satisfactory

[undone yarrow]

Foundations at least, just use the texture on it as they are usually based around the center and how the snapping jumps

[feral jay]

☝️ plus I think foundations are 5m across, and each snap is 1m, so 2 snaps from the edge, is the cetnre

No sorry, 4m across

Which is 5 snap points

[sullen gull]

Foundations are 8m across.

[feral jay]

I stand corrected; double all my previous measurements

[lofty phoenix]

I'm thinking of leaving the game

Stuck on phase 4

[feral jay]

Well bully for you!

[undone yarrow]

Nothing wrong with that if you arent having fun.

While not really the right way to play, I mostly just made temporary space elevator part factories and hand fed em from the depot for clearing that

[feral jay]

Is it just all a bit overwhelming?

[lofty phoenix]

I'm having lots of fun,but building parts is making me crazy

[sullen gull]

A pipeline support should be able to snap to the foundation center. Place the support before placing the pipes if you need.

[dense violet]

not working to a static end goal can be really complicated if yo uwant everythign to work perfectly

the trick to that is to not care about smooth production and just work your way to the end to do your own perfect projects planned from the end goal

[feral jay]

It can help to just play something else for a while, a lot of people have saves that they've been building for years

I myself still have a save from update 5, so like, 2019 or so

Still work on that one a bit from time to time

[lofty phoenix]

I build a 20 x 20 just to build screws,nearly 100 industrial storage for 3 layers, 100 construtor,25 smelter, 1 mk2 miner 600pm

[feral jay]

Zoinks, my rubber/plastic/fuel plant just filled up and overflowed, and doubled my tickets per minute

Still paltry at <40,000 p/min but it's getting up there

[tranquil hemlock]

Any advice on building a rail line that can get over and around terrain but doesn't just look like it's floating in mid-air?

[feral jay]

Add supports

It really takes away that "floaty" look

[lofty phoenix]

Lot of supports beam

[feral jay]

Even just large pillars down to the ground make a big visual dfifference

[haughty flax]

Thank you

[tranquil hemlock]

Fair enough. Damn terrain is the biggest enemy in this game though XD

[feral jay]

It's supposed to be. It's brilliantly done IMO

[tranquil hemlock]

It is. But it's evil when trying to use the world grid sometimes XD

[lofty phoenix]

Last night,I left my game running on it own for the whole night,this morning my train collided together

8 trains runs perfectly until last night

Everything stops

[leaden ether]

(Sorry was eating diner) Well I'm trying to recycle it which is the hard part. You have to so carefully get all the inputs and outputs of the alumina and waste water perfectly matched with the clock settings, then make sure the input coke and the scrap output are 100% available/used so the cycle never goes below 100% on one side or the other or it locks up. I think maybe I finally got it running right, but if even one of the machines is only running at 99% it will fail eventually.

[lofty phoenix]

For me ,i don't use coke at all,the coke is going to the awesome sinks

[leaden ether]

AEryn above pointed out a way to remove one variable by not mixing in the needed fresh water with the waste water, But I found that if the loop is not running at 100% perfectly all the time, it will still lock up. (I.e. coke gets throttled for some reason or the scrap output backs up and stalls the refiner making it etc.

[sullen gull]

How much fresh water are you pumping in ooc?

[leaden ether]

TBH, if I do another aluminum factory I'm going to put in a system for overflowing waste water and sinking it right off the bat. THis system is way to delicate and I simply do not trust that the program is really keeping track of ever molecule of fluids going through it.

[leaden ether]

I have 180/min fresh water going in, creating 126 waste water from the first scrapper. Then feeding into the other two solution refineries/scrappers, they both produce 147 water totaling 420 waste water. which is /exactly/ the amount of water needed by the second two solution refineries. Those refineries then produce /scatly/ the amount of solution needed by their paird scrap refineries. They are even all whole numbers, no fractions.

But you can watch the water sometimes start to accumulate in the output of the scrappers, then take a couple of cycles to go away. It's not 100% stable. some how.

[sullen gull]

I have seen the same, and while it would be nice to watch multiple status' at the same time, my current theory is that if you could, you would see some similar happen on the other machines, but they go in cycles. And, in my setup/testing I have been messing with for about a month now, none of the machines in the setup ever "hold" any accumulation and end up always getting rid of the minor "buildup". Because one could never really "balance" the cycle of the machines, I believe it is a "natural" effect and nothing to be worried about.

[pliant parrot]

what is packaged sulfuric acid used for (aside from alternate transport)

[leaden ether]

Yeah a lot of that is the fact that the refineries are processing things in batches like all machines and they go in and out of sync.

[feral jay]

Man, I hate to admit it, but using SCIM to upgrade belts beats the pants off doing it by hand

[pliant parrot]

packaged fluids are usually useful for a recipe or fuel for smth

thinking it might be a potential good alternate to jetpack fuel instead of turbo fuel

[leaden ether]

FOr fun I hooked up a fluid buffer to the waste water line so it would suck all ecxcess water from the scrappers ASAP and I could watch in one place if water was accumulating or not, rather than having to look at all three in the system. It's interesting watching it fil and drain and fil and drain and if something goes wrong you can watch it just fill and fill over a coup[le of hours.

[peak wasp]

why when i try to confirm the placement of a conveyer lift with lmb, it rotates the top and then i can confirm but if i unrotate i have to rotate it again

[sullen gull]

From what I have noticed, so long as you're not feeding more than ("Total needed for solution production" - "Waste produced") In a recycling setup, one shouldn't have to worry about the water side of things. Regardless of trying to use the "popular" VIP junction or even trying to mess with valves.

[feral jay]

Valves generally suck, and VIP junctions work. I have spoken.

[leaden ether]

Yeah I'm trying (and at this point may have succeeded) in getting the loop refineries to run at 100% constantly and as long as they do the fluid buffer stays virtually empty. Last thing I fixed was putting a sink on the end of the manifolds that are sucking up the scrap, and even though only one bucked goes through every few seconds to the sink, apparently that was enough to introduce small hiccoughs in the scrapper that eventyally lead to water build up.

[sullen gull]

They're just difficult due to the math involved and apparently not being able to work at the specific value given ... is the apparent concensus from what I have seen. Though, they "can" work. Just more trouble that it's worth it seems.

[leaden ether]

I could also have overclocked some of the ingot smelters as well but that starts a whold chain of having to overclock everything else down the line :D

[feral jay]

Valves generally suck because unless you're a fluid mechanics engineer or work with industrial pipelines, your only experience with valves is with full pipes (i.e. garden hoses, sink supply, etc). It's totally different when the pipe that you place a valce on isn't full.

And this game uses the "complex" kind of valve

(persoanlly, my only experience is with air supply hoses, doing hazmat cleaning work on supplied air)

At least, that's the only time I ever had to truly understand the mechanics involved, because my life depended on it

And hey, credit to that employer, that was a very tough test I had to write before I got my ticket to do that (but I digress)

"If the air hose has 30psi pressure, the valve is set to 75%, and given your physical activity, you require 10L/min of air, how long can you survive?"

Learned a lot about fluid mechanics with that job lol

[sullen gull]

I have been stress testing the two blue prints I made (5x5 - 500 baux in, 500 ingot out, 6x6 600/600) on a couple dedicated servers VMs so that they can run constantly. So far, in roughly 800 hours, neither setup has "stalled" to where I have to remove any material by hand. And though, for me 98% and up is fine, but they have both have regained 100% after restarting ingot output. Additionally, every output buffer, with the exception of the waste water from scrap refineries, is always "full". Lastly, the water pipe setup for the refineries also always stays "full" as well.

[ivory elm]

i need help i started playing an hour ago but the game say is been 12h is it normal?

[sullen gull]

A pipe not being full will greatly affect the flow to the next pipe regardless if the valve is there or not though.

[humble plank]

@ivory elm I think its saying that the total playtime for that save is 12 hours?

[ivory elm]

no my total is 70h

[feral jay]

Yeah I just wrote a whole essay here on how I learned that IRL lol

[humble plank]

@ivory elm I knjow the game gives you a warning if its been 2 hours.. I don't think I ever played 12 hours straight though... Whas it a warning like that?

[ivory elm]

yea

[sullen gull]

Personally I work with fluids daily. Valves, pressure, controlling flow, etc.

[humble plank]

@ivory elm and it said 12 hours?

[ivory elm]

yea 12or 14

[sullen gull]

Lol, worst I got was a 72 hour warning 🤣

[feral jay]

Ah so you know mare than I do, my experience is 20 years old now, it's just that my life depended on understanding air supply mechanics, so I've never forgotten it

[humble plank]

@ivory elm only thing I can think of is your clock on your PC might have chanaged? Usually computers are pretty good about keeping time...

[feral jay]

(well I coulda quit, but I'm not a quitter)

[sullen gull]

I mean, all learned "on the fly" though lol. So, I in no means consider myself an expert 😏

Over the last 10 years that is.

@ivory elm Though, this game has a way of making 10 hours feel like 1 when sucked in 😏

[feral jay]

Point is, you should also understand that the fluid mechanics in this game are... realistic, and not realistic, at the same time, and why they can be frustrating to casual gamers

[ivory elm]

true this is a fun game

[feral jay]

Fun is not allowed, as per your FICSIT® Employee Manual™, section 34, subsection 15, paragraph J.

