satisfactory

[next ivy]

and power storage

[bleak valley]

The first 10,000 run

1pm of every item

[next ivy]

bit too muhc

[bleak valley]

[empty spoke]

well thats obv not the goal, i just wanna roughly know how much computers i would need to not have to wait 5 months to craft the final recipe

and without having to craft a second computer factory

and that for every resource, not just computers

[fickle wraith]

I keep getting irradiated even if theres nothing radioactive nearby

i dont have any uranium in my inventory

im like 3 kilometers away

[molten vessel]

Wait.

Are the weird rocks with green clouds radioactive?

[bleak valley]

Yeah

[molten vessel]

…Huh.

Okay, now I understand why wandering up to those hurt. Was very confused.

[next ivy]

wat

theyre gas

[bleak valley]

Oh those green rocks

There are multiple green rocks

[next ivy]

the clouds are green

not the rocks

[bleak valley]

I just woke up gotta give me a minute lol

[molten vessel]

What are the green cloud rocks, then? Poison?

[ornate saffron]

yup yoiull need pipe bombs found in the mam

[next ivy]

unnamed dangerous gas

[molten vessel]

Ah, I see, Painionide

[leaden turret]

farts

[near mural]

bombs or a gas mask made of mycelia

[next ivy]

poopensharten gas

[molten vessel]

To be honest, my first guess was some kind of Dung Beetle-esque bug colony

[topaz shale]

And by "efficient" I mean ratio it and hope for the best.

Yes

[near mural]

i know centeralization isnt great but im so tempted to route oil products and bauxite to my current biggest factory because it would look so cool with some expansions

[molten vessel]

Wait, why Centralization bad?

[empty spoke]

i centralized the whole map. just go for what ur having fun with

[topaz shale]

If it looks cool to do, do it. The rool of cool trumps all

[near mural]

im not too far into the game but from what i understand alot of things are better done at the site of the resource like oil, transporting oil then processing it seems alot harder than processing it then transporting it

[next ivy]

scale of centralization matters

[ornate saffron]

its kicks your Computers ass from a performance standpoint.

But more importantly it requires a lot fore thought and planning and becomes a logistics nightmare quickly

[molten vessel]

Hmm. I don’t see that as being all that different, but alright

[next ivy]

whole map, probably bad
1-2km radius, probably good

[bleak valley]

I’m restarting

[molten vessel]

As someone playing on a Steamdeck, I should probably care about this, yes.

[near mural]

its not a realization i came to just somethinge ive been hearing from people who know more than me

[bleak valley]

It’s the difference between transporting 1800 of something per minute that stacks in a low amount or 900 of something that stacks double the raw material(this is a random example)

[topaz shale]

Oh very much so. I'm starting another playthrough on the deck and luckily I don't care about massively scaled constructions.

[empty spoke]

did anybody notice that the world border is actually not a rectangle

[near mural]

where did you do this and how? im only just now starting aluminum but i cant imagine thatd be easy later into the game

[ornate saffron]

the game only renders what you can see. The rest is background math.

its easier for your computer to NOT render. So walls help

[empty spoke]

im strongly annoyed by that

[molten vessel]

I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how well this game runs on Deck with fairly high graphics settings!

[empty spoke]

now my base has to be round

[topaz shale]

Before the console update, I played a little on the deck and the changes from then and now are staggering. They did such an amazing job at increasing the performance

[bleak valley]

Chat where should I start my second save

I did rocky desert the first time

[molten vessel]

I just picked it up when I was getting Deep Rock Galactic, and saw a bundle that added in this game too

[ornate saffron]

glad to here that. My laptop holds up well until my save gets around 1mb or so

[molten vessel]

Are the maps not generated? Is there an actual premade map for each location?

[bleak valley]

It’s one map

[molten vessel]

Aww…

[jagged nymph]

all of the spawn locations are on the same map, and the entire thing is completely hand crafted

[bleak valley]

You just choose which part to start in

[jagged nymph]

and the map is pretty massvive

[bleak valley]

It is huge

[molten vessel]

Wait, do we always spawn in the same spot if we pick the same location? I could swear I haven’t

[bleak valley]

No it’s a little random

Puts you in that general Biome

[molten vessel]

Okay, whew.

Are the crashed pods generated?

[bleak valley]

Nothing is generated

[ornate saffron]

its a spawn area. when selecting the Grasss fields this tim it put me on the edge of the purple forest

[ornate frost]

Entire map is handcrafted... and its fantastic

[bleak valley]

Every thing was hand placed

[jagged nymph]

the only thing in the game that is random is the little rocks with ores (not the nodes, just those little rocks that you cna mine for like 20 of some random ore)

[bleak valley]

The game would be kinda hard with randomized maps the things you need just might not be in the right spots to use easily

[vestal dome]

Are there any hard drive recipes that I should prioritize?

[molten vessel]

Do we ever gain terraforming ability, or are we powerless against random stones sticking out of the ground?

[bleak valley]

The stones will always beat us

[jagged nymph]

you get bombs by researching sulfur in the mam, which can destroy the rocks which are cracked, but anything else you cant remove

well you can remove trees n stuff

[molten vessel]

Dang

I was hoping for Valheim levels of terraforming at least, XD

[bleak valley]

Trees, cacti, bushes and such

[next ivy]

you can destroy most foliage and trees, gas rocks, and cracked rocks
sadly cant blow up ore nodes

[jagged nymph]

btw you should absolutely research stuff in the mam. It seems like an extra feature with some kinda cool stuff but some of it is very necessary for a good experience

[void cliff]

I want to make a playthrough where I focus on infrastructure before putting a lot of work into factories. Could spend 1000 hours on infrastructure, lol

[molten vessel]

I either haven’t unlocked the Mam yet, or don’t know what that is…

[jagged nymph]

what tier are you on

[next ivy]

mam is very early on

[molten vessel]

I’m 1>2

[jagged nymph]

its one of the first things you unlock in tier 1

[molten vessel]

Just got the game yesterday evening

[jagged nymph]

if you have the map unlocked you have the mam unlocked. If not, go to the hub and unlock it. Place one down (its under the "special" category in the builder) and research what you can

[molten vessel]

Or maybe two days ago, but only started it up yesterday? One of those

[jagged nymph]

the most important one is power slugs, and then probably caterium is the second most important

oh and quartz

[bleak valley]

Alien tech is also very nice

[jagged nymph]

and sulfur is important too

[jagged nymph]

oh yeah alien tech is very important

[bleak valley]

It’s all important really

[molten vessel]

I think I’ve gotten the first two, no Quartz yet

[bleak valley]

You gotta find some of the materials to be able to research them

[jagged nymph]

once you get the mam just research as much stuff as you can

[molten vessel]

How often do they add new content?

[jagged nymph]

not super often but there is a new major upddate releasing this month on experimental, and then the full release soon after

[molten vessel]

Or is there a good modding scene?

[bleak valley]

Pretty good modding scene but updates are coming

[jagged nymph]

yeah, tons of mods including a great full overhaul mod called satisfactory+

[bleak valley]

There is a big mod that overhauls the entire game

[leaden turret]

about once or twice a year, b ig modding scene

[bleak valley]

Even base game is a lot to do though

I have 100 hours and I’m not very far

[molten vessel]

…Is the modding scene dev supported, or will I have to beat my head against applying mods on Deck…?

[ornate saffron]

nope, Terraforming is on the list of "things that will never be added" they did a whole Youtube video on it

[ornate saffron]

mods on windows are easy, Deck.... no clue

[jagged nymph]

its super easy. Download satisfactory mod manager, click install on the mods you want, and launch the game

oh yeah idk if it supports the deck

yeah idk about that

[molten vessel]

I fear

Hope it’s not bad.

[gritty epoch]

It does i play with mods on deck

[jagged nymph]

satisfactory mod manager supports linux yeah

[near mural]

is there a cmd or setting to change the time of day?

[next ivy]

i hunger

[next ivy]

command apparently

[jagged nymph]

you can use the skyui mod

[gritty epoch]

I play satisfactory on steam deck while at work with about 5 mods and get 45fps till tier 7 then finish the game on 30fpd

[jagged nymph]

i bet theres a command but skyui is easy

[near mural]

skyui? like skyrim skyui? 😭

[next ivy]

apparently

[molten vessel]

How soon can I get a better method of travel?

No run button brings me sadness

[next ivy]

you can run

[bleak valley]

The sprint is a toggle

[cosmic adder]

How much does 4, normal mk2 miners can fuel power gens?

[molten vessel]

I can’t figure out what button does that, I guess

[cosmic adder]

32?

