satisfactory

[pastel surge]

Wait no,

50,000MW

[night sail]

Damn

[pastel surge]

I'm using around 30,000 rn, and my particle accelerator uses 10000,

Clock it higher and it uses more

I could actually crash my grid with this

[night sail]

I haven't even hit 10000 production yet lol

[pastel surge]

Phase 5 here we go

[jaunty jewel]

not enough

[pastel surge]

I know

I'm working on it

[spare cradle]

What should I do with about 2750 petrol coke excess

That is 2750 coke per minute

[vale perch]

coal generator?

[dense violet]

sink it? simple and points

[pine bough]

when is satisfactory's next admin abuse?

[vale perch]

what

[dense violet]

if you want power from it, turn the HOR into diluted fuel instead

[pine bough]

its a joke

[vale perch]

i guess yea

[vale perch]

oh

[short fiber]

To anyone new to the game like I still am. Invest in wall outlets. They are so much less spaghetti. Especially in blueprints

[dense violet]

those are a great early purchase. Like ladders

[short fiber]

Also doggos are a great way to get awsome points

Especially when they bring you nukes

[vale perch]

do doggos follow you

i swear i tamed one and i dunno it's gone now

[dense violet]

you need to keep them in a pen

[short fiber]

Yes but from a very short distance, get too far and they sit. I suggest using fences to make them a pen

[vale perch]

is there a good transport method

[short fiber]

Nope

[dense violet]

all the vehicles + belts/pipes

[pastel surge]

Bro, I went to Check my NPPs and 2 of them weren't getting enough water and one wasnt even connected 💀😭, then the whole system for waste was backed up because of 1 conveyor on a merger.

#screenshots message

Thats how I have them set up BTW, pretty simple

[stone quiver]

How do I link to my screenshot in the thread

[plush raft]

i wonder when they said they fixed fluids did they mean that because they added the fluid truck or did they actually make it simpler to understand

[stone quiver]

I am making my northern biochem facility a fluids nightmare for everyone here.

[dense violet]

you always have a choice to not make it a fluid nightmare

[stone quiver]

No no, I am here to prove pumps work

And what goes up must come down

[spare cradle]

How not to.

[dense violet]

... yes? pumps work

[plush raft]

yeah what this guy said

[dense violet]

keep pipes simple, A to B, keep manifolds flat

[spare cradle]

No loops?

[stone quiver]

Mine is flat... in the Z axis

[dense violet]

loops are part of the simple

[plush raft]

wow so simple just impossible to put into practice

[dense violet]

@spare cradle #math-and-meta message

some simple basics

[dense violet]

look, make a post in #1038092680493801533 I can take you through how to make simple reliable piping with no fuss

[spare cradle]

I tried that and it doesn't be simple

[dense violet]

again, next time you make a fluid set up make a post in #1038092680493801533 and ping me.

at this poing I've helped out hundreds of people with their pipe issues, often in only a couple minutes of explanation

[stone quiver]

How do you link to your message in a thread

[dense violet]

right click the msg and it'll offer to copy msg link

[stone quiver]

#screenshots message

Are my pipes simple

[dense violet]

noooooo, if you click the 'rules' link I shared it mentions keeping manifolds flat - vertical fluid manifolds are the opposite of that

[stone quiver]

Turn your head sideways then.

[dense violet]

that doesn't help your manifolds 😛
While vertical fluid manifolds are technically possible they are very obnoxious

not what you build if you want easy reliable piping

[stone quiver]

Tell gravity to get stuffed

[dense violet]

I mean you do you. It just depends how much effort and time you're willing to put into something

I build in circles and that takes a lot more work and time

[stone quiver]

I mean it's not a "rule" that it doesn't work. I'll turn everything on later, but it has no problem filling

[dense violet]

Like I said - it's possible to get vertical manifolds to work if done very carefully and in certain ways, but it's often unreliable and a ton more work

What I do is give people the tools to consistently make working fluid set ups that work in basically all situations

If you want to do wild crazy shit - sure go for it

[stone quiver]

I mean if I'm that bothered I'll just invert it.

If it truly causes issues

Pump to 200m, fill downward

[dense violet]

you generally need to do that yes

but even then. eh.

[glacial drum]

Would gas even require the input pipe to be above the machines being fed

[dense violet]

liquids don't need that either. At long as it's level with the input

[stone quiver]

No fluid ever requires it to be above the machine being fed

Gas is dumb in that it's incompressible though.

[dense violet]

it compresses in packages

[glacial drum]

Yea I had some issues myself that I think i fixed but i got off before being able to run a full test earlier.. 60 gens being fed by a mk 2 pipe at 600 RF yet my last few kept stalling.

[dense violet]

prob need to loop it

[glacial drum]

lines of 60 about 4.5 lines

Yep. That’s what I did but like I said I haven’t been on to test it yet

[dense violet]

also avoid buffers

[glacial drum]

What’s wrong with them?

[dense violet]

well with liquids, at best they do nothing at worst they cause flow issues

gasses HATE buffers though

kills flow

[glacial drum]

That’s probably why I had issues tbh. Damn thing couldn’t output 600/min

[manic trench]

What's the best way to plan where factories should be. I've made multiple saves now. But every time I end up with 1 massive mess of stuff near the space elevator. How do I plan what stuff to make somewhere else

[dense violet]

yeah next time you're on kill the buffers, then reflood the system 🙂

[stone quiver]

By buffers do you mean industrial tanks before inputs?

[glacial drum]

look at the inputs you’ll need and find ores nearby

Systems flooded mostly rn. The loop pipes aren’t but that’ll take probably 2-4 minutes

[dense violet]

honestly that's pretty normal before you unlock everything.

any factory you keep adding to will end up being at least kinda messy

[stone quiver]

Fluid buffers are fine, you only want them in the same places you'd accept conveyers to buffer imo though.

[dense violet]

Fluid buffers are useful at trains - anywhere else they'll either do nothing or hide/cause issues

but don't use buffers for gasses

[manic trench]

I know. But I've seen videos where people start building stuff away from there main area well before I can. But idk how they choose what stuff to build and where to build it.

Say I wanted to make aluminium. I make the basics at source. But then how do I decide if I should build the actual aluminium parts there. Or transport the base aluminium.

[dense violet]

thats personal preference - and if you've never done it before the only real way to decide how you like a method is to try it 🙂

[stone quiver]

You just pick somewhere and look at what's nearby and start building

You can move materials at any point in the supply chain, from raw to finished goods

You could make a highway and fill trucks at the mines, haul it to your factory, process it there

[manic trench]

I keep just getting stuck when I hit phase 3. Because I get lost as to how to expand as everything is just all over the place

[stone quiver]

There's no race. If your first solution moving material is slow, but still automated, it's a success

[dense violet]

imo? Just connect things together and accept the mess - learn all the new mechanics and tactics, then, after you complete phase 5, make your own projects

it'll be a lot easier 🙂

[manic trench]

I got everything automated. It's just hard to plan it out when idk what needs to be added later. I have a whole train network across west side if map. But it only connects 3 stations as that's the amount of factories I have

[stone quiver]

What is added later is always just the next step

[dense violet]

don't plan then 🙂

this is my last starter factory
smelters floor 1
constructors floor 2
ect ect

I just fill buffers with items after each process and link them to new ones up top 🙂 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425811234363801732/1425813458892361728/image.png?ex=69925c82&is=69910b02&hm=1d5b5e5c1391decf24bcce3660f480305adafbce20a1f5c63d27c7ee8d59c80a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1232&height=626

[manic trench]

Ik I mean idk how much space it will take

[dense violet]

it's not efficient, but it gets the job down and consistently

[manic trench]

My iron is wholly powered by 3 T2 miners. And it makes more than enough iron resources :/ if I made more I would have no idea where to store the excess

[dense violet]

that's fine? have stored parts go into buffers -overflow the rest to a sink.
not a problem 🙂

[manic trench]

I would send a pic of the mess that is my factory but I can't send pictures

[dense violet]

every other channel allows images basically 🙂

[latent gate]

ay cobalt

quick sanity check question for ya

[dense violet]

sure

[manic trench]

Sent in screenshots

[latent gate]

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

I wouldn't say it's messy?

[latent gate]

that's 3 sets of 15 heavy oil residue refineries on 600/min crude oil

[dense violet]

well the middle pipe is feeding 2 manifold branches - which can cause issues, but isn't always a crippling issue

and it looks properly looped. Flood the systems and see?

[latent gate]

yeah, I tried.

maybe ten-ish hours in some of the refineries can't get rid of residue fast enough

[manic trench]

It didn't sent the second one.

