satisfactory

[white dawn]

Can always just leave your current stuff as-is, and set up new factories elsewhere.

[timber shoal]

why am i at max radiation despite not being near radiation or having uranium in inventory

[white dawn]

If you resist the urge to centralize, each new factory you make is a chance to avoid mistakes you made earlier on (and make all-new fun mistakes instead!)

[white dawn]

save/reload should fix it

One thing that persists radiation is if you sort your inventory with radioactive items in there; the radiation will stick around until the session is reloaded

Also sometimes when you remove uranium ore deposits, the environmental radiation doesn't go away without a reload

[leaden bone]

so satisfying when you do the calculations for something and the numbers all just work

could say feels satisfactory

[gritty sleet]

Do you suppose it's intentional that ziplining now disconnects and then reconnects every time it passes under one of the tall pylon posts?

[prisma forge]

welp, time to re-do my motor factory. From 15 motors per minute to 42.

(according to the satisfactory modeler calculations)\

[jaunty jewel]

what are you changing?

[prisma forge]

regular ingot recipe to pure

[jaunty jewel]

ah

[prisma forge]

will be posting pictures once it's done ;)

[elder apex]

use this to find the crash site you need if you haven't already found one: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2661233686

[quick barn]

So - when using the zapper, is the random punch hitting for the same amount of dmg?

If so - can we have that punch for the basher too? Its hillarious.

[lucid pagoda]

any chance u could explain this a wee bit, i got dedicated residue and polymer, just got recycled plastic

[dense violet]

oil -> HOR -> diluted fuel -> recycled Plastic/rubber

you start the process off with residual rubber/plastic from the resin

[lucid pagoda]

ah that makes sense, so a full line would be oil ->residue - >diluted fuel and residual -> recycled plastic

cus that leaves me with no unused byproducts, i think

[dense violet]

what do you mean by residue and residual? Resin?

oil -> HOR -> diluted fuel -> recycled Plastic/rubber
resin ---------------->

if you must include the 1 step resin in there

[lucid pagoda]

oh, the resin makes the rubber/plastic for recycled recipes

[frail sleet]

you're early midgame at most

don't worry about migrating to a new spot etc 😄

[dense violet]

only the starter batch

[lucid pagoda]

okay, i see

ty

[ionic forge]

is a main bus a thing in satisfactory

[lucid pagoda]

imo, its not a necessary thing in satis, but its possible

[alpine apex]

why are trainrails so inconvinient in rocky terrain

[ionic forge]

ah i see

[lucid pagoda]

what id recommend, is lots of smaller factories, if you want everything in one place, use trains to bring the finished product from those factories to a storage hub rather than bringing unprocessed ores to a mega factory

[ionic forge]

i see....

so basically spread out

[dense violet]

do you mean just a bunch of belts near each other, or belts that have mixed items that are taken on and off throughout the whole factory?

[burnt ferry]

oh damn... the map has a creepy swamp.. didnt even knew that

[native crown]

how do you all get rid of water byproduct from aluminium?

[dense violet]

use it in another process.

simplest is to just reuse it in it's own system #1347741162018046083 message

[ionic forge]

belts that carry the same / similar items near each other that goes throughout the whole factory

[dense violet]

that's just many manifolds next to each other.
it doesn't do anything mechanically that if you moved them away from each other.

except take up more space obvs

[maiden jacinth]

yea
its called a train

oh wait you mean in a factory

yea sure
an some people use a ton of sushi belts

[dense violet]

You'll probably find yourself in situations where you need 1 or more whole belts for individual processes, so having the belts just snake around everywhere is a little pointless

[maiden jacinth]

tbf with the new production speed tracker it has a purpose now

if you have a big stack of belts you can monitor all the throughputs

[thorn flint]

I want to make sure I know before I do it, I want to change creature hostility to retaliate but im unsure if it disables achievments

[late void]

only advanced disables achievements game settings r fine

[ionic forge]

so it is smart to have a main bus

[thorn flint]

ok thx

[hollow vector]

kinda useless

since when you reach tier 7/8

your already in "creative mode"

[dense violet]

that is the complete opposite of what I was saying

[reef basin]

not really tbh

[late void]

I’ve only used ags to spawn a bunch of like slugs early game so i agree it’s more fun to play anyways

[gritty sleet]

Main bus makes sense in Factorio, a lot less in Satisfactory.

[dense violet]

it takes up more space for no real benefit.

why would you run a belt through a whole factory if it's delivering everythign it has to one system

[gritty sleet]

How can I disable these new "don't quit when autosaving, don't have a seizure" warnings when the game starts?

[ionic forge]

yeah im having this brain

first time playing satisfactory

but have 600+ hours in factorio

[dense violet]

it also makes less sense because you can build in multiple floors in satisfactory
so your extra belts can just feed a system almost on the same spot

[maiden jacinth]

to use the throughput monitors in a central location

[dense violet]

why would I want an excuse to use a useless item? I know where I built things as I write a quick note down

[gritty sleet]

But why do you need the throughput monitors in a central location if items are only going from A to B?

[maiden jacinth]

aesthetics

[dense violet]

little bumps on a belt? eh whatever gets you going

[gritty sleet]

Bumps with frickin' laser beams attached, I suppose, but still, not worth rerouting the entire factory either imo.

[maiden jacinth]

yea for sure if youre going for optimal

but it could be nice to have a room that lets you monitor the throughput of all the belts in your factory
or at least the ones you find important

[gritty sleet]

I haven't added them to my existing factories yet, but I'd probably use them for the final outputs, or where there's some tricky splitting or merging going on.

Although with the priority merger that's WAY less of an issue now, and the place I could've used a throughput monitor can now be massively simplified by a priority merger rather than needing a merry-go-round of regular splitters and mergers.

[maiden jacinth]

I dont think its worth adding them to an existing factory tbh
maybe in some spots

but building around it could be interesting

[gritty sleet]

I tend to math everything out for 100% effiency anyway (up to the point where the storage backs up anyway, then straight into the sink), so they're not super useful in general.

[ionic forge]

when do i get ladders

[gritty sleet]

You unlock them in the AWESOME shop at any time

[jovial seal]

awesome

[ionic forge]

or elevators, im currently using a watchtower as a ladder

ah okay, imma go craft it

[gritty sleet]

But you need sufficient tickets from sinking overflowing items for them. Ladders are cheap, elevator not so cheap.

You can't craft it, gotta unlock first.

Oh you mean craft the shop, yeah do that.

[finite saddle]

who here is good w pipes

i got a quick question

[reef basin]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[ionic forge]

is that, IS THAT A FACTORY CART

[finite saddle]

sorry

[gritty sleet]

Yes indeed lol, amazing traction on foundation, horrible traction on natural ground

[ionic forge]

Im gonna feed the sink my copper ingots

[viral tendon]

I have 90 hours in this game

Somehow

[gritty sleet]

90 hours is a lot for most games, but I feel like it's not a ton for Satisfactory 😅

[viral tendon]

Idk how much time will it take me to re do all the stuff, I have massive production

[late void]

Hours don’t matter i’ve spent upwards of 250+ already building roads

[viral tendon]

I have 20k hours if we count every game

[frail sleet]

yeah that checks out

satisfactory campaign is extremely long

[viral tendon]

Maybe like 16k cuz I wasn't the one to play some games on that acc

[viral tendon]

Yeah I'm not spending another 90 hours

[frail sleet]

dont blink

you will wake up and have 1257 hours

[viral tendon]

I always follow the rule: if it works, don't touch it

That's what I do

[viral tendon]

Happened to me maybe like 3 or 4 times

And about the same amount of hours

I have 1000 hours on cookie clicker

[ionic forge]

its not for most automation games

[viral tendon]

Is that bad

[viral tendon]

90 hours isn't a lot for any game except story games

[maiden jacinth]

the first diluted fuel receipie is funny

but I have a small heavy oil residue diluted fuel plant now

[tall root]

90 hours is a lot of time

[rough bolt]

Making a loop with a pipe basically doubles the flow rate right?

