satisfactory

[turbid merlin]

Im trying to do 10/10/1

Have a molder layout for it. So lets see how i go with it in game

[teal geyser]

Rifle has automatic fire. Rebar gun is one shot, then reload

Different ammo types for each gun

[sinful bobcat]

Currently working on a blueprint for high speed 3 and 4 way train interchanges

Aka no path signals

[feral geyser]

Depends what you mean by "better"

[shrewd palm]

you can shoot a lot more bullets with the rifle

but the rebar gun basically lets you shoot nobelisks with explosive rebar

but the rifle has quite a bit of variety

in what the different kinds of ammo do

[feral geyser]

This is true, however, explosive rebar requires refineries, nobelisks do not.

But also, rifle ammo requires refineries too

[shrewd palm]

the price you pay for being able to shoot them

[feral geyser]

I go turbo ammo 90% of the time, homing the other 10

I haven't used a rebar gun since I got the rifle

[sick falcon]

which is better at killing the big spiders

[shrewd palm]

are we talking big spiders or BIG spiders

[dense violet]

up to how good you are with either

[civic reef]

I love the rebar gun... my shotgun my beloved

[dense violet]

yeah the shatter bar isn't bad for the little ones

[shrewd palm]

i'd probably go with the rifle with turbo ammo for the BIG ones but the big ones and mini ones arent very hard to deal with with anything

[coarse pebble]

Smart plating I just let my phase 1 factory run it
Versatile framework I had the materials to make 1000 so I just put down a few assembler + storage container blueprints and let em do it
Automated wiring I did set up a small factory for that I'll reuse for phase 3

[civic reef]

ofc i just fuck over spiders and add on real arachnophobia

[shrewd palm]

you do what to spiders

[coarse pebble]

I'm considering doing more of what I did for versatile framework and just making a ton of constituent parts and setting up the final step when I feel like it

[shrewd palm]

if you dont mind a bit of a spoiler for the phase 3 materials ||you need 2500 versatile framework||

[turbid merlin]

Fair, i basically bootstrapped my phase 1 factory, need to redo it i think. Its pretty shit. Doing a phase 2 factory just for the SE parts so that makes it a bit easier

[civic reef]

i just replace them with other enemies

[fierce granite]

if you build dedicated factories, those parts can easily be sink points until you find another use for them

[turbid merlin]

Looking at doing a new RIP and modular frame factory as well. Then see how it goes. But i do need to revamp the basic iron and copper factories

Also need to setup a SAM processing centre... Need me the DPs

[sick falcon]

the big ones and the huge ones

[turbid merlin]

That is indeed the plan. Assuming SE parts are high yeilding for the sink

[sick falcon]

the small ones are chill

[coarse pebble]

build a factory for every part
Just a small one even
Having every common building resource on demand is so nice because you can go hypertube over and grab what you need anytime you want

hmm I should build a track and call it Super Factory Cart

[turbid merlin]

Yea, i need to work on hypertubes maybe. Went on a couple hour scavage hunt yesterday for easy to get to hard drives. Got some nice alt recipes now. Iron pipes for one

[coarse pebble]

build blueprints for hypertubes
make a jump pad cannon

one sec

[turbid merlin]

Need to unlock blueprints. Havent just yet

This is my first time back since update 6

So still getting my head around things

[coarse pebble]

#design-and-architecture message
If you build a cannon such that the jump pad is "tricked" into thinking there's no obstructions to the flight path it will boost you full force into the hypertube entrance
If you slide jump into the pad just right you can get speeds rivaling small hypertube cannons

I also have blueprints integrating them into Power Towers so anywhere I string power to, I can add hypertubes and as a bonus they're both well above any vehicular shenanigans and power for an entrance is readily available

[feral geyser]

You are not the only one who read it that way lol

[turbid tartan]

uh

[turbid merlin]

Interesting

[turbid tartan]

i have no pic perms

bruh

[dense violet]

yoiu cant put images in gen

[turbid tartan]

i got the space elevator all the way under the map 💀

[restive agate]

i love tearing down my simple tier 1 iron factories because ive simply found a more efficent or cooler way of building it

[restive agate]

4th tear down btw

[turbid merlin]

Yea, i need to revamp mine. Never overclocked the miners so im "wasting" nodes. Also have mk2 miners now so might as well

[burnt ferry]

You’re wrong. The system works reliably. But it’s probably just a misunderstanding. The sum is definitely more than one full belt because how should I get a full belt out of it otherwise. But i guess that you can’t exceed the total to be greater than two belts and maybe having one delivery belt to be oversaturated won’t work either. That’s the part where I said I’m not sure. You can think about it this way: once one belt is saturated by a second one, that first one is out of the equation and the other one comes in with less than the maximum of all belts for sure. Hence you just pick the next belt and apply the prio/smart again. Now your second belt is out of the equation. Eventually you will hit a point where one belt is not fully saturated by only one other belt as „the next“ belt will carry less and less as the deficit negatively accumulate on that. So when this happens you merge in the next two belts. Or you merge the next two into one and then merge that one which is the same but easier to see this way. So you don’t even have to consider the entirety of the belts at all. You can just saturate them one by one. It even works if you only saturate a subset on of them (as long as production isn’t dependent on all facilities producing for some reason)

[tough narwhal]

i have so many resources to make and no idea what to do in the meantime, i need screwws but i don't have a factory for screws

[dense violet]

don't make a factory for screws, just make screws right before they are needed

[wind quiver]

hey new to the server need help lost my saved game

[dense violet]

save folder location in #faq ?

[wind quiver]

is there anyway of getting it back

[burnt ferry]

But that’s also the reason why I added my workflow which involves a belt management prior merging that won’t have oversaturated belts but slightly undersaturated belts.

In particular the simplicity of my approach beats any other method of load balancing BY far. The setups I found all involved a quadratic or even exponential number of splitters and mergers per number of belts. Which veterans of this game should know is insanity.

I thought someone was saying goodbye hence. I looked back. Unfortunately I only found your untested claims and had to crush you, again 🤣🤣.

So I guess bye bye again 🤣

[tough narwhal]

via handcrafting?

i'm gonna do a thing for screws, i have a spare iron node and can make plenty of screws from that

[shrewd hatch]

why is it never raining

[tough narwhal]

if i do a factory just for screws tjis is going to need quite a few constructors

[dense violet]

no? you make the screws right before you use them in the next process

[dense violet]

what are you using the screws for?

[tough narwhal]

hub upgrades

[dense violet]

that's a finite amount of screws, just siphon stuff off

you haven't even left the pre tutorial yet, just build a handful of machines and catch them in containers

[tough narwhal]

yeah im just realizing there's a much simpler method here

[exotic pilot]

What’s up chat

[turbid merlin]

Whatever is above everyone’s head

[exotic pilot]

For me it’s a meteor

[shrewd pewter]

I posted a screenshot in #screenshots to show it, my "UI buttons" that should be all grouped up in the bottom right corner are scattered across my screen. I've completely deleted and re-installed the game and it didn't fix it. Does anyone know what causes this? Or how to fix it?

I fixed it. If anyone else gets a similar error just go to C:\Users<Username>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved and copy the entire folder out to another place to backup your saves (if you aren't using cloud sync) then delete the entire folder. You'll have to re-set your settings and key bindings but something was corrupted in there somewhere. The game will automatically re-create everything it needs in there when you start the game.

[shrewd pewter]

After further testing I have deduced it was something corrupted in GameUserSettings.ini specifically. I'm unsure what but deleting that file and letting the game re-create it worked.

[cunning siren]

TIL: The Satisfactory Modeler program can run completely independently from steam / epic clients! Ahhh, more freedom from Ficsit... uhhhh I mean "the man" 😆

[shy zenith]

is it possible to do bauxite processing without sinking water?

[civic reef]

reuse the water. excess water can be used to fuel other parts of the system

[shy zenith]

can I prevent it from clogging?

[civic reef]

Yeah as long as your math is right

[cunning siren]

It's also a matter of understanding the liquid parts of this game too

[hard ivy]

Yeah, prioritize using the byproduct before fresh and it doesn't clog

[reef basin]

yes, you don't merge fresh and recycled water

[reef basin]

english only server #rules

[hardy thistle]

sorry wrong channel

[reef basin]

any channel is wrong channel for non-english message 🙂

[hardy thistle]

Good morning everyone, I have a question here, I'm trying to make a distribution line with smart flaps, in a single line, my question is if one of the flaps is full will it let the other materials pass?

[leaden turret]

never heard of smart flaps

[hardy thistle]

Maybe that's not the right name

I can't attach the image

[reef basin]

you can do in #1038092680493801533

[shy zenith]

this makes sense, thank you!

[dense violet]

example image, blue is fresh water pipe, red is waste. Just clock as needed https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1347741162018046083/1347747308623892551/image.png?ex=68f8377e&is=68f6e5fe&hm=4925209b58c63a0bedb9b2e89f6de4f201ed3a0580a591fea424f00be1fc28fe&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[hardy thistle]

Ty 🙂

[cunning siren]

If Water Extractors output was a human: "Grid? I don't give a 💩 about alignment with some fancy pants grid! Imma do my OWN thing! F all y'all" 😆

[hard ivy]

Eh, up/down they're aligned to the water's surface, left/right, you can easily align them to a junction, you only gotta sort out forward/back.

