satisfactory

[dense violet]

and it would. Objectively

You're mad you can't accomplish any X goal within a set of rules and posibilities and don't want restrictions. When problem solving around restrictions is the point of problem solving

this is exactly what mods exist for.

[lost wagon]

I will just say that modular load balance is pretty good, can also be used as skinny splitters/merger so you can make more tight stuff

[dense violet]

and if you want to take away the challenge of load balancing? yeah get that mod.
make the achievement of load balancing meaningless.

[solemn charm]

im not mad, im just drunk.

[dense violet]

worse

[lost wagon]

who uses load balancer when superior manifold exists anyway smh my head

[dense violet]

for the challenge 😄 and aesthetics

[lost wagon]

and waste space I guess

[dense violet]

that's the exchange right? what you're willing to spend for your goals

and I have to admit, evenly smooth belts do look nice and the effort is impressive

just not something I would do for the vast majority of things

[lost wagon]

but yea, I don't even use the mod for its purpose, use for skinny splitter because I like to make compact things and trying to avoid clipping lmao

[dense violet]

although I do kinda plan on doing some sushi load balancing at some point >.>

[edgy swift]

Wheres the SMM download??

[lost wagon]

I made my factories output everything inside the same truck station and have a truck delivering all the mixed things to a central storage area where smart splitter just send everything to their own storage just for looks

[edgy swift]

Does anyone know where to get it

[dense violet]

if you had fun doing that, great 😄

[lost wagon]

https://ficsit.app/

[lost wagon]

had more fun than just spamming Depo on top of all storages 😄

made me feel the joy of seeing item sorter in minecraft again

[solemn charm]

so far my favorite use of programmable splitters has been to replace vehicle transportation with belt transportation, cause i like belts and sky bridges.
sending a line of junk from one side of the map to the other and then using programmable splitters to separate them is cool and totally doesn't trivialize the game. pretty cool QoL feature.

[dense violet]

there you go xD , I never bothered with central storage even before depots. Just faster hitting up a couple factories every once in a while. Or drive a large train of materials to a big build site

[olive sandal]

im at the point of "now I gotta wait for plastic and rubber so I can get rid of this fuel while I dump the entire pipeline 4 times"

[vocal patrol]

yall i just got cole

so happy

[sick dragon]

now the real game begins

[timber spade]

CoffeeStain acting like they "won't add factory maintenance" like dealing with fuel generators isn't maintenance at all.

[vocal patrol]

?

dont tell me it gets wores

[atomic siren]

What do I need to handle waste from 15 nuclear reactors

just uranium -> plutonium rods and then sink them

[dense violet]

uranium waste to plu rods, yeah

or burn them in drones or trucks rather than sink them

[atomic siren]

yeah but like how many particle accelerators or whatever

this is my first nuclear setup and there arent any good guides w/o alt recipes lol

[solemn charm]

laughs in uranium fever

[vocal patrol]

gulp

[solemn charm]

you "have" to sloop the pasta. it's just required lol

good for tickets

[vocal patrol]

i wana make posta?

[dense violet]

have you ever used satisfactory tools?

[vocal patrol]

I NEED TO COOL IT BRUH

[atomic siren]

yeah not too good at it tho lol

I think I wanna do 15 which from my understanding is 3 uranium rods/min which I've mapped out

[dense violet]

15 nuclear generators? well depends what you clock them at

you could run 3 uranium rods in 6 generators if you want

[dense violet]

this is plutonium rods with no alt recipes based off the waste off 3 uranium rods https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=aUhbNGFpDq4TqgqfUsmG

[atomic siren]

oh js overclock em?

[dense violet]

you can simplify it with alt recipes

[dense violet]

well you can clock a nuclear gen to 250% to use 0.5 rods pm

[atomic siren]

yeah so I could just run 6 overclocked gens instead of 15 at 100% lol

[dense violet]

that's what clocking does

[atomic siren]

wdym based off the waste of 3 rods?

[dense violet]

well that plan uses 150 uranium waste pm, iirc 1 rod pm = 50 waste pm

[atomic siren]

ohh

yeah that makes sense

[atomic siren]

so this is the minimum I need to be able to sink them?

[dense violet]

well you can use alt recipes on the other parts to shrink it

like you could use solid steel ingots, different bauxite recipes, wet concrete , ect

[atomic siren]

yeah that makes sense

but on the waste side of things after this I just put the plutonium rods into a sink?

[dense violet]

if yo uwant

or use them in trucks or drones as fuel as mentioned

really good drone fuel

[atomic siren]

oh damn didnt know that

but like they work like regular fuel for drones/trucks? as in when its done with using them they just disapear into thin air?

[quiet gust]

yeah

no waste

but it does irradiate wherever they go

[atomic siren]

yeah nice

[quiet gust]

!wikisearch drones

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drones

[fallen relic]

Hey guys. Did the devs removed some oil nodes from the beach area?

[quiet gust]

i dont think so

[quiet gust]

not sure how long exactly they burn but its like .005 per minute which makes sense they have the highest mj value of any item

[atomic siren]

thats nice

[dense violet]

some nodes got shifted in 1.0

[gilded goblet]

does train carts have a fluid cart?

[quiet gust]

yeah\

[gilded goblet]

sweet

[quiet gust]

it autopicks whatever it needs

[gilded goblet]

i see

[quiet gust]

but you have to set up a fluid freight platform not a reg one

[gilded goblet]

ah

alright

also lon, I got my fuel gen setup

[quiet gust]

and the values of fluid friehgt are undesirable to say the least

[gilded goblet]

i'm making 5.4 GW now

[gilded goblet]

i see

[quiet gust]

basically if you wanna do fluid freight you need to be much more careful and you may have to math out how long it takes to know how many platforms you need

[gilded goblet]

alright

so I'd need 1 platform for every cart that I want to carry fluid

[quiet gust]

yeah

[gilded goblet]

okay i see

[quiet gust]

eacdh cart can carry 1800 fluid ( so less than an industial buffer)

[gilded goblet]

bc I want to make modular engine factories but dont want to source oil stupid far away

[unkempt blade]

just do fluid cars because it's a good excuse to use more trains and trains are awesome

[gilded goblet]

well like, i want the factory near my base or near my new base

real!

[quiet gust]

and regardless of if its liquid or solid have buffers on both ends as the train wont recieve product while dock nor will it let out more prodcuct

[quiet gust]

you can as long as u do it right

[gilded goblet]

in theory, I can setup the rubber factory at the same place as the modular engines, make the train stop then have the train fill the industrial buffer every time it comes around

[quiet gust]

ye

[gilded goblet]

what does it do if all the fluid isn't taken?

or does it wait

[quiet gust]

well considering the platofrm holds 2400 and the carts hold 1800, it just fills as much as possible

[quiet gust]

you can set it in the timetable to wait till full

[sick dragon]

nuuu i miscalculated how much nitrogen was in the blue crater

[unkempt blade]

don't worry I always paint my trains rainbow colored

[gilded goblet]

ah i see

[sick dragon]

oh well time to somersloop

[quiet gust]

tiime to go to the abyss cliffs

[sick dragon]

i can save it with sloops but kind of a waste lol

[gilded goblet]

I have no clue how trains work, thats why I'm asking so many questions.

[quiet gust]

just get the gas from the abyss cliffs

[sick dragon]

goin there right now wish me luck

its dark down here

[quiet gust]

just be known that is the smallest and most guarded nitro node

also the cliffs often has spiders and hogs fight

[quiet gust]

no worries, do you know ablout how most of the time you want two train lines going counter current?

[native tapir]

Oh wow, there is a Satisfactory subreddit on Discord. This is very exciting.

-Doug

[neon cloak]

i need, sigh, 200 steal beams for blueprints unlock

once i get it, i hope to be more effective in using more of the map

[gilded goblet]

Yes

Not exactly sure why, but i know thats the standard.

[neon cloak]

also, when are roads unlocked?

[native tapir]

Can you guys help me out? I have had no luck on Reddit. How do I post a screenshot?

Thanks -Doug

[quiet gust]

post it in #math-and-meta if its a math or logistics questions #dedicated-servers if its a dedicated server question in #design-and-architecture if its that kind of question or #screenshots if nothing else seems to fit ( note you cant text in that last channel the others you can)

[steady glade]

cant just text

[wicked nacelle]

Did you post somewhere?