[viral tendon]

I've spent 40 days clicking on cookies

90 hours isn't that much for me

[mortal pond]

this is getting ridicolous

I can't find SAM anywhere 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

hint: find big caves

[tall root]

Or in a few cases look up high

[mortal pond]

I just fought with a big-ass spider with rabies on a big cave and found nothing

[round hound]

git gud

[ionic forge]

turning copper ingots into wire before feeding the sink

pretty sure i get more points this way

[mortal ginkgo]

the one I found was behind a rock, protected by poison gas and had long distance to reach to its massive middle

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, the more processes you do the more you get points

[leaden bone]

im not sure what the purpose of trucks are when they are around the same tier as trains. Trucks are slower, use fuel and prone to have issues. Trains are faster, not buggy and use no fuel. I see no reason to ever use a truck?

[maiden jacinth]

find a quartz node and sink it

[ionic forge]

theres quartz?

[meager knoll]

satisfactory

[leaden bone]

yes

[leaden bone]

if you started in the grassy plains, if you go more to the east theres a large purple forest. Quartz node in the middle of the lake

[fiery gust]

Multiple of them around the lake two

If memory serves theres at least 3 there

[leaden bone]

i think the one in the lake is a normal node and its the easiest to spot. But theres like a pure one at higher elevation near it. Idk about the third one

[fiery gust]

Isn't that the one next to a small cliff guarded by a spitter?

[leaden bone]

i believe so

i think it was gaurded by a big spider actually

i dont really remember

[ionic forge]

I found sulfur

[meager knoll]

satisfactory

[fiery gust]

I think what you're remembering may be the way down into the lake, that one has both spider dens (gas things) and a big one on the road

Also, mandatory quartz rebar awesome, shotgun rebar good

Two shots basic enemies, and overall good as I work towards getting guns

[leaden bone]

yeah quartz rebar is op

i remember in my last playthrough i stuck with it really late game, found it better than the rifle

just up close and personal and it melts them

[latent prawn]

never really found shatter rebar that great, honestly

the explosive rebar is often my ammo of choice, but between regular rebar early and the ex-rebar late, i don't really find the other two (stun & shatter) very good b/c you have to be near your target

[clever summit]

anyone find a fix for game not loading?

[ionic forge]

imma unplug the sink until i get coal probably

[maiden jacinth]

and honestly if you want some of the stuff
sink some biomass rods

[meager knoll]

satisfactory

[ionic forge]

120 items per minute is so slow

[maiden jacinth]

it can def feel like that

[hearty hollow]

launch urself in the air with a hypertube

youll find some trust

[maiden jacinth]

okay but like actually
diluted fuel is so funny
the packaged version at least
I have it set to package water > fuel > unpackage fuel

so the containers are just in a loop

[mortal pond]

I see

skill issue

[ionic forge]

yeah, i liked 60i/s, and 240i/s is so good

[maiden jacinth]

my real problem is that mk2 belts just feel so expensive at that phase

[ionic forge]

dude

i can make 5 per minute

i dont think i have anything that uses both copper and iron, so i might make 2 different complexes for them

[maiden jacinth]

mk3 belts are so much easier to make sooo

get to them

[ionic forge]

I have to make 50 rotors first

[maiden jacinth]

and mk4 belts are kinda more expensive but you just have better automation capabilities so its fine

[ionic forge]

i think, i dont have phase 3 yet

[meager knoll]

i like the blue slug

[ionic forge]

Speaking of, i got a golden slug, idk what to do with it

[prisma forge]

are water towers still viable

[ionic forge]

yeha its like a gold power slug

or yellow power slug mb

[maiden jacinth]

power cells

if you wanna be optimal wait till you have sloops
but lizard doggos can find slugs

[ionic forge]

i found one on a rock

[prisma forge]

?

[ionic forge]

so i shoce it into the MAM or what do i do with it

[ionic forge]

depends how you use them, you can add a pump on the way up and just turn it 180 for infinite throughput

[sudden flint]

the new photo mode is so much fun oh my gosh

[prisma forge]

I'll need to go quite the way up and feed a bunch of refineries

[ionic forge]

nr

if each wall is 10M tall, i think like 40-50 M will do

[maiden jacinth]

mam it

[ionic forge]

I cant, i dont have the research box 😭

[leaden ether]

Mostly you just save them to make power cores later on, though yeah at first through them as needed into the MAM, you want to pretty much research everything as as quickly as you can get the materials for it

[timber dagger]

Is there a good hotkey to run parallel lines?

[green fiber]

parallel lines of what

[timber dagger]

Conveyers

mb shouldve specified

[green fiber]

no. theres only straight mode

press R to change build mode

[timber dagger]

Damn. Is there a way to force them to make right angle?

[green fiber]

that is what straight mode does

[timber dagger]

Ya

I just saw. Tysm <3

[ionic forge]

holy shit, thank you thats really helpful actually

[carmine raven]

anyone know if there's a way to get SAM besides the nodes? like are there deposits of it like all the other resources have? I have never found any

[green fiber]

there are some smaller depots of it scattered around...
or at least there were

[elder apex]

doggos can bring you sam as well, but that of course is not a reliable source

[carmine raven]

I'm doing a challenge run to see how far I can get without using any regular nodes, I've explored about 1/3 of the map pretty thorougly so far and found nothing, and none of the nodes even have the mineable top part

if anyone has seen them, a hint where?

[dense violet]

do you mean just the random outcroppings?

[onyx fern]

New bug? I dropped tickets from the Awesome Sink on the ground and completely lost them. I had 27, and now I don't.

[carmine raven]

yeah

[dense violet]

yeah there's very few of those that output very low amounts of ore.

some are statically spawned, others random

most of the tiny outcrops are scattered in small nooks

and it'll be impossible to get things like oil products or gas

[carmine raven]

yeah, there are a significant amount of plastics etc at crash sites, we'll see how far that gets me; but haven't found any SAM which has been annoying

[elder apex]

don't forget that you can buy things from the awesome shop once you have them unlocked

[dense violet]

I've honestly not seen sam outcrops since 1.0.

you might want to attach a final goal to your challenge

[carmine raven]

dang'

[dense violet]

They might still exist? But I'm surprised with their flashy new glowing colour that they didn't make more of a show

[reef forge]

ahhhh dont you love getting a jetpack hog before you've completed a single milestone

[dense violet]

yes, early jet pack

[ionic forge]

hmm

one floor for logistics, another for machines

[fast tendon]

hm, seems the train sometimes blows a whistle instead of a horn now

You might also hear some silly voice lines while using elevators

[lunar scaffold]

anyone else game just acting like a toaster rn?

[fast tendon]

Can't say I've had any issues aside from more frequent crashes

[lunar scaffold]

I was playing this all day and I log back on and everythings locked to like 10 fps

[ionic forge]

is there any way for me to use a ladder and stiff put a platform down over it

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

From 15 to 42 motors per minute!
Before, during and after me re-building my motor factory! (with an organized logistics floor believe it or not).
All I have to do now is decorate.

[boreal musk]

i forgot to connect my sink with power and now all my alu production are stopped

[elder apex]

so because you forgot to power your sink your aluminum production is now sunk?

i guess that makes sense in an ADA sort of way

[gritty sleet]

@reef basin I noticed Satisfactory Tools is still 1.0 - if you're planning on updating it to 1.1 (I'm honestly not sure if any recipes have changed), will my existing saved production lines be migrated over?

[ionic forge]

when do i get better power

[hollow vector]

the first phase

gives you coal
which is automated

[ionic forge]

my biofuel gens keep going out while i have 4 of them going

[grim epoch]

Anybody ever get stuck in a vehicle? I hit the key to exit and I just don't.

[hollow vector]

wait i mean phase 2

[maiden jacinth]

doggos is the only way

[maiden jacinth]

put a splitter and then a line of em

[ionic forge]

i have that

[maiden jacinth]

I had like 10 biofuel gens running at the start

they only consume biomass when youre using the energyt

and then at the bottom of the splitter chain I have a constructor making solid biofuel

or well had

[gritty sleet]

Is anyone else getting that "welcome to 1.0" message every time they start the game now?

