satisfactory

[feral geyser]

I did the recycling loop on the 3 pure veins in the Blue Crater Lake.

[unkempt blade]

smart, those get you good points too - is there anything factory carts aren't great for?

[feral geyser]

So many refineries

So much plastic and rubber

[shy mulch]

for some reason the rubber/plastic feedback mess is the one thing I find hardest to get balanced

[unkempt blade]

it's usually pretty easy with smart splitters, just prioritize the feedback towards recycling and overflow towards storage

[willow glen]

the recycled rubber/plastic loop? How are you balancing it? I usually just use a smart splitter, “overflow” is what’s safe to take, “any” gets recycled. As long as I mind belt limits it works flawlessly

[feral geyser]

Yeah, I made a mistake the first time, but fortunately I had calculated my machine count correctly, so I just had to adjust clocks

[topaz shale]

I think it is time to start using trains. Mainly for moving plastic around.

[shy mulch]

my megafactory required 1500 plastic and 450 rubber, so I built a new facility that outputs 2200 plastic and 1400 rubber, I send what is needed off to the megafactory, send the excess rubber to concrete production, and sink 800 plastic, which I'm sure I'll find a use for at some point

[feral geyser]

It's a bit hard to explain, but basically, machines are staggered and rotated so they can easily feed materials back and forth. They feed the machines next to them and send everything else into overflow.

[feral geyser]

I'll send pics of mine too if I ever get out of bed

I pulled a muscle canoeing yesterday so i'm resting.

[unkempt blade]

I do something like that but with rows of plastic/rubber alternating. The row size is how much the fuel support but half the output for a row goes left towards recycling in the next row and half goes to the right into storage or whatever I'm using it for

[feral geyser]

Ah okay, so your belting/piping is different, but layout is similar.

[unkempt blade]

yeah it just winds up being like 20 refineries in a row for plastic and 20 in a row for rubber or something like that instead so it's just big clumps

[onyx siren]

I used satisfactory calculator to try and make super computers for cheap, but it seems super complex. Any recommendations for other alt recipes I can try?

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_ComputerSuper_C"%3A"6"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_CircuitBoard_2_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_DilutedFuel_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_PureCateriumIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Plastic_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_RecycledRubber_C"]}

[feral geyser]

OC

Most of the other parts are things you'd need for other recipes too

[onyx siren]

I'll take a look

Wow, the production chain got 2x as big, might be too complex for me rn

[tender raft]

try using caterium computer

[hard ivy]

OC is by far the most expensive SC recipe lmao

Terrible recommendation if someone is asking for cheap SCs

[feral geyser]

Oh

Well. I do all my math by hand

So i didn't know that

[hard ivy]

Like triple the bauxite of super-state

[feral geyser]

I guess that makes my factory that makes them even more impressive.

[shy mulch]

cheap and simple are not necessarily the same, often I choose to do a slightly less resource/power-efficient recipe in the interests of keeping it simple

[hard ivy]

SCIM's production planner is a terrible calculator and I suggest you use literally anything else for your calculations

[onyx siren]

Why? Is it inaccurate?

[hard ivy]

Among other things

[shy mulch]

use SF tools for calculating what recipes to use

[hard ivy]

SFTools is the best calculator overall imo

There might be better ones for specific purposes, but if I had to only choose one to use forever, it'd be SFT

[subtle flume]

Dimensional depot still not alphabetical?

[pallid tide]

Steel parts (pipes/beams/encased) -> Transport to satellite factory -> Get right down to business
VS
Steel ingots -> Transport to satellite factory -> Manufacture the last stage of steel parts on site
VS
Coal -> Transport to satellite factory -> Manufacture all stages of steel parts on site

I'm trying to build smaller, more intentional factories to produce a specific thing such as computers or HMF. Where do you all draw the line at pulling in nearby parts vs pulling in nearby resources?

[shy mulch]

Half the recipes it comes out with are truly bonkers though, I usually have to set SAM availability to 0 to have it come out with something reasonable

[willow glen]

I tried out Modeler and I just didn’t find it better for my use case than SFtools, if anything just equal and more tedious

[hard ivy]

For my purposes it's infinitely worse, because I'd have to check every single recipe combination by hand

No thanks

[hard ivy]

I just clone an empty tab with all the conversion recipes disabled (and all screw recipes too lol)

[willow glen]

I always clone my most recent tab so I can keep map limits updated (really only matters in late phase 5 and post game tbh)

[feral geyser]

I draw production trees by hand 😶

I calculate things with an amazing app

Called my brain

[hard ivy]

Yeah, no, I wouldn't dare to optimize my Modded 10TW Ficsonium Plant by hand

[willow glen]

I can do up to RIP in my head, after that I’ll screw something up

[shy mulch]

I can just about manage iron rods

[fluid sapphire]

there is no definite answer to this, everyone does it differently, all these options are valid - for me i only start moving towards the more modular approach later on with more complex products, steel is pretty simple to all make in a single spot

[acoustic heart]

I feel like I’m so close but so far from finishing phase 5 😅

[shy mulch]

If you've fully automated phase 4, then phase 5 is pretty simple
If you hand-fed a lot of phase 4 and made a mess, then phase 5 is going to multiply that mess by 10

[mortal ginkgo]

I swear if I see ONE more 3459830495345+ fuel gen rocket fuel setup in #screenshots

I will flip dem tables. ALL of them.

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, I got everything fully automated for phase 4.

[shy mulch]

I'll post my 600 fuel gens later 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[acoustic heart]

I will admit, it doesn’t seem as bad as phase four. Phase four is rough

[mortal ginkgo]

AT LEAST make it look cool and not some damn foundation up in the sky

[feral geyser]

Be real, how can you make 600 fuel gens look good

[shy mulch]

I did start making it look cool, but then I'd done half of them and got fed up thinking of designs, so built the rest in a big stack hidden behind a waterfall

[dense cave]

if the filtered output is full, and the left output is defined as any, will the filtered object get transported to the left output

[mortal ginkgo]

make them on hexagons going upwards etc

[acoustic heart]

Mine is just a big concrete foundation hanging over the void lol

[mortal ginkgo]

GOD DANGIT BROTHERMAN

[fluid sapphire]

good enough?
#screenshots message

[peak wasp]

ello pioneers!

[shy mulch]

I made a floating barge thing that had 20 fuel gens, dotted 6 of them randomly around the middle of the sea and ran the pipes and power cables along the seabed. Then built my famous "power mushroom" thing, can't even remember how many gens that had on it, something like 184 or there abouts

[mortal ginkgo]

Thank you, it is gud.

[acoustic heart]

But, my rocket fuel factory looks cool. I made it look like a huge oil rig in the middle of the blue crater.

I was just so ready to be done with that project by the end of it I just threw a bunch of concrete down over the void, placed the fuel gens, and called it a day.

[mortal ginkgo]

I just kinda find it cute that most of reddit posts are about pipe issues, train signal issues, and big rocket fuel gen setups.

[acoustic heart]

The only real headache I ran into with this game is how to deal with the water byproduct from aluminum. I got it now though.

[shy mulch]

I think the reason is most people build most things small scale, and see massive setups on youtube and think "oh I want to be like that" then they unlock rocket fuel and make a ton of it not realising it's gonna feed a billion fuel gens, so they get excited and throw all the fuel gens down and post it "iM a yUtUbEr nOw"

[fluid sapphire]

i dont think its that deep

[fringe spear]

Kibitz' recent video on the behavior of a vertical pipe junction was the missing piece there for me

[shy mulch]

not deep at all, usually above ground

[mortal ginkgo]

you know whats funnier? they have no idea how much time it actually takes to both plan and decorate even a medium sized factory while Kibitz "boops" it all to save weeks of time that actually passed.

[acoustic heart]

Eh. It’s easier to tinker and troubleshoot on a smaller scale versus larger scale.

[fluid sapphire]

well, there really isnt much to troubleshoot even with a big rocket fuel setup

[acoustic heart]

More so talking about train signals and how pipes work. I think some people treat pipes like belts

[fluid sapphire]

they sure do

that is to say, its better to not build big until you understand pipes and train signals

[shy mulch]

yeah it does amuse me when he has 18000 ingots of some kind that need to go into some place in the middle of a factory that only has space for 30 machines and he says hmmm I need to make a bit more space, let's try this, boop, and then there's 4 new floors, all the pipework done and looking amazing, everything fully decorated and the exact amount of space needed for his exact amount of machines, which are all in perfectly decorated blueprints ready to place

[mortal ginkgo]

can we REALLY blame them while there is almost no explanation on how pipes work?

[shy mulch]

this makes me want to run a ridiculous no-pipe setup, all liquid inputs and outputs must be fed directly to/from a packager, all transport done by factory carts 😄
might do that just to piss everyone off 😄

[potent badge]

i recently realized that in like different valleys and caves theres echos
now placing conveyerbelts longer than the great wall of china to get something somewhere sounds so ominous

[mortal ginkgo]

I just watched a video recently where someone shows that a pump actually creates PRESSURE horizontally too, so another fuel tank had like only 10% water go through the main pipe while the one with the pump had 90%

[acoustic heart]

I suppose not, but I think most people have a basic understanding of fluids.