[latent gate]

and not on the forked manifold either

the side ones

[dense violet]

really? interesting. So the pipes in the image are the HOR pipes?

[manic trench]

I sent another one with the messyness

[latent gate]

nope, that's the crude infeed

[dense violet]

still seems fine

[dense violet]

ah ok for that I'd have to see the pipes from the outputs there to the inputs of HOR

if none of the refineries in the image are starving of oil

[latent gate]

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

also post in #math-and-meta easier to talk and look at iamges at the same time

[latent gate]

gotcha'

[manic trench]

I have no idea how I can either clean it up. Or add more stuff to it without stuff clipling all over

[dense violet]

more floors - can always build up. Unless you're in a cave

[manic trench]

I can't. Space elevator is on top. And building up also has same issues. No idea which machines should go on which floor

[toxic lichen]

why are the aluminum alts
like lowk goated

think ive gotten all the ones that cut silica out

[pine bough]

Use running into alien power augmenter as travel method?

[dense violet]

a lot of people like to simplify things

[toxic lichen]

goated in less
brain power needed
but also
looks like they produce a lot more

think the only thing id need to manage is water byproduct

[dense violet]

Well, without the silica, you make fewer ingots, but you need a lot of silica to boost production

the waste water is easy

[dense violet]

blue is fresh water, red is waste, the bottom refs all make solution https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1347741162018046083/1347747308623892551/image.png?ex=699276fe&is=6991257e&hm=e5ef2113277e52001c3724a7e8f0d6345c768f167d0f4f5fd45dca121de2820f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[toxic lichen]

huh

[dense violet]

it's the simplest way to manage it, and is unbreakable.
just need to clock the machines right. Basic basic maths

[toxic lichen]

hmmmmmmmm

i see your vision

[dense violet]

it's not an obvious solution to most people xD but FEELS like it should be obvious once yo ureally look at it

Someone pointed it out to me years ago and it was a real 'well duh' moment. Felt like a fool it was such an seemingly obvious solution

[quasi warren]

... oh my god that seems so easy. I usually do the wet concrete recipe to deal with it all

[dense violet]

it's effectively the same thing as wet concrete but you don't need extra material for it.

and by the same I mean it keeps the waste and fresh water not connected

which is the important part

[storm hull]

Thank you for telling me but i doubt i can get it as i buy steam games with giftcards
But thank you again for trying to help me/telling me

and somehow its more expensive 😭 on humble

[spark ruin]

@small hill #screenshots message thats normal

looks terrible
but thats normal for this game

[small hill]

damn. thx

[jaunty jewel]

DEFINITELY not enough

[toxic lichen]

tf is a npp ;-;

[leaden turret]

guessing from context nuclear power plant

[woven nebula]

hello, is there anyway to build horizontal without mods or do i need to download one?

[swift turret]

use zoop

[woven nebula]

mint, cheers man

[floral trellis]

nuclear power plant?

[lost oak]

I'm producing more than my belts can handle. Could I theoretically do Splitter -> Converger -> Splitter -> Converger etc. as a way to do a manifold that can handle the output with the belts I have now?

[floral trellis]

no, youd have some bits of belt between each splitter and merger

[lost oak]

I can handle what the machine produces

Just not the total

[floral trellis]

just use more belts. the only place this actually limits the throughput is from miners

[clear mesa]

He's trying to manifold it neatly

[lost oak]

Exactly. I like things looking nice

[clear mesa]

You can merge it into your single belt as long as the belt after isn't limiting your 2 inputs yeah

There's no max throughput on mergers

[floral trellis]

i cant quite picture it, but as long the math adds up below the max of the belt, go for it

[lost oak]

Because I have MK4 belts. I'm producing 2502 Scres and only one of the machine groups that needs them doesn't need a total higher than 480

Maybe Screws was a bad idea

[clear mesa]

Well

[floral trellis]

thats 5 belts, with 5 full of overflow

[clear mesa]

Screws should generally be produced as close to possible as the place they're needed for this reason

[floral trellis]

guess you could merge the fifth with the rest after some machines

[clear mesa]

But your idea of just simply merging the conveyors once they can accept more in the manifold works too

[lost oak]

They are being produced right next to the machines they need to go into.

[clear mesa]

Then all you really need to do is a manifold that constantly gets fed more on the last machine

[lost oak]

I think 4 machines is the max it'd be able to handle

[clear mesa]

Then you'd throw a merger on the original conveyor connecting the other machines on the 5th

Etc etc

[lost oak]

I need to do a small floor just for the logistics of this to make it easier

[clear mesa]

You definitely could

[lost oak]

When the manifolds end up involving too much math I usually bring everything up with lifts and then do the manifold on it's own floor with no machines

[clear mesa]

A lot of people like to phase out screws using alt recipes for this exact reason

[clear mesa]

Sweep it under the rug :p

[lost oak]

Steel Screws are so cheap though

[lost oak]

Yes and no. It'll still look neat

[clear mesa]

they can become logistic nightmares very quick

[lost oak]

I kind of don't hate it. Makes it more fun in a way

[floral trellis]

honestly, i just tweak the clocks on my receiving machines that i can work with a full belt of screws per manifold

[lost oak]

This entire steel factory I'm building has been a nightmare so far in terms of logistics. Have 2 trains bringing in ore and then 1 one more train bringing the ingots to a separate place that was next to where I was making the concrete

Been fun though

[floral trellis]

yeah, i did a steel factory with 3 pure iron and coal, and of course the solid steel recipe. was very cool

#screenshots message

[lost oak]

I'm doing it on the northwestern corner. Brough Coal from 2 pure nodes. Chose this place because it has 5 Pure limestone nodes and it has copper nearby for me to do iron alloy ingots. Also has a pure caterium node nearby which will come useful since I have alt recipe for wire that uses caterium

Jesus, 4680. Can't even imagine producing that much

[floral trellis]

you dont wanna see what i did in the desert then 😅

[lost oak]

I still haven't completed Phase 3

[floral trellis]

got 24000 iron and 9600 copper there.

[kind kite]

Honestly I think rushing the phases first and getting stuff like mk3 miners and mk5 belts on phase 4 is better to do before making any huge farms that way u can optimize better

[floral trellis]

ye, for sure

[lost oak]

I like taking my time. It's my first time playing as well, so don't wanna overwhelm myself and end up quitting halfway

[floral trellis]

good way to play

[kind kite]

I played the cracked version for like 5 days and got 50 hours of playtime on it and after hearing about mods i basicly instantly bought the game on steam. Maybe on ur second play though I heavily suggest trying moded it's so much fun and u can add so much more new content to the game and make ur life easier. For example u can add stuff like mk2 and mk3 hyper tubes for even faster hyper cannons or just faster travel with normal hypertube systems. Quality of life stuff

[lost oak]

I have some mods on

Mainly train mods and the one that lets extractors and miners snap to world grid so my I don't end up frying my brain trying to align them

[floral trellis]

my save game yells at me for being modded, because i once tried a simple mod, does that count

[kind kite]

No it's fine

If u don't do alot of them that may be considered cheats than it's fine

[lost oak]

We all play how we want. All that matters is that we have fun

[kind kite]

There's like mods where u genuinely teleport items across the map

[lost oak]

I do try to avoid the cheat mods if I add any

[kind kite]

Ye exactly

[lost oak]

I feel like they'd ruin it for me

[floral trellis]

i think i played with endless zoop for a bit, before it got added for real

[kind kite]

Oh yeah wait it got added?

[floral trellis]

well, err, the endless shift

[lost oak]

No? Zoop is still capped at 10

[kind kite]

I still have it as a mod

Man making these manufacturer farms is such a pain in the ass I swear it took me like 5 hours to make a farm that makes me 10 heavy modular frames per minute

I don't know if ur there yet tho

[lost oak]

Mine only makes 4 and it's already a pain

[kind kite]

Ye it takes so much logistics optimizing

Man I'm sad that multiplayer isn't like Minecraft it's kinda hard to get a dedicated server so u can play when the owner of the server isn't online

I bought the game cause I wanted to play multiplayer but it was kinda disapoiting

[lost oak]

I'm almost done though. Just need to do the screws logistics and the rest is smooth sailing

[kind kite]

Man screws were always annoying they just are so many of them like the cast screws was 1 to 12 ratio I think

[lost oak]

Steel Screws is 3 to 250 iirc

Oh wait, no. 1 to 52

[kind kite]

Ya bro screws

[lost oak]

5 Ingots per minute produce 260 screws per minute

[kind kite]

Man also another anyoing part is the oil it's kinda hard to manage all outputs inputs water making fuel stuff like that so many recipes with lots of different byproducts

[swift turret]

Just convert them into someone usable or sink them

[kind kite]

I mean I di that but it seems like such a waste

[lost oak]

I actually quite enjoy oil mathing. But I wanted to make the basic stuff before I go deep into oil. Also I'm still not going to phase 4. Don't wanna overwhelm myself with aluminium + oil right off the bat

[steady dome]

And still it's not the best ratio from iron to screw 😛

Ah sorry wrong person

[steady dome]

That's better 😅

[kind kite]

Also with phase 4 aluminium I have a perfect setup of water going in and out of the byproducts stuff like that but it somehow still overflows like I have 150 water from a extractor and 350 produced from recipe with water byproduct which iconect with the 150 to make 500 water total which goes back into a refinery which requires total 500 water but somehow it's not looping and it's with time overflowing into a industrial buffer

[marble kernel]

I Build a big powergrid it worked for two days Straight without a Problem and now it collaps every 20 min and I cant find the Problem and I didnt connect new things that suprised me can some one help me

[steady dome]

It's always best to seperate fresh and waste-water completely.