[sullen gull]

Personally, while yes, there isn't great explanation of the mechanics and many players seem to treat them like belts when it comes to manifolds, I feel that the majority of confusion and frustration from the MANY different theories and "fixes" that are spread about.

[humble plank]

When it comes to aluminum and recyclign the water, it is important to make sure that your "new" water comes in with a U-loop, and your "old" (recycled) water stays below the high point of that U-loop (this is much easier to see than to explain)

basically your system will prioritize water that is lower... you want to prioritze the recycled water over the water you are bringing in..

[feral jay]

weLp I'm outta beer and I need some exercise, sounds like a good excuse for a walk to the corner store

[sullen gull]

Basically what's been called a VIP junction. Still though, even with that setup, if one trys to say pump in 500 initially because oc'd sloppy says it needs 500, it will clog almost immediately.

[humble plank]

it took me until my 3rd save to figure out how to do that right... I have a blueprint that uses 2 refineries (and one alt recipie) that works perfect for generating aluminum scrap...

[sullen gull]

Yeah, going to ride the bicycle amongst the "booms" to grabs smokes 🤣

[humble plank]

I can show it to you if you would like to see it ..

[sullen gull]

This is the 5x5 I mentioned before. #math-and-meta message

The 6x6 is setup similar. Water is the blue pipe.

The 5x5 setup takes 150m3/min and the 6x6 180.

As some point, when bored, I want to try that setup with feeding it straight from the bottom and not looping over.

[timid rune]

I am doing 675 baux in 675 ingot out on a 3 refinery x 2 setup

[humble plank]

I see that blueprint, I like that,... Mine is simpler, its just 2 refineries using sloppy aluminum and then the standard aluminum scrap recipies (just 2 refineries with a recycle loop)

another way to do priority with fluids is to use a pipeline junction set up vertically.. Bottom junction takes priority over middle junction takes priority over top junction ...

[leaden ether]

In the case of this aluminum cycle, Aeyrn showed me a way to not even have to mix the two so no priority junction needed this time, but I've run into other cases involving HoR that definitely needed that.

[humble plank]

@leaden ether Well you coudl always take the excess water and do something else with it...

[cloud crown]

So if you have:
----+ extra water
I
----+---- aluminium water
Bottom takes priority?

[sullen gull]

OK, I feel it's time... Going to go have fun and install Arch on the S76 laptop... Pop OS! is simple and works, but to bloated. Anyhow, Don't tell ficsit on me!. o/

[humble plank]

some folks just make wet concrete and sink it and call it a day

[feral jay]

oof good luck with the gaming

[leaden ether]

If this didn't work out I was going to pipe it to an soggy concrete (or whatever it's called) factory which I do stil need to build :D

[feral jay]

Wet Concrete™

[humble plank]

ya

... Ive always wondered why its not possible just to return excess water back to the lake/ocean ..

[dense violet]

if built 'right' and you're lucky. Best to just not mix it

[humble plank]

... that would make sense

[dense violet]

because it's part of the logistics puzzle in a logistics puzzle game?

[sullen gull]

NO gaming on that latop. Strictly coding other netsec related items. Which, really doesn't matter what I run it as most is done out of a VM anyhow.

[feral jay]

Basically because that would be too game breaking, if we could just dump liquid byproduct into the sea

[cloud crown]

Ficsit does not waste

[humble plank]

... It would be more entertaining if we could just dump petrolium products into the water ...

[sullen gull]

But, now that you say that, I am going to grab a spare NVMe and install it on this beast just to see 🙂

[feral jay]

Yeah, FICSIT does not waste, but it does pollute...

[humble plank]

Want to get rid of the HOR, no problem, just dump it in the lake and turn it purple...

[carmine musk]

anyone tryna send me the save file of their world

[feral jay]

I'm alway s happy to share save files and my games are vanilla friendly

[carmine musk]

really? that would mean alot to me, i love looking at peoples creation and try to learn the game

[sullen gull]

There ya go, enjoy all the "half-done-ness"
🤣

[humble plank]

@hugot ever join someone's dedicated server ?

[feral jay]

Hrm how can I send a save file over Discord

[sullen gull]

Just message them and drag it to the DM

[feral jay]

wait wut that simple?

[atomic notch]

Drag n drop

Ye man

[feral jay]

lol

[sullen gull]

From %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames<save id>

[cloud crown]

Write "not a trojan" as the name of the world

[carmine musk]

ive never joined that, im looking forward to it tho

[sullen gull]

If they were smart, they would drag the file to VirusTotal 😏

[cloud crown]

Like my history the teacher said if you enter dark caves use an umbrella

[untold moat]

I remember my friends would try to do .zip explosives on me...

[feral jay]

You're dating yourself...

(and that still works...)

[untold moat]

they last tried a week ago...

[sullen gull]

Ahhh, the days of Netbus and being a nice friend... Opening the cup holder for them and all 😏

[feral jay]

You have awesome friends

[untold moat]

where else are you supposed to put the cookies that others accept?

[feral jay]

In my belly

[sullen gull]

Not 100% sure, but pretty sure this was pre-cookie era. Unless you're talking about an actual cookie, then no, supposed to use the "cup holder" for the glass of milk 😏

Oop, and I was wrong, cookies started around '95, so yeah, I guess they were around then 😏

[feral jay]

Man they really need to fix the doggo pathfinding

I thought I lost one, but no, four of them show up on SCIM, but I can only see three

[sonic igloo]

Just realized that even if my smelter can output 120 resources, the conveyor mk1 will still hold 60 and will back up the miner

[frail sleet]

If that's the case, something about your build is wrong

anything that shuts down the waste water refineries should shut down fresh refineries as much or more, at the same time or earlier. So water cannot build up, it can only (temporarily) deplete

[leaden ether]

Not worried about the fresh water at all at this point it's the waste water to alumina solution to scrap loop. It only works long term if the numbers are 100% constant all the time. ANY time delay, like a single hiccough to the coke or a slight delay causing the scrap buffer to fill up wil through the balance off and cause accumulation of waste water. Once accumulated there is no way to use it up because the best you can hope for is 100% recycling with all machines running at 100%. If one is at 100 and another at 98 for some reason, the imbalance always adds more waste water to the syetem that can't be gotten rid of from within the system.

[boreal musk]

i separate my waste and fresh and i never have your problem

[leaden ether]

My fresh and waste are 100% separated.

[frail sleet]

Scrap buffer should always be empty unless you made a belt speed error or you don't have a sink downstream, both of those are mistakes that are not tolerated but they are easy fixes.

[leaden ether]

But the loop requires 100% consustenacy all the time to consume both all the waste water and all the alimuna scrap. If either end is not running at 100% one or the other accumulates long term and will eventually shut it down

[frail sleet]

Not with the safest and easiest designs

[leaden ether]

Using your exact design and ratios.

[frail sleet]

Waste water: no
Scrap: yes, you can't have it sit at 500/500 on the output. You need to spend or sink the output.

If your scrap is at 500/500 - or ever above like 20/500 or so - then you have made a mistake that won't be tolerated

[boreal musk]

are you expecting the machine to keep running when you just consuming 90% of your scrap production?

ofc it will get backed up and getting no waste water

[untold moat]

heh, thats a mood. i just realized that I have to hand craft over 500 RIPs because I forgot to factor in belt costs...

[leaden ether]

At this point I think I do have everything as stable as I can. I am now just wating to see the long term results. I really hate this kind of system though and would never design anything like it in RL :D

[frail sleet]

It sounds like you were just stalling the wastewater refineries by not taking their output, another failure mode, yeah there are plenty of those but there is also a pretty wide range of ways to do things "correctly" and have a perfectly reliable system

[boreal musk]

you always want to stress testing everything before getting into another step

sinking all the scrap just to make sure all the waste water is recycled back is a good habit

and then you can start next step which is making the ingots

sink again until all smelter/foundries are at 100%

and then next step again

just to ensure theres no silly mistakes when youre done with said factory

[leaden ether]

Heh times 8 in this case. Because Yeah I did find a few strangly missing belts here and pipe junctions that did not split the attached pipe there etc...

Looking at my next factory and seeing numbers like 288 refineries, and 247 constructors kinda give me that old sinking feeling.

Oh and 19000 M3/min water

[dense violet]

if you have them split, even if your scrap builds up once you clear the scrap it should start back up on its own

[leaden ether]

As an aside, I updated the DLSS libraries for Satisfactory today and they work great if anyone wants to give that a try.

[covert talon]

are tehre places with more creatures i can farm for dna

likea ton

[leaden turret]

caves have spooders

[covert talon]

thanks

[leaden turret]

(some caves do not)

[quiet gust]

I hate my game. My game crashes every single time I open the map

[leaden turret]

verify game files? 🤷‍♂️

[quiet gust]

Already tried

[leaden turret]

does it crash if you open the map on a blank session?

[quiet gust]

Wym like a new save file?

