satisfactory

[coarse geode]

i dont really like that

[broken thorn]

400 more caterium isn't that much tbh

I think I'll probably wait until I get mk5 belts so I do that

[coarse geode]

i hate pipes i try to reduce everything thats fluid

[broken thorn]

but yeah caterium circuit board seems way more viable

[robust nymph]

neither is 42 copper and 412 oil

[broken thorn]

I'll look into it

[robust nymph]

Yeah, they're great

[broken thorn]

I might break my promise of not rushing to phase 3 😭

MK5 belt seems so tempting

[robust nymph]

why wouldn't you rush

:p

[timid rune]

#screenshots message you are gonna have to deal with fluids for aluminum regardless of alts I think

[robust nymph]

yes

[timid rune]

since aluminum scrap recipes alway output water

[coarse geode]

i think ill leave input at 1560

then i gotta figure out how to use this planner thing

[trim vine]

I recommend bumping that up to 9780

[coarse geode]

im not bringing in 13 belts

[trim vine]

How about 15?

Thats all the bauxite in the world 😛

[robust nymph]

then do 9360

[coarse geode]

why

[robust nymph]

joking, start small

[trim vine]

Dont listen to me here for this one, I am projecting, as I am currently doing all the worlds aluminium

Also I figured out my 2 extra belt issue from yesterday

[robust nymph]

what issue were you having?

[trim vine]

I used my 1x6 BP for a belt highway instead of a 1x5

So when I designed my lifts going down over the waterfall in the swamp, I had 6, 6, and 1

instead of 5, 5, and 1

[robust nymph]

you going for instant scrap btw or ?

[trim vine]

Yuup, I wanted the blenders

[robust nymph]

nice nice

[trim vine]

So

After work today, a slight rerouting of belts, and I should be cooking with crisco

[robust nymph]

why are you doing a belt highway instead of trains btw? :p

[trim vine]

Ahhh, because I did trains for the coals and sulfur, and will be using trains to bring aluminium to other factories

So, I made a "Bauxite Bridge"

Which I will add arches and shit too with supports that looks cool, plus it comes out over the waterfall and looks nice-ish right now (it needs some tlc)

Plus, all the worlds bauxite literally is in a line bisecting the world, so its easy

[robust nymph]

fair enough :p

spending the majority of your world's quartz on it too or just going for the pure ingots?

[trim vine]

yeah, the railway is already big busy, adding in ~15 or so more trains sounded like more of a headache than a highway

Nah, no quartz, I ALMOST did

but, thats a bit much

[robust nymph]

yeah, that would take like, ~65% of the world's quartz

sounds a bit expensive for the 4.1k extra aluminum ingots

what are you even going to use all that aluminum for?

[zenith pecan]

Avoiding nuking quartz is what's tempting me to feed all the worlds bauxite into a sloppy alumina refinery, and the pure aluminium, I'll lose out on ingots but I doubt I could find a use for maximising it.

[trim vine]

Industry, brother

[trim vine]

That is indeed the move

[zenith pecan]

I have plans for the quartz, nuking it for a little extra in aluminium ingots will interfere with that.

[trim vine]

Plus, by converting all the worlds bauxite in ingots ahead of time, I can remove the bauxite inputs from my planners and replace them with ~9k ingots, making the construction lines 100000 times easier

[zenith pecan]

I have all the worlds sam ore waiting for me to get converters going.

[mortal ginkgo]

Listen. I really like this game. I am enjoying it for days now.

But I can't grasp the reason why some decorations are simply missing.

Like, where are the half ramps etc

[zenith pecan]

I would love half ramps, it took a couple of years to get half foundations after I made my initial request (I sorely doubt I was the first)

[mortal ginkgo]

I know right? I mean more importantly, half starcases etc missing too. Road Barriers unable to get oriented to ramps is weird too.

Like there are some limitations like this and I don't exactly get it.

Devs may not like diagonal buildings, I get it. It's their design choice. But the game supports making ramps but then devs seem like they simply stopped doing it for other stuff for no reason.

[zenith pecan]

I wouldn't say no reason, at what point do things become niche bloat?

