satisfactory

[sudden flint]

this is a weird inside joke with myself please ignore

[sturdy mural]

you never seen a duck say quack off?

[unkempt blade]

did you know factory carts are faster driving in reverse than forward?

[sudden flint]

nope. Well, the first part, yeah, but never off.

[hard ivy]

Much easier with alts

[sturdy mural]

so quack on then?

[exotic needle]

I have iron motor and caterium computers/circuit boards, what else would I need?

[sudden flint]

stop quacking bad jokes ;)

[unkempt blade]

did half the channel just discover strikethrough or something?

[sudden flint]

Steel rotors, Iron Pipe, Iron Wire = all iron motors. :)

[exotic needle]

Thats what I meant by iron motors lol

[sudden flint]

oh lol

[sturdy mural]

sorry im just ducking around

[zenith pecan]

I usually use strikethrough to mark something I said as "forget it, it's bloody wrong" 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy mural]

no, bad jokes

[sudden flint]

be ready to find out then

[unkempt blade]

yeah that makes a lot more sense than every message in an extended reply chain

[exotic needle]

strikethrough

[sudden flint]

I use it as I'm saying this thought to myself and pretending nobody sees it when I post it

idk

[hard ivy]

I like turbo electric motor. Plus maybe electric motor. And ofc iron pipe and iron wire for all the stators and rotors

Default AI limiter and RCU are good, so are caterium computer and CB

[sturdy mural]

dont mind me this text is not lore important

[exotic needle]

So I should be good then with a turbomotor alt

I need to expand (build a completely new) computer factory that makes supercomputers and all the radio comps

[sturdy mural]

have fun

[sudden flint]

YES THAT

[dense violet]

up to you, the TM alts do different things.

for example the turbo pressure pads out a lot of resources with just nitrogen. which is easily droned over and honestly something of a trash resource

not used much and lots on the map

[rose pollen]

Console chats dead lmao hi!

[dense violet]

cope console geek 😛 /jk

[unkempt blade]

Nitrogen is the one thing I nearly always pipeline. Not needing to deal with headlift just makes it so nice

[exotic needle]

I will make 100 turbo motors/min

[dense violet]

sure but it's often far away through awakward terrain. And it compresses 4x in packages so drones are chef's kiss

[zenith pecan]

Tbh console chat is mostly for console specific questions, most chat in here because the vast majority of the game is universal.

[rose pollen]

I have both but ive got early arthritis im 19 and id like tonkeep my hands

[wicked nacelle]

if you're playing into end game for points nitrogen is INCREDIBLY valuable and one of the first resources you can run out of.

[dense violet]

do you feel controllers are that much easier on your hands?

[rose pollen]

Yea

[exotic needle]

I now have 3 jobs between satisfactory and the tarkov release 😩

[dense violet]

huh, well afaik you could use controllers on pc for the game for a long while now

[rose pollen]

I have controller stick extenders and trigger extenders so I barely have to move to use it

[rose pollen]

All my friends are on console ik tho

[zenith pecan]

I'm so bad with a controller, If I tried to play satisfactory with it, my builds wouldn't be kilometre long monsters, nope, they would look like wooden sheds assembled by local authority contractors!

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm more of a "build giant rainbows on everything" than a "line/number go up" endgame player

[rose pollen]

Skill issue

[dense violet]

forcing people to play sf with a controller is how I would torture people

[wicked nacelle]

i play sometimes on steam deck... but not when I'm at home in front of my copmuter

[zenith pecan]

Violation of the geneva conventions!

[rose pollen]

Ill send a pic when im done revamping my factory for iron production

[zenith pecan]

Have you even seen what I build 😛

[rose pollen]

No can I?

[sterile blade]

||Adding to what SamRI kindly explained, spelling a character's name backward is a lazy way to name an "evil version" of said character||

[rose pollen]

Id really like inspiration

[zenith pecan]

Here's an example #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I got you #screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

what about changing all the M to W?

[exotic needle]

rainbow

[rose pollen]

Im sorry sir.

I didn't know your game

[placid stirrup]

Alucard: >:(

[rose pollen]

This is fire ngl

[exotic needle]

not this #screenshots message being right under that build

[zenith pecan]

I do kinda play outside the rules just by building places like this though #screenshots message

[rose pollen]

Hey I do too! And power line

[zenith pecan]

Actually this #screenshots message is right under that build, still ordered, no spaghetti down there 😛

[rose pollen]

My power lines in my factory are hidden inside the roof its a 1m foundation

I haven't unlocked roofs yet

I focused on everything else

[sterile blade]

You might be interested in looking into Valve's controllers

[zenith pecan]

I mean literally, tunnelling 101 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68 , I build entire networks kinda like scp facilities under the world.

[zenith pecan]

I grew way too used to having an 8 button mouse & mechanical keyboard, some habits are too hard to break, I'm no spring chicken these days 😄

[rose pollen]

Can I d9wnload maps still?

[sterile blade]

Not with that attitude! :P
Jokes aside, how easy it is to branch out to new horizons depends on how stubbornly we set into our own ways... ||says a former only-MK-user||

[zenith pecan]

I have been using a controller on my batocera machine for the past 6 months, I'm just too imprecise with the sticks.

[sterile blade]

#off-topic-general

[half comet]

Can we no longer use conveyor lifts to display items? As mine always flip to theb other side whenever I try placing them to show off the items

[median geyser]

Is there a way to set console commands to launch on startup? Like setting fog to off, etc?

[dense violet]

it depends on the order you place them, up or down. Try a different order of operation

[past cargo]

From a programmer perspective, you can likely set up a script to do it for you when the process starts

[half comet]

No matter which way I do it the hologram shows it the way I want to place it and then the game flips it when actually building

[median geyser]

So something I run after the game is started to input the strings automatically?

[dense violet]

console?

[half comet]

Pc

[dense violet]

so say if you're going from input to output, go output to input instead

[past cargo]

I suppose so, you could also have one run on boot that checks if you're game is running at all time. If its running it could go through each setting you want changing e.g. fog and switch it for you

[half comet]

I tried both ways and neither work

[past cargo]

There are definitely libraries out there that can use your keyboard, im sure of it

However, I play on console and just happen to program a lot and do it for my studies, but just a suggestion

[dense violet]

are they going between 2 splitter/mergers? or just building against something?

[true mulch]

it is possible by editing config files, but idk which exact files you have to edit and how to apply the commands

look for steam guides on the topic

[half comet]

Nope no splitters, only thing against is portrait sign

[dense violet]

try using temporary splitter/mergers to build between instead. Could lock orientation in place

[urban ledge]

hey yall question, i got an mk2 miner on a pure node of coal, no overclock so just 240/m. how many coal gens can i power when i only got mk3 and below conveyers?

[dense violet]

240/15

[half comet]

Well im using a mk2 miner atm with mk3 belts and im powering 16 coal gens

[urban ledge]

firstly, imscared how

[half comet]

Because thats how the maths works?

[urban ledge]

im barely getting 10 to work SOBB

[half comet]

If you have 240/min coming in divided by 15 per min thats 16

[dense violet]

check their control panel, are they running out of coal or water?

[urban ledge]

FORGET 10 ONLY 8

[urban ledge]

coal

[half comet]

What belts are you using?

[dense violet]

check if your miner is backing up. You might have a piee of low mk belt

[urban ledge]

im loading it through a sushi belt

could that be the issue?

[dense violet]

I mean maybe, you could be going over the belt limit, or you aren't sinking the excess material well

[half comet]

What belt version are you using? As in mk1 or 2

[wicked nacelle]

Watch the belt rate before and after each coal generator and if you see it suddenly at a different speed you may have a hidden low tier belt inside the splitter. You have to get rid of splitter to fix that

[dense violet]

in any case this sounds like a #1038092680493801533 post time, you'll need overhead images of what you're doing and all the numbers of things you're working with

[urban ledge]

mk 1 belts

... i understand my issue now, thanks

im using the wrong belts =v=

[dense violet]

just use mk3 belts everywhere.

you'll wind up with fewer issues like this

[half comet]

Yeah you need mk3 belts

[wicked nacelle]

The most you can get is the lower number between the miner and the belts

[half comet]

That didnt work either

[dense violet]

last trick I can think of - use a frame foundation, it's 0.5m thick, put a floor hole in it, have it near the bottom/top of where you're building and try to use it to lock in the orientation

[half comet]

I’m already using floor holes as im trying to get it to act as an item display for a central hub rather than using signs

[dense violet]

have you saved and restarted since you were having these issues?

