satisfactory

[glass pagoda]

#1038092680493801533

[queen slate]

Ah mb

Ty

[lilac bear]

Odd

[hard ivy]

On PC you just click on the header
idk about console

[tranquil zinc]

there is only "Only show affordable recipes"

[glass pagoda]

I'll answer you there

[queen slate]

K thx

[tranquil zinc]

omg, just switch to keyboard and mouse, and its indeed hidden

[gloomy tusk]

the first one on the list to the left

[tranquil zinc]

ok so I click the header with mouse. then switch back to controller, it now shows. thanks

[gritty zealot]

my fellow pioneers

who is up factorising right now

[formal spindle]

me

[turbid gazelle]

Whats better? #screenshots message

grey, grey yellow or classic ficsit?

[gritty zealot]

that depends on what the rest of your factory looks like, but i like the middle one best

[turbid gazelle]

thank you. no i am not going to show my factory. it worse then lets game it out, trust me

[gritty zealot]

thats obviously an exaggeration...

[turbid gazelle]

no it really isnt

[reef basin]

Why not ask in a channel where we can write?

[turbid gazelle]

do you WANT to see it?

[reef basin]

E.g. #design-and-architecture

[turbid gazelle]

idk

[lilac bear]

Then you should obviously show it

[spare bolt]

I’ve now spent two days just trying to get a coal power plant working

I’ve yet to build a single coal generator because I’m trying to set up automation nearby my power plant location for coal plant parts

[lilac bear]

Do you think you got it?

[gloomy tusk]

my coal generators reach a max consumption of around 90 but how do i check when the system is being overclocked?

[green fiber]

you see it in the ui

if its at above 100% its overclocked

[gloomy tusk]

the ui?

[green fiber]

generator menu

[gloomy tusk]

like the graph

[green fiber]

UI = any kind of menu when you click on the machine

the power graph wont show any of that

you have to interact with the generator directly

[gloomy tusk]

so what key things should i look for

[green fiber]

there you see how fast generators burn fuel and how much water they need

and at the bottom (if you unlocked overclocking in the MAM) is the overclocking slider

[gloomy tusk]

can i take a photo and send it in screenshots

[green fiber]

sure

[gloomy tusk]

ok

give me one sec to launch it

[gloomy tusk]

Sent it

[green fiber]

you dont even have overclocking available yet

you cant overclock anything

[gloomy tusk]

Wdym

[green fiber]

the panel is locked

[gloomy tusk]

I’m talking about when the machine will fail

[green fiber]

that is something completely different

[gloomy tusk]

I think I forgot what overclocking means

[green fiber]

it means making a machine work faster by using special shards

[gloomy tusk]

Oh

[green fiber]

you wanna know how to read the power graph properly, yea?

[gloomy tusk]

Well I meant when will I know my machine is close to doing the power grid failure thingy

[green fiber]

Blue: Max consumption - how much power all your machines use if they run all the time without interruption.
Gray: Power capacity (dark is production but 99% of the time thats identical to light gray) - it shows how much power all your generators together make
Orange: consumption - how much your machines currently use.
If orange touches light gray or goes above, thats when you get a power failure

[formal spindle]

Gray: Together on that line you can have multiple power lines

[green fiber]

right yeah - all the numbers are always just for THAT specific power network

[gloomy tusk]

In my image I can’t see any grey

[green fiber]

only for all machines connected with cable.

[strong fiber]

Biomass burners with any other form of power production can make capacity higher than power production

[green fiber]

at the very very top of the power screen

[gloomy tusk]

So I’m good?

[green fiber]

you can see the numbers too

[gloomy tusk]

How much more can I exploit from this one coal generator

[green fiber]

you have a capacity / production of 150 MW

thats 2 coal generators total - they both share the burden of powering your factory

your max consumption is at 95 MW - so you could still add more

[gloomy tusk]

I have 3 coal gens

[green fiber]

then one is not connected to this grid

[strong fiber]

one isn’t connected or isn’t running

[hard ivy]

or doesn't have fuel/water

[gloomy tusk]

One is connected to its own grid

[hard ivy]

why?

[gloomy tusk]

Should I connect them all

[queen slate]

Yes

[strong fiber]

yes

[green fiber]

if you want to use their power together, yea

[lilac bear]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator

[strong fiber]

Unless u want seperate grids

[gloomy tusk]

For more organisation and. Cause I’m new and don’t know what I’m doing

[green fiber]

power grids have no limit on how much power you can put on them
so you can put all of it on one grid if you want

[queen slate]

There isn’t a limit to how much power you can produce on one grid so connect everything to it

[gloomy tusk]

Thanks this helps a lot guys

[formal spindle]

if i put miltiple tractors on the same line will the autopilots work in harmony or do i need to specifically start each tractor with the correct space between them

[green fiber]

it will just keel over and die with enough because it just kinda works badly

it can handle a handful

and if the route is set up so it kind of self-intersects at some point then you run the risk of a complete deadlock too

and than can only be avoided by not crossing over the path in any way (at least without any brides or ramps that actually cross over / under)

[gloomy tusk]

Is it bad that I have 28hrs of playtime

Over the past 2 days

[green fiber]

Rookie numbers

[hard ivy]

people have 100x more

[green fiber]

over 2 day is pretty decent i guess xd

[gloomy tusk]

I’m so tired but I dreamt about organising my factory

😭

[green fiber]

get enough sleep because tired pioneers make shit factories and do bad math

[gloomy tusk]

I’m also sick

So I accidentally broke something

[green fiber]

a bone or...?

[gloomy tusk]

Took me like an hour to figure out what it was

[gloomy tusk]

In my factory

[green fiber]

oh phahaha

[gloomy tusk]

I’ve just been at my desk in a blanket either playing this or mega ink

Megabonk

Is the Zeno basher worth it

[versed cosmos]

yes

[hard ivy]

basically everything in the game is worth something

[gloomy tusk]

What will I need to kill

[green fiber]

everything that moves and is in the way

[gloomy tusk]

The lizard dog?

[green fiber]

if it gets in the way.... 💥

[zealous urchin]

dream in satisfactory

i think they should make underwater dlc

like anno 2070

new resurces, new buildings, base underwater

[real shale]

oh my, im looking at one of my old factories and the more i look at it the more i go "why did i do this?"

[zealous urchin]

would pop off

[hard ivy]

that's subnautica

[zealous urchin]

i was there, it wa sme who remade ur factory muahaha

[queen slate]

True

[real shale]

you are bad at making factories then

[zealous urchin]

would still be good no

[real shale]

1200m3 of crude oil and somehow i only made 3 GW of power out of it.....

[formal spindle]

after 3 hours i made my coal plant, now i need to leave it for a bit and see how the tractor is holding up

with LOTS of sidetrack , this game is ADHD heaven or nightmare

[hard ivy]

😆 could be more than 10x that without adding anything other than water

[real shale]

i dont know what i was doing here honestly

welp i know what I am rebuilding to free up a LOT of stress now lmao

[unkempt blade]

yeah but were you having fun?

[real shale]

no, i definitely wasnt

[unkempt blade]

I'm sorry to hear that. Did you try using more factory carts?

[zealous urchin]

🫸

[real shale]

hmmmm potential to get 6800 fuel/min from here

[unkempt blade]

So did everyone get all their ficsmas wishes granted? I didn't get a mk2 factory cart so I must have been on the naughty list

[real shale]

85 GW if i just use fuel alone

and for turbo fuel it would be.......

[unkempt blade]

2.6 megahyperterawatts

[hard ivy]

2.(2) times more

[real shale]

188889 MW

[zealous urchin]

turbocart

[real shale]

or 188.889 GW

although that would be an absurd amount of coal and sulphur to make that happen lmao

[unkempt blade]

~189 kilomegawatts?

[real shale]

honestly anything is better than the 3 GW i am producing here lmao

[hard ivy]

yeah, turbo is pretty meh because of that

[lilac bear]

Behave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix

[hard ivy]

it's easier to just do fuel

[scenic mirage]

nuclear 😈

[unkempt blade]

sorry I can only microbehave 🙁

[zealous urchin]

bee have

[real shale]

me when i end up with 100 GW before going nuclear

[zealous urchin]

ionized

[hard ivy]

ew

[unkempt blade]

or .1 kilogigawatts

[zealous urchin]

somebody here said a couple of days ago they wanted to make 10k ionized fuel with dark ion

[hard ivy]

I don't think I've heard of a worse idea, ever

[lilac bear]

Do you want some? I can think of a few.

[unkempt blade]

screwmaxing survives another ranking!

[gritty zealot]

Hello dear fellow pioneers

whos up factorising right now?

[unkempt blade]

I'm factoryeeting at the moment

[gritty zealot]

oh MMMY GOOODDD

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[unkempt blade]

I like your energy. Want to be best friends?

[gritty zealot]

im taken, gomenasai

but we can be pioneer coworkers

[zealous urchin]

how is best friend a taken position

also cart emoji when

[whole drum]

[leaden turret]

[queen slate]

Because you already have one

[unkempt blade]

it's easiest to just say everyone is my best friend then I don't have to worry about keeping score

[zealous urchin]

[queen slate]

That’s what I do

[unkempt blade]

which is good news for all you fine people who are my best friends

[bitter pine]

[queen slate]

Ty

You have a nice personality

[zealous urchin]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[whole drum]

If everyone is equally worthless, there's also no score-keeping.

[unkempt blade]

everyone is still best in that situation!