[cunning siren]

Yea, it's that up down part that they are all "whatevez bruh!" about 😆

[bitter coral]

So...how does someone go about getting themselves unbanned from the Satisfactory subreddit? (Got banned a while ago and not completely sure it was fair but at least want to talk to a moderator about it however every time I've tried I've just been ignored)

[hard ivy]

You must be building on some wacky waters if you're having issues with vertical alignment

[cunning siren]

The issue is... It snaps AND it's not perfectly aligned 🤷. It's not user error, it's how it's coded

[hard ivy]

u/Temporal_Illusion responded to my silly issue pretty quickly so I can't say I share your experience of being ignored by the subreddit mods

You can try @ing or DMing them here but if you got banned for the SF sub of all things, I don't think it was unreasonable

[bitter coral]

Wait I didn't know you could contact the mods through reddit after being banned, can you tell me how please and thanks. (i've only contacted the reddit mods on this discord)

[bitter coral]

It was a slighty too dark joke, I don't think it was entirely unreasonable but a perma ban with no chance to go "that was too far I won't do that again" seemed a little unfair

[hard ivy]

I haven't been banned, but there's the "message mods" button that should work even if you are

[bitter coral]

I'll check now, thanks!

Found it! Thanks a load (kinda embarrassing I didn't notice that before but oh well let's ignore that)

[versed mesa]

Hi all

Thats Dark matter and ficsoniam unlocked now

Does anyone have any recommendations fir storage facility depot please am unsure on design

I was probably thinking if putting storage depots under they round factories that i built in Swamp land

Am getting close to having active nukeclear gens how many will I have running at my new location i am unsure of yet I just build and see if they can handle my production amount lol

[hard ivy]

Go for 588 kekw

[versed mesa]

Say what now lol

[hard ivy]

That's the max you can get from 2100 uranium

Without slooping the nuclear stuff

[versed mesa]

Am only using 1 impure Uranium deposit at the moment

@hard ivy how many from 1 impure ?

[cunning siren]

I did a nuclear thing a while ago it seems 🤔 Building on water seems like a good plan if I ever do that again #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

84

[versed mesa]

Nice

[versed mesa]

84 Gens lol

Isn't that not abit obsessive of a number lmfao

588 is almost filling whole map lol

Ive almost got 500 hour in the game now

[hard ivy]

210 GW

[versed mesa]

Its gone quick

[versed mesa]

Wiw thats alot

Almost unlimited energy

Am playing as we speak right now

💪 👌 🔥

[frail sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg14jNbBb-8

[hard ivy]

Not horrible tbh
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=M9rZAI4gjKwoy3KG398T

[frail sleet]

isn't it 3.6 plut

[hard ivy]

1/7 th of 22.4 is 3.2

[frail sleet]

I mean

doesn't 7.2 uranium make waste for 3.6 plut rods

with max yield recipies

[hard ivy]

Maximize says 3.2 so I don't think so

Besides, for 2100 U the ratio is 50.4 U / 22.4 Pu / 112 Fs rods

[shy mulch]

You'd be surprised how quick you can use up that sort of power when you start building big production

[unkempt blade]

I don't know about that. My power grid says "over 9000" and that's the highest power level that will ever exist

[shy mulch]

That's not your power grid. That's your factory cart counter

[wooden yarrow]

Is there a Halloween event planned?

[white dawn]

If there is, they've been keeping it quiet. I doubt it; they've not done it for previous years, and if they did start a Halloween event, they'd likely have it at least for all of October

[wooden yarrow]

Ok

[shy mulch]

Make your own halloween event by collecting radioactive spiders in a box

[coral bough]

Are cast or regular screws better?

[hard ivy]

depends

[shrewd palm]

cast is the easiest and most efficient for iron i think

[hard ivy]

it's not any more iron efficient

[shrewd palm]

cast screws is iron ingots straight into screws right

[coral bough]

Yeah

[dense violet]

there's other chains of recipes you can use where the base screw recipe can be more resource efficient.
I don't think many people do it though

[hard ivy]

in fact, it's less efficient, because with default you can use cheaper rod alts, and with cast you can't

[coral bough]

12.5 screws for every 1 iron

[shrewd palm]

no reason to add another layer of machines to make rods too

[dense violet]

Steel Rod -> Screw

[hard ivy]

unless you want to make rods out of something else

[dense violet]

Steel rod to screw is.... extremely resource efficient. But I'll always use steel screw over that just for the spacing and reduced object count

[frail sleet]

i don't consider steel or aluminum cheaper than iron in any meaningful sense

[hard ivy]

we were talking about iron efficiency there

[frail sleet]

steel may be more convenient just because it gets 3x as much out of each iron ore, but yeah, iron efficiency itself is kind of a joke since it's infinite 😄

just local starvations where coal and solid steel might crank a lot of rods easily.

[hard ivy]

if we're talking about efficiency in general, making scews in the first place is extremely inefficient unless you're using them for copper rotor

[cunning siren]

In this case I would argue more about "coal efficiency" but I mean... 🤷 anybody low on coal?

[hard ivy]

anyone making a shit ton of diamonds

[cunning siren]

If you are diamond maxing yea I guess that is true

[frail sleet]

Screws are a bit more resource efficient for regular rotors than iron pipe steel rotors, and cast screw is very easy to get, so you're likely to have the cast screw alt but not iron pipe (rather than the other way around)

we had that convo yesterday though and you said it was like 40% more machines to save 3% iron so not really worth. Just not bad iron efficiency either, technically it's the best, and that's how i ended up using it (even though it's much more of a technicality than i realised at the time)

iron pipe is surprisingly strong for anything that can take it or encased industrial pipes, which is a lot of stuff.

[dense violet]

yeah use far less coal especially later on. It's almost an empty use resource for me

[cunning siren]

Unless one is planning to use the entire maps resources 100% efficiency is not that important and most players do not have that plan

[frail sleet]

Yeah agree if you have iron pipe you should probably make rotors that way

I went peak peak resource efficiency for a special build, but i also screwed it up in far more impactful ways than the difference between the two iron rotor recipies.

[cunning siren]

Tools says Copper Rotor is most efficient assuming all alts 🤔

[frail sleet]

By the weighting of tools, it is. But that weighting increasingly falls apart as you build more parts and more factories without pre-planning the entire world (or at least the biome), as it doesn't take into account how other parts and recipes are going to demand resources in a lopsided fashion and without the ability to just conveniently use iron instead of copper when you need to do it the other way around.

If you ask Tools to automate every part it will have you building Copper Rotor, copper other stuff, but if you then take all of those different Tools tab and put them in a spreadsheet you will see that it requires way more copper than is available in your biome, and way less iron than is available. It's an okay choice for that first factory, but it's not taking into account how it's infringing on everything else that you do afterwards.

[cunning siren]

Aeryn says Tools Is wrong! 😆

[frail sleet]

not wrong, but the question that it's asking is not always the right one (especially if you build a world one factory at a time, without future planning). The weights that it has will result in lopsided resource consumption because the recipies in the game are lopsided, and it won't adapt to that unless resources run out entirely (so either every factory that you're ever going to have in the world is in one Tools tab, or you have manually configured the resource limits of your tab to hit shortages with only one factory - neither of which i've ever seen anybody else actually do)

You're more likely to have a recipe consuming a lot of copper which you can't sub out than you are for other resources like iron, so the trend is strongly towards copper starvation.

Rotor is one of those recipies where you CAN pick freely, and while copper rotor may locally look a bit better when it's your only product in the world, the context of every other part and factory that you need to build nearby makes it quite objectively bad.

You're probably going to use 100% of the local or global copper when you're only using 40% of the iron. That means that it will force more suboptimal recipe choices elsewhere since that copper isn't available any more, it will force you to ship resources in from further away than if you had used iron, etc. Taken to the extreme, it will globally run out. Faced with these problems you will wonder why you spent any of a scarcer resource on rotors when they are a part that doesn't need it (or even really significantly benefit from it).

[dense violet]

Resource weights are always going to be at least somewhat arbitrary

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, more just pointing out that sftools has its own biases which might not match your own

[dense violet]

I think copper rotor was more resource efficient if you had a 1:1 value with other resources? But it’s been a while since I looked at it

[cunning siren]

OH, IDK elevator had it's own music

[frail sleet]

ElevADA

[cunning siren]

Well... in that case, well worth the 10 coupons

[versed mesa]

Ive been working on this pretty tired now and got more todo #screenshots message

Alot of the machines are in the 10s

So 10 smelters 10 assemblers 10 constructors and more coming to produce AI limiter

[coral bough]

Honestly it looks way smaller than the ones ive seen on yt

[versed mesa]

I bet lmao

[coral bough]

Im on phase 2 rn and I feel like my brains gonna explode when I get to phase 4

[frail sleet]

Just gotta get good at chunking

[versed mesa]

It sure will am on phase 5 and my brain already exploded lmao

[coral bough]

Whats that😭

[versed mesa]

What you mean by chunking ?

[coral bough]

The game has math and I suck at math😔

[frail sleet]

Chunking is the process of breaking down large amounts of information into smaller, more manageable groups or "chunks" to improve memory and processing

[versed mesa]

Lol I was good at maths at school I loved doing it and ive nit done maths fir a long while

[versed mesa]

True lol

[frail sleet]

At early stages of the game it's possible (and often default) to keep all of the numbers and machines in your head as much as possible, but with increasing complexity it becomes impractical or even impossible. By breaking a problem into smaller, independant parts you can safely ignore the irrelevant information and focus on what you need for that particular part, which may only be 25% or 5% of your actual project. Much easier to work with.