[charred sandal]

I have 8 assemblers making 90 wire/m converging onto 1 MK5 belt...and theyre stuttering. Why would they be stuttering? 8*90 is 720. Mk5 is 780.

[half comet]

Yup, and ive seen other people having these issues too so think it might have been removed from the game

[dense violet]

couldn't tell you sorry. I haven't played in 1.1 yet :\

no mods?

[sullen gull]

Out of curiosity, serious question, is there a reason for that? No interest?

[half comet]

Nope fully vanilla

[dense violet]

soz then, I've exhausted everything other than jumping into your world and fiddling with things but it sounds like you've covered things pretty well

[charred sandal]

AKA 2 belts of 360 merging into one mk5 belt, and both the 360 belts are stuttering before they merge.

[rigid glen]

There has to be a bottle neck somewhere, maybe show an overhead in screenshot

[charred sandal]

#screenshots message

[half comet]

This is my first time playing in 1.1 so was confused too when it didnt work as I thought its something alot of people used

[dense violet]

I mean I used to be able to keep the orientation of lifts to do exactly that too?

[charred sandal]

I think I understand whats going on.

Theyre stuttering because the wires come out in spurts.

Rather than a steady 90pm per machine

[rigid glen]

yes, you would need 90/min belts to be steady

[placid comet]

I feel I should know already but if my belt capacity is at 270, will the feed never exceed that amount no matter how high I clock my miners?

[rigid glen]

Correct

Belts are always the limiters

[dense violet]

for most of the game your nodes will be limited by your belt speed

often times pure nodes won't be much higherr output than normal

[placid comet]

I just feel embarrassed cause I had my coal miner set to 600 per minute thinking it made a difference. I dropped it to 270 and my production hasn't suffered in the slightest

[wicked nacelle]

yes, if your miner is faster it will just fill its internal buffer and then stall until there's room to put more in

[wicked nacelle]

I like to just leave them at 250% so then when you upgrade the belts you just get more out right away - you don't have to remember which miners you have clocked at what

especially if they're overclocked but not 250% then they still show up as blue

[placid comet]

Right, but I'm heading that way eventually for that reason, I can tweak it then. For now I need to optimize power consumption. I once dug myself into a power failure spiral. I ain't going back to that

[wicked nacelle]

if you're so close that a miner or two overclocked will put you over it's time to just make a lot more power.

I like to keep my power production at 150% of my "current consumption" to always feel safe building another factory and not worry about power.

until late game that's a pretty easy ratio to maintain

right now I'm at like 95% but that's super late game - way past end of the story

[terse kindle]

Is it inefficient to connect one dimensional depot to each of the outputs on a single industrial storage container? Will the container just prioritize a single output to flow once there's additional space in the both dimensional depots? Or will it allow both outputs to flow at the same time, giving me effectively 480 uploads/min to the dimensional depots instead of 240? (The industrial storage crate only contains one type of item).

[plain gate]

assuming you use 240/min belts... yeah

ISC does not distribute outputs

[bold python]

are packagers broken?

[rigid glen]

upload speed is the bottle neck, 1 or 2 outputs doesn't matter if the 480 is being met

[dense violet]

no? what are you doing?

[bold python]

I have everything flowing in and the packager just isn't taking the fluid into it?

[dense violet]

are the outputs full?

[brazen coral]

Is the molded beam a better recipe or the cast screws a better recipe, I already used my scan and that's what came up

[dense violet]

show an image of hte control panel and how it's set up in #math-and-meta

[terse kindle]

cast screws

[autumn ravine]

I need help

[dense violet]

depends what you're doing

are you needing screws in your next project? cast might be good

want to save on steel for beams? that might work better for you

[autumn ravine]

Can someone help me?

[dense violet]

you relaly can't compare recipes like that

[brazen coral]

Yeah cuz it pretty much skips a whole step for sure

[dense violet]

no because you haven't said what your problem is

[autumn ravine]

There’s something stuck under the ground I need to delete it

[bold python]

I took a single sc and it started working im gonna lose my mind

[dense violet]

wrong channel

[brazen coral]

I mean I think I'm fine on just getting the rods into screws cuz I already have a setup for that running now and it would take a bit to reconfigure. It already looks nice

[dense violet]

another reason you can't just compare recipes like that 🙂

for example you might choose screwless recipes after

[brazen coral]

But is the molded beam putting out more beams the first recipe or is it just wasting time

[dense violet]

compare them - as mentioned they exchange concrete for steel. So you save steel but spend concrete
you have to decide if thats a good trade

[autumn ravine]

You never help me

[dense violet]

use a save editor
or
reload a previous save
or
check out a method to clip into terrain , youtube has examples

[dense violet]

pinged you in #math-and-meta

[brazen coral]

I might just keep gaining recipes and see what's better cuz the more I have in the library the same ones won't pop up again

If I don't choose any yet

[dense violet]

all recipes are useful. You just need to use them in their situation.

[brazen coral]

I should be getting pretty close to oil production, but that's a whole nother monster

[rigid glen]

beginner oil is ok, tier 2 oil with new fuels is way more complicated, and alt recipes work wonders here

[brazen coral]

Yeah I still have to finish phase two, I was working up to getting a a more effective assembly line with smart splitters cuz I just unlocked those

Super helpful if you want to do a sushi belt

[rigid glen]

The thought of using a sushi belt gives me hives

[turbid gazelle]

One thing I really wish in terms of use and overall coolness is radiation shielding

[brazen coral]

I've had my run-in with radiation and I hate it. So far, I'm only certain that step 7 I think?

[rigid glen]

Ya, it's less scary once you unlock the rad suit and filters

[turbid gazelle]

For example, you can place concrete foundations to shield it and make barriers

Similar to Chernobyl

[brazen coral]

I probably got a lot of things unlocked that I might not have had I not done a lot of the landing sites for the hard drives, got a lot of advanced material that I shouldn't have gained yet lol

[turbid gazelle]

Where there was the nuclear waste and if you went around a corner there would be a bunch of radiation

[brazen coral]

Also, is it rare or extremely rare to see one of the pig things with a jetpack?

[turbid gazelle]

Pig things?

[brazen coral]

I just saw one buzzing around. I'm like what the f***

[tall lantern]

imagine if that actually worked in this game

[dense violet]

fairly rare

[turbid gazelle]

Exactly, how cool would that be!?

[brazen coral]

So I gained a jetpack that was kind of cool

[turbid gazelle]

I would make a mini film on a nuclear incident

Like a reactor blowing up or smth

[weary stream]

how do i get satisfactory tools to use an alt recipie?

[dense violet]

uncheck the base recipe

that will force it

[tall lantern]

enable that alt, and possibly turn off the one you don't want it to use

[thick flame]

"bad puns can result in a lifetime ban"
What the hell happened there?

[weary stream]

thanks
also is there a way i can tell it to use previous products for later production

[dense violet]

imo that's the best way to use it, swap recipes rather than enable everything. You can sort out a good location much better that way

[dense violet]

yeah, in the inputs tab, create that input

it'll generally use that first

[weary stream]

nah but like

within the same factory

[dense violet]

uhhh it should do that automatically?

[stone python]

yes, just add the other product to the factory list

[weary stream]

like if i made 100 modular frames and wanted to use half of that for heavy frames

do i have to manually half it

[dense violet]

have multiple outputs

[stone python]

just specify how many heavys you wana make

[weary stream]

ok

[stone python]

and it will give you a factory with x amount of heavys and x amount of regulars

[stuck barn]

Anyone ever get the Session Creation Failure error when loading into a game?

[weary stream]

hey this is kind of related to my alst question
someone suggested its good to make 100 modular frames, and half of the previous frame type until i hit pressure cubes (50 heavy, 25 fused, and 10ish pressure cubes)
do u think they meant to keep all of the frames at each step, or did they mean to use half for the next frame?

wwyd

[dense violet]

100 mf pm is a LOT

[tall lantern]

that sounds like wack-ass advice

[stone python]

personally i create isolated production lines and just take what i need from it to feed the new factory up to 60%, leaves me enough for building

[tall lantern]

but probably the latter

[dense violet]

at least for going up the tiers

[rigid glen]

I make 10/min and that's slooped lol

[weary stream]

i like to make satellite factories

but i thought it would be cool to make all my cubes in one place

and then the factory would look like all 4 of the cubes stacked on eachother

[dense violet]

I mean yeah, cube away

[stone python]

cubeception

[dense violet]

but 100mf pm is A LOT just on their own

[weary stream]

so that guy was wrong

[dense violet]

I mean it all depends on your goal. For personal use, 5pm would be more than enough for me

but you'd need more for HMFs ofc

[stone python]

only 100mf PM? psh, gotta do 100 HMF pm

[weary stream]

i want this cube factory to supply any other factory that needs cubes

[dense violet]

if I'm making my own projects when I've unlocked every thing ? then I could make 1000 in their own factory for my own reasons

[weary stream]

so this would supply my nuclear pasta once i get there

[dense violet]

do it then 🙂

[weary stream]

100pm?