[keen oriole]

So I can just add mods into an existing game?

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother this is a sandbox where foundations are flowing literally in the air. Nobody expects this "OH FLUIDS ARE REALISTIC BTW GUYS SURE WHY NOT" moment in their lives.

[mortal ginkgo]

packagers solve many problems and I will die on that hill

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, you have a point.

[fringe spear]

yeah, i've found that trying to deal with fluids through physical intuition really doesn't work

[shy mulch]

I won't dispute that. I transport 1500 crude oil /min via drones

[mortal ginkgo]

drones solve many problems too

so you get double problem fixing

[shy mulch]

yay, what do I win

[mortal ginkgo]

doggo

[shy mulch]

woop!

[acoustic heart]

Sure. I’m not saying the fluids in game are 1:1 in real life. I’m just saying people shouldn’t place a long vertical pipe and expect the fluid to magically move up the pipe.

Drones are so good

I just want to be able to ride them though

[mortal ginkgo]

There are people who also report that pipes dont have priority with junctions all the time.

Like cmon. Lets be real here. I can ALWAYS find one way of using pipes as "correct" said by someone while another person in another reddit post says "its incorrect and doesnt work for me".

At THAT point, I can call pipes are just wacky code mess.

[shy mulch]

You can, briefly. I think I've managed about 20 seconds on one before getting vaulted into an alternate dimension

[hard ivy]

You can go to #math-and-meta right now and basically confirm this lol

[feral geyser]

My drone Owlery posted in #screenshots

[acoustic heart]

Idk. I just let my pipes fill up before turning on machines. That’s saved me from a lot of headache.

[mortal ginkgo]

tbh drone tower / base etc sounds really cool to have

[hard ivy]

Meanwhile, any setup of mine that didn't work without pre-filling, also didn't work with

[onyx siren]

I have had pipes not work until I put an unpowered pump on them, then others say they reset headlift to zero so it shouldn't work... idk what to say, it works on my machine

[mortal ginkgo]

And I had that for my ultra simple Coal Gen setup of 8 gens to 3 water pumps simply did NOT work despite filling them prior.

The problem was fixed when I actually added pumps to prevent the backside long pipes causing floshing on the far end coal gen connections.

NOWHERE in game tells me why it happens and the solution. I only used pumps because I thought it was a headlift issue (it wasn't).

And right now I am using valves and they work PERFECTLY fine for what I need whereas 95% of players think valves are borked and wack.

Make it make sense and let me know brotherman.

[acoustic heart]

I will say, pipes be sloshing.

[fluid sapphire]

hehehheh i am planning to finish the game without using valves anywhere

[acoustic heart]

I actually haven’t used a single valve.

[mortal ginkgo]

Daring and insane, aren't we.

[mortal ginkgo]

I do at entry and exit points of some buffers for a test, zero sloshing

they be bufferin'

[hard ivy]

I mean it's not exactly an achievement. Valves are basically useless

[fluid sapphire]

thats the point, yeah

[acoustic heart]

That makes sense. I just haven’t taken the time to mess with them. There’s a few things in the game I haven’t messed with.

[fluid sapphire]

i cant see a single situation where i would ever need one

[acoustic heart]

I got 500+ hours in game and just learned what radio towers do

[fluid sapphire]

radio towers? i didnt know we had radio

whats the best station

[feral geyser]

Brother 😭

[reef basin]

good, because you don't need them at all 🙂

[acoustic heart]

I think that’s what they’re called. The things that show all the nodes and such on the map?

[feral geyser]

They are sooo good

First thing I did after unlocking them was go on a mission radaring the whole map

[mortal ginkgo]

They also look cool when used alongside with other buildings etc.

[heavy pine]

Radar towers are handy for narrowing down where to find that last hard drive or whatever too. I started adding them to my road network last night.

[feral geyser]

And finding sloops and spheres and slugs, etc

[acoustic heart]

Oh for sure. I’ve since used them when I found out they can scope out hard drives.

[heavy pine]

Would be nice if they pinpointed them on the map instead of "There are six sloops in this circle."

[feral geyser]

Nah, that'd be too OP

[heavy pine]

But that's what the Interactive Map web site is for.

[feral geyser]

You gotta do some exploring

[mortal ginkgo]

I would think that would be OP and make the scanner obsolete

[acoustic heart]

That’s what the hand held is for

[mortal ginkgo]

if you are that far into the game and searching for last sloops, just use SCIM at that point

[acoustic heart]

I have almost all the spheres and sloops in my game. Got like 30 drives left though

[heavy pine]

I got all the hard drives, sloops, and spheres in my last run. Now I'm using the advanced options that make such things less crucial.

[acoustic heart]

Anyone have all the achievements for the game? I’m trying to 100% it myself. Pretty close to doing so

[heavy pine]

I have all the achievements. The last one I got was the golden nut statue.

[feral geyser]

I do

Getting the nut was tedious

[mortal ginkgo]

I once went for a drive in a pink forest with no radiation or poison prevention with only simple standard rebar ammo and basic explosions.

I thought pink forest was cute, so cute is safe I thought.

I WAS WRONG TO THE DEEPEST CORE OF MY BEING BROTHERMAN

[feral geyser]

But alien hunting helps

[heavy pine]

Sloop the protein and DNA canisters, that helps to stretch it out.

[acoustic heart]

Like where all the bauxite is?

[heavy pine]

Go out hunting, come back with stacks of body parts, chuck it all into a storage container and let the smart splitters sort them out for you.

[mortal ginkgo]

ya, but I had no idea, I was just strolling around kek

[acoustic heart]

I think the swamps are my least favorite place to be.

[feral geyser]

Trivial if you have homing ammo and good jetpack fuel

[heavy pine]

I got tired of dealing with the terrain, so I'm building a road network a few hundred meters in the air. I might come to regret this decision if I run into a limit on the number of buildable items in the game.

[feral geyser]

Does such a limit even exist? Like in practical terms

[visual cosmos]

Automating packaged fuel for my jetpack
Buying fuel with coupons

[acoustic heart]

Is ionized fuel worth?

[shy mulch]

The factory I'm trying to build right now - I've made a lot of progress but still a long way to go - when finished will give me 1 golden nut statue every 55 hours

[visual cosmos]

Making?

No not really

[feral geyser]

Not for burning, but for jetpacks, yeah

[visual cosmos]

Ye

For burning rocket is just better

[heavy pine]

I've got almost 50,000 foundations according to SCIM, and I'm nowhere near finished with my roads.

[visual cosmos]

[slender quest]

Make as little as you want, if any.

[mortal ginkgo]

bro doing roads.. bro is a mad man

[visual cosmos]

Roads?
Ie trucks or trains?

Or just straight up roads

[feral geyser]

The dark ion fuel recipe is worse cuz it burns up a fluid tank along the way and gives less conversion. But at least you don't have to make power shards, and Dark Matter Crystals are basically byproduct.

[acoustic heart]

That sounds wild

[shy mulch]

it will be 😄

[heavy pine]

A square grid of roads, based on the city block idea I've seen Nilaus use in Factorio. Each road segment is 4x4. I've got 10 straight segments between each four-way intersection.

[feral geyser]

Do you want some blueprints

They are so-so

[heavy pine]

I've got my own, but thanks.

I've been thinking about putting rails above the roads, but I haven't quite worked out how I'll want to do that yet.

[visual cosmos]

Honestly working on rocket fuel plant for power after having done packaged fuel for power a few days ago im starting to realise the huge difference in efficiency

[feral geyser]

You could do them below

[visual cosmos]

x4 the output with half the oil from my maths

[feral geyser]

I made a blueprint that is basically a Ceiling mounted conveyor pole, but for train tracks

[heavy pine]

Posted a screen shot the other day. #screenshots message

[visual cosmos]

Oh yeah you could do train bellow

If you want to do above and want it to still make sense instead of funi levitating train you could do some basic bars "linking" it to the road

Damn I hate the night but at the same time I cant be bothered to swap settings to keyboard just to adjust the time

[odd remnant]

Silly question but how do you do blueprints?

[visual cosmos]

Blueprint designer in "special tab"

[feral geyser]

In the Blueprint Designer. I think you unlock it at tier 2 or 3?

Build stuff inside the cube, save it as a blueprint, then build from the Blueprint tab in the build menu.

[odd remnant]

Ohh okay I haven't unlocked that yet I don't think

[visual cosmos]

Tier 4

[odd remnant]

Cool stuff

[feral geyser]

It's stupidly useful. Idk how I ever played without it.

[visual cosmos]

[visual cosmos]

By doing long lines of machines

[odd remnant]

I need to unlock it. It will be useful for what I want to do

[visual cosmos]

Just repeating the same thing over and over again

Very useful yea

[onyx siren]

Powershards are too addicting, I have to force myself to not overclock every single building I make

Oo... I would need to place down 8 constructors... or, I can just place down 4 and overclock them to 200%

At this rate, the entire power slug population is gonna go extinct

[visual cosmos]

You can make Artificial power shards later iirc

[feral geyser]

Your grid will thank you for not doing that

[visual cosmos]

Last phase though

Synthetic power shard*

[feral geyser]

Honestly, I always just plan to round machine counts up, so that i can underclock instead.

