satisfactory

[odd fox]

?

[silk ocean]

The resources to run the nuclear

[odd fox]

Oh yea

They are on their own seperate supply chain

from the rest of my factory

[silk ocean]

Very good, keep it that way xD

[odd fox]

and only excess rescourses are split off using a smart splitter

[silk ocean]

Powergen is the most important thing in the game

[odd fox]

Even if something happens to my nuclear, ive got a mini battery farm , which can keep me going about a hour

[wind marsh]

do yall connect a train to your power plants? im starting a new power plant in the crater lake and all of my factorys are somewhat far away (west coastline), is it better to hook up a power line or a train

[silk ocean]

There are 5 trains that run into my nuclear plant, so I guess, yes

[wind marsh]

how should i go about connecting it then? train line high up or low, or is there a better way that looks good

[odd fox]

I have 0 trains used in my entire run

[silk ocean]

Global train network, they come from all over the world

[odd fox]

I just make like 1000 meter long conveyer networks

Im just starting tier 5 at the moment

[jolly zephyr]

anyone ever had a gpu crash dump?

[silk ocean]

Just double tracks, drive on the right, etc. Signals

[silk ocean]

Sometimes xD

[odd fox]

i got 11 minutes

to get my 6 new power plants online

[silk ocean]

In the simple form, place foundations, build up from there, 2 tracks can sit next to each other

[odd fox]

yea ig

[silk ocean]

If you need signal help, just ask

Don't go to questions and answers xD

Unless I am sleeping, then you are doomed XD

[odd fox]

Nooo

[silk ocean]

Even KYO is better at trains, this chan is best xD

[jolly zephyr]

what does it mean?

[silk ocean]

It means we are good at trains xD

[nova oriole]

Could anyone help me understand how the energy enhancer works?

[jolly zephyr]

the what?

[silk ocean]

The Alien Power Augmenter ?

[dense violet]

dupes +10% of your energy

[jolly zephyr]

5 hr energy

[dense violet]

!wikisearch power_augmenter

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power_augmenter

[nova oriole]

That's what's called in Italian so I made up an English name on the spot apologies

[dense violet]

the wiki is useful for things

[silk ocean]

Check the dictionary? xD the English one

[silk ocean]

I never went wiki xD

[dense violet]

learn to love it

[silk ocean]

Love wiki, love life

[nova oriole]

Ok so basically I need to give it stuff and it increases my power production?

[silk ocean]

It gives power, give it more and it produces more

[jolly zephyr]

No. It multiplies your existing power grid by 1.1 for free.

In Tier 9, you can give it stuff and increase the multiplication factor to 1.3

[nova oriole]

Okay now I get it thanks

[silk ocean]

The best thing you can do is the Alien Tech Tree

Dimensional Depot

Get it.

Hypercannons next

There is a priority order xD

[dense ice]

We’re having issues with console crossplay on Satisfactory (PS5 + Xbox). We’re Epic friends, accounts linked, NAT ok, new worlds, full restarts, but the game doesn’t show our sessions in-game. Epic shows us both playing, but we can’t see each other in Satisfactory.

[dense violet]

known issue, it's apparently being worked on

[silk ocean]

Take it to dedicated servers

[median geyser]

Is there a diagram for the signals of a 4 way intersection of train rails?

[fluid sapphire]

it looks the same as a 3 way

[silk ocean]

#dedicated-servers

[fluid sapphire]

put simply, path in, block out

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Train_Signals#/media/File:Train_Signal_-_Complex_1.png

make sure your rails are at least 8 meters apart from center to center

[median geyser]

Which ones are which? they look near identical, and the angle of that photo is abysmal 😂

[silk ocean]

Not really dedicated servers, console is a trainwreck, but maybe xD

[fluid sapphire]

like i said, path signals on entry points, blocks on exit

[silk ocean]

Just send console to dedicated-servers xD Easy than dealing with that wreckage xD

[fluid sapphire]

alternatively you can also just use block signals, that will just mean that trains with non-intersecting paths cant pass the intersection simultaneously

[median geyser]

Done as suggested, its saying it loops back into itself, which isnt possible because currently the intersection (and a small straight bit pointing out in each of the 4 directions) are the end of the line 😂 Ill just keep building and hope it resolves when I add in more blocks

[fluid sapphire]

rebuild the rails connected to the path signals and replace the rails, then replace the signals - or place the signals further away from the intersection, this is a bug that became prevalent in 1.1 (probably) - in some cases, reloading your save helps too

[little shale]

Is the solution to the power spikes from my particle accelerator power storage?

[fluid sapphire]

or just generate enough power not to care

[median geyser]

When my path signals turn into red lights and say "waiting for path revision", that means the intersection is properly blocked and is now just waiting for a train to actually reserve a path, right?

[visual elm]

so how does an array work then? is it just like "overflow it all"

[nova oriole]

Are the geyser generators worth it?

[dense violet]

do you mean a belt manifold?

[mortal ginkgo]

free power is free

[dense violet]

stick a machine on it - get power. Costs basically nothing

[fluid sapphire]

yes, path signals are red by default, if no signals have errors, it should work

provided the rest of your network is signaled

[median geyser]

Thanks 🙏 Some of them still do because not all exits are done properly, but thats a self-resolving problem

[fiery pewter]

I have so much iron in my starter location I reckon I could automate Smart Plating

It is that valley in the Northern Forest

[fluid sapphire]

think i know the spot you mean, i extract a lot from there, one spot with a large number of high quality nodes all very close to each other

[fiery pewter]

Yeah

[fiery pewter]

Yeah six pure iron, a bunch of normal limestone, a singular pure copper, even some caterium nearby

If possible, I use 1 iron node for basic iron, another one for reinforced plates, another one for modular frames, another one for rotors, one for smart plating, and the last one for basic steel

[tranquil hemlock]

didnt saw it on recipes😭

[fluid sapphire]

equipment workshop

[tranquil hemlock]

yea mb

[fiery pewter]

Eventually you get an alt recipe that lets you automate them

[visual elm]

yeah that thing that everyone goes on about being the best way to make your factory

[dense violet]

yup just work on overflow

[visual elm]

hmm. maybe I'm stupid but i can't really see how it's better than a system that's tuned for exact amounts?
it's less brain power to set up ig?

[fiery pewter]

Ye ig

[dense violet]

less space, less thinking, expandable

[fluid sapphire]

you can set up manifolds to work with exact amounts, these concepts are not mutually exclusive

[fiery pewter]

I am a bigger fan of exact amounts

[visual elm]

i always like having my machines giving the next one in the line exactly what it wants, and also having like one straight line per production

[dense violet]

if your system needs 320 parts per min, send 320 parts per min down a manifold. Works

[fiery pewter]

I like to see my belts flowing at a constant pace, not stuttering

[visual elm]

same

[fluid sapphire]

any sufficiently large factory is a royal pain in the neck to build without using manifolds

if you are building small, its whatever

[visual elm]

when you've finished building your new design and you flip the power and slowly watch it all come to life, the conveyors flowing like the veins in an intricate, mechanical body

[fiery pewter]

I wonder if my 1350 MW biomass plant will even be able to handle that

[dense violet]

you see that with manifolds as well

[fluid sapphire]

1350MW biomass plant, fr

[fiery pewter]

Yeag

[fluid sapphire]

feeding that must be a full time job

[visual elm]

the only thing I do always overflow is water kek, I like, when possible, to keep my entire pipe system full

[fiery pewter]

It will be

In phase 1

The biomass (wood) constructor outputs 300 per minute

So I am nearly instantly splitting it into 3

[mental raft]

How much RAM do I need to play satisfactory minimum?

[fluid sapphire]

i would advise not to play on anything that has less than 16gb

[mental raft]

ah thanks

[fluid sapphire]

save files can get pretty chonky

[merry granite]

16gb is recommended 8gb is minimum, 32gb helps in late game

[fluid sapphire]

it takes a decent chunk of memory to keep all the objects and stuff in memory while you play

[mental raft]

I’ll get 64GB then for my new PC

[merry granite]

thats pretty overkill

[whole drum]

Get 64TB

[fiery pewter]

Whag

Talking about overkill

[fiery pewter]

Enough to run Blender smoothly

[fluid sapphire]

if youre doing sample heavy music production or some AI stuff i understand, otherwise sounds overkill xd

or video editing

[whole drum]

64TB would be like IRL editing

[mental raft]

I know

[merry granite]

does sample heavy music production use alot of ram for some reason? audio is usually tiny

[fiery pewter]

Hol' up, lemme edit my house real quick

My starter base do be coming along nicely

[fluid sapphire]

rendered audio is tiny, yes, but individidual high quality samples in stuff like orchestral libraries add up very quick

[merry granite]

interesting

didnt know that, thanks

[fiery pewter]

To really tell that I like my belts moving

I sometimes put a smart splitter on every belt

To sink overflow

[merry granite]

isnt that just manifold?

pretty much

[fiery pewter]

Eh

Smart splitter could be the end of the manifold

But I also put them between final machine and storage container

And my phone is dying now

[reef basin]

Only need to sink final product

[wicked yew]

Possibly a dumb question, can machines access the dimensional storage inventory?