[whole drum]

Insofar as "best" is a relative term, yes

[unkempt blade]

but I'll be optimistic and assume you're all amazing people capable of experiencing the joy of factory carts

[queen slate]

“But words are words”

Ik im weird

[leaden turret]

butt words are turds

[sinful bobcat]

Here is a good question, are the satisfactory golf balls good

[real shale]

golf balls?

What golf balls

[golden nexus]

The ones coming in 1.2

[real shale]

i know dimpled utility orbs, i dont know about any golf balls

[sinful bobcat]

Are the dimpled utility orbs actually good for dimpled utility orb hitting

[brave ruin]

🥱

🤤

[real shale]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, cant really fit fuel generators into mk2 blueprint designers in a way that works out

[hard ivy]

you can fit 4

[versed cosmos]

it can fit 2 side by side right?

[real shale]

yeah but i wanted to have underflooring for the pipe work blueprinted

it fits 4 exactly with no other room left to spare

[versed cosmos]

the mk2 designer is only just tall enough for the fuel generator?

[real shale]

yeah it and the refinery fit just barely in terms of height

[hard ivy]

Putting pipes below the floor is a terrible idea

[scenic mirage]

pipes always above, let gravity do the work

[hard ivy]

Everything should be fed level or from above

[real shale]

I haven't had any issues with it yet... yet, I'm sure in time I will find issues, but currently it's been helping a lot with making things look tidier, especially for anywhere i've been producing diluted fuel, since i've got three different types of pipes to work with there.

actually 4

[scenic mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g9JQfFZ0Js&list=PLxpToD1Are7hyEOv6JmnIi2n7I3ig28LH&index=14&pp=iAQB

[lilac bear]

Blocking Makes Organising A Breeze - Satisfactory Guided Playthrough by TotalXclipse

[ornate idol]

is there a way to clear a line from the dimensional depot for an item that is no longer in it?

I used the depot to hold ficsmas stuff that won't ever be in there again, but now I can't seem to remove the entry

[real shale]

miniature heart attack moment, ended up seeing a blown fuse after i'd removed the old fuel gens but it was a false alarm lmao

[queen slate]

Hate when that happens

[soft marsh]

Making a blueprint for rocketfuel based off one I found and I'm starting to think they had the best possible layout lol

[primal obsidian]

is a train taking up multiple blocks a problem

[white dawn]

I think it's technically fine, though it can cause intersection inefficiency depending on where exactly it's happening. The usual advice given out is to make your blocks at least as big as your longest train, though I think things should technically work fine even if you don't

[primal obsidian]

ok so i dont have to remove a bunch of signals every time i make a longer train or something

[golden nexus]

its fine to be in 2 blocks at once, it will just behave as one longer train and prevent other trains from entering the blocks that it is in

[wild kindle]

do i need more radio control units or supercomputers

[white dawn]

In the end, depends on how big you build the various things which require RCUs and Supercomputers, and which recipes you use to do so

Though in terms of absolute amount produced in your save, I assume you'll end up making more per minute of RCU

My advice is to not stress about how much to make, though. "Planning for the future" like that is often kind of a waste of time, unless you literally map out your future production entirely

Just make whatever you feel like right now (often just whatever you need immediately), with the knowledge that you'll probably have to build more later

[wild kindle]

ok thanks

[white dawn]

(I admit that on my 1.0 save, I actually did map out my production for everything that needed Supercomputers, 'cause I sort of did just want to make that factory one time. But mapping out a large chunk of your endgame production isn't gonna be for everyone, and obvs could require looking stuff up on the wiki, too)

[queen slate]

That is the best advice I’ve heard
When you get to the “future” you will be able to make much more of the item due to better logistics and miners and experience

[vague burrow]

We can't sink Power Shards? That is kinda annoying for production.

[white dawn]

Yeah, the "easiest" way to sink 'em would be to overflow to an otherwise-idle Packaged Ionized Fuel factory, and sink those

It'd be nice if they flipped over to sinkable once you unlock automation

It definitely made sense for them to be unsinkable prior to 1.0, since they couldn't be automated then, and arguably it's a good thing to make them unsinkable during the majority of the milestone progression, but yeah

[vague burrow]

Yeah, I definitely agree, mis-clicking early game could be disasterous. lol

[queen slate]

Any tips for making a fuel powered generator

[white dawn]

1. Make Fuel
2. Pipe Fuel to Fuel-Powered Generator
3. 

[queen slate]

Ye honestly idk what I was expecting lol

Secret ingredient ;D

[white dawn]

Slightly more useful: You get your best "bang for the buck," so to speak (at least in terms of Oil-to-Fuel ratios) by finding the Heavy Oil Residue and (Packaged) Diluted Fuel alt recipes

You get a lot more fuel per unit of oil using those two

[queen slate]

Thx

[white dawn]

The Packaged version of Diluted Fuel (which is all you have access to in Phase 3) can be slightly tricksy to set up, since you have to set up a packaging loop. But you can fit a 1x Refinery + 2x Packager "closed loop" even in the stock 4x4 Blueprinter, and even include 20-30 Empty Packages "inside" the blueprint, so you can place it all down with one click

In Phase 4 you have access to the Blender version of "Packaged Fuel" which is more straightforward, but with a properly-set-up blueprint, you can make the Packaged version a little one-click mini-Blender

[queen slate]

What does closed loop mean?

[white dawn]

You have a "Packaged Water" Packager (with some Empty Canisters pre-loaded) which takes in water. It sends the Packaged Water to the "Packaged Diluted Fuel" refinery (along with Heavy Oil Residue), which spits out Packaged Fuel. That goes to an "Unpackage Fuel" Packager which outputs your Fuel and also the Empty Canister. The Empty canister gets looped back to the Packaged Water Packager to start the cycle all over again

The whole thing takes in HOR+Water, and spits out Fuel. Just needs a small amount of "seed" Empty Packages in there to get it going

[queen slate]

Ok thx

[white dawn]

One potential layout of such a thing, though that's not the only way to do it: #1450657483768074240 message

[vague burrow]

The diluted packaged fuel is SUCH a pain. It's better to wait, IMHO and do diluted fuel.

[white dawn]

Nah, not at all. The only extra things you have to do is: 1) Create your Blueprint, and then 2) Make sure you've got Empty Canisters automated

[queen slate]

I think with blueprint it won’t be that bad

[white dawn]

Once you've got that done, it's literally one-click-and-done, just like the Phase 4 Blender version

And that way you don't have to wait a whole phase to start taking advantage of the Diluted Fuel loop. No reason to deprive yourself!

[soft marsh]

Working on my blueprint for RF rn, autoconnect is being an ass tho

[white dawn]

I will admit that if you try and manifold your Packages and Packaged Water and stuff along a line of machines, it can be annoying to tune it to get it right

That's something that a lot of folks first doing Packaged Diluted Fuel end up trying; setting up a closed-loop Blueprint isn't necessarily an obvious thing to try

By that point in the game you're probably just blindly manifolding most things and it generally always works. The Packaged Diluted Fuel loop poses some extra challenges to that, though. :D

[queen slate]

Bro is psychic i 90% of the time use manifolds because they so much easier

Factories would take a lot longer for me anyway without manifolds

[golden nexus]

I don't think hes saying not to use manifolds. What he is saying is having a manifold of closed loops.

[queen slate]

Ye u right

[golden nexus]

eg the buildings are manifolded to take crude oil and water ..... but they produce fuel as a whole but they contain refineries, packers, unpackers

[white dawn]

Heh, if you like, yeah; your HOR might be manifolded in. Though honestly there's an argument to be had for even having a single HOR refinery per loop as well. Just direct-feed nearly everything

I tend to have a dedicated Water Extractor for each closed-loop, too (underclocked to suit) so I don't even manifold those typically. :D

[golden nexus]

just an example about clarificaiton for the manifolds... its not a case of "Use balancer" it just more like a sealed abstraction

[white dawn]

Though to be fair, using one Water Extractor per loop will presumably noticeably increase your space requirements for the extractors

[golden nexus]

its not like space is a problem

[white dawn]

Yeah

[real shale]

i am performing a magic trick and turning 3 GW into 75 GW... dont tell electroboom but i think i found free energy

[golden nexus]

how?

[queen slate]

Power dupe glitch

[real shale]

(i was just very inefficient with my very first fuel generators)

(there is no free energy)

HOR and Diluted Fuel my beloved

just have to place..... 300 fuel generators

[queen slate]

Hope you got nowhere to be lol that might take a while

[white dawn]

Heh, I suppose that's one more bit of advice for you, @queen slate -- don't be afraid to overclock your fuel gens, especially when building out "bigger" fuel setups. Gens at 250% will save you a lot of clicking. :) (Also, the 5x5 blueprinter can fit you either 2 or 4 Fuel Gens (including overclock settings), depending on how "tight" you're willing to make your piping)

When doing Diluted setups myself, I actually tend to have each Diluted blueprint output to the exact number of fuel gens it supports, so each one is its own little module

Rather than combining all the fuel into one big pipe and then manifolding it out that way

[queen slate]

Thanks I was going to but I might now,I have plenty of power shards

[queen slate]

Ok I will thx

[white dawn]

I guess what I'm saying is that I tend to modularize the Diluted loop pretty heavily. :D

[golden nexus]

make sense to abstract to modules

[queen slate]

😄 thx for the advice i will try use it

[golden nexus]

Big mistake people make is with things like screws... eg build them all in one place to be used somewhere else

[real shale]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[queen slate]

Sounds like something I’d do

[golden nexus]

have you had any success with making modular motor for example?

