satisfactory

[feral jay]

I just blueprinted a hypertube accelerator and upgraded my express lines, holy shit I go FAST now

[limpid orchid]

What tf is express lines?

[feral jay]

Once you start stacking 20 or 30 entrances, you really move

[merry tendon]

guys

im constantly running out of biomass

what do i do

[feral jay]

Just regular hypertubes, but they go longer distances and I've got hypertube cannons at the ends to go through them faster

[ebon cobalt]

deal with it and rush coal power

[merry tendon]

what tier is coal

[ornate saffron]

Make your way into phase 2 and unlock coal.

[limpid orchid]

I got 1 too then

[ebon cobalt]

t3 iirc
lemme check

[merry tendon]

thats gonna take a long time

[quasi warren]

Tier 3 unlocks it in the hub as a milestone

[ornate saffron]

You gotta build that space elevator and proceed

[merry tendon]

i did

[feral jay]

So rather than having tube stops in the middle of the rocky desert, then the islands, then the northern grasslands, and then finally my HMF factory there, I can just zip over to that factory in ten seconds now

[merry tendon]

i just did that

[quasi warren]

I need to set up hypertubes EVERYWHERE

[ornate saffron]

Then follow object. Build smart plating and feed the elevator

[ebon cobalt]

yup T3
150 reinforced iron plate
50 rotors
500 cable

[merry tendon]

i dont even have the recipe for that

[ornate saffron]

🤮 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤮

[quasi warren]

What? I love hypertubes

[ornate saffron]

Did you complete tier 1 and 2? If so you have it

[fluid crow]

I like my passenger trains the best right now

[ebon cobalt]

do T2 Part assembly
its made in the Assembler :P

[merry tendon]

gosh dude

[quasi warren]

And I dont have trains unlocked cause im still on tiers 3 and 4

[merry tendon]

im getting a chainsaw and getting unbeliavable amounts of solid biofuel

[ornate saffron]

They make me motion sick. I also can't stop and explore something shiny

[quasi warren]

#screenshots message OML- YES. ABSOLUTELY YES.

[quasi warren]

I do vr CONSTANTLY so I rarely get motion sick

[ebon cobalt]

thats the usual strat xD
no one likes biogen phase

[fluid crow]

exploration train to the opposite corner of the map has been nice

[ebon cobalt]

oh btw when do i get trains?
(also hoverpack would be nice lmao)

[quasi warren]

@feral jay I use mods constantly, one mod i have adds built in hypertube boosters as an entrance. Three versions. Mk1 2 and 3. I put a few of those in a line? I go FLYING

[ornate saffron]

Phase 3 for trains phase four for hover

[ebon cobalt]

oh thats not too bad
unless its some really annoying recipe using oil or smthn

[quasi warren]

So ur setup with hypertubes mixed with those boosters... I might just crash my game XD

[limpid orchid]

You will get through it. jetpacks are usefull too

[quasi warren]

I mean, from what I saw in previous saves, it requires computers for the rail blocks

Not sure if that's changed or not

[ebon cobalt]

i mean that seems balanced so i doubt they changed it

im just not excited for recipes with byproducts :<

[quasi warren]

I mean like, the signals

I am not good with words T-T

[ebon cobalt]

i know what ur talking about

[quasi warren]

Thank GOD

[ornate saffron]

Computers yes, not a bug deal though. You don't need them right away. You have time to build some supply

[limpid orchid]

I wish there would be like an option where i can Filter just 1 Resource to see on the Map. Like only Copper, then also decide if i just wanna see Pure/Normal or Impure. The System rn is just not good my Opinion

[ornate saffron]

I tend to use the interactive map.

Once you get a series of radar towers up its not so bad in game

[quasi warren]

Radar towers saved me ong

[ornate saffron]

I got all the achievements without SCIM or tool. But that because im stubborn. I don't recommend it.

[quasi warren]

Same actually

I really only use the scim to see wth im missing in my save

Or when a foundation gets stuck under terrain that I cant delete

[limpid orchid]

I got the whole Map covered of them

[ornate saffron]

I use it all the time now. But not my initial 500 hours lol

[quasi warren]

I almost hit 500 hrs

[ornate saffron]

Crates in locations i can't get too, trucks that fall through the map,

[quasi warren]

I forgot abt the crates ngl

And trucks can fall through the map??

[ornate saffron]

Happened to me since 1.1 lol

[quasi warren]

... should I be glad I have never touched trucks or tractors at all?

[ornate saffron]

I don't know what happened becuase trucks are set and forget. But its location was off the map. Even when I loaded into scim it was on the edge of the map.

[quasi warren]

Despite how long ive played this game. Ive never touched the trucks/tractors once

[quasi warren]

Where was it going to??? Valhalla????

[fluid crow]

pretty much, but factory carts...

[ornate saffron]

I forced it last playthrough. I set challenges for myself. Last playthrough was no more then one train building per biome and to use mixed logistics inside the biome

[ornate saffron]

They are not for everyone. .

I had to get a friend to record my routes as I cannot drive them

[limpid orchid]

I got 1 Track with them bc i just wanted to use them. You can also just use belts for the way.

[ebon cobalt]

bro the ratio of steel to steel beams is so annoying =^=
how am i supposed to automate this shi for versatile framework

[limpid orchid]

Didnt had this Issue. Do you plan your works before building?

Like math and meta?

[ebon cobalt]

i plan alot but i havent built anything regarding it yet
working on modular frames rn

[quasi warren]

.... I need to make a belt highway bp.

[whole ermine]

Do animals respawn

[limpid orchid]

I use belts or when its very far away then Train tracks.

[ornate saffron]

Isn't it 3 coal to 3 iron to make a steel ingot? Then 4 ingots per steel beams?

[quasi warren]

Near powered buildings? No

If no factory building that is powered is near their respawn point? Yeah

[ornate saffron]

I made a BP that is just two light posts with conveyors attatched

[ebon cobalt]

3 coal 3 iron = 3 steel ingot
4 steel ingot = 1 steel beam

[quasi warren]

I use the solid steel ingot recipe

Uses iron ingots for a easier to use number

I forgor how much it makes tho

[ornate saffron]

ya, thats what i said lol

[limpid orchid]

Then do 12 coal 12 iron = 12 steel ingot
12 steel ingot = 3 steel beam

[ornate saffron]

so common yields are divisable by 3 AND 4

[quasi warren]

So... basically set up conveyor and pipe highways in the dune desert?

[quasi warren]

The LCM right?

[ornate saffron]

GIVE ME A TIK i got a thing

[limpid orchid]

Yeah, in my Brain also good when you put foundations before you place the belts. Or just use Trains.

[quasi warren]

...who knew my math class would come in handy.

[quasi warren]

Once im back at my pc ill set up the bp

[ebon cobalt]

thats not the annoying part
so much steel ingot for such little steel beam =^=

[quasi warren]

Its why I use the recipe for the concrete and steel to make steel beams. Molded beams i think is what its called

[fickle locust]

You can make a lot of steel ingots though

[fluid crow]

nice "bolted frame" it makes it use more screws 🖤

[limpid orchid]

Thats why you upload them with a Industrial Storage Buffer underneath it. So it can fill up the Storage too and while you play it will fill up and when you use it you can use a lot and it got time again to fill up.

[limpid orchid]

Can you pls explain what bp means?

[quasi warren]

Blueprint

[ebon cobalt]

probably blueprint

[fluid crow]

backpack

[limpid orchid]

I just got 3 Blueprints. The Hypertube, a Power Storage with 2500 mhz and Railway system.

Like small highway parts

I can put together for Trains.

[ornate saffron]

modular train Bp's are the way

[ornate saffron]

Incased Steel beams are in your futre

[ebon cobalt]

i saw that
for power towers too =^=
i have t4 fully completed so i cant even procrastinate

[quasi warren]

120 steel/min + 80 concrete/min = 45 steel beams/min

[ornate saffron]

yummy Fused modular frames

[limpid orchid]

Wait, when i got Nuclear Waste, can i just put them into the Sink?

[ebon cobalt]

yummy not being bothered to get hard drives :3

[ornate saffron]

I posted my conveyor over distance solution in #design-and-architecture for you

[ebon cobalt]

nah
ficsit does not waste or smthn idk

[ornate saffron]

no you gotta turn waste into pluto rods before you can sink it

[ornate saffron]

if you choose to burn your pluto rods for power your next chance to sink is Ficsonium Rods. but htey burn clean anyways

[quasi warren]

Or do the lets game it out method

Give it to the doggos.

[ornate saffron]

you can flush waste down the toilet one at a timetoo

[ebon cobalt]

stil curious of how he got so many xD

[quasi warren]

...wait you can?!

[ornate saffron]

yes sir

[limpid orchid]

WHERE THE F are the Ficsonium shit? I searched all Constructer/assembler/manufacturer/packager/refinery/blender/smelter/Foundry, where tf are they?