[leaden turret]

yar

[quiet gust]

I don't think works fine in my friends world

It's likely my world being too big

[leaden turret]

there's only one map

[quiet gust]

I've also heard one of the Nvidia graphic card update or whatever doesn't work

[leaden turret]

so worlds are the same size

[quiet gust]

I mean I have too many factories

[leaden turret]

factories aren't rendered on the map

so is moot

[quiet gust]

?

It might be like the 200 drones and 125 trains

[leaden turret]

ah

things shown on map

[quiet gust]

I'm not too upset I'm on my final factory of the world

[leaden turret]

suggestion:

1. upload save file to scim
2. rename session to avoid accidentally borking main save
3. delete some stuff
4. download the save file & try to load the map
5. repeat steps 4 & 5 until it doens't crash

[quiet gust]

Wym delete some stuff

[leaden turret]

SCIM is a save editor, lets you select and delete stuff from the map

[quiet gust]

I know

I've never used it for that but I know

For context I have like 1100 hours but I'm shit at understanding files

[leaden turret]

either:

• there are too many things on the map
• it is something in particular on the map

trial and error, either you find an exact number at which it doesn't crash (info for bug report), or there's one installation in particular that's buggy & you can see if it still crashes after being replaced- if it doesn't crash after being replaced, you can try loading the original save, rebuilding the problematic stuff, then see if that fixes it permanently

[quiet gust]

How would I know what's problematic

Like, I have way too much to trial everything

Am I supposed to delete specific factories or like specific vehicles or what exactly

[leaden turret]

delete in large chunks

delete half the map

keep deleting by half until your narrow it down

[quiet gust]

Oh hell nah that took like 300 hours to make

[leaden turret]

rename session to avoid accidentally borking main save

[quiet gust]

Yes I get that but then if I'm using the new save how do I come back to still having my stuff

[leaden turret]

renaming the session means you won't accidentally delete stuff from your actual playthrough

also, copy/paste the files if you want to be super-secure

[quiet gust]

I'll make a backup before ofc

So are you saying like make a copy of the world half deleted

See if it still crashes

Try again type thing so I know what's wrong

[leaden turret]

yup

[quiet gust]

I'll try that as a last resort I'm going to try to see if graphics driver or similar is the issue I've heard that's the main issue in 1.1

[leaden turret]

iirc, the trick with drivers is to try the studio drivers

[quiet gust]

No clue what that means

[leaden turret]

more stable but less performant, I think?

[quiet gust]

I don't know what a studio driver is

[leaden turret]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/232934/

[shy fog]

"studio drivers" is basically a catch all for whatever video card drivers you are using

the two main ones are from AMD and NVidia

there are others, but they're not very commonly used by gamers

when in doubt about what you have I say use speccy

[ivory condor]

Unfortunately Nvidia drivers have been garbage all year, so if your using the latest ones, pray

I think infact if your still using 40 series nvidia gpu the goto advise is to still use the 566 drivers from last year

And if your on 50 series nvidia gpu, again pray send help

[sturdy ore]

whats the best tickets to effort ratio? there must be something better then just making ballistic warp drives

[elder apex]

tickets to effort is hard to quantify, since the amount of effort put into something varies from person to person. In your example, one person might make a giant factory that makes 20 bwd/min, while another person makes a 1 bwd/min blueprint and spams it 20 times. The amount of effort involved varies drastically for the same ticket rate

[sturdy ore]

thats also true but what if instead of bwd i could make a 100 something that could give more points. i think my question would have been better as a ticket to complexity ratio. my bad

[elder apex]

each time you make a product out of another set of products you are doubling or more the points for the sum of the items used to make the product, so you'd need to find something extremely simple to make that somehow yields a large number of base points

[ancient sky]

I need help on a decision, I LOVE playing satisfactory but cry myself to sleep when I play satisfactory, should I get/play Factorio?

[elder apex]

i'm the wrong person to ask, i haven't played factorio much, mostly because i'm stuck in Satisfactory

[distant pulsar]

why is satisfactory so tormenting for ya?? lol

[leaden turret]

hannah's revenge for working on the map for 8 years

[leaden turret]

that is... not correct.

at all.

[ivory vessel]

Just got the game

Have no dang idea what I’m in for past a first person factory building game

I mean I’ve played tons of resource management games but most of them were the above head park management stuff so

Idk how this is gonna go but

I’m here now

[leaden turret]

don't forget to eat, sleep, and poop.

[ivory vessel]

You mflippersforget to do that here?

Is it that addictive

[leaden turret]

looks at 4k+ hours

no comment

[elder apex]

and play the game before hanging out in here too much, you'll get things spoiled for you unintentionally

[ivory vessel]

Fair enough I just joined for future use

Imma go play now

See yah

[leaden turret]

dev streams are on tuesdays, due to return in august

[eager quarry]

Here I thought the Magnetic Field Generator would be difficult to build. Then I took a look at the rest of phase 4 items...

[worn edge]

suddenly its 8:30 am

time for sleep

i started at 12 looking to finish my steel factory but now suddenly i have a total new factory for everything

[fathom shuttle]

Ironically the hardest part to build for me is the magnetic field generators lol

Just because it’s annoying lol

[frail sleet]

my advice would be not to build in excessive quantities

that makes it so much slower (especially if you have to ship-in resources, or use recipies like pure everything to make it work)

Well, in hindsight, belting from A to B isn't that bad for moving ore.

[sterile blade]

@leaden turret I think there might be a missing Archive clip...
I can't find any clip about the Programmable Splitter question I asked in Q&A (I need to dig up to find the date of the stream)

22/04/2025

[covert talon]

is coal power not infinite

[boreal musk]

wdym by that

as in what

[covert talon]

like unlimited power as soon as it gets running

unlimited time not actual power number

[boreal musk]

as long as it gets fed, it will keep running forever

and resources node is unlimited, they will always produce coal

same as water

[covert talon]

if it gets overconsumed and shuts off does the water start to drain?

[boreal musk]

you provide the water as much as it needs

you can see the machine panel inside the coal gen to see how much it consumes every min

[spice patio]

For Nvidia, those Studio Drivers are driver branch that is coded to be to the specs.
Game Ready Drivers are branch that is coded to be fast, no matter what, including ignoring the spec, and then doing game specific tweaks to make it actually work.

[covert talon]

oops i forgot to power the miner

[velvet drum]

for my fuel power plant should i just use liquid fuel or should i be using containers?

[mild finch]

wdym?

[dense violet]

Well you can’t put packaged fuels in fuel generators

[leaden turret]

Check under conveyor belt topic or ping later when I'm back on computer

[mild finch]

haves some fun

[marble socket]

waves

[charred ruin]

man i forgot how fun this game actually is

[ruby steppe]

kinda dumb idea... but... can you transport mobs? and would they disapear over time?

[charred ruin]

i didnt really play for a while after 1.0 came out, but i finally sat down to actually do a full playthrough

[undone lichen]

Welp i kinda made a 30/min instead, 1K+ MW usage, my coal powerplant ain't going to be happy

[sterile blade]

I think the answers are yes and no, respectively

Mobs don't disappear so long as you're close

[turbid dome]

@idle pollen should post something cool here

[idle pollen]

No

[turbid dome]

Aw dang it

[south kindle]

I am growing tired of walking

when do i get jetpack?

tier 4?

[boreal musk]

5

[eager tartan]

Guys im now in Tier 3, how many Iron plate per minute factory should I design. Keep in mind I still have Mk1 miners

[south kindle]

T_T

at least I have a full assembly platform but my god the inefficiency

[charred ruin]

Im going straight for the hover pack when its available

[sterile blade]

Ironically, if you explore enough, you might get one early ^^

[charred ruin]

The jetpack has been nice

But its no hover pack

[idle pollen]

They’re both good in different ways, the jet pack is faster but the hover pack can be used continuously

[sly bloom]

Hey guys, im trynna build a plastic and rubber setup, using the recycled dilute fuel recipe stuff, Can anyone give me the correct math for it?

[south kindle]

Think hover pack would be better, want bird's eye build view more easily

[charred ruin]

One geothermal generator and my generation is almost double my max consumption

Its so nice to have

[south kindle]

Decided to acceleate development by crafting parts I need more of

Nice

[reef basin]

yes, any third party tool that can do the math

[sly bloom]

Its my first time working with satisfactory modeler. Any tips?

[reef basin]

my tip would be to not use modeller

but if you like it, go with it 🤷 but it's more like a logistical planner rather than a calculator

[charred ruin]

Welp time to just let the game run for a few hours

[reef basin]

why?

Satisfactory is not an idle game

[charred ruin]

I mean right now theres not much i can do except wait for the phase 3 parts to come in

[reef basin]

explore

build new factory

[arctic swallow]

kill, murder everything thats moves cover the world in cement

[charred ruin]

Actually now that you mention it

I made a second foundry

Steel was a bit slow

I might go looking for more somersloops

[reef basin]

I don't need to do logistical planning, best logistical planner is the game itself

[charred ruin]

Ive managed to avoid (most) of the spaghetti i had in my early access playthrough

Still a little spaghetti, but nowhere near as bad

My factory planning isnt really planning

Its just "ok this needs 240/min, and this makes 60/min"

And then just plopping down 4 of the 60/min

[reef basin]

I mean what more do you want from it? 😄

[charred ruin]

Its the simplest form of planning

But oh man im dreading copper powder for next phase

I never finished my EA playthrough because no matter how much copper i added to the production line

It was still ungodly slow

[sly bloom]

Okay guys, i finished the math on the recycled plastic, but im having issues with the rubber. Any ideas on what to do with the 33 fuel that i cant use for anything?

