satisfactory

[keen jacinth]

hm

[hard ivy]

even a fully OCed machines should be absolutely possible

[keen jacinth]

how much iron ore total with mk3 fully overclocked

[hard ivy]

like 90k

[keen jacinth]

insane

[feral geyser]

Call with the Buddhist save

one with everything

[keen jacinth]

i plan to make

the superstructure from rainworld

[feral geyser]

Idk what that is

[dense violet]

big cube on pillars

[ashen mauve]

🙁 dont know if i want to continue building my factory with the conveyer hole bug then having to fix it all later ._.

[feral geyser]

What bug?

[placid stirrup]

The hole bug

[dense violet]

don't use the bug then?

[feral geyser]

I'm unaware of a hole bug

[hard ivy]

me neither

[placid stirrup]

It's like the bug plug but the opposite

[feral geyser]

Uhhhh

[void cliff]

Infinite height on vertical conveyors if you’re connecting two holes

[ashen mauve]

when i build a converyor belt through a wall hole into floor hole and rotate it, it doesnt build it the way it was rotated. just defaults back to defualt rotation.

[placid stirrup]

I also have no clue what bug this is

[cunning siren]

If lift floor hole is used one can extend the lift without end

[feral geyser]

Can you send a clip maybe? I'm trying to imagine that but can't

[dense violet]

you can just clip through the various holes. they are basically just decorations

[placid stirrup]

That's a feature

[dense violet]

exploit

[cunning siren]

Ok, what is the bug?

[placid stirrup]

Not sure, I just got here

Should I buy Satisfactory?

[ashen mauve]

the lift hologram is facing to the left. you build it its now facing to the right.

[placid stirrup]

Consistently?!

[dim flint]

How do I make blueprints autoconnect into splitters/mergers?

[spice patio]

Currently you don't.
Needs belt stubs.

[hard ivy]

You don't.

[dim flint]

:(((((

[feral geyser]

The thing I'm confused about is, when you said this, it sounds like the lift is already built and you're just connecting belts to it.

[ashen mauve]

yes floor hole to floor hole is fine. its wall hole to floor hole thats the problrm.

[cunning siren]

So... it sounds like belts auto connect now with adjacent blueprints? 🤔

[spice patio]

Belt to belt, pipe to pipe, railroad to railroad.

[cunning siren]

Noice!

[hard ivy]

pretty sure belt to splitter connects, but splitter to belt doesn't

[spice patio]

And don't need to be right next to each other.

[feral geyser]

@ashen mauve send in a media channel

@ashen mauve f

What are you trying to send??

[cunning siren]

I'm glad the Dev's chose to support blueprint stuff

[white dawn]

Better yet, if you're trying to post a picture in relation to a question you have, use #1038092680493801533 . You can inline images in there, and it's generally better for asking questions anyway

[ashen mauve]

dont worry about it. it has been reported and i seen it on steam so hopefully will get fixed naxt time around.

[ashen mauve]

have a look now in screenshots you will see what i mean.

[small notch]

How do you make petroleum coke I can’t remember

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch petroleum+coke

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=petroleum+coke

[small notch]

Thanks

[sour pilot]

how long ago smoke shaders were updated?

[small notch]

Should I wait until I get the blender to do turbo fuel so I can use the alt or is it not worth it

[atomic notch]

You can make more than one turbo fuel

[dense violet]

up to you. You can use coal power until tier 7 very easily

[small notch]

Is the alt better recourse wise then the normal

[dense violet]

experiment with how you like to do things, the tiers are basically a tutorial so just learn

[dense violet]

better in what way?

[hard ivy]

I wouldn't make turbofuel at all tbh. at least for burining it for power directly

[cunning siren]

I play this game as lazy as possible 😆 I claim all the geos before building any other power

[small notch]

Is the alt more cost effective so like same materials amount needed but more fuel

[shy mulch]

I'm adding to my todo list, do a full playthrough without coal, fuel or nuclear. I will rely entirely on alien augmenters and geothermal

[dense violet]

alt recipes are options. Always trade offs. It's up to you if you want to use a recipe for the trade offs

Turbo Blend cuts out coal , but uses more oil per unit of fuel

is that good trade for you? you decide

[dense violet]

again, generally alts are trade offs. Theres very few alts that come close to being strictly 'more efficient'

and those tend to add in a lot of complexity and steps

a lot more power usage, thigns like that

[cunning siren]

The transition from bio to geo is pretty rough

[small notch]

Ok thanks

I’ll prob make normal cba to wait for blender

[shy mulch]

I've already got a phase 0 build with 1 alien augmenter and a ton of geothermal

[peak wasp]

So...teleporters...can you turn them on and off

[dense violet]

if you use like 4 nodes of coal for 64 coal gens you can get to blenders pretty easily 🙂

[shy mulch]

no, fully vanilla, these things are all possible in phase 0 if you have patience

[cunning siren]

Woh, how you get augmenter so fast?

[small notch]

I gave up on coal power tbf for some reason it just really annoyed me

[dense violet]

stop feeding items into them

[small notch]

Crash sites

[dense violet]

if yo ucan't manage coal you'll have a hellish time with turbo fuel

[small notch]

I can manage it I just don’t like having to give the gens two inputs idk why it just annoys me

[cunning siren]

And geo in phase 0? Sounds like hax to me

[shy mulch]

Nobody said anything about fast, I have over 200 hours in that save. I wanted to see how far I could get without building the space elavator. I've almost completed the MAM

[dense violet]

you ahve to have a bunch more inputs for all the other machines leading up to fuel gens?

[frail sleet]

can you really get 50 motors and 100 high speed connectors plus the build materials from crash sites?

[shy mulch]

Absolutely not. Fully vanilla and legit. What part of it do you think is impossible?

[limpid cairn]

If there’s a will there’s a way

[dense violet]

anyway gl

[limpid cairn]

Yes

[small notch]

I have enough power to get through phase 3 I just set up a bit of fuel power

[shy mulch]

Mostly from my farm of 10 lizard doggos

[cunning siren]

OH I'm guessing you rely on advanced parts from drop pod ground spawns maybe?

[small notch]

Probably I have most of that stuff just from going around the map looking for crash sites

[shy mulch]

Lizard doggos mostly

[frail sleet]

OP

[cunning siren]

Geos are unlocked in higher teirs though... so... how does phase 0 do that?

[small notch]

I lost my lizard doggo gotta try and find him

[shy mulch]

!wikisearch lizard+doggo

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=lizard+doggo

[shy mulch]

look at the list of things you can get from them

[frail sleet]

they're MAM

[cunning siren]

That IS handy

[heavy pine]

I keep thinking to myself "Ok, nuclear power is complicated, but it shouldn't be that hard." And then I look at what you have to do just to turn the uranium waste into something you can get rid of and my brain bluescreens.

[void cliff]

Thermal propulsion rocket generally considered the best item to sink?

[small notch]

Being able to get like t7 and 8 stuff is crazy tho

From a doggo

[shrewd palm]

getting to waste is the hard part, you just gotta turn the waste into plutonium rods and then sink it to deal with it if you dont want to do ficsonium

[frail sleet]

It's a lot easier with the right recipies

e.g. plutonium fuel ROD, not unit.

[shy mulch]

It's hysterical to me that people are questioning it. Why would I lie. I love playing fully vanilla, it's a personal choice that I will never use mods, or save scumming, or save editing, or even AGS. I just love seeing how extreme I can do silly things and trying to complete the MAM without building the space elavater, thus being stuck in phase 0, was a particularly interesting one to me. I've got most of my stuff from a huge collection of lizard doggos, but also a bunch from crash sites. There are a few things in MAM that are impossible in phase 0, but I can do 95% of it, you'd be surprised how much can be done with patience. As I said, I've got over 200 hours in that save

[limpid cairn]

If you don’t want to deal with nuclear energy just dip into the rocket fuel industry

It’ll just eat a quarter of your map tho

[void cliff]

I play vanilla and I recruit lizard dogs, but I don’t go out of my way to round them up. I have found some locations with like 6+ doggoes and it was really cool.

[small notch]

200 hours and at phase 0 still is crazy

Obv ur doing that challenge so I understand lol

[heavy pine]

Hmm.. yeah, I guess adding Pressure Conversion Cubes to the process does make things very complicated.

[cunning siren]

Do you "heard" the lizard doggos?

[shy mulch]

Yes I have them all locked up in a pen

[void cliff]

I’ve spent a lot of time in phase zero, too. It’s fun. I’ve spent tons of time in phase 1 and 2 also. Setting up tractors, etc. it kinda gets boring quickly before oil though

[unkempt blade]

I'll get the ones near my hub but moving them long distance is super annoying 🙁

[coarse epoch]

I specifically had a plan to name my next 2 dogs Millie and Vanillie, and the very next time I ran into any there were 2 walking around literally together, which I'd never seen before!

[void cliff]

Exploring without a jetpack is a challenge.

I just move my hub and the space elevator all the time

After a while I go exploring again and realize I started building a huge factory some place and I never finished it and forgot about it

[cunning siren]

What is the trick to moving them to the pen?

[shy mulch]

When you tame them they follow youy

[unkempt blade]

thought moving doggos isn't anywhere near the level of annoyance I had trying to move valheim tames in boats so there's that

[cunning siren]

Oh? like, forever?

[shy mulch]

Yes. But they can't climb over anything too high. So just make a square of 1m walls on a foundation and they can't escape. So you lure one in then close the wall, then go get another, repeat

[coral glacier]

If they didn't, Josh wouldn't have been able to use them to "handle" nuclear waste.

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'll usually do like a 2x2 box with glass walls and a ramp up one side I can nudge them off of

[cunning siren]

Ok, thanks. So this is how you get parts for early geos then?

[white dawn]

They also have hitpoints and are vulnerable to stuff like fall damage, so be careful with your tamed doggos. :)

[shy mulch]

yes, and loads of other stuff too, they even give you some late game items that I sink for lots of coupons

[cunning siren]

Oh coupons are not phase dependant either? Humm

[unkempt blade]

a lot of it's junk but it feels like it's worth the 15s it takes to check them now and then to speed up some of the research items

[next plover]

Every new save I think "yes, this time I'll build a beautiful factory" and then I build spaghetti instead.

