satisfactory

[honest bridge]

Is there any know issues with clipping throug rocks in mp

[placid stirrup]

Would recommend a #1038092680493801533 thread with photos

[rigid ingot]

henlo! :3

[strong grove]

aight

[honest bridge]

odd i seem to be running into consistent bugs and error/game crash to desktop

[strong grove]

what does that mean

[dense violet]

1. not piped properly - going over throughput limit or not using headlift properly (most likely issues)
2. everything linked to one grid - piped everything together in one large link (really not recommended)

[ivory condor]

Game crashes, that's normal

[rigid ingot]

xD its your mandated 5 minute break

[honest bridge]

i can climb up hills with the parachute

[main topaz]

Also normal.

[honest bridge]

i have all my destroyed items go into one dismantle create

i filled like 12 large containers

[lean ferry]

guys if I do decide to recycle my waste to plutonium fuel rod should I just use them considering the low waste rate? or sink them

[honest bridge]

when using parrachute i phase through rocks

[lean ferry]

I can either get 25gw or get A+ vehicle fuel aswell as alot of sinkage points

[dense violet]

up to you? Do you want to store the waste or process it into ficsonium?

do you need or want the extra power?

[lean ferry]

im storing the waste ficsonium too expensive

[lean ferry]

I could always do rocket fuel, im chilling at 25k but I have alot of coupons and I alr have alot of packaged ROCKET fuel*

I know that encoders are gonna eat away at power

[honest bridge]

all resources show “N/A”

[dense violet]

eh Rf is boring, nuclear is far more interesting

[lean ferry]

and expensive*

waste processing is gonna kill me bro

[dense violet]

how? you don't use uranium for anything else and it doesn't take much else

[rigid ingot]

tbh ive only done nuclear power in one of my playthroughs. Rocket fuel generators are good for most of my builds :3

[dense owl]

i just did not worry about it

kept adding storage

[stiff ibex]

People are so averse to permanent storage for some reason

I have a storage facility in the corner of the map to store enough plutonium waste if I played for half a year straight

[rigid ingot]

knowing there is a finite element to the factory like waste storage stresses me out :c

[stiff ibex]

You can always build a modular section of waste processing

So while you're afk or exploring some of the waste will be processed

[rigid ingot]

though i guess permanent storage is how they do it irl xD

[white dawn]

Though to be fair, permanent storage of nuclear waste in real life is even less of a problem than permanent storage of nuclear waste in Satisfactory

[rigid ingot]

true that xD

[white dawn]

I do totally understand the desire for "clean" nuclear in this game, though. I've done both and in the end I do prefer the clean option

Especially now that we can process it all the way through without wasting power

[lapis crest]

Where is the cybertruck!? I need to get it for the achievement!

[white dawn]

You need to ||sink a coupon in an AWESOME sink||, after which time the schematic will be available from the AWESOME shop

Checkit dolin' out spoilers there!

[lapis crest]

oooooh so doing something useless without a good reason

That fits for Tesla

[tawdry quiver]

LogNet: Warning: UNetConnection::ReceivedPacket - Too many received packets to ack (256) since last sent packet.
Started getting this when I connect to my dedicated server ... never had the issue before.
It runs on a server on the same LAN as myc computer.

Any ideas?

[lapis crest]

I cant seem to find the shitty truck in my builder tab 🙁

[hard ivy]

Did you buy the schematic?

[lapis crest]

Oh its still in the hecking buying tab sorry im dumb

Ive been hunting spiders to get the coupons for the last 5 hours and listening to a Phantom pain analysis. My brain is spiders and phantom spiders and she needs to wear that she breathes through her skin such genious

How the hell do you even control this thing!?

[gritty spire]

do you guys know why scanning really doesnt scan everything. for example, theres a sam node extremely close to my base on top of this mountain. its way easier to get to but the one im using is further away. that one popped up on scan, but this one didnt

[lapis crest]

And my character is somehow underneath it. This is an amazing vehicle

[stuck grove]

How strong is the average pioneer

I think 1 ficsit pioneer beats goku atleast

[rigid ingot]

well you can carry 1000's of bags of concrete so.. xD

wait no, nuclear pasta would be insanely heavy

[stuck grove]

Also if you launch your self with the air tubes you go like fast

And like the fast speed doesn't hurt you

Until you hit the ground

[cursive crane]

Yea it does. Hypertube cannon lol

Impacting a wall at mach 10

[main topaz]

When comparing against Goku, the better question is "what arc does your character no longer be able to beat Goku?" Because the answer will always be Goku otherwise.

[cedar portal]

You can also carry thousands of rods of plutonium in your pocket, stand on a pile of containers with tens of thousands and be perfectly fine as long as you breathe through a filter.

[rigid ingot]

its a really good filter >w>

[fickle zodiac]

Hello, im new to the game

[lime ermine]

Hi new to the game, I'm Lambo

[viral egret]

what tree do i have to research to get the void storage or whatever it's called?

the one to avoid ultra long conveyor belts

[lime ermine]

Alien materials I think is the name

[willow birch]

it goes to the dimensional depot, under alien technology nodes

[young copper]

Doing 9 Fused Modular Frames, wasting 2.4k MW any thoughts on this?

This is a question to all of you

[south sinew]

dimensional depot doesn't do that; it just makes it more convenient for you personally. It can't replace belts, trucks, trains, or drones in terms of actual factory logistics.

[fickle zodiac]

Dad energy on this server is something else

[willow birch]

Miku asked about void storage

that's what they're referring to

[fickle zodiac]

How do I friend doggos ?

[south sinew]

I know what they are referring to, it simply doesn't do the thing they actually wanted it to do

[viral egret]

oh ok

[willow birch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/eiu39u/how_do_i_tame_a_lizard_doggo/

[viral egret]

i just dont like how belts look, what can i do to make them better?

i dont have blueprints yet, are trucks viable for ores and such?

[south sinew]

usually you hide them away, like place some foundations and then place the belts underneath for example

[rigid ingot]

or just make them neatly organised and straight

[viral egret]

no sorry, i meant like, placing them, it's such a bother

[rigid ingot]

are you placing them on foundations?

[south sinew]

are you placing them at maximum extent?

[viral egret]

yeah

[lime ermine]

Are you using straight mode?

[south sinew]

you can also place them whilst slidejumping on top of them which goes quite fast

[viral egret]

i wish i could place fundations and belts up in the sky somewhere idk

[south sinew]

you can

[viral egret]

i enabled fly for this run, so that's not an issue

[lime ermine]

Make a belt tornado like Josh

[south sinew]

I'm not sure how fast fly is, but if it's anything like the hoverpack speed, slidejumping on a belt moves a lot faster, horizontally

[viral egret]

belt tornado?

[rigid ingot]

noooo xD

[viral egret]

it's faster, i think

[lime ermine]

Watch let's game it out satisfactory on YouTube, you'll see

[rigid ingot]

it hurts...

[lime ermine]

His vertical factory

[rigid ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-satisfactory-satis-factory-gif-13296165766158799746

[viral egret]

#screenshots message

is it? i cant tell

[south sinew]

depends on the belt speed

that's definitely slower than belt 6 slidejumping but it might be faster than belt 1 or belt 2 slidejumping

[viral egret]

i was thinking of making a monolithic structure that elaborates everything with belts as inputs, probably up in the sky, and huge belt lines running across the sky to feed into that coming from all the miners in the world, but it's probably a stupid idea

i guess people dont make that early game

[cedar portal]

if it is fun to make, it's not stupid

[south sinew]

you can do it with miners that are not that far away

[viral egret]

it's just, the world is REALLY BIG

[rigid ingot]

yee play however you want 🙂

[south sinew]

#screenshots message

[viral egret]

yeah but that wouldnt be 100% of the possible input, you know

[rigid ingot]

though you might find it easier and less cluttered if you hide the belts under in a maintenance floor

[south sinew]

for that, you're basically going to have to go trains, yeah

[viral egret]

what am i even looking at, i love it

[viral egret]

in factorio trains are way earlier, that's why it's throwing me off

[south sinew]

my monolith, I won the game with this in the south of the west ocean and just used whatever was vaguely nearby

[rigid ingot]

looks like a processor lol

[south sinew]

wanted to use coated concrete walls but sadly they don't exist

[gaunt gyro]

Is there a way to make the blueprint designer remember what directory your blueprint is in? Having to reselct it every time I make an edit is super annoying

[lime ermine]

Crazy idea but I'm going to make all my ingots of all types in a single spot this playthrough

[rigid ingot]

they arent too bad, just big, and the rails can be a little awkward to build with. just takes practice ^^

[lime ermine]

They're also way simpler then factorio trains

[viral egret]

anything is simpler than factorio trains...

