satisfactory

[lucid flicker]

💀

im playing satisfactory rn 😄

idk why, but this is like my 10th time restarting

but fresh starts are nice, eh

[mortal ginkgo]

yes but.. its better to address the issue if you are keep restarting

[lucid flicker]

true

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, I am not the "if you having fun you are good" folk. I am more like "if you press on the hardships and get better, you can have better fun times" folk.

This community is really helpful so hit us dear cat.

[lucid flicker]

yeah your right, but the reason why was bc those were modded gameplays

[mortal ginkgo]

then we guchi

[lucid flicker]

and thanks :3

[mortal ginkgo]

yolo I say, like a cat

[lucid flicker]

lol

are you a mod?

[mortal ginkgo]

hell no

I am just an unreal leon

[lucid flicker]

lol

new profile lol

chill server lol

[neat owl]

<@&387163995947270144> There is a glitch where if you keep sliding and then jumping within 0.5 seconds of landing, you can increase your momentum tremendously.

[leaden turret]

that is not something you ping a mod for

!qasite

[neat owl]

Sorry, it's a bug.

[mortal ginkgo]

this is well known and yes, mods are for handling the Discord.

[real shale]

oh no.....

[mortal ginkgo]

reporting bugs are for the QA site.

[neat owl]

Ok.

Got it

[mortal ginkgo]

also, its not a bug, devs left it intentionally as it is a "Unreal Engine Shenanigan".

[lucid flicker]

i think that's called b hopping

[neat owl]

OK, thank goodness because I've been usign it to get around A TON of things.

[mortal ginkgo]

You shouldn't really report it then........

[lucid flicker]

eh, he was being honest

[mortal ginkgo]

Abuse the system in a honest way kek

[lucid flicker]

no, like he admitted to it

even if it wasn't a bug

[mortal ginkgo]

what I said is what he should

[real shale]

you dont get paid for your honesty, you get paid for your efficiency

[mortal ginkgo]

^

[lucid flicker]

Ficsit

[mortal ginkgo]

Factsit

[lucid flicker]

fix + it = ficist

ficsit*

[real shale]

crystal oscillators produce so slowlyyyyy

[lucid flicker]

atleast your not doing bioburners rn

ugh im so ineffecient 😭

i restarted way too many times

[real shale]

i got a factory producing like 13 crystal oscillators a minute

[lucid flicker]

ngl, i find this game as an inspiration for engineering to me

[real shale]

i dont think thats nearly enough

[lucid flicker]

overclocking?

[real shale]

yeah im overclocking

well, all but one of them

[lucid flicker]

could i ask what tier your on right now

[real shale]

8

[lucid flicker]

woah

are you using power plants yet?

[real shale]

nuclear power plants?

if so then no, i havent got them unlocked yet

although i will need a power upgrade at some point as im hitting my 30 GW capacity

[violet delta]

they should add deeprock galactic soundtrack to satifactory boombox tapes

[real shale]

I have news for you....

[violet delta]

??????

[real shale]

They have

[violet delta]

what

[atomic notch]

U gotta find it

[violet delta]

where

[viscid rune]

gotta go caving

[violet delta]

where

[cunning glade]

With mods u can add any songs too the boom box

Aslong as it has a MP4 file

[violet delta]

give me tape location

[cunning glade]

If we do can we spoiler it if it's real

[atomic notch]

I honeslty dont know where it is. Ik where the other hidden one is

[real shale]

It's in a very obvious spot

[violet delta]

stop beating around the bush and tell me

[atomic notch]

Theres a lot of obvious spots to check

[viscid rune]

I came across mine by accident, no clue where, but it's in a big cave space on the top of a rubble pile iirc.

[outer hatch]

Pro tip : asking nicely usually gives better results.

[real shale]

I will give a hint if you are a grassy field spawn, you should look around where your first automated power plant probably is

[violet delta]

im in the desert

ill just look it up

[real shale]

Oh you have some distance to trek then lmao

I still need to find the other tape, I felt stupid when I found the DRG one

"where is that tape?" As I have a massive coal power plant sitting right outside near it

[lucid flicker]

ight just got my bioburners running again

got 4000 leaves

[real shale]

Okay, so finally my crystal computer/crystal oscillator factory is finished, now I just gotta get some aluminium casings

[lucid flicker]

W is it faster now? What's the rate

[real shale]

Split between 13 computers a minute and 6.5 crystal oscillators a minute which should land me 13 radio control units a minute in theory

[lucid flicker]

Are you making supercomputers?

[real shale]

those are next, just trynna automate control units

[lucid flicker]

nicee

[earnest oak]

How do people react to afk overnight with game running in background to get resources for or against?

[true mulch]

Skill issue

[sick dragon]

Idk why you would ever do that tbh

[true mulch]

The game never makes you wait

[true mulch]

If you have too little of something, play the game and make a bigger factory for that thing 😭

[earnest oak]

Space factory stuff etc

[sick dragon]

A container usually fills in an hour

[sick dragon]

Space factory?

[leaden turret]

"sanity"

[earnest oak]

I haven't done that just wondering what people think of it

[earnest oak]

Space station

Whatever it's called the project parts

[sick dragon]

Space elevator?

[atomic notch]

I personally dont care what you do. I dont even know who you are

[real shale]

okay thanos

[sick dragon]

I mean even producing a small amount you usually finish a stage in 2 hours or so

[lucid flicker]

space escalator

[sick dragon]

Go build something else

[lucid flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-falling-down-escalator-escalator-funny-meme-fail-gif-27104288

[sick dragon]

But if you wanna waste power who am I to judge

[earnest oak]

Ya lmao

[leaden dome]

you say clearly judging

[velvet nimbus]

So, I have two rail lines that for a short while use the same track, there is a single intersection of 2 tracks merging together and 2 tracks splitting back apart some space apart. I just need them to not crash at the intersection, I dont think the end of the intersection will ever be a problem.

I have placed blocks everywhere that makes sense but the train will stop and won't move even though the other train is behind it on a different block also stopped

[lucid flicker]

guys, does it cost money to make a server

[sick dragon]

I asked why he ever would. And explained the reasoning I dont do it

If he wants to go for it idc

[lucid flicker]

Yo stop beefing over power

[true mulch]

If you host it yourself, you pay for electricity
If you rent a server, you pay for the server
The software itself is free

[sick dragon]

You might want to put this in #1038092680493801533 with a screenshot of the intersection and a better explanation of the behavior( or screenshots of that too)

[atomic notch]

You gotta delete everything before the idc otherwise you obviously do

[lucid flicker]

thanks

[velvet nimbus]

I will if no one wants to help me in real time, this is my day off, I don't want to fix the problem this week sometime lol

[sick dragon]

That doesn't mean y9u won't get help immediately... it makes it so your convo is easily trackable

[leaden dome]

its not that nobody wants to help you its that you cant post screenshots in this channel and that what youre asking for has a dedicated channel that you could use

[sick dragon]

Plenty of people respond to that immediately

[velvet nimbus]

can someone hop into my world and take a look?

[leaden dome]

post the save i got two minutes

[velvet nimbus]

ok how do I post a save?

[leaden dome]

you can upload a file if you open a qna thread

[velvet nimbus]

how about go to the gaming with doc discord and join the voice chat and I am sharing my screen?

[leaden dome]

If I’m rooting in the save file directly I’d rather do it myself

Otherwise just post pics

[velvet nimbus]

ok ill make a screen shot or two give me a minute

[limpid cairn]

Power is infinite you can’t waste it

[clever stone]

https://tenor.com/view/appear-gif-25349256

Hello chat, also darn embeds don’t work here

How is everyone

[reef basin]

we're not chat, this is not twitch

also yeah, embeds are disabled in this channel, your message is a perfect example why

[clever stone]

Darn

[clever stone]

I’ve gotten used to saying chat generally, just a me thing 🫡

[velvet nimbus]

screenshot 1 is up, this is the intersection where the two rail lines merge

ok there are both up now

the other is where they split back apart

[leaden dome]

have you tried path in/block out? I don’t see any signals at all

[velvet nimbus]

there are no signals because I don't know where they go, which ones path or block or how many to use

or how many blocks to create

[leaden dome]

Path signal before the intersection at every enterance, block signals at every exit

Then segment blocks every 100m of track or so along the rest of the railway

[clever stone]

I bought Satisfactory a few days ago and it’s been hard to put down, except for the occasional instance of perpetual blown fuses 😭 I gotta get better at coal plant management

[velvet nimbus]

so you need like hundreds of block signals?