[stone python]

pm= per min

[dense violet]

but I would probably make dedicated custom factory for your nuclear system. IMO you want to have dedicated infrastructure for power systems

[weary stream]

wait you need nuclear pasta for nuclear setup?

i thought it was just for space elevator

[dense violet]

i think you need pressure cubes for the waste?

[weary stream]

ohhh

wont i need a ton of those then?

[dense violet]

can't recall off the top of my head, but yo uwere just mentioning them linked to nuclear

[dense violet]

prob not much. I think there's a recipe path that doesn't need them?

[weary stream]

i meant nuclear pasta but i didnt know u needed them for nuclear setup

[weary stream]

oh i might use that then lol
idk yet tho

[dense violet]

pls take my comment entirely to do with having spoken like the theoretical factory you were talking about was going to be linked to a future power system 🙂

[weary stream]

alr

[dense violet]

and yes, I just checked, you can avoid cubes for the plutnoium chain easily

[weary stream]

oh wait

yeah the recipie that uses them is an alternate

[dense violet]

and isn't a common recipe used I think

[weary stream]

so purely for space elevator i shouldnt need that many

[dense violet]

prob not. Turbo motors need cubes?

[zenith pecan]

My old plutonium setup was all defaults, fairly simplistic relatively speaking compared to using the cubes.

[weary stream]

i think thats an alt too

waitttt

[dense violet]

ah yeah, only one of them

Although I do like that alt

[weary stream]

actually you need pressure cubes for ficsonium

[dense violet]

only if you do ficsonium 😛

[weary stream]

i will prob do ficsonium since i dont like to have waste

[dense violet]

don't burn the plutonium rods, no waste

[weary stream]

trueeeeee

[dense violet]

sink them, use them in drones / trucks

[weary stream]

alr so final ammounts i should have

[brazen wraith]

Ficsit does not waste

[weary stream]

probably like
50mf
25hf
10ff
5pcc?

[tall lantern]

instead of trying to guess the future, why not wait until you actually know how much you need for whatever you're making

[weary stream]

i wanna futureproof

im designing a building

so i wanna know an estimate of how many machines ill need

so i can know the scale

[tall lantern]

unfortunately that is highly dependent on what exactly you end up building and at what rates

[weary stream]

true

[tall lantern]

so you'd need to plan out your future production lines yourself to know that

[cloud halo]

who couldve knew that a solution to my unstable energy is an AWESOME sink or two!

[fickle geyser]

how do i use pipeline floor holes without shit breaking

like i genuinely cannot place even one without it fucking up

its like its connecting the pipe to the wrong side of the hole but its not

[dense violet]

could be any issue, not enough headlift, trying to feed the machines from below? would have to see it

[fickle geyser]

cant send images

[dense violet]

every other channel you can

[fickle geyser]

no its a placement bug the fluid is moving down

[dense violet]

this is the worst channel to trouble shoot problems

[dense violet]

pick a channel to trouble shoot - link/paste images

[weary stream]

#design-and-architecture message need to know the ammount of each bc im assuming the higher the tier the more complex, thus more machines, thus more space, thus being at the bottom, so id need to build the factory space for the later ones first

[fickle geyser]

k made a thread

[autumn ravine]

Can someone help me?

[dense violet]

is this still the item clipped into the ground?

[zenith pecan]

I usually go in after a clipped item where feasible, a simple tube print can do that.

[dense violet]

that was one of the suggestions yes

they seem to dislike taking advice for problems they ask about

[zenith pecan]

I even posted a clip showing the method at one point for someone else.

[autumn ravine]

I just moved my station

But I have a new problem

[dense violet]

sure, what is it?

[autumn ravine]

I set up a train and it is fully connected from one place to the other, but it just says it’s unreachable even though it isn’t

😭

[zenith pecan]

Is one of the stations in backwards?

[dense violet]

you probably have a train station facing the wrong way

post overhead images in #math-and-meta

of the stations I mean

[autumn ravine]

Which way should be facing?

[tall lantern]

or no engine facing the right way

[autumn ravine]

I have two cause my thing is a straight line

[zenith pecan]

(] [] [] ======== [] [] [) , sorta like this, the round end facing the direction of travel for the engine.

[autumn ravine]

I think I have a pretty good guess of which one is wrong and so I’m gonna go flipping around and see what happens

[north summit]

Bad Automated Wiring goes into the Awesome Blender

[autumn ravine]

I fixed it both of them were wrong

lol

[autumn ravine]

And thank you so much

For all the help you’ve given me today

[dense violet]

no prob, it's probably the most common train newbie mistake

[autumn ravine]

lol

[autumn ravine]

One more question

Why is it not loading?

It’s just pulling up and then driving away

😭

[quick barn]

The depot is either empty, has no power, or is on unload instead of load

or the vehicle is full

[dense violet]

check the platform, what is it set to?

[autumn ravine]

Unload

And the other one set to load

[dense violet]

Could be unpowered then or not connected properly. Check the side of the platform building, there should be a square sign , is it lit up or grey?

[quick barn]

#satisfactory message

[autumn ravine]

You mean the name of the station

It’s lit up

[dense violet]

no the side of the platforms 🙂

[dense violet]

look at the image of the platform of the wiki here, it has a lit up square at the top https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Freight_Platform

[autumn ravine]

I thought you just powered the front the station then everything else powered

[dense violet]

you might have built it wrong, sometimes it doesn't click

or another hiccup happened

or possibly when you rebuilt your stations it didn't click properly? I can't recall if you need to rebuild platforms if you remove the station and put it elsewhere

[autumn ravine]

Would the train be the first or last thing in the group of platforms?

[dense violet]

every platform has to be behind the station, away from where it's facing

so if you just flipped your station and didn't put your platforms behind it that sounds like the cause

(] [] [] ======== [] [] [) like Taro put up

curved bits are the stations with the rectangle platforms behind

[autumn ravine]

When I had the station facing forward with the platforms behind it, it did didn’t work

And when I flipped them, It did

[dense violet]

hmmm if you're still having issues I think it's time for overhead images of your stations. Put them in #math-and-meta

[autumn ravine]

K

[rich meadow]

does anyone else not wanna start building full factories until I get like all the stuff from the AWESOME shop because I dont wanna miss any options for building 😭

[silk ocean]

It's crazy how much of the support infrastructure and reprocessing I've had to scale up just after adding another 5 overclocked nuclear reactors to an existing 15 overclocked reactor setup xD

Fuel is much easier 😄

[main orbit]

does anyone have the link to the modding discord as the link is invalid on the satisfactory modding documentation on docs.ficsit.app

[feral geyser]

@main orbit dm sent

[mortal summit]

is there a way to make all nodes be pure?

doesnt have to be vanilla, can be through changing some files/using a mod

nvm found sth, now i just need to figure out how to install mods in satisfactory

[median geyser]

So Im building a coal generator station with 60 genes. I have 900 coal coming down from 3 ore nodes, so 3 lines of 300. Ive layout out the generators into 5 lines of 12, but Im trying to plot out how Im doing to split 3 lines into 5 without a dozen or two splitters?

[fervent sand]

manifold

[median geyser]

So just run a 5line manifold in the middle of my input, and feed all 3 lines into it?

So much easier than what i was thinking lmao

[fervent sand]

each line is 4 rows of gens, so you can manifold one line into 4 rows. Or make a balancer if that tickles your fancy.

[median geyser]

Ive been trying to wrap my head around how that maths since you said it. There's 5 lines of a dozen genes, not 4? But in theory its the same, just add an extra row to your example photo?

[fervent sand]

oh wait I thought you said 12 lines of 5 🧱

[random garnet]

I’m remaking my first coal power plant into a 8 generator version would it be best to split my mk2 miner on a pure coal deposit into two conveyer lines or just have it all funnel in ton the 8 generators

[median geyser]

Man had me sitting here like "...I swear that math doesnt check at all... but Im in here to ask people smarter than me how to math, so surely... if I try that maybe... the fuck was he even....???"

