satisfactory

[radiant torrent]

does anybody know where the in game map stores the progress? i accidentaly pasted an explored map on my new game save and it doesn't accurately show progression

[real shale]

Factory...

[radiant torrent]

?

[stoic laurel]

so im confused, i just has copper some how wind up in one of my copper construction areas, but none of the belts from the copper node are connected to the constructor, it is only connected to smelter inputs. but my 12 constructors each had 1 or 2 copper ore completely stopping everything, anyone know whats heppening there? first time ive seen this happen

[toxic lichen]

the bigger rocks
like the ones in the plains area

can you break them with nobelisks?

or only the little rocks

if no
ill js
build above them

[fluid crow]

mostly smaller rocks but one way to find out

[finite mirage]

can high power delivery burn cables?

[toxic lichen]

that is true
hmmmmm

[finite mirage]

one of my pylons was mysterously disconnected

[tall lantern]

no

[toxic lichen]

i ate it mb

[fluid crow]

you messed up some how

[reef basin]

Yeah

Answer to your #screenshots question - yes

[real shale]

Fortunately you can run as many GWs through a single power pole as you want

[ashen meadow]

Ok so I know that many years ago, Coffee Stain directly stated that they were not interested in adding turrets/tower defense mechanics... but I really want turrets to automatically murder all the pesky little herbivores that keep spawning around my factory. They impede the efficiency with which I can subjugate this world and crush its ecology under my boot.

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
this is the area from the Miner -> Smelter

[regal helm]

If not turrets, at least let us electric fence it. I agree with CS's decision; I quit Factorio because I didn't like the bug mechanic but I also don't need these elephants sniffing my factories

[placid stirrup]

Beans, Lizard Doggos, or the demogorgon birds?

[real shale]

I wish I could keep a bean in a cage

[toxic lichen]

iirc in factorio you can disable them from spawning

[ashen meadow]

Mostly the giraffe tick things. I want them dead. They constantly block my builds and get in the way of traversal. They're cool off in the distance, but if they get within the same zip code as my factory, I want them dead.

[coral marsh]

Think I found the true purpose of geothermal gens

[real shale]

Power?

[void cliff]

Radio towers?

[coral marsh]

The random crashed pods on the map

[placid stirrup]

They help you expand your power infrastructure, yes

[void cliff]

Hyper tube cannons

[coral marsh]

I was hoping itd be a Lil "funi"

[real shale]

I mean, I just set up temporary biomass burners but I'm at the point that I'm not too far away from a power pole most times

[coral marsh]

Its nearly 5am so I gotta say something funi lol

[coral marsh]

I do too, my friend built me a biomass blueprint that'll supply 360Mw

[real shale]

Speaking of power, I think 120 GW is enough power to complete phase 4 with, so I no longer have to worry about placing anymore fuel generators after the 300 I placed in blue crater

[unkempt blade]

gotta build the line out as you explore 😄

[void cliff]

That’ll do, pig. That’ll do.

[somber smelt]

holy smokes turbo motors on a calculator look like a nightmare to do

[coral marsh]

Hey, dont insult the pigs that easily, american cops deserve way worse come on now

[somber smelt]

how many should i make a min? any suggestions?

[void cliff]

Factory carts delivering 1 stack of biomass at a time!

[unkempt blade]

thousands

[somber smelt]

um hell nah

[void cliff]

Just make a single one and then make more

[slate lagoon]

Do Valves work normal now? I remember they used to be buggy

[void cliff]

Pressure turbo motors are my favorite. Mostly just motors and bottled nitrogen IIRC

[real shale]

They've still got the rounding shenanigans if that's what you are asking

[regal helm]

You can! But imo Satisfactory is more fun

[real shale]

Idk if it will, I think I need more

#screenshots message

[slate lagoon]

Isnt that a bit shitty though? If I have a 120 water/s pump and 2 coal gens that need 60 water/s and I put 2 valves to divide it to 60/60 wont it be actually like 59.something and "lag" the machine?

[real shale]

Yeah, it only has 255 possible values iirc

[slate lagoon]

So should I not put valves anywhere?

[real shale]

If you can avoid it, it's often better not to use them unless you are using a VIP/VOP junction

They tend to cause more problems than they solve

[real shale]

Also, it's more so recommended to run the water in a manifold than load balance it like this

Load balancing fluids can be done but it's just...messy

[slate lagoon]

Oh alright

Cause I have a project to make 150 Rocket Fuel generators, and I was gonna use Valves but I remember they are buggy

wait so if I have like, 2 Junkions with 2 Inputs of 300 Water/s) and then I use one of the sides to connect the Junctions, and then use the other 4 (2 each Junkion) sides to output to 4 factories that need 75 water/s itll be alright?

[real shale]

yeah just keep the pipe work simplistic, doing a bunch of merging, split and so forth just is a recipe for diaster in most cases

[real shale]

would need to see what you mean here, its kinda hard to visualise

[narrow wraith]

Do we know when the next video/stream is scheduled?

[fluid crow]

#satisfactory message

[narrow wraith]

Thank you, that was very helpful

[fading whale]

Keep in mind that Rocket Fuel is a gas. Not liquid. It's less buggy 🙂

[slate lagoon]

I did not know that

[fading whale]

Most importantly, you don't need to worry about headlift and pumps.

[toxic lichen]

picking up the iron - steel pipe recipe was goated ngl

dont even need to worry about the steel bit yet ;-;

[west sluice]

this game is quite satisfactory

i must say

[lapis shadow]

I haven't made it to gases yet, are they anything like fluids at all? I assume no backflow, sloshing, or gravity effect. So would piping for gases be pretty much like conveyors? Super duper easy?

And would you need pipes to fill to achieve a steady flow rate?

[tall lantern]

they're unaffected by head lift, but still get all the other fun fluid behaviour

[lapis shadow]

that's it? 😦

[grim ermine]

Pretty sure mk 4 belts have the same throughput as mk 1 belts

[ashen meadow]

Has anyone ever made a Satisfactory anarchy server? Like an equivalent of 2b2t?

[grim ermine]

I dont think anything would ever get done if it did

[ornate saffron]

That sounds like hell

[fading whale]

As easy as conveyors? Not by a long shot 😄
But simpler than fluids as you don't have to worry about headlift.

[lapis shadow]

Let's Game It Out on YouTube basically accomplished that solo haha

[rugged jasper]

mk6 is in tier 9 ?

[ornate saffron]

Mmmmmmmm mk6 belts

[fading whale]

Correct.

[ashen meadow]

LGIO introduced me to Satisfactory all those years ago. His playthrough is half of what gave me the idea of Satisfactory 2b2t lol

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
first time completing phase 3

[rugged jasper]

as I remember they are 1200 ? or am I wrong

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[ornate saffron]

Pull it, pull the lever

[rugged jasper]

I am making a new factory atm

[fluid crow]

Do a cheer for puppies and kittens

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message pulled

[fading whale]

1200. Same is a fully clocked MK3 miner 🙂

[lapis shadow]

They should add mk4 miners but without increasing our max belt speed. So that way they're just pointless

[ornate saffron]

Naw, things are balanced well

[rugged jasper]

100 x 100 foundations, all total madness build.
everything crazier than before 🥹 - first one was just a test if I could make it work

gotta push the litmit ^^

[west sluice]

hello guys

[ornate saffron]

I believe in you

[ornate saffron]

[west sluice]

hiiiiiiii

[lapis shadow]

They should make mk6 belts cost somersloops to construct

[rugged jasper]

you are mean now

[ornate saffron]

Naw, sam is enough

[west sluice]

forgive me for my ignorance but what is a somersloop?

[stoic laurel]

somersloops are a finite resource, why would you make something cost that?

[ornate saffron]

Alien part you find in the wilds

[west sluice]

oooooo

[rugged jasper]

the most amazing sweet thing ❤️

[west sluice]

ooooo

[ornate saffron]

Don't sleep on MaM research

[stoic laurel]

its already crazy enough you can use them in the APA to generate more power

[lapis shadow]

Most valuable resource in the game, you'll know why once you unlock them

[west sluice]

oh i havent unlocked the mam yet

[ornate saffron]

You will^-^

[west sluice]

DAMNNN okay i'll look out for them

thanks yall!!

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message

@west sluice

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
really good for double outputs on production machines

[ornate saffron]

Generally speak while you explore pick up everything

Slugs

Alien parts

Harddrives

Sticks (for fuel)

[fading whale]

Don't be afraid to pick up anything you see. Unless it charges at you or is green (radioactive), pick it up. If it's shiny. Then you must pict it up.
Do that and you will automatically unlock new research and get more info from ADA 🙂

[west sluice]

WOAHHHH i totally forgot about overclocking, i havent played this game in two years

[rare thunder]

are there corner walls?

[west sluice]

i will be scouting out for them somersloops then

[fading whale]

Well. Put two walls together and you have a corner?
Pit a beam in there if you want to spruce it up.

[rugged jasper]

I found a somersloop all abandoned in the wild desert

[rare thunder]

i mean like 45deg

[rugged jasper]

I thought it was a sign. so I build my new MEGA base here 🥹

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
like this?

[fading whale]

Only for the sloping wall.
"Proper" 45 dg, no. But it doesn't take mych practice to learn to make them with angled foundations. 🙂

[lapis shadow]

Guys I think my game is bugged, my game time will go up by 5 hours after completing a project when I swear it was only 30 minutes

[rare thunder]

#screenshots message
like this lmao

[west sluice]

oh diagonal walls? angling foundations is the only way i know of

[rugged jasper]

I made angled pipe lines for 6½ hours now, and I and dont with the first part 🥹

it looks amazing, but I will never do it again when I finish it all

[ornate saffron]

Thats a adhd issue

[ornate saffron]

Haha you say that now....

[fading whale]

Did you pick up mercer spheres? They are known to cause time dilation issues.

