satisfactory

[sullen gull]

Just know it's like 2 stacks /second of items transfer rate

Also, dumb question maybe, but what do you have for fuel?

Though, I guess it doesn't matter as it shouldn't let non fuel items go into the slot ..

[hollow bay]

then I'll set that to 20 seconds

[eager harbor]

My pc gonna die for 500000 structures 😭

[sullen gull]

Also not sure if it matters, but is the station powered? 😛

[hollow bay]

coal. haven't gotten anything better so far

[hollow bay]

they both are yea

[eager harbor]

My pc gonna die because of my world

[hollow bay]

I respawned it at the other station now n it somehow got fixed I don't know how

[sullen gull]

huh, strange. Was going to offer you're welcome to DM your save if on PC and I would try to take a look. Glad to see it sounds like it's working now though.

[hollow bay]

I'm glad as well. don't know how it got fixed tho

[sullen gull]

Fyi, if you like trucks and would like to know fuel effectiveness, there is a good chart here: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Truck

[eager harbor]

I regret building this much

[sullen gull]

(Also for other things as well)

[hollow bay]

thanks a lot but I'll mostly use trains once I unlocked em

[eager harbor]

Trains also need trucks

Trains not enough trust

[hollow bay]

I said mostly I never said I'm only gonna use trains

[sullen gull]

What they stated is not correct anyhow. 🤷‍♂️

[hollow bay]

I'm aware of that but mostly train doesn't mean trains only. course I'll also be using trucks n drones

[eager harbor]

U do need trucks -_- trucks are goated

[hard stump]

Is there a way to not have every damm wall and foundation such colors when you edit a switch. Someone joined my world last night and edited colors not EVERYTHING IS one fing color and I can change EVERYTHING to any color but can’t leave them alone and I’m about to be done if that’s the case

[spare cradle]

I think 46 mercer spheres is a good haul

[spare cradle]

Maybe make that world a solo one if that's the issue

[alpine pier]

Any architect for hire?

[sullen gull]

If they are set to the Ficist Project Assembly swatch, you are kind of stuck. You would have to recolor with another swatch or the custom swatch. (If I am understanding correctly)

[alpine pier]

I would suggest using the custom swatch. Save the Colors you want you can set it to default and it won’t change what’s already built

[alpine pier]

Basically every ficsit swatches updates the color on applied builds. Where as custom won’t auto update

Simple as that

[hard stump]

It’s a custom switch yes but just logged on and noticed that now I’m just at a point of F it I’m about to just be done cuz that’s ridiculous that I’d have to spend hours manually revering things back as it likely take days

[sullen gull]

In the future, if you want to color something, and not have it affected when the colors for any of the swatches are changed, you'd want to use the custom satch, and utilize the Color presets.

[hard stump]

it is a custom switch auto updated

[alpine pier]

Nope

It stays to the applied colour

[sullen gull]

Also, right click on your swatches and see if any are "set" to certain things.

[hard stump]

Haven’t ever touched them a friend did last night and I haven’t touched them for this entire reason

Nope none are set to anything

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[eager harbor]

Noobies

[hard stump]

Already said nothing was set to anything

[eager harbor]

Meow

[vagrant oar]

rawr

[sullen gull]

Yeah, was already in the process of replying and didn't see that until it was too late :P. My bad

[hollow bay]

is there any good ratio as to how much steel I should into steel beams n how much into steel pipes?

[hard stump]

All good just fing pissed off cuz that’s fing stupid there’s no way to refer this other then going back like 100 hours now in saves

[whole drum]

Depends what you need them for, but if it's your first Steel build, I go slightly heavier on the Pipes because I'll use more of them right away. My 2nd Steel build does the opposite as I need them for Encased Beams

[sullen gull]

Just so I am understanding correctly, the person that joined your world coloured everything and you are wanting to UNDO it? Or keep it?

[hollow bay]

I'm getting 240 steel pipes/minute n only 15 beams/minute

[eager harbor]

MEOW

[hard stump]

Undo it but none were on a set switch color now the ENTIRE world is as I never used them I would just manually go in and color everything to avoid this exact issue

Like why the heck is there not a option to remove it and not have things be forced to a switch color

[late pumice]

Oh i just LOVE chicken

[whole drum]

Did they manually paint everything, or just edit your swatches?

[hard stump]

Messed with the switched so now the only thing I can do is to manually change everything colors and I’m not about to spend days doing that crap rather just say f it and make a new game but at that point I’m taking a break from this game cuz that’s insane amount of hours for this to happen now and there’s no way to reverse the crap

[sullen gull]

Not sure if you're on PC, but I am looking to see if there may be a way to "fix it" through SCIM....

[hard stump]

Nope Xbox

[sullen gull]

Doh

[hard stump]

Like how the heck is there no way to revert this crap that’s sooo stupid

[whole drum]

If all they did was edit the swatches, that's easier to fix because you just edit them back.

[sullen gull]

I feel like someone went through with the custom swatch and manually coloured everything?

[hard stump]

And then I’m stuck with the exact same issue EVERYTHING IS STILL THE SAME COLOR just changed the color

[sullen gull]

Can you make a #1038092680493801533 and show some screenshots? (or #design-and-architecture should be fine as well)

[zenith shard]

how do you get to phase 2 asdfasdfasdf

[sullen gull]

Or did they go and change all the colors in the swatches as well?

[hard stump]

All the screenshot would show is world and anything being the same color don’t know what the point is.
I’m seconds away from deleting also even on switch 7 not even the first one for some stupid reason

[sullen gull]

Space elevator...?

[zenith shard]

yeah....

1000 smart plating ;_;

[hard stump]

No it’s just 1 switch is doing the entire world hub belts walls foundations pipes anything that can be painted has been painted

[sullen gull]

As well as Versatile Frameworks, and Automated Wiring ...

[zenith shard]

omg...

[white dawn]

1000 sounds like a lot, though if you automated the Smart Plating for Phase 1, you can usually just let that one machine sit there producing Smart Plates for the whole time you're working through the rest of the phase. It's quite likely it'll be done with the 1000 Smart Platings long before you're ready to do the rest of the deliveries

Even a slow amount of production adds up over time

[zenith shard]

idk about that, I don't believe in compound interest

[white dawn]

Good thing this doesn't involve compound interest, then! :D

Just simple addition. 1+1+1+1+... == 1000, over large enough timescales

[zenith shard]

I hope its gonna be much much simpler at phase 3

[lyric basalt]

This entire time I didnt know there was rocket fuel

[sullen gull]

Got one more too 😛

[white dawn]

I've got some bad news about the ways in which automation games progress as you unlock things. :)

[lyric basalt]

I just demolished my entire map so I could make better factories with tier 6 belts and shtuff so honestly finding this out couldnt have happened at better time

[hollow bay]

btw has anyone got any tips for not installing mods that break the game progression? cos this is already my 3rd save game n I don’t want to corrupt this with progression breaking mods as well
edit: I‘m not new to the game so I know a lot but I just recently got it

[sullen gull]

Are you referring to achievements? Or mods that put new items in MAM/Milestones?

[weary kestrel]

Me who didnt think about automating it until far too late in phase 2 and ended up spending a few hours just exploring and waiting for the assemblers to churn 🤣

[hollow bay]

mods as in progressing getting through the phases way faster than I‘m supposed to such as a dupe mod

[zenith shard]

I really need to learn about floors

[eager harbor]

😂

[sullen gull]

Stay away from things like Satisfactory+ and any "tweaking" mods imo. My usual "go-to" now are Infinite Zoop/Nudge, Curve builder, SkyUI, and Pakutils for faster flight in creative saves. I do also have some "architectural" additions, but haven't been able to bring myself to actually use them a ton (Except Emissive beams in Structural Solutions, those are awesome). BUT, there is also a Discord server for the modding community. So, you may get a better answer there.

[sullen gull]

Buy all the things under "Management" in the Awesome shop imo 😏

[hollow bay]

I‘ve already got infinite nudge installed. haven’t gotten any other tho but I‘ll make sure to get em. thanks for your help really appreciate it

[weary kestrel]

I started off turning up my nose at it, and then I'm like
Ooh concrete foundations
Ooh conveyor walls
Ooh lift floors

[tranquil zinc]

so there are 3 quartz nodes in the desert but under a cave. How did you all deal with this? Just conveyer them up to ground level?

[sullen gull]

Wrong one...

[sullen gull]

Correct one: #screenshots message

[tranquil zinc]

so process on site then train them to outside the cave?

[sullen gull]

Made a blueprint with autoconnect, some pipes and belts to bring water/limestone. Won't win any beatuy contests, but it worked lol

[tranquil zinc]

was thinking of just using a vertical lift and just clipping above ground

[hard stump]

Oh fun even the question section is bugged for me add tags and then auto delete tags I give up on this world

[sullen gull]

That's what I did. Totally up to you though.