[rigid ingot]

I really should visit factorio again... i just miss the scale and beauty of satisfactory x.x

I just wish there were more teirs. I suppose theres mods tho

[tawdry quiver]

LogNet: Warning: UNetConnection::ReceivedPacket - Too many received packets to ack (256) since last sent packet.
Started getting this when I connect to my dedicated server ... never had the issue before.
It runs on a server on the same LAN as myc computer.

Any ideas?

[ivory condor]

Oh yes ack, so this is using tcp protocal

[tawdry quiver]

Any ideas on how to fix?
I run ARK servers as well ... no issues with those.
Only with this.

[ivory condor]

Idk sounds like the server is having a dos attack

Perhaps installing a hardware firewall would fix it

[tawdry quiver]

impossible to have a DOS attack ... it is already behind a firewall
no one else connects to it besides myself

[keen dome]

Yo!

[white dawn]

It might be worth asking in #dedicated-servers so the question is less likely to get buried, btw

[tawdry quiver]

thanks!!

[viral egret]

#screenshots message today is the day

[warped cypress]

is it better to use an alternate recipe like diluted fuel that gives less energy but more fuel or a type of fuel that gives more energy but less total fuel?

[livid kernel]

the better fuels

[naive palm]

Porque no los dos

[livid kernel]

like, turbo fuel beats fuel, rocket fuel beats turbo, etc

[warped cypress]

well yeah but if im using regular fuel but use a bunch of generators with that is thaT more then a few generators that give more energy?

[livid kernel]

as an example, using the diluted fuel recipe, you need 300 crude/m for 5000 MW. If you use the diluted fuel recipe in the turbofuel line, you can get the same 5000MW using 135 crude/m

you can more than double your power using the same amount of crude

[warped cypress]

oh ok

[livid kernel]

even without the diluted fuel recipe and using no alts, you will still save 30 crude/m by going to turbofuel

[viral egret]

god if the blueprint mk1 is gonna end up being a 1 fundation large thing i'm gonna be so fucking mad

[warped cypress]

alr ty

[livid kernel]

just reread what you wrote, the gens output a specific amount of MW, the better fuels just burn longer. Using my 5000MW example again, both fuel and turbofuel would need 20 gens at 100% clock to get there.

if that's what you were asking

[blazing bane]

Diluted fuel + turbo heavy fuel is straight up broken

[hard ivy]

I think you mean nitro rocket fuel

Because none of the 3 turbofuel recipes are particularly good

And turbo heavy is absolutely terrible

[heavy forge]

whats a good starter spot for a first base

im gonna do the smaller scattered ones strategy

[dense violet]

... wdym? you can't combine those

[livid kernel]

I haven't crunched the numbers, but just looking at it the turbo blend fuel alt seems pretty good

[blazing bane]

Nitro rocket fuel, my b, its the one that basically lets you create a metric ton of rocket fuel off of like 7 structures

[twilit escarp]

Which one is better? Alternate Polymer resin OR Steel Canister?

[dense violet]

they do different things.
Do you need either right now?

[twilit escarp]

i wanted the inverse of polymer resin

[white dawn]

There's no real comparing those two; both are probably at least slightly niche

[dense violet]

fairly niche yeah

[hard ivy]

Not really...

You're swapping out a quarter of the oil for twice as much sulfur. I'd just burn the regular fuel

(4 oil vs 3 oil and 2 sulfur for the same power)

[livid kernel]

fair

like I said, it was just a quick look lol

[dense violet]

I mean it's great if you don't want to ship coal as well.

and there's acouple spots with oil and sulfur that are convenient

[twilit escarp]

I needed the oposite of Polymer Resin, i neeed the more heavy oil and less polymer

[dense violet]

so keep rolling until you get the heavy oil residue alt

[frail sleet]

Is there really a good use for polymer resin other than early game simple plastic/rubber?

[livid kernel]

fabric

[hard ivy]

Fabric for filters

[livid kernel]

that's about it

[twilit escarp]

just for cleaning of mind: any alt i am missing a big value of? #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

I mean, the polymer resin recipe itself, which makes MORE resin out of oil. Fabric doesn't cost much of it so i always got plenty out of byproduct of HOR.

[blazing bane]

Am i wrong to feel like, given the complexity vs power yield, large rocket fuel factories with alt recipes are ‘better’ than nuclear power?

[ruby mountain]

get those inventory slots 🫠

[hard ivy]

Steeled frame, steel rotor, stitched plate, solid steel, insulated oscillator, cheap silica

[dense violet]

well as mentioned

you can make fabric with resin

steel cannisters is an alternate source of cannisters.

[steady glade]

solid steel is great if you have pure iron

[livid kernel]

I don't see the point of steel canisters honestly, 99% of the time you'll be making the canisters at your oil factory, and your oil factory makes plastic

[hard ivy]

Oilless LBF
I used the other canister alt for that, but steel works too if you have coal instead of copper

[dense violet]

if you need a permanent source of them if the get consumed steel would be good ?

better than burning oil on it and fewer refineries

[twilit escarp]

i meant the other recipes

[dense violet]

ah that's a great list of recipes. A lot of generalist ones

[livid kernel]

touche, but that would def fall into the 1% i mentioned to me honestly

[steady glade]

and wet concrete is pretty important too

[twilit escarp]

tbh i dont like those steel recipes, they make a simple recipe into an harder one

[fading compass]

Has anyone seen king fu

[dense violet]

which ones?

[hard ivy]

Well, I think they're simpler lol

Especially with iron pipe

[steady glade]

#off-topic-media

[dense violet]

steel frame and rotor?

[twilit escarp]

steel rotor, steel frame

[fading compass]

It’s a person dude

[dense violet]

... those often simplify things

[fading compass]

It’s a user on the server

[livid kernel]

steel rotor is freaking amazing

it makes the input items the same as stators

[dense violet]

you can make stators and rotors out of the same parts, and if you're making pipes you might as well make the frames out of them too

[livid kernel]

you can make your whole motor line off 2 manifolds

[twilit escarp]

you go from needing iron into needing iron, coal and copper

[steady glade]

oops my bad lmao, but why look for them here like a lost kid at a mall?

did you miss their id?

[fading compass]

Idk they are norm chatting here rn I didn’t just making sure he was afk

[livid kernel]

you need the copper anyway for stators

[hard ivy]

You don't. Iron wire

[stray loom]

Iron pipe and iron wire. Sure you need a lot more iron but you can do motors purely with iron with those 2 and steel rotor

[livid kernel]

then use iron wire for the rotors

[hard ivy]

And you don't need coal either because iron pipe

[fading compass]

Is anyone willing to help me get to tier/phase 5

[dense violet]

with iron wire it's just iron.
and again , stators also need steel pipes

and coal is everywhere

[livid kernel]

iron pipe alt

you can do it with only iron, it'd just be a lot of iron

[dense violet]

eh, you will generally need steel in the same spot anyway and iron pipe is ass. It chews through your resources

I think iron is a trash resource - and Iron Pipe still chews through too much of it

I'll spend iron like it's water. And iron pipe is still too much of an iron chewer

[hard ivy]

Iron pipe (+pure iron) = ~2.1 iron ore per pipe

Default pipe (+solid steel & pure iron) = ~0.54 iron and 1 coal per pipe

I'm taking iron pipe tbh

[livid kernel]

the default should be equal resources though. 45 iron 45 coal to 45 steel

[fading compass]

Hey ky0297 can u help me get to tier 5 or sum

[livid kernel]

the ratio is the same

[hard ivy]

I literally said "+solid steel"

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xIyCpkuZ613pL7oKuXmW

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots message

[timid tangle]

bro how is this invalid when ive made this exact shape like a gazillion times on the exact same factory #screenshots message

[noble topaz]

use a diff build mode?

may not be esthetically pleasing, but it'll work

[steady glade]

does it fail from both sides?

[versed plinth]

is there a reason there isnt a tab for people to show off their builds / build processes? I feel like that would be sick

[livid kernel]

There's a screenshots channel and a design and architecture channel

[steady glade]

#screenshots

[versed plinth]

yes but like as a thread. it becomes difficult to track one person's build for example

[lime ermine]

#1201555265942724758

[steady glade]

like a timelapse of pics?