[hard ivy]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

[velvet nimbus]

I thought I only needed them where there could be an accident

[hard ivy]

No, once you place a single signal, you need to signal the entire network

[velvet nimbus]

I wouldn't have to place them after the rails split back apart would I?

[leaden dome]

If your railway is a hundred thousand meters long yes

[leaden dome]

Yes, you would

[velvet nimbus]

That's why this is confusing to people.

[reef basin]

it's only confusing to people who assume things 🙂

[shrewd palm]

at the entrance of ANy intersection put path signals, at the exit of ANY intersection put block signals (as well as intermediately along the track

[velvet nimbus]

It seems to me that I would be creating a small block of track that said don't go in here if there is a train here

[leaden dome]

If there’s a train anywhere in a block then another train can’t enter that block. Therefore if a large section of your railway is one block your trains will be stopping unnecessarily

[leaden dome]

That’s what you’re doing yeah

[velvet nimbus]

and the rest of the track wouldnt have that issue becuase there are no more intersections

[leaden dome]

Blocks only end when you end them

[reef basin]

and trains wouldn't enter "rest of the track" when another train is in there

[velvet nimbus]

ok I will try that

[atomic notch]

You dont even have to signal thats completely optional

[velvet nimbus]

I don't really know how to gauge 100m though does it matter if I am too far off in one way or another

[meager fern]

idk why people need to add signals, 1 interrupted track is proven to have an explosive effect on productivity

[reef basin]

also you don't have to use path signals

[next sundial]

A foundation is 4 meters.

[shrewd palm]

cant really have more than 1 train without signals

[leaden dome]

Alt*left click and aim at your previous block signal

It’ll tell you the distance

[atomic notch]

Yeah single train rails

[next sundial]

Two and a half zoops is 100m

[meager fern]

sure you can, thats how you get the explosive effect

[clever stone]

What phase is train stuff again? Seems fun and interesting

[shrewd palm]

3 i think

[next sundial]

3

[meager fern]

3

[leaden dome]

3

[carmine aspen]

i kinda wish you dont have to find the joint between 2 rails in order to change a signals direction

[next sundial]

That’s the phase I’m in and I’m on my first playthrough. Trains are expensive and massive lol

[leaden dome]

I probably have some 15 trains running about the world atm

[clever stone]

I’m right before that on phase 2 lmao

Really enjoying everything tho it’s really fun

[next sundial]

I’m 100 hours in and still on phase 3. Its a blast

[hard ivy]

? Of what? 1 full zoop of foundations is 80

[next sundial]

Oh then idk how to math whoops

[clever stone]

Heck yeah, I’m kinda just working out my power grids so they don’t stop failing when I least expect them and I think part of that is just getting better at organizing stuff

Still got my valley of unorganized phase 0 machines lol

[next sundial]

That’s exactly what I focused on in phase 2. I built a coal plant with 10 generators. Produces 2.5GW now

[clever stone]

You gotta show me your setup cause man I could use an idea 😆

[next sundial]

It’s not very clean but it works lol

Took what I learned from that and built 14 iron refineries producing like 2,000 ingots per minute

[wicked minnow]

if anybody wants to make £5 check #dedicated-servers you dont even need to know anything about servers, i just need a certain manifest version for the dedicated server from a steam user who has a copy of the game. its fairly simple you just need steamcmd ask chatgpt if confused

[stone python]

[wicked minnow]

i posted appid depo and manifest

[cunning siren]

ZOMG! You can hold E when you have a blueprint selected and the radial menu opens! WOH, thats new to me 😆

[leaden turret]

advising people use chatgpt is bad

[wicked minnow]

i dont expect the average satisfactory player to understand steamCMD CLI

[leaden turret]

it's also shit you can look up on steamdb yourself

[wicked minnow]

probably better to just ask chatgpt what does what

[atomic notch]

dude what even is this

idk what this guys talkin abt but it seems scammy

[wicked minnow]

yeah bro steamcmd scams you and takes all your money

everybody knows about the steamCMD scam

[leaden turret]

they're referring to you yourself, not steamcmd

[wicked minnow]

where you get £5

how is it a scam

[atomic notch]

well i get that but what sending me is that you need someone else to do it

[wicked minnow]

im not asking for anything

[feral geyser]

Then give me 5 bucks

[wicked minnow]

yeah because i dont have key

[atomic notch]

and idk why you need someone else to do it so it seems like a scam

[feral geyser]

I didn't do anything, where's my $5

[wicked minnow]

you need satisfactory to pull thr manifest on steamcmd

if you dont want the money then dont pull the manifest

simple

[leaden turret]

if you know enough to know about steamcmd you should've known enough to know about steamdb, meaning you wouldn't have needed to "offer a bounty"

[feral geyser]

Scammy af, plus if you like at his profile, scummy af

[wicked minnow]

i cant pull the manifest

you can only pull the manifest if you have the game

like i said

[feral geyser]

Then get the game

[leaden turret]

you don't need the game to get the dedicated server.

[wicked minnow]

okay how

[leaden turret]

steamcmd

[wicked minnow]

i have tried pulling the manifest on steamcmd with download_depo

doesn't let me

like i said

[atomic notch]

sry for thinking you were a scammer i just take scamming very seriously

[leaden turret]

you can legit just go and download the dedicated server for free from steam/epic

[wicked minnow]

thats latest version

i need 434535 or summin

[teal geyser]

for what

[wicked minnow]

17th july

[teal geyser]

why

[leaden turret]

free stuff doesn't require login with steamcmd

[wicked minnow]

cuz epic etc is all latest

alright look ill try again

[leaden turret]

[spongebob text] just ask chatgpt

[teal geyser]

No, I'm asking why do you need old info for dedicated server stuff?

[wicked minnow]

because latest server version is incompatible with older clients

[teal geyser]

update the clients?

[wicked minnow]

not possible

[sullen gull]

Can't if out on the seven seas I'd presume.

[leaden turret]

iiiiiis it because you're a pirate? 😛

[teal geyser]

Ah, ok now I understand what he is getting at

[feral geyser]

I'd also like to point out, exactly what type of people advertise "100% white" on their profiles

[atomic notch]

I AM THE ONE TRRUE SOVEREIGN CITIZEN- somewhere out in the pacific

[feral geyser]

Probably not the most savory

[teal geyser]

Well, he is British, so there is that

[hard ivy]

Also is there literally anyone on earth who's literally 100% white? Hell, even 99%?

[leaden turret]

'scuse me, not all brits are [redacted because #rules ]

[leaden dome]

if you go back far enough no

[stone python]

gotta love racist scammers scamming

[feral geyser]

I'm just saying, it's not usually something that non-racist-af people lead with.

[next sundial]

I’m 100% human. Organic and free range.

[wicked minnow]

yes, do you think a swedish man is black or something?

[feral geyser]

Wow

[stone python]

well, this took a weird turn

[feral geyser]

Negative, I am a meat popsicle

[next sundial]

Yikes

[leaden dome]

Humans came from Africa bruv

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> spray bottle needed

[stone python]

i dont like doing this often, but...nvm marv got it

[wicked minnow]

i came from hyperborea bro

[next sundial]

You came from a hospital.

[north cloud]

Knock it off and move on

[hard ivy]

At 7 generations, you're at 0.8% coming from each 1 of your 128 ancestors

[leaden dome]

anyways satisfactory amirite

[feral geyser]

Yeah, belts and pipes and tubes

Train train train DRONE

[leaden dome]

what’s the deal with space elevator food?

[limpid cairn]

Didn’t they come from Asia?

[atomic notch]

idk but she hangry

[hard ivy]

I like how you didn't mention trucks 😂

[next sundial]

That makes me sad. I like trucks.