[near mural]

left shift

[molten vessel]

(Steamdeck)

[near mural]

ohh

[cosmic adder]

check binds

[jagged nymph]

you get a tractor fairly soon

[next ivy]

how good are the nodes under the miners

[next ivy]

check wiki for fuel consumption numbers

[cosmic adder]

normal, so 120 each

[molten vessel]

Wait, a Tractor is my travel option?

[next ivy]

cause the game tells you jack shit about that

[molten vessel]

Not like, a dune buggy?

[jagged nymph]

it goes about 50kph

[bleak valley]

It’s not a real tractor

[jagged nymph]

there is a dune buggy too yes, but its later in the game

[molten vessel]

That’s kinda funny

[next ivy]

you get the "explorer"

but ziplines are just straight up better

[molten vessel]

Obviously I should just make Conveyor Roads everywhere I wanna go

[next ivy]

only way i would know how to figure out coal consumption of a coal generator is by putting a belt reader in front of it

[jagged nymph]

please dont

[molten vessel]

When do I get Conveyor Belts wide enough to drive on?

[next ivy]

never

you would have to put multiple next to each other

[bleak valley]

A basic coal gen takes 15 coal per minute I think

[molten vessel]

Curse you Perry the Platypus!!!

[next ivy]

but thats easy with blueprints

[bleak valley]

If you overclock I have no idea

[jagged nymph]

why would you even want to drive on belts

[bleak valley]

Extra speed

[jagged nymph]

does that even work?

[molten vessel]

To stack movement speed increases, however minor!

[bleak valley]

You can make moving sidewalks with belts

[jagged nymph]

i dont think belts speed up vehicles anyway

[bleak valley]

And it does stack speed very quickly

[glad drum]

They don't and it's very sad.

[bleak valley]

Especially if you slide jump

[glad drum]

You know what DOES work with vehicles? Jump pads.

[ornate saffron]

🎵 Conveyor roadsssssssss, Where dawn goesssss, Back tooooooooo, where she belongsssssssssss. blue water crator, to the grasslands. Back to my hubm Oh Conveyor raods

[cosmic adder]

No, ik some ppl knows about whats needed..these belt readers are hard to get rn

[molten vessel]

(Is this another one of those situations where people assume I’m a girl named Dawn?)

I don’t mind if so, this is not the first time.

[jagged nymph]

well people call me a350 or python when my username was python hater but i dont thing they think thats my name lol

[molten vessel]

Just makes me think of the time my Dota buddies were shocked when I got on voice chat

[ornate saffron]

i just vibed it while singing country roads. no thought went into it lol

[bleak valley]

If you wanna goes faster on flat or downhill terrain: sprint,slide,jump then when you hit the ground slide jump again

[molten vessel]

First step, figure out what button on the Steamdeck is sprint

[bleak valley]

Settings should tell you

[near mural]

i really dont wanna stick around in the grass fields but ive had sm fun decorating my factory since getting the hoverpack i feel like im not dont with it 😭

[bleak valley]

Most likely click a stick in

[next ivy]

• exoskeleton
• zipline
• parachute

best early game exploration combo

[molten vessel]

Once I’m back home I’ll take a glance

[bleak valley]

You can always return later!

[near mural]

thats true

it isnt going anywhere anytime soon

[bleak valley]

I was flying last night with the jet pack and zip line I would jump off the power tower line and place another while using the pack to keep my momentum then land back on the line and repeat

[molten vessel]

I knew how to crouch, still gotta see about running.

Not sure if crouching makes me sneaky or something? I never spot a critter first anyhow

[jagged nymph]

when you get back your factory wil have been eaten by stingers

[bleak valley]

I think crouching is for fitting under stuff but I’ve never used it once

[next ivy]

i place towers from the last tower, just to have better control

[near mural]

is there any nice way to go to red bamboo fields from grass fields? i still havnt been able to find any natural way up

[jagged nymph]

i slide under belts

[spice osprey]

when I play games like that, I main support, and most support characters are pretty girls, so I've been called an e-girl multiple times

[ebon cobalt]

so i just made a hypertube cannon using a branch to actually leave it but i cant interact with it for some reason
my other cannon built the same way works fine
(playing on steam deck)

[bleak valley]

You can get a bit more reach if you move away

[near mural]

ill unlock the nuke nobelisk just for them

[bleak valley]

I slide a lot but basic crouching no

[molten vessel]

Yeeeeaah, fellow Deckster

[next ivy]

id rather have control

[jagged nymph]

yeah if you crouch near an enemy not in their line of site they doint see you. And with those bee nests, you can crouch up to them and even hit them and kill them without releasing the bees

[next ivy]

the material isnt an issue

[ebon cobalt]

:3
this game drains battery so fast lmao

[molten vessel]

Noted, I’ll stick to less intense games when away from home.🫡

[ebon cobalt]

if you click the three dots and go to the performance tab it will tell you how long the current% will last based on how intensive the game is <3

[jagged nymph]

nah its based on how fast youre discharging the battery currently and makes an estimate of how much longer it will last at that rate

[ebon cobalt]

oh that makes more sense
still a great feature though :3

[jagged nymph]

my laptop is like: 3 hours remaining
opens literally any game: 15 minutes remainging

[ornate saffron]

same

[glad drum]

you need to upgrade your power grid

[jagged nymph]

my laptop pretty much needs to stay plugged in to do anything

[last mason]

Mine lasts 45 mins then dies

[jagged nymph]

and it has a 90Wh battery 😭 (thats big if you dont know)

[last mason]

On windows it lasts 15 lol

[ornate saffron]

@molten vessel For moding the steam deck id ask the Modding Discord. you can find the link in #welcome

I sure you already know this though :p

[molten vessel]

I hadn’t, actually.

Thanks!

[ornate saffron]

laptop battery size is limnited as they always assume you wana be able to take it on a plane

[jagged nymph]

?

[ornate saffron]

i highly sugggest reading rules and #welcome and pins for channels....

I havent been banned for puns .....yet

[last mason]

There is a power outlet in each economy seat btw (in air nz)

[ornate saffron]

there is flight retriction for battery size on planes

[jagged nymph]

no i thought the limit was just if it was in the baggage compartment below

wait lemme look it up

[unkempt blade]

You just have to explain to them that you're actually carrying on power storage and not batteries. It's a common source of confusion

[jagged nymph]

ah its limited to 100Wh and anything 101-160 requires airline approval and are limited to 2 pr passengar and anything more than 160 is completely prohibited

[ornate saffron]

ya, some places restrict to a max of 90. Hence why laptops usually have 90wh batteries

[jagged nymph]

makes sense

[ornate saffron]

i wish more of them were hot swapable though. It would be nice to be able to by a 180wh battery for general everyday use

this is the worst timeline

[jagged nymph]

there is that framework company

with the modular laptops

[ornate saffron]

true, but it used to be normal

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

i could rant for days though lol

how fairs your world. Whats your current project

[unkempt blade]

I'm still pretty amazed how long my fairly recent macbook can run on a single charge. Granted I'm not playing games/watching videos for the most part

[jagged nymph]

so far ive only put like 4hrs into it but i just finished up my starter factory which makes
iron plate: 120
iron rod: 120
rotor: 16
reinforced plate: 10
wire: 480
cable: 120

next im gonna finish up phase 1, setup coal power, and begin the megafactory

[cosmic adder]

Where are photo i took w ingame camera? I cannot find it

[ornate saffron]

search for factory game in windows exporer

somewher in this discord there is a file path

[cosmic adder]

Yeah, its in eng..my PC aint

so it doesnt read

[ornate saffron]

ah file path is in #faq

[cosmic adder]

yeah ik

Didnt work, as i said

[fluid sapphire]

there should be a button in the menu to open the folder

[ornate saffron]

i dont understand this statement. Please rephrase

[spice patio]

Works with any language Windows.
But cannot be searched, needs to be put into the actual address bar as is.

[cosmic adder]

the "path" is in english. MY PC is not, and its tryna look my language, it cannot find folder

[spiral summit]

this game is intentionally torturing and horrifying me

[zenith pecan]

The file path is written in english, his pc is not, the path will reflect a different languahe.

[spiral summit]

why are there 3 toxic spiders running after me

[spice patio]

That %Localappdata% is generic macro that works in any language.

[spiral summit]

and another 2 REGULAR LARGE STINGERS

im atomising the whole red forest

[ornate saffron]

they see. they murder.

they do the same to all non spiders. You are not special

[spiral summit]

nah forget the hard drives

[spice patio]

The whole point of that is to abstract everything away, including user language.

[spiral summit]

im researching atomic bombs

whats the best inhaler i should farm

considering you cant automate it

[zenith pecan]

After spamming nukes, imho, they're not worth it, go with clusters instead.