[versed plinth]

no like a build thread

for example if I had a project I was working on I could just post there and then if anyone wanted to learn about it they could just go to that thread

[steady glade]

that'd mean people folllowing up on their thread

[versed plinth]

yes

it would be easier to do so if it were one thread

[steady glade]

sounds like a bit of a bother to make a whole log of my build progress if you ask me

[versed plinth]

you wouldn't have to and it doesn't have to be very in depth it just would be cool idk

there was another discord i was in that had it and it was great

[steady glade]

i guess #1038092680493801533 would work for that

[versed plinth]

i guess? but like a seperate channel

[steady glade]

i dunno, its not really been the vibe here to update on build progress, either you show the thing done or you show where you're stuck i guess

[versed plinth]

ig

dang it im missing an alternate recipe for this fuel plant

[steady glade]

go to the bambo forest lmao

[versed plinth]

i have the drives just didn't realize i unlocked more to research

[timid tangle]

nope none of them would work

[livid kernel]

it might be a half tick closer than the others

or just need to rebuild the lift or splitter

[timid tangle]

i had checked all the spacing and stuff i have genuinely no clue so i made it ugly spaghetti

[livid kernel]

I've had things that refused to connect until I rebuilt one of the items, then it magically worked again

[timid tangle]

i had done that too lol

[noble topaz]

is there a way to break a rock
this rock #screenshots message

[livid kernel]

not to my knowledge

[noble topaz]

if that rock didnt exist, i wouldn't have to build around it

[fathom shuttle]

All that’s left to complete my satisfactory journey is a simple alclad aluminum sheets factory

[dense violet]

at least you haven't built anything around it yet

[versed plinth]

im gonna crash out

[plucky seal]

I wish we could use nobelisks on big rocks

[versed plinth]

i have no way to get nitric acid because i dont have the recipe unlocked

which means i need particle enrichment which means i need fused frames which means RAHHHHH

[cosmic laurel]

i seem to be encountering a bug where when my inv is full and i dismnatle something the dismantle crate spawns nowhere near me. anyone know whats causing it?

[gaunt gyro]

Anyone else feel like power switches should show the power stats for each side of its connection separately? Seems weird to me that when you turn it on it shows totals on both sides

[dense dagger]

What's a good location for aluminum factory ???? I am in northwest corner and most bauxite coal and quartz are nowhere close to each other there

I have found bauxite and coal together but then quartz is like 1000m away

[dense violet]

... really? most bauxite is near coal. And not far from oil

[dense violet]

ah yeah that's why most peopel go Pure Ingot, to avoid the quartz

[dense dagger]

Sloppy alumina is a good alt too right???

just got that in one hard drive

[dense violet]

yup. I'd be wiling to bet that, after at least an initial set up, 90 - 95% of people do sloppy + electrode + pure ingot

maybe sometimes basic scrap

[dense dagger]

alright time to go more hard drive then lol

need that pure aluminum ingot

[dense violet]

those recipes are extremely convenient. And convenience is very valuable

[dense dagger]

got a good spot near my base with 2 adjacent coal and bauxite pairs

[dense violet]

most other convenient recipes have mixed fan bases, but that combo has strong support

[dense violet]

oh btw, with electrode scrap and other alt recipes, you only need like 2 oil pipes to process all the bauxtite on the map

plus it has a slightly higher scrap output

[dense dagger]

Today I found crystal computer and silicon circuit board and I am so happy lol

no more oil hunting for electronics

[dense violet]

not a bad combo 🙂
Cat comp and Cat CB can make computers just out of oil and caterium

I think there's a chain that's just oil + caterium for super computers too? can't recall

[dense dagger]

there's the top north west corner with adjacent coal iron and copper with quartz in the mine so perfect location for electronics

[dense violet]

I like the northern part of the swamp.
you can do a very large super computer factory there if you combo silica CB and caterium computer

[dense dagger]

Lucky me lol found the pure aluminum alt instantly

[remote wasp]

it's way better to do a fuel power plant with dilute fuel right

[dense violet]

oil to HOR alt to diluted fuel is potent, yet

[fathom shuttle]

Alright how do i transport 7 belts of random items without it looking like a complete mess

[meager rune]

can i just use one MK2 pipe to feed 20 fuel generators

[fathom shuttle]

Depends on the fuel

[meager rune]

normal orange fuel

[remote wasp]

if only I realized this before I built an entire traditional power plant

[frail sleet]

it depends on the pipe design too

[meager rune]

i have 10 oil refinaries making 40 fuel and 30 polymer. i was wondering if i could pipe it all together and just feed it into 20 generators in a line

[frail sleet]

probably, because it's 400/600m3

connect it to the middle of the line rather than to either end

[meager rune]

sweet. this is gonna produce crazy power

[dense violet]

unless yosu go digging in the wiki you really couldn't have known

[onyx fern]

Is it possible to have items both coming in and going out of a single drone port?

Like if I need to bring packaged sulfuric acid somewhere, can I have it packaged at the source, brought to the destination, unpackaged, and then send the drone back to the source full of empty containers to packaged the next load?

[gritty sleet]

My save just ticked over 700 hours...

[meager rune]

shes up in running, added another 5.5k MW

[gritty sleet]

Yes, I do exactly this with nitrogen

Packaged nitrogen one way, empties back the other way

[onyx fern]

Awesome, that makes this a lot easier, thank you!

[gritty sleet]

Just make sure you don't back up at either end, or the drone will get stuck

If it's not able to unload. Which is perhaps fine if it's "stuck" at the unloading end, and there's enough room for the empties to get loaded back on board.

[remote wasp]

well i did have the dilute alt, I just did very bad mental math adn thought it wouldn't matter

[onyx fern]

My idea is just to have a buffer on both ends to store more than is explicitly needed, but I suppose a sink for the incoming sulfuric acid is pretty smart

[gritty sleet]

That works. For my nitrogen I just didn't let the system fill completely up with empty tanks.

[onyx fern]

Sounds about like what I was going to do. In theory, if you only use a set amount of empty canisters, it should never back up since there's only so much that can be packaged

[gritty sleet]

Yep. My destination has a large pileup of packaged nitrogen as they got packaged over time, and then any empties from consumed nitrogen get returned back to the source to be refilled. It evened out after a while.

[cosmic laurel]

ive hit a bit of a snag with my first large power station, im trying to supply for 400 package fuel/min, im outputting 400 packaged water a min, my belts are mk4 and yet im not able to supply enough water. i tried filling up the refienery with water and it was at 80 and now its down to 30

[frail sleet]

sounds like you might not have enough water / packaged water in the system to fill the belts/pipes

[cosmic laurel]

i checked down, the packagers are all green as are the water pumps

[stone python]

checl the uptime %

[frail sleet]

but are all of the pipes and belts completely full? If they're not, it will just take time to do that.

[cosmic laurel]

yes

[cosmic laurel]

how do i do that

[stone python]

click the machine, it will show a %

[frail sleet]

press E on a machine and it says

[cosmic laurel]

hmm they arent all 100 but the ones that arent is because their output is full

[silver arch]

Ive played too much of this game istg i just had such intense reaction to a fuse blowing and i actually started physically crying this game is getting out of hand 😭

[cosmic laurel]

ah

one of the elevators was a mk3 :(

[dense violet]

get priority power switch, It'll keep your power station running

[dense violet]

are you packagers and unpackagers in their own manifold?

[silver arch]

yeah, i have a lot of precautions in case of emergency ive just been reworking alot of my older builds before i was actually planning for lategame so as im taking down and rebuilding things ive been learning how poorly made a lot of my very important infrastructure is right now but its around 12:30 and im kinda tired and i broke a train line and the fuse went out and i panicked so hard this game is actually taking over

[dense violet]

ah yeah, that's why I don't like spreading out my proceses for power across multiple ponits.

[silver arch]

ive kinda given up on doing more tweaking and im just gonna make it work im too far into this save file to really care anymore

i have no necessity to refurbish it all because im already halfway through phase 5 sooooo ill leave that to another save file

[dense violet]

can always just treat your current save as a sandbox after phase 5 and create systems from the ground up? much easier when you have planned out end goals

[cosmic laurel]

well there we go, went from 4k power to 24k power o7 should last me a bit

[silver arch]

that would be fun... right now im just trying to finish the game but if i feel like it maybe i will go back and fix some stuff...