[onyx siren]

My power grid doesn't really care after I started producing over 720 rocket fuel per minute

[visual cosmos]

I'm doing 600 rn

[feral geyser]

I mean, fair, but also, come on now

[visual cosmos]

I could do more but 400 power shards for compacting the fuel plants is a bit

Too much

[onyx siren]

I would, but then I see the size of a single refinery

[visual cosmos]

Real

[feral geyser]

I think i have something like 600 refineries in my Blue Crater factory

[visual cosmos]

I have a 300/min caterium ingot thats basically a super long lines of refineries

[feral geyser]

Nearly 100 blenders

[visual cosmos]

I had a concerning amount in my previous save for 900 plastic/rubber /min
Not that many though

[modest nest]

Holy

[heavy pine]

That was kind of my idea, but the four-way intersections are going to take some finagling.

[feral geyser]

I leach, so sulfuric and all those metals.
Dissolved quartz and silica, so refineries/blenders for that and nitric acid.
Instant scrap, so blenders there.
Recycling plastic and rubber from three pure veins of crude, so that's a lot.

[modest nest]

I'm hoping to do some more insane stuff along that line this time

[onyx siren]

I'd just overclock that entire production line

[feral geyser]

Absolutely not

[visual cosmos]

I mean it's kinda confusing to do but when you understand its fairly straightforward

Not too big either, and yt has some decent guides that show how to do 4 ways

[onyx siren]

250% or nothing

[visual cosmos]

[feral geyser]

Only for certain machines

[modest nest]

I'm going to get slooping before I start crafting power shards, unless absolutely necessary

[visual cosmos]

I use shards to round up weird values to convenient numbers

[feral geyser]

Round them down round the machine count up, then even out the load

[onyx siren]

I am making 720 rocket fuel, if I sloop that I don't even want to imagine how many fully overclocked fuel generators that will take.

Now that already stupidly high number (somewhere around 120-140 maxed out generators) would be 2.5 times larger without overclocking

[fluid sapphire]

thats not that many at all really

[onyx siren]

Alright, feel free to place down 300 fuel generators then

[fluid sapphire]

i did 540, it took like an hour to place them all

if you have good blueprints that auto connect, and that you can daisy chain then it goes pretty quick

[visual cosmos]

I played 64

[onyx siren]

I haven't been making blueprints ngl. I don't think i even constructed that blueprint thingy

[visual cosmos]

With each at 225%

[fluid sapphire]

you should be, it makes building so much easier

if you are doing it all manually then yeah, it takes a really long time to set up 100

[onyx siren]

At that point, just have half at 250 and half at 200. You'll save an extra 32 powershards that way

[visual cosmos]

Well think about it
Either you place all those fuel generatord one by one and linking them manually
Or you place 4 at a time already linked to each other

Blueprints are just better when it comes to large scale building

[onyx siren]

If i place down a blueprint with pipes, will those pipes connect to pipes outside the blueprint?

[fluid sapphire]

its a fools errand to try to build at any sort of big scale without blueprints

[fluid sapphire]

pipes are a weird case, but yes

[onyx siren]

Alright, I'll give the mk.2 blueprint thing a try. I hope I can fit a couple fuel generators on that

[fluid sapphire]

i did it like this, vertically

#screenshots message

that beam connector is how i daisy chained the power, you can see a wall plug clipping through it

it was that, and a plug under the floor

[onyx siren]

Ah, gotcha

[fluid sapphire]

so the blueprint above this has a plug underneath it, that i connect that to

there are more ways to do it, i figured this was an easy way to do it

[visual cosmos]

4 in one mk2 bp

[onyx siren]

And probably the cleanest looking way

[visual cosmos]

You make the entrance for fuel facing each other, link them all

[fluid sapphire]

there are many ways to do it

i just made really tall towers, that seemed easiest

basically i had a set up of 5x3 of this blueprint on the ground floor

and then i built more on top of each stack

then all i had to do was connect power on the way down, no manual pipe management necessary, except on the ground floor

[visual cosmos]

Wouldn't you be forced to place a pump?

[fluid sapphire]

like this

#screenshots message

what for, rocket fuel is a gas

[visual cosmos]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1407055204188422277

here 4 fuel gens

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, you can fit more for sure, my designs tend to "waste" space, some would say

[pallid tide]

Can someone remind me of the purity of the sulfur node in north grassy fields? It's not on the SCIM

[mint dome]

Hi, coming back to the game after like 6 months now - did the behavior of storage containers changed? I have two belts, one with 480 items/min and the other with 100/min. In the past I would use the container to equaly divide the flow into two belts, but now the outputs retain the flow from the inputs. So the upper output flows at much higher rate than the lower output. Was that a recent change or am I just remembering wrong?

[shy mulch]

that's always been a thing as far as I can remember. storages are not designed to be splitters

[fluid sapphire]

ISC have not been reliable as splitters ever

[acoustic heart]

So uh... what do we do with Dark Matter Residue?

[shy mulch]

make dark matter crystals

[slender quest]

Condense into crystals, then do whatever.

[feral geyser]

i don't respond to DMs, but CDO means "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder"

and before you ask, no. it has to be in order.

[lunar jasper]

1 make a whoooole 1 nuclear pasta a minute

[heavy pine]

I need to be better about automating production of things as soon as I learn how to do so. Too much box crafting of project components.

[onyx siren]

Only about an hour and a half to get enough for the elevator, that's fast!

[lunar jasper]

doesnt feel very fast haha

[feral geyser]

Then you gotta get enough to make singularity cells too 😏

Then enough of those to make the Warp Drives 😭

[dense cave]

guys if the loading/unloading menu is empty, is it just gonna unload/load everything

[feral geyser]

It should have a Load/Unload switch at the bottom of the UI

It will do whatever it is set to do.

[dense cave]

as if

the monorail menu

[feral geyser]

Yes, for each freight station, you have to set it

You go to the station and set its mode

[dense cave]

i mean the locomotive

[feral geyser]

The locomotive itself doesn't take those commands

It pulls into a station and does whatever that station is programmed to do

[dense cave]

what about those "load only" and "add item" and stuff

in stop settings

[feral geyser]

Screenshot?

[dense cave]

sent

[feral geyser]

Ignore me, I have nothing to contribute, I've never even seen that menu.

[dense cave]

right-

[feral geyser]

That's cool though.

[dense cave]

i mean, since you've never seen that and i assume you have a working monorail system in your world

it should work w/o me touching em

[feral geyser]

I mean, yeah, but mine just shuttle one resource each from source to factory.

[tiny sigil]

yes

[feral geyser]

So now that I know this, I can do a whole lot more.

[dense cave]

dayum

[shadow edge]

hi where can i translate for the game

[hard ivy]

There's a message in #open-a-ticket with an application form

Don't actually open a ticket tho

[feral geyser]

Anyone done translations into te reo Māori yet?

(Probably not)

[heavy pine]

You haven't truly experienced Satisfactory until you've played it in the original Klingon.

[unborn oar]

klingon?

[wary perch]

Wouldn’t it be cool if with the in game tickets you could buy a vending machine that allowed you to change the liquid in your coffee cup

[fleet star]

How can the devs call the game finished when there are so many customizations left to be added in 🥴

[onyx siren]

Conveyer ceiling mount and floor holes are (recently) my first and favorite purchases in the awesome shop. Litteral game changers

[fleet star]

On a related note, does anyone know of shader mods to make the lights look better/project out further? I tried global illumination but it's pretty much the same as regular lighting, and actually blocks out quite a bit of the vfx for reflections

I'm talking like billboard lights, signs, wall mounted, floodlights, etc

[vale shell]

question: I've started adding power storage to my hypertube launchers, with a switch between the grid and the battery. The goal is to flip the switch, charge the battery for 10-15 seconds, flip the switch off, hop in the tube and zip away. Issue is, every time I flip the switch on for the battery, I crash whatever grid it's attached to. I have more than enough power overhead, yet it is happening. Am I missing something here? Do I need to have some drastic amount of overhead to keep it from happening or something?

[hard ivy]

connecting a working grid to a tripped grid always results in a tripped combined grid

[fleet star]

Is power so limited that you needed to shut the tubes off? A cannon only needs like 12MW

[steady cedar]

They might be defining, if you want specific items to only load/unload on specific trains
Never used it tho

[hard ivy]

missed a 0 there

it's 10 MW per entrance

[fleet star]

Hmm I thought it was like 4mw

Even still, that's just one burner worth

Just get more power

[vale shell]

10x 15 launchers is 150mw needed

it's just to keep the drag on the grid down. Multiple launchers start adding up

[limpid cairn]

why am i getting 200 less aluminum with smelters with the alt recipe

[steady cedar]

They don't take that much power tho
I usually just leave then on

[feral geyser]

There is a mod that adds proximity sensors. We use it to turn on hypertube cannons as you approach, then turn them off once you leave range for x amount of time.

[vale shell]

Is there a way to mitigate that?

[vale shell]

that's pretty cool

[fleet star]

The alt has a different ratio of scrap:ingots

[hard ivy]

not that I know of

[steady cedar]

Could use two switches?
Put the battery between the two?