[coral bough]

My memory already struggles with a tiny factory so I'll just make pasta

[versed mesa]

Same lmao

[frail sleet]

it is more about just making 50 tiny factories one at a time, rather than trying to make a 50x size factory as one mental "thing" 😛

if you can handle a tiny factory, you don't ever have to leave that nest really

[coral bough]

When im 500 hours in my world will be like Josh's from let's game it out😂

[coral bough]

The overlords demand a factory covering the world

[versed mesa]

Not sure who that is lol am almost at 500 hours

[coral bough]

I definitely suggest watching let's game it out

[versed mesa]

@coral bough ive watched some people's videos on YouTube

[coral bough]

[mossy moon]

school told me that thats (chunking) also called decomposition i think

[coral bough]

Isn't decomposition dead things being put back into the ground

[frail sleet]

It's an immensely powerful and relatively well known skill in cognition and memory, but also something that a lot of people haven't really heard of at the same time - so i mention it a lot 😄

and it can take conscious effort to learn how to break down new types of problems, but if you do it for a bit it becomes automatic. You can very quickly break down the production of an advanced part into 15 little boxes, so that you can ignore everything in 14 of those boxes at a time and then it becomes quite trivial to manage. You can think steps ahead, interconnection, but you're not FORCED to do it simultaneously.

[mossy moon]

sure but aparently it also means breaking down problems instead of nutrient molecules or smth into simple problems instead of simpler molecules

[harsh terrace]

yo

hello

anyone active I am stuck on something that I cannot figure out

[frail sleet]

what is it

[harsh terrace]

A slooshing problem

could you help me bout it maybe?

[frail sleet]

they are very complicated but tl;dr, if you treat a mk.2 pipe as if it can only move 300-400/min when connected to manifolds it will make your life a whole lot easier.

And connect to the middle, not an end.

[harsh terrace]

I do actually

[mossy moon]

and loop it too

[harsh terrace]

Can I show you the thing

[frail sleet]

ye

[mossy moon]

conect the end of the manifold to the start

[harsh terrace]

I do that 2

[frail sleet]

#math-and-meta has pictures

[harsh terrace]

is there a vc?

[frail sleet]

#1038092680493801533 too, and no

[harsh terrace]

I cant send it through screenshots

Can I screenshare?

[frail sleet]

you can post in the first channel i linked with pics, or make a thread with pics/video in the second channel

[cosmic adder]

How do i not die from radioactivity?

There is some kind of ore, but it kills me

[shy mulch]

Radiation suit. Or stop fingering the uranium

[cosmic adder]

How do i get suit?

[dense matrix]

Why are fluids so annoying, sometimes they just move in the pipes even when there is pressure and space for it to go

I dont understand why my pipes stay frozen when consuming 200 water but the pipe is full at 600

[stone python]

you can't stop me from fingering the uranium

[shy mulch]

pipes are fine, post your setup in #1038092680493801533 and someone will help you understand what's gone wrong

[shrewd palm]

probably sloshing?

the fluids (especially in mk2 pipes) can be a little weird but as long as you know how to build them there shiuldnt be any problems

[dense matrix]

would sloshing occur if the end of the pipe is dry?

[shrewd palm]

there should be a pipe manual around here somewhere that has everything

[candid torrent]

pipes aren’t bad if u just put yourself in the shoes of a liquid

[stone python]

did you mean the fluids arent moving?

[candid torrent]

be like water and flow through them

[shrewd palm]

become the fluid

[dense matrix]

yes, sorry. Meant to put a "don't" in there

[candid torrent]

fluid do not fluid

have u checked its temperature is it perhaps a solid now

[chilly tide]

have they ever?

[stone python]

1: Make sure you have proper headlift requirements
2: might be a pipe bug, so rebuild the pipe

[dense matrix]

it sucks to try and fix it because I built too big and the factory is finished, and now im seeing the issue

[candid torrent]

i should be able to make ice cubes and feed my reactors ice cubes

[dense matrix]

headlift shouldnt be an issue afaik, the pipes fill if the factory is turned off. As for pipe bug, would I have to rebuild the whole pipe or just a segment?

[stone python]

replace the segment that isnt filling

if all your factories are eventuallyt getting watter, then it could be a couiple other things

[chilly tide]

I think the reason they made fluids the way they are is to make your fuel power plant's production look like a converter's power consumption

[dense violet]

Does sound like a qna post is needed with overhead images

[dense matrix]

I shall make one, sorry for the spam

[dense violet]

But essentially there’s a few simple concepts with fluids you need to know about and work with.

It’s not hard with a little bit of info

[dense violet]

No stress 🙂

[chilly tide]

Shall you share the secrets?

[stone python]

ya, fluids arent that bad if you follow basic steps, a lot of issued can be avoided

[dense violet]

Are you having issues too?

[chilly tide]

yea my fuel power plant production looks like a converters consumption

[dense violet]

Well making a qna post with images might be the first step

But people’s first fuel stations having serious issues is super common

Often the first big fluid system with multiple steps going on

[chilly tide]

I have a perfectly working recycled rubber/plastic setup

[dense violet]

interesting! Ok so things to know about fluids to make life easier

[chilly tide]

its the spire coast fuel setup that is the problem

[dense violet]

1. try to have them go from point A to point B, no merges or splits with other systems
2. don't split your manifolds into branches (see 1) especially don't have your manifold have changes of elevation

3. High flow pipes often need loops like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1413111048759808083/image.png?ex=68f8b438&is=68f762b8&hm=3740388d30ca8344d66d33e177f22be9cbaf61c9ec6012003d4ebc6b54b2abb1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

4. Do not feed from below

5. Lower flow pipes have a higher tolerances for less 'good' piping

these steps will generally avoid almost all fluid issues you have

now there's other little things that can happen, like sometimes if you place junctions or pumps directly on pipes it can have weird connectivity issues, which is why you rebuild the pipes to them afterwards

but essentially the main trick is to keep pipes as simple as possible to not give fluids the options to flow anywhere else

That's not to say you can't do fancy weird things with them , but you need more knowhow for that

[chilly tide]

could you teach me the knowhow?

cuz If I cant do fancy cool things whats the point?

[dense violet]

I absolutely can, but you would have to give me specific examples of what you're trying to do. It's ... not like a math equation you can just slap on to solve things

oh also, those 'rules' I listed are flexible, you can work around them if you know how to

[chilly tide]

could you hop on a call so I can screen share what I am doing?

[dense violet]

ooooof I'm on atm because of bad insomnia so I'd prefer a series of images in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 . would help me brain better

[chilly tide]

Alr I can do that

I will make a post in https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

[feral geyser]

That's such a fun setup to build, send screenshots of yours and tag me.

[chilly tide]

I got you

[cunning glade]

Hey chat

So deleting a train station on a global train network I have is just straight up crashing me

I thought it was odd I crashed

[clever stone]

Have you tried removing the surrounding track first

[cunning glade]

I don't want the track gone

I'm changing it from freight too fluid and removing the freight ones crashes my game

[clever stone]

What’s probably making it start crashing is the network becoming untraversable

So delete something less load intensive first maybe

Like a regular track

[cunning glade]

I wanna say it's only when I delete the one right after the main hub station or whatever it's called

[cunning glade]

I deleted the ones connecting it same thing happened

[clever stone]

Is there anything in the freight platform

[cunning glade]

Nope just made it

[clever stone]

Maybe just quit and reload the game cause sometimes stuff just happens

Or quit and restart your PC

[cunning glade]

Well it's crashing so it's quiting for me

Okay it's definitely only the one right after the station

Deleting the station first worked

[clever stone]

Load-bearing station wooooo

Anyways chat here’s a fun question

What is the worst node location in the game

[dense violet]

cave uranium near the centre of map

[clever stone]

I honestly think it’s the SAM node near the bottom of the map under the arch

[dense violet]

how so?

[white dawn]

The impure sulfur node in southeast grass fields talks in movie theaters and parks in handicapped spots despite not having a permit

[rugged stratus]

Is it better to automate all items in satisfactory?

[tall lantern]

maybe not literally everything, but many things

personal preference kicks in here mind

[rugged stratus]

well, everything sounds fun

[tall lantern]

eg some people don't bother fully automating space elevator parts and just feed the stuff into temporary setups

and good luck truly automating things like biofuel

but it's a game about automation so it does makes sense to automate most things

[shrewd palm]

anything and everything that is involved with building should be automated

[rugged stratus]

I meant the things that can 100% automate

[white dawn]

Personally, if I need to produce something, it's gettin' automated. Though you can run into some semantic uncertainty even with such a simple question.

[shrewd palm]

more equipment things like fuel can be debateable but i automate everything that would be useful

[white dawn]

Like stators -- your build gun never needs stators, so I never have a "dedicated" production line just for Stators. But absolutely when there's any factory that needs stators, I'll have them automated inside that factory somewhere

Sometimes when folks ask if they should "automate everything" there's an implied "to go into storage," which can change the answer somewhat

[tall lantern]

true, I wouldn't consider the motor chain as automating stators, but you do have some in there (with default recipes)

[white dawn]

Even stuff like biofuel (and other bio-derived products), you can mostly automate it; can dump bio products in a bin and have them route to otherwise-automated factory lines

[tall lantern]

"can it be used in the build gun or by equipment I'd use" is a good rule of thumb

semiautomatic liquid biofuel solved my jetpack needs so never bothered with packaged fuel for example

[white dawn]

Though honestly, on that subject, I actually have been considering sending literally everything to the Depot on my next playthrough, even if the build gun doesn't need it

[tall lantern]

and I play retaliate so don't need all the weaponry

[white dawn]

Like there's some crash sites which require stators, etc

And you could use 'em to pre-fill manifolds and such

And I always hate having to track down a caterium node to craft some caterium ingots like an animal at the "endgame" when I want some golden factory carts

[sour tiger]

i have about 400 heavy oil residue /min leftover from a plastic and rubber factory. what should i do with it

[tall lantern]

more plubber, or fuel

or coke

[dense violet]

coke to sink is good early game points

[sour tiger]

fuel or coke then maybe. dont need more plastic or rubber as im producing 1200/min of each

[tall lantern]

can always change it up later if needed

[clever stone]

Near-impossible to set up automation for it, especially in early game.

