satisfactory

[shrewd pelican]

imma go back to playing bye

[limpid cairn]

its not really a headache but more a space issue 💀

[past pelican]

If i share my save file, will anyne check?

[unkempt blade]

I personally wouldn't but I can't speak for everyone 😆

[past pelican]

okayy

[stark summit]

easier would maybe be to join the game and observe it firsthand

[shrewd pelican]

how do i enter the camera mode?

[peak wasp]

does anyone have the water pipe diagram

[boreal musk]

press P

[shrewd pelican]

oh thx!

[limpid cairn]

guys is 1 wall of height (4m) enough space for a logistic floor?

[stark summit]

heh, some folks were discussing that earlier, they said no

[trim vine]

2-3

[trim vine]

trust

[unkempt blade]

Sometimes, especially if you don't care about clipping. It'll feel super cramped though

[boreal musk]

it depends, if its large logistic floor you might want 12-16m height
but in general 7m is enough

[limpid cairn]

its mainly for transporting excess stuff away

the main logistic is like above it (its a sushi belt)

or at least somewhat a sushi belt

[unkempt blade]

the inside of my skyroads are around that height and there's room for a few conveyors in there

if you're not getting too fancy it's probably enough

[hybrid nymph]

I am working on my trains then going to work on my next milestone

[reef basin]

vacations are usually july and august, depends on specific people

[hybrid nymph]

I want those mk5 belts

[reef basin]

umm, what?

they literally said in advance "studio will be partially or fully on vacations through july and august, as in every other year"

what "bs" are you even talking about?

[unkempt blade]

there are lots of old games out there that aren't being actively developed anymore if you don't want to have to wait for news 🙂

[limpid cairn]

I don’t think vacations are country based

[reef basin]

and you also know that people can take vacations as they want, if they are validated by their bosses

and even if all of them magically appeared in office half of august, what news do you want to hear? "we're in pretty much same situation as back in june, because we were on vacations"?

[unkempt blade]

factory carts mk2 or I'm going to burn down the entire country of sweden in my rage!

[reef basin]

the situation was the same when snutt and jace were here
vacations through summer, then a few weeks before any actual progress is shared, because the progress obviously doesn't happen during summer

console is done by third-party afaik

[solid storm]

Hey all! Just started plating this game, and it's AWESOME! Also just got freaked out for a few seconds after seeing this: Hmm, it won't let me post a screenshot? Anyways, it was a cat head that freaked me out.

[hybrid nymph]

Jar Jar is a sith lord

[reef basin]

cat head is a spider in arachnophobia mode

[solid storm]

good to know, ty

[cursive totem]

you seem way too invested in this ngl

[reef basin]

if you don't like it, why are you here?

[limpid cairn]

fr

[cursive totem]

suit yourself i guess

[reef basin]

(also, you're completely free to not like things, but I'd recommend tuning down your attitude in a public place like discord servers)

[cursive totem]

AI :yikes:

[reef basin]

why are you here (meaning in this server)

[limpid cairn]

The studio isn’t even that bad compared to other studios

[hybrid nymph]

I feel dumb, just found out biomass burners can be powered by biofuel

[cursive totem]

well, comparison to something worse doesnt make it better

[reef basin]

there's always some random person saying how everything is shit and nothing is good. Best to just ignore those

[cursive totem]

yeah

[cursive totem]

what... else did you use 😄

[hybrid nymph]

and biofuel is the most efficient fuel for them

[stray herald]

Is Diluted packaged fuel good?

[hybrid nymph]

solid biofuel, aka pistol logs

[limpid cairn]

It does when you set the bar super low

[reef basin]

it's part of the chain that makes most fuel out of oil, but is more complex than the other ways (though those make less fuel)

I'm not

and I'm very much happy with the approach CSS has - putting people before product

[cursive totem]

i mean mor along the lines of "X being even worse does not mean that Y is not also bad"

[reef basin]

so I have no reason to complain about things that aren't even a problem

???

[unkempt blade]

you might want to go check out #rules

[hybrid nymph]

question? Should I store excess fuel or just setup more turbofuel generators?

[reef basin]

if you make more than you use, then "storing" is not a solution, because the buffers will still overflow eventually

I'd personally just use what I make (or rather make only what I need)

[limpid cairn]

Set up more / oc the current ones

[spring blade]

i have a question/questions... game is on sale, 1) how is it on steam deck, 2) how is it on hand holding/ new person friendly to automation games?

[limpid cairn]

Unless you need more fuel

[hybrid nymph]

okay sounds good, thanks for the tip, I'm curently producing enough for 7 refineries

and I only have 5 refineries

[limpid cairn]

I’d say it’s medium friendly (you have to look up a ton of stuff / ask here )

[cursive totem]

its okay on deck, but you need some tinkering
as for the new person; imo one of the most beginner-friendly automation games - it starts very simple and the learning curve is very flat before it ramps up in phase 3

[hybrid nymph]

it's better to be producing too much turbofuel and setup more fuel generators than it is to not have enough turbofuel

[spring blade]

🤔 i got me dyson sphere program a while back... i felt overwhelmed and felt like lost and confused. i then went to a game called oddsparks and its great for me.

[cursive totem]

DSP is a bit much for beginners yeah

[reef basin]

Satisfactory is a bit more complicated than oddsparks

[median shell]

1. don't know 2) I'd give it a 8/10 for noob friendliness, just pay attention to ADA and tooltips

[cursive totem]

oddsparks is fun, when you get the hang of that, satisfactory sounds like a good next step

[hybrid nymph]

speaking of dyson spheres, do you think it would be possible to setup a dyson sphere around a white dwarf or neutron star?

[spring blade]

100%

[cursive totem]

they dont really radiate much do they

[spring blade]

people just need to stop theorizing and just do it. (like our sun)

but... ok ill get me satisfactory then and see how it goes

[cursive totem]

we will glass the planet before that ever happens lol (but imagining it is fun)

[unkempt blade]

why do we need a dyson sphere when we have unlimited free power from factory carts driving inside of giant hamster wheels?

[hybrid nymph]

I think a white dwarf is the best option for a dyson sphere

because it's only about the size of the earth

[reef basin]

<@&387163995947270144> opinions are fine but I think this one's attitude is a bit too much (see also previous messages)

[hybrid nymph]

and it has a lumoniosity that is consistant for hundreds of billions of years

I know it only has a luminosity of about 0.1 solar luminosity but that's enough

still it outputs 9.5x10^15 gigawatts in 1 second

if we could simply capture the entire energy output that hits earth from the sun in 1 second, we could power the entire planet for FREE for 6 years

[limpid cairn]

We should get a dlc where we can hop into the spacelift

[hybrid nymph]

of course, that would be awesome

[limpid cairn]

what could be in there tbh

[hybrid nymph]

but is you want space exploration, just play No man's Sky though

[limpid cairn]

i played no man sky already

I kinda crashed the item value of an item because it was bugged

I could sell it without loosing the item

😂

[hybrid nymph]

random question

should I setup more coal generators?

or just forget it and use more fuel generators?

[cursive crane]

I have a stasis device farm that gives me like 20 devices every 6 hours lol

[limpid cairn]

Fuel gens

[hybrid nymph]

okay

what should I do with the excess compacted coal?

[limpid cairn]

My entire power grid works on like 12 fuel gens atm and it’s only using 1 normal and 2 impure nodes

[cursive crane]

Why not both, but the largest producer of both options first

[hybrid nymph]

I'm producing 375 compacted coal per minute

[limpid cairn]

Turbo fuel

[hybrid nymph]

okay

[hard ivy]

Fine black powder kekw

[limpid cairn]

The normal rocket fuel recipe needs turbo fuel right ?

[hybrid nymph]

I already have 2 deep sotrage units full of smokeless powder

[limpid cairn]

Craft them into bombs.

[hard ivy]

Bruh this isn't Minecraft we don't have DSUs here 💀

[hybrid nymph]

fine, an industrial sotrage unit

excuse me

I filled up a deep strage unit before in Minecraft, with cobblestone, yes I put 2 billion cobblestone in one

[hard ivy]

It's called an Industrial Storage Container

ISC for short

[hard ivy]

Do that with octuple compressed cobblestone
(92 442 129 404 471 487 cobblestone 💀)

[hybrid nymph]

Oh my god I am prosucing so much excess fuel

okay setting up another refinery

[vale palm]

How far out to sea can you place water extractors? Only on the shore or also into the darker parts?

[stray herald]

I'd like some votes please:D https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1410186879881445486

[frail sleet]

anywhere you can swim

[vale palm]

okey thanks!