[kind kite]

What power source

[kind kite]

I guess I'll do that I just don't know what to do with the waste water I mean I can't sink in no?

[marble kernel]

Coal

[steady dome]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alumina_Solution#Gallery

[kind kite]

It's probably logistics problem where ur water inst flowing properly for sun reason

[dense violet]

disconnect the power station from the main grid, restart it, then inspect it

[marble kernel]

Thats weird bc all coal Generators are Full with water every second

[stone bridge]

I have a question about the steam deck, am thinking of getting one, will i be able to play the same save as my pc one, so i can continiou my world and not start a different one for the steam deck?

[kind kite]

We can call and u share screen and I'll see what's wrong if u want

[steady dome]

It's not a don't use it question; It's a split it up question. Make sure fresh and waste aren't connected and the problem is effectively resolved. Let the wastewater build up a bit before turning them on and and they will run smoothly forever as long as your math is right

[dense violet]

aluminum production?

[kind kite]

Like if I have 6 refineries the waste water goes into three and then the fresh one goes into two split like that?

[kind kite]

Yes

[steady dome]

As long as the math is correct, yes

[dense violet]

do it like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1347741162018046083/1347747308623892551/image.png?ex=699276fe&is=6991257e&hm=e5ef2113277e52001c3724a7e8f0d6345c768f167d0f4f5fd45dca121de2820f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

blue line is fresh, red is waste,
just clock it

[steady dome]

The link I shared has a few possible sltuions with clocks

Straight from the wiki. People just seem to ignore that super important image though

[kind kite]

I'll show my shit in a second

[marble kernel]

If you have time shure

[kind kite]

how can i paste images

[steady dome]

#screenshots

[kind kite]

ye im down

[dense violet]

pinged you in #math-and-meta
and almost every single other channel can have images

[kind kite]

i sent u mine also there

its night outside tho so its dark

i basicly have three refineries one underclocked to 50 precent becuase i have a set amount of petrolium coal i use and i use the electrode aluminium scrap recipe

[marble kernel]

i addet you

[kind kite]

K

[nimble sluice]

Has it been ever suggested to the devs that ppl should be able to switch between KBM and controller input simply by pressing any input on either of them? cause going to a menu to change between the 2 is a bit annoying

[dense violet]

I've had people specifically have problems having controller inputs at the same time they are using M+K , so I think you can use both at hte same time

[thick crater]

its een like 7-8 months since i played sf and i forgot most of the stuff ive done in the game,and ive put 60 hours in that one save

do i just continue playing on the save and attempt to relearn everything ive done or do i just start from scratch on a new save

[dense violet]

either works

restarting can help solidify basic skills and it's faster redoing it

[tall lantern]

Yeah I'd lean towards a restart, if rebuilding that stuff isn't a deal breaker

[thick crater]

thats what i thought too but im kinda skeptical cus it took me 60 hours to get to that point

but at the same time i dont understand much in the old save

[dense violet]

it'll be faster 🙂

[thick crater]

I guess i dont have to stick with the save and i could just relearn the basics

alr thanks

[thick crater]

I think youve given me advice when i used to play the game before lmao

i distinctly remember ur name

[dense violet]

it's moderately unique xD
And I'm a fan of polishing basic skills. Very important for basically everything else if you want to be good at things

[zenith pecan]

Back to refinery wast '26 for me.

[zenith pecan]

Hence how I saw you in stellaris 😛

[dense violet]

which I'm playing RIGHT NOW

the new exp branch is interesting

[zenith pecan]

I haven't played that for a bit, especially since me & half the galaxy made my pc frame rate quit out with the final attack on 25x contingency core.

[dense violet]

... have you played since they did the pop overhaul?

[zenith pecan]

Hmm, no, why?

[dense violet]

oh wow you've missed some MAJOR updates then

and new exp is trialing a performance and resource overhaul so that fleet stacks aren't so huge so doesn't slog yoru computer

[zenith pecan]

Having three world crackers open fire at once was mild overkill.

[dense violet]

I think yo'ud be impressed with the new performance on exp 🙂

[zenith pecan]

Mine and two allies decided to crack the core at the same time, which weapon landed the hammer blow is still unknown.

So far, although I'm having to watch like a hawk, the spire project is finally producing its 6460 plastic and 3660 rubber.

[cold berry]

I went for the forest biome and only mildly regret it. Can I get rid of the death chest pings? I give up on these two death chests I have lol

I don't want them on my compass

[tough kelp]

You should be able to unmark
Them from you compass in your map

[cold berry]

Or just disable so I can find them later. I need some kind of radiation suit

Oh okay

I didn't have the map yet when I tried last, but I do now

Thanks

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

why wont the pipes connect?

[tough kelp]

On the left side columb it allows you to hide markers

[tough kelp]

Do they have 2 different fluids in them?

[scenic mirage]

nope nothings in it

[tough kelp]

Flush the systems and retry

[scenic mirage]

i just placed it, its not connected to power or anything. no recipes are selected. its just a blank refinery blueprint

[tough kelp]

A blueprint you’ve used before?

[scenic mirage]

i built it yesterday n i thought it was all connecting but i just went back and checked the rest and none of the pipes did. the pipes on the other side of the blueprint did tho

[zenith pecan]

Aw, not much more in the spire for me to extract 🙁

[brittle seal]

there are enough hard drives in a world to unlock every recipe, right?

[reef basin]

yeah

[lost oak]

Is there anyway to do archways without mods?

[dense violet]

easily

quick youtube search will find you a few different ways

[forest dew]

i was just wondering, will the chain saw only accept bio fuel?

[fresh zinc]

so i have 2 biofuel burners that should equal 60, and my max consumption equals 50 on the grid, why does it keep blowing a fuise

fuse

[swift turret]

Are you connected to your max before turning on the burners

[fresh zinc]

biomass burners sorry*

[swift turret]

If so turn on the burners first then connect it up and check your max

[fresh zinc]

i was, should i disconnect and then connect once burners are running?

that isnt working either

it shuts off the burners as soon as i reconnect the wire

[swift turret]

Then your max consumption is higher than 60

Double check if you have fuel in both burners as well

[fresh zinc]

i have biomass in both burners and it says max consumption of grid is 50-

[white dawn]

You're not using the two burners on the HUB, yeah? Those are only 20MW each

(They're different than the ones you can build yourself)

[fresh zinc]

nope using seperate burners

[white dawn]

Using a mod or cheats to have access to hoverpack early?

[fresh zinc]

no im not lol

the grid is 6 constructers, 4 smelters, 2 mk1 miners

[dense violet]

show an image of your grid

click on a power pole

[swift turret]

Unless 1 of your burners is not connected to the grid or isn't on and doesn't have fuel only thing I csn think of is the max consumption

[white dawn]

Yeah, might be time for a #1038092680493801533 thread about it

[fresh zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1472586161703747699/2026023.JPG?ex=69931c3c&is=6991cabc&hm=f35ed08852aee8f3665c341f9a7f8441693496793cb263573b889750724071e8&

thats the screenshot of grid consumption

[dense violet]

your max consumpion, is much higher than the peak production line

disconnect your machines from your bio burners then show the line, I'm guessing you don't have them both connected

cause that's looking like it gets up to about 30mw

[fresh zinc]

the line from the grid again without thte burners on it?