[feral geyser]

The alt recipe has worse conversion rates, but doesn't require silica. Trade off

[fleet star]

It's worse to use the alt in terms of scrap value, but it's not always possible to use so much silica for a better ratio

[limpid cairn]

now i have to rebuild everything

[vale shell]

I can try that

[noble stratus]

important question. which finish looks the best?

[vale shell]

I like the combo of carbon steel and caterium

[onyx siren]

All of the above

[noble stratus]

i want something shiny modern

[noble stratus]

thanks

[feral geyser]

Chrome

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-nicktoons-toons-cartoons-gif-14827516

Wow, shows the link, not the gif 😒

[noble stratus]

is there anywhere i can see them all compared to each other?

[feral geyser]

Make some stuff and color it?

Like, just... look at them?

[upbeat charm]

moral of today story

[noble stratus]

before spending costly tickets

[feral geyser]

Just do it, tickets are easy

[upbeat charm]

If you want to use Nobelisk

Check if yoy don't walk into cliff

[noble stratus]

im just stage 5

[upbeat charm]

[noble stratus]

im very close to getting trains for the first time since i bought Satisfactory in 2020 : )

never played past 4 xD

[feral geyser]

Uhh

[noble stratus]

oh wait. i think ive got another world where i have them unlocked

[feral geyser]

Tickets from DNA capsules are easy, and you can sloop both stages of construction to get 4× out of each remains.

So just buy shit, you'll be fine.

[noble stratus]

i dont wanna do them that much before getting the amplifier

ive got like 150 saved up on alien remains

or more

[feral geyser]

Hold up. You don't have production amplifier yet?

After how many years?

What tf are you doing in your world?

[hard ivy]

it was added less than a year ago

[noble stratus]

i started the world new

i always stopped at like stage 4

[onyx siren]

Production amplifier is the way, search for sam ore asap and research it in the mam. You can get 4 times the DNA out of creature remains with that

[noble stratus]

already have SAM automated....

[feral geyser]

Right when the game gets really fun 😭

[noble stratus]

i never did phase 2. i did for the first time now since ive bought it ... 😅

at least unlocked i mean. not researched yet

[sterile blade]

Ask in the Modding Discord ( see #welcome for link)

[noble stratus]

#screenshots message

[noble stratus]

gonna look into it now

[noble stratus]

literally the next thing i can research

wth. i can tplace anything. i only make markers

[onyx siren]

Too modular and clean. You need more spaghetti #screenshots

[feral geyser]

Do it, quadruple your capsules and just go alien hunting every once in a while.

[fleet star]

Discord people when they tell you to go to another whole channel to ask the same exact question instead of just answering it: ☝️🤓

[noble stratus]

half my playthrough was spent redesigning

[wicked nacelle]

It’s almost like those channels exist for a reason.

[noble stratus]

i remember now. i dont have circuit boards

nor computers

[vale shell]

go hunt the wreckages for those

[feral geyser]

It's funny cuz spaghetti is straight till it get cooked, so really, y'all spaghetti artists are just admitting you are cooked 😂

[noble stratus]

i already spent like 2 hours or so on it 😭 i have like 12 hard drives

[onyx siren]

Search the wrecks. They sometimes have packs of 30-60ish circuit boards

[vale shell]

Keep going until you find what you need

they're there

[sick dragon]

why does copper have to be so spread out with no easy way to gather it all smh

[pliant hornet]

I installed some mods, now i have to set textures to ultra high or the textures of things like the stones that stand on the mining ressource nodes and monsters become super unsharp. I suspect a mod causes this. Is there a trick how to figure out which mod does that other than trying to disable every single one of ~40 mods?

[noble stratus]

too bad recks arent on the scanner....

[onyx siren]

They can be

[hard ivy]

they are with the right upgrade

[noble stratus]

huh?!

[hard ivy]

the object scanner, not the resource scanner tho

[noble stratus]

vanilla???

[onyx siren]

The object scanner specifically, not the resource scanner

[noble stratus]

where

[vale shell]

I know people's opinions on using something like this are individual, but I personally use the interactive map on a 2nd screen when I'm hunting wrecks

[hard ivy]

MAM quartz tree

[charred pumice]

i always end up finding more wrecks by just walking around than actually scanning

[noble stratus]

table too small for second screen. although id have one

[onyx siren]

Near the end of the quartz research tree

[fleet star]

Alt+tab

[vale shell]

alt-tab it then if you're down to use it

[noble stratus]

when i upgraded from my Windows HP DESK to a killer machine with which i went way over budget lol

[noble stratus]

ik

[noble stratus]

thx

[vale shell]

trust everyone who's pushing you to get that unlocked. 4x dna is some very quick tickets early

[noble stratus]

more like one of the last 3

[hard ivy]

am i weird that I haven't sunk a single DNA capsule since they were added?

[noble stratus]

after crystal oscillator

[vale shell]

not weird, but you are missing out

[hard ivy]

I've never felt short on coupons tho

[charred pumice]

if you got enough production up to not need it, what a great place to be.

[feral geyser]

At this point, I'd just be buying extra statues

[charred pumice]

but having started fresh for 1.1 i used dna caps early to get some tickets.

[sick dragon]

ive had this on vanilla i dont think its mods. i see it alot with asphalt and have to reload when it happens

[vale shell]

I mean it gets to a point very quickly where it's a non issue, esp. if sinking extras off just about every production line. I think I'm currently sitting on 30+ tickets after having just got to phase 3 yesterday. But very early on it's a great way to get some early unlocks. Things like concrete foundations under customization will let you remove the need for plates when building foundations, etc

[pliant hornet]

no i just confirmed it, removed all decoration mods etc and its gone... gonna try to narrow it down a bit

[onyx siren]

You can get tickets much earlier if you sink dna. Earlier "managment" tab unlocks are always great

[reef basin]

*discord people trying to get people to follow channel topics

[mortal ginkgo]

What if someone needs to ask something regarding modding that is related to looking for group and needs to share screenshots while showcasing their design and architecture but also the same question is a help demand?

[acoustic heart]

Just found out FICSIT has a no waste policy 💩

[heavy pine]

Disable half your mods; if the issue persists, disable half of the remaining mods. If the issue goes away, re-enable half of what you had disabled. Go back and forth until it narrows down to a single mod.

[mortal ginkgo]

tis was a joek

[onyx siren]

Yah, ficsit never wastes modular frames, computers, cables, wire, ect. They all get sent to Billy over there when I throw them in the trash. They just don't want Billy messing with radioactive waste

[pliant hornet]

...is the problem mod structural solutions 300+...?

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @reef basin

[acoustic heart]

I was talking about flushing the toilet

[onyx siren]

You found the workaround. Billy actually works in waste managment so if you flush nuclear waste you are giving Billy the ability to do unspeakable things. Be careful

[burnt ferry]

hold on... when you hold e to show the ring menu for all the building alternatives for the current one, and then you hold left mouse button, the material changes

[pliant hornet]

After testing:

I have to remove both Decor+ and Structural solutions, then the texture problem is gone

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, so when you select a different building, each one has different materials that it requires @burnt ferry

[meager rune]

do yall mass produce things like stators for whenever you may need them? i was thinking about just making a massive factory for just stators, motors, wire, and the combinations of them

keep in mind im phase 4 im just trying to utilize more of the map

[reef basin]

no, I make them onsite

[tropic juniper]

transport raw materials. it's the most dense way to transport items

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, anything that I cant make with constructors I just make onsite. Like I just finished a copper cable and sheet factory that is going to feed another factory

[mortal ginkgo]

I think you dont need stator that much to begin with and making them alongside engines can be profitable

[tropic juniper]

not too raw though. refined raw

[pliant hornet]

I was corrected on the modding expert discord... It's not a bug per see, it's not enough vram <--- loads unsharp graphics if not enough vram

[acoustic heart]

Just download some more VRAM 😉

[mortal ginkgo]

People dont know how to download Ram in this day and economy?

Wow... just wow... Humanity never ceases to amaze me, even in negative ways.

[atomic notch]

Sry i downloaded all the ram

[reef basin]

I meant by "make onsite" that you don't do factories feeding other factories

[noble stratus]

YEEEES

40 Circuit boards!

@onyx siren @feral geyser @hard ivy

and another 54!

Production Amplifier here i come

[onyx siren]

I might make salilight factories if I have a plan for them. For example, why transfer stacks of 100 bauxite when you can transfer stacks of 200 aluminum casings

[unkempt blade]

I agree, bigger logistics needs is just a great excuse to use more trains!

conventional wisdom is that you should combine stuff as much as possible before moving it but that's stupid because it needs fewer trains

[onyx siren]

Maybe it "needs" fewer trains. But that doesn't mean I can't make more trains for it

[limpid cairn]

You can’t download vram no?

Only ram

[onyx siren]

I could easly make 4 separate train stations around my aluminum production. One for casing, one for sheets, one for fluid tanks, and one for the raw ingot in case I need that for anything specific. That's 4x as many trains than just one train for bauxite

[silk rose]

just use amd lol

[mystic oriole]

has anyone convinced a bean to ride a manta?

[limpid cairn]

What does that have to do with amd?💀

[silk rose]

vram is cheap af, nvidia intentionally limits it

[silk rose]

offers less vram usually

[wicked nacelle]

all gpu makers intentionally limit it

[limpid cairn]

????