[mortal ginkgo]

This isn't exactly a niche thing. Devs provide the half foundations. But they don't provide half foundation ramp, for ex.

[zenith pecan]

No matter how much gets added, there will always be an "I want X"

There are structures that I wish existed that effectively mate up with the half pipes my tunnels consist of.

[mortal ginkgo]

You are missing the point. This is not about requesting something that doesn't exist.

If there were no half foundations and I said "add half please", you could say "well next person gonna ask quarter stuff." and I could say "eh, fair enough."

But half foundations EXISTS, just not their equal matching of full ones do not.

If a dev provides "Road Barrier", I expect them to kindly let me do "Ramp Road Barrier" too.

[zenith pecan]

Half walls, quarter railings and such are all things I'd love.

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats my point.

Half Foundations exists but Half Walls do not.

[zenith pecan]

But the line has to be drawn somewhere.

[mortal ginkgo]

You are still missing the point, surprisingly.

[zenith pecan]

You never know we might see them down the line, they added the vertical splitters/mergers (jank atm I know) and even lifts.

[mortal ginkgo]

Draw the line at "Supporting Half Foundations" fully.

They don't need to provide "Quarter Foundations".

Because game does not have them in the first place.

But game DOES have Half Foundations but NOT their parts that Full Foundations have.

[zenith pecan]

Hell, even a huge building block DLC, I'd absolutely get it.

[leaden ether]

Heh the fact that road barriers don't follow ramps is kind of baffling especially since they have the tech for railings. Thankfully Infinite Nudge allows you to at least tilt them to match ramps, though it's a bit of a pain.

[brittle seal]

is there an ETA for 1.1?

[spice patio]

No.

[brittle seal]

😔

[spice patio]

Very likely only in fall after CSS summer vacations.

[brittle seal]

fall?!

[mortal ginkgo]

I am so close to getting some QoL mods

[leaden ether]

ALso weird that some of the half blocks have complete texture patterns (Steel anti slip) but others only have half textures (Cement).

[mortal ginkgo]

In 5 hours.

Aka: It is ready when devs say it is ready. Don't trust anyone else. However devs said in one of the last streams "1.1 is coming close."

so I hardly think it is Fall.

[brittle seal]

aight valid ig

do you know whats coming in 1.1?

like the relevant things

[mortal ginkgo]

check youtube, some youtubers go through them in detail

[leaden ether]

When I heard about Infinate Nudge, it was the one thing that got me to install the modloader. I wanted to do vanilla though the end of phase 5 at least but no vertical nudge was kind of painful.

[zenith pecan]

Yay, the first 2400 bauxite is down into the tunnels 😄

[brittle seal]

aig, is experimental risky?

[mortal ginkgo]

I am feeling terrible pain from having no vertical nudge when playing blueprints. It is truly needed (and I dont know why it was never there to begin with but hey)

[mortal ginkgo]

always risky but I also see some people playing late game stuff.

as once a wise man said, prepare yourself for unforseen consequences. Aka back up your save before yolo

[zenith pecan]

Experimental is doing reasonably well, always backup your saves, but tbh, have at it and get the bug reports rolling, the more the devs get, the better.

[brittle seal]

well probably wont report that much, just wanna play the game 😭 🙏

[brittle seal]

if the update goes live, i can go back from experimental to normal right?

[zenith pecan]

Here's an example of a bug #satisfactory-experimental message , that they have since fixed 😄

Without the reports, the devs have less to go on.

[mortal ginkgo]

the moment you open up the save in experimental, your save becomes version 1.1

you can move on from there at that point

[brittle seal]

yea valid, well when i find something i will report it

[brittle seal]

oh okay

just to make sure, achievements still work in experimental, right?

[zenith pecan]

Kinda, it's the act of saving that does it, not opening it 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

eh, he gets the point

[zenith pecan]

My 1.0 save has been repeatedly opened in Ex for various tests, I've just carried on in 1.0 as normal.

[brittle seal]

does anyone know? 🙏

[zenith pecan]

I can't test because I nuked all the achievements in 1.0

[solar forge]

Drones are confusing.