[ornate saffron]

tier 9 i think

tier 8 sorry

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Plutonium_Fuel_Rod

[limpid orchid]

So i will just store the Waste for idk how long until i got these and build them.

[quasi warren]

T8 is plutonium. T9 is fisconium

[ornate saffron]

i guess..... Yoou could in theory use SCIM to delete the wasste. But Im going to wait for Pluto before i turn on my nuclear facility

and just plan it in tandom

[limpid orchid]

I think i can just do both Tiers per Hand on the Crafting table. Maybe inefficent but who cares.

I fr just procrastinate for like 1-2 Weeks to Automate the Supercomputer and Radio Control unit. Still didnt do them

[ornate saffron]

no judgment here, I've bought entire phases on the awesome shop lol

[limpid orchid]

Thats also possible but i was never a Fan of buying these even tho i cant even buy anything anymore except these Trophies

[ornate saffron]

this is my 10th playthrough and will be my 8th time seeing the credits roll. Ill cut any corners i feel like lol. Sometimes i make a million factories others i skip phases and make a mega factory for all those parts later. There is no wrong way, what ever floats your boat

[limpid orchid]

I literlly still play on my First and i dont even plan of doing a Second playthrough bc i just wanna better my new Factorys and i design factorys and everything.

But i think this is like whole diffrent playststyles

[clear mesa]

Holy what a milestone

[ebon cobalt]

im trying to setup blueprints rn but it doesnt seem to work
i save the blueprint but nothing shows up when i try to build it

[ornate saffron]

Things come in time. About to Crack 1000 hours

[limpid orchid]

I think this is something for #1038092680493801533

[clear mesa]

8 completions in 1000 hours is still quite the pace

[bitter dirge]

hey.. um has anyone had a weird thing where u scan for a material but when u go there it gets to 100m and then the material just disapears?

with no deposit found

[ornate saffron]

Could it be underground?

[bitter dirge]

i dont see any caves nearby?

[clear mesa]

Entrances can be pretty far

There's no bugged nodes as far as I know, they're just underground

[bitter dirge]

its doing it for 4 different nodes :<

[clear mesa]

You can look up the cave entrances on the interactive map

[bitter dirge]

oo

[limpid orchid]

#math-and-meta message

What do you guys think? o

[clear mesa]

There's quite a few that are underground, especially if you're looking for SAM or uranium

[bitter dirge]

welp im looking for quartz

[quasi warren]

Thats how I found a fiesty sam ore node in the dune desert

[ornate saffron]

If you are lost you can check the satisfactory calculator and interactive map. Pinned in #math-and-meta

[quasi warren]

Also, the stingers once made me scream so loud I woke my family up by accident

[fickle locust]

A lot of quartz is underground. Do you know where on the map you are?

[quasi warren]

I wasnt paying attention to where I was, and all of a sudden I see a stinger launching itself at me

[quasi warren]

Wait fr?

[fickle locust]

Yeah. There's a spot in the rocky desert with 3 nodes that are hidden in a big cave

[limpid orchid]

I was thinking. This is more of a Autistic game right?

[bitter dirge]

o.. i think im there 😭

[quasi warren]

There is also factorio (cracktorio), dyson sphere program, and other factory games i cant remember

[quasi warren]

I swear these give too many jumpscares

[limpid orchid]

But, i asked this game.

[fickle locust]

Quite likely. The cave entrances for that are also way further away than you'd expect. I can give you a hint for how to find them if you'd like

[ornate saffron]

Hey now, you leave me and my trains out of this

[quasi warren]

Im not completely sure? Each person on the spectrum (me included) has different tastes on what they like

[clear mesa]

The automation/factory genre in general tends to pull in that group ye sure

[quasi warren]

I like seeing the factory grow and the automation to expand. Seeing funny number go up

[limpid orchid]

I love my Trains tracks also so much as you do yours okay. 😭

[clear mesa]

Mostly cause you need to be fixated in some way or another with logistics or planning to actually enjoy this game

[quasi warren]

.... yeah that tracks.

[obsidian quail]

I just like building, with a purpose?
Valheim is fun to build in but it's empty and hollow, enshrouded is just boring and far too time gated to build nice things.
Satisfactory go brrrrrrr

[clear mesa]

Most of my friends won't play this game because hopping off work to plan 50HMF/min doesn't sound exciting to them

Which I can't blame them for

[ornate saffron]

Same. Im hoping starrupture will feed both our desires

[obsidian quail]

tell them to search for secrets for you

[limpid orchid]

Yeah, i am on the Spectrum too. Im not fully diagnosed but i got suspected diagnoses from 3 Therapists.

[fickle locust]

Can't understand why that wouldn't be fun

[quasi warren]

I was diagnosed since I was YOUNG. so maybe thats why I love this game so much T-T

[gloomy tusk]

i have arachnaphobia mode on because i was in a very small cave and like 2 big spider things turned around and jumpscared the fuck outta me

[limpid orchid]

Still have to check that out too.

[clear mesa]

That's why we're here

[fickle locust]

You know what's not fun is finding out you made 50 HMF/min but you'll actually need 52.5 and now you need to add more inputs...

[quasi warren]

I was in the swamp man T-T

[clear mesa]

That's when u sloop and forget

[swift turret]

why do you need 50

make 25 and sloop it

[quasi warren]

And I got jumpscared by so many stingers

[gloomy tusk]

in australia the stingers are average fr

[fickle locust]

Lotta pasta

[limpid orchid]

I SWEAR, WHEN I GOT THE NUKES I WILL FUCKING NUKE THE WHOLE SWAMP DOWN UNTIL THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PIXEL OF ANYTHING. I HATE THE SWAMP

[unkempt blade]

I had a lot of hope for valheim like 5 years ago but... gestures at development since then

[clear mesa]

Not enough conveyors

[quasi warren]

I need to power the swamp- to remove the respawn of those things completely

[gloomy tusk]

the swap sucks because of how dark it is

[fickle locust]

I don't like that Nuclear Pasta is both an end product and a component of Ballistic Warp Drives

[ornate saffron]

I pray for your computer

[swift turret]

how much because even 10 pasta per minute only uses like 5 HMF

[limpid orchid]

AND ALL THE CATS. I dont wanna get jumped from a flying cat 😭

[fickle locust]

The swamp overlook (above the Caterium) is very pretty!

[gritty kite]

@amber moss if you want to know how i got the miner in that spot on the screenshot here: #screenshots message i just nudged it up

[quasi warren]

I forgot that I turned off arachnaphobia mode, and so I went into the swamp. And got completely jumpscared-

[bitter dirge]

i think im starting to realize why beginners should start in the grassy areas

[obsidian quail]

I hear ya. They did very well with it all, but they lost the sauce after expanding too far too slowly.
Its still just so beautiful to build in with their art style. I just leave a dedi server running on my local server and play now and then, but then i took a chance on this game.....

[swift turret]

I did the same but I play on 2 different devices. 1 had it on the other didnt

[quasi warren]

My watch yelled at me for having too high of a hr after that XD

[limpid orchid]

I cant play without the mode. I turned it on when i got the game and never turned it back off.

[quasi warren]

It took a while for my heart to calm itself down-

[fickle locust]

I'm doing a 20/20/5/5 of endgame products. I have 65 HMF being made right now but I didn't account for the extra 2.5 Pasta I need, so I think I need 5 extra HMF

[swift turret]

idk how much that is I think I stopped on phase 4 like half a year ago

[quasi warren]

Picture being spaced out playing the game. Entering the swamp without realizing, and you get jumped by so many stingers at once without the cat png

[swift turret]

what do you need 65 HMF for even what are you making that uses that many

[limpid orchid]

I cant imagine it without the png. I dont know how the cats look like without the Picture

[swift turret]

even making 2 HMF per minute for me was more than enough until I got to phase 4

[ornate saffron]

Personal goals. Last playthough I made 10/min of all endgame phase parts

[fickle locust]

I'm doing 20 Nuclear Pasta a minute, so I need 20 HMF to make 20 FMF to make 20 Pressure Cubes. Then I need 40 HMF for the 40 Adaptive Control Units required for 20 Biochemical Sculptors

[quasi warren]

Its terrifying-

[limpid orchid]

😭😭😭

[fickle locust]

I'm overshooting what is required to beat the game by a tremendous amount

[unkempt blade]

it just feels like they kept doubling down on the most tedious parts (which is maybe an odd thing for a factory game enjoyer to say)

[quasi warren]

And I remember once the setting turned off by accident... anddd... well. It happened again, jumpscared

I hate those things so much

[swift turret]

seems unnecessary but whateves

[fickle locust]

Anything in this game is unnecessary, this is the unnecessary I've chosen

It's resulting in fun big factories! Lots of challenges to overcome

[quasi warren]

...technically, you dont need everything at 100% efficiency,

Hell you could beat the game using only biomass gens

[swift turret]

hand craft everything

[quasi warren]

Exactly

Its slow. But its possible.