[silk rose]

yes but not like 8gb for $500

[limpid cairn]

You only get 8gb if you buy a xx60 card usually

70+ have 16gb + usually

[silk rose]

ok its getting offtopic

[limpid cairn]

I’d look online but my WiFi is to shit to use any browser bruh

[wicked nacelle]

talking about tiers of cards across generations is meaningless. Each card exists as a product - talking about what classification of names a corporation gives them is meaningless

[bronze pawn]

Isn't the game more demanding to RAM than to VRAM?

[limpid cairn]

It’s not, we are using information to give each other the best satisfactory experience 😂

[ionic forge]

what does "Purity ; Temp" mean ?

[mortal ginkgo]

VRAM can be used a lot if a very chungus factory is in the open with no walls etc

[limpid cairn]

VRAM = gpu ram
Ram = cpu ram

[silk rose]

16 of both is enough all i know

[spice patio]

Node cluster with multiple nodes.

[wicked nacelle]

games have to be developed as to run on what hardware is available. if you make a game that takes too much vram then people can't play it so they make it so it doesn't.

[mortal ginkgo]

Temp means there are bunch of nodes together and very close (some says its bug and it shouldn't say that but o'well)

[wicked nacelle]

I thought that meant there was a thingy that you can pick axe away?

[spice patio]

10GB of VRAM should be enough for Ultra textures.
Might need 12GB of VRAM for Ultra + Global Illumination + Frame generation

[bronze pawn]

I have 16GB of RAM and 12GB of VRAM, and when I created a map with a lot of megaprints in it, I run out of RAM faster than VRAM

[ionic forge]

oh so its not a node, just a cluster okay

[wicked nacelle]

how much vram a game needs and how much vram GPUs have is a chicken/egg problem

[limpid cairn]

I can run the game with ultra graphics with 8gb vram (3060 ti)

[mortal ginkgo]

Me too but you can find really a lot of those axe-able smol nodes. But then I got Temp as bunch of oils close by and oil cant be axed so I got convinced.

[mortal ginkgo]

this game's blueprinting code is wack so its possible

[spice patio]

But that doesn't always work, and some people experience game hitting its internal VRAM limiters and FPS dropping to around 10 FPS because of that, when trying to use Ultra textures with 8GB of VRAM.
Depending on save and player movements.

[mortal ginkgo]

it is bunch of NODES together

[wicked nacelle]

things that you build don't take vram. so yeah, that makes sense

[spice patio]

No-one with 10GB has hit that AFAIK.

[wicked nacelle]

vram isn't just "system ram that is somewhere else"

[bronze pawn]

Yeah, that's why I said you should worry more about RAM than VRAM. You can live with 8GB of VRAM if you lower your settings, but you can't live with low RAM

[unkempt blade]

it's not pronounced vram it's pronounced vroooom and it's what the explorer does

[mortal ginkgo]

go away cart enjoyer, your comments are invalid automatically

[ivory condor]

What if I told you im quickly approaching my vram limit at 16gb already with this game

My may need to upgrade for more vram soon

[silk rose]

what phase tho

[wicked nacelle]

the game runs fine with normal amounts of ram for expected game play. obviously with open world stuff you can always josh it out and exceed that

[onyx siren]

Factory carts can vroom too, but only at about 5mph...

[unkempt blade]

cart go vrooom too but it's a lot higher pitched than the explorer

[spice patio]

VRAM being used, and VRAM being needed are two different things.
Unless you have almost 10k unique signs, the game shouldn't be actually needing 16GB of VRAM, even with Ultra etc.

[mortal ginkgo]

ok but can you tell devs to fix Explorer please? That thing is stuck at speed of 100 while it can go 150, constantly goes back and forth with the speed, wonky as heck to use and "not so explorery"

[unkempt blade]

50 km/h! it's faster than a bladerunnered pioneer!

[bronze pawn]

It runs fine for the first 200 hours, but after your map is needled with roads and giant factories, it becomes a problem

[ivory condor]

Not real phase, certain building styles are vram intensive with this game, even one of my smaller save that is only a few mbs in file is up to like 14gb vram usage

[silk rose]

i guess thats hard to approach cuz the whole game is like 25gb idk where to get that much textures

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother you are probably using 4596845096854096804958604958604 signs

[onyx siren]

Games will reserve more vram if it's available. Doesn't mean having less will tank your fps.

[spice patio]

Non-text/icon containing signs are light on VRAM.
And identical signs only count as one.

[unkempt blade]

Personally I think they should just replace it with bigger versions of the factory cart. A cart XXL should be able to go 150km/h though for sure

[wicked nacelle]

what is it abouty signs that can eat vram?

[ivory condor]

What if I told you its only 3k signs actually

[unborn oar]

are 10 hours long?

[spice patio]

Each unique one needs separate texture in VRAM.

[vague dune]

In a single playthrough???

[spice patio]

Originally each needed about 1MB, not sure about today.

[unborn oar]

in single session

[spice patio]

With lot of optimizations on signs.

[unborn oar]

in 1 sit

exclude food and bathroom

[vague dune]

Oh I mean

[silk rose]

3gb then? @spice patio

[ivory condor]

True but it does mean if I continue these building styles ill likely cross my vram limits soon

[wicked nacelle]

ah, I always just had each letter and then drew them out one at a time ... but that only works for monospace fonts

[vague dune]

Pretty average if you ask me

[unkempt blade]

I know heavy lighting usage used to make my gpu sad but it's a lot better recently

[unborn oar]

crazy world we live in

[vague dune]

Ive had 12+ when I first started

[unborn oar]

you engineer?

[vague dune]

no

[unborn oar]

same

[spice patio]

Like I said, now signs without icon or text are very light.
And signs with exact same settings count just as one, no matter how many there are.

[unborn oar]

i js done my biggest project

64 CG

[onyx siren]

What makes you think that?

[vague dune]

64 Coal generators?

[unborn oar]

yes

[vague dune]

I have a factory in the south-east swamp with 80 Fuel Generators

[limpid cairn]

Depends on what vram type you have mainly

[ivory condor]

Idk ask the game what its doing with all of this vram usage

[vague dune]

(Planning on upgrading that soon)

[silk rose]

you can only see allocated amount tho

[spice patio]

No.
That is because Unreal Engine 5 starts doing very stupid shit once its internal usage limit is reached.
Which is just 81% of Dedicated VRAM.
And doesn't allow GPU driver to handle overflow.

[unkempt blade]

I blame nvidia for cheaping out on vram now that they make all their money from AI chips

[spice patio]

I mostly blame Epic for writing idiotic code way back when UE4 was being made, that is still included.
Not letting GPU driver handle VRAM, but trying to safeguard against going over dedicated VRAM, and stuff spilling into RAM.

[wicked nacelle]

I see, the game assumes that 19% of your VRAM is used by other random stuff

[ivory condor]

Idk if the gpu is reporting a number for vram usage, how can you tell usage apart from allocation?

[wicked nacelle]

doesn't windows try to hide your actual vram by giving you equal amount of dedicated system ram

[ivory condor]

Its a interesting question, idk

[silk rose]

even their launcher sucks idk where they get money from

[spice patio]

In UE4, with DX12, the engine just crashed when it hit the limiter.
In UE5, with DX12, it starts to manually swap textures instead, tanking performance.
Instead of allowing GPU driver to use RAM as VRAM extension as needed with graceful performance drop.

[wicked nacelle]

I can load a 48 gig LLM and it thinks it's in VRAM when I only ahve 24

[silk rose]

i personally cannot

[unkempt blade]

Their CEO lives driving distance from me if you'd like me to leave any feedback on his porch in the form of a message written on a paper bag filled with poo

[spice patio]

No.
With dGPU, you have that Dedicated VRAM (actual VRAM on the card), and Shared VRAM (RAM as VRAM that can be dynamically used by GPU driver as needed, up to half of RAM).

[unborn oar]

crazy

[wicked nacelle]

so windows is better at doing it? or does windows actually do something smart with pcie and some sort of DMA system for the video card? -- vs UE actaully doing a normal CPU-intensive copy from system to vram?

[silk rose]

gogogo tell them i cannot find already installed apps with launcher

[ivory condor]

So no real way, guess im going to assume that 14gb vram usage is accurate then

[vague dune]

I eventually need to dilute my fuel so I can make ~350 FPG

[spice patio]

GPU driver is pretty smart about it.
But Epic has coded default UE5 to "never" let that happen, and start doing something stupid to prevent it, causing much worse performance than what the GPU driver would do.

[unborn oar]

fpg?

[vague dune]

Fuel powered Gens

[spice patio]

Something deep seated from way back when running out of VRAM crashed, before RAM as VRAM extension was a thing.
Basically time before AGP...

[wicked nacelle]

is there a hack to trick UE into thinking you have double the actual vram? Or just some arbitrary amount?

[silk rose]

using ram would only work on pciex16 tho

[wicked nacelle]

why?

[spice patio]

Nah, point is that the now UE is doing the same swapping between RAM and VRAM each frame, manually, with much worse performance than if GPU driver did it.

[silk rose]

i mean not exactly but you would need good pcie bandwidth

[spice patio]

Faster bus makes the performance loss smaller, but has been done since early AGP.