[maiden jacinth]

and I like to manually craft the normal biomass
because it has an insane manual craft multiplier

[ionic forge]

i have 5

[maiden jacinth]

make a ton of biomass
put it in a crate feeding into a constructer making biofuel

[ionic forge]

i craft biomass then have an assembler crafting bio fuel

[maiden jacinth]

your gens wont go out that way

also use the mk2 belts

for the central feed line and the constructor

[proper kraken]

Does anyone use cartograph mod? Seems like it doesn't like 1.1 update

[ivory condor]

Well I have quite a few issues with 1.1 even without mods so, not surprised

For example it just crashed again at the games main menu with a fatal error, this is very stable build as it turns out

[proper kraken]

Yeah I haven't had alot of issues even since 1.0 released only issue I've had was a mod that didn't like 1.1 and so I started new playthrough since I don't want my old one to get corrupted...sooo yeah we shall see...starting over is a pain but it is what it is lol

[ionic kite]

Quick question

[late warren]

anyone else have a problem with 1.1 where when you alt tab, the game switches to a different monitor?

[ivory condor]

Good luck.

[ionic kite]

Can you stop sign backgrounds from moving? I'm trying to use backgrounds but I don't want them moving

[mortal ginkgo]

doesnt happen to me but I play windowed

[mortal ginkgo]

No. might be hardcoded as small signs dont have them moving

[ionic kite]

Dang. Thanks anyway

[ionic kite]

Nah, still moves on them

[mortal ginkgo]

i remember 0.5 sign dont have them moving but alas might be wrong

[ionic kite]

Man, 0.5 was so long ago... 😅

[mortal ginkgo]

no I mean 0.5m signs

[ionic kite]

OH right

[ivory condor]

Reminds I have more sign testing to do

[ionic kite]

Guess I'll have to find a workaround with some unicode characters

[ivory condor]

Maybe, unfortunately the background image styles have limited customization

[ionic forge]

i am now making 2 smart plating per minute

wait, i can fund 4 think

[ionic kite]

Closest workaround I've found so far was this with unicode. It's a bit ugly but it kind of works?

◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤
◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢
◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤
◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢
◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤

For the display sign. Need to find some partial space characters because I swear each line is a pixel off

[ionic forge]

i hate that there's no inserters and just belts, makes it so much harder

[grizzled flax]

are there conveyer splitters by material?

[south inlet]

I hate inserters, makes it so much harder

[ionic forge]

its a routing issue

[dense violet]

you can use smart splitters

[ionic forge]

itll take me 25 minutes to launch phase 2

[grizzled flax]

what upgrade do i need for those

[dense violet]

in the MAM

[ionic kite]

Okay, found a couple of unicode characters that... kind of work? Still need to finangle it

[grizzled flax]

ok thanks

[dense violet]

but you'll need to attach a sink at the end of the belt, otherwise it'll clog

[grizzled flax]

sink?

[dense violet]

awesome sink

[leaden turret]

merger + storage bin

[leaden turret]

there's a mod that allows you to put arbitary images / web pages in as sign backgrounds

[ionic kite]

Cheers, but I just figured out how to do it with unicode 😄

Here's the text - it's made of corner triangles and hair spaces (U+200A). Works perfectly for the display sign

◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤   
◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢    
◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤   
◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢  
◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢◤

[hollow vector]

saving this

[ionic forge]

just got a message telling me to take a break, is there a different one for playing over 4 hours

[frail sleet]

yeah it goes on for a while 😄

6, 8, 10, 12..

[ionic forge]

took me like 7 ohurs, but i finished phase 1

thats enough for today

[foggy lynx]

yo is someone able to possible help me out with an ingame issue?

im geniunely confused

is anyone good with fluids?

[ionic kite]

I'm alright with them. What's up?

[foggy lynx]

working on a coal plant and i have 600 more water than i need but many of my machines are not recieving enough water and turning off

[ionic kite]

What's your pipe layout like? You're not trying to put more fluid through than the pipes can handle?

Alternatively, try putting a fluid buffer at the end of the line. That may help with sloshing

[foggy lynx]

nah but i am splitting pipes a bunch because i was trying to fix the issue and i think ive just made it worse

[foggy lynx]

yeah i did that, didnt help

[ionic kite]

Hm. Can you send a screenshot? Hard to diagnose without knowing what it looks like

[foggy lynx]

would you be comfortable with me screensharing? like its a fairly large coal plant, would be hard to send screenshots of everything

theres no VC in here is there?

[ionic kite]

I don't think so. Just go with screenshots for now. Just a couple should be fine

[foggy lynx]

bro i geniunely dont know how i would screenshot - everythings managed under the coal ganerators and its hella chaotic

[ionic kite]

At least try

[foggy lynx]

oh i cant even post them in here

[ionic kite]

#screenshots

[foggy lynx]

yeah just saw that

[ionic kite]

I'm assuming you have a manifold connecting all the coal generators and have multiple water hookups feeding into it?

[median shell]

#1038092680493801533 thread would be a good place

[foggy lynx]

wdym by manifold?

[ionic kite]

@foggy lynx you're not exceeding the head lift capacity of the water generators are you?
If it's going up >10m (or even close to 10m) you'll need to add a pump.

From memory the pipe floor holes are problematic too, so if I were you I'd avoid using them and simply clip the pipes up through the foundations.
You can always nudge one after the fact so it looks nicer, just without the pipes actually being connected to it.

[ionic kite]

Manifold as in section with multiple inputs and outputs handling throughput

Pipes aren't directional like conveyors, so sloshing, priority (due to gravity), etc. can be an issue

[foggy lynx]

yeah ive placed valves to ensure they dont slosh back into pipes they shouldnt be, but it doesnt seem to help a whole bunch

[gritty sleet]

Where can I find vertical splitters and mergers? I didn't see them in the AWESOME shop or the MAM, but maybe I missed them?

[ionic kite]

The issue with pipe floor holes IIRC is that they count as the "end" of a segment, and that can cut off the head lift at that point.
Terrible description by me but that's the gist of it.

Like I said, try removing the floor holes and running the pipes directly through the foundations

[ionic kite]

You place a conveyor lift and place a splitter or merger along the vertical part

[median shell]

Just snap normal mergers/splitters to the lift

[foggy lynx]

this has been a thing for ages tho? why tf havent they fixed this?

[gritty sleet]

Oh, it's just a snapping thing?

[ionic kite]

Because fluid dynamics are hard enough as is 😂

[gritty sleet]

I was hoping I could just stick them in the top of an already-placed splitter/merger

[ionic kite]

Source; took a 400-level paper at university on CFD

[median shell]

Floor holes were patched like 4-5 patches ago

[foggy lynx]

yeah but it seems like a bug no?

[ionic kite]

Were they? I mustn't have been paying attention then

[foggy lynx]

like its update 1.1, and i hear everyone complain about it surely its a thing theyd have patched by now

[median shell]

In the patch notes, yes. Actually patched? Maybe xd

[boreal musk]

floor hole doesnt reset headlift, my power plant is built vertically and they were fine

[foggy lynx]

then i got no fucken clue what my issue is, because i have more than enough water

[median shell]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots and some specifics of your setup

[foggy lynx]

the only pipes that are full are the ones that havent been split off

[ionic kite]

If all felse fails Weldo, try simplifying the number of inputs and outputs on each line. Rather than running all your generators off a single manifold, use more than one.

e.g. at the moment it looks like you have >300/min worth of water total in your manifold despite it only using Mk1 pipes. Even with those multiple inputs and outputs along it, it might cause issues.

What I'm suggesting is split it up so you have, say, 2.5 water extractors doing 300 into a single pipe and using that to feed however many generators use that much water

And then repeat that manifold separately for the next set

I might be misinterpreting your screenshots, but that's the gist the first few gave me

[foggy lynx]

well what i did was fed a 300 pipe into 3 machines that needed 90 water per minute, i dont understand how the math there didnt work

i have 11 pipes or something now, originally had 9

[ionic kite]

Did you connect that pipe to the next set of machines at all?

[foggy lynx]

or no, i had 16 pipes

[foggy lynx]

i did, because theres still 30 water left over

[ionic kite]

That might be where the problem is - just my guess

Nothing wrong with a little extra water in pipes for the generators

[quick barn]

On controller, is there a way to have the zipline "stick" to the lines without using the trigger? Feel like I could on PC.