[reef basin]

why can't you use 33 fuel for anything? 🤔

[sly bloom]

Cause i checked up with the plastic recipe and the rubber, according the the math The fuel wont be able to be recycled into anything where its usefull for me

[tall lantern]

unless you're doing some very unbalanced ratio, you can use the fuel

[reef basin]

i mean 33 fuel is practically equal to 33 extra plubber

[sly bloom]

Im just doing satisfactory modeler, with 30 oil per min

[sly bloom]

It would just be turned into plastic, Which isnt what i want with the rubber recipe

[reef basin]

you can turn it into plastic and then back into rubber

[sly bloom]

hollup lemme test something

And im still fairly new to satisfactory modeler

[reef basin]

see e.g. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=wtItb5Ec9CJursVxmWY2

450 of each, no byproducts.

you can change the numbers to anything, as long as it is 900 total, it will always use 300 oil

[charred ruin]

I think the reason i like this game so much is because it scratches that same itch in my brain modded minecraft does

With the automation and resource management

[sly bloom]

How can i make a production line in modeler, Where it will only take away a certain amount?

[reef basin]

not sure about modeller, but the site I've sent above can do it

[ripe basin]

Good day guys

[sly bloom]

K ive figured out the the math, But modeler wont allow me to connect some stuff without all of it just going to 0

[charred ruin]

Also man i wish i could build a factory that looks anywhere near as good as the trailers

[boreal musk]

set it to manual

[sly bloom]

K

where do i do that

nvm

[eager tartan]

if I have like 3 constructors right which all need a diff per minute input of the same material and i put a common conveyer belt with splitters for them which delivers exactly how much input they need will it work. Or shall I get diff belts which carry the correctr input and directly link it

[boreal musk]

setting > general > calculator manual

[mild finch]

type the limit below

[mild finch]

oooh, noice, will remember that

[eager tartan]

Cld anyone advice b4 I make changes to my factory. Wld be v apprecaited

[reef basin]

just have single splitter and it will self-balance

[reef basin]

well again, with Satisfactory Tools it's like a 5 seconds job 🙂 but if you like modeller, I can't really help you as I don't use that one (and don't like it much)

[eager tartan]

For context im making a reinforced iron plate factory, can I just have one central conveyer belt which takes all the Iron ingots to various constructors. is what im basically asking

[sly bloom]

K i did the math and models correctly so the ratio should be roughly 1-3

[reef basin]

yes, manifolds normally work

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

it will fill and self-balance

[eager tartan]

much appreciated wise sir

[tall lantern]

provided your belts are fast enough for it, anyway.
(Which is no different to anywhere else, but often forgotten)

[fathom shuttle]

Bro gets high on his own supply

[wide mango]

I love quitting satisfactory in 2023 and coming back wondering what the fuck is all of this :D

[fathom shuttle]

Wait until you get to tier 9

[wide mango]

I cba to grind for it rn

[fathom shuttle]

You will

[lost wagon]

Bookie was right, satisfactory logistics is pretty good, combines the automated production line generation from tools and the fancy flowchart (also recipe control) from modeler

To make it better is just making it a standalone app because I have too many tabs lmao

[wide mango]

no :(

[velvet ledge]

Hi

[fathom shuttle]

So it appears I might have made a lil too many automated wiring

20k of it to be exact

[wide mango]

Not enough

[primal girder]

yo can someone tech me? im kinda new but nor rlly new

like i know the basics

[leaden turret]

awake now, what was the question?

[sterile blade]

Wether devs were aware that Programmable Splitter can load-balance sushi and if "yes" wether they were gonna "fix/complete" that feature (almost word-for-word)

[fathom shuttle]

Im gonna turn all of it into assembly director systems

[wide mango]

I love using a constructer with a sommersloop and getting soooo much power shards

[leaden turret]

I don't remember that question being asked on-stream?

[sterile blade]

It was. First time I got to (finally) get an answer to that ^^

Is the stream still up somewhere? Maybe I can find the timestamp

[leaden turret]

pulls open project file to see if it was answered but not uploaded

nope, nothing there.

stream's not up, but I still have the vod if you remember vaguely when it was answered

[sterile blade]

Uhm... Between the questions with 20 and 10 Upvotes....? Is that helpful? 😅

[spring elm]

Does DEV have plans to do a small light? I really need it.

[leaden turret]

lolnope 😛

[leaden turret]

November 19th, 2024 Livestream
Q&A: Why not smaller Lights?
https://youtu.be/S_Qdy6INTno

[leaden turret]

during state of dev? during community highlights? beginning / middle / end of q&a?

[sterile blade]

Middle-to-end of Q&A

[fathom shuttle]

Has anyone asked the devs why they don’t make junctions single direction like belts are

[smoky forge]

can someone help me in #dedicated-servers

[leaden turret]

pipes, you mean?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, and junctions as well

[leaden turret]

I mean pipe junctions as opposed to train junctions 😛

[fathom shuttle]

Oh

[leaden turret]

fluids go sploosh

<@&370483737957236737> tesla valve pipes, maybe?

[leaden turret]

meh, q&a is only an hour, can play it while playing AC3 😅

ooh, funny facial expression on Mikael

[eager tartan]

how do I adjust launch angle of jumpad

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory-memes message

[sterile blade]

Can't you check in the script for mentions of "programmable splitters"?

[leaden turret]

reminder that youtube once transcribed "lizard doggo" as "eliza taco"

I recently reconsidered doing offline transcriptions only to discover that mozilla had stopped working on their speech-to-text model 🤷‍♂️

[fathom shuttle]

Stepfun has a really good mode

It’s also open source

[leaden turret]

has docker support already, will give it a look

[leaden turret]

found it.

question was answered, but the question itself wasn't read out so it wasn't uploaded 😅

people were not aware, but they are probably fine with leaving it as it is

[wind vector]

what do you even use the programable splitter for

[leaden turret]

if transcript existed, would've had to search for "vencam" 😛

[sterile blade]

Thx! <3

[leaden turret]

you'll need to check with @void gorge for follow-up

[sterile blade]

I hope I'll be able to ask in a stream soon™

[velvet ledge]

Satisfactory Who's coming for PS5

[exotic marsh]

hello uh

why are my factories disappearing?

can someone help :/

[terse kindle]

Does the “respawn flora” feature in SCIM restore poison pillars?

[slate igloo]

I am having some issues with repeated crashing right after joining a friends server. Sadly I play via geforce now so I can't get the full crash report, but figured I'd ask if it was a problem more people was having

[stuck dagger]

Having to recolor everything and put back missing foundations is killing my motivation to play the game again, last time I'm using a mod that adds swatch slots

at least no machines are affected but if I find out that one of my tractors or whatever is falling through a hole

[steady glade]

is there a known issue with straight belt build mode making them not straight?#screenshots message

[left totem]

what killed my motiv was doing trains and moving around the map, so I added mods to fix that, infinite spline and like super ultra legs that make me jump all around the map

The game was very fun this way

[fathom shuttle]

Tbh I found that trains are kind useless, for long distances it’s possible to make belt highways that are very big, it became way easier after bp auto connect

A 3x3 belt highway can transport 10800/min items if you’re using Mk6 belts

4x4 is is 20k

And so on

But I’ll still use trains cause they’re cool

[reef basin]

a 1x1 train track can support almost infinite amount of items

[fathom shuttle]

As long as the trains dont stop because they’re getting backed up I guess

[reef basin]

if they are backed up, you've built it wrong 🤷

[fathom shuttle]

you’ll need to build the stations as well for each trains/material you’re transporting too

[reef basin]

two stations at each end vs building a few belts the whole way. I know which one I'd pick

[fathom shuttle]

Traffic can back up very easily with a lot of trains on the track if you have a junction in there

[reef basin]

then build the junction so that it doesn't dealy trains 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

You can’t, it’s literally impossible if you have a chance of a train entering the junction

Otherwise red light and roundabouts wouldn’t exist irl

[reef basin]

you can, it's called 3D

if you're building train roundabouts then I'm not surprised your train network sucks 😄

[boreal musk]

3d junction exist

and train throughput is much larger than belt highway

[cobalt elm]

Can someone make an explorer and then delete it. Will this make so the motor parts gets missing for you? (Thinking my thing should be a old save issue)

[fathom shuttle]

Is your inventory full?

[cobalt elm]

Nope . Tried this when I had slots left. (5ish )

Then it seem to be just me and nothing to worry about 🙂

[boreal musk]

does it always happen when you deconstruct it?

[cobalt elm]

Yep it does

Might be something in my save (started at 1.0) it's good that's it's not a bug 🙂

[boreal musk]

have u tried it in another save to see if it does the same?

[winter ruin]

Is it possible to place 1300 fuel generators and still have a playable save?