[dense violet]

yes cut the connection from the burners to the machiens consuming energy

[fresh zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1472587222795550832/2026024.JPG?ex=69931d39&is=6991cbb9&hm=4472319c9b77225a1b6c2d814527e7df986fb2331ea63703e4f7df03df674104&

ill set a new helpmtopic for it, cause even when im on three burners it still shuts off

[white dawn]

Are you sure that all three burners are on the same power network? Make sure they all connect into a single power pole before the power gets routed to any non-burner machines

[fresh zinc]

they do

[dense violet]

you still haven't disconnected your machines that consume power

[fresh zinc]

they have three lines going into one pole then out top the machines

i did in that pic it was just hovering the old line

[dense violet]

the blue line is still at 50mw

[brittle seal]

does someone know if gportal servers start to lag in the late to endgame? performance wise

[fresh zinc]

well idk then there was no power running to it lol

[dense violet]

have only the 3 bio burners on the grid

[fresh zinc]

nvm its now working for some reasno

[dense violet]

you often need to disconnect your factory from your power station to reflip your breaker

[hybrid nymph]

Backup batteries are very important

[cunning glade]

It's so nice too be back in the 3d world

Tho I keep mixing up the controls now with factorios controls

But I think it's time too finally beat the game

Factorio is a quick game

[hybrid nymph]

It is yes

Still very fun I've heard

Never played it

[cunning glade]

It is fun somehow more addicting

But I've missed how pretty this game is

Also I've missed my math

Actually getting too do numbers

[zenith pecan]

I'm currently covering the spire with walkways, I'm so taming the region after exploiting all its oil.

[unkempt blade]

I've been trying to get friends to do a playthrough with the expansion but haven't gotten buy-in yet haha

[zenith pecan]

That's debatable and dependant entirely on how big your power installation, or at least having several running.

[cunning glade]

Have them start with vanilla

Vanilla is a lot of fun

[hybrid nymph]

I always have coal for backup power

[cunning glade]

I'll do the dlc at somepoint

[unkempt blade]

We did one of those a while back. It was a lot more fun with friends than solo

[cunning glade]

My next plan is either dlc with rampant or space expansion with rampant

Doing a rampant deathworld rn pretty fun but fucked

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I think they might enjoy some of the harder modes. Some of them are a little more combat game people than logistics game people outside of what I lure them into playing

[cunning glade]

But I wanna come back and actually finish this game

I'm on phase 4 on 2 worlds

Combat is what really made me want too play it so ye

Tho Frick the bugs

[zenith pecan]

In the past I had turbofuel (shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rLV_YcVt8s ) as backup yeah it's ridiculous as it's like 1km by 1km 🤣 , my current save is powered by a colossal rocket fuel installation, the coal plant in the dunes is completely redundant.

[cunning glade]

I think my next plan is too make 100 computers a min

I think

I have no clue that sounds like how many I needed

[zenith pecan]

I should be able to do that now I have the spire coast oil dealt with, I won't be short on plastic 😄

[cunning glade]

I'm making I think 6450 rubber a min and I think 6600 plastic a min

[zenith pecan]

I'm at 6460 plastic but only 3660 rubber, you taking the oil from the canyon nearby the spire too for more rubber?

[ionic tundra]

I unlock coal power in T3 right?
I can't last much longer on bio

[quasi warren]

Yeah

T3 unlocks coal power

As a milestone anyways

[ionic tundra]

oh thank god
about done with Phase 1 so I can unlock it in a sec
cheers

[cunning glade]

Desert Canyon oil is actually one of the 2 spots of oil I have yet too touch

I have that spot and then over in the tropical I have one 300 node left

Other than that I'm out of oil

[quasi warren]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[quasi warren]

Heres some designs you can use

[zenith pecan]

I'm aiming to turn most of that into coke to increase my copper and caterium production, the rest going to making fine blasting power for things that go boom.

[ionic tundra]

tyvm
that bottom one looks perfect
might double it up
6 water generators for 16 coal refineries?
idk what theyre called

[cunning glade]

My next plan is too take the starting oil power plant that makes 60mw and turn it into pure diamonds

[quasi warren]

Coal generators*

[cunning glade]

Tho tools tells me too just use coal for diamonds so idk

[quasi warren]

I usually use the top design, as thats easier for me to do

[zenith pecan]

Turn the recipe for coal diamonds off in options and it'll give you alternatives.

[ionic tundra]

Ahh fair
I find the other one easier but that's just me
I have all my manifolds setup like it

[quasi warren]

The top i have manifolded aswell, its easy to expand the first design as its modular

[zenith pecan]

I need to build a new singularity plant, god I knew I put the game down for a reason.

People say don't demolish old factories, you'll be rebuilding for an age, but my sense of order says out with the old.

[cunning glade]

Ye ik but I didn't mind coal it was only some like 15000 coal a min

[ionic tundra]

Good point
I'll see what the space is like over at the coal nodes
I think next I need a Modular Frame Factory

So coal power now
then modular frames
then steel

[quasi warren]

Where are you starting out? If its the grassy plains I have a perfect spot for it

[cunning glade]

What

[ionic tundra]

northern forrest

[ionic tundra]

just what I'm doing next in order

[cunning glade]

Oh I'm fucking dumb

[ionic tundra]

lmfao

[cunning glade]

I'm thinking of heavy modular frames

Like why do u need those

[ionic tundra]

haha nah just normal ones for now
not gonna lie though I can't wait to be building these compact factories
4x4 but I need a lot of stuff from the sink

[cunning glade]

Id have 1800 oil too work with for diamonds which is a decent amount

Oh u still need coal

Oh huh

Some 3000 diamonds is possible

But 30k coal a min

[quasi warren]

There was a golden area for coal power, but the devs removed one of the coal nodes. I rarely start in the northern forest so idk how to help-

Why did my phone autocorrect that into dune desert

Wth-

[ionic tundra]

nah ur all good
imma look around at different spots
also I realised why my rotors aren't producing at 10pm
a single mk1 belt

tiny little one connecting the ore to the manifold

[quasi warren]

Ive had that happen with mk6 belts

[cunning glade]

Oh

[ionic tundra]

like screws are backed up, no rods coming through at all

[quasi warren]

Like "...why is there ore every few sometimes???" Checked. Mk1 belt was put in a small section

[cunning glade]

Okay turbo diamonds are cool

[wanton cloud]

yall

do i use floor holes for pipes or not?

i heard they were bugged

[wide rampart]

Does the game close out if steam goes offline or if I lose access to internet?

[quasi warren]

Not that im aware of? I played the game when my internet shut off for repairs

[wide rampart]

Okay

[quasi warren]

I think it also depends on where you play the game on

Epic or steam for example

[wide rampart]

Because I am on a day trip and left my game on to accumulate some resources. My steam logged out because I had logged in on my phone. I am curious if ill return to the game closed out or not.

[cold berry]

I've played for two hours and all I have to show for it is these reinforced plates

||(I like these kinds of games /s)||

[ionic tundra]

bro dont worry
I spent 2 hours gathering leaves and wood yesterday

[wide rampart]

Wait until you get more

[ionic tundra]

I have a storage container full lmfao

[cold berry]

I've got copper going to wires and the other cables, and I've got a three node Smeltery for iron with dedicated lines for each one now

I'm taking a break lol

To play a different automation game. I've got a prob. Going to MineMogul now (another great one that's in early access and is all about the physics with simpler crafting, and I'm into that too RN). Later I'll do my Minecraft Create/Applied Energistics/Tinker's pack.

[vale perch]

that one looked fun

[cold berry]

It is actually

Satisfactory is way different

MineMogul is early access rn though so it definitely plateaus. It's more about the physics, and getting simple processes correct with the physics objects, where satisfactory is more math-and-complexity-based. It's also got a money system instead of crafting, which I think suits it, because again it's about the physics more than the complexity

Then Minecraft Create is just like, a little bit more simple satisfactory but with a lot of really fun actor pieces, but then you have all of Minecraft behind it to find other shit to do. I just wish Create had auto-miners that didn't require tunnel bores and shit. Automatic gold and iron farms help though

I've been in miles of conveyor belts for days

[ionic tundra]

yeah well I just spent 20 minutes adding a splitter behind each storage container of my iron production and reinforced plates
20 damn minutes
just to get spare crap to the sink

[stone quiver]

I use floor holes for everything and it seems fine

[vale perch]

yea i think i saw someone play it and glitch outside the map lol

[ornate saffron]

Floor holes are fine

[cold berry]

That was a fun video. It almost got me into it. But my wife just bought MineMogul for me when she was on her discovery (she knows my issues), so I didn't get to buy it lol.

[stone quiver]

Floor holes in glass are a pain but I'm making them work. It very much doesn't like to snap

[cloud crown]

have the buffed the rifle since 1.0?

