#satisfactory

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ashen spruce
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You didn't connect it to a power grid.

dense cave
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apparently plenty of ppl get that as well

dense cave
ashen spruce
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Anyone rq?

unkempt blade
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We'd probably need to see what's happening off the right side of your screenshot. I'd assume it's some weird pattern over there

smoky forge
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then ill help

ashen spruce
smoky forge
dense cave
unkempt blade
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if you hold the signal and hover over the track you should see color coding for different blocks which might also help you figure out what's looping back on itself

dense cave
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smth else then

livid kernel
ashen spruce
# dense cave ok i did

You did connect it, but you don't have enough power production to sustain your factory.

livid kernel
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try turning off some machines and then flipping the breaker

smoky forge
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it will loop into itselfe

ashen spruce
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RIP then

dense cave
smoky forge
livid kernel
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if so, yes

ashen spruce
ashen spruce
dense cave
livid kernel
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are they connected together?

smoky forge
ashen spruce
livid kernel
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put a pole right in front of them, attach both to that pole, then run a wire from that pole to your factory

dense cave
smoky forge
livid kernel
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what you said should be 26 MW, both of those burners can provide 40, as long as they both have the fuel

hollow hazel
ashen spruce
ashen spruce
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You can't nudge Train Signals.

smoky forge
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not the sign

hollow hazel
ashen spruce
smoky forge
hollow hazel
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Yep. Just let it snap, then pulling... pulling... pulling.... Unsnapped? Place!

smoky forge
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and also did you get into path signals already?

ashen spruce
smoky forge
ashen spruce
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But it says conflicting entry type signals, although all Entrances are Path Signals.

smoky forge
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u dont have to use them just on junctions

ashen spruce
smoky forge
smoky forge
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first it checks also the next sign (most of the time a block) if it is occupied or not

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if it is then the path also will say no going through

ashen spruce
smoky forge
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both

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its rather simple but also not

ashen spruce
# smoky forge both

Yea, it blocks the block, but if it has a path through without the trains crossing it says "Pass on."

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So I understood it atleast.

smoky forge
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it can block blocks or paths before a train has ever entered it

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so that other trains dont enter it at the same time

ashen spruce
smoky forge
willow glen
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just to be clear, path signals

  1. make sure there is a clear path through to the next signal
  2. check the train’s next block to make sure its unoccupied.
    If both are true, train goes thru.
smoky forge
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like the train gives the signal his path and the signal gives the information back if that path is possible or not

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if not then it will just stay as blocked

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thats why it shows "waiting for path reservation"

ashen spruce
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I get it now.

ashen spruce
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Thanks.

smoky forge
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so the block after the path one and the block one

willow glen
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only automated trains can trigger path signals, and they can’t be already parked at it, but that only happens if you’re manually driving (for testing)

smoky forge
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you cant manualy give the path sign your path

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only the game itselfe can

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so an automated train

lavish lance
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i didnt realize crashsite dismantling would be that big of a change.
started a new save, and didnt have to hand craft a single reinforced plate.
what i got from the sites lastedall the way till i could automate them

smoky forge
lavish lance
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later on its still nice to track if you have been at that one already

willow glen
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I always dismantle them now, before I was marking them with unconnected power poles which was ugly but noticeable at least

wraith sentinel
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so the game has actually been released?

willow glen
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yup been out for a while now, already on 1.1 too

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phase 5 got added and I’d suggest starting over for the new voice lines, or at least start in tier 1

ashen spruce
versed plinth
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I do that sometimes tbh

ashen spruce
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I don't get it.

versed plinth
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can you post a picture of your junction

livid kernel
lavish lance
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early on its still very nice

livid kernel
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I didn't figure out I could until I already didn't care

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I put a bio burner close to a drop pod and noticed it got selected as well when i held ctrl to get all the burners lol

ashen spruce
versed plinth
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away from pc?

ashen spruce
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I left the game because I need to go.

ashen spruce
versed plinth
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ah ok. so what could be happening is that the block isnt being sectioned properly. I would check you have a few block sections here and there.

ashen spruce
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If that's what you meant.

versed plinth
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hmm

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OH, it could be that one signal is on the wrong side of the track.

ashen spruce
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Not sure.

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I checked every junction like 5 times.

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But I'll check tomorrow.

dense cave
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if i dismantle the hub, does the upgrade remain

livid kernel
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yes

dense cave
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cool

livid kernel
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you can even move the space elevator and not lose progress

mortal ginkgo
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would be so heck to lose all progress kek

versed plinth
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how does one do priority pipes

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my aluminum keeps backing up

livid kernel
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imagine getting to like tier 5 and wanting to move the elevator, then finding out you're back in tier 1 lmao

versed plinth
livid kernel
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true, I was figuring you'd move it by 5 though. I think if you're already in tier 9, the elevator has a permanent-ish location already

versed plinth
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is there a way to make hypertube cannons smaller aside from loops

hollow hazel
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One with just two entrances?

smoky forge
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only with mods

hollow hazel
# smoky forge there isnt any way

I could've sworn there was some kind of priority system. I saw a picture at some point. Like the.... bottom takes priority over the top, which takes priority over the straight.....? 🤔

naive palm
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it's a PITA but you can use packaging/unpackaging to prioritize fluids.

smoky forge
naive palm
ruby mountain
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its in the pinned messages

naive palm
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using gravity to prioritize. Like most plumbing it is genius in its simplicity.

ruby mountain
smoky forge
naive palm
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I said I hate screws in satisfactory. screwdat is the one exception now.

ruby mountain
ashen spruce
lost wagon
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I wish there was an upgrade to sink items in the inventory, like the upload one, if I dismantle all my railroad to remake it differently, that will be a massive amount of dismantle crate around

wicked nacelle
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i just wish there were a hotkey to trash an inventory item so you didn't have to constantly drag them to your trash

hollow hazel
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Unfortunately you either go to a container connected to a sink and dump every so often, or you control-drag your junk to the trash every so often.

keen hawk
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Why is thinking about playing satisfactory so much more fun than actually playing

south sinew
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because you don't have to deal with actually creating whatever you're imagining

unkempt blade
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or just vanity projects like my map-wide skyroad/train setup that aren't really necessary but I like to build

smoky forge
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ive just realies there is another trick

