satisfactory

[clear mesa]

But what do you expect when so much of it is now monetised and corporation owned

[mortal ginkgo]

yea but it still makes me feel sad regardless how some "safe spaces" are "golden cages". you are not even allowed to argue in some servers to a small degree.

Like imagine you and I get a warning because we disagree about cast screws recipe

[jaunty jewel]

LOL this is so insanely real i hate cast screws

[mortal ginkgo]

like imagine you said "impure limestone nodes suck", I mean you deserve a ban but still

[clear mesa]

Honestly you should be banned for your nickname alone

HAH

[mortal ginkgo]

EXCUSE ME WHERE ARE MODS I AM FEELING UNSAFE AND ATTACKED

[jaunty jewel]

god forbid someone have a differing opinion

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother you got anime pfp and 95% of the games you played are realted to touhou.

I mean, touhou is based but still. You are really at the low margin here I kek at you.

[whole drum]

I do, but they don't listen

[mortal ginkgo]

your opinions suck though

[clear mesa]

I mean I'm all for everyone having their own space I suppose which is why I don't tie myself to large servers like these which at the end of the day will protect their image over most things 🤷‍♂️

[soft marsh]

Anime PFP because I wanna feel Kawaii

[clear mesa]

Not sure if the mods are paid here, but even if they were I doubt they look into every report with detail and context to make a decision lol

[mortal ginkgo]

I tie myself to UR MOM LOL GOT'EM BROTHERMAN

[clear mesa]

I'm gonna call a trusted adult if you don't stop 😞

[jaunty jewel]

touhou pfp because i like touhou

[whole drum]

I tie myself to the naughty Starbucks mermaid

[soft marsh]

idk who that is tbh lol

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean... how trusty they are? 90%? 80? Are they overclocked? Kek

[clear mesa]

LMAOOOO???

[reef basin]

they mostly do, unless it's something like obvious spam or scam

[jaunty jewel]

touhou is a game franchise, my pfp is a character from said franchise, im doing a character for the starting letter of each month

[soft marsh]

Gotcha

[clear mesa]

That's good to know honestly, I only say that out of previous experiences with different servers, not first-hand experience from this one

[clear mesa]

Underclocked and the fuse just broke

[mortal ginkgo]

I am sure they do but not everything needs mod intervention.

This server is known for its well heated moments:

1- Pipes are wack / No you suck at making your pipes work
2- Cast Screws is good recipe / No noob lol get rid of screws entirely
3- Battery or Power Storage madness
4- Why use trains lol
5- I got belts everywhere lol
6- Impure Limestone Nodes and how EVERYONE agrees on how important they are.

99% of the time they die out on their own.

I think mods balance it fine.

[clear mesa]

My pfp is from a cool anime called south park

😎

[jaunty jewel]

for 2:
i dont like cast screws BUT i am not opposed to the use of screws

[mortal ginkgo]

I know a famouse quote that can get me insta banned

[reef basin]

2- Cast Screws is good recipe / No noob lol get rid of screws entirely
the point isn't about getting rid of screws, but about other recipes for screws being also useful and the skipped step having alts

[clear mesa]

This is beautiful only because so many possibilities popped into my head

[mortal ginkgo]

Fence-sitter is a term that weak people made.

Streel Screw recipe is amazing to make near HMF alt recipe

[jaunty jewel]

e.g solid steel -> steel rod -> screw having the highest output per iron

hell you can make screws with aluminium but i dont know why you would

[clear mesa]

Or just underclock the regular crafting recipe for screw production altogether so you have more constructors making screws

[jaunty jewel]

the base screw recipe and steel screw recipe are far superior to cast screw, cast screw is just early game power/space/material saving imo

[clear mesa]

Ngl I might need to just make a screw factory out of pure spite

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, alt recipes are amazing but I know some are not used even ONCE. like cmon, Aliminum Rods.

It is a use, but hardly functionality in the grand scheme of things

[jaunty jewel]

petroluem diamonds

i think inarguably the worst recipe in the game, only possibly seeing use if you have spare petro coke

[clear mesa]

Impure Limestone Node over here talking about unused items 🙄

[reef basin]

which is quite common if you have spare HOR

[mortal ginkgo]

There is one guy that I think made 50k screw/minute. People who hated screws jumped on him at reddit and how screws bad etc.

Little did these people know that, at the end of the video he showed he was making so many screws just to sink them.

So many clowns got exposed that day. Such society we be livin'.

[jaunty jewel]

i have never had spare HOR , either it makes fuel for diluted loop or it makes fuel for, fuel

[oak nymph]

Would drone be ok to transport 150sulfur/min?

[clear mesa]

Did it really give that many sink points...I suppose it is 50k/min

[mortal ginkgo]

I think one drone is enough yes.

[oak nymph]

Ok

[mortal ginkgo]

Though I know little about throughput of drones. 150/min is smol so.

[clear mesa]

Depends on distance and fuel too no?

[white dawn]

100k/min; Screws are 2 points. :D And yeah, probably far less ridiculous ways to get that many points. :D

Though if you're doing a project like that you're clearly just doing it because you enjoy the absurdity, so the project is its own reward

[obsidian quail]

ya at that point it's just having fun

[grim carbon]

why is it, when i try to find a raw quartz node, i scan it, go up to it, but when i get to abot 80m from it, it evades me?

[clear mesa]

Yeah exactly, sounds beautiful honestly

I'm more concerned at how many sinks he had at that point

[obsidian quail]

underground?

[mortal ginkgo]

He was there to prove a point. To send a message. To deliver a truth. To shun the society. To shame the clowns.

[grim carbon]

underground?

[clear mesa]

even with the highest tier belt you'd need just over 83 sinks to fully sink them

[grim carbon]

i thought all nodes were on the surface

[mortal ginkgo]

lets just say there were alot of sinks kek

[clear mesa]

Well now my idea of making a screw factory seems extremely undersized...

[mortal ginkgo]

there are a lot of valuable ones in caves

[obsidian quail]

like, in a cave i mean.

[grim carbon]

i got ya

i'm going to have to have a look

[fluid crow]

A drone could hold 1800 sulfur so it would take a pretty long trip to not do 150/m

[mortal ginkgo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1qhaa13/my_belated_design_screw_factory/

I think this is for you. It is VERY cute so make sure you don't get too much sugar!

[clear mesa]

ooo I like what he did with the alternating foundations/walls

Pretty fun way of making it look like an oversized version

Oh wow this is recent!

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup. There is an old SAM factory that looks like a .. SAM.

And it was very detailed.

[clear mesa]

I love that he mentions it makes the "occasional" ticket too... 😭

[rain hollow]

Hey where is the best place for a factory that needs to be REAAAAAAAAAALY big?

[mortal ginkgo]

"Big cuteness moment."

[mortal ginkgo]

Sky.

[clear mesa]

I need to use reddit more often just to see more of this

[rain hollow]

I meant on the ground

Also I hate you

[reef basin]

anywhere really. Map is huge and verticality is a thing

[iron portal]

Verticality my love

[dense violet]

build up. Infinite space

[rain hollow]

@mortal ginkgo you have cursed me with slow concrete production

[fluid crow]

the map shows elevation pretty well

[iron portal]

"Oh no, I ran out of space on all sides!" U P .

[rain hollow]

Already doing that but floors are to small to make it work very well

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah,%2 of Reddit is still safe. Also Satisfactory Reddit consists of two things in 90% amount:

1- That guy who has pipes problem with 34534539852 responds giving contradicting solutions that works for them but not rest of the world.

2- That guy who put 395834095830958309 fuel gens over 1m ficsit foundation land in sky and he aims to put more while having 5% power used as he doesn't work on anything else

[iron portal]

Like Icarus you shall reach to the sun
But unlike him your wings are not of wax and feathers, but are steel

[jaunty jewel]

make bigger floors

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, it is an obvious YOU problem.

[dense violet]

make more floors. And just about anywhere that isn't a cave can have very wide floors

[rain hollow]

I can't without ruining the whole "tower" look

[jaunty jewel]

use space more effectively

[mortal ginkgo]

Dune Desert me thinks

[clear mesa]

This could be mistaken for an accurate description of this server too anyways

[rain hollow]

How far is that from the grass area?

[clear mesa]

You did however forget the third most prominent issue, trains.

[leaden matrix]

Making blueprints:

[mortal ginkgo]

its top right of map so..

[iron portal]

YES

[mortal ginkgo]

Ah yes.

[iron portal]

I piled all my constructors onto each other

[rain hollow]

It's a very long walk isn't it...