[real shale]

d

despite the lower theoretical capacity of normal freight cars i gotta say, fluid freight cars are capable of freeing up a lot of previously used up space lol

[queen slate]

What i did at the start was make and item eg screws then build conveyer lines to another area to make things like reinforced iron plates then I’d split the rip into 2 and ship them off to make rotors or smth

I realized prob a bit later than I should’ve that I should stop doing that

[golden nexus]

I have an odd one where rotor and rplate are exactly the same design

it happens a lot if you mess with underclocking of machines

[hazy void]

if i delete the hub to re locate will i loose the teir progression?

[golden nexus]

no

[hazy void]

ok

[white dawn]

It's actually been quite awhile since I've done larger-scale attempts at modularization to blueprints and such; I tend to just enjoy building stuff out from the ground up

[hybrid nymph]

Hey guys 👋

[white dawn]

Diluted Fuel loops are a bit of an outlier for me. I was thinking I should go heavy on that kind of thing on my next playthrough, though, to shake things up a bit

[real shale]

hello comrade

[golden nexus]

which is more efficent, diluted packaged or the blender alternative later on

like which yields more power

[white dawn]

Can also dismantle/reconstruct the Space Elevator at any time, fwiw. The only annoyance with the HUB is if you're using the built-in storage box to hold anything. :)

[hazy void]

ok thank you

[hybrid nymph]

After doing some experiments with coal generators I have to say that coal generators are a great way to make some power. If you ever have a coal source you got nothing to do with, just setup some coal generators for extra power

[reef basin]

depends what kind of "efficiency" are we talking about

in terms of "oil -> fuel ratio", they are equal

[white dawn]

The Blender version turns out to be more energy-efficient. It outputs 100/min whereas the Packaged version outputs 60/min.

Each Packaged "module" requires less power to run than the Blender does, but since you need more of them, the power-efficiency math works out in the Blender's favor

Though it's not a huge difference, I don't think

[dense violet]

It's a tiny difference

with the advent of blueprints and making a poor man's blender they are essentially teh same now

[white dawn]

Both have the same material ratios, though. The same amount of HOR/Water produces the same amount of fuel

[rustic scroll]

anyone able to help me understand the game a little better and give some pointers for like an hour ?

[dense violet]

where are you at in it?

[rustic scroll]

kinda the start im 6 ish hrs in

[soft marsh]

Finally finished my blueprint for RF, three hours later

[golden nexus]

You best bet is to ask a specific question about a specific area you have issues with in #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

ok then my advice is treat the milestones like a tutorial

You'll learn 10x as much with trial and error than anyone talking at you
come back for specific questions

[rustic scroll]

im just starting out and just trying to make sence of things

[golden nexus]

What area you not making sense about?

[reef basin]

listen to the voice guiding you through the game (ADA). Read codex if you missed info from that voice. Experiment with things. Come here if you have a specific issue and have tried all options you could think of

[soft marsh]

I watched the eff out of ImKibitz on Youtube and he helped a lot

[reef basin]

yeah, wouldn't recommend that

[golden nexus]

People generally are more helpful if you ask a specific questions like "I am struggling to make X, I tried A, B, C"

[reef basin]

wouldn't recommend watching YT, and especially not that channel

[dense violet]

ehhh kibitz doesn't really have a good building sense.
And a ton of videos on yt are pretty bad

[soft marsh]

I didnt have any problems with it 🤷‍♂️

[strong fiber]

Why

[dense violet]

He's an entertainer

[golden nexus]

A lot of youtube is copies of copies.....

[dense violet]

and his piping is terrible

[reef basin]

because his videos are entertainment-based, not learning-based

[soft marsh]

Yeah it was fun to watch and I got a lot of ideas from him.

[strong fiber]

Same

[reef basin]

most likely bad ideas

build your own factory, not someone else's mistakes

[rustic scroll]

mostly how to cleanly optimize manufacturing and how do i keep things powered up i have so many biogenerators and im constantly chassing them to keep them running

[soft marsh]

Tell me you don't actually watch his stuff without telling me you don't watch his stuff. He builds to efficiency just at a mass scale. Nothing wrong with that.

I didnt see anything in his gameplay that was bad.

[dense violet]

you're in the pre tutorial - build things on foundations and you'll get automated power soon enough

[reef basin]

piping 😉

[dense violet]

turn bio fuel into solid bio fuel. More efficient burning

[soft marsh]

I didnt see any bad piping. 🤷‍♂️

[dense violet]

shockingly bad piping. I doubt his systems run in a stable way

[golden nexus]

ok, link his rplate or rotor tutorial video

[strong fiber]

Its better than mine

[reef basin]

then you most likely don't know what "bad piping" is 😉

or what good piping is

[dense violet]

every time I see his videos he's always interconnecting all his systems and slapping valves everywhere

[rustic scroll]

how big of an area sould i be looking at for general soft construction ?

[soft marsh]

Apparently not. I pipe in similar fashions and I dont have any issues with it. I've also not seen him use valves in any of his recent stuff.

[reef basin]

as much as you need to house the amount of machines you're gonna build

[dense violet]

entirely depends on how you like to build 🙂

also, again, don't stress much , tiers 1 and 2 are like a pre tutorial.

you'll probably rebuild everything when you get automated power

[rustic scroll]

sounds good thank you! also is the space tower super important at the beginning ?

[golden nexus]

you need it to progress, but you can move it, destory it as soon as you pull the lever in it after making the parts

avg players have to move the space elevator multiple times

likewise with their hub etc... etc...

[soft marsh]

The one from 6 years ago?

[dense violet]

you only need it to advance phases

you can dismantle it in between

[rustic scroll]

sounds good thank you

[golden nexus]

Well the thing is... he doesn't teach somebody how to build, he shows you what he built. So it doesn't explain how the maths works.

[reef basin]

6 years ago we didn't have pipes

[rustic scroll]

also what do i do with the presents ?

[soft marsh]

I was just searching his channel for the tutorial being referenced, not related to pipes

[dense violet]

it's just a christmas event, I'd ignore it at this point. doesn't really do much

[golden nexus]

ahh the point is for the person stating that hes a good player to get help from... they are meant to provide the viceo 😉

[soft marsh]

Yeah, because he's an entertainer. TotalExclipse or whatever his name is does more teachy videos and I personally can't watch him

[golden nexus]

Cause it doesn't exist....

[reef basin]

I wouldn't recommend any youtubers for learning the game, play through the game on your own instead, you'll learn much more

[white dawn]

There's an Advent calendar in your HUB, and a research tree in your MAM, but yeah, for now I'd recommend ignoring the event, too. IMO it only makes sense to engage with the event once you're past biofuels for power

[golden nexus]

Yeah, his videos are bad in a different way, they are mind numbing to watch because they are often way to basic and very long winded but at least he shows the maths to new players

[white dawn]

The event runs until Jan 17, so you can get it later if you want, so long as you're not moving too slowly. :)

[soft marsh]

I dont care for the math, myself. I don't play for efficiency as I tend to find that way really boring. I make sure the machine has the resource it needs to run without stopping and call it good.

[white dawn]

(you can prevent the gift drops in the meantime by turning off "seasonal events" in the same settings from the main menu)

[reef basin]

I make sure the machine has the resource it needs to run without stopping
that's literally what "efficiency" is in this game

[golden nexus]

was going to say lol

[soft marsh]

Nah lots of players like to do the whole min maxing "This machine needs x amount so Ill split the rest off to go to this machine"

[reef basin]

(and does require math)

[golden nexus]

there is also many ways to messure efficency eg time, scale, space, power, speed, resource usage....

[soft marsh]

Does this machine need ore? Yes? Does it have ore? Yes? Good, next machine.

[reef basin]

yeah but that has nothing relevant to efficiency

[primal obsidian]

omg the points imma get now that im sinking excess superposition oscillators

10m points/min from all those backlogged oscillators but that was backlog now its porbably only gonna get gimme like 100k/m maybe

[soft marsh]

All Im saying is that if you want to look at the numbers and do the math, go for it. I just make sure the little antenna is green and if its not I add more belts/pipes/whatver until its green again lol

[primal obsidian]

good thing that i remembered to add a sink just now my ficsonium relies on this ecess dark matter residue

[reef basin]

... which is optimising for (machine) efficiency 🙂

[golden nexus]

There is another game i play, when peolpe copy the older youtube videos they blow themselves up.... cause the game physics changed, its quite funny.....

[primal obsidian]

ahh i love having a train network that goes almost everywhere

[unkempt blade]

yeah and more factory carts to funmax it!

[gloomy tusk]

Is it safe for me to afk my factory overnight

I boxed myself btw

[dense violet]

I mean if you want, but it's not an idle game. You make plenty of parts while gathering hard drives and other things

or building a new factory

[golden nexus]

yeah, but you probably should not need to actually do that

[feral jay]

No, all factories spontaneously explode after 6 hours and 37 minutes of afk

[gloomy tusk]

Oh no

[trim sundial]

Im SO EXCITED. Ive never been more excited to push a button in a video game then i feel pulling the lever to complete stage two and unlock tiers 5 and 6, LETS GO!