[rugged jasper]

this beautiful no I did now, no 😄

[stoic laurel]

oh okay, if you unlock the blueprint designer, and a couple parts from the FICSIT Shop, you can make angled walls like @fading whale said. the good thing about the blueprint designer is, you can save it and keep using it and not have to make it from scratch

[lapis shadow]

I don't think so but I swear I kept hearing this voice calling to me when nobody else was around, it all started after I picked up these big purple marbles, probably just the wind or something

[rugged jasper]

@ornate saffron I can do belts all day long tho.
#screenshots message ❤️

[rare thunder]

angling foundations like that worked thx

[ornate saffron]

Looks good, a bit jarring for me though.

I have been segmenting things into nodes rather then clusters of all one machine.

[rugged jasper]

I made everything in one place 🙂 but I take it ^^

[rugged jasper]

I think so too

[ornate saffron]

to each there own ^_^ Left a example for you though just incase you wanted to understand what i ment

[rugged jasper]

your build is not the same as mine ^^ ❤️ but I like the build you made indeed.
mine is more advanced, and need so much more, if build in one place.

[ornate saffron]

Thats 250gw power plant lol

[rugged jasper]

the chaos is real, and I love it 🙂
the more advanced the better.

[valid timber]

been working on this space elevator factory for days now

(procrastinating doing it)

[twin aurora]

Im concerned, why do I need an alternate crafting recipe for portable drills?

[valid timber]

so you can automate them better

[twin aurora]

Better question, why do I need them automated, convenient drill upgrading mats?

[valid timber]

its funny

[twin aurora]

Fair enough

[valid timber]

then you never have to hand craft them because you forgot to do it before setting up a factory

[rugged jasper]

your way of building now is not 🍝 ❤️
keep it up 🙌 @valid timber
saw your SS

[reef basin]

For building drones and miners

[valid timber]

thank you!

Honestly this factory isn't coming out exactly how I liked but its really just a lack of planning on my end

i just didnt have the heart to tear it down after all my work haha

it will serve its purpose (for now) and then I will likely deconstruct it and make a better version later down the line

[rugged jasper]

don't 🙂

[rugged jasper]

no, save yourself from that pain, IMO.
build somewhere else with your new knowledge 👍

[fading whale]

Automation is the game 🙂
You won't need a steady stream of them. But later on you will need a "not insignificant" amount. So making 4 containers you fill manually to feed a slooped manufacturer will get you far 🙂

[rugged jasper]

make a mega base when you are upper boss level 😄
(me, I still make bases all around the map) so I just keep some sort of track of what I am doing 😄

[valid timber]

100% efficient fully automated portable miner factory or I don't want it.

[reef basin]

Why 4 containers? Just automate to depot

[fading whale]

4 containers with ingredients

[valid timber]

thats my plan to be honest. I'm going to have to wait about 2 hours for all the space elevator parts to finish cooking when I'm done with this so I'm just gonna go re-work all of the factories that aren't quite up to speed and begin preparing blueprints for future endeavors

Especially my EIB plant which is an afront to the corporate gods right now.

[rugged jasper]

for each material you want to overflow BEFORE storage container, so everything is at max, and when you do other things, it will flow to awesome sink.
like that I keep track of how much I need more of everything because it is all running all the time.

not when needed. - if that made any sense

[valid timber]

I've got most of my vital resources dumping into dimensional depots, then filling an industrial container, and then overflowing into an awesome sink

[rugged jasper]

workes too, but take more space I think if not build currectly

I can show how I would build it if I were you. to save space, and make everything run 24/7

[valid timber]

That'd be great :)

[rugged jasper]

one moment please 🙂

[reef basin]

Eh, I'd automate it

[valid timber]

the phase 1 meta

[junior creek]

Is there a way to automate fuel on tier 2

biofuel

[white dawn]

Solid Biofuel, yes. Not the liquid version, though

There's a Milestone unlock in your HUB which unlocks both Solid Biofuel and the chainsaw

Well

[leaden turret]

reminder: biofuel can only be semi-automated, as biomass needs to be manually harvested before processing

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message
@valid timber

[valid timber]

Solid, yes, but only by handfeeding leaves and wood into crates to be turned into biomass and then solid biofuel.

[hollow hemlock]

you'll still have to pick up the leaves and whatnot by hand like a non-automated caveman though

[white dawn]

I should clarify: you do still need to manually collect leaves/wood/remains to "kick off" the automation. Once you dump those into a bin, though, the rest can be automated

[valid timber]

Gotcha, thanks!

[rugged jasper]

I tried my best to explain it ❤️

[leaden turret]

or pork chops alien protein

[junior creek]

yeah the harvsting part is what I wanted to avoid

[junior creek]

dang it

[hollow hemlock]

then get yerself on to coal power

[white dawn]

Yeah, sorry, wasn't thinking clearly when I initially answered.

Should get more sleep before trying to answer questions! 🥳

[valid timber]

Ive got that set up but to my awesome sink

[valid timber]

get to coal power it will change your freakin life man .

[leaden turret]

pork chops alien protein is a renewable resource, so you don't have to go in an ever-increasing circle to source more biomass, just regularly do a creature hunting run.

[junior creek]

😓 trying as fast as possible

[junior creek]

It's alright you gave a good answer thanks

[leaden turret]

reminder: one can also manually craft inhalers, so you can huff pork chops to heal

[junior creek]

is that on tier 3?

[valid timber]

Yes I believe

[stoic laurel]

reminder, with enough power, biofuel can just be backup power and can sit idle with mass amounts of leaves/woods/alien protein waiting being turned into biomass then solid biofuel

[junior creek]

like those hogs or whatever that start chasing me?

[valid timber]

Yeah\

[junior creek]

okay thanks can't wait to finish with tier 2 then

[valid timber]

Any alien animal you find can be blown up shot or beaten to death in order to turn their parts into protein, and then used as fuel.

[fading whale]

Yup. They're all just protein bars chasing you.

[junior creek]

tier 3 has lots of new stuff

[junior creek]

🤤

[rugged jasper]

I need help too

[junior creek]

what's the best way to kill them

[valid timber]

or you can turn that protein into alien DNA in order to get plenty of early points at the sink

[leaden turret]

yup

[valid timber]

i wouldnt know if guns are any good but the bombs are the most fun imo

[fading whale]

That has been established before 😉
But what is it currently?

[junior creek]

what does the sink even do is it something to do with the MAM?

[leaden turret]

oil power is just biofuel with extra time steps

[junior creek]

cuz I'm currently acquiring recourses for MAM

[valid timber]

awesome sink lets you turn stuff into points in order to buy awesome crap to upgrade and make your factory neater and nicer looking.

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that you don't have to redeem all available milestones to progress to the next phase (tiers 3+4). What opens then up is the space elevator delivery, not the HUB

[valid timber]

the MAM and the sink are seperate.

[fading whale]

It's a trash grinder. Anything you put in it gets converted to coupons that you can spend in the Awesome Shop. This is where you unlock all the cool buildables.

[junior creek]

oh cool thanks

[stoic laurel]

yes

[valid timber]

The cats are a lie...

[white dawn]

(you do generally need most of the milestones to be able to make the required elevator parts, but if there's milestones you'd like to skip, feel free to do so)

[junior creek]

yeah I know but I want to finish all the milestones to make the game feel longer

[valid timber]

i must be honest even with aracnaphobia mode on finding spiders freaks me out because I know what lurks behind the feline appearance

[toxic lichen]

like the bounce pads
i lowk see no use for me

[valid timber]

The game does that itself later on dont you worry

[leaden turret]

[junior creek]

then I'm definetly getting that milestone done next

[rugged jasper]

build my new mega massive factory 😄 haha !
I am joking I will do it all myself.. it just take a week to connect it all together 🥹 😍 as this build is 4 times bigger than my previous #screenshots message

[white dawn]

Handy "elevators" for multi-story factories, pre-tubes/jetpack/elevators, if nothing else. :)

[west sluice]

can you stand on the little space elevator thingy?

[leaden turret]

you can stand on anything if you try hard enough

[junior creek]

Lol I'm afraid to ask more questions then😅

[white dawn]

Though yeah, jump pads are a very low priority for me too, usually

[rugged jasper]

I use hypertubes to fly to each factory in the map ❤️

[toxic lichen]

you make a fair point

[white dawn]

Yeah, not uncommon. I'm actually personally not very fond of "open-air" hypertube cannons, though I've used 'em occasionally in the past

I tend to much prefer hopping on passenger rail and seeing the sights on the way. :)

[valid timber]

personally I prefer hypertube networks with boosters but they can be verrrry tedious to set up at times

trying to get that running in the dune desert is beyond annoying with all the... well... dunes

[rugged jasper]

but I am newbie to make train railways I think 😄

so I will leave it for much later in game

maybe tier 9

[white dawn]

I'd encourage you to start investing in rail early. The more rail you build, the better it becomes

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
my biofuel reactor area

[west sluice]

Wait they added elevators to the game???

[white dawn]

Waiting until Tier 9 would (IMO) just turn it into an untenably large project. At that point you're probably leaning on drones for logistics so you'd have to be quite motivated to fit a rail system into your already-established factories

[white dawn]

Yeah, added in v1.1

[west sluice]

Oh hell yes!!

I was worried I was gonna have to make a jump pad system for my base

[valid timber]

so useful if you build vertical, plus they make it easy to transfer power between floors as each stop as an outlet on it

[junior creek]

btw that's just two constructors right?

[valid timber]

depends how much you want to automate.

[west sluice]

I NEEEEED IT Which tier is it???

[leaden turret]

traditional solution was tubes, now you can travel in boxes instead 😛

[rugged jasper]

I just use belts ❤️

[valid timber]

MAM I think, but you need silica and steel so phase 2 tier 3/4

[rugged jasper]

my mega supply towers save the day ^^

[west sluice]

Thank you!!

[valid timber]

No problem :P

[junior creek]

well the process only includes costructors right?