[fluid crow]

grass area does have some pretty huge spaces

[clear mesa]

Shoot yourself across the map with a hypertube cannon 🫡

[rain hollow]

Yes but there's a lot of trees and it takes a long time to clear with nobelisks

[dense violet]

my dear person - again, literally any biome can have very wide and tall towers.

[rain hollow]

That could work

How many entrances does it need?

[oak nymph]

Right my entire concrete production consist of one overclock impure node

[leaden matrix]

Really tests your tetris skills, double points if you make it all look nice

[clear mesa]

2 if you make it properly

or was it 1?...

I haven't blueprinted one in a while

[mortal ginkgo]

You are playing the game C O R R E C T

[jaunty jewel]

use yourself as a test subject and find out

[mortal ginkgo]

get the faster run thingy, then bunny hop.

Or eh, restart in dune desert itself.

[jaunty jewel]

i dont like the loop cannons personally i can never correctly guess if i have the right speed

sure theyre better for power but i prefer consistency

[rain hollow]

Still would take a while, and I don't want to redo phase 1 and 2

[clear mesa]

Understandable although I find you end up getting a rythm to it eventually

[tropic juniper]

They only ever go to one spot too. I only make hyper loop tubes for going from floor to floor in one facility.

World traversal I use ziplines and power towers

[rain hollow]

Which nobelisks gives you the most speed without killing you in large quantities?

[jaunty jewel]

pulse

all the other ones will kill you way too fast

[lone echo]

i am making my first iron factory this playthrough and i don't know i am trying to make it neat but i am wasting a lot of space and it doesn't work like i want it to

[mortal ginkgo]

15 pulse can get you half the map with 30% health damage if you wack them with a melee hit

[dense violet]

what exactly are you trying to make per min?

[fluid crow]

made an exploration train from SW grass field through the desert #screenshots message

[lone echo]

i dont know i was hoping to wing it moreor less but obviously it isn't going well

i have 4 sets of 4 smelters

[dense violet]

winging it will rarely get smooth flowing production

[lone echo]

Ah... i'm making 10 feinforced iron plates /min

[zealous urchin]

uuugh reddit

[clear mesa]

Work down from there, see what you need and produce it :p

[dense violet]

here https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=KzSaJytzwWPkaI5sc29P

[clear mesa]

As the game progresses you'll practically be forced to plan factories out

It's best to just split your production into understandable chunks and work them 1 at a time

In your case work down from the assemblers to the constructors to the smelters to the amount of miners needed

[lone echo]

Waiiit i used that calculator once and i've been looking for it

[oak nymph]

Why the hell are drone port so pricey in electricity

[lone echo]

Tsym

[clear mesa]

Cause drone

[dense violet]

no prob 🙂 it takes a little practice to learn but has amazing functionality 🙂

[oak nymph]

They should

[lone echo]

Ik i used it once a while ago and was trying to find it for a while i cannot thank you enough

It was on one of my pre 1.0 worlds for fuel

[clear mesa]

I still hate the way you have to uncheck and check recipes to use certain alts 😞

[dense violet]

any time 😄 it's my fav

[lone echo]

Guess i have to tear this thing down then

[dense violet]

You could try to use a brain to computer interface instead I guess?
but yeah you gotta 'do stuff' to 'do stuff'

[clear mesa]

I get you, i just wish there'd be a dropdown or something so i can quickly compare and contrast between them

[dense violet]

As in compare the resources needed?
I can't imagine a faster way of doing it.

search keyword of hte recipe to shorten the list, check it and uncheck the other recipe

[feral jay]

Hi everyone, I need to cook dinner. Thank you for listening.

• @feral jay

[dense violet]

or clone the tab and edit it to have them side by side

[clear mesa]

You're right n all, I just feel it'd be better to have a way for it to automatically group up any possible alts on the visualisation tab itself (maybe directly under an item that has multiple recipes) allowing you to switch one or the other directly instead.

[dense violet]

Don't get me wrong, I'd be 1000% for a faster cleaner way of doing it.

I just can't imagine one

[clear mesa]

I doubt im explaining myself clearly

[quasi warren]

i got steel screws and steel rods in one HD

[dusk sleet]

Was there anything ever said about elavators with 4 doors?

[dense violet]

both have their uses 🙂

[dense violet]

do you mean group up recipes in the recipe list?

because all the recipes have their own bubbles in the vis part

[modest kernel]

What's the difference between a smart and programmable splitter?

[dense violet]

more output options on each output

progs have very niche uses. Most people will never need them

[clear mesa]

Err no not exactly.

Take it as if I was looking up how to make rotors.

If I could simply on the visualisation tab itself hover over the rotor and change the recipe directly to copper rotor, hence changing the full recipe.

OR

Hover over the Iron rod precursor and change it to steel rod, only changing what comes before that.

All directly through the visualisation itself by method of simply inherently grouping up each item with it's own associated alt recipes.

Does this make more sense? I don't know..its 1am and I can't tell if this is a good idea :p

Feels like it'd be more intuitive naturally though no?

[dense violet]

ok you want a drop down menu you could access from the bubbles

[oak nymph]

Can drone clip through thing

[eager palm]

That would slap

[clear mesa]

Yes so one wouldn't need to stay going back and forth

[dense violet]

That might be awkward when you have plans that have items made with multiple recipes though. Not sure how that would work
@reef basin I don't know if that's an idea you've had for hte new tool?

it sounds like it could be convenient if it's not heinous to implement

I suppose I'm pretty used to just swapping to the recipe and tapping in a few letters to pull up the recipe I want to use

[clear mesa]

It's definitely something that came to my mind purely out of my own laziness

[dense violet]

no taht's fair. greeny might be asleep but he'll see that eventually xD

[eager palm]

It would be cool to see how to utilise multiple recipes logistically based on available resources via dropdowns on the bubbles.

[dense violet]

as a mechanism it's not a bad idea. No idea how difficult it'd be to implement

[reef basin]

what message contains the idea that you're talking about? 🤔

[dense violet]

this one

basically dropping down a mini recipe menu from bubbles in the visualisation

like a quick recipe acess I guess?

[clear mesa]

Yeah basically

[rain hollow]

Good because I'm making 100

[lone echo]

Hey thanks for the calculator but is there a way to make power a production option... i dont see it

[dense violet]

you just make the fuel 🙂

and then decide how many generators you want to run

[whole drum]

!wikisearch fuel generator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel+generator

[lone echo]

Thx sorry

[whole drum]

Look at the ratios for the gens and multiply according to the fuel you want to use

[lone echo]

I can just do the mutiplication myself sorry

[reef basin]

as Cobalt said - it's a bit problematic with cases:

• item is made with multiple recipes
• the node you click on makes multiple things

also, you wouldn't be able to guarantee that the recipe actually changes (unless changing it would "force" it by disabling all other options for it)

[dense violet]

which I think could still be useful - most of the time you want 1 recipe for 1 item

[clear mesa]

I assumed the fix wouldnt be simple otherwise it'd have been implemented already :p

[whole drum]

Rocket Fuel 3,600 MJ 14.4 sec 4.1666... m3/min[no

I hate this number so much

[leaden matrix]

The lion cares not that his max energy consumption is nearly double his output, he will not touch it untill it stops working

[reef basin]

that's 12.5 per 3 gens

[dense violet]

oh no. A period between numbers

25 per 6 gens. Perfect

no evil dots

[whole drum]

It's not that it's a decimal. It's that it's an annoying one.

[dense violet]

WAIT. I USED A PERIOD AFTER

[reef basin]

there's also the "I'm making new tools so don't want to spend time on old tools"

[whole drum]

Speaking of which. What are the main changes you aim to make with new tools?

[reef basin]

that would be a list of like 50 things 😄

[whole drum]

Broad strokes, major highlights 🙂

[clear mesa]

Fully understandable man, i'd love to take a crack at it if it ever becomes open source :p. Would be a fun learning experience.

[dense violet]

is there a post in your server with an overview?

[reef basin]

(also don't want to promise much, as "I intend to do X" and "X will be done" are two different things 🙂 )

[whole drum]

Totally understand

Part of why I asked "aim to" 😉

Maybe inverting the question would be more useful--what are you unsatisfied with regarding old tools?

[near siren]

i really dislike how you cant place the fences on the trinagle peices of floor tiles

[indigo kiln]

I dislike how there's only one size of the industrial fence

[dense violet]

build a foundation at an angle, build fence, replace foundation with the triangle

[whole drum]

Just make everything square

[dense violet]

make everything a circle

[reef basin]

things that I can say for sure are making into new Tools:

• user profiles (login -> shared plans across devices)
• power + sink point support for planning
• modifying of the resulting plan (to what extent I do not know yet) - rearranging nodes, changing clock speeds, splitting nodes, manually adding ones - any of these (or all or none) can make it into the tool (and ofc any of those that get implemented will persist between reloads/refreshes)

[indigo kiln]

Way ahead of you

[near siren]

yea im trying to make a road network and this was a set back haha

[whole drum]

"All these squares make a circle..."