[oblique smelt]

Nah, the dimensional storage is just your inventory

[silk ocean]

Greeny is the answer - it's final ingredients. You don't go to the supermarket to buy stuff that is made for you xD

Just use this - https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

Bot be hate me xD

[icy jetty]

guys the blueprint menu is god awful.

especially when it comes to moving and saving things

[opaque minnow]

Why can't join my fiend me on PS5

[sterile blade]

#1038092680493801533

[opaque minnow]

Yeah no answer

[reef basin]

then wait for knowledgable people to answer 🙂

[leaden turret]

#faq message ?

[sterile blade]

Or try searching for answers. I don't know how similar they are to one another, but there's tons of posts about multiplayer issues, many of which contain the solutions to the problem

[fluid sapphire]

it just works in a non-intuitive way, once you get used to it, its whatever, works fine

[whole drum]

Trying to organize it does suck, but at least you can hotkey the bps themselves

[reef basin]

there's more drives than unlocks

[whole drum]

The only reason I would save any is to have some ready to go when I enter a new phase

[icy jetty]

no i understand how to use it, it's just straight up broken in some aspects. so it's more than just unintuitive

[whole drum]

You totally don't need to tho

[reef basin]

yes (though alt recipes rarely unlock completely new items)

[sterile blade]

Ahah, no, if you can't unlock any you'll just get nothing back (until you scan it again with new unlocks)

[whole drum]

I think Turbo Fuel is the only thing I've had this happen with

[icy jetty]

whoever decided you can't drag and drop blueprints from one catagory to another needs fired

[reef basin]

TF, RF, compacted, ...

[whole drum]

Basically only things that come from MAM research

[sterile blade]

MAM research is the only case where items are unlocked using hard drives

[reef basin]

distilled silica

[icy jetty]

omg this truly is a godawful BP menu. it keeps saving it to another catagory and then i have to delete the entire BP and resave it

forget it, don't fire that guy, shoot them

[whole drum]

This kind of stuff is why I gave up on trying to categorize it. Just name it alphabetically.

[icy jetty]

sigh...ya

but what autistic person also decided you can't rename them?

decades of computer archetecture is lost on them

[whole drum]

lol

Conveyor belts pretty

[icy jetty]

"sir we found him, the guy who made this menu"

"take me to the S B"

[ocean frost]

must have been vibe coded

[leaden turret]

you wanna try that again without being insulting to autistic people?

[icy jetty]

i also hate that there's no way to desconstruct something, Hit F, and go back to what you had ready to build. like when i wanna move a merger. first i gotta delete it, then open the build menu again, and place. instead of just middle click, delete, and place.

[fluid sapphire]

if you have other mergers nearby, you can sample one

pretty rare to only have a single one, at least for me

[green fiber]

Make use of your 10 hotbars with 10 slots

Having the important, most used things on that is REALLY a gamechanger

[fluid sapphire]

indeed, the 10 hotbars, combined with the selection wheel that you get with E, super powerful

[green fiber]

i have an entire hotbar for power stuff, one for belt stuff, one for pipe stuff, some for foundations and walls, etc

you can even put blueprints, materials and colors on your hotbar

[whole drum]

Hotkeys - They'll save you so much headache.
Mine usually look like this (on page 1):

• 1. Power pole
• 2. Power line
• 3. Whatever tier belt I'm spamming
• 4. Splitter
• 5. Merger
• 6. Conveyor Lift
• 7. Ladder
• 8. Storage container
• 9. 4m Wall
• 10. 1m Foundation

[green fiber]

even just hitting E a bunch of times is super fast
i only have one belt type on my hotbar, the current highest mk, and i cycle between them by pressing E

[fluid sapphire]

some of these are redundant, if you have a splitter on your hotbar, holding E will open a wheel with everything in that category, mergers, smart splitters etc

[fluid sapphire]

indeed, i do that too

[green fiber]

it may be redundant but sometimes its just easier.

[whole drum]

A single tap is faster

[fluid sapphire]

barely, but sure

sometimes its more convenient to have a larger variety of stuff on a single hotbar

[green fiber]

the wheel is more for when you got a lot of choices tied to stuff i feel
like foundation height and materials

[fluid sapphire]

this helps compress

[hasty cairn]

The only thing I dislike about running the Power Line construction is that it auto snaps to whatever type of power pole you started the line with. When sometimes all I need is a T2 on site and T1 running over distance

[green fiber]

funny that you say that - people have been wishing for it to act like that for ages

[fluid sapphire]

i get a lot more mileage out of it particularly for splitters/mergers, that whole category, stuff like belt supports etc, and custom blueprint categories, this feature is ridiculously useful

[whole drum]

Yeah, I love that it does

Can just middle click + e to change it

[dapper plinth]

heheheheheheheh

[scenic mirage]

🙃 should i try and make 5000 rocket fuel/min? its doable, but id need 1740 power shards and 480 refineries

itd give 300 GW too

[dense violet]

I don't think it's that little of power

But also - nuclear.

[scenic mirage]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/power/index/powerOutput/300000/powerShards/1500/generator/Build_GeneratorFuel_C/fuel/Desc_RocketFuel_C

[scenic mirage]

i mean yeah i def wanna get that too but i have 98 GW rn and w nuclear pasta on i use like 78 GW

[dense violet]

wow that's even worse then

[scenic mirage]

wdym 😭

[dense violet]

1200 generators?

[hasty cairn]

Fun fact -- New York City's gigawatt demand is like an eighth or a tenth of that in the summer 😅

[dense violet]

gross. Just go nuclear

have 120 generators do the same thing

[scenic mirage]

what ab power? just shut down all the factories to get nuclear running

[dense violet]

You can build some power storage to charge up while you're building

[scenic mirage]

oh true i forget those are a thing

[dense violet]

boot strab the new systems that way

make a BP with a bunch of storage

[hasty cairn]

Energizer Ultimate Uranium ™

[dense violet]

well 300gw will do for the vast majority of people

[scenic mirage]

good thing im not the majority of people 😎

[dense violet]

but it depends what yo umean by 'end game'

finishing the phases can be done on less than 30gw easily. But are you not going to treat the game like a sand box after?

yeah so you can finish the phases on WAY less - but maybe yo uwant to consider lots of power for sandbox stuff 🙂

[scenic mirage]

1500 uranium/min -> 36 uranium fuel rod/min -> 320 plutonium fuel rod/min -> 10.67 plutonium fuel rod/min

[dense violet]

go at your own pace 🙂 I'm at more than 3500hrs and never launched the final phase

[fluid sapphire]

you could do it with 0 power shards

[dense violet]

I just go sand box after I unlock everything

[silk ocean]

It's 40 on the bypass, wat xD Used to be 60, then 50, now snowflake 40

[scenic mirage]

i could shut off my nuclear pasta part i alr got the 1000 for elevator

[hasty cairn]

Eh, don't sweat it, Zena. So am I, only recently finishing the automation chains to get to the next phases. Exploration and collecting slugs is honestly just as fun for me as the factory part of the game

[silk ocean]

What's next when snowflakes cry... 30

[hard ivy]

why 10.66 Pu rods? 9 is enough to get rid of the waste from 36 U rods

[scenic mirage]

huh

[fluid sapphire]

1100+ hours, still havent finished phase 4, just enjoy the ride

[silk ocean]

40 miles per hour

[scenic mirage]

i plan on going all the way to ficsonium

[scenic mirage]

????

[silk ocean]

The road around my town

[hasty cairn]

Fun fact -- "Transplutonics" is the term for materials coming after Plutonium on the periodic table, all of which are radioactive. There are others besides that, but Pu is where it gets really spicy

[hard ivy]

then 10.66 is still a weird number

[winter fable]

Hmm crunchy

[silk ocean]

25 years ago it was 60.. then it became 50. 1 years ago it became 40

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

[scenic mirage]

what are you talking about

[silk ocean]

The road.. around my town

[winter fable]

The… countryroad?

[silk ocean]

You know.. a real road

Something that is in RL

It's a bit country xD

[winter fable]

And it takes you home right?

[silk ocean]

Well kinda.. takes me around town

[winter fable]

So to the places you belong?