[fervent sand]

just grab the 3 to 5 load balancer form scim and call it a day: https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/balancers/detail/index/id/3to5/name/3+to+5

and each of the outputs can go to it's own stack

[median geyser]

#screenshots message Alternatively, make it a free for all 😂

[fervent sand]

this can only end poorly

[median geyser]

Yes I see the many issues with the division 😂

[fervent sand]

but am too lazy to fix

[median geyser]

Im already removing and looking at the load balancer diagram 🙏

[feral geyser]

there is a mod for it

[mortal summit]

ye i already found it ty, just need to install the mod manager etc, but ty

[fleet oar]

Can someone tell me what I can improve on my 2x2 (4 assembler) array blueprint?

[feral geyser]

make it 3x2

splitters can split into 3, after all

(don't get mad at me)

[full thorn]

What’s better in the long run regularly made copper sheets or steamed copper sheets?

[fleet oar]

Fair enough. It was just a quick job cause I wanted a compact format for assemblers instead of a shitty ass blueprint I had been using before I sent an image of it in screenshots if you haven't already seen it

[dense violet]

mods can do anything. But you might as well just get a mod that buildes nodes if you're removing logitstics problem solving

[feral geyser]

steamed is nice if you don't mind refineries

[mortal summit]

btw also, is there sth similar to factorios rate calc mod, or is there no mod just websites that are kinda tedious to use? cuz i cant fight any mod thats similar to it

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[feral geyser]

idk, i don't play factorio

[dense violet]

if you mean ratio splitters? probably. But you already have tools for that with clocking

[fleet oar]

Isthat meaning other than satisfactory calculator or whatever it is? I don't use it do I don't really know what it can and can't do

[mortal summit]

no its basically just a tool with which u can copy a section of ur factorio and it tells u exact inputs/outputs and u can turn the number up

so u dont have to do math by hand

[fleet oar]

Ohhhhh. I'm not a factorio player so I wouldn't know but I don't believe so. I doubt there's a mod for it either.

[feral geyser]

that just sounds like Satisfactory calculator

you don't control things from there though, just a calc and planner

[fervent sand]

would have to be a mod, and I have not looked at mods for sf. Sorry

[dense violet]

the game is about dedicated production lines with lots of clocking control and belt throughput being extremely limited comparatively.
you often need multiple full belts to do basic projects so just 'crank it up' isn't really an option

[mortal summit]

it doesnt crank it up, what i meant is, u can do like what would output/input be if it was 2x the space u marked, or 3x etc

[dense violet]

you create blueprints in satisfactory if you want to make multiple identical sections.

[little shale]

Where do I craft the rebar gun?

[fleet oar]

Equipment workshop or whatever the name is

[charred sandal]

why my game go down 🙁

[fleet oar]

? Can you explain.

[charred sandal]

server just retarted lol. ignore me :3

[fleet oar]

Ohhhh ok

[mortal summit]

i still need to get used to the verticality that wasnt existent in factorio, especially with aspects like the blueprint, cuz its basically infinite in factorio, but kinda limited in satisfactory so u kinda need to make good use of the space

[little shale]

It's not showing up though. I think I only have the materials to research it, but it's also not my active milestone...

[fleet oar]

It isn't a milestone lock. You research it in the mam under the category of alien megafauna or whatever

[edgy swift]

Is satisfactory crossplayer?

If so, how do you do it? We have added eachother on epic

[feral geyser]

between steam and epic, yes. between console and pc, no

[edgy swift]

We have xbox, but it is linked to epic

[feral geyser]

i would ask in #satisfactory-consoles

[edgy swift]

How come on xbox it says "Enable Crossplayer"

Is it only for Console-PS

[steel kelp]

Im building a mega base, i have all the resources being trained in. The aim is to build ~50 per min of the phase 4 parts (not pasta tho). do we think itll be logistically/aesthetically better to have a bus with all my raw resources, or should i have a floor dedicated to processing raw resources like iron and copper into ingots

[fervent sand]

floor dedicated

[steel kelp]

i think so too

[fervent sand]

busses in sf are ehhh....

[steel kelp]

i say bus very liberally

it will just be stuff that is transported to various floors

[fervent sand]

I'd just start building wherever you want and see where that takes you tbh

[steel kelp]

okay i mean thats not what i was asking about lmao

i already have it all planned out, it was just a question of where to process iron and copper

i have like 10k of each per min coming in, so i guess it makes sense to condense it down

[fervent sand]

presumably near your inputs

[steel kelp]

which inputs do u mean

[fleet oar]

Constructors assemblers etc I presume

[steel kelp]

thats the opposite of what he intially said which is why i asked lol

[fleet oar]

Oh ok I just got on so I wondered

[fervent sand]

sorry I am very low on sleep I am... not in the best headspace to be answering your questions. But, what I mean is to have a floor dedicated to processing raw resources near where your inputs are (inputs being raw materials)

I shall sleep now

[steel kelp]

oh yah okay thats what i thought u meant

[lethal geyser]

Imagine making blade runners

[fleet oar]

I am semi confused by this statement

[lethal geyser]

I found blade runners

[fleet oar]

Dang

[lethal geyser]

And a Xeno basher

[fleet oar]

Crazy

[proper cradle]

mayhap got annoyed with power this play thru... not at nuke yet (phase 3) and currently rocking 15000 mw. another short burst of 5000 mw when needed from my bioreactors and 50,000 MWh battery system... i better not have another blown fuse...

(max consume atm is only 6300...)

[steel kelp]

i just started playing on xbox, am in phase 5, and i have no idea how people struggle with power issues. Literally just make more before u get to the point where ur system cant handle it

im at phase 5 w an avg consumption of like 30k

[proper cradle]

... i making silly big builds

[steel kelp]

so do i and its really not that bad

[blissful latch]

how does one fix the train "signal loops into itself" when building a T-junction?
it only happen when a certain block signal is placed at the intersection

[steel kelp]

600 crude gets ur 130gw

[proper cradle]

i have have collected every node in the cliff starting and working on the rocky desert...

[steel kelp]

p sure its just blocks at the exits, make sure the intersection is level w the main track

[dim cradle]

I beat phase 5 with ~5GW less power available than your average consumption

[steel kelp]

600 crude gets ur 130gw...

[dim cradle]

It's definitely possible, but it definitely did get tight.

During phase 5, everything uses so much power

[steel kelp]

yeh totally feasible, i have just been making things from scratch in the same factory

[steel kelp]

yeh but even then its not too bad

gives me an excuse to try nuclear power lol

[blissful latch]

Yes and Yes

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message I mean...

It was... kind of that bad...

[steel kelp]

this makes me v anxious

[steel kelp]

ngl i dont know then, id have to see a photo

[dim cradle]

Well you have 5k more power than me. That honestly would have been a lot

I set up my first end-to-end nuclear chain and that went up to 70k though.

[steel kelp]

i have 60k production

[dim cradle]

In that pic I was relying on geothermal and sloops

[steel kelp]

just with mostly turbo fuel and a bit of rocket

[dim cradle]

Which wasn't much energy to go around

[steel kelp]

but my rocket system can go up to 130gw by itself, but i just havent bothered to place the generators

[proper cradle]

yea i have 1 pure and 2 norm crude oil into i think 18 turbo fuel generators...

[dim cradle]

I think I can set up another 2 or 3 of those end to end no waste nuclear lines now

Had enough power to sloop my singularity cell constructors

[blissful latch]

#screenshots it is there

[dim cradle]

but it was a fun little challenge

[steel kelp]

can u send a photo w the block signal in ur hand so i can see the colours of the blocks

[steel kelp]

? 1 pure crude node can do like 240 rocket fuel generators lmao

u just need blenders

[proper cradle]

dont have access to blenders yet

[steel kelp]

even then, you should be able to have more than 18 turbo fuel generators

[proper cradle]

18 at 250%

[steel kelp]

i had 1200 crude do 64 overclocked gens

for turbo fuel

[blissful latch]

sent #screenshots

[steel kelp]

im not too sure, but maybe check the orientation of the block signals is correct?

failing that, maybe u need to place more signals further down the line it is broken on

[blissful latch]

ive checked that

[proper cradle]

with what i have its the best i can do atm. need more unlocks lol calc in the screenshots

[blissful latch]

fixes it but it looks bad...