[boreal musk]

depends if your pc can handle all the processing or not

[winter ruin]

I have a ryzen 7 5800x so maybe

Im upgrading to a r5 9600x in a week or 2 so that will also help

I should be more concerned about actually placing that many

Im gonna need a supercomputer if I keep doing large projects like this

would have had more if 1.1 didn't break my last save

yeah ik

I have been slowly working on it for the last week

Im about to start making the 5400 rocket fuel/min

Real

323974mw

I might only place enough for 320GW and leave the rest for jetpacks/vehicles

I dont know how im going to

[sly bloom]

Jesus christ, I was once close to making 9000 per min but stopped cause of the sulfur usage, How much sulfur are you using?

[winter ruin]

3600/min

[sly bloom]

You are using nitro rocket right?

[winter ruin]

I still need to find the nodes I want to use

[winter ruin]

Yes

[sly bloom]

What tier are you?

[winter ruin]

Just got to 7/8

[sly bloom]

K so heres my advice

[winter ruin]

Started this is tier 6 and originally was gonna just do 12000 fuel/min

[sly bloom]

Unlock mk 3 miners

[winter ruin]

Already did

[sly bloom]

Use them on only normal veins

[winter ruin]

I understand why but that will take forever lol

Im gonna use the 2 pure coal nodes in the grassy starting area still

[sly bloom]

Use trains for some and with the compacted coal you get from nitro rocket, make turbofuel for drones

[winter ruin]

That belt would make this so much easier

3 mk6 belts and I would be done

[sly bloom]

yeah, but only use normal veins, cause then you can get maximum yield

[winter ruin]

True

[sly bloom]

You can also use impure

[winter ruin]

eh

[sly bloom]

But dont use pure

Where are you building it btw?

[winter ruin]

The first starting area

grassy fields or whatever its called

[sly bloom]

Oh dang, and using that for fuel power? why not build it close to oil veins

[winter ruin]

Cause im dumb lol

[south plume]

Guys I found a B-374 helmet. Is it only for visual purposes or does it give any additional protection?

[winter ruin]

I already have all the oil that I need here

and im only using 1350/min

Oil -> heavy oil residue - > diluted fuel -> nitro rocket fuel

[sly bloom]

But yeah use trains for the close veins, And use the compact coal to make turbo fuel for drones

[sly bloom]

Thats also what i did.

[winter ruin]

I have a large train network but its starting to get kind of busy so I'm trying to avoid trains

[south plume]

Haha

[boreal musk]

cosmetic

[atomic notch]

everyone takes it way tooo seriously

[south plume]

I was hoping to find another piece of this armor giving me +3 to speed and survivability. Whole armor set would give huuge stats

[gusty lark]

Guys, rocky desert, northern forest, or dune desert

[fathom shuttle]

Dune desert

[gusty lark]

Alr thank you

[tepid moss]

Hello, not sure if this is the best place to ask. I'm playing with a controller and cannot figure out how to type. Any advice?

[winter ruin]

Its likely you will still need a keyboard for that

[south plume]

Any particular reason for your choice?

[tepid moss]

I am playing via steamlink because my cat goes crazy if I'm in the computer room. I figured it out. Playstation button plus X. Probably similar for xbox

[reef basin]

roll a dice

and you're missing grassy

[eager tartan]

#screenshots message

if my tractor some how falls off is it bye bye resources and tractor

[undone yarrow]

Tmk vehicles teleport if they get stuck

[shy fog]

they do much funnier when they get stuck with you on them

[sinful carbon]

ngl it would be useful if you could set a item limit inside of machines

so it only fills up with for example 50 resources instead of the stack limit

[shy fog]

if you are thinking of balanced loaders they exist but that is entirely a you problem and not a machine problem

[sinful carbon]

sure lemme just load balance every factory

[shy fog]

you can technically, it's not worth it always

manifolds are easier to build, but not always balanced input

[sinful carbon]

being able to set a stack limit would only shorten the duration it takes a manifold factory to get efficient

[shy fog]

welcome to cost/benefit

also known as "blueprints"

steam or epic Oladik?

[sinful carbon]

if thats not meant by the developers its a useless feature

[shy fog]

buy the game bro

[sinful carbon]

only makes things take more time which is the most boring unengaging way to stretch gameplay

[shy fog]

ironically they made it effortless to make your blueprints to load balance...

[sly bloom]

Finally got my recycled plastic up and running, 1 to 3 crude oil to plastic ratio is crazy

[atomic notch]

Fair

[sly bloom]

Rules of pirate. Pirate AAA games, Buy smaller game companies

https://tenor.com/view/rule732-gif-25357584

[shy fog]

ah but it's also just really poor manners to ask for help from developers after admitting you haven't actually paid for their effort

[open pollen]

Especially on the satisfactory discord tbh

[sly bloom]

Satisfactory is one of those autism games if yall get what i mean

[mortal ginkgo]

No I dont get it.

[sly bloom]

Ok then i cant really explain it

[mortal ginkgo]

[digital holly]

Simple explanation, Belts should be perectly lined, they should not differ one meter between the start of the belt and the end / corner of the belt..

Especially when building them on foundation floors..

[mortal ginkgo]

by this explanation I think some folks should not look at the screenshot section by any means kek

[fathom shuttle]

Oh wow I’m getting like 400k/min point from sinking the aluminum im making

[hot rock]

What if you make clones via time and space manipulation and sink yourself...? 🤔

[sly bloom]

Lowk guys hear me out on the pioneer

Why not >: (

[hot rock]

Side note, one thing that kinda makes me upset is how milestone completion works for the achievement

[fathom shuttle]

800k/min points mean I’ll get the golden nut statue in like 200 hours

[digital holly]

It looks like screenshots don't work here

See screenshots section !

[sly bloom]

Farm animal remains put some somersloops in constructers, that should speed it up

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I already have 3200 capsules in storage containers

[mortal ginkgo]

God

the horrors.

[fathom shuttle]

I’m pretty sure that’s like 100 tickets or so

[sly bloom]

thats 10% though

[fathom shuttle]

Yea but it’s still 100 tickets

[sly bloom]

exactly yhats alot

[hot rock]

Elaboration:
If you're offline for one milestone out of the tier you don't get the milestone completion

Normally this makes sense but when you're doing co-op with someone and your time zones don't line up it's very frustrating to have to replay the entire game because you missed a single tier 7 milestone

[sly bloom]

10% is alot

[fathom shuttle]

After the 1000th ticket each one will cost 27m points

[sly bloom]

(._.)

[fathom shuttle]

Well the good news is that if I sink the fused modular frames I’ll make my points will shoot up to 2.7m/min

[hot rock]

What tier are you?

[fathom shuttle]

Still tier 8

[digital holly]

Phase 4 is alreadu pretty tough..

[hot rock]

Gah, I forgot what tier the super super computers are

[hot rock]

Tier 9 unlocks some REALLY good stuff to sink

[fathom shuttle]

Tier 8

[steady glade]

maximum amount of uobjects and im not even past phase 3

[hot rock]

Nuclear Pasta is also a really good sink if you can make extras

[hot rock]

Neural-Quantum Processor are 9

Hence the super supercomputer

[digital holly]

i have to few resource nodes to get Phase 4 running..

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’m planning 10

[hot rock]

10 Pasta factories at 0.5 per min (base speed) gives 2,694,880 per min

[lament lily]

wish me luck. I've decided to start a new playthrough again. This time solo. Lets see where this goes

[dreamy bane]

so i wanna start building trains

[shy fog]

reminder: trains don't go uphill well

[dreamy bane]

im planning to build like a foundations in the sky and get the trains on them so it would be like a cool looking sky train mid air

is that feasible?

[shy fog]

yes, you can even place entire platforms above the planet

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=viaduct+AND+train

[shy fog]

there's entire playthrus about covering the sky in foundation too

[dreamy bane]

is this how people normally do it or is it better to place it on terrain

[shy fog]

for your first time, just try getting something imported to your factory

don't make it pretty, don't make it epic, just make it

[leaden turret]

you're free to build however you want

[dreamy bane]

i wanna avoid rough terrain the forest and stuff

[shy fog]

as long as the rails connect it travels

[dreamy bane]

nah im just curious cuz maybe this plan is wayy too ambitious

[shy fog]

it may crash if you use too many trains on one line without proper planning, thus why learn how to make one line

like oh... get a train bringing oil products home

perhaps oil itself because it's possible

[dreamy bane]

lol thats exactly what i need it for right now

my oil plant is like 2k meters away from base

i wanna skip trucks and go straight to trains

[shy fog]

good news then, you know how you have to drive a truck to make a route already, just build a rail instead

[dreamy bane]

💀

[shy fog]

don't bother with pretty, just make it go from A to B

[dreamy bane]

just like most thing i do eh

got it thanks

[shy fog]

remember, if you need to do something stupid to learn how to do it smart, do something stupid

trucks to learn basic logistics

rail to make it more efficient

josh to make a nuclear tornado

if at first you don't succeed find out why. -Mrs. Frizzle

[dreamy bane]

love josh

[leaden turret]

if at first you don't succeed, try chewing them, seeds aren't liquid.

[shy fog]

oh.. and uh... 2 meter climbing foundations are great for trains...