[scenic mirage]

how does snow relate to the speed limit? and why in the #satisfactory channel and not like #off-topic-general

[whole drum]

Abolish speed limits and mandatory car insurance, let natural selection decide the rest

[scenic mirage]

yeah and just screw over millions who do decide to be logical

[silk ocean]

Because who wants to drive at 40 when you can drive at 60

[fluid sapphire]

that\d be great if everyone would drive without affecting anyone else

[whole drum]

It would be temporary

[silk ocean]

It's not temporary

[fluid sapphire]

thats one way to advocate for genocide, thats for sure, bravo

[scenic mirage]

i see, you from america?

[winter fable]

Logic is temporary, but adrenalin is eternal

[silk ocean]

It is very off topic xD

Have you lived in the UK?

[scenic mirage]

nope, i live in denmark tho

public transport is too goated

[silk ocean]

The woke-brigade reduce speed limits, they don't get increased

That road is at least a 50-60. Now it is a 40. What a joke

[winter fable]

Here at ficit, we believe speedlimits are nothing more than a construct, it doesnt contribute to your productivity

Wait how fast can trains and the car go?

[silk ocean]

A lot faster than cars apparently

[winter fable]

Bullettrain, def trying fun stuff in freebuild with it

[scenic mirage]

wdym woke? ofc they were awake you cant do anything while sleeping lmfao

[silk ocean]

Nobody drives that road at 40 apart from woke single mothers who shout the loudest

[scenic mirage]

driving slower is safer?

[hasty cairn]

🛑 Off topic

[silk ocean]

I know the UK - what happened was some "consultation". All the mothers shouted the loudest, time passed, now 40 mph

No mail in my box.. not allowed to object in the UK

[whole drum]

We all have our own opinions on politics, but this isn't the place.

[silk ocean]

This is not politics xD

[hard ivy]

you could get more with plutonium unit. and a more convenient number - 16

[silk ocean]

You'd be pretty annoyed if they change the speed limit on your road xD

[scenic mirage]

1. yes it is
2. this is a channel for discussing video games, #off-topic-general

[scenic mirage]

nah bc i bike and take the bus

[silk ocean]

Yea well, when you grow up and drive a car, come back here again xD

It's totally on topic xD

[steel kelp]

the bus??????/////

[scenic mirage]

naw im good. ill focus on optimizing my train throughput 😺

[silk ocean]

Yea who takes the bus xD

Get a car xD Then you can suffer xD

[icy jetty]

man without images we can't even be on-topic in this channel because you need to go to math and meta just to casually talk about an image that's not even about math

[scenic mirage]

theres #screenshots too, most people just copy a link to the message like this

#screenshots message

[icy jetty]

which should make your soul scream

[silk ocean]

Where you live, please don't say UK xD Autotrader? Craigslist? xD

[scenic mirage]

nah i dont mind taking an extra 10 seconds

[silk ocean]

Getting a car is easy you just need to know some things

[icy jetty]

-casually turns off the extra constructor he doesn't need in his BP-

ya that's totally not gonna cause me a headache later when i forget it's off

[scenic mirage]

i mean if its smth basic you can drop a screenshot in the channel and ask here, otherwise theres #1038092680493801533, you can also use #math-and-meta and #design-and-architecture

[whole drum]

And people wanted to argue when I said it was poorly set up, lol

[dense violet]

I mean, #screenshots is shitty for help for everyone involved

[merry granite]

You can probably google or use AI for alot of those questions

[dense violet]

objectively the worst for all parties involved

[merry granite]

Touche

different strokes for different folks

I suppose

[steel kelp]

does anyone know why some of my drones have a weird red or blue outline around them?

only happened when i changed their colour

[leaden turret]

don't use AI for satisfactory, AI is demonstrably a moron

[dense violet]

just save and reload, visual glitch

[icy jetty]

lmao i guess i offended cobalt somehow

[steel kelp]

ty

[whole drum]

Probably by having a strong opinion about something

[dense violet]

If people just repeatedly send msgs that make my life marginally more annoying it's easier to just block them. Saves reading time.

[hard ivy]

not hard to do

[dense violet]

I do sometimes check covered msgs though

[ivory condor]

Sounds like somebody is going to be blocking alot of people, because many messages can easily fall under annoying category

[dense violet]

if only I could render irl folks intangible

[whole drum]

I can think of one or two I would, lol

[winter fable]

Factorio for 134h???

Its real

[shy mulch]

I block a lot of people, but it's not really a block, it just hides messages which is a bit rubbish because they can be easily unhidden. I'd like to be able to fully block but seems discord doesn't support that

[leaden turret]

english is a poop language, don't worry about it

[shy mulch]

I english enjoy. People because understand still order if wrong even words.

[ivory condor]

Yeah the blocking feature of discord definitely leaves much to be desired as you say for sure

[leaden turret]

^example of why is poop

[icy jetty]

Vencord will hide the blocked message indicator as well.

[dense violet]

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

[ivory condor]

Really thats interesting

[shy mulch]

one of my fave sentences, took me a while to grok it

[dense violet]

there's a few other dumb sentences like that I think

[whole drum]

Wouldn't simple disagreement qualify?

[shy mulch]

there's a way to use the word 'and' 5 times in a row in a perfectly gramattical sentence

[winter fable]

Minor inconvenience

[leaden turret]

and and &

[lost oasis]

so guys i was playing offline because my internet wasnt working on xbox and my game crashed. all my things are on that offline account and i just cannot log into it, my internet is working now but idk what to do to get thr things back, and i still see my gamertag logged off in the game what should i do?

[whole drum]

Oxford comma or no?

[winter fable]

Satisfactory doesnt have logic gates right?

[dense violet]

kill your old body and loot it

[leaden turret]

deeper meaning of satisfactory....

belt go brrrr

[shy mulch]

without, and it was actually 7 not 5 😄

[whole drum]

If you want some friendly advice, I suggest reading books written in English.

[leaden turret]

entire discworld series

[icy jetty]

junction junction, what's your function

hooking up 💀

[leaden turret]

to make like a tree and branch

[lost oasis]

Thanks man, you just saved me like 2h love ya

[shy mulch]

Sorry my mistake, it was actually 5. Try this on for size
The owner of the Horse and Hound complained to the signmaker, the spaces between the words Horse and and and and and Hound were uneven

[icy jetty]

or make like a baby and head out

[whole drum]

It probably helps

[leaden turret]

ehh.... dubtitling is an issue. one of the reasons I'm glad Satisfactory has frequently-updated translations rather than being a static piece of media.

[dense violet]

you'll have to hit it A LOT

[lost oasis]

i used the xeno basher

[shy mulch]

I think it's one of the best ways to start learning a new language. Find a show you love that you have watched multiple times in your native language and know in detail, then watch it in the new language and try to follow it

[lost oasis]

i could use my bombs but that would be a waste

[whole drum]

Bombs are never a waste

[shy mulch]

no

[lost oasis]

i meaan yeah but im just too lazy crafting them

[shy mulch]

automate them

[whole drum]

This

[icy jetty]

if they were gonna dlc it's probably be a different planet

[lost oasis]

i barely use them so no

[fluid sapphire]

can i watch stranger things in java somehow

[leaden turret]

islands were added to look pretty, only place that might get an update is Paradise Island.

although CSS are looking to hire a 3d artist specifically talented at foliage...

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> you know that line on the job ad is going to make it harder to pretend you're not going to add potted plants in 1.2/1.3

[winter fable]

Days since cm ping: 0

[shy mulch]

the world that we have took them many years to create by hand, and a huge amount of work, if they had started work on expanding it they would have told us by now

[whole drum]

To be fair, they were also building a bunch of systems, art assets, physics behaviors, etc--not just a map

Making another map by itself would take much less time the 2nd time around

[icy jetty]

a map that can't be moulded, in a genre that's usually about reshaping the land to fit your factory. i think the devs missed.