[ornate saffron]

This happens to me sometime but largely they are fine

[ornate saffron]

No. Does it need one?

[cold berry]

I can't wait to unlock the actual building pieces 🙁 my break was because I'll have to wait to get the parts for this stupid space elevator you all have probably built 15 times lol

[cloud crown]

I always thought it felt meh to invest on it
when a sword really does as good as a job with a stun rebars

[night sail]

Hey so I just set up a heavy modular frame factory which is producing around 6 pm is that good what should I aim for ?

[ornate saffron]

I find the combat the least interesting part of the game. Ill play quake if I wana shoot things lol

[cold berry]

I've got my shit on foundations waiting for good walls to unlock

[vale perch]

good walls?

[stone quiver]

You should aim for whatever the part after it needs. 6ppm HMF is very good,m though

[vale perch]

also where tf is the unlock for glass roofs and stuff

[cunning glade]

Awesome shop

[quasi warren]

Awesome shop

[cold berry]

I do not like the first walls I unlocked. They look kinda ugly, and there's no doors or anything, so you just have to like... Leave a hole in the wall for I/O

[cloud crown]

you can unlock walls with holes soon

[cold berry]

Yay

[wanton cloud]

oh alright then thanks

[cold berry]

They were very smart to put the color customization onto the awesome shop unlock to corral players who care about aesthetic into looking at it. Very clever game design here.

[cunning glade]

Oh sweet diamonds just convert into time crystals

[vale perch]

you can't get more swatches without mods right?

[quasi warren]

Correct

[cold berry]

I don't think so, but you can change the defaults, which is cool

That's kinda LIKE having several slots :p

[quasi warren]

When you change a swatch. All buildings with that swatch change with it

So if you use one swatch for a turbofuel plant. And you change it later for nuclear, well now your turbofuel plant is green

[cold berry]

They need to add in more custom slots

That honestly seems like an oversight lol

I rarely say that about games, and I play valheim (which I bring up because I think there should be a few QOL changes I mod in because if the devs don't agree they don't agree usually lol but this seems silly)

[cloud crown]

can you choose a swatch per building? i think that would be interesting

[quasi warren]

Not that im aware of no

Not without mods ofc

[lost oak]

I think I'm gonna build my mall in Spire Coast

It's the prettiest area I've seen so far

[eternal island]

I just lost my way in my factory

[stone quiver]

Which is spire coast

[lost oak]

Middle north

Very pretty coastal area

[ionic tundra]

for an 8 generator coal plant, I only need Mk1 belts right?
the miner to the manifold will be MK2 but idk about the rest

[stone quiver]

Oh ya spire coast is the best. Making a biochem facility there

[lost oak]

Should be. Since the first splitter splits it into 60

[unkempt blade]

unlock doors then 🙂

[ionic tundra]

Yeah exactly
Cheers mate

[lost oak]

Just make sure you have MK2 coming out of the miner or have two miners producing 60/min

[ionic tundra]

it'll be a MK2 belt from a pure node

[toxic lichen]

8 coal gens
would use 120
but you can feed them with a mk1 belt
mk2 to feed the manifold

[pastel surge]

Not enough what

[wary remnant]

That's wrong. When the first generator fills it will only be taking 15/min and the overflow downstream will be 105 which a Mk.1 belt won't carry.

[cold berry]

I can't wait for coal

Manual item farming is so 1987

[ionic tundra]

are there any negatives of doing full T2 belts?

[toxic lichen]

not really

its a manifold belt
so itll take a sec to actually get fully up and running

[reef basin]

no, usually just do everything out of highest belt you can do

[toxic lichen]

can either hand feed each machine coal let belts handle consumption

or have it off until they start filling up then turn em on

[ionic tundra]

Belts are MK2
Elevators are MK1 as they are only taking 15/m
pipes are completely full

Just gonna leave it to fill up, but now I can get rid of my bio crap

[eternal island]

em i found a animal named Lizard Doggo

why cant I kill him

[reef basin]

you can

[pastel surge]

What does "so 1987" mean

[eternal island]

it disapperd

[ionic tundra]

its actually so good, no plan or design and it's going well
just takes time to fill

[eternal island]

okay

[ionic tundra]

outdated

[pastel surge]

Oh

[whole robin]

Put a paleberry in front of one and walk back a bit

[thick crater]

Im returning after a long time with scroll wheel broken,what keybinds can i set for rotating the holograms in building

idk anything else feels really weird other than scroll wheel

[ionic tundra]

yay
600MW stable
that should be enough for all of my power needs for now, if not I can find some more water and coal and build a bigger plant

[stone quiver]

I bought children from the awesome shop and they go in the coal mines for me

[terse zephyr]

the only way to obtain turbo fuel is through MAM research right?

[nocturne nebula]

yep

[toxic lichen]

blue crater
towards the bottom east of the map

[forest dew]

I was wondering, when do you get the manufactrurer to make heavy modular frames?

[ionic tundra]

I haven't even explored the forest fully lmfao

[toxic lichen]

for future reference e'-e'

[ionic tundra]

ahh

[toxic lichen]

i have 32 coal gens there
can probably get another 16 im just lazy

[ionic tundra]

tyvm
weird question, how would I go about designing a new factory. I want a bunch of the really compact 4x4 factories but I struggle with trying to fit it all in

[ornate saffron]

also prob unnecessary oil is close

[ionic tundra]

2.4gw
possibly 3.6 jesus christ

[toxic lichen]

yea i got 10 fuel gens there rn

[thick crater]

atp start using oil fuel instead

[frosty mirage]

Expand from 4x4 imo

[mossy sun]

Does anyone want to play with me on a new world?

[nocturne nebula]

do hypertubes have any upgrades for speed?

[jaunty trellis]

hypertube canon

yeet cross map

[nocturne nebula]

oooh, sounds exciting!

I do love to YEET!

[jaunty trellis]

just not too much

or you die

[tall lantern]

#1201555265942724758

[brittle seal]

does someone know if its a problem if you dont loop a pipeline at the first splitting junction, but build a new junction before that, just for the looping pipeline?

[versed palm]

i swear imma get roasted for my power factory 🙏 but first time doing this so pray for me lmao lets hope this works (had to split the 2 sides for the pipes since i only have tier 1 (300l/m) but 8 coal power is like 360l/m :3)

[tall lantern]

the fact you actually noticed that you can't fit 3 extractors through one pipe is a good start

[versed palm]

#math-and-meta message

[tall lantern]

common mistake people make is squeezing it all through one pipe and wondering why it doesn't work

[versed palm]

its about maths people maths :3

right cuz its not magic 😃

[leaden turret]

sufficiently advanced maths is indistinguishable from magic

[versed palm]

almost, yea

[thick crater]

what new stuff have been added since 1.0?

[leaden turret]

points at the proof for 1+1 = 2

[versed palm]

right

after i have to use pipes to transport oil im probably gonna cry because pipes headlift and all of that are a pain in the ass xD

actually nvm im goona use my brain and instead of underclocking and having 2 water extractors im just gonna overclock :3

[nocturne nebula]

I'm at 500

[ornate saffron]

whenever you add a pump it resets the headlift.

[versed palm]

ik ik

[jovial lance]

hello! :D

[surreal stirrup]

Can anyone tell me what was changed in the experimental version of the game? In short, I don't want spoilers. THX

[green fiber]

Just an engine upgrade and some controller fixes

[ornate saffron]

all backend stuff no new assets

[last bluff]

golf

[nocturne nebula]

whats the best rebar type to use?

I have Iron, Stun and Shatter

[ornate saffron]

shattrer if you like the up close and personal style of killing

[last bluff]

I prefer iron and never needed more

[nocturne nebula]

I like the idea of up close

I have only ever really used Iron

[last bluff]

isn't the basher early-game?

[nocturne nebula]

fairly

depends what you prioritize I guess

my top priorities are the basher and the Blade Runners

then the Zipline

[last bluff]

I like exploding any enemy I'm afraid of

[rustic urchin]

Is there a setting I can change so I don’t have to swap my input to controller every time boot up the game

[last bluff]

not what you asked but what worked for me is make sure cloud sync works properly

(if other settings are fucked as well)

[nocturne nebula]

nice, shatter it is ... one shot kill on a hog

[lost oak]

I finally finished my steel factory. Gonna take a break before I even think about how to decorate it

[ornate saffron]

most small monsters die in one shot. use the boombox to get space to reload

[white dawn]

Like much in the game, they're all pretty situational. IMO keep a stack of all of them on hand and switch as needed

[nocturne nebula]

I just got juggled by 3 hogs!

they took turns hitting me as I landed, hahaha

[ornate saffron]

50 shades of pingong

[last bluff]

technically they didn't mention such update/mechanics as one they won't add

[leaden turret]

-# [insert simpsons "that's a paddlin'" meme here]

[nocturne nebula]

😄

[white dawn]

No need to crosspost; you'll get answers in the channel you originally used

[soft marsh]

Fair enough - deleted 👍

[versed palm]

wait i need someone to look at this and tell me if this is sloshing pls :3
#math-and-meta message

[hot knoll]

if i loaded my save on experimental branch can i return to stable?