[cosmic adder]

Well it doesnt find any ss..even if i took it

[ornate saffron]

they are all the same just different build costs

[real shale]

is there a specific setting or something to ensure that lighting from the likes of flood lights blends in better rather than showing very clear cut lines of rays like this?

#screenshots message

[spice patio]

Ah, the FAQ location for screenshots is wrong.
It is still the Pre 1.0 one...

Current one is: %LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\Screenshots

[ornate saffron]

the light controller can adjust intensity

[spiral summit]

to kill 3 oversized toxic gas spewing spiders?

[real shale]

yeah but no matter what intensity i set it at, it has those very abnormal lines

[cosmic adder]

Thanks!! Found it

[ornate saffron]

<@&370483737957236737> updates needed please

[spice patio]

And that works with any language Windows.
The other one would have worked in any language Windows 10/11 too, where the actual is always Documents, just translated for display to user language.

[fluid sapphire]

there should be a big button that says "OPEN SCREENSHOTS FOLDER" when you have photo mode open

[zenith pecan]

Worked well enough the last time I bombed spiders into oblivion.

[spice patio]

Yup. That too.

[spare prism]

I need math help, if i have 120, 120, 120, 120, 75, 75 ore intake how mant smart plates can i make

[real shale]

even at like 20% intensity theres the abnormal lighting

[cosmic adder]

Didnt see anything like it

[ornate saffron]

go to #design-and-architecture and search for image and lighting and see if anyone has something more inline with what you want. then ask them

Im kinda useless here

[spiral summit]

oh ok

[next ivy]

use a tool

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[spare prism]

Well I already tried and idk how to use and I asked people in here for help
With that but they said they don't use it

Also the tool is unhelpful

[next ivy]

well, theres many tools

[fluid sapphire]

start from a target number, its easier

[spare prism]

Not helpful

[fluid sapphire]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=IwdG25ERUXJcQxXiGwAt

[next ivy]

27

[glacial drum]

I’d suggest learning to use the tools. Can’t always have discord help

[next ivy]

theyre blocking fucking links

https://factoriolab.github.io/sfy/list?o=iron-ore*630**1&o=smart-plating*630**2&v=11
@spare prism

[glacial drum]

Use the math and meta channel to send it if needed

I’ve been dreading it but I think it’s finally time to make my final factory

Final factory for a project *

[spare prism]

Yea but I'm combining nodes

[next ivy]

same reasoning
no difference

[river marsh]

can pipe junctions automatically connect to refinery pipe inputs if placed close to each other?

[glacial drum]

Just don’t go over the amount of input you can sustain

[glacial drum]

No, however, they can be placed on an existing pipe.

GOOD GOD HOLY HELL

[spare prism]

Also I'm using what I have available to make max amount I can that's why I have ore counts I just need to know max amount of smart plates I can make from that

[glacial drum]

They went off when I loaded my save dude

[proven snow]

BOOM

[glad drum]

Hot Take: Spaghetti builds are more beautiful and inspiring than neat circuitboard builds. They're generally more creative, have more personality and are more fun.

Embrace spaghetti today.
#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

set iron input limit to whatever you have total, then disable the recipe for reanimated sam

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=37mT86jKKU0VXNIGPnq0

use maximize mode

[ornate saffron]

satisfactory tools pinned in #math-and-meta is pretty easy to use. there is a tab for inputting specific ore or you can add parts. it also has a robust FAQ and its own discord. im sure they can provide all the resources you need if you are struggling

[mystic oriole]

What's your most embarasing moment of realization you've been doing something completly wrong, or that there was a much easier way of doing something?

Mine was finding out that Hypertubes was 2 way.

[spare prism]

Where

[fluid sapphire]

its already set to maximise in the link i sent

[ornate saffron]

i spent hours looking for zipline wire not realizing it was removed

[glad drum]

When I realized I could just clip things through terrain and other buildings

[fluid sapphire]

there are two modes, items per minute OR maximise

[mystic oriole]

those are awesome. I love that! This game is awesome.

[spare prism]

Yea idk how to use this site

I put iron ore in and plates but it's not showing what I need

[fluid sapphire]

its just about the simplest production planner that exists

[spare prism]

I think it's broken

[fluid sapphire]

screenshot what you are seeing?

[spare prism]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=DhDvoSkvLSF8vLgYCeY1

I got it but now i just have 35 ore going nowhere

[cosmic adder]

How do i rotate only a bit, while also snapping to fundation (the onther fundation), it just doesnt work

[fluid sapphire]

you dont "produce" iron ore

[cosmic adder]

nvm, i can nudge lol

[fluid sapphire]

you can set limits for raw resource inputs in the input tab

[velvet thorn]

When I realized that my friends would dismantle my factory for lower production, just because they want to understand what is going on in it

[spare prism]

Oh I see I removed iron ore and I got it now

[fluid sapphire]

also dont put the smart plating into the input

you are not putting it in, you are producing it

[mystic oriole]

Annoying friends is part of the growth. Right?

[spare prism]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=aMVpa7HgHMgQQvD1Naob
isnt this what i want

[fluid sapphire]

its very very simple, production tab for what you want to produce, input tab for limiting raw resources or for inputs of other items from other factories, recipes for recipes you want

you have set 10 smart plating as input that are routed directly into the output

that implies that you are basically producing these elsewhere and merging them into this production

[spare prism]

Oh I just cleared it

Oh so I can only make 27 per min

[fluid sapphire]

with these recipes yes

[spare prism]

Well that’s good news I was making 6 before

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need a lot

[spare prism]

I have only copper rotor unlocked but that takes 195 nails per min and I only have mk2 belt

[spare prism]

I need 50k

I playing with a multiplayer

[fluid sapphire]

ah, ok

well i avoid screws altogether past the very early game

[spare prism]

So it’s 50x1000

🙂

[fluid sapphire]

gg

[spare prism]

im already at 6k

but i wanted to up my production bc google said it would take 5 days to complete at 6 per min

[next ivy]

#satisfactory message

[spare prism]

It will take approximately 5 days, 18 hours, and 53 minutes to reach 50,000 units at a rate of 6 per minute

[fluid sapphire]

is this your first time playing this game?

[spare prism]

no

[ornate saffron]

he is doing a modded challenge run tho

[fluid sapphire]

fair enough, wild multiplier :p

[spare prism]

118.8 hours past 2 weeks

i played the game that long

583 hrs on record
Currently In-Game
Satisfactory

I just bad at math

i failed math i got an F in class

[fluid sapphire]

just somewhat surprised you havent used tools up to this point

[spare prism]

i kept asking people to join me and they would build factorys while i mess with power lol

[ornate saffron]

i didnt know tools existed until i joined this discord in October. I had been playing since at least update 7

[spare prism]

vanilla game tho i would do math in my head bc its not hard but now im cobmining 7 nodes into one factory which puts a lot of numbers in my head and its about to have a meltdown

[ornate saffron]

i have a notepad on my desk and spreadsheets on my other monitor

[fluid sapphire]

i meant any sort of planners at all, not sftools in particular

[ornate saffron]

me too.

[next ivy]

then use a calculator

[spare prism]

I have 2 monitors too but im playing ona cloud device so its ahrd to alt tab out

[next ivy]

i also wrote down the numbers first

[fluid sapphire]

i would get nothing done without a tool to do the math for me

[spare prism]

can i make the website use certain belts

[ornate saffron]

i just did most of it in game on paper, or in spreadsheets lol Still do. Although i use tools to check my math now lol

[fluid sapphire]

even with sftools it took me weeks to plan out all of phase 4 production

[empty spoke]

do u guys know any tool/website where i can plan my megafactory visually? like infrastructures, streets, buildings etc

[fluid sapphire]

not this one, sftools is implementation detail agnostic

it cares not for clock speeds or belt limitations

those are for you to figure out, or use satisfactory modeler on steam

[spare prism]

i only have mark 2 unlocked so I would neeed to figure out how much i need to split up

thanks lol

now i gotta get to work

[next ivy]

excel ?

[ornate saffron]

exel paint and a notepad is my suggestion

[next ivy]

like, as a top down view

make the slots into cubes

[fluid sapphire]

just wing it

[ornate saffron]

graph paper is my ❤️

[fluid sapphire]

dont plan anything

[white dawn]

This might sound like a troll answer, but honestly: just use the game itself. Start a fresh AGS save with all the "creative-mode-ish" options enabled, slap together a couple blueprints, and see what actually fits. :)

[neon lantern]

Is iron pipe good

[ornate saffron]

if you have lots of iron yes

[elfin smelt]

or if you want to avoid using coal

[real shale]

okay, i am finally done with what i needed to do in blue crater until i eventually go "oh i need to make x, oh blue crater happens to be the most convenient spot for it" and come back here again

[ornate saffron]

i built my ACU factory there so i would use the resources and no do rocket fuel there this time lol

[south plume]

Hey guys any idea when the new game mode will be revealed?