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mlg- clutching

hollow hazel
lost wagon
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If I try to make things look nicer, that's when I will give up playing, because it will never end up looking nicer

smoky forge
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u place a blueprint of a single bio burner with fuel inside connected to a power pole

lost wagon
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It's like minecraft, there is a reason my base are just chests scattered across the ground

keen hawk
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I know how i want my stuff to look, but bringing it across the map without drones is draining my soul

mortal ginkgo
unkempt blade
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beating the game in the most utilitarian way possiuble is a valid play choice though if that's what's fun 😆

lean ferry
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guys- I wana do nuke nobelisk but I dont wana do nuclear power rn

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should I do it now? or not

rigid glen
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No need to, you can do nukes from hand mining

lean ferry
rigid glen
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Or setup a miner into a storage bin

smoky forge
unkempt blade
lean ferry
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thats the point idk if it is worth doing it now or waiting till i do nuclear power

lost wagon
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My making it looking nicer limit ends when the next step is making an actual factory building, I don't have enough creativity to make a cool looking building that still house the factory inside, at most it will be a square box

rigid glen
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I just remembered I bumped up against this decision too, and I only made a handful of nukes before it was too tiresome

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Soerry

warped cypress
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whats a good way to bring items up to my sky train?

reef basin
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elevator

south sinew
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belts

warped cypress
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i put a ss in the ss chat

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look

reef basin
warped cypress
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o alr

lean ferry
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should I make nuke nobelisk? or stick with cluster

hybrid sierra
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#screenshots check out the screenshot in the channel and lmk what you guys think

lime ermine
rigid glen
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The only issue is crafting time and materials, nukesa re fun, but complicated, compared to all other nobes

marble torrent
fluid bluff
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oh wait, that's not a station platform at the top, my bad

you may just need to delete and rebuild a piece, looks like you somehow placed it in a way that it didn't actually connect to make a junction

marble torrent
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I just want it to hit two different locations before making its way back to the main factory

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Ok hold on, let do some rebuilding

reef basin
rigid glen
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I agree that's the intent, but people use screenies for basic questions all the time

rigid glen
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if it's too complex, then we shove them into the questions box 🙂

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head first

solid crypt
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is anyone else having problems with the game crashing every few hours?

fluid bluff
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trains will pick whatever the shortest path is to the next stop on the route

if the train is not picking the route you want it to when it reaches a junction, that route must not be the shortest path to where it's going

marble torrent
# rigid glen head first

Makes sense, honestly I would've deserved it. I should know better, I used to moderate a server hehe

marble torrent
solid crypt
smoky forge
cedar portal
smoky forge
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my pc could run satisfactory with like 600 fps and no lag whasoever

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but because i bout my cpu of amazon it shits itselfe every few times i try to join a game

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and crashed

cedar portal
marble torrent
smoky forge
solid crypt
smoky forge
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or fixed in this case

lean ferry
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help pls theres uranium near my bauxite factory but I cant find it apparently its rlly low I cant find a cave entrance

cedar portal
marble torrent
smoky forge
lean ferry
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so can I get help tryna find uranium node pls

smoky forge
red sun
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satis is generally cpu-bound

smoky forge
lean ferry
marble torrent
smoky forge
lean ferry
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I scanned it and apparently its rlly low and under a lake, and I cant get to it theres no cave openings

smoky forge
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im sure you are nto limited tho this specifc node

lean ferry
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they are very very far

smoky forge
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the map is very smal

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explore the map fully first

cedar portal
potent leaf
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map doesnt feel smal

smoky forge
potent leaf
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but i have a question that i havent had much help with, i researched a hard drive and was wondering if i should go with stitched iron plate or staemed copper sheat. or rescan

smoky forge
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and once you know how big it is and were around the corners of the map you will agree

red sun
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it's not a huge huge huge map but it's not tiny

potent leaf
smoky forge
red sun
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like it's not exactly easy to run out of space

rigid glen
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I need over 500 coupons for the last achievement, and I have no end game parts automated. Anyone know which part is best for cheap vs points?

cedar portal
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Ten minutes a LONG time. Sit still and don't do anything for ten minutes to try it out. 😄

red sun
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considering pretty much every square metre and tiny minutia of the map was hand-crafted, i'd say it's quite big. at least in terms of quality

smoky forge
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#screenshots ive walked around the map so much i know most spots for mercers spheres, sloops and hard drives

potent leaf
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yea 10 minutes its a very long time

red sun
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it's more than big enough, at least for me and 99% of people

potent leaf
smoky forge
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50% you mean

red sun
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i stand by 99%

bronze atlas
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Anyone know if this game has the ability to link signs to display variable data based on the machines you connect it to? Like for example if i wanted a sign to display the item inside a storage container and the total count stored?

ruby mountain
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If I just say coupons, is that app gonna react, oh it does okay then

red sun
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not many people run out of space; it's a factory building game before an exploration game, after all

lean ferry
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found uranium lets goo

cedar portal
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I've probably heard 99 people talking about how amazingly huge the map is for every 1 saying it's tiny.

smoky forge
bronze atlas
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okay thanks

marble torrent
lean ferry
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how many encased beams should I make

potent leaf
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I dont think satisfactory should be compared to minecraft

red sun
potent leaf
red sun
cedar portal
# smoky forge do you know minecraft?

Yes, I'm aware of how big the Minecraft map is. Doesn't mean Satissfactory is too small for the game it is trying to be. You couldn't possibly fill the current map with factories before your computer melted down.

red sun
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the terrain is part of the challenge, kind of defeats the point if you could just explore infinitely until you find somewhere better

solid crypt
bronze atlas
cedar portal
smoky forge
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but purely the map and for exploring purposes i find it rather smal

cedar portal
bronze atlas
red sun
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the map is more than big enough, but it's a mixture of it not being the kind of game to have a gigantic map and other games frankly spoiling us in terms of map size

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especially considering the fact that the map was pretty much entirely made by just one person

lean ferry
potent leaf
rigid glen
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lol

potent leaf
solid crypt
cedar portal
red sun
potent leaf
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based off that alone the map is wondourous and is one of the best maps ive seen in most games

lean ferry
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how many uranium fuel rods should I make a min? im planning 2 for now*

smoky forge
solid crypt
smoky forge
red sun
radiant swallow
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i noticed that caterium is only used for quickwire and normal wires, does that mean it's a viable stratagy to just ship around caterium ingots to factories i require after turning pure caterium nodes into ingots?