I spent about an hour dying and running and and dying again trying to set up a way to access it with ladders 😭, also the flower things made it worse

[dense violet]

ah xD

[white dawn]

I highly recommend catwalks for rando cliff-climbing like that, btw

A bit more work to set down, but far more flexible (and with practically zero risk of falling to your demise-or-severe-injuryment)

[clever stone]

I was very very early game and didn’t really have any awesome shop stuff unlocked besides the ladder

And I didn’t even consider just building down with a ramp

[white dawn]

(I personally even prefer just foundations+ramps to ladders, if it comes to that. I'm actually not fond of ladders at all, personally. Just too fiddly)

[lament niche]

*injury

[tall lantern]

injury-or-severe-injuryment just doesn't have the same ring to it

[steel kelp]

Im rly excited to start playing the console release, should i be trying to have a stack of each type of material i produce in storage

Like if smth requires iron ore to be made into x, which is made into y to create z, should i be saving x and y or should i have separate production lines for those mats

[feral geyser]

You could overproduce x and y and use overflow splitters to send the extra to storage.

[steel kelp]

Yeh that’s what i meant

[feral geyser]

Yeah, that works, if you're already making the production line, why not?

[reef basin]

I personally recommend making only as much x/y/z as you currently need, and if you need more, you make more in different place

[vivid hearth]

hi everyone. you can not load a save ?

[reef basin]

what? you very much can load a save

[opaque shadow]

there's a "load" option at the middle of the menu

[vivid hearth]

so why when i select the load it does not do anything ?

[reef basin]

wdym "doesn't do anything"?

[opaque shadow]

what are you doing, exactly

[vivid hearth]

as it really means 😄 it just clicked but stay as it was 😄

[opaque shadow]

you need to select the folder, then load the savefile within the folder

[vivid hearth]

i am doing it bro

[plucky flower]

To complete phase 3 should I now finally start making real big factories. I sort of just thrown some steal beams in for last phase and all and I dont think it will work this time. And I want to set up my rail system to transport to my new home way easier but should that mark the start of "full" automatisation?

[opaque shadow]

#1038092680493801533 maybe

maybe there is a log file

[vivid hearth]

can it have any issue with connection to my steam ?

[zenith pecan]

Oops, I'm kind of glad I had cloud saves on, I managed to nuke all my local data when I replaced my windows 10 🤣

[proper valley]

btw will satisfactory support tay tracing or simmilar?

*ray

[opaque shadow]

I don't think it requires connection

[opaque shadow]

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Logs

[white dawn]

There hasn't been a lot of interest thus far. You can enable Global Illumination / Lumen optionally in settings but it's still experimental (and I believe still just software)

But it's essentially not been touched since it was first introduced

[opaque shadow]

there are no warning messages?

[white dawn]

(When I say "hasn't been a lot of interest" I mean on the CSS side. Or at least interest that they've expressed publicly. Was more of a "well, here's a thing in case you want to try it" sort of thing. The game's lighting was not made with raytracing in mind; supporting it properly would be a lot of work)

[vivid hearth]

i leave to main menu and it says i am offline 😄

[opaque shadow]

I have definitely played offline so it is not the problem

[white dawn]

That said, a lot of folks do really like having GI enabled. And it lets you use signs as lighting, with some caveats

[zenith pecan]

D'oh! my tools plans got nuked by my OS reinstall 🤦‍♂️

[reef basin]

let's hope the tools' dev finally releases new tools in some not-so-distant future and those will have user profiles so that this will never happen again

[empty hill]

logistics mk4 is such a satisfying unlock
Those belts really zoom

[zenith pecan]

My own fault for missing data that needed backed up, and ofc microshite for eol windows 10

[twilit ridge]

is it normal my Unreal Engine keep crashing?

[tall lantern]

"is it normal to crash"
probably not 😛

depends on your world and what the actual error is

[twilit ridge]

let me crash again real quick xD

[tall lantern]

just make sure to get the entire crash log, not just the first line

[twilit ridge]

yes yes

now I can't crash it 😵

[tall lantern]

you're welcome 😎

[twilit ridge]

alright got it xD

[twilit ridge]

where do I put it?

tickets are for disord stuff

[tall lantern]

#1038092680493801533 is usually where you go for questions and help

best place to paste your logs in

[twilit ridge]

Thank you !!

[tall lantern]

there's a few smart cookies who are pretty good at recognising issues from the logs, but they aren't around all the time

gonna guess it's a broken conveyor belt that'll need deleting

[twilit ridge]

😰

[steel dome]

guys i know its stupid but if i create a building world will it delete my other game (im not taking any chances)

[tall lantern]

no, but if in doubt, 🎵 back up your saves 🎵

[steel dome]

how

[tall lantern]

copy the files somewhere else. Folder's listed in #faq somewhere

[steel dome]

i cant find it

where is it

??

[versed mesa]

👋

[steel kelp]

This makes more sense to me given the finite amount of resource deposits

Is there a “best” place for production of each type of thing, like different powernsources

[reef basin]

eh, resources are practically infinite

[reef basin]

not really, as it depends a lot on recipes used, and even then it's very much subjective

[steel kelp]

So in the mid game its fine to just use trains or drones to bring resources in?

Rather than finding a “perfect” spot

[feral geyser]

i use drones to bring the other supplies to my fuel area

[reef basin]

always is fine

[feral geyser]

drones can actually get pretty decent throughput if you build a drone on both ends of the path

[versed mesa]

Today I finally unlocked mk6

The mk6 belts are clean but I do like all belts

[cunning siren]

Mk.6 belts ❤️ be sure to pet your Mk.6 belts today

[thick surge]

Is the little bar graph with a number underneath the efficiency of a building?

[hard ivy]

It's the uptime, yeah

[hollow echo]

Satisfactory keeps crashing when I load it, and I don't know why. Can someone help me?

[hot shore]

are ziplines supposed to give me so much when sinking in the awesome?

i get 14000 per zipline

what is happening

[cunning siren]

OH

[hot shore]

help

[cunning siren]

Yea, some hand made stuff sinks for a lot

[hot shore]

i got 40 tickets 👍

after already spending a lot

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink

[hot shore]

oooo

[hard ivy]

the wiki says they're worth 5284 each

[hot shore]

what is happening then 😭

i will restart

[twin osprey]

Hover packs are also worth an absurd amount of points if you have the patience to hand craft them, though by the time you can do that you're almost certainly better off just routing some aluminum into the sink and leaving that running...

[fickle oriole]

can a train go up a long 4% slope?

[hard ivy]

A train can go up any slope you can physically build, as long as you give it enough locomotives

[ruby iron]

uuugh...
why's this game so eery wtf

[green fiber]

4% is barely anything.
Standard foundations are 12.5%, 25% and 50%
around 45% or so is the limit at which you can build rails

[hot shore]

basically you fill up your inventry with as much of the resources for them as possible and you go to bed handcrafting like a true satisfactory sweat

srry fo bad england

[ruby iron]

without spoilers, do i need to hoard these mercer spheres?

[hot shore]

spend em in the mam, all u need to know

[ruby iron]

i did the basic research and thats about what i can use them for for now (first 15h in)

[unkempt blade]

I don't think I've ever felt pressed enough for tickets to sit there handcrafting stuff for the sink. You get plenty of coupons just playing the game and using the overflow rule on your factories

[hot shore]

consume

harvest

[ruby iron]

oi, stop. its fking eery af. i thought minecraft was weird

[hot shore]

it is your primary objective to swim closer to the mercer spheres

your president needs your help mr dan

consume

[ruby iron]

this is giving me bel'veth (league charater) lore vibes. its lavander sea and shit

windows and efigies

[hot shore]

honestly ur not wrong

[hot shore]

never, must have all items now

must spend more time on tickets than factory

CONSUME

[unkempt blade]

It sounds like you haven't built enough factory yet. You should go automate more stuff

[steel kelp]

Is there a resource which outlines ratios/factory setups for a bunch of different things so i dont have to do the maths for it

[hot shore]

the mercer spheres have basically taken control over my mind, im only good for architecture now

[hot shore]

satisfactory calculator is a good tool, google it :)

[steel kelp]

Ty!!

[reef basin]

satisfactory calculator is very bad calculator 🙂

[hot shore]

awh

[reef basin]

it's good for the map though

[hot shore]

the mercer spheres told me to use it

Ḧ̵̻̠̬a̶̿̍͆͠ṙ̴̈̀̀v̶̈́̈́͂͠e̴͗̓̑͋ŝ̷̛̑̾t

[reef basin]

it can't do loops, byproducts or multiple recipes per item

all of which you use a lot in mid-late game

[hot shore]

true but for getting started i think its alright

[steel kelp]

What would you recommend then?

[hot shore]

honestly i do my own math for mid game stuff

[prime rampart]

I always do math alone

[hot shore]

i think the calculator will help you, but basically it will only take you so far

[reef basin]

f.e. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[steel kelp]

How do i know how much production of smth i will need

[ruby iron]

question: if i die and the HUB is not built, where do i spawn?