[valid timber]

Yes

[junior creek]

oke thanks

[white dawn]

Sure, so long as you're having a good time it's all good. I more just mean that if you do want to try out rail, waiting until you're at the "end" of the game isn't gonna give you a great experience for 'em. :)

You'd be pretty likely to find 'em too much work for not enough gain, if you've got no "real" use for 'em at that point

Unless you're doing a lot of new "post-game" sandbox building, of course

The main drawback to rail is the effort required to build out the rail network, so if you don't have an actual use for 'em in mind (ie; supporting logistics or pioneer transit to new factories) IMO it's likely to feel like way too much work

[rugged jasper]

so why use 'em ❤️

[white dawn]

'cause their usefulness starts increasing greatly the more and more you build out

A single bit of rail you use for just one factory in Phase 3 could end up supporting logistics for many more factories by the time you're done

[rugged jasper]

hmm 🤭

[white dawn]

Rail ends up with really staggering amounts of throughput potential

[rugged jasper]

I think I am better off with my belts.
I can count on those ^^

[white dawn]

With belts, if you want to run new lines somewhere you've got to go manually lay down ever-increasing amount of beltwork. Whereas with trains it's just adding in a new spur + station somewhere and then setting the schedules

[zenith pecan]

Once you have the timing down, rail can shift a monster amount of stuff, I use a lot of belts everywhere myself, but I'm not going to ignore rail, also looks cool and makes the map look more alive.

[white dawn]

I'm honestly not trying to convince you to change how you're building; if you're happy enough with belts, then stick with it. :) But trains/rail is also 100% reliable once you know how to use 'em

My main point was just that if you wait until you're "done" with the game to try out rail, you're likely to come away unimpressed

Investing in rail early is the way to get the most "bang for your buck" out of 'em

[rugged jasper]

I only want a train to drive me around ❤️

😄

[white dawn]

Yeah, pioneer transit is a great advantage for rail as well. :D

[zenith pecan]

My tunnel network doesn't work well for trains unfortunately.

[white dawn]

Though again: building out that network when you're already "done" might feel like a hell of a lot of work. :)

I generally just start small and let my network build out organically. A single A->B transfer at first. Then whenever another factory needs rail I'll hook that up, and so on. :P

I know I personally definitely don't have the patience/drive to put together a "mapwide" rail network all in one go

[zenith pecan]

Still easier than my map wide tunnel network 😛

[rugged jasper]

Oh I will ❤️

[white dawn]

Anyway, I realize I sound like I'm advocating hard; not really my intention!

On my first playthrough rail was a bit simpler to deal with; trains didn't collide and I didn't care about breaking immersion by having trains just phasing right through each other. :D

[zenith pecan]

And when I say tunnel network, I mean it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga4LcICPnkI , old clip but an example of what I have threaded throughout the map.

[white dawn]

We've got all this magical matter-conversion FICSIT tech anyway; who's to say that these trains don't each occupy slightly different phases of reality? :D

[rugged jasper]

I will go off and make dinner.
I think tonight is going to be fried pork, potatoes and parsley sauce. ❤️

see you all later 🙂
have fun ^^

[void cliff]

If only I could COOK 🥘 as well as I can cook 🚂

[valid timber]

@rugged jasper #screenshots message

[fickle locust]

One of my saves is called "I'm Not Fixing Trains" and was started when an update completely broke my world-spanning, single-track, push-pull train system that entirely relied on trains not having collision

[zenith pecan]

I had one rail setup that was just a train set and crash zone, I just haven't used used them as much as I could.

[rugged jasper]

i am cooking ^^ will be back later ❤️

looks great !

[valid timber]

All good! Enjoy your meal!

[glad hawk]

How you make tunnels man

[zenith pecan]

Here's a primer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

[fickle locust]

Looks like a space elevator is about to get fed!

[valid timber]

@wispy condor maybe if you didn't have the unmatched power of the sun on your world it would run smoothly #screenshots message

[valid timber]

sure is! (I've been dicking around avoiding doing this for like 30 hours on phase 2 so its definitly about time)

[wispy condor]

ofc but i only have 7 Tw and im max consumming almost 10 ( without augmenters )

[quasi warren]

Nope. It is unlocked tiers 3 and 4. But its unlocked in the awesome shop

I forgot how many coupons it costs tho

[zenith pecan]

7Tw, what kind of setup do you have to generate that much?

[quasi warren]

Prob fuel gens

[fickle locust]

I think it's nuclear but his pictures are so zoomed out I can't even tell 😂

[fading whale]

You build a foundation. Put walls on two opposing sides. Another foundation on top. Boom. Tunnel.
Now you just scale and lengthen to what you need 🙂

[wispy condor]

many things
1008 npp at 200% + many turbofuel gens ( old production w the 150 Mw so idk )

[hazy topaz]

Hey yall! Do you guys know how to add miners to the satisfactory tools production planning website 😭

[wispy condor]

actually im trying to make 900 npps ( 600 plutonium and 300 ficsonium )

[quasi warren]

That looks like a ton of nuclear gens

[wispy condor]

i don't think the gens are getting me laggy
i've made 68 Tw of nuke and 76 Tw of rocket fuel in 2 differents creative saves ( i'm glitching the game in order to have more ores / min so i can build like this ( everything can be do in vanilla ) )

i just think a 5 Yo save need a lot of clean up

[zenith pecan]

I never tried that many nuclear generators, No clue how to get that much uranium.

[fading whale]

@wispy condor Are you by any chance using the cyrillic alphabet? 🙂

[wispy condor]

nope , why ?🙂

[fading whale]

Just a stray thought from something you wrote. Was just curious. Don't put anything into it.

[zenith pecan]

I'm not seeing examples of "ЯШЕРТЫИ"

[wispy condor]

oh i see , english is not my 1st language ;)

[fading whale]

A lot of those here. Myself included.

[reef basin]

that sounds like... extremely a lot

[fading whale]

It's just a few extra zeroes. Shouldn't make any difference 😄

[quasi warren]

I keep forgetting to use drones ngl

[reef basin]

I somehow doubt you've built 121600 fully clocked fuel gens for the 76 TW of rocket fuel

[fading whale]

Just need to build up.

[quasi warren]

I keep forgetting to build up

[fading whale]

What DO you remember? 😆

[quasi warren]

Not much apparently XD

[fading whale]

Oh well... As long as you don't know what you're missing, are you really missing it?

[quasi warren]

I remember I unlocked trains and I never used them

[reef basin]

why do you need miners? it tells you how much ore you need

[quasi warren]

Cause I completely forgot I even unlocked it XD

[zenith pecan]

Lack of resources on the map unless some ridiculous mod is in play.

[reef basin]

they said they are using glitches, though my point is about building + piping 121k fuel gens (not to mention the factory itself)

[zenith pecan]

I went a little overboard producing 1Tw and that took up a fair clip of oil and other materials.

[wispy condor]

yeah , it was at 240 % so a little bit more ;)

[wispy condor]

vanilla +Q.O.L
No mods for getting the ressources

[zenith pecan]

121k generators? how without making the pc crash out though, I saw mine slow down just by being nearby just under 1k, and while old, is definitely no potato.

[wispy condor]

i'm gonna post it on #screenshots let me find it you will see how i did that ( extremely simple )

#screenshots message here it is

[zenith pecan]

Ew that clipping. just where are you getting the fuel to run it?

[reef basin]

hm, that looks like save-edit copy-pasting

or any mod copy-pasting

[wispy condor]

nop
blueprints

[reef basin]

you can't BP a water extractor

[wispy condor]

btw the only things that are clipping are the gens

[wispy condor]

you can

[reef basin]

afaik not in vanilla

[wispy condor]

you can play with it in vanilla ;)

[zenith pecan]

I've tried all sorts of ways of blueprinting water extractors and miners, never worked.

[wispy condor]

just check some of them on the satisfactory calculator
i did mine , used a mod to create it but i turned off it because idc about having such those mods i want to have my save ( for me ) playable and loadble without any mods

[reef basin]

the ones on SCIM are very often modded

[ornate saffron]

Did you ever try sinking you blueprinter into the water using hold then nudging?

[wispy condor]

you can't , you have a security

[zenith pecan]

I do have a flooded printer, I probably need to experiment with it more.

[wispy condor]

yep , but you can play with it in vanilla just need to bug abuse / glitch
( not often , always )

[reef basin]

I don't consider "getting a third-party modded BP" as vanilla

[wispy condor]

personally idc how i made my bp , i just want them playable on vanilla
( i used the water only because of the lag , 100% sure if a 280Mb save will run perfectly smooth all the solid and liquid extractors i put them right next to the ores )

[keen lion]

Is there anyway to speed up the splitters and mergers?

[zenith pecan]

Building oversize prints with the limited inventory/depot space just feels impossible.

[reef basin]

they have infinite speeds

[wispy condor]

better belts

[wispy condor]

in #screenshots message it's a creative save
on my main one i just have a "little" storage

[zenith pecan]

Oh right, I've never played a creative, that explains the impossible numbers.

[unkempt blade]

Thought I do like having limits like those. They make it feel more like a puzzle and less like I'm just slamming as much into it as I can

[wispy condor]

( the nuclear is not a creative save )

[wispy condor]

after almost 6 years of playing when i used to build with the limits personally i find that more attractiive
( i like also to play with them , only when i want to make small things )

[west sluice]

Am i going to need a lot of automated wiring after phase 2 too?

[reef basin]

you may, yeah

it also gives decent sink points, so even if you didn't need it, you could just sink it

[hazy topaz]

Well I had 3 normal iron nodes and I wanted to automate iron rod, plate, screw and reinforced iron plate production. However I didn't know how much I wanted to make, but I figured it out!~

[wispy condor]

yeah , you will need many

[west sluice]

mANY???

How many??

[reef basin]

do you really want to get the game spoiled?