[native tapir]

Hey Xaxxon,

Thanks for the message. Yes, I did.
-Doug

[wicked nacelle]

where'd you put it?

OIC https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/932761153703149659

[steady glade]

you can right click a message, copy link and paste it here if you posted in screenshots

[wicked nacelle]

ahh, sorry. I don't know how to do fancy looking curves and such

[gilded goblet]

is there a video that I can watch that will teach me everything ab trains

[olive sandal]

the real question is do I reroute ingots or the finished product to midgame/steel production facility

[quiet gust]

probably but much of it just comes from experience

[olive sandal]

the finished products take more space from a train point of view, but if I only move ingots it takes more space in the midgame facility

I have a lot of resources in my current basic facility bc its an early game base

I need to start move stuff asap to get computers and motors fully on

I have 10 finished products at basic 1

[gilded goblet]

i see

[sacred raft]

we r rebuilding our factory design system from ground up... holy shit

whoever made the bounding box on foundries i hope u have a nice day :))))))))))))))))))

atleast now it looks clean and we can expand it for everything but fml

[gilded goblet]

@quiet gust random question, but what tier/phase are you again?

[quiet gust]

5 on my second playthrough i beat the game on my first ( though i have 5 more from pre 1.0)

[gilded goblet]

i see, can I add you as a friend so I can dm you questions and such if not it's okay

[quiet gust]

sure

[valid merlin]

@obsidian siren Literally i was listening DnB while building and taking the picture xDD

[wicked nacelle]

Moving ingots not named aluminum is generally not a good idea. Just build by the resource you want ingots from.

And if you really want to move iron or copper it’s better to move the ore

[vocal patrol]

after 7 houers i aalmost have cole im tweeking

[stone python]

is cole a nice guy at least?

[frail sleet]

#screenshots message

Now i wanna see a ruined/abandoned build asthetic with train carts lying on their side / upside down all over

[vocal patrol]

i ment coal XDD

[stone python]

oh i know

[vocal patrol]

lol

yall plz help me

the water line i made dont work

do i need to flush all pipes?

[steady glade]

is the pipe connected?

[vocal patrol]

yes

[steady glade]

check all the way through from the machines and find where it stopped

[dense violet]

post an overhead image in #math-and-meta you've probably done it wrong

[vocal patrol]

i have like 10 houers idk how to do that

[steady glade]

press p for photo mode

[dense violet]

build something tall like a scout tower

or use photo mode

[vocal patrol]

how to fly

[steady glade]

press r for disembodied cam

[silk ocean]

You can work back the numbers as to how many you need

[vocal patrol]

got it

one sec

[silk ocean]

I don't use any alt recipes - I have 12 reactors and 2 particle accelerators is enough to deal with all the waste

[vocal patrol]

do you need pic of the pumps?

[dense violet]

of how you've connected all the pipes

[steady glade]

we need the water line at the machines, at the extractors, and the pumps between

show the piping from above and the contents of the pipes

and status of the pumps

[vocal patrol]

im just gona try and do it my self

im gona lock in

[steady glade]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[vocal patrol]

ty

[dense violet]

that's probably not going to help much tbh

[dense violet]

your issue is likely headlift, where you can't get the water high enough

or you're trying to move more water pm in the pipe than it can handle

[steady glade]

its a great read to get the basics of piping before asking for help

[atomic siren]

finally getting progress on my first nuclear setup :D

[dense violet]

the problem is almost certainly sourced by not reading the basic tool tips on the stuff already >.>

[wicked nacelle]

“The basics”??!?

[vocal patrol]

im useing two big pumps and 2 coail farms

[steady glade]

.

[dense violet]

pumps or extractors?

[vocal patrol]

extractors

il send pic rq

[dense violet]

ok are you tryign to get the water more than 10m up?

[atomic siren]

half of this is going to be the recycling setup though haha

[steady glade]

it does go in depth but it also does explain basic uses and instructions

[vocal patrol]

look what i @ you

[steady glade]

its not a bottle neck

[dense violet]

show how it's going to the coal gens

[steady glade]

that should be about 240m3, quite fine for mk1 pipes

[vocal patrol]

i will but dont be mad im new alr

[steady glade]

ideally, show from the perspective of the extractors where the pipes go and where the generators are

as cobalt said, it's likely an issue with headlift

look at each pipe section after that junction, find out which one cant fill up entirely, and put a pump behind it

[atomic siren]

#screenshots message
if u wanna see

[steady glade]

extractors allow pipes to rise slightly below the power connection point, pumps will reset the max headlift (max height of water) to +20m from where they are

[vocal patrol]

i sent them

[steady glade]

i see, that goes waay up

[vocal patrol]

yah the only cole one

close

[dense violet]

ok I recommend you rebuild the coal genrators, On foundations, at the lake

don't pipe your water all that way

[vocal patrol]

hmmmm

[dense violet]

it's a giant mess and this is the easiest fix

[vocal patrol]

hmmmmmm good ida

[steady glade]

you have 2 solutions:

1. you go from the extractors, check which pipe doesnt fill up, and put a pump there, and repeat until ou arrive
2. go to the little pond way closer in the grass fields and extract from there

[dense violet]

on foundations.

[vocal patrol]

welp wish me luck

il report back "soon"

[midnight hull]

meow

[vocal patrol]

IV DONE IT MY GOD I HAVE COAL POWER RAHHHHHHH

tats how i feal rn

got im so happy no more fraking bush fule

gulp

iv had no power for like 1 houer

and ONE cabel just turned on my entire base

what the hell is that 😭

how to check?

tire 4 ?

phaze one?

welp time to expand AHGHGHGHGHFHHGS(*UADIFBHIASDOUB F

thats waht ima expand for

bc i hav roters and plates

look

look at #screenshots that fac is makein roters and plates

you spooking me

my god this is hurting my haed

[tulip sail]

Hey guys , how do i feed lets say 3 machines that requier 240 m3 water each , with mrk 2 pipes thinking of the 600 limit ofc

in a single pipe is that possible ?

[steady glade]

nope

calc says 3 machines take 720

[tulip sail]

yeah but if all machines are constantly takign 240 out of the system is it posible

[steady glade]

again, no

the 3 machines can be connected by a single pipe

but the water will have to come from 2 pipes

[tulip sail]

yes thats what i meant

i can have a single pipe that connects them and them feed the water with multiple pipes

what is alu

[steady glade]

yes you can have as many inputs and outputs as you want, just ensure that no single section has to carry more than 600

[tulip sail]

oh

yeah im trying to feed nuclear plants

but they requiere so much water

right

right , i made a factory that provides enough fuel rods per minute for 15 plants i thought overclocking them was not great

now im trying to figure the water xD

[vocal patrol]

its done

[tulip sail]

yeah i know i guess i couldve OC to save space

[vocal patrol]

now im makeing cubes

[reef wasp]

That's the best Corey Taylor mask in my opinion.

[vocal patrol]

@unborn gyro look at #screenshots

huh???

im gona make the mam rq

[slate cliff]

When you finish building a maxed out plutonium fuel rod assembly only to figure out you need 86.400 water/min to use it all 💀

[vocal patrol]

OH MU GOD WHAT AM IM LOOKING AT

[tulip sail]

you also create waste faster by OCing , and since i didnt build anything to deal with that yet

[slate cliff]

i do the exact opposite lmao

i could have finished months ago

but i find it more fun to build super complicated 100% efficient builds with efficient but simple train networks

[vocal patrol]

is that like good food?

im ab to mkae the stun batont

baton

[slate cliff]

plutonium Fuel rods kinda look like ravioli if you squint your eyes

[vocal patrol]

yall waht dose a hard drive do ?

[slate cliff]

just add a bit of turbofuel on top and you got a nuclear pasta

they give you access to alternate recipes

[vocal patrol]

do i put it into the map?

