satisfactory

[coral glacier]

bill bill bill bill, bill nye the science guy

[spark sky]

Well, then, I will remove both the belt and the splitter in the BP, just to be sure.

[scarlet storm]

anyone ever have trouble with power grids saying they are connected to the main grid, when it's on it's own second grid? My power got tripped and so I went out to build a new power plant, and i connected an oil refinery and a couple fuel powered generators to my biomass burners and the power says its connected to the entire grid and just immediately gets tripped

it doesnt even make the sound its getting tripped, it still says its running but idle and doesnt say tripped on the biomass burners

[peak wasp]

So question

Should a pipe ever be maxed out flowrate wise?

[shrewd palm]

yes

however you may find they often dont want to be

[peak wasp]

Yeah

[shrewd palm]

im very tired rn but

1. are you sure that the power poles for each grid are separate
2. if so, is there enough power to get the fuel for the generators gonig

[scarlet storm]

my fucking jet pack was tripping it

unreal lol

[shrewd palm]

yeah if you have power switches the hoverpack can make things go idle

no idea why or if the devs have any intention of fixing it

[scarlet storm]

yeah just having it on my back and not using it was tripping the grid

[shrewd palm]

when you switch from a power connection that is on side A of the switch to one thats on side B (or the other way around) it makes the machines on the new grid go idle for a few seconds

and afaik its not something that restarting fixes, only delays it for a little bit

[upper gale]

The mk1 pipe is pretty safe to max out at 300. Idk about mk2 but I'd guess it's better to go slightly under 600

[carmine harbor]

uh, I put some berries in my dimensional thingy

[glad drum]

#screenshots message That's not curved! 🙁

[shrewd palm]

the spaghetti was too much

[upper gale]

Acute angle mode unlocked

[glad drum]

Why do they hate me

[carmine harbor]

if I put berries in my dimensional storage

what happens

[shrewd palm]

you can pull them out later!

[carmine harbor]

how 🤔

[spare crow]

inventory has dim storage on the left side

[shrewd palm]

however there is no way to remove tabs from the depot, even if they dont have anything in them

[shrewd palm]

usual ways of moving things around

drag and drop, shift, control

[carmine harbor]

oh, cripes, why didn't I see that

so uhm

are berries always gonna be there

[spare crow]

drag n drop em

[carmine harbor]

like did I use up a slot for stupid berries

[spare crow]

dim depot has limited slots per item but basically unlimited items

[carmine harbor]

ooh, okay, sweet

[upper gale]

Yeah each item has it's own limit, but you can have as many different items as you want

[spare crow]

very handy later when you can spare enough parts and uploaders, can just run around and build and never refill inventory

[peak wasp]

I use these pipes for coal plants

[glad drum]

#screenshots message -- GO GREEN! Use Liquid Biofuel! 😄 My Jetpack has never burned cleaner!

#screenshots message -- gotta fill up the green!

[spare crow]

lol

[languid field]

hi! Im pretty new getting into the game and was wondering if people ever play co-op? I feel like this game is pretty hard to get into with not having played something like factorio before and not being an engineer or anything lol; but the bases ive seen before look incredible and I was just interested in trying it out

[upper gale]

Yeah some people definitely do play co-op #1201555265942724758

Some people also run dedicated servers

[sour vessel]

i play with my friend on our main save, it's nice having him do the menial tasks while I work on a giant steel plant

[upper gale]

Also you actually are an engineer but you don't know it yet

[languid field]

oooh i see, engineer in training

I just was looking for some guidance I guess? what might be better? looking for groups or finding a server?

[sour vessel]

I recommend setting up a server for yourself and one or two friends, if you don't have any friends that play the game an LFG might be better

[upper gale]

I was lucky to have a friend on my very first playthrough. That must've made some things less overwhelming to learn. Yeah I'd also recommend same thing as above, friend, and if not then the lfg channel for a normal co-op

[languid field]

awh I see I see, would I lfg with the intent for long time gameplay or just to help me learn?

[sour vessel]

Whichever you see fit, also, you can use youtube for some early game guidance, or you can just go with the vibes for a while.

no matter how much ADA suggests it, not everything has to be at 100% efficiency

[upper gale]

A lot of people do give up/get bored so I would only go for a long term thing if you're hosting the world yourself. But I mean there are a few consistent players

And you'll learn either way

People do things differently so you learn different strats

[sour vessel]

e.g manifolds vs load balancers

-# manifolds ftw

[languid field]

mhmhm.. i dunno the prospect of doing all of it alone seems daunting so maybe ill give lfg a go eventually

[sour vessel]

it is quite daunting, but the payoff is so nice

lots of dopamine for completing a phase

[upper gale]

Also be aware: solo play feels like progression is extremely slow, while co-op it can be the exact opposite. Some people may rush through unlocking things

[cursive crane]

Theres a certain creative aspect of making cool things together of course.
But most of the times coop games flourish from having people doing different things, which actually results in you not learning much until you go solo and do things you didnt before.

Games like this are more exploration/experimentation games. Meant to try you, push your creativity. Which will only really happen on your own.

Which is fine if you only plan on playing with others. But the amount of times people get into coop just expecting the other person to "help them [do the bits they dont want to]" isn't really coop

[upper gale]

Lol real

[languid field]

awhh I see I see; well my intent in coop was to simply just learn preferably from other peoples experiences but if itd be better to learn solo maybe ill give it a shot then in that case!

I just feel like often times im trying to do something super far ahead of where im actually at

[upper gale]

I do like the feeling of being helpful within the world, where someone else may be relying on your factory to supply theirs

[fickle walrus]

Here you see wild clowns in a Discord server

[spark sky]

Well, after hours of work on blueprints for stacked coal plants 4-high, I have to delete the blueprints and start over, as I messed up and didn't put enough distance between the middle two floors.

[upper gale]

What the game really wants you to do is automate every item, but allows you to advance even if you don't. So then you start feeling it's effects over time

[languid field]

srsly 😭 I feel like im trying to start off with automation immediately when i dont even have the resources to do allat yet

but i also had only recently completed the tutorial before burning myself out.. so maybe itll feel more fun whenever i get back into it next time

[upper gale]

You'll get there, just need to learn a few tips

[spark sky]

I saw a video where someone tried a complete playthrough making everything by hand that they could (and hand-loading machines they had to use when something couldn't be made by hand). I wonder how that worked out.

[upper gale]

Lots of hammer sounds

[languid field]

lots of clicking...

[upper gale]

And
Staring at the screen

[spark sky]

Let's just hope he didn't hold the mouse button down for all of that (that spacebar comes in real handy).

Oh, I did the first two stages by hand, mostly, just watched videos on YouTube while waiting for the hammering to stop.

[upper gale]

Today is the game's 1 year release anniversary. Once you've built the hub check out the room inside, fun party goin on in there

[upper gale]

Dude I learned about this way too late lol

[languid field]

ohhh thats why i couldnt find the off button for the music lmfao

[languid field]

oh well glad i got to learn ahead of time

[languid field]

stuff was blowing off my ears

[spark sky]

Don't forget to buy the tape in the Awesome Shop.

[upper gale]

Yeah have to disable seasonal events in options > gameplay

[neat lantern]

It is very funny that the first birthday song on the HUB's playlist starts with air horns. So if you die during the anniversary event, the first thing you hear after respawning is just

"BEW BEW BEW BEW BEEEEEWWWWWW"

[languid field]

how do you go about playing for an extended amount of time?

like what even happens in endgame? besides awesome factory

[upper gale]

The air horn one is annoying lol but I dig the other songs

[upper gale]

They makin fun of us

[spark sky]

Endgame? There's an endgame?

I think you can just keep playing.

[neat lantern]

you either restart with a new challenge and/or a new style/method of factory building, or you create self-imposed goals for your current run (adding all resource nodes to your factory, unlocking everything in the AWESOME shop plus getting the trophies, etc.)

[spark sky]

One of my goals is to find all the lizzard doggos and put them in my kennel.

[neat lantern]

Also some easy ones:
100% achievements
100% collectibles (radar towers make this easier to track your progress)

[spark sky]

Does anyone know how many there are (doggos, that is)?

[limpid cairn]

arent there infinite ones

[spark sky]

I really wish we could do something with the birds. That menu screen shows a bird wandering around your HUB, makes it look like you're supposed to tame it, too.

[neat lantern]

No, I'm pretty sure a doggo doesn't spawn in the same place as the ones you've tamed

[languid field]

when would you know when to restart? pkodon makes it seem like there isnt actually an end game lol

[neat lantern]

well, the 'end of the game' would simply be once you've finished all 9 tiers and sent the last of the space elevator parts up

but nothing's stopping you from continuing to play after that

[spark sky]

I've lost at least one through the world (fell through a foundation and just kept going). I don't know if that one will respawn.

[cursive crane]

Few suggestions there

The milestones are basically one big tutorial for the game to unlock your full building potential, if you are ever struggling with anything refer back to either the milestones, the mam, or the awesome shop/sink.

In a game like this, its no race, do things however you want. Is there more time efficient way to do things sometimes? Sure. But you can't be expected to know it all right away.

If you ever feel overwhelmed by where your factory has gotten to, theres nothing wrong with using advanced game settings, starting a new save, or plain just picking up and starting again elsewhere on the map

Its the kind of game you can play however you want, only important thing is you enjoy it. Everything else comes later
Also, stay off the wiki, and dont look for all the answers on discord. Ive got thousands of hours across various saves, And I would give anything to be able to relive the game without prior knowledge, all those things are going to do is burn you out and spoil things you otherwise could feel very rewarded learning through experimentation and exploration.