[swift turret]

didn 1 guy do that and then quit after like 4 hours

[fickle locust]

Your comment came up as I loaded into my game to see this #screenshots message

[fluid crow]

and you could start a fire rubbing sticks together but...

[quasi warren]

pfft-

[swift turret]

fire? I want

would make deforesting so much easier

[ornate saffron]

Some one here did that back in November

[vague timber]

quick question that was probably answered a million times already. Do I need Pipeline pump for gas?

[obsidian quail]

no no you're right. they focused on progression resetting for each new biome essentially, which wasn't what drew people in. The progression from the first release from meadows to plains was very smooth, after that mistalnds/ashlands just introduced overly difficult and boring mechanics as challenges.

[quasi warren]

...thats dedication I cant even fathom

[swift turret]

why dont we just give lizar doggos chainsaws and automate deforesting

[fickle locust]

No, gases just float

[swift turret]

yeah you need to pump gas

its called a gas pump

you put it in your car

[unkempt blade]

they don't have thumbs just cloacae

[swift turret]

tongues

it can touch the lever needed to activate the chainsaw

[pine elk]

Satisfactory running nice on a Rog Ally X…

[queen slate]

W

Is beauxite only in centre of map that’s the only place I’ve found it

[swift turret]

its around

[unkempt blade]

nah there's some closer to the edges too

[swift turret]

I found some in the titans forest, swamp, rockey desert

[queen slate]

Ah ok thanks

[swift turret]

Some in the red forest whatever its called

[queen slate]

I’ve mainly been in the dune desert and most of the nodes are iron lol

[swift turret]

yeah you can go to the swamp or the titans forest

[unkempt blade]

there's definitely some in dune desert 🙂

[swift turret]

bauxite?

[unkempt blade]

oh wait maybe that was quartz

[swift turret]

:smh:

[queen slate]

Don’t think so if u talking about at the very top that’s quartz

[swift turret]

#screenshots message

[fickle locust]

Yes all the bauxite is in the middle of the map in the dangerous areas

[queen slate]

Ah ok ty guys

[fickle locust]

Wow overclocked fuel generators guzzle

[swift turret]

thats how overclocking works

more power = more fuel needed

[green fiber]

Speed go up

[fickle locust]

The same clock rate is 10 rocket fuel/min vs 48 regular fuel/min
That's a striking difference

I'm going to need to find a bunch more sulfur

[swift turret]

yes and ionized fuel is better than rocket

[fickle locust]

Expensive production chain though

[tall lantern]

so expensive, it costs about as much power to make it as you'd gain over just burning the rocket fuel as-is

[vernal sierra]

are you supposed to be able to sprint/crouch jump so fast, like my speed never stops

[golden nexus]

yes

[sick falcon]

which rotor, stator, and motor recipes do you guys like

[vernal sierra]

ohh

[golden nexus]

steel

[fickle locust]

Using steel for everything is nice, but once I get electro motors those parts are easy to make and the return on production is quite good

[kind spade]

wWhat does the Alienenergyrepeater do

[fickle locust]

The power augmenter? It provides 500 mw of power, plus a 10% boost to your overall power

[kind spade]

probably that yeah i tried to translate one to one xD

[south stream]

Beens can fly

[crystal storm]

ok am i crazy if i want to setup my nuclear factory to extract water, package it, then unpackage it only right at the nuclear power plants

all the actual processing of uranium -> fuel will probably be done on site

[sonic igloo]

i find it annoying how theres no half industrial railing

[scenic mirage]

just save yourself the headache and dont 😄

[sick falcon]

500 power + 10% extra power on whatever grid its connected to

however its a noob trap imo bc the sloops it takes to build can make much more power if used properly in a power plant

[gloomy tusk]

you think?

[sick falcon]

yea, u can get so much more power duplicating uranium rods

[gloomy tusk]

i think its really useful because of its 30% boost in long term its not that good early

[golden nexus]

we know 😉

[sick falcon]

oh does it go up to 30% once you unlock the alien power matrix

[gloomy tusk]

yes

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message how far south can i build over the void?

[golden nexus]

Uranium plant @ 250% uses 0.5/rods. The amnu to make them at 250% powers 2 plants. So if you have 12 of these. You get 24 plants. Which give you a base of 150,000 MW. If you use 48 sloops you get an additional 24 plants because you double the output of the 12manu's. Giving you 300,000MW or so.

[scenic mirage]

why stop at 300000 MW?

#screenshots message
#screenshots message

[golden nexus]

Yup, You can double this again. Bear in mind oyu also have to deal with the waste and also you get double the waste because you doubled the rod counts and plants, which means you get double plutonium rods from the waste by default

[sick falcon]

which uranium fuel rod recipe do you use for mass production like this

[golden nexus]

if you used the 50 sloops in argumenters. You get 10% of (150,000) * 5 = 75,000 or about 225,000MW... which is much less overall

[scenic mirage]

uranium fuel units

i didnt use sloops for nuclear stuff either

[golden nexus]

The stuff i mentioned there is also the "bad" nuclear reipcie

the good recipie goes from 1 -> 1.5 rods/min

[sterile blade]

Nerdy numbers:
For something like standard Uranium, the Augmenter is basically worth it if you make more than 2.8 Rods/min (2.8 manufacturers at 250%, no sloop). With less rods, you get more power out by just slooping the Rods Manufacturers

[sour jewel]

So huge huge question will satisfactory ever have cross-play between console and pc?

[gloomy tusk]

Hopefully

[dense violet]

no info, assume not.

[fierce epoch]

i’m on my 3rd run of satisfactory and i was wondering if anyone else felt that the space elevator should need an items/min of each item not a specific number of items

[mystic crag]

That would be sinister

[fluid crow]

you have to keep up the items per minute from the previous phases. I like it

but not sure how that would work with just loading up containers

[leaden turret]

would make for an interesting game mode, definitely

[leaden turret]

sustained rate based on the math of the 6 limited inputs and max belt speed

[fluid crow]

sustained indefinitely ?

[dense violet]

you're not the first to throw that idea, and not the last. The whole milestone and phase thing is supposed to teach you how to use the mechanics.
Just set up sinks and send things to them as a personal challenge if you want

[fierce epoch]

you would still have to replenish the containers

[fierce epoch]

that’s a good idea, thanks

[dense violet]

that's effectively what creating your own personal projects when you make the sandbox game is anywya

If I'm going to make 1000 hmf pm they're all getting sunk

[sick falcon]

the wiki is talking about uranium fuel units using beacons in the recipe, i assume its out of date?

[dense violet]

you're on the wrong wiki

[sick falcon]

oh is fandom no longer supported

[dense violet]

!wikisearch uranium_fuel_rod

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=uranium_fuel_rod

[swift turret]

Cyber Wagon
5,000 sec (0.012 / min)

best car

[ornate saffron]

To bad its ugly and drives like a toothbrush

[swift turret]

people would define that as a skill issue

[rain hollow]

Can anyone help me get a certain Mercer sphere?

[mystic crag]

Where twin

[rain hollow]

-522, 1398

A little north East of a lake

In a forest

[swift turret]

probably in a cave

[rain hollow]

Searched the only cave that's near the signal on the object scanner and it didn't have it

Did have a sommersloop though

[swift turret]

have you looked if its in some rocks or in the lake

[rain hollow]

Didn't see anything near the signal

But I'll check

[swift turret]

theres no spheres in the cords you gave

[hard stump]

.

[swift turret]

theres 2 in the red bamboo fields, 2 in lake forest, 1 in crater lake all around you

[leaden turret]

Presumably a sustained rate that's at least longer than it takes to drain 6 storage bins

[fluid crow]

I think it would make the most sense if there was like a quota and if you missed any you would have to make up for it.

or game over 🤣

you get terminated

they pile on interest for a while...

[swift turret]

subantica ahh ending

[amber moss]

that works?

[gritty kite]

i havent powered it so idk

[amber moss]

okay

[gritty kite]

i would of if i was more advanced

im in a fresh new world

[amber moss]

oh

[gritty kite]

i wanted to nudge it up

i could so i tried more'

[amber moss]

i never tried that

i always thought floating things looked bad

[surreal ingot]

is making a turbofuel power plant even worth? its seems like a waste to use lots of sulfer to make turbofuel

[dense violet]

well sulfur isn't really used for much - there aren't many nodes but the demand is pretty low unless you really dive into it

'worth it' is subjective.
you might find it fun?
but if all yo ucare about is enough power to finish the phases diluted fuel will get you there easily

[surreal ingot]

yea i found using 1800 oil with diluted packaged fuel gives me 60,000 which is enough for all factories until nuclear

[dense violet]

you could get to nuclear on like ... 1/3 of that if you wanted

Use power storage to have a way to kick start a bigger process

[scenic mirage]

man i forgot how fun early game is

i just started exploiting coal

[versed cosmos]

early game is incredible

[dense violet]

for example I had a power station that needed 15,000mw just to run

I was only making a total of 7000mw

so I built a power storage building to charge up while I was making the bigger station 🙂

[versed cosmos]

you make progress really fast and it feels good and you feel productive

this is why the phase 4 hump exists. you cant make progress at the same rate anymore. game becomes boring

[surreal ingot]

in another save my friend built like 2000 batteries and it said we had ~250 hours when our power went partially out

[scenic mirage]

batteries?