[normal orbit]

17th mnarch

yes, mnarch, its a new month invented

[south plume]

Thank you

[magic glade]

I asked for building guide, someone obliged, Great thanks, OSA BLOCKED THE WEBSITE

[raven lance]

Interesting- I didn't know you could put wall outlets on the ceiling
Thats actually pretty useful

[normal orbit]

you can also place em on the floor

[glad drum]

Yes. Lot of alternate recipes use steel pipes and the world is flush with iron

[molten vessel]

Could someone tell me why my Biomass Burner’s Biomass reserves are dropping, but it won’t accept new Biomass from the Conveyors?

[lime kraken]

is there a way to cut the Personal Lift to the last entrance? if i try to dismantle the lift i only can dismantle the hole lift or the entrance

[real shale]

finally....golden nut statue

[molten vessel]

The conveyor belt used to be able to bring biomass in, but after I had to reset the circuit, it stopped?

[next ivy]

circuit 👀

implies mods ?

[molten vessel]

When you overdraw a power source, it breaks or something, and you have to reset the circuit?

[lime kraken]

maybe there is a wrong item somwere at the input (most time hidden in conveyor lift) use dismantle to check the Items inside a lift (dismantle materila reward)

[molten vessel]

No lifts, but could something be hidden in the intake of the Biomass Burner, blocking things after it?

[next ivy]

or a power switch that wasnt re enabled

or the connection from belt to burner just broke

[real shale]

oh wow i never noticed the "days since last incident" sign in the hub counting down the days its been since you last died lol

[next ivy]

only seen that happen on early game furnaces so far tho

[molten vessel]

I’ll dismantle the conveyor belt and rebuild it, I guess?

[lime kraken]

yes and you cant get the first item at the input you hafe to rebuild conveyor

[molten vessel]

Alright, it’s working again, XD

[real shale]

and the camera that follows you, wow, i cant get over the sheer detail in this game lmao

[weak bloom]

I caved and am doing rocket fuel there as we speak, I wanted to do it further to the east but that is so much more annoying to deal with bringing the resources in over there

[molten vessel]

It runs incredibly well even on Steamdeck on high settings, it’s nuts!

Things might slow down once I have tons of industry in one place, though

[ornate saffron]

it helps they made three versions of every asset. one high one low and the final was a general blob shape with some blury colour lol

[spiral summit]

my gambling mindset cannot resist clicking rescan

should i get the heavy oil residue + polymer resin alt recipe or gamble

[void cliff]

Runs better on steam deck when using dedicated server fwiw

[molten vessel]

I have noticed moonwalking- er, moonsliding critters now and then

[neon lantern]

Ok thank you

[jagged nymph]

you do know the eszett makes an s sound and not a b right

[ornate saffron]

locking the game to 30fps is VERY playable don;t listen to the 30 fps haters

[jagged nymph]

cause your usename says shblob but your display name is schloß

[molten vessel]

I’ll try it for a bit, see if I can take it.

[acoustic bear]

smooth 30 > choppy 45-60

[spiral summit]

my name is schloss

[weak bloom]

I do have like a multi-stage plan for blue crater lake though. I currently have 600 turbofuel being produced over there.
The issue is I'm using the byproducts of the turbofuel line to make both computers and various other components for the space elevator, and I don't want to have to ditch that.
AND the problem is the sulfur supply.
SO I HAVE A PLAN
I am building the facilities to make 2400 rocket fuel (to use one full pure oil node). I'm gonna enable it in sets of 25%.
after enabling the first set, I can turn off half the turbofuel production since the second line byproducts are just being sunk.
Then I have enough sulfur to enable lines 2 and 3.
Then I can route the compacted coal byproduct from the 3 rocket fuel lines to turbofuel, freeing up the sulfur for line 4.

Then I rework the turbofuel line to package it and not lose anything the byproducts are being used for.

[jagged nymph]

ok i didnt know cause the username is a b so its hard to tell

[spiral summit]

it was schlob where the b was greek beta but some guy kept calling me schloss so i changed it

[ornate saffron]

most of the time its frame stability that causes issues dropping form 60-40 for a moment is very noticible. but when you lock it to 40 you dont notice it at all

[inner ruin]

i dont understand why my biomass burner keeps stopping when its got fuel

[acoustic bear]

the game is much more CPU intensive anyways

[jagged nymph]

ive just seen alot of people misuse the eszett as a b lol so i didnt know

[ornate saffron]

does it need to be on?

if you have 10 biomass burners and 8 will supply your grid two will go on standby automaticly

[weak bloom]

Iirc biomass burner is the only type of generator that produces based on demand and isn't just always producing max output

[inner ruin]

i got the biomass burner attached to a sink. its attached to 2 poles cause of the distance. is that a problem?

[ornate saffron]

read the above comments

[inner ruin]

i did read it

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> is the golden nut statue secretly a gnutt statue?

[inner ruin]

if the biomass is attached to 2 poles will this affect it?

[deft drum]

No?

How do you get 2 poles into one burner?

[west salmon]

hello guys, I have a big Problem! My friend bought Satisfactory to play with me. I created a deticated Server but it works fine by me but by my friend the Server is offline. Can someone help? plssss!!!

[inner ruin]

oh wait detaching the assembler from the pole fixed the problem, but im not using the assemblerr

[west salmon]

help?

pls

[ornate saffron]

have you tried #dedicated-servers ?

[tall lantern]

if you're hosting on your machine or something in your network, make sure you've done all the necessary port forwarding in your router (dunno what those are, but think there's like 2 ports these days?)

[west salmon]

7777

[tall lantern]

and another, I believe

[west salmon]

okay

[inner ruin]

why does an idle assembler put it up 15mw

[reef basin]

idle machines need 0.1MW

[inner ruin]

it went from 30mw to 45mw when i attached it to the same pole as the sink

[tall lantern]

is that the max or actual consumption

[west salmon]

where do I see the public id?

[inner ruin]

max is 30, actual is 30 if the assembler is detached. actual is 45 if the assembler is attached

[west salmon]

?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-kitty-pussy-cat-gif-9431944348187876211

can someone tell me where i can see my public id?

[normal orbit]

i think you might be confusing max consumption with consumption

[inner ruin]

ill screenshot it

[sonic nova]

does anyone have a video that explains power that involes more than one production machine. i cant figure out how to connect all these machines. i thought that connecting all the power lines and poles would work but i think im missing something

[tall lantern]

it does indeed work. machine to pole, pole to other pole, etc

[drowsy kelp]

Each machine can have one line connected, each power pole can have 4, 7, or 10 depending on the mark

Power storages are one of the few (if only?) buildings that can connect to 2

[tall lantern]

in the early game you'll be chaining a lot of poles together because of that, you only really get 2 useful connections out of a mk1 since the other two will usually be connected to other poles

[normal orbit]

lights can be daisy chained too

[drowsy kelp]

So in practice that’s 2, 5, and 8 lines for machines because the power pole needs to connect to 2 other poles to both get power and continue the chain

Mk2 power poles are a must get as soon as they’re available imo

[tall lantern]

they are a very welcome upgrade

[near mural]

My power went out when i was abt to start actually planning my train station I think this is a sign😭😭

[normal orbit]

yes, blue line is max consumption, idle machine draws 0.1 so since you make 30mw and sue 30mw, fuse blows cause now its max 45 and use of 30.1

[mellow pewter]

I can't remember, were manifolds or load balancers more reliable for the coal power generators? It's a stupid question, I know, but it's been a while since I played.

[drowsy kelp]

Reliable?

[sonic nova]

so i have the mass burner connnected to 2 poles and the poles go right into 2 different machines but only one machine will turn on

[normal orbit]

makes no diffrence whatsoever for reliability

[tall lantern]

both are 100% reliable, as is any setup that has enough coming in and enough belt speed to support that

[inner ruin]

but it only went to 45mw after i attached the assembler so if an idle machine only draws 0.1mw where did the extra 15mw come from?

[drowsy kelp]

Does that second machine have a recipe set, all input items met, no clogged output, etc

[normal orbit]

an assembler draws 15mw

[inner ruin]

even if idle?

[drowsy kelp]

Max consumption is the theoretical maximum you would use if every machine on the grid was running at once

[normal orbit]

no

[mellow pewter]

Ok, thank you.

