satisfactory

[cedar portal]

The door doesn't know if it's open or closed without it

[fathom shuttle]

Me very soon too

[dense turtle]

can i build coal gens underwater

[fathom shuttle]

Already have 144GW from RF generators but I’m somehow running out quickly after making an automated power shards factory

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, put it on a foundation and nudge it down

[keen hawk]

how do people make water collectors so orderly

i cant make it click into the grid or anything

[fluid sapphire]

hell yeah, infinite power

[fathom shuttle]

Even after pressing control??

[keen hawk]

i tried, but i dont think its working

or am i supposed to align them with one another, instread of the world grid

[fathom shuttle]

If grid won’t work
Put a foundation slightly above water level
Put a junction toward the back of it
And snap the extractor to it

You can snap the foundation to the grid instead

[keen hawk]

a pipe junction?

[fluid sapphire]

once you have one down, you can align the rest to it

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Set the clock on the extractor you put down and copy it

Then start spamming

[dense turtle]

come on

#math-and-meta

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the problem here

[dense turtle]

the one on left and right have no water

[stray loom]

Did you overclock your water extractor like I said? 1 extractor can't fully supply 3 generators without an oc

[dreamy scroll]

Not enough water from one extractor

[fathom shuttle]

No water at all? Or just a little bit

[ashen spruce]

you should just get 8 and 3 extractors, it's perfect.

[fathom shuttle]

You probably misclicked and placed the pipe wrong

[dense turtle]

i guess i need that overclock

[fathom shuttle]

I’ve had this happen before with things improperly connecting

[fathom shuttle]

Wait you weren’t overclocking the extractor?

Duh, you need to supply enough water lol

[dense turtle]

yeah im stupiud but the extactor says 150

from time to time

[fathom shuttle]

The flow rate on the pipe?

[keen hawk]

why is the landscape south of the desert an absolute hellscape
ive been to the swamp from the other end before, the blue crater, and it felt way better to explore than from the south

[fathom shuttle]

The only reliable source of measurement is what the extractor says it’s producing

[stray loom]

Well yeah. I prefer to run mine with a 1:2 ratio rather than 3:8 because I don't mind building another extractor and downclocking them to save a little power early when it matters most

[keen hawk]

i felt like i was on malevelon creek or something

[dense turtle]

in the extractor

[fathom shuttle]

You need to look at the production of the extractor

The flow rate measures the drain from the extractor’s internal buffer

[stray loom]

Ignore that because it will be influenced by sloshing

[dense turtle]

im sorry guys

i feel so dumb rihgt now

[stray loom]

We've all been there my guy 😄

Sometimes far too much for my liking

[fluid sapphire]

some of us never leave "there"

[stray loom]

Got that beachfront property as well?

[fluid sapphire]

big time

[rugged stratus]

what's the best thing to do to transport resources from far away without vehicles?

[dense violet]

belts. That's the only thing

[dreamy scroll]

Multiplayer and make pioneers lug it

[rugged stratus]

and how Do I make it good looking?

[dense turtle]

is there a way i can find a snail easily

[rugged stratus]

goood idea to implement slaves

[dense violet]

you don't really. You could make belt highways?

[dense turtle]

theres this thing scanning snails but i cant find them with V

[rugged stratus]

That's what I did but idk if it's good looking

[dense violet]

is it because you want to over clock your water extractor?

[dense turtle]

yeah

[dense violet]

that's entirely up to you

[rugged stratus]

belt highways are good looking?

[dense violet]

as mentioned before. Feed 8 coal generators with 3 water extractors. You'll need the power

[dense violet]

I don't think so, but if you do that's fine

[dense violet]

looks are subjective. One person can think something looks good but someone else might not

[rugged stratus]

umh ok

[rugged stratus]

it's my second time playing, first time I finished the game with a lot of belts going everywhere

I even had nuclear power plant near my main base

[dense violet]

personally I don't make things look pretty until I've unlocked everything on the map

[plucky dust]

Hey guys, new here and had a question about the price. I was gonna pick up four copies during the Automation Sale. I see though that the game was a good bit cheaper ($15 USD) last year. Is it expected to go that low again or was that some kind of special offer before the game left Early Access?

[dense violet]

yes

they announced before 1.0 was released they would raise the price

[fluid sapphire]

it hasnt been that low since release and i wouldnt expect it to be

[plucky dust]

Cool, thank you so much

[dense turtle]

im so mad i thought pipes were the issue and i didnt even take into the consideration that i didnt have enough water

[dense violet]

but it's still very cheap for hte value of hours you get if you like sandbox and automation games

[dense violet]

doing the math on things is helpful

[dense turtle]

yeah

i learned my lesson

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense turtle]

now im finna be cracked at the game

[dense violet]

do the coal gen layouts like that

[rugged stratus]

is it worth it a factory for screws?

[fluid sapphire]

direct feed or dont make at all

[cerulean gorge]

what buildings should i overclock?

[shy fog]

yes?

I mean... there are reasons to overclock everything if you have product for it

and if you aren't producing enough... you can always produce more... unless you need to extract more

[fluid sapphire]

i only overclock my miners/extractors and when i run out of floor space in an already settled layout

[steady glade]

wait wat? what do you mean you overclock miners when theres no space in your factories?

[dense violet]

you can always build up?

[gilded goblet]

whats the best way to fill awesome sink with overflow items?

[fluid sapphire]

my miners i always overclock. my production machines, usually not. floor space can sometimes be limited when building upper floors

[dense violet]

a smart splitter?

[steady glade]

ooh i see

[gilded goblet]

chat when do I get a smart splitter

[cedar portal]

I overclock everything for new builds now that you can manufacture power boosters

[steady glade]

in the mam, ||caterium section||

[dense violet]

!wikisearch smart_splitter

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=smart_splitter

[dense violet]

praise the wiki, love the wiki

[drowsy rock]

is there a max to how many hard drives you can research at a time

[gilded goblet]

fair

[drowsy rock]

i just researched a drive and i dont see it

[dense violet]

1 hdd at a time, takes 10 min

[drowsy rock]

no i mean in the library

[gilded goblet]

I need to get my coal power plant up

[dense violet]

a bunch? why keep them sitting in the MAM doing nothing uselessly?

[drowsy rock]

is there a limit ot how many drives you can have in the library

[steady glade]

after a research you can have as many as you want in the lirary

[drowsy rock]

cuz im waiting for more recipes to rescan for good alts

[dense violet]

all recipes are good in their situation

[drowsy rock]

i need a specific one

[steady glade]

well... some are aight when you're really in a pinch

[drowsy rock]

cuz i need to automate batterys

[steady glade]

what reason would you have to use ||leached copper|| when ||pure copper|| is better if not to lose byproducts?

[dense violet]

because people might want to burn the waste product on it

and leached iirc outputs a huge amount more per ref

[lost wagon]

trucks are weird, I set both of them to go at different times and somehow they still deadlock on eachother

[dense violet]

pure copper sucks ass

because refineries suck ass

[dreamy scroll]

Extrapolate

[steady glade]

beeg towers as far as the eye can see

[dense violet]

gross. Copper alloy

[steady glade]

we will choke the skies in plumes of smoke so dark even spitters will die

[dreamy scroll]

Pure is dope

[steady glade]

never wanted to try alloys, feels weird to give up some ore to another line

[foggy vessel]

Is there an option to make the pause menu actually pause the game?

[dense violet]

iron is a trash resource. Convert it to copper
and you only need a drop of copper to make more iron from copper

[steady glade]

exit to main menu

[foggy vessel]

😞

[lost wagon]

remember when you could suspend game's processes on windows

[steady glade]

i left the grass fields for the west oil beach, iron is a bit more rare there

[lost wagon]

a force pause button

[steady glade]

quick question to you all: do you put your power generators on the A side or the B side of the (priority) power switches ?

and does it even matter after its switched on?

[dense owl]

im using the satisfactory calculator rn, production planner, how do i get it to reconise impure, normal, and pure nodes?

[lost wagon]

first, don't use that one, use satisfactory tools

[dense owl]

ok

[drowsy rock]

whats the best alt recipes and spot for a battery factory 💔

[lost wagon]

calculator maths makes no sense

[willow oar]

I am surprised I can make a blueprint higher than what the BP thing is... It seems to work but is it really safe to do that, will it really save and load without issue?

If I go a bit too much ob X or Y it refuses, but Z it says nothing and it seems to save well.

Can someone confirm it's okay to do that?