[tranquil zinc]

or since its near the water entrance, might as well conveyer out then use pure quartz recipe

[spare cradle]

How far do y'all think a parachute goes from the tallest cliff?

[tranquil zinc]

will try both and see which looks better

[sullen gull]

Could do that too lol

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I just brought water down into it under the rail.

And, not sure how far you are or involved in trains, but you could essentially have a rail go all the way through as well. (There are two entrances wide enough)

[spare cradle]

I swear if I go through these 13 hard drives and DONT get diluted fuel, I'm gonna be a lil mad

[sullen gull]

Heh, there is always the "save before" method if you reeeeally want it 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

Dont you hate it when you also dont get limestone recipes? Makes me so MAD I swear!

[sinful goblet]

Is there any way to use a grid somehow? i want every floor to look exactly the same, I havent got blueprints yet

[spare cradle]

I was pinged here by Impure for something

[unkempt blade]

that was me - #off-topic-media didn't like my mr rogers video 🙁

[spare cradle]

Ohh

Huh

No wonder I went there and there was nothing

[unkempt blade]

I wanted you to know what to do with that mad you feel when that drive you unlock isn't quite right

[spare cradle]

Ooooo just found diluted

... But fine concrete

[scenic mirage]

is it normal that my nuclear plants have smoke coming out of it even tho its not connected towater?

[unkempt blade]

crisis averted! you don't need Mr Rogers and his great wisdom I guess

[spare cradle]

Is it supposed to be packaged?

[unkempt blade]

there's a packaged version and a blender version

you can get packaged earlier in the game

[spare cradle]

... Problem then that I don't have blender since I am not past phase 3

[scenic mirage]

i skipped packaged diluted completely

[sullen gull]

The packaged one is for refineries

[unkempt blade]

packaged diluted is just as good as far as resource efficiency goes and it's really not difficult as a blueprint

[spare cradle]

Better then blender?

[unkempt blade]

same, not better

[spare cradle]

oh, good

[scenic mirage]

better bc you dont have to deal w the packaging 😉

[spare cradle]

Im probably off to make a blueprint for diluted then

[spare cradle]

Counterpoint, just reuse the packaging

[unkempt blade]

the blueprint deals with it for you if you make it right 😄

[sullen gull]

Also, if you weren't aware, you can "preload" the blueprint with packages as well

[spare cradle]

Nice

[undone citrus]

I want fishing in game

[spare cradle]

I am though going to need to rethink how my turbofuel is going to go bc of the alt

Bc it takes heavy oil and water to fuel

I currently have crude oil to fuel

(I mean, in the plans)

[scenic mirage]

still an extra step

i completely skipped packaged and im fine

[sour sparrow]

my game keeps on crashing my whole computer...

[zealous urchin]

can someone show me big and complex train roundabout? like two lines with ups and downs

[spare cradle]

That is your game. I'm fine with going through my current recipe for it

[sullen gull]

Go to %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\Crashes , Check latest folder(s), look for FactoryGame.log. Scroll to the bottom to find reason for crashes.

[unreal sierra]

Should i choose Steel rods or rescan my hard drive?

[sullen gull]

On really "one" extra "step" of creating the bluprint. (Which one should do for a blender as well imo). Otherwise, pretty similar

[sullen gull]

You can just leave it in the list to prevent it from coming up on future scans

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ up to you but once you unlock blenders you dont need packagers

[unkempt blade]

recipe variety makes the game interesting

[sullen gull]

Tbf, I will admit I was saying the exact same when I first started 🤣

[unkempt blade]

I used leached iron once... and I'm fine?

[unreal sierra]

It Also means i can divert all my ingots to steel and plates

[unkempt blade]

sorry something about the "and I'm fine" was just really funny to me 😆

[sullen gull]

Erm ... Idk I liked leeched iron

[unkempt blade]

it was like he survived a natural disaster by waiting for the blender version

[eager harbor]

Phase 4 killing me

[sullen gull]

You will find that you will want to "re-build" and "re-divert" lot though.

[near siren]

im thinking that right now #screenshots

[sour sparrow]

theres no saves folder

[unreal sierra]

Yeah im already planning on remaking my factory after phase one to make it more neat

[spare cradle]

With the heavy oil residue and the diluted fuel...

Dat a whole lotta fuel.

[sullen gull]

Press Win+R and Copy paste the "directory" and paste it. Don't put C: before it.

[sour sparrow]

okko

[unreal sierra]

Which i have already completed phase 1 im just going through the ficmas event

[near siren]

tbh make do with what you can as the upgrades come thick and fast lol especially belts

i built on phase 1 only to have to rebuild for phase 2 and 3 lol

[unkempt blade]

organizing gets easier too as you get more research and awesome shop stuff unlocked

[spare cradle]

I can double my fuel output though dilution

[sullen gull]

And it's a really large world, so you can always move elsewhere and build and leave the "old" stuff producing 😏

[sour sparrow]

it says a whole lotta nothing 😢

[spare cradle]

[spare cradle]

Lemme help

[near siren]

yea i love this lake area though everything i need is here

[spare cradle]

Take a screenshot through the photo mode

[sullen gull]

They are looking at crash logs

[spare cradle]

ooooooooh

ok, thought it was something else

[sullen gull]

At the very bottom of that log, there should be an error of why it crashed. Ignore all the other gibberish

[sour sparrow]

the file u sent me doesnt exist

i did the win+r thing and it didnt shwo me anythign so i hit browse instead

and there was a "savedgames" thingy so i went in that and found config>crashreportclient

and that has nothing

[sullen gull]

So, the folder is normally a "hidden" folder on windows. Like, on mine, the actual path is: C:\Users\denki\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Crashes

The AppData folder is the one that is usually hidden.

On yours, denki will be your username.

[reef basin]

or just %localappdata%

[scenic mirage]

open file explorer and click the top button that says "View" then in "Show/Hide" click on "Hidden Items"

[sullen gull]

Yeah, tried that. There is a bit of a dissconnect.

[sour sparrow]

trying all taht now

[reef basin]

?

[sullen gull]

If you read back, I attempted to explain it initially using the %localappdata%

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

why do they have smoke coming out of them? they dont have water connected yet

[fluid crow]

Is that not supposed to be steam?

[sour sparrow]

sigh..... theres no crash folder

[scenic mirage]

do you not understand what i mean when i say smoke?

[sour sparrow]

it has like.. everything except that

[fluid crow]

press win key and start typing reliability monitor see what that says

[sullen gull]

Unless you're on Epic and it's different? (Didn't think it was) 🤷‍♂️ But also can't see what you see 🙂

[sour sparrow]

im on steam

[undone citrus]

Steam

I call it water vapor

[sullen gull]

What folders do you see in whatever folder you're looking at now?. Also, if you can, make a thread in #1038092680493801533 and post some screen shots (Win+Shift+S) and then paste (CTRL+V) into the thread.

[sour sparrow]

in saved

cache, congifg, debugui, logs, savegames, screenshots, factorygame_something something

[sullen gull]

Not sure what to say honestly. Typically, if/when the game crashes, it creates a new folder in a "Crashes" folder with the pertinent info. : #screenshots message

[sour sparrow]

😢😢

o

[sullen gull]

When you say this, are you saying windows is crashing and you have to restart the computer?

[sour sparrow]

it makes the computer restart

[sullen gull]

Mmk, mostly likely not satisfactory then. The game never gets a chance to "crash". I'd say could be memory, thermal, drivers, etc 🤷‍♂️

Any other games do it?

[sour sparrow]

um

no just satisfactory...

[fluid crow]

"event viewer" "reliability monitor "

[rugged fiber]

Dual monitors FTW play the game and watch chat lol

[fluid crow]

I been remolding my factory for days 😟

[rugged fiber]

That is why your are the BOSS

[sullen gull]

Same with this RF plant 😭

[fluid crow]

😬

[rugged fiber]

Rocket Fuel? have not tried that one yet

[fluid crow]

and after this it's a new oil plant

[weary kestrel]

Anyone happen to have a layout for turning 1 250% pure crude oil into ⚡ power?
I have absolutely zero idea on how the ratios are going to pan out

[unkempt blade]

yeah but you're amazing and talented and I believe you're able to figure it out

[sullen gull]

Just doing it for funsies at this point 😏 #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Fuel, turbo fuel, or rocket fuel?

[rugged fiber]

JEEZ OCD much lol that is one wild layout

[weary kestrel]

Y'know that's a fantastic question, I think I need to get out the pen and paper for this logistical nightmare

[sullen gull]

1250 oil can net you 3333.33 of RF

Using diluted fuel and turbo blend alts.

[weary kestrel]

I think turbo fuel is straight forward enough, just needs compacted coal, which is sulfur + coal, all of which I have approximately in vicinity in blue crater

I'm trying to avoid just straight up ripping a blueprint from satis calc, as that feels too easy, but definitely not a rocket engineer to actually figure it out 🤣

[sullen gull]

You can always drone nitro gen. There is a resource well not far with 1900/min iirc? or somthing l can't recall .