[steel kelp]

lemme see if i still have my plan for turbo fuel

[proper cradle]

once i get blenders and a few recipies it will drastically jump

[steel kelp]

oh yeh i had blenders when i did mine lol

but yeh it lets u turn 1200 crude into 40 gw

but i wouldnt rebuild, i would go straight to rocket fuel once u get blenders

[proper cradle]

right now im rebuilding my iron again for the nth time... i love the cliff starting zone... 4 pure iron so close together

[austere wyvern]

So uhh, I just finished my 144000mw power plant and I dunno what to automate next, like all I have really automated is copper sheets, wire(360/m) (240 ore) , quick wire 45 rotors per minute, some plastic and rubber(600 crudes worth) , iron plates and rods (480 ore) and steel beams and pipes (mk2 normal node) and a tiny amount of Aluminium, what and how much should I go for next lol?

[steel kelp]

dont rebuild just build new stuff

[proper cradle]

na, build, rebild 3 times, repeat

[lost oasis]

guys. i need help i got 5coal gen 4warer extractors pipes are full of water even extractors bzt there is barely any water in coal generators whats causing the issue?

[proper cradle]

got to opotatomize and make pretty

(play on potato and optimize)

i want drones so bad

[lost oasis]

im just so pissed that thw water dont flow properly to coal generators when it says pipes are full of water where are the water extractors

[austere wyvern]

Are the pipes really connected, are the generators connected to a power pole

[versed mesa]

Hi all

[proper cradle]

i find that making coal gens below the storage makes them run better

[feral geyser]

show screenshots

also, you only need 3 extractors per 8 gens

[lost oasis]

i dont have perms for it

[feral geyser]

#screenshots

you will need 2 Mk1 pipes to carry the water too

cuz they can only handle 300/min each

[blissful latch]

got it fixed

[versed mesa]

Is there any setup help plans out there to get a good idea where to have what factories and for also Automating Transportation?

[lost oasis]

irs just eating the water fast, but extractors are full of water and it isnt pumping yk what i mean

[blissful latch]

apparently build it in a certain order is the way to go

[feral geyser]

no i dont

not without some context

[lost oasis]

one sec

[versed mesa]

Can anyone help me with this please

[feral geyser]

trains are nice.
build wherever you have the resources for stuff.
anything anyone says will only ever be a suggestion

[lost oasis]

yeah im consuming so much power then and i dont think my fsctory is that big

[feral geyser]

so that's entirely unhelpful

i need to see your actual set up

[lost oasis]

Join the game then

[feral geyser]

you are on console

[lost oasis]

nvm then

[feral geyser]

i don't join peasants

[lost oasis]

Alrighttt

its such a complex tho

[versed mesa]

I know am just been struggling and not even sure what todo now with my factory where to produce what and where to start with transportation because I'd like to eventually have stuff set up like the best people have it and am pretty struggling I feel am at a dead end and I also having hard tome with my head still with trying to get better from my Anxiety and depression and ive got high functioning Autism

I love this game but my head is now feeling like its really struggling on what todo next i know am on phase 5 now and my main goal is to complete this and other goals is probably get different factories producing different stuff and stuff and really have great Auto transportation

[wicked vector]

hello satisfactorycord, could someone perhaps help me figure out why my coal isn't working

[feral geyser]

first of all, yikes

second of all, none of your water stuff is running

[wicked vector]

the generators have water and coal in them but they aren't running and say "no power". they are connected to a power grid which should have plenty of power from a legion of batteries

[lost oasis]

Bro im happy that it works

[feral geyser]

apparently it doesn't, that's why youre asking

[lost oasis]

well because coal generators dont have enough water

[versed mesa]

Coal please state more info your miner or Coal Generators?

[wicked vector]

generators, sorry

[feral geyser]

yes, because your water stuff is not powered

[versed mesa]

For one is the coal set up to go to the gens ?

[wicked vector]

the water and coal are balanced correctly, im just not sure why they aren't running when they have both in them

[feral geyser]

run them on biomass burners until the system is filled, then hook it up

[wicked vector]

they are filled

i'm upgrading the setup and running all my power off batteries rn

[feral geyser]

talking to the other guy

[wicked vector]

everything else is running but the generators are not

[lost oasis]

Dude you domt get it, When is it powered the coal generators ran out of water

because extractors dont pump enough water

[versed mesa]

@wicked vector do you have them hooked up to the power grid ?

[feral geyser]

well, for one, you know pipes have a throughput limit, right?

you can't run 4 extractors worth through one pipe

so that's the first big problem

[lost oasis]

You want me to split them into like 3outputs?

[feral geyser]

second of all, you should have them on their own separate burners until the system is self sustaining

[lost oasis]

I do

[feral geyser]

you can have 3 extractors running through 2 separate pipes to go to 8 generators

[lost oasis]

mk2 pipes im guessing

[feral geyser]

no, Mk1

if you had Mk2, this wouldn't be a problem

[wicked vector]

figured it out, headlift problem (of course it was)

[lost oasis]

Alright thanks dude helped a lot

[versed mesa]

Weird because ive got around 13 coal gens or more set up and with roughly half of them ive got like 6 to 7 extractors pumping water to them and roughly same fir the rest

[feral geyser]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[feral geyser]

enjoy those pics

[lost oasis]

much love

[feral geyser]

it'll work it you have more water extractors than you need, just not less

[versed mesa]

Funny thats because when i have them over clocked some struggle with the water keeping them film from the middle ones left and right sides

Ive try to mess with them many times but still can't figure out why its happening they seam set up fine to me

This is my starting location in green land

[dim cradle]

Hold on let me just spread my 120/150 propaganda here. I like 2 extractors, with one overclocked to 150 and the other at stock, hooked up to 6 coal plants. I'm strange but that's just my pref

[feral geyser]

that works too

[dim cradle]

I like it because it's just simple and no fuss and you save a bit of space on the water

[feral geyser]

you could always just 225 clock a single extractor too

[dim cradle]

Or 270 a single one lol

[feral geyser]

that is a 225% clock

[dim cradle]

270 is exactly 6 coal plants, so y'know max space savings

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser so out of all my coal gens ive got like 4 of then on overclocked but struggling to stay filled up where the ones next to them are filled up the water meters its really strange because there should not be much of issue with them and water

[dim cradle]

Late game I think I prefer to just overclock everything to keep things a little more compact

[feral geyser]

i realize i didn't put the percent in the first one

[feral geyser]

i recommend not overclocking stuff generators until you know how to get it work without overclocking

[versed mesa]

Right but the rest are good and they are overclocked

[feral geyser]

it they are at max, then they are consuming what, 112.5/min water?

[versed mesa]

Idk

[feral geyser]

bruh

you gotta know these things

[versed mesa]

I dont do calculations i just build and wing it

[feral geyser]

then i can't help you

have fun with that strat

[versed mesa]

Great lmfao

[feral geyser]

only advice i can give: take out the shards from the gens

learn how to do it normally first, the numbers are much nicer and easier to deal with

[versed mesa]

Yeah the ones that are struggling to fill the meter

[dim cradle]

I just do it all at once, wing it while calculating and building it

which may be why I have pasta

[feral geyser]

building more gens is inconsequential

[leaden turret]

not quite inconsequential: #satisfactory-memes message

[dim cradle]

Well I know Nuclear plants just use a commensurate amount of resource with their overclocking...

and produce the exact same amount more power...

I suppose if you just wanted to work with more even numbers, you could

[feral geyser]

i'm sick of that template

[versed mesa]

What i do is i build but I get one up running if it looks good ill turn on more machine while keeping eye on the intakes making sure they are getting what is needed and staying full

[leaden turret]

[dim cradle]

Lol I posted an idea early of a completely pipeless factory

just nothing but packagers and belts everywhere, pipes only at the end products before immediately being packaged

No overflow ever isn't it great

Then I realized I was too lazy to implement it

[leaden turret]

oh it's totally fun to do, if you have the patience.

cos you can use smart splitters to control resource flow, unlike w/ plumbing

[dim cradle]

Because I actually rarely have issues with pipes

[versed mesa]

Rpught my turbo fuel factory is much of better job I did with it and ive recently added more fuel gens because ive got enought being created and not the the refiners are at 250% yet so I can expand more if I wanted to

[dim cradle]

I just keep it simple, everything is a noodley mess and you can't tell anything apart but it just works

But no one looking at it in 2 months can tell you how

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett

[feral geyser]

i've been on a horror binge tonight. The Wolfman (new), then The Exorcist (old), now Carrie (old)

[leaden turret]

someone keps forgetting that #satisfactory-memes doesn't take text

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message

I did indeed... and then I made more #screenshots message

The nuclear did take a bit of tweaking after a reload to get rid of the water from that blender but after that a few tweaks and it was working 100% efficiently with no waste :smug:

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[dim cradle]

but they really made it pretty expensive to get rid of the waste huh

Singularity cells required ...