cedar portal
rigid glen
bronze atlas
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Well you could decorate the sides of your foundations to make it less ugly i suppose

rigid glen
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don't usually move raw ore or finished parts

smoky forge
# lean ferry idk

its up to you but beware, once you activate the production, everything becomes radioactive and u cant even go near your machines

radiant swallow
cedar portal
bronze atlas
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That i understand yeah. Maybe try using more verticality instead of horizontal factories, build skyscrapers?

lean ferry
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sloop manufacturer, I have synthetic fabiric

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ykw ima just do 4 fuel rods- thats 50gw power\

smoky forge
red sun
rigid glen
smoky forge
smoky forge
lean ferry
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OH WAIT MY SPACE ELE IS DONE I CAN GET TIER 9

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im gonna postpone this to another time

smoky forge
ivory inlet
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Guys I am going to LOSE MY MIND building my first train setup. I have 2 train stations which I am attempting to connect to a singular track, when I connect them, the rails assume that the train will be traveling TOWARDS the exit of the train stations and it wont let me place blocks facing the correct way. I have no clue what I am doing wrong, do I need to build the other train stations first before I start putting down the rails? can I post a screenshot here so you guys can see what the hell I'm talking about?

smoky forge
open pollen
red sun
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there should be an arrow above the rail in the building hologram

ivory inlet
red sun
smoky forge
ivory inlet
red sun
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9 times out of 10 it's a very silly mistake

radiant swallow
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i am not allwoed to use funny font

wicked nacelle
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can you change what settings a graphics preset sets? I tend to turn down graphics when I let it run in the background to decrease heat but when I turn it back to ultra it doesn't have the settings I want - they're too low.

sick dragon
wicked nacelle
sick dragon
lament niche
rigid glen
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My usual playthrough ends with Grassy being completely covered by a singular floor 🙂

lament niche
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you stay in grassy?

dense turtle
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can a trail derail at harsh terrain and idk some strong turns?

sick dragon
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Connect the foundations to the ground lol

rigid glen
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I've only played to end game once as a chronic restarter

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I like grassy 🙂

sick dragon
dense turtle
rigid glen
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but if I do another full run I'll setup my main area somewhere e4lse

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I like the thought of a base just off to the side of the crater biome

potent leaf
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i like starting in the like

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not the desert biome but one of the sandy biomes cuz its flat and almost all the nodes right nearby are normal

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coal is a bit of an issue tho becuase the closest nodes are like 1000km away and impure

rigid glen
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I think after all this time I've discovered I'm not a desert fan lol

potent leaf
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i dont like the desert with all the sandy hills

lament niche
potent leaf
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it seems terrible

lament niche
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nice ninja edit @taal

rigid glen
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points to my ninja edit

potent leaf
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i like starting in the rocky desert

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oh...

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cough

lament niche
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We know what you deleted Joe

rigid glen
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right now I'm, just wandering around routing whatever I can into sinks, I need 500+ for the last achievement

potent leaf
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alternative recpies tho, ive got an option between two. Stitched Iron Plate orsteamed copper sheets. or i can rescan the hard drive.. I dont think the steamed copper sheet is any good but is the stitched iron plate good?

lament niche
dense turtle
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wait so how do exatly train rails cary power

rigid glen
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Leave it as is and scan more drives, that way the odds of a good one increase

dense turtle
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my train station aint got power

lament niche
dense turtle
lament niche
potent leaf
dense turtle
true swan
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is stitched plate the one that uses wire? that pairs well with iron wire but i probably wouldn't use a more rare resourec on plates

potent leaf
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is copper rare? i have so much

lament niche
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copper is both abundant and the least useful metal ore in the game

potent leaf
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thats what i thought, ive got so much atm. im only using one copper node (normal) and making way more then enough of coper wiring, cables and copper plating and i havent even optimized it

red sun
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@opaque rivet #fan-art message
this looks cool. might want to use Open Sans though :D

red sun
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ha har hahah rhar

lament niche
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sans is an objectively bad style of fonts

red sun
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sans-serif is like practically every font these days

lament niche
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bro typed this using helvetica

potent leaf
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I like papyrus or wtv its called :D

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its very nice to look at imo

red sun
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they should make papyrus sans

dense turtle
potent leaf
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I hate undertale.

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/hj

red sun
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i have no opinions on undertale, never played it

lament niche
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Word was a better text document editor when Times New Roman was default

red sun
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i know megalovania and that's about it

potent leaf
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(ive only played genocide and have fought undyne 80 times and have taken an extended hiatus from the game)

dense turtle
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took me 4 tries lmao

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but sans like 30 probably

lament niche
red sun
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indeed

potent leaf
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allthough undertale has some banger music. I for one get some very strong nostalgic feelings from nvm (continued in off topic genreal)

lament niche
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anyways you should have the choice to use steel pipes to build pipes

potent leaf
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i dont yet

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i havent even unlocked steal produciton

lament niche
potent leaf
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oh 💀

lament niche
vestal mica
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very efficient

jade frigate
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Are Power Slugs only used for creating Power Shards, or will they have any other use later in the game? Can I safely convert all of them into shards without worrying?

south sinew
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the only reason to delay turning them into shards is because you want to do so slooped and you don't have sloops yet

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if you have sloops then just shard em all

vestal mica
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slooping and sharding. kids, we setup a sloop and shard in the back yard.

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sure it ruins the grass, but it's like double the fun!

dense turtle
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i got such a great idea for my train station names

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i will make up epic creative names

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like john iron

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or adam motors

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ik so epic right

inner echo
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I've had zero problems with byproduct recycling in aluminum forever...I understand it and my method works. But frigging Batteries? Nope. Can't do it. Just nope.

lean ferry
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guys should I use some bauxite to make ficsite ingots?

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or iron? or caterium

inner echo
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I've only ever used aluminum

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Only meaning...I probably shouldn't be answering.

south sinew
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use whatever you have excess of

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I personally would expect iron or caterium is more likely

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aluminium has a lot of uses in the endgame and I found myself quite short on it after doing Tier 8

dense turtle
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dang first time hearing ficsit ingot and i had no idea theres aluminum

inner echo
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Yeah...I've got my only ore to ingot aluminum blueprint 'machine' in a box(except water ext of course). Plop it down, plug it all in and 540 ingots come out.