[hard ivy]

Note that this includes all the water you can see. And it includes some water you can't see

[vale grotto]

Both are good, but I would get solid steel first

[stray herald]

Noted

This game tickles the right neurons in my head

[hybrid nymph]

oh my turbofuel storage is full

[stray herald]

Spare me some 🙏

[hybrid nymph]

what should I do?

setup more fuel generators or mor tanks?

[silk ocean]

More generators ofc xD

Moar tanks will just fill up again

[hybrid nymph]

I just did the math, I have enough turbofuel for 12 fully overclocked generators....

[silk ocean]

More power incoming then xD

[hybrid nymph]

alrighty then

let's see how many can we get?

[silk ocean]

It's kinda like fixing problems by adding more storage is only really delaying problems

[limpid cairn]

Take 2 without a doubt

Catherine wire is good yeah but solid steel is WAY BETTER

[stray herald]

Got it. Thanks!

Funny name lol

[limpid cairn]

Is there any use of Catherium besides wires ?

[violet oyster]

Guys I need some motivation, I feel super overwhelmed. Ive basicly just built my first fuel power plant, but I dont have the motivation to start the next steps, I feel overwhelmed by where I should build my next factory and what to progress. Any advice?

[hybrid nymph]

sweet I'm producing 10,000MW

[violet oyster]

I find myself logging in, run around then log out....

[silk ocean]

Break down what you need to do next towards your selected milestone, work backwards through the production chain and take one step at a time

[violet oyster]

The other issue I have is that whenever I start a new factory, Im running back to my main base every 10 mins for resources, Which is like 5 minutes both ways.

[hybrid nymph]

take a train then

[silk ocean]

In the early tiers, you can generally keep things all relatively close together in a kinda "starter factory" area

[violet oyster]

Yeh I should probably do that, Im just so paralysed cause im like "OH I dont wanna build a train here cause I need to design the train layout"

[hybrid nymph]

trains are the fastest land vehicle travelling at 120km

[violet oyster]

Ive just unlocked blueprint MK2, Cant remember what tier that is

[silk ocean]

Sounds like you are around 5 ish

[violet oyster]

Yeh I think so. After I re-jigged my starter factory, I just havent progressed haha

[silk ocean]

Setting up a train network pays off in the future, it's a lot of work to do it over a large area but it really helps later on

[hybrid nymph]

I've alreadt got 10,000MW power generation, isn't that enough?

[silk ocean]

It's enough until it's not enough

[violet oyster]

My power plant is also at 10k, but only using about 1k power currently haha

Too much power, not enough factory

[silk ocean]

Things will change xD

[violet oyster]

Oh I know haha, When i built my first coal plant I was like "How can this not be enough forever"

[silk ocean]

xD

[violet oyster]

I bought this game years ago during EA, Then didnt play it until 1.1. In early access I had about 10 hours. This is in the last month:

[hybrid nymph]

okay first thing I'm doing once I get my conveyorbelt mk5s is upgrading my coal plant

[violet oyster]

Well shit I cant post images....

[hard ivy]

Then T9 hits and 1 machine consumes more power than your first coal plant 💀

[violet oyster]

https://imgur.com/a/RVbjpzg

[violet oyster]

I cant wait....

[silk ocean]

That will be 350 hours in no time xD

or... well.. 196 hours time

[violet oyster]

But I cant believe I slept on this game for so long. Its such an amazing game. The performance alone is amazing.

[silk ocean]

Seems very well optimised now yep, still runs well for me with a pretty large fac

[hybrid nymph]

milestone time

alright time to craft nobelisks

[silk ocean]

You can in #screenshots

[hybrid nymph]

alright 200 nobelisks should do

[violet oyster]

I love how this discord server has 0 voice channel haha

[hybrid nymph]

anyone want to hop in voice?

oh shit we can't...

[silk ocean]

Voice could be chaotic on a server with over 50k members

[violet oyster]

Yeh but then you just limit users per channel.

[silk ocean]

True

[violet oyster]

I only noticed cause I was gonna ask if you wanted to stream your game, Revan.

I need inspiration haha

[silk ocean]

Regarding when you said about running 10 minutes - if you rush the alien tech tree and get the dimensional depot - that will really help

[violet oyster]

Yeh thats the last thing I unlocked

Im currently trying to setup depots for all basic building mats

Got about 30% so far]

[hollow apex]

+build a hypertube network to just remove the running part

[silk ocean]

They sit nicely on top of storage containers and you can feed from the container up into the depot

[violet oyster]

Should I prioritise upgrading them, or building them (As in having depots for each mat)

[silk ocean]

I have at least one container for each mat yep

*one depot

It's convenient to be able to get any mat remotely

Plus it means you can build anything you like wherever you are

[hybrid nymph]

isn't the golden nut state an achievement?

[silk ocean]

Yep

[hybrid nymph]

should I save up for it?

[silk ocean]

If you want the statue and/or the achievement, sure

[hybrid nymph]

is it worth buying the pioneering awards?

[silk ocean]

They're more cosmetic items

[fluid sapphire]

past a certain point there isnt anything else to do with coupons

[hybrid nymph]

I've got 136 tickets

[violet oyster]

Is there such a thing as an item stand? I wanted to make a museum with every item in my main factory

[hybrid nymph]

and I've bought most of the architecture items

[silk ocean]

Golden Nut for every remote factory location xD

[fluid sapphire]

golden nut for every hand slot

[silk ocean]

xD

Golden Nut on top of every coal generator

[fluid sapphire]

so none

[silk ocean]

If you dismantled, true xD

[stray herald]

Golden nut for every 'I'll fix it later'

[silk ocean]

I should get rid of mine and free up the coal

[hybrid nymph]

yeah I've bought most of the stuff in the awesome shop

[silk ocean]

That will be a very long line for me, probably would need an entire building XD

[stray herald]

😭

[violet oyster]

Whos everyones favorite content creator for satifactory?

[reef basin]

don't really watch content creators for SF

[crude canyon]

Today I was on a roof looking at some solar panels and he was like "how many solar panels are here?"
And I was like "ok lemme just enter dismantle rq"

[crude canyon]

WhatDarrenPlays

[hybrid nymph]

making more dna points

[silk ocean]

Only one I really know/watched is Kibitz

[hard ivy]

Pretty much none of them. Watching someone play the game wrong™ is more infuriating than enjoyable

The only exception is Let's Game It Out

[silk ocean]

Oh yea and Let's Game It Out

[violet oyster]

Yeh hes the main one Ive been watching. I also discovered this guy recently called Doc who is an ex boeing engineer who helped design their factories.

Josh doesnt create content, he demolishes it.

[crude canyon]

Oh yeah Doc is great

A bit simple

[hybrid nymph]

sweet just got 8 coupons

[crude canyon]

But honestly I think most of them either make gigantic builds like Kibitz or early game tips

[fluid sapphire]

i am watching sips' playthrough

[violet oyster]

I enjoyed Cdawgs playthrough recently, although I cant stand his friends voice

[robust thorn]

does the trick with two milestones at the same time still work?

[zenith pecan]

Likewise, they tend to use creative mode and build unrealistically huge structures that would nuke most compluters.

[crude canyon]

I like people who do niche stuff.
Epiphane does speedrunning

But speedruns are only good to watch the first time

[violet oyster]

Hey guys heres an easy coal power plant, all you need is 15 perfect alternative recipes, 800 power cores and 200 sloops.

[cinder axle]

anyone know where i can find an up to date interactive map

[hazy sable]

https://satisfactory.th.gl/

[fluid sapphire]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[violet oyster]

"Settings copied" "Settings pasted" "Settings copied" "Settings pasted" "Settings copied" "Settings pasted" "Settings copied" "Settings pasted" "Settings copied" "Settings pasted" "Settings copied" "Settings pasted"

[zenith pecan]

Touchè

[crude canyon]

Eh it's not just that

[hybrid nymph]

oof out of rotors

[violet oyster]

The GDQ one I watched yesterday was basicly 22 minutes of that.

[zenith pecan]

I know my own stuff can be oversized, but I'm not a content creator 😜

[crude canyon]

I watch some epiphane with his 9 hour speedruns

[violet oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbslNVzse28

[crude canyon]

It's always pretty different

[zenith pecan]

Though I did put a tunnelling primer and instructions for double doors on youtube so I can quickly offer those guides when people ask.

[hybrid nymph]

sweet almost have enough adaptive control units to last me the rest of the entire game

just need 5 more stacks

[torpid quest]

100% uptime is the most satisfying thing on a big project

[fluid sapphire]

never settle for anything less

[torpid quest]

sometimes just forget to connect something into a merger

the pain

[hard ivy]

I haven't had 100% uptime on any of my builds in years

[fluid sapphire]

i forgot a couple of lifts in a giant basement, once i added them i realized the whole thing was built by an idiot and didnt work anyway

[hard ivy]

On the last machines, always, but on the rest? Don't care. Doesn't matter

[fluid sapphire]

you monster

[lost wagon]

The new auto round from modeler is based, saved me from doing all the work

[sullen gull]

Yeah, just felt a bit of an eye tiwtch too 😏

Anyone by chance know if there is a mod to allow one to zoom in closer on the map?