[ornate idol]

hostile creatures will not respawn near powered machinary, in most cases you could afk out in the open indefintely

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that idle crafting is paying microtransactions to your energy provider

[feral jay]

Yeah this is the actual anwer, afk'ing is perfectly safe from a hostile creature standpoint

[gloomy tusk]

Nah my battery can handle overnight without charge

[trim sundial]

I may have jjust done this for the last 3 hours waiting for versatile moduels to finish crafting for stage 2 lol

[gloomy tusk]

I’m just going to leave it afk when I’m not doing anything or sleeping just for more resources for space elevator

After building a second factory I have nothing left 😔

[dense violet]

go explore 😛 get hard drives

[ornate idol]

I've never found the need to afk in this game. I can always find something to build or improve while machines are running elsewhere.

[gloomy tusk]

I’m only on tier 4 btw

[gloomy tusk]

Don’t they only run when rendered

[ornate idol]

no, the whole map is active at all times (this isn't minecraft)

[gloomy tusk]

Oh I see

Ok then thanks

[dense violet]

the game just wouldn't work if thigns didn't run when yo uwere nearby

[ornate idol]

so yeah, explore to your heart's content or work on projects across the map, the factory will keep running.

to expand on Cobalt, by end game you'll (typically) have a map-wide factory that would fall apart if earlier stage machines elsewhere were to stop.

[gloomy tusk]

Bet

My fps is only at 60 currently

Pretty low

[golden nexus]

It will get lower as the game progresses

[gloomy tusk]

But I do have a factory that makes every item currently

[dense violet]

hmm you may need to reduce your graphics soon enough if you're only at the start

[gloomy tusk]

I know

[golden nexus]

every item in the game?

[gloomy tusk]

They are on the lowest 💔

[feral jay]

Enclosing your factories with walls so the belts aren't forced to render can help quite a bit

[trim sundial]

At the same time im terriefied of the logistics i now have to learn and use. I know where theres alot of oil but now i have to figure out how to build on it and use it, and transport it lol

[gloomy tusk]

All base items that I have currently

[dense violet]

process the oil on site and use it there

[gloomy tusk]

The coal node is trapped by a rock is there any other way apart from explosives to remove it

[dense violet]

they are also planning some performance improvements in 1.2 so there's a bit of hope there

[golden nexus]

no, you can abuse hte portable miners to extract a ton of it... but its not automatic obviously

[feral jay]

I'm still over the moon about how much they improved load/save times

[dense violet]

Like don't expect miracle performance, but probably noticeably better

[ornate idol]

by the time I finished my last series (prior to 1.0), I was down to ~25 fps in many areas, it was brutual. I was also on an old 1070 card. I'm hoping the post-launch optimizations keep that from happening again.

[stone moth]

Do any of you guys want to join my game to help me with a pipe problem? My water production per minute matches what it consumes, but it still fills up

[feral jay]

The game is quite playable down to about 15fps

[gloomy tusk]

I’m on a MacBook Air 2020 M1 model

[feral jay]

It's not a game where lightning fast response times are critical

[stone moth]

which is a problem because then my aluminum production completely stops

[ornate idol]

not when you're recording it for content. 😛

[feral jay]

That's true

[gloomy tusk]

Lgo would say otherwise

[ornate idol]

my OCD would never allow me to do what he does.

[stone moth]

My best solution is to bring a pipe all the way back to base and have a sign on it that says, in case of aluminum production stop, pull flush level

[stone moth]

I have a spaghetti factory, just like lgo

[golden nexus]

use priority junction

[stone moth]

I dont think i have that

[stone moth]

how do i unlock

[golden nexus]

you have it

[feral jay]

You don't unlock it, you build it

[golden nexus]

Its 2 pipe juncitons on top of each other

[stone moth]

Haw does it work

[ornate idol]

sounds like you're recycling water. In general, I don't recommend it, but you can overflow water by having a run-off pipe somewhere at a higher elevation than all the machines so it only fills up when everthing else is full, then overflow it into something like wet concrete and sink the production.

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf see page 16

[stone moth]

I dont have that recipie, ive been grinding harddrives to unlock it but im very unlucky

[golden nexus]

pipe on left has priority #screenshots message

[ornate idol]

any recipe that uses water will do, wet concrete just tends to work well for me. As I remember, it eats the most water.

[golden nexus]

as in the left of the 2 input pipes....

[dense violet]

there's a simpler solution for bauxite if you want it?

[stone moth]

Sure, what is it?

[golden nexus]

Tripple it used to be one

[dense violet]

I'll ping you in #math-and-meta

[ornate idol]

also, if you're "grinding" harddrives and can't find a recipe, make sure you're not accepting any of the other recipes. As long as there is a banked drive with an available recipe, those recipes won't show up in other drives.

[stone moth]

Wdym?

[ornate idol]

that little change has actually bit me in the butt since returning to 1.0 because I'm finding too many good recipes before I have the belt speeds to use them.

[feral jay]

If you already have the Biocoal recipe in the hard drive library, it will not show up as a choice when you research other drives, for example

Each recipe can appear only once in the library

[ornate idol]

when you finish research of a drive, it offers you 2 recipes. You can just leave the drive in the list and not accept either recipe. If you do, any future drive you research will not roll either of those recipies. You can quickly eliminate large sets of alternates by doing that.

[feral jay]

But if one of those drives is "Biocoal/CastScrews", and you pick the cast screws recipe, then that deletes that hard drive, and now biocoal can show up as an option again

[subtle swallow]

can someone help me in #dedicated-servers please

[strong fiber]

Thats not a manifold

Thats a 1:3 load balancer

[subtle swallow]

how could i fix it from backing up. make 3 seperate belts?

[golden nexus]

Its also offtopic for the channel... leave that channel alone for dedicated server not in game problems

[subtle swallow]

ill do it rq and show u

[subtle swallow]

my fault g

[golden nexus]

post questions in #1038092680493801533

[strong fiber]

How much iron are you bringing in for your current belt speed

[ornate idol]

that looks more like a load balancer

[subtle swallow]

its backed up. like 100 stays in it 24/7

[golden nexus]

Alo, I can't understand exactly what your expecting, you kinda just printing a statment which is false

[strong fiber]

If you are bringing more iron than your belts can handle then it will back up

[subtle swallow]

yes so would 3 seperate belts would fix it, right?

[golden nexus]

fix what?

[subtle swallow]

iron backing up

in the in miner mk 1

[golden nexus]

ITs a mk1 belt? Or mk2?

[subtle swallow]

1

[golden nexus]

mk1 does 60/min, mk2 does 120/min, mk3 270/min, mk4 480/min

[ornate idol]

no amount of splitting will help if the belt leaving the miner is too slow to keep up with its output

[strong fiber]

Mk 5 780/min

[feral jay]

Mk.32 4,294,967,296/min

[subtle swallow]

well it had 3 going into 1 belt. imma have 3 belts

[formal spindle]

wait there are mark 4 and 5? since when

[strong fiber]

You are trying to feed 9 smelters that take 30/min each with a 60/min belt of iron that can handle two smelters

[feral jay]

And Mk.6

Belts, not miners

[subtle swallow]

this is to much thinking 😭

[formal spindle]

aa

[strong fiber]

The you need 270 iron ore/min

[subtle swallow]

hm alr, thank u

[strong fiber]

And with mk1 belt you can only feed two smelters because it can only carry 60/min

[subtle swallow]

im lowk lost. imma jus make 3 different belts, instead of 3 going into 1

[ornate idol]

also, if doing that math is challenging, there is a calculator built into the game, just press 'N', and type equations into it, it's a super helpful feature.

[subtle swallow]

itll feed better

[subtle swallow]

oooo

[strong fiber]

xbox got no calculator sadly

🙁

[ornate idol]

well, I can't speak to consoles..

[strong fiber]

Gotta use my phone fr

[golden nexus]

There is more subtle way, treat the nodes for one thing at a time. Like make plate on one, make rod on another.....

So plate is like 60 -> split -> (smelter -> construcotr)x2

[subtle swallow]

yes correct. thats what i currently have. rods, plates, screws

[golden nexus]

I can see iny uor screenshot rod is messed up further down

[subtle swallow]

oh, whats wrong again?

[subtle swallow]

picture in dms is my rods

[golden nexus]

This is why its better in #1038092680493801533 cause now I have information the other 200,000 peolpe in the channel do not....

[subtle swallow]

i pinged u

[trim sundial]

I think i lucked out. Where my main...and only factory is...i just did a walk through from my factory to the a nearby bunch of oil spots and while its going to require alot of piping and power cables, the terrain between point A and point be is almost entire level so i should require very little headlift, it seems alot more cost and time effective to just pipe the oil over instead of complicated packageing and transport systems lol

[tall lantern]

usually easier to process fluids close to source and move solids around

[stone moth]

So how do you guys make your factories early game? do you have each resource in a container near your base, or do you have them near where you produce the stuff

[trim sundial]

I will probably get there eventually but i think i will get frustrated with the transport network right now. The intial oil pipeline to my base i think will just allow me to start making the new parts, once i unlock the things from tier 5 and 6 ill have ways to upgrade my oil stuff.

Although...my own logic...the terrain is flat...i can just lay foundations in two straight lines from point A to point B for flat vehicle ground travel...

[feral jay]

Foundations are for cheaters

Live dangerously

[stone moth]

I started a new game with my friend because we couldnt deal with our spaghetti factory, so we want to know how to not make a spaghetti factory

[feral jay]

By making lasagna factories

[stone moth]

That joke was bad, and you should feel bad.