[leaden turret]

only if you don't save it, generally

[versed cosmos]

i wouldnt trust saves on experimental to be backwards compatible

[nocturne nebula]

wow, going near the edge of the map kills ya QUICK!

[versed cosmos]

always back up your save when playing on experimental

[unkempt blade]

if you want to see something else neat make a really strong HT cannon and point it straight up

[nocturne nebula]

will a parachute save me? lol

[unkempt blade]

depends how high you go

[nocturne nebula]

thought so, lol

[frail grotto]

yo

[crude canyon]

yo

[frail grotto]

yo

how do i get the FICS thingy back

[cold berry]

Just started the sink and noticed the tickets get more expensive. This will be a slippery slope I see

[frail grotto]

people get 1000 tickets btw

[tall lantern]

people get a lot more than that

[crude canyon]

which one

[frail grotto]

next to my name

[cold berry]

The hub? You just build a new one

[tall lantern]

it's fine though, the price ramps up but so does your production and the points for later items

[cold berry]

Oh that

[frail grotto]

oh i got it

[cold berry]

Right now I've just got my iron farm funneling half of it's part output into it. That's what I'm supposed to do, right?

It says excess parts but there's no such thing

Only what I need later

[tall lantern]

there's always excess parts

just burning half is an option early on though, sure

[cold berry]

Ye

[brittle seal]

can you somehow force a power outage? so all machines just stop, without disconnecting and connecting any wires?

[cold berry]

So I should use that as a proper sink later though. Or find high value parts for it

[tall lantern]

later you'll generally use smart splitters to store some amount (depending on how much you want), then overflow the rest to sink

[dull pine]

You can use a switch

[ornate saffron]

a power priority switch would even let you do it remotly

[brittle seal]

sorry didnt formulate my question that good, i want to stop fuel generators from consuming fuel, which only happens if they are not connected to a wire, in a power outage, or dont have any fuel at all i believe

[hard mantle]

satisfactor

[dull pine]

Or if they're turned off

[brittle seal]

true forgot that function

still annoying for 60 fuel gens but better than cutting the wires ig

thanks twin

[dull pine]

Could also overload the circuit if they're on their own just overclock or add a bunch of machines

[cold berry]

Gonna get to the next phase. I want coal so badly

[brittle seal]

wont be overloading 15k mw manually ✌️

i tried to connect an already overloaded circuit to the one with the fuel gens, but sadly it didnt help

[dull pine]

Then that circuit isn't overloaded

You prob have a connection to power elsewhere

[brittle seal]

i just built a biomass burner to one machine, gave the burner a little fuel and when it ran out it caused the outage

then i connected the two circuits

[violet hollow]

Hi, Is there a known bug with conveyor lifts connected via a floor hole directly to a machine?
The bottom lift pulls the items in correctly but the top conveyor lift does not successfully pull the item through the floor hole. This happens A LOT to me and sometimes I have to rebuild it exactly the same 2-3 times and then it suddenly works.
Anyone knows something here?

[waxen locust]

floor holes, both for pipe and conveyor are naturally very buggy, it is also possible you didn't snap them properly.

[warm finch]

Check out #patch-notes . TOOOONs of updates if you're coming from 1.0. Great qol stuff

[eternal hinge]

yes the toilet flushes

[waxen locust]

argueably the most important update

[eternal hinge]

I agree on that

[hard mantle]

can i flush an iron bar down the toilet?

[waxen locust]

90% of the items in the game can

[hard mantle]

bro the water went all on my feet

[eternal hinge]

wonder if they asked the Coffee Stain creators over at Goat Sim to make it

[frail galleon]

It took me and my brother 85 hours to finish Phase 3. Is that slow?

[hard mantle]

wait they were made by the same people?

[waxen locust]

different teams most likely. but same studio

There could be some crossover though, (in the dev team i mean)

[waxen locust]

Depends. were you trying to be fast?

[warm finch]

Not at all. I think I took at least 150 hours on my first save lol

[solid idol]

go at your own pace theres no rush

[frail galleon]

First time playing.

[hard mantle]

i thought satisfactory was like an indoe game or something made by 4 people

[waxen locust]

then take all the time you need

There is no "too slow"

[tall lantern]

people take vastly different amounts of time to progress, no point trying to compare

[hard mantle]

ada is getting mad at me for flushing wood down the toilet

[solid idol]

ive got about 93 hours im in tier 6 but im still just redesigning things again and again every time i do it better

[blazing verge]

what does the crane do?

[hard mantle]

why is ada so rude

[warm finch]

And honestly, the more time you spend in a phase setting up production and using resources, sink, etc, the better prepared you will be for the next phase as it expands on the previous phase. The first 4 phases are basically tutorials to prepare you for phase 5

[waxen locust]

because she's funny

[warm finch]

Lol yeah she's a cunt and it's hilarious. Reminds me a bit of the robot in portal 2. I love it.

She's even more funny with Australian captions.

[eternal hinge]

Ok I need to se this

[warm finch]

Oh can't use that word LMAO my bad

[solid idol]

lmao

[eternal hinge]

OH

[waxen locust]

I wonder if Glados was almost like a, baseline for ada? or should just be sarcastic because thats the kinda mood this branch of coffee stain has XD

I still remember when coal was missing the capital C in the scanner. and so it was reported. so they put it as cOAL instead XD

[blazing verge]

guys what does the experimental version mean???

[warm finch]

Didn't know about it until recently when an Australian player pointed it out. They said it was even accurate and was impressed

[warm finch]

It means a playable beta version

You have to opt in to play it

[waxen locust]

very buggy version of the main game. but has the newer features. tho not with this version, this is an upgrade to the game engine. but stil buggy

[blazing verge]

what is the difference to the main game?

better graphic??

[waxen locust]

no. the engine is just different. its meant to be more performant

[warm finch]

Usually experimental versions are testing possible features and bug fixes before rolling out as the next stable version

[waxen locust]

it's experimental in the sense. the features in that branch arn't fully tested. So instead of inhouse testing, which they also do. They allow thousands of us to test it outselves so they can find alot more bugs faster.

so expect crashes and bugs.

[tall lantern]

"very buggy" isn't usually true tbh, but it is generally at least a bit more buggy than the main branch

since part of the point is to get it in the hands of people who can find that stuff better than their QA can

[waxen locust]

I was refering to past experimental versions.

[warm finch]

While technically correct, it is a sufficient answer for the intended audience which was the poster that didn't know what it meant.

[wanton cloud]

Yall i just noticed the pioneer was a woman

[waxen locust]

they are meant to be ambigious. but they do have an enlarged area on the chest which can give the idea of breasts.

[blazing verge]

so isnt it better than the main game?

like stunning graphic and new stuff

[waxen locust]

n o

[hard mantle]

my friend has been playing longer than me i had to tell him that the pioneer had boobs

[dull pine]

That circuit that tripped was for the biomass if you want to trip the main circuit for the gens you'll have to hook it up first then trip

[warm finch]

No. It's literally "experimental" probably best for you to stay on the stable version and not worry about it for a better/smoother playing experience

[waxen locust]

in the last model they had. before 1.0. they also had a buldge on the crotch area aswell.

[dull pine]

You're just hooking up a dead circuit if it's already tripped so has no effect

[wanton cloud]

genuinely assumed she had no gender till i started messing with the character customization

[hard mantle]

oh i didnt know that

[waxen locust]

they arn't meant to. but the overall shape of them, does imply. atleast to me, female.

[warm finch]

Haha yeah. MANY debates ensued...

[wanton cloud]

i think it would be easier to convey the idea of genderlesness with no bulges

[waxen locust]

agreed. but this is the route they took

[waxen locust]

honestly. the best kinda human has both buldges

[hard mantle]

if a constructer makes 15 concrete per minute and my miner produces 60 can i split the concrete into 4 constructers?

[wanton cloud]

i usually manifold those kinda ratios

[blazing verge]

but the game is looking way better ig?