[hard ivy]

It can even evenly UC/OC machines with the +/-

Would be really useful if I cared about having 100% uptime lmao

[lost wagon]

I was alreadg rounding up and underclocking everything, now it does it for me

[fiery lotus]

I must have like
15% uptime at best

But that's because I don't bother sinking the excess low value materials

[hard ivy]

If only it also gave you the exact text to paste into the machine

Wait it might if you switch it to decimal and round up

[uncut trail]

packaged turbo fuel on my mk4 belt moves insanely slow like mk1

[hybrid nymph]

okay well I'm hopping off for the night

I got school tomorrow

and I'll work on tier 7 milestones tomorrow

[fiery lotus]

It ain't feelin' so good, chief

[hard ivy]

Probably because there's a mk1 segment somewhere

[uncut trail]

nah i fixed it

[torpid quest]

true why would the others matter

i meant the machines actually making the end product

[uncut trail]

it was small belt to take fuel to storage, i removed it did it again and it fixed

[lost wagon]

Doesn't the game just know if you put like 88 3/4

It usually knows

[hard ivy]

No clue tbh. If you put a plus between the 88 and 3/4, it definitely would

But idk if it'd work without it

[lost wagon]

If you hover the clock icon thing it show in numbers iirc

At least the one test I did

[hard ivy]

I think Modeler also added in the recent update to show clock speed as a decimal, rounded to 4 places (like in-game), and rounded up so you're slightly overproducing instead of underproducing

Hmm but if you have multiple machines, it'd be better to round some of them up and some of them down so you get more correct production

[lost wagon]

Or just dont round it

[hard ivy]

I only wish it had custom recipe support

[hard ivy]

The game will anyway

Might as well round it yourself

Could even be better that way if you're really schizo about 100% uptime

[median cradle]

i started a new save two days ago and yesterday it started to crash randomly after like 1-2 min. Can anyone help about that?

[lost wagon]

I just put the 4 decimals it always showed, the game would round up in the ui (the percentage and output number in the bottom) but on the top it would show the 4 decimals I put

[hard ivy]

The game saves and uses clock speed in the bottom left. That's always rounded to 4 decimal places. So 33 1/3 is 33.3333 exactly. 0.0000(3)% off. If you put in 33.3333 in every single machine, you'll still be off. But if you put in 33.3334 into 1/3 of them, you'll have 33 1/3 exactly between all of them

That's why I said that if you're schizo about 100% uptime, you should round things yourself, some up, some down

Hmm you could write a program where you give it your desired sum clock speed and number of machines, and it spits out what clocks you should give to individual machines for the best approximation

It'd be pretty easy to even solve it analytically if you only allow ±0.0001%

[lost wagon]

Or I could just mod the game to fake show the efficiency

Reminds me of that story of the dude that made a game and the publisher kept telling him to increase the performance to hit 30 frames or something like that because his game was only hitting 20, he changed the fps counter in the game to show fps+10

[boreal musk]

i tried my best not to care about efficiency meter, bcs all of my machines just go 98% for no fucking reason and it almost made me infuriated

[hard ivy]

Hoverpack + power switches?

[boreal musk]

none of them were used

just walking through the factory in foot

and they goes idle for 1 second

literally all of them

[hard ivy]

You don't need to be flying for the Hoverpack bug to manifest

[boreal musk]

happens like multiple time now

[hard ivy]

Just having it equipped is enough

[boreal musk]

no, i dont equip the hover pack

i always use jetpack most of the time

no power switch either

[hard ivy]

And all machines go idle at once?

[boreal musk]

yes

all of them at once

[hard ivy]

Any mods?

[boreal musk]

nope

[hard ivy]

Because I really am not aware of any other bug that could cause that

[boreal musk]

i also have no idea how is this happen as well

it just randomly happens

[cunning glade]

hey chat im crashing like every 2-3 mins any idea on how too fix this wasnt an issue before now it is

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000108

think thats the main error i could be wrong

[scenic mirage]

would yall use sloops on oscillators? no space in my factory for more manufacturers but im not making enough crystal oscillators for computers and radio control units, maybe even more down the line

[spark sky]

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever found and tamed all the lizzard doggos? If so, how many are there in the game?

[fluid sapphire]

crystal oscillators? not worth it at all imo

[hard ivy]

Do you have perfectly load balanced reactors or augmenters?

I'm grasping at straws here tbh

[scenic mirage]

damn idek what to do then lmao

[hard ivy]

Build more

Or don't use them for computers

[fluid sapphire]

make them elsewhere and transport them in?

its such a low tier material to use sloops on

[silk ocean]

Probably need more info than that from the crash reporter, is it related to say "dxgi"

[scenic mirage]

i did just get trains setup so maybe rubber alt, i have way more than enough circuit boards and quickwire

[cunning glade]

is there a file i can send

[scenic mirage]

damn my lack of planning rlly coming around to bite me in the ass rn 😭 spaghetti conveyors everywhere

[ripe elm]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Eke44MFCLpBzM77pYB8u what can i do with the water

[fluid sapphire]

it sounds like you are trying to make a lot of things in one location

[silk ocean]

I'd probably just #open-a-ticket perhaps, I'm not an expert on this, just did some googling

In the crash reporter after that, have a read through and google if there is any additional info

[limpid cairn]

open #1038092680493801533 forum with the error

[silk ocean]

Ah, better option xD

[boreal musk]

i do use load balancer

[limpid cairn]

the ticket option is mainly for the discord support

[silk ocean]

Gotcha

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

just a little

[fluid sapphire]

my adhd brain could never navigate something like that xd

[scenic mirage]

it made sense to me while building but it just got more and more convoluted, adhd a mf

now i just wanna redo it all lmao

[hard ivy]

The idea I have is that the reactors or w/e run out of fuel for literally like 1 frame, and it's long enough to idle machines but not long enough to cause the breaker to trip.

I have no clue if this is at all possible but it's my only idea

[cunning glade]

Why does vulkan preform so much worse holy

[hard ivy]

My ADHD brain builds factories exactly like that

Well, that but with a lot of clipping

[fluid sapphire]

i split everything into as small a module as i can

[cunning glade]

Vulkan seems too have fixed my crashing

But I'm at half the fps I was

Less than half I'm getting like a ⅓ of what I was getting

I'm down too 90 this is unplayable

Why is dx12 so good the real question

[limpid cairn]

i assume youre on windows?

since the dx12 api is for windows from microsoft so ill run better on windows

[cunning glade]

I see

[limpid cairn]

idk what company made vulkan but iirc its like the only api for linux

besides opengl

[silk ocean]

OpenGL isn't it?

[cunning glade]

I went from 240ish too 90 fps

Dx11 only gave me 130 still

I think it's fixed

I'm not crashing and it's been 2 mins

I'm back on dx12

[silk ocean]

Ah seems Android adopted Vulkan to replace OpenGL according to the AI at least xD

[limpid cairn]

no clue

[cunning glade]

Think this game will get fsr4 support?

Would be nice the current one isn't that good

[silk ocean]

try DLSS in the meanwhile perhaps?

if you're nvidia I guess

[cunning glade]

I am not

It's tempting but just don't worth

Only reason for a 5090 would be cyberpunk path tracing

Which is tempting but just gonna wait for next gen amd I think

[silk ocean]

5090 is kinda way top end xD

[unreal sand]

Hello

[shy mulch]

5090 is way overboard for most normal users

[left sluice]

Hey hey, im trying to search for information on if Satisfactory will be on PS+, but i cant really find a answer anywhere. Could someone tell me if it will be on PS+? Or if that is known yet ?

[silk ocean]

A quick google on wiki.gg says "The release date is currently slated for November 4, 2025" but I have no idea if that is correct, I am not a console bod

[left sluice]

Yeah November 4th is correct, but im just wondering if it will be on PS+

(PS+ is the subscription stuff from Playstation)

[silk ocean]

Ah right, no idea sorry xD

[left sluice]

xD

[limpid cairn]

No clue if it will be in ps+ directly but my guess is that it’ll be in there at some point

[left sluice]

Alright 👍

[limpid cairn]

Tbf i dont think you’ll need ps+ for the game

To play multiplayer

[left sluice]

You probably will, since every game that is multiplayer needs PS+ sadly

Singleplayer im very sure wont need ps+

[silk ocean]

In PC land the concept of needing a subscription to do multiplayer is kinda wild

You can't just direct connect to a leased game server or a LAN server or something?