[slate cliff]

you plop em in the MAM, give it 10min and you can select one of three alternate recipes

[vocal patrol]

yay

thats waht im geting

[slate cliff]

make sure you always got one cooking in the MAM, cause there's a lot of alternate recipes

[vocal patrol]

i have 100 mg of free enorgy

[slate cliff]

tbh, turbo rifle ammo is better

and less expensive

[steady glade]

homing ammo is compensating for a skill issue

[vocal patrol]

i have a wird slug thingy what to do with it??

[steady glade]

hogs and spitters arent so small you cant spray them and flying crabs have 1hp

[steady glade]

keep it for now

[vocal patrol]

uhhhhh alr

this game is fun in a wird way

[steady glade]

a high speed connector is kind of expensive to avoid having to move the mouse a bit

and || fliying crabs can be killed with some tunes ||

[vocal patrol]

flying CRABS??

[steady glade]

they look more like fireflies but ye

[vocal patrol]

thhows dumm expolding ones??

[steady glade]

yup

[austere lichen]

I always just snipe the nest and no crabs will spawn

[wicked nacelle]

If the bees spawn I use homing ammo to kill them while backing away then use normal ammo.

Otherwise homing ammo kills spawned just fine without bees

[steady glade]

cluster for stingers and pulse for cliff hogs

[austere lichen]

Normal for everything

[vocal patrol]

I GOT THE BASHERRRR

do i get bio coal or cast scrwers?

[steady glade]

hard drives

[vocal patrol]

@unborn gyro with one do i get

[steady glade]

all of them

cast screws

[vocal patrol]

i cant get 2 from one drive?

gulb

gulp

[tulip sail]

does it matter if i feed the nuc plants with mark1 or mark 5 belts ? will the spliters still get all equally

right i just had the mats for mk1 so i was wondering of its ok mk5

i just want it to function

right lmao

[crisp grail]

Regarding lag, are there any issues with building obscenely large buildings?

single

i over built my base

its bigger than kibitz

its empty tho, i was mostly asking about pure entity count

is 20 gigs fine

some jitters and a few crashes but I thought i had the PC to beef it

[wicked nacelle]

I have either 10 or 100M uobject limit with no issues.

[crisp grail]

this game seriously needs to add fighter jets tier 9

[fathom shuttle]

Then add a tier 11 which brings towers to the game

And an achievement for doing the 9-11 tiers

[crisp grail]

Fighter jets would solve all endgame fauna issues and allow for quick clearing of foliage

would be a tremendous addition to this game

[vocal patrol]

this game

IS MKAEING ME TWEEKKKKK

[crisp grail]

if there were fighter jets youd be all good brah

[vocal patrol]

i love plaens

[olive sandal]

train can go all the way around the map, through 3 roundabouts but cannot go to a station sitting directly infront of it

this game makes zero fucking sense sometimes

IT CAN GO TO THE STATION RIGHT NEXT TO IT

WHY BRO WHY IS IT THIS STATION

I've spent 3 hours trouble shooting trains and train stations

this game wants to spite me istg

like fuck you

any other station

[boreal musk]

your station is backward

[olive sandal]

😭

[lofty juniper]

if you put a sumersloop into a machine can you take it out?

[wicked nacelle]

Yes

[lofty juniper]

that was quick

[wicked nacelle]

The game has virtually nothing in it that is a permanent bad choice

[lofty juniper]

ok ty

[wicked nacelle]

Everything that matters can be undone with no penalty

Or if you pick a dumb hdd recipe you just go get another hdd 🙂

In fact if you’re quick you can sloop two or more machines at the same time with one sloop 🙂 it only checks it at item completion time for the next cycle

So if you had machines that make one item a minute and you stagger them you can just move your sloops down the line as they finish

[crisp grail]

Game crashed 🙁

[wicked nacelle]

English it appeared to be

[limber crag]

What about death crates and vehicles from falling into any abyss?

[teal crown]

Hello!

[wicked nacelle]

I consider SCIM part of the game for fixing bugs 🙂

[crisp grail]

I got 32 gb ram and 20 gb vram

[wicked nacelle]

Post your crash screenshot

The one that pops up right after the crash

[limber crag]

Depends how many HD, sloops and spheres are in that death crate

[crisp grail]

posted in #screenshots

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah you’re out of uobjects so go up your limit and you won’t crash anymore

You paste some stuff into the end of engine.ini and yay it works. There’s also a mod that will tell you how many you have and warn you if you’re close to the limit

[ivory condor]

Worse. SCIM introduces more bugs

[wicked nacelle]

I’ve not had that experience. And I’ve fixed corrupted saves with it for people

[ivory condor]

I remember trying to copy a factory with it, the resulting factory then ran at single digit fps, with the worse frame times I have ever seen

[wicked nacelle]

Some guy ended up with a 200,000,000 meter long belt in his save.

[ivory condor]

I have, SCIM is dangerous🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

You are not meant to copy stuff like that, even if it allows you to do so

you are injecting stuff to a save file in the end

[ivory condor]

As i said it introduces more bugs

[wicked nacelle]

I think YOU are dangerous 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

You are doing the most bug-possible thing ever you can do to a game (adding something to a savefile as 3D object) and then say "it creates bugs".

[ivory condor]

Yeah me and SCIM seems to be a recipe to completely break this game

[crisp grail]

what would be a smart number to put my object limit at?

[ivory condor]

And i wasn't even trying to break it and still made the game unplayable

Look all i did was copy a factory with it and put it into another location, the game then decided to have a melt down

[mortal ginkgo]

what unreal engine allows, aka default

[crisp grail]

already over the limit

[mortal ginkgo]

build less

[crisp grail]

already built brother

[mortal ginkgo]

big rip

[crisp grail]

its actually not even all the way built yet

[mortal ginkgo]

build simpler

you dont need bazillions of decoration in a place that you wont ever visit again etc

object limit is not about pc

[crisp grail]

its preset at like 216 thousand

i got plenty

[mortal ginkgo]

Ok read it again. It is an ENGINE limitation. ıt is not a PC limitation.

[mortal ginkgo]

it is 2mil+

🤦‍♂️

[wicked narwhal]

hey guys I just have a quick question, me and my friends (from australia) are looking for a private server hosting service, do you guys have any recces? We already tried 2 but are dissatisfied with the service

[ivory condor]

SCIM allows it so I thought it was safe but I was mistaken

[mortal ginkgo]

I kek at your mistake.

[ivory condor]

But I learned my lesson dont use SCIM blueprints

[mortal ginkgo]

You might also have pasted the same setup more than once.

like multiple times in the same exact place

[frail sleet]

There's a 1.1 bug which causes the uobject count to massively inflate for for players to hit the uobject limit even though they actually only have say 10-20% of that limit in their saves. It hasn't been fixed as of yet. I don't run into it on new saves, but reasonable saves which were completely fine on 1.0 will crash every few hours unless the config is changed to raise the limit. After the 20'th crash i did that.

[ivory condor]

lords what happened, that save became very cursed after that

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh I know, it happens especially when fiddling with blueprints etc and it was present in 1.0 to a degree.

[crisp grail]

thats what ive been experiencing but then again i have built quite a bit

[mortal ginkgo]

However such issue goes away after a restart.

So if it is frequent, he might as well be close to the limit

[frail sleet]

It does, then it happens again 1 or 2 hours later. Even while your world is actually only 10% of the uobject limit, sometimes it will runaway and generate an insane amount of uobjects out of nowhere and then crash before it hit the limit.

[crisp grail]

it does but then placing a random conveyer crashes you out

[mortal ginkgo]

Again, this game's code is wack. 100% wack.

[ivory condor]

I keep finding people that have blocked me and I dont even know who they are

I live in such a strange world, everytime I look at it im just like oh another person and I have no idea why I was blocked this time either

[frail sleet]

have you considered not broadcasting bigoted things

[ivory condor]

I don't even know who you are....

See what I mean, this is straight out of the twilight zone

[frail sleet]

There are thousands of people here that read your public posts, they don't all immediately talk to you (especially if those posts are e.g. bigoted)

[ivory condor]

Hmm Marv has blocked many people now that I think about it

[mortal ginkgo]

I get blocked by random people in some... inclusive servers. Ironically I am excluded.

[ivory condor]

Well if me having a opinion people don't like that's kind of a them problem to be honest

[mortal ginkgo]

Some I don't ever talk.