[leaden turret]

CMs are there to be pung

[shy mulch]

I can't see it being worthwhile though, it would be an extreme amount of work for very small gain

[whole drum]

"Pung" I love it

[fluid sapphire]

hardly, its just a different philosophy, designing around the terrain, rather than molding it

[whole drum]

Yeah, not all of these games need to be Minecraft lol

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=nature AND (train OR architecture)

[icy jetty]

you can't really build around it either in this game. just sorta above it

[shy mulch]

Pung statistics for 142.250.117.101
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate rount trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms

Looks like my pung is fine

[leaden turret]

https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/6716454-experienced-3d-artist

get job, modify terrain, problem solved

[compact flicker]

If the map wasn't hand crafted, and instead procedurally generated, I'd agree

[fluid sapphire]

i cant look at that for too long without starting to feel bad about my own builds ehehehhh

[leaden turret]

it's a running joke I have that whenever someone wants something that isn't likely to happen, to tell them to apply for a job at CSS and make it happen 😛

[compact flicker]

lol

[whole drum]

Much more likely if willing to work pro bono

[leaden turret]

is Sweden, probably wouldn't let you work for free

[compact flicker]

Wish we could raise monorail tracks like what we can do with conveyor/pipe supports

[fluid sapphire]

ramps

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=viaduct

[winter fable]

0% ping 100% pung

[compact flicker]

That is cool lookin

[merry granite]

I generally agree but itll find whatever information is out there and just show it for you, and theres usually no high stakes so no biggie, I wouldnt trust it for math but i think itd be okay for questions about game features

[leaden turret]

@merry granite you sure about that?

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

red or blue for nuclear 🤔

[merry granite]

Have alot of people attested to it being bad for satisfactory or are you going off of this one vid?

[scenic mirage]

@cyan valve is that a mod? howd you show all that on the map

[merry granite]

I tried it for a thing or two and it was good

[leaden turret]

I'm going off seeing what ai is good and bad at first-hand

[leaden turret]

SCIM, linked in #welcome (not [currently] an option for console users)

[dense violet]

language models jsut talk shit that sounds good - For anything important you always want to go over exactly what it says and double check it with better sources

at that point, just look up those sources in the first place

[merry granite]

Have you been using it

[scenic mirage]

oh yeah 😭 i thought that was ingame

[leaden turret]

what do you think "first-hand" means?

[dense violet]

I havent. But I see people posting very wrong gpt nonsense and wonder why it doesn't work

[scenic mirage]

chatgpt is an LLM. large language model. that means it guesses what word would fit next.

[merry granite]

I know what it means, i was trying to catch you out on that

[leaden turret]

you've been spending too much time talking to LLMs 😛

[merry granite]

Im out of my element here, I usually dont advocate for AI but it seems most people here are saying its bad for satisfactory, so Im probably wrong, respectfully

[scenic mirage]

ive tried using gpt a few times and it never works right, it invents alt recipes, gets ratios wrong, invents building methods, pipes mk3

[dense violet]

it halucinates bullshit
and as you can see with Grok msgs, who knows how they are being programed with whatever biases

[merry granite]

For the record I hardly use AI and I do know how they work thanks, but Ive heard good things for some purposes so im trying to remember to use it more personally

[leaden turret]

the only thing I've seen them good for is searching documentation when you don't know the material enough to know what keywords to look for yourself

[scenic mirage]

wdym? elon is clearly a better fit for patriots quarterback than drake maye

[dense violet]

and apparently a better throat goat than nancy reagan

[leaden turret]

don't forget #rules re: nsfw 😬

[merry granite]

My uni classmates would be the first to tell you chatgpt is great for researching lol

[scenic mirage]

i seriously wonder what the next generation of the workforce is gonna look like, everyone just throwing their assignments into chatgpt '

[dense violet]

I could tell you I'm the queen of mars, doesn't make it true

[leaden turret]

idiots using tools created with massive copyright infringement to plagiarise is #off-topic-general or #off-topic-tech

[scenic mirage]

are you a mod or smth? i agree w what youre saying but im just wondering lol

[hard ivy]

thankfully not XD

[leaden turret]

nope, just get bored when there's a wall of off-topic text that would put people off participating if they're not used to the server

[scenic mirage]

real

[whole drum]

What is your favorite phase of the game and why?

[leaden turret]

have also said before I do not have the temperament to tolerate people enough to be a mod in here.

[hard ivy]

3 because of oil and HMFs. I like both

[whole drum]

I'm a big fan of 3 as well. Oil is my favorite resource.

[compact flicker]

Just took my first ride on the hub pod :3

Wait where did my inventory go

[hard ivy]

🤣

[compact flicker]

Instant autosave load xd

[whole drum]

Was an open question to others as well

[compact flicker]

4

[whole drum]

What do you enjoy about it?

[compact flicker]

The jump in compexity

Gives me an excuse to build more trains

[whole drum]

I also love the Hoverpack

[compact flicker]

Oh ye that too

[scenic mirage]

i wish there was a triangle foundation

[leaden turret]

inverted corner ramp, I think is the closest

[ivory condor]

Still waiting for the day coated concrete walls eventually make it into the game, im still holding out for hope

[scenic mirage]

ye its almost perfect, i just dont like how its not a full foundation piece yk

[quick hound]

yeah, not happening…

[ivory condor]

Hope crusher

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

bye bye to this lake

[quick hound]

Your despair tastes so good omnomnom

[lunar python]

I occasinally clip pillars into foundations to get some triangle shape

[ivory condor]

I'm glad

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[lunar python]

#screenshots message

[pine patrol]

i just finished placing radio towers everywhere 👍

[compact flicker]

I love the lil shrines that are around sloops and spheres :3

[pine patrol]

HAIL THE SLOOP

[sonic verge]

man ive spent so much time on my coal generator area and for some reason when I add a 15th generator I lose water pressure in the center. the pipes are going around the back and to the front on each end. I have 6 water extractors. 3 was enough for 8 no clue why 6 isn't enough for even 15. do I need mk2 pipes?

[scenic mirage]

oh wow wtf thats dope asf

[scenic mirage]

8 gens need 3 water extractors

group them in 8s

[whole drum]

Mk1 only hold 300, so for the 3:8 ratio to work on 16, you'd need to have a 2nd system of 3, ideally not connected to the 1st set

[pine patrol]

check water consuption make sure it doesnt outnumber the 300 M^3PS Mk1 pipes have

if you have mk2 pipes and find the coal gens water usage does outnumber 300 but is lower than 600 use Mk2

[sonic verge]

ohhhhh I see now, I was trying to route the pipes into them all. that makes sense now. this game makes me feel like I have room temperature I.Q. at times

[pine patrol]

if its higher than 600 use a serpate pipe system and or make more water extractors on the oposite side of the current side your getting water from

[whole drum]

Exactly. It's like trying to push 240/m through a mk2 belt that only holds 120/m

Just the numbers are different with pipes

[pine patrol]

those numbers for your pipes would be like trying to put 530 M^3PS through a pipe that can only push 300

ofc 530 is just an example

[pine patrol]

Just realized this says per second and not per minute

units per minute is what i meant

the pipes aint THAT fast

[whole drum]

That looks so awkard, lol
It's dangerous to go alone. Take this.

³ <<<<<

[pine patrol]

that brings me back

[whole drum]

Was the 3rd video game I ever played

[pine patrol]

I have no idea when i played it other than it being years ago

[hasty cairn]

I literally just discovered the "straight" and "curve" build modes of conveyor belts... I feel like such an idiot XD This is gonna help my facs look SO much nicer

[ivory condor]

those are still fairly new and were introduced in 1.1 update, same for the additional build modes for pipes also

[whole drum]

I think those were 1.0?

For the belts at least

[ivory condor]

hmmm my memory might be bad on some of this for sure

[whole drum]

Likewise, but I could swear they were already in when I came back for 1.0

[remote brook]

im back with another save but i got instantly demotivated as soon as i saw stuff i would need to automate for tier 4

[hasty cairn]

Before, I had to manually line it up with conveyor poles so it would look right-angled, now it can do that automatically which is so nice

[whole drum]

Don't be intimidated. Just take it one step at a time.

[remote brook]

my brain doesnt work without SCIM should i not use it does it make it too easy

[hasty cairn]

Well I am going to find out why tier 4 is so frightening in a bit, I FINALLY automated versatile frameworks LOL

[remote brook]

i put somersloop in manufacturer to get everything 4x faster

[hasty cairn]

I still can't do that because I need to find "SAM" and I have no idea where to look, I'm in the desert

[remote brook]

i found some in a big cave

in desert border

[whole drum]

Do you want to find it, or do you want to know where it is?

[hasty cairn]

I would like to find it, I'm just curious where to even look. Like, am I looking for something like a Somersloop, or am I looking for an extractable node?