[unkempt blade]

time to bring back SLI I guess!

[wicked nacelle]

that likely makes the problem worse not better

[silk rose]

wait is it that thing for gpu link

[onyx siren]

You need the blender for that. But by the time you can unlock the blender, you can also unlock nitro rocket fuel which can power around 140ish fuel generators (iirc) with one coal node, one sulfur node, some fuel, and some nitrogen.

[wicked nacelle]

don't forget the iron plates 🙂

[ivory condor]

Could always just get a gpu with 24gb vram, but I might just find another building style that approaches that limit to, that's part of my problem im always finding ways to push my hardware to the limits

[unkempt blade]

you don't want to turn a single problem into 2 problems duct taped together?

[ivory condor]

Oh well, ill just try not break my hardware and game too much

[wicked nacelle]

nvlink is helpful for sli but not required. sli is a driver level thing mostly\

[onyx siren]

Not for the nitro rocket fuel alternate recipe

[silk rose]

yes, that thing when you have two gpus and get like 15% increase in performance

very helpful in games

but i think it works for stuff like blender

[ivory condor]

Sli is dead though

[wicked nacelle]

I have that, was more just a question about UE in general

[wicked nacelle]

it was just more trouble than it was worth. And it's not like nvidia has a glut of consumer GPUs they are struggling to sell.

[ivory condor]

Nvidia doesnt care about consumers gpus anymore anyways

[spice patio]

Went away with DirectX 12, which wouldn't have worked with driver level multi-GPU.
And could have engine/game level multi-GPU, which no-one has bothered to implement.

[silk rose]

last good thing was 3060

[ivory condor]

Yep 30 series was good, last great series from nvidia

[true mulch]

What did they do wrong with the 40 series?

[hard ivy]

price

[mortal ginkgo]

I am happy with my 4070ti

[true mulch]

I know that on the 50 series they removed some legacy stuff which makes old games run comparably worse to the 40 series

I have a 4070 Super and it cost half the price of the whole PC

[onyx siren]

Considering how long gpus last, I haven't felt that it was too much money. In the end it's still cheaper than my friend's music hobby

[hard ivy]

I mean that's how you should budget a PC. 40-60% should be the GPU

[silk rose]

some times cheaper than good monitor

[true mulch]

Yeah I'm expecting the PC to last me a decade before I'm forced to upgrade, it was a long term investment

[ivory condor]

Mostly pricing to performance, also bandwidth and vram with some of the cards isnt great, like the 4070ti

[mortal ginkgo]

16GB VRAM is not good?

I am happy with it

[ivory condor]

The 4070ti only shipped with 12gb vram

[silk rose]

16 is good, but 3060 x16 12gb and 4060 x8 8 gb is hilarious

[silk rose]

maube that ti super

[ivory condor]

And it only had a 192bit bus to, which makes the 4070ti starved for bandwidth to

[mortal ginkgo]

I think 8GB ram is indeed lolwtf moment

[hard ivy]

that's a 4070 Ti Super

[silk rose]

it would work with x16 tho

[unkempt blade]

Speaking of starved, I really need a truck stop with 2 output conveyors to handle all my factory cart needs. I guess I should go make a post on the QA site

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yeah, seems to be 12GB but eh, I am constantly 120 fps+

[ivory condor]

Your talking about the 4070ti super, not the 4070ti🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not a big guy on the numbers but at least I am not 8

[mortal ginkgo]

maybe stop using THOSE GOD DAMN AWFUL SILLY STUPID CARTS

[hard ivy]

I have 10 GB of VRAM and it's fine tbh. I don't think 8 is terrible, at least for now

But yeah, it's probably gonna be noticeable in a few years. I wouldn't buy <12 GB now

[silk rose]

yes those suck but golden ones are OP

[onyx siren]

I like my nvidia 4070ti super, but my main problem with nvidia is when they give different cards the same name (well, according to that Linus video)

[mortal ginkgo]

are they faster?

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, that's BS for sure.

[silk rose]

idk ask @unkempt blade

[unkempt blade]

I can't and you should be more respectful of my addiction!

[mortal ginkgo]

why did you say they are OP then?

[silk rose]

joke

[mortal ginkgo]

Stop. Get some help.

[unkempt blade]

that's why I made a QA post!

[mortal ginkgo]

DAMNIT BROTHERMAN

[ivory condor]

8gb vram ahhh thats barely enough for 1080p gaming now

[silk rose]

thats enough i think

[ivory condor]

Suppose if your fine with 1080p 8gb vram can still work

[hard ivy]

I'm doing fine with 10 at 1440p

[mortal ginkgo]

listen, I would question the game that asks more than 8gb vram at this point.

Maybe devs need to learn to dev and optimize their games

before asking 250USD for premium edditions

with bazillion gamepasses in their single player games

[silk rose]

i dont quite know how im getting same performance in Bodycam as i have in satisfactory, assuming those idk 1024K textures

[ivory condor]

So your saying satisfactory needs to be optimized more. I would agree, but thankfully it's only certain building styles that cause problems

[silk rose]

im getting performance issues in empty world

[silk rose]

60 fps on all maxed 🙁

[ivory condor]

Im losing over 100+ fps in some of these saves, these frame drops are becoming massive

[unkempt blade]

people just need to start using more factory carts to match their bad tick rates up with their bad fps

[silk rose]

so imma have -40 fps in late game

[unkempt blade]

1.0+ works just wildly better than pre-1.0 though. They did some serious optimizing already

[ivory condor]

Could be

[silk rose]

-40 means reverse time and 60 again, im in loop

[silk rose]

only way out is stop playing

[onyx siren]

Have you set an fps limit? I would check that first. Windows actually was the culprit for my 60hz limit in most games

[ivory condor]

Look im just trying to maintain what frames I still have

[silk rose]

100 fps cap

[noble stratus]

ADA finally said something nice to me : ) ||unlocked Oil processing! WOHOO first time since i bought it in 2020||

[silk rose]

it took you 5 years to reach tier 5

[unkempt blade]

I'm running on ultra and just setting an FPS limit hugely improvement my power/heat. It really did not like that uncapped setting

[ivory condor]

1.1 is weird, some building styles its better but some its so much worse than 1.0, aka reaching ue5 exp levels of bad

[noble stratus]

i always stopped at stage 4 phase 1. i played in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2024 for 1,0 my first longer game which was to stage 4 and now at 1.1 finally did phase 2 unlock.

[noble stratus]

besides. 1 Year 1 Stage. sounds impressive xD

[silk rose]

nice, starting fresh always helps

[noble stratus]

it really does

[onyx siren]

I keep mine capped at 120 in the nvidia control panel. I agree it's better to put a cap on frame rate, but I prefer a number higher than 60 for that cap

[silk rose]

i really need to update my pfp with new photomode

[silk rose]

but im too lazy

[unkempt blade]

yeah mine is set to 100 to match my monitor

[sullen gull]

The first step is admittance. 😏

[silk rose]

i think i can find a person with same pfp here

[sullen gull]

Erm, was there a phase 5 in EA?

[noble stratus]

#screenshots message

[silk rose]

phase 4 was

[hard ivy]

tier != phase

[silk rose]

phase 5 is tier 9

@wicked nacelle yes it runs ok for most of the time

[wicked nacelle]

bad game devs using synonyms for different things causing confusion

[silk rose]

bAd GaMe DeVs ?????

best devs ive seen ever

[onyx siren]

The mercer sphere and somersloop uses added in the full release are so good that it feels like a different game. With the production amplifier, i can get 2x the powershards and overclock 2x as many machines

[unkempt blade]

Just remember that phase=package and tier=trains. This probably won't actually help but I just love trains

[wicked nacelle]

You can get a lot more than 2x the shards 🙂

[ivory condor]

Optimization seems to be a skill most game devs dont have anymore

[onyx siren]

Haven't gotten to phase 5 yet

[silk rose]

id give it like 4/5

[ivory condor]

Even Capcom games look to be a disaster optimization wise

[sullen gull]

Never said/made any allusions to that. But, the answer was that No, phase 5 did not exist before 1.0. Phase 5 and tier 9, were added in 1.0.

[limber mulch]

Hi folks, I was using the map at satisfactory-calculator for some planning, but it looks like it's out of date. Is there a current one anywhere?

[ivory condor]

Wait your talking about satisfactory or another game?

[silk rose]

switch to 1.0 in up right corner iirc

[silk rose]

i do

[median wren]

Ok - for all you min maxers out there I have a question. If you build a factory, do you spec it for maximum end product production, and leech off intermediates for buildables since its a quazi-one time cost (once the depot fillswith priority, then it goes to production.) Or do you dedicate builds specifically for intermediate buildables (depots) and leave the factory running as a factory.

[unkempt blade]

5/7, a perfect game

[onyx siren]

Double check the filters too? I think it only shows pure nodes by default

[ivory condor]

Well there is no perfect game

[wicked nacelle]

it's not out of date. why do you think it's wrong? Usually people don't understand that oil comes from nodes and wells and only turn on one of the two

[silk rose]

i only rated optimisation tho

[onyx siren]

??? We are talking in the discord for the perfect game. What are you talking about?

