple automate a small amount of each item. Some people decorate alot, some people dont. Some people use trucks and trains and drones alot, some dont. All of this contributes to performance. Everyones word is very different.

[clear aspen]

Man a satisfactory and cyberpunk collab would be soo preem

[plucky bone]

Making another refinery power plant and blowing fuses. You?

[crimson robin]

this factory on vid has several plastic factories and first one makes 1740 plastic ingots, im tryna tell you the scale

[twin parcel]

alright i see issue , sloshing between oil extractor and industrial buffer . issue is less apparent on mk1 pipes but very obvious in mk2 pipes .

[clear aspen]

Just chillin, nothing to nova

[tall lantern]

right, but you may might build more, or less, or completely differently

[crimson robin]

thats perminute

[jagged nymph]

my answer doesnt change. Get the game if you want, dont get it if you dont. I literally dont know what answer you want me to give. Asking the same question over and over will get the same answer each time

[plucky bone]

Ah. I never realized the scope of builds in here. Wow I underestimated at the start holy wow.

[real shale]

What the hell is your discord activity

[jagged nymph]

what about it

[real shale]

Do you know what grass is? Or the outside world?

[quaint goblet]

game spoofing

[jagged nymph]

ive heard rumors about it

[clear aspen]

What’s up choom? Anything nova recently?

[crimson robin]

is 400 coal per minute considered mid or big base?

[ornate saffron]

The same can be said about me lol

[tall lantern]

tiny early game

[clear aspen]

What’s up choom

[twin parcel]

the game is just minecraft but factory skin on it . its called sandbox for a reason .

[crimson robin]

thats rocket fuel factory

[tall lantern]

you'll likely use more than that on just coal power in phase 2

[jagged nymph]

400 coal per minute is a very small amount, coal is used for many things, 400 coal is like 30 percent of what you can get from a single miner late game

[crimson robin]

150 rocket fuel per minute guys

thats what i meant to say

[tall lantern]

150 rocket fuel is also tiny

[plucky bone]

Lots of grass and outside world in Satisfactory. Besides it's white out here so no grass for another month or 2.

[jagged nymph]

also very small amount

[tall lantern]

if you do do rocket fuel you'd likely be making at least a few thousand per minute

[clear aspen]

Wish it snowed in Texas

[crimson robin]

nuclear pasta 1 per min what abt it

[jagged nymph]

very small amount

[tall lantern]

also small

but more subjective as phase resources don't need the same bulk as others

[twin parcel]

try do 100 , jk

[real shale]

Nuclear pasta is an exception to this rule

[jagged nymph]

yeah np is used in ficsonium and portals

[tall lantern]

both of which are very optional

but yes, if you are using it for other stuff, very smal

[real shale]

Nuclear pasta is special just don't open the box please

Whatever you do, DONT OPEN IT

[ornate saffron]

The sky, im just walking in circles at work.

[clear aspen]

I see

[twin parcel]

fun fact , u wont have enough bauxite even if you use sam if u want to use all uranium and plutonium for power and craft fisconium to dispose the waste .

[clear aspen]

Just finish my 2nd re-watch of cyberpeak edgerunners yesterday

[ornate saffron]

600 oil equals 2400 rocket fuel

[weak bloom]

But I'm hungry and the pasta looks tasty!

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-general

[plucky bone]

"O yes keep doing that because pioneers definitely grow on trees" Gotta love ADA

[ornate saffron]

Pretty sure they are || redacted see #story-spoilers||

[weak bloom]

Alao man radio control units and cooling systems chew through SO MUCH ALUMINUM

[tall lodge]

I love the 1.0 sassy ada a lot more then the pre 1.0 ada

[ornate saffron]

1.2 brings yet..... more sass

[real shale]

A cow, rocket scientist and power slug walk into a bar......

[tall lodge]

Good!

[weak bloom]

I like how ada hears the aliens dunking on us and is like "I KNOW, right?? Stupid humans" knowing full well we can hear

[real shale]

||Now imagine what they are saying when we can no longer hear them communicate||

[weak bloom]

"is this your blood?"
"No but I'm responsible for it unfortunately"

[quaint goblet]

cyberpunk mentioned

[clear aspen]

Cyperpeak*

[quaint goblet]

hell yeah

anything except meeting hanako at embers

[clear aspen]

Real

Satisfactory and cyberpunk crossover would be so peak

[quaint goblet]

v would not be taking ADA’s shit

[quaint goblet]

neither would johnny

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-general

[supple canopy]

I'm making 1800 rocket fuel/min with only 12 blenders and a dozen refineries just get the game man you're good

[crimson robin]

I hope you sure brother, I really do, positive opinions on this topic really motivate me

[meager oxide]

It could be great to have a control panel that set the overclocking of every machine linked to the power grid, as for the lights.

[keen flame]

if a machine has yellow light does that ,ean its not consuming any power

[tall lantern]

0.1 MW

[twin parcel]

im making 2400 packaged fuel /min , probably gonna convert all of those those rocket fuel later .

[twin parcel]

no , it means no resource input or the output is clogged.

[keen flame]

and if i pause production then does it stop consuming power

[still dagger]

but does it still consume power ?

[west jackal]

Are you on desktop or laptop? If desktop, you can get a used discrete gpu for 10-15 dollars if you get an old one and you'll get much better performance

[twin parcel]

yea

[feral vector]

hmm how hard is it to unlock the sloop production increase thing? I've been hoarding power slugs and other stuff so I can get 2x from them

[tall lantern]

not that hard

[feral vector]

mostly just need to explore and find a bunch of sloops?

[clear aspen]

U need SAM

[tall lantern]

check the MAM and see

[feral vector]

hmm yeah I found a good SAM node, pure I think, but it's far away and on top of some huge tall thing I gotta figure out how I'm gonna get it lol

[eager palm]

Ride the belts upward to victory

[tall lantern]

ramps, conveyor lifts, ladders

[feral vector]

I built a ridiculous floating foundation ramp up there lol

just not sure if I should belt it all the way back to base, or just make a belt down and use a truck or something

I got sidetracked last night and set up my first proper production chain for motors

[plucky bone]

Trucks are very useful for transport early on. I use about 4 now.

[feral vector]

yeah I was pleasantly surprised when I set one up for coal

[plucky bone]

At least I think so

[feral vector]

but honestly right now I have a belt with 240 coal and that's plenty for what I'm making

[plucky bone]

Yes I have one feeding a good size coal power plant.

[clear aspen]

Thier so good in 1.2, I never used them before then but now I use them all the time

[plucky bone]

Is 1.2 the experimental?

[clear aspen]

Ye

[feral vector]

should I automate some extra stators? I'm using them all to make motors

[tall lantern]

nah, they're not used directly for any building/equipment

[feral vector]

I'm on 1.1 and it worked way better than I thought it would to supply coal from far away

[plucky bone]

Ah. I'm just on vanilla. Wanna play this through then do some crazy rate changes and so on after I know most of the finer things.

[feral vector]

ok ty

saves me some time, maybe I can go work on the SAM situation while I stockpile motors

[simple pebble]

There's a component they're needed for later, but the use cases for it are specific enough that you might not want to automate them there anyway

[feral vector]

I already have so many motors lol... at least for where I'm at relative to the milestones and stuff

the benefit of being slow is things stockpile while I'm screwing around learning how the game works

so on my power grid, is max consumption telling me what's the highest consumption I've ever had, or is it saying what the highest would be if all my machines turned on at once?

[tall lantern]

the latter

ideally you want that below your production

[feral vector]

ah that's kinda cool it calculates it for you