[west sluice]

huh?

oh SPOILED

[fickle locust]

All the parts you make for Space Elevator Phase 2 are used in the construction process for the parts in Space Elevator Phase 3
And guess what you use for the Phase 4 parts...

[reef basin]

nvm already spoiled

[zenith pecan]

Yeah ||spoilers|| etc

[west sluice]

ahhh i didnt mind a little spoiler

[west sluice]

thanks! i wanted some confirmation on the matter since my automated wiring set up requires 500 copper a minute on mk2 belts only and i was REALLY apprehensive on doing that but aaaaaaa alright then

[reef basin]

500/min is very small amount of copper tbh

[west sluice]

I M O N PHASE TWO

[zenith pecan]

Early space elevator components continuing to be made is a reasonable source of ficsit coupons.

[fickle locust]

Yeah that's a lot when you're having to do smelters into constructors

That said, there's not really a reason you need to make that much automated wire per minute
It's very valid to have a minimum viable setup and let these things run for a while as you do other stuff

I throw together a single basic chain and then go hard drive hunting for an hour, set up a new base somewhere, etc.

[west sluice]

ohhh i see

i might do that, i'm just scared since my computer is prone to exceeding cpu temps of 100 celsius when running the game for a long while which is why i want high output

Might just afk and let my computer rest with 1-2 hour intervals

[fickle locust]

You need 100 for the elevator, a single assembler will make 2.5 per minute
So 40 minutes and it's done

But tbh that makes me say you should take a look at your CPU cooler. What are your system specs, is this an old computer?

[west sluice]

i have no earthly idea, its a prebuilt from 2018-2019 ish. i appreciate you're willing to help on the matter though i'm okay with how it is rn, though if i come running back crying about how my shitty computer can't boot the game then you have every right to tell me 'i told you so' haha

The constant screen flickering issues builds character!

[fickle locust]

I ran on a 2012 machine up until 2024 so I'm very familiar with the pain of old computer struggles with newer games

Now I'm on a fancy new one and Satisfactory feels a lot better 🙂

[west sluice]

that's great! i hope to share this feeling once buying a new rig becomes financially viable for me!

[zenith pecan]

Need the AI bubble to well and truly burst for prices to return to even remotely reasonable, storage, ram and gpus are out in fantasy land at the moment.

[hidden pebble]

Not gonna become that in the near future. And drum beat we all know who's the culprit.

[placid stirrup]

But how else am I gonna watch videos of Rambo cats playing baseball with alligators?!?

[void cliff]

I bought a new PC this year. Felt like a decent deal, was a Newegg special. i9 processor, 5070 Ti, 32 gb 6400 MHz ram for like $1800. The old rig is now the satisfactory server.

[hazy topaz]

lmao my game crashed and I didn’t get a chance to save

time to see how much progress i lost

[keen lion]

How big of a game is satisfactory just to know what I'm getting into I'm currently in tier two can easily reach three

[frosty mirage]

Thoughts on alt polymer resin?

[frosty mirage]

Good idea to use it to get resin for sink and heavy oil residue for alt diluted packaged fuel?

[white dawn]

Mostly it's just a byproduct. Useful for getting some extra rubber+plastic. It's also how you fully automate Fabric production, for Gas Filters -> Iodine Filters (via an alt recipe available via the MAM)

[white dawn]

A typical playthrough is likely to at least approach 100 hours (though it's certainly possible to rush through more quickly if you're focused); folks who get hooked often spend thousands in the game

If you just mean tier two (as in: you're still burning bio fuels for power), then you have the vast bulk of the game still ahead of you

(That's honestly still mostly true even if you mean Phase 2 (ie: coal power) though Phase 2's a bigger chunk than Phase 1)

[void cliff]

If you’re already in phase 2-3 you have seen the basics of it. Now imagine every step requires a pyramid of more sub-components building up to a final part.

Parts get more complex requiring more and more factories. Logistics comes into the game via trains, drones, or trucks but it can mostly be ignored by using belts, pipes, and the dimensional depot.

The game has a wealth of ways to play it and you can spend hours just sitting there scratching your head in game.

If you just want to beat the game there are easy ways to shortcut everything in the game.

If you want to learn everything about the game and perfect architecture and aesthetics this game can burn thousands and thousands of hours.

[keen lion]

well looks like im gonna have fun im already dreading the big factories before being even remotely close to them

[void cliff]

In phase 2 you have that one ball-shaped project part (something unit) that takes computers and HMF’s. There’s shortcuts to completely bypass even building factories for these because each phase takes finite parts. I’ve done phase 2 without building beyond basic steel manufacturing. Crash sites have components and there’s always manual crafting. But the best and fastest way to beat the game is by using blueprints. People talk about HMF factories taking tens of hours to set up, I can make a blueprint in 2 hours, copy and paste it 20-30 times, and I’m making more HMF’s than a giant hand-crafted factory.

[keen lion]

in my opinion the blueprints sound awesome and honestly life saving but i want to make most factories myself if not all and when the project is repetitive i use the blueprints i mean i wanna experience 100% of the game even if the factories are kinda useless except if i lazed out on making them lol which tbh would be most of the time

[void cliff]

A lot of stuff in future phases makes building factories much easier, like the hover pack and having rocket fuel, I guess that’s the point of taking shortcuts 🙂

people who are better at the game than I am will use blueprints in a modular fashion to set up semi-hand-crafted mega factories

[reef basin]

people who are better at the game usually don't do megafactories 😛

[quasi warren]

I usually only do mega-factories when I need to make a ton of one resource in an area. Which... could still be considered modular.

[reef basin]

you can only have one megafactory by definition 🙂

[quasi warren]

I dont do that T-T

Hard to expand later on.

[reef basin]

megafactory = all production in one place

[quasi warren]

If I need more of one resource, but my factory is at a set size. I get annoyed. Tear things down. Rebuild. Only to rebuild it again later on

I like modular cause its expandable

[reef basin]

rebuilding is usually waste of time

[dawn scroll]

This is quite literally not the definition to 'megafactory'

[reef basin]

it very much is

A "megafactory" in Satisfactory is a massive, centralized, and often multi-story production facility designed to process a huge volume of resources in one location, aiming for high-output, complex parts.

[zealous mesa]

No

[reef basin]

see also tons of videos titled "megafactories vs modular factories"

[zealous mesa]

Mega
adjective
adjective: mega

very large; huge.

factory
noun
noun: factory; plural noun: factories

1.
a building or group of buildings where goods are manufactured or assembled chiefly by machine.

[reef basin]

I'm aware what "mega" means

[zealous mesa]

Wrong on all counts greeny

[reef basin]

but that's not "megafactory"

[zealous mesa]

Definitions matter

[reef basin]

it's one word

not two words

[cerulean pumice]

Greeny isn't very smart, let him be

[quasi warren]

Satisfactory has its own definition of megafactory. I learned that

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752543820909903922/1465811091492700459/image.png?ex=697a7675&is=697924f5&hm=265702cb3ba06d8c46caf4838c128416b487846e3b30368c59968a158043cb0a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

also videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNUh5S2gPGQ

[dawn scroll]

mega factory is not a factory that all production occurs in one place

but, you do you

[reef basin]

it is in SF context

[fickle locust]

If you constantly have to tell other people what a word means, it's possible it doesn't mean that in common parlance

[quasi warren]

^

[reef basin]

same as "manifold" isn't just "pipe intake/exhaust" like in IRL, but it means "feeding with splitters + overflow"

[reef basin]

it's very often used in the community. Since it isn't used officially in the game, people may not know that the community uses that term. Doesn't make it wrong

[fickle locust]

I'm not going to lie, you're the only person I've seen who's this insistent on it
It doesn't so much feel like "the community" as it does you

[reef basin]

I've literally posted link to a video of a SF channel talking about it

[quasi warren]

I think totalXclipse (or however u spell his channel) has a video on megafactories

[reef basin]

yeah I was just looking for it, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQWtke0dz7Y

[white dawn]

Misuse of "megafactory" as a term isn't one of my personal bugbears, though I will say that its original definition (all production in one place) is a useful taxonomic term to describe a very specific setup. Its use as a more generic term to mean "really big factory" kind of dilutes its usefulness as a descriptor, without providing an alternative. I suppose that "all-in-one factory" or something could suffice, though IMO that's less stirring than megafactory. :D

That said, the war between descriptivists and prescriptivists rarely ends up being won by the prescriptivists -- I tend to try and resign myself to descriptivism in the end. Though I've certainly had my own bugbears that I've been willing to die on a hill for, in the past. :D

[feral jay]

I propose "Das Überfactory"

[reef basin]

we have "big factory" which is same amount of characters 🙂

or "gigafactory" if you want

[white dawn]

Mörë Ümläüts!!

[clear mesa]

[feral jay]

❤️ GTK Compose

[reef basin]

which shouldn't be a reason to result to personal insults tho 🤷 (not from you ofc)

[clear mesa]

It's odd how it always happens to you

[reef basin]

oh it happens to more people

I guess I just talk here often so those moments will statistically happen more often to me

[white dawn]

Heh, we've all got our trigger points. See how long it takes for me to start blathering about Independency when someone starts asking about centralization, etc. :D

[clear mesa]

I suppose

[white dawn]

And I can understand being annoyed by the erosion of an otherwise-useful taxonomic term to describe factory builds

[reef basin]

though it's also partially because there's just a few people who for some reason decided to start a personal war against me, if I was keeping track, I'm very sure there would be a lot of repeated names

[clear mesa]

This is more what i was referring to

[reef basin]

see also "bus" 🙂

[clear mesa]

It's reached a point where it doesn't feel like a coincidence to me 😭

[south juniper]

heyo , i have a joining a dedicated server question if anyone can point me in the right direction, my buddy and i are flailing epically rn

[clear mesa]

#dedicated-servers

You'd probably get better help there

[south juniper]

ur hte best!