[white dawn]

Should be fine; folks have been using larger blueprints for a long time

If you create a really big blueprint (via mods, generally) there can be performance issues while placing the BP

And of course if you get too big (again, usually via mods) you could run into problems with having enough material in player inventory

But anything you create with the vanilla ingame designer should be fine

[shy mulch]

If you're in the realm of using mods to make bigger blueprints, you can also use mods to make bigger inventory 😛

[elder apex]

i assume you are saying that a portion of a machine sticks out of the top of the blueprint designer? If so, this is fine as long as you don't try to paste the blueprint into another blueprint, as the designer will complain then. As long as you just load, save, and place the blueprint extending outside of the designer you are fine.

[white dawn]

Heh, true. :)

Though folks download and use other folks blueprints pretty frequently, so even using a mod-created BP might not mean you're using mods yourself

[willow oar]

I'm saying I just built a wall 3 floors higher than the designer, can put foundations there 12 meter higher and it's still blue to be highter

[shy mulch]

True!

[uncut trail]

guys i have very specific question

[shy mulch]

42

[tawdry plank]

very specific answer

[uncut trail]

when you transfer energy via normal poles do they take any power or no?

[tawdry plank]

no

[uncut trail]

ok so no matter how many poles i connect together energy wont be consumed

[elder apex]

zooping walls/pillars/etc can ignore the clipping restrictions of the designer sometimes. You can even zoop pillars halfway into the floor of the designer and it will accept it. As long as you just load/save/edit/place the blueprint you are fine. You just can't paste the blueprint into another blueprint because then it will register as extending outside the designer border

[willow oar]

Oh you're right I just tried putting an assembler and it's red

[foggy vessel]

How does building vertically work? I'm trying to build one constructor on top of another. It says the surface is to unveven and the clearance is encroaching

[willow oar]

I'm trying to do my first BP of a vertical factory with enclosed walls,

[dense owl]

im using the satisfactoy tools rn, how do i get it to reconise impure, normal, and pure nodes?

[willow oar]

You need foundations on top

You may need to buy walls or pillars on the awesome shop

[fluid sapphire]

you dont, you just assess what you have nearby, and work off that

[dense owl]

well im trying to make a turbo fuel factory for power and i want to make sure its running at all times and no random drops

[fluid sapphire]

the production chain it gives you is 100% efficient and works at all times, as long as you build it correctly

its up to you to figure out how to provide the raw resources for the chain

[foggy vessel]

Are blueprints unlocked later in the game or have I just not found the button for making blueprints?

[quiet gust]

Build up about 4 4m foundations then build up from there

[quiet gust]

What tier are you

[fluid sapphire]

tier 4 (contains a milestone that) unlocks designer mk1

[foggy vessel]

Tier 2

[quiet gust]

Tier 6 for mk 2 and 9 for mk 3

[willow oar]

I'm is there a simple way to make a base building on the BP designer ? I was thinking 1 small floor câbles, 1 floor machines, 1 small floor câbles, 1 floor machines, but machines vary a lot on hight, and the bigger ones won't fit on a MK2 designer if I do it that way :/

[balmy locust]

If a constructor is not operating because it does not have the resources that it needs, does it not use power? If it only has say half the resources and thus can operate it half efficiency, does it use less power?

[quiet gust]

You've got a bit to go. I believe if you know how to import BP files you can use the but just wait till tier 4

[foggy vessel]

I built walls, that worked

[tawdry plank]

some people have done entire starter factories in a single bp but usually you make the machines in a bp like 4 smelters or 2 assemblers and just use them like puzzle pieces as needed

[quiet gust]

Same thing essentially

[fluid sapphire]

idle consumption is 0.1MW on all machines, it uses max consumption every cycle it can, idles otherwise

[tawdry plank]

you gotta underclock them to use less power but while idle it barely uses power

[willow oar]

You mean 1 floor as BP ?

[tawdry plank]

yeah but also one entire building in the mk3 bp maker

[willow oar]

Here I just wanted an empty vertical factory as a base BP to use multiples times

[balmy locust]

Thank you very much. So it uses a tiny bit if it doesn't have any resources and uses its full power if it has any resources even if it's like 5% efficiency because it is so starved of resources?

[limpid orchid]

Finally Phase 2 is getting Automated, i just had to rebuild my Whole Steel, Iron constructions and find new Copper and Iron.

[foggy vessel]

Why would I need to get them from the awesome shop? they are just 2 concrete and two iron plates?

[tawdry plank]

i can send you a vid with an easy modular base (walls included) if you want

it has a bp with a room corner and you place 4 to have an 8x8 building area

[willow oar]

I want to do the BP myself but a little vid to help is fine thanks

[gloomy oriole]

So here I am, working on a blueprint and everything's super dark even without walls. So I put in ceiling lights to be a 'final touch kinda thing. But they're so janky to work with somehow.

[hasty cradle]

You can lock the building in place by pressing a keybind (h by default) and nudge the building on top of the other one. Locking a building in place removes the "uneven" thing when placing them on top of eachother

No foundation needed

[green fiber]

limited range and area.
the lights are funny

[willow oar]

From what I remember I had nothing vertical when I started playing, had to buy some on the shop

[past hedge]

using billboards as lights is the only effective way

but its performance intensive and requires global illumination

[tawdry plank]

alrighty sent it to ye

[gloomy oriole]

It would be nice if they could at least work in the blueprint builder as if they had power. I've had to build the bluepring off to the side to test them.

[foggy vessel]

It must have changed at some point, walls are with foundations now on tier 1

[willow oar]

I stated less than a month ago

[uncut trail]

can miner be placed on top of a platform which is on top of a node

[willow oar]

Oh no you're right the base wall was not bought

[tawdry plank]

yeah vertical nudging got added in 1.1

in june

[willow oar]

I stated after 1.1 launched, I'm close to 100h but still don't understand lots of things

[stray patio]

should i make a new world after 1.1 released now?

[undone yarrow]

1.1 vs 1.0? No.

.8 or earlier? yes.

[stray patio]

ive been playing on 1.0 before

[willow oar]

Thanks for the BP tips everyone, gonna try something

[keen hawk]

Wet concrete is an absolute lifesaver

[fluid sapphire]

i place concrete foundations on top of nodes quite often, you have to experiment with the height a bit tho

[keen hawk]

But now i realise why this desert starting area was rated so high in difficulty

Trying to get to faraway resources is like trying to get a molar out of a nuke hog

[stray patio]

wanna see my computer automation? ( you will cry)

[keen hawk]

Its genuinely so miserable for me to find the oil i need

[tawdry plank]

goodluck pioneer 🫡

[obsidian musk]

CHICKEN

[stray patio]

#screenshots message

[open pollen]

I personally made a new world cause it had been months since I played and I had never completed it in that first run and wasn’t near the end yet either

[limpid orchid]

No, i dont want to be scared. Im just done and im already scared that i will just Rebuild everything again after i am in phase 3

[stray patio]

@limpid orchid

[open pollen]

You don’t need to rebuild anything really, you can just build new things elsewhere and leave the old stuff to do its thing

[tawdry plank]

oh god

[sturdy pivot]

is there a keybind/addon that opens directly to blueprints?

[tawdry plank]

you can add them to your hotbar

you got 10 hotbars for a reason

[gloomy oriole]

OK, got lights working sufficiently on the first floor. Now to do the other two.

[tawdry plank]

(alt+scrollwheel to change hotbars)

[open pollen]

Oh god?

[tawdry plank]

the screenshot

spaghet

[dreamy scroll]

I really liked the restrained use of foundations

[open pollen]

I have little spaghetti logi floors inbetween my production floors so I can still go mad with pasta in secret 🙂

That is the true method

[dreamy scroll]

A little spaghetti, as a treat

[tawdry plank]

i like logic floors until something breaks and i cant instantly tell where the bottlenecks are

on my HMF factory i spent so long trying to find where it bottlenecked only to find out there was a small bit of mk1 pipe before the splitter to the first constructors

it wasn't even the whole belt just the final section

[fluid sapphire]

gotta put up signs

[limpid orchid]

Does everyone use that Movement "bug" with the accelteration when Sliding and Jumping?

[tawdry plank]

signs are useless when that final section was accidentally mk1

like just a meter max

[gloomy oriole]

I like spaghetti floors until I can't physically reach the problem spot.

[tawdry plank]

it's not a bug it's just a slidejump

[fluid sapphire]

im not sure i understand how that can even happen, why not use mk2 pipes everywhere and be done with it

[tawdry plank]

it's intended mechanic with the running boots

[grizzled lotus]

So I just recently moved out of my starting area into a new area (from rocky desert to dune desert) for phase 4 and put the game down for a while. I'm curious if anyone has tried implementing each phase in a different area or location?