I have two ports right? Let's say one is 2 fuel/min and the other is 3.1 fuel/min. I have a drone at each port, and I only have fuel at the 2/min port. I've noticed the rate does not change if I remove a drone. So is the actual fuel consumption 4/min?

Also, why do the ports say different fuel usages, but it works fine if I only fuel the smaller one?

[brittle seal]

aight well i guess im gonna find out, thanks anyways tho

[leaden ether]

The rate of fuel use depends on the fuel type loaded into the landing platform. Though if you have NO fuel going into one, maybe that value is just some default? Not sure...

[solar forge]

both are batteries, one does not do any refueling

[rugged harness]

Hello if I use a partial translation what happens to untranslated strings?

Does it just default to English for everything else?

[leaden turret]

I think so, yes

[latent prawn]

what happens to the ada voiceovers?

i think that's the only spoken word in the game, right?

[leaden turret]

I'm wondering if <@&370483737957236737> can convince hannah to do the VA for dutch ada

fortunately google says the dutch for "choo choo" is "choo choo"

[latent prawn]

they probably want to leave it all as computer text-to-speech for maintainability reasons

[leaden turret]

netherlADA, when

[latent prawn]

neDa?

[willow agate]

Could anybody help me out with understanding why my pipes are not taking in fluid, I setup 20 coal furnaces and 10 water extractors, do I need more water extractors? The other coal gens get the water supplied to them but the ones further back seem to just not get any water supplied or like they do but its tiny amounts

[merry kettle]

Are you trying to run everything through one pipe

[leaden turret]

needs to have ADA in.

Like:

• ADA
• ElevADA (talking elevator)
• CaffeinADA (talking coffee machine)

[leaden turret]

^for reference re: CaffeinADA: #satisfactory message

[willow agate]

lemme ss my issue I guesss

[wheat reef]

CaffeinADA should talk as fast as possible

[leaden turret]

the cup AI in new vegas just really wanted coffee cups.

[latent prawn]

water extractors by default make 120/min water. mk1 pipes only have 300/min capacity. if you have 10 extractors and 20 generators on the same pipe, you're most likely way oversubscribed with pipe capacity

[merry kettle]

Mk1 pipes can only carry 300 m^3, mk2 600. Additionally you may need to add pumps, as there is a finite vertical distance that just a pure water extractor will push water. Additionally additionally, there's some added complexity with "sloshing" - pipes are bidirectional, so water can flow the "wrong direction", reducing the total throughput of a pipe

[wheat reef]

hold on
been watching my friend play, he killed the bubbly animal and ada said "I liked you more before that"

she says that?

[leaden turret]

expect ADA to treat you like

[merry kettle]

Sounds like a 1.1 line; experimental added a bunch of extra commentary from ADA

[latent prawn]

i killed a bean and she said something like 'i'm sure that animal didn't deserve that'

[willow agate]

im gonna try send a screenshot I guess of my issue via a link

i cant post here or I could dm u my issue

[leaden turret]

#1038092680493801533 is good for that

[willow agate]

ok ill post in that

[wheat reef]

also, does ADA lines vary depending on how fast you complete milestones?

cause i've copleted one step in a minute after completing past and she said that I work exceptionally fast

when usually she's like "at this point people already build nuclear stations"

[oblique thunder]

why is my smart splitter...not splitting?

[wheat reef]

Did you place it on the existing belt?

[oblique thunder]

oh it's just an experimental bug

[oblique thunder]

just fixed it by deleting it and placing it again

[wheat reef]

try reconnecting the belt to it

[wheat reef]

that's normal

[oblique thunder]

for experimental or the full version?

[wheat reef]

I think I had this problem with all splitters even on 1.0

[oblique thunder]

this is my first encounter with this after playing for 300 hours

[wheat reef]

I play for uhhh
200 i guess?

Hai

[hollow anvil]

anyone else think it would be a cool thing if we could control trains remotely

[leaden turret]

I mean you kinda sorta can

[hollow anvil]

what

how?