[feral geyser]

Trucks wish they could be trains

[next sundial]

Underrated little guys

[feral geyser]

But I do like Explorers

[leaden dome]

truck suck man

I am an avid truck hater

[hard ivy]

Last time I used them was like U2-U3

[leaden dome]

they don’t do anything that trains can’t and they require resources instead of power

[white dawn]

Power which (mostly) requires resources, let's not forget. :)

And the one thing they can absolutely do that trains can't is provide long-range logistics during Phase 2. :)

[leaden dome]

Nah I power my trains exclusively on geothermal

[hard ivy]

Even if they had fully automatic pathfinding, I still wouldn't bother using them

[feral geyser]

I need to build elevated roads through certain areas though, cuz Explorers are so fast, doggos will render 10 ft before I hit them 😳

[white dawn]

I admit I generally prefer tractors to trucks

[stone python]

daring today, arent we

[white dawn]

Honestly I've often wanted to link up all geothermal under the map and use it to exclusively power stuff like my trains + hypertubes

I think it's a pretty groovy application for geothermal

[leaden dome]

Trucks aren’t available in phase 2 I thought

[white dawn]

The main problem is just the hassle of creating that isolated grid

[next sundial]

They are. They’re great 😭

[white dawn]

Tractors are; sorry. I tend to just lump all vehicles together. :)

[next sundial]

Stop hating on the tractors and trucks

[white dawn]

As I say, I tend to prefer tractors to trucks. I find I rarely need the extra capacity that trucks give

[hard ivy]

Yeah, great at wasting my time 🙃

[wicked minnow]

mate you might have been right

[white dawn]

But yeah, I tend to go in for tractors pretty heavy during Phase 2

[leaden dome]

Power is something you’re making anyways and doesn’t require you to manually fill the engine

[white dawn]

And I'll build out new tractor routes even well into the lategame

[next sundial]

Why are you manually filling it when there are truck depots with a fuel input

[white dawn]

I ain't manually filling anything; trivial to keep them fuelled automatically. :) And drones require the same thing, but nobody complains about that

[leaden dome]

Manual was the wrong word sorry. I mean you have to supply them with fuel mats instead of just giving them a power cable

[white dawn]

(And also, coal is at least a B+ vehicle fuel in the early game; getting vehicles automated is ezpz)

[hard ivy]

I do. And I don't use drones partially because of that

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, "nobody" was overstating a bit. Still, I'm willing to wager that hardly anyone complains about that. :D

[leaden dome]

Drones are faster and require vastly less effort; they can take anything anywhere regardless of how many mountains are in the way

[white dawn]

If I've gotta move a resource more than like 300m in the early game, I'm usin' a tractor for it. :)

[granite lark]

are steel pipes required for anything or can I just turn my factory into steal beams from the steel pipes

[white dawn]

I'm just saying that fuelling drones is something that most people don't care about, but suddenly they do care about it when it's a tractor/truck instead.

Double standard, is all. :)

[next sundial]

I’m with you. Tractors and trucks need more love

[stone python]

any more love, and we will have baby trucks all over the place

[cunning siren]

I forgot how early fabric can be harvested in the big cave so easy 🤔

[next sundial]

good

[hard ivy]

It's steel beams that can be completely removed from production (other than personal use for train tracks)

[feral geyser]

Those are tractors

[white dawn]

Ground vehicles definitely have their limitations, and some specific niches in which they shine. And they take a fair amount of practice to do "right." You can't just take any ol' proposed logistics line and apply it to vehicles and have it work. But if you work within their limitations, it's great. (And the early game, when you unlock tractors specifically, tends to offer plenty of opportunities for that)

[leaden dome]

Well rest assured I don’t have a single drone

[granite lark]

what recipes require steel pipes

[white dawn]

!wikisearch steel+pipe

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=steel+pipe

[granite lark]

thank you

[white dawn]

^ take a look at the list yourself. :)

[feral geyser]

You can make EIBs out of pipe instead of beams.

[stone python]

i really like iron pipes. they my frieeeeeeeeend

[feral geyser]

Hella iron hungry

[white dawn]

Heh, you're missing out! They're a lot of fun

Honestly, IMO it's well worth folks digging into all the available logistics options

They're all great within their own spaces, and it's nice to have options

[stone python]

[white dawn]

(I mean, if you already have dug into them and decided you just don't like 'em, fair enough of course. :)

[feral geyser]

Wtf kind of emoji is that??

[stone python]

it is from this server LOL. onmly one i could find that could be equated to hungry

[leaden dome]

I think people don’t like it either way but drones are just really strong so they let it slide

[leaden dome]

I’m getting there. I’m automating batteries rn for supercomps and I’ll put the rest into trying out drones

[next sundial]

Mmmm lizard doggo sausage

[feral geyser]

I don't mind fueling things with resources, but if i gotta also make the path and it's gonna be slower, I'll use a drone over trucks anytime.

[leaden dome]

I tried them on a previous save and wasn’t crazy about it but that was before 1.0

[white dawn]

Oh sure; by the time you have drones, Tractors/Trucks are a very niche option

[next sundial]

The idea I’m using in my world is relying on tractors for long hauls until I get a rail network. Using tractors/trucks as feeders to rail hubs and drones for remote locations or priority resources.

[white dawn]

By far my heaviest use of them is during Phase 2, and the number of new routes I add decreases over time as routes make more sense for trains, and later drones

On my 1.0 save I'd ended up using tractors to supply stuff for at least a couple of later-game aluminum factories, though

[versed mesa]

Hi all

[atomic notch]

they prolly just have a niche use that you havent found yet thats why you think they pointless

[leaden dome]

That’s true I am yet to see a scenario in which I would want to use a truck over a train or a drone

[versed mesa]

What would cause some pipes to not get as much fluid and to keep the refineries filled even though I have pumps installed?

[leaden dome]

Pre phase 3 my base is small enough to just run a belt

[leaden dome]

Is it on a manifold?

[white dawn]

I tend to start spreading out immediately, so tractors are quite handy for that

[versed mesa]

Whats manifold ?

[real shale]

🚜

[feral geyser]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 with pictures

[real shale]

I still think this game needs traffic lights for trucks/tractors

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Manifold

[white dawn]

But yeah, if you have trains+drones available already, the ranges at which one might be tempted to do tractors/trucks instead shrinks by quite a bit. But I'd argue that by the time you get to like half a kilometer, both drones+trains start feeling a bit silly and I'd rather be using vehicles for it. :)

[versed mesa]

Damn

[next sundial]

I’d like to see more foundation options for easier road building.

[white dawn]

My shortest tractor route on my 1.0 save was literally like 200m

[white dawn]

I personally recommend never building roads for 'em. Building roads negates one of their major advantages (ie: the nearly-complete lack of required infrastructure)

[real shale]

If I can pull my hair out doing train signalling, why can't I do it for traffic light signalling

[next sundial]

I don’t even need tractors anymore. I’m just building the roads cause I want them lol

[white dawn]

Sticking to the map's "natural" roads does mean that you're a bit limited by route selection, but vehicles tend to work better on the natural roads anyway, oddly enough, and that way you've gotta do practically zero work apart from route recording

[atomic notch]

i dont really use vehicles that much but i remember before they fixed the physics on the explorer it was reall fun to drive

[white dawn]

Yeah, building roads for fun is another thing entirely, of course. :)

[leaden dome]

Line of pipeline junctions that feed a line of refineries

[white dawn]

A lot of folks just assume you need to build roads to make vehicles viable for logistics, though, and that's not the case

[atomic notch]

i used trucks all the time in early access tho

[white dawn]

Anyway, way more blabbering from me than anyone needed; time for some chores. :D

[real shale]

Everyone knows factory carts are the best vehicle for logistics anyway

[next sundial]

Nooo they’re very capable off-road and correct themselves with no input. Theyre great. I just want to build an entire road and rail infrastructure network because it’s fun for me

[versed mesa]

So ive got a pipe that coming upwards straight thats filled up to the top but the pipes leading to the refineries and going along in a line they struggling to even fill up

So then the refineries are struggling to even get full so theres none stop production

[leaden dome]

Do you have pumps on it?

[feral geyser]

Check the headlift indicator on the pumps

[cunning siren]

Caves so pretty

[versed mesa]

Yeah i do ive just installed few more going a long inline at back of refineries

[feral geyser]

.... please send pics

[versed mesa]

Ok warning it be taken from my phone

[feral geyser]

You can't take screenshots?