[reef basin]

no, I know for a fact that there's some people who just decided to try to make my life hell or whatever. I couldn't care less, I don't really toss any insults back or anything and if it crosses a line, moderators are here to take care of it (and they did a few times in the past already)

[clear mesa]

Huh, I haven't been here long enough to realise it goes that deep..you must've really pissed them off :p

Whatever happened or whoever's fault it was...I just can't imagine prolonging it to this extent 😞

[reef basin]

this is beginning to be more #off-topic-general or probably DM territory, wouldn't want to bring back some drama

[clear mesa]

Would u mind the latter?

[reef basin]

not at all, my DMs are open

[placid stirrup]

Greeny is just in here more often than most, increasing the chances of the hair trigger confrontationalists to run into him. Tone in text is hard to decipher but he doesn't owe it to anyone to sugarcoat anything. The times I've seen people get upset with him aren't warranted at all

[obsidian quail]

It's his tone that throws people off mostly, but also his inability to be flexible.

[wanton cloud]

Genuinely is tractor transportation calculable or is it a spray and pray typa situation

[clear mesa]

Errr I know trains are but im not too familiar on people doing the same with trucks/tractors

Not sure why it would be any different though realistically

Still just need to take the time of the route

[wanton cloud]

yeah likely they transport as much items as you can stuff in a truck station per minute

[white dawn]

Pretty much just like trains/drones, the max throughput is a function of the round-trip time of the route plus the stack size of the items (since you know how many stacks the vehicle holds)

In practice I've never found it worth trying to actually calculate, since you won't know the RTT until you complete the route anyway

At least with vehicles it's trivial to scale up; if a single vehicle isn't enough, just add another to the route (probably staggered about halfway through the cycle)

[wanton cloud]

side note i just enter phase 3 so i can only operate with tractors

[white dawn]

I actually prefer tractors to trucks, actually

Though if you're in Phase 3 you're also right on the doorstep of trains, and while trains require a lot more work to set up the infrastructure, they're well worth investing in

[wanton cloud]

i've only got the tractors so that is what i prefer, unsuprisingly
Could i know why, though?

[white dawn]

The only real achilles heel for trains (apart from the infrastructure setup time) is that they're not great for shorter routes. Like I'd personally be unlikely to set up a route for anything shorter than like 1km. :)

[white dawn]

Trucks are just a lot more huge; I find it harder to record good routes with 'em, especially when trying to stick to "lanes" over terrain that might be a little constrained

[wanton cloud]

ah i figured it would be that

[white dawn]

Though honestly it's partially down to when they're unlocked -- you kind of get trains + trucks at nearly the same time, so trains often end up becoming my primary logistics method at that point

So it's sort of also a matter of just having a lot less experience with 'em

[fickle locust]

I wish you could draw vehicle paths on a map rather than it recording you driving them

[wanton cloud]

Only if the map includes foundations on it

[white dawn]

Though I'll continue to set up the occasional tractor route even into the lategame, depending on circumstance. I tend to not be fond of long belts across terrain, so if I need to bring something like 400m I may end up using tractors even if I'm in phase 5

[fickle locust]

I find whenever I try to drive it's a struggle to make sure I'm going to the right spot, and I spend so much time pausing/moving slowly/backtracking

[wanton cloud]

like satisfactory calculator style foundations on the map

[white dawn]

Hah, I admit I often scope out the path ahead of time and leave myself signs to remind me where to turn, etc. :D

[fickle locust]

I should do that, but it feels somehow wrong

[white dawn]

If you do pause while recording, btw, make sure to remove any blue "pause nodes" left on the route, afterwards. There's a bug in the game where if you load a save which had a tractor at a pause node, the tractor can get stuck until you manually intervene

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, it does mean like double the time required to lay down a route. :D

Once you're more familiar with the map it becomes a bit easier to remember where exactly to go though

[fickle locust]

Yeah I do that to try and clean things up, but now I have to run back around the route doing it... trains are just so much easier

[fiery venture]

Anyone on Xbox fancy helping me with coal power? I’m tier 4 on my first ever play through.

[white dawn]

#1201555265942724758

[fickle locust]

I have 650 hours but still take wrong turns when I get in the trucks...

[white dawn]

IMO trains are still quite a bit more work overall, but the benefits of it are fantastic. I love vehicles in the game, but I also love trains. (Also drones!)

I'm an equal-opportunity logistics lover! (Well, or not -- I suppose I'm not fond of long belts.)

[fiery venture]

What do I # in the post?

[graceful wagon]

still nothing about 1.2?

[fickle locust]

I tried to do more work with trucks in this save, started in dune desert and looked for opportunities to use them... and now my train stations are named #41 because I've overrun the name list

[white dawn]

Nothing new for awhile, no. We should at least start getting some more streams and stuff pretty soon though, if nothing else

[clear mesa]

Praying for dev stream next weekend

[white dawn]

I dunno; take a look at some other posts to see some examples, I guess?

[graceful wagon]

👍

going back to hibernation

[golden elbow]

Painful urge to start fresh, about to make trains and stuff but my original factories are such a mess and use up all my nodes </3

[white dawn]

Sounds like it's time to expand! It's a huge map out there, with lots of great factory-building spots. :)

If you can get yourself into an Expansion Mindset™, problems like "used up all my nodes" kind of disappear. (And also give you plenty of opportunities to make good use of those trains you're building out. :)

[golden elbow]

Yeah, but It's to the point that I'm i ndesperate need to just redo the whole place! Outdated miners, poorly placed factory, etc etc

[white dawn]

I always recommend just leaving it as-is. Rebuild if you want, of course, and if you know you'll have fun doing it! But it's easy to get caught in a "rebuilding trap" and it can often be a recipe for burnout

A lot of effort spent just to get yourself back up to the same level of functionality you already had before, etc

It really is a huge map, with far more resources on it than many people think. If you expand, I promise you will not miss leaving those original resource nodes alone. :)

You really have to specifically try to literally exhaust resources on the map, and building on that scale isn't for the faint of heart. Just about the only exception is SAM, which can be easy to run out of if you end up trying to build out really big nuclear setups which process all the way to Ficsonium.

[rain hollow]

I'm about to have an absurd amount of power shards

[white dawn]

(It's also not super unusual to see folks specifically processing all-the-bauxite-on-the-map into aluminum ingots, though that's definitely veering into megaproject territory)

[golden elbow]

I've just gotta work on setting up a lot of resources, for now, which is a pretty major undertaking with minimal percieved "progress" I guess

[white dawn]

Heh, I swear I do try to get through a conversation like this without starting to talk about Independency, but here goes: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency <- Independency IMO often ends up "solving" the kinds of problems I suspect you're running into

Basically: each factory goes from ore->product, generally sitting right next to the nodes that it needs. The factory only outputs to your own personal storage. You make like 10/min Rotors and those rotors are just for your own Build Gun use. Whenever any other factory needs more rotors, you just make more right inside that new factory

[untold moat]

Right, I'm doing another save, does anyone have any interesting limitations/constraints that I should try?

[white dawn]

Each factory becomes basically a totally-isolated thing, and you're never gathering more resources in one spot than you need for that one resource.

[mortal ginkgo]

tap only impure limestone nodes #nobias

[white dawn]

Having trains available is a great boon to that kind of playstyle, since the map's your oyster at that point

[clear mesa]

Tap everything but impure limestone nodes

[mortal ginkgo]

BROOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[storm scroll]

Yooo hello question for anyone fairly new to satisfactory and struggling to make my space is it a good idea to build on top of each other when playing a lot or better to keep everything at a similar height ??

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, even game tells you to go vertical. sky is free real estate

[untold moat]

<turbo ammo firing.wav>

[white dawn]

I often end up doing that but setting up "subfactories" for more complex parts. Like I'll probably be processing oil into rubber/plastic somewhere near an oil node and then sending that rubber/plastic off to the factory which needs it. But the trick is that that export is specifically for that new factory. I'm not, like, making a bunch of plastic and then hoping I find a use for it later

[untold moat]

It depends. Verticality does set this game apart from some of the other automation games

[storm scroll]

Ahh ok thank you I’m trying to build my smelters and stuff in my bottom floor at the moment. And the build up with my more complex stuff up at the top

[untold moat]

Something to definitely ensure is that you have a good way of moving between levels

[storm scroll]

Ahh fair never even thought about that

[wanton cloud]

yall

im doing some tech 1 tier ahead of oil processing

mk4 belts

and i need some rubber, and ik i can find em on crash sites, but how do i know which sites have them?

[pastel dawn]

Spoken like a true spaghetti lover

[reef basin]

well you can look for it, or use some online map or something (though that would spoil you the whole map)

[reef basin]

eh, not really

[white dawn]

SCIM actually doesn't have crash-site debris; it's not populated on the map until the Pioneer gets near, and I think their data-extraction stuff doesn't get to that

[placid stirrup]

A bit like "A Man Named Otto" 😜

[white dawn]

(It would have any crash-site debris from an uploaded save, for sites that the Pioneer's gotten close enough to, but AFAIK it doesn't have the data in general)

[wanton cloud]

darn so it's kinda impossible?

[fluid crow]

the stuff that's at crash sites is dependent on your progress

[white dawn]

Someone did send me this link recently. Can't vouch for it, but maybe it's accurate? (Will post on the next line in case the URL filter eats it...)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2661233686

Aha, seems safe! Anyway, give that a try. I know that someone had been working on populating a list on the wiki, too, though last I checked it was rather incomplete

[white dawn]

Nope, it's entirely predetermined and "baked in" to the map data; doesn't depend on your progress at all.

It's more just that the crash sites near the four starting zones tend to be some of the more "boring" ones. :)

[fluid crow]

as soon as you unlock the items for a new phase you start finding more advanced items at the crash sites

[white dawn]

That's not true. Scavenging crash sites is one way that people spin up Geothermal even in Phase 1

[slate python]

How do you cycle through your hot bar (for lack of better terms)

[fluid crow]

so you find computers and stuff in phase one because I haven't

[white dawn]

Yes

[pastel dawn]

Satisfactory can literally make you a better person if you learn discipline. The "never rebuild" guys they also don't rebuild themselves in life. There's a lesson somewhere in that.