[cunning siren]

What is the trick to taming the doggos, I seem to have issues doing it

[next plover]

Food?

[unkempt blade]

walk up slowly and throw a pink berry on the ground

[white dawn]

Equip paleberry, wait for doggo interest, drop it on the ground, pet doggo. :)

Helps to unequip Blade Runners if you have 'em, since fast movement will scare them away

[coral glacier]

Would that be Uranium or Plutonium for tonight ma'am?

[white dawn]

(Once they're tamed, they won't care about blade runners)

[cunning siren]

I drag the pink berry from inventory since my middle mouse does not work for drop for some reason, maybe that has somethign to do with it

[heavy pine]

I would be very amused if plutonium fuel rods generated exactly 1.21 gigawatts each.

[white dawn]

Technically, fuels have an energy value per item specified in joules rather than watts. Each NPP will generate 2.5GW of power while fuelled, regardless of rod type. (At 100%, anyway)

[next plover]

Use the trash 🗑️ to drop it?

[outer scarab]

when placing a pipeline junction, is there a button to rotate it on the z axis?

[white dawn]

Dragging from inventory should work

[hard ivy]

energy content is measured in GJ, not GW

[white dawn]

The trash icon will trash it, not drop it. :)

[outer scarab]

throwing an item out of the window drops it doesnt it?

[cunning siren]

I think the mistake I made is running away from drop location after placement

[outer scarab]

or there is a button to drop item i forget

[heavy pine]

Yeah, but the Back to the Future reference is right there!

[white dawn]

Ah, yeah, they're spooked by fast movement. :)

[cunning siren]

My assumption is that doggo wanted space

[hard ivy]

you can underclock your NPPs to 1.21 GW yourself

[white dawn]

From a mechanical consistency perspective, your proximity is allowing the doggo to associate the paleberry with yourself, hence the taming. So you've gotta be close by for that! :)

[outer scarab]

what button is flashlight?

[cunning siren]

Do I have to mod the game to get rid of the warning messages on run of the game?

[cunning siren]

G

[outer scarab]

doesnt seem to be g

[cunning siren]

Oh... check keybinds

[heavy pine]

The flashlight is B for "blind them with science"

[outer scarab]

B is flashlight

[white dawn]

There might be a mod for that, but I also believe there's a key you can hold down while starting to get them to not appear. Something weird like Alt or something (don't recall exactly though)

[cunning siren]

Maybe I rebound?

[outer scarab]

probably

[white dawn]

You should have the keybind displayed on your HUD while playing the game, in the lower right, unless you've turned that display off (assuming there's a way to turn that off)

[cunning siren]

Why are caves lit? That seems very strange now that I think about it

They should be like ultra dark

[white dawn]

Essentially just a game design decision, in the end. They'd rather have caves more easily explorable and nice to build in, should you decide to build stuff down there.

[feral geyser]

Bioluminescent mushrooms

[carmine aspen]

it would give the flashlight more of a use

[heavy pine]

New challenge; build everything underground in caves, including the Space Elevator if you can manage it.

[white dawn]

Heh, I actually already think the game is, in general, too dark (at least on my hardware) due to some lighting changes introduced in Update 8. I've taken to literally having my flashlight on all the time, even aboveground. :P

[coarse epoch]

yeah me too actually

[cunning siren]

Spiderbro's in ultra dark caves would be a nightmare 😆

[white dawn]

Yeah, I've always thought that would be a fun challenge. Obviously you'd have to allow miners/extractors outside, and any logistics infrastructure needed to get your materials underground, but IMO it could be fun

[coarse epoch]

once I actually build out my nice lighting I can turn it off while in that building, but otherwise flashlight always, which is pretty annoying actually

[heavy pine]

I can't seem to get signs to function as useful light sources, no matter which graphics settings I use.

[white dawn]

Lumen / Global Illumination is the big one, though 1.0 kind of nerfed signs-as-lights with default settings. I believe there's some INI tweaks you can do to get GI similar to how it was pre-1.0

[heavy pine]

Like if I can't see the front of the sign, it doesn't cast any light. I've tested with a narrow sign on a painted beam. If I'm behind the beam and can't see the sign, no light on the floor. Once I step around the beam and can see even a sliver of the front of the sign, it casts light on the floor.

[white dawn]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1286800668425977957 <- should be some INI tweaks in here, for folks who are interested

[heavy pine]

And yeah, I've enabled global illumination. It at least looks different, but it still doesn't light things up very well.

[feral geyser]

OOOOOHHHHHH, yes I know what you are talking about, that is indeed annoying. It happens with lifts coming out of floor holes.

[heavy pine]

I'll have to poke at that when I have time. I'm technically at work right now, so I really shouldn't be futzing with games on my personal computer.

[coarse epoch]

yeah, you might also try Taj's graphics overhaul which basically just presets a bunch of things that in theory you could tweak yourself with inis

[cunning siren]

Does anybody know if "covering factories with walls" helps with GPU usage?

[whole onyx]

GPU yes, CPU no

and unless you have a bad GPU bottleneck, you're most likely maxing out on what your CPU can do

[high blaze]

WHO else is F*cking terrified of stingers

Even the cat thing doesn’t work cuz then I can hear them from a far

[cunning siren]

I make tiny factories and my hardware is 🥔 so... GPU is where bottle neck is

[whole onyx]

fair

not sure how much its gonna help tho, but in theory it should so something

[cunning siren]

I'll try and find out

I made a slide jump and hold W macro... soooo handy

I have a reason to build walls now 🤔 😆

[coarse epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-im-doing-my-part-soldier-gif-5017129

[heavy pine]

My game may be at a point where building walls hurts performance more than it helps. I've already got way too many foundations and such in areas of the map that I'm not even actually using.

[cunning siren]

I was thinking about that, if CPU is limit then yea...

[shrewd palm]

a good 6 or so hours of trouble shooting later i think ive finally fixed this factory

[heavy pine]

See #screenshots message for the map.

[cunning siren]

Woh... what is that grid layout thing?

[hard ivy]

bro's doing city blocks in satisfactory lmao

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=cityscape

[heavy pine]

Roads. 4 foundations wide. Each intersection is 4x4 foundations, and there's 10 4x4 road sections between each one. There are four power towers in each intersection, and they connect to adjacent intersections.

And yeah, it was an attempt at a city block design, but I think I've overdone it.

[cunning siren]

OH, fancy. For people with expensive hardware and desire for pretty stuff 🤔

[sick dragon]

Should see kinstruction's factory then

[candid ingot]

Wait I asked earier but is there a point to using better convayors if your throughput per second is lower than the belt capasity?

[hard ivy]

I use the fastest belts I have available for everything

no reason not to do that

[candid ingot]

but like

I'm a bit strapped for cash rn...

[heavy pine]

Here's a shot I posted about a month ago of one of the blocks. #screenshots message

[candid ingot]

Like I'm only making 20 reinforced per minute

[cedar heron]

Please give us a volume control or turn off for the birthday music it gets annoying fast!!!! I know someone said we can turn off events but a volume control is really the appropriate answer to this as even adjusting the in game music volume does nothing!!!

[cunning siren]

Yea, T2 belts suuuuuck, push for T3 ASAP

[hard ivy]

ah, yeah, if you've only got mk1 and mk2, then it's a good idea to only use mk2 where necessary and mk1 otherwise

but from mk3 onwards, the materials are easy to automate in sufficient quatities to use the best belt everywhere

[heavy pine]

For long distances I use the fastest belts available, but I prefer to use the slowest belt that'll suffice when actually incorporating them into a facility. Not gonna have Mk.6 belts branching off my manifold if the machines are only using 10 items per minute.

[frail sleet]

mk.6 belts warm the manifold in much less time

[heavy pine]

Though I've had that bite me a time or two. My generic blueprints use Mk.1 lifts to feed in and out of each machine, but sometimes I need more throughput and forget to fix it.

[hard ivy]

I don't see a point in using anything but mk6 when available. you always use the same belt, so you can't accidentally use one that's too slow, and it's faster because you're not constantly switching belts. and you don't have to do math to figure out which one is the slowest possible one. and manifolds fill faster with faster belts

[heavy pine]

I guess once you get fast production of the items used in the belt construction it's not such a big deal. Still, it feels inefficient to use the materials for a Mk.6 where a Mk.1 would provide materials fast enough.

I'll use a Mk.6 for the spine of my manifold if I'm using enough stuff in the whole setup.

[shy mulch]

There comes a point where you make materials faster than you can use them anyway, so it becomes an irrelevant point

[heavy pine]

(I talk about not wasting material on fast belts while at the same time building an enormous road network that I may never fully use.)

So. Much. Concrete.

Going by what SCIM tells me, 68k asphalt foundations in those roads, along with another 68k concrete foundations in the floor underneath.

[cunning siren]

🤔 Cutting down foliage should help with GPU too?

[hard ivy]

it'll hurt save and load times tho. or at least it did in past versions, idk if they fixed that

[mortal ginkgo]

Would be so minimal you would feel like bruh

[cunning siren]

My builds are tiny and rely on sloopage and shards mostly so... perhaps not a big deal

If I got a "cheaper" GPU that supports frame gen without introducing lag that would solve a lot of my problems 😆

[hard ivy]

that's not a thing that exists

[rancid flume]

you arent doing frame genwith no input lag without like 80+ base fps

minimal* input lag

which you wont get off of a cheaper gpu

[cunning siren]

Ok, so it sounds like there are limitations on "lagless" frame gen?