[dense violet]

imo the tiers are just a really good tutorial 🙂 when you're done you can think of neat systems you think you could build that would be fun

me? eventually 1600 hmf pm

with specific recipes and some sushi load balancing

[silver arch]

whenever i talk about this game i always mention how the game introduces new mechanics and parts because it just makes the gameplay loop feel so seamless its beautiful

[dense violet]

oh yeah, the scaffolding to the learning process is perfect

[silver arch]

also the devs did so well with all of the quality of life features and it makes the gameplay so flawless and easy, the only challenging part becomes planning factories, managing resources, and checking numbers

[dense violet]

and you can use SFtools for amazing planning

[silver arch]

ugh the love i have for this game

[soft ore]

I LOVE SATISFACTORY RAHHHH

[silver arch]

oh yay just crossed 700 hours 😌

[soft ore]

Niceeee

I think I just passed like 400

I took a month long break from my city project and it’s so refreshing going back into it

I have so many new ideas for building

[silver arch]

right now im just praying that i dont need any more power for the rest of the game, i just need 4-5 more large-ish factories and then im done but i have to do it with around 20k mw with the stuff like particle accelerators and converters and encoders and i really dont wanna get into nuclear when im this close to done 😔

[boreal musk]

done laying all the tracks in red forest to grab all the bauxite, next is titan forest and swamp

[dense violet]

you could probably limp through phase 5 with that, especially if you allow the factories to go idle filling up with items

[silver arch]

satisfactory modeler is telling me that ill be able to survive but only with a few thousand megawatts so hopefully it works

[sturdy pivot]

i'm planning a new factory location that needs large amounts of plastic, no oil nearby. would it be easier to refine it closer to where the oil is extracted or ship crude oil to factory for refinement?

oil and new factory already have transportation in place as well as space, so not sure if it's a really big concern either option i go with

[dense violet]

well if you're doing the recycling plastic rubber loop, it's less throughput to move oil, but then you have to learn how to train fluids properly. So it's really up to you

which isn't very difficult. Just a thing to learn

[sturdy pivot]

i've been moving fluids already, is there something not obvious about it that i need to know?

[dense violet]

most people don't buffer them well at the train stations to get continuous flow? but maybey you're doing it right already

at least they don't without having looked into it a fair chunk

[sturdy pivot]

yeah i do that already, habit picked up from playing Mindustry

[willow glen]

All oil nodes have some water nearby, and recycled plastic/rubber requires nothing else. But it’s used for so much, especially with alts. Train the rubber and plastic. Don’t worry about moving oil imo

[sturdy pivot]

i will consider this. think i'll start building the rest of the factory and decide later, i also don't have those alt recipes yet

[dense violet]

It's a 3x expansion of units of plubber vs oil, so it'd be more expansive to move it but again... much of a much ness. You'd probably need bigger stations?

[willow glen]

well tbh oil is designed to be independent from the rest so no matter which recipe you choose, training plastic and rubber is easier than trying to train or long pipeline the oil imo

[sturdy pivot]

hoping to produce 6 supercomputer/6 radio control units at the factory so will need quite a bit

[dense violet]

oh ... that shouldn't be too much. got a tools plan?

[sturdy pivot]

like an online planner for inputs/clocking? if so yes

[dense violet]

yeah, just with basic recipes 1200 plastic. Which ... isn't nothing? but only 400 oil

[sturdy pivot]

is there any issue with transit delays? like, assume i have a freight train that completes a trip every 3 minutes including docking, and it picks up 3600 plastic. does that necessarily equate to 1.2k/min?

[dense violet]

well the time of hte trip and stack size of hte item and number of platforms determine throughput

as long as you have the throughput theres no issue

[sturdy pivot]

there won't be any other trains in that area to delay it so it'd be reliable

[willow glen]

transit delays can be an issue but they can often be overcome by adding more trains. More throughput can also be achieved by multiple freight cars delivering the same item. If all else fails, side by side train stations overcome both limitations, at the cost of bulkiness

[sturdy pivot]

i've been toying with the idea of more trains with fewer cars for more frequent pickups and less issues with weight, as i tend to build rails on the ground that follow terrain

ok cool. then looks like i have no excuses to start tonight

[dense violet]

the you can run into issues with that because more trains stopping at any particular station will decrease the max througput of hte platforms

each extra train stoping will add a 30 second pause to loading

an example of how more trains can actually decrease throughput

now it isn't always the case ofc, but it's something to watch out for

[willow glen]

Usually one car is good for 1500/min with mk6 belts or 1200/min with mk5 belts in my experience, but if you have a long train route or are unloading too many trains of the same item that can be smaller. Or larger if you’re more optimal.

[sturdy pivot]

i didn't think of that. thanks for bringing it up. i'll make sure there aren't delays with it, the distance is considerable to closest oil with my current transport

[dense violet]

it's very rare 1 platform can do 1200pm
at the absolute max with mk5 belts I believe you can manage like 1250 ppm on one platform with the most optimal stack size and route time

usually you're luck to do 1 belt per platform with mk5s
and less than that with mk6s unless you're running multiple trains on the same route.

[sturdy pivot]

i should have checked the number of buildings on my planner instead of just the throughput of raw materials. 129 constructors to spaghetti together...

[barren leaf]

sorry this is a day later but what should I refine to get the heavy oil residue? Rubber?

[cosmic laurel]

how do yall like to manage the production of the simple mats, like anything as complex or less so than reinforced iron plates. i dont wanna run out but i also dont want to be wasting a resource node because once storage is full it only runs like 20% of the time

[dense violet]

ah ok so there's two main alts to out put the most from oil

heavy residue alt
diluted fuel alt

turn all your oil into diluted fuel, and then you can do recycled rubber and plastic

[barren leaf]

OHHH i see i see

im going through harddrives now so hopefully they'll come up

[sturdy pivot]

i made factories to produce every part as i unlock them, so if i need reinforced plates i will put a smart splitter on the conveyor from my smart plating factory area and just overflow those and rotors once the container for smart plates is full

i don't waste ingots on the simple resources unless they are used for complex production

[willow glen]

It’s funny you challenge me on something I cannot prove with a screenshot (I’ve tried, the in-game tools do not have the required timeframe to show it accurately) but have not had a problem hitting 1200/min with just two mk5 belts, even with 3 trains delivering aluminum casing to the same station. 1500 for mk6 was a big undershoot, since overserviced stations matter more at that level, and I’ve only ever gotten 1800/min out of one with mk6 (possibly due to inefficiencies on my own end)

[trim vine]

One train car, as in a single frieght car, for 1200/ppm?

how short is that train ride for the throughput to be good?

Genuinely curious

[frozen cloud]

full throughput is:
2248 for 500 stack
2053 for 200 stack
1793 for 100 stack
1431 for 50 stack
897m³ for fluids

[trim vine]

at what timetable

[frozen cloud]

wait until full
using multiple trains if necessary

[dense violet]

Ican't imagine you'd be able to do many trains with each 27 second lock out they add

I'm surprised doing it with a single train could get you 2248

[trim vine]

-sighs-

[daring stag]

in real life conveyor belts don't go from the mining factory to the computer factory. what about using trucks from the mine to the station, and trucks from the station to the factory

[trim vine]

sure

that will work

[frozen cloud]

youre telling me my 2km conveyor belt across mountains is unrealistic???

[daring stag]

it must be destroyed

[trim vine]

if it doesnt clip it isnt

[frozen cloud]

but then again nobody seems to do 2km pipelines even though those are actually realistic

[daring stag]

you got a point there

Liquefied natural gas is more expensive than pipelined gas like nord stream (well that's closed now)

that's why we need boats to have realistic logistic chain

"The longest belt conveyor system in the world is in Western Sahara. It was built in 1972 by Friedrich Krupp GmbH (now thyssenkrupp) and is 98 km (61 miles) long, from the phosphate mines of Bu Craa to the coast south of El-Aaiun" well seems it's realistic after all 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

They very much do

[dense violet]

we don't have long distance enough chains to warrant it xD

[daring stag]

paradise islands to spire coast 🥲

[dense violet]

even that, the map just isn't very big

[daring stag]

I think it has the right size. There are places I never went/used, like Titan Forest

[dense violet]

yeah but corner to corner it's like 7km?