[tawdry plank]

i had mk3 pipes everywhere but my hotbar had mk1

[limpid orchid]

I dont have running boots.

[tawdry plank]

since usually i hold E and select the mk

[tawdry plank]

with the running boots its even better

big jumps

[grizzled lotus]

I didn't notice this earlier, since I just kept sliding and jump and having fun. but I noticed if you time the slide and jump right (maybe hold slide just before you touch the ground) the jump is even bigger

kind of like accumulating momentum

[fluid sapphire]

thats why i rarely use the wheel, its very prone to making me make errors

[tawdry plank]

eh i just like having the option

but now it's all mk5 belts since i automated alclad sheets

and 3 depots

[hasty cradle]

I need more power again

Time to make my rocket fuel plant even bigger ig

[shy mulch]

It's always time to go bigger

[hasty cradle]

This name is better

[cerulean gorge]

i'm looking on the wiki and do i need to unlock alternate recipes to use them

[hasty cradle]

To use what?

[cerulean gorge]

i'm looking at modulatr/bolted frames that make modular frames

nvm, the wiki mentions they'r eboth unlocked at T2

[reef basin]

"unlocked" in context of alternate recipes means "added to the pool from which a random recipe is picked when you scan a hard drive"

[cerulean gorge]

oh, so i gotta look for hard drives? got it

[plucky oar]

Hey all! Any step by step guide for setup a server for friends being ablte to play even when my host pc offline?

[tawdry plank]

hope you got the scannable hard drives researched so you can find them easier

with the object scanner

[quiet gust]

(or use scim)

[shy fog]

head on over to #dedicated-servers and I bet they have it there

[gritty sleet]

I wish the conveyor throughput counter had a way to show other graphs like over longer intervals. Like the average over 10 minutes or something. For slower-moving belts.

[charred snow]

is the medical inhaler worth getting

[cerulean gorge]

whatre some good alternate formulas are worth getting first

[tawdry plank]

all inhalers heal to full hp so just craft whichever one you can afford

they are the same item with 5 different recipes

[quiet gust]

yes its a full heal

[tawdry plank]

cast screws are convenient, other than that it depends, a lot of recipes are useful depending on what ya wanna do and what's around you

[charred snow]

is it only one heal

[quiet gust]

per inhaler

[outer notch]

does anybody know a good place/area to search for the jethog?

[charred snow]

damn ok

i got bored of my old save because it got messy and i started a new one

how yall progress so fast

[quiet gust]

idk if there is one but abyss cliffs and eastern dune forest have a lot

[quiet gust]

i spent 275ish tickets to get through phase 4 in 3 hours, also experience

[outer notch]

I'll try look there

[tawdry plank]

idk what you mean by fast lul

160+ hrs in and still in phase 4 lol

i was in phase 2 till like 50 hrs in

[charred snow]

what is the highest teir area i found this swamp and there are a lot of scary monsters here and radioactive materials

[quiet gust]

swamp titan forrest, red jungle. Basically everything in the middle of the map except for the west coast beaches

[tawdry plank]

yeah they are all basically in the middle band of the map

like horizontally next to eachother

[quiet gust]

basically everywhere with bauxite

[charred snow]

i built northwest of the northern forest i think

[late tartan]

Im attempting to print the nuclear fuel rod but im unsure how to modify the model to accommodate EL wire to make it light up.

[cerulean gorge]

i just unlocked the rebar gun 🐟

[rugged marsh]

hey sorry if this is a bad place to ask but can someone help me with the satisfactory tools website? its bugging hella for me

[hasty cradle]

I would use satisfactory modeler

Free program on steam only 1 GB

[lean ferry]

guys can satisfactory tools calculator calculate overclock and slooping>

[rugged marsh]

okay thanks 🙏

tools calculator was telling me constantly to make 2x more than i actually needed for 0 reason

[rugged marsh]

sorry 1 question rq, how do i make connections with it?

[hasty cradle]

Right click and drag i think

[rugged marsh]

thank you

[red sun]

all the time
it was originally a bug but because it's used so much they've kind of adopted it as an intended mechanic

kinda like quasiconnectivity in minecraft

[tall plover]

so i just dismantled my dimensional uploaders but had a full inventory and didnt get the mercier spheres back. Can i get them back or are they just gone?

[rugged marsh]

they should be in a crate on the ground?

[tall plover]

nope

i thought crates only dropped if its alot of items that didnt fit in your inventory

[hasty cradle]

It will go into an existing dismantle crate

But it can be rlly far

[tall plover]

ah fair

yea i got 3 across the map, always wondered why theres so much stuff in em

thanks

[modest nest]

So I just remembered that theres building modes for conveyors and pipes and such now

Ive spent 44h lining all of them up manuallly in my builds for no reason

[quiet gust]

I feel your pain

[modest nest]

my life is about to become so much easier

[tall plover]

44 hours jesus

[modest nest]

why are there so many modes on the pipelines though, whats the difference between default and default 2d

[tall plover]

sometimes it just wants to connect up

[modest nest]

oh

[tall plover]

when building multiple next to each other and above/below each other

[modest nest]

it forces it into inputs on the same level?

ahhhh thats cool

[tall plover]

I found that out after struggling with lining 16 pipes next to each other

[modest nest]

My aluminium factory is way too nice for not having used any special belt or pipe modes

ahhhhh

[green fiber]

if you want straight lines, holding ctrl supposedly also makes pipes and belts move "straight" out from the last connection point

[modest nest]

oh cool

can I bind custom keys of my choice to different specific building modes?

because that would be sick

[tall plover]

ive finally finished my concrete production

80 Refineries producing 6400 Concrete per minute

should suffice for now

[dreamy scroll]

Soviet architect

[tall plover]

just gotta hope it doesnt burn through my energy again

[modest nest]

again?

[tall plover]

im still on the same energy output i used to finish phase 5 with

22 GW

[modest nest]

damn Im on like 9gw I think

somehow opened my to-do list while in a hypertube and now I can't close it and my screen is blurred

oh tabbing out and back in closed it

[unkempt vapor]

im continuing my old playthrough and im sitting here baffled at my stupidity, I was throwing away 780 bauxite per minute into an awesome sink while i was also in need of bauxite to make more aluminum casings for radio control units

[gritty sleet]

Is there any way to turn off that new photosensitivitity warning every time I start the game? It's a waste of time for me.

[left totem]

good achievement, i finished p5 with like 150GW

[modest nest]

just sent my aluminium production in #screenshots

[tall plover]

i dont even have nuclear power setup

i just tapped a few oil sources

finished phase 5 with 332 tickets, 100 hours and 22 GW energy

[left totem]

nice

[reef wasp]

Edited and still incorrect.

[tall plover]

why incorrect?

[dreamy scroll]

MW

[tall plover]

22000 MW = 22 GW?

[left totem]

yes that is correct

[modest nest]

Ive got 14gw currently

Only using 6gw though

[dreamy scroll]

Quite right

[last tartan]

Hey guys, is anyone else experiencing troubles with dismantle crates?

I deleted tons of storage chests, and all the stuff in them isn’t in my inventory nor on the ground in a crate

[quiet gust]

do you have merge dismantle crates turned on

[white dawn]

I believe there's new-ish behavior where dismantling will attempt to consolidate material in a single nearby crate. Could be that there's one that's just becoming extremely stuffed with things

[last tartan]

Not a clue, let me see

[gritty sleet]

That setting is on by default iirc

[last tartan]

It is on.. there’s a dismantle crate I have like across the map, I bet it’s all In there 😭

[white dawn]

I'd always assumed it would try to consolidate into one nearby, but I still haven't actually played the game in 1.1 so I'm not sure

[gritty sleet]

That's what I assumed too

You can upload your save to Satisfactory Calculator's map to see where the dismantle crates are

[last tartan]

i didn't ever know that was a feature, i was super confused but i got it figured out. i was scared it was a bug and that was a whole lot of stuff to desintigrate to nothing

[last tartan]

i got the marker on my compass

#screenshots message yikes...

[naive palm]

straight to the trash. YAGNI

[quiet gust]

why aare stackable pipelines not under the pipe swatch rahghghghg

[last tartan]

thats too many valuables

[teal rain]

Hellow i just got the game! I'm hella excited to play❤️

[naive palm]

Welcome to the crew, fellow pioneer!