Saying that, its perfectly fine to ask specific questions about things, just save the best parts for yourself 🙂

[upper gale]

Also ngl I found the tutorial really boring. Play how you want

[neat lantern]

I would also say, don't worry too much about doing things the 'right way' or 'best way' the first time. Due to the way the unlock system works, your factories will almost always end up outdated in some way with some new (sometimes major, sometimes minor) efficiency improvement that could be made using the new tools.

Like even ignoring everything else, your factories will basically never be in their final state until after you've unlocked Mk3 miners, and at that point you have to decide for yourself whether it's more worth reworking the old one to be twice as good, or just making a new one that's twice as good lol

[languid field]

yeah honestly I feel that; i found myself rushing through it so i could get to the juicy bits

[neat lantern]

Although you can partially future-proof stuff ahead of time if you know going in. You unlock Mk2 miners fairly early, so if you max overclock the miners in a factory with mk2 and then never overclock any of the machines of the factory (or if you do, overclock to a maximum of 125%), it's very easy to upgrade that factory later without having to change anything - you can just upgrade the miner to Mk3, double the clock rate of all machines, and then upgrade the belts as needed and you're done.

[upper gale]

They do let you skip the tutorial when you make a new save at least, checkbox for skip onboarding

[neat lantern]

imo it's worth rushing through until you at least get to coal power, and then you can slow down

[upper gale]

I forgot he's gonna have to deal with all that biomass stuffs ahh

[spark sky]

@languid field I mentioned some things that I have at Stage 2 that they thought I shouldn't yet (like Geothermal Power Plants). Finding the lizzard doggos and getting stuff from them every hour really helped, as I got things I couldn't (and can't) make yet. Those helped me research Caterium (well, that and putting portable miners on the capped caterium node to the south of me). If you find hard drives you can research alternate recipes as well, that helps you get ahead. I had geothermal before I even started using coal.

[neat lantern]

just because the longer you take pre-coal, the more time you have to spend farming biofuel, which just cycles into itself

[languid field]

yeah i did this for the most part, i just wanted the satisfaction of completeing the tutorial before going off into a new save

[upper gale]

I think you're on the right track, keep playing, either solo or co-op but it should get better as you progress

[spark sky]

Heh, I have a 3x3 biofuel plant that's just sitting there as backup. The biofuel burners on the HUB are just used to power the machines that make the biofuel.

[rose lotus]

I just found a major exploit

[dense violet]

I think you're more likely to learn more going at it alone at first. A lot of times jobs gets passed around and you'll lose out on a lot of core skills for different parts

just treat the tiers liek a tutorial

[rose lotus]

pasting machines from a blueprint preserves their recipe...regardless of whether the recipe is unlocked

eyedropper does too, including transitively

I have a line of polymer resin refineries...and I have not unlocked that recipe yet

[dense violet]

yup. but if you really want to do that just unlock advanced game settings or mod or something.

or SCIM even

[spark sky]

Yeah, I found that out when I decided to make a blueprint of my biofuel power plant and the biofuel manufacturing area below it.

[upper gale]

That's crazy never knew that one

Not gonna use it though

[spark sky]

BR

BTW, you can make a creative game and set up the BP Editors so you can experiment with designs, then save the blueprints. You'll have to copy them to your normal game's save directory, but then you can use those once you have the required materials. I did that first with the storage chests, made a custom BP that I could tile for storage of stuff I was using early in the game, complete with signs I can set to indicate what's in the box.

[upper gale]

Transfering blueprints I get that cuz what if you made a really good blueprint

You'd have to remake it exactly in the new save unless you transfer it

[spark sky]

I made a really nice doggo kennel, someone asked me to send them the BP, so I did.

@upper gale #screenshots message

Now, getting them into the kennel is the real trick.

[cursive crane]

The lil windows for them are genius

[spark sky]

They tend to sit at the windows and look out, keeps them from trying to climb out somewhere.

Believe me, I tried some other stuff with beams and such, they jumped vertically up the sets of horizontal beams and got out.

I think that the road barriers are at just the right height, and jut out just enough over the "windows" that, once they are looking out the windows, they can't see a way to jump up. Plus, it's not open up there, so what would be the point? The "windows" are actually conveyor wall holes (the walls with two holes).

[upper gale]

Pretty cool

[spark sky]

So, they tend to stay by the windows, when you want to collect their stuff, you don't have to coax them near enough to access.

I do wish the new conveyor wall holes (as well as the floor ones) would actually act like a hole instead of a black panel in a frame.

[upper gale]

Pats dog
Hey buddy whatcha got there?
Oh that's... some nice turbo motors you got there

[spark sky]

Heh.

You know, you can name the doggos, too.

I almost put signs over the windows.

[upper gale]

Ooh yeah good idea

[neat lantern]

have you tested if they work yet?

it might be there visually but still prevent you from actually crafting them

[spark sky]

Hm, I haven't tested whether the Ficsmas tree that produces gifts does so now that we're not in Ficsmas season. I don't really want to, it would spoil the look of my display.

[dense violet]

no, it works. It's just very silly when there's so many ways to break the rules that aren't so awkward

[feral geyser]

Idk if it does or not, but I have so many containers of fireworks, and idk what to do with them

[limpid cairn]

[feral geyser]

Tens of points each is not worth sinking, even if it is 16 containers.

[neat lantern]

I mean, I think it's fine because transferring blueprints between saves isn't even something that's supported in-game iirc.

If you're going into the system and/or save files to move stuff around manually, whatever weirdness occurs is on the user, not the developers

[dense violet]

are you transfering a file external to your game that's allowing you to circumvent normal progression?

[neat lantern]

I'm not doing it myself but from what I understand you have to go into the game files to copy/paste your blueprints from one save to another

[dense violet]

there you go.

Hey, I use mods myself. Just don't pretend it's not an exploit that circumvents game rules

[neat lantern]

And since Satisfactory is a non-competitive and mostly single-player game there's no reason for the devs to care about you being able to skip progression after manually fiddling with the game files lol

[dense violet]

I don't care if you do that, it's just dumb when people try to use semantics to pretend they aren't cheating.

that's the issue I ahve

[neat lantern]

I think you misunderstood my original message then - when I said "it doesn't matter" I didn't mean it in a "it's not really cheating" way, I meant it as "this isn't something the devs need to fix" way

[feral geyser]

If we're talking copying a blueprint that has recipes you haven't unlock in your game, that's cheaty, I agree

[neat lantern]

It's not something in the base game, and the lengths you have to go to in order to do it are roughly the same as going to download a cheat mod

[feral geyser]

But if I copy someone's highway blueprint that has all regular pieces and such, that's fine and not cheaty.

[neat lantern]

At that point it's out of the devs hands since you're altering game files

[prisma thicket]

Hey, about how much longer is the anniversary event going to last? I just want the music in the hub to stop T_T

[dense violet]

fair, there's jsut a lot of people who try to lie to themselves about it and that's just idiocy. I don't care if you install a mod that lets you fart out dragons that do all the work for you, just don't pretend you're not getting around set game rules

[neat lantern]

Yeah I absolutely agree with you on that. This is absolutely cheating, it is only in a way that feels slightly more vanilla lol

[dense violet]

2 weeks. Turn off events

[dense violet]

this one is even more annoying to me because there's just such simpler ways to get those recipes yo uwant to use and not make it awkward.

Just use SCIM. Or AGS. Or a million other ways.

scim will just let you tick off whatever recipes you want ot use and not lock it in to certain BPs or eyedroping things

[odd vessel]

why is my hub partying?

[dense violet]

it's party time. ADA says you must party

[odd vessel]

this is not company policy

[dense violet]

it's mandated party time. If you don't take it you're in ficsit violation

[odd vessel]

oh no

[dense violet]

You will party and you will enjoy it.

[atomic crest]

What is the velocity of a fluid in a pipe, eg how long should i take for crude oil to go from point a to point b

[dense violet]

Not super useful info. afaik it's mostly fill time that affects things. Long pipes take a long time to fill.

[atomic crest]

Its just taking a long while

[dense violet]

one of hte many reasons to use fluids near where they are made

[atomic crest]

I flushed the full pipe

[dense violet]

you might have a flow or headlift issue then.

[atomic crest]

It is just starting to arrive thankfully

[dense violet]

under clock a few machines to help it flood. then reclock thigns up when it's all full

it's a good way to trouble shoot and helps keep flow stable

[atomic crest]

Im still not getting the flow rate i should though

[hollow halo]

Psst, does anyone know how well satisfactory runs on steam deak?

[atomic crest]

The buffer should be filling up by 600 a minute but isnt even though the refineries are disconeccted

The pipe next to the buffer is full but the buffer hardly fills upo

[hollow halo]

No one knows how’s good satisfactory is on steam deck?

[grand leaf]

Is there any way to kill the big gray creatures?