[left sluice]

Yeah i know, i have a laptop where i play games on aswell, but the game will most likely run way better on the PS5 then my laptop

[silk ocean]

Oh yeah a PS5 probably beats most laptops, they are generally not good for gaming unless fairly high end with a GPU etc

[left sluice]

I got a RTX 2050 and a I5 12450 in here. So pretty decent, but definetly not good i would say

[silk ocean]

2050 is like bottom of the range on a 3 generation old silion give or take

[left sluice]

Yep

It can run most games i play decently, sadly not Helldivers 2 though. Used to be able to run it just fine but then something happend with the optimization and now i barely get a stable 30 on lowest settings :/

For context, In December i used to get 60 FPS stable on medium settings

[silk ocean]

Some graphics settings changed?

[left sluice]

Nope, its mostly the optimization ingame that got screwed over or something and hasnt been fixed since.

Every fix they did only made it worse for me sadly.

[peak wasp]

I got a 7800xt the game runs perfectly

[left sluice]

Dont know alot about AMD so dont know if thats comparable to my GPU ;)

[silk ocean]

Often the laptop variants are a kinda "lite" version of the desktop one, especially if it's like a RTX 2050 Mobile

[left sluice]

Yeah that too, If i remember correctly a Desktop 1660 is a bit better then the Laptop 2050.

[gusty bronze]

all gpus are equal in the eyes of 1337, you simply need to soder more capacitors on it

[silk ocean]

My laptop actually does have a 1660 Mobile version. It's fairly weak really. Runs older games fine, does a good job but nothing that blows my mind xD

[limpid cairn]

That’s because the company’s don’t loose money while producing the console 😂

[left sluice]

Yep, but im talking about the Desktop version of it ;)

But hey im happy with what i got lol, used to have a 940 or a 960 GTX before this

[limpid cairn]

Im pretty sure Xbox PlayStation etc loose money when producing a console

Thats why they use gamepasses or an subscription for multiplayer

[silk ocean]

Guess it's a bit like printers / ink xD

[limpid cairn]

It is

[silk ocean]

Get people in, then earn money on subscriptions etc

[cunning glade]

Only upgrade for me have a 7900xtx

But 5090 would give me worse fps in my main game so isn't worth

[limpid cairn]

Is there actually a point in buying high end gpus unless you’re rendering a bunch of stuff ?

[silk ocean]

How can a 5090 give you worse FPS? xD

[limpid cairn]

Like why buy a 5090 when you’re just a casual gamer

[cunning glade]

4k ye

[limpid cairn]

Game doesn’t use dls

Or the frame generation things from the 50 series

[silk ocean]

You don't need DLSS when you're rocking a 5090 lolz

[cunning glade]

4k 165hz isn't easy too hit my 7900xtx does it quite well for most games tho

[cunning glade]

Funny part is u do

Only way path tracing is possible iirc

[cunning glade]

Yeah this plus the fact I can just turn on a driver setting and double my fps

[silk ocean]

I can't remember tbh, would have to take your word on that xD

[peak wasp]

I went AMD instead of Intel/NVIDIA for once. Every build I have done was Intel NVIDIA. And makes Linux easier for me

[limpid cairn]

Isnt the 5060 worse than a 1080 ti without dls ?

[cunning glade]

Probs

[peak wasp]

Doubt it

[cunning glade]

Wouldn't surprise me

[limpid cairn]

1080 ti still rocking these days

sadly the support ended 😔

[peak wasp]

Had a 1080ti for so long

Great card

[limpid cairn]

I never had a 1080 ti card

[gusty bronze]

went from 1080ti to 4060ti

[limpid cairn]

Jumped from a 720 to a 3060 ti and soon to a 5080

[cunning glade]

My card before my 7900xtx was a 6900xt

[gusty bronze]

was able to skip all those other versions

[cunning glade]

Funny enough the 7900xtx was cheaper

7900xtx being the cheapest GPU I've bought

By like 400$

That thing value is wild

If u aren't looking at rt

[peak wasp]

The xt plays everything on highest. Great cards

[silk ocean]

Just checked I do have DLSS enabled, No Downscaling, 100 Screen Percentage

can't see a path tracing option, I assume just enabled?

[cunning glade]

How much vram on the 5080

[silk ocean]

Not enough xD 12?

[cunning glade]

I'm running max 4k and getting about 220ish fps most of the time

[cunning glade]

The 5080?

[silk ocean]

is it 12... or 16?

People are always grumbling on reddit

[peak wasp]

Nice I'm.in 2k forgot to add

[cunning glade]

I'd assume 16

[silk ocean]

Ah it's 16 yeah, fair

[cunning glade]

Nivida doesn't like people having more vram

[peak wasp]

Mine is 16 too

[cunning glade]

I'm so glad I don't have 16gb anymore

[peak wasp]

NVIDIA is always a pain on debian

[cunning glade]

No where near enough for 4k

24 sometimes even approaches the limit

With the overclock I can do

The 7900xtx will last till next amd gen

[peak wasp]

I wonder when ai gets more incorporated in games what the demand will be

[cunning glade]

Which is supposed too be massive improvements low key a chance they beat nivida

Which I'm hyped for

We already saw amd can do Ray tracing better than nivida

[verbal yoke]

how do you change the size of the in-game notes? fsr it's now only big enough for 1 letter per line

[cunning glade]

And there isn't even a high end amd card this gen

Next gen is rumored too have 2x and 4x better ai and rt preformace

[silk ocean]

The nvidia overlay doesn't show you mem util.... wot xD

[cunning glade]

Idk which is which

Why would u yk like wanna see me utl

Here I am mad amd doesn't show over 110c anymore

Bro can't even see his mem utl

[silk ocean]

You can have like GPV Volts... but seems no tick box for memory XD

[cunning glade]

Wild

[silk ocean]

It's using like 10 gig according to Process Explorer

Should probably fire up GPU-Z

According to GPU-Z it's currently using 7012 MB

Even in main base mem util is 7550 MB

I am skeptical you need more than 16 GB for 4K

(this is basically 4K in Ultra)

[scenic mirage]

im running max everything just 1080p tho, running around 70-72c. got a 5950x and 3090

[cunning glade]

What fps tho

[unkempt blade]

I have the same card model and the heat was waaaay up like that before I turned off the "unlimited" fps setting in satis

[scenic mirage]

uh idk tbh nvidia overlay isnt showing fps for some reason, but it seems fine never have any frame drops

[cunning glade]

Yk I wonder if 6900xt beats 3090 now with afmf2

Ik it was close and I oc mine and it best it depending on the game

[cunning glade]

Like ur seeing those temps?

U shouldn't

I only see those temps when I give my card about 850w

[left sluice]

Looking at the system requirments of Satisfactory i dont even think i can run this game.... Minimum is already mostly over my specs, considering i have laptop specs and not Desktop (Steam tells you desktop specs, not laptop)

[cunning glade]

Amd likes too do the same for this game its wack

Game runs really well tbh

Compared too the alpha

[scenic mirage]

yeah my factory is a mess too

[cunning glade]

Or pre 1.0 or whatever

[unkempt blade]

Yeah exactly, with unlimited FPS it was trying to use all the power. Capped at 100 like my monitor actually supports it's waaaaaay lower

[silk ocean]

Generally always best to vsync/gsync

No point rendering frames you can't see + you get tearing potentially

You're just wasting power, and generating more heat (assuming unlimited is generating frames above your monitor refresh rate)

[scenic mirage]

can a freight platform only load/unload one freight car

[cunning glade]

Imo it feels smoother and better and would help ur 1% lows no?