[atomic siren]

How can I accomplish this?
Basically I have one input (plastic+rubber), that I'm going to sort into their own storage with smart splitters. I want it so that only after the storage fills up, the backed-up plastic+rubber goes into a awesome sink

on tier 5-6

[naive palm]

smart splitter before input.

output -> smart splitter -> storage
               v
               v
          awesome sink

[stray loom]

Are both those items on the same belt?

[atomic siren]

yeah so I need to filter them (to their seperate storages) and then when the storage is full I need them to go into a sink

[atomic siren]

doesn't the smart splitter just filter item type though? Havent build any yet

[naive palm]

Indeed. You're saying you're sushi belting both?

[cedar portal]

You should never put more than one item on a belt unless you LIKE the challenge of sushi-belting and enjoy it. Otherwise it's just going to bite you at some point.

[stray loom]

So you have 1 output set as a specific item, one output set as any undefined, and one output set as overflow. It will filter the specific item and let the other one through until the filtered item backs up where it will then go down the overflow path

The any undefined will feed into the next smart splitter

Combine all the overflows with a merger and send that to sink

[naive palm]

.

                  rubber
                    ^ 
                    ^
mixed input -> smart splitter -> plastic
                    v
                    v
          (overflow) awesome sink

[atomic siren]

that makes sense, I probably didn't go about this in a very good way but I just need this for a basic fuel power setup so I don't think it'll be an issue

[atomic siren]

thanks for the visualization

[naive palm]

Engineering is often about solving the problem you have in front of you. I'm glad I could help!

At the same time, I agree with Ion. I heavily avoid sushi belting anything. Isolated throughput problems are easier to deal with than sorting logistics. For your use case though, you should be fine since all overflow is getting sunk.

[cedar portal]

Unless one of the plastic/rubber lines backs up then it will jam the other 😄

Wait, thats not right, it should just sink it. I was thinking other items were on it

[naive palm]

Yeah dog should be fine in this situation.

[cedar portal]

This is why I don't use them. All the jamming. Not the belts but my brain 😄

[shy fog]

if you can't sink fast enough then use bigger belts

or two sinks

[gritty sleet]

I feel like the fluid loading train station should make a big splash sound when it dumps rather than the sound of a bunch of junk falling like the cargo containers do

[shy fog]

I feel it should explode when you crash regardless of the contents

[lime ermine]

It'll be about an hour before you're back with questions about how to make your factory 100% efficient 🤣

Lol

[shy fog]

speaking of stupidity I'm about to re-unlock trains on my (I have no idea how many times) restart.

[tall plover]

3 Energy Shards make the building use 2,5x more energy or more?

[last tartan]

Is there a way to switch map types? Or is it only topographical?

[gritty sleet]

I think there's a bug with the low road barriers where their lower stripe is just always white. High barriers are fine.

[last tartan]

It cranks production by 2.5x, so say your machine ate 40 mw before now it’s eating 100 (40x2.5=100)

[tall plover]

I just checked, its more

[stray loom]

More. You get 250% production but it's 336% energy consumption

[tall plover]

it cranks it up by 50% each time, so you need 337,5% more energy

[last tartan]

My fault, I didn’t know it eats more power

[tall plover]

ye just saw it

thanks guys

[gritty sleet]

Only topological. If you want the textured map, Satisfactory Calculator has one.

[stray loom]

Power consumption is a polynomial curve based on clock speed. If you have space, patience, and time you can save on power by building more machines and downclocking them. 2 machines at 50% makes the same amount of items as 1 machine at 100% but only consumes 80% of the power to do so

[last tartan]

Oh wow, that’s really cool! Power efficiency at its finest

[vivid dock]

hi

[stray loom]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Advanced_clock_speed

[quiet gust]

i thought it was exponential?

or is it a weird polynomial

[last tartan]

you seem to like “Satisfactory Calculator” a lot.. are you a walking billboard? How much are they paying you?

[gritty sleet]

I use its map a lot lol

I use Satisfactory Tools for production planning, though, lest you think I'm a shill.

[last tartan]

If I destroy my space elevator, will it delete the materials in it

I really don’t want to make all that smart plating again..

[prime jasper]

Any advice before I start plastic production? I unlocked the oil recently and I am a bit confused about how should I planned this factory partially due to having to work around byproducts for the first time.

The fluids are also harder to manage than solids inputs but I guess it is fine since managing oil looks no different than managing water for the coal plants.

[ivory condor]

Reminds me I struggled to even make it past the games main menu without the game crashing, thankfully I figured out what was causing it

[teal rain]

I look forward to this ahahah! I love the environment so far!

[lime ermine]

Wait until you have to make nuclear pasta

They're where the real pain is

[stray loom]

Dang copper powder is always a nightmare

[lime ermine]

Oh yes

I need 256 refineries making it with pure ingots for my nuclear power plant

[humble osprey]

Hello!!

[lime ermine]

Hi!

[humble osprey]

I've seen this face a lot. Who is that person?

[gritty sleet]

Jace, former community manager

[humble osprey]

I see

[gritty sleet]

Snoot in a bunch of the other ones is also a former community manager.

[humble osprey]

I see

[stray loom]

[humble osprey]

Uh anyways, can I talk about my factory here?

I wanted to discuss about gas mechanics

[lime ermine]

Shoot

[quiet gust]

imagine water, but no head lift

[humble osprey]

If I understand correctly, gases should flow from a pipe of high pressure to a pipe of low pressure. Right?

[lime ermine]

Gases will also always spread out across the while pipe they're in, so you need to have the pipe full before powering the machine it's feeding into is powered for maximum efficiency

[subtle swan]

Hi guys, quick question. steamsale is about to end and i'm thinking of getting this game. I love automation factory games (I have close to 700 hours of dyson sphere program)
I never knew this game existed since it popped up in my steam sale. Should i get it?

[humble osprey]

But there seems to be an issue where, in my rocket fuel factory, the rocket fuel seems to accumulate near the blender outputs (where it is produced) and the fuel burners and the end of the manifold barely receive anything

[keen hawk]

How much pasta do you people even automate anyways

[quiet gust]

Yes

[humble osprey]

Yup

[quiet gust]

i did 22.16 per minute in my first world

[humble osprey]

Five per minute

[keen hawk]

I was very content with my 2.5/m even up to phase 5, how many are you psychos making

[humble osprey]

Wha-

[gritty sleet]

I have over 1000 hours if that's any indication

[quiet gust]

this world i need 36 per minute at least

[keen hawk]

What for
Sinking?

[ivory condor]

Hot take, avoid this game

[lost wagon]

there is no way to limit how much of an item is loaded in the train is there?

[humble osprey]

How much do you want to limit?

[quiet gust]

wait no i misread i need 36 machines, so 18 per minute

13 for ficsonium

[humble osprey]

Ah

[gritty sleet]

Because it'll eat all your time?

[quiet gust]

2 for elevator

rest for sing c3ells for either bwd pr portals

[drowsy rock]

why did they make it so if you fall in water in the build menu open it doesnt let you close it in water

[stray loom]

I'm only planning to make 10/min on my new save but that is slooped cause I can't be bothered to make even more copper powder to make more lmao

[drowsy rock]

now im bugged inside water because i cant jump out

[ivory condor]

Yes🤣

[humble osprey]

Sci fi games putting "-ium" At the end of a word to make a fictional metal moment

[drowsy rock]

and if i reload i lose stuff

[keen hawk]

Spam right click while jumping

[drowsy rock]

thanks

[keen hawk]

And tbat should eventually close the build meny

[subtle swan]

oke sounds good! judging from the graphics it look very polished but heavy on PC, Is it well optimized? Esp with huge end game factories. I'm running a 4070Ti.

[lost wagon]

like 10 stacks or so, so one train will bring 10 stacks to one place and a second train will pick up 10 more and bring to a different place

[keen hawk]

Youll be fine….

[humble osprey]

Very well optimized. I'm running 160 refinieries at the same time and it runs like butter

I'm surprised how they even managed to make it run so well

[keen hawk]

You need to make a balancer in that case, but its pretty simple

[ivory condor]

Its well optimized for sure

[humble osprey]

As a 3d artist myself, my same pc would blow up if I tried to render a scene with that many vertecies

[left mauve]

is it possible to temporarily revert to 0.9?