[unkempt blade]

it's just rows, let's not get crazy with the diagnoses 🤣

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[weary kestrel]

Not yet at phase... 4? I think it'd be

[sullen gull]

Ohhhhhhhh .... no, sorry, it comes later.

[weary kestrel]

that's a beauty, I swear you have a video for every question 🤣

[rugged fiber]

but it is an even curve THAT takes DEDICATION lol

[sullen gull]

Could build a dilutued > TF plant that would get you pretty far, if not to the end 🤷‍♂️. Guess it all depends if you're the type to make 5 of an item or 500/min 🤣

[sullen gull]

I curves are mainly a mod at this point. So, "simpler" than it may appear

[weary kestrel]

diluted is tier 7 alas, no blender

[sullen gull]

You can still do packaged diluted

[ornate saffron]

did that last night.

it is.... not compate lol

but i have 23000MW of power

[dense violet]

diluted is also tier 3

[white dawn]

s/tier/phase/

[sullen gull]

Tier 5, phase 3 😛

[proper anvil]

is there a way to adjust building clock speed on satisfactorytools?

[dense violet]

it does it for you already

[white dawn]

sftools just gives you the total clock that needs to be present; you can divide it up however you like

[dense violet]

4.52 machines is 452% spread how you like it

[proper anvil]

yeah i get that but no way to default to 200% for example?

[sullen gull]

No. Hence why I like Modler. Allows for such customizations

[glass pagoda]

Hello

[dense violet]

if you want to set 4.52 machines to 200% you just have 2x200% and 1 at 52%....

decide how many machines you want to do it with, then divide.

[scenic mirage]

modeler is so fire 🔥

[ornate saffron]

I just use tools and spreadsheets lol

[scenic mirage]

tomorrow is the day i get my nuclear running 🥳

[ornate saffron]

lol went back to mmy power plant to find a single short conveyor belt at a slow speed holding up production

classic factory

[scenic mirage]

always the worst, when its hidden inside a splitter or smth

#screenshots message

[stone moth]

Lucky you dont have school 🥀

[hallow crow]

what is goodie

[scenic mirage]

😂 i have a job

[ornate saffron]

work school social responsibilities. they all hinder the factory

[hallow crow]

lol

[stone moth]

Indeed, the factory must grow

[feral jay]

The factory must grow

[spare cradle]

I now have... a blueprint to convert heavy oil and water to fuel, with the heavy oil residue recipe from the refinery itself making less oil extractors and pipes needed but with more water needed.

[stone moth]

I may or may not have purchased all the parts need for my next phase from the awesome shop because i didnt want to automate anything

then i realized after i spent over 500 tickets, i made a miscalculation, and i only needed to spend 300 tickets

😭

[near siren]

i need some advice 😄 i have input going around in a circuit to storage and in some cases i have x2 of some types of goods yet my over flow storage get filled by goods that could have gone into the primary storage is there a way to make sure the enchanced splitter`s actually send the goods to the right storage? instead of going to their overflow storage?

[stone moth]

You can use the smart spiltter or programmable splitter to sort

[near siren]

yea i am using the smart splitters but i have for example cement on the left and over flow on the front but cement goes through the front

[scenic mirage]

try and replace the conveyor

[near siren]

is there a way to make sure the cement goes to the left?

[near siren]

thats alot of belts to replace lmao

[scenic mirage]

just the one going into the smart splitter

[sullen gull]

If it's going through to overfllow, its due to the belt on the left being full.

[near siren]

weird as the storage is empty

[sullen gull]

so, faster belt maybe,

[near siren]

i have G4 belts

[dusky hedge]

might be a belt not connected properly

[stone moth]

Send screenshot to #screenshots , and then send the link to the screenshot here

[near siren]

hmmm il go though the thousand belts and see what i can do haha

[ornate saffron]

yup, just did that myself

[near siren]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057

[near siren]

done

[stone moth]

Can i see the splitter settings and the belts and container near it

[stray summit]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h4vG2IftomA

[near siren]

i must hav like 50 ish storage

[sullen gull]

Are you sure you have the correct Left and right? 🙂

Ie, not looking at it from the front instead of from the input side 🤣

[near siren]

my bad 😄

[scenic mirage]

how does this relate to satisfactory?

[near siren]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057

[stone moth]

just finished phase 2

[near siren]

sent again @stone moth

[stone moth]

Do both of the overflow sides have conveyers?

[stray summit]

it doesnt but i felt like making yall lose your charisma

[near siren]

its weird as some gets in the storage but the majority goes into the overflow storage

[scenic mirage]

?? how old are you

[near siren]

no left and front only

[stray summit]

and why would you need that

[sullen gull]

Then switch one to none

[stray summit]

its just a damn video not that big of a deal

[scenic mirage]

lmfao its smth a mf in middle school would send 😭 just funny

[scenic mirage]

yeah but thats not what this channel is for, is it?

[sullen gull]

It is a 13+ server ...

[dense violet]

... isn't discord 13+?

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media exists for a reason

[stray summit]

not as popular

[sullen gull]

Not not every server allows users under a certain age. But yes.

[scenic mirage]

anyone can say theyre 13 tho, someone could say theyre 25 but theyre 11 and someone can say theyre 11 when theyre 25

[dense violet]

huh I thought discord itself just had a 13+ policy of use

[somber yarrow]

hi im in need of some ingame tips ive been playing this game for a bit now and i use this mod called supper alternitive recepies that make like 10 iteam at once and my problem is i get all backed up and not sure how to keep things flowing lol any tips will be great

[stone moth]

Its why we have it and you are supposed to post off topic stuff there

[leaden turret]

popularity of a channel is not a relevant factor in following the #rules, is why people get annoyed when people make LFG posts in here instead of #1201555265942724758

[dense violet]

you need more belts if you have more throughput

I highly recommend you get through the tiers first before modding things so you can learn the basics

[stray summit]

video > monitor > computer > computerparts > factory > satisfactory

lol

[golden nexus]

Don't recommend the mods, many are broken / do unrealistic things which will cause problems with poor design / gameplay. You should try the normal game if you want to get good at it

[dense violet]

I mean mods are fine, but you really should get through the game to know how to manage things

someone who had the basics would know you need to manage belts to your throughput.

if you needed 1 belt for a system and then made it make 10x as much, you'll need 10x the belt throughput

[stone moth]

Whats better, liquid biofuel or fuel

[dense violet]

for?

[stray summit]

edible dark matter 😄
(fr tho its biofuel)

[golden nexus]

Not when its an alternative for all vanillia recipie which does 10x the normal output. So of course its going to have these problems........

[dense violet]

I mean if you know what you're doing that's easily manageble

[golden nexus]

Well yes, But if you don't know what your doing its just game breaking

[dense violet]

just plan for 10x the throughput

[golden nexus]

Which you can't actually do on mk1-2 belts right?

[proper folio]

Are trains/fright platform meant to just move stacks or autofill any empty space into the train?

[near siren]

well il give it a min and see what happens thanks for the tips @stone moth

[dense violet]

oh exactly, thats why I mention 'get through the game first to get those basics'

[dense violet]

if it's for the jet pack, check out the wiki page on jetpacks, has details

[dense violet]

well they shift everything it cans into the cars?

[stone moth]

If i want to build a factory using oil, should i build in the gold coast or the purple place

[dense violet]

there's a 27 second loading time

[dense violet]

both are fine? depends how you like to build thigns and what else you want to build there

[scenic mirage]

i think as far away from the closest oil nodes as you can possibly get

[golden nexus]

yes, or build it wherever by moving the oil with a train!!

[proper folio]

Not all of it…my train isn’t taking all the resources until it’s full full. If it’s holding a stack that’s incomplete it won’t ever fill it

[scenic mirage]

and build it really high up to make it super easy to avoid all the terrain

[stone moth]

I dont have trains unlocked

[dense violet]

that's why I said 'everything it can' , train cars don't hold as much as a platform

maybe it is just stacks? would make sense since it moves a box

[proper folio]

I know that but I always end up with half a stack of resources missing whenever it has more than enough to fill the train completely

[dense violet]

if you're getting the throughput your delivery point needs it doesn't really matter does it?

[fickle locust]

There's some weird behavior involving how the trains take from the top down and leave a "hole" in the inventory of the platform. I've seen the same thing with trains set to wait until fully loaded: they wait until the platform inventory reaches 3,100 and then start pulling
So I have a lot of trains rolling around with 3,124 resources onboard or whatever

[twin forge]

Can we all agree satisfactory is like avatar

[dense violet]

because there's metal benders?

[proper folio]

For my setup I’ve based it around the avg amount of resources it takes per min which is 544 so I round down to 540 but the second cart it’s missing half a stack which causes me to take out a smelter to maintain consistency

[dense violet]

does each car have it's own belt feeding it or are you just overflowing to it?
also are you buffering your train stations?