[fluid crow]

or a supper computer or turbo motor? I never found any off these things at crash sites until I was in the phase that used them

[white dawn]

You're saying that our cells have superpowers that allow them to live forever? Awesome!

[pastel dawn]

You read good, sir.

[white dawn]

As I say, crash site scavenging is how people can spin up geothermal in Phase 1

[pastel dawn]

Also, I think all cells are inherently immortal but DNA tells them to age, right?

[wanton cloud]

man sifting thourgh all the pods is gonna be a pain, any way to search for the word rubber specifically?

[pastel dawn]

This is best strategy

[wanton cloud]

i think it doesn't tell them but rather gets damaged, no?

[pastel dawn]

Get all the good stuff before start real builds

[pastel dawn]

Our cells regenerate every 7 years

[wanton cloud]

each copy of a cell is worse than the previous one, not noticeable, but in 70 years it piles up

[pastel dawn]

Technically youre not the same person you were 7 years ago

[wanton cloud]

you are, the person is it's neural system, which doesnt regenerate, ever.
you are the same person in a rebuilt flesh suit

[pastel dawn]

SKin cells constantly regenerate this is why tattoos migrate

[pastel dawn]

Pass the pipe over here sooooon lemme get some of that

It's not opinion, just fun though experiment.

[wanton cloud]

brother YOU are the one with a za smoker in the PFP

[pastel dawn]

But this doesn't correlate to what I said since I was talking about cells.

And flesh suit? Sounds like donnie darko.

Have to be smoking something to warch that movie

[wanton cloud]

what the hell could a nerve be if not a cell?

[pastel dawn]

Dear lord

[dire salmon]

why do people not like the fluid freight cart for me it feels like its encouraging you to use the packager which you unlock at a similar time to the train
or i might be stupid

[pastel dawn]

There arte thousands probably tens of thousands of axions in a nerve fiber

[white dawn]

Fluid freight cars are fine; they've got a bad reputation possibly due to old bugs which have since been fixed, or partially because figuring out good buffering mechanisms for them can be tricky

[wanton cloud]

my bad, a neuron? better expression

[white dawn]

They work just fine, though. For liquids at least. It's worth noting that gasses in particular don't work well with buffers, so if you're transporting gasses it's basically always best to package 'em instead

[dire salmon]

yeah or if you are a psychopath you can pipe them since they dont need head lift

[white dawn]

Two fluid-freight-car buffer methods which should work well, fwiw: #design-and-architecture message / #design-and-architecture message

[pastel dawn]

More AI searches, bro

[placid stirrup]

I had this backwards for the longest time. It's double capacity to package fluids for transport, right? What's the ratio for packaging gases?

[pastel dawn]

Youll get there

[wanton cloud]

huh

[white dawn]

I think it's actually only really nitrogen which compresses so much better; it's a 4x compression for that. Other gasses like rocket fuel are still just the usual 2x

But gasses apparently just really don't like buffers, so you'd want to package those anyway. (Disclaimer: I admit that I've never actually done any testing myself w/ gasses + buffers; I'm relying on other folks' statements re: buffers+gasses not playing well together)

[placid stirrup]

Was the bug related to packaging densities? I could've sworn I saw on multiple occasions people saying it's half as efficient to package fluids

[pastel dawn]

Small nerve branch: ~0.1–1 million total cells over its length

Medium limb nerve: ~a few million total cells

Very large trunk (e.g., sciatic-scale): potentially tens of millions of cells

[placid stirrup]

Then on a friend's save I did the math and confirmed the double density myself

[pastel dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-out-crazy-gif-11927272

[placid stirrup]

Holy #off-topic-general Batman

[pastel dawn]

Now you know.

[winter island]

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[real shale]

What

[dire salmon]

is rocket fuel the best for fuel generators
i want to have giant power plants of each type of power source (except biomass) on my world and i want to know if i should stay at turbofuel or upgrade to rocket fuel

[placid stirrup]

Rocket fuel is great, ion is where you see diminished returns

[white dawn]

"best" is generally impossible to answer in the game, though in this case: by most metrics, yes, Rocket Fuel is the most bang for your buck for oil power, by just about any measure. :)

[placid stirrup]

You don't necessarily need giant plants of both rocket AND nuclear though... Modest ones of each will provide enough power for anyone's purposes

[white dawn]

The only real downside to Rocket Fuel power is Endless Fuel Gen Spam™, though that can be mitigated by blueprints + overclocking

[dire salmon]

ive been using turbofuel and its getting me around 20000 mw for my big one and 10000 for my smaller one

[placid stirrup]

hey, I'm bloopin' here!

[white dawn]

(That plus potential 600/min piping issues, if you choose to send 600/min down your RF pipes. :)

[ornate saffron]

that seems low

[dire salmon]

im not using the entire resource well for my big one

im using the one on the islands for it

[placid stirrup]

Do you have HOR and diluted alts?

[ornate saffron]

My diluted package fuel Refinery gives me 18000 for 300 oil

[dire salmon]

what is a hor

im bad at the game

[placid stirrup]

heavenly ordained religion heavy oil residue. Both in conjunction provide a ~4x output of preferred fuel iirc

[dire salmon]

no
should i be using it because my friend had a plastic plant nearby that is making heavy oil residue

[placid stirrup]

It's the greatest increase of strictly fuel you can have as far as alts go

[dire salmon]

mkay

i dont think i have diluted fuel tho but ill check tmrw im in bed right now

[ornate saffron]

mmmm beed

[dire salmon]

beef..

[ornate saffron]

I wish i was in bed

[dire salmon]

to be more specific i am on the floor with a blanket over me because my bed is super uncomfortable

like
the springs dig into my back

[ornate saffron]

I am familiar

[dire salmon]

i wish you could actually interact with the stuff in the hub

like you could fill your coffee mug item with actual coffee from the machine

[ornate saffron]

The toilet works

[dire salmon]

i know

[placid stirrup]

You can interact with a ton in the HUB

[dire salmon]

i know that too but it would be funny if it actually did significant stuff
like filling up you coffee cup with water or coffee and if you drink the water you explode or something because it says do not drink

[placid stirrup]

Plenty of other Easter eggs you can find in the game 😉

[ornate saffron]

You can get the deep rock Galactic OST and play it on the boombox

[dire salmon]

i found that one tape in the dune desert but i dont remember what it was

[fluid crow]

and the huntdown soundtrack

[dire salmon]

it was that one i think

[ornate saffron]

The Worst of Goat simulator is the bnest free item

[fluid crow]

yea I think that's where I got it

all the tapes are pretty good even the ficsmas ones

[ornate saffron]

Espicially when you drop da bass

[fluid crow]

huntdown is one of the only newer games I've played that holds up as an 80s arcade game

gotta pump up the turbo bass

[dire salmon]

does it actually deal damage or is just there for fun

[fluid crow]

it deals 1 damage

[ornate saffron]

it does one damage but it pushes enemies back. This can launch them off of cliffs

[dire salmon]

they should make it fling enemies like
a kilometer if theyre in the blast radius

[sterile blade]

What's the best in the Worst of Goat Simulator?

[fluid crow]

(1 damage kills bees)

[sterile blade]

Back in my days, bees had enough HP to have nobelisks stuck to them 👴

[ornate saffron]

Not sure, the whole Cassette slaps

[quasi warren]

Terrifying

[ornate saffron]

I would say "It whips the Llamas ass"

[fluid crow]

I thought that was winamp

[ornate saffron]

It can be both

[sterile blade]

But also fun!
#screenshots message

[fluid crow]

I use the turbo bass to scare off the land whales

[sterile blade]

... Imagine replicating this with Clusterisks or Nukelisks

[ornate saffron]

Thats STEVE to you!!!1

[rain hollow]

I JUST FINISHED PHASE 3!!!

[dire salmon]

gl

[fluid crow]

those steves are overpopulating or something😮‍💨

[ornate saffron]

Praise the Sun

[rain hollow]

I'm ready for NUKES

[ornate saffron]

Naw, they just curious

[ornate saffron]

nono you ready for Aluminum

[fluid crow]

congratulations get ready for more exciting work!

[dire salmon]

no you are not you are ready for POWER

[dire salmon]

its like the monsters vs aliens things where theyre feeding him carrot mush but in this case its more work

[rain hollow]

Nukes first, then power

[fluid crow]

It sounds pretty real life ngl

[dire salmon]

you will NEED POWER

also guys is it normal to get production amplification and the alien power augmenter in phase 6 cause thats what i did

[rain hollow]

I DON'T CARE! I WANT NUKES AND DESTRUCTION!

[ornate saffron]

It can be. I got it in phase 2

[dire salmon]

i just explored wrecks until i found enough computers

[ornate saffron]

think you ment tier 6 btw

[dire salmon]

oh yeah

[rain hollow]

Holy procrastination that would take forever

[dire salmon]

once i got it in tier 4 i think but i dont remember

but on this save my alien power augmentors are giving me a power boost of 13k

[ornate saffron]

its not so bad.

[fluid crow]

tier phase 4 is great ||hoverpack||

[dire salmon]

i think there are some wrecks with computers near the grasslands area

[ornate saffron]

phase 4

[rain hollow]

You mean phase 4?

[fluid crow]

yea

[dire salmon]

im currently on phase 5 this is the furthest i have ever gotten cuz im playing with my friend

[ornate saffron]

ITs a tuff Phase

[dire salmon]

were workig on portals

[ornate saffron]

its a nice to have.

[tranquil saffron]

creative builder here loving this game on my third save... building perfect motor factories just to enjoy the aesthetic. such a beautiful game... was surprised to hear it comes from the makers of Valheim, another game I would almost play; but alas grind.