[reef basin]

mostly codebase being in crap state making new features be pain to add, also the tech stack is super outdated (at least parts of it) and generally many decisions I've made in the ancient days when we had way different situations are haunting me now

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture is a good place for design trouble shooting 🙂

[near siren]

thanks bud

[reef basin]

there's not too much that I'm unhappy with feature-wise (speaking about current features it has, not features it is missing)

[indigo kiln]

Are you a dev greeny?

[reef basin]

as a job? yea

[whole drum]

Neat

[reef basin]

not CSS dev though

[indigo kiln]

CSS is fun to fuck around in

[oak nymph]

Do I need to tell the drone port to do a loop or it will do it itself

[scenic mirage]

Cascading style sheet isnt real dev work

[indigo kiln]

Oh I'm retarded you meant satisfactory not CSS and HTML

[reef basin]

well, I'm neither CSS dev

[indigo kiln]

I was trying to be nice but I agree lol

[reef basin]

though I can do some styling if asked to

I generally don't like working with styles tho

[whole drum]

You have to tell the drone port what its destination is

It will just go there and back

[oak nymph]

Ok

[whole drum]

If there is fuel in the port's fuel slot, the drone will refuel anywhere it stops

At any port that has fuel, that is

[feral jay]

I've seen his work, he's a pretty good one

[crisp solar]

I had a question about friends who join ur world after they leave there characters sit idle on the floor till next time they join and it kinda gets in the way so I didn’t know if there was a feature to move them or like remove them sitting there

[dense violet]

kill the body

[reef basin]

kill them with anything

[crisp solar]

Oh that awesome

Kill them in cold blood. I never thought of that lol

[modest kernel]

Words cannot express how much I hate liquids

[crisp solar]

I’m scared of all that..

[dense violet]

there are very simple ways to manage pipes 🙂 what are you trying to do?

[crisp solar]

My savior 🥲

[modest kernel]

im not even to oil yet all the liquid ive been dealing with is water

[iron portal]

Anyone have tips for getting curves and angles?

[dense violet]

ther'es a number of vids on youtube with good techniques? 🙂

[dense violet]

post in #math-and-meta I can help

[crisp solar]

Hay can I send a screenshot of my coal factory to you? And u tell me if there’s any errors or ways to improve

[dense violet]

I'm happy to help you with fluids as well in #math-and-meta for the next little bit

[tropic juniper]

Lol it is. Front end developers use it in their jobs all the time.

[oak nymph]

Simple 🥲

I literally had one pipe going up into one machine I put a pump because it was high then 10m( ~20m) and still it wouldn't flow

[indigo kiln]

Water is confusing me

[dense violet]

I can help if you send me images in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

ditto to you , usually a simple solution

[oak nymph]

Nah I fixed it myself by over clocking the machine on the first floor so it wouldn't go up

[dense violet]

suuuuure but that sounds like a wobbly solution. Always good to know exactly what is going on in a system

[oak nymph]

I would've like to

[frosty mirage]

God damn it feels so good to rebuild my 1st noodle factory, it looks 10 times better

[unkempt blade]

I agree, they should have just used factory carts and a ramp instead

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 if you like and ping me 🙂

[oak nymph]

I will next time

[indigo kiln]

I LITERALLY COPY AND PASTED WHY ONLY ONE SIDE WORKING

[dense violet]

#1038092680493801533 with overhead images

[indigo kiln]

It started working?

[dense violet]

keep an eye on the row of lights for 30 seconds , see if there's a yellow flicker

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ we dont NEED front end devs. We can have a basic site with just text and basic html buttons

[indigo kiln]

It's working perfectly fine now I guess the buffer was filling or something?

I don't know I'll get proven wrong when my whole ass base turns off

[tropic juniper]

People will use terminals and be happy

[dense violet]

buffers tend to wreck flow so not surprised you're getting wonky results

[indigo kiln]

Is it better just to not have them?

[tropic juniper]

I like to preload my machines with stuff I've scavenged from torn down builds

[indigo kiln]

TEMPLE OS MY LOVE

[dense violet]

basically

[indigo kiln]

So then what's the point of them?

[dense violet]

the only place where you need buffers is fluid trains.

in every other situation there's more reliable solution than buffers

[tropic juniper]

Design Crutch

[dense violet]

and in the vast majority of situations the ydon't do anything but create a possible failure point

[whole ermine]

its 4 cars per 1 locomotive right

[hard stump]

So for Xbox is there a way to delete saved blueprints?

[hard stump]

Yes you can add a extra that’s fine it’s just for slopes mainly

[dense violet]

depends on your rail, you can have more. but 1:4 can climb 2m ramps

[vital flame]

Who here hasn’t been playing since early access?

[dense violet]

many prob

[tropic juniper]

I had it on epic store day 1

[zenith sage]

Why did the modeler suddenly started recalculating everything without any change in variables and died...

[indigo kiln]

Me

[unkempt blade]

maybe it was solar flares?

[indigo kiln]

Does the hyper tubes have a max length I keep getting kicked out in the middle of my tube

[zenith sage]

Just delete that (and maybe the parts around it) and rebuild, happened to me too for some reason

[indigo kiln]

Mm okay

[modest kernel]

how do a rotate pipe junctions to be vertical

[zenith sage]

If it's on a pipe you should be able to normally, if its not lock first

[unkempt blade]

should tell you at the bottom of the screen normally

[dense violet]

middle mouse wheel

[void cliff]

if I have two water extractors feeding an elevated manifold (one feeding one end of the manifold, one feeding the other end), do I need water pumps on both pipes coming from each extractor? or do pumps on one vertical pipe provide head for the entire loop?

[dense violet]

one on each most likely

[scarlet prism]

@timber saffron You cant post links in #1201555265942724758

or well discord invites included, thats why your thing got deleted, you'd have to repost it without one

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message why are these path signals failing

[scarlet prism]

Wish I could help you, sadly I'm a noob in satisfactory.

[dense violet]

build the bottom right signal a little further from the actual junction point

[sick falcon]

oh right

i always forget that little quirk

[dense violet]

sometimes signals don't like being right on junctions

just 1.1 things

[true mulch]

You have to place them against a wall

[modest kernel]

you can also do it on other pipes

[true mulch]

Yeah but then it's not necessarily grid aligned

[whole ermine]

is there a way to highlight issues with your track

"signal loops on itself" isnt very helpful

[true mulch]

That error is a generic "failed to create block" error

You can try rebuilding signals or tracks

In the case of junctions, try pushing the signals back a little bit

[indigo kiln]

What's stopping me from doing a sushi belt fed dimensional depot?

[dense violet]

it'll get clogged

you'd have to use all the resources you are feeding in them in the right proportions and order to keep it flowing

[fluid crow]

a circuit network to tell it what to feed

[sick falcon]

ada never thought to make an exit port on the depot for overflow

[indigo kiln]

a what

[sick falcon]

probably bc that would be insanely broken

[oak nymph]

I got 1per min nuclear pasta automated let's go

[indigo kiln]

You should eat it

[oak nymph]

Look tasty

Why can't I use it as fuel it says like 1000MW on the description or smth like that

[fluid crow]

maybe bio generator

[whole ermine]

somehow its creating seperate blocks without any signals

ive tried deleting it and rebuilding it multiple times

[dense violet]

post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images of the blocks

[fluid crow]

no rails=separate blocks 😆

[whole ermine]

ok i tabbed out and tabbed back in and it fucking fixed itself without any thing changing??????

why are trains in this game like this

[leaden matrix]

The lion blew a fuse

[whole ermine]

ok now a different part is broken

[dense violet]

#satisfactory message

[lapis shadow]

Does priority group 1 have the highest priority to break circuit first or does priority group 8 break first? With priority power switches of course. In other words, where should I put my plants so that they break last

[zenith sage]

The latter

[whole ermine]

its fixed again

[lapis shadow]

Ok thanks. A little counter-intuitive though if you ask me haha. Usually priority 1 is referred to as the highest priority in most contexts

Or I guess it's saying that group 1 is highest priority to not break, so makes sense then

nvm

[zenith sage]

Yeah, highest priority, so it's the most important thing to keep working

[whole drum]

Well, the early steps of my micro-mega-factory are coming along... 😄
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1462991409509564458

It's not intended to be a "true" megafactory, but rather, a place where I'm automating all my project assembly parts.