[versed cosmos]

power storages

theyre like tier 3 or 4 i think

[surreal ingot]

it was a 4x4 of storages from ground to height limit

[scenic mirage]

ye im just fking w you 😂

[dense violet]

over kill but a thing you can do

[surreal ingot]

it crashed my game like 5 times when i got to close

[surreal ingot]

that was all he did
his entire existance on satisfactory was making it taller

[surreal ingot]

(we also had multiple)

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

w coal power plant?

[swift turret]

how are you gonna expand it

[scenic mirage]

oil?

[swift turret]

What>

No you'll def need more power in the future before you get to oil

[scenic mirage]

mark 3 conveyors, mk2 miners

overclocks

[swift turret]

sure you could overclock but theres an ocean right next to you

[scenic mirage]

bro this isnt my first run through 😭

[swift turret]

you're clearly showing it is if you chose that spot

[scenic mirage]

its my first time doing the desert start

im sorry the way i play the game is different than you

i cant imagine how annoying that must be for you

[swift turret]

that coal could've gone to better like a weapons factory

[unkempt blade]

You're amazing and talented and I believe in you. I bet this other guy doesn't even use factory carts

[scenic mirage]

you realize it still can? when i have oil up i wont need that coal for power

[swift turret]

yeah but you dont have any water

[whole robin]

What reasons make building a tower of fuel generators a bad one

[dense violet]

just tell them ratio splitters are stupid, they'll probably go away

[unkempt blade]

you have to pump the fuel at some point, other than that it's a great idea

[swift turret]

nothing just aannoying to manage fluids

[dense violet]

vertical liquid manifolds often have terrible flow issues

[fluid crow]

looks bad with the chimneys

[dense violet]

and are ugly yes ^^^

[unkempt blade]

most like glorious obelisks celebrating the wonders of electricity

[fluid crow]

It is subjective I suppose

[unkempt blade]

objectively subjective for sure

the snow forecast here got downgraded to 3 days of freezing rain which means I'm still binging satisfactory but now I'm sad because no snow

[ornate saffron]

You can have some of ours.

[unkempt blade]

I'd love to!

[scenic mirage]

at least you dont have to deal with teh annoying disgusting brown slush after

the worst part of snow ong i hate it so much

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but what about that awesome yellow snow? I bet it's lemon flavor

[ornate saffron]

Kinda salty

[hollow brook]

Hey, I'm just starting with trains and I'm kinda struggling with my first rail line. I decided I wanted to transport compacted coal from the Abyss Cliffs to the Blue Crater for my turbofuel power plant via trains, but I don't know exactly what I should do for my rail line. I'm new to building rail lines, and I don't know many rules for making it look good, of course I don't wanna make a mess and build on the terrain, but it's hard to lay foundations too, because it's such a large elevation change from the two areas. Anyone got any tips?

[dense violet]

zoop foundations the whole way between stations - it keeps it tidy and helps plan

blueprint train towers that will hold the rail on top - you can quickly connect it up after wards

if you're ever only going to have the 1 train on the line, you can make it a single lane, but if you think it'll be part of a larger network later, make it two lanes at the start

[hollow brook]

Hm, what's the train tower blueprint you speak of?

[dense violet]

just anything that holds the rail up. Your own design

[hollow brook]

Ooo

[dense violet]

an extremely basic example from update 5 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1448157102966182049/1448167940225499156/image.png?ex=69724ebe&is=6970fd3e&hm=67d00f542c8e7015c41a8c9738fe8001680b2bbf5b5d0c491833e99c2126882f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[dense violet]

a fancier stacked design https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1360987971435630683/unknown.png?ex=697236d2&is=6970e552&hm=011508760e1ff633f1d2cd3fc349179540d1758375ab17a86d4a4652aca411f4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[hollow brook]

Ok, you think mk 1 blueprint is good enough? Or should I get mk 2 blueprints?

[dense violet]

mk1 should be more than enough

[hollow brook]

Alright thanks

I'll be extra creative with the supports! :D

[dense violet]

I got fancy with my last train tower xD https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1331451976629747813/train_pylon.png?ex=69723588&is=6970e408&hm=bb10754af3dafce7bd4a1a4bfd79643faad81018550470cbe153b0dc82e9a3f8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[hollow brook]

Inspiration!

[dense violet]

I also find stacked rail to be really good for hugging the terrain closely.
I don't like how wide side by side systems are. they just take up so much of hte scenery

they work exactly like side by side rail too as well. Very little difference in how you manage them

[exotic idol]

if you uhh no ok

[rain hollow]

I think I accidentally found uranium

[hollow brook]

Hmmmmmmmm...

How do you know?

[rain hollow]

Cause I got a radiation meter

[weary kestrel]

Hot tip, please don't try mine it 🤣

[rain hollow]

I was just trying to get a somersloop man...

[rain hollow]

Now I wanna

[wise junco]

do it do it do it do it do it

[rain hollow]

I saved just in case

[weary kestrel]

its actually pretty slow damaging, if the sloop is visible then just send it

[hollow brook]

Mmmmmmmm sour candy

[rain hollow]

Will I still have radiation if its In my inventory

[weary kestrel]

🙂

[hollow brook]

:)

[rain hollow]

I doubt It will If I can get it in the depot fast enough

[hollow brook]

I put the sour candy in a box next to my hub

[rain hollow]

Me no like sour

[hollow brook]

Why? Science of course! || (It is NOT for science) ||

[open token]

hey guys i'm new to the game i have a few hours into it but i would love it if anybody has some extra time to pair up and teach me a few

[rain hollow]

But this different sour that me do like

[rain hollow]

Research power slugs as soon as you get a chance too, over clocking and under clocking will help you out a lot

[weary kestrel]

learn by failing, much more fun

[hollow brook]

Uhhh get the basics of automations and use foundations to avoid spaghetti and start automating basic materials like plates and rods

Start being able to read what's on a building menu, how much stuff is going into where. Focus on the ----- per minute areas, it lets you know exactly how much is going in and how much is going out.

Lets you change the amount of machines for the next part of the factory.

[dense violet]

Get through phase 1 first, that's the basic pre tutorial thing.
but honestly you learn best by trying thigns out 😉

[open token]

would anybody be willing to let me hop in into their server just kinda look around and see how things automate. i wont touch anything i just kinda wanna take a look see and see how everything works

[dense violet]

you can look at youtube videos? but it really won't help much. The actual building willl. :\

[open token]

i'm old so i kinda go a little bit slow so

[hollow brook]

Uh, my world's a mess right now lol, mid game struggles XD

But I am getting my crap together. My factories are looking better.

But most of the good factories are in the western beaches, the rocky desert, the blue crater, and other areas. (I started in the grasslands)

[weary kestrel]

also looks like you're on console, probably better chance asking in #satisfactory-consoles as I'd assume a fair amount of people here are PC

also #1201555265942724758 as well tbh

[hollow brook]

I mean, the coolest looking factory I got in the grasslands is my motor factory (which is when I adopted the cool new wall designs and roof designs. I use steel and hexagon window pattern walls.

But I still haven't a good way to make my factories look good despite floating... :( the large beams aren't enough anymore...

[quasi warren]

I just leave them in the sky

Sky orange box for life imo

[weary kestrel]

I refuse to make factories look pretty
4x3 towers are the way of ficsit efficiency 🤣

[hollow brook]

Yeaa... I used to even not add walls before moving onto the next project, until I found out just how cool you can make factories by giving them walls and roofs.

Tho I still refuse to add walls to my power plants or oil rigs.

Those look better with plain old industrial railing

[weary kestrel]

currently slightly wincing at the inputs needed for heavy modular frames, knowing they aren't even the final step for them

[hollow brook]

I'm going to automate computers before I start tackling those

[weary kestrel]

any particular reason why computers?

[hollow brook]

Needed for almost everything

Annoying when I need 50 computers and I have 0

I REFUSE TO SIT AT THE CRAFTING TABLE AGAIN

[weary kestrel]

I found probably 100 odd from wreckage scouring, which has been used for research purposes

[hollow brook]

I found some computers at wreckages and got myself the manual dimensional depot uploader

But yea, now that I'm in the manufacturing phase and now know how to make computers, as well as having their components automated, I don't value computers as much anymore.