[leaden turret]

timetables and turning the power off

[hollow anvil]

okay i meant an intentional feature

[leaden turret]

doing whut

[hollow anvil]

that allows you to control where trains go remotely

[leaden turret]

looks at timetables

[grizzled lava]

Greetings

Any vanity roles one can obtain here?

[leaden turret]

nope

[hollow anvil]

thats not you cotrolling them remotely though thats just automating then, what i mean is being able to go into some sort of menu and sending a train to you

[leaden turret]

that's what people do with timetables.

only difference is you wanna be able to get a train to go somewhere without there being a train station involved

[hollow anvil]

i still dont think you understand what i mean

[leaden turret]

I don't think you understand what timetables can do 😛

[hollow anvil]

you have to set a timetable while youre inside the train dont you

oh my god

i never knew that was a feature

[grizzled lava]

This is nice server

[simple echo]

A whole day of playing

Rebuilding two of my factories

But finally

~1.8 supercomputers/minute

[hollow anvil]

nice

im doing that right now just setting up the trains

[simple echo]

Trains? What’s trains?
(Drone/truck gaming)

[robust nymph]

going for 60/minute right now

[hollow anvil]

trucks are lame cause they need fuel, trains use electricity

[simple echo]

[hollow anvil]

havent used drones yet though

where its at is factory carts

dont they use 0 fuel

[simple echo]

Drones are nice, esp. since they can use almost any type of fuel now

[simple echo]

My hauls between bases are too small to justify trains tbh

[robust nymph]

building a cooling system + radio control unit factory, and I decided to just make this extra big, and make OC super computers from half of the cooling systems and radios, even though I know it's resource inefficient

[simple echo]

And I DO NOT want to rebuild my logistics yet again

[robust nymph]

just makes my life easier, if resources become a problem later I'll build a new, more efficient SC factory

[hollow anvil]

this playthrough ive built everything based on my train grid

[hollow anvil]

im making batteries supercomputers and RCUs in one factory

[atomic notch]

I have a train that goes like 200 meters lol

[hollow anvil]

i make my factories wherever i want so trains are the number one transport for me

[robust nymph]

in my current playthrough everything that's not directly in a factory gets moved by train, even if it is 100 meters

effient? no. fun? yes

[hollow anvil]

yeah i only use conveyors for inside of factories

[atomic notch]

I have like 7 seperate tracks rn but im gonna have a bunch more when i start workin on p4

[hollow anvil]

you use seperate tracks?

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[hollow anvil]

i use the same track for everything

[atomic notch]

Rather just send em where they need to go then make a big loop

[hollow anvil]

lets me bring stuff to my base easier

[atomic notch]

I have like 4 main bases

[hollow anvil]

do you guys make specific factories for STD parts or do you just set up temporary parts and bring in the resources by hand

[leaden ether]

For Phase 1-4 I did the first but for phase 5 I got anxious to complete it and did the second -.-

I am NOW rebuilding everything to be 100% automated from start to finish.

[elder apex]

i build temporary assemblers/manufacturers that I sloop/OC and feed parts from ISCs , and for phase 5 I don't even bother

[hollow anvil]

lol

[elder apex]

i assume by STD parts you are referring to the space elevator parts required to transition from phase to phase

[hollow anvil]

yeah what else could i mean

[naive pendant]

Save the Day project presumably

[vestal mica]

Sexually transmitted diseases

[hollow anvil]

woah pal off topic

[vestal mica]

Dang autocorrect

[abstract heron]

@robust nymph I might do a bit of organization in my dd and do trains among other stuff while letting my rf fuel factory run

[sturdy mural]

guys i heard there's a crash site with a singular ||supercomputer|| that you can use for smth else?? any1 knows is there smth like this? cuz i just found the singular thing

[hollow anvil]

what? what is that

im assuming you dont mean just normal SCs

[sturdy mural]

man idk

iirc there was a "you can find a singular [item] near a crash site and use it for a [smth else idk]" somewhere

[hollow anvil]

i have no idea

[sturdy mural]

i just found a single SC and reminded me of smth like tis

[coarse geode]

is it worth it using compacted coal?