[dreamy bane]

got it btw whos mrs. fizzle?

[leaden turret]

magic shool bus

[kind rose]

cartoon science teacher

[shy fog]

if you prefer Maxim 70: Failure is not an option. It is mandatory. The option is whether or not to let failure be the last thing you do.

everybody fails, everybody learns, but not everybody decides to stop at that

be brave, do silly things in game, never worry about the chances A.D.A. will be snarky because that is 100% going to happen

[sharp sentinel]

Me: Why isn't my pipeline transporting the entire 600l of water it should be?
-discovers that where the pump is the pipe is still mk1-

[shy fog]

see, a perfect example of a failure and finding out why

and then a fix is much easier

[sharp sentinel]

I didn't realise putting the pump on there made that a whole separate piece of pipe.

[shy fog]

pumps only increase headlift, not flow maximum

[sharp sentinel]

You might want to very slowly reread what I've said here.

I don't mean that nearly as nastily as it sounds.

[shy fog]

ok... I just failed at reading too

my bad, sorry

[sharp sentinel]

Once their batteries are charged I think I got two geotherms to cancel one another out.

[untold moat]

Josh taught me how to build vertically

[shy fog]

Josh taught many people in many games that if you can build, you're going to break something

[untold moat]

1: getting 600 m^3/min of flow is very hard.
2: pumps are not like IRL pumps (which generate flow) pumps generate (for my lack of a better word for the layman) pressure.

[untold moat]

Josh showed me this game, Xclipse showed me how to be sane in this game

[shy fog]

Shame on Xclipse

but on a more personal note... I should really stop trying to make a factory without a factory

[untold moat]

not that im a total rule follower. I handcraft EVERYTHING until coal power

[shy fog]

I hand crafted until almost oil

[untold moat]

then I do P2W strategies until I hit fuel power

[shy fog]

would have hand crafted more but there are big bad walls there

[sharp sentinel]

You're doing much the same thing as Arty here. I fixed it. It's working. I found the problem and it wasn't nothing complicated.

[untold moat]

didn't see that it was fixed, my bad. a lot of the community sometimes has a hard time understanding that just because it says it has a max throughput doesn't mean it will always do that throughput

[sharp sentinel]

Overclocking two water extractors to maximum and running them with mk1 pumps into a connector running into mk2 pumps then using a mk2 pump lift to move them upwards to my uranium plant isn't hard. Finding out there was a single stretch of mk1 pipe underneath my mk2 pump was the issue.

Well, my power plant is at max overclock.

It's using all 600l of water per minute.

It seems that one of my coal generator plants is struggling. Noticing small shifts on the power monitor. Blugh, now I have to go inspect them.

Strongly suspect I know where.

[untold moat]

ah, another follower of the task of Sysiphus...

[sharp sentinel]

I'm going to have to go to my other save and see how I averaged out at crater lake, because right now it seems to dip down in coal along the conveyor line despite massively over producing coal.

[charred ruin]

question about how the dimensional depot works

does it have infinite storage, or will it completely fill up with one item if i use it incorrectly

[shy fog]

full stack unless researched via M.A.M.

[fathom shuttle]

It’s 10/min

[shy fog]

so you can upload 500 concrete, or 200 plates

[hot rock]

10 pasta per min?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[hot rock]

Damn

[shy fog]

and to make that number higher you need more M.A.M. reserach, left tree

[fathom shuttle]

I have a bigger issue tho rn

[charred ruin]

so a full stack of items per item?

[fathom shuttle]

My electronics factory need 11 belts of quickwire

[shy fog]

yes, but that doesn't limit your input of said items

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, you can expand it to 5 stacks

[sharp sentinel]

It doesn't look like it was my crater lake plant.

[fathom shuttle]

And 240/min upload speed

[sharp sentinel]

Blugh. That means I have to check two other ones.

[shy fog]

you can build 5 upload points of copper if you felt like it

why you'd do copper, who knows

[charred ruin]

i was thinking id upload resources i use constantly

like iron plates, rods, concrete

that kinda stuff

[shy fog]

add one to your production chain with just a single splitter

it'll upload slowly, but it will upload

[fathom shuttle]

You should make an uploaded every item

[shy fog]

not every item...

[charred ruin]

yeah i wasnt planning every item

[shy fog]

I fully support making a gun factory which uploads ammo

[charred ruin]

but definitely every item you actually use constantly

[fathom shuttle]

It’s basically every item except space elevator parts

[ivory elm]

can someone with alot of experience join my world i need help with my base i have no space left to build

[charred ruin]

such as conveyor belt plates

and stuff

[shy fog]

Go up dastreet

[ivory elm]

up?

[shy fog]

foundation + climb into the air

[sharp sentinel]

Can't believe I'm flying around hunting a 250mw fluctuation in my 30k mw overhead.

[ivory elm]

ok

[shy fog]

nothing forces you to build at ground level

well... outside of fluids

but that can be fixed also

[fathom shuttle]

Bros

I dont think my grid can hold out until I build my nuclear reactor

[charred ruin]

so will it upload items infinitely

[fathom shuttle]

WAIT

[charred ruin]

but stop actually adding once it reaches a full stack

[fathom shuttle]

I can actually divert some of my rocket fuel production into power, I’m making 1200 rn

Lmao I can do 144GW off that

[sharp sentinel]

tmw best I can tell my power issues are likely caused by something on the polar opposite side of the map from me

[cloud crown]

every time i changed a graphics option it says "DX 11 is depracted"
should i worry?!

[fathom shuttle]

Is the game working fine?

[cloud crown]

Yeah thats the issue

[shy fog]

@charred ruin if you add to your production line an offshoot of what you use then when the stack depletes it'll just add more

[fathom shuttle]

Then it’s not an issue

[leaden ether]

This is a good start to the basic construction and utility items you should DD (Does not include the later alien tech or SAM items):
Iron Plate (Lots), Iron Rod, Reinforced Iron Plate, Steel Beam, Steel Pipe, Encased Industrial Beam, Concrete (TONS!), Plastic, Rubber, Copper Sheet, Wire, Cable, Quickwire, Quartz, Silica, Aluminum Sheet, Automated Miner, Solid Biofuel (Chainsaw), Other packaged fuel for jetpack, Power Shards,

[lime ermine]

The one that lets you make dark matter crystals out of only dark matter residue

[charred ruin]

so i could replace my container for encased industrial beams with a depot?

[shy fog]

should if you ask me if it's NOT part of the chain

eg: if the container is just a filler, and outputs?

[leaden ether]

You just add a depot on top of it

[charred ruin]

yeah its just to store them for personal usage

[shy fog]

so it doesn't feed to anywhere, then go for it

in fact, just add onto it

throw the dimensional depo next to it and feed it in

the best experience with them is actual use

[leaden ether]

If there is room the DDs attach to the top nice and neatly and don't take up any floor space

[unkempt ermine]

how can i connect conveyor to miningmachine?

[leaden ether]

(And yeah you need to use a belt lift to connect them that way) Use a Mk3 if you can as eventually you will need that.

[shy fog]

a miner mk 1 has an obvious output port

[unkempt ermine]

i booted up the game for the first time like 20 mins ago and nothing is obvious rn

[charred ruin]

so now i can access those encased industrial beams from anywhere

at any time

[shy fog]

ah, well the tutorial is just the start

[unkempt ermine]

skipped tutorial 😄

[charred ruin]

the small miner you place down? you cant

[unkempt ermine]

ah alr then

[leaden ether]

Yes, they will be in a UI attached to your inventory to grab them but also they will automatically be used anytime you build something.

[shy fog]

I recommend doing your P.O.O.P. then before you get into the real things

[charred ruin]

once you unlock the mk1 miner, you can connect a conveyor

[unkempt ermine]

thanks!

[charred ruin]

for your own sanity, i recommend rushing coal power

[shy fog]

you'll understand when you go thru it...

[open pollen]

Yep. Personally for most of my items I put into a depot I also have a storage container before it so there is some buffer

[unkempt ermine]

okay

[open pollen]

Shoulda played the tutorial if you have no idea what is going on tbh

[charred ruin]

i wish i could hold 2 scanners at the same time

[unkempt ermine]

yea lol

[charred ruin]

cause i need to look for mercer spheres and somersloops

[open pollen]

Frankly I’d reccomend restarting to do the tutorial if it’s only been 20 min and you don’t even have a mk.1 miner and know what it is

[unkempt ermine]

okay i'll restart then just so ik the basics 😄

[charred ruin]

mk2 scanner, able to scan for 2 items at the same time

[open pollen]

Sorry if I came off rude at all btw. I just think you’ll have issues grasping how to do tiers and the space elevator and progression in general

[charred ruin]

yeah skipping the tutorial is really only viable if youve played the game before or watched

a lot of youtube videos

[unkempt ermine]

noo you are completely right, i was a bit dumb to jump in the game blindly

[shy fog]

9200 hours here

STILL haven't cleared nuclear power

[unkempt ermine]

so almost 10k hours and you havent 100% everything yet?

[open pollen]

Oh geeze. I’m guessing you played before 1.0?

[shy fog]

I'm from before 0.8 days

but then again, I'm also a chaos agent

I tried the very epic dumb...