[feral jay]

Well it's true. If you design your factories in layers, you innately avoid a lot of spaghetti issues

[primal obsidian]

foundations probably

idk

[feral jay]

Also foundations

[sterile blade]

One way is to rework the spaghetti until it's not spaghetti.
Eventually, you rework less and less before you're satisfied with the result (assuming your standards don't rise eveb faster in the meantime...)

[primal obsidian]

have you tried manifolds as well they're really cool and awesome

[feral jay]

Or as the old saying goes, Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

[stone moth]

It's lets game it out levels of spaghetti, i dont have time to unspaghetti

[feral jay]

Well you can always just build new, and then mass delete

[sterile blade]

Didn't you say you're in a new game?

[stone moth]

Ohhh you're talking about the new game

i thought you were talking about the old one

[sterile blade]

You were looking for suggestions about the new one and not the old, right?

[nova ridge]

Is ther a setting to decrease wobbling in hypertubes? going th rough it makes me dizzy

[primal obsidian]

doing my biggest factory yet im gonna do 40/min RCU

20/min for nuclear pasta 10/min for turbo motors and 10/min for uploading

[feral jay]

That bugs me too, I've never found a setting for that, but I do find that looking around at the scenery with the mouse helps

[nova ridge]

yeah jsut not directlys taring at it

[sick falcon]

WHAT

[ornate idol]

yeah, it's a nice hidden feature

[feral jay]

The whole hypertube view is a bit of a hack that took them a while to work out, because it switches from first person to third person at some points, and the camera needs to follow you. I remember them talking about how hard it was to code on a dev stream sometime ago

[ornate idol]

which drives me nuts because I really dislike the 3rd person view of the tube. I'd much much rather it be 1st person.

[feral jay]

Yeah I stack my tubes, so what I actually get is basically a first person view of the tube on top of me

[golden nexus]

You get odd problems like what happens when it goes though a wall or ground or stuff like that

[ornate idol]

I know there's a mod, I just haven't tried it yet.

[feral jay]

Which defeats the whole purpose of the third person view imo

[ornate idol]

actually, I did once take advantage of the 3rd person tube camera by sinking a tube under a walkway so it looked like I was flying down the walkway at high speed.

[nova ridge]

might try teleport or something in the future to avoid this lol

i already play at 1200x800 because full screen makes me dizzy

[feral jay]

haha I tried the game once stretched across three screens

[golden nexus]

first person in one, 3rd person in the other?

i wonder if there could be a VR mod for the game 😛

[feral jay]

3240x1080

THAT was dizzying

[feral jay]

There already is one

[leaden turret]

🥽

[feral jay]

I can't speak to how good it is or isn't though

[primal obsidian]

i play on that the whole day (basically) 3440x1440

[nova ridge]

does different fuel time increasing how much airtime i get with jet?

[feral jay]

It was too much for me, plus I like to have a tools screen in a browser, and shoot the shit about the game on the third screen

[feral jay]

yes, all the fuels have different properties, biofuel has the longest burn time, rocket fual has the fastes vertical ascent speed, etc

[nova ridge]

hm k

[feral jay]

I just use liquid biofuel, basically 100% of the time

[primal obsidian]

what bout ionized i never made it yet even though i finished the game

[feral jay]

ooh I forgot about that

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Jetpack#Distance_flown_by_fuel_type

Above that is a table with vertical speed

[primal obsidian]

oh wow its the best by far more burn time then biofuel with a little less vertical speed then rocket

[feral jay]

Flight times are assuming you feather the jump key

[primal obsidian]

i should unlock that with these excess hds i have after getting all alts

[feral jay]

Once I have liquid biofuel I never really use any other fuel for the jetpack - it's good enough, there's very little other use for it, and I always automate it anyway

And, it's relatively simple to automate, you just need to feed the factory the biomatter/remains/mycelia whataver manually as you collect it

[trim sundial]

I feel like opening a question thread for this one is kinda silly, pumps dont increase speed along pipes right? Only lift? So putting a pump along a long mostly level pipe line is pointless?

[feral jay]

They do not, and it's not a silly question, a lot of new players have that question, it's not explained very well in-game

The only thing they affect is how high you can send liquids

(and they also act as a valve)

[sullen gull]

It has been shown that they can provide a "work pressure" apparently.

[feral jay]

Perhaos, but for someone just startting out and coming here with this question, the simple answer is good enough. They do not affect flow rates.

[trim sundial]

Good to know. Well i have oil going to my factory now, is it optimal? No but its a gateway pipe line until i can unlock more of 5+6 lol

[feral jay]

There is a pressure mechanic in the game, but it's a hidden mechanic

[trim sundial]

...so i shouldnt have overclocked my oil extractor to produce 600 per min through my 300 pipeline? Imagines massive oil leaks and pipes breaking causing a big oil disaster on the planet and having to pay for it out of my Ficsit paycheck

[real shale]

#screenshots message We are all good here

[feral jay]

Hahaha, it'll just run at 50%

[trim sundial]

I know its over board but since the length of the pipeline is massive i figure safer then sorry lol

[feral jay]

Also, avoid long pipes like the plague

They get... difficult, when you make them very long

[sullen gull]

No, they don't

[hasty stump]

today i accidentally discovered the cyber wagon, i meant to feed my spare coupons to a depot but i put them in the wrong container and they went to the sink instead 🤣

[feral jay]

Again, this is advice for new players. I can handle pipes that span the entire map fine, but it's not something I recommend to new players

[sullen gull]

I've run pipes from the spire coast to the swamp. All pipe. Zero issues.

[ocean frost]

For all the new people what do you do piples that lets you span the entire map just fine?

[sullen gull]

Keep them flat.

[feral jay]

Yes first and foremost, keep them flat

[sullen gull]

Get up to a height, and run,

[feral jay]

Or you could run them only downhill

[ocean frost]

why not just say that instead.

[feral jay]

Because that is not the inly issue people have with long pipes

[real shale]

#screenshots message Okay, I have 6000 fuel/min, just gotta plop down the fuel generators now

[feral jay]

The other major problem I see people face is that they take ages to fill up, so problems take ages to manifest, which makes troubleshooting time consuming and difficult

[ocean frost]

people will always have problems with pipes.

[feral jay]

If you don't take sloshing into account it will also take a long time even just for the flow to stabilize

[golden nexus]

belts give a visual reference something is wrong, its also uni directional, pipes remove that, your maths has to be correct and you don't get the same visual feedback at all

[feral jay]

Then, when there are problems... yes that ☝️

[real shale]

now, i need to find somewhere to place 300 fuel generators lol

[feral jay]

WHen problems do happen, they are not visually apparent as they are with belts

[gritty zealot]

Hi pioneers, who's up factorising right now? I couldn't do any factorising myself today and it would really help me sleep if someone told me about their factorisation experience today

[sullen gull]

Or just put fluids in a loop. Main line stays full, none of this "sloshing" 🤷‍♂️

[leaden turret]

Or just package all the things, can use smart splitters to route overflow to control where you want fluid to be better

[golden nexus]

Also often the problems are mixed with multiple other problems like a coal gen coal manifold not up to speed, or the 300/min limit or height issues... you get a mix of problems

[cerulean dawn]

anyone know where i can find SAM

[golden nexus]

below giant arch

[feral jay]

There's a whole host of reasons why pipes are more difficult to work with than belts, and making pipes longer seriously exacerbates that problem

[golden nexus]

I just rail it

[cerulean dawn]

wheres that? i’m not exactly used to the map yet.

been following the game for years but i’ve only just started playing it on console

[dense violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IjuSycXjqM

[feral jay]

There's a giant arch in the grasslands, the first recommended "easy" starting location

[gritty zealot]

South east

[dense violet]

but also , what starting location have you started in?

[cerulean dawn]

ah, thank you all

[golden nexus]

Well the maps is quite large, I had to guess your current/starting location

[cerulean dawn]

except you, you know what’s you did sir

[feral jay]

BTW, welcome! We love new players here!

Well except those dirty console players 😛

[dense violet]

Entertain everyone? Guilty 😛

[golden nexus]

follow the purple belt #screenshots message

assuming you started in the grass fields

[cerulean dawn]

i did, mainly out of habit of seeing youtubers start there

[hushed ibex]

bro why are the trucks so bad in this game, they dont follow the path u make at all and just randomly f off

[real shale]

my crater biome is about to become literally just fuel generator.... nothing more... just FUEL

[feral jay]

You're doing it wrong, you need to use ||the cybertruck||

[ocean frost]

They are waiting for the Full Self Driving update

[cerulean dawn]

i’ve nevee had tbat problem

and mine treck through shreks swamp lake

[trim sundial]

I will say one thing, this game is both helping me get over my hate of "Oh thats clipping it looks terrible" but its also making my "it has to be placed perfectly" way worse

[cerulean dawn]

i love organisation.

but i gave up as clearly i’m way to un orgasnises to play the game properly with the amount of stuff it wants me to do.

i made a coal power plant, that is neat and tidy.

my main factory… well that’s worse than americas detroit

[feral jay]

I'm building out my ammo factory, that one always turns into a bit of spaghetti

[trim sundial]

Ive rebuilt my automation floor 3 times already and now that i have oil and way more stuff to make, its about to get a fourth. Im trying to reduce my "tree branchs" I have 6 iron and 6 copper ingot smelters, those feed my main line, then i have a bunch of branchs off that line that make basic things like iron plates, sheets, and the assembler required stuff but because some assembly things require different things every "branch" is a different length and uneaven and its driving me nuts

Let me show you in screenshots

[feral jay]

I usually have a "basic parts" factory also that makes plates/rods/beams/pipes/etc, and that one is also disorganized usually