[daring stag]

47.1 km2 (or 7.972 km x 6.8 km)

that's half the size of a city like Paris (inner city)

[dense violet]

across is the real measure

a 7km bicycle ride is nothing

[daring stag]

tbh I really liked exploring the world, would have been cool if there was more to it like in Subnautica, with logs, some mysteries or something

[dense violet]

eyah apparently someone is making a subnautica esque addition mod

[daring stag]

how so?

you mean underwater stuff or story

[dense violet]

underwater stuff

[daring stag]

seems a bit hard to do but why not

[dense violet]

hell they could port most of the assets over xD

[daring stag]

actually I started a Subnautica playthrough after finishing Satisfactory, I forgot how you can actually play the whole game without making a single base

I'm already exploring 300m depths with nothing but the lifeboat and seamoth

I guess you can do the same in satisfactory by killing aliens for DNA and buying coupons for quest items

[dense violet]

yeah I keep going back to it with the idea of makign a big base, get all geared up with tons of resources in teh cyclops. But I can never decide where tobuild it and .. as to why. None of it does much. You can get away with like 2 rooms

[daring stag]

yup that's too bad. cyclops OP

[dense violet]

and apparently it's not lookign good for SN2

[daring stag]

not sure what's happening but it seems about money

maybe the game is still good who knows

[vagrant oar]

don't buy the game unless KRAFTON pays their dues

iirc by buying the game you're only boosting the bad guy here

[vagrant oar]

pretty much KRAFTON delayed the game to 2026 to avoid paying out a 250 million payout for hitting the 2025 deadline and threw out pretty much everyone who worked on Subnautica before

[dense violet]

that's right. pure awfulness. I remember now

[daring stag]

Krafton are the guys who lost a lot of money with Callisto Protocol if I recall

[vagrant oar]

KRAFTON is regarded as south korea's homebrew of EA

[dense violet]

that's extremely scathing xD

[faint reef]

why did ada call me rude for killing an enemy lol

[spare mantle]

What more could you literally add to satisfactory

Game is perfect

Dont get me wrong im looking forward to 1.2

But how do you expand on it besides like performance updates

[stable warren]

dang i just started playing satisfactory and i already love it

[burnt delta]

More stuff to research in the MAM I guess

[sterile blade]

You bring back Global Illumination for all signs

[spare mantle]

Time to research how to fix the caffeine addiction this game gave me

Honestly new buildables would be cool

Theres like two catwalk selections

I like the industrial one, but it doesn’t rlly fit when connected to foundations that also have industrial railing

The game already has a lot of stuff you can do dont get me wrong

I just like aesthetics more

Would be cool if theres like something thats lets you have new skins for machinery?

Though making models for all machines is expensive af

[fluid sapphire]

There are some gaps in the buildables: we don't have ramp variants for all the windows, for example

[spare mantle]

Ahhh fair

[fluid sapphire]

I'd like to see those gaps filled

[spare mantle]

We need new wall variants tbh

[fluid sapphire]

Agree

[spare mantle]

Cus like the ramp walls dont connect to stacked 1m walls

We need like a clean non-indented wall or wtv

Cus stacking 4 1m walls consumes the build limit FAST

[fluid sapphire]

Not sure what you mean, you can build big ramped walls just fine?

[spare mantle]

No I mean like the cutout ones

[fluid sapphire]

I can agree about a clean wall variant, sure

[spare mantle]

Not the slanted walls

[spare mantle]

Clean wall variants yes

[boreal musk]

automated doggos

[spare mantle]

Cus like on the steel wall

Try connecting a 1m ramp wall to a basic 1m wall

Theres a depth gap

I could go ingame and show you

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, for steel walls, sure, yeah I know what they look like, I haven't built that kind of ramp walls myself, it's all ficsit walls for me for that

[south sinew]

clean coated concrete wall I'd like

[fluid sapphire]

I can imagine it looks a bit odd

Yeeah

[austere lichen]

I'd love some asphalt being shown on the whole foundation. Plus make it change colors with the customizer tool

[astral knot]

if a freight car has plastic and rubber, and i specify in the timetable to only unload rubber will it leave the plastic in the freight car and unload only rubber?

[boreal musk]

just have separate car for each rubber and plastic

[astral knot]

oh my GOD i need move allll my freight stations again because i added another car my life sucks

[autumn skiff]

am i tripping or theres actually music playing when gliding through power lines?

[lean ferry]

Guys does respawning make you lose your stuff

[autumn skiff]

yes

but there will be a storage container with ur stuff in it

[lean ferry]

No like not dying like going escape and then press respawn

[astral knot]

yes

[lean ferry]

Bruh

[reef basin]

would be too cheaty if it didn't 🤷

[frozen cloud]

theres an option so you keep stuff and its not even AGS 🤷

[elder valley]

whens the next sale probably gonna be

[dense violet]

the next sale event

[elder valley]

thanks very helpful

[dense violet]

well what do you expect? why would a company ever tell peopel when the nest sale is goign to be?

everyone would just wait

and it probably will be the next seasonal epic/steam sale

[elder valley]

there are trends bruh

i said probably for a reason

[dense violet]

"and it probably will be the next seasonal epic/steam sale" <-- the trend

[elder valley]

ok

[frozen cloud]

bro we literally just had the "automation fest" that had a satisfactory sale and that was well known before hand

[dense violet]

Random event sure. Let me know when you know the next genre sale will be that also tags satisfactory.

maybe there'll be a 'games with belts sale' event. Let me know if you can figure that one out 😛

[lean ferry]

bruh I have no motivation to recycle my uranium but I want to

I did build a whole 50gw uranium fuel rod factory

but im too lazy to recycle to plutonium, but I know then im gonna have 400 containers lagging my world if I dont

[green fiber]

Containers dont really lag anything

Factories do

[lean ferry]

no but my pc is terible

so a 100 containers would lag my game out

[dense violet]

don't burn the plutonium?

[lean ferry]

No like

I’m lazy to recycle uranium waste to the rods

[vagrant oar]

five hundred industrial storage containers

[lean ferry]

My pc will self destruct

[reef zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

[plucky plank]

whats the best spot to start in the rocky desert

[sick dragon]

What could cause a path signals to allow conflicting trains onto the same junction?

[sick dragon]

Near the ocean

Like 6 iron nodes and limestone and copper right next to it

[plucky plank]

the bottom left?

[sick dragon]

Just the left

Just go west while pinging for iron. You'll find the spot

[plucky plank]

ight

[sick dragon]

The iron nodes are really close together

Its my go to start unless I decide to go with the sandy desert start

[plucky plank]

Yo

i found it

theres so much here lol

[sick dragon]

Told you lol

[plucky plank]

this isnt my first time tho i am restarting from my other world that was in phase 4

but i feel like i gotta restart

[sick dragon]

Every fsctory gamer ever.

[plucky plank]

yup

[abstract forge]

me:"im gonna do better this time"
narrator: does not do better this time

[sick dragon]

This save I've gotten the farthest I ever have(radio control units) and I intend to try and complete it. Right now im dismantling my rail network for something more realistic and decorating my factories

I guess technically it's super computers but I literally only built a temp setup to fill a storage bin of those. Its currently floating because the factory is dismantled lol

[plucky plank]

yeah for me i was going for rcu but i realised i made a bunch of mistakes

and i was just decorating to distract myself

but that got cooked

bruh i dont even get splitters off the bat that sucks

[sick dragon]

I may rework my turbo fuel plant tbh. Right now it a particular setup allowing me 2 blenders to 2 refineries to 8 generators and it's only got like 6 of those "units" and I do have rocket fuel now

Id gave to establish a huge temp plant though as im prolly gonna reorganize it

[plucky plank]

i went for rocket fuel straight away and it was very satisfying to see my power go from 9k to ~140k

[sick dragon]

Right now it's have a wierd signaling issue i can't figure out

[plucky plank]

i couldnt tell you a solution i set up only two train lines

signalling was too much hassle for me

[sick dragon]

Got an intersection that's allowing conflicting paths and allowing collissions

It theoretically shouldn't because I made sure the intersecting exits are all same height but im guess because one of the rails isn't intersecting at same height it doesn't count it as part of it for some reason

[cyan tendon]

Is there any reason why we could not get cross play multiplayer between consoles and pc? Thanks!

[boreal musk]

i wish the scroll wheel to copy setting from machines also applies to freight stations, having to set them to unload each is kinda pain

[sick dragon]

To be fair console development wasn't really a thing or announced until 1.0. This game being on console is a relatively new thing

Compared to games life span

[plucky plank]

not sure

have you tried replacing all of them on a different height

[sick dragon]

I've tried replacing all of it. It could just be the angle as it's not a standard t junction

More like a y

I could make a round about 🧐

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message
Y junction, perfectly fine in my end

[sick dragon]

That's a t junction

[boreal musk]

T or Y is the same

[astral knot]

should i put computers and circuit boards in the same freight car

[sick dragon]

It ain't a perfect y though to be fair.

[boreal musk]

it just a matter of path signal placement

path in, block out

[sick dragon]

Yup I follow that rule hasn't failed me yet

Will now

[astral knot]

are the signal stuff used for when you have multiple trains on the same track?

[sick dragon]

You generally only want 1 part per freight car or it becomes a logistical nightmare

[unkempt blade]

I do only block signals because I'm basic

[boreal musk]

if the signal is conflicting, try to rebuild the track and replace the signal, it should fix it

[sick dragon]

Its not that it's actually conflicting. The signal is fine

Its just allowing collisions to happen

[naive anchor]

hello, i cant seem to figure out how to make the train work, it says that the next station is unreachable... i cant figure this out help

[boreal musk]

collision as in train crashing to each other?