[hollow halo]

Sadge

[hollow halo]

Run off the map

[grand leaf]

Dang that doesnt help me lol

[dense violet]

show overhead images in #math-and-meta

and don't use buffers

[feral geyser]

You get better weapons as you tier up

[dense violet]

going on a dogwalk in a couple min if you still wanted help

[atomic crest]

360 turbo fuel a minute needing 630 crude oil is evil

[prisma thicket]

Are you using any alt recipes? I feel like there's a more efficient recipe for TF

[upper gale]

I actually did enjoy it, smacking the pinata specifically. Made me smile

[gilded halo]

How do I play with a controller on epic games satisfactory?

[upper gale]

You can kill them with the basic weapon. It just takes a really long time

[limpid cairn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/15dthli/how_well_does_it_run_on_the_steam_deck/

(It runs well; source : ai (reddit))

[limber crag]

How many days will the anniversary vibes be available in game? A: the 24th of September

[atomic crest]

Turbo blend

Is there a channel where i can post an image for help

[prisma thicket]

Might want to look into Diluted Fuel or Diluted Packaged fuel, pretty sure that's the more efficient fuel option to then pump into your TF blenders

[atomic crest]

I have a pipe going into a juntion that is full of turbofuel, but the 2 pipes coming out of the junction are barely getting any turbofuel

[prisma thicket]

#screenshots or #1038092680493801533

[outer scarab]

you can ask here and post in screan shots or questions

[atomic crest]

Which do you think is more appropriate?

[outer scarab]

depends on what the question is

[atomic crest]

Can someone look in screenshots and help me please?

[outer scarab]

what is the question?

[atomic crest]

^

Wait not that

[atomic crest]

^ this one

[prisma thicket]

#screenshots message is that pipe feeding up or down?

[atomic crest]

Up

[outer scarab]

you need a pump

pumps lift from the point they are at not pull up

[atomic crest]

I have a pump

[prisma thicket]

there is a pump there, but need to make sure there is enough headlift going into the pipe below that pump

[atomic crest]

There is

[outer scarab]

if its not going up then there isnt

try to lower the pumps

[atomic crest]

Never mind

I forgot to ununderclock all my refs while i let them fill up with oil

[outer scarab]

:/

[atomic crest]

They still arent filled with oil either

[upper gale]

Well this guy managed to run... all this so it must be at least decent I'd guess #screenshots message

[atomic crest]

I think my calculations are also wrong

I need 2 more somersloops

[next plover]

I needed this thanks

[outer scarab]

For the most part you dont ever need a pump. You can do everything near water or the output

How is some water not deep enough? I am trying to place pumps on open water with like 20m clearance at least

[prisma thicket]

Some "water" isn't actually there. Try swimming in it, if you fall to the sea floor, the actual water isn't there

[outer scarab]

how do you blueprint a water pump?

[prisma thicket]

can't

[outer scarab]

OK so the issue is that the area i'm trying to place my pump is in a dead area of a blueprint

so thats a thing

[stone python]

you can blueprint water pumps

but you cant blueprint extractors

[outer scarab]

i ment extractor

[tribal nova]

does anyone know if its possible to make the most effiecent Nuclear set up with 100% efficency using the best Uranium Plutonium and all other recipes without burning all the SAM before uranium

[prisma thicket]

It

It's possible to make a 100% efficient Nuclear setup without using any SAM, as long as you either sink the Plutonium rods or can go all the way to Ficsonium fuel rods and burn those.

[feral geyser]

ficsonium requires ficsite which requires sam

[prisma thicket]

Oh right, my bad. The earlier steps don't require any though.

[tribal nova]

I'm tryna theory craft a setup to make use of all the uranium in a world thats 100% waste free and efficent theres a line to lower dark matter usage through time crystal buffers but that only helps before the ficsonium

[stray herald]

Can a pipe feed 54 generators in a manifold-like setup?

I have 6 blenders giving 555.555 rocket fuel

Since it's fluid I just wanna make sure

I can have am ain pipe branching out

[feral geyser]

sure, it should be able to

[stone python]

as long as you dont exceed that pipe max you can do as many as you want

[stray herald]

I got 555 fluid so it fits

[rustic hare]

yes, I got a pipe manifold feeding 143.5 gens

[tribal nova]

pipes can only feed so much at a time so it'd be best to split them up where you can to make it consistent at the end

[feral geyser]

also remember rocket fuel is a gas, so infinite headlift

[stray herald]

Oh

[feral geyser]

no need for pumps

[stray herald]

I always merge pipes to evenly distribute the liquids

[stone python]

they are well bellow the max of 600 in mk2 pipes, so theyre more than fine

[stray herald]

I am buildingon the water surface too so there isn't elevation

[rustic hare]

building gas transporting pipes feels so refreshing compared to fluid pipes

[prisma thicket]

With Rocket Fuel you might actually consider building more vertically to save you some surface area to build on later, since there's no need for pumps you can build the generator stack as tall as you want.

[feral geyser]

And save space on the water for extractors

[stone python]

if you don't build your rocket plant to the ceiling limit, are you really even gaming?

[dense violet]

why not just not burn the plutonium?

[tribal nova]

just want that 100% effciency vibes

[dense violet]

sinking the plutonium is 100% efficient. Tons of points

[outer scarab]

can someone check design and architecture pictures, need help lining up a extractor

[rustic hare]

or letting drones use it super efficient

[tribal nova]

whats the point to sink when I got just about everything out of the shop

[dense violet]

or burn it in drones

not having to make ficsonium? That's a hell of a benefit

[stone python]

to cap the tickets/min ofc

[dense violet]

it probably only got added in because fools couldn't stop themselves from burning plutonium and thne whining about it

[feral geyser]

Making ficsonium is the point, it's a challenge

[dense violet]

I mean plutonium got added in because some people wouldn't mess with nuclear set ups because of permanent waste. Plu rods gave you the choice

[rustic hare]

meanwhile I'm a pony and I don't even want to touch nuclear

[tribal nova]

I'm currently only at 600 per minute uranium to ficsonium I'd like to bring that to the 2100 per minute

[cursive totem]

Does someone have any recommendations for channels to learn/spark creativity in building? I am not good with architecture but want to learn more to spice up my factories. I do like seeing the machines and belts move, but I lack creativity to make more than "large flat foundation" and "big square box"

[rustic hare]

#design-and-architecture

[feral geyser]

Any color in particular?

[dense violet]

I don't believe there's enough sam on the map for that, soz

[rustic hare]

haven't thought of one

[dense violet]

totalxclipse is really good for general tips you can use for many things. youtube channel

[outer scarab]

youtube megabase tours to get ideas

[tribal nova]

with the best recipes no but with the okay recipes there is

[limpid cairn]

For example like this #screenshots message

[atomic crest]

I actually hate fluids, i have an oil pipe connected to 600m^3/m of crude oil, yet when i try to ill up a buffer it has taken like 3 minutes to do 600 units of oil

[rustic hare]

the verticality lmao, I thought my 8 floor gen setup is already tall

[tribal nova]

with the worst recipes you can get away with only using 3,327.29 per minute of SAM

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah, there is definitely that much available

[dense violet]

it has been pointed out to you that buffers mess with flow. I don't know what to say if you don't want to learn how to actually use them

[reef basin]

Or rather not to use them

[tribal nova]

downside is you'd only make 573 GW of power compared to the hypothetical 1,479 GW of power

[atomic crest]

Should they not just even out the periodic nature of fluids?

Like a rectifier?

[dense violet]

no. they mess with the flow.

the exact opposite

[feral geyser]

They are effectively just high capacity pipelines

[dense violet]

I offered to have a look at your set up if you provided overhead images of your pipes in #math-and-meta I'm back from the dog walking now

[atomic crest]

So how do I make my 600 oil pipeline deliver 600 oil

[dense violet]

pipes are actually very simple with only a few bits of knowledge

[dense violet]

"I offered to have a look at your set up if you provided overhead images of your pipes in ⁠math-and-meta "

[atomic crest]

I’m not on the game anymore

[dense violet]

Next time you are, ping me 🙂

[green fiber]

split it up perfectly in half and then supply each row of machines with one of those pipes

[limpid cairn]

3 rules,

• PIPES only, no valves

• build water towers for liquids

• don’t use buffers

[green fiber]

Thats one way at least

[green fiber]

2 is not a rule its optional.
Could just use pumps

[feral geyser]

Oh god, here we go with water towers again. 😭

[dense violet]

you can completely ignore water towers and it'll simplify things immensly

and it's generally simpler. And simpler = better for pipes

Out of all the weird pipe things you can do?

water towers are probably the least likely to cause issues. But ... that's not really advertisement for them

[limpid cairn]

Theyre good wdym

[dense violet]

just slap a pump on a pipe.

If you love jumping through hoops to save essentially no power? yeah go for it. But ... that's all that happens

[feral geyser]

They are fine, I just know they've started some passionate arguments in here before lol

[atomic crest]

Also can we get mk3 pipes

[dense violet]

you can't even manage mk2 pipes. How are mk3 going to help you?

[stone python]

they will never add them, they didnt like adding mk2 to begin with

[limpid cairn]

Devs arent getting paid enough to add t3 pipes

[dense violet]

running pipes at higher flows is more challenging. I can imagine mk3s might be real weird

[rustic hare]

seriously I use mk1 whenever possible now lol

[limpid cairn]

guys with a lot of phantasy we already have t3 pipes…we just have to package the liquid and transport it with belts

[dense violet]

need 2 belts to bring back the containers

[atomic crest]

Less time spent building cross map oil pipelines, procrastinating a proper train network

[limpid cairn]

how good is it working ?