[proper folio]

Each one has a buffer but if the first platform is getting too much I push the overflow into the next one along with its own feed. Then when it goes to the next station same thing but also accounting for the amount it’s getting at the station before it

[dense violet]

ok overhead images in #math-and-meta of your stations and belts pls

[stone moth]

Is gold coast east or west

from the first starting biome

[leaden turret]

the last airbender or the last thing james cameron is gonna make cos he's jelly of marvel?

[ornate saffron]

im unfamiliar with that nick name

[leaden turret]

it's what people wrongly call beach islands

[ornate saffron]

so the west coast?

[leaden turret]

probably

[proper folio]

Sent them

Are they good enough or you need better ones

[coral marsh]

Curious as to why PCC's need a radio control unit. Fused modular frames make sense but why, a radio

[grim carbon]

i have a personal storage box with Ficsmas christmas cartridges in it

what can i do with them?

I can't send them to the sink, i know cos i've tried already

[coral marsh]

I hate that they cant be deleted

[grim carbon]

can i blow it up with nobelisks?

[coral marsh]

You may be able to delete them via leaving the world's boundary

Load up your inventory and launch yourself at Mach 5 past the world border

[grim carbon]

i'm nowhere near the edge

[coral marsh]

Hypertube cannons

[grim carbon]

i don't have jetpacks or anything else to fly with

[coral marsh]

Looks like you'll have to find the edge of the map

[fluid crow]

did you try flushing it down the toilet?

[feral jay]

Sweet, I just passed 500k coupon points/min

[coral marsh]

Nice

If you wanna hit 2 million or more, use Ficsit trigons

[whole drum]

Sweet, only 247 hours until the Golden Nut

[feral jay]

With this "no machine can ever idle" challenge, I'm finding that points/min is a surprisingly good benchmark

[grim carbon]

no i haven't

[feral jay]

Because everything has to be sunk

[coral marsh]

Use ficsit trigons to achieve 2m points per minute

[feral jay]

I'll get there...

Took me the better part of a week to liberate the spire coast, build an outpost, and then a computer factory

[grim carbon]

you can only flush one cartridge down the toilet at a tme

[whole drum]

The power needs for the challenge are quite a bit higher than usual play, but it is definitely rewarding in those tickets. Also, it incentivizes using extra resources that normally just get stored.

[ornate saffron]

put them all in a truck and drive it off the map

[feral jay]

It's the forward planning that's difficult with this challenge

[grim carbon]

i could also just leave them in the storage they are in right now too

[feral jay]

And sometimes it takes a veeery long time for factories to fully spool up and hit 100%

[fluid crow]

maybe you could drive them off the map in factory carts

[whole drum]

Take that giant pit in the Grasslands and build a Tower of Babel that spirals upward to the sky limit, but with a hole at the top for you to sacrifice karts into that goes all the way back down.

[dusky hedge]

how do you test to ensure nothing is idle, and is there a minimum level of item you are allowed to sink?

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="grass fields crater" AND tower

[near siren]

what grade is the high speed connector?

[whole drum]

One way you can test if by using a mod that lets you see your overall production and compare your P:C numbers.

[near siren]

as i dont see its ingredients or place of construction im guessing i have not unlocked the requirments for them yet

[whole drum]

Similar, but not quite what I had in mind. Very cool tho.

[dense violet]

if it's in your codex, that seems likely. You can always get spoilers from the wiki though

[ornate saffron]

my general rule of thumb is if it isnt something refined or if it is radio active it cant be sunk. think animal parts and uranium

[whole drum]

It comes form MAM research, not milestones

[near siren]

yea its all good i think it should mention though you have not unlocked this yet

[leaden turret]

could replace these crosswalks with a death spiral https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="grass+fields+crater"+AND+author%3A932928f2-a7a5-48f1-852f-69247942c19b

[near siren]

ohhh

so its unlockable from another tree

[cunning glade]

i feel like im gonna go insane i check my math its right but also wrong

[whole drum]

This is why you have to carry the 2

[dusky hedge]

so whats the challenge if you can just sink everything after refining it?

[whole drum]

Yeah. Not to spoil too much, but at least have you looking in the right place lol

[dense violet]

I mean if it's not in your codex that's it telling you it's not unlocked right?

[whole drum]

Probably not as much of a "challenge" as "self-imposed ruleset"

[dusky hedge]

sounds like it would be interesting if you had a minimum level of item, like anything made in a manufacturer and above can bs sunk

or like t7 items

[cunning glade]

im making 7600 plastic a min i took the 3000 out im supposed too have gained but then i dont have enough for the 6450 rubber

[near siren]

yea im at the point now where i have so many resources im just unlocking everything now

[whole drum]

Yeah, that part feels good 🙂

[cunning glade]

im def doing something wrong im somehow too blind too see it

[ornate saffron]

sinking isnt part of the challenge. its a tool in the kit. for example oil by products have to be delt with. even hafter you make plastic and rubber out of them if you dont have a sink for the nonstop flow your refineries shut down

[whole drum]

I'd post about it in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots and your math so far

[zenith sage]

I thought I wouldn't find a use for splitters and mergers in the middle of conveyor lifts, boy was I wrong

[ornate saffron]

much uses

[dusky hedge]

thats kind of why it makes sense to have a minimum level of item that is allowed to be sunk, so you have to ues all your factories efficiently, but obviously you have to sink the final products in a chain or it all backs up. reducing the difficulty to something practical would be lowering the level of item that can be sunk, eg., choosing to be allowed to sink all processed items unlocked at t4 or above would be much easier than anything above t8

or choosing things that require 2 or more items or things that require 3 would be a massive increase in difficulty

[ornate saffron]

odd graphical glitch #screenshots

[cunning glade]

See but like my math is right

I'm just some how fucking up the outputs ig

[whole drum]

Check your output belt tiers

[cunning glade]

thats not the issue i dont have it running yet

and im only making 10200 rubber which is what i should be making

I have 4600 plastic going towards the rubber yet I don't have enough belts when I connect it all

So idk where I went wrong but obviously somewhere

[vernal grail]

What's your production chain and how much rubber are you going for?

[cunning glade]

I have 4 720 belts and 3 480 belts and then a 320 belt

[vernal grail]

no, what recipes are you using?

[ornate saffron]

i have spent many sessions smashing my head against a problem to find a obvious solution in this game. sometiems its best to walk away and come back later

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=hKPH29rM321DpFGcIGVQ

I did

I just got back from working 10 hours

I discovered this before I left thought I had it figured out when I left i guess not

[vernal grail]

my thought process might be fluid issues since you're using crude oil. Are you at crater lake?

[ornate saffron]

i souldnt say tackling this after a ten hour work shift is taking a break lol. I should know i do the exact same thing. I go and work and do 10-12 hours of physical labour and math then come home to smash my head agaisnt this lol

[cunning glade]

My issue is I'm somehow not having enough outputs

I have about 13 refineries at the end that u somehow don't have enough rubber for

Well it's more like 5

[cunning glade]

That's fair except for it was a slow day and work isn't particularly draining sometimes idk if that's the right word idk

[ornate saffron]

fair. ^_^. Im a warehouse inventory manager... then i come home and play this lol

[cunning glade]

Ah lol

Okay I'm gonna check my math for like the 3rd time

I've gotta be feeding too much rubber into somewhere

[ornate saffron]

silly question as im sure youve done this already..... but have you deleted all your output belts and replaced them ?

[drowsy kelp]

#screenshots message is there something there or is it just… a random patch of rock

[ornate saffron]

error cannot find screenshot

[zenith sage]

I wonder how does it still connect just fine... #screenshots message

[drowsy kelp]

What…? It’s your screenshot

[ornate saffron]

Praise the Machine God

[cunning glade]

Oh God I think I found another issue

I'll be back

Nvm

[cunning glade]

Yes but I can do it again

Very tempted too just sloop it

[ornate saffron]

temptation is real

[cunning glade]

I think I'm just gonna go insane

[stone moth]

With my steel production, should i have a smart splitter on the ingots so that when my pipes or beams inevitabally fill up, it starts making the other one, (pipes would start making beams, beams would start making pipes)?

[cunning glade]

Hmm

[ornate saffron]

generally speaking smart splitters are not needed in a manifold. if your total inopput of materials matchs your requirments itll naturally overflow into the next machine as the first one fills

[near siren]

well i decided to go exploring lol felt like master cheif with all the guns and jet pack fuel lmao but got wrecked by one giant bug

[ornate saffron]

ya they are dicks. float a platform and stand on tit and taking it out like a camper

[near siren]

yea i feel like i need night vision lmao

[cunning glade]

I just wanna scream actually I just want the numbers too work

[ornate saffron]

with lumen off its easier to see at night.

[zenith sage]

The spiders are nightmare fuel for me...

[ornate saffron]

i have cat mode on.