[versed mesa]

Well yeah but grabbing them ain't simple like pressing button on keyboard to bring them up dont work like I was told to press F

[atomic notch]

theres literally a keyboard command lol

[versed mesa]

If i can id normally send to my phone from windows then post

[zinc wren]

Hey I'm trying to play and my mouse isn't working to look around and the esc menu highlights when i hoveer but ignores clicks
what's going on

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser so right niw the pipe are really trying to go fir it and fill them up

[atomic notch]

did you tab out then try to click back in?

[slow wraith]

im looking for some advice, im getting a little overwhelmed with what i wanna do, and how to go about doing it. The idea is the have a stackable factory with each floor producing the basic materials and then get processed on the next floor and so on. my issue is what to put into that factory. like at what tier do i stop at?. as i assum things like computer for example would go in its own factory and then shipped off to storage? and on floor 1 for things like screws and plates, is it best to overclock all the machines to get the most out of what i put down. i really dont know how to go about doing it

[atomic notch]

happens to me sometimes

[zinc wren]

oh that fixed it

[atomic notch]

sometimes tabbing out messes with it idk why, there might be a fix

[feral geyser]

You can got to photo mode (P) and take pics, then there is a button in photo mode to open the folder where they are stored.

[versed mesa]

Ok thanks

[real shale]

We finish each others...

[feral geyser]

Sandwiches

[real shale]

That's not hygienic

[next sundial]

Fine ill eat it

[atomic notch]

i think when you tab out you have to tab back in

[next sundial]

Fake news

[atomic notch]

maybe its just a bug

[real shale]

Why should you be in a position you need to tab back in, in the first place, I smell a slacker

[cunning siren]

Print screen button and paste directly into discord with CTRL + V also works, I don't need no stinkin' file!

Thats wasted SSD writes!

[real shale]

Or snipping tool

[hard ivy]

Snipping tool saves a copy too

Unless that's a setting I haven't bothered to turn off XD

[peak wasp]

why did nobody tell me I could make factories using the virtual belts

like I didn't know I could go straight from a virtual belt to like a merger

the belts that go up

[real shale]

If it is a setting I've never had it on to begin with, it always makes me have to save it manually

[peak wasp]

vertical

[cunning siren]

WOH ADA just freaked out when I did a bunch of MAM resarch quickly 😆 that's new to me

[real shale]

don't interrupt her

[cunning siren]

She mad

[atomic notch]

nobody should have to tell you anything

we not getting paid

but yeah the vertical belts i use em all the time way faster

[hard ivy]

That's what she gets for taking more than 3 seconds to explain what I've just unlocked

[real shale]

I am a lover of the horizontal lifts myself

[feral geyser]

"Very efficient. Also rude."

[peak wasp]

I mean yeah

[atomic notch]

i love saving a bunch up so i can get a bunch of those voicelines

[peak wasp]

am I doing this right?

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser #screenshots message

[real shale]

Uhhhh idk

[feral geyser]

I meant more like overview of the pipe network, not individual pipes

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[real shale]

That one pipe......it is driving me crazy

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser right now its seams they are are filled up

[real shale]

I can't stand that one single pipe that's off

[peak wasp]

its probably fine xD

[real shale]

Aaaaaaaa

[peak wasp]

if you hate that you should check this out

[feral geyser]

Oh I SEE IT

[peak wasp]

so you guys like storage right?

[versed mesa]

Maybe lmfao

[real shale]

No, I hate storage, I store nothing in my world

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

I created this abomination

[real shale]

That's not even that bad

[versed mesa]

My oil factory is like this lmfao

[real shale]

The one pipe being off was worse

[peak wasp]

oh lol...I figured this storage thing was way worse

[atomic notch]

that looks kinda cool ngl like a cargo bay or sumn

[peak wasp]

I can't find anything in there...nothing is labeled

[atomic notch]

then label it lol

[real shale]

Imagine not having impeccable memory

One day I will finish phase 4.....one day....

[peak wasp]

one day I will automate my power grid

[neat owl]

That's crazy.

[peak wasp]

but right now I need to manually put compacted coal into my turbo fuel generators

[versed mesa]

Yeah ive not started filling them up but each day I am working towards that lmfao

[real shale]

I am doing everything but the space elevator stuff

[versed mesa]

Same that fine

[peak wasp]

in my defence I am doing renovations in this factory and I am trying to use the last of the resources in my old area

[neat owl]

aint no way i've been playing for 3 days and it's already automated, but you're having so much trouble

[peak wasp]

its not having trouble...its more renovations trying to use the last of a buffer so it isn't wasted

[versed mesa]

@real shale keep telling your self everything is fine theres nothing to worry about lmfao

[real shale]

Not to mention I have full intentions to go through a modded playthrough too afterwards

lmao

[earnest oak]

why did i just find out all my foundations werent snapped 😭

[peak wasp]

because I can already automate everything if I wanted to but the problem is wanting to use the last of my resources in a place before moving on...I already did all the math I need for this factory

[real shale]

Happens, but beauty in imperfection (I say as I put zero emphasis on aesthetics in my world)

Me when the factory is ugly Vs me when the factory does not say 100% on every machine

[peak wasp]

right now I am gonna need 5 assemblers pumping out compacted coal

which is about 120 coal and sulfer a minute

[real shale]

Also I found out there was a third quartz node in that rocky desert cave AFTER I had built everything in there

[earnest oak]

i just go to the cave where the pure sam is

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah, 2 pures 1 normal

[real shale]

I thought the normal was above ground

Looked around the rest of the cave, seen the quartz node and was like.....ah....right...

[earnest oak]

AINT NO WAY I USED ALL MY STEEL BEAMS FOR INDUSTRIAL BEAMS BREH i have none left

[real shale]

Guess I'll exploit it and the Sam node out the OTHER end of the cave

[atomic notch]

rip

[versed mesa]

Guys I need to put phone down and crack on I need to build my aluminium train station to go to my starting location so I can deliver casings

[cerulean trench]

so whats the deal with just one on one multiplayer? my buddy and i want to start a world but it seems to default to single player?

[feral geyser]

Just change the session type

[cerulean trench]

weve done that but he has to change it, leave aand theen start the session back up it seems

[feral geyser]

Yes

[atomic notch]

thats prolly part of changing the session i sssume

[feral geyser]

There is no one correct way. For me, overclocking should be though of as a tool used sparingly, not a default. I like to make each building as independent as possible.

[heavy pine]

I'll overclock miners and such, but usually when it comes to putting down construction machines I'll place more than the math calls for and then underclock them all equally.

[feral geyser]

#screenshots message
@uncut pier drones can only go back and forth between 2 ports, they can't auto fly between more than 2

[feral geyser]

Yes, always overclock miners/extractors when you can, they are the exception

[heavy pine]

Like if it says I need 9.5 machines I'll put down 10 and underclock them all to 95%.

I've also been known to overclock generators just so I don't have to place a huge number of them.

[real shale]

guilty side eye

[peak wasp]

does this look right?

[uncut pier]

oh I see, so I essentially need like 4 drone ports miminmum to deliver a thing?

Fuel Pick Up
Fuel Drop Off
Item Pick Up
Item Dropoff

[peak wasp]

I haven't done vertical building before yet\

#screenshots message

[real shale]

Horizontal building is supreme anyway

[heavy pine]

The way I did it, I had a Fuel Distribution drone depot that held all the fuel, and everywhere that I had a drone setup I'd add one for fuel storage, with its drone going to Fuel Distribution to get loaded up.

[feral geyser]

They only need fuel at one end of their flights, so just take fuel to whichever end is closest.

[uncut pier]

That makes sense, that way that one drone can fuel multiple other drones if they are built next to each other

I''m getting close to completing phase 4 so I'm at the point where small quantities of things need to be moved long distance

[heavy pine]

Exactly. The fuel storage depot feeds fuel to all the other depots at the site.

[peak wasp]

man was that spitter rude

I was enjoying some delious cake and then he comes and spits plasma in my face

[heavy pine]

The wildlife has no manners, that's why I set them to passive.

[peak wasp]

then I shot him to death

[shrewd palm]

i hope you returned the favour

[real shale]

The flavour

[peak wasp]

and everything is automated for my power setup

I just need to do the math of how many power generators I need to make

looks like I can do 16 power generators

does that sound right for 120 turbo fuel?

for a total of 4000mw

[mental void]

why are there no vc channels?