[sick dragon]

Make. A #1038092680493801533 post with screenshots and ping me and I can take a look

[sick dragon]

Yes. Its allowing them to reserve paths that cause a collision

[unkempt blade]

either your track doesn't connect the stations or your signals are messed up (probably facing the wrong way)

[boreal musk]

try rebuilding the track again and test it

[sick dragon]

Did that

[boreal musk]

still happen?

have u tried it on new save?

[sick dragon]

I think it's like I said I heard previously paths only work on the same height. One of the rails that has the problem is slightly higher than the junction

So im guessing it counts it separately

So prolly gonna have to redo the junction till it's flat

[abstract forge]

how much higher? ive had very scuffed junctions that worked fine

[boreal musk]

yea id recommend flat junctions

[sick dragon]

Maybe 1m

[boreal musk]

unless youre working with 3d junctions which doesnt need path signal at all

[abstract forge]

is it still the same color? when holding a signal

[wanton nova]

omfgg we have a coffee machine now 🥲

[cyan tendon]

Oh i thought it was planned since the start. I see thank you!

[sick dragon]

I'm working but ima boot the game up and put a screenshot. Ain't nothing happening anyway and I logged off at the last collision

[unkempt blade]

which are lots of fun to build but take a lot longer #screenshots message

[naive anchor]

omg i think i figured this out

[boreal musk]

basically factorio post 2.0 train tracks

cuz they added elevated rails

[abstract forge]

yeah, but in factorio you can blueprint them

in satisfactory theyre too big

[naive anchor]

the train station was pointing in the wrong direction... SMH

[abstract forge]

unless you segment them in some annoying way

[boreal musk]

yeah you need multiple bp parts for it

[sick dragon]

#screenshots message

provided a couple angles. righted the trains havent moved em. that 1 rail thats slightly higher seems to be the one thats causing it

[abstract forge]

the height is not the issue there

can you hold a signal and show the colors?

[sick dragon]

new one posted. looks fine that i can tell

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533 for these please

it's hard to follow conversation across multiple channels

[sick dragon]

fair nuff

#1400457587924926524 message

[sinful zodiac]

I have a quick question but I wasn't sure what tag to use. I have a visual glitch with my train

[elder valley]

will using drones to transport stuff across the map break my frame rate

[sick dragon]

shouldnt. usually being around a bunch of moving machines does that 😉

[wanton nova]

my dog keeps freaking out from the scanner 🙄

[mortal ginkgo]

use online map instead

[wanton nova]

thats ok 😎

[autumn skiff]

how do i make a Crystal Oscillator if i dont have a manufacturer?

[mortal ginkgo]

you can make them manually

[autumn skiff]

when is the manufacturer unlocked

[mortal ginkgo]

same tier that you get oil stuff

[autumn skiff]

ok

[astral knot]

omg my first real train collision

btw, if i set the unload only to none at a station, then it wont unload anything from the train, right?

[steady glade]

ye

[stable warren]

wait.. there are trains?

I love this game but now i love it even more, im just starter lol i only made some coper wire, cement and iron plate and bar farms

[reef basin]

*factories 🙂

[stable warren]

i wouldnt call it that yet

[humble osprey]

hey what coding language is satisfactory made in?

[stable warren]

my current goal is to build the space elevator

[reef basin]

well you're not planting the plates to farm them 😉

[humble osprey]

yes thats everyones goal

[reef basin]

C#

[stable warren]

its kinda pricey, thats why i made a copper wire factory then

[white dawn]

Yeah, automation's the name of the game! You'll end up making factories for literally/nearly everything. :)

[stable warren]

when do i achive more kinds of energy generators? Im currently using biomassa or whats it called, and its good so far

[stable warren]

ye i bet, i cant wait to make huge factories

[white dawn]

After you complete your first Space Elevator delivery

[stable warren]

hmm alright

[rigid ingot]

yeee you get coal power! ^^

[white dawn]

Yeah, few people miss the passing of manual biomass collection

[winged walrus]

oil production is so fun
how do i automatically void the plastic if my container is full?

[stable warren]

also my goal to this game is to not watch guides or tutorials and find out everything myself so it will be more fun

[reef basin]

awesome sink

[winged walrus]

yeah but i need to keep container full

[reef basin]

overflow it then

[rigid ingot]

smart splitters have an overflow setting

in the caterium tech tree

[winged walrus]

that's what i needed

i know, already researched those

[rigid ingot]

oh nice!

[winged walrus]

didn't know they have overflow setting

that's nice

[stable warren]

there is a fat 4 legged thing near my base, what is it supposed to be?

[steady glade]

go say hi, its nice

[stable warren]

i did and it just ignores me and walks away

[steady glade]

you can bounce on it

[stable warren]

dang

also i found a lizard doggo chilling at my base, how can i tame it?

i heared with paleberries but i couldnt or idk how

[steady glade]

get the red berries

you get 2 of them, crouch, drop one, step back a bit

the key is no sudden movements

[rigid ingot]

they are actually quite op, they bring you stuff randomly

[stable warren]

ooh nice

also i just got the converyor upgrade, so i can merge some factories together so i can make it smaller lol

[rigid ingot]

in the current play through, it ran off and came back to give me a nuclear bomb... like, where did you get this?!

[stable warren]

a what

ye im getting pale berries-

i actually have 7

wait how do i drop it?

[barren leaf]

can radar towers highlight hard drives?

[rigid ingot]

drag it off your inventory

[rigid ingot]

i dont think so, just shows how many are in the radius

[stable warren]

YEEE i tamed it

[rigid ingot]

but the object detector can find them

[rigid ingot]

yaaa! give it pets!

[barren leaf]

sorry, i mean does it even pick up hard drives but judging from your answer thats a yes haha

[rigid ingot]

yes it has a read out for them, but not locations

[stable warren]

also whats that big birb thats flying around sometime?

[rigid ingot]

they will wonder off so you might wanna make a pen for it

[stable warren]

a what?

[rigid ingot]

oh the manta?

[rigid ingot]

like a walled off area

[steady glade]

same as the bean, its scenery, you can ride it

[stable warren]

oooo this game has so many fun stuff

[rigid ingot]

you can also pet it....

[stable warren]

the flying birb?

dang

[steady glade]

no the doggo

[stable warren]

o

i know that

[rigid ingot]

the manta too

[steady glade]

huh???

[rigid ingot]

its an achivement xD

[steady glade]

damn i never bothered to try

[rigid ingot]

go pet it now!

[stable warren]

i cant fly yet, if i even can later lol

[rigid ingot]

yeah there are jetpacks and hover packs

[stable warren]

alr thats awesome

[wraith walrus]

anyone know where/how to report bugs with a video clip?

[stable warren]

ig open a ticket?

[steady glade]

done

[stable warren]

i hate walking from my copper fac back to my base

[rigid ingot]

you have hyber tubes too!

[steady glade]

stupid question but im not gonna slide off or get bumped off if i stay on it right?

[stable warren]

whats that

[rigid ingot]

you seen futurama?

[stable warren]

uuh not really

[steady glade]

a transport option you get in tier 2 or 3 i think

[stable warren]

oo nice, anyway i need 1.5k copper wire to get the space elevator!

[rigid ingot]

its a tube you can jump into and zooms you around

[stable warren]

ooh that gonna be really helpful

[rigid ingot]

so you can build a tube network

[steady glade]

kids next door, totally spies and stuff like that where they have a secret dropping tube down to their lairs?

[vague sparrow]

Orrrrrr, you can link entrances together and jsut fire yourself like a cannon

😄

[astral knot]

chat how do signals work? i already got to the point where i have two trains that are gonna be using the same station

[steady glade]

use block signal to cut the track into sections that fit 1 train each

[stable warren]

hmm this biomassa is actually pretty good, i dont have to get leaves every minute xd

[vague sparrow]

signals tell trains to stop when there is another train on the next piece of the track

[rigid ingot]

honestly its best to look up a youtube video on it. its more clear with the visuals

[steady glade]

use path signals where tracks join or cross

[astral knot]

is whether the thing is on the left or right side important

[fluid sapphire]

Not needed for splits, only crossing tracks

Afaik

[rigid ingot]

yes thats the direction the signal is facing

[stable warren]

should i get the base building upgrade or get the tier 2 upgrades?