[plain hatch]

Ask a guy who went to the middle of the world underground to successfully get a bugged crate and perfectly cleared his radar after a bug anything…

0,0,0 baby

[split prairie]

im having problems with tractors, their routes, deadlocks and them running out of fuel and was thinking a good solution would be to make flying roads. dont know if thats a thing but seems like it would get rid of all the problems i have now.

if i were to do that, how high is advisable to build that (considering 4m foundations)?

[plain hatch]

I mean there’s no advisable height you can just build wherever and there’s no consequence

Usually 2m foundations is standard since they can be globally locked to grid perfectly while 1m can go half steps that don’t match globally and 4m is just needlessly thick

[split prairie]

no i mean more like how high do i need to build so when i start expanding the roads i wont hit walls and need to build very high ramps

[plain hatch]

The main consideration about building in the sky is you “disengage” with the terrain and it makes it like pointless to have a map. You can just pretend it’s a grid in the sky and it might be too clinical. So it’s nice sometimes to stay close to the ground and navigate around the trees and mountains and stuff

[split prairie]

cause right now im basically building anything ground level, some specific cases i did build a bit higher, but thats mostly more recent stuff

most of my start stuff are on foundations directly in the ground

[hollow anvil]

quite pointlessly high if you want to avoid absolutely all walls, trust me building ramps wont be awful as long as you decide a reasonable height. my idea is you should go up until you cant see much in the area

[plain hatch]

Yeah I would say like 20 meters up

Maybe more

It really depends how much you want to engage or disengage with the planet

[split prairie]

ok that sounds reasonable, ill try that

these tractors and production halts been bugging me for some days now

[hollow anvil]

20m is like 5 4m thick foundations thats not that high

if you wanna future proof id say like 40-60

but then again idk how far apart your transport points are

[plain hatch]

And also don’t use the steepest ramps

[hollow anvil]

yes

2m ramps are good

[split prairie]

yeah, i was doing a quick check at 40m and still doesnt seem very high (i mean i dont know if im below or above sea level) compared to some mountains i have in sight

[hollow anvil]

you are above sea level

[split prairie]

from where my base is i think ill need to go around 80m high

[hollow anvil]

unless youve been building inside caves

[split prairie]

i think its just the spot i picked to start my base is not very good, surrounded by high mountains

[plain hatch]

Northern forest?

[hollow anvil]

build above ground

building on the ground is lame anyways

too many hills and valleys makes it too inconsistent

[split prairie]

no clue, my first play. im trying to build away from the mountains for now

[hollow anvil]

one the select screen did you pick the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th option

[sturdy mural]

guys how do you counter stingers hiting inside of the rocks

[split prairie]

1st one, its the forest world. i remember the 2nd was like a desert

[hollow anvil]

right

youll be fine with the 1st one

[plain hatch]

Oh ok

You’re good

[hollow anvil]

the terrain isnt that bad

a top tip is make sure youre building on world grid

itll make future problems much easier

[split prairie]

yeah, been doing that. i think i figured out a solution, theres a gap between the mountains which i think is where i could make the tractors go through to reach the main base. i was thinking i would need to do foundations above the mountains but i think this other way would work

its near some waterfalls so i think it will work out fine

[hollow anvil]

i havent used tractors extensively but make sure they dont run into each other

[split prairie]

yeah, thats my main problem now. too many running in tight places, creating deadlocks and the ones that reach come to stations with no fuel

will try to fix it when i come back, have to head out now

[wheat reef]

what do i do with 1680 iron ingots per miniute? I will make all basics that I can do with assemblers and can't quite find the right proportions to make base components(screws, plates, rods)

[green fiber]

well, should plan that first before you just make 1.6k ingots

[marsh inlet]

6300 fuel per minute fully over clocked generators. If someone can do the calculations for me it would be very nice( I do not have them unlocked yet and I can't remember the rates of it)

[wheat reef]

I mean yea

[vale dagger]

has anyone had this bug where your push-pull train gets stuck on "docking" no matter what? ive tried basically everything and whats weird is i have another train that is separate set up identically that has 0 issues at all

[green fiber]

6300 / 50 = thats how many generators you need

[fresh wharf]

If I have fuel power does petroleum coke serve me any purpose?