[wild hollow]

Anyone know if they are working on making dimensional storage sortable? The list is starting to become very long, even with pins xD

[sonic nova]

no but what ever machine i plug in first is the only machine that will turn on

[normal orbit]

it WILL draw 15 when in use, hence max consumption goes up to 45

[inner ruin]

oh so it estimates what it will be if i was using it

[drowsy kelp]

It’s not an estimate but yes

[normal orbit]

if you connect 10 assembler, max consumptions goes up by 150, but actual draw is only 1mw until they start producing

yes thats what max consumption is

the total draw possible of all machines

[inner ruin]

ah okay i did it wrong in my head 🤣

[normal orbit]

where consumption is what your machines are currently using

[inner ruin]

damn i wish i understood this before i connected 2 drills and 3 constructors to 1 biomass 😭

[tall lantern]

though it will be an estimate when you get to variable consumption stuff - they're funky, and you can see current > max there lol

[tall lantern]

that's fine, you know how to connect up stuff, so add moar biomass

[sonic nova]

i sent a screen shot the ones on the platform is what im trying to boot up but only one will turn on at a time depedning on which one gets wired first im so new to the game so its mostlikly very simple thing im not understanding

[normal orbit]

make more biomass, automate turning wood and leaves into biomass and then into bionuggies and a mk1 belt can feed 15 bioburners

[inner ruin]

oh i hope i get coal soon. im so done with leaves

[drowsy kelp]

It’s much better if you convert them to biomass first

Then solid biomass

[inner ruin]

yeah i did. i still wish i had coal tho 😂

[white dawn]

You'll get to the phase where you unlock coal once you finish your first Space Elevator delivery, btw. :)

[inner ruin]

someone said it has nuclear energy on here. true?

[white dawn]

One other thing which can help biomasswise is if you don't mind spending Alien Remains on it, you get a lot of biomass out of those

[white dawn]

Yes, nuclear power is one of the two "endgame" power options

Though technically either is optional; the power options you have in Phase 3 are good enough that you can build out sufficient power for your whole game with just those

[inner ruin]

can it explode?

[white dawn]

Though the Phase 4 options (Nuclear and ||rocket fuel||) are both easier to scale out than fuel/turbofuel

[white dawn]

No. The only "danger" is that there's ambient radiation from radioactive items, though that's trivially dealt with by protective gear that you unlock at the same time

[inner ruin]

ahh i see

[steep jewel]

anyone playing with controller on PC? have you had issues typing in text boxes while in controller mode?

e.g. naming a map marker or typing text for a sign

[molten vessel]

Funny, the game will tell you to take a break after two hours of play…

…even if I put my Steamdeck to sleep overnight and just opened it up again now, XD

[inner ruin]

i can promise you that is needed

i ignored it yesterday and spent 13 hours playing 😭

[west salmon]

I need help aigain so I cant play with my friend on dedicated servers is there a free method which works

[molten vessel]

Does this game not have multiplayer outside of dedicated servers?

[white dawn]

It does; no server is required

Should be able to connect either via session or by direct IP. AFAIK there's no browser or whatever, though; you've gotta sort of know who you're connecting to

[molten vessel]

Then couldn’t they do that…?

[white dawn]

Oh, hah, missed the post you were replying to. :D

But yeah, multiplayer is free

[molten vessel]

I had assumed as such when I told my Bro in law to get the game

[white dawn]

There are third parties you can pay to run dedicated servers for you, but you can also either run one yourself for free (assuming you have the technical knowhow and hosting for it), or just connect direct to someone's game (so long as it's configured to do so)

[fossil oyster]

What's the other endgame? Ionized?

[white dawn]

Rocket Fuel

Ionized is great for jetpack use (and presumably vehicle fuel) but it's actually not good at all for power-generation 'cause of the power required to make it in the first place, plus the amount of Rocket Fuel needed to make it. You're basically always better off just sticking with rocket fuel, if you're going the fuel-powered route

[inner ruin]

bro this stupid flying thing keeps flying through the space elevator

[ornate saffron]

sky manta. they are on a patrol. they like head pats

[inner ruin]

yea but idk how to get up there

[timber willow]

yeah ionized is only worth in jetpacks and and maybe drones depending on overall setup 100% agree

[ornate saffron]

Jet pack landing on space elevator for rests

[white dawn]

The Manta's got a 100% set flying path, btw. If you don't like the clipping you'll have to relocate your elevator. :)

[inner ruin]

can i perish it?

[white dawn]

Nope

[inner ruin]

aw cmon the elevator is in such a cool place

[white dawn]

(Could be there's a mod that could get rid of it but you monster etc. :D)

[sterile blade]

The manta picked the spot first :P

[inner ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/edgar-smile-men-in-black-vincent-d-onofrio-alien-gif-9360945

damn no gifs

[fossil oyster]

That's midgame to me

[ornate saffron]

Nitro rocket fuel is end game. \0/

[orchid zinc]

Say i have one layer of processing, and then i want to send it up one floor for construction, does it make sense to have half a logistics floor between those two floors for all the belts?

[ornate saffron]

Its a matter of choice. I like logistics floors

[orchid zinc]

i cant think of another solution, do you have one?

[fossil oyster]

Nitro Rocket Fuel is OP :(
No challenge at all

[jagged nymph]

neetro rocker fouel

[ornate saffron]

Its a matter of choice. I like logistics floors

[mystic oriole]

Anybody else like me, with a huge backlog of other games but you keep coming back to this one game?

[void cliff]

This game reminds me of the times I’ve seen train hobbyists who rent out an entire storefront just to build trains as a hobby 😄

[jagged nymph]

you said that twice

[ornate saffron]

Everyone

[ornate saffron]

That Happens when im working on the edge of the coverage area

[jagged nymph]

🤔

[void cliff]

How many foundations do you make them? 3-4 4m foundations?

[mystic oriole]

like seriously, I got well over 300 games on Epic, and another 200 games on steam. But... Satisfactory.

[ornate saffron]

12m tall. I like the space.

[zealous frigate]

Are pipes always annoying to use

[ornate saffron]

Build ladders to the sky deathbox to see how much space you got. Spoiler ||its alot||

[zealous frigate]

Cuz I can’t figure this out

[mystic oriole]

yes, they can

[void cliff]

I have done it, ladder all the way to the top from the tallest mountain. Took like an hour of just making ladders, then another 30 minute parachute ride and was able to explore the entire map by parachute lol

[cunning glade]

Low-key kinda sucks for me

Yeah I would've made 15k rocket fuel but also I would've used I think all the sulfur on the map

[ornate saffron]

ya, lots of space ^_^ so nicve tall logistics floor. s oyou can label, move and organize

[magic copper]

Ummm some quick help here? I got a bit excited when unlocking the explorer and went hunting spheres and such. Tried to mine a uranium rock, without thinking much and died with it in my inventory. What do I do to pick my items up without dying?

[cunning glade]

Pick it up be full health quickly drop it or delete it

Fun little mini game u made

What I've done in the past

My friend did the same thing lol

[magic copper]

I know😭 Can you delete things straight from the inventory?

[jagged nymph]

yes

[ornate saffron]

yes trash can bottom left

[magic copper]

Ait, wish me luck

[cunning glade]

Collect food on the way too ur body

[magic copper]

Got inhalers

Hope thats enough

[ornate saffron]

i keep meaning to get back to Rift breaker.

[cunning glade]

Should be just fine ye

[marsh ice]

Guys I want my factory to look cooler and more organized but I’m bad at building in satisfactory what should I do

[cunning glade]

Get good

[white dawn]

I mean, there are no more power generation options beyond your Phase 4 options, and the Phase 4 options are the ones most convenient for supporting your endgame builds. So I'm comfortable calling it "endgame"

[cunning glade]

That's a goodquestion tho

[white dawn]

Tutorial: biofuel. Early: Coal. Mid: Fuel/Turbofuel. End: Rocket/Nuclear

[cunning glade]

Logistics floors are super helpful for one

[coral marsh]

Endgame: ionized?

[marsh ice]

Yeah

Are there any foundations with conveyor ports

I forget

[cunning glade]

There's conveyer floor holes?

[normal orbit]

well phase 5 does have ficsonium

[coral marsh]

Uh, wall and floor holes?

[marsh ice]

Oh I’m a brick ok

[ornate saffron]

planning in advance helps.

for example lets say you need four belt lanes for incoming ore.

plan where they will go you can place conveyor poles or color the area to help.

then plan where the smelters will be and so on.

[cunning glade]

Lol

[coral marsh]

And belt stackers to go on the underside of foundations

[rocky sierra]

when is satisfactory 1.2 planned for? and what would they bring? do we know

[coral marsh]

Ik I already said thanks earlier for your med help, but thanks again man.