[reef basin]

it doesn't come from the makers of valheim

[tranquil saffron]

Coffee Stain?

[reef basin]

yeah, coffee stain didn't make valheim

Iron Gate Studio did

[dull pine]

Valheim was developed by Iron Gate Studio in Sweden, coffee stain produced satisfactory

[tranquil saffron]

well it's on their steam page

[reef basin]

it's on Coffee Stain Publishing's page

[tranquil saffron]

https://store.steampowered.com/developer/coffeestain

[reef basin]

not Coffee Stain Studios

or I guess they have just Coffee Stain page

but Valheim was developed by Iron Gate Studio and published by Coffee Stain Publishing

[dull pine]

Well that's deff odd

[reef basin]

while Satisfactory was developed by Coffee Stain Studios and published (probably) by the Coffee Stain Publishing

same with DRG on their page, they only published it (and "they" isn't even the people that work on Satis)

[tranquil saffron]

does valheim have creative? i don't think so but just wondering, if it did i might play

[dense violet]

yeah teh way plublishing studios and dev studios just swap and work for each other it's often very hard to get a good bead on who is doing what.

[tranquil saffron]

well it's great they have such good titles under their belt, rarely see that for a name that isn't super well known. to the moon 🚀

[obsidian quail]

it can, with console commands or mods the make it easier to use console commands.

[tranquil saffron]

gotta say though, the man who made the "plop resources mod" is an actual lifesaver, saved my sanity as well as my presence in the game... i like doing things naturally but resources being 2000m away on the other side of the map is kind of crazy time consuming

[placid stirrup]

That's sort of an entire facet of the game, but if it's preventing you from continuing and feeling good about playing then more power to ya

[tranquil saffron]

It is, but it also doesn't allow you to build things very symmetrically. Placing resources really doesn't change a lot, other than the mindleslly long spaghetti belts stretching across the map getting in the way of transportation. placing resources in a way can make it even harder because now im compressing like 20 nodes around a factory and shoving it all in

[dense violet]

that... is a core aspect of the game. Management of plans and logistics between places

[tranquil saffron]

you don't say 😱

[dense violet]

you can just import resources and 'build symemetrically...

[tranquil saffron]

with drones? thats one way 😂

[obsidian quail]

trains

[placid stirrup]

Any transportation solution does it

[tranquil saffron]

lines, stretching across the map. we are looping 😂

[placid stirrup]

You don't even need to adhere to the global grid

[dense violet]

world grid is a trap anyway

[tranquil saffron]

but i love the grid

[placid stirrup]

It's situational

[dense violet]

you never have to physically connect grids across the map and even if you want to there are trivial ways to merge foundations of different grids together

[tranquil saffron]

also, does anyone know why my sink stopped giving me points for my motors? is it because i cheated or did something? was trying to figure that out

not that i even need sink on creative, was just wondering what may have happened cus i enjoy watching it

the grid is a truly amazing thing to have, not many games, if any at all have such a large snapping grid over such a big map

[pine owl]

Uh oh. does the sink have diminishing returns over time

That would make sense, but thats also a scary thought because I've been considering making an AWESOME™ factory specifically for feeding sinks and getting tickets

[warm finch]

quick question: are pumps (powered or not) needed to prevent gas blowback causing a stoppage?

[dense violet]

... gas blowback?

[warm finch]

each ticket costs exponentially more than the previous one.

[warm finch]

back flow, whatever it's called.

[dense violet]

it depends on how you set up your pipes

sometimes a powered pump can help keep directionality but it's not a cure all to pipe back flow

[warm finch]

I got 4 blenders feeding into a buffer, and then buffer feeding 144 fuel gens for rocket power

was wondering if a pump was needed between the buffer and the fuel gens

[tranquil saffron]

time to make that cheats world

[dense violet]

no , the solution to that is remove the buffer

[warm finch]

different items are worth different points. generally, the more complex it is to manufacture a item, the more points it's worth

[warm finch]

but i LOVE buffers.. can't use em with fluids as is... there has GOT to be a way to use em with gas lol

[tranquil saffron]

so i got a couple hundred tickets, then it really slowed down. like a lot

[dense violet]

buffers are bad with liquids
gasses HATE buffers with the fury of a thousand suns

[pine owl]

A COUPLE HUNDRED

[tranquil saffron]

um... yeah?

[pine owl]

Oh right, I forgot there's big ticket goal items

[dense violet]

just clip teh pipe through the buffer and pretend it's doing something.

it'll be just as effective and won't mess up your build

[crude canyon]

Ok I spent around 12 hours today playing satisfactory

My brain is fried

[warm finch]

well... shit. lol fair enough good suggestion

[warm finch]

how do I do that btw?

[pine owl]

I've never had more than, like, 10 tickets in my inventory at a time

[dense violet]

build the pipe from one end of hte buffer to the other side w/o actually connecting it up

it'll build through the buffer.

[pine owl]

(40 hours in, forgive me)

[dense violet]

you can clip belts and shit through machines too

[warm finch]

yup that worked. thanks. I was overthinking

[tranquil saffron]

satisfactory is peak game i've played a ton of building games over the years and the engine on this one is insane, it seriously cooks

[pine owl]

I gotta get on that business soon tbh, I'm working on a main citadel thing and I don't think I'm getting much farther without finally unlocking myself the elevators, lights, beams, structural frames, and steel framed windows

I mean, I can, but it will be unsightly

[warm finch]

it gets better. don't play in creative mode, ruins your first time playthrough imo

[tranquil saffron]

citadel in satisfactory

[tranquil saffron]

that's why i'm on my third

[pine owl]

Lossless dismantling might be one of my favorite QoL features in any game, ever

[tranquil saffron]

"don't play in creative mode they said" ... are you mad?

[woeful oasis]

Quick question, does anyone have a high-quality or at least bigger version of the sticker? I'm planning to use it for a 3d print but the version that I can copy from discord is so small that it looks like only a couple pixels when downloaded. Not sure if there's a specific place I should ask for this.

[indigo dove]

What channel can I ask about factory layouts in?

[tranquil saffron]

did u figure out how to highlight and delete a bunch at once? mmm that is so satisfying 😂

[dense violet]

is it more mathy and aesthetic ?

[warm finch]

#design-and-architecture is a good place

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta and #design-and-architecture

[pine owl]

Playing this game is a gift that keeps on giving because it's designed to just be fun, doesn't punish you for only playing how you want to, and has seemingly found a way to undermine all the issues that other games with similar features tend to struggle with pretty badly

[tranquil saffron]

"architecture" they said... haha get that word outta here, y'all are absurd 😂

[indigo dove]

I think mathy. I just want to figure out a good functional design for an early game factory. I tore down my starter factory and am trying to make something new.

[wooden jewel]

how do i know what alternate recipe to pick

[pine owl]

Brutalism is architecture

Oh, that missed

[dense violet]

prob math and meta then 🙂

[warm finch]

1200+ hours later....

[dense violet]

they are all good - pick one that is useful for your next project

[pine owl]

Brutalism is the philosophy of making something to be as simple and cheap as possible

[dense violet]

you can always access all recipes so you'll never miss out

[tranquil saffron]

absolutely not, Washington DC uses brutalism and they are building the most expensive 4 billion dollar building right now

insert coin to try again

[wooden jewel]

how do i do that

[pine owl]

The aesthetic is concrete, sure, but the philosophy is kinda like spaghetti conveyors here or using oak planks/logs/cobble only for a minecraft house

[dense violet]

there's more hard drives than recipes. You just get more hard drives

[wooden jewel]

ah

[pine owl]

DC is not brutalism, isn't it art decor??

[tranquil saffron]

most government buildings are brutalism, welcome to america child

[dense violet]

you are basically never locked out of content in this game and theres basically nothing you can do that you can't take back

except for blowing up trees and plants. Those are gone forever

[pine owl]

Yes, but the white house is definitely not... I prefer the simplicity of brutalism, the white house is way too complex and noisy to qualify, too many trims and columns and pretty accent walls

[tranquil saffron]

ofc the while house is not brutalism

the white house basement is brutalism 😉

[wooden jewel]

are synthetic power cells worth going into

even at tier 4 and 5?

[tranquil saffron]

the united states government has a demented, sick addiction to brutalism and i don't know what's wrong with them

can't teach an old dog new tricks i guess

[dense violet]

you can't make power shards until tier 9? :\

[void cliff]

Yeah kinda sucks lol…

I want to leave the slugs alone!

[wooden jewel]

i unlocked them so i guess i assumed i could

[dense violet]

just make do w/o them. Or use the save editor to gvie you shards.
you'll get through the milestones quick enough

[warm finch]

KILL EM ALL!

[warm finch]

do you have duplication unlocked?

[dense violet]

it has many parts and things that only can be made with t9 stuff

[wooden jewel]

great

[void cliff]

No. I don’t use mods or the save editor. I don’t want to even pick up a single shrubbery if I can help it!

[dense violet]

I mean up to you. The save editor can restore flora too

[wooden jewel]

Should I be selling resources i dont use to the awesome sink

[dense violet]

selling?

[tranquil saffron]

"i am not going to cut down a single tree" ... 10 mins later: "man, that tree is right where i want to build; there's enough trees there"

[dense violet]

sinking. right. I mean if you have enough stored up sure

[wooden jewel]

so if i have like 20k wire i should sink it right?

[warm finch]

every chance you get. make more than what you need and sink the rest

[dense violet]

if yo uwant 🙂

[wooden jewel]

ima use mk2 poles anyway so i will

[fleet olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-graham-chapman-zfrS4JMOihJD2

[wooden jewel]

how do i get back trucks that fell of the map

[dense violet]

save editor

or reload autosave

[white dawn]

If you're on PC, you can use SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map) to either delete or move the vehicle. On console there's no real options apart from loading a prior autosave, yeah

[wooden jewel]

how do i get it back from scim

[white dawn]

Load the save, look for the truck, right-click on it to get the various options. (Or something along those lines. I rarely use SCIM for actual editing so I generally just kind of poke around until I find what I'm looking for)

[hollow hemlock]

Just make a new one and maybe erect a shrine to the fallen truck(s)

[wooden jewel]

how do i load the save into it..