[ionic kite]

Try separating so you have one pipe for each block of machines without connecting the blocks together

[foggy lynx]

the plant is set up a weird way tho that im not too sure its gonna work very well, but i can definitely try

ive got 27 on each side

totalling 54

i feel like that leaves solo generators that ill have to connect to ones down the line because of the odd number...unless my math is wrong

[median shell]

Can I ask why 54? 810 coal/min is an odd amount considering node capacities

[foggy lynx]

im running 270 belts and the generators are overclocked to 200%

[frail sleet]

It also happens with just the end of pipes

2 pipes which look the same, but have a different start/end point between them will actually behave differently

[ionic kite]

Might be a dumb question by me, but did you remember to account for increased water consumption?

[flat patio]

I got peckish and ate some of the coal... sorry...

[foggy lynx]

haha yeah i did, i actually calcuated the water requirements first

[median shell]

How'd it taste?

[flat patio]

surprisingly not coal, more candy like

almost like black licorice

[last jungle]

should i make hypertubes to go between my oil plant and my base (which are quite far)

[dense violet]

that's because valves don't stop back flow very well

[maiden jacinth]

do yall overclock everything

[median shell]

Gotcha, would really help to help your fluid issues if we had some screenshots :)

[foggy lynx]

i usually make canons

[last jungle]

what

[flat patio]

you see canonically the trash button in your inventory is actually just the pioneer eating the item

[foggy lynx]

i posted them in the screenshot chat

[median shell]

Only sources usually. I prefer underclocking producers

[last jungle]

what if i eat nobelisks

[last jungle]

by trashing them

[maiden jacinth]

I just have a lot of power cells now ngl

[dense violet]

make a #1038092680493801533 or try to trouble shoot in #math-and-meta
you can't have images in this channel and tons of people are chatting

[foggy lynx]

ADA would probably get a giggle out of it

[maiden jacinth]

been exploring looking at hard drives

and now I have 300 power cells

[last jungle]

frfr

[foggy lynx]

i didnt post it in here, i posted them in the screenshots chat

[median shell]

I see. Suggest using #1038092680493801533 in future so convos ad images are all in the same thread

[last jungle]

"oh your dumb ass just ate an explosive you have now unlocked an achievement no other pioneer has done"

[maiden jacinth]

phase 3 and I have 300 power cells

[dense violet]

yes but trouble shooting in here is hard because

1. tons of people are chatting
2. yo ucan't directly look at images , you have to keep swaping around

[maiden jacinth]

idk if ada is upset or proud

[foggy lynx]

im in the middle of dismantling the entire fucking pipeline and belt management under the generators anyways, and ill redo it tomorrow and see if not connecting them helps

[last jungle]

wth is a power cell

[maiden jacinth]

power shards I mean

[median shell]

Power generators are also popular overclocks as it's basically only a benefit

[maiden jacinth]

the overclocky things

[willow pond]

do you have to start completely over to start unlocking steam achievements, and does activating any of the cheats disable achievements?

[last jungle]

oh the things that look like ficsit-styled nobelisks

[median shell]

Advanced game settings is the only thing that disabled achievements iirc

[last jungle]

like fr they so nobelisk shaped

[maiden jacinth]

i basically slooped every single slug in this save so far

[willow pond]

good to know, thanks 🙂

[grizzled flax]

what are the key holes for in machines?

[last jungle]

u will unlock them (if u have mam then u can find out) they will be very handy later

[dense violet]

no and yes

[last jungle]

how do i do the gray overlay that u can click to remove thing

[grizzled flax]

yea but what are they for

[dense violet]

sometimes it means an upgrade will uncover it. Sometimes it's just stuff

[last jungle]

do i spoil it

[grizzled flax]

yes

[last jungle]

if u want

it can basically improve ur machines output/min

the big locked menu will increase the crafting speed at the cost of a "power slug" and also costs more power

[median shell]

Or decrease it :)

[grizzled flax]

thyanks

[last jungle]

and the small one can straight up double output without increasing input

both will increase power usage

[foggy lynx]

yo question so i know for when i try and fix this, how high is the default headlift without a pump?

[last jungle]

depends on machine but i think its 10m for most machines

like refineries and stuff

[foggy lynx]

ok so piping water thru a 4 metre floor isnt gonna cook the headlift

[last jungle]

i think

my dad has this problem too where if theres no pump some pipes just dont work properly

neither of us know why

[foggy lynx]

i have that with headlift sometimes, even if its below 10m

[last jungle]

yea

[maiden jacinth]

I found something weirdly effective to sink midgame

packaged water

[last jungle]

wait that might be effective lowkey

[dense violet]

you're also using buffers in your system, that can easily break flow and headlift

[maiden jacinth]

what might be

[last jungle]

the packaged water sinking

[foggy lynx]

i disconnected them ages ago to try and fix the issue, but ive had that type of issue for ages, without using buffers

[maiden jacinth]

oh yea
and ive got the steel container alt

[last jungle]

what

[maiden jacinth]

so ive got 360/min of packaged water being sinked

[last jungle]

should i use basic fuel or liquid biofuel for my jetpack?

[maiden jacinth]

liquid biofuel

honestly kinda lasts forever since you dont need biofuel for power anymore

[dense violet]

sure just pointing out a visible and possible issue 🙂

[maiden jacinth]

it has a much higher burn time and max height then normal fuel

[foggy lynx]

yeah sorry, didnt mean to sound rude

[last jungle]

am i supposed to use depots for the canisters since i can either bring biofuel to my oil plant and package there or i could bring canisters and package at base

[maiden jacinth]

I just used an alt recepie because my oil is kinda far

[last jungle]

same

i dont have a container alt recipe

[maiden jacinth]

just make a ton of plastic and bring that back to make containers

[last jungle]

ok

[maiden jacinth]

the fuel lasts quite a while

[last jungle]

ill make like 200 or smth

[maiden jacinth]

I found the one that lets you use steel for containers
and its probably not the best recepie effeciency wise

but its so easy to setup at my main base

[last jungle]

but it doesnt need plastic

thats so good if ur oil is far

[fast rock]

how many foundation blocks do i need to put the space elevator

[foggy lynx]

like a billion

[last jungle]

one technically

[leaden turret]

9x7, I think

[grizzled flax]

1.5

[maiden jacinth]

yea
theres also a recepie that letsyou make them with iron plates and copper sheets

[last jungle]

bro

[maiden jacinth]

but thats like
2 processed ingredients
vs steel ingots

[last jungle]

im getting hard drives asap

would you rather iron beam or steel plate

[maiden jacinth]

did you just scan one ?

[last jungle]

no

thats just a joke

[maiden jacinth]

but yea, some alt recepies are insane

like solid steel

[grizzled flax]

are conveyers mk2 really that better than mk2

[last jungle]

my random lizard doggo just brought me 26 crystal oscillators

i dont have them unlocked yet

[maiden jacinth]

smelt the iron into ingots to give yourself 30% extra free steel

[maiden jacinth]

they can bring you anything

even nuclear waste

[last jungle]

ye my dad got a purple power slug

[grizzled flax]

how do i get the lizard slave

[last jungle]

you what

place 3 nobelisks then stand on them

while holding the nobelisk detonator right click

[grizzled flax]

i have yet to complete stage 1 of the elevator what does this mean

[last jungle]

oh wait

u will find out

[foggy lynx]

this game is so CPU intensive 😭

everytime i delete a large chunk of belts it stutters coz its moving all the items to my inventory 😅

[last jungle]

rifle or rebar gun

personally id take rifle

[maiden jacinth]

drop a paleberry in front of one and back away slowly

[foggy lynx]

rifle but not turbo rifle, turbo rifle is obnoxious, the homing rifle ammo is the best

[last jungle]

@grizzled flax are u pressure conversion cubes alt

[grizzled flax]

no

[last jungle]

sus

[foggy lynx]

pressure conversion cube was being a dick earlier so i doubt this is their alt, theyre being nice

[grizzled flax]

i need base building, obstacle clearing, jump pads, sink program

should i get it before phase 1 of elevator?

[last jungle]

base building yes

[foggy lynx]

9 times outta 10 you should unlock everything before upgrading the space elevator

[last jungle]

if thats the one with foundations yes

[grizzled flax]

whats so good about foundations

[foggy lynx]

you can build mega factories

[last jungle]

it aligns stuff to a grid

[foggy lynx]

its the literal foundation of your base

[last jungle]

thats very nice

[foggy lynx]

and this yeah

[grizzled flax]

so i can maximize air pollution?