[dense violet]

well, you kinda have to try to make mk1 pipes not work

[limpid cairn]

why are you building cross oil pipe lines in the first place

[rustic hare]

really well, nearly perfect

[atomic crest]

To move the oil from the south oil deposit to my base in the south east desert lol

[carmine harbor]

I'm making a train loop

https://tenor.com/view/loopring-loop-i-love-loop-no-i-love-loop-gif-25243439

[dense violet]

I mean that sounds like one of your main problems right there. Process fluids where yo uextract them

[limpid cairn]

You have trains…?

[atomic crest]

It’s for turbo fuel though

So i would need to bring sulfur and coal there

[dense violet]

and? bring the sulfur and coal to it

[atomic crest]

In retrospect that was smart

But oh well

[dense violet]

build your power stations far from your base. Keep nearby resources for parts

[limpid cairn]

get 2 trains and craft like 2 containers full off empty packages and perma package the oil and deliver it with trains

1 train delivering oil canisters to your base
1 train delivering the empty canisters back

[rustic hare]

lmao what

[harsh kayak]

I'm considering resetting and starting again from the beginning

[atomic crest]

Once I’ve properly sorted out this turbo fuel I will do proper trains to start building super computers

[dense violet]

it can help develop your skills 🙂 not for everyone though

[limpid cairn]

why not build proper trains now?

[stray herald]

Ah yes, power storage https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1415587605118058496

[rustic hare]

highly recommend don't if you don't wanna go into a loop of "welp I messed up, new save"

[stray herald]

I always feel like that especially once I reach Phase 3 or 4

[limpid cairn]

Im worried for your power system

[stray herald]

But I Was encouraged by everyone here to stick to my save

[harsh kayak]

I've reached that phase that needs modular engines

[stray herald]

I'm switching from turbo to rocket fuel, gotta have a buffer

[limpid cairn]

Im not worried about your buffer, im worried that you’re not making enough power atm…

[rustic hare]

it's phase 2 or 3 smth right, don't restart, and don't get attached to your builds, either build anew somewhere else, or tear down the old faulty build

[harsh kayak]

I just wanna start again and utilise my experience i already have to speed up my progress and be prepared for more demanding phases

[limpid cairn]

Is it your first save ?

[prisma thicket]

Restarting is how you burn out

I speak from experience

[harsh kayak]

It is

[rustic hare]

exactly

I'm still on my first save after 400+hrs

[outer scarab]

I have worked on several save games. Restarting is fine if you have a plan

[limpid cairn]

Honestly if you think you did a lot wrong then restart

[outer scarab]

Also every time there is a major update that breaks the game, you have to restart

[stray herald]

True. I turned off my turbo fuel plant (~11.5GW)

[scarlet storm]

how do you make time crystals

[rustic hare]

diamonds

[sand glacier]

Make you a rocket fuel plant

[stray herald]

In converters

[outer scarab]

if you look at the item in game it tells you how

[hollow onyx]

do people still treat phase 9 stuff as spoilers a year after 1.0 release

[stray herald]

If you have the item unlocked, press O then search for it

[harsh kayak]

I didn't use foundations till the automated wiring

[scarlet storm]

how do you unlock it? i just completed like tier 8 of the milestones and dont think i ahve that or a converter

[outer scarab]

I dont build drills until phase 2

[hollow onyx]

??????

[harsh kayak]

Bro sends children to the mines

[outer scarab]

if you throw down 10 personal drills it goes faster to just toss it all into a storage

[hollow onyx]

i guess but theres stuff you could be doing while drills mine in the background automatically

exploring doing all the early mam stuff

[rustic hare]

then you gotta unlock it in phase 5, I guess you are looking at the synthetic power shard recipe and wondering where is the time crystal?

[scarlet storm]

correct

[shy mulch]

Of course. Most peoplesking questions are not there yet. Most people don't buy games on release day

[rustic hare]

then it's in phase 5

[hollow onyx]

i treat it as spoilers i havent reached it yet but i bought the game release of update 8

[shy mulch]

That was only true in early access. Since 1.0 proper release that will never be the case

[outer scarab]

yah unless the 1.1 has something you want that redesigns everything

[scarlet storm]

gotcha. not looking forward to completing phase 4. have basically no train system and no logistics bc one drone

[outer scarab]

like elevators

[shy mulch]

That's an added feature. It won't break anything that you've done in 1.0

[rustic hare]

there's plenty of slugs and you can sloop them for double output, more than enough shards if you are conservative

[outer scarab]

right but I said "or"

[shy mulch]

You said "every time there is a major update that breaks the game you have to restart"
I said that will never happen after 1.0

[rustic hare]

definitely take your time with phase 4, it's an important phase and will set up your logistics through phase 5

[smoky forge]

agreed

[scarlet storm]

yeah i think before i even start completing it i need to get the logistics done, its just hard bc i dont even know where to start

[rustic hare]

don't push yourself too hard, burnout is real

[shy mulch]

Just take one thing at a time

[outer scarab]

"yah unless the 1.1 has something you want that redesigns everything"

[scarlet storm]

i have like 60 hours in the last week lol burnout doesn't exist

[shy mulch]

That doesn't break anything

[rustic hare]

I started with doing some blueprint for train track poles, then started laying them between 2 of my stations where I needed item, I tried trucks for them but didn't work too well, and expanded the network from there as I needed more resources like sulfur, nitrogen and coal for rocket fuel, then another section for aluminum

[outer scarab]

break or redesign

[scarlet storm]

would make the train / logistic thing so much easier to look at how someone else has everything set up or just have someone give me ideas haha

[scarlet storm]

just ran like a 2k pipe to bring nitrogen gas to me haha

[rustic hare]

since it's a gas, that's valid too 🤣

[scarlet storm]

yea just annoying tho. i have a 1 lane train that goes to like 4 stations and i feel like redoing everything with something i dont have experience with is annoying. oh well off to watch an hour long youtube video lol

[rustic hare]

definitely have a 2 lane as your main spine

[scarlet storm]

wow everything looks so neat in yours hahaha

[rustic hare]

understanding signaling and 2 lane systems help so much

[scarlet storm]

mine is messed up

do you have everything hooked up to the train system basically? or if its pretty close still how do you transport it?

[rustic hare]

I build modular factories near the resource nodes, then transport the product via train to more modular factories that need the product

[shy mulch]

2 extremely different things, one matters, the other is a design choice

[outer scarab]

and yet i restart for both

[shy mulch]

That's your choice, and that's fine. But you implied that it was necessary and it absolutely isn't. Most people don't

[stray herald]

@limpid cairn https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1415592181703512114

[rustic hare]

this dude just like to have arguments, had one with them before, it's best to ignore

[scarlet storm]

so do you have a main base where you construct lots and lots of things or really have the main production spread out? bc in my head im thinking i bring everything to the main base and do it there but idk that doesn't seem like a great idea now

[shy mulch]

Yeah fair. I will do now. Seems like he's giving very bad advice

[terse flower]

how do i mute the music from the hub?

[rustic hare]

I used to have a main base but one problem popped up as I needed to expand was that I didn't have enough space, even though I pre-planned it, the need for more item was just too much, so I realized the best solution, for me specifically was to make vertically expandable modular factories for major items like computers, heavy modular frames, and when more need arise, I just stack more floors

but ofc the way you choose to build your system depends on your needs

[subtle pulsar]

Minecraft

[stray herald]

There's an option in the settings to disable event stuff

[stray herald]

Options -> Gameplay -> 'Gameplay'

@sour vessel Did you get help for your generators?

[brave thorn]

returned to the game after a while and the falling trees sound scared me

[sour vessel]

Kinda, but it's still not 100% efficient. I'm not able to load up the save rn though. If you have any tips, I'd really appreciate it

[rustic hare]

also started on a distribution station recently, where high-capacity trains containing one type of items go sit, and distribute their resources to specialized trains for factories that require multiple items to lower the amount of running trains on my network, so there's basically only one to two train per factory
less trains, but the trains are longer and does their jobs more optimally

[brave thorn]

How long is the anniversary event gonna last? I like the floor color

Of the HUB

[shy mulch]

It tells you this in the patch notes, it says 2 weeks

[stray herald]

I see 4 refineries, this means 160 fuel per minute judging by the polymer resin
Generators need 20 fuel to run without overclocking, so 8 generators are usable.
Problem is, you have 8 generators and it's still broken.

Turn off the generators and wait for them to fill up (50 fuel) and also the pipes to fill up, basically saturate the pipes. Then turn them all on, it'll fix the issue:)

[cunning glade]

Vertical building is just better right?

[scarlet storm]

yeah i think i need to go watch like an hour long youtube video to really figure it out bc its gonna take me a long ass time to get it set back up

[shy mulch]

I should have done something like that but for aesthetic reasons I went with more stations but smaller. It's ended up absolute traffic chaos but it's fun to watch sometimes

[sour vessel]

gotcha, so just prefill the system?