[whole ermine]

this playthrough im not gonna build my rails on the grid

[zenith sage]

How do you even build rails on a grid..? Just on foundations?

[whole ermine]

yeah

although my base is set in the void thing in the grass fields

so on every side its ramps

[zenith sage]

I always just put pillars and connect the rails (I do have a mod that lets me build 1km of rail without stop tho...)

[rain hollow]

Just found my first SAM node and put 10 portable miners on it

[whole ermine]

which node?

[rain hollow]

Lemme check

-240, 2699

It's normal purity

In the ravine under the giant arch thing that has purple power slug on it

[whole drum]

Why not a regular miner?

[rain hollow]

Because I have no power here, I just found it and don't have power here yet

[dusky hedge]

sam is a pretty big step in mam progress, a full inventory can get you a long way

[rain hollow]

Plus I think it's pretty deep down so it'd be pretty annoying to get power down here

[whole drum]

If you don't have Steel Pipes yet, it isn't very useful

[rain hollow]

I already have 1000 from the portable miners

I also put a marker on it

I now have 2000 SAM from the portable miners

Should put an elevator from the top of the ravine down to here

Hyper tube would probably be faster though

[hollow schooner]

What biome and where in it would someone recommend to start in? I plan on moving to the northern forest a bit later but want a really quick start through the first few tiers

[dense violet]

they are all very similar to one another

[rain hollow]

Honestly I would suggest the dessert because from what I hear it's pretty open

[dusky hedge]

northern forest is best at the start

[dense violet]

except northern forest where you have to build vertically but have some closer nodes

[rain hollow]

Probably not good for first starting but once you pick up some momentum then it'll probably be good because at that point you'll have a decently big factory meaning you won't be able to really move it

[surreal ingot]

i reaserched 27 hard drives before getting diluted packaged fuel

[primal crypt]

im loving the desert, it did take me at least 10 hour to get a handle on trucks.

[rain hollow]

I should've started there

[whole drum]

How far have you gone into the game before?

[primal crypt]

i wasa always affrid to wanted to save it for the end but near got thier.

id say the only place i dont like is gras lands sence quartz is so far away.

[surreal ingot]

thats where i started

made my giant start factory

[zenith sage]

Are trucks actually useful..? I honestly never even tried using them

[primal crypt]

is very prety otherwise

[surreal ingot]

#screenshots message

[hollow schooner]

Only a little past Oil. I've always been too focused on building rather then progression and only isolated myself to the northern forest

[oak nymph]

How much POWER can I make out of one impure uranium node if I don't do plutonium only uranium fuel rod

[whole drum]

I would probably pick Forest or Rocky then

Unless you just want something entirely different

[primal crypt]

i just posted the garare ive been working on into screenshots. this is the third revision.

[dusky hedge]

th eonly thing hard about northern forest is fighting the low level hogs, and limited space to build on flat ground, but there is plenty to get you to foundations and walls to build upwards

[primal crypt]

i wont need any more trackors on any line untill mk 6.

[dusky hedge]

if you can sidestep a hog and whack it to death its pretty easy

[frank ruin]

Is there an alternative recipie for the empry fluid tank?

[whole drum]

It's a very temporary issue since once you get the chainsaw, you can clear as much build space as you need

[oak nymph]

Steel

[dusky hedge]

there realy is not much flat ground where i build, likeone big valley enough to set up all baic production for a mall

[whole drum]

There's enough space, but you are supposed to build with some verticality

[frank ruin]

Not the canister, the tank

[rain hollow]

Just unlocked the dimensional depot

[whole drum]

I tend to build that way frequently anyway, so it doesn't bother me any

[dusky hedge]

if you like exploring the personal uploader is awesome

[rain hollow]

The one where you can upload from the inventory?

[frank ruin]

That one is really worth it

[rain hollow]

I have enough Mercer spheres for only a few upgrades

[frank ruin]

Once you unlock it you wont regret it

[rain hollow]

I'll do the personal uploader but which should I do after that?

[oak nymph]

Stack size

[whole drum]

Up to you, but I tend to do 1 storage upgrade, 2-3 speed upgrades, then matching storage

[rain hollow]

What's it do?

[dusky hedge]

keep them for containers for now

[frank ruin]

I personally prefer upgrading the depot space one time, then the upload speed and repeat

[rain hollow]

What do you mean?

[whole drum]

Early on having at least 1 storage upgrade and all your core building parts on DDs is crucial

[zenith sage]

Early game stack size is definitely nicer, but later I feel like upload speed is more important (you'll max out both anyway)

[dusky hedge]

you need them to build upload containers

[rain hollow]

I have no clue what the Mercer spheres are used for other than upgrading the depot

[rain hollow]

Oh so they're needed for building uploaders as well?

[whole drum]

Yes

[zenith sage]

Yep

[feral jay]

Also for building dimensional uploaders

[rain hollow]

I see

[whole drum]

1 each

[frank ruin]

1 per uploader

[rain hollow]

Just one?

[frank ruin]

Yep

[rain hollow]

Nice

[frank ruin]

The thing is that merce spheres are not infinite

Theyre limited

[whole drum]

They are plentiful tho

[frank ruin]

There are a lot anyway

[oak nymph]

You can upload 2 stack of an item rather then one

[feral jay]

There's more than enough to upload everything from a single container, and also unlock all the upgrades

[rain hollow]

How long does it take to upload? And does it do everything in it at once or a stack at a time of whatever is inside it?

[oak nymph]

At first 30/min

[feral jay]

!wikisearch dimensional_depot_uploader

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=dimensional_depot_uploader

[rain hollow]

Not terrible

[whole drum]

It uploads in order of what is placed in the boxes or your personal uploader (left to right)

[dusky hedge]

you understand the basics, it wil all become obvious after youiuse it a while

[frank ruin]

They work like a full container, it wont go in if its not the same item

[rain hollow]

Looks kinda like a ghost trap

[swift turret]

15,30,60,120,240

[frank ruin]

If you dont trust it you can search the wiki yourself, but I dont reccomend it, just to avoid spoilers

But its the official bot

Its not a ghost trap

[rain hollow]

It's a no brainer to put at least two down for right now, concrete and iron plates

[oak nymph]

Huh isn't it 30, 60, 90, 120, 240

[rain hollow]

But it looks like one

[zenith sage]

I'm pretty sure it was 15 at first

[frank ruin]

At least you are cautious lmao

[oak nymph]

You're right

[zenith sage]

And it does always double iirc

[rain hollow]

They should put that in the customizer

[frank ruin]

At first when I saw it upgrades lower every time i though it was a scam, but then realized its just math and it doubles

[swift turret]

it is a scam

[zenith sage]

Aren't the percentages weird tho.. I'm not in the game rn, but wasn't the 240/min description says something like "It'll be 6.25% more efficient"..?

[frank ruin]

Yes something like that

Let me look

[oak nymph]

It's not instinctive but it makes sense

[feral jay]

No, it takes 6.25% of the time to upload a single item, than it takes to upload a single item without the speed upgrades

It's backwards and unintuitive

[zenith sage]

Ahh... it's that way, then yeah, it makes sense.. but it's still very weird

[dusky hedge]

isnt it half the time each step, or twice as fast?

[frank ruin]

Twice

[feral jay]

yeah each upgrade doubles the upload speed

[frank ruin]

They should rewrite that part of the MAm

[feral jay]

So another way of looking at is each upgrade cuts the time required to upload a single item in half

After 4 upgrades, that's 6.25%

100/2⁴

[rain hollow]

Just need some computers then I can make the personal uploader

[frank ruin]

Nice

A bit ago i was playing drunk

Fun experience, totally recomend it

[feral jay]

Last time I did that I had to spend several hours debugging my power grid a few days later

[zenith sage]

If I'd get jumped by poison spider while drunk... I don't wanna imagine it...

[rain hollow]

Never mind I'm one reanimated SAM short of making the 29 SAM fluctuators

[feral jay]

Automate that shit

[rain hollow]

Later

[frank ruin]

Lmaooo

[frank ruin]

The sooner the better

[rain hollow]

THE LAZY SHALL PREVAIL!

[frank ruin]

A real lazy automates everything posible to just wair

[zenith sage]

You need a manufacturer for that, I doubt you usually find your first sam after you have it unlocked

[frank ruin]

In my work I automated like 1/4 of the job cuz im lazy, only took 1 afternoon

[rain hollow]

I found my first SAM deposit after I unlocked the manufacturer

[frank ruin]

Guys, I need a really good explanation to convice my friends to play satisfactory, I cant just tell them its a lot of math

[dense violet]

do they like sand box games? designing and architecture?
if yes, they should buy it

[rain hollow]

Tell them you can destroy the environment with nuclear bombs

[zenith sage]

Uhh... compare it to minecraft, but it's mostly hoppers and redstone?