[versed mesa]

Me I did not know

[leaden turret]

low density carbs

[versed mesa]

I try sending this in there lmfao to the pipe meme

[dim cradle]

That one right below the linked one... I mean... my favorite screws recipe is 5 steel beams for 260 screws

that one's bloody good

There's also the one that a lot of other people prefer where you just... don't use screws ever

I think the only reason my factory isn't an even more tangled mess than this is just because I prefer to build less buildings while overclocking like crazy

[feral geyser]

i'm the exact opposite, i'll round up machine counts and underclock

[dim cradle]

With nuclear in particular I discovered a pretty good end to end set of ratios that interact with the recipes well

[versed mesa]

While I am taking a break i am going to invest into new game on 20th November

[dim cradle]

1 uranium at 187.5%, 2x Plutonium at 250%, 1x Ficsonium at 250%

Very little footprint... if you don't count all the stuff I have to put down to convert the waste...

Well "discovered" meaning it's probably in the wiki anyway or someone has something way better but you know lol

That first odd uranium is to make it so you get exactly 75 non-fissile or w/e per min which converts really nicely into the rest of it.

[versed mesa]

@lost oasis if I was you I'd work on making your pipes tidier lol

[dim cradle]

nah dude they got this... except like...

is that mk1 pipe?

[versed mesa]

Almost close to what my pipes was looking like when I first unlocked and set up coal generators lol

[lost oasis]

bro i dont care how it looks i only care about if it works 😂

[dim cradle]

because you got like 5 water generators hooked up to mk1 pipe

[lost oasis]

im new to the game dude

[versed mesa]

I get it same here lmfao

[dense violet]

everyone is new at some point, it's all good 🙂

[versed mesa]

Me to with 500 hours in lmfao

[dense violet]

but tidy piping helps with 'working' piping

[dim cradle]

well it's just that you're trying to push 600 m^3 through 300

[versed mesa]

Facts lmfao

[dim cradle]

So unless they're heavily underclocked a lot of those water gens are just doing nothing

[lost oasis]

im good i know what where connects😂

[versed mesa]

Have you even got the water extractors overclocked?

[dense violet]

it's not the connections, fluids are affect by gravity and shape of pipes

coal generators can stand a lot of BS though

[dim cradle]

wait they're overclocked, too?

[lost oasis]

Hell yeah

like 2of them are overclocked twice

[versed mesa]

Thank goodness for that lol

[dense violet]

you know pipes have a flow limit right?

[lost oasis]

or 2 of them on max idk

[dim cradle]

yeah you don't need that many

like... less than 2 of those... would max out those pipes...

[lost oasis]

Yeah i get it

Mk1 pipes are just slow thats why my coal gens are dying

[dim cradle]

yesn't you could just split your gens up into different pipes

[versed mesa]

@lost oasis Just get them all boosted to 250% witch is max

[dim cradle]

that aren't connected...

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[lost oasis]

If i do that i dont have enough power to power them up😭

[versed mesa]

There's me trying to help and I cant even get my own issue solved lmfao

[dense violet]

beginner friendly set ups.
I recommend finding a lake with 3-4 coal nodes next to it and build groups of those

[lost oasis]

But im trying to move my hub somewhere else since my water sourse is soo tiny

[dim cradle]

Right now my character is just traveling around in a hyper tube hoping I'm near my kind of ridiculously long truck route right when it happens to run over something...

[dense violet]

just move your power station. Don't need to move the rest

[dim cradle]

I don't think this is working...

[lost oasis]

you said you were tier 5?

[dense violet]

don't expect for everything to be in one spot , the game forces you to spread out

[dim cradle]

Does anyone know if like... I can put multiple trucks on the exact same truck route

will they just kind of be happy and not intersect

if I just space out when they leave

[steel kelp]

Can anyone reccomend some videos similar to the one below. im on console so i need videos to help me design super compact, stackable blueprints like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgxknxp3-Go

[dense violet]

if you don't record them going head on? it'll be fine

[versed mesa]

Well add biomass burners with that support then then over clocked the extractors once you see the Generators are getting the water needed then gradually overclock coal generators

[dim cradle]

I need to raise the probability that they just happen to roadkill as I'm going by them in the hypertube

[versed mesa]

No phase 5 lol

[dim cradle]

so I'm just wondering if I can load up the same exact recorded route for all of them

[dense violet]

not really. But every compact video will be similar, squeezing belts and pipes around

[devout pulsar]

Anyone reached world build height by any chance ?

[dim cradle]

I'm pretty sure plenty of people have

[steel kelp]

ive not found any which are like this, he fits 8 smelter into a mk2 (i think) and is able to stack them so you can process 1200 iron ingot per min

[lost oasis]

my friend built some tubed that launched me to space and yeah..

[steel kelp]

would be perfect for my base

[versed mesa]

@lost oasis am on the big daddy stuff now and or boy lol

[dense violet]

what I mean is you'd just do the same thing but with different machines

[devout pulsar]

Just looking for help to get the trophy for ps

[dense violet]

also I think you can fit 20 smelters into a mk2 pretty easily so not sure what is going on?

maybe more

[lost oasis]

you got materials for itm

for those tubes idk how exactly is it called

[dim cradle]

how are 8 smelters doing 1200/min, like max overclock?

[steel kelp]

he just stacks it vertically, there is a lot of space left on the side

[steel kelp]

it ends up being 16

[versed mesa]

Hypertubes

[proper cradle]

was going to bed early, but then i started satisfactory 4hrs ago to play for an hour...

[dim cradle]

Well just 8 normal smelters is like what, 240 ingots/min normally?

[versed mesa]

Lol

[dense violet]

fair, just do the same thing with assemblers and shit. Don't need a full video for it

[devout pulsar]

The hypertubes yeah I’ve got mats for them ?

[steel kelp]

i guess i need to play with it myself a bit

[versed mesa]

Hypertube Cannon

[dense violet]

it's good practice building and laying out logistics anyway which are critical skills

[steel kelp]

guess so yeah, i need to get my mk3 bp and then ill start toying with it

[dim cradle]

Just some tips and tricks, if you want auto connect, make sure you have a belt going out to the side. That trips a lot of people up

[steel kelp]

i made ones which are pretty compact, but they stack horizantally rather than vertically

[lost oasis]

Yeah launch ur self to the moon

[dim cradle]

nah mk2 and even mk1 blueprint is plenty for just making working things

I have made a vertically stacking smelter setup in mk1 which has 9 smelters

[versed mesa]

They call it Hypertube Cannon

[steel kelp]

im in phase 5 and have a lot of stuff to process for this base, so i want to just maximise my space

[devout pulsar]

I will have a look on how to do that thank you 🤣

[lost oasis]

Its eating energy like crazy

[dim cradle]

Which fwiw only uses one small vertical stack, could probably even be 27 of them if I wanted

[wicked vector]

hypertube cannons my beloved

[versed mesa]

I've not played with hypertubes yet

[wicked vector]

i haven't played since EA but i'm assuming you can still generate enough velocity to destroy space and time

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message I made this vertically stacking 3x3 smelter manifold in a mk1

[versed mesa]

@wicked vector ive got a mod installed that unlocks hypertube pipe walls lol

[dim cradle]

at some point though it was easier to just do a horizontal 7x7 in a mk2 tbh

feed line in the middle, facing outwards and connect the ends

could have made it vertically stacking if I wanted now that I think about it

[versed mesa]

@wicked vector do you have mods installed?

[wicked vector]

9 smelters feels like an awkward number

nah I'm doing a vanilla playthrough to see all the new stuff since EA

[dim cradle]

9 smelters is 9*30 which just happens to be 270

[versed mesa]

Yeah just like 10 lmfao

[dim cradle]

Which just happpeeens to be a mk3 belt

Which might just happened to have been what I was using at the time lol

[wicked vector]

I don't even bother maxing out mk 3 belts tbh

[versed mesa]

Good for you mate I just need that extra variety with building

[dim cradle]

I'm doing vanilla too

Kind of wondering if I should either try some mods or just quit the game though now. I've kind of done everything I've wanted to in this.