[cunning glade]

Cuz with needing so many machines I should prolly build more vertical

[sterile blade]

Of course.
After all, personal preference doesn't exist, so it's objectively bestest

[stray herald]

Yup!
Basically you're getting 1 fuel into each generator as soon as it uses it, so it sometimes skips a tick of power generation

[rustic hare]

highly recommend understanding 2 lane rails and signaling, then it should be smooth sailing

[cunning glade]

And smelting a resource generally better before training it I assume

Make a small factory too smelt it then train it is my thought

[shy mulch]

2 way rails are not my preference unless for a small closed system. When scaling I'll always use a 2 lane system

[rustic hare]

refine it using the pure alt recipe if possible

[cunning glade]

The huh

I do have 5 drives I will research

[rustic hare]

oh sorry I messed up 2 way and 2 rail

[cunning glade]

I need more alt recipes

[shy mulch]

Yeahh

[zenith pecan]

Thats the thought behind the slender towers that have started appearing on my map, the smelters are stacked vertically within the miners footprint.

[rustic hare]

if the layout is repeating and nicely divisible, then I stack them vertically always

[sterile blade]

Depends on preference (yet again).
If one likes to move as little items as possible and has alt recipes aviable, moving the ores is almost always more optimal (most alt recipes yeld more ingots/min than they take ore/min)

[shy mulch]

Are you using water for smelting?

[cunning glade]

I see so I need more alt recipes

[rustic hare]

like that iron tower I did, there's 6 normal nodes nearby, each outputting 600/min, so I did 6 floors, each processing 600/min

[zenith pecan]

With the abundance of materials, no, here's a pair of the towers shown at their base, they are really tall: #screenshots message

[smoky forge]

i agree

LOL

[shy mulch]

I have trains that take a huge amount of ore to a smelting area over the sea where I have unlimited access to water for pure recipes. Makes much more ingots that way

[cunning glade]

9 more hours till borderlands 4🕺

[rustic hare]

now that's REALLY slender lmao

[cunning glade]

But I see theese gives me new ideas ty guys

[shy mulch]

How many ingots/min are you making?

[zenith pecan]

Fits within the miners footprint 😄

[sterile blade]

I try to follow their waist-print, so I get a bit more space...

[zenith pecan]

Those are burning up a pair of pures at capacity.

[cunning glade]

Also for how bad maxing mk2 pipes is they seems too keep working correctly

I like it

Super nice having one pipe with 600

[rustic hare]

take note sloshing and backflow if present, will slow down your pipe under 600

[cunning glade]

I see

I'll keep that in mind

[zenith pecan]

This quartz facility is the reason behind the pair of towers shown, it's making 450 quartz crystals, 750 silica & 60 crystal oscillators #screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Annoying part is when I have too move the 600 up

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1415597047096152096 this is how I do it. This is doing approx 16k/min copper ingots, plus a bunch of iron, and aluminum

[rustic hare]

tbh I'm setting up more logistic and distribution systems for raw resources like iron ingot more than doing actually factories I need nowadays

[zenith pecan]

My aluminium is in a single monolith on the east coast, processes all the bauxite.

[shy mulch]

I have a few older smaller bauxite factories dotted around, but this is my "final" one, it's outputting approx 2100 alu casings, 550 alclad sheets and 400 empty bottles

can't remember how much bauxite goes into it

[zenith pecan]

I really didn't want to divide ingot production all over the map so every last unit is belted via the tunnel system to this place #screenshots message , it uses sloppy alumina, electrode & pure, 12300 bauxite in, 12300 ingots out.

[shy mulch]

that's a nice way to do it 🙂

[zenith pecan]

I did the same with the SAM nodes, I collected every mine and sent it all to one location #screenshots message , the facility has been running for a bit since I created the clip.

[outer scarab]

Is there a way to spawn SS or Shards in free play mode?

[shy mulch]

I'm doing something similar but a little simpler, I'm making it into reanimated SAM at the node, then putting it on a drone. I have all the drone ports ready to receive it all and will process it from there. Much less items/min making it into reanimated first, so it makes drones feasible

[zenith pecan]

True, I considered the slender towers at source, but some of the nodes were in truly irritating positions so I just sent it all down into a tunnel that sweeps around the map to the north of the bauxite highway.

[sterile blade]

If you can't obtain them via the "give item" menu, no

[outer scarab]

whats the give item menu?

[sterile blade]

The menu you use to spawn items

[zenith pecan]

If you really want extra items, just add them using https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[outer scarab]

yah i got that wtf is it or where is it?

[sterile blade]

Did you activate advanced game settings?

[outer scarab]

yes

[sterile blade]

Then it should be in the "esc" menu once inside the game (after having loaded a savefile), somewhere

[outer scarab]

ok found it

[zenith pecan]

I forgot the advanced stuff was even a thing 🤣

Oh well, I'd best get to work, time to see what sort of staff laptop abuse ends up on my desk for repair today 😄

[shy mulch]

my work laptop had a hardware failure a couple weeks ago, cpu fan completely gave up and died, IT support tried to fix it with DISM 🙁

[limpid cairn]

sounds like you need a new laptop, ask for a threadripper laptop

[silk ocean]

IT support tried sfc /scannow xD

[shy mulch]

they sent me a new laptop the same day, this is corporate IT not a gaming station lol

[silk ocean]

Uh replied to FactoryCarts xD

[shy mulch]

they actually did that too lol

[outer scarab]

oh noes,... my game crashed

[silk ocean]

Unreal Error Report Please xD

[outer scarab]

What are you doing Unreal Error Report

[silk ocean]

Seeing why it crashed? xD

[blissful atlas]

hows 1700mw for 7500mw
just did my first oil factory decent ig? could be 10k but used some for plastic and rubber

[shy mulch]

I've noticed a curious correlation, that people who don't use mods and don't try to do anything weird never have crash issues. Interesting

[outer scarab]

i am not using mods.....

I was connecting a pipe to a refinery....

[shy mulch]

then put the crash report data in #1038092680493801533

[outer scarab]

strange your anecdotal evidence didn't apply tho

[boreal musk]

i learned that by having 5k powershards in your inventory could freeze the game for 5 seconds if you try to put them in machines via hold ctrl + left click

i thought my game was crashing

[stray herald]

5K powershards? 😭

[outer scarab]

some times you need to upgrade everything

[blissful atlas]

i mean slooping the natural ones are around 5k alr no?

[stray herald]

Aye!
If you haven't already, you can also repurpose the residue to fuel

[keen jacinth]

the power shard alt recipe:

[stray herald]

Yes there are many, many slugs around the map but 5K in the inventory at once? xD

[boreal musk]

i did use 300+ extra inv slot

[stray herald]

Ah

[boreal musk]

most of them are filled by concrete

[stray herald]

I was excited about the recipe just to learn it needs some items whose name is scary to even think about

[limpid cairn]

Even with those 300 slots, you cannot carry the amount of screws to power a singular assembler at 250% speed for a min….

[blissful atlas]

residue? oh wait the residual fuel?
im using the make a wish version of the HOR+Diluted Fuel+Recycle

[keen jacinth]

lmao

[blissful atlas]

balancing those containers were kinda annoying ngl

[stray herald]

Yeah you got it

[blissful atlas]

would rebuild the whole thing as soon as i get blender

now im just gonna start on my sulfur factory lmao (tier 6 alr still no sulfur production)

[stray herald]

Talking about screws, why does the bolted iron plate recipe exist? IT's literally less efficient but saves like 1 constructor or something

[limpid cairn]

You can clock it higher saving a lot more space

[blissful atlas]

wait iirc the steel screws recipe at 250% + sloop goes over the limit for maxed conveyer?

[boreal musk]

1300/min, yes

[stray herald]

Lots of screws 💔

[blissful atlas]

1300 screws/min is crazy lolz

[stray herald]

What happened to the banana username?

[limpid cairn]

Im hoping for a refinery buff so i dont have to place 5 thousand next play through

Even a small 5% buff would be nice…

[blissful atlas]

either buff or make it smaller ong

[stray herald]

And so many recipes use them

Pure recipes have saved me a few times

At the cost of using 20 thousand refineries

[limpid cairn]

my entire world runs on pure recipes xD

they are without a doubt the best recipes in the game

[stray herald]

Have people found out the maximum amount of water possible to extract?

[limpid cairn]

9007199254740991 (from greenys website)

[stray herald]

Also I wish power storage was unlocked early so we could store biofuel generator power in it

[rustic hare]

refinery life xD

[sterile blade]

They're all made into the "don't even try" machine, using the "you wouldn't get it" items

[stray herald]

I was laughing when I saw these names, now I know why

[blissful atlas]

nuclear pasta when

[stray herald]

All I got is conveyor pasta

[sterile blade]

Shortly after irradiated grain finishes growing

[stray herald]

I did my Phase 4 nuclear pasta using one overclocked and slooped accelerator

It was using 23 GW of power

[blissful atlas]

iirc the most complicated thing to make is the frictonium or smth rods

[limpid cairn]

now imagine that, but 64 times (imkibitz nuclear pasta factory)

[stray herald]

💔

[sterile blade]

Some spelevator parts can contend for the "most complex part" role too

[rustic hare]

dude is crazy lmao

[limpid cairn]

fr

[sterile blade]

Would be crazier if I had managed to show him my factory 😭

[stray herald]

I was planning on trying to do it but sadly it needs almost all tier 9 milestone unlocks and you can run 10 plutonium power plants for 16 hours with only one storage depot so I dropped the ficsonium idea

[limpid cairn]

i dont know what fact is sadder tho, him using like half of the maps copper, or him only making 60 nuclear pasta per minute

[blissful atlas]

only 60/min

[limpid cairn]

i expected 61/min with using half of the copper available

[stray herald]

We should be able to breed doggos and build giant wheels powered by doggos running in them

[blissful atlas]

a mere 60m sink points per min ong

100% shld make a plutonium fuel rod factory shiz gonna be like .5b per min

[shy mulch]

If doggos could breed, that would suggest they have certain parts, and that leads us down a path of rule 34

[stray herald]

Knowing people, I would't be surprised if the Assembler had rule 34 of it 😭

[shy mulch]

I know for a fact the quantum encoder does (shifty eyes) just don't look in my "other" folder

those delightfully sensual fluid inputs

[sterile blade]

Well, if there isn't, there is someone uploading already. Or so do the rules say...