[quiet gust]

chat is this cursed i have both diluted fuel and diluted packaged fuel in the same build

[ivory condor]

The game uses instancing as much as possible for best performance

[stray loom]

Why lmao

[left mauve]

i want to show someone my old save but it uses beacons so it will break on 1.1

[keen hawk]

Take a mk1 belt into a splitter, connect all 3 outputs and then link another splitter to one of them, with the rest feeding back into either the original input or onwards in the system, with a mk1 belt split 3 times and then 2 times again that gives you a belt of 10 and another of 50 if that makes sense

[quiet gust]

one for fmf, one for fuel for drones for the nitrogen for fmf

[left mauve]

im currently making a factory that uses turbo blend and turbofuel

[keen hawk]

If you didnt start the project before you had blenders and ended it after you did, then yes

[quiet gust]

im going to be as well, but also i need to use every alt in the game

[keen hawk]

I have really old grandfathered in architecture that stays because i hate demolishing stuff

[quiet gust]

(no i had both)

[dense owl]

what is the websight that people use to see their entire save and all of their buildings?

[quiet gust]

satisfactory calculator

[ivory condor]

Im still wondering if and how they would be able to get rain to work with instancing but that might be why rain isnt ever coming back, downside of all of the optimization

[stray loom]

Oh that's reasonable I guess. I thought it was going to be something truly cursed

[dense owl]

ok

[left mauve]

ah my reason is that the regular recipe acts as a sink for the rocket fuel byproduct

[quiet gust]

cause i dont have a drone hub yet and i dont wanna belt nitrogen from the rocky desert to the west coast

[left mauve]

and then i package it for my drones

[humble osprey]

I'm not sure what the benefit of diluted packaged fuel even is

[quiet gust]

im going to be using compacted steel for all my excess, so a casuall 200 foundries lmao

[stray loom]

Choo choo mfer

[keen hawk]

I have a train that carts liquid raw crude oil to the nitrogen

:’)

[ivory condor]

Who knows maybe they'll bring rain back but the feature would require toggling it on, because some optimization would need to be turned off hmmm

[quiet gust]

(4x the fuel or regular fuel)

[dense owl]

i cant find the right thing in the website

[left mauve]

unlocked one space elevator earlier

[charred snow]

if i got a normal coal node and overclocked it 200% on my mk1 miner would it make it pure

[left mauve]

maybe uses less power? idk

[keen hawk]

Uses less power even with packagers and water pumps

[humble osprey]

Also, I don't particularly understand when and how I should be using fluid buffers.

I tend to mindlessly throw them before a manifold. Is that okay?

[quiet gust]

no but it would have the smae output as a pure node

[drowsy rock]

chat what do i do with the excess water if i cant make it into bottled water :((

[charred snow]

thats what i meant

[keen hawk]

Wet concrete

[charred snow]

so that works?

[humble osprey]

Throw it in coal generators

[quiet gust]

dont. Use them at the end of manifolds to combat sloshback and thats about it

[keen hawk]

Or anything wet and then sink it

[left mauve]

pure metal or wet concrete

[drowsy rock]

i dont need coal gens

[humble osprey]

At the end of manifolds...? Can you explain what that will do

[quiet gust]

aluminum?

[humble osprey]

You need to get rid of the water no?

[drowsy rock]

no coal things

coal nodes around*

[humble osprey]

Oh okay, u don't have access to coal

[quiet gust]

no if you loop it properly you dont need any sinking

[humble osprey]

Okay what is around?

[drowsy rock]

literally nothing 💔

[ivory condor]

Nothing dont do it

[dreamy scroll]

Better get drinking then

[drowsy rock]

i might be cooked

[humble osprey]

Cmon. There's gotta be iron or limestone

[left mauve]

where are you and what are you making?

[drowsy rock]

the closest thing is a limestone node 703 m away 😭

[humble osprey]

If nothing works, you can always try drinking the excess water

[drowsy rock]

good idea

[humble osprey]

Closest coal node?

[drowsy rock]

hold on

[jaunty pasture]

qq, can the lights on train be turned off whhile driving them?

[humble osprey]

Can you elaborate

[humble osprey]

I think it's B

[jaunty pasture]

wont work

[humble osprey]

Then probably not

[jaunty pasture]

oof

[left mauve]

literally every ore has a simple water recipe right?

[ivory condor]

It provides no benefit, no reason to do it

[humble osprey]

Yes

[left mauve]

except sam and uranium ig

[humble osprey]

But they said it deals with sloshing

[ivory condor]

Think of pipes as only a bigger pipe

[humble osprey]

Those are impractical ye

[ivory condor]

It won't, that's a pipe mechanic, you can't prevent that

[drowsy rock]

yeah bro im not belting coal over

[ivory condor]

Want to deal with it, design your pipes with the mechanics in mind, only real solution really

[drowsy rock]

what

[stray loom]

Is there oil nearby? Could make petroleum coke and burn that in coal generators

[drowsy rock]

no

[humble osprey]

U can always make an aesthetic road and shipment it over

Or is it called cargo?

[drowsy rock]

i aint tryna make a road around and over 4 mountains dude 💔

[bright helm]

Lol I thought there is an exam of Satisfactory's knowledge

[left mauve]

i mean youre gonna have to bring something in or get the water out

[stray loom]

Maybe you should move the thing somewhere else first and then you'd have an easier time dealing with the byproduct instead

[humble osprey]

What are u even making

[last tartan]

is there any vehicles apart from the factory cart, tractor and explorer vehicle?

[ivory condor]

Just read the pipe manual, it explains it all best

[left mauve]

if you already have drones set up thats the laziest option apart from just making a 700m meter belt which isnt even that much?

[stray loom]

Probably aluminum given the water byproduct

[drowsy rock]

yes

i have idea

nevermind

[last tartan]

i coulda sworn i saw another vehicle in the trailer for satisfactory

[left mauve]

how are you making alu without coke or coal

[stray loom]

Explorer, tractor, truck, factory cart, drone, train

[humble osprey]

Truck

[gritty sleet]

Cyberwagon lol

[last tartan]

truck : O

hehahehaeae WhAT TIER

[stray loom]

We don't talk about that 😄

[drowsy rock]

WAIT I DO I HAVE AN IDEA

[ivory condor]

Or driving it onto a jump pad

[stray loom]

Truck is logistics mk4 I think? Like tier 5

[last tartan]

was the cybertrunk an april fools item\

[ivory condor]

Cyberwagon mk4

[last tartan]

i noticed the cubical wheels

[gritty sleet]

Truck is imo not hugely useful. By the time you get it, train is better for larger loads. Tractor is still good for small loads over distances that are too far for belts but too short for trains or drones.

[stray loom]

No it's actually in the game

[gritty sleet]

And it only turns right iirc

[last tartan]

how may i retrieve this object

[gritty sleet]

Sink a coupon

[last tartan]

i shove a coupon in the sink?

[white dawn]

I don't think so, just a joke they decided to put in the game. :)

[last tartan]

guess id better go do that real quick

[white dawn]

(Though maybe it did debut on a patch which arrived on April 1; not actually sure of the exact timing)

[stray loom]

I thought that was just a bug or was that intentional?

[white dawn]

100% intentional

[stray loom]

I know the pioneer was under it when driving clipping through the ground and stuff lmao

[gritty sleet]

People thought it was a bug, but it wasn't

They intentionally made it completely awful

[sharp geode]

it's not an ambiturner

[white dawn]

It was intentionally broken in other ways, originally, but then the UE5 update in Update 8 caused them to have to rewrite the vehicle code, which accidentally "fixed" the Cyberwagon

After awhile they intentionally re-broke it with the turning-right thing (and maybe a few other tweaks, too)

Ah, yeah, wasn't until 1.0 that they got around to getting it back up to spec. :P

[ivory condor]

Ada will be pleased by the coupon

[last tartan]

i even paused spotify to see what shed say

i havent done it yet

[humble osprey]

I'm about go reach phase 5 guys. I'm finally gonna finish the game.

[last tartan]

20 TICKETS

I DONT HAVE 20 TICKETS

😭😭😭

[gritty sleet]

You will eventually, just make all your factories dump excess into sinks and let them keep running full-tilt at all times.

[last tartan]

funny part is

[gritty sleet]

I've got 641 or something tickets just sitting in the sink atm, didn't even bother printing them.

[last tartan]

i dont have any factories right now 😓

i tore down my power grid

ive been in the process of moving to a much larger location

[ivory condor]

Time to refund the game i guess

[stray loom]

No factories?!?! In a factory building game?!?!

[dense owl]

@peak wasp why so sad?

[ivory condor]

Its over

[last tartan]

no cybertrunk, no play game

game make man sad without cybertrunk

[peak wasp]

Lets game it out season 2 type factory make me hurt inside

[gritty sleet]

It's literally unusable lol

[dense owl]

dont worry it all works, most of it just goes to the sink anyway

[noble topaz]

the tornado belt with nuclear waste everywhere
that one?