[marsh ice]

My aluminum factory is probs my favorite because most of the logistics is inside a building

So yeah thanks

[coral marsh]

Fluid truck is a thing

[white dawn]

Fisconium's not a power generation tier unto itself -- it's just there for folks who want to 1) Burn Plutonium but 2) Also still have "clean" power

[ornate saffron]

im on the edge of my cell service so things are loadiing out of order lol

[normal orbit]

true

[coral marsh]

Lol

[white dawn]

It arrives on Experimental on March 17. If you don't want to help them beta-test it then you'll have to wait at least a month or three after that for it to arrive on public

[cunning glade]

How much power do I get from 250 fully oced nuclear power plants

[spare prism]

Do not step outside the circle

[white dawn]

As to content, we do know a few things that will be coming (Fluid Trucks have been mentioned, the return of Rain as an atmospheric effect, etc), but I suspect that we don't know the majority of what will be there

[coral marsh]

You wanna see the two alt recipes for singularity cells from the t9 alts mod? One uses ficsonium

[ornate saffron]

omw ohome now ^_^ soon ill be back to the factory

[white dawn]

Eh, I honestly don't really care about mods in this game. :)

[cunning glade]

I has that mod so I do

[coral marsh]

Fair enough

[white dawn]

Feel free to share, but not really my cup of tea

[unkempt blade]

it's going to make liquid stuff even more perfect than it already was

[normal orbit]

1.562.500 mw

[coral marsh]

Fair

[coral marsh]

Gimmie a couple mins

[normal orbit]

dont think you'll have enough fuel rods to do that tho

[rocky sierra]

Do you think it's worth it to start over on experimental or should I wait for full release?

[ornate saffron]

you dont need to start over. Just backup your save

[coral marsh]

I'd say wait

[cunning glade]

That's how many I need too build if I did my math right I have like 34 uranium and plutonium and then 112 fics rods all a min

[rocky sierra]

I'm going to start over no matter what, just changes if I do it on experimental or full release

[unkempt blade]

make an AGS save and build the biggest factory cart skatepark ever until 1.2

[cunning glade]

Which I came in here too talk about how expensive power plants are too build

Cuz I'm gonna need a good production a min

[ornate saffron]

ah, well if you wana be helpful do experimental and report bugs as you find them ^_^

[real shale]

e'-e'

[magic copper]

It worked, no radiation by the crate, so I could delete the uranium from there Anything else fun I should do while I'm out here?

[unkempt blade]

but then there won't be any surprises when the real release happens 🙁

[untold zealot]

As I'm reaching mid-game, is there anything I should be careful about doing performance wise? I.e "Don't have more than 5 tractors or the FPS goes down the tubes" or "Don't make the belts too long as each object on them is a drain in the long run"?

[void cliff]

Kind of feel like making radar towers all over the map prior to routing train lines might help a lot

[cunning glade]

Oh yeah I forget u can like access that I don't die often so my b

[mystic oriole]

It does help some

[magic copper]

Hahah

[normal orbit]

34 uranium = 68 fully overclock, 112 ficsonium = 22.4 (112 ficsonium = 22.4 plutonium) = 89.6 = 181 Reactors, 2 not fully overclocked

[real shale]

Honestly the game is that well optimised that unless you go insanely overkill and pull a josh it's hard to get noticeable performance dips

[normal orbit]

also to make that plutonium you burn 50.4 uranium actually, in 100.8 reactors

[real shale]

on that note, we have josh to thank partially for that optimisation 🙏

[untold zealot]

'aight! I was just worried in case something might sneak up on me, and when I finally notice it'd be a nightmare to resolve

[coral marsh]

Uranium to plutonium is 2:1 isnt it? Someone told me what plutonium to ficsonium is but I forgor

[cunning glade]

Hmm I must've used the wrong wiki

[normal orbit]

which makes 214 reactors, 3 not at 250%

[cunning glade]

So annoying there a correct wiki and a misinformation wiki

[normal orbit]

no, depends on recipe. plutonium waste to ficsonium is 2:1 tho

[coral marsh]

Thanks

[cunning glade]

So u seem too be quite knowledgeable on this I'll prolly report back too u once I can start nuclear

Cuz I've got a tools build I wanna make sure is accurate and I'm how many power plants I'll need Soo it all actually works

I don't wanna make 224 singularity cells for no reason

[normal orbit]

50.4 U -> 22.4 Pu -> 112 Fisc is like the chain which makes most power. 1490GW

using other recipes result in less power overall

[cunning glade]

My loop only does 34u

Or chain

[normal orbit]

but can be appealing if you dont wanna make so much ficsonium

then you're not getting that amount of plutonium

unless you're making more uranium from bauxite

[cunning glade]

I have too get home

Too show u it's on my PC

Why can't tools sync across mobile and PC

Greeny please

[empty spoke]

guys those item counter label signs, are those actual structures or is it just a label sign customized somehow?

like when do i unlock them and what are they called?

[ornate saffron]

he gave you a import and export option. i just save it to my google drive

[normal orbit]

belt counters are actual items, and are in awesomeshop

[empty spoke]

is that maybe a t9 thing?

[normal orbit]

its a T1 thing

[ornate saffron]

you get them from the awesome shop

[normal orbit]

just need some tickets to unlock

[empty spoke]

uhm which page? i cant find it

[normal orbit]

should be in logistics

[empty spoke]

am i playing in the wrong version lmao

[ornate saffron]

t2

[empty spoke]

pretty sure im not overseeing it i dont get it

which section of the awesome shop? and any requirements to see it ? im t8

[ornate saffron]

awesome shop under logistics i think

[empty spoke]

ohhh i have to unlock it in the mam

[cunning glade]

Ik but if I could just make an account that syncs across platforms I'd be so happy

[empty spoke]

its called converyor throughput

[near mural]

I tbink you need quartz research

[empty spoke]

i was looking for a belt counter lmao

yea it needs crystal oscilators

[ornate saffron]

that requires like data hosting ewwwww enough things do that

[unkempt blade]

There are ways to do this between computers for sure. I'd think there might be for computer <=> mobile too

[zealous frigate]

For pipes do I just have to keep making like tall pillars to get enough head lift?

[tall lantern]

just use pumps

[normal orbit]

god no

[cunning glade]

I'm making 34 uranium and plutonium ik like half of the uranium gets used in some non fissel stuff I think

[zealous frigate]

The pump arent working

[cunning glade]

Idc

[normal orbit]

if you're using fertile uranium you aint getting 34 uranium rods

[tall lantern]

then they're misplaced or unpowered

[zealous frigate]

Maybe I’m just dumb and not using them right but idk

[real shale]

You've heard of Internet over Avian Protocol now get ready for Internet over Factory Cart Protocol, have the factory carts deliver your data packets for you

[zealous frigate]

Yea I’ll try moving them see if that works

[cunning glade]

Tools says I am tho

[tall lantern]

need one within the first 10m height of whatever's producing the fluid, then each one after that needs to be within 20m height of the previous.

if using mk2 pumps, replace 20m with 50m

[empty spoke]

anything that can go wrong when i build my first nuclear power plant directly at my base?

[normal orbit]

there is 2100 uranium on the map, the most you can use for fuel rods is 954.something when using fertile uranium resulting in like 22 fuel rods

[empty spoke]

like talking about going wrong where i have to start a new save file

[real shale]

It'll also give you an indicator of where to place consecutive pumps, place them just before the indicator

[cunning glade]

That's what happens

I think half gets used in fuel cells

The other half goes too some other recipe

[ornate saffron]

you l ikely dont want all that radiation at your main hub if that is your playstyle

[cunning glade]

I just know I have 34. Something of each uranium and plutonium

[empty spoke]

never built a nuclear power plant so no clue how it works yet, so i actually get radiated by it? isnt there like a hazard suit?

[tall lantern]

~nothing is unrecoverable

[normal orbit]

well counting backwards from ficsonium 112 = 22.4 plutonium rods

[cunning glade]

It's more of a rough draft too make sure I have enough resources left on the map

[ornate saffron]

ther eis you need that and a gas mask with iodine filters which are consumed

[normal orbit]

i kinda dont get why you'd use fertile to make less power tho

[cunning glade]

Tho I do have it set too maximize both plutonium and uranium fuel rods

[cunning glade]

I don't care about power

[tall lantern]

though dying without Keep Inventory or filters, and respawning at an irradiated hub would be a right pain

[cunning glade]

I'm already making 700-800gw

[empty spoke]

so its not too bad to have it at ur base?

[real shale]

Radiation at spawn

[empty spoke]

why ur saying i dont want it at my main base if theres a suit for it then

[cunning glade]

Tho I do worry I may come close too that a few of my builds use 100gw

[ornate saffron]

well youll always be burning filters in areas that are radiated .