[vague sparrow]

get foundations

[astral knot]

so two signals need to point toward each other

[steady glade]

sorry i corrected it i meant when they join

[stable warren]

alr i got it

[vague sparrow]

holding CTRL while placing foundations, snaps them to the world grid, so everything is lined up nicely

[stable warren]

i prob can get others too my factories are making pretty good stuff

[stable warren]

ty

[astral knot]

ah i cant post images here i forgot

[steady glade]

god no

a track ideally should have one direction

unless you specifically make a track for one train to go back and forth

and even then you'd place the two signals at the same place on each side of the track

[stable warren]

i used the foundation to move my hub away to a nicer place so i have more space and it doesnt look ugly

[vague sparrow]

Really wish we could name colour swatches, I'm starting to lose track of which one I used for what thing >.<

[steady glade]

there's a mod to get a lot more swatches, plus its preconfigured with a load of presets

[vague sparrow]

Thanks, but I am keeping things vanilla

My experience is once I start using mods

I tend to get bored of a game

[steady glade]

same

[astral knot]

#screenshots message
for reference these are my train stations

the one where im at is the one used by both the trains on green and red

[stable warren]

wanna see my factory i made in a day or less, its in screenshots if u wanna see :)

[full perch]

What ppl mostly use rubber and plastic for?

[vague sparrow]

@stable warren #screenshots message You can use splitters to utilize multiple constructors per miner

And now that you have foundations, you can make a factory floor 🙂

[stable warren]

hmm i see, can i put the foundations under the miders or no (stupid question but i wanna know)

[vague sparrow]

you can

[stable warren]

alr

[vague sparrow]

delete the miner, place foundations, place miner, this wya it snaps on top of the foundations

[steady glade]

#screenshots message use this site to easily show your tracks

[vague sparrow]

So it blends in with your factory

[stable warren]

alr ig i will remove everything

and make a factory floor

[vague sparrow]

foundations let you snap things in place in a straight way very neatly

[stable warren]

alr

I'll send results after im done okay?

[fluid sapphire]

#1038092680493801533

[steady glade]

a bunch of recipes, get a lot more hard drives, you'll find out how much plastic and rubber you want

[sick dragon]

Yes

[vague sparrow]

@stable warren #screenshots message like this

[stable warren]

wanted to say, i get it thanks but it got deleted, but ty

[steady glade]

but i guess if you want numbers (i wont be exact) || you can get through phase 3 with using 300 oil each for rubber and plastic||

[vague sparrow]

#screenshots message This is what happens when you forget to press CTRL when placing foundations lol

[rigid ingot]

sure! one sec

[astral knot]

one more quick question should the two circles on the signals be facing each other

[stable warren]

im gonna send another one later

im reworkign it making it bettterrr

[vague sparrow]

one of many 😛

[rigid ingot]

looking good 😄 now you just need to unlock some foundations so you can start paving everything

[astral knot]

like

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 |_____________|```

[stable warren]

yep thats what im doing!

[steady glade]

use the same build mode for the whole track to avoid confusion, and the arrow is meant to direct the flow of trains

[astral knot]

ohhhh

[uncut trail]

how do i load my freight card on train

i have it right under freight platform which is set on load and has iron in

[steady glade]

power the station, dock the train

[vague sparrow]

@stable warren Oh, one more tip, don't know if you knew this, but when you press H when you are about to place a building, you can nudge it with the arrow keys and page up/down, smaller increments when you hold CTRL when doing so.

[uncut trail]

its powered how do i dock it

[steady glade]

get on the train, drive it to the station and press f

[astral knot]

got working yayyy

[stable warren]

oh no i havent knew that, but thanks i will use it from now on when i need it

should i use a different storage for my cement factory?

or i can use the one i used for the iron bar and plate

[steady glade]

you probably would like the big one

[stable warren]

well im not that good yet

so im pretty good with the small one

[vague sparrow]

It's wise to keep items separated, later you get smart/programmable splitters, but if not set up correctly can still cause problems

[stable warren]

when i see kungfushadow typing i know he will tell me best stuff i can hear lol

[stable warren]

alr i see, but is it fine if i keep my metal bar and plate together for now?

[gaunt saffron]

Whenever I work with trains, I’m reminded that they can be both frustrating and cool. Chuh chuh.

[vague sparrow]

you can do it however you want honestly 😛

You will run into problems eventually and you will have to find out a better solution

That is part of the magic of this game

[stable warren]

alr i will seperate it for my own sake haha

[uncut trail]

can one freight station load 3 freight carts

[rigid ingot]

one freight station per car

[boreal musk]

at once? no

[rigid ingot]

so one train station could be something like:

front-freight-freight-freight-freight

if you wanted to load a train with 4 cars

[scenic socket]

Can we destroy those rocky curves?

[lost wagon]

If you can't bomb it, no

[rigid ingot]

not the arches no

only some rocks can be bombed

[scenic socket]

Awh, I had already tried putting a lot of nobelisks on them. Thought maybe it required nukes

[stable warren]

ngl the foundations make it much better, im gonna try to make a good oragnised energy lamp things so ik what goes to what lol

[rigid ingot]

yee try out the straight conveyer build modes too since you're on a grid

[astral knot]

oh my GOD i hate signals

[rigid ingot]

please watch a video on it xD its not that bad, just need to see them in action

[stable warren]

wanna see what i made so far? (i made the factories work on the foundations

[rigid ingot]

sure! 😛

[stable warren]

hold up i got stuck-

ye i have no idea how to get out

i think i gotta remove my hub

[rigid ingot]

xD oh no

[hard ivy]

Respawn

[stable warren]

i got it

[hard ivy]

But keep inventory first so you don't have to fish for the crate

[stable warren]

check screenshots

[stable warren]

how do i turn on keep inv?

[rigid ingot]

ooh lookling good! 😄

[stable warren]

im glad, its a concrete and 2 iron factory

i gotta make the copper one too now! and make a path to it heh

[hard ivy]

In the settings.

Set it to keep everything, not just keep equipment

[stable warren]

Oh got it, thank you!

[elder valley]

how many offloading stations should i do if i have a central megabase for everything

1 for each material or multiple/depends for each

[stable warren]

also will i need sulfur any time soon? cus i found so many xd

[boreal musk]

you already answer that yourself, it depends on how much youre gonna use trains to transport resources

[barren leaf]

whats better, packaging liquids beforehand then send them by train or just straight to the liquid freight?

[winged walrus]

second one definitely eats less energy and doesn't need plastic

[boreal musk]

loop it and you wont need extra canisters

[winged walrus]

right

[white dawn]

Either works just fine, though if you use fluid freight cars, you'll want to make sure to have the proper buffering on it. Some examples of those: #design-and-architecture message, #design-and-architecture message

[boreal musk]

liquid freight is fine, but you need extra care for the buffers

[elder valley]

So depends on each

[winged walrus]

am i able to place 2 locomotives

on one train

[ruby mountain]

yeah

[white dawn]

(An unasked-for caveat: gasses apparently don't play very well with buffers; if you end up needing to transfer gasses, the usual advice is to package those. Liquids can go either way though)

[boreal musk]

for gasses i just package them and use drones to transport them

[winged walrus]

that's cool

[barren leaf]

neat, how come the second one needs a pump though?

[white dawn]

Not my design, honestly don't know. :D

[boreal musk]

pump is needed to block the backflow

[barren leaf]

ah ok ok fair enough

[boreal musk]

cuz youre doing single buffer

and you dont want any backflow near the freight station

[barren leaf]

oh wait yeah oops i didnt look at it properly

[boreal musk]

tbh packaging is much less stressful

even easier with drones

[barren leaf]

drones seem sick

yo can we manually fly them??

[vague sparrow]

They're pretty cool

[boreal musk]

no

[vague sparrow]

You can stand on them and hope you don't fall off

[stable warren]

yo wha, my biomassa energy generator thing fuse keeps breaking whats the problem??

[barren leaf]

hmmmmm, close enough

[white dawn]

(spoiler: you will fall off)

[vague sparrow]

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't lol

[vague sparrow]

Not enough power generation

[white dawn]

That happens when the machines plugged into the grid are requesting more power than the bio burner(s) can supply

[sick dragon]

You are likely not producing enough energy on that circuit

[stable warren]

oh alr, time to make more then!!

[winged walrus]

drones are insanely cool but i haven't unlocked those yet

i need them rn sadly

[stable warren]

ty guys

[boreal musk]

either not enough bio burner or youre getting out of fuel

[sick dragon]

Love that they can run on other fuels instead of batteries now

[vague sparrow]

I think crouching gives a higher chance on staying on

[sick dragon]

Provides a good early way to use them. Until I start dedicating the swamp to battery production

[white dawn]

Vehicles and trains are also excellent logistics methods, though I agree that drones require the least work

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think there's also a specific spot you can stand to help, too

[boreal musk]

planning my rocket fuel plant and package some of them for drone fuel

around 300-600/min

[stable warren]

alr i made my copper factory on foundations too!