[waxen locust]

nope, the constructors takes 45 stone a minute

[warm finch]

You'll want to look at how much limestone is needed to make 15 concrete

[hard mantle]

oh yeah mb i forgot about that

[blazing verge]

like the graphic and textures

[waxen locust]

no. theres no graphical difference between main and experimental

[blazing verge]

then why does it exist?

[waxen locust]

to test for bugs. how many more times?

[warm finch]

We've already answered this multiple times. The answer is no and it's literally for testing.

[wanton cloud]

experimental is NOT for visual improvements bro we told u that already

[blazing verge]

what bugs when there arent any changes

[tall lantern]

sometimes they put new features in there, sometimes (like right now) it's just internal engine updates

[wanton cloud]

there WILL be changes

[tall lantern]

at some point it'll have 1.2 in there, for example

[blazing verge]

oh so they testing future updates

[waxen locust]

just because theres no graphical changes. does not mean there is no changes.

The main change right now from main to experimental is that they are using an updated version of the game engine. and that can lead to some major bugs. so they are having the community find them by placing the update on the experimental branch first before pushing to the main game

[wanton cloud]

YES

[blazing verge]

so I can just stay in base game and wait until the update is getting released in my game too

[tall lantern]

yes

1.2 should be out sometime in the next 4 months

[warm finch]

Correct and that was advised

[tall lantern]

but it'll be on experimental sooner

[wanton cloud]

question. what changes will the updated engine bring? Smoother processing? raised limit ceilings

[tall lantern]

(and potentially more broken on EX too, which is why they do this)

[wanton cloud]

or just some optimization

[waxen locust]

yes. the whole idea is that.
if you don't mind reporting bugs or more importantly. DEALING with bugs and want new features sooner. Go on experimental
but if you wanna play the game and not risk anything majorly breaking. like loosing your save or something similar. stay on the main branch

[waxen locust]

mostly performance increases.

[wanton cloud]

awesome, just in time for when i get to phase 5

[tall lantern]

"Smoother processing? raised limit ceilings" is optimisation, is it not? 😛

[blazing verge]

I got a quick question

[wanton cloud]

i know but if it's specific or no

[tall lantern]

normally the patch notes are more detailed, they didn't go into much this time round

[cunning glade]

How many supercomputers do y'all normally make

[green fiber]

1

[warm finch]

Yeah they also hinted at a possible surprise feature

[wanton cloud]

0. didn't get to them yet

[cunning glade]

Really?

[blazing verge]

I host my own server in the game and started it with my friend. Am I able to play the tutorial with him too and can start in with nothing like in single player??

[wanton cloud]

yo why does this say 1 i typed zero

[waxen locust]

not on a server. But you can trash the bonus items if you so wish

[tall lantern]

Per minute? a few for personal use, then however many later factories want.

[green fiber]

i just dont bother with them.
i wait for them while i do other stuff

[cunning glade]

I was thinking like atleast 10 a min

[blazing verge]

on servers I cant play the tutorial?

[warm finch]

That's a good start. Go for it

[waxen locust]

nope. never been a thing on servers. I can't remember the reason they give. but they just kinda did that since they introduced servers.

[cunning glade]

I'm trying too game plan late game stuff rn

Issue idk phase 5 stuff

[tall lantern]

good luck

[blazing verge]

and I kept all my stuff and level

[tall lantern]

crystal ball planning is hard

[waxen locust]

there isnt a level in satisfactory.

[cunning glade]

Cuz I'm doing 30 pasta a min then slooped too 60 so I need 60 computers for that so I'm making 100 a min

[warm finch]

You're way too early to worry about phase 5 stuff. You haven't unlocked mk3 miners or mk6 belts. Don't worry about it, enjoy the game and the phase your in

[waxen locust]

unless you mean phase. then no, unless you upload your save to the server

[cunning glade]

I have mk3 miners

Just not 1200 belts

Which has been annoying with 6400rubber a min

[blazing verge]

when I delete it my whole single player file is getting deleted

[warm finch]

Ah! Sorry I thought you just unlocked computers based on the question. I would still plan on getting mk6 belts. Then design everything using blueprints for phase 5

[warm finch]

#dedicated-servers is a good channel

[cunning glade]

Ig true moving 30k copper a min with 780 a min won't be fun

[blazing verge]

there arent anyone talking since one hour

[reef basin]

because nobody asked anything there

[waxen locust]

well then talk in there and people might follow suit.

[hard mantle]

30k?? golly

[cunning glade]

Yeah trying too figure out how many comps I wanna make a min if I do 100 that leaves 40 a min for supercomputers and building

[cunning glade]

Wait no it's only 15k sorry it's 30k coal for the 1500/m time crystals I wanted too do

[hard mantle]

thats still a lot

[cunning glade]

True ⅓ of the maps amount

[blazing verge]

now I asked

[waxen locust]

I think my main "issue" with satisfactory. is that, I never have anyone to play with. so I have no use/experience playing this game with others. So I end up still doing everything. leaving nothing for the other player to do XD

[cunning glade]

My only issue I have no clue how much aluminum i wanna or need too make

[warm finch]

Yes

[cunning glade]

Well the issue is it's resource intensive

[waxen locust]

how is it?

[warm finch]

Not if you use the alt recipes

[warm finch]

Mind if I dm you?

[waxen locust]

🤷‍♀️ why not

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ud6sDzaZbxCsomnUMNPH still up there

[reef basin]

make how much you need now, make more in the future

[cunning glade]

Or I make all of it now and then don't need too make anymore

[karmic spindle]

An one playing with crossover?

[waxen locust]

There is always room for improvement
wether it's recipes, or layout.

[warm finch]

Yeah that recipe is meh. I prefer sloppy alumina mixed with electrode or the other (coke or coal) and pure ingot.

[cunning glade]

Well I don't have any oil for aluminum so

[waxen locust]

same

[warm finch]

Crossover is not compatible sadly

[tall lantern]

unless you can perfectly predict, you'll either build less than you need (so need to build more anyway) or more (and have spent more time doing this than you needed)
Also got the issue of keeping track of how much is going to each factory you're going to siphon this into (since if you weren't siphoning, you'd just build what you need right now and not be worrying about what other factories want)

and yeah, also be missing out on any chance to use alternate recipes for later stuff, whether to improve resource efficiency, or to make use of what you actually have nearby

[cunning glade]

See but I'd rather over build then under build cuz in the end it's just more points

Now the issue will be do I need more than 16k aluminum hopefully not

[reef basin]

but you don't know how much you'll need, so you'll most likely end up either making more than you need (and wasting time now), or having to go back and make more because you made too little (and having to build more anyway)

[cunning glade]

Pasta only takes 3k so I should be fine

[cunning glade]

I have a rough ballpark tho which so far has been good

[warm finch]

Honestly that recipe isn't a good use of your time

[cunning glade]

Isn't that like the only recipe I can do

Also issue with that recipe

NVM only 8200 coal usage so still under 42k even adding the 30k I wanna use

[blazing verge]

can I play the normal multiplayer mode and then access the tutorial with my friend?

[cunning glade]

It's just heavy on silica

[pastel surge]

3k what

[tall lantern]

that sounds like an insane amount of coal to be using before even hitting P5

[cunning glade]

3k aluminum

[pastel surge]

Oh

[cunning glade]

No the 30k would be just for time crystals

Well for diamonds for time crystals

[tall lantern]

that makes more sense

[blazing verge]

?

[tall lantern]

I was wondering how many diamonds you'd be able to make if you were using that coal for other stuff lol

[pastel surge]

I only use a bit of coal for compacted coal before p5

[reef basin]

why is that a ping reply to unrelated message?

[blazing verge]

bec I wanted to ask you bec you are an expert

[reef basin]

why do you think so?

[cunning glade]

Ye I have my starting PowerPlant that has 1800 oil I'm gonna use that for diamonds when I hit phase 5 cuz I just made a roughly 700gw rocketfuel plant

[tall lantern]

lol

[blazing verge]

lead pioneer

[reef basin]

I've never played the game multiplayer and last time I opened the game was in 2019

[nocturne nebula]

when does the hoverpack get unlocked pls?

[reef basin]

I have 50 hours on Satisfactory and last version I played was like... U2

[cunning glade]

Ur like certified satisfactory expert

I think 10k aluminum should be good

Yeah my first aluminum plant was 3900/m

[quasi warren]

Tier 7 or 8 i believe. Not sure which one

[warm finch]

If you scan more hdds you can unlock sloppy alumina which doesn't use silica or sulfur. Then electro or the other (use coke or coal, your preference), along with pure alum ingots

[nocturne nebula]

oh no, only at the end of 4 and haven't even started the parts to unlock 5 yet, lol

[stoic nebula]

im having issues with my co player crashing every time they try to join my world. we have 800 hours on the world together and i dont wanna lose it before we beat the game together. im never crashing and we already tried to fix the issue together and couldn't figure what was happening. can anyone help?