[glad drum]

#screenshots message - as you can see, even I like making iron pipes (this is what I'll be using my iron for)

[normal orbit]

but you're doing more work on uranium step using diffrent recipes to refine some with fertile and some without to make the exakt same amount of plutonium as if you just made all uranium into 50.4 fuel rods

[real shale]

Reminder that the Devs literally had to enable god mod to use Josh's save file because there was that much radiation at spawn you just got spawn killed

[empty spoke]

is the range that critical?

[ornate saffron]

and if you loose inventory on death and you spawn point is radiated..... you may soft lock yourself

[cunning glade]

Man I just do as tools tells

[tall lantern]

why irradiate yourself for no reason when you can just build the nuclear stuff elsewhere. And also have to go out of your way to move stuff there over building closer to the more useful resources

[empty spoke]

you gotta consider im building a megabase, so i wont be too close to the power plant

[ornate saffron]

the largest radation field ive seen is one biome

[unkempt blade]

depends how much radioactive stuff you have there

[ornate saffron]

i think thats the limit

[empty spoke]

oh it grows with number?

[tall lantern]

the more radioactive stuff you have, the more radioactive it is yes

[empty spoke]

hmm that changes alot

[cunning glade]

I mainly just want a full loop with nuclear using fics and all the uranium on the map how much power it makes idrc

[real shale]

What's funny is that someone found an alternative way to softlock yourself but you have to go out of your way to do it

[empty spoke]

idk its a waste to not have it in the base, it looks way too cool

[ornate saffron]

power poles for hardcore mode

[real shale]

By putting your hub under the map and placing a TON of stuff at the spawn point so spawn outside of it and keep falling to your death

[tall lantern]

if you use the map on SCIM, or see other people who do, the radiation stands out lol. Here was mine from yonks ago
#screenshots message

[real shale]

Unless they fixed that, which would be ......funny

[empty spoke]

well thats quite big

im building on the east side of the map, basically the whole water is my base idk if i can place it smart enough to not be affected

or if having filters 24/7 is the way

i can just place my hub out of the area

and restock filter when i die

[real shale]

I'm actually on my way to automate filters at the moment before I even touch nuclear

[empty spoke]

do all items that are connected to the power plant produce radiation or is it only the uranium ore?

[tall lantern]

it's the uranium and the stuff the uranium makes, generally

[empty spoke]

so all of the cool structures i assume

[tall lantern]

including the nuclear waste, as the main offender

[real shale]

There's also varying tiers of radiation, plutonium waste for example is the most radioactive item by stack iirc

[empty spoke]

does transporting uranium in trains also produce radiation? or only exposed uranium?

[real shale]

Yes

[tall lantern]

anything radioactive anywhere

[real shale]

Anywhere uranium goes, the radiation follows

[proven snow]

Items made from radioactive stuff is gonna be radioactive all the time basically

[empty spoke]

damn so im having a driving death bomb that circles around my whole map

[tall lantern]

seems bad design, but you do you

[real shale]

Although, I'm not sure about fuel rods for drones and stuff, I don't know if those are radioactive for the duration it's powered by the rod or only when it's holding it

[tall lantern]

at least trains move fast so you wouldn't be irradiated by it for toooo long

[proven snow]

I like to encase my uranium trains in tunnels to block the radiation (it doesn't actually block it, but feels more realistic to me)

[empty spoke]

can you also have too much radiation? like a point where filters dont help anymore?

[tall lantern]

no, it caps out

[real shale]

No, it only affects the speed you drain your filters

[empty spoke]

then im good to go ig?

[proven snow]

Don't think so no. They just deplete faster with a lot of radiation

[empty spoke]

cant be too bad

[real shale]

Anyone know the answer to this btw, I'm curious

[spring walrus]

Replaying this game again, setting up aluminium is the biggest difficulty spike of the game.

[tall lantern]

at max radiation you burn through a filter every 12s

[empty spoke]

why do people say that i dont get it?

[ornate saffron]

rods are radioactive

[spring walrus]

Getting all those plants to not have too much fluid, and not too little.

[empty spoke]

i had much harder times setting up HMF etc

[real shale]

Yeah but I mean, when you put them into a drone

And it "uses" it

[tall lantern]

easy when you realise you don't have to mix fresh and waste water

[real shale]

Does it stay radioactive for the duration it's powered by that rod

[near mural]

Im around aluminum rn its not the production line thats hard for me its getting the resources in one spot

[spring walrus]

Well because the plants give water, so you have to recycle it back, and place valves so it doesn't overflow.

[neon lantern]

Let’s game it out ahh factory 😭😭😂

[empty spoke]

okay so i basically want to fully setup the power plant before i even start up a single uranium miner

[tall lantern]

except you don't have to recycle them into the same pipes

[empty spoke]

cant relate idk

[spring walrus]

Well you have to use it somehow, you can't throw it away.

[tall lantern]

correct

[steep jewel]

you can also just place a goal generator to use up the excess water

[ornate saffron]

most people lik,e the swamp for there first power plant as it has a little of everything in the biome for it and most ppl donmt like that biome anyways

[real shale]

Valves cause more problems than they solve, I'd avoid them when you can

[empty spoke]

the output of 3 refineries replaces 1 water extractor and thats it

[near mural]

Underclock your water extractors to only how much is needed

[spring walrus]

yeah i use valves

[tall lantern]

I don't have the concrete numbers, but say your stuff needs 300 and makes 120 byproduct. You make one group that use 180 water, fed by extractors. You make another group that uses 120, fed only by the waste

[drowsy kelp]

Valves instead of underclocking?

[tall lantern]

pipes don't have to be combined in the first place

[empty spoke]

well megafactory here so yea..

[near mural]

I havnt touched valves tbh

[real shale]

The valve numbers aren't accurate, they don't restrict the flow to the value you set them at

[spring walrus]

Maybe people misinterpreted me, its up and running, but I think it is the biggest difficulty spike.

[empty spoke]

idk can only totally disagree for my side

[normal orbit]

they do, valves were fixed in 1.0

[ornate saffron]

a choice lol you do you. But i would build radioactive power elsewhere

[spring walrus]

Yeah easier to control in the same location.

[real shale]

They don't, they are still restricted by that integer limit afaik, at least from the last time I looked at it

[near mural]

Hmf armt that hard imo jst a long production line not much diffrent than computers

[empty spoke]

yea but definitely not easier than aluminium in my perspective

[normal orbit]

i've used them extensively to rate limit input pipes. they work 100% fine

[empty spoke]

it takes so much longer and what is really hard in the game? its all just long productions at the end of the day

[real shale]

It's better for aluminium to have refineries using up only the waste water rather than combining the fresh and waste water, otherwise the fluids end up bouncing off each other

[drowsy kelp]

What’s the point of rate-limiting them

[near mural]

I have yet to setup a real aluminum setup but using alt recipes to cut silica makes me think it wont be hard

[normal orbit]

like reusing waste water on aluminium. 120 in, 100 out, add 20 to the loop

[spring walrus]

I got it working with recylced water. I guess it's also a challenge :P

see #screenshots

[empty spoke]

never had this problem or never noticed it idk

[real shale]

Yeah, recycling the water directly makes it really finicky

And you end up having to do trial and error sometimes to get it to work

[tall lantern]

It can certainly be done, but it's not necessarily stable unfortunately

even when it should be

[real shale]

Yeah the problems don't show immediately that's the problem

[normal orbit]

its very stable

[real shale]

You might think it's okay now

[empty spoke]

i always mixed it until now

[real shale]

But overtime it has a tendency to break

[empty spoke]

been running for days and its fine

[normal orbit]

my aluminium plants always use that setup, not a single issue in a thousand hours

[spring walrus]

yeah, I have to throw an equation into the valve to get it to precisely cut enough water xD

[normal orbit]

41 blenders processing 12300 bauxite into 24600 scrap

[real shale]

Only reason to really use valves honestly is for priority junctions, otherwise the principle of keeping it simple works out best, but I'm fairly certain valves still have that value accuracy issue

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message boo! scary

[empty spoke]

tbh i never bother to look inside of my pipes, i just make sure to match the numbers that my machines expect and let it run, worked 10/10 times until now

[normal orbit]

pipe ui is very misleading

[empty spoke]

like pipes always having really weird throughput that i cant decipher

[real shale]

Yeah until cobalt taught me not to mix waste water and fresh water, aluminium was always finicky, like it'll work initially and then I'd start noticing my points drop in the sink and realise it'd clogged for the 100th time

Because it would very slowly clog the pipes from the fluid bouncing

[old urchin]

well, was building with a hoverpack, over a cliff, wich was turned off since I didnt have power at that part of my productuion, and fell down the cliff and died, loosing all my stuf including my jetpack wich I didnt switch to in time, when I tried to recover it, died again becouse of void, now I have 2 deth crates in the void, can I recover them or are they gone forever?