[peak wasp]

Indeed

[gritty spire]

if i pump 19 meters up then flatten the line out, can i keep repeating without having to use pumps

[peak wasp]

@dense owl did you like my starter base, its not done yet but you see the picture

[dense owl]

well i did not make a tornado, its just a big mess of conveors

[left mauve]

what was the idea?

[dense owl]

10/10

[noble topaz]

it reminds me more of the conveyor belt weave

[dense owl]

the thing is i wasnt going for a lets game it out estetic

• the weave looked good

mine doesnt

[peak wasp]

Was this your first play through?

@dense owl

[dense owl]

my 2nd

[peak wasp]

Then your good

[dense owl]

i did not finish my first one

that was before the 1.0 update

[peak wasp]

I started playing my first one in update 3

So it looked just like yours

The one you saw was my current save

[dense owl]

yeah

i think my first save was worse tho, my whole steel factory was from one coal node and i forgot how many iron nodes

it was where letsgameitout started his playthrough

[peak wasp]

Is it just me or is the map tiny

[dense owl]

idk

[noble topaz]

thats me, but from one coal node, and 1 iron node

[peak wasp]

I literally walked from extreme desert to green hills bc i built different factories around the map

This was before i had trains or cars

[white dawn]

An alternative would've been to leave your original factory doing its stuff, and then build new things at the new factory location

If you want to dismantle stuff you're obviously free to, but there's hardly ever much reason to dismantle factories in the game

[noble topaz]

#screenshots message

[peak wasp]

I think i use 3 270 coal and 3 270 iron for my set up

[dense owl]

thats where mine was too

[gritty sleet]

Yeah it's really hard to have one big factory building everything. Works in Factorio, less-so in Satisfactory.

[white dawn]

An advantage of leaving your original stuff intact is that if it turns out you need more material, then your old factory is still pumping stuff out to resupply you

[dense owl]

before 1.0

[peak wasp]

And it only makes beams cuz i got iron pipew elsewhere

[noble topaz]

at this point, im prob not gonna do any clean up or making it efficient

[peak wasp]

And half of my steel beam production goes to encased industrial beams

[left mauve]

i think i just lost my entire inventory?

is that a dedicated server bug?

[peak wasp]

Indeed benaan

[left mauve]

well rip mercer spheres ig

[peak wasp]

Happened to me too

[left mauve]

i didnt want to cheat on this save

[peak wasp]

Dear god not the mercer spheres

Technically your not, you already had them

[left mauve]

dont remember how many though

very annoying

i can check on the calculator ig

[noble topaz]

speaking of mercer spheres
i need more

[peak wasp]

You could trash them all and reset map spheres

[left mauve]

how bout no lol

im gonna check how many i have found on satisfactory calculator and subtract the amount i used

[peak wasp]

Real

[left mauve]

does it happen often?

[peak wasp]

It happened twice in the span of 3 days for me

[left mauve]

oof

[peak wasp]

Id say when you log out hide your stuff in a storage

Like under the map or something

[left mauve]

sounds like a great idea that i will immediately forget

[left mauve]

i have a self hosted server with my cousin i dont need to hide it lol

[shy fog]

hide thing under map? been there... done that... chucked trucks off a cliff... wasn't a good idea

[lime wadi]

im making a megafactory for plastic and rubber to supply to most if not all of my factories for the rest of the playthrough, should i make more rubber or plastic

[left mauve]

plastic i think

[vast salmon]

hey guys, if i had 12 coal generators and 5 water pumps, how much would i need to underclock the 5th pump?

[quiet gust]

both in such large amounts that you will never need to make more

[left mauve]

depends on the recipes youre gonna be using elsewhere

[gilded anchor]

Why not just use the 8:3 ratio?

[lime wadi]

if i did the math right it should produce 1495/min of both

[vast salmon]

i have one, i needed more power

[gilded anchor]

Make another. Then you have 4 coal gens left and 2 pumps. Take how much each gen uses add it up then found out how much water you need

[lime wadi]

im not sure what im gonna use, so im trying to find a safespot so to speak

[gilded anchor]

Once you figure out how much water you can just subtract to find out how much you need to underclock

[vast salmon]

alr, 1 sec

[left mauve]

i have a gigafactory in satisfactory modeler that uses almost everything on the map, that one uses basically 50/50 rubber and plastic

[lime wadi]

do you by chance know how much of each it uses? also given that info i could probably just stick with a 50/50 then and be fine

[left mauve]

around 4k of each

excluding the recycled rubber/plastic loop

(this is insane and should probably not be attempted)

[lime wadi]

oh wow

i was not expecting that much lol

[wicked nacelle]

that's consistent with my just general experience... it starts out really plastic heavy then the rubber demand spikes

[lime wadi]

i dont know how much oil thats using, im just using the north coast beach supply and pumping it all into an oil rig design im making, are you using every oil on the map?

[wicked nacelle]

My current game does but a lot of it just gets dumped into diamonds

100% coal and oil use

[lime wadi]

diamonds are a thing now? i havent played since update 8

[wicked nacelle]

yes, they are the last stage and they slurp resources down. one particle accelerator can eat 1500 (1800?) coal/m

[left mauve]

yeah 2k of it is just for crystal oscillators

[lime wadi]

i might have to make a few other smaller oil plants across the map then if thats the case for resource demand

[wicked nacelle]

that demand is well past completing the story so not something you have to plan for unless you are making a personal sink-point goal for after the story is done

[lime wadi]

yes, however i must produce as much as possible

[wicked nacelle]

The thing about the story is it's a "count" not a "rate" goal, so you can beat the story with any production level > 0

[lime wadi]

i like to build way more than i need to, simply because why not

the factory can always grow more

[rich parrot]

*must

[lime wadi]

exactly

benaan is the right side output, i havent seen that modeler before

[left mauve]

yeah

[lean ferry]

im on tier 6, and I wana plan for future cuz y not:are there any alt recipes I need for turbo motors, cooling system, radio control unit

im about to unlock tier 7

all I need to do is do the space ele rn

[lime wadi]

wow thats an insane amount of resource demand

[dawn sun]

don't use it unless you're ready to get clowned upon by this server

[left mauve]

yeah 100% of copper, quartz, uranium, sam, and bauxite iirc

[lean ferry]

cast screws or normal

[left mauve]

i lost the satisfactorytools cookie

[lime wadi]

cast screws

[dawn sun]

I use it too, but people here strongly prefer the calculator because it's faster and picks the best methods automatically rather than manual planning

[lean ferry]

yyeeeeessssssss

[dawn sun]

Steel screws

[lean ferry]

.

[wicked nacelle]

it's the same resource efficiency so why not use less space?

[lean ferry]

no im asking the ficsit screw enjoyer (personally I use cast screws and love them)

[dawn sun]

Yeah between cast and normal obviously cast, but I like steel screws a lot of the time

[rich parrot]

Screw you, good sir.

[wicked nacelle]

though for some reason often the iron wire supplied wire alternative to screws is actually more iron efficient which makes ZERO sense to me

things that let you change resource type should be less efficient in my brain

[dawn sun]

There are fairly few recipes that use more than 250 screws per minute so I can just ship over an arbitrary amount of steel (that I have enough of because steel is important and easy to make) and slap 1 constructor in front of the machine that requires the screws.

But if I have to choose between normal and cast, obviously cast screw wins it's a straight upgrade

[quiet gust]

(aparently steel rod + reg screw is more reasource effiecient)

[ivory condor]

Or you can try in desperation to use mk6 belts to move the tremendous amount of screws

[wicked nacelle]

1:4 vs 5:20 -- same same, no? am I eating crackers?

[quiet gust]

no

wait i misread as steel screw

[bright magnet]

unlocked the Project Assembly #12 and ... WHAT??!! what is this build complication cranked to a million??

[wicked nacelle]

that's not really resource comparable...

[wicked nacelle]

12?

[quiet gust]

no i misread cast screw as steel screw

[quiet gust]

also i said steel rod + reg screw, not iron rod + reg screw

TIL you can send packages fluids back and forth using only one drone port

[rich parrot]

Steel screws gives you 13 screws per steel ingot. Steel rods route gives you 16 screws per steel ingot, so slightly more.