[cunning glade]

I need oil tho no?

[quasi warren]

Tiers are different from phases

If you are in phase 4, you should be able to unlock the hoverpack

[nocturne nebula]

ah, not yet prepared for phase 2 then, lol

[warm finch]

Depend on if you want to use coal or oil.

Petro coke is far more plentiful than coal so that's the route I usually go

[reef basin]

that doesn't mean that I know everything, and it's better to ask general audience over one specific person anyway

[cunning glade]

No u are the all knowing

[hard mantle]

wait so would you hypothetically be able to automate every single item in the game besides like biomass and stuff or are there not enough nodes and stuff

[cunning glade]

I hate pet coke tbh also I don't have any oil too spare so

[quasi warren]

So you dont have oil unlocked yet?

[cunning glade]

Neither coal really tbh

[tall lantern]

yes, you can make a lil of everything

[hard mantle]

ooh cool

[warm finch]

Yes you do, lol. TONS of oil available once you unlock pressure wells.

[tall lantern]

you can underclock, so you can easily make 1% clock of everything and barely use any resources

[warm finch]

And if you have the HOR alt recipe, coke is super easy to make.

Anyways, point is, get sloppy alumina at least.

[cunning glade]

Maybe

[tall lantern]

but even reasonable numbers of everything are doable

[cunning glade]

Ik there's the one next too my first powerplant that I can't turn into diamonds cuz that's already using 30k coal

And maybe next too desert so I may have 2k oil too work with idk if that's enough for like 10k aluminum tho

[nocturne nebula]

no sir

[quasi warren]

Yeah. Tiers 3 and 4 then

[cunning glade]

Cuz I think I just need aluminum and computers and I can do phase 4 parts

[quasi warren]

@nocturne nebula #screenshots message you doing modded? How do you have the hoverpack before tiers 7 and 8?

[warm finch]

Do you have sloppy alumina?

[nocturne nebula]

yeah mods ... but this one is overkill tbh, lol

doesn't even need to be near the power network ... so I am strict and will not use it when exploring

[quasi warren]

Yeah ok that ones broken

[warm finch]

If you haven't beaten the game yet, may be a better playing experience on vanilla first until you have a feel for what you're doing

[quasi warren]

I have early hoverpack mod, which adds 4 versions of the hoverpack, throughout the game. The early versions are crappy, low speed, and little connection range. And it gets better as the game goes on

[quasi warren]

^

[crude canyon]

you can use the grappling hook mod

it's a must have for me

[forest dew]

heya

[nocturne nebula]

I have over 3000 hours, lol

[forest dew]

I dont suppose anyone has any co-ordinates for a good meycilia site please?

[nocturne nebula]

haven't checked for a while as I can no longer see it in epic launcher

[warm finch]

Ohh my bad! I thought I was responding to the other player that was newer lol

[quasi warren]

I started using that. Best mod i ever used, once I learned how the movement works? I started SWINGING

[nocturne nebula]

🙂

[warm finch]

Where are you located?

[mortal ginkgo]

Is there any mod that turns every node to Impure Limestone Nodes as they all should be?

Its been ages that devs didn't fix the issue and no I am not biased thank you for asking.

[crude canyon]

still not the best grappling hook I've ever played with, that's aottg, but it was really fun

[quasi warren]

Aottg?

[cunning glade]

No clue do I have the hard drives too get it yeah

[quasi warren]

But yeah. Once you learn the controls for it. Learn how its physics works. You can just swing across the map in no time

[crude canyon]

look it up
It's multiplayer, free and really fun

[quasi warren]

There is a mod to turn EVERY node into impure

If you wana do that :P

[forest dew]

671, 2578

[warm finch]

Press n to open the search bar in the game, and then search aluminum and you'll see the default recipe along with the alts you have unlocked for it

[quasi warren]

??? I think they mean like which biome

Dune desert, grassy fields, Northern forest, etc

[forest dew]

Yeah im hunted around.

I also need to make heavy modular frame but don't have the machine. Yet

[warm finch]

Which biome are you in?

[unkempt blade]

if you have the recipe to make HMF you should also have the buildings you need

[cunning glade]

Ik this I'm just not home and have been playing factorio for the past month

So I don't remember what alts I have last i knew I had all the ones I could currently have

[forest dew]

Grass Fields

[warm finch]

Head east into the purple forest. You'll find a lot of the plants you cut down there will have mycelia

[forest dew]

Covering, crater, Southern Forest, lake forest, Swamp

[hard mantle]

ITS CHAINSAW TIME!

[warm finch]

Have you been cutting down plants to see which ones give you mycelia?

[forest dew]

Yes, but only the mushroom type ones and tghere wasn't many of them

but now just realised the stuff that looks like tghe veins from the war of worlds movie is LOOOOADED with the stuff

[ornate saffron]

ya coral is mushrooms

[cunning glade]

I have in my tools build 20 supercomputers a min

That seems a little much I may tone that down to 10 or 15 unless I find out why

[forest dew]

Yeah thanks.

[cunning glade]

T5 stuff doesn't seem fun looks cool tho

[unique trail]

hey

[warm finch]

There you go. Gotta cut stuff and see what gives you mycelia and then cut a bunch of it. Luckily you won't need a lot of it later after you research fabric and have oil unlocked

[ionic tundra]

So I know my next step is a MF factory, then steel production
I kinda really want to redesign my entire base though. Does anyone have any good ideas on how to compact a factory really well, like it can go verticle but I don't really know how to do it properly if you get what I mean

[warm finch]

It's a blast imo. Quantum physics!

[cunning glade]

It's just a pain in the ass on my phone too go thru and look at it all and try and figure out what all I need

[warm finch]

Going compact is generally not advised. Makes it harder to upgrade or expand later as you progress

[cunning glade]

Tho if u only need 256 ai servers than 2 a min could work

Okay no def atleast 4

2 is too long of a wait

Need too figure out requirements again

[unique trail]

one question, makes it sence to make video like lets play with some explanations and so in german?

[ionic tundra]

It's just for my starter base, my basic iron, copper and concrete
or should I just grind out for like MK3 miners with MK5 belts or smth

[cunning glade]

Okay yeah at least 4 tho I need 1k biochem

Eww warp drives need pasta

That's fine tho

I'll prolly be done with the 1k pasta by then anyway

Yeah it'll only take me 16 mins for 1k pasta so

We just take some from there but wack

Dark matter trap recipe seems like an actual horrible recipe no?

[green fiber]

more diamonds but needs less Dark Matter

thats it

it just saves SAM / Dark Matter

[cunning glade]

Also excited photonic matter how the hell u make that

[unique trail]

someone read my question?

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message cuz

[cunning glade]

Maybe I'm on the bad wiki but on here it says they're the exact same

30/m for diamonds or crystals and 150m for both

[last bluff]

I just discovered letsgameitout and now I'm compelled to make a foundationless base

[warm finch]

Yeah mk3 and mk5 are pretty much absolute must haves along with a lot of awesome shop stuff unlocked to make your building experience better and give you more options/flexibility

[unique trail]

hello?

[ionic tundra]

awesome shop has been almost fully bought out lmfao

[warm finch]

Excellent! This is the way lol

[unique trail]

can you read this?

[quasi warren]

Yeah

[warm finch]

No I can't read

[last bluff]

bro can't read 💀

[unique trail]

did you see my question?

[hard mantle]

i just got the mam

[nocturne nebula]

how do you control the hypertube direction pls?

i've tried AD and Space

[quasi warren]

press E if you mean the branches and junctions

[shadow talon]

You asking if its a good idea to make a video explaining in German?

[nocturne nebula]

thanks

thats a great upgrade

[unique trail]

yes

[shadow talon]

If there is a community thats interested in Satisfactory but cant read English, sure!

[unique trail]

make the video not in englsih but in german about satisfactory

[green fiber]

!wikisearch Dark+matter+crystal

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Dark+matter+crystal

[last bluff]

does radiation in an area cap?

[green fiber]

not really

[last bluff]

NICE

[green fiber]

radiation keeps growing with more radioactive items in that area

[shadow talon]

Im at fused modular frames

[green fiber]

as for the dark matter crystal question:
is 30 and 150 to 30 or 60

[shadow talon]

Production?

[green fiber]

Dark Matter Trap is twice as efficient with the dark matter

but takes twice as many diamonds (in the form of time crystals)

[shadow talon]

I have not gotten into that so i cant give a good ansewer