[silk ocean]

There are some benefits to unlimited frames yeah, depends really well the particular game handles it historically I have found

[cunning glade]

I see

[silk ocean]

Satis seems to handle vsync on my PC perfectly

[cunning glade]

Yeah I'm 4k i just let my GPU run max I never use vsync vsync bad

[silk ocean]

I've played some games in the past where vsync has been a stuttery mess, so I just disabled it

[limpid cairn]

Most likely 16 but if I get my hands on gddr7 chips I’m salvaging them on the 5080

[frail sleet]

Higher framerates decrease latency and improve smoothness, independent of the monitor refresh rate

[cunning glade]

I still wanna cap mod my vram before I put it on water

Should allow me 3ghz mem speed with fast timings

[silk ocean]

True, if you're like a eSports or FPS player.. Not really useful in Satisfac to have 10ms or 7ms frame latency imo xD

I'd rather save those 150W and 15C xD

Can't argue about the smoothness tho, that is mostly true

[unreal sand]

Satisfactory is making me anxious lol

[limpid cairn]

you need low latency to kill the huge radioactive spiders that are jumping you

[silk ocean]

XD

[unreal sand]

Explosives

[worldly cove]

I am doing around 240fps/DLAA+FG on 4K and I still die to those stupid cats, so i think it doesn't matter as much on latency

[bronze dagger]

Problem with vsync is it makes rhe frame rate half of your refresh rate. If you got a 144 hz monitor and turn it on then boom you’re not getting above 72

I got a 165 hz monitor and I like to set my cap at 165 usually

[worldly cove]

if vsync is implemented properly that shou;ld not be the case, that's why I use RTSS to cap it properly instead of relying of vsync in games

[silk ocean]

It makes it half if it can't hit the target

The clue is in the name - vertical synchronization

[bronze dagger]

Well RTSS is just a better system overall anyway

[worldly cove]

without RTSS i am doing 302~340fps, with vsync i am doing 120fps

[silk ocean]

If it can't achieve 1.0, next option is 0.5

[worldly cove]

yes, the higher your monitor's refresh rate, the higher the impact

[bronze dagger]

Yeah but what’s your refresh rate if your monitor

[silk ocean]

And yes, the higher the monitor refresh, the harder to hit target

[worldly cove]

4k 240Hz

[silk ocean]

Even unlimited you probably can't hit 240 FPS

[worldly cove]

im using 4x 321URX

[bronze dagger]

Then you’re only visualizing 240 fps. Your regenerating almost 100 fps more than needed

But like. 5090?

[worldly cove]

yes, that's why i am capping it to 240 in RTSS

[true swallow]

I'm playing in 2160x7680.. works pretty well

[worldly cove]

yes, 5090 x2

[bronze dagger]

BRUH

give me one 😭

[worldly cove]

i can;'t even max out the card, because 2nd slot is only 8x

[bronze dagger]

The fact that you even found 2 of them is more impressive than the price of 2

[worldly cove]

i had them for a while

since launch

[spice patio]

And what is the actual use for the second one?
As no current game can use it at all?

[worldly cove]

i still got the new blackwell yet to open

[worldly cove]

oh sorry i wasn't clear, it's two systems

[bronze dagger]

I got a 4080 super and play on 3340x1440p. Usually hit my 165 target always

[unreal sand]

I play on a thinkpad E15 gen 5

[worldly cove]

i do occasionally play at 5760x3240 at around 120fps

[silk ocean]

If you're in Unlimited and you can't hit your target, all you are gonna get is tearing

Depending how noticeable that is, you might just prefer vsync at 0.5, which 120fps is still fine imo

[worldly cove]

even if hitting, you might still tear, game's implementation of removing tearing is half ass as best

[silk ocean]

It would have to be magically exactly 240

[worldly cove]

I'd rather play at 120 with no tearing

[silk ocean]

Same xD

[worldly cove]

i do hit 240 static with frame gen, but.. ugh.

also i do not play with VRR.

[spice patio]

No game has anything to remove tearing.
Except with VSync or variable refresh rate, both which are driver level things that game just triggers.

[silk ocean]

I find framegen to be stuttery/weird in most games I have tried

Maybe just me XD

It would also be nice if framegen would just hit the target, but it doesn't seem to obey vsync and just blows way through the refresh rate

at least in my experience

[neat narwhal]

Im just waiting for the ps5 release

Is there an estimated price yet

[worldly cove]

at original frames higher than 120 it is nice to have DLFG on (i find it much harder to see fake frames at that generation base)

(and also it helps to only do 2x instead of 3/4x)

[silk ocean]

I should try that, I think Horizon Forbidden West might support, should give it a try at some point xD

[worldly cove]

at times i also use LSFG rather than DLFG, it looked better and smoother at some point

[silk ocean]

Yea I guess lossless in theory should look better

[worldly cove]

from my experince your statment is 100% true if the frame gaps are not large. if it is, you see artifacts everywhere and it's horrible

so, it's sort of like doing AI photo generations, your mileage may vary and you may see horrible results lol

[worldly cove]

E15, does it have like a A4000 or something?

ah, no it's UHD intel..

[unreal sand]

No it’s an amd

[naive scroll]

so someone here was not sure if researching hard drives at p2 would unlock p3 recipes; for info, i mean, if you rescan drives at p3 while having them unlocked at p2: it works. i searched a drive at P2 and rescanned during P3 and it now gives me P3 recipes 🙂

[worldly cove]

Oh at least a better integrated graphics

[unreal sand]

Mhm

It works great

[worldly cove]

until you build supercompact factories 😄

[unreal sand]

You fool I’ll never do that

[worldly cove]

Oh so you're one of those stuck at low tier with only portable miners 😄

j/k 🤣

but the game is surprisingly playable at 30fps imo unless you have a lot of fast reaction things going on (hyper tube jumping, cable hopping, etc) but then it's still quite manageable

[hexed phoenix]

I wouldn't like to meet 2-3 of them Green Spiders at 30fps having to fight them off :D

[worldly cove]

lol

[quasi frigate]

just trying hypertube cannon for the first time, they seem quite expensive at this point in time, using coal gen power, flew over to desert, setting up coal gens in desert near water and mined and pulled over coal nearby to keep it going, and its like a bunch of coal gens, just to build a strong enough one to fly back over to grassy field where I started
BUT I am loving the hypertubes and hypertube cannons

[worldly cove]

for faraway coal mines i usually pull a long ass mk1 pole all the way and zip line back and forth

and by the 2nd coal mine i had enough resources to just hypertube everywhere

[quasi frigate]

well I mean, to power a bunch of entrances for hypertube, it took like, 5 coal gens I think? to power the water extractors + the entrances

[worldly cove]

(oh and stacking tubes to shoot yourself out like a meatball canon is fun)

[quasi frigate]

yeah super fun haha

[worldly cove]

ah. I have batteries for that, and i usuallystay at one site for hours to set factories up, so the batteries are charged

[quasi frigate]

ah, how do batteries work? haven't gotten to them yet, store a bunch of power? do you just, disable the hypertubes and enable when using them or what?

[worldly cove]

yeah, if you know the concept of a UPS, it works exactly like that

you can daisy chain them to stack as well (there is no serial/parallel concept)

[quasi frigate]

yes makes sense, but how does that help your hypertubes? just have extra battery power, for when you use it, so you dont need as much OVERALL power or something?

just for hypertubes

[worldly cove]

yeah, so it doesn't yank out all the juice and all machines go down

[quasi frigate]

ah ok I'll keep that in mind

[worldly cove]

i hate power trips and having to find the culprit (my factories are not optimized so they fluctuate a lot in power consumption)

[quasi frigate]

yeah makes sense

[leaden turret]

insert joke about toxic employers here

[quasi frigate]

I just didn't want to run all the way up here, but I wanted to start some secondary factories up here, for the first time, never been to desert but always heard it was good, so, hypertubed up, and hypertube building a way back so I can go back and forth easily

[naive scroll]

can someone tell me the best alt recipes i should be fishing for

i got 20 hard drives and i'm at phase 3

[quasi frigate]

fishing in satisfactory would be interesting haha

[naive scroll]

yeah automate fishing xD

just big magnets over the ocean

[worldly cove]

Encased Industrial Pipe: 6 Steel Pipes, 5 Concrete → 1 Encased Industrial Beam (7/min)
Stitched Iron Plate: 10 Iron Plates, 20 Wire → 3 Reinforced Iron Plates (5.625/min)
Iron Wire: 12.5 Iron Ingots → 22.5 Wire (22.5/min)
Cast Screw: 6.25 Iron Ingots → 25 Screws (50/min)
Solid Steel Ingot: 2 Iron Ore, 2 Coal → 3 Steel Ingots (45/min)
Steel Rotor: 5 Steel Pipes, 25 Wire → 2 Rotors (10/min)
Diluted Packaged Fuel: 1 Heavy Oil Residue, 2 Packaged Water → 2 Packaged Fuel (30/min)
Copper Rotor: 6 Copper Sheets, 52 Screws → 3 Rotors (22.5/min)
Pure Iron Ingot: 7 Iron Ore, 4 Water → 13 Iron Ingots (39/min)```

[naive scroll]

thank you

[leaden turret]

the fish got removed

[naive scroll]

is that something established? or your list?

[worldly cove]

sadge

[unreal sand]

That’s what I always play at

[worldly cove]

my own, at least i find these more resource-relaxing

[naive scroll]

ok thank you

[noble topaz]

We fished up all the fish before the game was even finished

[naive scroll]

i rushed to crash sites to find 600 plastics

to unlock all the important recipes xD

[worldly cove]

yes, i also do that

[naive scroll]

damn

turns out i did something good... my first playthrough 😄

[worldly cove]

and that makes the exploration part of the game more fun, instead of pulling my hair dealing with manifolds and clipping

[worldly cove]

also you define your fun 🙂

at tier 5/6 i am looking at blueprints online to get ideas on how to do more efficient builds, right now i found a pretty good oil one and working on improving it

and a better motor plant (15/min) while learning more efficient ways to make your own blueprints

[night birch]

Hey i could do with little help please

So decided to try the game out on steam deck, for some reason it won’t let me actually create a new save file on steam deck. I can name it, but there’s no option to commit/save it. I can over write an existing auto save(which I’ve been using for manual saving), but for some reason no option to actually create fresh one?