Everything else tends to be rather well laid out for me

The basic parts factory is just used to make construction materials though, so the mess doesn't spread like a virus to other factories

[cerulean dawn]

my basic parts turned into a spaghetti mess when phase 2 started.

but i plan to rebuild that factory on a later date and start a mini temp main base until i get that one sorted

it does it’s job, just doesnt make rods anynore sadly

[feral jay]

More organized than my contruction materials factory lol

[cerulean dawn]

makes steel beam, pipes.
iron nails, plates which get turned into reinforced plates.

then that gets mixed with some ingredient to make the smart plates.

then i got another setup requiring copper wire and steel pipes to make rotors

[hushed ibex]

i wish it was a specific path they copied instead of nods, just isnt a great system especially when your trying to make it follow a road

[trim sundial]

The thing is...my basic parts...i have thousands of them, i dont really need that many so ive been contemplating a stacked series of belts with basic parts running down a line somewhere and then constructers and assemblers pulling from that, the thing is..i dont think its practical because i would need like 10 stacked conveyer belts and just think it would look weird

[feral jay]

I just finished a power plant and I think each individual wall needed like 3000 concrete

THen I realized I overbuilt the whole thing by a factor of 2 lol

[trim sundial]

I am expanding my factory foundations though and as i place them i realise i can add at least like 1000 foundations more before i hit the mountains on every side so...its not like i dont have room for a big ugly un even factory

[ocean frost]

Tractors entered development 8 years ago, its a feature of its time, they got better with trains, and eventually drones, love how you can see drone port inventory on the map.

[hasty stump]

if you're hitting mountains then you didn't build it high enough 😁

[hushed ibex]

do we have a rough eta on trucks getting brought upto speed ?

[ocean frost]

game is complete brother

[trim sundial]

True lol. Im getting there though, actually i think i can complete my zipline research now. Its ok though my factory should get one big redesign right now. I get the feeling im going to be in tier 5 and 6 for quite some time.

I think all i need to do is rotate my factory 90 degrees lol

[sick falcon]

when are we getting solar and wind energy

[feral jay]

There will not be solar and wind, ever

THere's a mod for that though

[leaden turret]

hydro power was a maybe, because there's limited spots on the map where it makes sense

[trim sundial]

Am i going to get fired if i dismantle my space elevator for awhile? Im not where near ready to begin pumping in stage 3 materials lol

[feral jay]

Yeah I could get on board with Hydro power, but I'm happy with the way they just expanded geothermal instead, it serves the same purpose

[leaden turret]

although I'm still salty that they won't answer the question of molten solar

-# pun intended because the molten part is molten salt

[leaden turret]

expanded geothermal as in "make it actually worthwhile to invest time in" ? 😛

[hasty stump]

nah, it won't affect anything, i move mine sometimes if i need to expand into the space it's occupying

move hub when you feel like it, for the same reason

[feral jay]

Speak for yourself, I invest in geothermal and build a mapwide power grid just for it, used for emergency auxilliary power or to charge backup battery banks

[trim sundial]

I just did something im not proud of...might have invovled some nobelisk and an indigineous bird....

[twin forge]

does anyone know how to make a 4 to 5 load balancer

[leaden turret]

I was referring to the max generation capacity for geothermal being underwhelming

[feral jay]

But is it really useful, I'd say no, to be honest

Yeah the generation capacity is underwhelming

[twin forge]

no?

[leaden turret]

basic maths

[feral jay]

Its utility is limited because it's just not a lot of power, and to really use it well, you need to connect a mapwide grid up to it

[twin forge]

im not that smart

[sudden flint]

heavy oil residue is an unfairly edible and tasty-looking shade of purple

[leaden turret]

why you wanna eat purple

[placid stirrup]

At the earliest point you can automate the parts for it, it should be a really nice boost in generation. You unlock energy storage around the same time too

[real shale]

pipes, pipes everywhere

[sudden flint]

graype kanny 🤤

[real shale]

me reminding myself that whatever happens in the logistics floor, stays in that floor

[leaden turret]

the tell-tale heart, but spaghett

[real shale]

theres so many pipes here that i actually have to crouch to get in at them

#screenshots message

[sick falcon]

why :(

[real shale]

Because it goes against what the games narrative is

you are there to destroy the planet and exploit it for everything it has, renewable energy goes against that idea

[feral jay]

Because it would be tantamount to free and unlimited power, and one of the game's primary design principles is that resources must be consumed to create power

It would efectively remove power generation as a challenge to be overcome

[sick falcon]

there’s free and unlimited iron should that be removed too

[feral jay]

No there isn't, you need to consume ore to create ingots

That is unlimited, but not free

Everything in the game is created by consuming some other thing, with the exception of primary ores

[white dawn]

Various statements from the community managers about it, fwiw: https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/power-management/green-energy/

[real shale]

okay i am starting to see just how many fuel generators 300 might be lol

[white dawn]

If you do want solar/wind/etc there's mods, of course. :)

[feral jay]

That's another way to put it, this has been requested ad infinitum, and it has been emphatically stated dozens of times, solar/wind/green power will never appear in the game

[white dawn]

Or just "No power required" in your AGS settings. :)

[sick falcon]

thats a thing? 😭

[feral jay]

There's also mods that remove the need for wires, if that's your issue

[real shale]

i may need multiple floors of fuel generators huh

[feral jay]

You almost always eventually do

[teal geyser]

Even after overclocking your gens, you need 300?

[spare bolt]

||what if the pioneer is a lich?||

[dense violet]

the game is based around constant and stable production - it would completely change how people play the game if resource nodes were limited

free power, that takes up no resources would absolutely break everything

just play in creative mode if that's what you want

[spare bolt]

||satisphylactery||

[real shale]

no, this is without overclock, its 120 with, but i want to cover the entire crater in fuel generators

[teal geyser]

Sounds despicable. I love it!

[real shale]

all this for 75 GW

[feral jay]

I mean they could require solar or wind power to consume something but that just wouldn't make sense as it doesn't IRL, and it would add no compelling element to the game

[teal geyser]

And my almost-operational fuel power plant seems like a baby compared to you. 64 overclocked generators to provide 40 GW

I keep getting distracted

[real shale]

this is with me getting distracted lmao

albeit, i kinda do need that power, i've built so much and i've still so much more to build for phase 4 lmao

[ocean frost]

Free power is basically the power auugmentor

[teal geyser]

At the cost of da sloops! Haha

[real shale]

#screenshots message I really need to start exploiting the top right part of the map

[feral jay]

w00t! 3.5 million Ficsmas gifts stockpiled!

I should be able to hit 5 million before the event ends

[ocean frost]

how cool would it be if it turns into coal at the end of the event

[feral jay]

And take away my presents?

I would write a very sternly worded letter to Ficsit

[real shale]

#screenshots message U bend my beloved

[gloomy tusk]

Is anybody here my age (14) or are you all grown ups

[feral jay]

People of all ages play the game, my 8 year old nephew plays it and loves it, but I imagine at this time that most 14 year olds on the west coast of North America are in bed, and that's probably a large portion of the players in the chat here

So yea chances are you can find people your age in here

[tranquil zinc]

If I am reading the wiki correctly, having higher miner mk will extract more ore even if its pure? I thought pure is flat 120 per minute?

or am I misunderstanding?

[silver lava]

just wondering is this game cross play?

[strong fiber]

Mk 1 extracts 120 mk2 is 240 mk3 is 480

[gloomy tusk]

Nice because none of my irl friends play

[feral jay]

Yea you're reading it right, an impure node is 50% of a normal node, a pure nod is 200%, and a higher level miner will extract twice as much as the previous level

[leaden pond]

Unfortunately its not

[real shale]

oh my, i am going to need a LOT of rubber huh lmao

[silver lava]

damn

thanks tho

[tranquil zinc]

I see, I thought I did not need to uprade the miners since I thought its a 120 for pure

[feral jay]

Nah it'll still double the output when you upgrade the miner (or thereabouts)

[leaden pond]

I just hit aluminum and omg so much to balance lmao

[strong fiber]

You recycling water?

[feral jay]

lol neither do any of mine, so I bought the game for my nephews so I'd have someone to play it with (well and to spend some more time with them, they live a fair distance away so I don't see them much)

[leaden pond]

Yeah I was figuring it out on the satisfactory calculator. Then I'll build it

[strong fiber]

Its alot harder than it looks

[gloomy tusk]

Yeah nice I just wish (apart from my online friends) someone I actually knew well played the game

[leaden pond]

I figured but its a good start point of reference

[gloomy tusk]

Anyone know if I should wait for no 3 to upgrade my conveyer belts or make them mk 2 now

[strong fiber]

“All i gotta do is feed this water into the refineries” (5 minutes later) “Why the FUCK is the water backing up”

[ocean frost]

I just pipe the fresh water back in but its not for everyone

[ocean frost]

its just a skill issue

[feral jay]

Mk.2 needs reinforced plates which is kinda expensive, Mk.3 uses steel beams, which are a lot easier to make in my experience, so I usually skip to Mk.3

[leaden pond]

Damn lmao, that was me when I was first trying to figure out turbofuel I can only imagine what this is going to be like

[feral jay]

Unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade specific belts, anyway

I mean, in general, don't bother upgrading them unless there's a reason to

[gloomy tusk]

I can only support 3 coal burners rn

I need the coal to get there faster

[feral jay]

ohhh, yeah it'll be worth it for those belts

[gloomy tusk]

Also I need a better miner

[strong fiber]

You using sloppy alumina and pure aluminum ingot for alternates?