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It's my only 'complete' blueprint due to that whole thing I mentioned at 20 after the hour.

smoky forge
fluid sapphire
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Theres basically almost no reason to make batteries at this point

ashen spruce
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Good Night Pioneers!
-# Feel free to apply for your own PERSONAL "Save The Pioneer" Pal, equipped with Nuclear Nobelisks. 100% OFF for the next 5.000.000.000 Years!

lean ferry
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ill do iron then

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I might do pure iron icl

south sinew
smoky forge
lean ferry
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nvm there is no pure iron

smoky forge
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input 1, output 2

south sinew
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seems like Classic Battery is way easier

smoky forge
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so great

lean ferry
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I cant do leached because all my sulfur is probably gonna e reserved to nuclear

ashen spruce
lean ferry
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as in like mam I thought i had pure iron in mam

ashen spruce
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When did they remove it?

ashen spruce
lean ferry
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all these alt recipes are terrible bro

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cooling device dont need, heavy flexible I alr got encased

inner echo
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Yeah. Just battery. And I am the same about sulfur...I wish there was more. And I dissed the leeched recipes until I finally used one and then the bottom fell out of my world.

woven tree
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Is there a mod on Satisfactory that adds more poses for photo mode?

inner echo
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Well...it's not really that I wish there was more...I wish the leeched processes became available sooner in gameplay.

inner echo
silk rose
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Does it convert ingots btw?

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Can i expand my steel factory later

fathom shuttle
smoky forge
silk rose
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How do i make ficsite

fathom shuttle
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So you can double the amount of uranium you have this way

fathom shuttle
true mulch
fossil iceBOT
silk rose
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Damn why no steel recipe

fathom shuttle
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Why would you waste SAM on steel?

silk rose
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I mean ficsite from steel

fathom shuttle
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Oh

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Well you can just use iron then

fathom shuttle
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Oh it’s fine now. Discord UI is unmatched

versed plinth
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Is 10 turbo motors/min a reasonable goal

smoky forge
silk rose
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Make 20

versed plinth
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Bet

silk rose
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10 is like full oc manufacturer

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Slooped

versed plinth
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I've heard 15/min is a huge project so like

fathom shuttle
versed plinth
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BWD?

fathom shuttle
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Ballistic warp drives

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You need thermal propulsion rockets for this which use turbomotors

silk rose
stray loom
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Turbo motors only get used for thermal propulsion rockets and constructing some high tier buildings

austere lichen
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Double it and give it to the next person

fathom shuttle
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Bro I’m out of SAM fluctuators

atomic notch
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Rip

stray loom
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Sloop the constructors making it

silk rose
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Jarvis im out of sloops

stray loom
silk rose
fathom shuttle
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Yea, with 2.5x power consumption

silk rose
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Do i need to change my pfp i made before photo mode update?

glass seal
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How can i install a mod for satisfactory if i have it on steam

glass seal
silk rose
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Satisfactory mod loader

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Navigate to modding server

versed plinth
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Bro all these end game materials have like 5 other end game materials feeding into them

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😭 idek where to start

elfin trellis
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i feel like satisfactory needs to be played modless, last time i used some mods it made me quit the game cuz meh

versed plinth
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Ig just using the satisfactory modeler is a good point.

versed plinth
smoky forge
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alone the game overwhelms 80% of gamers worldwide

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i got a friend who says he hates to organise stuff and gets an anurism if he needs to do so

inner echo
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It used to be I HAD to have a mod to do vertical nudging. Now I find that I really really desire the ones related to the addition of curved/splined belts/pipes. In particular being able to make much much longer splines.

livid kernel
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I had a pretty indepth decent sized factory built on satisfactory calculator with all the ratios and everything I needed, Windows updated overnight and I lost the tab forever 😭

versed plinth
tacit magnet
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Where are Blueprint directory settings stored?

dense bone
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how many somersloop can be found in the map?

tacit magnet
south elm
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Technical question, I want to build a PC specifically to run satisfactory on highest settings, is steam requirements good benchmark or should I aim for something else? I'd want a bare minimum that manages this specific game, i don't have that much money

elfin trellis
wicked nacelle
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the game bogs down on cpu as you approach using all the resources in the game -- even with distributed factories. it still has to simulate everything all the time. I have a 9800x3d and when I open one of my smaller worlds it amazes me the performance I get

south elm
wicked nacelle
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The nice thing is that performance degrades slowly as you build so you never really notice the difference until you open another world 🙂

south elm
#

Im having serious performance issues on mid settings with frame drops whenever I fight an enemy and it's all good on lowest settings but this game can look good and it pains me how ugly I kinda have to play it

elfin trellis
#

whats ur GPU CPU RAM

south elm
#

Gforce 1660 intel icore 9th gen and 16gb

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I should mention it's a laptop and it has some years

elfin trellis
#

ah well if its 4year+ laptop it might be the thing why it stutters

if ur budget is around 800 bucks im sure u can make a PC for high settings satisfactory
especially if we're talking about 1080p gaming

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3070ti is basically the "low-end"for 1440p gaming if im correct

south elm
#

That's nice to hear I don't care either for resolution over 1080 or fps over 60

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I just want a steady 60 on highest

livid kernel
#

Is the elevator actually handy? Like, it's cool, but I feel like I'd forget to use it since I'm so used to just using the jetpack. Trying to decide whether to spend my tickets on it, or something else rn

south sinew
#

elevator is pretty good yes

#

the fact that it can transfer power as well is very useful

#

and it has a better range than jetpack as well as floor labelling

spiral summit
#

there is nothing in this game more infuriating than truck stations

elfin trellis
wicked nacelle
livid kernel
fluid sapphire
spiral summit
fluid sapphire
#

For me, I have 12600k and 3060ti, I get mostly60fps but it gets worse when I do stuff that the engine isn't built to handle really (like tons and tons of machines, lots of glass and signs)

#

A mix of high-ultra, 1080p with DLSS balanced preset, scaled up from 70%

#

I think it looks pretty good xd, at least by my standards

south elm
#

Are there some any noteworthy performance mods for satisfactory?