[remote brook]

node

it glows purple and very cool

[hasty cairn]

Oooo. Got it, thanks. That helps, because it probably won't fit in a dark and dingy little cave

[whole drum]

It looks like Quartz, but... smoother

But yeah, it's a resource node you stick a miner on

[remote brook]

i like standing on it and looking down

[whole drum]

Several of them actually do

[hasty cairn]

OK, good. Thank you. That narrows it down while not spoiling it for me

Well I mean more in the sense that I find a lot of slugs, etc. in places where a miner would not fit at all

[whole drum]

Yeah, but you'll still be surprised, lol

[remote brook]

btw until you get to put alien stuff in machines the power slugs are worth saving for when that comes

[whole drum]

While this is a common practice, I only save the purples for it

[hasty cairn]

When the AI starts wondering "what are you smoking?" I think something is wrong, but also... mama dinnt raise no b@#$%

[remote brook]

its still worth it imo

ai s are so bad at game info

[hard ivy]

eh, I only convert slugs into shards before sloops if I have to. no reason to waste slugs on shards you aren't gonna use

[whole drum]

I understand the mindset, but I don't really use them enough to run out easily

[remote brook]

wish i didnt discover the dupe glitch on last save that didnt make it fun but im still kindof happy to start a new save with more organised machines

[glad quest]

u can dupe?

[remote brook]

probably patched by now

[glad quest]

fair

[remote brook]

it was like the week 1.0 was released

[whole drum]

It would severely risk ruining a significant part of the game for you if you did it tho

[remote brook]

i just duped the alien stuff a little and coupons and hard drives and maybe purple snail

[glad quest]

i have nearly 750 hours and the only bug i found was visual ones

[glad quest]

tbh mercerspheres and somersloops neeeeeed to be automated

[remote brook]

nah not somersloops

[whole drum]

Well, with that many hours you already know what parts of the game you like and don't--probably much less risk for you

[glad quest]

i think it should be convoluted asf and make like 0.1 pm for like 25gw

[remote brook]

i usually use cheat engine in grindy parts of games but i dont think it would be possible on satisfactory with amount of space it takes

[glad quest]

u cnt rlly cheat as that defeats the purpose of the game lol

[remote brook]

cutting out grindy parts in SOME games satisfactory is like a massive grind so you can really use it on this

[zenith rock]

guys, i did it, my iron ore uses smelter to smelt iron ingot, moreover, i used mk pole to conenct you can guess 3 smelter

[whole drum]

I mean, if there were anything I would consider cheating, it would just be starting with like 150 spheres

Just to save the time of hunting them down

[remote brook]

btw is there more "ADA" dialogue for when you collect many or does it end at some point

[glad quest]

connect it to 2 then u can make a neater power cables

[zenith rock]

is this engineering, damn i am a engineer,

[glad quest]

not far off lol

[hard ivy]

there's no reason to make more mercer spheres than the 300 you can find, and somersloops should probably be limited. recipes should be changed required so it doesn't feel like you need to use sloops to be able to do something

[glad quest]

theres 300????? dam ive only ever found like 40 lol

[hard ivy]

more like 296 or 297 or something like that but yeah

[glad quest]

im ngl i dislike the search element of the game i just wanna abuse the environment for efficent factories

[remote brook]

should i keep grindind for them to hear possible more becuase ive collected 20 after collecting like 80 and still dont get anything

[hard ivy]

that's why there are AGS so you don't have to if you don't want to

[glad quest]

ags?

[hard ivy]

advanced game settings

[glad quest]

ohhh yh but then u dont get achievements

[remote brook]

if you care about achievements but still wanna use ags use SAM steam achievement manager ofc if you are playing on steam that is

[hard ivy]

well, you gotta play the game (mostly) as intended to get those

factorio disables achevements for much less significant changes to gameplay

[sharp basin]

How many doggos can I have in my kennel at the same time? I mean do they dispawn? Is there a max limit to how many you can tame?

[remote brook]

they glitch out from what ive seen

[sharp basin]

In my case, I tamed the 1st one, had him in a cage, never despawned

But since I’m starting a kennel, I’m wondering

[remote brook]

not despawn just teleport

[whole drum]

I don't know what the max is, but you can get quite a few

[hard ivy]

There's no limit to how many you can tame afaik, but I'd avoid cramming them all into one space.

Keep them separate, and make sure that the outside walls, floor and ceiling are all foundations, not walls, roofs, etc

[fervent sand]

only mods and certain commands no?

and it’s just the steam achievements

[hard ivy]

Enabling AGS at all disables achievements, even if you don't turn on any individual ones afterwards

Console commands and mods do not disable achievements. And neither does anything else that isn't AGS

[fervent sand]

I’m talking about factorio, not sf

whoops should have made that clear

[hard ivy]

For Factorio, yeah, it's mods, some (most?) commands and worldgen settings (mostly enemy related)

[sharp basin]

Shit there’s a roof above my kennel

[lucid flicker]

who wants to see my map setup

look in screenshots

[hard ivy]

A roof might be fine? I mostly heard about them glitching through wall walls but they can't throw foundation walls

[sharp basin]

I’ll accumulate a few, and see if they stay

Like a dozen, I don’t know

I’m ALMOST done with my 1st factory, man, I have to make a BIG steel factory now, and now idea about the design. That’s my main issue now. I hate cubic factories.

[candid marsh]

sup! I'm having a really bad time with no other thing than fluids lol

is this channel the right one to ask about it?

[ivory condor]

About fluids?

[whole drum]

Give this a read: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

You don't have to do all the funny advanced tricks near the end. Just understand how it works.

[ivory condor]

The only thing I can say is I hate mk2 pipes with all my heart

[candid marsh]

yeah... i've been trying to make my refineries work for the last 6 hours 🫠

[candid marsh]

oh nice! let me check it

[whole drum]

It's pretty short and well-written/illustrated

[ivory condor]

hard to say without seeing your setup, also are using mk1 pipes or mk2 pipes, etc

[candid marsh]

so to make it short... 10 refineries making fuel to feed 20 fuel generators... gens are working flawlessly but refineries on the other hand...

[fervent sand]

oh right worldgen settings affect it

[ivory condor]

cant say without more information

[candid marsh]

oh wait... it seems to be finally working

I don't have a clue what i've done lol

[whole drum]

Could just be manifold taking time to warm up

[stray field]

Is there a way to prioritise ammo for a gun?

[candid marsh]

I mean, I always let everything fills up before, but for some reason it seems that using mk2 pipes from the manifold to each individual refinery was causing this issue

[whole drum]

Hold reload

[stray field]

What about for jetpack?

Nvm

[fervent sand]

I feel like this is a metaphor for many things in life

[candid marsh]

lol... same thing happens every time a bug shows up at work

[fervent sand]

I don’t know why this is working and I’m afraid to touch it now

[ivory condor]

mk2 manifolds are problematic in general if thats what they are using to, but those you always want to loop to avoid issues

but i doubt thats the case, as they said it somehow fixed itself, so probably only mk1 manifold

[candid marsh]

I mean, I left a large mk2 pipe to feed all the refineries (1 single mk1 pipe wouldn't work for that). What I've done is switching the pipe that goes from this mk2 to the refineries an mk1

[whole drum]

Good. Mk2 feeder pipes can easily create issues

[unkempt blade]

easily create easily fixable issues 😄

[ivory condor]

right, but depends if you need 600 input into that system or not, sometimes 300m3 is enough and mk1 are good enough

[whole drum]

600 on the mainline with 300 on the feeds is fine

[candid marsh]

Is gemini right? It says the game also calculates the bounce when fluids hit a dead end?

[whole drum]

Most of your machines won't need/take more than 300 of a liquid

[unkempt blade]

sloshing is why you loop one end to the other

[candid marsh]

ohhhhh now that makes a lot of sense

didn't know physics on this game was that realistic

[ivory condor]

hmmm how would you define mainline, aka not part of a manifold right, because mk2 pipe manifolds in general have issues

[whole drum]

I meed the feeds go from the mainline to the machines

[ivory condor]

ahhh well if the mainline is mk2, i can only see issues with it, thats always been my experience anyways

[drifting shard]

Does any of you know if CSS intend to keep the 'bugged' brightness scale for colours? (I.E. fixing it to only go between 0..1 instead of -1000..1000). I want to avoid using such colours for my builds if they plan on removing that bug but couldn't find any info on it?

[ivory condor]

pray its never fixed🙏

[whole drum]

Why would you have issues?

[broken garnet]

My game on console keeps crashing on launch anyone know what to do with it?

[unkempt blade]

blow into the cartridge to clear out any dust on the contacts

[ivory condor]

because mk2 pipes suck

[whole drum]

They work for me

[ivory condor]

thats a negative ghost rider in my experience

[unkempt blade]

Fluids work the same for all pipes but mk2 pipes have a higher throughput so people just notice them more. It's all pretty easy to handle with a couple building tricks

[ivory condor]

also other people keep giving me saves in which mk2 pipe manifolds are broken and i have to keep showing them how to fix it aka with the loops

I really wish css would do something about mk2 pipes, because mk2 manifolds are really problematic in general unless you loop both ends, but who knows, it might just stay the way it is because community work arounds for the problems exist

[whole drum]

Prefill, loop, have enough headlift, and use pumps for directional controll

[remote brook]

any tips for starting tier 4?