"exactly how much factory can I just not build"

spent a full day building a conveyer belt just to circle the map

drew smiley faces with concrete blocks...

yeeted about 300 trucks off the cliffs...

[open pollen]

I’ve got like almost 200 hours in the game and have yet to finish it (but I screw around a lot and I made a new save after not playing and fully finishing my first one)

[shy fog]

and yes, yeeted

[open pollen]

But-but why?

[shy fog]

because I'm insane and do stupid things... it's how you find weird stuff

[unkempt ermine]

i think you like the game, not sure tho

[shy fog]

like oh... I don't think youtube links work... but I can try this: watch?v=WkA-hzzBMmI

[sharp sentinel]

I am so proud of myself. For the first time ever in a save at 250 hours, I not only started but finished 1/4 parts for Phase 4.

[shy fog]

truck surfing can be detrimental to your health

granted I appreciate truck-kun's agressive defense of my existance

[old birch]

80 hours in and its suddenly started crashing to desktop. No idea why.

• Steam version
• High end system, well over game spec recs
• Updated/verified/redownloaded files
• Updated GPU drivers
  Is this a common issue?

[shy fog]

drivers is 80% recommended to be checked there

[sharp sentinel]

Special event where sometimes if the truck hits you hard enough your game crashes and Steam auto-launches Deep Rock Galactic. Isekai style.

[old birch]

Forgot to mention, I've updated Nvidea drivers. THank you though

[shy fog]

ok, what about your os?

[old birch]

All up to date with latest windows

[shy fog]

also the verification usually takes a lot of time

[split trench]

What is the call stack ?

[shy fog]

and... he's gonna be better than me at this

[old birch]

Call stack?

[old birch]

Thank you for taking the time, super appreciated

[split trench]

When you crash, you will an unreal crash reporting tool pop up, it would show a crash call stack, some gibberish text. Do you have that ?

[old birch]

Oh I see, yes.

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!D3D12RHI::TerminateOnGPUCrash()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp:875]

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!D3D12RHI::VerifyD3D12Result()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp:901]

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12DynamicRHI::ProcessInterruptQueue'::2'::<lambda_1>::operator()()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:984]

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12DynamicRHI::ForEachQueue()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12RHI.cpp:286]

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12DynamicRHI::ProcessInterruptQueue()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:1147]

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12Thread::Run()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:97]

FactoryGameSteam_Core_Win64_Shipping!FRunnableThreadWin::Run()
[D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private\Windows\WindowsRunnableThread.cpp:149]

[spice patio]

Downgrade your GPU drivers.
Current Nvidia ones have major issues.

[split trench]

If you dont have that, you can go to %LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\Logs and send me the log file from the session when you crashed.

[spice patio]

If on anything not 5000-series, go back to 566.36.

[shy fog]

yep, that gpu crash is very much likely because driver update is bad drivers

[split trench]

yeah a GPU crash, what baldur said, upgrade if you haven't for a while, downgrade if you have recently updated.

[gloomy heart]

anyone elses hypertubes not connecting?

[spice patio]

576.80 at least had major crash issues with the game on 4000 and 5000-series Nvidias.
Not sure about latest .88 that came out in last few days.

[shy fog]

@Meri only when I want to place a cannon

[old birch]

I was on the previous one yesterday and it was crashing (after playing 80odd hours with no issue), first thought was upgrading them. Did that this morning and still getting crashing. Particularly in my factory with everything running, if that would make a difference

[spice patio]

Try with those 566.36 drivers from last december.
The last actually stable Nvidia drivers so far.

For desktop cards: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/results/237719/

[shy fog]

not helpful Maxeek

[spice patio]

If doesn't help, make #1038092680493801533 thread for the issue.

If on Nvidia 5000-series, try with Studio Drivers instead.

[old birch]

Thank you kindly to all of you for taking the time. I'll try the driver downgrade first and go from there. Hopefully I can get it sorted as this is the first game to hold my attention for months

[sharp sentinel]

I think I'm about to eliminate a drone setup and just go for a monstrous conveyor across the cliffside, because I have it shipping two things at once and it's.... Not keeping up.

[ivory condor]

They can't fix the bad Nvidia drivers that have been releasing all year

[sharp sentinel]

Oh. It's a truck.

That explains everything.

After reviewing things, it's not the truck. it's the copper sheets mixed in.

[ivory condor]

Even Nvidia studio drivers suck now so there is no escape🙃

[untold ember]

if i make a bluepring in the MK.III blueprinter and transfer the blueprint to a new save, will i be able to make it? (assuming i have the resources for the blueprinted items themselves of course)

[split trench]

Even after lowering the GPU driver version, if you have a specific area in your save file where the game crashes, DM me your save file.

[old birch]

I shall, thank you again

[split trench]

Cause if you are in a really dense scene and if you alt tab or minimize the game , sometimes the Game+GPU can just give up

[shy fog]

if drones aren't enough it's probably better to make trains

[ivory condor]

Even Jensen can't fix the mess that Nvidia drivers now are

[covert talon]

anyone have a good video on designing a first factory

[old birch]

The first time I've been dissapointed in a 4090 😄

[shy fog]

define "first factory"

Josh builds chaos by default

[covert talon]

im just kinda lost on what to do, like what goes where, what to make etc

[distant pulsar]

Lets game it out's Youtube Channel is a good source of inspiration

[shy fog]

so... you want something for like guidance on how to get the first build?

[covert talon]

yep

[unkempt ermine]

why did my fps suddenly went from 90 to 10 and stayed there

[shy fog]

alright, you want a screenshot of a basic output then

[spice patio]

Usually too high texture quality for your VRAM.

[covert talon]

yea that would work

[unkempt ermine]

at my hub

[shy fog]

give me a moment...

[ivory condor]

Sure and pretend that Nvidia drivers aren't as horrible as they infact are

[unkempt ermine]

yea it ran perfectly and suddenly dropped rn

i didnt even do anything like building and stuff

i play on mid quality settings too

[spice patio]

Like I said, commonly from too high Texture Quality setting for your VRAM.
Low for 4GB, Medium for 6GB, High for 8GB, Ultra for 10+GB, without Frame Generation or Global Illumination, that need extra.

[ivory condor]

Heck I have had gpu crashes myself with this game also, thanks Nvidia apu your drivers are great

[spice patio]

And that your hardware is broken and unstable is known, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

[unkempt ermine]

i did this "hardver test" thing in the settings it set everything to high and my fps came back

im confused ngl

[spice patio]

Because the VRAM got emptied and refilled to just current scene.

[unkempt ermine]

ohh

[ivory condor]

Ue5 reminds me of disaster in progress if anything else

[spice patio]

Where as in normal gameplay the engine is slow to free old textures etc.
And has internal VRAM usage limiter, and when it hits that, it goes to low FPS mode from stupid stuff Epic coded to not allow GPU driver to manage VRAM.

[sharp sentinel]

I came over here to this one factory to do something, and got distracted optimising it. Now I can't remember what I was doing.

[ivory condor]

Its not my fault basically all ue5 games seem to have real issues with them

[leaden ether]

UE5.4 was kind of a disaster release for devs as well as players, It's looking like 5.6 is fixing all that though. Like significant free FPS gains by actually optimizing the engine as well as a lot of glaring bug fixes. Would be awesome of Satisfactory would update to it in a future patch but IMHO that's probably unlikely ;(

UE 5.4 was like windows Vista. They tried to do a lot and released it somewhat janky and unfinished.

[ivory condor]

I have 16gb vram and still have vram issues with ue5

[spice patio]

.

[ivory condor]

So tell me how much vram do I need again not to have vram issues?

[leaden ether]

16 should be plenty plenty. My current VRAM usage RN is only 7 GB

8 might be problematic...

[ivory condor]

Lol

[spice patio]

He has almost certainly broken GPU that is unstable.
And certainly some part of the system is unstable.

[shy fog]

are we using dialup teleportation or fiberoptic?

[ivory condor]

Trust me it isnt with ue5, its quite a demanding engine as it turns out

[spice patio]

Either broken from factory, or broken during install with ESD.

[haughty flax]

assuming i keep coal supplied, can i reliably setup 6 coal generators on a single pipeline of mk1 water?

i see its 50m per min but i know pipe usage is a bit funky?

[spice patio]

Few percents of factory OC GPUs are unstable from factory.

[fluid sapphire]

mk1 pipes are reliable at 300

[haughty flax]

i mean the generators use 50, so 50x6 = 300 but ive heard its a bit weird with the usage?

[fluid sapphire]

it should be ok

[haughty flax]

i have 3 water extractors onto a single pipe, so should be 360m but 60 is wasted which im fine with, hoping to keep it full to 300m in the pipe, then 6 gens

[ivory condor]

Even at 1440p 16gb vram isnt enough with ue5

[fluid sapphire]

you're better off having a ratio of 3:8 between your water extractors and generators and feeding from both ends

[haughty flax]

3 extractors and 8 coal gens? why, something with how frequently they require water lets u go over the math of 6?