[weary kestrel]

Yeah that was such a nice upgrade

[weary kestrel]

This was motors for me, I made a super inefficient motor factory with no math just manifolds going up and up so I could make all the tier 5/6 stuff

[hollow brook]

Motors, despite being automated, I value somewhat. I'd discard a motor or two every now and then, but it comes back to bite me in the butt when making fuel generators.

But it was no problem, because I had tons of other aspects in my turbofuel project to focus on anyway.

Such as making the darn train system to get the compact coal to the darn place!!!

[weary kestrel]

I somewhat regret not going straight to turbofuel

but the packaged diluted fuel at least has me safe for a while on energy

can finally rip up my coal gens at the blue crater to repurposes for steel production

[weary kestrel]

am very spooked by trains, cause I won't want floating tracks, and the ground is too inconsistent

[hollow brook]

My project is going to generate me 9375 MW, so it's all gonna be worth it. (not 10000 MW because my greedy self wanted a refinery to straight up make packaged turbofuel for my jetpack!11!)

[hollow hemlock]

I spent entirely too much time getting nuclear going. But at least I run it off of a resource gathering operation using single tracks and 2 way trains for spite

[hollow brook]

I've been introduced to train towers

[weary kestrel]

Nice, my total output is about 12k right now but no idea how much of that is from fuel, probably 8 or so

[hollow brook]

They use the ground, but elevate the tracks

[weary kestrel]

Yeah I think this might be the one of the few times I straight rip a blueprint from satis-calc, just to have a consistent "pillar" to support my tracks so it stays clean

[hollow brook]

I mark every power plant on the map, I include the name of the biome, the type of fuel it uses, and the amount of MW it generates. I also color it based on the fuel, (ex: coal = black, fuel = orange, turbofuel = red, etc)

[dense violet]

you can manage it so it's not very elevated too 🙂 hug the ground fairly well, just have to plan for it

[weary kestrel]

cause god knows any conveyor I have placed right now is spaghetti and not conforming 🤣

[hollow brook]

I don't like the way the tracks go into the ground.

[weary kestrel]

That is... very organized
I am not 🤣

[dense violet]

you also benefit from keeping rails nice and tidy. You want junctions to be completely flat

[hollow brook]

I avoid spaghetti at all costs, and even use display signs to keep track of input and outputs in factories.

I sushi belted iron and copper ore into my motor factory, it looked really good.

[weary kestrel]

Oh yeah smart splitters exist don't they

[hollow brook]

Yup

Copper one way, iron another.

Perfectly alternating on the sushi belt too

[weary kestrel]

its on my hit list to make a conveyor belt blueprint as well, just for neatness sake

I have about a million things I intend to do, the amount I will do however 🫠

[hollow brook]

I have tons of highway blueprints for conveyer belts

[weary kestrel]

You had better forsight than I do then 🤣

[hollow brook]

I even made a blueprint for mass piping, like the one time in the dune desert where I made a huge compacted coal power plant, needed a crap ton of water.

I was disgusted by the way the extractors looked in the pond, but that was back when I had 60 hours on the game and was rushing to get phase 2 done.

EFFICIENCY FIRST, LOOKS LATER.

[weary kestrel]

mmm I did see someone have a really nice piping blueprint on YT, might do the smae

since I intend to pipe water to my grasslands area for wet concrete

[hollow brook]

I ran 8 individual pipes to that power plant

(Not in spaghetti fashion, so you can let go of your held breath)

I used stackable piping, so it looked nice and tidy and traveled all in the same way.

I separated them symmetrically too, creating a beautiful pattern of never intersecting strands of spaghetti.

[weary kestrel]

very nice, I... have not and probably will not get to that level of order 🤣

If it looks neat enough to the eye, then I'm pleased

[hollow brook]

One thing I can't stand is moving parts going into non moving parts, going straight through. (Yes, let's game it out gave me that fear)

[rain hollow]

Okay so I made a mistake and tried to mine uranium without a hazmat suit and now my death crate is inside the uranium node so I need to mine it to get my crate but I die immediately after

[grim carbon]

i'm working on my water pipeline to make coal

[weary kestrel]

my brother in christ

I told you not to touch the spicy rock

🤣

[hollow brook]

I got a few tips

[rain hollow]

I don't know what I had but I want the crate back

[grim carbon]

any help would be greatly appreciated

[hollow brook]

If you're going to go up, go straight up, and use however many pumps it takes.

[grim carbon]

i'm staying level with the ground for now

[hollow brook]

good enough

Know that fluids are sort of a pressure system, so full pipes are good.

[grim carbon]

when it's pulsated that's good?

[hollow brook]

Pretty much

Like, pipes completely full of water have the highest flow rate.

[grim carbon]

pulsating*

[dense violet]

provide some overhead images in #math-and-meta can really help

[grim carbon]

ok

[weary kestrel]

tip 1: let your pipes fill up before you turn on the machines

[grim carbon]

the only way i know to go over them for a good pic is to build storage

[grim carbon]

that makes sense

[hollow brook]

do that for coal too, having all the fuel in the generators right as you turn it on gives you all of your power instantly.

Way better than having your power gradually go up...

Because if you're planning to build right after your coal power plant project, good luck not breaking the fuse if you're close to the line.

[weary kestrel]

the amount of times my fuses flipped because my coal gens weren't filled 💀

[grim carbon]

i've just put another water extractor and now have 3 coal generators

[hollow brook]

How many extractors do you have?

[grim carbon]

my production far exceeds my consumption right now

2 extractors

[hollow brook]

One coal gen takes 45 m^3 of water.

And an extractor makes 120 m^3 of water

[weary kestrel]

8:3 is the normal ratio

[grim carbon]

3 gennys, 2 extractors

[hollow brook]

How much coal are you putting into the system?

[dense violet]

the reason why I suggested #math-and-meta is because yo ucan post images AND talk there.
gen chat is a poor place to figure things out

[whole ermine]

id be cool if the power lines could sway slightly in the wind

[weary kestrel]

swaying is inefficient, thats not a straight line 😤

[whole ermine]

yeah but the powerlines in game arent straight

[mystic crag]

WOW, they gave genders?

[hollow hemlock]

They have slack and are mildly subject to gravity, at least until that is deemed inefficient

[whole ermine]

slack is the word i was looking for

[coral marsh]

Thinking of stacking train stations where I plan to rebuild my nuclear base.
May go for 2 stations wide 3 tall

[barren tulip]

interesting

[coral marsh]

Bottom 2 will be for uranium and thorium

Wonder if ill have to do 2 of those ideas, can you put 2 starions next to each other in a blueprint designer?

[barren tulip]

thorium???

[coral marsh]

Yea thorium, its a mod

[barren tulip]

ohh

[coral marsh]

4th nuclear fuel option

Yee

[whole ermine]

isnt thorium much weaker than uranium

irl

[coral marsh]

Yup

Way weaker

[whole ermine]

so do you need more in the mod?

[coral marsh]

Its its own type, you can however recycle it back into itself (and I think uranium)

So its cool

[rain hollow]

Do I want to know what the thing with a somersloop on it that looks like it's gonna eat me when I try to grab it is?

[whole ermine]

huh

show

[coral marsh]

Yes
Show

[whole ermine]

post in #story-spoilers

[rain hollow]

It's posted

[barren tulip]

approach and find out!

[rain hollow]

Two words: HELL. NO.

[barren tulip]

screenshot then, i wanna see it

[coral marsh]

Nah you're good to do so

[rain hollow]

I got the somersloop but I still don't like that thing

[rain hollow]

I got back from that very long excursion and I'm hand making a lot of SAM fluctuators for depot upgrades

I also got a ton of power slugs

9 blue, 4 yellow, and 1 purple

[quasi warren]

Decent haul. (I say that when I got over 50 slugs in one expedition)

[rain hollow]

Wow

[quasi warren]

It helps when you know what to look for

[rain hollow]

I also have the perfect amount of Mercer spheres for the first two depot stack upgrades and the second upload speed upgrade

Which is 17

[whole robin]

Correct me if I'm wrong but there's a creative mode-esque type of session, where you automatically unlock everything and aren't limited by materials required for machines to be built or power, right?

[dense violet]

tehre's various advanced game settings that do this yes

once you set it though you can't un set it

[whole robin]

Yeah, but I'll just make a separate session for just testing stuff

[dense violet]

you know the great thing about testing something in your main game?
once you have it built , you have it in your main game

and you'll need the parts and power for it anyway

instead of building it multiple times over.

[whole robin]

Yeah, but I'd like to know if my idea of a tower of Babel for fuel generators would work at all past the first of second level

[dense violet]

so build it in your main game and test it?