[versed cosmos]

where do yall make your crystal oscillators?

[dense violet]

eh, redstone has logic gates, but it's not dissimilar to minecraft

[frank ruin]

I have a nuclear bomb from the ficmas event, how powerful is it? Thoes it destroy constructions? Or is like a normal bomb but more powerful

[dense violet]

anywhere with iron and crystal.

[versed cosmos]

well ofc

[frank ruin]

A friend saw a little bit and comapred it to technical monecraft

[versed cosmos]

im finding that quartz is a bit hard to find

[frank ruin]

I reccomend using trucks to move the quartz part to a comfortable area

[feral jay]

lol this save I belted quartz crystals halfway across the rocky desert to make oscillators

[dense violet]

well it'll depend where it needs to be 🙂
you can use the online map. Radar towers to help find things too

[frank ruin]

Whats your spawn?

[versed cosmos]

rocky desert

[frank ruin]

Then Idk srry

[versed cosmos]

looking for quartz on the surface ideally

[dense violet]

there's crystal in the middle of hte RD in the cave

just belt it out

[primal crypt]

its inside a tunnel

[feral jay]

THere's really only one place for quartz in the rocky desert

[dense violet]

it's possible to clip a lift through the ceiling I believe

[primal crypt]

very fun to make a trian extract it.

[versed cosmos]

yeah the roof of the cave is surprisingly thin

[rain hollow]

My hands

[primal crypt]

lemm show your something

[versed cosmos]

there's some quartz near the swamp i could use

[primal crypt]

gota switch to my other save

[versed cosmos]

im making aluminium there so radio control units would be easy

rocky desert also isnt ideal because im already using most of the iron nodes there

[oak nymph]

I'm making them north west

Close to the water

[versed cosmos]

that's the rocky desert lol

there is some quartz way up north in the dunes i could use

[oak nymph]

I found a quartz and bauxite mode close to the red plateau

[versed cosmos]

looking at the insulated crystal oscilator alt and i could use copper, caterium, and oil instead of iron

not a great trade but it saves a bunch on quartz

[frank ruin]

I really want to make trains intersections and fill the map with trains but I found WAY easier to use a 1 line train to move some items and make the train comeback in the same line

[versed cosmos]

yeah thats how i run my trains

a train network is a big project

[frank ruin]

And rn I unlocked drones in my current save that are way easier and fast to setup

[versed cosmos]

push pull is viable but not expandable

[rain hollow]

Just built a personnel elevator all the way down to the SAM deposit

[frank ruin]

The one in a cave near the first spawn?

[primal crypt]

alright i posted what im doing for queartaz in my work into screen shots im sure some people her ehave done it etter

[frank ruin]

I always (2 times) moved the raw sam up

[rain hollow]

Very deep ravine under the massive arch with a purple power slug at the top of it

[frank ruin]

What channel?

[rain hollow]

With the weird plant/creature things that create gas

[primal crypt]

screen shots

[frank ruin]

Yeah, we re talking bout the same spot

[primal crypt]

yes thier under ground

but in the same desert

[rain hollow]

I have ten portable miners on it since power isn't brought down there yet

[frank ruin]

Can I post a screenshot of my ig story when i played satisfactory drunk? Ot is it onlye in game screenshots?

[rain hollow]

I think I can use the elevator to transport the power though

[versed cosmos]

yeah elevators transport power

[bitter dirge]

is there a limit to the amount of portable miners u can put on one resource?

[coral marsh]

Can a truck stop at 2 stations?

[frank ruin]

How many can fit is the limit i think

[coral marsh]

Comes down to available space left

[versed cosmos]

not an enforced one. youll be limited by how much you can fit on the node

[bitter dirge]

oo

thats still quite a lot lol ty

[rain hollow]

Nice

[versed cosmos]

i would suggest instead of portable miners, set up a miner feeding ore to a container on some biofuel power

[frank ruin]

Yeah, it can go trough varius stations but I find it easier to make a go and back path

[feral jay]

I've fit around a hundred, but the problem with that many is they're not very interactable because the hitboxes overlap

[coral marsh]

Good to know, im overlapping at one area on SAM ore so I now know i can divert some of it for another area.

[frank ruin]

But I highly recommend a normal miner

[bitter dirge]

oo

[primal crypt]

id say to keep trains going pint to point sence they dont hold enogn to keep betls full other wise.

[rain hollow]

The portables are temporary until power is down there

[indigo kiln]

I feel like I'm going to die of old age before completing phase 2

[frank ruin]

But i think it will leave all sam in the first station

[rain hollow]

I'll set up a belt lift when I bring power down

[versed cosmos]

what are you struggling with?

[bitter dirge]

is it faster?

[indigo kiln]

Laziness

[rain hollow]

Unlocking SAM is making things a whole lot more interesting

[versed cosmos]

this is what automation is for

[indigo kiln]

Don't feel like increasing the spaghetti

[frank ruin]

So if u want to divide it I recommend using a splitter from the output of the station dividing half of it to the input of the same station

[versed cosmos]

smart splitters really help reduce spaghetti

because you can sushi belt

[feral jay]

It's not that it's faster, it's that they actually have an output belt you can hook up to machines to automate stuff

[versed cosmos]

load multiple products onto the same belt and split it again with the smart splitter

[rain hollow]

Actually... What if I set up a system that extracts SAM, turns it into reanimated SAM then puts it in a dimensional depot on site?

[versed cosmos]

miners are also a bit faster than portable miners

[rain hollow]

I know

[versed cosmos]

portable miners do 20/40/80 per min

[frank ruin]

1 miner < a lot of portable miners in raw resources, but 1 miner > any amount of pm in automation

[bitter dirge]

oh true but that means i need to have enough resources to run the mateerial all the way to my base or make a factory at the resources

[primal crypt]

id say of your stugling try to make only a little of eveything and just foucus on the next thing you should be doing. You will get better evey facory you build.

[feral jay]

Welcome to the game lol

[primal crypt]

and dont compare yourself to others playing the game allot longer.

[frank ruin]

You are in really really early game, I reccomend exploring it yourself and building what makes sense to you and come back here when you want to fully optimize

[solid lotus]

GUYS I FINALLY MADE IT PAST TIER 2💪

[frank ruin]

🤯🤯

[rain hollow]

Could you use dimensional depots to "get rid of" nuclear waste since it can't be destroyed?

[rain hollow]

Noice

[versed cosmos]

temporarily i guess

[frank ruin]

Mmmmm yes but not recomendable

[solid lotus]

Ik im a noob😭

[rain hollow]

It was hypothetical, I'm only at tier 6

[frank ruin]

It will cap out at ur limit

And they produce a LOT of nuclear waste

[versed cosmos]

also drones can burn nuclear fuel without generating waste

[solid lotus]

Also I meant phase 2

[bitter dirge]

tbf i do wanna optimize it a little for the beginning because ... i have gotten to phase 2 before.. i wanna restart though cuz i had some burn out a little

[solid lotus]

What tier are drones? Im curious

[primal crypt]

that's great i havent made it past phase 2 in my truck playthough. its been to long for me to jump into an old save.

[frank ruin]

What i do is storage it all in a really big storage place and then later u can use it

[feral jay]

8

[coral marsh]

I don't need much for the 2nd area

[solid lotus]

Are trucks or tractors better? I have access to both (and trains but there to expensive rn)

[rain hollow]

I thought it couldn't be used for anything and just sits there

[coral marsh]

Im running 3 converters for caterium to bauxite since the nearest bauxite nodes are 2+km away

[coral marsh]

Trucks can store a shit ton more

[versed cosmos]

automate what you need to make trains

that's the real answer lol

[frank ruin]

Then u can calculate the time it takes to drop all the sam and make it stay a little bit less time

[fluid crow]

belts

[versed cosmos]

factory carts

[frank ruin]

Its hard tough

[solid lotus]

That requires rebuilding EVERYTHING and making a bigger factory instead of like 3 smaller ones😭

[frank ruin]

Yes, but there is a limit amount you can deposit

[versed cosmos]

what do you need to make trains

[solid lotus]

Ive already played for 20ish hours in the past 2 days😭

[versed cosmos]

steel beams and pipes

i think heavy frames

[frank ruin]

Take your time

[versed cosmos]

encased beams

[solid lotus]

Also I still need to research it

[feral jay]

Welcome to the game, every challnge the game gives you involves making a bigger factory 😄

[versed cosmos]

this all being from memory so imma be wrong

[frank ruin]

And play like you want

[versed cosmos]

what do you need to transport long distance anyway?