[blissful atlas]

prty sure it wld be more furries than anyth ngl theres q a few animals in the game

[steady glade]

and just like that, i've made a mistake to ruin my morning

[stray herald]

YOU SEARCHED?

[steady glade]

its all no good, very bad

evil

[sterile blade]

"Fuck those whale-penguin things!" suddenly doesn't sound so innocent...

[lofty juniper]

is there anymore secrets in the ficsit shop?

[sterile blade]

As you progress through the milestones, the shop will have new stuff unlocked

[lofty juniper]

im at the end of the game

[sterile blade]

Also, we don't know what secrets you have unlocked already, so we can't quite make a list of those you haven't 😅

[lofty juniper]

oh yeah srry cyber waggon and thats it, anymore?

[sterile blade]

Iirc, that should be about it
Not in the shop, but there might be a nice extra if you try sinking Waste

[lofty juniper]

ok ty

[silk ocean]

Long phone call with the mother derailed me xD

[rustic hare]

have you gotten the golden factory cart?

[lofty juniper]

no?

[silk ocean]

Get in the shop xD

Is it shoppable xD

Going to get ticked off for excessive use of xD again

[rustic hare]

then that's your shop easter egg

concrete have such a high stack count that this one train have been waiting for a few mins to fill up ._.

[blissful atlas]

Why is it not reccomended to use mk 2 pipes
More buggy than mk1?

[green fiber]

Its not recommended to use them at maximum flow rate.
You can use them but it requires special care

Not technically more "buggy" - just more prone to behave in very disruptive ways at max flow compared to mk 1

[silk ocean]

I've never had a problem with Mk.2 pipes

[green fiber]

Then you applied "special care"

Be that conciously or even subconciously

[silk ocean]

You almost got that word right xD

[green fiber]

cursed be the extra s

im not gonna fix that spelling mistake, that one can rot in hell

[silk ocean]

Cursed s xD

No requirement, Google can fix it xD

Start your sentences with a capital letter, it's good practice. I really am an English nightmare right now

I'm like the English teacher that you want to throw out the window

[rustic hare]

no 🤣

I don't want to expend extra calories

[silk ocean]

Pinkie on left shift is a lot of calories

Calories well spent to deliver a correct sentence xD

[limpid cairn]

but we have factory carts for that

[silk ocean]

Capital B please

The slacking is intense

[limpid cairn]

i cant afford the capital letters

[silk ocean]

Apparently capital letters are expensive

[leaden turret]

sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs ᴍᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ᴇxᴛʀᴀ ᴇxᴘᴇɴsɪᴠᴇ

[silk ocean]

HORROR xD

[limpid cairn]

the only small cap i can do is

-# hello

ah wait

its only small not caps

im too broke for the caps dlc that got released by discord (ea)

[leaden turret]

-# 🧢

[silk ocean]

Shift key.. Coming soon.. Only $7.99 for one month xD

[rustic hare]

I have 2 shift keys, one is left unused

[leaden turret]

TIL -# 🧢 is the perfect size for small face emotes

[limpid cairn]

right shift?

[silk ocean]

Right Shift Key DLC, only $3.95 for 10 days

[rustic hare]

you guess, maybe I'm a lunatic and don't use the left shift

[silk ocean]

You are mildly insane XD

[rustic hare]

heck, I may even use capslock for singular capital letters, who knows

[silk ocean]

Oh yes, that is def a sign of insanity xD

[rustic hare]

how is that insane if people who type FICSIT by holding their shift key aren't

[silk ocean]

It's a very good question xD

I am probably insane because I disabled my CAPS key and I type caps with my pinkie xD Which is most likely insane xD

Shift key is the secret to insanity 😉

Not the Right one tho xD

The Left one

[rustic hare]

what about me binding the right shift key to capslock and using it to type singular capital letters?

[silk ocean]

Oh this is hardcore insanity, like boss-mode insanity

[rustic hare]

I'm thinking of ways to make it worse

like switching to stenotype layout so literally barely anybody can use my keyboard ever again

[silk ocean]

Holding down Left and Right Shift and CAPS, all at the same time? XD

[rustic hare]

I could even make double tapping shift = capslock, similar to how the phone keyboard is 😂

[limpid cairn]

youre pfp tells me that you are fine sanity wise

[rustic hare]

plot twist, it's not me

[silk ocean]

This is like total bossmode

[limpid cairn]

now i have a wrong image of you ggwp

[stray herald]

I feel like I'm addicted to Satisfactory

How similar is Factorio in terms of how playing it feels like?

[limpid cairn]

It’s basically 2d satisfactory but you don’t have infinite resource nodes (besides oil iirc) also, you are getting raided if you play with pve on

[tacit ocean]

Nooo I lost my fcis badge

[stray herald]

What about Paradox's game? Foundry I think?

[limpid cairn]

I’ve never play any other factory game besides factorio and satisfactory

I played a bunch of create mod in Minecraft tho if you’re interested🥴

[tacit ocean]

And you do not have yo rely on. Busses in satisfactory as much

[limpid cairn]

Tbh automating wise, factorio is way harder

[boreal musk]

imagine misclicking your rocket launcher and blowing up your entire nuclear plant, while also ripping your hair off how to recover the power production while the bitter already at their max evolution

[stray herald]

☠️

[craggy widget]

Does someone of you know a good server provider?
I'd love to play on a server and I can't host my own one.

[leaden turret]

best ask in #dedicated-servers

[craggy widget]

True that, I'm just a very impatient man and I can't wait to play this game

[brazen swallow]

how to get enough courage to start doing phase 4 elevator stuff?

i’ve unlocked a few of the new tier milestones but even trains seem such a huge undertaking that i’ve slacked for a week now, doing smaller things (like fuel power plants)

[crystal siren]

Smaller things, it is.

Let's say you plan on doing heavy modular frames. That's quite a production chain when you look at it. But when you break it into smaller parts, it doesn't look that hard any more - and transporting raw items is most likely more of a headache than higher-tier stuff.

When you want to start with trains you could either start by making a "push-pull" system that has a locomotive on either end and just one single rail and it drives from one station to another. You can still upgrade to a two-way rail system later

[limpid seal]

?

oooooh i was in the older messages

[brazen swallow]

it’s possible for trains to transport for instance heavy oil instead of just laying pipes across the map?

[limpid seal]

i am rescerching oil

idk

[brazen swallow]

my worst headache is that all of my factories excluding oil are at the south fields spawn location

but oil is too far away to easily get it there

[crystal siren]

transporting fluids comes with a few tricky parts, you need fluid buffers to keep the flow going (train stations will block the input and output for ~30 seconds while unloading or loading)
But yeah, you can transport anything you want. Just try not to mix a train car's inventory.

[brazen swallow]

🫠

[crystal siren]

Youtube videos will help. And trial and error is also good. If there's something wrong with what you built and you can't figure out why, there's still ppl here that can help 😄

[boreal musk]

you can do simple buffer setup as long as the flow rate isnt at max capacity

very different case when it comes to 600/min

pump is needed, since you dont want any backflow after it leaves the buffer into the freight fluid car

[limpid cairn]

had that once but without the rocket part

[candid ingot]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s no point in upgrading belts if the item production rate os below the belt capacity

[unkempt blade]

yeah you should be replacing belts with factory carts for maximum style points instead

[austere lichen]

If you build modular and are able to add more machines to the manifold/distribution then there's definitely merit to upgrade belts

[zenith pecan]

Adding floors is usually a good way to expand, just mirror downstairs and have floor holes at the ends.

[silk ocean]

Could be risky xD

[shy mulch]

I built dozens of train lines going nowhere. Different types of stations. Different types of junctions. Different signal layouts etc. Just to get a feel for how everything all works. Once I was confident I understood it then I made a few blueprints and it only took me a couple of days to build a full two-way rail loop around the entire map. Having that loop in place has completely transformed how I play, anything I need I can quickly build a small station anywhere beside the loop, load things into it and send it wherever

And I just spilled curry on my phone. Great

[silk ocean]

Supposedly it is water resistant

Maybe

[zenith pecan]

Pulled out my phone while the laptop diagnostics roll, tron colours on screen and the corner is bent, staff member: I don't know why its acting weird!...

[hollow hazel]

GUYS! Hear me out: Cards Against ADA
Taking all of ADA's quotes (and possible even the Entity's) and replacing some of the words with the actual Cards Against Humanity answers.
For example

Remember that any complaints regarding the size of ________ are a you problem, and only serve to highlight your own inefficiencies.

• The milk man
• Clenched butt cheeks
• Finger painting

Your waves lap at our ________, when will you land?