[whole robin]

BEFORE I start working on it and waste time and resources

[dense violet]

my brother in efficiency, you're going to spend the time doing it anyway. This way you spend it twice

why spend 200$ on something you can spend 100$ on

[hollow hemlock]

Why wouldn't it work? Use pumps if you're using fuel/turbofuel or not if you use the good stuff. Other than that, pile em up

[dense violet]

because vertical fluid manifolds are often a mess

[whole robin]

I also don't have enough motors to build as many as I want to build

[dense violet]

... so.. build more. If it works you'll need to anyway. If it doesn't work, you'll need them for a different design

there's no version of this where you aren't doing at least 2x as much work

[feral jay]

I did a vertical fluid manifold once. Never again.

[fluid crow]

pump it to the top then work back down

[dense violet]

vertical fluid manifolds are often not that simple

[fluid crow]

is a good start

[feral jay]

Wait, actually, I do use VOPs, those count as vertical manifolds

[dense violet]

you also don't want to try to patch

a system like that

[barren tulip]

did this on my sandwich, no issues so far

[fluid crow]

I'm certainly not going to build something like that

[whole robin]

Can I use water to test if fluid would flow equally to each generator or similar fluid requiring machine in a tower?

[fiery garden]

yeah you can probably do it with packagers

[whole robin]

Wait that's actually a really good idea

[dense violet]

waterdoesn't get consumed by fuel generators, how would this test flow?

[fiery garden]

fuel flows the same way as water (most fuel anyway) so testing with water would prove the theory

[dense violet]

no it wouldn't, if there's no consumption the pipes will jsut fill and stop

the consumption is the critical aspect here

[fiery garden]

that's what the packagers are for

[dense violet]

Where are the packages going to go?

[fiery garden]

this conversation is as circular as the theory

[sick falcon]

priority mergers seem kind of unreliable

[fiery garden]

skill issue

[dense violet]

they just don't have any real uses.

they were added in because people yelled about them for years and all the systems you needed to make never needed them

[fiery garden]

i've been using them as a kind of reverse smart splitter and they do the job

[dense violet]

every single system I've seen with people going 'TheReS uSEs!' could be done more simply w/o them

[willow pond]

does the game still have the old object limitation that it did during the UE4 days?

[fiery garden]

when you have 2 almost full belts and you want one of them to be full, priority merger is easier to set up than smart splitter

[dense violet]

can you make things with them ? sure. but it's that meme about jumping through hoops in gymnastics

[dusky hedge]

ive had 2 uses where they were the ideal tool
i could have done without them if i had more space ofc

[dense violet]

clocking

[fiery garden]

aint nobody got time for clocking

[dense violet]

again, always simpler methods

[dusky hedge]

not a moreideal one thoug

[dense violet]

feel free to create the hoops yo uwant to jump in, but you could do everything in the game very easily before they existed

[fiery garden]

that would require thinking

[dense violet]

again, never seen a system that wouldn't be easier and simpler w/o them

[feral jay]

Thinking is the kind of thing evil people do... just sayin'

[dusky hedge]

i had a full belt of quarts going to sink and i wanted to sink another resource that was right next to it with priority

[fiery garden]

that can't be right. i don't like thinking.

[dense violet]

often times jsut by using a smart splitter in a slightly different spot

[whole robin]

In layers like the fuel generators, and they would actually be able to use the test fluid (water) that's being sent up the tower and show that the same thing should work with fuel would be sent to each generator across the floor instead of just the fist few along the pipe

[dense violet]

so you backed up your quartz instead?
2 sinks. Done

[dusky hedge]

yes it was worth less points and i idnt have space nearby for another sink, so no

[sick falcon]

my stupid chud dog is starting to phase through the floor of his enclosure how do i get him back up

[dense violet]

they would fill up very quickly. Not nearly enough time to test it

[dense violet]

.... you can build multiple sinks. You're just proving my point here

you could have sunk more points, w/o a pmerg, by just having another sink

[feral jay]

Oh wow I forgot that I'd upgraded my express hybertubes from 100MW boosters to 200MW... holy crap I fly through those tubes now

[dusky hedge]

in my first comment i said if i had more space i could have done with out it, but it is still not ideal

[feral jay]

I've used exactly one priority merger in my crrent 200ish hour save

[dusky hedge]

@dense violetit is you creating the need for somethign to be right

[dense violet]

build up. Send the belt to the side a bit. Get more points.
you chose to have less point and back log a line. This is not an argument in your favour

[feral jay]

It did save a bunch of room at least but absolutely I could accomplish what I needed without it

[fluid crow]

same

[fiery garden]

dismantle the floor, let him fall through. build a new floor. use something thicker than 1m foundation and if its near the ground, raise it up a little before you put him back in his prison

[lapis shadow]

"prison" 😭

[dusky hedge]

well this is the point, i could live without my dishwasher but i am glad i can use it
ppl fighting to prove it is useless makes no sense

[fiery garden]

don't say that, she might get upset

[lapis shadow]

How do Lizrd Doggos gather items? Like if I were to have one in a pen, then would it not be able to gather items? Does it need to roam freely in order to get items or...?

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message its not a prison he has toys and friends

[feral jay]

"Useless" is not a fair description. "Unnecessary" is fair.

[sick falcon]

they just appear in the dogs inventory

[feral jay]

But by that account, blueprints are also unnecesasry, and there's very few people who would argue that blueprints are useless

[dusky hedge]

the ideal solution was to switch a merger with a priority merger and move on, not redesign the entire area

[feral jay]

Priority mergers are a really great QoL addition IMO

[fiery garden]

chocolate teapot is useful when i'm hungry

[barren tulip]

it can gather items anywhere

[feral jay]

Well I've had chocolate tea before... but a chocolate teapot?

Sounds like it would make a helluva godawful mess

[fiery garden]

yes, the legendary "useless item" meme is actually completely false

[feral jay]

Oh, agreed, especially in this game, where the playerbase constanty harps "it's your game, your rules"

[dusky hedge]

would that make it a useless item 🤔

[sick falcon]

biocoal:

[weary kestrel]

unless its conveyor belt spaghetti, then its a crime against humanity

[feral jay]

Useful in niche scenarios

I've never used biocoal though, just seen some good reddit posts on it

[fiery garden]

useful for adventuring when you're adventuring and don't quite have the right materials to open a crashed pod: find a nearby iron deposit, kill something, now you got steel

[feral jay]

meh I just put a stamp on the map and come back to it later

[fiery garden]

i put a stamp on the map and don't come back to it later

[dusky hedge]

all the stamps i made on the map only to cover them up with a radar tower

[feral jay]

That was also a great change, getting rid of beacons and adding map stamps

[fiery garden]

fricken beacons omg

[sick falcon]

if its early enough you dont have everything you need to open one in your depot, you probably havent unlocked biocoal

[barren tulip]

oh god beacons

[fiery garden]

the best use i have for biocoal is to use it as a placeholder hard drive result that i can hold on to for rerolling later

[feral jay]

Oh right, I need to build 40 plastic refineries, that's why I built an express tube line out there

[barren tulip]

back when beacons were a thing i didn't know the map even existed

[feral jay]

I've got some grand plans for a 330/min battery plant

[fiery garden]

i used to use beacons for marking crashed pods as looted. so backwards.

[weary kestrel]

huh
do you not... dismantle it all?

[fiery garden]

we werent able to dismantle them back then

[feral jay]

Honestly with the VOD issues with dismantled pods, I just use SCIM to hunt for drives

[weary kestrel]

today I learn

[feral jay]

I fully admit to cheating in this regard

[fiery garden]

it's not cheating. it's called "resourcefulness"

but you can shorten it to "cheating" if you want. nobody cares.

[coral marsh]

Wonder if Theres a mod thats basically infinite zoop and infinite dismantle combined

[feral jay]

Hey kiddos, back in my day, tube cannons were cheating

[weary kestrel]

speaking of, people who post those glitched blueprints to satis-calc 🤮

[coral marsh]

Ew, glitched blueprints

[feral jay]

Yes. Firing squad.

[barren tulip]

glitched blueprints?

[coral marsh]

Illegal positions, things in the blueprint that wouldn't normally fit

Like a nuclear reactor in a mk2 designer

It only fits in a mk3

Also illegal clipping techniques

[barren tulip]

interesting

[feral jay]

To be fair, I do like the idea that people find interesting ways to fit neat things into blueprints

[coral marsh]

It is cool

But if it looks too out of place

Thats when its not liked

[feral jay]

Put it in a box, preferably a black box

THere's been a few really neat belt balancers lately

[coral marsh]

"There's a little black box, yeah
Somewhere in the ocean
Holding all the truth about us
It's a little black box
A record of emotion
Everything that ever was
You may deny it, deny it
But when I find it, find it
I'm gonna play it aloud to the world
A little black box, yeah
A little black box, yeah"

[feral jay]

who is that?

[coral marsh]

A kiwi singer, Stan Walker

Hes a legend here, survivor of stomach cancer

[feral jay]

Reminds me of Gord Downie (of the Tragically Hip), a Canadian poet/songwriter that we lost to brain cancer

[weary kestrel]

I just hide all my factory spaghetti within 4x3 factory towers 🤣

[feral jay]

Oh shit... did he write that about MH370?