[gloomy tusk]

How many different miners are there

[feral jay]

3️⃣

[leaden pond]

I'm out looking for hard drives rn lmao

[real shale]

okay, first set of 30 fuel generators done, only 9 more to go....

[gloomy tusk]

You said that the second miner is twice as good as the first correct?

[feral jay]

I just automated homing ammo, hard drive hunting's gonne get a lot easier now

[feral jay]

yeah https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Miner#Mining_speed

[gloomy tusk]

Well then wouldn’t that mean that I could support double coal generators as I can currently

[feral jay]

If you pull twice as much coal and water, yes

[gloomy tusk]

With miner mk 2

[gloomy tusk]

Ok great thanks

[feral jay]

Six generators are relatively easy to set up, but as soon as you hook up seven, they need 315 water/min, but a Mk.1 pipe can only carry 300, so you need to get creative

[lyric basalt]

well :/ ive unlocked all the tiers and almost done the last space elevator stuff ... been playing this playthrew for like 2 years now on n off as i learnd a bunch of different building types and with the new mk blueprinter ive been making things that kinda make me ponder .. O.o with that scim tool can i just nuke my map and begin from clean world with all my mk6 belts and harddrives read and shtuff lol

[feral jay]

You wouldn't be the first actually

[real shale]

That moment when im dealing with a new power plant and i wanna make sure the first set works as intended before i add more sets but i gotta wait for any problems to surface before i add anymore sets

[lyric basalt]

yea i was going threw and like .. to change the path of 400 cars and hope threw a bunch of machines fed and balanced with mk4 and mk5 belts lol ...

[feral jay]

I keep wanting to try a new game+ with this map: https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/megaprints/index/details/id/1364/name/Low+Impact+World+Rail+%26+New+Game+Plus

Never actually do it though

[dense violet]

why would you use someone else's rail to define where things will go? those are also... pretty ugly

[feral jay]

Haven't looked into it that much yet but it seems like a neat thing to try to me, meybe there'sw better maps for that

[dense violet]

and it looks like a bunch of single lane track? eh

[feral jay]

Oh, yeah, that's a lot of single lane track

ew

[granite dome]

When is there supposed to be a new update?

[dense violet]

next year

probably

[granite dome]

Yeah I know that but when next year or do we not have a date yet

[feral jay]

THey've never provided hard dates

Think like Q1/Q2 2026

[dense violet]

if everything goes well

[granite dome]

Alr I’m new so just wondering ,I’m in phase 3 rn

[feral jay]

It's a good thing about this game actually, the releases are never rushed

[teal geyser]

Silly question, but can power shards be uploaded to DA CLOUD (Dimensional Depot) ?

[feral jay]

yes

[lyric basalt]

bruh my playthrough is from 2023 and all the updates they just added stuff to your map .. these devs are actual goats

[severe pewter]

Does the Ficsit gift drop rate taper off as more and more are found?

[feral jay]

They stop dropping once ||you've built 10 gift trees||, but otherwise no

[teal geyser]

Not sure about the drop rate, but they stop falling from the sky completely once you build the ||Gift Trees||

[real shale]

i love how fluids decide the second you go "oh maybe theres zero issue" to start showing issues lmao

[inner echo]

Just finished building 256 refineries for copper ingots for powder...perhaps the third time I have...And got down to again noticing the measly number of constructors needed...just 16 at 200 percent...and...only just now realized this is what sloops are for.

[real shale]

Made a mistake and ended up load balancing one of my pipes rather than running it in a manifold

caused half my generators to just nope out lmao

[severe pewter]

I understand most of the fluid physics bugs, but it doesn't make them any less annoying

[dense violet]

you generally can't 'load balance' fluids unless you do it very specifically. And it's not worth it

[severe pewter]

It does make the bugs sometimes and somewhat useable however

[dense violet]

the only current issue afaik is a flow problem on load? for some people anyway. I don't see it in m ysaves

otherwise it's people who don't learn the basics

[real shale]

Yeah I just mistakenly placed one of my HOR pipes in the middle of my two blender sets making diluted fuel, fixed it and ran it into a manifold and it stopped my generators tripping off

[feral jay]

There are no bugs, only features 😛

[severe pewter]

The fluids are built to slosh, and that's where most of the issues stem from. The rest are pipe overhang and fluids trying to slosh backwards, and the way fluids + sloshing handle slopes and corners

[real shale]

and with that, the second set of 30 fuel generators is switched on... only 8 more to go.... yay...

[severe pewter]

There are still math issues causing fluid to disappear in large constructions, which I think was one of the things the devs were trying to fix

Oh yeah, and uneven splitting, last time I checked, was still messed up

[dense violet]

disapearing fluid was a bug from like... u6

that was cleared up 2 years ago I think

[severe pewter]

It's absolutely still there

[feral jay]

I haven't seen it in years, and I do some pretty wackadoodle liquid setups

[dense violet]

the only actual fluid but I've heard since 1.0 existing while in this server is the on load flow rate drop that seemed to affect NPPs of some people.
I saw mcgal talking about something similar a bit ago but I was under the impression it was fixed.

other than that there's a couple weird things like some junctions giving you infinite lift? but I don't really classify that

This is ofc on PC.
No idea what is going on on console

[severe pewter]

It happens with self-feeding uneven setups requiring a fair amount of splitting, merging, and especially check valves

[dense violet]

.... yeah ok you're using valves and calling back flow management 'bugs'.

[feral jay]

Well there's you problem, valves cause more problems than they solve

[dense violet]

the easiest way to manage pipes is to NOT have tons of merging, splitting, and valves

those are 3 things to just not do

[severe pewter]

I agree, but sometimes it becomes necessary

[dense violet]

it absolutely does not

send fluids from point A to point B

don't merge or split it with any other groups. Very easy

[feral jay]

Almost every liquid system in the game can be entirely self contained

[dense violet]

Every*. Just design it that way

[dense violet]

Now is it possible to run pipes like that? absolutely. But you have to be aware of the headache you're causing yourself

[feral jay]

Well yea I can't think of one that isn't, so...

[severe pewter]

I said what I said

[feral jay]

What some people call "bugs" when they do wacky fluid setups is simply the precision limits inherent in the game, the engine just isn't able to model extremely complex setups

[dense violet]

look, just ping me next time you're designing a fluid system. I'll help.
but you can't do all of the basic 'don't do this' and then complain about pipe issues

in one sentence you described a nightmare pipe scenario

[severe pewter]

Nah, I know how to use fluids. I'm just saying they're a pain to manipulate

[dense violet]

"It happens with self-feeding uneven setups requiring a fair amount of splitting, merging, and especially check valves"

^ you're making them a pain to manipulate

[feral jay]

No, they're not, not when you understand how to work with them

[merry current]

is there any rhyme or reason on why sometimes the first time a machine produces something with somersloops installed, it still only produces one of them instead of double? It does work properly other times, so I don't know if it is the order in which I set things up (setting the recipe, installing the sloops, adding the mats, powering it)

[dense violet]

just how it is

[feral jay]

If you're making "uneven setups requiring a fair amount of splitting, merging, and especially check valves", and then complaining about "bugs" you do not know how to use fluids

They are not bugs, they are accuracy limits

ANd there's a big difference there

[dense violet]

Like this is me doing a dumb by having high flow pipes be bottom fed
but each section is a dedicated feed point A to B. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1452890761535160350/unknown_91.png?ex=69535e76&is=69520cf6&hm=8c6323ac688f578c852b3a5c923d9aaf99fdd74f2126c39033a29fe2618f13ed&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

if you know the basics, you can bend the rules

[severe pewter]

I've also played older 3D games where accuracy, or the lack there of, caused me to fall through the floor while walking. I fail to see how this is different

[dense violet]

completely different games and all the behaviours of pipes come from

1. flow to least filled section
2. prefer to flow down (liquids)

you're talkign about actual problems

[feral jay]

Haha that's happened to me in this game too, with tube cannons, going so fast across the map that I arrive at my destination before the ground is rendered

[real shale]

#screenshots message Only 210 more to go :D

[feral jay]

Also keep in mind that pipes were an afterthought afaik, the game wasn't designed from the ground up to include them, so a good number of basic assumptions the game was engineered with had to be re-evaluated

They'll never be that great

[feral jay]

Damn, for power builds that big, I've spliced them in with SCIM before

[real shale]

its beauitful

although i might have to have 150 fuel generators split between two floors

[severe pewter]

I imagine with a bit of tweaking, and probably some in-code cheating, they could work like magic, but until then~

Back to Somersloop hunting

[feral jay]

I do remember 600/min pipes being buggy for years, it took a while to work the major bugs out

The game just couldn't calculate it all accurately enough for a while

Oh god and the floor holes for pipes, that annoyed the crap outta me

Wasn't one proposed solution to just nerf the pipes to 500/min or so for a while?

[dense violet]

that was likely the fluid deletion bug happening.
otherwise looping them fixed them up as normal.

for a long time people over produced each step to make up for hte deletion

[feral jay]

Yeah I wouldn't have been able to do this "all machines must run at 100%" challenge if that hadn't been fixed

[strong fiber]

thats a crazy challenge

[feral jay]

It's interesting

You really need to change the way you design a few things

Just for the troubleshooting ability

At some point I'm betting I'll need to redesign things because the game is only accurate to 4 decimal places, so a 1 and ⅓ production rate is technically impossible

[strong fiber]

cooked

[severe pewter]

.333 + .333 + .334?