[near siren]

ikr its harder when it dark lmao

[zenith sage]

I need to see what it actually looks like hah

[zenith sage]

I swear those buggers spawn way more at night too

[stone moth]

Im not doing a manafold, i have 2 separete foundries, each hooked up to their own iron ore deposit, and the pure coal splits only twice, i use overclocking make it run at peak efficiency, same with when making pipes or beams, but when my storage fills up, (we will use pipes for the example) pipes will stop being made, so then the ingots are just sitting there, not being used (not very efficient i know), so i was wondering if inbetween the foundry and the constructor if i should have it so when my pipe storage fills up, it uses the unused ingots and puts them to use

[leaden turret]

that's correct

[cunning glade]

I just don't understand

[near siren]

yea they do i noticed they spawn at night and when morning comes they bugger off 😄

[dense violet]

if you use a smart splitter for over flow you're doing a manifold since you're not load balancing

Basically anything that isn't explicitely a load balancer, is a manifold

[ornate saffron]

sloop move on revisit on a better day

[near siren]

#screenshots

[stone moth]

But the load is balanced, but if a storage fills up, then the constructor will fill up and stop making pipes

[cunning glade]

No I gotta figure this shit out

[whole drum]

Yeah, even sushi belts are just manifold with extra steps

[cunning glade]

On paper my numbers are right

[dense violet]

and stops being load balanced.

[stone moth]

Should i make it so the ingots overflow into another constructor to make beams if my pipes fill up

[dense violet]

if you want ?

[cunning glade]

I can't be wasting sloops on simple shit like this

[dense violet]

generally if people are load balancing though they sink outputs so it statys load balanced

[cunning glade]

I make the 4600 plastic I need

[dense violet]

basically no reasone to load balance if you don't want continous production

[cunning glade]

It just vanishes tho cuz idk rn

[stone moth]

Yeah but i have no need for tickets, i already have basically infinite

[dense violet]

Ok? if you want ot over flow, over flow

it is a sand box game after all 🙂

[vernal grail]

ill be home in abt 30 minutes. if ur still having issues, id be available to join ur world to take a look at it myself, if thats something youd be interested in

[zenith sage]

It's annoying me how those aren't the same size...
#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

I'd be down can also VC call

[ornate saffron]

yup alignment is off

[cunning glade]

Cuz I'm prolly gonna take a dab and then eat a tad

[ornate saffron]

i just dabbed, now chili

[cunning glade]

I wanna but I'm afraid that will make solving this worse

I'm so close too having this plant done

[zenith sage]

I'd have to cut down constructors and assemblers by one to make it the same... but manufacturers would never match anyway

Meh, they won't be next to each other anyway

God.. those 5 blueprints alone cost 1300 concrete...

[stone moth]

I need to get better at blueprints

[grizzled lotus]

the complexity was bad enough, but I might drop this game now because of the so many train signal errors

[stone moth]

the only blueprints i have are for a duplication glitch

[stone moth]

I dont use trains, i just use drones

[zenith sage]

Huh..? Why do the lifts remain after disassembling the blueprint?
#screenshots message

[vernal grail]

Bitz made a video explaining train signals. Path signals in particular were kicking my tail, but he explained it p nicely

[grizzled lotus]

drones is the very next thing I need to unlock. can I rely on them entirely?

[stone moth]

i havent used them extensivly but maybe

[grizzled lotus]

I've seen videos and they mostly make sense.d oesn't stop confusing errors from appearing

[ornate saffron]

i watched many videos and i kept failing. it turns out i needed knowledge of the known bugs

[vernal grail]

as long as you have a really good fuel source, yeah you can do that

[grizzled lotus]

normal packaged fuel wo't cut it?

[vernal grail]

i prefer trains just because they only need power to run. any other vehicle needs a fuel source

[near siren]

well that exploration paid off i found a sulpher node lmao

gunpowder ahoy

[vernal grail]

if its a short distance away it will, but if your crossing the continent, youll need batteries or fuel rods

[ornate saffron]

you can be like kirk in a savage fight to the death against a gorn

[grizzled lotus]

trains are fun and everything, and can feel satisfying to see them running and doing their thing. it's just I'm tired of troubleshooting signals so often

[grim carbon]

just discovered that you can put foundations over a node and still put your miner on top of the foundations

[zenith sage]

I could not lay decently looking rails before getting a mod that extends the range...

[vernal grail]

that's 100% fair. Eventually, you'll get to a point where you understand fairly well how signals work and how to get around said bugs, but it can absolutely be a slog to get through that process.

[tranquil maple]

I’d like to point out I just realized there’s no point to unlocking fuel in oil processing

You can’t do anything with it until u unlock packaging or fuel gens

[vernal grail]

ah yes, the classic mining through a foundation. god i love satisfactory physics

[wispy osprey]

I want to make a somewhat convoluted conveyor bus system to receive from my train yard but the item count is decently high

[grim carbon]

did anyone find it odd that certain buildings can go literally anywhere?

[wispy osprey]

The biggest transfer rate is 2 sets of iron ingot at filling 48 slots every 5 minutes 😅

[grim carbon]

like foundations go inside rocks and still show on the outside?

[vernal grail]

4,800 ppm (parts per minute). still v impressive

[whole drum]

This should be very quick though, and you can even bypass the normal steps with shop tickets

[tranquil maple]

Yea ig

I’m past that point I was js pointing out a gameplay hole

[wispy osprey]

Actuality is based on my internal head calculations because the round trip is nearly 10 minutes and the ingot source is 960/min filling a freight in 5 minutes

So i needed another freight to pick up the slack

I've got the delivery step down, it's just all of those parts in one place as a factory is a bit more than I'm ready to work on right now

[whole drum]

Yeah, there's a similar problem with LBF because you get fuel extremely shortly after, and researching Tfuel in the MAM means you can have that basically instantly.

[shrewd mica]

has anyone ever had a bug where your coffee cup suddenly turned into a boom box?
I had my coffee cup out and every time I left clicked it would start and stop my music. mouse wheeled to another tool and mouse wheeled back... no more coffee cup and I am holding 2 boom boxes.
Happened the other day and I wasn't sure... today happened again and I'm like "oh snap... it really did happen lol

[vernal grail]

dont u need packaged fuel to unlock tFuel?

[ornate saffron]

yes

I found all of the required amounts at crash sites

[whole drum]

Yes, but it's super fast to make and you can buy from shop if you want

[vernal grail]

ah ur doing the speedrun strat

[ornate saffron]

nah just a lot of down time to explore

[weary kestrel]

exploring is peaceful, until you find radioactive dog

[whole drum]

Green Spyder

[vernal grail]

^

[weary kestrel]

despair, just realized hazmat is tier 7 so I'm still another phase away ahh

[vernal grail]

bro is receiving acute radiation sickness on top of blunt force trauma

[mystic crag]

Spent like 3 hours just chilling on a train in game

[ornate saffron]

I would not recommend

[vernal grail]

indeed, i would rather take fall dmg

[ornate saffron]

I would avoid Rollercoasters after radio treatments too. My persoanl experience wasnt great

[weary kestrel]

Actually that brings me to an interesting point, there's starter locations that are a lot deeper into the map, does that mean you can spawn near very angry bois? not just small rhinos?

[vernal grail]

whatever could you mean? its not like my stomach wants to be in my chest after i go down a straight 90 degree drop

[ornate saffron]

correct

[weary kestrel]

😨

I'll stick to spending 90% of my gameplay in the grassy plains 🤣

[vernal grail]

you'll get bombs later, dw you'll be fine XD

[prime magnet]

I've seen people talk about/use smart splitters to direct overflow somewhere, but I don't know how to do that. Is it still a thing? how do I go about it

[weary kestrel]

nobelisk that good?

[vague ruin]

im in the norhtern dune forest looking to make my new factory after completeing the early game, is there any specific place here in particular that you would reocmmend?

[vernal grail]

yes, but even better the explosive rebar

[weary kestrel]

ooh true, I think that's actually next on my sulfur tree
It's on my hit-list for today

I won't end up doing it because I'll keep getting distracted, but it's on the list

I've told myself for about 4 days to make my fuel power generators 🤣

[vernal grail]

or if you dont feel like making a sulfur production chain, snowballs exist (provided you played in the ficsmas event)

they arent great dmg, but theyre cheap to make

[ornate saffron]

you need oil for explo rebar too so more insentive

[stone moth]

Explosive rifle ammo

[vernal grail]

that exists? i got to nukes before i got invested in rifle ammo types, so i have no clue

[stone moth]

I think it does

[ornate saffron]

no

[stone moth]

i could be wrong

[ornate saffron]

regular, Homing and Turbo are the ammo types for the gun

[vernal grail]

tyty

[stone moth]

it was turbo i was thinking of

[vernal grail]

explosive rifle ammo would be sick tho

[stone moth]

because its red and explosives are red

[vernal grail]

hundreds of bullets, all exploding on contact

[weary kestrel]

oh lordy, that's a more complicated set-up than I thought
Didn't realize smokeless =/= black powder

[vernal grail]

yeah smokeless is the next step

[stone moth]

We need to pass this up to the devs because itll be peak

[vernal grail]

i agree

[weary kestrel]

okay explosive can be one step lower on the to-do list
step 1 is diluted fuel power gen, or get distracted by something else, whichever comes first (Y)

[feral jay]

eh, we got a great ammo update with U7 I think it was, we don't need more kinds of ammo, this isn't a combat game

[vernal grail]

getting distracted, 100%

[stone moth]

On my list is to start a plastic/rubber/fuel factory

[stone moth]

You can use foundations and walls and the rifle to play a 1v1 build battle in satisfactory

start cranking 90s in satisfactory

[feral jay]

I've never built a PvP map, it would be cool

[vernal grail]

oh god no, hes trying to bring fortnite to satisfactory
mods, ban him /j

[stone moth]

Pls no

if they didnt want me cranking 90s they shouldnt have given me foundations

[weary kestrel]

do you know what you're planning on doing with the plastic & rubber byproducts?