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message this just runs and runs and runs. no hiccups

[spring walrus]

The issue is when you let it stall. Then it goes to sht. Thats why I make sure it keeps running by throwing away the overflow into a sink. Need the tickets anyway :P

[empty spoke]

anyone having giant centralized train stations that i can get inspired from? thinking of building one under my megafactory, like a underground subway or some

[drowsy kelp]

If you still have a hoverpack build a wall into the void with wall outlets bringing power down with you then go slowly and carefully

[real shale]

Honestly throwing it into a sink for me has always been inconvenient, means I have to add canisters into the mix and I'd rather have the feedback loop run perfectly than add that layer of logistics to it

[empty spoke]

you could upload ur map to scim and move the crate to a accessable place

[real shale]

Unless I need the byproduct elsewhere

Which with water it's......it's everywhere so

[old urchin]

but the void will still demage me, no?

[drowsy kelp]

It’s not an insta-death until a certain point

You have plenty of health

[real shale]

Oh do you mean sinking the actual ingots? @spring walrus

I've been doing that, it was the water that would always clog prior to me having my revelation

[spring walrus]

yeah so the refineries dont stall, causing the fluids to overflow

[real shale]

It's not that, that was causing the fluids to overflow

It was my fluids bouncing off each other when mixing fresh and waste

Which caused it to overtime fill up because the fluids weren't able to get where they wanted to go quickly enough

[spring walrus]

valves fix that :)

because the valves are only one way

[old urchin]

i took quite a bit to respawn so it might be kinda beyond saving I dont know, I might just turn it off on the map and let it be, I can replanish the Items

[real shale]

That doesn't fix the bouncing issue

[old urchin]

feels like cheeting

[real shale]

You are still putting two inputs into a single junction

The fluids are bouncing either way

[empty spoke]

well it is

but im fine with fighting bugs with cheats

my morals allow that for myself

[spring walrus]

Yeah but hardly a problem since its all within a small piece of tube if you do it right

[old urchin]

bugs shure, but this was done by my stupidity

[empty spoke]

so my plan for the train system is to have that one specific circle around the whole map, i think yall know which circle i mean, if i wanna have like 20 trains or smth running on that circle, should i make several circles? or is 1 enough and i can just time all trains so they dont collide?

[real shale]

The only reason I see to actually use valves is for priority junctions

Imho

[empty spoke]

u can only try to heal against the damage

[empty spoke]

maybe u can also demolish ur crate and collect them that way? but im not sure about that one

[old urchin]

I think it may be too far in the void to even save

sadly

[normal orbit]

use scim

[real shale]

Anyway, on the topic of fluids, I am curious to see what "fixes, sorta" to fluids entails

[empty spoke]

told him already, he doesnt wanna cheat

[old urchin]

I dont wasnt to use cheats to get back materials I lost becouse of my own stupidity

[empty spoke]

wasnt it like the more cars i add to my train the slower it gets or the more fuel it needs?

is there a limit? or like a most efficient car amount?

[swift turret]

add another train into it

[normal orbit]

trains use electricity. ratio is 1 engine to 4 cars. longer trains will have speed penalities on inclines

also longer trains tend to clog up intersections

i would keep em under 10 length total

[empty spoke]

okay so i should focus on 1 train with 4 cars

[real shale]

yes

[empty spoke]

each car has 32 slots so i can collect like 10k iron each with every single car so 4 cars should be plenty

[real shale]

avoid using longer trains unless you need to, because it gets messy really quickly since it means you need long train stations everywhere

[molten vessel]

So, are there only a limited number of hard drives to research?

[real shale]

106(?) iirc

but there are more than there are recipes

[molten vessel]

Kinda like Korok Seeds in BotW then

You max out inventories long before you find all the seeds

[real shale]

theres a couple you need for MAM research

for the likes of turbofuel and stuff

[normal orbit]

106 is sloops, harddrives is like 118 or something

[real shale]

technically 119 if you stick around for ficsmas :P

[molten vessel]

Do excess just become inventory space?

[ornate saffron]

they are just esxtra

[real shale]

you can store them away

[normal orbit]

maybe new recipes could come in a update :p

[real shale]

you are so right neko they should release automated factory cart recipe

[molten vessel]

Also, is it possible to make a male character? From what I’ve seen, the character has a bit of a chest, no matter what?

[gloomy tusk]

it is always a female character

[molten vessel]

Interesting, just wondered

[inner ruin]

I GOT A COAL GENERATOR THINGY

😄

[unkempt blade]

use your imagination, the space suit is just lumpy

[normal orbit]

grats, now make it and consume coal

and dont forget it likes some sippy with its meal

[real shale]

I like some sippy with my uranium too

[ornate saffron]

imma sippy some Apple juice rip the bong then nap. Then BACK TO THE FACTORY

[drowsy kelp]

Closer to it likes some coal with its meal of water

It drinks 3x the amount of coal it eats

[normal orbit]

gotta hydrate

[real shale]

it likes its one ingredient soup

[drowsy kelp]

Carbon soup, yum

[gloomy tusk]

congrats Automated power

[molten vessel]

Is anything stopping me from just… building a Hub anywhere I want to mark something?

[gloomy tusk]

only 1 hub each world

[molten vessel]

Dangit

[gloomy tusk]

you can move it and put it somewhere else but there can only be one per map

[unkempt blade]

coal is very filling

[ornate saffron]

You can disassemble and move it

Some go so far as to make a bp around it for quick placement with all there needs

[molten vessel]

BP?

[drowsy kelp]

Blueprint

[gloomy tusk]

big poo

they should make a giant factory cart that multiple people can ride and it would be 5 times as fast and golden

@unkempt blade do you agree

[ornate saffron]

One we can ghost ride

[mossy fulcrum]

Is someone who ghost rides called a Ghost Rider?

[gloomy tusk]

oh snap

[ornate saffron]

Ghost ride, ghost ride

Get outta the way let Casper drive.

Ghost ride, go crazy. Whos that driven? PATRICK SWAYZE!

[molten vessel]

I now know why there is an Arachnophobia mode.

[bleak valley]

Oh yeah

They are terrifying

[molten vessel]

The worst part is how fast they are…

[bleak valley]

Wait until they start jumping :D

[molten vessel]

If you’re referring to the way they pounce on you, I noticed.

If you aren’t, then I fear.

[gloomy tusk]

they also kill other animals

[molten vessel]

That’s… nice?

[bleak valley]

Wait until you find an alpha one

[warm finch]

Wait until you run into 3+ alpha spiders. with at least 2 being poison AND radioactive each.... God they jump so freaking high it's ridiculous. \

[molten vessel]

If you attempt to build a second Hub, does it do nothing, or replace the first one?

[static hare]

what causes elavada to actually pop up and speak because every time she does its absolutely great

[ornate saffron]

You can't. It requires unique parts

[real shale]

unique parts? iron ore?

[zenith fractal]

there's a global limit of 1 hub

meaning only 1 can exist at any given time

[molten vessel]

So, ‘does nothing’ then, got it

[green fiber]

prevents you from building the hub altogether

[cunning glade]

I like one hub tbh

[green fiber]

it literally requires iron ore nowadays i think

[ornate saffron]

Im likely thinking of a early access varient

[cunning glade]

20 iron ore now

Which I preferred the parts

But it makes sense ig

[real shale]

20 UNIQUE pieces of iron ore that you cant find anywhere else

[cunning glade]

Since u could soft lock urself technically speaking

Tho like massive skill issue if u do so

[molten vessel]

Wait, so on servers, you can only have one team? Since just one hub?

[marsh vale]

how do you kill the weird demigorgon-mouth looking things that spawn the explosive bugs? im throwing nobelisks at it from range but it isn't doing anything

[swift turret]

you have to wait till it opens

[inner ruin]

how long does it take to mine this coal away so i can put a dig on it

[real shale]

alternatively you can crouch and wack it and it doesnt do anything iirc

[swift turret]

?

[molten vessel]

Just crotch man

[real shale]

true

[green fiber]

no matter how you play in MP, theres only ever "one team"
no competetive factory building

[molten vessel]

That’s kinda sad, competing is fun

[real shale]

why

why would you compete when the puppies and kittens need saving

[molten vessel]

…why is competing fun?

[inner ruin]

theres a massive egg thing on the coal. how do i remove it so i can put a miner on it?

[green fiber]

the game doesnt really have a framework for competetive building.
theres no player owned structures and you can already kill each other anyway

[molten vessel]

The kittens are disguised spiderbominations, don’t trust!

[leaden turret]

-# cough 1.2 cough

[swift turret]

mine it

[inner ruin]

i am mining it

[inner ruin]

.

[swift turret]

flick your wrist harder

[molten vessel]

Oho, is a planned update gonna give us this power?!