[coral marsh]

Have a listen to Stan's older songs and his new stuff like "Aoetearoa" and "i am"

[coral marsh]

It "might" have been about MH370 but im not sure

[feral jay]

Supposedly, the wreckage is somewhere in the remote southeastern Pacific, so, probably close to Australia (<--pilot)

[coral marsh]

Yee

[normal comet]

hello, I'm new here.

[barren tulip]

hello new here

[coral marsh]

Wassup, welcome in pioneer

[feral jay]

Welcome, we love new players!

[normal comet]

thx 😄

[weary kestrel]

but wheres your new here symbol! :suspicious:

[normal comet]

i really like satisfactory, good game 😄

[coral marsh]

Very much so is

[normal comet]

wait, theres a new symbol? sick

oh well, im not really new here, i have been sitting in the enterance channel and not paying attention to the satisfactory group really. ;-;

[barren tulip]

joined jan 3, it's probably already gone by now

[weary kestrel]

then he's a liar, not new 😛

but yes, agreed on the "good game" front

[normal comet]

yeah

[barren tulip]

new to this channel perchance

[weary kestrel]

let me be difficult in peace 😠

[normal comet]

when i set my language to australian in game, the subtitles were so funny lol

[weary kestrel]

I love the ada humor

[normal comet]

me too

ada got mad at me because i kept flushing the toilet in the pioneers room over and over and over again lol

[weary kestrel]

ada calling me out when I instantly thought "cool I can hook up the autominers to the smelter"

[normal comet]

im not up to that part yet i dont think

all my factories are ahh

[barren tulip]

#streams-and-videos message second video

[weary kestrel]

you would have already had it, it's like tier 1 unlock

Hub upgrade #4 apparently

[normal comet]

i have auto miner, not sure about smelter tho

when i first played satisfactory, my factory got pretty decent sized actually, but then i found a pod wreckage, so i tried to loot, but that one creature kept killing me, so i raged and left that save file to collect dust

[tribal zealot]

hello chat

[nimble bough]

hi chat

i just made it to phase 2 and i’m a little overwhelmed by all the steel items i need now, any pointers on what to do next?

[barren tulip]

do said steel items, just something basic, nothing too fancy

[young lintel]

nope sorry im still starting out this is my first time playing and ive already had 5 brain farts.

[normal comet]

bye, imma go play satisfactory >:3

[nimble bough]

i found some coal and iron nodes nearby and i’m thinking of figuring out how to get all 3 items from the same factory, would that be a good idea?

[tribal zealot]

all 3 items?

[normal comet]

hopefully i dont pop a nerve using my last 2 braincells trynna make a effecient factory that dosent look like a barf soup.

[nimble bough]

the 3 steel items for phase 3

[barren tulip]

sure, i do that
just make sure you have enough to get a decent supply going

[nimble bough]

so far i’ve only got reinforced plates and rotors going, other than some basic materials

[dusky hedge]

just focus on one thing at a time
if you are doing things to get to something else it can seem like a chore, if you are doing things to that thing it is much simpler

[barren tulip]

though you can always just like, overflow split the steel beams after the encased beams are full but i don't recommend that

[normal comet]

wait theres steel? nice.

[nimble bough]

i went a little overboard and built a 40/m reinforced plate factory as my first build lmao

[dusky hedge]

@young linteloops i replied to the reply again sry

[normal comet]

anyway im getting sidetracked again, gonna go play the actual game now.

[tribal zealot]

i always try to get the basic steel items going first, worry about phase 3 later. probably start constructing it in that area tho

[nimble bough]

fair

[dusky hedge]

just focus on one thing at a time
if you are doing things to get to something else it can seem like a chore, if you are doing things to that thing it is much simpler

[young lintel]

my constructor ran out of juice TwT

[nimble bough]

from what i saw there’s only some 6 coal nodes nearby and i wanna use a few for power so im not sure how to split it

[tribal zealot]

what purity are they?

[nimble bough]

all pure

[tribal zealot]

probably dedicate like 1 or 2 to power for now, you wont need that many even for automating the phase 3 items

[barren tulip]

nice, that's like 240 each with mk2 miners and no overclock

[nimble bough]

i’ve only been using pure nodes so far lowk worried i’m gonna wish i hadn’t used them all later lmao

[tribal zealot]

i mean they're right there if you ever want to go back to them, its not like they expire or something

[barren tulip]

dw with mark 3 miners and triple overclock you'll get 1200 per pure node, you need a mark 6 belt to carry all that tho but mark 5's have 780/m so each pure can get about that much

[nimble bough]

fair i should be able to consolidate a bunch even

i used the 4 pure nodes in the forest canyon area near the forest spawn

anyway i shall figure out steel tomorrow, thx for the tips

[tribal zealot]

good luck! have a nice rest of your day

[nimble bough]

i’ll probably figure out materials first so i can get mk2 miners n such and then use the extra for elevator parts

[pastel surge]

Hello

[barren tulip]

is that a sandwich in a microwave as your pfp?

[pastel surge]

Yes

[barren tulip]

sick

[pastel surge]

I literally had no idea what to do for a pfp and this stuck, so its peak

[rich shoal]

Is the lorax a satisfactory movie?

[tribal zealot]

ficsit wouldve sent the lorax a cease and desist

[rich shoal]

He's magic tho

[tribal zealot]

but is he magic enough to fight ficsit's legal department in court

[pastel surge]

Nuh uh, the lorax existed first

So fiscit should get a cease and decist

[rich shoal]

Maybe, the trees speak to him so he has like million lawyers so he should just go to court with a bunch of bonsai

[silent pagoda]

#screenshots message anyone know what i can do, i've tried nobelisk and chainsaw

[rich shoal]

Afaik they're indeed indestructible and there's nothing to do but fall into pain and deseoeration

[silent pagoda]

thanks

[feral jay]

@silent pagoda OMG I love your username

You win thirty-seven Internet points

[silent pagoda]

👍 just an autogeneration from xbox days but thanks

[feral jay]

Keep it, it's gold

[magic rune]

tfw trying to get [What a Thrill] and then ada jumpscares you about "not leaving the designated work area"

[feral jay]

Heh I've got a miner st up there that's been sinking uranium for points for like 300 hours

[barren tulip]

achievement?

[magic rune]

for reaching world height, yeah

[barren tulip]

a 20 stage hypercannon will probably do the job

[feral jay]

You get a Steam achievement for touching the ground at the highest possible elevation

[true mulch]

Touching the ground? I thought it's just a bounding box you enter

[magic rune]

well that too, but this one was for reaching the "y-axis world boundary"

[feral jay]

ooh I think I have that

I've got 42 of 44 I thnk?

One of the two I don't have being saving the day

[magic rune]

only one i'm still missing is... taming a lizard doggo (not doing it until i have a way to deal with its !!Fun!! gifts)

[barren tulip]

i have like 30 or something, missing things like researching all the MAM stuff and completing onboarding

[feral jay]

Taming a doggo is really easy once you know how, just drop a berry and it comes, then pet it

[hardy swan]

there is a way to tame the lizard doggo???

[true mulch]

Drop a paleberry on the ground without scaring it

[magic rune]

oh, i know how. i'm just not going to until the risk of a Spicy Gift is mitigated

[feral jay]

Yes, ||drop a berry on the ground, then it will come to you, and then when you pet it, it's now tame||

[stuck dagger]

They don't give you nuclear waste anymore iirc

[hardy swan]

i will try it now thanks guys

[stuck dagger]

But I also never tamed a doggo, I'm too reckless and might accidentally murderize it

[feral jay]

Can confirm. I have five in a doggo ranch and after 300 or so hours, not a single nuclear waste

[barren tulip]

a few nuclear waste is really not that bad

[feral jay]

For a while I just flushed the nuke waste the doggos gave me

[stuck dagger]

It's for their own good that I kill them before they form a bond with me

[hardy swan]

i wish i had the original game but its too expencive for me😞

[magic rune]

...well, son of a youtube. wiki says it was an undocumented change in 1.0 that the spicy items were removed from their loot table.

[barren tulip]

!!

[feral jay]

I get that, but don't discuss piracy here.