[feral jay]

Well this is why I don't want more weapons in the game, too many and it'l turn my chill factory simulator into a fortnite clone

[stone moth]

What are their byproducts again, is it resin or the purple oil

[vernal grail]

yes
so both

[feral jay]

I just either sink the resin, or turn it into plastic/rubber and sink that

[stone moth]

Ill use the resin to make plastic and the oil into fuel

[dense violet]

depends on the recipes you use for them

[feral jay]

If I can burn it as fuel beforehand, even better

[vernal grail]

plastic and rubber have heavy oil residue (purple)
fuel has polymer resin

[dense violet]

if you go through the recycled loop just resin

the hor turns into fuel which turns into plubber

[feral jay]

Ah, yes, the last plastic plant I set up, I'm just burning off the HOR as fuel

[vernal grail]

recycled rubber/plastic production chains are 🔥

[stone moth]

Thats what i thought, i think for my first factory, ill make fuel straight from crude oil, then ill use the oil residue to make plastic and rubber, ill use most of the fuel for power, but then ill turn the rest into packaged fuel

[dense violet]

but also the resin is usually used as feed stock for the loop, so yo ucan also argue it doesn't have byproducts

[stone moth]

then ill sink the excess plastic and rubber to make sure i dont stop power production

[feral jay]

If you set it up to burn the HOR as fuel, at least to start, it's easier to set it all up

[stone moth]

what is HOR

[vernal grail]

heavy oil residue

[feral jay]

Heavy Oil Residue

[stone moth]

ohh ok

[feral jay]

sorry

[vernal grail]

all g

[stone moth]

I actually find it easier to set it up my way lol

[feral jay]

This plant has six refineries making plastic, and they feed a single refinery that turns their waste HOR into fuel, and I burn that in generators

[stone moth]

especially because i have plenty of power shards and somersloops to boost production

[feral jay]

It's nice and simple

[vernal grail]

initially, yeah your way is better
just wait till you get to turbo fuel and then rocket fuel

[stone moth]

practically infinite of each

[stone moth]

I cant wait to pull out my hair 😁

actually, first i need to automate motors and stators

#1 priority because ive just been buying them from the shop

[feral jay]

That's a bit of skill check for the game, you really need to automate those to prgress much further

[vernal grail]

actually, theres an alternate for rocket fuel that skips turbo fuel entirely. so its a little easier on your two braincells to do the math

[stone moth]

Yeah i know

I also need to remember to keep scanning hardrives

because ive scanned 3 and i got the 3 recipies i wanted

i have over 100 more to scan

[feral jay]

I don't "scan" so much as "explore" with SCIM as a "helper"...

[stone moth]

Whats SCIM? I dont know many acronyms lol

[vernal grail]

ok that one idk. whats scim?

[ornate saffron]

Satisfactory Calculater and interactive map

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com

[vernal grail]

ah you go through the map like a checklist

[feral jay]

again, sorry, I've been playing for a few years and I forget that a lot of people don't know the "lingo"

[stone moth]

Ive been playing for years too lol

pretty much from start of beta

[feral jay]

You're fired.

[vernal grail]

your Ficsit termination slip will be mailed to you soon

[stone moth]

and i only just thought of using foundations for my factories

[vernal grail]

double fired

[stone moth]

it used to be a lgio style factory

[cunning glade]

No thx

[feral jay]

You're fired again. This time drawn and qauartered, too.

:p

[cunning glade]

Fortnite can stay in the multiverse hell it's in

[ornate saffron]

but.... horse allergies.... can we use cars?

[vernal grail]

ah a spaghetti man

[stone moth]

I am here to save kitten and/or puppies, i dont care as long as i save them

[stone moth]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1454687487816630303

[hard stump]

Ok is there at least a way to turn blueprints just slightly rather then 90 degrees?

[stone moth]

this is my earlier versions of my first factory

it got worse later on

[feral jay]

Try holding CTRL

[hard stump]

Can’t do that on Xbox

[feral jay]

There might be an analogous control

[stone moth]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1459761273980977215 this is my new factory

[feral jay]

CTRL on PC is "fine control", kinda

[stone moth]

also an earlier version

[sullen gull]

.5m nudge usually

[feral jay]

Yeah there could be a similar control on XBox for @hard stump

[vernal grail]

solid, gj

[feral jay]

Hold somehing like L2 or R2 or something like that

[stone moth]

I started that yesterday, and im already on phase 2, working on phase 3

just unlocked oil and stuff

[hard stump]

Been trying why I asked. Cuz nudging does not work diagonally only up down left right forward backward

[vernal grail]

xbox controls are a lil weird tbf

[feral jay]

Wish I could help more, I'm a PC player

[stone moth]

You can go to #satisfactory-consoles to ask the console players

[feral jay]

Or that 👆

[stone moth]

At least thats what i think that channel is for

[weary kestrel]

Similar spots 🤝
Mine is a cluster of nonsense that needs to be rebuilt now that I have mk2 miners ngl

[feral jay]

I thought it was for REAL players to insult and brigade the dirty console players...?

[weary kestrel]

and I did a massive exploration and have the urge to rip down my motor factory as well to use my new alt receipes

[stone moth]

Man i didnt even think of that, i gotta upgrade everything and tear everything down 😭

[weary kestrel]

I mean you don't have to by any stretch

[feral jay]

Leave every factory and just build new factories

[weary kestrel]

The old factory is still providing stuff

but my original area is so painfully inefficent creating frames, reinf plates & rotors, all at the same time, it's just.... painful

[stone moth]

I have no space to cleanly upgrade my stuff

[feral jay]

SO leave it, go somewhere now where you don't have to look at it, and build something new... it's a large world

[stone moth]

and im pretty sure everything is already overclocked

[feral jay]

yes you do

[stone moth]

where

[weary kestrel]

but the new area is angry and scary 🤣

[stone moth]

everything in my modern factory is so compact

[feral jay]

It's a very big world

[stone moth]

I want my main base (where i make plates and the very basic materials) to be upgraded but its too compact together

[feral jay]

So build a new base, or a sub base

[stone moth]

Ill just tear everything down, its not that hard

[feral jay]

Or "liberate" another region of the map

[weary kestrel]

the map is so gorgeous though, I feel bad flooding it with concrete foundations 😢

[feral jay]

I just liberated the Spire Coast and built a computer factory there

[stone moth]

ive been wanting to already because i dont like how i vertically made my home base

[weary kestrel]

Funnily enough I'm the opposite, I don't like how horizontal mine is 🤣

[feral jay]

What I'm trying to say is, don't tear down anything, that's just destroying work hours. Just build new stuff.

[stone moth]

It took like 1 hour to make it

and now that i know how to make it i can make it faster

[feral jay]

It took me the better part of a week to build the computer factory I just finished

(IRL)

[weary kestrel]

self made? kinda based

once I hit phase 3, I've given up learning
I'm using exterior resources except for premade blueprints

[stone moth]

Yeah my thing is like stairs vertically, so i was thinking i should make it less diagonally and more up and down

[feral jay]

The week before was just building a crystal oscillator factory to feed the computer factory

[weary kestrel]

Oh yeah... crystal oscillators are something I've done like zero looking into

[feral jay]

And I think I spent a day building railroads to ship the oscillators in

[stone moth]

crystal oscillators arent that hard to make though, how did it take a week?

i did it in like 30 minutes, top (different save file than the one im currently playing)

[feral jay]

I make very meticulous plans

And I'm doing an... interesting challenge

[stone moth]

The save file i did it in was a spaghetti save file where i cared none about organization

[feral jay]

Sometimes I spend an entire day just stringing power lines

[stone moth]

Power lines are like the one thing i dont care about placing and making them neat, mainly care about conveyors and stuff so i can actually walk

[feral jay]

#screenshots message I so care about my power lines

[cunning glade]

Why?