[rancid flume]

lagless frame gen is not a thing

frame gen is actually counter intuitive

[hard ivy]

though ig every GPU supports frame gen if you just use lossless scaling

[rancid flume]

frame gen is advertised as a way to get more fps if you have low fps

only, even with 60 base fps, frame gen looks horid

[cunning siren]

Yea, I've used that before, it's not so bad once exploring is "done"

[rancid flume]

it isnt untill you have 80 base fps + that frame gen starts feeling good

[silk ocean]

It's called fake frames 😈

[rancid flume]

yerp

[hard ivy]

eh, I'm playing snowrunner at 60 base FPS due to fucky physics at higher FPS and LS it to 120. Other than UI, everything looks perfectly normal. the UI is horrid, though 🤣 At least I can turn it off when driving

[rancid flume]

itll be better

but the higher your fps is the better your frame gen looks

DO NOT use frame gen below 60 fps, it as actually disgusting

[cunning siren]

I've done it and if you mean it looks strange sometimes yea...

[rancid flume]

more so it just doesnt make it feel smoother

frame gen needs the frames to generate fake frames from in the first place

the less you have, the less context the generator has

[cunning siren]

Ok

I'm on a 55 inch TV @ 16ms so 33ms is noticeable too

[frail sleet]

Yeah, it's most powerful going e.g. 150>600 on a 540hz monitor

[rancid flume]

yah anything 100+ with frame gen actually feels wonderful im ngl

[frail sleet]

good monitors are pretty cheap now though. 200hz IPS is under $100

[cunning siren]

I would have to buy another computer for all that

and monitor

I don't play first person shooters much anymore so, it's all good

[woeful ocean]

ive got 600 rocket fuel being produced on floor 1 and it goes up to generators on floor 2, but for some reason the blenders get full of the rocket fuel output from time to time and run inefficient. any idea how to fix?

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing you shut off the fuel powered generators for a while and let the pipes max out?

[heavy pine]

How many generators are they running?

[zinc panther]

How long the anniversary event is going to last?

[woeful ocean]

i put some of them on standby to let the last ones fill up

[woeful ocean]

60

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/557603412565426196/1415321268378538024

[heavy pine]

All of them overclocked then?

[zinc panther]

Is it just the decoration hub? Or is it like Ficsmas where you unlock things?

[silk ocean]

ChatGPT said:

The Satisfactory 1.0 anniversary event lasts for 2 weeks, from 10th September until 24th September.```

[leaden turret]

why are you asking chat gpt for something that's in #announcements / #patch-notes

[silk ocean]

Good question xD

[heavy pine]

Why are you asking ChatGPT for anything?

[silk ocean]

Also a good question XD

[hard ivy]

I was about to type the exact same message lmao

[silk ocean]

xD

ChatGPT said:

Good question 🙂 — if you’re already in the #announcements or #patch-notes channels, you’ll usually see that info right away.

The difference is:

In Discord, you have to check those channels manually (and scroll past other posts).

With me, you can just ask in natural language and get the exact piece of info, plus context if you want.

I can also summarize, cross-check, or explain things (e.g., “what changed compared to last year’s event?” or “how does this mechanic work?”), instead of you having to parse patch notes line by line.

Do you want me to keep answers to stuff like that super short (just the raw fact), since you already follow patch notes?```

[placid stirrup]

Why are you asking ChatGPT everything people are asking you in #satisfactory ?

[silk ocean]

Not sure tbh, the tab just happened to be open in Chrome xD

[placid stirrup]

(you were supposed to ask ChatGPT that as well and share the response)

[shut fractal]

why all developer games start with such a welcoming tutorial and make everything so simple until ur mid and they just say now ur on ur own.

Not all devs but this in specific one i'm talking about coffee

[shy mulch]

there's a fairly straight learning curve here, I think it's been excellently set up. Every phase you have one new major thing to learn

[silk ocean]

ChatGPT said:

Haha fair point 😅

In #satisfactory, you’d probably get:

5 memes,

3 “LIMES???” replies,

and maybe one person actually answering your question.

Here, you skip the chaos and get the answer right away 😎```

[stark summit]

This is a very standard way of devving. Guide player in beginning then remove the leash and turn you loose to play the game how you want.

[silk ocean]

5 memes? xD

[stark summit]

also, things ramping up in complication is i think standard for this kind of game, too?

[shut fractal]

your right but i feel it became to complicated at mid game even after my 200h playthrough

this game is very fun i wanna keep playing but i cant

[shy mulch]

what did you find complicated? it doesn't really add a lot

[coarse epoch]

one thing I like about this game is that it mirrors real life large projects, like doing a startup. If you figure out how to navigate the complexity mid game, it's a legit life lesson

[shut fractal]

the trains was like okay part i can handle it but then the other ores and the nuclear power plant came up

[shy mulch]

just take each thing 1 step at a time

[white dawn]

The game has a few points at which it can feel pretty overwhelming. Not everyone's gonna want to push through those parts! As mentioned, taking it one step at a time is the way to go, generally. But it's also okay if the game's eventually just Not For You.

In the end the game's got a pretty particular niche, and if your gaming predelictions don't fit well in that niche, then it might not feel like a good fit

It's possible that tweaking some things in Advanced Game Settings could improve your user experience

Like if you're stressing out over power, you can always just turn on the "no power needed" option, etc

(That or mods, of course)

Though in the end it's up to you if you want to continue interacting with the game or not. 200hrs of enjoyment is awfully good for a game, even if you didn't finish it. And there's other games out there. :)

[crisp barn]

What if the real Doug are the friends we made along the way.

Sincerely,
-Doug

[shut fractal]

the start was very thrilling and great loved everything and still had fun with friends. 10/10 but def gets complicated at the end. For me atleast

[sturdy fulcrum]

reminder that a speedrunner completed satisfactory phase 0-5 in 7 hours

[white dawn]

If it is just the complexity that's getting to you, taking the "1 step at a time" advice may help. Like you've got a big ol' production line, but you can just make it a bit at a time. You need x/min Modular Frames, so you make that. Then you need to make those into y/min HMF, so you make that.

[crisp barn]

I mean, isnt that a thing with basically all automation games?

[white dawn]

One little bit at a time, and eventually you're at the stage where you're completing the final product in that whole chain

Even if you're constructing it all at the same physical site, it can be little sub-factories and just combine at the end, etc.

[desert bridge]

its no where near effecient but you could just make each factory seperate too so you know whats were instead of jamming it all together

[white dawn]

A lot of my Phase4/Phase5 part factories end up being awfully small 'cause I'm carting in like 3-4 penultimate resources from the subfactories which made them

[shut fractal]

I love their games and i played valheim and galactic and satisfactory is like one of my favorite games now. Definitely wont have nightmares on getting 100% efficency on the screws or whatever it is I had struggles with sometimes.

[solar chasm]

Hello guys, this only english chat?

[shut fractal]

I played factorio and it was already hard at the start :D

I had just overflow of things like thousands of stuff going in my storages that i didn't know how to manage so I restarted my gameplay and second time it was same struggle

[mortal ginkgo]

About Nuclear, best thing about it is, do it small. You dont need to use all Uranium at once.

Plot Fuel Rods can be sinked to get rid of Uranium Waste too which is the easiest step to feel comfy.

Shit, doggos and my mom hits the fan when you want to deal with plutonium sink.

Funny enough, pluto waste is extremely small compared to uranium sink. You can make a storage depot of for that for like 10k hours of game time in far away lands 😛

[stark summit]

Nuclear is the most complicated thing in the game, so don't feel bad.

[shut fractal]

this might be the first game i actually used calculator in ngl

[stark summit]

You can also skip it.

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont like recommending "skip".

Like, Nuclear is fun and chungus to see.

[cunning siren]

All geo, runs are a thing. Underclock and sloop when making pasta 4 teh win

[stark summit]

It is fun

[mortal ginkgo]

I ironically recommend skipping spamming 3540123918239018203981290 fuel generators

Because for some reason 90% of the playerbase thinks its fun and be the 3940583049853490th screenshot spammer of it

Yeah come at me bros

[stark summit]

Nuclear through ficsonium is what i personally consider as final game challenge.

[shut fractal]

i remember it took me 6 hours to set up some fuel generators because i wasnt using my brain

[mortal ginkgo]

you need a pipe, a sink for byproducts, and fuel that goes to fuel gen 😄

[shut fractal]

for the first time i unlocked them i don't know how it took that long

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="fuel+plant"+AND+repetition

[shut fractal]

idk but y'all but i kept my satisactory music on all the time and it's traumatized me and i hear it in my sleep

[mortal ginkgo]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

[shut fractal]

the sounds of machines automating stuff is so traumatizing

[rustic hare]

now stand next to a slooped machine for 8 hrs on max volume

[mortal ginkgo]

What makes me traumatized is the ambient sound in dark caves... This game needs horror tag.

[silk ocean]

SLOOP IT™ (fix it later xD)

[shut fractal]

I have goosebumps whenever I hear a spider or if its a big spider I scream as loud as possible because its so scary and my neighbors thinking I'm murdering somebody cause they came one night I was scared asf cause it was 3 am

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes, forgot the pure alien sound the machines make

[rustic hare]

I need coated concrete walls please

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

I got jumpscared while trying to look up via camera.

This "little" fella was staring directly at me with the aura of "Don't try it lil bro, you only got standard rebar gun".

I was like, "... you got a point."

[rustic hare]

I know I can get this done by spamming big metal pillars on a diagonal, but it'd be much nicer if I could have a coated concrete wall #design-and-architecture message

[silk ocean]

ChatGPT said:

Yep — if a creature’s aggro’d nearby and you swing the camera up, it can lunge into view and give you a mini jumpscare.```

[shut fractal]

whenever theres a sloop or a rare item I take it but when I hear a spider I just run but that was then. now I can just explode them

[mortal ginkgo]

😄 what scared me most was that I was not positioning the camera to make him look like looking at me.

I simply went up and he was already looking at me by pure chance. And I got the scare.

[silk ocean]

It seems terrifying xD

[rustic hare]

I remember seeing my bro play, he got locked on by a tier 2 spider, and that shit chased him up a cliff, killed him on the spot while he frantically ran with his measly normal fuel jetpack
was it fun for him? No
for me? Yes, laughing on his panic and pain was worth it

[silk ocean]

ChatGPT said:

Solid 9/10 — creepy sounds, low visibility, and those freaking spiders.```

[void cliff]

The xeno basher is actually pretty good against the little spiders, but hard to beat explosive rebar for them

[white dawn]

(Could we, like, keep the random ChatGPT quotes to #off-topic-general or something?)