[feral geyser]

The default spawn for the world (whichever starting zone you chose)

[ruby iron]

ty ;D

[hot shore]

oh greeny you have ur own tool lmao thats cool

[tall lantern]

and it is a good one

[hot shore]

i was gonna say it shows up when you search for satisfactory calculators

[tall lantern]

Tools is what I'd recommend

[hot shore]

i will try it out

[sick falcon]

is there a way to make plastic out of heavy oil residue

[tall lantern]

you could check the recipes on the wiki

[unkempt blade]

It depends on recipes, etc. Just play the game for a bit and you'll get a feel for it!

[hot shore]

trial and error works wonders in this game :D

[steel kelp]

I’m sure

[zenith pecan]

I've made so many errors 😛

[hot shore]

thats okay im just one big error myself

[steel kelp]

Should i go for all the hard drives i can at the start, or should i wait until my factories are up and running and i need to wait for resources anyway

[tall lantern]

if in doubt, one production building of whatever the final stage is is often a good default

[unkempt blade]

I usually get some stuff automated and then if I need to wait for materials to do my next build I go do a little adventure to find stuff while stuff piles up

[steel kelp]

Is anything stopping me from going out and getting all the hard drives minute 1

Aside from it taking ages without movement stuff

[hot shore]

kinda, like gas and radiation and elevations

and monsters

[sick falcon]

requirements to open a lot of the drop pods

[tall lantern]

and the actual items wanted

[hot shore]

requirements too

[tall lantern]

though some you can find at other crash sites

[hot shore]

yeah

[steel kelp]

Ah ok cool

Thanks guys!

Does the same go for mercer spheres?

Or are those a bit easier cuz you are just picking them up

[hot shore]

Ṗ̵͓̓l̴̺̊̉̃e̶͕̿̇̚a̵̗̒s̷̛̥̱̉e̶͕̎ ̴̮͙̋̒gener̟̝̓a̵͈̦̾͒t̴̬̑̏̈́ē̵̱̊ us̶͚̳͛̕ ̶̅mọ̻̈r̶͉̈́e t̪i̸̦̦̻͝c̸̗̎̀k̵̮̦̂̿e̶͝tś̺

[tall lantern]

you also can't actually unlock everything from hard drives until you've unlocked the base recipes too, generally. So if you went hunting right at the start, you'd have them but wouldn't be able to scan most of 'em til later

[hot shore]

they can be pretty good though if you find like 10 easy ones and look up if the recipes are good or not

[tall lantern]

you'll need explosives for some of the collectibles

[heavy anvil]

not much point grabbing mercers spheres right off the bat

[hot shore]

H̴͔̄̏̔ǎ̴̟͍̳r̵̺̽͆̔v̴̭̌̾͘ȩ̷̝͋͑ś̷͍͛̾t

[heavy anvil]

you wont have the stuff to build SAM reanimators

[unkempt blade]

some of them are going to take some effort before you get a jetpack or something but you could technically minecraft your way to anywhere using foundations

[hot shore]

find a cave good chance theres sam in it

[heavy anvil]

you need steel pipes and wire

to actually unlock the depot and stuff in the MAM

[hot shore]

just find them at the crash sites its little amounts and you find usually 100 pipes

[heavy anvil]

ig you could but thats not super reliable

[hot shore]

i love running around the map for a bit it does give me really good shit

[unkempt blade]

alt recipes are also gated by your hub research level so there's not a great reason to do them all literally immediately

[hot shore]

and i sink all the computers lmao

[hot shore]

thats a good point

i mean i got copper rotors like first hard drive and those came in handy

[hard ivy]

Keep them for unlocks

[hot shore]

must unlock more awesome shop

must do it

must get all the tickets

nah im pretty slow i build everything to look real nice so i spend a lot of tickets on fancy shit

not the average playstyle id imagine

[versed mesa]

Lol

[cunning siren]

Here is a demonstration for how to pet a belt #streams-and-videos message

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[ruby iron]

YOU CAN DISMANTLE CRASH SITES

[heavy anvil]

ye

ground breaking tech

[ruby iron]

omg thats a godsent

its so much raw stuff

[versed mesa]

Yup alot

[ruby iron]

it gives so much...

[versed mesa]

It soon makes your inventory full lol

[manic topaz]

Hi satisfactory discord

[versed mesa]

Hello

[cunning siren]

It's nice to get all the extra clutter out of the situation BEFORE going in and looting as well

[ruby iron]

thank god they realized that this is game and not a job that you have to ONLY grind

[manic topaz]

the 23 screws, 11 iron rods, and 6 iron sheets will go very far
trust me

[manic topaz]

Oh you're new

[ruby iron]

--__--

this thing-----------^

[manic topaz]

isnt the average satisfactory completion time 300 hours or something

[ruby iron]

not when you start

[manic topaz]

100
close enough

[ruby iron]

im 18 hours in and only have gotten to coal power now LOL

[versed mesa]

Great job

[heavy anvil]

is that slow

[ruby iron]

idk. if you finish this game in 100 i think it is

im yet to see how deep this goes tho

[manic topaz]

for someone who has played before yes
but if it's a new player then i dont know

[ruby iron]

not to be mean but you sound VERY elitist rn

[heavy anvil]

well youve progressed further than 75.7% of the player base

[versed mesa]

Am almost 500 hours in and still not yet complete it but I am happy ive not keeps me into the game more lol

[white dawn]

Difficult to actually know numbers, since a lot of people owned the game prior to achievements being added

But yeah, folks play the game at a lot of different rates. Some folks rush through, some folks take a lot of time

[heavy anvil]

when did achievements get added

[white dawn]

I'm not convinced any "average" playthrough time has any real meaning

[white dawn]

With 1.0, last year

[cunning siren]

TIL: Hatchers + Fart pillars = dead bees

[sick falcon]

how do i make completely unmarked concrete foundations

[feral geyser]

This is why gas nobelisks are good

[feral geyser]

Gotta unlock them in the AWESOME shop.

I personally like the grip metal foundations

[sick falcon]

those have the square patterns on them tho

[cunning siren]

IDK about that, it's kind of a hassle to switch and to carry extra ammo for such an easy situation IMO

[feral geyser]

The Asphalt ones do not

[cunning siren]

After explosive rebar all grenades are kind of meh IMO

Rebar so easy to aim

Grenades not so much

[unkempt blade]

guns and nobelisks are for the weak, basher + blade runners + jetpack is the way

[cunning siren]

I am considering doing a nuke build this run

[feral geyser]

The top-of-the-world spire in the Rocky Desert is a nice place for that

[cunning siren]

Oh is "top-of-the-world spire" like the tallest point on the map or something?

[unkempt blade]

you get an achievement there too

[feral geyser]

Yes

[cunning siren]

Oh ok

Regular rifle ammo is pretty good 🤔 I'm not sure if homing ammo is a downgrade for people with good aim and an upgrade for people with poor aim 😆

I'm also not 100% sure about the accuracy of this games hit mechanics. Sometimes my aim is dead on and I get no hit sound 😭

#SadTrombone

[coral bough]

As a cod player i dont want to aim in this game so id be using homing

[cunning siren]

Most of the time I'm to lazy to make it, maybe I'll give it a shot this run

[candid torrent]

i just use nuke nobelisks if i’m being honest

don’t have to aim if the enemy is ash

[white dawn]

Yeah, sounds about right. Homing ammo + jetpack == easy mode. Hit rate isn't great when enemies strafe you, but that doesn't happen super often

[zenith pecan]

I haven't used homing ammo in a bit, I was too lazy to produce it this time.

[candid torrent]

doesn’t it need high speed connectors

hscs piss me off

[cunning siren]

Anybody "tank the radiation" to get treasure 😆 So funny

[candid torrent]

all the time

i came for hard drives and radiation poisoning don’t stop me

[dim remnant]

quick question for yall, can nuclear waste be sinked or do i have to turn it into non-fissle uranium first ?

[unkempt blade]

you seem like a perfect candidate for only using the basher

[cunning siren]

I usually am picky about using inhalers, this run I've been using them more

[unkempt blade]

I mostly just hork down berries 😆

[cunning siren]

Nuts seem to be the play on that idea

[unkempt blade]

yeah similar idea

[turbid merlin]

Plutonium rods

[regal lantern]

Turn it into plutonium rods and sink them

[unkempt blade]

I wind up with hundreds of both just mashing the action button while I run around so they're basically free

[regal lantern]

Or put all your nuclear waste on factory carts and send them on a massive loop round the edge of the map

[unkempt blade]

and most fights aren't super challenging where I need the inhaler top off speed

[regal lantern]

And hope they never make it back to you...

[dim remnant]

holy crap, i have to do a lot of prepping

[tall lantern]

always got the option of just making enough storage that it won't be a problem in realistic timescales

[regal lantern]

Just wait until you consider burning ficsonium, crazy amounts of prepping

[cunning siren]

Can sink nuclear waste in toilet 🤷

[unkempt blade]

We did that with trains in an EA save. Was a spicy surprise for people not wearing the hazmat suit

[regal lantern]

But the tickets!

[regal lantern]

I have two trains, they go round the edge with an undetermined and random amount of plutonium waste on them

[tall lantern]

you could probably spend that time on something worth more sink points

[regal lantern]

If someone ends up taking a cannon to the edge on my save, they might die before they land

[cunning siren]

BWD are not that hard with all the planning tools, I golden nutted twice last run with those

[regal lantern]

It's a tidy way to get rid of waste without committing to building a lots of ficsonium production.

And I say this having done a large amount of ficsonium

[unkempt blade]

yeah like making the maximum amount of screws and sinking those!

[regal lantern]

Can you automate making carts?