fluid sapphire
#

Probably not anything that keeps the game looking good

south elm
#

Oh right, makes sense

stiff ibex
fluid sapphire
#

I literally upgraded my own pc to get better satisfactory performance xd

stiff ibex
south elm
#

I wouldn't mind being able to turn off animation of building stuff, placing huge blueprints is like playing Russian rullete with crashes..

stiff ibex
#

dont really wanna drop 1200 on a 5080 though

fluid sapphire
#

I had i5-8500 and RX580, the jump is huge

stiff ibex
#

what you got now?

fluid sapphire
stiff ibex
#

i had a rx 580 before, but upgraded to a 3070 ti

#

the jump in performance was insane

fluid sapphire
#

i5-12600kf, 3060ti gaming trio z, 2x16gb 6000MT cl30 memory

south elm
#

I hope coffee stains will continue supporting this game man

stiff ibex
#

of course they will, its an extremely popular game

south elm
#

Yeah but do they make money on it

fluid sapphire
#

I'm sure they will get right back to cookin when they get back from vacation

south elm
inner echo
#

It's just being in blueprint dismantle mode when everything is a blueprint (I blueprint foundations) that really gets my game a crashin'.

fluid sapphire
#

It's very clear the amount of passion that goes into this game

fluid sapphire
south elm
#

Oh yeah that could make them money

stiff ibex
south elm
#

I just hope for DLCs I would buy like the Sims amount of DLCs for this game

mortal dirge
#

I think they'll do DLC at some point

south elm
#

Yeah this game is very easily expendable

last tartan
south elm
#

Sandboxes rule when it comes to adding new stuff to the game

mortal dirge
#

Having a moon or another planet that you can travel back and forth from would be incredible

south sinew
#

satisfactory space age

inner echo
#

(I would say the truck stations loading and unloading if they can even smell a vehicle nearby)

frail chasm
#

Hi folks. Just getting started with trains. I'm running 3x Mk5 belts (780p/m) from crater lakes coal to a station below it in rockier desert. The train runs from here to beach islands to make rocket fuel. My question is do run each belt into three different freight platforms or 2 into 1 and the remaining belt into a second. Can't get me head around how to figure out transfer rates etc

south elm
#

Yeah planet travel would be cool but I honestly would prefer boats and other islands

mortal dirge
#

Boats would be so cool

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Imagine a giant barge of resources

spiral summit
south elm
#

But I think they said that they refuse to add anything water related since they didn't want to turn the game into subnautica

south sinew
mortal dirge
#

I hope they go back and flesh out phase 5 and the ending a bit. I'm not there yet, but I hear it's sorta abrupt.

inner echo
south sinew
#

the ocean in SF isn't deep enough for that

spiral summit
#

so despite editing the path they will still use the station and this is about the 10th time rubber has clogged my steel foundries so i deleted that truck entirely

south elm
#

Unfortunate, imagine some kind of oil nodes that can only spawn at the bottom of the sea and building a proper oil rig

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Soooooo cool

spiral summit
#

i have 0 space for another truck station so i have to improvise

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as in, i need an entirely different section for 1 truck station

#

stupid ass game

frail chasm
south sinew
tacit magnet
wicked nacelle
inner echo
#

How many stacks are transferred in a round trip. Set up your stations and sink everything on the receiving end at maximum.

gritty spire
#

are remote factories better than running everything back to your main factory? this game has grown boring due to the sheer distance i have to go to get what i need

spiral summit
wicked nacelle
wicked nacelle
#

train stations are great options for going vertical with

fluid sapphire
frail chasm
spiral summit
south elm
spiral summit
#

i learnt this the hard way

frail chasm
spiral summit
#

im working on making a road connection to everywhere so remote factories become a lot easier

gritty spire
#

i mean my base in the grasslands at the bottom of the map, i feel like i need to make a factory on the west shores for oil products. i hate my spawn base, tried wiping everything and got really bored to make everything again

south sinew
frail chasm
#

On that note, I do wish they made the teleporter available a little earlier than the last level

south elm
#

Also give asphalt roads 3 foundation in width to travel around in Explorer a shot, not the most efficient way to travel but very satisfying and you can also use them for trucks

south elm
wicked nacelle
wicked nacelle
frail chasm
wicked nacelle
#

the last tier of the game should have been "click on the map to teleport there" instead of the worthless portal system

south elm
#

Why portal system is worthless, I never made it to tier 9

zenith kestrel
#

Would there happen to be a mod for reliving the ficsmas's

wicked nacelle
#

because you can only go between portals and you have to pay to keep them open. it can be useful if you're working on a specific spot but for travel between a lot of spots you still need hypertube cannons and so since you have to have cannons regardless you don't need portals

frail chasm
south elm
wicked nacelle
#

If it were you could go directly between any two portals that could have been useful. but it's not

shell plinth
frail chasm
south elm
spare crow
#

any else experienced the unable to connect to servers thing even though steam is online? firewall is off and everything, no idea why, it just gets stuck "re-authenticating" and then gives up, and even though all my saved games came in from steam cloud (they're in the right folder) the game doesn't see that they exist....

south elm
#

I saw one guy on YouTube clearing down literally all of grass fields to make like 15 nuclear pasta a minute

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Yeah. No thanks

frail chasm
zenith kestrel
spiral summit
#

sometimes i think these trucks intentionally mock me

south elm
#

Same. I mean if atleast uranium nodes weren't in such ridiculous places on the map then maybe. We have what, middle of a cave, literally highest peak in the game and some random ones I can't remember

spiral summit
#

i told my truck to not unload on this specific station right,

#

you know what it does?

south elm
#

Not even a single pure uranium node I'll never forget them for that

gritty spire
#

how tedious is nuclear?

wicked nacelle
spiral summit
#

it then deletes the node where its supposed to load and begins loading at the one i told it not to

dusky iris
#

Hey, I’m having issues trying to get my friend to join my game, any suggestions?

shell plinth
south elm
wicked nacelle
wicked nacelle
dusky iris
wicked nacelle
#

so 10 pure coppers? Hardly half the copper

dusky iris
#

I’m going through a list of “fixes” but nothing is working

wicked nacelle
#

and copper really isn't useful for much in the game with the alts that let you use iron instead

sturdy pivot
#

which recipes do i need to shoot for in phase 4 besides sloppy alum and pure aluminum ingot?

wicked nacelle
#

There are 30 pure coppers worth of nodes

wicked nacelle
#

it's like 8% more aluminum than base recipe

frail chasm
south elm
wicked nacelle
wicked nacelle
south elm
#

Woopsie daise im not apologizing ÷ure right

dusky iris
#

My friend is having issues connecting to my server. It keeps saying that he’s lost connection to the host. I have literally tried everything. Does it matter that we’re in different countries?