[silk ocean]

Sorry xD

No more ChatGPT, got it xD

[rustic hare]

your sanity went so low due to my shift lock shennanigans that you are now on AI assist?

[silk ocean]

My brain migrated to an LLM xD

[abstract heron]

I have 17k hrs total

[rustic hare]

damn...

[abstract heron]

17,024 hrs

[cunning siren]

Smart splitters seem... glitchy sometimes? 🤔

[silk ocean]

Whoa XD

[abstract heron]

With bweteen 4 to 15hr days o

[silk ocean]

1412.2 hours xD

17 thousand.. that's impressive

[coarse epoch]

how?

[cunning siren]

I'm not sure, when I use middle mouse button to select an already programed one it ceases to function at all?

[frail sleet]

cluster nobelisks

[cunning siren]

It was from an older schematic so maybe that is part of it?

[rustic hare]

oh yeah the sampling function doesn't copy it's settings most of the time I find

just ctrl + C then ctrl + V and you should be good

[coarse epoch]

I can't figure out how to use these. I normally try to throw them AT the thing I want gone, but there is no center explosion so they miss more than half the time?

[void cliff]

Seemed like Ctrl c and v wasn’t copying machine output percentage when I used it last night

[rustic hare]

nuke nobs will be your friend then

[silk ocean]

Are you from alpha centauri out of interest xD

[rustic hare]

it did for me, assuming you had the shards in your inv, it doesn't take from the depot for some reason

[cunning siren]

10,800 liquid biofuel should be enough to get me to rocket fuel 🤔

[silk ocean]

Don't tell KYO xD

[hard ivy]

why?

[silk ocean]

You're not a Rocket Fuel fan xD

[frail sleet]

There is a center explosion, but yes the damage is kind of in a bullseye pattern

if in doubt, throw throw throw and then detonate.

[void cliff]

rocket fuel with nitro rocket fuel is kinda too easy, ngl

[hard ivy]

I'm not a fan of how OP it is

[silk ocean]

It is a bit OP yep

[cunning siren]

Like... for power?

[hard ivy]

yes

[cunning siren]

Oh yea

90GW from 600 oil is pretty OP

[rustic hare]

1600 coal, 3200 sulfủ, 2400 nitrogen, 1200 crude oil = bam, 288GW with just 3 stages of processing

[rustic hare]

144GW* assuming you are using the rocket nitro fuel recipe and diluted fuel

[abstract heron]

Huh

[cunning siren]

Oh, is that an alt that is not from the MAM?

[rustic hare]

both are from hard drives

[cunning siren]

Oh right, but need a mam unlock to show up from hard drives

[tepid grotto]

Anyone knows how to fix the Bug with keep inventory? Its enabled but after I die I dont keep my stuff

[shy mulch]

yeah stop dying 😄

[void cliff]

hardcore mode!

[tepid grotto]

Well I just dont wanna walk like 6km back haha

[green stump]

Does anybody else get a bug where you can see trough walls?

[leaden turret]

there used to be a save file corruption issue where you'd never log back in with your previous character, anthor put a fix on scim- maybe give that a try? just upload then download your save file with no changes 🤷‍♂️

[near frost]

I just realised my birthday is the same day as the 1 year anniversary

I am sep 11 and the 1 year anniversary is 10

[silk ocean]

Can anyone help Densvenske in #dedicated-servers ? 7777 TCP and 8888 TCP is open, I have tested, 7777 UDP is probably open

[spark sky]

Okay, I finally got the template BP for my 4-high coal power plant setup done (I think). Right now it's just 4 floating floors with logistics stubs that have to be connected to the power plants once I place them, but the markers are there for where to place the power plants, and they can be placed next to each other. Once I place them and get the coal power generators put in, I will put up some beams and other things to make it look like it's an actual building, not something from Minecraft (floating islands).

[peak wasp]

...a community manager... Honestly not really impressed with that

[abstract heron]

Huh

[peak wasp]

Community managers in this day and age have some negative connotations to them

[abstract heron]

No?

[peak wasp]

I've seen lots of terrible community managers that make things worse

[abstract heron]

The game is good

[peak wasp]

Yes schedule 1 is also good but their community manager on discord is a total over aggressive prick

[leaden turret]

?

[abstract heron]

There are 2

Hiya @leaden turret

[peak wasp]

Good games don't mean good community managers all the time... All I can do is sit here and hope the new community manager is good

[rustic hare]

that came out of nowhere, what's the initiator for this?

[abstract heron]

Should I ping Jason

[shy mulch]

what is your actual concern?

[peak wasp]

The announcement of a new community manager

[abstract heron]

I love this game no matter what

[shy mulch]

why would that be a bad thing?

[leaden turret]

have you been under a rock? that was 3 months ago.

[void cliff]

I only wish I had discovered Satisfactory earlier

[abstract heron]

And now there are 2 cm

[peak wasp]

Yes I don't keep up on things

[abstract heron]

I found it on June 8 2020

[cunning siren]

Is there a "best" medical inhaler recipe?

[hard ivy]

whatever you have resources for

[shy mulch]

whatever one suits you, whatever you have most of?

[cunning siren]

So... unlock them all and do whatever

[leaden turret]

it's going to be really funny if you're referring to mikael not jason 😅

[shy mulch]

yeah why not

[peak wasp]

That the new community manager with live up to my opinion on community managers and they'll be awful... But if its been three months and I never noticed that's probably good

[void cliff]

I typically use the one that is all renewable resources. Nuts and animal protein

[abstract heron]

Jason and Mikael are good

[shy mulch]

so nothing bad has happened, you just make an assumption that something bad will happen, maybe adjust your expectations to be a bit more positive?

[peak wasp]

Lol I managed to get my discord scrolled up to here

#announcements message

[hard ivy]

ehh... idk. Mikael seems dismissive of issues he doesn't personally care about and Jason doesn't have much experience playing SF
Snutt was peak CM

[void cliff]

go look in the mirror and say something positive about yourself 🙂

[abstract heron]

Snutt does stream on twitch

[peak wasp]

In my experience that's how the game industry takes advantage of you.

[rustic hare]

having assumptions is what limits your view on the world and what you can perceive

[peak wasp]

After all I was positive on borderlands 3 and I still feel burned on that

[shy mulch]

sounds like a you problem, there are no issues here, so please avoid spreading unwarranted negativity

[abstract heron]

I love the game to destress after a long day and have my stress in game @shy mulch

and working on my factory’s

[leaden turret]

well yes, but that is tainted with randy pitchford

[shy mulch]

this is a lovely community, for the most part, obviously any community will naturally have a few exceptions

[abstract heron]

Devs do listen to issues and such

And cm are rock sold

[peak wasp]

You know what I hope for though

[cunning siren]

Snutt had some pushback on adding stuff for blueprints though right? Like with autojoin belts between blueprints and such?

[peak wasp]

You know how belts get supports automatically

Come on give our train tracks that....please

[abstract heron]

I don’t think tracks need support

[hard ivy]

that's 1.1 stuff. he's been gone long before that

[true mulch]

Who on earth twisted your expectations to make you dunk on our CMs for no reason..?

[cunning siren]

yes, perhaps related things is what I am saying

[peak wasp]

Helldivers 2 had some pretty crummy community managers a few good ones too

[hard ivy]

I don't watch dev streams often but from the few clips i've seen, I never heard Snutt say anything I found objectionable

[abstract heron]

I love the css videos and streams

They are my favourite parts of the week when they do them

[cunning siren]

Yea, from what I recall he was chill AF, I do remember one of the staff talking about how the game is similar to Minecraft in that it's a "huge accomplishment" when something massive is made and that is something they did not want to trivialize with additional blueprint stuff 🤔

[peak wasp]

Not dunk on them either...just being concerned... I don't have very positive associations with community managers anymore... But it seems these ones are good

[abstract heron]

Mikael and Jason who I don’t want to ping are great and such

Jason might be new but he is nice

[carmine aspen]

A passenger car for trains would be a new way of getting around the world

[silk ocean]

One of them is in Japan xD

[spark sky]

When you talk about a "community manager," are you talking about here on Discord, or across all platforms (like Snutt)?

[abstract heron]

🇯🇵

[silk ocean]

Amazing country xD

[true mulch]

that's their role in the company, they aren't just here on Discord

they handle all socials

[deep pier]

is it better to automate screws with using cast screws recipe or steel screws?

[hard ivy]

it's better to make 0 screws

[abstract heron]

I say don’t use screws

[spark sky]

Well, I didn't know if this Discord had it's own community managers, in addition to the company ones.

[deep pier]

don't stuff like the heavy iron plate thing need screws and stuff?

[hard ivy]

not with the right alts

[deep pier]

🙁

[hard ivy]

you can eliminate the need for screw completely

[spark sky]

I like putting square wooden pegs in round holes for the best hold.

[rustic hare]

stiched plates

[abstract heron]

Steel rotor with wire and pipe

[crisp edge]

wait a minute. i'm sitting here at my train station wondering why the belt that was fed up to my machines was running dry. resources stop flowing out of the freight storage during docking? what's the ideal solution for that, running the highest tier belt you have to an industrial storage container so that it acts as a buffer? or am i missing something?

[abstract heron]

One or 2 inputs or outputs

And how ma t trains

[deep pier]

so I get the iron wire recipe and automate that instead?

[crisp edge]

just utilizing 1 output hole. this seems to happen on all of my freight cars

[rough swift]

you will never have enough screws if you use screws in your factory, screws are devil spawn, literal depiction of evil. They give you a dopamine rush when you THINK you have enough and then you go into with draws eventually.

[abstract heron]

I am working super slowly on my factory’s for factory’s base

[rustic hare]

yes, my latest solution for my network involves loading/unloading to a container with 2 belts, and only feeding/drawing from that container with 1 or 1.5 belts to ensure stability

[dull flare]

thanks to whoever told me to use lbf for jetpack this shit is so peak

[deep pier]

jesus didn't know they were that hated

[hard ivy]

Correct. Item flow stops for 27s whenever a wagon gets loaded/unloaded.