I've not touched satisfactory in two weeks so I've forgotten everything at this point and can't remember

[unkempt blade]

nope only in the equipment shop unfortunately

[coral bough]

Nah i use weaponized trains

[coral bough]

Shouldn't the amount be the same most times if they travel around the map?

[winged adder]

guys, does this game support crossplatform ?
can my epic friend play with me ? im on steam

[regal lantern]

No, there's some belts and splitters on the two stations

We could predict the numbers but because the station halts in/out when the train is there, it gets chaotic

[coral bough]

Ahhh

[winged adder]

i read some articles that said you coudlnt so i was confused and decided to ask to players directly

[tall lantern]

Correct, no crossplay between PC and console

see the video in #announcements

[winged adder]

nah not that i mean crossplay

mb

between epic games and steam

[tall lantern]

that's already a thing, yes, though might take jumping through a few hoops

[winged adder]

does it affect the game ?

[tall lantern]

no different to steam+steam or epic+epic multiplayer

[winged adder]

ohhh alr then thats a relief thank you

[turbid merlin]

Isn’t that just not worth the effort?

[tall lantern]

only difference is in getting the connection between the two

[winged adder]

the game has steam interface support right

you can directly invite your friends through steam

[turbid merlin]

I swear I keep seeing plutonium not ficsonium is worth using for power

[regal lantern]

Depends. I found it fun and worth the payout knowing I made something super complex and unnecessary

[tall lantern]

IIRC the problem with Ficsonium is instead you just Convert more uranium

[regal lantern]

For others though, not worth

[tall lantern]

if you want to do it for the sake of doing it, don't let that stop you

[unkempt blade]

you gotta do ficsonium for the love of the game

[regal lantern]

The enjoyment for me was seeing the project through, even though it's not that good for power numbers. Half the usage of my nuclear setup is just for ficsonium or something

Probably more than half, I can't remember the numbers

Still outputs more than it takes to run, so it's not all bad

Just dents the returns

[hard ivy]

Yeah, if 630 GW is not enough for you, it's cheaper and easier to just make more uranium and keep sinking/burning plutonium than making any ficsonium

[regal lantern]

630GW? Where were going, we need 630TW...

[hard ivy]

That's not possible in vanilla

[tall lantern]

ionised fuel's the real weak one, the gain in power genuinely does barely counter the power cost to make it unless you really contort your production

[regal lantern]

It seems cursed to get to ionised fuel and use fuel generation with it

[tall lantern]

(or arguably rocket fuel's too strong)

[mystic oriole]

you can get blueprints that include miners to help with production

[hard ivy]

You need like at least a +30% power boost to make it a net wash vs rocket fuel (assuming the power hungry machines are all at 100% speed)

And that's the default recipe. The alt is always a loss, even if you could make it without using any power

[unkempt blade]

the real goat is 4000 biomass burners and slooping the biofuel chain

[mystic oriole]

and skip coal power

[unkempt blade]

yeah coal power is for nerds

[mystic oriole]

If I was bold, I'd try to skip oil as well and go straight to nuclear. With help from the boost.

[unkempt blade]

You should give it a try. You're amazing and talented and I believe in you achieving your power meme dreams

[mystic oriole]

lol, thanks. I'm not that talented TBH.

[tall lantern]

not surprising if you've only been alive for 1227 hours

[mystic oriole]

so true, I'm 41 yo and only been alive for 1227 hours.

1228 hours if you want to count the one time I was doing work at a saw mill plant and saw all the automation they had in their main facility.

[regal lantern]

I've skipped oil power before and just scaled coal until nukes

I tend to just not bother with oil either unless I want to get rid of residue, I did coke with it last time

[candid torrent]

i love bioslop

[restive agate]

how did i just comprehend you can use animal dna to get tickets

[cunning siren]

Meat cylinders to "The Man" so we can pimp out our factories 😆

[coral bough]

When i get the ability to process oil should I do oil generators or stick with coal generators?

[restive agate]

any further energy you need you should use oil

tbh its alot easier to manage them

and they are scalable with better fuels

[shrewd hatch]

why do creatures spawn on the train tracks

[coral bough]

To be hit with trains

[shrewd hatch]

why dont they die tho

[coral bough]

Idk

[shrewd hatch]

a fully loaded freight train rams them and they just shrug it off

[coral bough]

Build the trains above the groud then they wont spawn on them

[shrewd hatch]

I have literally never built tracks on the ground

[coral bough]

Must not do enough damage

[shrewd hatch]

my train tracks are always built over pillars

[coral bough]

Huh

[obsidian violet]

i played satisfactory a year ago and got to phase 4 and uranium energy

whats after uranium and how do the mods play out?

[cunning glade]

How overkill is 5 nuclear pasta a min

Cuz saw the phase 9 requirements it needs quite a bit

And plus I like extra coupons

[shrewd hatch]

theres a phase 9?

[tall lantern]

has been for over a year, yes

[candid torrent]

tier 9 phase 4

[tall lantern]

phase 5*

[cunning glade]

This is what I meant

My bad

[candid torrent]

i figured but ya there is

it’s got a bunch of new machines

[cunning glade]

I don't wanna see what nuclear pasta takes yet

But I'm wondering if 5 a min is unreasonable

[candid torrent]

it takes something

[tall lantern]

just a lil box and some copper

[candid torrent]

uhh no probably not

[cunning glade]

Ight I'll prolly aim for that

[candid torrent]

it’s just gonna use a looot of power so plan accordingly

[cunning glade]

And can prolly sloop it too for extra points

[cunning glade]

Me has 380gw rn

[candid torrent]

perfect

[cunning glade]

And I really wanna do nuclear

So me needs too use this power

So I'm just gonna start ocing alot and same with sloops

If the sloop is worth it

I wanna do like perfect nuclear or whatever

Idk I just know there's some loop u can do I think idk for me too figure out later

[shy mulch]

Biggest mistake I made was trying to do things perfect on 1st try

Just do it by eye, guess a bit, read the wiki etc., kinda figure it out as you go. It'll be terrible, but you'll learn lots. Then do it again. Then do it again. Each time you do it, it'll be better than last time

[cunning glade]

Well that's just for nuclear for pasta I just wanna make a decent amount so I dont have too make more

Idk I'm only doing 1 run for now

I may do more but modded

Unfortunately game takes a lot of time and I have a lot of other games I wanna play

[hearty estuary]

Is there a voice chat available on this discord?

[shy mulch]

No

[keen sun]

where can i get help for crashes

[cunning glade]

Well here tbh or #1038092680493801533

[keen sun]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffcfda7ac7e4

[acoustic sierra]

are these signs that auto generate on the track messing up my signals?

[hearty estuary]

Why is there not a voice channel? That’s pretty much the only thing that I use discord for? It took me a year to even figure out it had a text chat at all because I started with discord on my PS5, if they want to get ready for console launch they should include discord for the PS5 😢

[acoustic sierra]

oh cant post pictuers here

[rose saffron]

I'm watching a video of someone play the Satisfactory plus mod

and so far, it seems like it's just the Angels and Bob's mods from Factorio

[dense violet]

Can’t be moderated.
If you find someone you want to talk to use your own channel and group

[feral geyser]

probably previous abuse, plus it's easier to moderate

[rose saffron]

if the space elevator only has six inputs, how are you supposed to deal with the final stage having nine parts?

just input them manually?

[high lintel]

anyone down to hop on mt world and help me with organisation, im not far into the game i am around mk 2 terratory

[shrewd palm]

there is at most 4?

or is this modded

[rose saffron]

I'm looking at the wiki

[shrewd palm]

theres only 1 for phase 1, 3 for phase 2 and 3, 4 for phase 4 and 5

btw if its the fandom there is almost certinaly going to be trolling

[last orbit]

Feels like I'm gonna need alot of help to relearn this game, it's been awhile since I played and I forgot how things work and doesnt help my factory is so massive.

[dense violet]

it's 4 https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Space_Elevator#Project_Assembly_phases

also it's not a continuous production need, I've never seen anyone directly feed space parts into the elevator

[twin holly]

Where can I make a suggestion for the discord? It is not game related.

[white dawn]

#open-a-ticket could be appropriate depending on what you'd like to ask

[eager siren]

Do you have to unlock advanced aluminum production to get the sloppy alumina recipe?

[dense violet]

nope, as soon as you unlock it

[eager siren]

I've been through about a dozen or so HD's and haven't hit it yet

bad luck i guess

[white dawn]

Yeah, helps to "keep up" with your drive scanning as you progress, though that advice doesn't help if you haven't already been doing that. :)

Each recipe's as likely as any other, so the larger the recipe pool, the longer it can take

[stoic spear]

does a push pull train need 2 eletrico locomovitves

[eager siren]

yeah I've been holding whatever I scan to keep the junk out

[white dawn]

If you mean a train which can go "backwards" and "forwards", then yeah, you need two engines: each facing "outwards"

[stoic spear]

ok thank you

[merry ridge]

the pure amount of copper for pasta is crazy

i just finished my 160 smelter factory for the 4800 copper needed to make 4 pasta a min

[feral geyser]

You didn't wanna do 128 refineries for pure?

[merry ridge]

easier to use normal nodes

[peak wasp]

How many belts is that

[feral geyser]

Plus...

Oh, only 13 water extractors?