[ivory condor]

But to be honest im 100% not a bigot, so that is very much unfounded and not based in reality, anyways

But this all sounds like some kind of bizarre projection, even though I have black friends, etc

But I guess having a opinion just makes everyone bigot now days, pretty boring

Seriously half the world is going to be a bigot by that standard

Yeah I know, as i said though this all is straight out of the twilight zone

But maybe these people are just gaslighting, makes about as much sense as anything else

I have accepted its all evil and I have become part of it

[vocal patrol]

welp gn yall after 9 houer im going to bed

can you afk in this game?

gulp

thnak you

same to you and can you afk?

bc now with my ifn ower

power

CAN I AFK

💔 💔 💔 💔

CAN

[crisp grail]

yea

[vocal patrol]

ok

gn

im only doing it for scool

[reef basin]

Whichever you want

[vocal patrol]

i got cast

[limpid cairn]

good

even tho screws are bad

[reef basin]

screws aren't bad

[crisp grail]

the whole point of satisfactory is to automate as many screws as possible, stop trying to troll man

[limpid cairn]

guys do i use biocoal for my aluminium fabric?

im tbh to lazy to build a train to the nearest coal node

[crisp grail]

coal power isn'tt meta anymore, i usually just go straight from bio to fuel gens

[fluid sapphire]

make sure you have enough ammo and explosives for the rest of eternity to kill all the local fauna

[limpid cairn]

wdym coal power?

[limpid cairn]

i got a basher and a dream dw

[fluid sapphire]

all good then

[fluid sapphire]

i was wondering what i should do with my leftover 10k iron ingots, thanks

[reef basin]

what, coal is definitely fine and definitely meta

[limpid cairn]

GUYS is sloppy alumina better than the normal recipe?

[reef basin]

depends what do you mean by "better"

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[limpid cairn]

more production rate or less resource use

ah i see the downside

[reef basin]

it uses slighly less bauxite and less water, but doesn't give you silica back as a byproduct

[limpid cairn]

it has no silica as by product

[crisp grail]

the ratios are abysmal if you plan on recycling the water

[reef basin]

clock speed makes any ratio just fine

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> Since Oblivion Remastered gave deers buttholes and OR uses UE5, will the next UE5 update add Lizard Doggo buttholes or cloacas?

[obsidian zodiac]

the next update actually removes Satisfactory from SignpostMarvs steam library

[ivory condor]

Lol

[leaden turret]

game is DRM-free, will always have Satisfactory

[ivory condor]

Do it

I double dare you

[junior laurel]

You do not get paid enough for this, I'mma be honest my guy

[ivory condor]

Shhh dont say that they always leave sometime after that

[obsidian zodiac]

that in particular is non-profit for me

[ivory condor]

Well it's over now Jason is definitely leaving soon now

[obsidian zodiac]

no its not my turn yet, mikael needs to go to japan first

[junior laurel]

Non-profit?
Feels more charitable

[ivory condor]

Mikael is going to japan, go on....

How many of them will go to Japan, maybe they are going to make CSS japan studio

Next announcement, CSS has decided to strategically locate to Japan now

[junior laurel]

Like half the team* goes to Japan

[ivory condor]

Seems like it

[junior laurel]

iirc Ben went last year.. or this year... I don't know what time is anymore :D

[ivory condor]

I have already crossed the point that time has no meaning anymore, welcome

[junior laurel]

Yee time means nothing

[ivory condor]

[prisma crater]

any1 know an alternative workaround (besides the save,quit and reload game) to get rid of the radiation poison bug (ie max radiation even though all radioactives have been removed ?

[rapid wren]

what do when finish gam

[prisma crater]

@rapid wren build more stuff , make your factory hyper efficient, make your factory more beautifull ???

optimize everything, create great designs for plants

[fluid sapphire]

finish? whats that

[prisma crater]

get all the badges

what @fluid sapphire says

[rapid wren]

🤣

[prisma crater]

it's never done

[rapid wren]

i'm not that creative, i must be lead

[prisma crater]

then optimize your factory...make it hyperefficient

[rapid wren]

is that an order?

[prisma crater]

design stackable parts so it's easyer to expand

and yes....why are you still here...get to work

[rapid wren]

stackable blueprints? like for smelting factories etc?

[prisma crater]

building blocks that you can place on top of each other needing only a few things to connect,belts,pipes and power

#screenshots message build sky scrapers like this

not beautyfull but efficient

[buoyant hedge]

hello

[rapid wren]

looks cool, would be cool to try and build only upward for scale 😄 so 1 piece of tech only takes a tiny amount of the ground floor

[prisma crater]

#screenshots message two particle accelerators stackable

[kindred plover]

Has anyone got a fix for the issue where a refinery has all the relevant materials and the outputs are not backed up and it hesitates between cycles resulting in like 80-90% usage (in this example using the sloppy alumina recipe) bauxite is coming in via a manifold from a train with a buffer and using a mk5 belt and mk3 Lifts into the machine. Pipes are full of water and no sloshing

[prisma crater]

@kindred plover it's likely your liquid out/input read up on liquids and pipes here: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

it will explain pipe and liquid behaviour and likely answer your question

[kindred plover]

For output I have 1 pipe per refinery that goes into it’s respective next machine. 1:1 ratio

Think I’ll try using a priority junction for water pipe as the aluminium scrap refinery’s are also at 80-90% deficit so water is hindered as I have a valve from the water extractors to not cause backup

Think I’ve just realised my issue 🤣🫠

[prisma crater]

also the valve's have a little feature that reduces flow when the pipe is not full...details in the manual

i use priority input and priority output setups with my aluminium refenery setup

also some alt recipes that create aluminium without the use of silica

[burnt ferry]

i cant have a lift splitter with an input from above AND from below because the splitter cant have two inputs.. but I cant have the input go to the side, somehow, either, can I?

[fluid sapphire]

uhh, no?

sounds like you are looking for a merger instead?

[burnt ferry]

hm... the direction is necessarily set when placing the merger or splitter, using the direction of the lift.. damn i hope they improve the interface to these... its almost always better to just use a normal splitter and then just put a lift to the side

[burnt ferry]

same problem, i need the merger to output sideways

[prisma crater]

you know you can reverse the direction of the lift by pressing R ?

[fluid sapphire]

you have enough tools at your disposal to solve this problem a different way

[burnt ferry]

yes? so i can change up to down. i need to change to side, its not possible

[burnt ferry]

yes sure.. but why would i carry a broken hammer in my toolbox? im not questioning that theres no other ways, still it would be great to have more freedom with them lift mergers

[prisma crater]

I feel I misunderstand your problem.... rotate - place lift - rotate/change length/direction - place lift does not work for you . could you try describing your problem again ?

[burnt ferry]

in fact i noticed, that lifts snap properly into mergers sideways while going almost fully inside.. maybe thats the way to have a 'lift merger' like that 🤔

[burnt ferry]

the lift mergers/splitters both necessarily have their one input/output at the top or at the bottom because those are determined by the direction of the lift you snap them on

so a merger will always have its output at the top or at the bottom.. and i need it to go sideways

i mean its a common problem with these lifts, i was just wondering whether there was some new solutions to it.. i am experimenting up and down with using a separate merger/splitter to mock the missing side throughput

[sterile blade]

A screenshot with added arrows might prove more useful than a lengthy description ^^

[burnt ferry]

but it all fails because you cant merge from above AND below

[burnt ferry]

have you ever seen a lift merger? it has two orange inputs going left and right.. i want one of them to be a green output

the lengthy description is why it is not possible currently

[sterile blade]

I think I understand your problem. I'm pointing out that a picture (or screenshot) with a square and a few added arrows could probably have saved you several paragraphs of text xD

[prisma crater]

could you describe or link to a lift-merger, cause I truly don't get what it is you are describing

[fluid sapphire]

Same problems exist flat ground with normal merger/splitter setups

You just suck it up with those and design around it

How is this any different

[burnt ferry]

yep

but ima try push that lift really deap.. maybe i can get it directly underneath

[sterile blade]

If I understood correctly, they want to do green rather than the current blue

[sterile blade]

(I'm referring to a picture that I'm failing to upload for some reason)

[burnt ferry]

 |
 ⋎ ----- input
<0> ---- 2 outputs left and right
 ⋎ ----- third output
 |

this is a normal lift splitter

 |
 ⋏ ----- first output
<0< ---- second output left and input right
 ⋎ ----- third output
 |

this is a splitter how i would need it

[sterile blade]

@burnt ferry kinda like this #screenshots message?