[quiet gust]

but it uses like 3.5x the machines

[dawn sun]

In terms of steel to screw conversion steel rod + reg screw does produce a little bit more (about 1.23 times more), but it also requires A LOT more constructors

[quiet gust]

I prefer aluminum beam + steel screws + aluminum rods to get solid aluminum rotors 🙂

[pure condor]

should I delete my factory its lowk really inefficient

[wicked nacelle]

OIC. I ain't got coal to waste on screws so it's all powdered donuts to me

[wicked nacelle]

no, just start another one and bank what your current one makes

[rich parrot]

No. Just build a new one elsewhere.

[quiet gust]

nah, it still makes stuff, unless your straped for power in which case, attach a power switch

[pure condor]

where should I build at

[ivory carbon]

guys at what tier do i gain flight at?

[quiet gust]

5 for jetpack, 7 for hove4rpack

[quiet gust]

4 to launch youself out a cannon 🙃

[rich parrot]

Somewhere with a nice view. Use trains to bring ores over.

[wicked nacelle]

but you gotta land, too 🙂 but I guess parachute is available

[dawn sun]

I drafted an example in the modeler, and I'm looking at 2 constructors for 390 screws per minute via the steel screw route (and you never need more per minute per machine than that according to the wiki), and without a lot of overclocking about 14 constructors for 480 screws via the steel rod route

[pure condor]

I dont have trains im still at tier 4 with everything comeplete

[ivory carbon]

damn im pretty new to this game and im getting stuck at the tier 2 quest for the space thingy

im like tier 3 in the table or 4

[dawn sun]

That's smart actually 👀 nice

[ivory condor]

See void out of the map, there

[quiet gust]

its not a horrible conversion, 1.2 bauxite per rotor

[pure condor]

thats a great idea thanks

[rich parrot]

Tractors are fine too. Do not be too afraid of distances. Just pick a nice looking spot and haul things over.

[pure condor]

is there like a good spot where I could be thats near pure ore?

[ivory condor]

Its actually quite viable you would be suprised

[rich parrot]

The desert has lots of pure nodes and wide open spaces.

[pure condor]

Also ive just been running conveyer belts really far

[ivory condor]

You can even build under the map and live your fantasy of having a underground base

Then again im not sure how many are like myself and have underground bases

[rich parrot]

That is efficient, but a bit ugly IMO

[tawdry plank]

what was that

[teal rain]

Ooop sorry wrong server ahaha

[tawdry plank]

lol

[pure condor]

my coal thing looks horrifying

[teal rain]

Mb

[quiet gust]

omy gah its john ospuze

[lost wagon]

game is showing me paths I already deleted wtf

[vale shell]

I'm getting some odd laggy movement that I haven't noticed before. It seems to be either when (de)constructing something (either in the ghost, or while it's animating), or when I have the customizer out. I can press a direction key, let go, and I'll keep moving that direction for a varied amount of time. Tried turning Vsync off per a reddit thread I found but it's still happening. Is there a way to stop this?

[pure condor]

is it looked down upon if I use a blueprint instead of building it myself

[tawdry plank]

why would it be

[rich parrot]

Almost everyone uses BPs

[tawdry plank]

play the way ya want, use bps either online or yours. dont overthink it

[quiet gust]

no, everyone uses blueprint, or they are crazy

[pure condor]

I dont know ive just been in communities that hate when you dont do things on your own

[trim vine]

How do you not have coal to waste?

[ivory condor]

Customizer has always had performance issues and it was never fixed

[trim vine]

this aint that

[wicked nacelle]

diamonds slurp coal just like copper powder slurps copper

[tawdry plank]

this game isnt competitive and there isnt a right way to play

[quiet gust]

diamonds for his 80bwd

[tawdry plank]

diamonds

[vale shell]

I'm getting it during construction/destruction too

[floral oar]

Good morning!
Is there a way to make train segments more obvious?
It basically went from red to very slightly less red to very slightly less red to yellowish/orange making it hard to see individual segments.

[quiet gust]

chat what hex code do i use for nitric acid pipes

[ivory condor]

Yeah that's known to

And it gets worse with larger blueprints to

[vale shell]

So the work around is to just anticipate flinging yourself off stuff occassionally? There's no mod or setting that helps?

[rich parrot]

It is best if you make your own BPs and spam those. Then you know the factory was made entirely by you.

[ivory condor]

Sure its called disabling the building animations I believe

[tawdry plank]

#fee544 or b00b69

[vale shell]

I'll see if that helps. Thanks!

[ivory condor]

In my mod i have to disable building animations by default, because it causes to much game lag

[quiet gust]

no

[tawdry plank]

damn.

so no piss colour or funy name colour 😔

[ivory condor]

The blueprinting i do is to much for the game to handle with building animations turned on truth be told, been that way forever

[red sun]

#d9d9a2 :)

[ivory condor]

Thankfully I can just have it all turned off, that's how im working around it

[trim vine]

@wicked nacelle @quiet gust @tawdry plank

86 alts for that so unless you doing baseline, the coal cost aint terrible

[quiet gust]

i want actuall colors

[vale shell]

I'm trying to find the setting now

[wicked nacelle]

depends how many diamonds you need. -- I'm burning through about 2500 dark crystals/minute. maybe 3000

[tawdry plank]

well you dont colour code pipes based on the material in them?

that's how i do them

or default to a shade of blue

[quiet gust]

i mean i want one that fits wwhats in the pipe

[tawdry plank]

no in-between

[trim vine]

thats crazy work, send screenshots

[tawdry plank]

well the yellow i chose is pretty close to nitric acid

i chose a pretty light yellow for that reason

[ivory condor]

https://ficsit.app/mod/DisableBuildingAnimations

[quiet gust]

not the color of the nitric acid in the pipes

[wicked nacelle]

screenshot is just 16 ballistic warp drive manufacturers.... it's not that exciting 🙂

[trim vine]

-stares in Frodo-

Fine then, keep your secrets

[wicked nacelle]

hang on

[tawdry plank]

then choose #eae7c6

it's the colour of the nitric acid icon

[quiet gust]

too late the other guy had abetter color

[tawdry plank]

alrighty

[rustic otter]

hey idk if its a bug but i put a thing in #screenshots if any of yall know the answer and which one is correct pls let me know

[tawdry plank]

i just inspect element the colour of the icon 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1396621280182272060/image.png?ex=687ec06d&is=687d6eed&hm=cf47aa32884139b676094cd613352f364f9972220176fa1d7f5b5311d58e0191&

[hasty lion]

Dear god. Please let us sink Power shards 🙏

[ivory condor]

Its weird you can't sink them for sure

[wicked nacelle]

early game it's a finite resource ... I don't think you can sink anything with a small number finite resource

[white dawn]

To be fair, prior to T9, it's probably good that there's guardrails. You don't want folks accidentally deleting 'em until then

[ivory condor]

True but its infinite later

[hasty lion]

not being able to sink them could f*** my whole storage system
but i also want them to be stored... cuz i wanna store every item in the game...

[white dawn]

Can at least convert 'em to Ionized Fuel if you want overflow-to-sink

[white dawn]

Ionized Fuel's the way. I agree it's a bit silly, but c'est la vie

[wicked nacelle]

just stop making them when your storage is full - let it back up and be done

[white dawn]

Or just set yourself up some ISC storage a la nuclear waste. :)

[hasty lion]

i guess so

[white dawn]

You know how quickly you're making them, so you know how many ISCs will give you however many hundreds of hours of playtime you want. :)

Well, as with a lot of the T9 components, there's loops and such with Dark Matter which you might not want to have stall

In the end, if you want the overflow-to-sink for 'em, it's Ionized Fuel or nothin'

I basically just set up my Ionized Fuel factory to mostly run at half speed until Shards backed up, at which point it'd kick into full gear

(though my 1.0 playthrough never actually got to the point of shards overflowing)

[hasty lion]

thats hilarious but i also thought about a "final-storage" thingy for powershards lol
pre-1.0 we had to suffer from not being able to sink nuclear waste and we had to store it into infinity... well today we have to think about the same problem but with a in principle good item

[shadow cypress]

hi, idk what happened, i was playing with my friend and now i can't take any damage, any way to fix this?
it ruins the fun

[bright magnet]

if ur not late game ill not spoiler it ... but it gets VERY hard holy

[tawdry plank]

man i cant wait for mk6 belts to use the aluminum factory at full speed

[hasty lion]

my friend wants to make an ionized fuel factory, but hes on vacation rn, so...

[tawdry plank]

i think he asks for the name of the piece instead of the nr

cause i also do not know any of the numbers

[tall plover]

Ive already filled an industrial container with these... please add something 😭

[white dawn]

I don't want to frighten you, but once you hit a certain load threshhold, btw, mk6 manifolds at 1200/min might not actually hit 1200/min. You might want to make sure you only actually need closer to 1150/min or so.