[unkempt blade]

yeah that + doing the math correctly is basically all the common stuff 😆

[scenic mirage]

am i supposed to be able to turn off other factories with the priority switch?

[whole drum]

Pretty much

[reef basin]

good old "build system properly so that it works"

[ivory condor]

true but the problem is the game doesn't explain any of this, so people just assume mk2 manifolds will just work without any problems and well then they come to discord to try to understand why it isnt, this i view as a gameplay issue that css needs to fix, aka giving some kind of ingame explaination of how to more properly use mk2 pipes or something

the fact that a third party manual, etc has to exist to explain something that the game already should i view as a little asinine to be honest

but i its easy for me to rant about mk2 pipes for sure

[reef basin]

the manual just shows what's possible, is hardly required for gameplay

[plain gate]

it's just honestly conclusions you have to draw from provided info and common sense... aka 8th grade physics

[whole drum]

I agree the game should have resources that explain it without need for 3rd party, but it is what it is

[ivory condor]

i didnt know 8th grade physics explained fluid mechanics and why you need to loop pipes, those most be some advanced classes

[whole drum]

Most of the game's mechanics are intuitive "enough," but fluids really aren't

[unkempt blade]

when you unlock pipes it should launch the entire hub into space and make it fall back to earth while it explains it to you like in the T0 tutorial

[remote brook]

i mean for when the complexity begins not tier 4 stage 4

[candid marsh]

tbf with the game. It would be really hard to make a tutorial for this cause there are a lot of possibilities depending on what are you trying to build

[whole drum]

Nah, just have the manual available in game via Codex

We don't need to overthink it

[ivory condor]

hmmm that good idea

[spring root]

setting up a 15x3 coal powerplant now that i have mk3's (belts) cause i cannot be asked dealing with biomass, this is not too overkill right?

[plain gate]

it's called critical thinking and a basic concept called gravity lol

[whole drum]

Never hurts to have more power

[spring root]

fair

[unkempt blade]

as with the rest of the game

1. leave yourself more space to build than you think you'll need
2. use foundations
3. break big projects into smaller projects
4. use as many factory carts as possible

[candid marsh]

sure... that's what i've said and it took me almost 7 hours to find out the problem lmao

[remote brook]

im in the forest biome should i migrate elsewhere?

[scenic mirage]

4th point is very very important

[whole drum]

Northern Forest has 2 amazing start locales

[unkempt blade]

You'll expand naturally as you need more resources. There's no reason to migrate unless you just feel like it

[remote brook]

i started in the cliff

[quick hound]

fluids are weird

[whole drum]

Just follow your sonar

[ivory condor]

So basically what your saying is I need to understand navier stokes equations to play this game, ok

[hearty kiln]

whats the best spawn point

[whole drum]

Or be a fish

[quick hound]

Or be on drugs

[whole drum]

Anything but Grasslands

[hearty kiln]

welp i picked grasslands

[ivory condor]

I pick a fish obviously

[whole drum]

I'd reroll

But I hate Grasslands. You don't have to.

[white dawn]

Grass Fields is a perfectly lovely starting point

[hearty kiln]

yeah ima get phase 2 then pick other spawn point

[unkempt blade]

There isn't a best starting spot. You'll expand outside of the original spot as your factory grows

[white dawn]

I admit I hadn't used it much until 1.0 but I'd given it another go for my 1.0 save and it's honestly pretty great

[candid marsh]

I mean... it's the same map at the end of the day. just don't fall in love with an spot / factory cause sooner or later you'll have to dismantle and rebuild it

[quick hound]

you building even more factory cart lines?

[whole drum]

Grass is perfectly doable--but the other places are just more fun, imo, because there's a lot more resources around

[unkempt blade]

the carts must flow

[median rain]

Once I get oil processing should I try and get turbofuel and rocketfuel as soon as possible or should I wait until later

[ivory condor]

Personally grass fields is my favorite starting biome

[white dawn]

You can't really take "advantage" of the best nodes at the beginning anyway; I like how a grass Fields start leaves you with the rest of the map unsullied and ready for you, by the time you're expanding out that far

[hearty kiln]

yeah i know just want to start a new game

[ivory condor]

Infact many play throughs i always go grass fields more often than not

[whole drum]

If you do your layout right, you can seemlessly upgrade so you can take advantage

[candid marsh]

oh i see... well forest isn't a bad choice honestly. I started this game there and I had 6 pure iron nodes, 1 pure cooper, 2 normal and 1 pure limestone

[white dawn]

If that's what you want to do, sure. I haven't done a playthrough where I "upgrade" anything in awhile though

[candid marsh]

plus some catherium close too

[white dawn]

IMO not worth the bother. I'd rather just expand

[candid marsh]

just be prapared to chop a lot of trees

[whole drum]

Upgrading on those nodes is expanding, but with less work 😉

[unkempt blade]

I just throw a splitter on the miner when I upgrade/overclock and use the resources for a new build

[white dawn]

In general when I finish a factory it's done and I never touch it again

[hearty kiln]

nah blow them up

[candid marsh]

well that too lol

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'll do that too of course. But I still like how grass fields encourages that expansion. :)

[hearty kiln]

gives alot of dopamein if u blow them up

[candid marsh]

i mean, i'm using the +300 inventory slots mod so leaves and wood doesn't bother me

[hearty kiln]

i aint useing any mods un til i beat the game fully

[unkempt blade]

personally my least favorite start was the dunes

I did not like all the steep hills where I wanted to build stuff early on

[whole drum]

That's my 2nd fav

[lost oasis]

does anyone know why my train is highlighted red?

[white dawn]

Yeah, same

[hearty kiln]

its blood

[lofty forge]

bug. it is not a sign for anything

[candid marsh]

I can't live without persistent paintables

too lazy to paint my pipes

[lost oasis]

aight

[hearty kiln]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

im lonely anyone want to play whit meh 🙂

[ivory condor]

yeah its annoying, i always try to find build above the hills of sand every time

ideally just build up enough so you dont have to deal with any of it is my strategy for that biome

[candid marsh]

mmm not me... I can go really toxic in just one second in this game. and I've never played it with someone else lol

[unkempt blade]

when you feel grouchy just take a breath and go build a factory cart skatepark - problem solved!

[hearty kiln]

i mean i never played it with someone else to and i dont care if your toxic or not as long as i can play with anyone

[unkempt blade]

you could try #1201555265942724758

[hearty kiln]

already did

[whole drum]

Playing with others is fun in this game

[reef basin]

though I wouldn't recommend that for first playthrough

[candid marsh]

not when I get frustrated and dismantle everything haha

[hearty kiln]

we got greeny and Mr green peak

[whole drum]

Maaaaybe if it's the 1st time for everyone in the lobby, but that'd be about it

[candid marsh]

imagine going to explore something and your main factory is no longer there cause I just erased it

[reef basin]

keep things working, even bad factory is better than no factory

[hearty kiln]

just means i can builed it better next time

[candid marsh]

I mean... my problem is that I keep finding a better way to build my factories once I've finshed them

[whole drum]

This. The few people I won't play with keep wanting to destroy and "rebuild" everything way too early/often

[unkempt blade]

why not just use them on the next factory and not an existing, working factory?

[hearty kiln]

same

[candid marsh]

dunno... I'm a little bit obsessive so if it's not perfect, I feel like I'm wasting resources

[hearty kiln]

REAL

[unkempt blade]

time is a resource too 🙂

[hearty kiln]

time is money

[whole drum]

In actual fact, destroying a factory that produces is wasting all the other resources on the map you haven't tapped yet

[hearty kiln]

duble it

[candid marsh]

welp... the refineries are working flawlessly now. Mk2 was the problem

[reef basin]

then build new ones in that way

[hearty kiln]

mines to much or to less?

[frail sleet]

Not exactly. The dynamic pressure system scales with the square of flow rate, so mk.2 has much more focus on dynamic pressure while mk.1 is capped at a flow rate which doesn't have nearly as much.

Dynamic pressure is the cause of a lot of the unwanted fluid behaviors. You can actually break a variety of pipe systems by "upgrading" mk.1 pipes to mk.2.

[reef basin]

resources are infinite, you're not wasting anything

[gentle lion]

I'll be adding some more generators later if I run conveyors to then will they fill up without being actually on?

[unkempt blade]

we could solve this with mk3 pipes but then we'd only get questions about trains and that would get stale 🙁

[candid marsh]

yeah I mean... never got to the end game for that reason... i think this is the 4rh time I start a new world. but this time if something isn't as I want, I leave it there til the next tier

as long as it carry me to reach it

[reef basin]

yeah that's one of the reasons why I'm recommending to never rebuild

you get stuck in improvement loop instead of progressing in the game

[candid marsh]

I'm still rebuilding, but not in the same tier

[quick hound]

and laziness is nice

[unkempt blade]

embrace the fettucine belts and progress will be yours!