[hollow hemlock]

Interactive map tab, there's a button there to load an existing save file

[wooden jewel]

how do i drag the game save file into it

[dense violet]

just click the button you can select it from tehre

[hollow hemlock]

Click the load save button and use the file dialog

[wooden jewel]

how do i unlock the splitter that will only send something if a storage is full

[hollow hemlock]

Look in the mam, quartz or caterium trees

[lapis shadow]

Smart splitter, unlocked in the caterium research tree

[wooden jewel]

ok i have it how do i set i up to do that

[hollow hemlock]

Tell it to send any somewhere and overflow to your sink

Or storage or whatever

[wooden jewel]

so the splitter has to go before the storage?

[hollow hemlock]

You basically block one output to enable the other output to go, it has to be placed before the line that will block to tap off it

[wooden jewel]

i figured it out ty

[whole robin]

I find it really funny that circuit boards that were originally made with copper sheets and plastic can also be made from rubber and petroleum coke, with no adverse effects whatsoever

[rugged jasper]

How do I force delete some items that take all the space in my inventory ? I tried to drop some items outside the world line, but they just hover in the air now. 🥹 🥲

[dense violet]

just drag to trash?

[rugged jasper]

some items can't be deleted 🙂

[dense violet]

store them.

[hollow hemlock]

Recycle those into things that can be, or put em in a truck and drive it into a bottomless hole 😁

[lapis shadow]

Is heavy encased frame a very good recipe? I already have all the other recipes to make heavy modular frames out of only iron and limestone but I heard this one might be nice since it takes out screws. Not sure if it's really worth it though 🤷‍♂️

[dense violet]

Don't drive trucks into holes unless you want them falling forever taking up processing power

[rigid crypt]

is there way to make my power poles when connecting at first from a generator tier 2 and not one

[dense violet]

it reduces the total resource requirements too

[rugged jasper]

oh I dont want that

[dense violet]

build the power poles first

[rugged jasper]

great idea tho ! ^^

[lapis shadow]

oh cool im sold then

[hollow hemlock]

Then you may have another production line to set up

[lapis shadow]

How useful is the "coated iron canister" recipe. Looks amazing to me since it cuts out oil but idk I've never heard anyone mention it

[dense violet]

making containers is often a once off thing

so generally not much thought is put into it. And a lot of the things that need to be packaged often come with waste resin to make into plastic

[spare cradle]

I have question... How does one make a balancer

[dense violet]

depends on what you're trying to balance

so you'd have to present more details of what you're trying to do if you want a response

[spare cradle]

My context is that I want to learn more techniques.

[dense violet]

ok so the most generic response - you split and merge things as needed to get the parts per min you want on a number of belts

[pastel dawn]

Balancers are rarely pretty. Go manifold and feel all warm and fuzzy as your machine starts humming to full capacity.

[spare cradle]

... Fair enough

[dense violet]

you have to custom build and design balancers and load balancers for every situation you're in. Can't be any more specific w/o an actual situation you're in that you're working on

[spare cradle]

I understand

[warm finch]

@dense violet should I still add a powered pump after the blenders for nitro rocket?

[dense violet]

generally you don't need to no

if you get flow issues it'll probably be more of a layout issue

[ocean vector]

Guys...

Did they change the player scaling and I was unaware of it?

[warm finch]

what kind of layout would be an issue?

[ocean vector]

#screenshots This seems like we're much smaller than what I remember.

[dense violet]

general pipe layout problems - like running many manifold branches off one pipe instead of one manifold
running anything at 600 needs very clean piping

[warm finch]

I'm feeding 144 fuel gens with 1 mk2 pipe

[lapis shadow]

The most efficient way of making rein-iron plates is using iron wire recipe and stitched iron plate right?

[ocean vector]

Someone let me know?

[dense violet]

yeah you'd have ot make a #1038092680493801533 post with how you've laid it out

often times you need to loop your manifold

[warm finch]

I'm a dumb dumb. I forgot to underclock 1 fuel gen for each bank

[dense violet]

it happens

[drowsy kelp]

how's satisfactory on mac

[lapis shadow]

@dense violet Do you know master?

[ocean vector]

Am I goin nuts here?

[lapis shadow]

Satisfactoy Modeler gotta be one of the least intuitive systems of all time

[spare cradle]

Possible

[pastel dawn]

Something a man never wants to hear.

[ocean vector]

I just think my character is shorter than they should be.

[rigid crypt]

is Silicon Circuit Board alt good?

[hollow hemlock]

it depends on your needs and what materials you happen to have on hand/near by

[ocean vector]

I think all the alts have acceptable purpose, and most alters are outright superior in some regard to their base recipe counterparts.

[rigid crypt]

should i go for turbo fuel over reg fuel early?

[rigid crypt]

gotcha ty

[fickle locust]

It's really nice for avoiding using oil products in your circuit boards

[warm finch]

most recipes are situational, not good or bad, it depends on how you want to set up your production chains

[rigid crypt]

trying to not build super factories and just going as is

[soft lark]

is there an IRL vehicle the explorer is based off or has anyone made a full scale replica of it?

[fickle locust]

There are a couple of nice spots where you can make the silica and copper together

[rigid crypt]

gotta build motor factory and getting into quartz and oil now

[rigid crypt]

at the rocky desert where that sam ore is in cave works great so far

[fickle locust]

Yup that's one of the best spots

[unborn nova]

copper powder is lowk crazy

[fickle locust]

The other two I'd highlight are the very top of the dune desert, and the area in the titan forest with triple versions of both nodes

[warm finch]

you can't really avoid it sadly. some stuff you're just gonna need sheer numbers of. can always go back and upgrade the belts, add more, etc.

[unborn nova]

why does it use so much copper

[rigid crypt]

yes tempted to just supersize motor and frames right now much as i can

phase 3 currently but gotta get into oil first

[ocean vector]

@willow pond I see your heathen call out and I tell you now, I tamed one in my first hours of play, before the achievements arrived, and my very first gift was uranium waste. I will NEVER befriend those things ever again after that.

[willow pond]

🤣

[ocean vector]

I won't destroy the ones befriended by others, but I will never allow them to live in my factory space.

[willow pond]

my goal with this save is to eventually get all of them into the nerdiest petting zoo ever

i don't think i've ever had more than 1

[warm finch]

it'll pay off if you plan to go big into oil. need TONS Of motors

[dense violet]

iron wire is a resource replacer - its very efficient for reducing the amount of copper you use

[dense violet]

yes I don't know why anyone uses it

[ocean vector]

I really feel like my character is something like, 80% of the size he's actually supposed to be.

[lapis shadow]

lol the videos I seen made it seem worth it but I'm losing hope as I try to learn it

[dense violet]

its ... more of a layout tool? I guess?
you have to do everything manually

[placid stirrup]

I've never even tried modeler or SCIM for the calculator, both look overwhelming for no reason though

[willow pond]

dumb question that's mildly technical

[placid stirrup]

#1038092680493801533 if it's involved, you can add photos to the post

[hidden pebble]

I just realised that it's this greeny who made satisfactory tools what a chad

[willow pond]

can you cover the entire map with foundations without melting the game engine

[hidden pebble]

There's an object limit... if it doesn't surpass that, and if your cpu can handle it, then yes.

[warm finch]

he's awesome

[placid stirrup]

I... Doubt it. Or if you could, you probably couldn't beat the game after that

[willow pond]

is the object limit a render thing, or a total map thing

[placid stirrup]

It's a game engine thing

[dense violet]

maybe if you have the best personal computer available, but your computer will still not be happy with you

[willow pond]

i mean........

[dense violet]

just get a mod that flattens the map if that's what you want

[willow pond]

wait, someone's actually done that?

what the hell does that even look like

[dense violet]

probably. People do really dumb things all the time

[placid stirrup]

Like me tonight rear ending someone

[willow pond]

i did see the one where someone tried to make the map into hexagons

[dense violet]

or just build over the ocean.

or , I know this is crazy, use the third dimension and build multiple floors for infinite flat space

[willow pond]

oh i wasn't planning on doing it 🤣 just didn't know if someone had decided to give it a legit go yet

[dense violet]

every time someone has sent me one of their saves with lots of floating sky platforms, their saves have always ran MUCH harder than bigger saves without the platforms

[warm finch]

wasn't there someone that built their entire factories/logistical chains below the map?

[dense violet]

make of that what you will

[dense violet]

Tunnel Rat, yup 😛 mostly just their long distance logistics

[warm finch]

that's right! I remember them lol

[placid stirrup]

I love whatever is wrong with their brain

[dense violet]

Taro is still about. And it's not really that much weirder than tons of belts above ground

[warm finch]

in game map is just an illusion

[willow pond]

SF does make me wanna send my gpu to one of those modders that solders double the vram to it

[spare cradle]

?

[willow pond]

i wanna do the console stuff to crank the graphics beyond standard, and lift the object limit

[spare cradle]

... Then do that at your own risk

[willow pond]

🤣

[spare cradle]

[placid stirrup]

Have fun don't die

[willow pond]

oh i ain't doing that

[orchid parcel]

If your hair is not on fire, you aren't really living.

[spare cradle]

Then no touching what they have it at default

[willow pond]

maybe in a few years

Kerbal Space Program is the only game i have that can actually max out my gpu's vram, so maybe once other games show up that start doing that

[spare cradle]

... How?

And why?

[willow pond]

an insulting amount of mods

[spare cradle]

-# your poor PC

[willow pond]

nah, finally got one that can handle just about anything

i do keep it throttled tho, cuz i don't want things to literally melt