The main fix is to use an ISC on every platform and connect it to the platform with 2 belts and then the ISC to the rest of the factory

Setting the trains to only depart when empty/full will make the pause happen as infrequently as possible, maximizing throughput.

But even with all that, you cannot get 2 full belts in/out of a single platform

[onyx owl]

withdrawal from screw production is no joke

[cunning siren]

Yea! It's good stuff! Strange as this sounds if you tap tap on the jetpack you can go higher / further than if you hold it down 🤷

[silk ocean]

I gave up trying to withdraw from screw production xD

[dull flare]

ik im just lazy

and its not rly strange when u think about it

[silk ocean]

Of which nation are you from, or continent xD or part of this world xD

I am from the United Kingdom of Failure xD

[cunning siren]

I guess not, slide jump on a belt is a nice speed boost too

[void cliff]

Anyone have Some good self imposed rules to add to a permadeath run?

• no DD
• no unsound structures
• no hypertube cannon or other exploits

[silk ocean]

Just interested because you seem like a very intelligent person

[hard ivy]

Poland, why?

[silk ocean]

Just out of interest, and that is a lovely country

Some of the most amazing holidays I have done are to Poland. Kraków was fantastic

[solid storm]

For an xbox controller, which button is the flashlight?

[silk ocean]

You seem scared of me. I only ask because of interest, nothing more xD

[leaden turret]

the ones I go with for my normal runs are:

• no chainsaw
• no plant-based biomass unless required for unlocks (use creature parts only)
• no use of foreknowledge (i.e. no making a beeline for crash sites etc.)

[hard ivy]

I was just wondering how that's related to my earlier message lol

[silk ocean]

Not related xD

[void cliff]

I like the chainsaw for clearing out plants, but i guess explosives will do the trick 🙂

[dull flare]

ik

slide jumping is generally rather fast

0 skill movement is a nice change from what im used to playing tho

[desert bridge]

@sweet light that circular window is fantastic

[silk ocean]

Poland and the UK share a deep history, we fought together in WW2 and in the darkest times. The poles are most welcome here imo. Lovely people and most welcome

[cunning siren]

I've procrastinated on making a train for hours now 😆 I guess it's time

[dull flare]

squadron 303 304 and i think 308 were almost entirely polls i believe

during ww2

sabathon ( the rock- history sweedish band) made a song about squadron 303 and the battle of brittan

[silk ocean]

Yea, we owe a lot to the poles

[dull flare]

honestly femboy land isnt even that bad

we just love to complain

[silk ocean]

Well that is British xD

Poland and other nations helped us

[leaden turret]

wondering what this conversation has to do with satisfactory

[dull flare]

poland also lost anti tank mines in an ikea

[dull flare]

wait this is satis server?

oh shit mb

[silk ocean]

Just the making of the free world xD

[dull flare]

is 236 refineries a lot?

[open viper]

Hello:3

[dull flare]

idk im just trying to make a basic fuel power plant

and some stuff on the side

[open viper]

Im still at coal

[dull flare]

idk im new to this game

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=QxsbdX8ZLPthsUAu3MlT this is by far my biggest project ever

[fluid sapphire]

kibitz isnt someone any normal player should compare themselves to

[unreal hollow]

can pipe junctions be placed vertically without them being on a pipe first?

[dull flare]

they can

nvm

[fluid sapphire]

aah, you are one of those lunatics that crams a million things into one graph

[languid field]

how do i build vertically? I just got the first tier of base building

[feral geyser]

Walls and ramps

[dull flare]

i just want to have everything in 1 place

and im too lazy to do multiple graphs

[silk ocean]

I have decided that dedicated-servers are the nightmare of my life

[outer scarab]

put a computer in a sink to get a lot of tickets and buy a ladder

[feral geyser]

Eventually, you can buy elevators, catwalks, ladders, etc in the AWESOME shop

[outer scarab]

you can get a ton of tickets early game by picking them up by crash sites

[feral geyser]

Or by bullying wildlife

[languid field]

I unlocked logistics firstly but it just seems inefficient

[outer scarab]

Also you will probably never need to build vertically that early, just saying

[languid field]

maybe not ineffienct

just not organized lol

[outer scarab]

once you get Mk3 belts and Mk2 drills you will rebuild your base anyway

I would spend hours building beautiful coal plants and then they would be useless because I would unlock oil almost right away

[cunning siren]

Pasta ez-mode = underclock + slooped

If low on power

Build 3x and under clock to 33%

[hard ivy]

that's only 30% less power consumption that 1@100%

[cunning siren]

yes but with 3x times the sloopage...

[hard ivy]

that's 12 sloops instead of 4 for the same result

[tall ivy]

How does one turn off the hub music?

[outer scarab]

audio

[cunning siren]

With 30% less power is what you are saying? Yea I guess that is not a lot if the math is correct

[fluid sapphire]

different strokes i guess, literally the most complex graph i have is modular frames xd

or maybe plastic and rubber, its similar but with a loopback

too many unnecessary features for my taste

all i need is numbers and graph, i dont need layout planning built in

[shy mulch]

I thought I read something saying you don't take damage outside the map boundaries if you are inside a vehicle. Just tested it and you definitely do

[fluid sapphire]

sftools saves to browser cache, in practical terms i dont see much difference

[shrewd palm]

i like modeler but it doesnt really like loops unfortunately

[hard ivy]

pretty sure that's written on the wiki

[shrewd palm]

and with large factories it gets really slow

[hard ivy]

you can fix both of those things with manual mode

[shy mulch]

where?

[hard ivy]

but then it need way more babysitting

[fluid sapphire]

eww, manual labor

[shrewd palm]

it also doesnt optimize like sftools does

[hard ivy]

I meant that it says that you don't take damage in vehicles
and it's either on the damage, health, or world pages I think

[rustic hare]

sf modeler on steam?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[hard ivy]

yeah, https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#World_border

[shrewd palm]

sometimes it works fine but then other times it nukes the factory

[rustic hare]

I've had loops working fine by integrating priority mergers and splitters

[shy mulch]

Ooh good find. There you go then. I was in an explorer and took damage from leaving the boundary. So maybe that has been changed since the wiki was written?

[shrewd palm]

ive used modeler for basicaly everything in this save except for the phase 5 stuff

that just gets too complicated for it i think, and not being able to optimize really hurts with that stuff

[rustic hare]

yeah I use the modeller to remind me which factory producing what, and at what rates, distributing to where, basically modelling the logistic chain of my actual world

[hard ivy]

the wiki page links 2 reddit posts as sources, and both use a train. maybe it doesn't work with the explorer

[shy mulch]

aha ok, who's the wiki updater dude, probably needs double checked

[fluid sapphire]

anyone have a 3:4 or 3:8 balancer blueprint that isnt clipping like crazy or hidden in a box?

the trial and error involved in making one is making me not want to start the game xd

[clear oxide]

question how do you install the mods off of the interactive map site ?

[shrewd palm]

it would probably be too big to fit in a blueprint without clipping lmao

[fluid sapphire]

surely a 3 to 4 would fit

[shy mulch]

as in 3 inputs going to 8 outputs? when I need to do weird numbers like that I've taken to using vertical manifolds

[shrewd palm]

download satisfactory mod manager, then you can get whatever mods you want without any trouble

[rustic hare]

actually 3x4 isn't that big, used to have one that was only 3-4 foundations wide, plot twist being I deleted it without blueprinting it

[fluid sapphire]

i tried, but its uggggggghhhhhhhhh

[shy mulch]

doing 8:3 would be very easy, but other way round making the outputs even would be a bit of a pest tbh

[hard ivy]

I normally build balancers on demand, but I don't take no-clipping comissions lmao
here's a diagram tho: https://i.imgur.com/jnmxt72.png

[rustic hare]

sorry man, wish I could have thrown you the bp, if I had it..., it was a 6:8 balancer, non-clipping too

[fluid sapphire]

i have the diagram open, i am just having an aneurysm trying to think of a way to make it look OK and not clip

[hard ivy]

there's no difference between n:m and m:n balancer in terms of layout. the splitters are just swapped with mergers and all belts reversed

[shy mulch]

there is if you use a manifold input

[hard ivy]

then that's not a balancer

[fluid sapphire]

i would run a manifold but 2x mk5 belts unfortunately dont have the capacity for 1800 total 😢

[shy mulch]

balancer on the output, manifold on the input, it works, perfectly even outputs is what you get, is that not the point of a balancer?

[topaz shale]

I'll just split the manifold into 2 to then be able to support that kind of input in all machines.

[hard ivy]

a proper balancer has balanced inputs and outputs

[past robin]

how do you get out of the train

[shy mulch]

what difference does it make balancing the inputs? what does that even mean?

[rustic hare]

clearest picture I could get of the balancer, hope you can recreate something out of it
#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

it pulls from all inputs equally. needed for unloading a train set to depart when empty/full

[fluid sapphire]

having a hard time deciphering that xd

[fluid sapphire]

not sure i follow

[shy mulch]

trains behave like manifolds though, you don't need to balance it, it will work outself out eventually

[hard ivy]

you need all the platforms to be loaded/unloaded equally if the train is set to depart when empty/full

[fluid sapphire]

i actually seem to be having trouble on the loading end of things

[rustic hare]

this is the spread out version that I haven't done compacting work on, it'll work the same, but just way bigger than the final version

#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

then don't set it to depart when empty/full, seems like adding complication for no benefit to me

[hard ivy]

you can't get the max throughput without it
plus not using it causes extra traffic

[topaz shale]

Instead of having one continuous manifold, without changing machine and splitter placements, simply run another belt input into the middle of the manifold basically having 2 seperate manifolds feeding its own set of machines.

Just 2 manifolds instead of 1, if you need higher belt throughput without needing exceedingly faster belts

[shy mulch]

anyway I'll leave it there my answer doesn't satisfy you so will leave it for someone else's solution 🙂

[rustic hare]

less trains on your network, and higher throughput, because you are commanding the trains to use 100% of their capacity

[past robin]

how tf do you leave a train

[hard ivy]

the same way you got in?