• BATMAN
• Sharks with legs
• Being fabulous

[leaden turret]

Cards Against ADA ADA Against Humanity

[limpid cairn]

Let me guess, there’s also a train driving to two towers…

||this is a joke pls don’t ban me 🙏||

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737>

Does the Lizard Doggo have a butthole, cloaca, or _____

[limpid cairn]

I’m so proud of myself, I automated 65 crystal oscillators that I won’t be able to use for another 20h + 🥴

[silk ocean]

You spilled a curry on your phone? Where do you live, don't say England or Germany for the love of god XD

[limpid cairn]

Iirc he was from the land under sea

[leaden turret]

Previous CM Snutt used to call the Assembler _____

• Clenched butt cheeks
• BATMAN
• Sharks with legs

[silk ocean]

Oh, I see xD

[leaden turret]

the netherlands?

[silk ocean]

Yes xD

[limpid cairn]

I wonder why they don’t extract the excess water and use it for pure ingots

Bad efficiency by the government

[hollow hazel]

Due to popular demand I have added the following motivational speech: ________

• A giant ball of used electrical tape
• The Rapture
• A monkey smoking a cigar

[silk ocean]

Well sea water is salt water, you need nuclear desalination xD

[limpid cairn]

Just sink the salt byproduct then 🤔

[silk ocean]

Yep put the salt into the sink.. if only xD

[leaden turret]

The Lizard Doggo is tamed by feeding it ____

• BATMAN
• Quiche
• A monkey smoking a cigar

[limpid cairn]

Okay hear me out, what if you fuse the salt water with the salt byproduct and then take the salt out of the water…

[silk ocean]

You get.. salt? xD

[limpid cairn]

Yes but less salt…

[shy mulch]

Neither of those 😝

[silk ocean]

Not possible I would imagine xD

[limpid cairn]

Sadly I know 😔

[silk ocean]

The flooded country as mentioned in chat? xD

[shy mulch]

Could be that, or could be Somalia, or could be somewhere else

[silk ocean]

Could be Western Indonesia

[shy mulch]

Could be!

[silk ocean]

Could be the north of Italy

Could be 'stralia

[limpid cairn]

Im pointing at Iceland

[silk ocean]

Good location for video games. Geothermal powah

[shy mulch]

Ooh all great options. Maybe I'll try them all

[silk ocean]

Such a German response xD

[limpid cairn]

Best option would be to create your own country

[silk ocean]

So mid Europe xD

[shy mulch]

People have tried that but usually end up invaded 😂

[limpid cairn]

well, just be between the big countries

Look at Lichtenstein for example

[shy mulch]

Nice plan

[hollow hazel]

Uh oh. I just pulled the "Live Laugh Consume" card. Time for all players to discard three of their answer cards. 😄

[shy mulch]

I have been to Liechtenstein, nice place

[silk ocean]

Are you from Ascension xD

[leaden turret]

• Hannah
• Mikael
• Jason

[silk ocean]

Liechtenstein.. Expensive xD

[limpid cairn]

was there once

Place was just a town

when do you unlock the super crystal oscillators?

[shy mulch]

!wikisearch crystal+oscillator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=crystal+oscillator

[silk ocean]

I figured out where you are. Cape Verde. Off the west coast of mid Africa. You order from Amazon from Senegal

[zenith pecan]

That looks like a cd player designed for the fallout universe.

[shy mulch]

Haha I'd be happy there. I'm definitely an elevenerife regular

[silk ocean]

You live in the canaries? xD

[silk ocean]

You live in the canaries don't you xD

Nice place xD

[tame marlin]

should i make turbo fuel with fuel and compacted coal to make my energy?

[silk ocean]

Prob just make fuel xD

[tame marlin]

well it doesnt sound very hard to make turbo thats the thing

altho iam building in the beach spot so is harder

only 1 pure sulfer node

with mk2 means 600

i need 1000 sorta

can use somersloop to compensate

but this is without using all my oil so...

i would need to make some work with turbo some not

[upper gale]

Is it all gonna be used for power, or will you package some

[tame marlin]

i do not knyow

[carmine aspen]

im using mine for power untill i unlock aluminum processsing

[tame marlin]

oil fuel is the first thing im doing in this new tier so im still just a noob i dont even need all this power

[carmine aspen]

then moving to rocket fuel

[upper gale]

Personally I go with turbo over regular fuel because I use it for jetpack or if I'm feeling it then tractors or trucks

[tame marlin]

but i would like something that could scale

[limpid cairn]

yes

how much oil do you have?

[tame marlin]

2 pure 2 normal

1800?

i wont use it all for now

[limpid cairn]

💀

[hard ivy]

600 oil is 20 GW with regular fuel. no point in making turbo imo

[tame marlin]

is it

[hard ivy]

with the right alts, yeah

[upper gale]

Did someone say oil🇺🇸 🦅

[tame marlin]

ye is 20k ok

[upper gale]

Yeah

Should last you for some tiers

[tame marlin]

i currently only have 1k but i have basically nothing built

but ye 20k is a lot

if i make turbo fuel is it useful for other stuff?

like better jetpack?

[rustic pier]

So i have an area using a oil pressured vein for plastic.. i get all this overflow heavy residue.. anybody have a good way to deal with it besides siphoning off some plastic to package it and sink it?

[hard ivy]

turbo diamonds

[rustic pier]

Since it doesnt seem to be useful for much else but a fuel source for vehicles i dont have lol

[limpid cairn]

you get better thrust with turbo fuel but lbf is superior

[tame marlin]

lbf?

[limpid cairn]

its cheaper and lasts you longer

[tame marlin]

oh liquiod

[limpid cairn]

animal fuel

[hard ivy]

use alts. then it turns into a desired product

[unkempt blade]

Petroleum coke is an easy recipe for it early on if you just want something sinkable. HOR gets used in a lot of alt recipes though

[limpid cairn]

if you want plastic, turn the heavy oil residue into fuel and use the residual plastic alt to make plastic out of rubber and fuel

[rustic pier]

Guess i dont have the alternate for it then. No other recipes at the moment for it lol

[limpid cairn]

theres a lot more i think someone can explain it to you

[unkempt blade]

yeah you could do residual fuel with it without mam recipes but the recycled plastic/rubber is from alts

[upper gale]

Manifold it all and turn it to petroleum coke to sink it for now. But leave space so later you can make use of it when you have more alts

[unkempt blade]

I actually like some of the alt recipes that use coke too

[upper gale]

Yeah that too

[hard ivy]

of all the recipes that use coke, I only use electrode scrap

[sick dragon]

Solid steel ftw

[limpid cairn]

im thinking about switching over to electrode scrap too tbh

[unkempt blade]

I use the circuit board and steel recipes with it a fair bit too

[sick dragon]

Electrode allows you to get 1 for 1 ratio with your bauxite so it's nice

Im planning a swamp factory that takes all the bauxite nodes in the swamp as well as the 4 just to the west for 5400 aluminum ingots. I'll have to import some oil since the oil well isnt enough though :/

But the ratios are nice and even

Just placed the 54 refineries that make the scrap. I then have to get more refineries because im not recycling it this time as im just gonna put it all into concrete to export that as well.

180 smelters are gonna be fun though

[zenith pecan]

I way overproduced coke for electrode, the rest goes into diamonds for time crystals.

[atomic crest]

My least favourite thing in satisfactory is building long things from a to b, this includes belts, pipes, tubes or rails

(Ocer long distances)

[shy mulch]

Just reading some of this chat. Interesting, I don't think I have any petroleum coke anywhere in my world. Am I missing something important?

[atomic crest]

You need to make it

I think the easiest way to begin with is in the Sulfur research tree

[shy mulch]

I think you misunderstood. I know how to get it. I'm saying I don't make any or use any

Is there a good use case that I've overlookede

[atomic crest]

It’s needed in turbo fuel

[covert sphinx]

thats compacted coal lol

[atomic crest]

There’s an alternative recipe I think that uses coke

[covert sphinx]

oh shoot thats cool

[shy mulch]

I use compacted coal for turbofuel, which goes to be made into diamonds

I have a lot of compacted coal by product from my rocket fuel factory so it seemed like a good use of it

[hard ivy]

Electrode scrap is the only recipe I'd consider good

[shy mulch]

Yeah that looks decent. If I ever find myself short on alu then I'd consider it

[white dawn]

It's not uncommon to not purposefully make any. As mentioned, Electrode Scrap is probably its biggest use-case

[limpid cairn]

you can make a train rail bp if you want

[white dawn]

For most folks it's just a byproduct, though

[limpid cairn]

helps building them a lot

[limpid cairn]

its just a coal replacement

also do i invest into nuclear power?

[atomic crest]

It’s like kms long though

[white dawn]

Depends: do you want nuclear power?

[limpid cairn]

i build an entire train system across the bottom of the map in less than an hour

[limpid cairn]

yeah

i mean it looks fun to automate

[white dawn]

There you go, then. :)

[unkempt blade]

you could always just use factory carts, they're way better

[upper gale]

The things I don't like about trains, how the rails can't turn sharply, even up or down too. And how much space the stations take up

I feel I'm having to compensate so much to make it look good

[unkempt blade]

they feel a little less big once I'm building factories that basically use full nodes but for my early factory stuff they do seem huge

[limpid cairn]

wait scim has a harddrive map?

[unkempt blade]

however... trucks stops and factory carts take up much less space if you need to fit in a small factory 😄

[astral gyro]

Yeah

I am just starting trains and they feel small to my current factory

[limpid cairn]

can more people send their scim maps into #screenshots ?