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I’m using steam to invite him

zenith kestrel
#

OMG Modded FICSMAS IN JULY LMAO

sturdy pivot
south elm
#

2500mw is very underwhelming considering its just 10 fuel generators

frail chasm
south elm
#

I was sure nuclear powerplants makes like ATLEAST 5k on basic production 2.5k is a joke man sorry not sorry not worth the hussle

frail chasm
#

Or a portal...

wicked nacelle
shell plinth
dusky iris
shell plinth
#

alr back to building my train station and bridge

wicked nacelle
#

maybe try linking your epic account and starting an epic session and have your friend do the same and give him the epic://23948729347293487 thingy

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@dusky iris ^^^^

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make sure to set it up as a "public game" or whatever -- it's not actually public you still hvae to have the long epic number to join

shell plinth
#

hold on why is my train outlined red?

wicked nacelle
#

cuz it's on fiyaaaaaaaa

astral knot
#

Chat am i supposed to have one water extractor for every coal generator i have

shell plinth
#

lol but no they only been sitting there for at least 3 hours

warped cypress
#

Whats the best fuel to use for power?

astral knot
wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
#

you can overclocl water extractors up to 300 m3/min generation and the coal generator go up to 113m3/min consumption

shell plinth
burnt ferry
astral knot
wicked nacelle
sturdy pivot
#

why don't you do the math yourself

burnt ferry
#

just look at the numbers.. like i said it depends on the overclocking (also that of the water extractors

astral knot
#

Oh wait theres math?

burnt ferry
#

an overclocked water extractor can serve more than one coal generator.. however its power consumption will be higher than the plus water... in fact it would be best to have two water extractors or even three per coal generator as underclocking likewise reduces power more than linear.. but of course three extractors per genreator is kinda cumbersome. so .... it depends

pure condor
#

whats the hotkey to switch to a second hotbar

burnt ferry
#

alt mousewheel

pure condor
#

thanks

astral knot
#

I had 7 coal generators and water extractors and i wanted to try to have one water extractor provide for 3 coal generators because i was running out of space

#

I probably need to redo the whole thing ngl

burnt ferry
#

like overclocking the exractor to 250% will make it produce 250% of water but consume MORE than 250% of power.. hence your total power will be lower

wicked nacelle
#

but generators are 100% efficiency at all overclock settings

astral knot
#

Oh yeah i was only overclocking my coal generators

wicked nacelle
#

so if you have shards, there's no downside to overclocking them

burnt ferry
sturdy pivot
#

3 water extractors per 8 100% coal generators

stiff ibex
burnt ferry
stiff ibex
#

like a main portal area that has multiple other portals to different bases around the map

#

though it is quite expensive

astral knot
wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
sturdy pivot
wicked nacelle
sturdy pivot
#

250% coal generator uses 113 water/min

burnt ferry
stiff ibex
astral knot
#

I have like a really big lake next to 3 pure coal ore nodes

wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
burnt ferry
burnt ferry
wicked nacelle
#

water extractor power consumption is negligible at any overclock settings

sturdy pivot
burnt ferry
#

guys... the piont is.. overclockiing increases power consumptino more than linear..

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this is the important thing here

atomic notch
#

4-1.5 is the best coal setup imo

burnt ferry
#

and as far as i understood the info helped @astral knot

wicked nacelle
#

it's 50 vs 67.2 MW for 2.5@100% vs 1@250% water extractor

astral knot
#

Oh i just realized why i consume so much power, i overclock literally every constructor and assembler

wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
#

ye... thats what im saying.. i wasnt aware when i was a n00b either

stiff ibex
#

even early game its fine to overclock water extractors, unless youre really strapped for power

wicked nacelle
astral knot
#

Despite all my overclocking i am still always out of cement

wicked nacelle
#

wet concrete is a very good alt recipe 🙂 -- both for making more cement as well as getting rid of water if you haven't figured out how to recycle it

last tartan
stiff ibex
#

whenever i unlocked a new phase i would always start with the new power gen available so i wouldnt have to worry for the rest of the phase

astral knot
#

I killed my biomass burners

last tartan
#

you know what

#

i say, we need photo permissions in satisfactory channel

wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
stiff ibex
#

they work like capacitors

wicked nacelle
stiff ibex
#

though basically meaningless later on

burnt ferry
astral knot
#

Excited to see what power generation stuff i get after phase 2

wicked nacelle
#

new clear

stiff ibex
#

nuclear

wicked nacelle
#

nu-cyu-ler

last tartan
#

AMERICUH

burnt ferry
#

geysirs

#

not much but without input

stiff ibex
#

biomass burner only challenge

astral knot
#

Im sure my 2000 encased steel beam will be actually useful

burnt ferry
#

lul

#

they will be gone fast thats certain 😂

last tartan
#

RUAHHHHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

#

I SMELL OIL

wicked nacelle
#

mk4 belts are nasty like that

fathom shuttle
#

I just realized that having tons of power is kind of pointless
The max you’ll ever need is 500GW
And the most power intensive things you do in the game are ones that make power like ficsonium and APM

stiff ibex
#

its just as arbitrary as anything else

astral knot
#

I wanted to ditch my biomass burners because my friend said wood is not renewable

stiff ibex
#

youll never need 500 gw either tbh unless youre like 1000 hours in

last tartan
astral knot
#

Yeah thats why i wanna rely entirely on coal

burnt ferry
last tartan
#

i have 8 coal generators and 4 batteries, going great (do NOT somersloop assemblers)

burnt ferry
fathom shuttle
burnt ferry
#

thats one use of biomass burners.... so does oil

wicked nacelle
#

and if you accidentally overdo your power consumption, your biofuel burners would have kicked in and saved yer butt

last tartan
#

b a t t e r y

burnt ferry
#

yes

last tartan
#

gonna be dead serious satisfactory power storage is a lifesaver

stiff ibex
#

wish there was an industrial battery, spam placing blueprints full of batteries is lame

astral knot
#

I have never used the battery ever

burnt ferry
#

it is.. my max consumption is twice as much as my max production... i never run out because the batteries tank the peaks