[foggy lynx]

correct

[maiden jacinth]

pollution doesnt exist here

[foggy lynx]

and save humanity

[maiden jacinth]

except nuclear

[last jungle]

only radiation ig

[maiden jacinth]

which I still think is anti nuclear energy propaganda

[last jungle]

bro what

[grizzled flax]

i'm on it

[foggy lynx]

bro im almost fucking 80 hours in and i havent even built my big coal plant yet...this shits got me in a chokehold

[last jungle]

also did anybody notice that the unpackaged liquid icons are all parts of pipes

like those visual parts of pipes

[grizzled flax]

when can i start mass producing nuclear waste

[maiden jacinth]

yea its kinda like crack

[maiden jacinth]

later
rn focus on getting a good biofuel grid

and then youll get to coal soon enough

[foggy lynx]

nah i mean that this fucken coal plant wont work

[grizzled flax]

how do i do that

[foggy lynx]

gonna put my head thru a wall

[last jungle]

this is the only time i want more heavy oil residue lol

[grizzled flax]

i have a crap ton of bio fuel already

[last jungle]

also i found out stun rebar works really well against hatchers

[maiden jacinth]

container with biomass > constructer making biofuel > splitter into 2 biofuel generators and another splitter

and repeat a couple times

[grizzled flax]

biomass?

[maiden jacinth]

so you can just toss the biomass into the container and itll distribute it to multiple biofuel generators

[grizzled flax]

oh the plants

for far in do i get splitters

[fathom shuttle]

Damn i thought I was bad

[finite sandal]

hay guys is it just me or does the game suffer from significant frame drop when looking around in large saves for anyone else?

[maiden jacinth]

logistics
its right next to base building

[grizzled flax]

oh wait i have them

[foggy lynx]

biomass is not automated btw @grizzled flax you gotta collect the stuff manually and turn it into biofuel

[grizzled flax]

i'm stupid

[maiden jacinth]

use walls

[foggy lynx]

walls dont help all of the time

[finite sandal]

hahahah not possible

[foggy lynx]

the games very CPU heavy

[fathom shuttle]

@foggy lynx what’s your plan for your coal plant btw

[maiden jacinth]

walls cull the stuff behind them

if you dont have em youre rendering all the stuff on belts every time you look at teh spaghetti

[last jungle]

what does culling mean

[foggy lynx]

uh, i have 54 generators, like 18 pipes of 300 water and something like 1600 coal

[finite sandal]

i have 9800x3d and 4090 and fps drops to 22fps when looking around. had 140 fps prior to 1.1

[maiden jacinth]

okay then yea that is weird

[foggy lynx]

it only drops the poly count, it doesnt despawn them entirely

[grizzled flax]

thats weird

[fathom shuttle]

Nvidia drivers

[maiden jacinth]

very weird
I think that frame gen has some issues rn

turn that off
or update drivers ig

[grizzled flax]

cuz im using 7800x3d and 7800xt i get 150+

[foggy lynx]

im on a 4090 and a 7800X3D, game definirely has issues but its not flawless, UE5 is a piece of shit but also the games VERY CPU heavy

[fathom shuttle]

18 pipes of water is enough for 120 coal power plants wtf are you doing

[foggy lynx]

theyre overclocked to 200%

[maiden jacinth]

I think im going to start a base at the ocean, I have so many pure alts now

[foggy lynx]

i originally had 16 pipes but i was having heaps of issues so i added 2 more for good measure....it did nothing

[finite sandal]

i just turned of frame gen and i helped a little but still onle getting 35 fps now when looking around quickly

[foggy lynx]

whats your render res?

[finite sandal]

4k

[foggy lynx]

are you running DLSS?

[fathom shuttle]

But I meant why don’t you go to oil production, power generation is way better that way

[foggy lynx]

im building the coal so i can build the oil power 💀 😭

[finite sandal]

fsr? i was but just turned it off seems to feel better

[maiden jacinth]

you dont need a massive coal plant for that

I used 8 coal gens

[finite sandal]

its still giving me cancer but i think its playable enought

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t need to set it up this way tho

[foggy lynx]

my power infrustructure isnt very good rn...and im planning on making a turbo fuel power plant

[foggy lynx]

definitely use DLSS, looks better, performs similarly to FSR

[maiden jacinth]

if youre planning on making a turbo fuel plant youll literally delete the coal plant

[foggy lynx]

nah ill keep it up coz it looks cool

[maiden jacinth]

you need the coal for turbofuel

[finite sandal]

i cant im on a 7900xtx sorry not a 4090

[fathom shuttle]

I have 18 coal power plants and it’s way overkill for my factory

[foggy lynx]

oh i thought you said 4090

wait you said 4090

[finite sandal]

i did thats my bad i will try some of the other frame gen though

[foggy lynx]

wait i dont think the game supports FSR frame gen

[fathom shuttle]

Just lower your settings

[foggy lynx]

bro nah

[finite sandal]

not doing that

[fathom shuttle]

Why

[finite sandal]

should need to on this rig

[foggy lynx]

thats never the solution for someone on a high end system, we dont settle for that

[finite sandal]

correcct

[foggy lynx]

its either GI or not playing it coz its stinky otherwise

[finite sandal]

i didnt spend 5k on a pc to lower my setting when the devs have changed something about the game

[ivory condor]

well

[leaden turret]

referring to yesterday's brain snafu of misreading global illumination as gastro intestinal

[fathom shuttle]

So you would rather have a blurry ghosting mess of a game, than a stable high refresh somewhat clear (still uses TAA) picture quality

[foggy lynx]

how the fuck does anyone maybe a turbo fuel factory then? if you need the coal to make it and the oil but cant use the coal for power and cant use the oil for power because you need it for turbo fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Even with dlss 3.8, the ghosting is insane on my system

[finite sandal]

i had native 140 fps in 1.0

[foggy lynx]

3.8?

[finite sandal]

all setting high in 4k

[maiden jacinth]

you only need a small coal plant

[fathom shuttle]

You can’t see mk3 belts clearly, and holograms are ghosting a lot

[foggy lynx]

use DLSS 4...?

[last jungle]

i noticed valves are actually kinda useful

[maiden jacinth]

then make one turbofuel gen
then another one

[last jungle]

i never used them before

[fathom shuttle]

Can’t unfortunately

[foggy lynx]

not with the size im planning on making the turbo fuel factory

[foggy lynx]

why not? use DLSS swapper

[fathom shuttle]

Yea Ive seen someone use them as an overflow system

[foggy lynx]

i have noticed 1.1 is a little more unstable

[maiden jacinth]

make a normal fuel plant first then
thats kinda small

[fathom shuttle]

Then it’s an issue with drivers or you’re running out of ram
You need to figure out what’s wrong with your game

[last jungle]

the first time im using one here i use as a toggleable stop

so that i dont have to replace the pipe and stuff

[maiden jacinth]

fuel gens make 3x the power of a coal gen

[ivory condor]

I'm suspecting the game is going to remain unstable unfortunately until the engine upgrade

[finite sandal]

i have a huge save its 30mb with 600k objects all over the world and the peformance drop in 1.1 is making me cry

[foggy lynx]

i guess i gotta see how much power ill actually need to make the size i want

[ivory condor]

they probably realized it isnt worth putting more time into a engine they'll be upgrading at some point anyways

[fathom shuttle]

I play on GeForce now lmao

[maiden jacinth]

rn im charging some batteries just in case something goes wrong when I start going for turbofuel

[fathom shuttle]

Just get to 5-8GW

[foggy lynx]

late game stuff is never going to run well, even on a 7900XTX or a 4090, it definitely shits itself hardcore

[fathom shuttle]

You need to focus on progression

[finite sandal]

nah like i said before i was getting native 140 fps in 4k legit 3 days ago

[ivory condor]

my guess is they pushed out what fixes they could reasonable do in the current engine and are holding out on anything else until after the engine upgrade, if i was to guess on this anyway

[finite sandal]

in 1.0

[foggy lynx]

im chill just going slow, doesnt bother me if it takes me 1000 hours to beat the game, but i dont wanna fuck with nuclear until WAYYY later so i want like 20K KW from the turbo fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Did the devs say they’re doing an engine upgrading?