[solid lotus]

Game makes brain hurt. Cant calculate maximum efficiency anymore

[frank ruin]

Use the page satisfacotry tools

[solid lotus]

Not really anything. I just dont like having conveyors going from 800+ meters

[feral jay]

I'm actually doing that this save, and yeah, it's astoundingly... "thinky"

[frank ruin]

It saved me a lot

[solid lotus]

It still makes my brain hurt

[frank ruin]

Yeah… really tough game

[dusky hedge]

efficiency is not necessary in this game, most of my factories are idle

[solid lotus]

It makes so much more when you maximize everything though

[coral marsh]

Im having so much fun setting up a big factory just for 96 bolted singularity cells per minute.

[fluid crow]

once built it works without energy or failure

[primal crypt]

youn will want to use tooks phase 4 and on i like doing algebra but that stuff gets nasty later one.

[coral marsh]

I eventually wanna try and tackle 320 a minute using the ficsonium cell recipe but thats gonna be like, 400 hours down the line lol

[frank ruin]

Don’t maximize everything if u will not enjoy it, its a game after all, play it like you want just make sure to have fun doing it

[coral marsh]

Yo bro, we got the same first name

[solid lotus]

I finally got steel rotors. I hope thats a good alternate recipe😭

[versed cosmos]

it is

[coral marsh]

It is very much so

[primal crypt]

my name is thomas IRL

[solid lotus]

Yo twinnnnn we got the same name

[coral marsh]

So is mine

I use Nikolai since its my preferred name

[obsidian quail]

i currently have three steel factories in various areas of the map just because i keep getting distracted and trying to build better... efficiency!

[solid lotus]

AINT NO WAY😭😭😭

[coral marsh]

We got 3 Thomas's in the chat?

Thats dope

[solid lotus]

Yeah🤣🤣🤣

[versed cosmos]

midlde name thomas here

[coral marsh]

Fuck yea

[frank ruin]

Where do u use algebra??? I have only used a lot of multiplications, division and powes of

[coral marsh]

I have 2 middle names

[solid lotus]

This is peak male experiences right here

[coral marsh]

💯

[primal crypt]

if you prees N you can do math in game.

[frank ruin]

I have a buddy named Tomas, hope that counts

[coral marsh]

Btw, the copper rotor recipe produces just over twice the amount per min that steel rotors produces but it requires screws

[primal crypt]

i learned to do math in fresman chemistry.

[frank ruin]

Yes but none of it is algebra is it¿

[coral marsh]

Yes, it does

[solid lotus]

I know 8 Thomas's now. This is great

[coral marsh]

Epic, I only know about 5 now

[solid lotus]

My best friend is Thomas but goes by Tommy lol. Just so we dont confuse others🤣

[frank ruin]

Fuck screws, all my homies unlock alt recipes without them

[coral marsh]

I had a friend with the same situation

[coral marsh]

I dont mind screws because the steel screws recipe exists. Huge help

[solid lotus]

I almost got the copper rotor recipe but said FUCK screws bc rn there the death of me

[solid lotus]

I have that! Is it good?

[coral marsh]

Yes

If you have steel screws alt recipe it is good

[versed cosmos]

I see the benefit of steel screws but I don't want to bring another resource in just for screws

[solid lotus]

Isnt it like 52 screws for like 3 steel pipe? (Correct me if im wrong)

[versed cosmos]

If I'm already making steel there then maybe

But I'd rather use cast screw or go screwless then use steel screws in most situations

[frank ruin]

In wich channel can I post a picture of when I was drunk playing?

[versed cosmos]

reddit

[coral marsh]

Lmao

Right answer

[frank ruin]

I dont want to use reddit though :(

[solid lotus]

I found SAM earlier. What does it really do?

[versed cosmos]

a bunch of cool physics breaking stuff

[coral marsh]

1 steel beam for 260 screws, if you wanna use the copper rotor recipe you can overclock the assembler to 250% and only need 1 foundry and constructor

[feral jay]

It sings a blood-song that laps at your shores

[frank ruin]

Wait and see

[solid lotus]

Just what I need. More stuff to make my brain hurt🫩

[versed cosmos]

Consume.

[coral marsh]

Nah dont over think it

[solid lotus]

I got the depot thingy. The dimensional depot thingy

Idk what it does💔

[versed cosmos]

depot is amazing

[dense violet]

+later game stuff

for the most part

alien tech

[versed cosmos]

it uploads resources to an inventory you can access anywhere

[fluid crow]

I'm too busy making scenic train lines to progress.

[versed cosmos]

are you having fun though?

[solid lotus]

So kinda like ender chests in Minecraft?

[versed cosmos]

yeah like an ender chest

[solid lotus]

Dope

[frank ruin]

Yes but better

[versed cosmos]

your build gun can pull from it as youre building

good for blueprints

[solid lotus]

Should I start using blueprints? (Somehow made it to phase 2 without them. Sounds confusing)

[fluid crow]

at least in small ways

[frank ruin]

It work really well with modular builda

[versed cosmos]

theyre good but the first blueprint designer is pretty tight on space

[dense violet]

if you want. Make a few machines with belts and power connected. then print them

[solid lotus]

Im assuming its good for factory building

[versed cosmos]

i like to make things like a pipeline junction that's already rotated vertically

[dense violet]

sure

[solid lotus]

Manifolds will be my lifeline. I shall make manifold blueprints

[feral jay]

Manifolds are cheating. REAL players handbomb everything.

[solid lotus]

If there cheating then why are they in the game🧐

[feral jay]

Because Coffee Stain neglected to consult me on this matter 😛

[whole drum]

Crafting Bench is cheating. You're supposed to automate everything.

Should try a playthrough sometime with no storage containters, DDs, and no bench after Phase 1

[feral jay]

Gotta love bagging an elite stinger right as it jumps off a cliff to attack you, and watching it ragdoll to the ground while leaving the remains just... floating there

[dusky hedge]

do you have a way to snap it to anything or is it free placed 'as best you can'

[versed cosmos]

it'll snap to foundations

when i make them in the blueprint designer i place them against a wall

then press h and nudge it around to where i need it

[dusky hedge]

ok, i was thinking if you could locate it over a hole thingy wouldbe ideal

i wish they would make it so you could build a piece of the blueprint and it would line up on that piece

so like if you had a splitter in the bp you could focus on the splitter and it knows you are trying to locate on that and builds the bp around it

by pressing a button or selecting a mode

[versed cosmos]

oh yeah

instead of placing the centre of the blueprint

which can get difficult with big prints

[whole drum]

You can kind of work around this if you are consistent about where you place your input/output connections within

The bps

(Cat stepped on kb)

[dusky hedge]

i dont do enough with bps
but i am pretty fast at building things

[bitter dirge]

In the long term is it better to have smaller factories that produce a base resource like wire, iron plates, iron rods each with their onw dedicated ore deposit?

and then move those more base resources to a secondary larger factory for processing>?

[dusky hedge]

in general its more work

if you reach mega factory stage then youi might revisit the idea

but itwould stil be local

[bitter dirge]

wdym by local?

in my runs befoers generally

i took raw resources and ran that straight to my home base .. and then processed it but i feel like its messy.. but it works well with coal powerstations? otherwise we are running extremely long powerlines and stuff i wasnt able to get to the larger power lines pylons yet though so im not sure how those would work?

[whole drum]

!wikisearch independancy

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independancy

[whole drum]

Check this out

[dusky hedge]

by local i mean in a mega factory( nd im no pro maybe someone else can chime in) you might build a lot of base items to use nearby in separate areas of that factory

[whole drum]

The aim of a megafactory is to ship in all the resources and process them at one location

[dusky hedge]

rather than building several copies of steel pipe floors, you might build thousands in one building and conveyor to another nearby buiilding

[whole drum]

Independancy aims to build individual products you need near the resources that enable you to

[feral jay]

Or just blueprint a factory that builds steel pipes

And then you can quickly plop them anywhere you need them

I have a bunch of blueprints like that: 16X assembler factory, 24X constructor factory, etc, all with everything but inputs/outputs and power hooked up

[dusky hedge]

yeah, as opposed to having one building that makes everything needed for one item
early game it isnt really beneficial when you dont know what you need

[feral jay]

I just need to go in and set the recipes

[bitter dirge]

oo but how do we handle powergrid? would we just be using biomass burners? because the coal powerstations and a full on powergrid distributed throughout the world is that normal?