#

(wouldnt work if it was permanently at max consumption obviously)

last tartan
burnt ferry
wicked nacelle
#

power storage is the building name

#

battery is an item that's essentially useless in 1.0+

last tartan
astral knot
#

Only using it just now.. i have like one battery at my coal generators while i work on figuring out this water thing

inner echo
#

I have some power storage on a sulfuric acid plant with next door geothermal. For looks and I like the 'self-sustained' look.

astral knot
#

Because i dont think adding 5 more pumps will help my case

atomic notch
#

I just put batteries on geothermals thats all i use em for

astral knot
#

Oh my god theres geothermal energy?

burnt ferry
wicked nacelle
fathom shuttle
astral knot
#

I cant wait to fall in my geothermal power plant and be shattered across time and space

fathom shuttle
#

All the map’s geothermal is 7GW

wicked nacelle
#

every once in a while I'd want to go home and be somewhere with no power for hypertube cannon but I'd find a geyser and boom. funcitonal cannon

astral knot
#

Ohh is that what the geysers are for

atomic notch
#

Its not really a power plant. Theres just vents u put gens on

#

Yeah

wicked nacelle
stuck oak
#

i get that tubes are faster but i ziplines seem so much easier, anywhere i want to go is gonna have a power line going to it

burnt ferry
#

for free

astral knot
#

Rn im about to get to phase 2, just waiting on 500 versatile metal things

wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
astral knot
#

I have so much excess coal. My coal generators are getting coal from 3 pure coal nodes

inner echo
#

geothermal is decorative mostly. And fun to use creatively when handy.

atomic notch
#

Yall use the priority switches?

wicked nacelle
astral knot
#

Gonna figure out a plan for tomorrow

wicked nacelle
burnt ferry
wicked nacelle
#

but I never run out of power so I actually never do that.

astral knot
#

Mass dismantle everything while one battery carries the whole factory then quickly remake everything

burnt ferry
#

so. the whole discussion.. is kinda...

wicked nacelle
#

power in this game is so simplistically modeled that there's really no need to do anything other than a big braindead single power circuit for the whole map

signal ibex
#

PS5 Release date?

wicked nacelle
astral knot
#

I was expecting power lines to lose power the further they went

burnt ferry
#

its a game!!!.. people play it the way they want to..

#

regardless of someones perception (!) of efficiency

astral knot
#

Also i lvoe the boombox

burnt ferry
#

note that im not saying that someones perception is 'right' or even relevant

burnt ferry
#

👹

astral knot
#

Awesome weapon to fight enemies at clifftops with

wicked nacelle
#

that's fine but you're just making problems for yourself to solve that don't exist. so when other people ask I just tell them not to bother. They can always decide that they think it's fun, but the correct advice is "it's a waste of time vs doing other things that progress you"

burnt ferry
astral knot
#

I just have the goat simulator tape so i can use the turbo bass

burnt ferry
#

thats one aspect of any game

burnt ferry
#

i love there is goatsim3 already 😂

astral knot
#

Im at bed right now but i feel like one unoverclocked water extractor can support 2 250% coal generators

#

I just have a good feeling about it

burnt ferry
astral knot
#

Oh dang no wonder i kept running out of water

atomic notch
#

Bruh

astral knot
#

Now just realizing it literally just has enough to support 1 250% coal generator

burnt ferry
#

16*7 is 112.. so you should be good with 15 extractors for 16 250% coal generators

#

but i rather round that up to 120 and make it 1:1 because its simpler.. i mean the overproduction wont be charged powerwise as the extractors just dont run when theyve produced enough

astral knot
#

Im not sure how much power pumps use but i hope they dont use much because i am gonna need a loooot of them

burnt ferry
#

so you dont loos epower by building too many extractors.. just by overclocking them

burnt ferry
wanton apex
#

Does anyone else have that problem where, like, your belts are absolute spaghetti, but like clean spaghetti? It's full of right angles but they're all wrapped around each other

burnt ferry
wanton apex
#

My spaghetti is clean

#

I'll share a screenshot in a bit

astral knot
#

Oh wow 20 is crazy

#

For such a small looking thing

fluid sapphire
mystic oriole
astral knot
#

Whenever i cheese enemies using ramps and foundation i feel like im in fortnite

livid kernel
astral knot
#

Especially now that i have rebar gun

burnt ferry
#

@astral knot the mk2 pump consumes 8 MW

#

the mk1 pump consumes 4

astral knot
#

I only have mk1 pumps rn

burnt ferry
#

you really only need them if headlift is above 10 m

#

you can see the current headlift in the pumps configuration screen

astral knot
#

Yeah i sww that some usually go above 10

livid kernel
wanton apex
#

okay screenshot time

astral knot
#

Though i only need one right? For each pipe?

burnt ferry
#

they can also deadlock certain setups

zealous rain
#

Mkay quick little question, do flat sections of pipe need a pump?

livid kernel
#

no tyler

#

only for headlift above 10m

#

taylor*

gritty spire
#

i heard putting a lot of hypertube entrances is better than a normal hypertube. is that true?

zealous rain
atomic notch
#

I have like 2 pumps on my whole world lol

burnt ferry
astral knot
#

Ok so at least i know my issue isnt a pump issue but rather with my extractors

fluid sapphire
gritty spire
#

thanks

burnt ferry
zealous rain
#

Im so worried about pipes being efficient thay I have pumps like everywhere dhddhdh

burnt ferry
#

producers have to finish the current production before the overclock gets calculated

zealous rain
#

I hate fluid logistics

burnt ferry
#

i solved quiet a few issues by removing unnecessary pumps already

zealous rain
#

Im not having any issues lmao

astral knot
#

Cant wait for this one battery to literally have to carry my whole factory. Bless her soul

zealous rain
#

At least… none that i know of

livid kernel
fluid sapphire
burnt ferry
zealous rain
#

I guess

inner echo
#

Pumps don't 'pump', they create a new maximum height the liquid will reach from the pumps center on the pipe.