(blue arrow being current result, green the desired one)

[prisma crater]

Ah I see....stupid me played this game for ages and never realized you could also split/merge vertically on conveyors....(finished all phases without ever using that)

[burnt ferry]

yes, the second most obvious thing you want to do with a lift merger/splitter 😂 im sorry but its SO obvious to me.. im not trying to be impolite

[sterile blade]

Playing SF for years means the game has had time to change :P (vertical splitters were added at 1.0 iirc)

[burnt ferry]

it was added very recently

hence i said i hope theyll still improve the interface to it because its not too unlikely at this point

was it 1.1?

[sterile blade]

Might ve

[burnt ferry]

i think so... playing on experimental for a while now

[sterile blade]

The wiki page about splitters probably has that info ^^

[prisma crater]

I found that snapping splitters on the end/beginning of a conveyor works splendid (reduces the need for room which is very usefull on the mk1 designer).
however somewhere in the past a patch was made that snapping vonveyors real close on splitters no longer works properly (items no longer get put through), snapping splitters on conveyors does still work propperly.

[burnt ferry]

thats why i said have you seen such a thing 😂 i didnt wanted to be smartass, but its not unlikelyu that you havent used them until now

given that in fact you CAN do everything without them

[burnt ferry]

i like to snap the other way around.. thats what im trying now, because MAYBE i can push it as far such that the merger is in fact directly underneath the lift

you can push it very deep in and it still does the automatic belt construction like when snapping with that rubber funnel

the gist of the current merger/splitter on lift problem is: you need to use the lift inputs and outputs to make a vertical manifold

maybe i just build a blueprint for like a support for that, such that it doesnt float 🤔

[prisma crater]

@burnt ferry I use a bit of a workaround to get the conveyors splitters/mergers extremely close.
I possition a splitter/merger then (assuming I want a conveyer to go up) I place a ceiling mount on the spot I want the conveyor to end however I start placing the conveyor, first on that mount then connect the conveyor to the splitter/merger which causes it to snap really close on to it. afterwards i remove the mount.
I use stackable poles if it needs to be the other way around for the splitter/merger

[burnt ferry]

thats what i said... 'the other way around'.. the splitter/merger always comes second

you can also make shorter lifts like that

[prisma crater]

the splitter/merger snap to conveyor always works for me, the conveyor snap to splitter/merger seems to result in a non functional setup (no items pass through), this kinda sucks for me

[burnt ferry]

like you make them snap to a merger or splitter which is put to close to the other end of the lift.. the lift will still snap.. you can then deconstruct the merger/splitter and use the shorter lift normally

[burnt ferry]

a problem that this approach brings is that it forces you into an order to make the first and the second click

without that you are likely to always put it from input (where the lift would be orange) to output (where the lift would be green)

say you have a floor hole in front of a splitter output.... you want to click floor hole first, then at the splitter output

however, thats the lift going the wrong way

[prisma crater]

I gwill give this a try, I hope it also works when there are 2 lifts to snap on to for that splitter

[burnt ferry]

EITHER... put the other side of the floor hole first... OR press r to change build mode to 'reverse'

then itll snap.. you know it works, when it snaps after rotating into the right direction.... so if it doesnt snap there, your build mode is properly wrong and you have to press r

the same is when you build lifts with infinite height, here you have to click the floor hole second, so in case the lower lift end is supposed to be the output, you need to build it in reverse.... likewise it wont snap into the floor hole when the build mode is wrong

[burnt ferry]

you place the splitter first... unless you build 2 splitters at the same physical location the lift can always face only one splitter.. so say you have like one splitter//merger input for each side, itll snap into each on its own while rotating it with mousewheel

[abstract forge]

can explosive rebar break everything that nobelisk can?

[exotic pilot]

why do they make it so you cant open inv in hyper tube

[open hollow]

its able to break stuff like boulders, and other objects. the range is greatly reduced tho

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message apparently the far most you can push the lift into mergers is not enough to make it look like another lift merger

[abstract forge]

thats not an issue, i just realized 3 playthroughs in that explosive rebars are actually a thing and cba with throwing nobelisk anymore lol

[burnt ferry]

but maybe its enough to work as a horizontal input for the base

[boreal musk]

not everything

[abstract forge]

sad

[prisma crater]

sometimes you have to stand real close...which can be rather annoying, but it has it's uses, as it can be fired much more quickly just remember it's not a melee weapon

[burnt ferry]

aims nobelisk throws misses still explode them because frage nobelisk nobelisk is still 400m away and fell down another 150m

[dense violet]

It should

[boreal musk]

no, ex rebar cant blow up some stuffs like the big mushroom on blue crater, berries, nuts and bacon

try it yourself

[burnt ferry]

theres one shroom you cant explode

you have to chainsaw it

[limpid cairn]

how smart is it laying a railway line over the ocean?

[burnt ferry]

could be more than one

[sterile blade]

6/10

[boreal musk]

if you can chainsaw it, you can blow it up with nobelisk

[burnt ferry]

except for this specific one

it used to be indestructible

[reef basin]

depends if you need a train to go there

[boreal musk]

what is this specific one?

[abstract forge]

guess i'll just make both explosive rebar and nobelisk, its literally the same mats anyway

[burnt ferry]

the BIG ones with them bubble head

[sterile blade]

This one!

[boreal musk]

you can destroy it with nobelisk

[burnt ferry]

between red forest and desert

[burnt ferry]

not all of them, like i said multiple times now.. its only one, or maybe two

[boreal musk]

the indestructible one is the smaller mushrooms, and you cant use chainsaw on it either

the big one is destructible

[burnt ferry]

🤦‍♂️

okay then bro

[sterile blade]

BTW, there are 0 bugs in wether foliage can be removed or not. Always 100% correct results

[burnt ferry]

of course everything works as expected, hence people come and ask questions

'somethings wrong, what is it, help me'.. 'its this'.. .'nah its not!!'... 🤷‍♀️

[limpid cairn]

is there a way to snap blue prints onto the world grid?

[hard ivy]

Only foundations can be snapped to the world grid

So you have to snap a foundation first, then the blueprint to it

[hard oasis]

how do block signals work? im trying to place one and all it says is "Signal loops itself"

[limpid cairn]

bro

no way

i was working on a good looking railway connection for no reason or what

😭

[sterile blade]

Have you read their description yet?

[hard ivy]

You cannot just place one signal. Once you place one, the entire network has to be signalled

[limpid cairn]

i believe nobody does that

[sterile blade]

I guess I'm nobody now

[hard ivy]

You can snap blueprints to blueprints too

[limpid cairn]

You’re the top 1% of the smart splitters

[limpid cairn]

Yeah but the bp was designed to connect over long distances…

Also I just realised that the power cables didn’t connect automatically 😄

[hard oasis]

oh okay thanks

[limpid cairn]

Wait

Is aluminium scrap equivalent to screws ?

[sterile blade]

I call it Screws MK4

[hard ivy]

Same stack size

Idk what you mean "equivalent"

[limpid cairn]

Like as good as screws when filling up belts

[hard ivy]

Just process it into ingots immediately

Ingots are more dense

[reef basin]

"filling up belts" depends on how you build, anything can fill belts 😛

[summer willow]

Small quickie, are there such things as “smart merger” / “smart splitter”

[silk ocean]

There is a smart splitter yea

[summer willow]

Phew… what tier?

[abstract forge]

in MAM, splitter in caterium, merger in quartz tree

[silk ocean]

It's called Priority Merger

[summer willow]

Damn… i thought it would appear as an easy recipe turns out i need a “ai limiter”?!