[whole drum]

You just build power when you need it and connect it to each of the factories

[dusky hedge]

in theend you have about 4 thousand bio burners .. its awesome 🤣

[feral jay]

I have six or seven worldwide powergrids, I'm pretty sure a single one is what most players do

[bitter dirge]

i guess i can try and see what happens lol

[dusky hedge]

its pretty straight forward progression

[whole drum]

If you monitor your power frequently and keep your usage under 70% of your production, a single grid can work just fine.

This may not be the "ideal" way to handle power, but it's a valid one

[bitter dirge]

wouldnt the bigger issue for multiple grids be water? do you just have multiple coal powerstations at different areas water deposists and connect factories to the nearest?>

[whole drum]

You just look at where your resources are relative to other ones. If you want to set up coal power, look for coal near water. If you want Steel, look for coal near iron.

Water is a very easy resource to have/manage as long as you know how to lay pipe properly.

[swift turret]

nah you build them near water

or ship in water which isnt ideal

[whole drum]

Water is the most abundant resource in the game because there are lots of usable bodies of water around the map, including some streams/rivers--but also the oceans where you can place thousands of extractors if you wanted to.

[nova ridge]

so with drones a battery. Is it best to set up a battery producing factory. and with each area i have for drones one port is dedicated to bringing batteries over?

[versed cosmos]

drones can run on any fuel

used to be just batteriess but not anymore

[nova ridge]

oh what

[versed cosmos]

can even burn nuclear fuel in them and it wont generate waste

[nova ridge]

i spent a lot of time on those batteries

[swift turret]

you can still use batteries

[whole drum]

Drones can use other fuels as well, but I usually set up a Fuel Hub that I belt the fuels I use into and make sure not to put a drone on that port. Then at other locations I have a fuel port connected to the other ports nearby, and this fuel port has a drone that retrieves it from the Hub.

[nova ridge]

i see

so drones just use MJ fuel to move

[whole drum]

For the most part

[nova ridge]

so plutonium fuel rod means it might last many trips?

and faster

[swift turret]

thats an expensive drone

[whole drum]

Depending on how far those trips are, yeah

[nova ridge]

i guess less waste is good tho

what do you guys use

rocket fuel? or batteries

[whole drum]

Tfuel or Rfuel, generally

[nova ridge]

i guess batteries are anoying based on what it needs

aluminum

ionized fuel sounds good too

[willow pond]

ok how do i flip the 3rd port on a hypertube branch from one end to the other (not side to side with scroll, that one's easy)

[feral jay]

Isn't it just by pressing E?

[willow pond]

nope

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1463026722634207327

[feral jay]

I don't use them much, they're a bit annoying because there's so many branches you can remember and only so many signs you can read at hypertube speed

Now if you could just not worry about switching at each branch, and instead select a destintation before you jump in, and the branches wouldr route you automatically, THAT would be awesome

[willow pond]

just finding it annoying, this is my first real go with them since 1.0 came out

[feral jay]

Otherwise I just run more tubes

[versed cosmos]

just build a few cannons going to each of your factories lol

[willow pond]

would also love a 90 degree 3 way tube instead of the weird 3x120

[nova ridge]

i thought i had nuclear power down until i realized it gave waste lol

[feral jay]

Build a massive storage facility for it at the edge of the map and get cracking on building a waste processing complex

[versed cosmos]

like youre producing all the way to ficsonium but your ratios arent right so youre accumulating waste?

[feral jay]

I once turned Paradise Island into a nuclear waste dump

[nova ridge]

yeah im almost done. about ot finish nitric acid

[feral jay]

Hey why does showdebug not actually display anything for me any more?

My framerate takes a massive hit, so it's doing the calculations, but the game isn't showing me anything

[willow pond]

still mildly upset that we can figure out nuclear power and warp travel but somehow solar panels are just not possible 🤣

[feral jay]

Wait what? Height as no effect on a radar tower's range?

All this time, I've been dragging power poles up to the plateaus for better range, I thought I was just always hitting the maximum

[quasi warren]

I keep forgetting to use radar towers

[tropic juniper]

if you place them so you over lap with others, you can narrow down where hard drives actually are in small areas.

[feral jay]

I just cheat, and use SCIM for that

Well or the object scanner

[quasi warren]

I just use a mod to help me with that-

[whole drum]

This is deliberate by the devs. One of the themes is the exploitation of the environment, so renewables aren't really a thing (except for nuclear).

[willow pond]

oh i know, just kinda thematically funny to me

[quasi warren]

I use refined power mod to get solar panels

[tropic juniper]

i love "triangulating" where they are. ploppin em down in different areas. makes me feel like a treasure prospector

[whole drum]

Yeah, this ain't BAR, lol

[feral jay]

I coulda sworn at some point in the development of this game, height made a difference

[willow pond]

it did

[quasi warren]

I honestly just use radar towers to show the map and resource nodes i have not tapped

[whole drum]

I guess it's kinda moot when you can just stack 4m foundations indefinitely into the sky

And if they obeyed LOS or something, they would lose a lot of player acceptance due to the reduced functionality

[feral jay]

I do like the look, when you're on a really high point of land, seeing all my towers off in the distance

[whole drum]

Would just make people feel like SCIM was more "required"

[quasi warren]

I only use that to get rid of fiesty platforms stuck completely under terrain

[whole drum]

I don't use it to interact with my saves directly at all. I just use it as a 3rd party atlas.

But the tools are there for those that want them

[quasi warren]

Glass? 16? Sorry- the last word you used reminded me of something

[whole drum]

?

[quasi warren]

Nms

[quasi warren]

Like me when a platform is being spicy with me

[abstract heron]

I am hoping there is a stream today

[opaque wren]

Maybe I am using this wrong but it seems jetpack sucks. Hover seems much bettter in all regards.

You can only use it for limited time until you inevitably fall like a rock from the sky.

[devout river]

hoverpack is way better for sure

[dense violet]

are you using using solid biofuel?

[dense violet]

they are both used for very different things

[opaque wren]

I am using rocket fuel.

[devout river]

liquid biofuel (not solid) gives you the most juice

[devout river]

try liquid biofuel

[dense violet]

wild opinion then, Go use the hover back while traversing the map

if you don't like rocket fuel you're not going to like liquid biofuel

[opaque wren]

This is what I used until now.

Since I unlocked advanced fuel I wanted to give it a go.

[devout river]

liquid biofuel has the longest burn times. you can get some serious height with it

[dense violet]

hove pack is much slower and requires power sockets everywhere

you can sprint slide jump and use your jet pack to maintain momentum

[opaque wren]

yes but you can jsut place power sockets for line 200m in 1 second

[dense violet]

Hover pack = building around a factory
jet pack = mobility between places

[opaque wren]

and then you are perma air as opposed to jumping back and forth from the ground

[dense violet]

and move very slowly and have crap everywhere. This is one of the hottest takes I've ever heard on here

and that is saying something

[near siren]

ugh trucks and tractors suck lol if you have a tractor or truck fully loaded and it drives even close to a unloading station it unloads without stopping at the wrong station :((

[opaque wren]

You are faster with hover when going in straight line.

Only when ascending you are faster with jetpack.

[near siren]

there really needs to be a if you stop here you unload if you dont stop you dont unload

[opaque wren]

Also, if I somehow run out of power range, it has incorpodated "parachute"

[glacial hound]

Trains are so much smarter (than vehicles for deliveries)

[opaque wren]

whereas jetpack you just die

[near siren]

yea they are but way too clunky

[indigo kiln]

I have the sudden urge to make a factory dedicated to the fucking elevator

[dense violet]

try not to have stations right on the path

like trains

[near siren]

yea thats impossible how i have my road system set up

[opaque wren]

Make a paralel line with the station.

Trains only go through stations if they have no other "reasonable" option.

As in, stations that are not in their timetable.

[near siren]

ah trains i have no issues with lol but trucks auto unload at the wrong stations as they drive close to them

[dense violet]

sorry to say but that sounds like a critical design flaw :\

[indigo kiln]

Simple answer is to use trains because they're cooler

[dense violet]

much like having train stations on the main path

[glacial hound]

This is the way

[near siren]

either way il fix it but i was assuming stopping at a station prompts a unload

[whole ermine]

grahh, i accidentally clicked bolted plates in satisfactory modeler and built my factory around it

[dense violet]

just swap the recipe?

[opaque wren]

Yeah, generally speaking you want to have your "main" railways and then an "exit" for each location you have a station.

[glacial hound]

Drones and vehicles are a PITA but so necessary sometimes

[whole ermine]

its diff recipies

[dense violet]

why can't you swap it around?