[wicked vector]

I've played modded before, it's fun, I just wanted to see what's changed since I haven't touched the game since like 0.4 or something lol

(it's a lot)

[dim cradle]

I hadn't played in 3 years till recently

I wouldn't say it's a super lot, it's kind of backloaded but some of it is really good

[versed mesa]

Damn thats fare

[dim cradle]

Dimensional storage is a godsend.

[wicked vector]

dimensional depot is goated

getting map in like tier 1 or whatever is goated

[versed mesa]

Specially when you really are building alot

[wicked vector]

honestly all of the progression feels very smoothed out which is very nice

[dim cradle]

Some of the stuff I was using mods for 3 years ago was solved by blueprints anyway

But I do miss the power armor thing

It was very fun

[versed mesa]

What is it

[dim cradle]

It was like a mod where it integrated the radioactive stuff, the poison immunity, jetpack, etc all into one power suit

and then started also getting crazy health regen and speed as you upgraded it more and more

eventually got ridiculous but was very expensive

[versed mesa]

Nice

[dim cradle]

A lot of the purpose was because back then you couldn't have all the different equip slots like you do now

but I think it exceeded what you could have equipped in vanilla, but you really needed to invest in it

[wicked vector]

being able to actually equip everything is so good

idk why it was ever like it was before

[versed mesa]

It is good 👍

[wicked vector]

also shout out to the lock hologram button

godsend

[dim cradle]

Never actually used that, what's it do

[versed mesa]

@wicked vector did you hear a leak on whats coming in 1.2 ?

[wicked vector]

locks the hologram so you can move/look around and you can nudge the building in any direction

[dim cradle]

welp never used that, sounds useful

[wicked vector]

helps a ton with lining stuff up where you have to place it from a weird angle

[dim cradle]

yeah I hate placing large blueprints

can't see jack

[versed mesa]

Lol

[silk ocean]

Are the inverted up corners (1m/2m/4m) the only real options for diagonal foundations? My design skill level == potato

[versed mesa]

@wicked vector they are adding fuel storage Trucks

[wicked vector]

#screenshots message chat how do I get this asshole off of my floor

[dim cradle]

If you detonate a bomb near them, they run away

[wicked vector]

he is on the 2nd floor

[dim cradle]

Probably will still run away

[wicked vector]

there is not enough room for him to be up here I need him like actually gone lol

[dim cradle]

could maybe run him over too lol

[versed mesa]

@wicked vector give it the finger treatment lmfao

[dim cradle]

well you could also just kill them

but they only do what is natural

[shy mulch]

Just kill him

[wicked vector]

can you actually kill them now

[dim cradle]

... whatever it is that's natural

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[shy mulch]

When could you not kill them?

[dim cradle]

Thought you could always, but maybe I'm misremembering

[wicked vector]

the Old Days™

i trapped one and threw like 100 nobelisks at it

homie just vibed

[versed mesa]

Lol

[dim cradle]

Too bad you can't kill the giant flying manta ray, never could

[wicked vector]

i killed it and it's still in the way of me building so basically i have a beached whale on my power plant now

what a game satisfactory is

[dim cradle]

He was just trying to tell you that your taxes were overdue

homie trying to save you some fees with the IRS

[fleet oar]

Oh I know what will do the trick! More nobelisks OFCOURSE.

[wicked vector]

if it can't be solved by belts or nobelisks i want nothing to do with it

[fleet oar]

True that but I was hoping you'd get the reference and if you did tell me actually add trains to that list

[wicked vector]

nope B)

[fleet oar]

I forgot the name of the incident but there was an incident where some smartass irl thought it would be a good idea to blow up a dead whale that was beached with fucking dynamite. Guess how that ended

[wicked vector]

oh yeah i heard about that

incredible work honestly

[silk ocean]

That's an old classic video

[dim cradle]

Guess they were a part of Daud's Whalers

[fleet oar]

Also for me if it can't be solved with trains belts or nobelisks I put it off until it becomes a burden to my sanity

[dim cradle]

(no one will get that)

[wicked vector]

was that a dishonored reference

[dim cradle]

Oh someone got it

It's a great series... that's unpopular...

Also nothing can't be solved with belts, nobelisks, and trains let's be real

[wicked vector]

i never finished the second one honestly

[fluid sapphire]

shall we gather for some whiskey and cigars tonight?

[fleet oar]

That is true

[wicked vector]

why build trains when you can simply build psychotic mega belt buses

[fleet oar]

Also I wonder which show is currently getting dog watered on for looking like framelock and the seven deadly frames had a baby (opm s3)

[fleet oar]

We are not doing factorio chat. Embrace the mega factory. EMBRACE THE SPAGHHET

[wicked vector]

you know what satisfactory really needs?

[fleet oar]

Tell me

[wicked vector]

stinger invasions

make like 100 of those little bastards run out of a cave so i can watch them get mowed down by automated turrets

[dim cradle]

I've always embraced my spaghetti #satisfactory message

[fleet oar]

Honestly it'd be free DNA. I'd love that

[fluid sapphire]

indeed why spend days building what you could build in weeks (or months)

[wicked vector]

why would it take you weeks

you can run belts across the map in like 20 minutes

if that

[fluid sapphire]

adds up over time, every time you need something new, you need to build more

train lines are one and done

[fleet oar]

It's probably more the fact you then have the infrastructure from trains to make new ones whereas belts have to be seperaye

[fluid sapphire]

reuse ad infinitum

[dim cradle]

Well if it helps you with your bloodthirst right now I'm experimenting with using automated truck routes combined with a hypertube that travels along the route, to see if I can make an automated kill/meat farming loop, but... I think I made this too long....

[wicked vector]

now this is the kind of satisfactory i'm here for

[fleet oar]

Truck routes make me want to kill myself. They really need to rework it

[dim cradle]

Statistically the chance of me actually being aligned with where my truck is at as it's running over something is ridiculously low.

Which is why I was like well maybe I can just put like 20 trucks on the exact same route

_>

[wicked vector]

Here's an idea

[dim cradle]

but idk what the respawn timers are or if they even do respawn

If you're in the area

I made this hypertube so long that I think I used like 3-4k steel pipes making it

[fleet oar]

Dang that's crazy

[dim cradle]

or maybe it was less, I know I did run out of dimensional storage though lol

[fleet oar]

Dimensional storage? I haven't unlocked it and I am at stage fucking 3

[shy mulch]

Seems like a lot of effort, surely it's easier to forget the truck and just go kill the stuff yourself

[dim cradle]

This is a game about automation

If I can't automate death then what even am I doing

[fluid sapphire]

stage? phase? tier?

[shy mulch]

Why would you not unlock the best thing in the game

[fleet oar]

I don't know. I wish to suffer

[wicked vector]

shrimply go unlock it

[silk ocean]

Loads of my trains seem to be pulling up in-station in the wrong position, like overshooting a bit. Cranes are often out of alignment. Weird

[fleet oar]

Mb lmao I ment phase I'm on crack

[fluid sapphire]

get on that, its a game changer

[fleet oar]

I will eventually, I just REALLY have to rework my copper factory

[dim cradle]

I'm starting to think there's a trick to this that would make this simpler. I wonder if enemy respawn is triggered somehow...

I've noticed them sometimes respawning very frequently and other times not at all 🤔

[fleet oar]

Currently it uses ZERO foundations and is the definition of spaggheti

[dim cradle]

Nah just build more on top of it

I never rebuild anything

[fleet oar]

Fahh nah it's genuinely horrible

I started in the northern forest for SOME REASON

[dim cradle]

bruh I spaghetti'd an entire megafactory together

it just works (TM) (somehow)

Actually I do balance inputs pretty well as I"m yolo building

[fleet oar]

Tell that to my 2x2 assembler array that I taped together

[dim cradle]

The thing is like...

at some point you get smart splitters

and then you stop having to use your int stat at all.

Don't know how much everything else is using? Just use the overflow

[fleet oar]

That is true

[dim cradle]

Smart splitters are for making you stupid, embrace it

[wicked vector]

never used a smart splitter in my life

we out here building tidy manifolds

[fleet oar]

I shall embrace it once I feel I have mastered normal setups

[silk ocean]

Overflow?