[ivory condor]

Optimization i would give a 4/5, can't give it a perfect rating, because it still has issues

[silk rose]

agree

[limber mulch]

Thanks guys, somehow the pure Copper filter was turned off

[silk rose]

im fine with 60 so its perfect game

[unkempt blade]

the point is I like satisfactory and I'd give it a perfect score of 5/7

[silk rose]

i can always lower settings tho

[willow glen]

Leech off production; if you’re going for maximum points you’ll want all your items going into project parts. If leeching causing an imbalance (it will), sink all backed up lines in the meantime (smart splitters set to overflow)

[ivory condor]

I would say it tries to be perfect but doesnt make it

[median wren]

So every line depot'd and overflow protected, I wasnt thinking about leeching causing down tree backups, good catch

[unkempt blade]

you're probably just not using enough factory carts

[ivory condor]

On the plus side there are definitely worse optimized games out there, aka what Capcom is making

[fluid sapphire]

these uobject crashes are out of control damn

[onyx siren]

What's that? Some kinda mod issue?

[silk rose]

use more carts

[fluid sapphire]

i dont use mods, and i am nowhere near the uobject limit

[ivory condor]

Yes

[astral knoll]

I was like that once

Then I downloaded infinite zoop and nudge

[onyx siren]

Infinite zoop sounds horrifying.

[ivory condor]

Maybe the game has memory leaks in it, that could cause uboject crashes, especially if memory isn't being cleaned up properly

[astral knoll]

It only does 10x10 innately, you have to upgrade for higher amounts

Honestly pretty nice

[feral geyser]

It's incredibly useful

[fluid sapphire]

seems like it probably does, this only happens after a few hours of building belts and stuff

[feral geyser]

Building an entire factory floor in one shot is very nice

[ivory condor]

Sounds like it

[onyx siren]

2d zoop sounds great, but imagine your hand twitching and suddenly building 1000 foundations off into the distance

[ivory condor]

Hologram locking?

[feral geyser]

Its not quite that finicky, but curve zoop can be sometimes 😭

[modest nest]

I accidentally deconstructed one of the pipes segments supplying water to 1/3 of my coal gens and was about 27 mw away from my grid shutting down before I noticed

[onyx siren]

That's rough

In my multiplayer game, I made rocket fuel and was sinking polymer resin to not clog the refineries. My buddy needed some resin for fabric and I told him about all the resin I was sinking. He had deconstructed the sink and the emergency cargo container buffer i added (wasn't actually intentionally a buffer) was half full by the time I noticed. The rocket fuel production almost halted, that could have been real bad

[hasty peak]

thats why i play solo cause then you would have to document every change on the other side of the map

[peak wasp]

morning, pioneers

[modest nest]

Just got the achievement for surviving a fall on 1 hp by jumping off a mountain intending to die

[hard ivy]

In the future ecs -> respawn

[modest nest]

ah well, achievement aquired

[ionic forge]

steel isnt too bad, though steel beams are expensive asf, 120 steel per minute only feeds 2 machines making beams

[gritty sleet]

Does the elevator move faster if you spam the call button so much it turns from green to yellow?

[feral geyser]

Beams are so much better out of aluminum

[hard ivy]

Thankfully, you barely need any

[ionic forge]

yeah i dont have scillica processing yet, so im stuck with steel beams

[ionic forge]

true that, im doing rough automation of it for now

omg tier 3 belts are so fast

[limpid cairn]

I opened 10 hard drives so far and still didn’t get the copper ore + water alt recipe

[mystic oriole]

if at first you don't succeed, abort, abort, abort

[ionic forge]

you lied, t3 belts need so many

[topaz shale]

When making rail blueprints, should I try making them using the mk2 blueprinter? I do know that I need to make sure to use the same sized blueprint so that the rails can match up.

[feral geyser]

The blueprinter itself doesn't have to be the same size as long as your spacing, widths, etc., line up. But if you have the mk 3, do it in there, bigger is better.

[topaz shale]

I definitely don't have that. I guess I just want to make sure that I can have a set of blueprints that can be used anywhere. I wish it has the ability to line up to the world grid similar to factorio.

[feral geyser]

You can snap to a world grid

[mystic oriole]

ctrl

[topaz shale]

I know that. I guess I meant having them be chunk aligned to itself. Similar to how factorio does it.

I hardly train anyways in satisfactory though I guess I should start soon.

[feral geyser]

I think you can do that also, whatwith auto-connect and snapping

But I don't know how Factorio does it, so 🤷‍♂️

[topaz shale]

It's all right. I think I'm going to attempt to make my own blueprints using the mk2 blueprint. I might use someone's blueprint in order to figure something out.

[proud leaf]

i quit satisfactory until i get a better pc 😭

[topaz shale]

Though I might do what I did in factorio and use someone else's blueprints for my rail needs. Decisions decisions

[exotic pilot]

When I use my hyper cannon I go to like 2 fps

[proud leaf]

k

[gritty sleet]

Has anyone else noticed this stacking zipline sound bug, where every time you pass a power tower, it stacks a new zipping buzz on top of the previous ones? Once you pass through several towers, it sounds like a lotta bees...

[exotic pilot]

Nuh uh

[queen yoke]

what happened to the steel frame foundations?

[dense violet]

buy them in the awesomeshop

[queen yoke]

cant find them there

[dense violet]

maybe you haven't unlocked them yet

check what you need in the wiki

[feral geyser]

They are in Architecture

[queen yoke]

i just got basic steel production

[queen yoke]

ohhh

[shrewd mica]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/
^Is Satisfactory Calculator down for anyone else?

[feral geyser]

Yes

[queen yoke]

i see
thanks

[outer fossil]

Where is the photo I took in photo mode?

[shrewd mica]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-king-finances-recovering-ruined-money-gif-3010668295717914484

[covert sphinx]

down for me

[feral geyser]

Press tab while in photo mode, and you can open the folder from the menu

[shrewd mica]

Was working this morning before I went to work. Just got off and sat down to figure out some end game crafting and its down. OOOHHH I shoulda taken a PTO day 😄

[outer fossil]

Thanks

[feral geyser]

Time to plot some trees by hand

[shrewd mica]

I love me some Excel spreadsheet magic... but I love web based tools that do all the calculating for me automatically. 🙂

[dense violet]

time to try https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production I guess

[topaz shale]

Satisfactory tools is pretty good as well as the satisfactory modeler application. That last one is in steam for free.

[lean ferry]

After long long hours of contemplating and a full month of thinking

I’n gonna be lazy and not do plutonium processing, rush endgame (I’m end tier 9) get the ending and start fresh

And when I start fresh I’m actually gonna start building with architecture

[rustic otter]

is SCIM down rn?

[topaz shale]

Yup

[rustic otter]

damn, i was gonna use it for some fucking number keeping so i dont forget but that sucks

[rain cave]

Hi, I'm Mijael. Does anyone know how I can upgrade all my conveyor routes more quickly? It's actually taking me a long time to upgrade each section from MK1 to MK3.

[rustic otter]

how much are the belts carrying?

@rain cave

[limpid cairn]

you cant upgrade all at once but you can just replace the belt directly

[rain cave]

hi, thousands

[rustic otter]

a minute?

[rain cave]

ahh no

60 per minute, mk1 to mk3

[lost wagon]

is there a website that works similar to how the "SaLT" used to? Don't need to be as fancy, just the grid and the machines sizes so you can build the layout

[reef basin]

honestly, I'd say to build layouts ingame - it works exactly as it should and once you finish the "planning", you already have it built

[lost wagon]

except anything in game isn't even close to a birdeye view

[rustic otter]

theres decoupled mode for the camera

or jetpack and lookout tower

[topaz shale]

Once you get the hoverpack, you pretty much get to do this.

[unkempt blade]

one of my blueprints is just a tall pole with power wires running up it so I can view things from waaaaay up with the hoverpack 😄

[topaz shale]

SCIM is back online, it seems.

[slate python]

How do you put makers like that #screenshots message

[feral geyser]

Add New Marker, bottom right of map screen

[zealous spear]

All right I feel like I'm going crazy but I want to ask did they update old parts of the map?

[zealous spear]

#screenshots message

This area feels refurbished

[slate python]

Oh ok

[lofty phoenix]

Can excited photonic matter packed?

[rustic otter]

be packaged?