[fluid sapphire]

this is actually for loading coal into train containers, then train platforms, i had it set up like that initially, but it seemed that at some point some of my coal was getting sinked and the system fell behind, idk

[past robin]

why does it say mouse 5 to leave 😭

[fluid sapphire]

like i have 3x600, i had 1x600 each loading into 4 platforms, and then the third one was loading into all of them

[topaz shale]

Then yeah in that specific situation, don't think my solution will help lol.

[hard ivy]

tf did you do to your keybinds?

[shy mulch]

when you're in a train there is literally a bunch of text on your screen telling you what shortcuts to press

[past robin]

mouse 5 is my interact key, but it was e to leave

[fluid sapphire]

i also tried a sort of injection manifold type system, that isnt working either

[rustic hare]

maybe tmr, I'll whip up a non clipping 3 to 4 for you, it's 2AM here atm lol

[hard ivy]

yeah, no, that doesn't work for trains

[fluid sapphire]

it "worked" for dozens of hours, but i noticed it started falling behind

[shy mulch]

can you elaborate what you mean by that? what were you actually doing, I'm curious

[fluid sapphire]

some silly contraption, idk, i will get a pic

[shy mulch]

hahah

[fluid sapphire]

basically i have one set set up as a regular manifold, then i inject the third one into the second one after every splitter

#screenshots message

top floor has 1x600

going across all 8

[shy mulch]

that seems complicated lol

what problem were you trying to solve

[unreal hollow]

did they ever change it so you could snap water extractors to a grid in any way?

[rustic hare]

hold it to a tall foundation/wall while holding ctrl

[fluid sapphire]

i need this station to output a total of 1800 coal per minute, but loading with a 2x4 + 1x8 setup went out of sync and some of the coal started getting sinked

like i am not even sure how it could happen

[shy mulch]

8 platforms?

[fluid sapphire]

yeah

[shy mulch]

why not just split 1800x1 = 900x2 = 450x4 = 225x8

Or if you had like 1200 and 600 inputs, adjust appropriately

[fluid sapphire]

i dont understand

[shy mulch]

what were your inputs?

[fluid sapphire]

the coal is coming from 3 pure coal nodes with mk2 miners on them

[shy mulch]

so 600, 600, 600

what's the max you can have on 1 belt?

[fluid sapphire]

mk5 belts so 780

[shy mulch]

so here's how I would have done it (this is more splitters/mergers and more complicated) but it would work 100%

[winged walrus]

how do i get mercer sphere back if i flushed it into a toilet?

[shy mulch]

for first line of 600, split into 2, then 2, then 2, so you end up with 8 outputs of whatever 600/8 is
call them outputs A1, A2, A3.... A8
then same for 2nd belt, giving you B1, B2, B3 etc
then merge A1+B1+C1 = 1st train platform
A2+B2+C2 = 2nd train platform

[unreal hollow]

not quite sure I follow, I am doing that but any time it can snap its red because its clipping with the wall or foundation

[rustic hare]

it clipping with the wall/foundation will display yellow, not red, the red is from another placement problem

[red sun]

just booted the game up to check out the hub decorations and the toilet seat cover is sending me

[deep pier]

so I wanted to make a factory but like the input is coming from 2 diffrent sides what do I use to like spread them through out all the machines while having them come from oppist side?

[trim vine]

why even flush it.....

[winged walrus]

because

why not

[trim vine]

actions, meet consequences

[deep pier]

a sewer system?

[cunning siren]

I want a toilet input in the hub

Dump all mah toxic waste

[fluid sapphire]

isnt this basically a balancer?

[shy mulch]

isn't that what you wanted?

[fluid sapphire]

yes, indeed, i just try to look any way out of building one myself 😄

i just already agonize over the placement of everything, this just seems that times 100

so many mergers and splitters

[shy mulch]

it will be 28 splitters and 8 mergers

[fluid sapphire]

😰

[dusty dragon]

@heavy pine #screenshots message i like the idea, also for railways and diagonally in addition to north-south, west-east directions

[fluid sapphire]

thats the problem, its a nightmare for me to get that to look OK with all the belts and lifts involved

[heavy pine]

The plan was to have rails above the roads. I even took the time to figure out a good roundabout intersection, but I have yet to actually set up a functional train route beyond the simple tests I've done.

[dusty dragon]

i see, the donut roundabout has been working for me, if i need to branch off i can do it on another rail, so when it splits to the right and i need to split further i split it on the rail that has already split

[prime jasper]

Any tips to deal wit nuclear tech tree? It just seems a lot more complex than what I was used to, considering the number of rare ressources spread around, the number of steps and the number of components... I will have to set up a nuclear pasta factory at some point but it is hard to find what to begin with.

[cunning siren]

Do gas filters need to be automated or is this something that can be a "one and done AFK thing" for the game 🤔

Seems like a lot of work for something that you don't need endless amounts for

[rough saffron]

did they make it so u cant save scum hard drives with the rescan, i keep getting the same stuff over and over, or am i js unlucky

[feral geyser]

If you make a storage tank full, you will be good for a long while, but they're not too hard to automate with a few spare plates, some coal, and the polyres that you're probably gonna sink anyway

[rough saffron]

oh no theres new recipies guess i was just unlucky

[feral geyser]

You probably only have a few recipes left.

[rough saffron]

i have one alternate recipie

i think theres a few more to be discovered

[feral geyser]

Ah, okay

[prime jasper]

Also you will need gas filter in order to craft iodine filter for nuclear stuff later on.

[rough saffron]

i just unlocked oil stuff and im tryna get heavy oil residue and dilouted packaged fuel

[cunning siren]

Yea, I guess I feel like being lazy right now 🤷 maybe thats a later issue

[feral geyser]

This is true, and the numbers are such that one machine making gas filters gives half of its supply to one machine making iodized filters, and they both will output equal amounts

And again, a bit of spare quickwire, a bit of spare casings, and boom, you have them both automated.

[rough saffron]

what if i scan multiple drives and save scum rescan both of them at the same time

maybe it'd be more efficient

[cunning siren]

I've got fabric automated, I may make a box of filters with sloops and call it a day for that

Well... it shows on the HUD (bottom left) how many you have every time you hit the TAB key so...

Maybe Dev's will make a "golden filter" that never runs out 😆 only 5k

[floral solar]

oh ive had that before 😭

need to try internal filters thanks for the tip

ah right

wish the chainsaw could just use petroleum fuels so i didnt need to haul a little bit of bio-nugget everywhere

is there a lore reason why the chainsaw cannot use petrol?

[fluid sapphire]

@shy mulch damn, ya'll are quick with this, Frost helped me out with a print too, absolute legend

[stray herald]

What if the programmable splitter was sort of a splitter blueprint?
You design the load balancer within it and then it turns it into a splitter that costs as much to build as the balancer. E.G Split a 60 into two 15s and one 30. I know it's a simple case but it's just an example. You build the splitters in some sort of designer and it gives you the same output but compact

Am I onto something or am I crazy?

[dull flare]

can biomass burners run on packaged lbf?

[stark summit]

nope

[shy mulch]

like this? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1415797957608865835

[dull flare]

ty

[abstract heron]

Hi @unborn gyro

[small notch]

When do I unlock t3 miners

[abstract heron]

Tier 8 I think

[small notch]

Alr thanks

[stray herald]

Yes but limit it to 1 input and 3 outputs just like the splitter is now. This way you can't cheese 1-to-2319214 balancers into a small cube

[abstract heron]

I Am not near game to check

[small notch]

Is tier 8 phase 4?

[abstract heron]

Yes

[small notch]

K

[white dawn]

It's a not-uncommon request, but the developers are extremely unlikely to add such a thing. Figuring out how to send material in the appropriate amounts (generally by just discovering manifolds) is one of the main foundations in the game

CSS are well aware that folks have asked for stuff like that, and haven't seemed interested in adding it

If you do want something like that, there's mods

[abstract heron]

there’s a mod for that

[stray herald]

I smell MANIFOLD SUPREMACY

[restive river]

Question

[abstract heron]

Also hi @white dawn

[restive river]

does anyone play super robot wars Y yet?

[abstract heron]

Answer

[white dawn]

I mean, balancers are fine too, if someone wants to build those instead. :D

[small notch]

I used to play with a ratio splitter mod but It kinda took away part of the game for me so I think it’s better without tbf

[white dawn]

Or just Using The Exact Machines To Output Exactly What The Other Thing Needs™. :)

Yeah, I honestly do think that if there was a "ratio splitter" kind of thing in the game, it'd be far more trouble than it's worth

So many more opportunities to screw yourself over by accidentally setting a number slightly wrong, when you could have just built a system which didn't need it in the first place. :)

[dull flare]

tysm

i’m trying to figure out how to jump start my 9GW fuel factory

[small notch]

Is a mk3 miner 3x better than a mark one or 2x better than a mk2

[fluid sapphire]

2x

[small notch]

Turn off everything else and shove some biomass or coal down or smth

[vale grotto]

Put down some power storages on your main grid, let your coal power charge them up for a while, then use the charge to jumpstart

[small notch]

What I did was turn half it off to jump start one half then turn the other half on with the power from the first

Makes it easier if u only gotta turn on some of it

The sulfur I found is about 1000m away from where I wanna make turbofuel would it be more effective to make a train line to and from or just a big conveyor

[cunning siren]

Any tips for building first sky train? Seems rather simple, maybe I'm missing something? 🤷

[dull flare]

ye that’s a good idea

[full yoke]

Daily reminder that the dev's of this game and its community are awesome, wish you all an amazing day and stay AWESOME!

[rustic hare]

how do I stay Anti-Waste Effort for Stress-Testing of Materials on Exoplanets

[clever merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286167237908107356/1415803803768324117/20250911165756_1.jpg?ex=68c4898b&is=68c3380b&hm=325b5ce76ba0010803416c0f6432e117cee68cbf044519654ac93b687735825c& aww happy birthday satisfactory ❤️

[full yoke]

How do you what sorry?