[wicked vector]

exactly my thought tbh

i produce as much as possible and use it all with all my machines at 100% efficiency is that not what everyone does

[dim cradle]

I use up 100% of however much ore I have at the moment

but then I tend to overproduce on some intermediates in case I want to branch them off later

[silk ocean]

If 100% efficient then I guess no need

[dim cradle]

and that's what I do since I built everything in one spot

Super lazy and all

[wicked vector]

fair

i plan to mostly hang around grass fields for a while and then once i can actually build i'm gonna get silly with it

[fluid sapphire]

storage and sink at the end of a production line is a pretty common approach, makes sure everything keeps running even if you are not immediately routing the extra somewhere

[dim cradle]

Idk some people find it hard to build everything in one spot or something, I kind of preferred it even if it did get spaghetti

[wicked vector]

kinda want to build a giant suborbital nuclear pasta factory 🤔

[dim cradle]

I like being able to criss cross inputs and outputs between lines

[fluid sapphire]

brain overload

[silk ocean]

Satisfactory Space Age DLC? 😉

[wicked vector]

god please

[fleet oar]

Honestly for a megafactory what I have tried is making it a tier floor system where each floor will assemble tiers of parts like iron plates on the bottom floor reinforced second do on so forth

[fleet oar]

Yes please and a underwater expansion that would be AMAZING

[silk ocean]

xD

[wicked vector]

I like to build lots of smaller factories and just belt stuff around as needed

[dim cradle]

Lol nah mine was just... #screenshots message all on one floor...

mostly...

I put the sloop generators at the top of the world

[fluid sapphire]

just opened the game for the first time in 2 months, feels so strange lmaoooo

[dim cradle]

Then I got reeaaaaaaaallly lazy and started just shoving my nuclear on random cliffsides and crap lol #screenshots message

Ran out of room and had to make platforms though... takes so much to convert to ficsonium

[fluid sapphire]

omg

[wicked vector]

josh from lgio, is that you?

[fleet oar]

Oh sweet God.

[dim cradle]

I don't even know what's surprising about those images, nothing compared to the factory

[fleet oar]

It was more so the words.

[fluid sapphire]

my ocd ass could never

[fleet oar]

I allow for clipping as long as it isn't visible or is for aesthetic purposes

[dim cradle]

Yeah who would clip things really

How evil

[wicked vector]

#screenshots message nice n tidy 🙏

[fleet oar]

Show me the horrors

[fleet oar]

Peak cinema.

[dim cradle]

Well the "horrors" are this video #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

phew

[dim cradle]

but The Horrors are also a decent band

[fleet oar]

For some reason it won't load

[dim cradle]

Well this is the end of phase 4, so you can just take this and multiply it by about 2-3fold #screenshots message

Idk why the video won't load tho

[wicked vector]

oh my god

[fluid sapphire]

literal aneurysm material, i cant handle chaos at all, everything must be orderly

#screenshots message

[fleet oar]

Ho-lee-fuk

[dim cradle]

Like that empty cliffside in that first picture was taken up almost entirely by phase 5 machines

and I had like 2-3x the belts everywhere

[dense violet]

it's just some spag. nothing weird

[dim cradle]

and some constructors on top of belts and stuff

[wicked vector]

bro took making pasta to heart

[dim cradle]

But yeah this is pretty normal, I've seen better

Also like look at you and that silly hazmat suit. I built the entire nuclear facility with no hazmat

I was too lazy to unlock it...

[fleet oar]

How...

[fluid sapphire]

i am no stranger to spaghetti but it needs to be orderly hehheheh

#screenshots message

[dim cradle]

Look as long as it works...

[wicked vector]

autism vs adhd in the chat rn

[fleet oar]

This is my kind of spaggheti. Clean and orderly and kind of fun to look at#screenshots message

[dim cradle]

I do have something like that kinda?

[fluid sapphire]

its more orderly for sure, still chaotic for my pea sized brain

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message When I first started I made a 9-1-9 load balancer

and to test it I hooked it up to my 9-1 merger

It was kind of stupid expensive to build though

[fleet oar]

The main point of that blueprint was to try get a 2x2 assembler that I could just quickly hook up and be in a small form factor and not look like a dog's breakfast. I think I succeeded

[dim cradle]

I essentially wanted to try to fit an up to 9 input/output load balancer into a size 1 footprint

[fluid sapphire]

i think you did, i just like mine flat xd

[dim cradle]

and then I brought down the inputs/outputs for even more clipping

Which made the entire thing stupid expensive to build because there were just bloody lifts everywhere

[fleet oar]

Pfft. I like mine kibitz styled with a bit of psycho_987 seasoning topping it

[dim cradle]

after that I just started using manifolds...

[fluid sapphire]

understandable 😄

[fleet oar]

I might eventually try rework it to look a little better but I'm happy with it now

[dim cradle]

... which is kind of funny that I'm referring this as some distant thing because I only started this game a couple of weeks ago or so...

(after quitting for 3 years)

[fleet oar]

That explains the fucking huge discrepancy between your understanding and time in this server

[fluid sapphire]

hell yeah, as long as it works and you are happy with it, i just think its nice to trace where things are going at a glance

[fleet oar]

Yeah. I even added signs so I knew what was what. I will also make a 2x3 assembler blueprint tommorow

[dim cradle]

I think I'd get bored of making the thing neat if I tried though

[fluid sapphire]

it can take a lot of time and trial and error for sure

[dim cradle]

Reminds me of that time in digital circuits class they tried to teach us to put everything neatly on the breadboard. That lasted for like... 1-2 times. Then it was just chaos on everyone's board.

[fleet oar]

The thing is that isn't as fun as the crack that is satisfactory. FICSIT does not waste, that includes employees

[dim cradle]

🤔

[fleet oar]

What is bro cooking

[dim cradle]

Nothing much, head mostly empty, but randomly thinking about the story spoilers channel and connecting it with that statement

[fleet oar]

Head empty no thoughts ficsit is going to disown you for lack of efficiency. Your body will be recycled

[dim cradle]

I was gonna say they can't get max joules out of my head when it's empty but... I suppose it's all the same

[fleet oar]

They can extract neurons out of your fkn hair if they wanted. Remember the convertor?

[dim cradle]

Couldn't they just convert my head into filled

[fleet oar]

No, turn into truck. Embrace red truck

[dim cradle]

Or at least try filling it with activated SAM and/or dark matter

Just see what happens

[fleet oar]

It must be activated as that will increase efficiency! The most efficient employee after all is one who doesn't have to think about stuff. They just do.

[dim cradle]

Activated like a Windows license

I should probably sleep

[fleet oar]

You probably should. Fiscit may like your commitment however a tired employee may make mistakes, and mistakes are heavily shunned (u didn't see a mistake)

[runic sage]

i just ifnished all the last tiers, and starting the phase 5 items. do i get multiple nodes of every resource transfered to my factory via trains before making the phase 5 items?

[green fiber]

up to you

you could also process stuff elsewhere first

and then bring in more "finished" products

[runic sage]

so process things like modular frames and such somewhere else?

[green fiber]

yea

like... why make the modular frames in the factory where the other stuff is made

they are just iron

[runic sage]

do i only do it for items that require 1 or 2 different ores or for all the more basic things

[green fiber]

you can make them near your iron sources

[green fiber]

you can decide how to do that.
I personally draw the line based on if it would be too much effort to bring more resources to a remote factory rather than just brining it all together

[runic sage]

ill make a list of items and please tell me if all of them are good to make seperately or if i should change alr?

[wicked vector]

processing resources allows you to sort of condense them

[green fiber]

Computers is something i tend to make all on-site near oil

[green fiber]

Its not as simple.
it depends on location and resource availability

[wicked vector]

for example if you need a ton of copper powder it's easier to smelt the ore on site and then ship out the ingots to be processed into powder

[green fiber]

While i would say yes to making computers on-site near the oil nodes of dune desert, i wouldnt say the same for the blue crater

[runic sage]

rotors, reinforced plate, modular frame, encased beams

[green fiber]

those frequently need just iron, coal, copper and limestone.
make that decision based on the nodes you wanna use

[runic sage]

rn i have a floor in my factory dedicated to processing the basic items like plates, rods and things that dont require multiple steps to make

[green fiber]

if the copper is too far away from iron and coal, then make basic steel parts that dont need copper there and then bring them together somewhere else along the way

[runic sage]

and basically the more floors i go up the more complex the items

[green fiber]

again - i make those decisions based on local resource availability.
Take a look at the items you wanna make, figure out what nodes they need and then you gotta decide "is it too much effort to bring this all to a sub-factory? or should i just process these seperately near their nodes - or bring it all together"