[fluid sapphire]

3 extractors is just the exact number that perfectly supplies 8 generators

they actually use 45 water per min, not 50

[haughty flax]

oh really? even though the tooltip says 50?

im pretty new still, so this is interesting

[fluid sapphire]

which tooltip is that?

if you're talking about the bottom left section when you open the configuration for the generator, 50 cubic meters is its internal buffer, the consumption noted right below that is 45

its simple as long as you dont overcomplicate it

[haughty flax]

oh well there we go, i was just completely missing the consumption part below

[sharp sentinel]

Maybe it's time I stop caring about my power production line being perfectly straight and tap into all this free geo power...

[sinful carbon]

is iron wire really as good as people make it out to be?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, since it lets you have copper for other stuff and iron is everywhere

[sharp sentinel]

I went all the way to my other power plant, and I cannot find where this occassional random fluctuation is coming from. Everything seems to running perfectly.

[fluid sapphire]

S tier recipe

[sharp sentinel]

I must have like, a secret crappily setup fuel generator or coal generator somewhere.

[iron patio]

do i need buffers on my train station if im only using it to bring ressources to a storage system?

[sinful carbon]

that 1 to 1.9 ratio is annoying tho

[sharp sentinel]

It's production. I don't care about how wildly my consumption line wavers. There's a lot of stuff under and over producing I just cannot be bothered to optimise.

What's that one site that will let you see a map of your factories?

[sinful carbon]

i feel like the only reason devs made this is to be a slight inconvenience

[fluid sapphire]

sure but there are annoying ratios everywhere

[sharp sentinel]

Wait until you get to lategame and stuff is producing .17 of something.

[fluid sapphire]

not even late game, mid game

[fathom shuttle]

Do reactors consume water continually or is it built up inside

[sinful carbon]

are all the ratios just random stuff like 21:25 or something

at that stage

[sharp sentinel]

You can even most of it out by overclocking like I think Maxeek just said, but they are super weird and random.

[fathom shuttle]

Just set the number from the overclocking menu

Not hard

[sharp sentinel]

What gets me about this weird power fluctuation is, when I move to look at some of these power factories it disappears. Like maybe my not being near something is causing issues.

[fresh wharf]

Yo, my pc just straight up turned off while playing satisfactory (probably because of the heat)
Should I worry or not?

[south sinew]

probably yes, the hardware is supposed to throttle to avoid such things, if it's not doing that it may indicate hardware damage

[fathom shuttle]

It’s just weird things to do with loading and unloading things

I don’t get why people are bothered by small power fluctuations ngl

[shrewd palm]

has anyone else had issues with straight belts not being straight since 1.1?

[sharp sentinel]

I like my lines straight, unlike myself.

[fathom shuttle]

I have a 750mw fluctuation and idc enough to fix it

[undone lichen]

Does the point cost of a awesome shop ticket have a limit or is it infinitely inflating

[sharp sentinel]

#1390733326347800719 message

Look at this, this is madness.

[fathom shuttle]

It keeps going up until the 3000th ticket

At that point coupons will be 300m points lol

[undone lichen]

Goddamn

[fathom shuttle]

You only need like 2k at most tho, which can be made in like 50 hours during late game when you’re sinking really valuable items

[unkempt blade]

more coupons!!!

[undone lichen]

Well im getting like 90K points per min

Wonder how many minutes 300m will take

[fathom shuttle]

Just start sinking production that’s backed up/ you aren’t using

[peak wasp]

whats Mycelia best used for early game up in the rocky desert

[fathom shuttle]

I’m making 900k/min from aluminum and HMF

[undone lichen]

I have a smart splitter on every factory, if my storage is full it sends overflow to the sink

[mild finch]

Mycelia can be used for fabric, gas masks, healing items and biomass iirc, so early game, only biomass

[unkempt blade]

not even for Ficsdependance day?

[next meadow]

I wish building foundations in small dirt/sand mounds would destroy them.

Not destroy the foundations I mean, the mounds.

[unkempt blade]

it should probably destroy both just to be safe

[undone lichen]

Wait what about DNA points? Do they increase too

[next meadow]

No!

[peak wasp]

im in hour in and already have mam

[fathom shuttle]

DNA points are what you get from dna capsules, they can’t be automated so you’ll need to gather them manually

[peak wasp]

should i use it for making biofuel or Mam stuff only

[fathom shuttle]

It’s really easy tho if you sloop it

[snow forum]

is anyone here any good with rail networks? i need a bit of help

[undone lichen]

Aight but do they stay at 1000 points/coupon or does it increase too

[unkempt blade]

the trick is don't build too close to monster spawns BUT have your explorers automated to drive back and forth through them so they die

[fathom shuttle]

No its a linear increase, I think it’s 1k+every 3rd coupons

[undone lichen]

Or just load up your rebar gun and rifle with malicious intent

[undone lichen]

Oh ok

[unkempt blade]

sorry i'm team basher not team rebar

[undone lichen]

Bruh

[fathom shuttle]

It’s an easy source of tickets, just gather monster remains as you’re playing the game normally

[snow forum]

a train route requires more than one train on it, how do i set up block and path signals so neither train collides?

[fathom shuttle]

#1389248243023482951

[unkempt blade]

that's why you don't build the factory near them you just have the explorers drive through it

[undone lichen]

Just went back from a harddrive hunt, got tons of it

[fathom shuttle]

When you’re making dna capsules use Sommersloops

Each remain will give you 4 capsules this way

I already have 3.2k from it

[undone lichen]

4?

Oh right you can also duplicate the protein

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[mild finch]

It's not really a focus when in early early game, mycelia is only useful for gas mask, hazmat suits and heal, so exploration stuff

[tranquil maple]

Does anybody know of the top of their head how many MAM upgrades there are?

[fathom shuttle]

A lot

[tranquil maple]

I just counted mannually, I think its 103 not including the ficmas event

[mild finch]

I think we should count drived

[tranquil maple]

Okay

[lofty phoenix]

the crude oil making me crazy

[loud ivy]

you forgot about insanely free inhalers

[fluid sapphire]

creature hostility - retaliate, boom no longer needed

[sinful carbon]

how does the auto connect blueprint feature work

[fluid sapphire]

the thing you connect to needs to have either a port or a short belt stub, the new thing that you connect to it needs a belt stub

same for pipes

[quick crest]

anyone here figured out train signalling yet?

im totally dumb-founded

[loud ivy]

and i had over 2k alien protein

[quick crest]

even after youtube tuts

[loud ivy]

yes

[sinful carbon]

so when going from merger to merger for example both ends have to have a belt piece going out / into the merger?

[quick crest]

bro ill fkn pay you to hop on a call with me to explain

[loud ivy]

not like i have a shortage

[loud ivy]

alright bro,but not now

[unkempt ermine]

best way to get biofuel early?

i just reached phase 1 level 1 and 2

[hot rock]

Destroy the local bush population

[unkempt ermine]

lol

[quick crest]

appreciate it mate, i'll message you later! if anyone else here is free to help me quick id appreciate that too

[fluid sapphire]

run around while holding down E to pick up leaves, automate solid biofuel ASAP

[woven lava]

what teir do elevators unlock?

[sinful carbon]

its in awesome shop

[woven lava]

😮

[fluid sapphire]

you need steel production

[woven lava]

I wanna start a real world now..i've been messing in creative trying to get the gist of the game....this is s cool

[fathom shuttle]

Ok this is insane

My max consumption is 32GW, consumption is 20GW

Where is the 12GW of idle capacity?? It can’t be my rocket fuel plant

Oh wait

It’s probably my Caterium factory too

[unkempt blade]

you need more max power, that doesn't seem like nearly enough yet

[covert talon]

are there any sam nodes near here?
https://gyazo.com/74ce11e0a9ed5d817a697787576bbffa
its thee default easy spawn
south west

[remote wasp]

There is one in a cave there

[loud ivy]

trains have an idle capacity of 85MW for each locomotive

[fluid sapphire]

under the big arch

[unkempt blade]

yes, several

[remote wasp]

look at satisfactory calculator for a map https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[woven lava]

I wish elevators could carry vehicles

[loud ivy]

this adds up fast btw

[unkempt blade]

you need to use jump pads for that but it's way more fun

[woven lava]

i dont like jump pads lol

[unkempt blade]

you don't like playing human pinball?

[loud ivy]

human pinball is a hypertube cannon into any canyon

[sinful carbon]

human cannonball better (hypertube cannon)

[reef tundra]

game gets stuck when starting a save
i tried starting a older version of the save but the issue persists
pls help me out

[loud ivy]

actually is it golf?

[unkempt blade]

only if you put a jump pad where you would naturally land otherwise it's human golf

[covert talon]

is it a good idea to manually farm a bunch of sam before i automate it

[fathom shuttle]

I have 40GW, and I have a bunch of unused rocket fuel so power isn’t a problem

[fathom shuttle]

It just takes 1 miner and constructors to automate

[loud ivy]

just place an mk2 miner and half-automate it

[unkempt blade]

you should hook that rocket fuel up! make number go up!

[fathom shuttle]

Sink the Sam until tier 9

[woven lava]

are we not able to change the elevator floor names?

[covert talon]

its like 1500 m from my factory

[woven lava]

oh wait nvm

[sinful carbon]

does sam give a lot of sink points?