[violet oyster]

Pioneers cant talk

[peak wasp]

because we are nerds and we all sound like shit

[real shale]

I'm not a nerd :(

[violet oyster]

stfu nerd

[peak wasp]

we are playing a game about optimizing a factory ...we are nerds face the reality

[real shale]

Whoa, that escalated

[peak wasp]

stuffs the nerd into a locker

[real shale]

No.

[earnest oak]

NAH

aint no way im just learning this

you can have 2 differents items on the same belt and put it into a assembler/fpundry

through 1 input

[peak wasp]

yeah but if the amount of items in the belt are uneven they could jam up

[meager fern]

i dont think that would be super reliable

[peak wasp]

you need to make sure there is the correct amount of items going in or you are fucked

[earnest oak]

ya but still never knew that

[meager fern]

im not suprised since it doesnt really differentiate between the 2 inputs in the recipe, but i've never needed to find that out because it doesnt seem like a good idea

[peak wasp]

one thing to learn in this game...just because you can do it doesn't mean its always a good idea

[earnest oak]

works for me

i wont use it but still a cool thing

[plain gate]

usually good if the items /min is below 300

so 1/4 of a belt

[mental void]

...nuclear power plants

i wanna build one

im only on tier 2 tho and i wanna actually not build spaghetti this run so uh

in 200 hours maybe lol

[dense violet]

you probaly want to make a lot more than 1. At that point you'd probably want 10 you could over clock and that'd be a nice chunk of power

[leaden dome]

If you’re gonna do nuclear at all it would be a shame to get so little out of it

[teal geyser]

Do I just call you Mojer then?

[peak wasp]

or instead you could just use rocket fuel or turbo fuel

that shits good even end game...just expect you make a ungodly amount of fuel gens

[granite lark]

what does the bar graph symbol next to mw and seconds mean

efficiency?

[teal geyser]

Somebody told me that with the right alts, you can use HOR to make Diluted Packaged fuel and get more fuel than you ever would out of turbo fuel

Turbo fuel is also cool. I've done that once

[teal geyser]

The whole graph you mean?

[granite lark]

I wish i could send images

its just the little symbol

[teal geyser]

Send them in #screenshots if you can. Windows button + Shift + S for snipping tool

[granite lark]

I'm making the maximum possible amount of power with the amount of coal gens I have but it says a number lower than 100%

let me know when you see it cause I wanna delete it after

[teal geyser]

Why do you want to delete it?

[wicked marlin]

cant tell if the aliens consider blood to be information or electricity.
at least I can confirm they're word "temple" is our "building" or "machine"

[granite lark]

fluids are extremely weird and I think it has to do with that

[granite lark]

don't want to cloud chat

[cunning siren]

I forget some folk don't have a print screen button on their keyboards anymore 😆

[teal geyser]

The 3rd number on the right is efficiency. You are correct

[teal geyser]

It is what the channel is for

[dense violet]

every other channel lets you, this isn't a great trouble shooting channel

and ignore hte efficiency meters. They often lie

[teal geyser]

Must be crazy to not have a full keyboard these days

[granite lark]

gotcha was just hoping for a quick answer
the questions and help takes a while

[cunning siren]

Nah, it's a matter of preference not sanity

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta is also a channel you can figure thigns out in for less complex things

[teal geyser]

Why would you not want a num pad though?

[cunning siren]

If one does not know how to use it well it just wastes desktop space 🤷

[teal geyser]

I suppose so

[cunning siren]

Just think, every Bacon Agaric has been chillin' for millions of years and you pick it once... RIP no more 😆

[meager fern]

if they are mushrooms then they probably havent been chillin. spores grow, produce more spores, and die

[cunning siren]

I've never seen that in my game 🤷

[meager fern]

so electricity magically stops animals from reproducing?

because the hostile mobs act that way, even though they would be breeding

if you can assume they existed before the game took place, then you can also assume that they would behave similar to real mushrooms despite not being depicted as a mechanic

[cunning siren]

8x doggos so far

[hollow vector]

oh , you got some work to do

[cursive phoenix]

😧

[velvet nimbus]

They need an upgraded hover pack option that requires like 20 Batteries to make and gives you battery backup flight time. maybe 20 seconds with no power connection before it drains as normal

[dense violet]

you're aware if you hold space you'll float down right?

[velvet nimbus]

Yep I am talking about normal flight until your battery runs out or you hit another grid

I can't believe my efforts last night got the wikipedia changed lol

[feral geyser]

Which ones, I missed it

[velvet nimbus]

It said you needed 1100 total Pasta to finish the game but it's 1200

[dense violet]

just gotta ask

and or point something out

[feral geyser]

I added columns for the hit points of various critters to the page for creatures, cuz previously you had to go to each individual page to find that.

[velvet nimbus]

Well you did more than me, I just complained that it was wrong and someone else said ok fixed.

[feral geyser]

That's the nice thing about wikis, we can edit them ourselves (just be prepared to defend your changes)

[velvet nimbus]

Oh I am too old for stuff like that

[feral geyser]

Your age is a mindset, you got this.

[velvet nimbus]

oh yeah you think so

Well, how about this

Last night when I discovered that I needed 100 more pasta to make one of the last elevator parts, I set up my little setup again to make pasta at like 1 per min slooped

So I made my 100 and then decided to store them in the cloud, where I realized that I had already banked 100 there and forgot about that

🙂

[feral geyser]

Oh lord... 😭

[meager fern]

👴

[feral geyser]

i'd misplace my head if i didn't have a neck

[meager fern]

that type of stuff has happened to me before. just the other day i went around to get 10 hard drives for the stitched plates recipe, when i already had it

[feral geyser]

but if i saw a paperclip under my desk, i'll remember it a year later when i need one

[meager fern]

i cant remember where things are, but i'll know its here somewhere

"i know i saw that around here somewhere, where was it?" then i'll look around half the house where i might've seen it, until i am looking for something else and find it in a place that wasnt very likely

[velvet nimbus]

did you know at full health you can survive any fall

[dense violet]

iirc you need the bladrunners for that

[meager fern]

"Blade Runners cap the maximum fall damage at 96 health points or 9.6 health segments. Without the Blade Runners, the fall damage is capped at 97 instead."

so at full health you can survive any fall

i also knew it from experience, but a line from the wiki with actual numbers seemed more credible

[versed mesa]

Am now producing the next one up from the Heavy modular and both of those are slow at producing the heavy modular its taking time to get screws so to fix that issue is to have more producing Rods then the screws

[dense violet]

use steel beams instead

much faster at producing lots of screws

[versed mesa]

Or i did not know that thanks

[dense violet]

steel screw recipe is very convenient for most screw needing recipes

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Screws

[versed mesa]

Nice

[violet oyster]

Wow, 326 hours, and I had my first crash.

[feral geyser]

Steel screws is the only reason screws don't unilaterally suck.

[cunning siren]

Its odd building big stuff with nothing but a parachute and a ladder 😆

[grim ermine]

This is the most depressing story ive heard in my entire life

[grim ermine]

Cast screws

[feral geyser]

Excellent early game, not super helpful later on

[grim ermine]

Well that would make sense. I still am in early game so I wouldn't know

What other screw recipes are good for later on?

[feral geyser]

Steel screws

Only other one

But beams can be made out of aluminum later too, instead of steel.

[grim ermine]

That sounds much easier

[feral geyser]

One constructor on regular steel beams can feed 3 constructors making steel screws, which can entirely fill a Mk5 belt.

So it's pretty sweet

[grim ermine]

Yeah that sounds incredible compared to the default recipe

[solar hamlet]

I try not to do screws... Ever 😄

I have hatred I cannot explain for the blue boxes on belts 😄

[teal geyser]

Because of the default recipes?

[grim ermine]

I feel like before you get mk5 belts and steel screws they are hell no matter what recipe you use

[reef basin]

*One of many

[reef basin]

Eh, they are very much fine

[silk ocean]

I seem to have survived just fine with screws xD

<eye twitches>

[dense violet]

most recipes that need them need less than 270pm so mk3s are easy

[reef basin]

99% of people who hate screws do so because they decided to build them in a weird way that creates the issues they are complaining about

[silk ocean]

Inject them directly into the next stage rather than trying to do megabelts

[dense violet]

and it's common early on for you to do that when you don't know how to do logistics

[hidden sparrow]

I LOVE SCREEEEEWS

Im just sad that most receipe are more efficients without screws

[reef basin]

that depends on how you define "efficient"

[hidden sparrow]

I ment with ressources

[reef basin]

yeah, still depends - how you value one resource over another, which other recipes you have available and want to use, etc.