[wheat reef]

guess i gotta go use calculator

[marsh inlet]

K

[marsh inlet]

Ty

[green fiber]

eat it.

[fresh wharf]

How much bars healed per 200 stack?

[green fiber]

0

[fresh wharf]

Good enough

[marsh inlet]

💀

[green fiber]

If you cant eat it maybe your AWESOME Sink can

that thing eats just about anything

[fresh wharf]

I think I'm going to buy 150 ficsit cups

[wheat reef]

wait i can dismantle crash sites?

yey, i can clean that mess

[marsh inlet]

1.1 only

[wheat reef]

Oh I see

[marsh inlet]

Does anyone know where to get other rolls on this server

[green fiber]

you dont get any just like that

[marsh inlet]

How do you get them though like create a ticket

[vale dagger]

now the station that was working to dock doesnt anymore aghhh trains are so buggy

[green fiber]

Theres only one handed out to community: the blue one.
And thats by being around regularily and being helpful.
No other roles are available

unless you wanna apply to be a moderator

[wheat reef]

Station is unreachable
why? the train has rails to turn around, everything is connected

[marsh inlet]

Ok thanks

[vale dagger]

trains are so tempermental i stg

[green fiber]

station might be the wrong way around and thus the train cant arrive at it the way it wants

the station has a curved roof if you pay attention

that curved roof gives you the stations direction

and that roof has to be facing the same direction as the locomotive's front when it arrives

[wheat reef]

Oh i see
thanks^^

[green fiber]

locomotives can only pull trains so theres not much freedom there in terms of how you are allowed to place down your station

[vale dagger]

can someone tell me why my push pull train is stuck on docking when i have another pushpull train set up the exact same way working fine

only diff between the two is one has 3 wagons one has 2

[wheat reef]

what is a "pull-push"? train with locomotives on both ends?

[green fiber]

usually

[vale dagger]

yeah

[hollow anvil]

yeah

[green fiber]

<===>

[hollow anvil]

i dont do pull push trains tho

[vale dagger]

yep exactly

[hollow anvil]

at least not yet i like having big loops

[vale dagger]

maybe my trains would act right if i just did a loop

[wheat reef]

Oh i see why the station was unreachable
just had another test drive and it got off the rails

[vale dagger]

or a loop at the ends

[marsh inlet]

Can someone give me a random item and a production rate for me to do I'm bored

[wheat reef]

5k iron ingots per minute

[green fiber]

make 45/min Modular Frames in exactly 40 minutes
G O

[trim swift]

Do you think 600.000 mw will be enough?

[marsh inlet]

Already doing that 💀

[marsh inlet]

Bet

[lime ermine]

I have a couple that are in areas that just don't fit into my mainline

[wheat reef]

I accidentally made 1680 per minute and now think how to handle it cause it was divided in multiple constructuion sites, and now it's full 1680 belt(multiple mk5 belts)

[marsh inlet]

Just need to finish my fuel plant

[lime ermine]

Assembly director systems, 7.5 a minute. Have fun! (Took me weeks to make 3 a minute)

[wheat reef]

yey, i fixed the station problem

[trim swift]

Do you guys think 600.000 MW will be enough? Going to build nuclear reactors

[lime ermine]

Stations are the hardest part of trains

[lime ermine]

Yes

[trim swift]

Bet

[vale dagger]

for us americans do you mean 600,000?

[hollow anvil]

no i think its connecting them with railways

[trim swift]

It’s the same thing lmaooo

[wheat reef]

my whole factory uses like
5gwt?

[lime ermine]

Oh yeah

[marsh inlet]

Bet

[stray patio]

whats the name for the interactiv map of Satisfactory

[trim swift]

I already use 100,000 MW and don’t have crazy shit build

[cyan garnet]

SCIM

[trim swift]

Satisfactory calculator

[marsh inlet]

Btw if you are doing a big project use satisfactory modeler on steam free

[vale dagger]

if you use more than one locomotive for a train not in push/pull, does each need its own station at each stop? or just the front one

[hollow anvil]

i would think that just the ones in between would them

and the ends would need ones that keep going forwards

so like

[<--] [<->] [-->]

[vale dagger]

oh no thats for push pull

i mean like if i have 2 locomotives going same direction, only front one needs the station?