[whole ermine]

ive already built everything for it

[dense violet]

oh in game?

[whole ermine]

yes

[dense violet]

welp my advice is use a planner that actually shows the recipe names on the layout

[whole ermine]

i dont know why anyone would use bolted plates

its just worse, uses screws and takes more iron

[dense violet]

compact with steel screws. Gooo brrrr

this is 10.6 mod frames pm with bolted plate and bolted frame https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425811234363801732/1425812876182163496/image.png?ex=697014f8&is=696ec378&hm=87f36d5890979714eb4fdd970a807e4035229edfced143a9deb1195e8b18f12f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1163&height=905

[rain hollow]

How do you upload things from the inventory?

[whole ermine]

neat

[dense violet]

barely takes any more iron/screws

[whole ermine]

i guess i can just sap screws from it whenevver i need some for whatever

[opaque wren]

Assuming you are talking about dimensional depo, you open the inventory and drag and drop to depo area. Or press CTRL (default) on the item you want to upload.

[rain hollow]

Console controls

I'm on steam deck

[opaque wren]

There is a channel for consoles, you could try there. (or check keybindings?)

[rain hollow]

Tried checking keybinds, didn't say

[hardy wigeon]

I have to run cable really far and i don't wanna 🙁

[opaque wren]

You can run a railsystem if that is better.

[leaden matrix]

This is the most relatable thing ever </3

If they didnt work as ziplines I would HATE it

[hardy wigeon]

haha actually this is where i had my first train in my beta save

so I will be within a week or so

unless the adhd draws me to another game

oh i got my first mercer sphere

omw home with it

ive kinda kept it spoiler free what happend with them in 1.0

[rain hollow]

Never mind I found out how to upload things from the inventory

Is there a set amount of Mercer spheres or can you make them?

[dense violet]

set but more than enough

[hardy wigeon]

probably like the slugs huh?

[dense violet]

pretty much and shards can be made later

[rain hollow]

How many are there?

[dense violet]

200 or so?

[rain hollow]

Okay that is plenty

[hardy wigeon]

i was disappointed the sphere didn't talk like it did in beta but i like how it interrupted the mam

[cobalt spoke]

Is there any way to rotate hologram on xbox I can't even fund a keybind for it

[white dawn]

300ish actually; you need about 100 to fully upgrade via the MAM, and then you've got about 200 left over for Depots

[dense violet]

mousewheel on pc, it'll be the same way you spin pumps or tilt items I'm sure

[cobalt spoke]

There is no tilt keybind and I don't think I've ever tilted anything

[rain hollow]

Does more uploaders increase how many of an item you can have in the depot or upgrades in the MAM?

[dense violet]

definitely look into the key bindings. or ask in #satisfactory-consoles

[white dawn]

The MAM upgrades can increase the number of stacks you can store (and upload rate) -- having multiple Depots for the same item is how you can go beyond that max upload rate for a material

The max upload goes up to 240/min which is plenty for many resources, but for stuff like concrete you're eventually likely to want a few Depots uploading that since it's so easy to burn through

[cobalt spoke]

Can't find anything in keybinds only left to right no vertical rotation options so rip hypertube

[dusky hedge]

vertical rotation is same as horizontal i thought, just a click apart

[cobalt spoke]

Idk I've been trying for half an hour and it just won't so

[dusky hedge]

can youi adjust vertical rotation by moving the cursor to front and back?

[cobalt spoke]

Oh I'm on console lol

[dusky hedge]

that annoys the crap out ofmw with pipe mounts

centre of screen is cursor

[craggy leaf]

can i retrieve power cells on overclocked machines?

[dusky hedge]

ctrl click

[green fiber]

Or drag out

[whole ermine]

yay

got a truck running up and down the nuclear cave

by the void hole in the grass pits

delivering coal to the void factory for steel

[sterile blade]

You can do that without smart splitters too

[versed cosmos]

ig so

smart splitter feels a lot nicer tho

[sterile blade]

Heh, debatable. I tend to like one belt going into a machine more than many belts, but that might just be me :P

[lapis shadow]

Headlift doesn't stack right? Like the headlift of a pipeline just inherits whatever the headlift of the last machine/pump it was connected to?

[dense violet]

anything that gives headlift resets headlift

[lapis shadow]

I want to start implementing logistics floors to my builds since they seem neat. Those of you that use them, what height has worked best for you? Different needs may require different sizes of course but I imagine you have a go to height

[limpid iron]

I would say you probably want to be able to fit refineries on floors

[lapis shadow]

Logistics floor, a floor dedicated to all logistics: conveyors, pipes, splitters etc; so no machines

[dense violet]

4m is more than enough

[sterile blade]

Height of the logistic floor or the machine floors?

[limpid iron]

ohh ok, in that case I think most people just have enough room for your head

[willow oar]

So I finally done my phase 5 in a hurry after working on lots of things, was at around 300h... and I just realized... last tech are way too easy compared to previous ones... I had to rework a lot my aluminium factory for some nuclear things, and then realized the new things, like mk6 convyer are so much easier to produce that mk5... and most of the last things are... only issue is the crazy amount of space and energy needed... but now I'm a bit lost... I didn't finish my big project... did my gigantic train line between my origin, middle ground storage and north desert factory, but didn't finish the logistics... because the design wasn't that good... I'm a bit lost on what to do now.

[sterile blade]

Challenge your factory skills with some sushi

But yeah, welcome to the endgame

We also have tons of mods, some of which expand on the vanilla gameplay adding or changing milestones

[willow oar]

I need a goal that is useful

[dense violet]

create a world goal built around some mechanics or idea you like

I don't think anything will be 'useful'. Just fun.

[limpid iron]

me personally I like build rail infrastructure 🤑

always fun to setup all of that

[dense violet]

and you could create a goal aroudn crazy trains if you like 🙂

[lapis shadow]

Would pipes become harder to use with a logistics floor? Every logistic floor I've ever seen is below the machines that they feed, so the pipe connected to any input port would be the last to fill in the entire pipe network. Would you have to just raise the pipe above the input port and then snake it back down to avoid that or is typically not a problem?

[dense violet]

well if the input pipes are coming from below? yes

[willow oar]

Well I though a central storage would be useful, as I was totally lost on where things are and my precious storage was a total mess. And only had early things... But in fact was quicker to just put things I needed from origin to desert without going though storage... While I took dozen of hours preparing it... The system with a station is either charge or discharge bothers me...

[dense violet]

central storages were never mechanically useful really. You'd spend more time designing and building it than the time travelling saved
even less now with dim depots

[lapis shadow]

Yes they'd be a lot tougher to use or yes I should do that snake method I mentioned?

[dense violet]

but if you think it'd be fun, do it

[sterile blade]

Assuming you were referring to the height of the "logistic floor", I'd answer that it depends on wether you want an actual floor or just a "crawling space".
Ie: in 4m, you just have space for logistics and will have to either build from above the floor or crawl everywhere; with 6m you can add walkways above most logistics and avoid most crawling; with 8m you can implement some vertical logistics (eg: weaving belts/pipes to leave passages for you or just beauty) and still have plenty of room for personal use, even adding walkways and such; more than 8m can turn a narrow logistic floor into a spacious one and so on...

[dense violet]

if you have input pipes coming from below you're much more likely to have flow problems

[sterile blade]

"Useful" is not objective and follows your own preferences :P
Eg: I find logistic mastery useful, so such an objective to me is both "useful" and fun

[willow oar]

I really hate trains on this game. I made it so the line work (7 trains are running since hours - putting some things elsewhere, even if I don't use it), so I consider it okay (meaning "a bit done"), but i really hated how much a hassle it was to do, and don't really feel like continuing... But it makes sense... But it feels like WORK, not FUN doing that..

[lapis shadow]

Gotcha thanks for the in depth response

[dense violet]

well that was directed to the train person 🙂 but it might be you're building trains in a difficult way. There's definitely quick and simple ways to make tracks and stations

[limpid iron]

you can always take a break from the game, I usually play lots over a few weeks and then don't play for another three and then come back later

[frail grotto]

how do I set up adaptive control units?

[dense violet]

like any other system really 🙂

[frail grotto]

best way?

[willow oar]

What I liked when I run the train line from central storage inside was the landscape ,as really nice there. And never used most of the map... But I don't see what I could build more than feels useful to me

[frail grotto]

most efficient ?

what alt recipes?

[limpid iron]

theres no alts for adaptive control units

[willow oar]

I often play games like that, gonna stop for 3-6 months then come back.

God chance I'll go back to Dyson sphere program at a moment, that was my first factory game

[frail grotto]

no but to make wire, reinforced plates, pipes....