[hidden sparrow]

I just wanna screw around uknow

[heavy geyser]

I just build box schematics with iron only as this is available everywhere and yep try to skip screws. Then I just drop my boxes and I am fine

But yep you need multiple alternative recipes

[reef basin]

I wouldn't skip screws just for sake of skipping screws

if you decide on recipes which by coincidence don't use screws, that's fine, but "just get rid of screws" isn't a valid reasoning imo

[heavy geyser]

Agree

[teal geyser]

He is making it sound like screws kicked his dog or something

[worldly pelican]

isn't that only !qa? 🙂

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @worldly pelican

[worldly pelican]

or did it had an alias?

[reef basin]

don't think it did

[cunning siren]

TIL a parachute will not save you from all hypertube cannon speeds 😆

[shy mulch]

Everything is destiny. If you are meant to fly into a cliff at 18000mph, then that shall be

[silk ocean]

You can slow down from hypercannon speeds using the jetpack in pretty quick time

You can also easily turn a lot, I often fire in one direction and turn more than 90 degrees from the cannon in flight

[silk rose]

Use jelly pad

Aesthetic

Hoverpack clutch

Use slopes to not get fall damaged

Its last thing that can kill you

Fall damage L

[silk ocean]

P, R... cheaty xD

Decoupled Camera mode xD

Actually I think you still fall

[shy mulch]

Pro tip: You never take damage from horizontal deceleration. You can hypertube cannon launch yourself and just aim for the side of a cliff or building or wall and you'll be fine

[silk ocean]

Yea you kinda boing off

Similar story if you get into a dronestrike, I've been whacked by one and kicked hundred metres or so xD

[grim ermine]

#screenshots message

First time using Blueprints,think it looks good

[silk ocean]

Looks very TRON Legacy

Nice

[silk rose]

Aim to glass wall to get bonk sound

[real shale]

Imagine that, you can hypertube cannon into a glass wall and hear the sliding noise as your corpse slowly runs down the window lmao

You've heard of angry birds, now get ready for angry pioneers

[silk ocean]

Sounds like a case of Viscera Cleanup Detail

[silk rose]

Bad factories

[real shale]

The hogs have taken over the factory....KNOCK IT DOWN, fling pioneers at Mach 20 at it with the hypertube cannon

[silk rose]

Insert mobile game ad

[real shale]

ThePioneer27

[shy mulch]

Bonk

[limpid cairn]

Always aim for the space elevator

[shy mulch]

The addiction is real. I'm trying to work and just thinking about my Steel production 🤦

[blissful atlas]

For those in the late game (phase 5 onwards)
How many motors per min does your world produce

[reef basin]

5-10/min

[blissful atlas]

That's it?

Not sure how much should I be producing since I'm thinking to use some of the extra iron for a heavy modular frame factory

[limpid cairn]

Like 50 max

or wait no

It’s like 25 max

[blissful atlas]

U don't need that much late game?
Or the higher tier recipes are limited by smth else

[limpid cairn]

7.5 I think for RCU and the rest for personal use

[vale grotto]

Oh I've used a west facing cannon to fly 2000 meters east because of jetpack maneuverability

[limpid cairn]

There’s like 1 recipe that I use that need them lol

Cooling device if you’re interested

[vale grotto]

Not even for turbo motors?

[limpid cairn]

Not set upped 😛

I crafted like spare 500 of them with slopped manufactures and I didn’t run out yet so I don’t think I’ll need more for now

[cunning glade]

chat

when does the Christmas event start

[limpid cairn]

At Christmas ?

(Most likely 1st Sunday December?)

[sick dragon]

They run it for a month due to the advent calendar so yes would start on the 1st

I think they usually put it till like mid january

[limpid cairn]

The advent calendar doesn’t start on the first no?

It starts on first Sunday iirc ?ö

[ashen belfry]

Our Christmas calendar we had as childs started at the first of December

[sick dragon]

Its a full month so I dont see why it could start any later

[limpid cairn]

@obsidian zodiac is there a religion dedicated to believing in ficsit gods ?

[obsidian zodiac]

is that not this discord?

[limpid cairn]

No we are all just nerds who enjoy the game

[obsidian zodiac]

oh then no. not yet

[leaden turret]

Brain was bleh

[shy mulch]

ALL HAIL HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS LIZARD DOGGO THE GREAT

[pallid snow]

Whats best place to spawn for a new player?

[limpid cairn]

so when is the ficsit religion coming out
***we can use the plumber manual as a religious artifact replacement for now since it’s basically godlike ***

[shy mulch]

The 4 regions each have a description and explanation

[cunning glade]

i wasnt sure if it would be the 1st or before then

doing a playthrough with my friend whos never played and ik they'll like it so im hyped for it

[shy mulch]

look back at patch notes and find the announcement of ficsmas 2024, it'll probably tell you the date that started, and this year will very likely be the same

[cunning glade]

it was the 3rd

[reef basin]

For personal storage it's more than enough

Production for other factories is built with other factories

[shy mulch]

The patch notes were posted on the 3rd
But it says
"The FICS*MAS event will be available in the 1.0 and Experimental versions of the game from December 1st 2024, until January 18th 2025!"

[blissful atlas]

Ahh I was thinking across the whole world
Cuz I'm thinking to mass produce them in 1 area and just ship them to wherever needed unless that other place has enough resources to produce motors comfortably

[reef basin]

It always starts 1st December

[reef basin]

I wouldn't recommend that

[blissful atlas]

Oh?

[reef basin]

It's usually a logistical nightmare

Easier to produce them where needed, or at least have separate production for separate places

And generally it's easier if you don't try to produce "for future", unless you know what you'll need in future

[limpid cairn]

The only stuff you want to ship is stuff with high build trees no?

[blissful atlas]

It's generally reccomended to have modular factories?

[hard ivy]

I don't ship anything except ores

[reef basin]

Personally I'd build factory near nodes that uses the nodes to make final product to depot/storage

[south sinew]

Different people recommend different things, I personally built one factory for almost everything

[blissful atlas]

Isn't one factory logistically worse?
Way too much belts and pipes going around

[limpid cairn]

Do you have 1 mega factory or what?

[south sinew]

I don't think so

the amounts of belts and pipes isn't lesser or more, the things you're belting and piping are just more conveniently located next to each other

[hard ivy]

no, every factory just dumps into the depot and nothing else

[reef basin]

It is yeah, megafactories are usually not recommended

[limpid cairn]

So if you need fused modular frames you just craft new ones at the place where it’s needed?

[blissful atlas]

Honestly allowing dimensional depots to be used as an output would be nice too

[limpid cairn]

Would be too op imo

[south sinew]

by some people

[hard ivy]

it would be game breaking

[reef basin]

It doesn't matter where, because it goes to depot

[shy mulch]

that would completely remove one of the most interesting parts of the game - global logistics

[limpid cairn]

No point in using drones trains trucks etc

[reef basin]

By most people

[south sinew]

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[reef basin]

Source: this discord

[blissful atlas]

But u would still be "limited" with the number of depots
And the 240 limit of input per container would still limit the amount u can withdraw from 1 at any point in time (you could have multiple inputting and outputting but there's only so many mercer spheres that exist)

[south sinew]

shrug, even being in the discord is a huge selection bias

[shy mulch]

My solution was half and half. I have a mini-mega-factory, producing 22 of the more complex things, and it is fed by about 25 more basic things

[reef basin]

Even logically it doesn't make sense to bring resources to single place, when you can just build near resources

[shy mulch]

my main factory is fed by 17k items per minute on a number of trains. That would only need about 1/3 of the available mercer spheres if depot outputs were possible

[blissful atlas]

Wait I thought easily 100 is being used just for upgrades?