[stone moth]

Holy that is excessive

[sullen gull]

Looks snazzy though 🙂

[stone moth]

i literally just spam tier 1 power poles

[weary kestrel]

very pretty, but I'm the opposite cause I like the massive range I can get from the power towers 🤣

[stone moth]

even though i have tier 2 unlocked

[vernal grail]

@cunning glade am home and on my pc. where vc?

[feral jay]

Because the only command&control the game gives me is with power switches, so I make the most of them

[cunning glade]

I can just call u aslong as that works for u

[feral jay]

I run multiple worldwide power grids

[vernal grail]

works for me

[feral jay]

One of those lines is just for geothermal power

[stone moth]

Is it possible to set it up that if a power failure happens, your batteries only do a certain part of your factory instead of the whole grid, but when the power failure fixes itself, it starts powering the entire thing again

[feral jay]

No

[stone moth]

Aw man

[charred spire]

can anyone explain an easy way to get the ores in the NW cave to the outside with a lift?

[stone moth]

they gotta add that in in 1.2 update

[dense violet]

build a wall up, build some lifts. Done

[feral jay]

I'd love to see "power diodes", so that power can only flow one way through a buildable of some kind

[dense violet]

use priority power switches

[fluid crow]

some of that may be possible with priority power switch or preventing the outage

[stone moth]

are those automatic? I dont want to have to manually turn them back on

[feral jay]

I build large battery backup plants but that's as close as I've come to that, but they function as a worldwide backup, not for individual factores

[dense violet]

well hmm no with power switches what would happen is your power grid would jsut turn off sections until your power system is fine

[cursive crane]

Closest youll get is priority power switches. You can set it so certain parts of the factory will shut down instead of the whole thing

[dense violet]

you just have to go into any priority power switch and you have access to all of the buttosn across the map

[cursive crane]

^

[stone moth]

Ok cool, i only have normal power switches so ill probably add that when i unlock them

[feral jay]

ohhhhh you haven't unlocked priority power switches before?

[rain dune]

I never knew that there were radioactive areas.

[stone moth]

nope, never even used a normal power switch

[weary kestrel]

spicy areas and spicy doggos

[feral jay]

they give you a LOT of remote control ability

[stone moth]

i basically duplicate somersloops and build a ton of the alien power augmentors so i never have to worry about power

[rain dune]

Is there any way to counter radiation.

[stone moth]

i built like 20 in my last file

[weary kestrel]

Phase 4 (Tier 7) has hazmat suit

[stone moth]

hazmat suit

[feral jay]

Just the rad suit, otherwise no, there is no "shielding"

[rain dune]

Damn that long

[weary kestrel]

I've also ran into that issue 🤣

to be fairness its not painful enough to stop you from looting sloops etc

[stone moth]

I like how you can now blow up the smelly rocks

back in my day, you couldnt do that

it was like REALLY early in the beta

[rain dune]

The toxic bomb thing?

[feral jay]

Those are fart rocks. SAY IT RIGHT!

[stone moth]

potato potato

[feral jay]

Potato is the only correct spelling.

[fluid crow]

the opposite

[rain dune]

Somehow found 3 mercer spheres in 30 mins

I think I have 5 right now

[feral jay]

Cheat more.

[weary kestrel]

Is there a scan for spheres? Can't recall

[feral jay]

yes

[rain dune]

Object detector

[stone moth]

use a bluprint designer to duplicate them

I have over 500 mercer spheres rn

[rain dune]

Oh my gah

[feral jay]

I had a few hundred once in a pre-1.0 save after a few map resets

Felt like cheating tbh

[stone moth]

Spoiled in case people dont want to know how to cheat ||Basically build walls with a gate, build a vehicle with storage, drive the vehicle onto the blueprint, load the vehicle with items you wish to duplicate, name and save blueprint, delete the vehicle and then just reload the blueprint. The vehicle technically isn't part of it but due to a glitch or something with gates being open it thinks it is and spawns the vehicle in||

[ornate saffron]

you can always just use options to spawn them into your inventory

[stone moth]

Yeah but then you cant get achievments

[feral jay]

reminds me of the conveyor duplicator glitch that we had for a while

[stone moth]

i want the achievements

[vague jetty]

How big is the satisfactory map from end to end like the farthest end to farthest end

[ornate saffron]

after so many years you shgould have them lol

[stone moth]

I hope they dont patch this duplication glitch

[feral jay]

Approximately 10kmx10km but don't quote me on that

[stone moth]

the thing is ive always played with no power, and achievements a relitively new

like 1.0 i think

[ornate saffron]

47.1 km2

or 7.972 km x 6.8 km)

[rain dune]

My coal ores is 1km away from the factory. Do I really have to place multiple electric poles

[stone moth]

Yes

[feral jay]

many multiples

[rain dune]

Damn

[weary kestrel]

1km? sheesh I thought mine was far at like 400m 🤣

[stone moth]

max power line length is 4 cable

kinda like how max conveyor length is 28 plates

[feral jay]

Unless you "cheat" with a mod that extencds max construction lengths...

❤️ Construction Preferences

[stone moth]

I dont mod my games (except for minecraft)

in minecraft i use createmod to make satisfactory in minecraft

[feral jay]

I only ever use vanilla friendly mods, so mostly UI enhancements

[cloud charm]

Do you know if the devs plan on expanding the sorry and lore of the game?

[feral jay]

I doubt it, they took the story WAY back for 1.0

[stone moth]

the story has been like that from basically day 1

i'd like to see if they add more phases though

[feral jay]

LIke there was a story and lore, including how Caterium got its name, but it got axed

[weary kestrel]

what more do we need than ada's robotic AI voice giving us amusing zingers from time to time

[cloud charm]

Aw man. I feel like it would be really cool to have an Avatar like story for humanity exploiting other worlds for resources because Earth’s running out.

[dense violet]

the cut most of hte story for 1.0

[coral marsh]

Just hit 107.5Gw of power storage btw

[feral jay]

I like the "You're building a Von Neumann probe" theory

[coral marsh]

That'd be fun

[weary kestrel]

why not 107.6?

[cloud charm]

That would be an absolutely awesome premise

[stone moth]

She needs to randomly say snarky comments more often, like if you deconstruct something she'll mock you or something

[cloud charm]

Von Neumann probes are the most fascinating sci-fi idea

[feral jay]

This game really doesn't need story, it's a chill factory game, everything else is superfluous. SOmething I like about Satisfactory is that the devs know what the game isn't.

[stone moth]

I wish you could use portals for item transportation

[weary kestrel]

dimentional depot would like a word

[feral jay]

That would break the game

[stone moth]

yeah but the depot cant output

[cloud charm]

The thing about story is it’s optional how much the player cares. Like the player can dig into it or not.

[stone moth]

It would be VERY late game

[feral jay]

And never underestimate the bandwidht of a 747 full of hard drives

[stone moth]

like last tier you unlock

[coral marsh]

Woah now dont get too carried away 🤣 (my ultimate endgame goal is 20Twh of storage, 200 thousand of the storage units across 4 or 5 locations

[stone moth]

They should also add terraformation

would be fun (but hard to code)

[coral marsh]

Incredibly

[cloud charm]

I wonder if one day Satisfactory will get a DLC like how Factorio got the Space Age DLC. That was like the only valid DLC I’ve ever really seen implemented in gaming.

[stone moth]

WAIT I KNOW

SPACE EXPLORATION

[coral marsh]

Minecraft has the Cubic chunks mod and that took years to make and finalize

[stone moth]

explore and exploit more planets

[coral marsh]

It would fit the game so well, being able to explore the universe and create more bases

[stone moth]

Rocket ships to transport stuff between worlds

[cloud charm]

Make your own network of planets shooting resources to and from worlds

[coral marsh]

Bruh, ontop of having 107m5Gw of storage, I went upto 71Gw max production, still gonna take 2 hours to fill these storage units lmao

[feral jay]

Terraforming works on procgen maps, but this game has a meticulously and lovingly handcrafted map, that took years to create. Terraforming just wouldn't work.

[coral marsh]

Minecraft is proc gen so it works very well

[feral jay]

(procedurally generatoed)

[weary kestrel]

Hear me out, you click "new game" and crash land on a new planet, all your resources from your previous exploration destroyed in the process ( you find them in various crash sites throughout the world) 🤣

[coral marsh]

Devious, I like it

[feral jay]

uh... that is this game

You just forgot

[weary kestrel]

that's the joke

[cloud charm]

Okay, think about how Factorio has a plethora of setting that the user can either choose to use or not. Terraforming, enemies, or other settings can be adjusted by the player. The old-school players can keep playing their tried and true game, and there’s more features to check out if it ever gets stagnant.

[feral jay]

Factorio is... has a fragmented player base, for this reason. I like that every player I talk to here is playing on the same map

[stone moth]

I want space exploration because it'll allow them to add more tiers and phases, while making it easy to add a lore reason and stuff

[dense violet]

that's sounds like a whole entire ass game

probably dyson sphere or something?

[feral jay]

Now a new map? I hate DLCs as a matter of principle, but a new map for this game, I'd pay for.