[candid marsh]

it's like ok I need this and that for the space elevator... ok which resources I have here?

[whole drum]

Yep, which is why you either design with future upgrade in mind, or set it and forget it. Tear down and rebuild isn't usually worth it.

[hearty kiln]

if u dont have all the resources duble it

[quick hound]

if they added mk7 belts, would you use it?

[candid marsh]

The only thing I couldn't find yet is sam

[hearty kiln]

thats easy to find

[unkempt blade]

only as little stubs between my truck stations and my factories

[candid marsh]

I must be really distracted then... which wouldn't be a surprise honestly

[hearty kiln]

in my play trow witch is rn theres sam right next to me

[quick hound]

I dare you to make an entire factorywith only factory carts. Tons of truck stations and factory carts bring every little thing, including ores, and even other basic materials. NO CONVEYERS TO OTHER BUILDINGSOTHER THAN TRUCK STATIONS

[candid marsh]

yeah the only time I saw a node was near the beginning in another save

[unkempt blade]

I double dare you to make a factory only using trains between sections

[whole drum]

Don't feel bad. I didn't find it until 120hrs into my first factory.

[hearty kiln]

btw thes aint a no so?

[hearty kiln]

daym

[quick hound]

Bet

[hearty kiln]

nvm im dumb it says no

[candid marsh]

I think I'm going to take a nap... woke up at 6 am and started playing. is 13:21 here now lol

[quick hound]

I’ll get to work on it, let’s present our builds to eachother tomorrow

[candid marsh]

I'm eepy... sorry ADA

[hearty kiln]

sleep is for the WEEK

[whole drum]

Play too much and it is

[candid marsh]

bruh... i work more for ficsit than my actual job

[hearty kiln]

dam it

[quick hound]

EMBED FAIL

[reef basin]

not fail, they are disabled here

[whole drum]

So auto-fail

[candid marsh]

well 8 GW of power... dunno why cause I'm only using 2,5 GW max but i't will be handy later

[reef basin]

fail would indicate that it didn't work properly, but it did

[quick hound]

[fervent sand]

it was a fail for the user

[hearty kiln]

i make 2470 mw

[fervent sand]

because it did not work as he expected

[quick hound]

I make 80k mw

[reef basin]

well the fail is expecting how things work 😛

[reef basin]

*GW

[hearty kiln]

BET IM FINA MAKE MY COAL GENORATORS DO 100K

[candid marsh]

honestly, once you get fuel gens, coal gens gets quite useless

[hearty kiln]

i know

[quick hound]

And I have something you’ll never be able to have.. 50 alien power augmenters

[candid marsh]

but... you might end up losing 7 hours like me if you don't do it right T_T

[south sinew]

I thought APAs were like 10 sloops each? pretty sure there's not 500 sloops on the map

[quick hound]

Check screenshots in a minute, I found a glitched sloop k could pick up more than once.. and picked up like 2 thousand sloops

[hearty kiln]

nuh uh il have it one day probly even more

it feels like is been 3h but is just been 1h

[quick hound]

There are 106 sloops on the map.

It’s impossible to get my amount of sloops.

[hearty kiln]

107

[quick hound]

169

[whole fable]

I'm looking to start up a HMF build, I have stitched iron plate, encased pipe, and have the option to take steel frame alt, is that a good combo? I'm wishing I could get a HMF alt that doesn't need screws but no luck so far

[hearty kiln]

made you check did i 🙂

[hasty cairn]

🥳 About to hit phase fourrrrrr

[steep tendon]

Hi, I'm about to go back on the game after around a year without playing and for once I'd like not to go back from scratch because I've played like 400hrs but never went further than tier 5-6
I always get burn out or feel like I want to do more than necessary and feel like its too much for me to handle

Any suggestions as to how I may handle this ? Would you recommend starting over with a brand new save ? Or trying to understand my old saves ? xD

[quick hound]

Start over

[whole fable]

I just did, and have enough alclad sheets from crash sites to research hover pack before Bauxite 🤣

[quick hound]

I’m phase 5, without aluminum factory. I have nuclear power, and ficsite trigons being built

I love tickets

[steep tendon]

That's what I'm tempted to do, cause it would be a pain in the ass to try to understand my old saves but I'd love to not get burned out for once and eventually finish the game

[whole fable]

This is my first playthrough since well before 1.0 and its a blast

[hearty kiln]

i love bombs

[quick hound]

Take it one factory at a time

[whole drum]

Just focus on milestones, research, and project parts. Don't go too extra on elaborate bases or decorating (unless you find that relaxing).

[quick hound]

As ADA says” one factory a day, keeps my disappointment away.”

[hearty kiln]

ima going to hit phase 2 then ima restart over again

[steep tendon]

I tend to try to overproduce aswell, but I end up having to rebuild each factory to fit the new ratios once I unlock a new resource, Im genuinely wondering what's the good mindset for me to play this game and enjoy it longterm

[quick hound]

just say fuck it and do whatever, don’t focus on optimization

[silk ocean]

See that UPS 2976. I've flown a lot of planes and that is not good 🙁

[steep tendon]

I'll try that 😅

[quick hound]

ZATIEEEEEEEEEEEEE :>

[silk ocean]

That's me xD

[quick hound]

a pedophile I’m messin

[silk ocean]

I am many things lol

Prob not that

[quick hound]

Was about to say, you weren’t denying it

[silk ocean]

Airline pilot, probably one of those

[lucid flicker]

sup

[hearty kiln]

surp

[quick hound]

You fly airplanes?

[silk ocean]

For my day job, perhaps

[quick hound]

Have you ever had to restrain a passenger?

Midflight?

[silk ocean]

CC are pretty good at that

[quick hound]

CC?

What’s that..?

[silk ocean]

Cabin Crew / FAs

[quick hound]

Ah.

[quick hound]

But you have had that happen before,yes?

[silk ocean]

Sometimes but not usual for the captain to do this

Sometimes, rarely

[quick hound]

Is it true that the captain and co-captain take turns flying during extra long flights?

[silk ocean]

The First Officer

[winter fable]

The factory must grow

[silk ocean]

Yes totally normal to run sectors

[quick hound]

You ever fly to Canada?

[silk ocean]

The FO runs one as PM, the captain runs one etc

[wraith hatch]

yo i just got the game was wondering if anyone would like to play?>

[silk ocean]

Yea

[whole drum]

You ever get close to your annual flight time cap?

[silk ocean]

Yes

[whole drum]

Is that normal for pilots to do?

[silk ocean]

900 hours UK CAA

[reef basin]

I'd heavily recommend to play your first save alone rather than in multiplayer

if you still want to do MP though, please use #1201555265942724758

[quick hound]

Have you ever gotten sick from flying too much?

[silk ocean]

Not sick, tired maybe

[quick hound]

How often do you travel to different countries and return home, would you say in the span of a year?

[silk ocean]

Many countries, always home

Sometimes a hotel

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758

[silk ocean]

Almost always home

[hasty cairn]

lol nvm I'm dumb, I just unlocked phase 3 not 4... oil and trains time!

[fiery pewter]

No, all hail the AWESOME Sink for COUPONS

[quick hound]

What is the most back-to-back flights you have done at one time?

[silk ocean]

I spent 22 years flying for a short-haul. You go to bed mostly at home

[silk ocean]

Domestics and Alicante, etc

[quick hound]

HOW OLD ARE YOU?! I’m only 17..

[silk ocean]

45? ish

[fiery pewter]

You a cargo pilot?

[quick hound]

Zamn, unc status

[silk ocean]

A pax pilot xD

[whole drum]

Most airline companies try to avoid this because a tired pilot is a dangerous flight

[fiery pewter]

Pax?

[silk ocean]

Passenger

[leaden turret]

no airplanes in satisfactory #off-topic-general

[fiery pewter]

Ah

[fiery pewter]

The humble drone:

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144>

[fiery pewter]

0.0

[leaden turret]

can't be piloted, is not a plane 😛

[quick hound]

Brother

Holy shit, you are sensitive.

[whole drum]

You were pretty rude about it

[quick hound]

he’s annoying.

[whole drum]

I don't generally have that problem with Marv

[fiery pewter]

Drone>aircraft<plane

Practically the same

[leaden turret]

cargo plane != passenger plane

[flat gull]

Does anyone know if there is a way to change the background color of text, it’s hard to read the white text on the orange background

[woven sail]

https://tenor.com/view/st-patricks-day-all-right-then-move-along-nothing-to-see-here-irish-gif-20776419

[fiery pewter]

In the signs?