[shy mulch]

Logistically yes, but I'd argue there's 2 situations where that isn't necessarily the preferred way
1 - When you're pushing the limits of scale of available resources, sometimes it's easier to blueprint spam the production of basic things, then pull those basic items together into one place to make more complex things
2 - Megafactories look cool

[cunning glade]

I see

[reef basin]

Logically, not logistically 🙂

[blissful atlas]

And 17k per min actually equals 34k total input and output
Which is like 140 spheres

[reef basin]

But that also I guess

[shy mulch]

Apologies, in my haste to argue with someone online I forgot to read the question

[reef basin]

"I want to do X" is obviously always a valid argument, but I usually ignore that, as otherwise everything is valid and no reason to discuss anything then 🙂

[shy mulch]

I wasn't thinking of them needing one at each side, fair point, but even then, there's plenty

[blissful atlas]

Oh fr?

[shy mulch]

There's still scope to discuss pros and cons of certain approaches

[shy mulch]

There's 300-ish in total, and 100-ish needed for research, so 200-ish available

[blissful atlas]

Damnn

I mean I get the point of not allowing depots to have outputs just would be a cool idea (def game breaking) to have to simplify logistical transporting

[reef basin]

Yeah but I just don't mention the "..., unless ofc you want to build it that way for sake of building it that way" suffix at the end of every answer I give 🙂 but you can read it as if it was there

[shy mulch]

Oh I feel you there. Sometimes I feel like I need to put a lawyer-written exemption clause at the end of every message. The joy of trying to help people for free and getting a hard time for it. I'm sure you're used to it by now, I'm relatively new here but I've had it for years in other games.

[cunning glade]

Hey chat anyone have some nice compact assembler or constructors bps or even smelter if so feel free too send them in dms I'm pretty sure I can ask in here and it seems people like sharing blueprints unless I'm mistaken

[reef basin]

Oh I have so many stories I could tell 🙂 yeah, you gotta get used to it, some people just want validation of their idea and feel personally attacked by other suggestions. And some just block you because they take one of your messages out of context and then shove that out-of-context-msg in your face constantly, reminding you of how "wrong" you were

[reef basin]

Sure, you can ask here (though not share files), but personally I'd recommend making your own blueprints, to learn the game better 🙂

[cunning glade]

That's my plan

But I like taking inspiration

Other people incorporate parts I wouldn't think of

So I like seeing what people make🤷

[jade frigate]

Is there a channel dedicated to the best alternate recipes?

[white dawn]

No, because there's no such thing as the "best" alternate recipes

Basically all recipes are at least situationally useful. They're there to give you options while building

It's true that there are some which are more general-purpose than others, but there are very few recipes with anything approaching wide consensus

(and even those will have people who have different opinions)

People making "tier lists" and such for alt recipes are completely missing the point of them

[unkempt blade]

I'd suggest always using the one with the most screws in the ingredients

[nocturne condor]

Well its time to set up steel production. I have strange hateful feelings towards steel in any factory game. I just really hate steel.

[unkempt blade]

have you considered steel immersion therapy where you only pick recipes that use the maximum amount of steel until you learn to love it?

[covert vault]

I would give my left nut for some mk3 pipes atm....

[nocturne condor]

No I haven't. And i don't think i will. I don't have an issue setting up steel production, i just dislike doing it and idk why

[unkempt blade]

yeah but the only solution for irrational hatred is an irrational therapeutic plan to help you change your outlook

[jade frigate]

So screws are these type of ,,Always a problem" things? Is there any other ingredients that are also always problem?

[atomic notch]

Same for me but with copper powder

[unkempt blade]

nah it's just people doing hatred memes because we're on the internet, screws are the best

[nocturne condor]

I like screws because while there may be another step involved, you get a lot of product for little input

[nocturne condor]

Fix the irrational with irrational! What a brilliant idea! (I wish this server allowed gifs. I have one i wanna send;-;)

[nocturne condor]

I clearly have not made it that far as i didn't even know that was a thing

[versed mesa]

👋

[atomic notch]

Its a really basic production just turnin ingots to powder in a constructor the problem is how many ingots you need

[unkempt blade]

yeah it's really simple it just uses a mountain of copper to make it 😆

[versed mesa]

Am on the last task with tier 8 and it put me off soon as I looked at it again lmfao

[unkempt blade]

copper powder is one I like to set up in some corner of the map I'm not using for anything else and just use the full node(s) and drone the powder where I need it

I usually want at least one full pure node for it given its conversion rate to powder

[versed mesa]

Lol

One of the things needed to produce is Turbo engine woah lmfao

Defo going to dream at completing tier 8 lmfao

How long did it take some of yous to complete tier 8 and phase 4 ?

[rustic hare]

30hrs ish

[versed mesa]

And was that none stop or you rest in each day doing them ?

[rustic hare]

play time

[marble crow]

hello

[blissful fable]

my fuel generators arent getting enough fuel or the last few arent anyway i can have 30 fuel generators but i only have 28 fuel generators but idk whats going on they are all on the same level so i have no clue whats going on

[versed mesa]

So you was awake for 30 hours ?

[rustic hare]

no, my save advanced 30hrs from the start to end of phase 4

[jolly belfry]

So I've spent 2h looking for an issue in my factory. Two goddamn hours.

Turns out all of the problems were caused by a single, unupgraded mk1 belt in an offsite mining rig

[rustic hare]

gets the best of us all the time

[marble crow]

I have a small question, how to make in game icons.. more sharp? because it looks now like my eyes are covered in soap

[versed mesa]

So yeah you mite of rested each day and done it in days

[rustic hare]

yes, and the hour count on a save is a more accurate metric because each person play at their own pace

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[marble crow]

somebody? please, i fr dont know what exactly i need to change in settings...

[rustic hare]

mind washing our eyes too by sending how it looks for you in #screenshots ?

[marble crow]

oh ok

[versed mesa]

Maybe try drinking some beers lmfao

[rustic hare]

well sadly no, I don't remember any settings that change those

[marble crow]

lol, i did it yesterday

[marble crow]

damn...

[versed mesa]

Theres you issue you got hangover lmfao

[versed mesa]

Is this even possible lol

[marble crow]

nope, it was 0,5l 2,5% radler

[versed mesa]

Your weak lmfao

[marble crow]

i think yes, because.. why not.. it looks so soapy

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[marble crow]

i was not drunk at all, i just like the taste

[versed mesa]

Yeah am saying your weak drinking low % lmao

[marble crow]

and also i dont think that in 18yo i "need" to drink untill i will be drunk as bum

[versed mesa]

Lol

[marble crow]

at least its tasty

[versed mesa]

@marble crow thats fine as long you like it theres no problem

[real shale]

Consume.

[last vortex]

Is it possible to reduce elevator window pop-in?

Glass foundations render at distance just fine, but elevator windows... https://i.imgur.com/JtcJnC8.gifv

[versed mesa]

@gaunt saffron thats one huge factory city lol

[gaunt saffron]

I love the look of pure factory!

[versed mesa]

@gaunt saffron what you producing in that factory?

[gaunt saffron]

This is the ''starter'' mega factory producing almost every Item in the Game

Maybe not efficiently but it works

[versed mesa]

Omgl

[gaunt saffron]

There's a whole other side to it

[versed mesa]

Or my crazy lol

[last yew]

Anyyone tryna start a co-op?

[gaunt saffron]

This game is something

[versed mesa]

Yeah it is lol

[gaunt saffron]

#1201555265942724758

[last yew]

game hurts my brain

[versed mesa]

@gaunt saffron the mechanics are cool

@gaunt saffron how many batteries you got ?

[gaunt saffron]

100,000mwh

25,000 extra for ermegency's

The NUMBERS are perfect!

[versed mesa]

So hold on so 1 holds 100 mw let me work out how many that is lmfao

[gaunt saffron]

1000

[versed mesa]

So 10 batteries is 1k mw

[gaunt saffron]

1000 batterys

100000:100

[versed mesa]

Or my lord

[gaunt saffron]

It's quite easy with blueprints 😓

[versed mesa]

I was trying to work the maths out why spo8l it for me lmfao

[gaunt saffron]

...

[versed mesa]

I bet it is i need to learn with it

[gaunt saffron]

Yes!

[versed mesa]

Is there any sort of tutorial for the designer

[gaunt saffron]

I don't think so

[versed mesa]

Damn

[gaunt saffron]

On Youtube there's probably sth.