[feral jay]

Yeah exactly, if a machine normally produces 30 widgets a minute, it's not possible to make it produce exactly 40 per minute, you can only get it to produce 39.999 per minute

Because the input field for the clock rate is limited to 4 decimals

[dense violet]

it is if the previous step isn't repeating decimals.
just round up the 4th decimal and over the course of infinity it'll average out

[feral jay]

That would make it produce 40.002 widgets a minute, so the machine would be idle 0.2% of the time, assuming machines further down the chain only accept that much

[severe pewter]

Cause that's how I've been running it

[feral jay]

Or something like that

A lot of it can be solved with sinks in any case, but then sinks don't have a constant power draw

They only consume power while sinking, and I can't find any documentation that details exactly how long a sink will draw power for each thing it conumes

[severe pewter]

What about geothermal power?

[dense violet]

it would only idle the rare time it runs out of material. but because the exact number is being fed, it'll produce what you need

[feral jay]

Yeah and that's what I mean by "all machines must run at 100%" - they can never idle

[feral jay]

Power production isn't a part of this challenge, just consumption

[severe pewter]

Hmm

[feral jay]

Consumption should always be equal to max consumption

(after variable power draws like accelerators/trains/drones/sinks are filtered out)

[severe pewter]

Okay so yeah, what about geothermal power? Because that would provide a fluctuating amount of power to use

-or is that a constant built to look like a fluctuation, I never checked

[feral jay]

That doesn't matter, they don't affect how much power I actually use, there's just more available, I'm not saying that I must use all power I produce, just that no machine can ever idle

Although... that would also be an interesting challenge

The typical approach to most factories is to overproduce everything, and merge all overproduction to a sink line

[severe pewter]

Ahh. -If you ever want to try a fun challenge (if you like math) - I don't know if this actually exists anywhere, but - may I suggest trying to run every output on a shared line, or using as few as possible? It does tend to require the use of sinks

It also introduces the issues of belt sloshing

[feral jay]

Actually that's a much better title for the challenge I'm attempting - "No Idling"

[feral jay]

Past tier 7 or 8 or so that would probably become pretty unrealistic

[severe pewter]

Probably, I haven't started it yet, but I've seen some of the builds. Even just for 1-6 though, it's still a process.

[strong fiber]

Yall doing al these challenges while i havent even beaten the game yet

[feral jay]

Like every factory has multiple sinks in this playthrough, and every single sink needs a buffer container in front of it, otherwise I can't shut down the sinks to troubleshoot, because the factories they're sinking will back up

If I shut down the variable power draws and then notice a 3.9MW power fluctuation, there's a constructor somewhere that's idling from time to time

[severe pewter]

Don't worry, I haven't yet either. Just been taking my sweet time.

[feral jay]

THen it's a matter of shutting down factories individually to poinpoint the exact factory

When that fluctuation disappears, I've found it

It's actually really cool when from my base in the rocky desert, I can identify a single factory in the grasslands, with a single constructor not hooked up

[severe pewter]

-if you have battery power attached to each separate factory, then simply disconnecting a section would be enough to check it wouldn't it?

[feral jay]

Yes and that's why every factory has a battery backup, so I can shut it down and inspect the power draw individually

er not shut it down, but disconnect it from the grid

It really does force a different way of designing things, which is nice because I've been playing this game for I think 7 years now and I'm a bit stuck in my ways

[real shale]

Oh...that's another thing I can add to this massive blue crater power plant, power storage..... Lots of power storage

[feral jay]

It's Ficsmas® time, you should be building gift storage

[real shale]

I should be building the remaining 150 fuel generators but I'm taking a break at the minute because the game told me to

[severe pewter]

It's almost done, but I need more somersloops

[feral jay]

I've got most of those saved for temporary project part assembly rushing

Haven't explored too far beyond the rocky desert this save

[severe pewter]

#design-and-architecture message

[real shale]

I've just realised, after these 300 fuel generators I have another 72 to connect

[vague burrow]

I recently did a rocket fuel powerplant with 648 fuel generators. Thank goodness for blueprints.

[real shale]

Oh I've been doing this all without blueprints, well at least for the fuel generator side anyway

[vague burrow]

Oof. I've done that before. it's rough.

[feral jay]

Blueprints kinda suck for building out massive powerplants

Well unless you use a larger blueprint mod

[real shale]

MK2 Blueprint maker isn't big enough for what I need, if I had Mk3 I might have been able to get away with it

[feral jay]

That sounds like a you problem

:p

[real shale]

No, you can only fit exactly 4 fuel generators in, and because I've got mine facing each other to manifold the pipes.... It doesn't fit into mk2

[feral jay]

(I'm quoting ADA trolling the players)

[real shale]

I haven't heard that one before

[feral jay]

When you unloack one of the blueprint designers, the devs put stuff in there joking about how only weak players need blueprints and if the designer isn't big enough, well, that's a you problem

Because they caved after years of players requesting blueprints

[real shale]

Oh wow, without blueprints id have suffered, i have one blueprint to help trek pipes and belts over long distances and it's saved me so much time

[feral jay]

Look, whippersnapper, back in MY day, we didn't even have zoop

[real shale]

Sounds like a horrible day to live

[hasty stump]

even just the ability to blueprint hypertube cannons is priceless

[feral jay]

Every single last thing had to be placed by hand

[real shale]

That sucks

[feral jay]

Go back far enough and there weren't even conveyor lifts yet

People had some... interesting solutions for that

[hasty stump]

i can't even imagine playing without dimensional depots, let alone zoop and lifts

[dense violet]

dds are... meh. You just made logistics to move a ton of things. More reasons for trains

[feral jay]

Not having DDs wasn't that big a deal, you just kept supply dumps around the map, and one of your chores was filling them back up. A lot of players also used supply trains

Oh this is annoying too, machines will still count towards max power draw even if they're turned off

[whole drum]

As someone who doesn't like to fuss with vehicles much, DDs are an absolute blessing

[severe pewter]

Designated Drivers?

[whole drum]

Sure, why not?

[feral jay]

Nah he just doesn't drive the cybertruck enough

[whole drum]

No one does, lol

[severe pewter]

-one of the biggest trolls of this game is when you're wandering around scavenging, reach a new area, check for enemies, and seeing none, land.

Only for the monsters to suddenly spawn in.

[whole drum]

I was disappointed that there were no achievement for the holiday event

[severe pewter]

Or they could give the cane some extra smack at least

[whole drum]

I don't care about melee weapons, so that wouldn't change anything for me

Once I have rebar gun, I never use melee again

[feral jay]

Once I have homing ammo, I never use any other ammo

With the exception of turbo ammo to dispatch errant beans

[whole drum]

I'm not even a fan of homing, tbh. Regular rifle ammo is quite good as is.

[feral jay]

homing ammo is great for spider armies

[whole drum]

So are nobs or explosive rebar

[feral jay]

lots of small targets

yeah but I don't like destroying the foliage if I can avoid it, it's a beautiful map

[quick barn]

Same

[whole drum]

Ah, I wreck the landscape, lol

I like my clear sight lines

[quick barn]

Though I just learned explosive rebar is basically a rocket launcher. I dont think I'll make another noob now

[feral jay]

If I really need to cut things down I have a chainsaw mod installed

[severe pewter]

I hate spiders. But usually one or two well placed cluster nobelisks does the trick

[whole drum]

It's so useful

[feral jay]

Even the gas nobs can just make them scatter

[quick barn]

I just got chased outta the pink Forrest by two massive stingers

[whole drum]

Gas nobs are really bad

[feral jay]

They scare things away is basically all they do

[whole drum]

The fact that I carry cluster nobs should do that inherently, lol

You can one shot large hogs or spiders if you get the placement right

[feral jay]

Well really, you can also just nuke 'em

[whole drum]

Nukes come a lot later

[feral jay]

Nuke nobs are totally unrealistic. At one point the US Army was considering actually making them, and they could have, the problem was that nobody could possible throw them far enough to not get killed by the blast

[whole drum]

Yeah, it was called the Davy Crocket

[feral jay]

But hey, they're fun, and the boom they make is awesome

[whole drum]

Was a man-portable mini-nuke launcher, like in Fallout

Usually they would be mounted on a truck or something tho

[feral jay]

Even from a rocket launcher, the problem is still that if there's a oopsie, it's a BIG oopsie, and it wipes out your whole unit

[whole drum]

Yup

[stray wagon]

Why am I just exploding to radiation damage at my nuclear factory

[whole drum]

And there are memes about privates and lts for a reason

[whole drum]

Lack of hazmat suit and/or rad filters

[median geyser]

Is there a way to make switchable belts? Basically a train track junction but for belts?

[feral jay]

How the hell did you build a nuclear factory without first equipping a rad suit, without dying?

[whole drum]

It's pretty much just splitters and mergers--or smart variations

[severe pewter]

Sounds like they forgot to turn off friendly fire first

[feral jay]

It's mergers and splitters all the way down

[median geyser]

Ah, so no. Oh whale

[whole drum]

Probably built the thing before connecting the Ur node

[severe pewter]

You mean with smart splitters?

[feral jay]

But if you're asking about splitters that you can actually "switch", remotely, then no

[median geyser]

I literally want to throw a switch and see items stop path A and start path B

[stray wagon]

Nah I have a rad suit with the filters

[whole drum]

Yeah, that isn't really a thing