[flat gull]

I put a picture on help/questions

[ivory condor]

Well I have some wild past stories I could share but I really shouldnt bring the drama here

[sonic verge]

are blueprints per game session or can they be shared/uploaded in a different session? (xbox)

[leaden turret]

on console they're (currently) tied to save files

[tiny rivet]

can someone help me with block/path signals, i dont know how they work

[ornate saffron]

Where i have come to the decision to make my blueprints unique for every save I do find this unfortunate

[ornate saffron]

Open a thread in #1038092680493801533 its hard to help here

[nocturne warren]

where can i unlock blade runners? they are not in catherium research tree

[tiny rivet]

alr

[tiny rivet]

theyre in the quartz iirc

[nocturne warren]

oh

[ornate saffron]

Silica to be specific

There is a free pair hidden in the doggo cave too

[nocturne warren]

thank you

im in desert so id rather craft them

[ornate saffron]

Lol fair

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't like that start location

[whole drum]

What's not to like about abundant resources?

[inner echo]

The other two than grassy I find comparatively bland.

[nocturne warren]

i dont really like it either idk why i keep starting new saves here

i like bhopping thought and the dunes are perfect for that

[inner echo]

Oh...except for the full on hard mode without flying one...sorry...I forget the names. I like that one.

Up high in the middle of the map.

[ornate saffron]

Its bland. The dunes are a pain to build around i always make a floating plateform.

I also like going to the dunes in phase 5 with m6 belts and devastate the landscape

[ornate saffron]

The north forest start is my favorite

[whole drum]

I actually find the dunes the easiest to build in. Just climb a dune and put foundation at the top. Tons of open space.

[nocturne warren]

north forest has annoying terrain low key

[ornate saffron]

It forces me to build uniquely. Its what I like about it

[whole drum]

It does, but arguably the best starting spots.

[inner echo]

It is definitely one of my faves...but everytime I start a new save I have the intention to walk everywhere so that I might actually decorate/make walkable this time. That lasts all of an hour.

[nocturne warren]

should i move my base somewhere else i was going to rebuild everything with tier 3 belts anyways

[ornate saffron]

I move my hub to wherever my current focus is.

[inner echo]

Next thing I know I'm installing the ultra hoverpack mod and going forward with my airborne self.

[whole drum]

No, just finish that factory and move on.

[nocturne warren]

everytime i start a new save and get blade runners moving feels so much better

[nocturne warren]

what do you mean?

[nocturne warren]

my focus is build cool factory

[median rain]

What should I do with my overflow of plastic and rubber so my generators don't shut down

[ornate saffron]

Awesome sink

[median rain]

Ok thx

[whole drum]

It's seldom worth it to tear down and rebuild. If you want to build a factory somewhere else, just do that. No need to tear down what you leave behind. Just hook up what you want to the DDs and leave it.

[inner echo]

I think most of us just go build the new factory to do what we need now using what we have now. You can destroy and rebuild the hub endlessly (I suggest not using the built in storage box)

[nocturne warren]

ohh

[whole drum]

Set a smart splitter to feed into a storage container and one of the splits as Overflow into the Sink

[inner echo]

yah...I leave most my early factories to fulfill my early-early-mid game construction needs.

[median rain]

Yeah that's what I was gonna do

[whole drum]

This way you have a reserve of those materials

[ornate saffron]

I mean for example if im building a monster rocket fuel powerplant. Ill move my hub there. So when I die I spawn near by.

And I will die. I often kill myself lol

[nocturne warren]

whats a fun location to move to

[median rain]

You could also just put a hypertube cannon right by your hub if you don't wanna move it

[inner echo]

I don't usually open a new biome until after coal/steel starter factory.

[ornate saffron]

For sure. There is many choices. This is the one I use

[nocturne warren]

i already have thatr

unlocked tier 3 belts and thats all i needed

so now im free to choose a new location for my factory

[hasty cairn]

I want to move to the northern forest from the desert, I always thought it'd be a fun challenge to work with the lack of space

[inner echo]

Just base it off the resources you need for the next project...keep it nearby.

[hasty cairn]

to encourage me to build vertically

[fervent sand]

where are you currently?

[nocturne warren]

desert

[fervent sand]

Rocky or sandy

[nocturne warren]

sandy

[whole drum]

Some of y'all let your ADHD get the best of ya 😅

[ornate saffron]

Lots of space. You just gotta be creative. I made a cliff side base jutting out of a a cliff. Using a elevator to get to the top or bottom.

[fervent sand]

honestly when I started in dune desert I just built my better factory somewhere else in the desert. It’s quite big

[inner echo]

Are you moving into oil processing then? Whichever you pick...I highly suggest just throwing your first refineries (it's like 6) down in the dirt just to make plastic/rubber for unlocks. That's one starter factory I do just wipe off the map. It's 'small' and uncomplex. (meaning easy to mass delete)

[nocturne warren]

nah im tired of the desert

i have multiple saves with factories in the desert

want something fresh

[fervent sand]

Could move to the spire coast

[whole drum]

When I did back to back Rocky Desert into Dune Desert, it was a refreshing change to go into Northern Forest

[hasty cairn]

I kept driving south until I finally hit green, I think it's a swamp.

I think I'm gonna package my oil/water and just truck it around, easier that than trains atm

[nocturne warren]

what biome is that

[nocturne warren]

yeah ill do that

[nocturne warren]

is that the new biome with like waterfalls

[whole drum]

If you start in N. Forest and run directly north and jump off the cliffs, you'll be there

[fervent sand]

west of the cliffs

[nocturne warren]

im looking at the map and it has very little copper and iron and is only rich in oil

[whole drum]

Sounds about right

[fervent sand]

ye but it's an interesting place to build

looks cool

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

power shards automated, now i REALLY need to do nuclear

[hasty cairn]

I really wish we could limit how many items are allowed into a container

[nocturne warren]

im not sure if thats exactly what im looking for

[ornate saffron]

I had planned on going nuclear but Nitro rocket fuel is just to good

[nocturne warren]

wdym?

[hasty cairn]

Like, how Factorio does it where you red out the cells up to a certain point so it can only hold that many stacks

[ornate saffron]

I built my power plant with the abiloity to double up my current production. Im currently making 140gw

[hasty cairn]

Well, rather, it will only accept that many stacks from input machines and belts but you can add more manually

Congrats you are making 14 times the amount New York City consumes in the summer

[median rain]

Even though its really slow, I love using the zipline on my big power lines to get around

[whole drum]

You know the sprint function works while zipping?

[pine patrol]

JUST STARTED MAKING MY OWN POWER SHARDS 12 A MINUTE

[ornate saffron]

Shift to gain momentum. Zipping also conserves momentum so you can jump sliude to gain speed then latch on. You can also launch yourself with a rocket pack burst then re attach

[mint fossil]

I don't have access yet, but it sounds a bit like Minecraft create mod

[scenic mirage]

dubs, i just setup my power shards too im making 23.68 a minute

[pine patrol]

epic

[nocturne warren]

after reading this 2 times still not quite sure what you mean

i might be stupid or it might be because i didnt play factorio

[ornate saffron]

I think he is referring to my 140gw of power production

[ornate saffron]

What are you doing with them?

[scenic mirage]

nothing rn but ill be throwing them in factories

[spring root]

gotta love when you try to specifically avoid water pipe shenanigans and AFTER you built and designed the area you realize that no, 8 coal powerplants require 3 water pumps not 2, and it becomes pipe spaghetti anyways

[warped holly]

I recently unlocked aluminium and I just found my machines idle due to lack of space to place more water, that's ridiculous

[ornate saffron]

are you talking about the water bi-product

[warped holly]

yeah

[spring root]

i do agree that there should be a way to just...let water byproduct go back into nature

since it is just water

[glad quest]

pure ingots my guy

[ornate saffron]

the best way to deal with the by product is to use it. I like Wet concrete

[spring root]

i mean i am not saying that there are not ways to use that water byproduct

[warped holly]

me too, why can't I simply throw it away, it's just water

[glad quest]

not efficent to pump water in then expel it

[warped holly]

currently I just leave it on a buffer and from time to time go there flush the buffer

bc I didn't unlocked any further processes

computers are my bottleneck right now

[scenic mirage]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

page 14 😉

[leaden turret]

reminder not to link to the abandoned trashfire

it's pinned in #math-and-meta

[spring root]

abandoned trashfire?

[scenic mirage]

huh

[leaden turret]

fandom wiki is abandoned trashfire

[spring root]

i mean

that is not fandom though