burnt ferry
astral knot
#

Getting mercer spheres solely for lore purposes

livid kernel
#

also act as check valves. fluid can only go one way through a pump

zealous rain
burnt ferry
#

mercers spheres are extremely important for exactly one thing

fluid sapphire
#

Both branches

astral knot
grizzled lotus
#

satisfactory mid-game; 25% building, 25% exploring, 50% building railways

burnt ferry
zealous rain
#

Dude the power augmenter looks and sounds so cool

burnt ferry
zealous rain
#

I love it

burnt ferry
#

it is the most useful thing in the game

zealous rain
#

Dimensional depots are SO useful

burnt ferry
#

you never run out of mats when building

zealous rain
#

I have infinite bombs, right in my pocket

astral knot
#

If i run out of concrete i respawn and get more concrete

livid kernel
burnt ferry
inner echo
#

I have 16 dim depot for concrete. It's plenty 'fast'

burnt ferry
#

you have no idea 😂 obviously

fluid sapphire
astral knot
#

I only built one because i didnt know there was uplaod and stack limits

burnt ferry
zealous rain
#

I havent worried about going back and getting mats for a WHILE thanks to them

burnt ferry
#

hence mercer spheres are so simportant because you need one per depot.. and plenty for them upgrades

livid kernel
#

I'm actually torn atm, I have 5 mercer spheres and pretty much all of them (I think) around where I usually am. Not sure if I want to use them on a couple more mats now, or save untll I get 1 more and increase stack size

inner echo
#

I meant for just 8...but once I got rubber concrete...I just left the traditional concrete plant in place to 'empty'.

burnt ferry
#

wet concrete

inner echo
burnt ferry
astral knot
#

Speaking of concrete, big issue with that. I cant store concrete because i keep making stupid encased steel. I just KNOW thats gonna be useful later. Like reinforced iron plates

livid kernel
burnt ferry
astral knot
#

I have over 2000 encased steel and i hope i use it soon

livid kernel
#

I read yours like you split directly into a depot, my bad

burnt ferry
fluid sapphire
inner echo
#

And each depot keeps an additional stack...so don't necessarily think they all need to receive a full 240

fluid sapphire
#

Adjust angle to taste

inner echo
#

For 'peaking'

astral knot
lean ferry
#

guys I have 2 stacks and 120 upload speed for dd what do upgrade next

burnt ferry
inner echo
#

I go tit for tat back and forth upgrading them.

burnt ferry
lean ferry
#

I also have 15 mercer spheres idk whether to upgrade or to just depot stuff like cable and wire

inner echo
#

And once I start upgrading...I go a bit nuts and don't stop till done.

livid kernel
lean ferry
#

I mean I have sam fluctuators automated anyways

astral knot
#

Genuinely scared i wont have enough mercer spheres for everything

lean ferry
#

I can still depot them, but do I get 240m upload speed or better stacks

burnt ferry
lean ferry
#

nvm

#

bro im too broke for 240/m 💔

fluid sapphire
#

Dimensional depot almost entirely eliminates inventory management

lean ferry
#

ill get 3 stacks, and still have like 7/8 spheres leftover

astral knot
#

Maybe i'll look into it

burnt ferry
livid kernel
lean ferry
#

im gonna depot wire, cable, ive got rods plates and concrete uploaded, as well as alu sheets uploaded

astral knot
#

Once i deal with my goddamn coal plant

lean ferry
#

im gonna upload trigons and crystals next to make mk6

burnt ferry
#

i depot justg everything.. its also great for scouting as you can put away all those nasty inventory slots that are consumed by 5 item stacks

#

the great thing is there is no limit to the number of different mats

livid kernel
#

the "Use items from inventory first" box should be enabled by default imo

lean ferry
#

what should I depot? I need a priority list tho cuz there are some things I dont need to upload some items like turbo motors (they r used very small amounts)

burnt ferry
#

so putting max stacksize concrete there wont take space from steel beams. etc.

lean ferry
#

ive got alu sheets, concrete rods and plates, gonna get triogon and crystal when I finish automating them, gonna do cable and copper wire

burnt ferry
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like conveyor belt mats first.. the fastest one.. thhen of course, plates, rods, frames..

stiff ibex
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copper sheets also

burnt ferry
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and whenever you encounter a mat that has no dim upload yet, you build one for that... youlll have all thats needed in no time

lean ferry
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yea ive got alu sheets rn i wana get mk 6 when I finish automating them (im tier 9 rn) i might do copper sheet for pipe

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finnaly I wont have to go back for wire and cab le

burnt ferry
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ye copper sheet

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but dont worry TOO much... do everything you can recall now.. and then add when needed

lean ferry
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6 spheres left, what do I do now?

burnt ferry
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keep em for uploaders

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scout for more to upgrade

lean ferry
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im gonna remove alu sheets and replace with trigons and crystal, so 5

livid kernel
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A good way to think of it is if you need to take a bunch of stacks of things for a build you're going to do, or have to return to storage for more of a mat, you should put a depot on it

lean ferry
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then copper sheet so 4

burnt ferry
lean ferry
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should I upload pipes and motors?

burnt ferry
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is it necessary in buildings you build?

lean ferry
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because when u build refineries they are greedy asf for motors

burnt ferry
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alrighty then

lean ferry
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ill wait for now

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and see what I need to upload

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probably gonna do pipes, motors, sheets and thats it for now

burnt ferry
atomic notch
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I just stick depots on everything tbh. But i usually unlock them super early so its a bit easier.

livid kernel
burnt ferry
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you basically need everything 😂 hence the best strategy is to build them in a lazy fashion

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like only build them when you actually need that material

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this will cover everything necessary very fast, without distracting too much from playing\

willow glen
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the only things I find not worth uploading are screws and heat sinks, since buildings don’t use those (except the awesome shop).
If you’re strapped for spheres, build whatever you use the most and schedule a hunt for more

burnt ferry
willow glen
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near the end of each phase there’s usually a good amount of hunting time

livid kernel
burnt ferry
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so i would definitely not approach this by asking myself what would I not upload.. .because there is no reason to not upload something

stiff ibex
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make sure to upload alien power matrices

burnt ferry
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there is no alternate recipes for buildings.. when they need screws, they need screws

brisk stream
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how do i store the heavy oil residue

willow glen
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I didn’t explicitly list those but if you are that far in the game I doubt you need depot advice

livid kernel
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I mean in general. Like, I have a box full if I ever need them, but I don't make or use them

livid kernel
atomic notch
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Fluid buffer