[ivory condor]

For personal use you don't need that much fuel production

[white dawn]

I'm pretty sure the bottleneck is CPU-related; at a certain point the factory tick just doesn't process everything fast enough (but again, where that point is likely varies with system. If you've got a beefy system you may not notice for awhile)

[wicked nacelle]

I was commenting on "12" as there's only 5 project assembly phases... so you're REALLLLLY late game... like from the future late game 🙂 https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Space_Elevator

[bright magnet]

ah but it would spoil it so ill put under spoiler ...its called ||AI Expansion Server||

[tawdry plank]

welp it'll have to keep up with the 12k aluminum a minute fr

[tawdry plank]

he doesnt mean phase 12 but the 12th item

[hasty lion]

this is also my first save where i am finishing the game actually

bought the game during early access but never got to the end

[bright magnet]

i hope the last one is a bit easier and not a 20 step production ... at least with the #12 and #13 requires a little compared to the 1st 2 that needs 1000

[tall plover]

can relate, i also got very addicted on my first save

[wicked nacelle]

the belt bug got fixed

[tall plover]

Im on 140 hours in 11 days

[shadow cypress]

hi can someone help me, i've got a glitch where i cannot take any damage, and its taking away the fun of survival...

[quiet gust]

what caused it

[tawdry plank]

has just exiting and reentering not fixed it? never heard of such bug

[white dawn]

I know there was a belt bug earlier on with 1.0 that got fixed; I was talking about a different one. (Unless you are talking about the same thing I'm talking about)

The one I'm talking about seems to be something with the whole factory tick, basically, not belts specifically

[wicked nacelle]

I have no problems with 100% belt efficiency at 1200/m

[white dawn]

As I say, it's performance-related; how your specific CPU is handling your specific factory could very much have a difference

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think it ever worked from the introduction of mk6 belts until the patch that fixed it.

[shadow cypress]

no it hasent, i thought it would've but it started during my last session

[white dawn]

I admit I haven't re-tested in 1.1; could be that they did something to address it in there

[tawdry plank]

try putting the bug on the QA site to see if anyone has a solution or if someone from QA can look into it

[hasty lion]

well, okay, this is my 3rd or 4th save but now i "finally" got the mindset to create something beautiful, not just spaghetti.
i also have school and private things to do, but currently, I am half a year in this save with abt 200h and a total playtime of 432,4h (73h in the past 2 weeks 💀)

[shadow cypress]

alright, thanks

[wicked nacelle]

maybe, but I play everywhere from normal to pushing the game speed past what it can handle (10x) and the only issue I have is things that try to determine averages mess up.

[tawdry plank]

again never heard of this so prob wont be of much help

[teal rain]

I'm more like Jane Ospuze ahahahaha

[tawdry plank]

meanwhile i got like 160 hrs in a month 💀

in well almost 2 actually

1 and a half let's say

[white dawn]

Sure, I definitely didn't mean to imply that it'll happen for everyone, on every playthrough. But unless something was fixed recently in 1.1, the thing I was running into was still there.

[quiet gust]

Instead of scotty and june, Scutty and Jane>=?

[tall plover]

steam is telling me 190 Hrs total in the past 2 weeks but that cant be accurate considering im also going to work and couldnt play for 2 days

[white dawn]

Reproduceable by setting up a 1200/min manifold in a "fresh" AGS save, and having it be rock solid basically forever, and then copying the exact same thing into my 1.0 save and watching it start to struggle, etc

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know of any belt changes since the 1.0 patch that fixed the bug that everyone had

[hasty lion]

bro thats almost 8 full days 💀

[teal rain]

Me. Im Jane. Scotty and June can go ahahaha

[white dawn]

Right, me neither. Which is why I'm pretty sure it's still there. From what I've heard, as I say, it's technicaly more of an engine-tick bug as opposed to a belt bug, in the end

[tall plover]

yea and im not online for 8 out of 12 days when i also gotta work and sleep

[white dawn]

My CPU just reaches a point where the engine can't fully process the manifold in a single tick, or something, and so it starts to starve

[tall plover]

its probably closer to 145 hours

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that I do kind of have a potato, though. This system was midrange about 8 years ago when I last upgraded. :P

[tawdry plank]

yeah this game thrives with newer cpus esp with higher vcache like the x3D cpus so if xaxxon has that then they would never encounter such an issue

[hasty lion]

ok, maybe I exaggerated

my storage has 4 input conveyor belts from 12 train stations 💀

[wicked nacelle]

I do, but I also run the game at either 2x or 5x most of the time and it struggles with that

[tawdry plank]

you are speed

[wicked nacelle]

I is speedxor

[tawdry plank]

become one with the speed

[hasty lion]

not a single item is entering my new storage system... i hate my life

[wicked nacelle]

I always prioritize my personal storage/dd -- because I don't care if other stuff slows down, the build must continue

the other stuff will catch up when I stop using that resource

[hasty lion]

hot take (only minecrafters will maybe relate) but since day one of 1.0 i am calling the dimensional depot "ender chest" lol

[tawdry plank]

except ender chest doesnt get accessed from inventory. it's more like applied energistics storage

with the terminal in hand

purple theme too

[humble osprey]

Ngl they should let us dump liquid byproducts into open bodies of water

[hasty lion]

ye ik but the system with access from everywhere is similar

[white dawn]

Oof, factories starving because I'm taking things out of storage would drive me up the wall

I prefer to just ensure that nothing ever starves. :)

[humble osprey]

If I can get water from the Lake, I should be able to have an open pipe dumping water back into it as well

[tawdry plank]

they dont cause they want you to deal with the issue, esp with aluminum

they've refused letting us dump it for a while

[humble osprey]

And other products. Bonus points cuz it fits with the pollution aesthetic

[hasty lion]

on my next save i will focus on not even having a storage, just everything gets directly and only uploaded to the dd

[white dawn]

Yeah, they want to teach you about recycling (or at least byproduct processing)

[quiet gust]

how cursed is this im building my first advanced aluminum factory with mk 6 belts

[wicked nacelle]

It's a gameplay choice to make it more challenging mid-late game but not frustrate new players by not having a solid sink. There is a mod for a liquid sink if you don't want to learn how to recycle it

[tawdry plank]

remember that ficsit does not waste

[wicked nacelle]

You're just using the lake as storage

[white dawn]

As a counterpoint, there is no pollution in the game. Beyond some extraordinarily-localized smokestacks, running your factories infinitely will not impact the planet in any way whatsoever. :)

[humble osprey]

I don't think it would entirely deal with byproducts, cuz you still need to be near a large body of water to do that

[gilded goblet]

where do I find my map folder? i cant find it

[tawdry plank]

%localappdata%\

[humble osprey]

Yeah, pollution is only an aesthetic in the game

[cerulean gorge]

how do trucks worth, do they just drag things from A to B?

[tawdry plank]

then factory game save game

[white dawn]

There's mods if you do want a fluid sink, of course. Not being able to sink fluids is a very intentional design decision, though. :)

[gilded goblet]

nvm i'm blind

[tawdry plank]

yes you set up the path

and then it follows the path

[humble osprey]

I see

These devs take their game design very seriously

[tawdry plank]

yeah sinks will never get added by them unmodded

[white dawn]

Heh, some would disagree with the kinds of changes they made in Phase 5. :D

[tawdry plank]

time to make ficsonium everyone

[cerulean gorge]

how well do they handle the terrain

[white dawn]

But yeah, basically everything in the game is very thoroughly thought-through by the devs, whether one agrees with their ultimate decisions or not

[hasty lion]

okay ima go to bed now, 8 hour session is enough for today ;)

[white dawn]

They do pretty well, though you'll have the best luck if you use the game's "natural" roads. Which does admittedly somewhat limit your route selection, but they're quite solid

[hasty lion]

goodnight fellas

[gilded goblet]

night echt

[cerulean gorge]

natural roads?

[humble osprey]

Wdym

[tawdry plank]

eh they teleport if they fall off or if they get stuck

[white dawn]

(In fact, anecdotally they work best on natural roads, as opposed to foundations -- whenever I hear of weird vehicle problems, it's always on foundations)

[tawdry plank]

but sometimes they get stuck stuck

[gilded goblet]

is scim interactive map not set for 1.1?

updated*

[cerulean gorge]

it is?

[tawdry plank]

nothing map wise got changed in 1.1