[abstract forge]

its just copper and caterium

[silk ocean]

copper sheets + caterium. They're not too hard to make

^^ xD

[abstract forge]

it sounds worse than it is lol

[summer willow]

Ah… that’s weird. The fandom says “x1 ai limiter”

[abstract forge]

dont use fandom

[summer willow]

Alright xD

[abstract forge]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/

[silk ocean]

tip - you can hit the N key in-game and just type what you need, you can even do math in box

[abstract forge]

yes, but you actually need to have it unlocked to see it

items that is

[silk ocean]

True xD

[summer willow]

How easy is it to find caterium? I literally haven’t seen it anywhere

[abstract forge]

its like, uncommon

you can find random boulders of it laying around, then research it to scan for it

its a gold colored metal

[summer willow]

So just search caves?

[abstract forge]

not caves, i honestly dont remember any of them being in caves

but you know those random boulders of stuff just scattered about? those

[silk ocean]

About 17 caterium veins in the world

[summer willow]

Ah okay… lets give it 3 hours, if i dont find it then i’ll work out some sort of way to make a splitter without caterium xD

[abstract forge]

alternatively i can point you to one if you tell me where you are, unless you wanna figure it out yourself

[silk ocean]

Can you use your resource scanner for it?

[summer willow]

I’ve started a new world so i dont have too much. But like enough

[summer willow]

How does one do that? xD

[abstract forge]

do what? i remember where most of them are at this point lol

[summer willow]

Alright, yeah, well… I guess point it out! 😎

[abstract forge]

well i dont know where you are lol

[summer willow]

ah true. do you want me to send the screenshot anywhere specific, or in the screenshot channel?
nevermind

[abstract forge]

unlock the map lol, thats a big quality of life

lol

[summer willow]

#screenshots message

[abstract forge]

that detached rock/cliff south of you has a node

at the very edge of the map

[summer willow]

got it! Time to run/ crouch sprint jump

[abstract forge]

also there is one at the waterfalls to your left

but iirc the south one has copper right there as well

so its nice for that

[summer willow]

probs going for the detached

[summer willow]

Got it!

[burnt ferry]

indestructible by nobelisks, but chainsawable #screenshots message (-580,-370)

took a while.. had to replay an old savegame a bit 😂

[abstract forge]

oh they finally made the floaters destructible? they werent in 1.0 iirc

[burnt ferry]

ye you can chainsaw them now

[summer willow]

I've got the tree open, what should i unlock?

[abstract forge]

ruined my plans in the crater lakes in 1.0

[burnt ferry]

im not 100% sure if its those affected by the bug before, but all floaties i have found i could either bomb or chainsaw

[abstract forge]

just go straight down until you see ai limiters

[summer willow]

i need tons of caterium dude! I got 16 I probs need about 200 :(

the grind is unreal

[abstract forge]

time to automate then

[summer willow]

hmm? Say what?

I Can automate it?

[abstract forge]

well did you find the caterium node?

[summer willow]

yes... but i destroyed it

it was sideways tho, not like an iron node

[abstract forge]

so you found the boulder, not the node itself

[summer willow]

AH!

[abstract forge]

well unlock the first research for caterium in MAM, and now you can scan for it

(hold v to open the scan radial menu)

[summer willow]

I've found a node, however there's some huge rock on top of it

[abstract forge]

right

i forgot about that

[summer willow]

explosives?

[abstract forge]

yup, but you dont get those until a bit later

[summer willow]

hmmm.

[silk ocean]

I guess the good news is that if you find 1 pure or 2 normal caterium veins then that's basically all you need to complete

[summer willow]

[abstract forge]

well, theres also the node at the waterfalls 😄

[summer willow]

Going there now :)

[abstract forge]

im pretty sure that one doesnt have a boulder

[silk ocean]

I think I am drawing upon 3 now with Mk.3 miners overclocked, but generally I didn't need more than the 1 pure until late game

[abstract forge]

ye, you dont need much caterium until later
but iirc it has some uses in some alt recipes

[summer willow]

I just need those splitters man, I need to optimise my resource usage

[abstract forge]

i remember heavily using the caterium computer alt in my previous playthrough

[silk ocean]

It's a bit like screws - quickwire is a high volume product

[abstract forge]

oh i remember why, you can make a computer entirely out of oil and caterium with two alts

[silk ocean]

I need that alt xD

[burnt ferry]

you can make normal wire from caterium saving massive copper

its like 8 copper, 1 caterium to 30 wire

[hard oasis]

i think my game is bugged

[silk ocean]

I actually just unlocked that recipe yea

[burnt ferry]

theres two

[abstract forge]

tbh you dont really need to save massive copper until late game

[burnt ferry]

ones with caterium only the other is with copper

and there is quickwire with copper for higher yield as well

[hard oasis]

i deleted something that i didnt have space in my inventory for and it didnt make a dismantle crate

[silk ocean]

I have Wire, Fused Wire and Caterium Wire recipes unlocked yea

[abstract forge]

throwing stuff into the trash can in inventory doesnt make a dismantle crate

its a delete button

[hard oasis]

i didnt delete it

[silk ocean]

quicksave time xD

[hard oasis]

i deleted a container and it didnt make a dismantle crate

[abstract forge]

hmm, then i genuinely dont know, i avoid deleting full containers

[hidden dune]

Me too

[burnt ferry]

i think they changed the default where the dismantle crate is put at

like iirc it used to be where the dismantled site was at... but my buddy hasnt changed that setting and for him it was at where he stands..

[summer willow]

#screenshots message

[abstract forge]

noice

[burnt ferry]

which i disabled in my game as when i'm flying i can never find that crate

[hard oasis]

i found all the stuff its in a dismantle crate halfway across the map??

[abstract forge]

🤷

[burnt ferry]

check your settings

[silk ocean]

There is one dismantle crate in my base that seems to contain about 200+ items, I can't even be bothered to unload it XD

[sterile blade]

Existing dismantle crates can pool items from other dismantling you do in the area (technically a short area, but due to bug might just be anywhere on the map)

[hard oasis]

very very confused

[hard oasis]

its not even an existing one its like a brand new one

[sterile blade]

It's so that you don't keep creating more crates, as the items group up into fewer crates

[abstract forge]

yeah idk what to tell you lol, maybe it went on a trip

[sterile blade]

Now, that is weird o.O

[hard oasis]

there was a dismantle crate before but i picked it up and this one is in the same area but in a different location

[abstract forge]

oh fml

ive been building with mk4 belts but mk3 lifts
for the past 30 min
fml

why do all the lifts look the same

[hard oasis]

they are slightly different

[abstract forge]

the icons look the same

[hard oasis]

true i just have the mk4 ones in my hotbar

[abstract forge]

yeah i switched belts but not lifts

thank gods the splitters/mergers are not tiered

[hard oasis]

"can only split or merge 60 items per min"

[fluid sapphire]

would be redundant

[silk ocean]

splitters/mergers are as fast as the connected belts yea

[sterile blade]

Cough excpet programmable splitters cough

[hard oasis]

#screenshots message 🙏

[shy mulch]

programmable splitters programmable spitters

[silk ocean]

or just online? xD

[sterile blade]

He's watching us 👀
Trying ti find the right inspiration for another banger #satisfactory-memes

[limpid cairn]

i wonder when the devs will release a book for programmable splitters from ven cum sushi

[sterile blade]

First they'll have to make the Plumbing Manual.
Like... Why didn't they already put that in the HUB, inside the "piping manual" in the resting room, huh?!

[silk ocean]

I always seem to think it's the HAB - like from the martian xD

[bright helm]

Once a while I can't rotate block signals

Ts pmo so much

I have to exit to main menu in order to fix it

Pls tell me this is my skill issue and not a bug. Maybe I don't fully understand block signals

[fluid sapphire]

are you placing them on floating tracks? i dont usually have problems putting them on tracks that lay on foundations

[cedar portal]

Derailed trains, everywhere

More fun, loading saves before trains had collision 😄

[hard oasis]

is there a way to have 1 station load and unload?

[silk ocean]

You can set per freight platform

[hard oasis]

yeah ik but can 1 platform do both?

[silk ocean]

I think you need at least 2 for load/unload

[abstract forge]

as in the same wagon? no

[hard oasis]

so it cant unload what it has and then load new stuff in one platform?