That's not as bad as I thought

I guess 160 smelters is significantly less power than all that that i said

[merry ridge]

i have 8 mk3 miners with a belt each going to 20 smelters. using a center manifold design that splits the output into two belts, i have a constructor on the end of each output (16) that turns the ingot into powder

[peak wasp]

Does it work evenly

[merry ridge]

  {Train}
     |
 |---|---|
{c}     {c}
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
 |{s}+{s}|
     |
{Input 600 ore/s}

all this 8 times

[merry ridge]

yeah, takes a while to spin up but once it goes, its all even since its a constant 600 ore/s

[peak wasp]

Thats what I do with my designs now, and then I have the out puts fit onto as many that my max belt will allow until I need a new belt

[merry ridge]

simple design that takes no time at all to install and expand

plus it can be vertical

so if you run out of room just put some vertical conveyers and rotate 180

[spark sky]

I made a box with double-thick walls, ceiling and floors, and an automated door at one end. I went in it, expecting it to be dark, but was met with a floor and one wall that were bright. I built this to test some lighting concepts, especially with signs (with full emissive stats to simulate lights). I'm not sure, yet whether the signs will light up the room or just be bright for the player's eyes, only.

[civic reef]

do power lines autoconnect in bps?

[shrewd palm]

i dont think so

only belts, pipes, and rails afaik

i guess rails might as well be powerlines so yes?

[spark sky]

@hazy hawk How did you do that roof (lower left image)? Is that done with a mod? #screenshots message

[hazy hawk]

I have Structural Solutions installed, along with X3 Roads and DI MoreLights. Also More Walls by Elkester

[spark sky]

Ah, currently trying to do everything I can in vanilla.

At the rate I'm going, I should be ready for mods in about 5 years.

[turbid merlin]

I know the feeling. Would love to install some of these qol mods. But should at least finish the game once in vanilla

[spark sky]

Well, I started playing this game just before Ficsmas last year. I'm currently at Phase 2. I got distracted by my creative mode game where I've been building blueprints for biomass and coal power plants. I've got geothermal, thanks to the doggos giving me the materials needed to do the research, but biofuel still fascinates me. I like the fact that it doesn't get used until it's needed. I like having a buffer for when something I build oversteps my power generation. Besides, I'd rather put the biomass stuff I collect into biofuel than into the Awesome Sink (I've already bought everything but the statues in the Awesome Shop). I've collected 24 lizard doggos, and, though I haven't been gathering from them for a while, I know that if I need to, I have them. During Ficsmas last year, I spent the whole season gathering gifts that fell from the sky and making stuff from them. I did automate a bunch of the stuff for that, mostly so I caould keep making stuff while I wandered around looking for resources and doggos. I made most everything for Phase 1 by hand (watching videos while the stuff got banged out). I'm having great fun, sometimes just looking around.

[feral geyser]

Some of them feel perfectly fair game for vanilla. Like 2d zoop and infinite zoop, those are fair and could (should) even be part of the base game.

[spark sky]

2d zoop, does that allow you to do rectangles?

[feral geyser]

Yezzir

And infinite zoop starts with the basic 10, but you can upgrade the range in the MAM, using parts that are pretty fair for each game stage.

[spark sky]

I've seen that done in some videos.

[feral geyser]

So it feels balanced

[spark sky]

Again, I may get the stuff for the research from the doggos (before the next stage).

[feral geyser]

I mean, even without extending the range, being able to zoop a single 10×10 is a huge improvement over doing ten 1×10s

[spark sky]

I wish you could zoop blueprints of foundations.

[feral geyser]

Blueprint zoop is also a mod, but it was acting kinda buggy last time I used it.

[spark sky]

Ah.

[feral geyser]

Tbh, if all you're doing is foundations, just get Infinite Zoop

Cartograph, and Location&Rotation are also good ones.

Cartograph shows all your builds on the map, and L&R gives you <x,y,z,θ> for the things you are building.

[spark sky]

Well, wanting to do zoops of whole factory sections (or my 4-high coal power plants) would be nice, but it would use up my resources so fast it would have little use.

[feral geyser]

Both pretty basic QoL without violating the Vanilla "feel"

[feral geyser]

Need more depots lol

[spark sky]

Well, I was told that more depots does not increase what can be stored in the "cloud".

[feral geyser]

10 max speed depots on concrete fills your whole (max) dimensional storage in just over a minute

[feral geyser]

No, but it does speed up the refresh time

And you can upgrade stack size count in the MAM

[spark sky]

True, I guess. I have to look into the stack size upgrade.

[feral geyser]

It's technically stack count not size, but same diff, you knew what I meant

[spark sky]

No, I think it says stack size (how many per stack), but as far as I could tell, it only doubles the stack size, and only once.

Still, that's significant.

(Assuming the limiting factor in what can be stored of any given material is the number of stacks, doubling the size of the stacks still doubles what can be stored.)

Though, I suppose that doubling the number of stacks is more compatible with taking a stack out of the cloud.

[feral geyser]

It calls it "Depot Expansion," and yeah, ultimately, you can get 5 stacks of material in the depot at max.

[spark sky]

::wonders if there will be another duplication bug to exploit, sometime in the future::

[feral geyser]

My game keeps duping object scanners and leaves 😭

[spark sky]

While the factory carts were duplicating stacks, I took the oportunity to make a few containers full of some items that seemed rather rare and rather critical.

[feral geyser]

At one point, I had some in my upload queue but the depot was full. Now, even if i cleared the queue and saved, whenever I load the game again, they are back in there attempting to upload.

[spark sky]

I don't consider it cheating, per se, as it was left in the game for quite a while.

[feral geyser]

Duping glitches are cheating 😒

This ain't Banach-Tarski simulator

[spark sky]

Well, I'm only cheating myself, it's not like I'm competing with someone else.

[feral geyser]

Yeah, that's fair too.

What does "cheating" even mean in this game?

Hard to say, hence our argument the other day 😭

[spark sky]

Using Creative mode to do these stacked coal power plant blueprints that are 6x2, before I unlock the Mk 3 blueprint designer could be called cheating, too, by some, but again, I'm only competing with myself.

I do try to limit what I'm building in Creative to stuff using the technology I've already unlocked. I'm not doing nuclear power plant or even oil production blueprints.

And geothermal doesn't make sense as a blueprint, unless you want to do a blueprint of a building to put around one.

[shrewd hatch]

why does my game freeze when opening the build menu

it fixes itself after rejoining

[bronze atlas]

vanilla game or modded?

[fierce quartz]

deciding to start another play-through. with it I will have finished a run on every starting location.

[bronze atlas]

do you usually end up building your later game factories in the same places as you uncover the whole map or do you mostly stay in your starting biome?

[fierce quartz]

I spread out all over the map. I tend to build where the resources are rather then just one big factory

There usually comes a point mid game where I pull everything up and move it all to better areas

[bronze atlas]

so kinda the same areas then past mid game?

[fierce quartz]

yeah, I tend to have similar areas for modular frames, aluminium and a few others. since the map is the same every time you learn where good places to build are.

[bronze atlas]

makes sense.

im still on my first playthrough

currently struggling with the joys of liquids involved in rocket fuel production.

[fierce quartz]

yeah liquids can be a headache. using planning websites definitely help, as well as having large buffer tanks you can occasionally flush for liquids you have too much of.

[bronze atlas]

i didnt build any buffer tanks, maybe thats where the problem lies. I keep getting to the point where the numbers in my planner are not quite being reached, though i'm using the supply amounts and machine clocking recommended. So the last 5-10% of my fuel generators keep cycling on and off as they struggle for fuel

[feral geyser]

Prefill your pipes and avoid working at the max speed.

I.e. standby some of the ones at the front of the manifold until the ones at the end fill.

[bronze atlas]

ill give that a shot thanks for the advice.

I read that gasses like rocket fuel are not subject to the sloshing/gravity effects, is that true? just curious if that might be causing any of my issues since my fuel gens are in a vertical tower

[dense violet]

@fierce quartz fluid buffers will, at best, do nothing, at worst, wreck flow
especially with gasses

[dense violet]

just gravity, still slosh

they just slosh slightly differently

[bronze atlas]

so i should still build pipe loops with gasses?

[dense violet]

quite often yes. Depends on your set ups and how high a flow you're putting through pipes

if you create smaller sections, requiring like 300 flow instead of 600, most flow issues will go away though w/o much effort

[bronze atlas]

they should be about 364ish/m over 4 pipes

[dense violet]

as in each of the pipes has 360 ish? might be able to avoid the loop - though it'll also depend on the layout you're doing

but it could also be a previous fluid step causing the issue. I don't really have much info to work with so that's about as much as I can say.

[bronze atlas]

yeah assuming that everything is running im producing just under 1454 that i split into 4 pipes to flow into my fuel generator tower

[dense violet]

so at that point it'll depend on the layout of your manifold

for example if you have a bunch of small branches breaking off the pipe it might cause flow issues

360 will often not need a loop

[bronze atlas]

well the rocket fuel goes into a long pipe, and then splits off into 1 pipe that splits to 2 pipes that lead into 2 generators, and the main pipe continues to the next floor where it does the same thing, and that repeats all the way up the tower.

[dense violet]

Would really need to see it. Small details can make big differences.

you're having flow issues now I take it?

[fierce quartz]

I meaning with system like aluminum refinery where if your water I/O balance changes you factory brakes. I rater dump the excess into a tank that I can just flush out. Unfortunately we can just have an open pipe dump waste

[rotund pier]

What do i do starting phase 3? I really wanna start decorating my base first

[bronze atlas]

i think its more likely that the liquid fuel sections arent performing at 100%, because the generators are running out of fuel with less than the calculated number needed.

[dense violet]

2 solutions to that

1. continuous production , ie , sink the scrap/ingots so it never stops
   or
2. split your fresh and waste water so they never merge in the first place and you won't have an issue

[dense violet]

then troubleshooting 101 - follow the fuel back to the producers - are their outputs clogged or are they starving?

if clogged ? you have a flow issue to the gens
if starving? you have a flow issue to them.

from there you can narrow it down further

[bronze atlas]

let me take another look instead of going off memory...