[winged walrus]

yeah, i gonna make a train ||there's a pic in #screenshots ||

[sick dragon]

Trains are just better for moving large quantities enmass

Drones are better if they aren't moving a ton at once

[stable warren]

prob my whole factory is on foundation right now, thats good right? also i sent a ss earlier how it looks have u seen it?

[sick dragon]

Satisfactory doesn't operate like foundry where it's powered through foundation

[boreal musk]

drones are very useful for grabbing resources in isolated area/terrains

[hard oasis]

for some reason my 600 output oil extractor is only outputting 300? even tho its a mk 2 pipe

[vague sparrow]

foundations just make things easier for snapping into place, so yeah it's good if you like neatly organized rows, I will check your pic

[sick dragon]

You have a mk1 somewhere along the line or it's not overclocked

[white dawn]

Building on foundations generally makes it far easier to build good-looking and organized factories, sure

[mortal ginkgo]

probably a smol mk1 pipe connection somewhere

[hard oasis]

its mk2 then splits off into 2 mk1s will those need to be mk2 aswell?

[sick dragon]

No but did you overclock the extractor yet?

[hard oasis]

yeah

[sick dragon]

You have a mk1 along the mk2 line

[stable warren]

ye, im glad ppl told me to, 1. looks organized, 2. much easier to see what is where and what it do xd

[sick dragon]

Its the only way that would happen

[hard oasis]

it goes mk2 output then a juction then 2 mk1s

[stable warren]

also there is a weird poision plants near my base, what the heck is that

[sick dragon]

Right but what im saying is you have a mk1 somewhere before it hits that junction

It will throttle the whole pipe

[vague sparrow]

A poison plant

[white dawn]

Find some sulfur and research it in the MAM; you'll have some ways to deal with 'em. :)

[dense violet]

post some overhead images in #math-and-meta , very hard to diagnose pipes w/o pictures

[sick dragon]

or #1038092680493801533

[hard oasis]

🤦‍♂️ i thought i swapped them all thanks

[sick dragon]

Find it? 😛

[hard oasis]

yeah the worst part is the pipe is like 3 meters long

[sick dragon]

Usually how it is

Or it's like a tiny sliver you would never notice

[hard oasis]

yeah thats how it was

[winged walrus]

what's the best way to get 160 plastic per minute

[sick dragon]

Or could be inside a pipe that's technically not connected but due to game mechanics treated as connected and was inside the pipe

That was a fun one I diagnosed for someone lol

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=rrBOuqR5Iakq4nsreote

[sick dragon]

Couldn't find it started demolishing the plant and found the small pipe lol

[dense violet]

depends what recipes you have. Likely it'll jsut be the basic plastic recipe

it'll also depend on what you mean by 'best'

[hard ivy]

Or https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=DbczXTfZQbiYWBrcVJMI if you don't have blenders yet

[stable warren]

i have bunch of them around

[hard oasis]

i js built 40 refinerys with 20 making plastic and 20 making rubber

[stable warren]

alr i got the field research upgrade!

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message why cant i make blueprints from waterextractors?

[white dawn]

Just a limitation of the blueprinters. I believe there are mods which let you do it (and there may even be shenanigans to achieve it in the vanilla game, but it's not intended to work)

[burnt ferry]

ye i tried to put the blueprint designer underneath the water surface.. that works but then it explicitly says you cant put the hologram into the designer

[white dawn]

Presumably they didn't want to have to verify that extractors in blueprints are placed properly on deep water

[burnt ferry]

ye good catch

[white dawn]

(I think that when you use shenanigans/mods to include extractors, they tend to provide water no matter where they're placed)

[vague sparrow]

smh, wondering why my train wasn't unloading all this time, forgot to set the cargo station to unload 😮‍💨

[fluid bluff]

yeah water extractors don't check for water after placement, so if you place them somewhere invalid through shenanigans or SCIM, they'll still work

[burnt ferry]

i mean its already kinda odd how the game determines whether its deep enough... i have seen places where i needed to swim to be 'not deep enough' when at other places where i was still walking were deep enough

[fluid bluff]

there used to be a bug where you could blueprint a geothermal generator and place it repeatedly for infinite free power lol

[fluid bluff]

the Spire Coast up north has so many areas of water that are barely Not Deep Enough to place an extractor, it drives me nuts

[white dawn]

heh, yeah, not-actually-ocean areas have been the bane of many a Nuclear-Power-Plant-Grid builder. :D

[burnt ferry]

i'm close.. its the center of the map where the desert, the bubble mushroom graslands and red forest border.. there is a pond and then some small rivers which are all not deep enough.. its terrible 😂

[rigid ingot]

also why are custom emotes blocked on this server? :c

like emotes from other servers

[stable warren]

yo i found a crashed thing and scary animals

[rigid ingot]

yeah you can get hardrives from them 😄

they unlock alternate recipes for building things ^^

[stable warren]

oh they were hog

i killed them i'Ll loot it

yep i got hte hard drive, so what do i use it for

[white dawn]

Research it in the MAM!

[stable warren]

alr

[white dawn]

Something which is very non-obvious: you can construct a new MAM right onsite there, slap the hard drive in, start researching, and then deconstruct the MAM

[stable warren]

nah im not that rich ahah

[winged walrus]

just made a kilometer long conveyor...

[stable warren]

i could but Im just getting leaves for biomassa

[white dawn]

Hard-drive scanning takes 10 minutes, so if you end up going on expeditions to find hard drives, you'll want to scan them "in the field" like that rather than waiting to scan a bunch when you get back "home"

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, a lot of advice like that is really for more when you're better-established. The early-game loop is just "do whatever you need to, to get the elevator built and the first delivery completed"

[stable warren]

but really, what do i achive from them i really wanna know

[white dawn]

Once you've got automatable power going you can take a breather and get to properly accumulating things

[stable warren]

also im really close to building the elevator

[burnt ferry]

always combine such trips with scouting for harddrives, spheres and slops

[white dawn]

Scanning drives in the MAM gives you "Alternate Recipes" which give you alternatives to the vanilla recipes

[burnt ferry]

youll end up in caves a lot where there is tons of mycelia, which will solve all your biomass problems very fast

[stable warren]

oh i have one close bjut there are bad toxic things that wwanna kill me

and how do i get up from there?

[white dawn]

One very popular recipe is "Cast Screws" which lets you make screws directly from Iron Ingots, instead of having to go through Iron Rods first

[radiant swallow]

why am i getting teleported into a detective noir movie when im in the swamps

everything is so grey

[burnt ferry]

in terms of 'how to get up' this game is like minecraft.. there is no gap and no mountain that you cannot reach

just build a ladder or some foundations floating

[white dawn]

With very few exceptions, alt recipes don't really have broad consensus as to whether they're "good" or "bad." (Cast Screws is one which happens to be quite popular in general.) They're just there to give you options

Like ordinarily a recipe requires X to build, but an alt would let you use Y instead

So you've got more flexibility with building factories and such

[burnt ferry]

cast screws gets overruled by 'go screwless' as well.. so there really isnt a common sense about this.. it always depends on your situation

[stable warren]

ooh i get it, thank you!

[mortal ginkgo]

Sometimes they also change the buildings required too.

[burnt ferry]

i prefer steel screws.. but my buddy made us use the cast screws recipe which still boosted our early game a lot

[stable warren]

and is there a way i could dodge thoose dum toxic things that wanna kill me

[sick dragon]

I prefer taking screws out of the equation where possible lol

[burnt ferry]

'go screwless'

[mortal ginkgo]

its very good early game as it saves you on power but yes, steel screws would be obvious better choice

they are getting too much hate to be fair, you can balance it out nicely with screws

[sick dragon]

Gonna have to be a bit more specific lol

[stable warren]

idk but i found like 35 rotors at the hard drive place

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes several people are typing after screws are mentioned. kek.

[burnt ferry]

so is 'go screwless' i remember, when i setup steel screws i was impresssed how many screws it was producing.. just that at the same time i changed my reinforced iron plate production to use adhered plate recipe 😂

[sick dragon]

SCREWS ARE EVIL

[white dawn]

One thing which sometimes confuses people, btw, is that the resources produced by the alts are identical to the vanilla-recipe versions. Like a screw made with the Steel Screws recipe is identical to a screw made with the vanilla Screw recipe. The recipe names can sometimes make you think that it's producing something different, but the end-result resource is just the same as it always is

[stable warren]

lol, there are like crab leg thingies with posion coming from its body at the caves

[sick dragon]

Spiders

Or cats of you are arachnophobic lol

[rigid ingot]

#screenshots message

my current playthrough >w>

[burnt ferry]

i would like for 'recycled plastic/rubber' to have some properties that make it less good as freshly produced stuff..like for example you shouldnt be able to re-recycle