[silk ocean]

Yes but one frieght platform has to be load, the other unload, etc

[abstract forge]

not in the same stop in the same wagon, no

you can have one wagon load one unload, that works

[hard oasis]

oh well ig this pretty looking belt system is staying

[silk ocean]

[Station Head -- Freight Platform 1 (Load) -- Freight Platform 2 (Unload) -- etc etc]

[abstract forge]

you could just put two stations right after one another and make it like that tho

but like... at that point just add more wagons

[hard oasis]

to much effort id rather keep 3 and just use the belt system i have its rather symbolic

to be fair there is 2 stations right next to each other but i dont want the train to go round in a loop before going off to its destination

[silk ocean]

It's very easy, just set one to load and other to unload, just remember to align the same wagons at the other end

(i.e. on the same station, one freight terminal to load and the next one to unload)

[elder valley]

UHH

i threw a bunch of nobelisks but i died before detonating them and now theyre just stuck in mid air and i cant detonate them

does anyone know how to fix it

[abstract forge]

try save and reload?

(or load earlier autosave for that matter if that doesnt work?)

or throw another one and then try exploding

[elder valley]

nvm i can swing my sword

and it blows up

[abstract forge]

well done, pioneer knight

[silk ocean]

Does shooting them work too? xD

[abstract forge]

i assume any damage does, considering hog boulder works too

[silk ocean]

Makes sense xD

[abstract forge]

havent unlocked nobelisks yet on this save cause i keep talking on discord instead of building lmao

dont tell ADA

[red steppe]

Hi, i haven't played satisfactory on my steam deck for a while, just gone on today and I cant do ANYTHING on the home screen, can anyone help plz?

[elder valley]

no idea, my nobilisks didnt blow up the nobelisks

[prisma crater]

@burnt ferry thanks for the tips, I got to snap the belts again in the way I want them, now this design works again #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Would have to test the shooting "for science" xD

[red steppe]

Never mind, my controls are working now.

Hi, i haven't played satisfactory on my steam deck for a while, just gone on today and I cant do ANYTHING on the home screen, can anyone help plz?

Was working on original controls but my layout isn't working 😦

Just realised it's working but still showing home screen

[bright helm]

yes. I place them without problems but there is a chance of them bugging

And then I cant rotate them

[fluid sapphire]

ok, well best i can suggest is add a temporary foundation underneath tracks while you are adding signals, then delete later

[jade frigate]

What’s the best tool to perfectly optimize your factory? For example, is there a calculator or website you guys use? I once heard there’s some kind of calculator that helps with factory optimization — is that actually useful?

What do you guys usually use?

[burnt ferry]

thing that helped me in almost every situation is to just build the signal on the wrong side as then the signal will snap easily on the correct side at the same place, after building the right one, deconstruct the temporary one

[fluid sapphire]

this is the best one probably
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

a lot of people also like satisfactory modeler on steam, i think its too detailed personally

[jade frigate]

ty

[fluid sapphire]

its very flexible in what you can do, it can handle feedback loops, alternate recipes, item inputs, limits etc and it doesnt try to force implementation details down your throat

[burnt ferry]

the steam thing has the advantage to not mess up your graph after you change some values.. everything stays in place.. and you can simulate the way sftools work by creating subgroups which you can provide arbitrary resources

[jade frigate]

Can I add there my hard drive additional reciepes?

I mean on steam one

[fluid sapphire]

i dont use that one myself

probably, yeah

[noble sand]

Im starting to build a heavy modular frame factory

[fluid sapphire]

well, i make subgroups on sftools, i dont really find that there is anything that messes with the graph when you change something, provided that your graph isnt already problematic to begin with

[noble sand]

jesus christ

how are these cubes so dense\

[indigo oak]

for me the best tool is https://satisfactory-logistics.xyz/

[burnt ferry]

i mean it reorders stuff.. the default ordering is pretty messy.. i prefer to align phases of procession..makes stuff a lot more readable

[noble sand]

There's like thousands of materials in these things

[silk ocean]

Wait till you get to the next frame XD

[jade frigate]

Is it possible to change the website language there? I'm not really and English person.

[twilit elm]

anyone know how to increase resolution of the screenshots? For some reason my screenshots look much worse than the in-game graphics

[burnt ferry]

steam settings prolly.. use windows+shift+s

[sinful zodiac]

or just the print screen button. apparently that brings up the snip tool now?

[fluid sapphire]

fair enough, i keep mine readable simply by making the modules smaller

[indigo oak]

doesn't look like it 🤔

[burnt ferry]

use browser translation feature

i use this to access japanese porn sites

works great

[noble sand]

I thought this was just a fun factory game...

[fluid sapphire]

that looks wildly over-engineered

[silk ocean]

Don't speak too loudly - Fixcit will have you in the office XD

[abstract forge]

sounds like you were thinking too hard on your last micro break

[fluid sapphire]

divide and conquer. make small sub modules and combine them

[noble sand]

i did that

I have a blueprint for a basic modular frame factory

so i made 5 of those

and im putting everything else in another blueprint

[hard ivy]

yeah, Logistics is a weird calculator. it has a couple more features than Tools, but it's overcomplicated imo. plus, I have no clue what optimizing for resources does exactly. because it's not the WP that tools uses

[sinful zodiac]

The Ficsit psychologists recommend not thinking about the immense pressure you are under or the complexity of your task

[fluid sapphire]

idk making fused frames actually seems simpler?

[silk ocean]

Yea it is tbh xD

[fluid sapphire]

just import the aluminum and hmf

[silk ocean]

Stick it in a blender

With a bit of nitrogen

[fluid sapphire]

i already have mine set up, just need to produce and import the alum

[silk ocean]

Alum is probably the most involved part of it, not a small task

[fluid sapphire]

ya im building stations everywhere to gather 5k bauxite

[silk ocean]

xD

[abstract forge]

tbh frames get way simpler to make if you take alt recipes into the equation
HMF can be made entirely from just iron and concrete, FMF just adds nitrogen and aluminum

[fluid sapphire]

indeed

[silk ocean]

This build I started in the desert and the nearest Bauxite was way down in the swamp, I ended up building Alu up north near other stuff and that was when I spent about 2 days scalining up global logistics xD

[abstract forge]

im planning to go big on this playthrough, just cover the entire swamp in concrete and ship all the bauxite there

... whenever i get there, i just got to steel lol

[silk ocean]

Encase all of the spiders in concrete too, while you're at it 😉

[abstract forge]

yup

make them bang their head on sweet, sweet concrete as they try to jump

[silk ocean]

Indeed xD

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[abstract forge]

huh, ive just realized (aka noticed on the map) that all the bauxite is just on the "equator"
4 playthroughs btw, i might be blind

couldve sworn there was some in the spire coast, guess not

[silk ocean]

It's mostly central yea, I can't recall about the spire coast tho

[abstract forge]

ugh, i hate the rocky desert
why did i decide to start here

[silk ocean]

north-west ?

[abstract forge]

yea

[hard ivy]

Best spawn imo

[abstract forge]

except for quartz, the cave is too awkward

(and SAM by extension)

[silk ocean]

initial Coal is fairly far away

[hard ivy]

At least they're there

[wet fox]

Rocky desert has good resource distribution all close together. It’s a pain getting trains set up there tho, too many cliffs and trees n shit

The quartz/SAM I just made a 4 stack of conveyors to get them out of the cave and into the factory I made at its entrance

[sweet tusk]

Are splitters and mergers supposed to be able to snap to the top of lifts? They look like they are clipping if it's intentional.

[wet fox]

Yea it’s intentional

[abstract forge]

i just led SAM to the east (since I have my steel there, so I'll just craft fluctuators there once i unlock manufacturers), and quartz i left inside with dim depots for now since i dont need it other than some small amounts for now

[silk rose]

isnt it ai slop in fan art?

[abstract forge]

AI slop? on my internet? its more likely than you think

[frail sleet]

by that logic hmf is simple, just import the hmf

[sinful bobcat]

Watched a factorio player play satisfactory for the first time… it was… scary

[noble sand]

ok i have all the machines set up

all i need to do now is spaghetti them together

[abstract forge]

factorio players try not to build main bus challenge: impossible

[fluid sapphire]

no, import prerequisites

[silk rose]

link

[wet fox]

I’m starting to make a new main hub just uhhh north? of the red forest, next to the crude oil nodes, but carting all my shit from the rocky desert to there is proving to be a challenge.