[astral gyro]

Irl trains cant turn sharp in any plane, they are big vehicles that require space

[limpid cairn]

technically its possible if you have enough momentum

[unkempt blade]

IRL factory carts like forklifts can basically spin in circles though so the game is just very accurate when it comes to vehicles

[upper gale]

Yeah that's the reason they made it like that in the game. Although because it's a game and we're also thousands of years into the future they could've bent the rules of physics a bit. Or well, bent the rail a bit more

[hard ivy]

The simple solution is to not bother making it look good lol

[astral gyro]

I mean the uturn i made is like 4 foundations, its not huge

[limpid cairn]

youre born to automate, not make stuff look good

[white dawn]

Technically, Satisfactory trains allow for much sharper turns and climbing angles than our current real-life trains do. :D

[upper gale]

Dude I had a rail that just had like 100 bumps on it and my train kept going up and down it was so wonky

[unkempt blade]

the true roller coaster experience

[upper gale]

Need a long bridge or something but it should stay leveled, then need a spiral to change it's elevation, the bridge needs supports, ect

[grand dew]

i know i may be late but Happy Birthday Satisfactory

[limpid cairn]

why is there only 300m^3 less nitrogen gas than oil in the world

i thought nitrogen gas was super rare

[unkempt blade]

because they based it on real earth

[limpid cairn]

then why is there no oil in the desert...

[unkempt blade]

plate tectonics are weird I guess

[upper gale]

In the game Astroneer, when you place rails, it automatically places a support pillar under, that extends to the ground

[limpid cairn]

or, the americans already plundered all the oil out of the desert...

[limpid cairn]

theres trains in astroneer?

[grand dew]

yes

[upper gale]

Of course, and trains are super fun in that game

[unkempt blade]

possibly also why there are no solar panels or windmills

[limpid cairn]

tbh i never bothered with any logistics / automation in astroneer

[upper gale]

You can automate a lot, I made an entire base with storages for everything that pulls from ores underground. But like it's a lot different than Satisfactory you have to think different

There's also logic gates

[limpid cairn]

the farthest automation i made was a mining system that mined sam and stored it next to it

[upper gale]

I had a base that turns scrap into any resource. I'll stop talking about astroneer now though

[zenith pecan]

Mine mines all the worlds sam, and processes it 90 metres under the dunes 🤣

[shy mulch]

is there anything in particular you're wanting to see? if I set everything to show it'll be an incomprehensible mess

[atomic crest]

Does it look good?

[limpid cairn]

yes

[shy mulch]

uho my browser is on fire trying to render 261km of power lines lol

[cunning siren]

How does one get under the map? 🤔 I'm guessing this is something one can do at any part of the map too?

[outer scarab]

you are playing satisfactory in a browser?

[outer scarab]

tubes or trains is the common way

[limpid cairn]

Trains and rails

[tall lantern]

or if you aren't too worried about being able to get back up, just go to one of the many openings into the void

[shy mulch]

satisfactory is a standalone application, how on earth would that run in a browser?

[cunning siren]

How does that work?

[limpid cairn]

You can play everything in a browser

[outer scarab]

you build up to the invisable wall and push yourself through it

[limpid cairn]

Build a track that sticks into the ground, build a train on the track and drive into the ground

[shy mulch]

technically you can run a vm and play it on that within a browser, but realistically you're gonna be measuring minutes per frame rather than frames per second

[outer scarab]

Reminds me of my A1 tank.... it got 8 gallons to the mile

[shy mulch]

quick edit, no tank would get 8 miles to a gallon haha

[cunning siren]

When you say invisible wall you mean the "hurt you" area on the horizontal boarders?

[outer scarab]

no just any object that is a wall

like a rock

[limpid cairn]

well, can’t you design satisfactory written with css js and html?

isn’t that theoretically possible

[shy mulch]

that's rewriting the game though, completely different question

[tame marlin]

how do u nudge buildings

got it

[limpid cairn]

press h

[cunning siren]

Page UP / Down for vertical nudge too

[limpid cairn]

Or you open the neurons from your brain to remember the exact path you nudged a building an do the opposite of that path

[cunning siren]

^ This is why I try to stick to the defaults

[limpid cairn]

@shy mulch let me guess, you started in the green hills?

[shy mulch]

yep

[limpid cairn]

Man I miss building there

[shy mulch]

it's a nice place to start, very pretty

[limpid cairn]

besides only having blue snails it was a really good biome

[cunning siren]

A under the map train seems like it may be a better idea than a sky train in some aspects and worse in others 🤔 I may do a sky train instead

[limpid cairn]

It’s basically a metro system

[shy mulch]

I wanted to do an under the map box factory that was pretty on the inside and didn't matter what it looks like on the outside, just floating in nowhere, accessible via portal, then realised how would I get power there

[unkempt blade]

if you do under the map you'll barely see your trains though 🙁

watching vehicles zip around is the best part of vehicles

[limpid cairn]

Bio Fuel and a Dream

[cunning siren]

That's a good point it is enjoyable and handy to see stuff working

[limpid cairn]

Or you deliver packaged rocket fuel via drone and burn it there

[cunning siren]

I did not even consider all the train enjoyers point of view 🤔

[topaz shale]

Or clip rails underground and use the station to get power there.

I'm also sure that there is a blueprint that you can use to be able to have a power cable clipped underground with an access point to be able to get power underground.

[shy mulch]

Hmmm interesting. How do drones behave if one of the ports is below the map? Do they just mindlessly clip through and not care?

[tame marlin]

elevators have max height?

[timid oar]

yep

[hard ivy]

200m

[tame marlin]

:c

[cunning siren]

OH right, station has a power node connection

[tame marlin]

my building is become a little too big...

should have built more space sideways

[limpid cairn]

There is never to big

[topaz shale]

There are fortunately many ways to get power underground. You could also just use a very small rail system that you can use to get underground and above ground using trains. Pretty cool.

[outer scarab]

People who dont understand how to make power wires beautiful are missing out on like half the game

if you need to hide a structure b/c it's ugly, you are doing it wrong

[shy mulch]

There is no "wrong" in this game, it's a sandbox game, do whatever makes you happy

[unreal hollow]

what's the convention on floor clearances for multi level factories?

[red sun]

i know how, i just hate how tedious connecting power lines is already and i don't need to make it even more complex

[red sun]

a lot of people have logistic floors and use lifts to bring things up to the machines

[shrewd palm]

8 4m foundations is enough to fit a refinery, not sure how tall things like particle accelerators are but its probably only a foundation or 2 taller

[red sun]

i think that's what you mean lol

[dense violet]

make floors as tall as you need?
though I probably wouldn't completely enclose things like refineries and coal gens. You could build them in steps though so you don't have to include the chimneys

[red sun]

if i build a roof over coal gens i tend to clip the chimneys through the roof

[unreal hollow]

I'm still near the beginning so I didn't want to have to redo a structure later because a really tall structure gets unlocked

so just wanted to future-proof myself if possible

[dim flint]

Man I want a half merger half smart splitter so bad right now.

[outer scarab]

you mean like a 2 to 2?

[dim flint]

I want to make two columns of splurgers, where one column splits off by item and the next splits off by overflow. This way I can see the rate each item is being produced regardless of if it goes to the sink or storage/depot.

[outer scarab]

and you cant just do 2 splitters?

you can push them really close and it looks fine

or stack them

I personally like the stack look

[dim flint]

Yea, I'm going to have to do some stacked thing...

[hard ivy]

it's called a 2:2 balancer

[dim flint]

But it means I'll have to rebuild the thing, because it will take more space.

[outer scarab]

yah from your screen shot i would go up

are you making a sushi sorter?

[dim flint]

In this case, not exactly, since I'm using it for overflow.

[outer scarab]

b/c thats the only reason I see that being used

[dim flint]

Yea, it's a sushi sorter, sure.

[outer scarab]

i would sort first then add a single sushi overflow line

[dense violet]

future proofing is a waste of time
also, don't build a roof over empty space? you can also make multiple floors

[dim flint]

I could aviod all this and just run overflow down the mainline, but then I wouldn't be able to see the rates of production for each item once the storage was full.

[hard ivy]

a half splitter half merger is a 2:2 balancer. 2 inputs 2 outputs

[dense violet]

also future proofing is a waste of time as you don't know what you'll want to do or where, or how. So you'll just end up doing a lot of work for nothing

[outer scarab]

why not just see the rate of production at production?

[dim flint]

Yes, but it's half smart splitter.

[dim flint]

Less esthetic.

[hard ivy]

then use smart splitters for the balancer

[outer scarab]

then its what you think looks good

[dim flint]

I mean yea. In essence.

[outer scarab]

reminder you can clip virtical belts into splitters to save space

[dim flint]

It's really nice to see production all in one place after it's all said and done. You don't have to worry you forgot a split that happens later and will sink off stuff.

[outer scarab]

i mean I dont do that, but thats because I build the final product and work backwards

[keen jacinth]

yall think theres enough resourcs in the world to produce exactly one machine of every resource in the game, like 1 manu of computers, 1 constructor of plates etc

[outer scarab]

easily

[dense violet]

a lot more than that

[hard ivy]

I'm like 99% sure it's more than possible

[keen jacinth]

my next project

[dim flint]

vastly more than that.

[keen jacinth]

1 of EVERYTHING

[dense violet]

for example you could do 240 super computers

that's not a lot