[coral marsh]

Would be really cool honestly, this game could have some really cool and super fun DLC's, the problem is the game engine Ue5 is already being pushed to its limits with the base game as far as im aware.

[cloud charm]

Satisfactory just has a lot of potential. Coffeestain has done a great job, but it’s fun to image what the game could evolve into if they kept developing new content.

[stone moth]

I dont want dlc, i want it to be all free updates

[coral marsh]

My mate reckons that if we were to ever get dlc's or expansions for the game, the devs may have to go with another game engine

[feral jay]

They are

[coral marsh]

I would happily pay 20 or 30(NZD) for a Dlc for this game

[stone moth]

My broke ahh wouldnt be able to buy any dlc

im still in highschool and unemployed

[feral jay]

But you could still play on the "original" map, and still play the same game as the rest of us

[coral marsh]

I wanna get the game for my Bf, he told me if he ever got his hands on the game he'd end up being another "let's game it out" 🤣

[weary kestrel]

no one will be another "lets game it out", that is a different being altogether

[cloud charm]

Obviously free would be best for us, the players. But I don’t think the devs could survive off praise lol

[stone moth]

Thats literally me until yesterday

[coral marsh]

Dont test my Bf, he'll do it

[feral jay]

They do need to eat, and pay rent, yes

[teal crater]

Hey question about fuel stuffs : when it talks about 4 m cubed, does the per minute mean just 40 units per minute or 40 units of 4m cubed per minute?

[coral marsh]

Besides, the games only $53 here in NZ so its cheap

[feral jay]

4 "m/cubed" is just the unit, you can ignore the unit, more or less, and just plug the number into your calculations

[dense violet]

ignore the cubed units, just look at the per min

[teal crater]

Okay basically just ignore the little number and pay attention to the per minute number

Okay got it

Thanks

[weary kestrel]

I swear half this discord are super late game building super giga computer factories, or exactly at phase 5 figuring out oil, nothing else 🤣

[feral jay]

It's always been a mix of old timers and n00bs lol

[teal crater]

I get confused with numbers sometimes okay/j

[coral marsh]

Liquids are a b!tch so dont worry

[feral jay]

I can add large columns of small numbers, very quickly

[coral marsh]

It takes a while to fully figure it out

[stone moth]

Ive had the game for like basically the entire beta, but i didnt trully get into playing until 1.1 update, so would i be a noob or an oldtimer

[zealous urchin]

giga computer, new item

[coral marsh]

Thats always cool

[stone moth]

I hate aluminum

[dense violet]

y?

[coral marsh]

Aluminium*

[weary kestrel]

you get the point

[feral jay]

Until you ask me to subtract lol

[stone moth]

i cant recycle water good enough

[dense violet]

don't mix the fresh and waste together and it's very easy

[zealous urchin]

but i want stacks

[dense violet]

basically every system you can make in the game can be either

very easy

or insanely complex

what a waste

[stone moth]

How?

[coral marsh]

Package it in 3 packagers, use the copper sheets canister recipe and sink the packaged water

[stone moth]

I dont have copper sheet canisters

[feral jay]

Or anywhere in bewteen you wish to make it, just don't do what everyone tells you not to and then complain that it doesn't work

[coral marsh]

Not really, if you need to excess water somewhere just use a drone

[stone moth]

I need to scan more harddrives

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[coral marsh]

Steel then or the original plastic recipe

[dense violet]

you're using a bunch of copper for no reason when you can easily reuse it with no issues.

huge waste and way more complex

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
didnt realize the truck was so much taller than the tractor, now i have to raise all my belts across the desert so i can actually move around in the truck

[ornate saffron]

any pure or wet concrete recipe will do

[weary kestrel]

Biiiiiig truck

[dense violet]

it's always wild how people will make managing waste water so much harder than it has to be then complain about it

[coral marsh]

Its keeping my aluminium refinery working and thats all I care about

[stone moth]

I have 4 alternates, iron ingot to screw, automated portable miners, and encased steel pipes, and stitched reinforced iron plates

[coral marsh]

I also use some of the excess water to make pure iron ingots

[feral jay]

I build them once, and I build them right, the first time. (/bragging)

[dense violet]

ok, and it's much simpler and less work reusing the waste water.

hence why jumping through a bunch of hoops and sinking resources for no reason is ' a big waste '

you can do it if you like, nothing is stopping you, but it's more work and wastes resources and that's objectively true

[ornate saffron]

us it in a coal genereator mayhaps

[stone moth]

Can you give me the overclock percentages or is it all 100%

[feral jay]

I'm with @dense violet - it's much easier to not mix the waste and fresh water in an aluminium loop

[coral marsh]

Eventually ill build an efficient base from the ground up, but not for quite some time

[zealous urchin]

more work vs more mental work
pick ur cope lol

[feral jay]

Well or any fluid loop - if you can avoid mixing waste and fresh, it's far easier

[dense violet]

chat in #math-and-meta

[feral jay]

Mixing gets easier with gases, but not by a whole lot

[stone moth]

theres gases?

[feral jay]

Indeed

[coral marsh]

Nitrogen

[stone moth]

oh no

more logistics 😭

[teal crater]

Hey follow up question : am I better going for under 40 units per minute or as close as I can over 40?

[feral jay]

Oh no, gases are easier actually, there's no headlift to worry about

But, you can't use output/input priority juctions the same way

Because gravity is no longer a factor

[feral jay]

Follow up question to what? Busy channel tonight

[teal crater]

An earlier question

[zenith spire]

Under 40. This in order to keep the machine running constantly. It will turn off for a second or two if it doesn’t have enough resources BUT method one will have “messy” conveyors, the other will have “clean” conveyors

Sorry don’t know what that was responding to in particular but hope it helps

[teal crater]

Figured but since I can get it as close to 40.005

I wanted to be sure

Thanks tho

[feral jay]

Yo I really like what they did with the Spire Coast, it was pretty bland before

Now, it's a cool place to build

[ornate saffron]

I feel like iwould be uncomfortabley warm everywhere in this game

[feral jay]

There's a snow biome - check in the hub and you should find it

[ornate saffron]

its 20 below and im in shorts

[feral jay]

(checks username) yep, checks out

[weary kestrel]

I think you're right, why don't we have solar power

Just litter the entire world with inefficient solar panels 🤣

[zenith spire]

Logically, I could estimate the average mean temperature as 95-111 degrees Fahrenheit when excluding outliers. This is based on organic vegetation, star placement + distance, etc.

[weary kestrel]

actually I know the answer, because that's not abusing the world enough for fiscit's protocols

[feral jay]

Becuase it would break the game. Begone!

[ornate saffron]

the covered this is a dev talk.

[zealous urchin]

refined power is a thing, or rather a mod

[grizzled lotus]

my train has "signaling errors" but I don't know what it is

[zenith spire]

Interesting

[feral jay]

It does seem like a rather... equatorial world

[grizzled lotus]

"signalling problem"

[zenith spire]

Ion watch any dev talks, I was just going off IRL based markers in the game

[zenith spire]

Try demolishing your whole railway & rebuild it, works for me (just kidding)

[grizzled lotus]

tbh I'd rather uninstall at this point lol

and jump into factorio

[zenith spire]

But really though, the signals are troublesome. I don’t even use trains. I am stubborn on using conveyors

[ornate saffron]

its pretty obvious unlimited resource free power would destroy the game loop

[feral jay]

It's a core game mechanic that to produce something, you must first consume something, with the exception of raw ore

Solar/wind/tidal power would break that mechanic

[zealous urchin]

you would be too lazy to automate that many solar panels and then give up realizing how much wire u need for acumulators

[mystic crag]

I found out how to speed up using slide and jump

[zenith spire]

The mechanics are there though, it could be refined. The suns path across the sky can be aligned w/ the panels for maximum power & later have an upgrade to rotate the panels w/ the path.
It definitely could be viable but it would have to produce relativity low power, lower than a coal generator (?)
Night would cycle slightly more often.
& you need the panels connected to battery’s to store power, not directly power lines because that would be inefficient. & they would also have to be relatively expensive in parts but could be more so an early game power source

[feral jay]

The only way I've come up with to introduce solar power would be to launch satellite "reflectors", which could then beam "solar power" to remote locations, if you've built a "collector" somewhere

If those satellites required some kind of upkeep in the form of launches, it might work

[zealous urchin]

i think im getting ragebaited
its literaly in a mod

[opaque wren]

Does anyone know why my inventory slots do not increase?

I have done a research with +6 inventory slots and no change.

[stone moth]

have any of you guys bought the verified ficscit checkmarck

[zenith spire]

Possibly. Like the satellite network would need regular maintenance every now & again or you would have to send up a payload of materials via the space needle to them to keep em runnin

[stone moth]

using tickets

[feral jay]

Yes, like that, it could work I think

It would allow you to power remote "outposts"

[zenith spire]

Absolutely

Should be something the dev team puts to fruition 😂