[worldly cove]

hit enter

[naive scroll]

didnt get any of these

[worldly cove]

then hold on to them and find the next drive, so that what you already have doesn't get back into the pool

i always keep useless recipes after scanned drives so i dont bump into them again if i scan a new drive

[night birch]

Nothing happens

[worldly cove]

ooh a dankpods fella, rare these days

[noble topaz]

Idk if I should change it for something else

[worldly cove]

they missed the chance to call it pukcell server

[noble topaz]

They also have the other channel's stuff

Garbage time, car thing, drum thing

[worldly cove]

nice

[ripe elm]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Eke44MFCLpBzM77pYB8u anyone that has a idea for the recycling?

[reef basin]

that depends on how you define "best"

each recipe has some advantage and it depends on you what do you prefer. Some recipes make production simpler, some remove some ingredient or raw resource, some make more per raw resource, some make more per space or power, etc.

[worldly cove]

if you are at mark 2 belts, i would do 24/min

[hard ivy]

split into 5 separate setups and use a VIP for each

[ripe elm]

VIP?

[reef basin]

split fresh and byproduct water

e.g. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1397218790122590208/image.png?ex=68afba26&is=68ae68a6&hm=117ca02f8f90b303894f101ad21e197ba4a09850490d14b0d9665db506387470&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=656&height=927

[hard ivy]

variable input priority junction

it's in the plumbing manual in #math-and-meta pins

[reef basin]

(and is seen as black magic and sometimes not even reliable)

[ripe elm]

could you maybe make a simple drwing for my setup

[hard ivy]

mine are always reliable 🤷‍♂️

[rustic hare]

I use headlift reset for the clean water intake, then make a water tower

w/o headlift, the pump cannot push up the water tower so it'll stop pumping

[reef basin]

why all these werid solutions

[ripe elm]

im not even following it anymore

hoped for a simple solution

[hard ivy]

there isn't one

[reef basin]

I posted one

you split fresh and byproduct water. No need for any special things. Just build https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1397218790122590208/image.png?ex=68afba26&is=68ae68a6&hm=117ca02f8f90b303894f101ad21e197ba4a09850490d14b0d9665db506387470&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=656&height=927

[rustic hare]

maybe.. because solving problems in unorthodox ways is a hobby

[ripe elm]

wait lemme post screenshot of my bild currently

[shy mulch]

That seems more complicated to me. I recently set up a new factory making 3825/min aluminum ingots, with VIP junctions for the water, and it worked perfectly first time and is fully reliable

[reef basin]

given that even McGalleon doesn't recommend them... I won't either

[rustic hare]

I wish I could understand how VIP junctions work

[hard ivy]

yeah, I just loaded my old 1.0 save where I used the split strategy to test some things for the pipecord and the split water setup was broken before I even messed with any of the pipes

[reef basin]

(and if we get the pipe fixes, VIPs may just stop working)

[hard ivy]

Idk when it broke, but it did

[sick dragon]

So does Mcgalleon 😛

[hard ivy]

pretty sure he might actually understand them now

[ripe elm]

mentioned you in design

[sick dragon]

Last i heard even he couldn't figure out why they worked

[hard ivy]

they found a new bug recently

[rustic hare]

like placing pipes at specific heights with a junction to prioritize doesn't make sense for my brain

[sick dragon]

Its basically because of how junctions apparently work when placed vertically

But no basis in irl physics that I know of

[rustic hare]

so you tell me junctions go fucky wucky when placed vertically?

[hard ivy]

*when placed not horizontally

[worldly cove]

it has its caveats

i'd rather do horizontal and hide spaghetti in concrete

[unkempt blade]

it's just going to prioritize the pipe closer to the ground if there's a branch

[rustic hare]

imagine they throw in real fluid physics simulation just to fix pipe problems not sure if it's worth the cpu usage

[hard ivy]

they already used an irl flow equation somewhere in there

[ripe elm]

could anyone help with this and my build in #design-and-architecture

[sick dragon]

I mean what exactly are you trying to accomplish

[shy mulch]

So many people have used this method and rely on it, changing or 'fixing' it at this stage would be on a par with moving some resource nodes. It's just not going to happen in a non-beta game

[ripe elm]

to finish this build

[sick dragon]

How so?

[ripe elm]

what do you mean?

[sick dragon]

Finish it how? All im gonna say is place machines and let er rip

[ripe elm]

thing is im struggling with recycling the watert

[sick dragon]

Unless you wondering how to approach water recycling?

[shy mulch]

Today's prize for least specific question goes to @ripe elm

[ripe elm]

yeah sorry ahd to say it was about the recycling

[hard ivy]

VIP is the most reliable method I've ever used tbh

[sick dragon]

There is classic vip junction we were discussing. I have also done it with valves. Alternatively you can forego recycling and say put it into wet concrete refineries and sink the concrete

[noble topaz]

Water byproducts?

[ripe elm]

just dfont know ho to make it

[sick dragon]

What's the command for the pipes guide

Meh it's in the welcome channel

[shy mulch]

the guide is linked in the pinned comment in #math-and-meta

[sick dragon]

Read that guide and it has a section on vip junctions and how to make em. Super simple to make

[white dawn]

I always recommend just keeping the fresh + recycled fluids in totally-separate pipe systems. So in the plan you shared, you'd have 6 refineries running off of fresh water (1200/min) and then 9 refineries running off of recycled (1800/min)

It'll be easier to deal with if you do it in smaller "modules" since you're well over individual pipe limits there, of course

[shy mulch]

The dude who wrote the guide says they are magic and can't be explained and doesn't reccomend them any more. But honestly for me it's the simplest and most reliable method

[ripe elm]

yeah i thoughtof that

[white dawn]

(Which might mean having to underclock some things)

[ripe elm]

didnt know if that would work

[white dawn]

Yeah, IMO that's the most reliable way of doing it, and the way which requires the least debugging if anything goes wrong

[hard ivy]

I thought it would, but apparently not. tried it once, worked for a while, then broke

[sick dragon]

It would just may take some time to spin up since the first refineries have to get working to then allow the waste refineries to start working

[white dawn]

The main thing to keep in mind when you keep 'em separate is that it'll be very helpful to pre-flood the "recycled" pipes (and your Sloppy Alumina input buffers) before turning things fully on, so you'd want to hook those up to fresh water first and then disconnect once they're full

[ripe elm]

so i would just input 1200 water int 6 refineries and the waste into the left over machines?

[ripe elm]

should i need alumina buffers?

[white dawn]

Examples of a couple of systems doing that, though I don't have an image for Sloppy + vanilla Scrap: #math-and-meta message

[white dawn]

No, avoid buffers

[ripe elm]

alright

[sick dragon]

Which do you think is better given your current situation?

[ripe elm]

could you check my design in #design-and-architecture i have made liek a simple thing for the first chines

[sick dragon]

You telling me it's harder to make rods and screws than steel beams / pipes and concrete?

[shy mulch]

I have 1 refinery taking 200 bauxite and 200 water and makes 240 alumina solution

Then 1 refinery above it taking that 240 alumina solution and adding 120 coal, making 360 scrap and 120 water

Feed the water back down into a VIP junction, so the 2-refinery system only needs 80 water coming in

As a closed system it works perfectly and is reliable, and you can scale it by simply repeating it

I have 17 of these in a row, there was absolutely nothing complicated about it

[shrewd pelican]

guys i have a quick question: in the #1201555265942724758 when people say they will join, how do i invite them to the server?

[sick dragon]

Its all about what you are interested in. Each has upsides and downsides. Imo the default is better since crystal oscillators i consider more difficult to make than beams

[sick dragon]

You need to provide them the server ip and port

[shrewd pelican]

ah ok thx!

[worldly cove]

or epic game session

[white dawn]

Nah, I've already procrastinated enough today with work stuff; gotta get going on that. Good luck!

[ripe elm]

thats really smart but for my like building im making them having each above each other isnt handy

[sick dragon]

I wanted to take advantage of my radio control units farm for super computers bur decided the needed aluminum wasn't worth it

[shy mulch]

If you want to put them beside each other that's fine too. Raise the VIP input and put a pump on it before you feed it into the junction, job done

[mystic oriole]

did the dev's secretly remove radioactive waste from spawning from the lizard doggo?