[rustic hare]

Anti-Waste Effort for Stress-Testing of Materials on Exoplanets

[dull flare]

i’ll probably plop down a fuel gen since i have a isc of packaged fuel

[full yoke]

Are we talking about Satisfactory? 😭

Oh wait am dumb

[rustic hare]

sorry I was messing around, this was taken from the AWESOME sink wiki 🤣
AWESOME is an acronym, which stands for "Anti-Waste Effort for Stress-Testing of Materials on Exoplanets".

[full yoke]

I just realised what you were trying to say 😭

[limber mulch]

Hi folks, I've had birthday music blasting out of the hub for 2 days now. Is there a way to shut down the party?

[full yoke]

💀

[rustic hare]

there is, in #announcements

[full yoke]

That is hilarious

[limber mulch]

Thanks 🙂

[rustic hare]

wait, it's not in there, where is it again

[small notch]

At what tier do I unlock the stuff to allow me to make rocket fuel

[full yoke]

#patch-notes message *

[rustic hare]

ahh there it is

[white dawn]

Tier 8, I think (or late Tier 7)

[rustic hare]

one where you get the well pressurizer

[full yoke]

Gonna go eep, nice talking to yall

[small notch]

Alr so that means if I grind through phase 3 I could just skip burning turbofuel and go straight to rocket

[limber mulch]

@rustic hare I didn't see how to turn off the music. Just tell me please?

[rustic hare]

they mentioned it here, it's a setting you can toggle
#satisfactory message

[rustic hare]

yeah, well pressurizer is in tier 8, I went from normal fuel right to rocket

[white dawn]

Honestly burning Turbofuel for power is pretty niche, anyway. If you're willing to go hard-drive hunting and search for Heavy Oil Residue and Diluted Fuel (packaged or otherwise), you'll generally be much better off with that

[cunning siren]

What is the trick to vertical hypertube cannons? Maybe wall attachments?

[rustic hare]

make sure to get diluted fuel, heavy oil residue, and rocket nitro fuel alt recipes once you got the blender, huge help for rocket fuel

[white dawn]

I'm less down on Turbofuel-as-power than most, but I'd still only consider it "good" if you happen to have sulfur+coal+oil right nearby, and there's only a few places on the map which do that (and, of course, if you've decided you won't want that sulfur for anything else later)

[small notch]

Yeah I have all the important fuel alt like oil residue and packaged diluted just gotta get the rocket fuel ones when I unlock it

I’m hate drive hunting tbh

[rough saffron]

i made a hypertube line all the way from rocky desert to blue crater lake right after unlocking phase 2 i wanna use it for power what should i do

[mystic oriole]

just buy them

[small notch]

Buy?

[rustic hare]

get the blender diluted one, it's going to be a 1-1 ratio to your rocket fuel plant, much neater looking setup, and you get to skip the canister loop

[rustic hare]

100 tickets, in the shop

[wooden tide]

is there some kind of tool where I can plug in my .sav to see the total ore I extract, stuff like that ? I know we can kind of see taht with scim but we still need to calc the quality of the ore depot, the power shard and miner level

[small notch]

Dam 100 is a lot

[shrewd palm]

cant transfer power through hypertubes, you'll have to use power poles/towers

[white dawn]

Yeah, if you've already got HOR+PDF, just set up a Diluted Fuel power plant; that'll give you more power than turbofuel anyway (unless you also put turbofuel on top of that, but that way lies madness. :)

[rough saffron]

i already put power poles along the foundation too

i have a cannon on each end so it takes me about 20s to get from either side to the other

[small notch]

Isn’t diluted packaged fuel better than normal diluted fuel I thought

[rustic hare]

it's the same ratio of conversion, just different machines

[shrewd palm]

one thing important about hypertubes is that you can launch yourself from them (building a giant tube from point a to b is the worst way to use them for long distance travel)

[white dawn]

It's the exact same material ratios either way. The Blender version technically takes a bit less power, so by that metric it's a bit better

[small notch]

Right so normal diluted better ok

[shrewd palm]

do you mean using the blue crater for power?

[rough saffron]

yes

[white dawn]

(And obvs the Blender version just requires you to set down a single machine, instead of a closed diluted-packaged-fuel loop blueprint)

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[white dawn]

But if you're in Phase 3 and all you have is the Packaged version; Packaged is great regardless.

[small notch]

Just gotta get to phase 4 I can prob do that with the stuff I have now so it shouldn’t take long

[rough saffron]

FYI i just got phase 2 and im scraping by with not much stuff automated

[shrewd palm]

you can use fuel generators and burn regular fuel, turbofuel, or rocket fuel, but i dont think you have rocket fuel unlocked quite yet

[white dawn]

Just remember you can create that closed loop with 2x Packager + 1x Refinery, and even include the Empty Canisters inside the machine buffer in the blueprint. That'll give you a little mini-Blender blueprint which can be put down just as easily. The only difference is that at 100% clocking, the Packaged version will give you 60/min Fuel as opposed to the Blender's 100/min, so you need more of them.

[rustic hare]

agree, moved from packaged to blender for my rocket fuel transition

without blender all you got is PDF

[shrewd palm]

turbofuel will burn slower than fuel, and you should have all the coal/sulphur you need for it in that biome

[small notch]

Synthetic power shards are t9 right?

[rough saffron]

yeah i wanted to go there for turbofuel but im not sure what rates to go for

[dull flare]

is burning fuel in generators considered wasteful?

[rough saffron]

i did some save scumming and i got the heavy oil residue + diluted packaged fuel alts

[white dawn]

As I say, if you've got the HOR recipe and Diluted Fuel (packaged or otherwise) recipe, I'd recommend just using those instead of Turbofuel (for power, at least. As a jetpack or vehicle fuel, Turbofuel's great)

[shrewd palm]

i'd just use all the resources you can but maybe save an oil node or two for other oil stuff

[rustic hare]

the game is up to you, but personally I would say not, there's plenty of oil, and fuel on the map if you use diluted fuel

[white dawn]

(And yes, you could put Turbofuel on top of the diluted recipes, but Don't Do That. Save your fuel gen spam for Rocket Fuel, if you're going that route. :)

[rough saffron]

yeah i just need loads of power, preferabbly enough to be a stepping stone to (eventually) nuclear

[shrewd palm]

that biome has a decent amount of iron/copper so you could get computers going there

[white dawn]

Diluted on its own (well, with HOR) will get you there ezpz. :)

[rough saffron]

how much fuel/min should i aim for?

[white dawn]

Though of course, if you want to build Turbofuel, go for it. :) I've done it myself in the past

[white dawn]

How much power do you want to generate? :)

[cunning siren]

I forgot how fun hypertube cannons are

[rough saffron]

turbofuel seems interesting but i do want extra sulfur for explosives

[rustic hare]

and rocket fuel just goes ham in terms of power creation, just 2 pure nodes of oil = 288GW

[dull flare]

don’t have that alt yet but i got HOR and i turn that into fuel just don’t have enough sulphur to make everything into turbo fuel i think ill be making 750 turbo and 2000 regular

[shrewd palm]

whatever you want tbh, iirc each fuel generator is 250mw and you can check how much of each kind of fuel the generators burn on the wiki

[rough saffron]

not sure, from what i've seen other people do then probably over 10,000mw

preferabbly over 20k but idk if thats possible

[shrewd palm]

using all the resources in the bcl i think you can get like 30-40k with turbofuel, not sure what the numbers are with regular fuel tho

[rough saffron]

30-40k would be very good

[white dawn]

Sure, so that's 80 Fuel Generators (if clocked to 100%) -- each one gives you 250MW. You can build a fuel gen and click on the icon next to the input buffer to see the fuel consumption rates. Use that to know how much fuel you'd need. :)

[rough saffron]

slight problem, i haven't unlocked the fuel gen yet

so i cant really check

oh wait the wiki

[white dawn]

... to the Bat-Wiki! 🦇 🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[rough saffron]

yeah i pretty much could easily get all the oil for all that fuel and water is easy because theres a lake

iirc with fully overclocked extractors i should be able to get 1350 oil/min from the nodes nearby there

[rough saffron]

what would be the best way to handle the packaged water loop? i don't want it to back up and cause problems

[rustic hare]

fuel unpackager feed right into water packager, 1-1 ratio, no need to worry about manifolds or distribution

[white dawn]

Yeah, nice closed loops. You can fit the 2x Packager + 1x Refinery loop inside a 4x4 blueprint (obvs the 5x5 would give you a little more room to play with). You can even have the Empty Canisters right inside the input buffer, so it's a one-click mini-blender. 20 or so Empty Canisters should do

Assuming you leave them clocked at 100%, each one'll do 60/min Fuel for you

[rough saffron]

im doing 1800 fuel/min in total and i kindof want to have the water packaging and fuel making things seperate, but i could have the unpackagers right on the output of the refineries

[hard ivy]

Yeah, no, you really do not want that

[white dawn]

"closed" loops are, IMO, far easier to get working. The setup I used in my 1.0 save for my first fuel-gen array looked like this: #math-and-meta message

(That includes the water extractors + fuel gens which were placed outside the loop blueprint; the 2x packager + 1x refinery "core" is what I'd blueprinted)

[rough saffron]

mk2 pipes do 600/min right?