[ruby gyro]

Talking about pirating in the official discord is Crazy work lmao

[hardy swan]

i cant pay but but when i have money i buy no problems

[feral jay]

(I too sail the high seas for a few things)

[ruby gyro]

Ive never dared to

[hardy swan]

i mean 100R$ is to much

[feral jay]

Cool, we get it, but talking about piracy in an official Discord is off limits

[hardy swan]

okay i get

[feral jay]

Now talking about my fancy shiny 200MW blueptined hypertube accelerators, that' a different matter

Or we can argue about valves and buffers

[hardy swan]

the last thing i had done in the games was delet my hole base

to do from the zero

[feral jay]

Wait no... just build new things

It's a very big map

[hardy swan]

i made a backup save if needed

i know but i was strugglin to continue

[magic rune]

200MW? dangtwice that's a lot of entrances

[feral jay]

It's 20

[barren tulip]

that's enough to go across the map probably

[magic rune]

i think my biggest one was a 12x spiral, that was still more than enough to yeet me at max speed through a map-spanning tube

[feral jay]

Gets me from the rocky desert to the grasslands in ten seconds

[hardy swan]

you guys have any hints (sorry if it's not the right word inglish is not my first language)

[hardy swan]

to transport liquids?

[feral jay]

THey're "express" tubes, basically to get me from one biome to another

I recently upgraded the tube boosters from 100MW to 200MW, so from 10 entracnes to 20, and... wow

[magic rune]

legit. i think there's probably a velocity cap though? like beyond a certain point, more entrances does not equal more faster

[hardy swan]

from some videos i saw the tubes dont seen to have a velocity cap

[feral jay]

I don't know. I've built express tubes that put me through tubes fast enough that when I arrive at the destination, the ground underneath me hasn't frendered yet, and I fall to my death

That's like a 500MW accelerator or so though

[fluid crow]

don't you only need one or two entrances in a circle

[magic rune]

i know that before an unreal engine updated fixed the physics glitch it depended on, hypertube cyclotrons were based on the idea of hitting the speed cap and noclipping out of the exit

[feral jay]

Sure, but that's exploity. SO I justs put ten or twenty entrances inline.

[barren tulip]

one time i got stuck in a 4 enterance cyclotron and i feel like they might

[half atlas]

How exactly do I calculate water consumption?

[barren tulip]

takes more time to accelerate + non-consistent launch power (unless you have very good timings)

[half atlas]

Is it not just water produced = water consumed?

[stuck dagger]

Pretty much, just like any other resource

[barren tulip]

yes until you have an excess then no

[half atlas]

Dang so it just takes a thousand year to fill up the 360 exact consumption line

[barren tulip]

mk1 pipe only carries 300 tho

[half atlas]

o

[feral jay]

#screenshots message mah hypertube accelerators

[magic rune]

as of update 8, cyclotrons no longer work according to the wiki

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Hypertube_cannon#Hypertube_cyclotron

[half atlas]

Gonna tariff these pipes

[stuck dagger]

The beginner coal setups use two pipes leading to the coal gens for a reason

[barren tulip]

i don't see why not, it's just 4 in a loop no?

am i using a different interpretation?

[feral jay]

I can link my accelerators with very short sections of tube

I've only tried 30 so far since 1.1

[magic rune]

that depended on an unreal engine quirk, that stopped working when the engine was updated to a newer version as part of sf upd8

[barren tulip]

strange

[feral jay]

Hypertube cannons were a glitch that was so popular, they turned it into a feature

[fluid crow]

I had a small circle with two entrances was great about 5 loops was a good speed

[barren tulip]

i just have linear ones nowadays since i never bothered figuring out good launch with cyclotrons

[fluid crow]

is quite easy just don't make it too small, but can be pretty small

[magic rune]

it's possible to make compact cannons still, you just need to wrap a "linear" one into a vertical spiral noodle

[fluid crow]

I should try one with only one entrance

[magic rune]

...this may be a deep cut, but if you've ever seen the magic school bus episode in a "haunted" theater with a giant light bulb and the spiral slide that turned the kids into light beams... imagine like that

[fluid crow]

I still don't like using hyper canons but they are fun to build

only way to do tubes or they too slow

[stuck dagger]

tbh I never used hypercannons, they feel too finicky to get right to me

[reef basin]

tubes are fine

at least you get to stretch and get a drink

[stuck dagger]

I also never made a hypertube network but I'm more likely to do that than cannons everywhere

[reef basin]

or admire the beautiful map

[obsidian zodiac]

i almost exclusively use hypertube cannons to get across the map, anything less and im bunny hoppin my way over

[stuck dagger]

Right now I'm still ziplining across power towers to get anywhere

[magic rune]

in my 1.0 save, i made a 12x cannon spiral blueprint that fit in a 10x10m area, super easy to plop down at the start of any tube and was fast enough to yeet me straight through from rocky desert to grassy fields in under a minute

[barren tulip]

there's a s e c o n d community manager?

[magic rune]

been thinking of making an "inline repeater" accelerator in my current playthrough... all my tubes are along the same path as the elevated rails (in fact i "seek ahead" with a tube to see what will be "short enough" for the rails), so i could make a blueprint of a few two-way floating entrances for a quick boost

[obsidian zodiac]

im more of a community court jester but yeah!

[barren tulip]

sweet

[whole ermine]

Hellooo

No one in particular

[reef basin]

This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them

[barren tulip]

had two CM's for a week on the TM discord, it was awesome

[reef basin]

we had two CMs for pretty much most of SF's dev cycle

[whole ermine]

tm?

[obsidian zodiac]

well im pretty sure ill be here after next week so i hope you enjoy your stay

[opaque wren]

Does anyone know the maximum inventory slots you can get? My inventory is bugged and I want to increase it to maximum value (I unlocked all slots).

[obsidian zodiac]

trackmania?

[barren tulip]

TM currently only has one, the second one was just a member of the community who happens to live nearby and got an internship

[barren tulip]

trailmakers

[fluid crow]

this works pretty great with only one entrance #screenshots message

[reef basin]

tbh I'd be surprised if Nadeo had a community manager 😄

[whole ermine]

#screenshots message

this is what i use

only problem is that you have to mash the button in order to actually switch directions and launch

since youre going so fast its inconsistent

[barren tulip]

that is compact as hell

[whole ermine]

you dont have to have 3 entrances you could just have 1

[magic rune]

...huh. didn't even occur to me that hypertube branches could be used as an on-demand replacement for the cyclotron glitch

[hardy swan]

hey guys do you have like one big base or you guys just make many mini bases around the map?

[dense violet]

the game mostly forces you to spread out. And the milestones are where you learn how to play, so experiment 🙂

[stuck dagger]

The latter

[opaque wren]

Depends on your style. I prefer to have one "main base" and make some additional factories when needed (e.g. oil, alumnium, nuclear plants...etc)

[magic rune]

it's possible to have one central base, but it's easier to distribute things and build near resources

[hardy swan]

i see my self stuck by the crude oil things

[stuck dagger]

What about them?

[dense violet]

make the rubber and plastic on site then move it 🙂

[barren tulip]

this run one big base and one almost equally big powerplant

[magic rune]

...by the way, anyone else annoyed that the symmetrical-y junction has literally no indication of which direction is "default"? i ended up making my own junction blueprint of three branches, connected in such a way that it's impossible to get shunted back onto the main line when you're trying to exit

[hardy swan]

one time i went chase crude oil and die being attack by 5-6 of the spider like thing

that day i turned on the aracnofobia mode

[barren tulip]

i turned it on as soon as i learnt of it's existence

but even then, i have been jumpscared by those cat png's more than once

[stuck dagger]

Now you'll get attacked by 5-6 catlike things

[hardy swan]

i will consider do this is the better thing i can do now

[magic rune]

weirdly enough, crab hatchers give me the jibblies far more than spidercats, even playing on passive mode

[whole ermine]

#screenshots message

[whole ermine]

their death meows made me sad so i turned it off

[magic rune]

like the bee nests are literally why i play modded and have Kill All Annoyances thanos snap all hostile mobs the instant they spawn... it's the closest you can get to minecraft-style peaceful mode

[barren tulip]

can't you just disable their agression or?

[magic rune]

they still activate even in "passive" mode

[barren tulip]

guh

[hardy swan]

MAE is a usefull resource? i still didnt see nothing that uses it out of the MAM

[magic rune]

it's just the bees won't actively fly at you, but still damage you on contact

[barren tulip]

MAE??

[fluid crow]

boom box them bees

[barren tulip]

SAM ore has uses now tho

[hardy swan]

in inglish Is SAM?

[whole ermine]

yes

[barren tulip]

strange alien matter yes

[hardy swan]

sorry i didnt know

[whole ermine]

its okay

yes its a very useful resource

you need it to finish the game

so use it sparingly

[hardy swan]

okay i will keep that in mind

[barren tulip]

or not, there's a bunch of nodes anyway

[whole ermine]

depends if you wanna max out

[hardy swan]

i have one pure of these right in front of my base

[whole ermine]

i have one node automated for the stuff

[stuck dagger]

Better to have it and not need it etc etc

[barren tulip]

same, already got all the depot upgrades

[opaque wren]

You will need 1 node for dimensional depo - which is quite impactfull to have.

[stuck dagger]

Dimensional depot is game-changing

[whole ermine]

i just have not gathered the spheres

i think im on the 2nd last tier for everything