[hard ivy]

pretty sure it got removed from the pool in 1.0, yeah

[mystic oriole]

I totally missed that nugget

I'm going to have to rethink my lizard dogo pen.

[sick dragon]

You were making a doggo pen with the intent to get nuclear waste? O.o

[hard ivy]

kinda sad they removed it

it was funny

[mystic oriole]

it was funny.

[hard ivy]

now they bring you nukes

not sure if they did before

[sick dragon]

Far as I know they did

Got em in u8 at least

I do love when my pet casually brings me WMDs at work

[mystic oriole]

Yup, I love that too. I should get a lizard doggo for work to just stay with me.

[topaz shale]

I think I finally pinned down on all the alt recipes I'll be needing to use for my phase 4 factory. I think I still need like 8 more alts before I get them all. This phase is definitely going to take the longest out of the others.

[silk ocean]

Each progressive phase usually takes longer than the previous xD

at least for a peasant like me

[shy mulch]

yeah it's a bit of effort needed for that one

[shy mulch]

that's how it should be 🙂

[topaz shale]

Especially since I'm building one massive facility just for making all of the phase 4 parts. Each part is made from just one machine.

[silk ocean]

Yea added work but should be nice

[topaz shale]

All in all, won't really take as much as I was thinking. The factoriolab website is very handy to just show me exactly how much of each item I'll be needing since I'm building using a modular set up.

[silk ocean]

tis a useful site yea

[topaz shale]

I'm very interested to see what the final factory is going to look like.

[topaz shale]

It does save me on time instead of having to comb through the other factory visualizers. Just straight to the point and useful in this situation.

[coral sundial]

Hello

[silk ocean]

I am procrastinating over the build of my blended turbofuel powerplant

[shy mulch]

DId someone say procrastinating

[silk ocean]

Yes my Lord

[dense dagger]

I just found out the amount of oil that is present just east of rocky desert, like on the shore area + near the bauxite mountain and the lake. Dont know what to do with all that oil lol

Time to make mega power generator + rubber + plastic plant

[shy mulch]

Make it into petroleum coke, then into diamonds, good source for making dark matter crystals

[dense dagger]

Yeah still going into phase 4 I should save them then until then nice

I'll use the ones on the shore east of desert and south of desert for rubber and plastic each and the ones inside can leave for future nice

[shy mulch]

You can make diamonds with just coal, but it uses a lot, especially if you want to make a lot of diamonds. Petroleum coke seems to me to be quite an efficient way of getting big numbers of diamonds

[dense dagger]

Alright, I have just been rebuilding a lot of my primary factories for better productivity, was going to do the whole electronics factory again but then went into the crude oil hunt and found way too many lol

[shy mulch]

There's loads of crude oil around, no need to use it sparingly unless you're planning to go proper massive production

[quick verge]

How do you guys align conveyor lift holes, is there a trick I dont know? They always seem just slightly off. Ive tried placing the hole first and placing the lift then the hole around it, neither seem to work very well

[shy mulch]

It becomes easy once you've done it a few times, second nature. Always place the hole first.
If you are struggling for position, temporarily make a lift clipping straight through the foundation, then nudge the hole into place where the lift is, then delete the temporary lift and make a proper one that plugs into the hole

[next pike]

I swear I did everything possible before realizing encased industrial beams are on the tier thing instead of mam research

[coral sundial]

Where can I learn about basic setups and stuff, I’m just kinda figuring out how to setup a smelting and power operation

[next pike]

I automated steel, quartz, caterium and did a lot of exploration

[coral sundial]

Also collecting biofuel takes so long lol

[next pike]

you don't really need organization at the start, just figure it out

[coarse willow]

whewn is 1.2 coming

[shy mulch]

Honestly the best way is to figure it out yourself first, then only seek help if you have a problem you can't solve. If you seek guidance from the very start, you'll never get into the mindset needed to solve much more complex logistics later in the game

For smelting, place a miner on a node, place a smelter somewhere near it, run a conveyer belt between them, done

[coral sundial]

What I struggle with rn is scaling, like I end up making a setup and realizing I don’t have nearly enough iron rod coming in and then my whole setup is bad because I’m only making one rotor a minute or something

I have a setup with splitters and mergers and like 10 smelters rn for iron

[reef basin]

we don't even know if it's coming

[coarse willow]

nity of ot sis when will it come

plaese

[hard ivy]

we might find out in 2 days

[reef basin]

I'm not sure I understand this message 🤔

[hard ivy]

I don't

[coarse willow]

what about 3

[coarse willow]

*but if it does when will it come

[hard ivy]

why would it be 3

it's wednesday

[coarse willow]

why woud lit be 2

[hard ivy]

they normally release videos on fridays

[coarse willow]

okay

[hard ivy]

and I'm pretty sure they said there would be one this friday

[reef basin]

since we don't know if it will ever come, we can't know when would it come if it was a thing lol

[wary vessel]

beware of the man who speaks in whatever that was

🔥

[coarse willow]

et anglicus

[wary vessel]

[hard ivy]

if 1.2 is going to be a thing, I'd expect the stable release to happen in like 8-12 months from now

experimental 3-6 months earlier

[coarse willow]

and ex

thanks

[reef basin]

depends how much console throws a wrench in it

[coarse willow]

i think itse sad that they made it to console but not vr wheni asked for it 3 years ago

hat colors go well with pink

[white dawn]

They've said in the past that basically nobody at CSS really cares about VR, so that's just not really been a priority ever

Though that was awhile ago; if they've got some newer people in who are passionate about VR, it could maybe happen in the future

At a smaller studio like CSS, you often need some folks who are keen to do stuff like that, to get it done

[coarse willow]

okay 👍

[reef basin]

also I don't think SF is a good VR game

[coarse willow]

i do

[worldly cove]

street fighter in VR? sounds like cameraman hell

[reef basin]

VR just isn't for games you spend 10 hours daily in

[worldly cove]

until one day those VR goggles are as light as glasses, maybe

[reef basin]

that's like 1/100th of the problem

[worldly cove]

also when your whole eyeball is submerged in a constantly updating context of a game, you'd burn out your synapses

skill issue

[rigid glen]

I'd prefer a highspeed data port behind my right ear

[grand lagoon]

real fast: why is no session ID appearing when I open up my session manager? It says copy to clipboard but the space above is empty

[reef basin]

they run out of session IDs, try again next year

[split trench]

Maybe you are playing singleplayer?

[worldly cove]

Manage Session > Session Settings > Player Count: 1/0 ?

[winged glen]

are there still flow rate issues with full Mk2 pipes? coming back after a long break

[wanton oracle]

Does anybody know if there's a way for me to rollback my satisfactory 1.1 to 1.0

[rigid glen]

595 seems to the functional limit

[willow glen]

Same as before, if you have any backflow you can’t average 600 m3/min

[rigid glen]

but I don't think there are any newish issues, there is a fluid guide on the server you can skim over

[willow glen]

just how math works

[spice patio]

If you own the game on Steam, yes.
#1382670121952350220 message

[wanton oracle]

yes i do

[winged glen]

I assume this is the same with Mk1 pipes then as well, any backflow prevents 300/m

[reef basin]

never were

it's always a build issue

[winged glen]

that info on the backflow is making me realize that now

[willow glen]

fwiw I just pretend they max at 90% their stated capacity (excluding oil extractors), and I don’t have issues, but I also manifold everything and expect a little sloshing

[rigid glen]

I really don't run into a backflow issue very much

tbf

[sterile blade]

Depending on how you like to design things, you might never have issues
Eg: simmetry in pipework (or at least some sections of it) can greatly help

[sullen gull]

Understatement of the year 😏

[sterile blade]

What do you mean?

[rigid glen]

I like to over engineer a solution when needed 🙂 sometimes that's extra pump(s) or a tower etc

[willow glen]

notably the “loop the pipe” suggestion for flow rate issues is just a suggestion to split the pipe in disguise. If you manifold, try to input in the middle of the manifold instead of at the end - that achieves the same effect without a loop

[winged glen]

reading the fluid guide, so the solution to full mk2 manifolds is to loop the end back into the first junction?

[willow glen]

which I just commented on lol

[winged glen]

yeah lol, I was too slow I guess

[coral sundial]

I have a problem with satisfactory

[worldly cove]

I have more

[coral sundial]

I can’t stop playing it, big problem 😭

[rigid glen]

Join the club

[worldly cove]

everyone's been in that stage

[coral sundial]

I bought it yesterday and I gave 10 hours already lol

All I can do is think about my setup

[worldly cove]

i bought it one week i had 100 hours.