[finite sandal]

im gonna have to see if i can play a backup version of the game i have

[foggy lynx]

they already ported it to UE5 ages ago tho

that was the engine upgrade

[foggy lynx]

oh damn 😭

[finite sandal]

correct i dotn think they will be doing to much to it anytime soon

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I need to get a pc or wait for a console port
But the game is still very playable so it’s not much of a hassle, lots of game are available so I’ll probably wait until a couple of years before I get a pc

[foggy lynx]

The console port is coming soon ish

It was supposed to come in 1.0 I think but it got delayed. Correct me if I’m wrong

[fathom shuttle]

I hope the controls aren’t too bad tho

[foggy lynx]

They just added controller support so it should be okay

I actually think the games snapping systems gonna be great on controller

It’s just gonna be more tedious

[finite sandal]

the end game will be severly limited on console give then processors dont have alot of power compaired to a pc

[ivory condor]

Even within UE5 there is 5.1, 5.2, etc and those are engine upgrades also, but not as major as going from UE4 to UE5 to be true

they have infact done a few minor engine upgrades even within UE5 already

[foggy lynx]

They’re still porting it to console we’ll just have to see when that is

[foggy lynx]

It’s still the same game engine tho. It’s more engine updates as opposed to engine upgrades

[ivory condor]

Suppose so, still it does fundementally change how the engine works, offering fixes, optimizations, etc

Probably why they rushed 1.1 out of ex, if I was to guess anyways

[last jungle]

whats the difference between jetpack and hoverpack

[foggy lynx]

Not enough for it to make much of a difference. Most of the time they focus on the RT side of optimisation. Improving the pipeline for it. This game has GI. But it doesn’t have full RT

[foggy lynx]

One uses fuel and the other connects to your power grid and you hover

[last jungle]

bluetooth jetpack

[foggy lynx]

It keeps you in the air. The jet back does not

[ivory condor]

Imo this game shouldnt support RT, its intensive enough already even with the current features

[foggy lynx]

Yeah just not as powerful in terms of boost

[fathom shuttle]

The ps5 cpu matches recommended spec, or slightly underhsoots, gpu is above. Obviously you can’t spam 1 million machines like you can with a high end cpu on pc, but it will be a great experience

[ivory condor]

RT is always a net negative is performance to any game and this game doesn't need more performance hits, if anything they need to focus on optimizing it instead of features that tax the game engine more

[foggy lynx]

I mean it’s just a setting. Just turn it off if you don’t want it

[foggy lynx]

Bro this game is insanely optimised you have no idea

[ivory condor]

we have that already though, its lumen, i would prefer they leave it at that

[fathom shuttle]

The game is well optimized for a UE5 game

[ivory condor]

want to tax your system, go at it and turn that on

[ivory condor]

It was in 1.0 for sure, not now so much, but i have theories of why thats the case

aka what is likely the next planned engine upgrade, likely later this year, assuming my theories hold true anyways

[foggy lynx]

The game is still VERY optimised

It’s one of the most optimised UE5 games out there

[finite sandal]

i agree im not saying it wiull suck but rather it just wont be that same experince as a high spec pc

[opaque flower]

i really hope this game comes to the switch 2

[grizzled flax]

is coial better than bio fueel?

[foggy lynx]

💀

[foggy lynx]

yes, coal is "step 2" of power essentially

and then after coal its fuel power, and then after that uh..i think its nuclear?

i may be cooked

[ivory condor]

Again, it was in 1.0, not so much anymore, but my theory likely explains why thats the case

[foggy lynx]

nah dude the game is still VERY optimised even in 1.1

[ivory condor]

Aka it doesn't make sense to put in the dev time in a engine they'll be upgrading again later

[foggy lynx]

its just a bit less

[ivory condor]

Again not compared to 1.0, I have saves that are documented performance regression compared to 1.0 and I should know having tested the saves on both 1.0 and 1.1

Aka massive ingame stutters where I lose 100+ frames is more than a bit less....

[foggy lynx]

idk man game runs very similarly for me

[green fiber]

It depends on whats in the save i guess

[foggy lynx]

but with a game such as this, its fairly easy to just accept when it runs like shit sometimes, the devs are very good, theyll fix it and like...the game is massive scale, no chance youre getting good performance in the endgame, not if you build mega factories

its like expecting civilisation to run well

[green fiber]

Every update had up and down trends in performance

I think 1.0 initially was worse than Update 8?

[foggy lynx]

thats the case for almost every games every update tho

[green fiber]

Honestly, i dont even remember where they talked about the upcoming engine upgrade

[ivory condor]

Actually I do, especially in 1.0 because it has better overall optimization

[foggy lynx]

then your mega factories are not very mega

[ivory condor]

My mega factory saves actually run very will, no stutters, etc in 1.0, needless to say its a different story in 1.1 now, because of the performance regression

[ivory condor]

My saves are over 25mb, approaching 30mb, spanning over the entire map world....

[foggy lynx]

keep in mind not everyone sees the same performance regressions or improvements, hardware is never identical, i have games that run like actual dosgit and other peoples games are flawless

[fathom shuttle]

Are there any duplication glitches?

[ivory condor]

Those saves are actually so massive they cause the unreal engine to crash in older versions because it reaches past the uobject limit

[foggy lynx]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

How

[foggy lynx]

i forgot about one...i was supposed to be using it to get infinite power slugs 😭

i hope its not patched

[fathom shuttle]

Factory cart?

[foggy lynx]

yeah

[fathom shuttle]

Patched I think

[foggy lynx]

FUCK

[ivory condor]

I know. I do find it interesting that 13900 with a rtx 4080 has performance issues with this game but I guess thats fate

[maiden jacinth]

synthetic power shards exist tho

[foggy lynx]

yeah but thats stinky as shit

[fathom shuttle]

I’m still in mid game

[foggy lynx]

and SUPER late game

[maiden jacinth]

true

sloops give you double when you construct or assemble stuff

[foggy lynx]

ok i gotta go out....watching the live action how to train your dragon with the Missus

catch yall later

[fathom shuttle]

I need circuit boards to unlock that lol

[earnest ridge]

With Advanced Game Settings you could duplicate whatever you want...

[maiden jacinth]

run through crash sites until you find enough

[fathom shuttle]

True lol

[green fiber]

Tried asking Baldur about it? Theres a good chance he might be able to tell

[ivory condor]

Other people that tested those saves have also been able to reproduce my results, with the stuttering so I doubt asking one more person will shed more insight, its definitely not isolated to my hardware configuration only given other people can reproduce it also

[green fiber]

I wonder how a newer save with the same stuff in it would react / perform

[earnest ridge]

I hope it will be better, I would like to use signs eventually

[ivory condor]

Good question. Do you think scimming it into a new save would be a fair test?

[ivory condor]

Thats right you tested that save and found the same problems....

[earnest ridge]

There are dozens of us, if you count the upvotes on the QA posts...

[sterile blade]

why not... I think it might

[ivory condor]

Sorry I lost track of the qa posts....

[earnest ridge]

Should be easy right, just place ~1500 signs of various sizes, layouts, styles, and concentration in a new save, a quick job, right?

[ivory condor]

It is if I copy that with scim and place it into a new save

and make the save cursed with stuttering to

[green fiber]

I assume.

But then again, im not sure if the light actor change of foundations and walls is hardcoded per individual instance or if they can be swappes out

[earnest ridge]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/682280346b7c57319637a3b3 (Significant FPS stuttering in 1.1.0.4)
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/682e5e086b7c57319637b9f5 (Signs causing FPS stutter / drops in 1.1.0.4)

[green fiber]

Aka i dont know if old foundations and walls automatically get converted to their new "lightweight" system

Those take up no uobjects at all

[ivory condor]

Ok thanks let me save it, just so we can come back to it in 6 months and find the result haven't changed

[green fiber]

Oh right signs

They were toying around with their render distance

And made it aggressively short

[earnest ridge]

I noticed blank signs become glossy now.

Could be important, could not.

[ivory condor]

The system has migration methods for the abstracts, depending on what objects use them, that includes for the lightweight buildables

[green fiber]

Could be. Glossy materials are more performance intensive from what i noted

[ivory condor]

Though I forget of the signs are part of the abstracts or lightweight buildables of some type, considering how customizatable they are I don't think they are, but I might be wrong for some reason

Maybe they could be a partial type, if the game uses that perhaps but I don't recall seeing anything about that, might peak at the object classes for signs real quick here and see if I see any lightweight usage here hmmm

[earnest ridge]

If you could get a RGB strip that is like a beam but with narrower diameter, that could reduce the amount of signs in use, I think.