[neon hollow]

I finally got all 8 of my fuel generators running at max power for 5-6k MWh

[lofty phoenix]

Yes

[rustic otter]

i dont believe so

[reef basin]

you got both the unit and prefix wrong 🙂

it's "GW" not "kMWh"

[neon hollow]

I meant at in 5000

[reef basin]

yeah, that's 5000 MW, or 5 GW

[neon hollow]

Mb I didn’t know that but thank you for telling me

[steady glade]

its not really wrong to use k MW

the h part though is specifically for power storage

[neon hollow]

I do have 2 batteries connected

I just recently finished so I was hyped and threw words out

[steady glade]

then you have 200 MW/h

[somber cedar]

I finally completed project assembly! now I immediately want to start over and make a not shit factory. One huge factory that's organized instead of many sattelite factories and hypertube launchers everywhere

[neon hollow]

What phase were you on

I’m on phase 3 and I just started tearing down all my factories and remaking them a lot more efficiently and tried to make a actual structure for decoration

[lofty phoenix]

How many nuclear generators need to stable run a particle accelerator making nuclear pasta

[somber cedar]

I just completed the game without touching nuclear a single time

[steady glade]

calculate it for what you want

satisfactory modeler is best for granular planning

[reef basin]

MWh, not MW/h

[steady glade]

mb

[reef basin]

np, units are hard 😛

[somber cedar]

with all the late game structures making parts I was only clocking in at 125,000 MW out of 193,000 all rocket fuel

I was thining maybe I needed to boost the ||Sloop structure|| with the ||alien power matrix|| to get over 200k but it wasn't needed at all. 1 Fully overclocked pure node of oil with diluted fuel Blender recipe and Nitro Rocket Fuel recipe makes 1800 Rocket fuel

[neon hollow]

DAMN I’m over here struggling to get to 10 GW

[steady glade]

you're on phase 3, you'll get 20gw off 300 oil with a bit of work

[peak wasp]

About to unlock fuel power ^_^

[little elm]

its one of the bigger shifts in how you play

good luck

[steady glade]

go get a bunch of hard drives

ideally before then

[somber cedar]

You'll get there, I just kept rebuilding the fuel. Going from regular fuel to Diluted fuel, to turbo, and then rocket. Adding generators, but using the same ones the whole time

[peak wasp]

Thank you 🙂

I wish biofuel could be automated

[steady glade]

like with a ranch?

[peak wasp]

Hmm I have to chop down trees by hand rn

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[unkempt blade]

or with a pressure cooker like shoving it all deep underground until it turns into dinosaur juice and then pumping it back to the surface to burn to power jetpacks

[atomic notch]

Chainsaw is all you really get

[steady glade]

ye but what would you shove

[unkempt blade]

animals and plants and stuff

[steady glade]

thats the part that isnt automated

[unkempt blade]

nature automates it, you just have to be patient with nature

[atomic notch]

Synthesized flesh would be cooler imo

[unkempt blade]

I heard that's how they made factory carts so adorable

[peak wasp]

my tractor eats packaged fuel 🙁

[slate python]

HOW DO YOU HAVE SUCH A STEADY STREAM #screenshots message

[storm talon]

Dw you'll get something better soon anyways.

Tractor is kind of useless, but I like to construct them near far-flung factories to have more storage + a workbench if I need to make the odd thing.

[peak wasp]

I have the truck as well

[storm talon]

@peak wasp Huh. Are you utilizing hypertubes?

[peak wasp]

mope 🙁

[storm talon]

Do that.

[peak wasp]

i need too, oil is so far away

I'm just about to unl;ock fuel power

[storm talon]

That's how I navigate stuff. A lot of the time you're going to have nodes scattered a long way off and hypertubes are a great solution for connecting your factories.

My thing is that I like to have constructors that deal with X material in X factory.

Which is a pain in the ass a lot of the time because I need to build big conveyor highways.

But you don't necessarily have to do that.

[wet fox]

i usually work the same way, and yea it can be a pain sometimes. Once i get this heavy modular frame factory up and running i plan on replacing most, if not all, of my truck routes with trains

at least the more far flung ones anyways

[peak wasp]

I'm doing a one stop shop at the main base, having everything flow in

but power separate.

[storm talon]

@wet fox how are truck routes btw?

I might be doing things the wrong way

[peak wasp]

you have to record a loop and save it

i think

[storm talon]

I don't mean how to do it, I mean how good it is

[wet fox]

theyre not terrible, can move things at a decent enough rate. Can be a pain when you have as many as i do right now though. They like to collide with each other and lock up

ive had to like, give each truck a unique route or a road all to itself to keep things moving

[peak wasp]

Oh

im waiting for trains and skipping that

[blazing spire]

so im trying to play satisfactory for the first time and its crashing as soon as i try to launch the game i clike launch and it brings me to a screen that says satisfactory with a loading wheel beneath it and then the game doesnt open anyone have any idea on how i can fix this

[wet fox]

probably for the best lol

easier to maintain overall too. I have a packaged fuel line specifically for keeping all the truck depots at my main base fueled

[storm talon]

I might consider it with my big fuckin foundry so I don't have to construct another immense conveyor highway out there, especially since the route is so dangerous

[peak wasp]

those kamikaze bees are annoying. do we get to upgrade the gun to a shotgun?

[wet fox]

was a pain to route the conveyers

[storm talon]

It really is sometimes.

[steady glade]

||boombox||

[storm talon]

Wait that's what that is?

I thought it was a thing to play the soundtrack on.

[wet fox]

#screenshots message

Theres like 4 more depots not pictured here

[peak wasp]

really excited to see how this game develops in the future

[rustic otter]

theres a turbo bass boost thing that does 1 damage to nearby lifeforms and it will clear out the bugs

[storm talon]

Ahh

To me they're not that much of an annoyance.

[rustic otter]

its right click i believe

[storm talon]

Cliff hogs though...

[rustic otter]

i just have it on retaliate

[hidden spruce]

you can also just ||slide to them into crouch and just destroy the nests before any bees spawn||

[cosmic laurel]

should i use path signals any time im merging at least 2 tracks onto 1 or having one track cross antoher?

[wet fox]

@ionic forge thats the spicy rocks
#screenshots message

[ionic forge]

spicy rocks?

[wet fox]

uranium lol

[ionic forge]

ohhhh, yeah i cant use that

do you know if there are any hard drives near that patch? thats what im looking for

[atomic olive]

only use path signals if you need a train to only enter a section if it has a path out of that section. If it's just merging, then you are probably fine with block signals. Track crossing may depend on more details. (Ex: for T-junctions the rule of thumb is path signals on entrances, block signals on exits)

[slate python]

How did you get such a steady stream of beams #screenshots message

[visual cosmos]

just

make a good factory

i have like 1k/min on my current save for steel

[slate python]

Bro WHAT

[visual cosmos]

which phase you at

[slate python]

1

[visual cosmos]

its much easier when you unlock refineries

oh ;-;

wait you cant have steel at 1

[slate python]

I am getting to phase 2 of space elevator

[visual cosmos]

yea so you're at phase 2

[slate python]

Ok

[visual cosmos]

[slate python]

What does your setup look like

[slate python]

😁

[violet pecan]

Has anyone ever considered Satisfactory GeoGuessr?
The map seems big enough.

[ionic forge]

found a "fused modular frame" from a crash site, i should throw it in the sink right

[storm talon]

Is there any way to like... launch the tick-giraffe thingies into orbit?

Asking for a friend.

[wicked nacelle]

no, but nukes work well. throw one beside them then one on them and detonate

[wet fox]

dont bully the beans D:

[slate python]

Ya

Let beans be beans

[unkempt blade]

what if beans want to go to the moon?

I say trick them into walking across some jump pads and let them do what their hearts desire

[slate python]

I bet they don’t

[storm talon]

Alright: my dev ask for the next update. If the tick-giraffe-elephant-whale things get stuck on a machine or piece of equipment or even a rock, give them a unique animation that makes it look like they're stuck there instead of standing in mid-air lol

[unkempt blade]

what are you a beanologist or something?

[azure linden]

damn, i racked up almost 200h after a month of playing lul

[slate python]

No I just feel bad

[visual cosmos]

i wanna be able to tame the flying guys

we can pet them why not tame

[slate python]

Ya

[unkempt blade]

I'm still holding out for a lizard doggo sled

[azure linden]

a new mode of transport

[storm talon]

@visual cosmos You mean the lizard doggos?

[visual cosmos]

no

the flying kinda big thingies

[slate python]

Haha

[azure linden]

Manta Rays

[storm talon]

Oh you mean the giant howling manta ray

[visual cosmos]

look like mantis rays

ye

[storm talon]

I haven't breached the part of the map where he's a common occurrence but I'm just on the edge, so every time he bellows I look up and catch him leaving.

[visual cosmos]

i went on one accidently

was top of the map, a waterfall

he goes super low there and i was there at the right time

wasnt my goal though

[unkempt blade]

maybe we should get some beans way up high on a ramp and then nudge them onto a ray

we could solve two problems at once

[storm talon]

@unkempt blade Would that work? LOL

God that might work

It's feasible too.

All you have to do is make a corral for them and smack them and they'll start running the right direction.

Oh god.

I just had the worst thought.

Mass bean extermination via corraling them past a tall drop

Like human ancestors did with mammoths

[chrome orbit]

hey i just got fuel power and im just sinking all of my polymer resin because i am already making rubber and plastic from a different source is that ok

[storm talon]

I mean... are you gonna run out of polymer resin?

You can't run out of resources in this game, so it should be fine.

[burnt ferry]

you dont run out of resin

you want to either sink it or find a way to convert it economically

which the recycled rubber/plastic recipes are a good way to

plus a recipe to make the resin to plastic initially (as thats cheaper than rubber)

[storm talon]

I have the alt rubber and plastic recipes so I'm probably gonna use the polymer resin for that.

[chrome orbit]

ok its just i dont want to have a rubber shortacge in the future

[burnt ferry]

this will come 😂

no matter what

but especially in the beginning sinking the resin is fine

[storm talon]

@burnt ferry What happens to liquids when you deconstruct a fluid reservoir?

[burnt ferry]

just vanishes