[versed mesa]

Like ive seen what people are doing with it

[gaunt saffron]

I'm not the architecture kind of guy in video games

[versed mesa]

Tbh I would not know where to fully begin on creating lom

[versed mesa]

Yeah i could be the same but ill try do what I can to look cool lol

[leaden turret]

if you find yourself making the same thing over and over again, but the time spent making a blueprint would be short enough that it's worth making a blueprint, make a blueprint

[versed mesa]

True lol

I just try do what I can to create objects for the tasks once something is producing thats all that matters for me for now lol

[hearty plank]

where do i change my console/debug key again?

[gaunt saffron]

#1038092680493801533

[nocturne condor]

is there anywhere i can report bugs? i found a patch of water that.. isnt water
#screenshots message

[hearty plank]

quick question to you, do you know if it just named "ConsoleKeys" for naming purpose or if you can atually bind many

[hearty plank]

yes, from the game reporter

redirects you to a website

[gaunt saffron]

I can't help you sorry

[hearty plank]

kk

[reef basin]

*1 GW
(and more likely 1GWh, not 1GW)

[versed mesa]

Lol

[scarlet canopy]

Is rail placement on foundations bugged? Cant make them straight as in parallel to the left and right edge of the foundation

[meager fern]

i've always been kind of confused about that. does that mean it gives 1 gigawatt of power for 1 hour?

[reef basin]

making 1GW of power over one hour

so yeah, basically what you said

[hard ivy]

or 2 GW over half an hour. or 0.5 GW over 2 hours and so on

[meager fern]

i almost thought i understood it and now im confused again. how would it make more power over less time, and less power over more time?

[leaden dome]

because the ratio remains the same

if you're using half a gigawatt, it takes half a gigawatt hour over one hour, therefore one gigawatt hour supplies half a gigawatt for two hours

[hard ivy]

because the slower you use it, the longer it lasts

[leaden dome]

if youre using two gigawatts, it takes two gigawatt hours over one hour, therefore one gigawatt hour supplies two gigawatts for half an hour

[marble crow]

btw, how to change gender for my character in game?

[hard ivy]

you don't

[leaden dome]

cant afaik

[marble crow]

uh, ok, thats strange

[leaden dome]

not really because this game isnt about your character

[reef basin]

good example how to understand it is if you imagine it as water flowing through pipe

power (measured in watts, ingame as MW) can be imagined as pipe diameter, the more watts, the more flow
energy (measured in watthours or joules, ingame as MWh) can be imagined as the water flowing

so if you double the size of pipe, you need half the time to move all the water (and hence if you double the power usage, your batteries will drain in half the time)

[meager fern]

just to make sure im understanding it correctly. if you were producing 1 GWh, you would have 2GW after 2 hours right?

[leaden dome]

yup

[meager fern]

okay now it makes sense, thanks

[reef basin]

you're never producing GWh, you're always producing GW

[meager fern]

dont confuse me 😡

my brain has to work in simple terms to understand concepts

[leaden dome]

if you were producing one gigawatt for two hours you would have two gigawatt hours

[reef basin]

if you wanted to charge batteries to 1 GWh, you'd need to produce 1 GW for a full hour, but you could produce 2 GW and make it in half an hour

[reef basin]

(just fyi, it's spelled gigawatthours not gigawatt hours 🙂 )

[meager fern]

"The gigawatt hour (GWh) is a unit for measuring energy"

[reef basin]

so to correct your example - if you were producing 1 GW, you would have 2GWh after 2 hours

[reef basin]

oh then apparently I've been taught wrong 😄

(or it's different in our country)

[meager fern]

could be

[leaden dome]

gigawatt-hours is gigawatts times hours thats pretty much it

[low monolith]

You can use a distance analogy.

To move 100km in ten hour you need to move 10km/h.
To charge a 100GW.h battery in ten hour you need to have a power of 10GW.

in both case you divide by h (hours) to get the "speed"

[spice patio]

Wrong? 100km/h speed for 100km in hour.
100GW in hour for 100GWh.
original changed from single hour to ten hours.

[low monolith]

yes my bad lmao

[spice patio]

yeah, now correct.

But basically math with the units.

Watts and Hours.

[low monolith]

But yes Watt hours are confusing

[reef basin]

I find more people not understanding watts than watthours

[low monolith]

It would be easier to use J and J/h imo

[spice patio]

Yeah, but basically failure of math & physics teaching in schools.

[mossy moon]

can we talk abt the "killowatt hour/1000h" thing

[tranquil maple]

Juoles arent electricity tho, just normal energy

[spice patio]

To not get people to understand that you are doing math with SI units.

[reef basin]

joules are any energy, including electricity

[low monolith]

Watts are also used for other types of energies?

[tranquil maple]

Oh I'm dumb ig

[mossy moon]

ye i think so

heating power is one

[reef basin]

other types of power 😛

[low monolith]

yeah we should all use kg.m2.s-3 😎

[meager fern]

why would we use joules? that sounds awful. 1k joules is .278 watt-hours according to a website

[low monolith]

power of other energies, you get what i meant

[reef basin]

because 1J = 1W * 1s

[low monolith]

Because multiplying by hours is weird and not intuitive whereas dividing by hours is, imo
intuitive because we're used to do it with other units

[atomic notch]

I use calories to measure energy bc im a cook

[spice patio]

No difference in the end.
Just need to be aware that it is W*h, not Wh as the unit.

[meager fern]

i'll never use joules and you cant make me 🙁

[spice patio]

Where with division that is explicitly spelled out.

[low monolith]

Just saying it would be more intuitive (imo still)

[nocturne condor]

I think my character lost their mind. I was fighting stingers, killed them all and then was on my way doing what i needed to do. suddenly a stinger walks up behind me, hits me and runs off and.. it was just gone. i watched it just vanish and it never came back

[reef basin]

Watt hours are more useful for e.g. appliances for kitchen, but Watt seconds are usually used for scientific purposes

[meager fern]

mmm calories. like the 18-20 billion calories in a gram of uranium

[reef basin]

same as km/h vs m/s

[shy mulch]

If we assume a hamster running around a ball treadmill in full panic mode produces around half a watt, then a hamster running on the treadmill for a full year will be around 1.6^7 joules, we can call this a hamster-orbit, or HO. Effectively this allows us equate 1GW = 0.225MHO (mega hamster-orbits)
I think this is a far more useful and relatable measure of power

[low monolith]

how many electronvolts tho?

[mystic oriole]

but that's pure uranium, even in reactors it's not pure, lots of other materials there to slow the reaction and neutron absorbers to help convert the reaction to heat units.

[leaden dome]

What if we measured energy in pushups

[meager fern]

wouldnt that be a round about way to measure in calories or joules?

[leaden dome]

no it would be pushups

[mystic oriole]

americans, would use anything but metric

[low monolith]

are you american? with all your human related units

[meager fern]

but you would have to have some way to actually measure it, like the amount of calories burnt doing 1 pushup or something

[atomic notch]

Some people burn more calories bc of muscle efficiency

[meager fern]

and the pushup wouldnt be a standard unit of measurement, because different pushups would generate different amounts of energy, or burn calories

[atomic notch]

Pushup not a good metric

[tranquil maple]

Calories are always measured in heat tho

[mystic oriole]

also a pushup could be measured in Newtons.

[low monolith]

ever heard of inches and feets? :>

[tranquil maple]

???

No, no thats not how that works

[atomic notch]

Its just another energy unit

[leaden dome]

Just put someone on a push up machine and see how many pushups they have to do to operate each machine I can’t think of a single flaw with this idea

[mossy moon]

thats force, not energy

[meager fern]

ive never heard of thumbs, but a foot is a standardized unit of measurement that started out from 1 foot and then got assigned a specific value. i think that pushups vary a bit too much to say "this is what a standard pushup does"

[leaden turret]

why you want to use a particular style of brassiere as a unit of measurement?

[tranquil maple]

Newtons measure force inflicted on an object

[mossy moon]

what if someone does a slow pushup

or someone heavier than avergae

[mystic oriole]

right the force applied in the pushup. So using pushups isn't feasible unit of measurement.

[meager fern]

what if someone does a pushup and on the way down use their abs to hit a medicine ball

[frozen shoal]

why the hell hasn't solar been added to the game yet, it's the best and most efficent form of energy and since it's just a sim game cost isn't a factor.

we need solar power added in the next update.

[meager fern]

they dont plan to have green energy, theres mods for that

[mossy moon]

it dosent fit with the game and stuff, theres a video abt why they wont add renewables (and why they wont add other stuff)