[rustic hare]

yes, maximum

[hard ivy]

Theoretically. Practically, depends

[rough saffron]

ah tyhat makes the numbers perfect

[white dawn]

Yep, though how well it works will depend on your build style and what exactly you're doing with them

[rough saffron]

i han have 3 groups of 10 refineries doing dilouted packaged fuel with 1 water pipe in each group

[rustic hare]

the average flow depends on your piping setup

but yes, maximum is 600

[white dawn]

Some folks get lucky and happen to have a "natural" build style for which 600/min pipes work just fine, but a lot of folks don't. :)

[rough saffron]

if i just crammed loads of water into it would it fill everything up

[white dawn]

Here's the advice I've got saved which will nearly always get you to working 600/min. IMO it's good advice even below that point, though the system is usually more forgiving before then. Note of course that people have gotten working systems while ignoring large swaths of this, and occasionally due to build styles or other vagaries you might still have problems even with all this. But IME it's nearly always "the pipes Just Work":

1. Keep the system as simple and short as possible.
2. Loop your manifolds (so: the input goes into both sides of the machines you're feeding)
3. Feed fluid from above, so gravity does part of the work for you
   4a. Avoid valves entirely (they've been improved for 1.0, so this one might not be as important, but you still don't actually need valves)
   4b. Avoid fluid buffers entirely (except as buffers for train lines, where they are rather necessary)
4. Prefill your pipes! Full pipes are happy pipes. Wait until the system's thoroughly saturated before turning machines on.
5. Place junctions before pipes. If you do snap junctions onto pipes, dismantle and rebuild the pipes afterwards.

See #screenshots message for an example of 2+3 specifically. And of course, as mentioned, the fluid simulation tends to be more forgiving as the rate goes down, so keeping your pipe systems below 600/min is another option too.

[rustic hare]

depending on your piping design again

[white dawn]

I'd highly recommend doing looped manifolds as detailed above

[rustic hare]

also yeah, looped manifold saved my aluminum plant, even though I don't really understand how it works

[rough saffron]

i already did that in my little coal power thing, should be easy to execute

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that long pipe manifolds are more likely to encounter problems than shorter ones (or at least, be more picky about the build style)

[rough saffron]

does 10 refinery long manifold count as long or short

also ty for the help

[rustic hare]

medium-long

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, in terms of 600/min finnickiness, I'd also say medium-long. :) Should be entirely doable, though

[void cliff]

got the dedicated server working, but not sure why I bother, nobody to play with hahaha....

[rustic hare]

I see alot of people interested in servers in #1201555265942724758 all the time

have you tried posting there?

[rough saffron]

my friend insisted that we use trains to transport ourself from rocky desert to blue crater and back. very glad i chose hypertubes instead

[white dawn]

Passenger rail can be a lot of fun. :)

[void cliff]

i haven't tried looking for group yet, not sure if I'd enjoy playing with randoms because it would only be for a short period at a time, generally. I'll play around with it a lot more, put the laptop on an ethernet connection before playing around with it more.

[rustic hare]

everyone doing blue crater lake fuel gen while I do spire coast

[void cliff]

I kind of hate blue crater now after doing it on my last save. gold coast or spire coast are awesome

[rustic hare]

I just did spire coast cause I spawned in rocky deserts

[cunning siren]

Did infinite lift floor hole "bug" get fixed? Or maybe I'm doing it wrong 🤔

[regal lantern]

Can any satisfactory tools easily help me to figure out what path a conveyer takes?

I've got 48 conveyers which may or may not be a single loop or a bunch of different loops, I can't tell and I'm too lazy to follow them all at the moment

Considering the splits/merges, it's hard to work out where everything might go and I'm too impatient at the moment to wait for it all to flow through

[white dawn]

Did you mean SCIM? Satisfactory Tools is just a solver; it doesn't really deal in belts and such

[regal lantern]

SCIM isn't ideal for what I'm after, it's a lot of long belts

Or at least, I've not found a way to get SCIM to give me what I'm after

It may just be too complex for SCIM to give me anything tbh, there's a lot of belts and lots of crossing over by the looks

[white dawn]

I don't think that Satisfactory Tools is ideal for what you're after, either, since it doesn't actually know anything about belts and such. :)

Oh, oh, I see where the confusion is

"satisfactorytools.com" is a site which hosts some calculators and such; I thought you meant that in particular

[regal lantern]

I didn't mean Satisfactory Tools specifically, just anything else that can help visualise stuff

[white dawn]

When you were just looking for "any random tool."

[regal lantern]

Yeah, I choose my words poorly

[white dawn]

Yeah, gotcha. Reading is hard, sorry. :D

Heh, I could've employed better powers of comprehension too. All good. :D

Anyway, yeah, I'm not aware of anything, but maybe someone else is. :)

[regal lantern]

I might just have to wait for containers to feed in enough to see if there's a closed loop that won't get anything

I have no idea how long all the belts add up to be lol

[tame marlin]

i made hyper tubes and my power died how much do they spend

[white dawn]

10MW per entrance, though I think they only do a full draw when you're in the tube?

Or when you go through the tube? I assume they probably draw 0.1MW when "idle," like other machines, though I don't know that for sure

[tame marlin]

ye it was a problem with my energy

[cunning siren]

Can not use hypertube cannons to join infinite lift height floor hole bug 😭, I have to use a ladder cuz no rocket fuel. 3x 262m high lifts won't lift themselves 🤷

[regal lantern]

I've spent half an hour watching my contraption work and there's something moving on each belt, although some are slower

So there's one big loop by the looks

Although I can't guarantee it's also not a series of smaller loops that eventually spit something into a big loop

[rustic hare]

may I ask why is it a problem in the first place? 😅

[regal lantern]

It's a closed system of packagers and water

[rustic hare]

oh.. yeah that gets complicated quickly depending on the scale and belt design

[regal lantern]

I have 24 belts in each direction, they get split 4 ways each to feed into packagers for 300/m each. The splitting may be crossed over. The containers then get merged in many ways to feed back into it all

[rustic hare]

wish you the best of luck

[regal lantern]

I think it's fine, gonna be fun seeing it all broken in 100 hours and need to work out why

[undone kestrel]

Diluted fuel?

[regal lantern]

Water for coal power

256 coal power plants, all overclocked

[undone kestrel]

That seems a little excessive lol

[regal lantern]

It's a fun challenge and a good way to introduce a little chaos

[rustic hare]

here lmao, mk6 belts and all
#screenshots message

[regal lantern]

Also lets me attack the sea like Caligula ordered

[undone kestrel]

At least it's not someone in phase 2 build their coal plant for the rest of the game

[rigid mist]

this game is actually kinda unstable

[undone kestrel]

In what way?

[rustic hare]

ngl I had that mentality in phase 2 "shit I'm making like, thousands of MW, this should last quite a while"

[rigid mist]

crashes at least once a day (1-2 times every 5 ish hours)

[undone kestrel]

Sounds like your pc is the problem

[rigid mist]

sometimes it freezes then crashes other times it just entirely stops

[rigid mist]

doubt it

[undone kestrel]

I've not had a crash in months 🤷‍♂️

[rigid mist]

could be proton

[rustic hare]

if ficsit can tell me "you've been playing for 12hrs" I don't think the game is unstable

[regal lantern]

#screenshots message

These two hopefully demonstrate some of the chaos

There's a lot of crossing over

[undone kestrel]

CSS definitely would not have released to game out of EA a year ago if it had stability issues as bad as that

[rustic hare]

the scale of that horizontal to vertical belt setup, magnificent 🔥

[rigid mist]

it's probably linux compat issues actually

[regal lantern]

I really like doing it with curved belts, looks amazing

[rustic hare]

and COAL POWER in all caps lmao

[undone kestrel]

Think the max I ever did was 36 on 2.5x overclock but that was way back in like U6

[regal lantern]

The marker is my old coalpower setups, I need to remove them now

Back when I built stuff on ground level

[rustic hare]

now I gotta decipher my old belt balancer that I forgot to blueprint

can I give my past self a middle finger

[undone kestrel]

I need to dismantle my old coal plants, won't take long I only had 2400 MW

[regal lantern]

I decided to scale my old coal, just as a backup for my nukes should the janky setup I have break in a few hundred hours

[covert sphinx]

wait, how much power is this producing

[regal lantern]

Rather than having to start it all slowly

[regal lantern]

The coal plants?

[covert sphinx]

ye

I was talking to the guy above

[regal lantern]

256 would be 48000mw

When it gets to capacity

[covert sphinx]

bro that’s more than my nuclear setup 💔

[undone kestrel]

That's almost 10k coal/min right?

[regal lantern]

9600 coal/m yeah

[undone kestrel]

tbf that's only like half the normal nodes

[regal lantern]

I'm using 4 pure, 8 normal I think

[undone kestrel]

You should make it 512 instead

[rustic hare]

we need MORE coal power

[covert sphinx]

MORE POLLUTION

[rustic hare]

new power meta

coal vs rocket fuel vs nuclear lol

[regal lantern]

256 took long enough and cost me some sanity, I don't know if doing it again should be my next project

[undone kestrel]

I like how ADA mentions just how bad coal power is for the environment lmao

[covert sphinx]

SCREW THE WILDLIFE

[rigid mist]

i should probably the other 61 nuclear power plants and hook up the 30 i haven't yet but i still got time

[outer scarab]

I started a new game and on row 10 of the hot keys, there is a heart animation. What's that about?

[regal lantern]

It's emotes

[outer scarab]

yah but why is it there

[rustic pier]

Hah. just got the heavy residue and coal recipie! 😄

[true mulch]

Love

[true mulch]

Coal recipe?

[stable berry]

Can someone help me ?

[rustic pier]

er i had to reboot so i think its the petro coke? or the compressed coal

[true mulch]

#1038092680493801533

[stable berry]

I posted

[rustic pier]

compact

[stable berry]

Its setings related thing just want to know if its possible

[true mulch]

People will answer there

[stable berry]

Can I turn off water quality so its more see trough or turn it off completly

[rustic pier]

so what is the factort cart good for? just curious lol

[true mulch]

What isn't it good for?

[rustic hare]

@unkempt blade will have the answer for you

[rustic pier]

I bet he will lol

[plush dawn]

is satisfactory more cpu or gpu bound

[unkempt blade]

moving stuff, extreme sports, being adorabe... they're basically the total package

[cunning siren]

Can factory cart travel in hypertube cannon? 🤔

[wise junco]

Extreme sports made me cackle

[coral glacier]

Remember: Hours don't matter, it's the end result that does.

[static bramble]

hello can someone give my an idea how to hide all the underground ? #screenshots

[cunning siren]

I fear building stuff cuz it's so hard to unbuild stuff in this game 😆