[green fiber]

they supposedly optimized signs that have the same image

[last jungle]

just made my first packaged liquid biofuel, gonna test it

[sterile blade]

Sorry guys, I need a few more weeks before I make another sign-file

[green fiber]

if you use signs as led strips, those should be pretty optimized

[ivory condor]

hmmmm idk, given the results of that one save with 3k signs I'm not sure what to expect now

[sterile blade]

Remember to carefully record the taste

[last jungle]

test not taste you unsatisfactory of a pioneer

[earnest ridge]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61b0c048831c852052364d4a (Dedicated light strips, built like beams and girders please)
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/618789a2831c85205235b616 (Please add LED strip in Lights)

[last jungle]

sorry

[solar trench]

wtf is up with looking for groups channel, i had 3 different people "looking" for players but then few hours later they just blocked me and they are gone from the group?

[sterile blade]

Taste-tests are very important. How else can you tell if the Fuel is still good or if it expired, huh?

[last jungle]

it was made like 5 min ago

[sterile blade]

Mhhh. It's at its best when it's freshly squeezed

[last jungle]

they should make it so holding the mouse keeps swinging the basher

or zapper

[leaden turret]

[astarion drinking wine from a goblet, except fuel]

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

@last jungle You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[sterile blade]

Worth making a post about ^^

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> glow stick weapons for multiplayer Pioneer clubbing to the tunes on the boombox

🦈🐟📦

[grizzled flax]

slowly making my way towards coal farming

more air pollution

[maiden jacinth]

coal is actually infinitely renewable

as is oil

just like real life

[grizzled flax]

more fumes=better

[solar trench]

is this common thing here

[leaden turret]

wouldn't know, hell is other people

[solar trench]

its just bizzare

one guy went trough effort of talking with me all day, and just blocked me outta nowhere right before we were meant to start playing???

[last jungle]

there we go i can now get the "upload to depot from inventory"

[maiden jacinth]

is turbo heavy fuel at all worth it over the normal recepie

[last jungle]

wait do i need a depot built to put items in

from my inventory

[ivory condor]

Bad news I scimmed that factory into a new save, same results

At best I have moved the stutter from one save to another, so thats cool

[sterile blade]

That's a weird message to add that reply to 😅 😆

[sterile blade]

Nope.
You are the depot

[last jungle]

i mean the inventory litterally is a "pocket dimension" or smth

according to ada

[ivory condor]

Oh god what have I done I have actually made it worse. It's now down to like 5 fps already with over 200ms frame times

I don't know what I have done but I have made a very cursed save now, with performance that is so much worse than I thought possible

[sterile blade]

Idea to make it better: add some more sign megaprints

[ivory condor]

It's a literal slide show now

whatever you do dont scim that factory into a new save, this is very cursed indeed

[shell grove]

that's an interesting visual glitch
https://imgur.com/a/6DulwNG

even more intersting, when I go over it with the dismantle tool it will temporarily correct itself and then fade back in about 1-2 seconds

[maiden jacinth]

you would think so

but its actaully a joke

shes expanding your pockets dimensions

[last jungle]

so real

and then when i use a mod to get inf inventory space do i just look like a upside down cross

[maiden jacinth]

if you wanna headcannon it the inf space mod is probably from the others not from ada

[grizzled flax]

how do i get coal gen to work

[dense violet]

same way as other machines - feed them what they need
if you need to trouble shoot I'd recommend #math-and-meta or make a post in #1038092680493801533
or just do a search in question and help as literally hundreds of people have had to use it to get their gens working

[fluid sapphire]

if i build walls around a bunch of glass and signs to hide them, does that stop the game from rendering the glass, lights, signs whatever?

[ivory condor]

@sterile blade You know looking at this it might be a consequence of them fixing the blurry images, that likely had optimization benefits and having to load in the higher quality images is likely pushing vram usage to high now. In that save I'm seeing 14.9gb vram usage, which is pretty high

It honestly could be the performance issues are a consequence of them trying to fix the blurry images with the signs, but the problem is the higher res images is taxing on the engine and vram usage, which is leading to these performance issues present in the save

In other words, having blurry images as much as some people didn't like it, honestly was needed for sign optimization, thats now gone, hence the saves now run worse

[mortal ginkgo]

I know devs dont check discord out much but I want to commend them on a good design choice; when you start working oil at first, heavy oil residue can be turned into coke that can be used in coal generators to make extra power that is good enough of its own until you can do the fuel gen milestone

I like it and appreciate it. 👍

[torpid island]

hi guys just got the game today and it seems to crash after 5 ish mins? can anyone help , im on pc

[pseudo holly]

its a graphics driver issue

if it says gpu dump on the crash report thingy

[torpid island]

ok, let me go and make it crash again and ill tell u

[pseudo holly]

downgrading my driver fixed it for me

[torpid island]

will give it a go thanks heaps @pseudo holly

[reef basin]

Afaik there weren't any relevant changes in 1.1 for recipes, so you should be good

[last jungle]

did they buff ziplines this is way faster than im used to

[fluid sapphire]

they have always been affected by sprint toggle, to me they feel the same as before

[last jungle]

oh fr?

cuz im defo not used to this im speeding now

i mean im all for it ziplines are actually really good apparently

[fathom shuttle]

1.275GW of production and 1.3GW of max consumption, big problem you might say, but not for me, thanks to the incredible inefficiency of my factory I don’t need to worry about exceeding my power budget!

[grizzled flax]

how do i get oil into the refinery? pipes dont seem to work

[last jungle]

is oil pump powered?

[fathom shuttle]

Wdym? Just connect them normally you would

[last jungle]

the oil extractor

[fathom shuttle]

You need to connect it into the orange/red port

[grizzled flax]

yea

[last jungle]

idk what issue this is but it works just like any other liquid

[fathom shuttle]

Does it not flow at all?

[last jungle]

u do a pipe and it work

[grizzled flax]

not at all

[last jungle]

add a pipeline pump

see if it fixes it

[fathom shuttle]

Maybe your refinery is too high up

[last jungle]

place a pump on the pipe and power it

[silk spade]

I haven't played the game in a while, but it seems like there is no smoke coming out of the smelter and biomass burner, or at least less smoke than before. Has this been changed intentionally? There used to be a lot of black smoke coming out before.

[grizzled flax]

do i need power from biofuel to go to refinery?

[glossy iris]

You're not channeling enough american patriotism to move the oil, try adding an eagle

[last jungle]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Probably optimization related

[last jungle]

treat refinery like any other machine

power it and input stuff

= ada happy because you produce stuff now

[last jungle]

ficsit made the machines more eco friendly

[fathom shuttle]

Do I lose all content of a container if I delete it?

[last jungle]

no

[fathom shuttle]

Where does it all go? My inventory right

[last jungle]

if u dont have enough space to take everything a crate will drop next to u (by default)

yes it goes in ur inventory

[fathom shuttle]

Alright I’ll take your word for it

I’ll lose 7k reinforces iron plate if you’re wrong

[reef basin]

If only saves existed

[fathom shuttle]

Yes so I lost 2.4k reinforced iron plates

[last jungle]

what the fuck how

where did they go

[reef basin]

Unless you drag items to trash, you can't "lose" them

[last jungle]

did a crate drop

of any kind

[fathom shuttle]

Idk, literally nothing

[last jungle]

if u had a save before try reloading it

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’m gonna do that

My game is bugged probably

[last jungle]

idk

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll just drain it first

[grizzled flax]

why is my flow rate 0

[last jungle]

idk

[fathom shuttle]

Take a screen shot of your set up

[last jungle]

does it have something to flow?

[grizzled flax]

extratcer - pipe - pump - pipe - refinery

[last jungle]

is everything powered?