Getting a train up around the waterfall at the border to the crater lakes that doesn’t look like crap is testing my patience

[south lion]

Maybe try dimensional depots?

Idk if that would work fast enough

[wet fox]

I’ve got depots but it’s more I’m trying to set up a supply line from my iron/steel factories to what’s going to be my main hub in the middle of the map

[fluid sapphire]

the real logic is to subdivide and import, how exactly you do it depends on the particular case, but the principal is the same

[crisp crane]

You all think the oscillator Alt recipe is worth it?

[reef basin]

depends what do you call "worth" 🙂

[green fiber]

Insulated? It seems simpler and saves quartz

If thats worth it for you go for it

[crisp crane]

That’s fair. I have a setup with 16 manufacturers making the standard recipe but it’s not enough. Was considering swapping

[royal quail]

any ps5 news?

[green fiber]

none

[royal quail]

Thanks

[twilit escarp]

Is it possible to do a manifold system with trains?

What i mean is: i have one station suplying lets say 3 other stations, and once one of the stations is full, all the resources start going to the other 2

[silk ocean]

Yea using assigned wagon positions I guess

or smart splitters

[hard ivy]

yes, just set it to stop at the 3 station in sequence

on default settings, the train will unload as much as it can, then leave

[twilit escarp]

also, do you guys make 1 station per material?

[hard ivy]

yes

[twilit escarp]

or per location and then after the station, split the materials

[noble sand]

ok the heavy modular factory is complete

now i just need the materials

[silk ocean]

I generally unload and run through a series of smart splitters

[twilit escarp]

but you mix the materials in each station

or use one station per material

[hard ivy]

I'd classify sushi platforms as an awful idea

[silk ocean]

Mostly one frieght terminal assigned to a specific item

[twilit escarp]

i also pass through smart spliters just in case some train got a bad schedule

[silk ocean]

They work but I would agree not the best idea XD

[hard ivy]

just get your schedules right and you don't need em kekw

[silk ocean]

Just need to ensure you have overflow if you do that so it can't block up

[hard ivy]

I name my stations based on what's in them so it's not an issue

[twilit escarp]

yeah, but image somehow i did something wrong, now a train passes there with the wrong materials and then it breaks the system

[silk ocean]

Surely sooner or later that will get out of sync? If you have a busy shared rail network etc

[hard ivy]

never had that happen to me with 1 item per train/station

[twilit escarp]

as i usualy say, better safe than sorry

[hard ivy]

what sync?

[silk ocean]

When you say schedules what do you mean?

[fluid sapphire]

you would use containers as buffers to account for travel time variability i believe

[twilit escarp]

imagine you missclick and the train goes to the wrong station as example

[silk ocean]

I try to yea xD

[twilit escarp]

and only after a few travels you realize your mistake

[hard ivy]

the trains' schedules?

[silk ocean]

Gotcha yea

[fluid sapphire]

and minimize traffic by only letting a train leave a station after a full load/unload

[noble sand]

how much do these heavy modulars weigh

[silk ocean]

Drones have a different default logic I think? They stay until unload* completed, might be wrong on that

[noble sand]

they consume like 800 resources a minute

[hard ivy]

with the right alts, only 96.4 iron and 36 limestone each

[noble sand]

what

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=NRnFTKs4I8LiRVED5jNC

[fluid sapphire]

sounds about right

[noble sand]

that's for a fully clocked manufacturer btw

so 2 a minute

[noble sand]

oh

well i dont think i have any of those

[hard ivy]

lol I thought it's somehow 96.4 exactly, despite pure iron's insane ratio

but no, it's 96 + 1264/3159 lmao

[fluid sapphire]

of course it is

whats life without some spicy ratios

[hard ivy]

0.0001266/min more than 96.4

imagine your factory running at 99.99987% uptime because you supplied 96.4 and not 96.4001266

[silk ocean]

Not even playable xD

[hard ivy]

5s of downtime every 1000h lmao

[summer willow]

New leaked building?!
#screenshots message

[cedar portal]

nah, looks like a graphics glitch, the elevator has been shifted down so tthe top of itt is poking out of the ground

[summer willow]

ah, okay

[unkempt blade]

it's the new lizard doggo corral I bet

they finally listened to our feedback!

[cedar portal]

Are the number in the drone port broken? I'm using Ionized Fuel and the number in the window don't seem to have any relation to the fuel usage numbers in the drop down. I get 8.73 per trip, 2.29 per min, 5 minute round trip and in the fuel tooltip gives 0.052 per minute. It picks up 4 fuel each trip. That's not 2.29 fuel per minute, nor is it 8.73 per trip either.

As an aside, I asked Chat GPT to run the numbers and it said this hilarious bit of nonsense: "Drones have three engines, and the fuel cost listed (0.052/min) is per engine."

[hard ivy]

iirc there are reports on the QA site about the numbers being wrong

[cedar portal]

Ok, good to know it's not just me.

[dusky dagger]

#screenshots message
Who else thinks that cutting or blowing these "bubble trees" could make the "bubble" fly away ?

[white dawn]

(pre-typed paste inbound, btw) -- When looking at drone fuel consumption numbers on a drone port, there are some caveats to trusting the numbers:

1. Make sure you only look at the numbers after the drone has finished a couple of deliveries while in the game session
2. At that point, you can trust the "round trip time" number and the "fuel per trip" number, though the fuel-per-trip in particular is likely to be rounded on the display. You can divide those two to get the routes per-min fuel consumption
3. Alternatively, if you save the game after the drone's finished a couple of deliveries (again, while in the game session), SCIM does compute the fuel-per-min properly, so you could load the save in there to see what individual routes are consuming, without having to do math. :)

( References to relevant bugs in re: all of that: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6780c209c10ae65555c7a5ad / https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6780c4b2c10ae65555c7a5af )

With a bit of a caveat that those observations were all made with Batteries; it's possible that things might behave slightly differently on other fuels. Still haven't taken the time to run tests with those

[cedar portal]

Hmm, the fuel per trip of 8.73 doesn't match the drone's grabbing 4 per trip. The drone has been making trips for hours while I watch it. It always grabs 4. I even deleted the drone and placed a new one and it still just took 4 so it's not due to internal buffers or anything. Confused. Not a huge deal, I'm MASSIVELY overproducing ionized fuel so no dangers, I just like numbers to make sense.

[white dawn]

Is there also Ionized fuel on the remote side?

Could it be grabbing from both?

[cedar portal]

It shouldn't, eveything i read says it will grab enough for a round trip.

And it'ss 8.3 per trip, so 4 would not get it all the way there anyway.

[white dawn]

If there's fuel available on both ends, I believe that a drone will split between 'em. I've actually never done that myself so I'm not totally sure how it behaves in that circumstance

[white dawn]

The fuel-grabbing behavior in particular is a bit weird, actually. So it'll grab X fuel, which gets converted into an internal amount of energy which is a float. On the very first fuel grab, the drone is likely to grab more than it needs, if it's available

When when it reaches ports it'll top up if need be; so like on average the drone would be grabbing either 8 or 9 fuel units per trip; if it's splitting that between two ports, then it might be the remote port supplying the occasional 5 instead of 4

But so long as there was spare fuel when it first started out, the drone's probably got an internal buffer that's more than it technically needs

(It's kind of neat to look at the specific numbers; SCIM will show you the internal structure via an "advanced" tab if you click on a drone)

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6780c6efc10ae65555c7a5b2 re: the inconsistent fuel-grabbing behavior, fwiw

[sterile blade]

I've unironically had to worry about such imprecisions sometimes

[slate python]

How do you do this #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

logistics floor

[slate python]

Huh

[hard ivy]

you put all your belts below the main floor

[slate python]

Oh

[stray loom]

Use a conveyor floor hole on the ground right in front of the input or outputs and the run all the belts under the floor

Like KYO said, called a logistics floor. If you build multiple floors in your factory then you'll basically sandwich a logistics floor in between every production floor to keep that neat and tidy aesthetic

Have some dedicated spot somewhere to link all the logistics floors together and bring in the inputs and you have a tidy factory where you hide all that stuff. Some people like that look, some think it's too clean and sterile

[acoustic shell]

are having long conveyers bad?