[dense violet]

no stress 🙂 I'm puttering around the house anyway

[bronze atlas]

i think it may be flow issues in the rocket fuel blenders, i have 16 going, and 14 of them have 35-50 turbofuel in their buffers, but 2 of them are hovering between 2-6 turbofuel and are only running sporadically.

i had a turbofuel refinery compacted coal line that was backed up, and i put a sink on it thinking that perhaps my rocket fuel blenders were backing up from the compacted coal, but now the compacted coal line is starving the last couple turbofuel refineries and i guess thats slowing down the turbofuel supply a little.

[dense violet]

ok so you have a flow to the fuel blenders going awry.
is the compacted coal byproduct from the later step?

[bronze atlas]

yes its coming out of the rocket fuel blenders

i think i had some bugged pipes, i just replaced the turbofuel pipes into the two stalled blenders and now it seems to be working again

its still slow, but at least the numbers are changing now

[dense violet]

are you merging the 'fresh' compacted coal with the waste?

[bronze atlas]

i have no fresh, all my compacted is made by the factory

[dense violet]

I mean non waste compacted coal, not byproduct

[bronze atlas]

all the compacted coal that my factory uses is byproduct. there is no input compacted coal

[dense violet]

huh ok. Do you have a sftools plan for it?

[bronze atlas]

no im using satisfactory modeller

but i guess i can do a screenshot of that if you want

[dense violet]

ehhh... those are terrible to relay info but maybe better than nothing, yeah shoot in #math-and-meta ? better place to trouble shoot

[shrewd hatch]

why is my truck not loading

I thought it would automatically load

since its AI

[dense violet]

are you driving it?

[shrewd hatch]

Okay I fixed it

it just had to go around again and it magically worked

[spare lance]

i just returned back to playing satisfactory on my old world and i go up on google to find the interactive map to make some changes to my save and i cant find the scim , which other save editors can i use??

[dense violet]

satisfactory calculator still exists

[feral geyser]

Satisfactory Calculator is down right now, I've heard

[flint grail]

Was just curious about that, lol

[spare lance]

awh man

[feral geyser]

I don't actually know for myself cuz I don't use it, just what I've heard.

Pencil and paper is king, needs no connection 😏

Or sharpie and strings on the wall, like a madman

[bronze atlas]

i say plan your factory with lego.

[feral geyser]

That's what we need, Satisfactory x Lego crossover.

[bronze atlas]

yeah while it would be awesome, i fear for my bank account

[narrow canyon]

Isnt that just Minecraft?

[feral geyser]

Immersive Engineering lol

[narrow canyon]

There's another one... terra something on steam.. build like Legos.. strip mine a planet.. forget the full name. Can even create flying stuff

[mossy moon]

minecraft create mod is basically satisfactory but its a block game

[grim ermine]

#screenshots message
This is actually crazy. This is the best thing ive ever seen made in satisfactory

[dim dock]

anyone having issue with lift mergers/splitter not aligning vertically?

this to be precise:

#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Turbo motors have been made

Doing 20 a min 🕺

I love points IDC if it takes times

The coupons are worth it

[coral bough]

Try holding ctrl or deleting the merger/splitter and replacing it

[hard ivy]

I've heard of them having alignment issues, but not this big. So I'd say you should be able to fix this by temporarily moving the entire lift up/down

[subtle pulsar]

Meow

[dim dock]

tried...

it only worked after using a 4m foundation instead of 8m

[coral bough]

Rip

[dim dock]

had to 'hide' the jank inside an 8m foundation later

[coral bough]

Im confused trying to make modular frames with 3 normal iron nodes

😭😭 this game making me do math

[hard ivy]

You went into this game not expecting to do math?

[coral bough]

No i definitely expected math, but it gets complicated when I try and build a factory with no noodles and over clocking

[cunning glade]

Okay turns out turbo motors are worth a lot of points

[versed mesa]

👋

[cunning glade]

I somehow keep making my aluminum factory worse

I hate it so much holy shit

I don't feel like fixing it but just looking at it not running correctly makes me wanna die

I should have 10 belts of scrap but 3 of them keep having gaps

And the blenders are full of scrap

[limber plaza]

blenders?

[cunning glade]

Yes

The annoying parts is they make 300 so I can only do 2 per technically

I had a solution someone told me I thought I did it correctly idk

At this points its something I'll fix if I somehow run out of aluminum

I hate this game man holy

[limber plaza]

ahh u used the instant scrap

[cunning glade]

I need too go play deadlock

Me when I make 160 screws for reinforced plates that need 160 screws but it isn't enough

[limber plaza]

ify early game atleast

[cunning glade]

Wym

[rugged stratus]

im aiming on automating every single item that can be automated, im about to finish the game, how much power do I need?

[reef basin]

at least 5 MW

[cunning glade]

On the Brightside I'm making 6m points a min

Idk how good that is but big step up from 2m

[limber plaza]

bouta finish mine making 17m points a minute gonna leave pc on overnight should have close to enough for the nugget

[hard ivy]

An encoder at 1% pulls 2.3 MW average so if you want to automate every item at once, you'll need at least 13.6 MW just for the encoders

Probably even more because some items made in the encoder need items also made in the encoder

[rugged stratus]

ur right tho at 1% is only an encoder not quantum encoder

[reef basin]

nothing says it runs at 100% capacity

[hard ivy]

Then it's not all items automated at the same time

[reef basin]

why not? if you automate item and need 0.000001 of an encoder to produce as much as you wanted to automate

[hard ivy]

If the only machine making it is currently not running, then it's currently not being made, now is it?

[reef basin]

you're the one literally saying "keep machines at 100% and let them idle" to other people

that's the same case - when it's idle, the item is not automated (by your definition)

[rotund pier]

is it better to use the truck or the tractor?

[hard ivy]

Which is perfectly fine if my goal is to have an item available. Nothing else matters if I'm getting the items I want.

But if you're aiming to have every item automated at once, you gotta ask yourself whether having a machine that's not running counts as "automated".

And I'd say that if there isn't a single machine currently producing that item, then it doesn't count. But you could also say that as long as you have some average output per minute, it counts

[limber plaza]

depends on output but id still say truck

[hard ivy]

I'd say belt. Or train

[reef basin]

the "at once" was never mentioned by OP

[hard ivy]

But it was mentioned by me 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

and yet I was answering to OP not to you

and if my goal is to automate something at 0.0000001/min, by your definition my goal would be impossible (although it's very much possible - automatic production that averages at the amount requested)

[eternal swallow]

i set up my first train line! :D

[sullen plume]

Hi everyone, long time lurker, but got a question: was looking forward to finally build factories with my brothers who only own ps5's. Just saw the video mentioning there wont be any crossplay any time soon between PC and consoles.. died a little inside. Is there any way we could talk to the devs about this? put some pressure on the sore wounds etc... sorry if this is the wrong channel

[reef basin]

no crossplay so that we can finally push console peasants to PC master race

[mortal ginkgo]

no crossplay gonna happen I am afraid

[spice patio]

For any petitions, QA site:

[sullen plume]

im afraid so too, thats why I would like to know more as to why though. crossplay is such an important feature nowadays. I thought we surpassed the time everything was vendor locked.

[raven axle]

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[spice patio]

No natural infrastructure from anyone, CSS would have to do the matchmaking servers etc. themselves if I understood correctly.

PC currently uses Epic Online Services for crossplay between Steam and Epic.

But seems that same EOS should also work with Xbox and PS...

[mortal ginkgo]

Reasons why:

1- PC can mod their games, others can't (unless ultra tryhard)
2- Some code changes can be needed for Console releases (especially for multithreading) so it looks like you are playing the same game but not at the same time
3- Hackers can do any sort of things by sending data from PC to Consoles even when it is ultra rare thing to do but can brick a console regardless.
4- Vendor Lock is hardly gone, I mean we didn't even start towards that direction my friend.
5- Probably my mom prevents it all, she is like that sometimes

[spice patio]

Ah, mod support etc. were also a point in the video.
And some changes made to console version to keep in HW limits or like.

[mortal ginkgo]

The "Let me play with my friends all the time!" social crowd is low in number and "Let me play crossplay with my friends!" is even lower than that.

In the end "is the cost of production worth it?" also the question and I am afraid mostly the answer is no.

[sullen plume]

Hahah your mum says this time it wasn't here doing. but yeah thanks for the clarification, althoug rocket league uses EOS as well, but can't be modded. There could be a vanilla option for crossplay. like minecraft bedrock vs java and what not. It could be possible

in the end money talks, i agree, and searching online I look like im in the niche market

[mortal ginkgo]

There is always this crowd that "wants to mod things that shouldnt be modded and some of them are actually evil" too. As a dev you really need to weight on it all and some people are left out.

I wanted to play Elden Ring with my console bros too but alas.

[eternal swallow]

i need heeeellpp

my train line should be working but it doesnt

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533 , share images

[zenith pecan]

Train station could be backwards, the line might not have connected properly, is it powered, are the signals if any setup weird.

[sullen plume]

check directions of your station, also it should to a loop, or for mono rail, make a small loop back to this track. train goes only in one direction. Also, try out in a sandbox save without any costs to build. this way i learned the mechanics of building train tracks

[eternal swallow]

its a loop. i can manualy drive it, it just doesnt want to route the second halve

[sullen plume]

have you checked the train station routes?

you should set the routes to follow at the station

[eternal swallow]

#screenshots message this should just work right

and

its a loop, i can drive it