I know the pain

You know you're an addict when you start joining discord about a game

[coral sundial]

I’m thinking about rn how to get rods and plates to my combiners for the other stuff, I think doing 2 tracks one on top of the other is the best t

Thoughts on that

[worldly cove]

there are calculators to do that

[coral sundial]

No I jsut mean like the physical setup

[worldly cove]

that's fine if you dont want clipping

i would do conveyor LIFT to raise them rather than spaghetti raise them with just conveyor belts

[coral sundial]

Ohhh that’s a good idea

I’m trying to figure out the best setup for things tbh

It’s hard to figure out how much stuff I need sent in

[worldly cove]

that becomes your daily struggle for the rest of the game until one day you will just relax and sip coffee

[coral sundial]

Also do most of you do flat builds? I’m running out of space lol

[hot panther]

What was the 91,8kb steam DL for today? can't find any info about it.

[feral geyser]

I do floors. Raws on the ground, get cooked in smelters, ingots move up a floor to machines, parts from those move up a floor to assemblers, etc

[coral sundial]

How do you make higher floors?

[feral geyser]

Unless I'm working with fluids, in which case, I pump raw fluids to the top of the building, and let any output fluid flow down.

[feral geyser]

Make some walls on an existing foundation, then build foundations off that wall.

[coral sundial]

And to get stuff up use the elevators? And put them outside? Or

[feral geyser]

Then you can use ramps to connect floors, until you get elevators

[coral sundial]

I have elevators yes

[feral geyser]

Not conveyor lifts

[coral sundial]

Oh I have conveyer lifts

[feral geyser]

Those are good for items yes, but i mean for yourself

[coral sundial]

The ramps u need like 3 of them to go up one floor right?

[feral geyser]

There are also ladders and catwalk and other stuff available in the awesome shop.

[feral geyser]

I make my floors 5 wall segments high, but that's up to you and your design requirements.

[coral sundial]

That’s huge omg

[feral geyser]

Yes it is

[coral sundial]

Why so big

[feral geyser]

But it leaves me space to do logistics. The belts for the machines on the next floor up, are on the ceiling.

[coral sundial]

Ohhh I see

[feral geyser]

Then they lift through the floor into the next set of machines.

[coral sundial]

All
My stuff is basically just outdoors rn

On one floor

[feral geyser]

Yeah, that's how it starts

I usually bum rush Base Building milestone and set up as much concrete as possible first

[coral sundial]

Maybe I build my combiners and stuff on the second floor

I already have the base building

I’m working on tier 2 of the space elevator rn

[feral geyser]

Ah hell yeah

Then yeah, it's about time to start making a building so you can organize more machines.

[coral sundial]

Yeah that makes sense

Should I have more than one line for like rotors and stuff

Making those fancy plates is taking a while

[feral geyser]

Yes, plus you'll need some for yourself, for Assemblers, Foundries, other stuff.

[uncut trail]

guys if any of yall have played is hydroneer good?

[feral geyser]

#off-topic-general

[coral sundial]

So I should have some go into containers too?

[feral geyser]

Yes, not a bad idea

[uncut trail]

i bet youre fun at parties

[coral sundial]

This will take so much space lol

[feral geyser]

If you have smart splitters unlocked, you can have it send overflow rotors from your Smart Plating machines into storage.

[coral sundial]

I don’t yet

I can prob rush that

[feral geyser]

Those are super handy, gotta go find some caterium out there.

[coral sundial]

Alright I’ll search for the cat

[reef basin]

we just like not having spam in channels 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

people who respect the rules of a server surely respect the rules of a party too.

therefore there is a very high possibility that indeed, he is very fun at parties.

Thank you for your time and reading.

[feral geyser]

🫳

[coral sundial]

Pioneer party

[feral geyser]

Pics in #screenshots

[mortal ginkgo]

ironically, you spamming 🤓 around instead of learning from your mistakes, shows that you are actually not fun at parties.

[uncut trail]

let it go bro

[reef basin]

not like it's an insult or anything. I'm a proud nerd

[mortal ginkgo]

ah well, not all pioneers meant to be able to manage phase 1

[uncut trail]

you aint impressing anyone, i js asked simple fucking question had 0 reason to act like a weasel

[mortal ginkgo]

well thanks for confirmation. you really aint fun to have anywhere.

have a doggo

[feral geyser]

alright now kids, let it be

he went to the other channel when asked, that was that

[mortal ginkgo]

but but

[feral geyser]

🤏

[mortal ginkgo]

Fine. I go back to work.

[feral geyser]

and for the record, i don't go to parties.

[mortal ginkgo]

Parties are overrated when there is a factory to grow.

[limpid cairn]

Parties are boring

Unless we all do a lan party and play satisfactory

[feral geyser]

LAN party??

Yeah, 2001 called...

[limpid cairn]

Yes

Lan parties are fun

[feral geyser]

... they just hit the second tower 😳

[limpid cairn]

But tbh lan parties are fun and that’s coming from a new gen (yes I’m born in 2008)

[proud bough]

Dude I was born 2006 and even I don't call them that

[limpid cairn]

so, how do you call them?

[proud bough]

Local gaming parties

Cause it's using the local multiplayer function of a game

[limpid cairn]

lan means local area network btw

[mortal ginkgo]

ty for reminding me my old days of playing Counterstike 1.6 🥹

[placid stirrup]

Why would you ever in a million years use limited vocabulary when in reality, a lengthier and more robust way of describing something is nearly always a more accurate and articulate way of explaining something?

[proud bough]

Bruh I'm not stupid

[proud bough]

How would you do it

[placid stirrup]

Sorry that was like a tier 3 meme

[pine temple]

I know this is an FAQ but where are all the new photo mode screenshots shared now?

[proud bough]

Uhhhh I was just there yesterday

[proud bough]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/

[placid stirrup]

In case you forget again, I usually just open file explorer and where it shows recently added files you can open folder location

[steady glade]

you mean shared here? generally in #screenshots , or #design-and-architecture for more in depth convos,

[proud bough]

Oh did you mean stored or shared

[pine temple]

I mean on my computer

[steady glade]

if you meant stored, press tab and open screenshot folder

[pine temple]

OK, so in game then?

[steady glade]

yes in game in the photo mode

[pine temple]

They changed the directory so I cannot find them navigating around my files

[steady glade]

they added a button to open the folder

[placid stirrup]

Sigh
#satisfactory message

[reef basin]

%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\Screenshots\Windows

[pine temple]

Amazing, I found them

[reef basin]

@void gorge might be worth changing in the FAQ ^ (screenshot location)

[magic yarrow]

am currently working on a blueprint, is there a way to make power pole auto connect to each other from one blueprint to another and also belts

[feral geyser]

Belts yes, cables no

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys listen.

I know some of you guys got the hard drive that haa "heavy encased frames" recipe.

I will ask you to give one to me, kindly.

I really dont want to use the hard way. I hope you understand as much as I do.

You have 2 minutes to think it over.

[magic yarrow]

how would i do it with belts

[rare rivet]

Turns out my issue was a bugged pipe like 500m away that wasn't acting like it was connected to the next pipe on the support, replaced it and problem was fixed. Fml

[limpid cairn]

Only if you pick it up

[mortal ginkgo]

So you choose the hard way. Bold move, pioneer.

[feral geyser]

They should roughly line up with each and have the correct directions within the blueprint, then on auto-connect mode, hold them close to one another (you should see the hologram of belts connecting), click once to confirm connections, then again to place.

[limpid cairn]

Dw bro you’ll get it one day, I was in the same boat for pure copper (I opened legit 20 hard drives for it)

[mortal ginkgo]

ya but I want so many good steel recipes too bro 😭

[limpid cairn]

Open a lot of hard drives, maybe you get both

[willow glen]

In addition: The belt in the blueprint needs to be aimed at the thing you want it to connect to. It won’t extend belts that are outside the blueprint. So, left v right matters.

[woeful gate]

If I have enough power to run my factory... Should I still make nuclear waste for plutonium fuel rods...?

[mortal ginkgo]

problem is when i go for harddrive search, all I will have is a rebar gun.

I really don't wanna do steel before I get the good recipes QQ

but you are right

[limpid cairn]

You have a rebar gun and a dream*

[reef basin]

not sure what you're asking, as there's no "nuclear waste", there's "uranium waste" and "plutonium waste"

[mortal ginkgo]

you can still make plot rods and sink them if you want nuclear power for future

[limpid cairn]

I exterminated the swamp with a basher and a dream.

[mortal ginkgo]

ok I love how you motivate and I think you should be a boss in a company 👍

[woeful gate]

I have uranium fuel rods. But im not using them because it makes waste and I have enough power as-is... But when I do need more power, I'd rather use plutonium fuel rods right? Should I waste my uranium fuel rods just to make waste for the plutonium fuel rods?

[unkempt blade]

you use uranium waste to make plutioum rods so you do both basically