[grizzled flax]

where do i post

[arctic cedar]

How does the game calculate fluids in pipes

[icy wigeon]

Hello

[grizzled flax]

yea

[last jungle]

#screenshots

[icy wigeon]

flow rate of what

wait nvm i never got that high of tier

[boreal musk]

#math-and-meta and #1038092680493801533

[last jungle]

flow rate of my pie charts

[grizzled flax]

i sent to #screenshots

[last jungle]

idk wtf this means

[boreal musk]

#screenshots is not a channel for troubleshooting

[last jungle]

oh ok

[grizzled flax]

its in math now

[last jungle]

bro kill the hatcher

[grizzled flax]

how

[last jungle]

punch it

with ur zapper

[boreal musk]

#dedicated-servers

[shell grove]

anyone be able to provide some insight? I read the fluid manual but my coal generators seem to be lacking fluid half the time...

10 x coal generator 200% OC
so that would require 900 water/m
supplying it by 3 pipes all at 300 water/m

https://imgur.com/a/eTsVFYQ

[last jungle]

ur lacking fluid (water) cuz ur pipes cant supply it fast enough

i assume

[shell grove]

the required water is 900/m, 3 pipes of 300/m so 3x 900/m

or is that just a "theoritical" supply and not what the game actually gives

[last jungle]

i dont really understand ur screenshots gimme a sec

are u making enough water?

[shell grove]

3x Mk1 250% OC, so that'd be 3x 300 aswell

[last jungle]

what

wait so u have 3 water extractors 250% oc right?

[cedar iris]

i crashed my game :)

[last jungle]

ye 3x300 water/min

[shell grove]

yup, and each one produces 300/m

[last jungle]

idk then im not good with pipes

[fluid sapphire]

It's hard to tell from your screenshots but there are really only 2 possible problems here I think, either A: there is a section or more of pipe somewhere that you're trying to push more than 300/m through, or B: headlift issue

[last jungle]

actually yea headlift issue is possible here

[shell grove]

can't be a headlift issue as I have pumps right around the corner of the screenshot.

also made 100% sure I wouldn't try to push more than 300/m through a pipe

I am so confused... so while we were talking I tried just enabling all the generators slowly one by one and now it's been running fine?

pipes aren't filling all the way up, but they're not emptying further either

[fluid sapphire]

That's how what I did my first coal plant too

[grizzled flax]

what fuel is after oil

[last jungle]

nuclear prob

[fluid sapphire]

More stable if you fill the internal buffers one by one

[silk rose]

Will there be anything in steam points shop like profile background or emojis?
last q&a post was 4y ago and wasnt answered since.

[grizzled flax]

how does nuclear work

[fluid sapphire]

Turbo, and then rocket fuel, then ionized and nuclear (neither of which you really need)

[grizzled flax]

can i just put it anywhere

[last jungle]

i have no idea i dont have it unlocked

[fluid sapphire]

If you want power the easiest option is the nitro rocket fuel alt

[boreal musk]

much more complicated recipe and it produces nuclear waste which needs to be recycled into plutonium or store it to the edge of the map, the radiation can kill you if you dont have hazmat suit

each npp produce 2500MW at normal clock speed

(and you also need a lot of water)

[reef basin]

same as everything else. You have recipes to make items, you have power gens that need fuel (and water)

[dense violet]

I would paste clearer images in #math-and-meta or make a post in #1038092680493801533

looks overly complicated

[shell grove]

I mean it's just feeding from left right and center... it might look complicated becos I have the generators inside/ontop of eachother?

anyways, that coal gen working allowed me to put the Steel factory I've been working on in use

https://imgur.com/a/s2ZTpmf

[dense violet]

almost every single other channel takes images on this server.

[fervent cedar]

can you flip the hypertube branch?

[dapper forge]

how much space between pipeline pumps? I need 48 m lift from mk1 pipeline pumps unfortunately...

[cloud panther]

mmm spaghetti berlts

what an achievement

[hard ivy]

Keep pumps at around 90% of their rated head lift

[cloud panther]

If you place the hologram on the pipe and press H to lock the hologram, it will show you the head lift along the pipe.

[hard ivy]

Best if you make sure they're all equal and as close to 90% as you can

[dapper forge]

yeah i'll check it out.

[dense violet]

place one every 20m?

[dapper forge]

I need 3 mk1 pumps for 48 m

[cloud panther]

laughs in mk2 pump

[dapper forge]

there isn't a lot of pipeline length

[median shell]

Scroll wheel while first placing it. One click and then scroll wheel = rotation

[hard ivy]

Do not put it right at the blue ring, that's 110%, that's as high as it'll ever go. It's not always reliable

[dapper forge]

I'll lay the pipes and check it out. I think I may have to re-design

[cloud panther]

Who needs pumps when you just put all your fluid buffers at the top of the world?

jk jk

Drone to fly packaged fluids to the top and then it's trickle-down economics time!

Where's the best place to put this golden nut

[restive drum]

guys how much has changed since early access v0.7.x.x? Has things improved a lot?

[hard ivy]

A lot

!wikisearch update+8

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=update+8

[restive drum]

thanks

[hard ivy]

That's not all

!wikisearch 1.0

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=1.0

[restive drum]

unreal engine 5...

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch Patch+1.1.1.0

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Patch+1.1.1.0

[restive drum]

so graphics improved drastically?

[restive drum]

oof

how's the modding community?

[boreal musk]

very and they also added global illumination setting which improves the lighting by a lot

[restive drum]

thank you, any idea regarding the modding community?

I always loved mods😅

[boreal musk]

you can try to go to their discord server

its still very active

[restive drum]

do you know the server name? I cant find it

[hard ivy]

1.1 just released so currently probably not good. A lot is broken (as usual)

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @median shell

[restive drum]

ah shi! here we go again!

[restive drum]

its taking me to #welcome

[hard ivy]

Sent you an invite

[restive drum]

thank you very much

[median shell]

Indeed it does xd . That is odd, but the link does also appear to be in that channel

[restive drum]

ohh that make sense lol

[median shell]

I mean it used to link directly. Maybe the link changed/expired 🤷

[bold heron]

Do a production goal of 4 100% Machines for everything sound ok ?

[median shell]

Why not 100 at 4%

[bold heron]

Faster to build less belts, easier to check everything.

[median shell]

[hard ivy]

Depends what item and recipe

Oh, you said everything. Then definitely not

[little holly]

at this point, why not 400 at 1%

[fervent cedar]

Thanks

[hard ivy]

Build 100 times more machines to save 77.3% power!

[glad summit]

how do i turn down the volume of the "look here" ping (alt + left click)?

[last jungle]

somehow

[median shell]

I'm doubting there's a specific option for it, but check the dropdown menus in audio settings on the right of each category

[fierce shuttle]

(I didn't know which was the best channel to ask this)

Is anyone else having a problem with the math symbols in quick search?

When I try to do a division using the numeric keypad, it gives me - instead of /

Before considering it a bug, I would like to understand if it could only depend on my PC (I don't think it's relevant, but I have an Italian keyboard layout)

[ivory condor]

566.36 has the same issues for me as the newer drivers, but it was worth a shot, even if it didn't work, aka improve stability at all, same directx crashes

[glad summit]

turning down Equipment Volume turns it down, not sure which one specifically

[hard ivy]

It's probably the keyboard layout tbh. If your layout in windows doesn't match your actual keyboard, issues are expected

[ivory condor]

Well guess I'll go back to the newer drivers, its stable, and the older drivers don't seem to offer me any benefits anymore

[median shell]

I use it a lot and it's fine on English layout, not sure what the differences are

[viscid escarp]

my game crash when i zoop

[last jungle]

dont zoop

[median shell]

oop

[fierce shuttle]

But the layout should not concern the numeric keypad, I suspect it is something related to my laptop, I have no way to verify with an external keyboard at the moment, that's why I was asking

Anyway thanks for the confirmation! If I were to report the bug I will specify that it only does it with this layout

[fierce shuttle]

Software and hardware match, but it's not the US layout, usually this is what causes problems in games 😂

[hard ivy]

Does it happen in other programs as well (excel, notepad)?

[fierce shuttle]

Nope

[heavy jay]

Hi, i would like to ask if there is some sort of roadmap or something that confirms some future updates/dlcs? For example the modding api that was initially planned for 1.0, but then was excluded from 1.0, but i have no idea if its still planned?

[vestal mica]

is there a way to change the mouse wheel sensitivity? it's hyper sensitive and changes equipment if I just look at the mouse wheel

[last jungle]

i found a niche use for stackable supports