[hollow anvil]

oh

[vale dagger]

then the wagons need their freight station but the second loco doesnt right

[hollow anvil]

yeah i think so

[vale dagger]

k cool thanks

[lime ermine]

Yeah for the loco just put an empty platform

[vale dagger]

ahh good ok

[wheat reef]

I am gonna explode

If I don't go insane in two hours of calculations that'll be a miracle

[trim vine]

you need 650

[wicked nacelle]

I'm sinking 100M/m on 500MW - was doing it on less until I added more power that I'm not actually using but takes power to make.

[wheat reef]

Chat gpt didnt help me count
Guess i gotta do it all myself...

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[wheat reef]

*rdr2 clip of Arthur
I'm afraid

[floral rivet]

should i play the game

[wheat reef]

Yes

[atomic notch]

Eh

[atomic notch]

If you can do basic math youll be fine. If not theres tools for people who struggle with that

[floral rivet]

i have already been playing i just lost interest i think ima start a new save

[atomic notch]

Oh

[peak wasp]

Wanna see my newest invention?

THE WALL

[floral rivet]

a wall

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

behold the wall

[wheat reef]

#screenshots message
How screwed am I?

[sullen gull]

Nah, You'll be fiiiine.

[wheat reef]

At least it gave me the idea to do

Satisfactory modeler for the win

[marsh inlet]

fr

[wheat reef]

How friendly is satisfactory community?

Cause i'm new to people here and in the community at all, i only played alone not getting into any forums and such

[peak wasp]

I have yet to stab anyone so is that friendly?

[wheat reef]

do you have a reason to?

[clear echo]

I used to use Satis Calc, then the ads went everywhere so it became barely usable on my iPad. Now I just have Modeler sitting on a second monitor

[sullen gull]

There can be a lot of "This way and this alt are the best and anything else is dumb" type of mentality. Just remember, It's YOUR game and you play it how ever you please.

[wheat reef]

If i had a second monitor i would do the same

[ripe mantle]

Yes, just don't tell someone you know more than them

[sullen gull]

Ublock origin is a must have imo

[wheat reef]

so it's friendly but dislike egoism and rudeness
good

[ripe mantle]

I notice a tendency of older and/or just generally more mature people in this community when compared to others

[sullen gull]

I'm older... can't speak much to the maturity though 😏

[wheat reef]

The only thing i know is that I know nothing

and i especially have no idea how to build the thing i need

guess my factory will get a few more floors

[sullen gull]

Best tip I can think of is beams and pillars are your best friends when it comes to building

[wheat reef]

My designs are
meh
i can show my very first try at decorating my factory

[clear echo]

best tip I can come up with is plan early, plan often.
Don't be like me. I've spent the past 400 hours of my save rebuilding early progression factories because just scraping by was, in fact, not just scraping by.

[sullen gull]

Pllanning?! What's that? 😏

[wheat reef]

planning's for the weak or smart

[clear echo]

you've just described early game me

[wheat reef]

i'm neither

[sullen gull]

I have a bad habit of starting with about 15% of an idea and just winging it through 😒

[wheat reef]

me

#screenshots message
Here, that was my first try

[sullen gull]

Not too shabby

[zenith pecan]

I've done that, gather raw materials to a spot then think. ~err shit! what now, and just make up the rest on the fly.

[sullen gull]

What're you working on today?

[wheat reef]

THAT'S EXACTLY ME RN
i got 1680 iron ingots per minute and spent a few hours deciding what do i do now

[zenith pecan]

This place: #satisfactory-experimental message : being an example, I only have a rough idea of what I have next.

[zenith pecan]

Bauxite highway currently, 2400 out of 12300 ore is down in the tunnels already with another 600 being routed.

[sullen gull]

Niice. I really need to get off me arse and finish phase 4. Have my 'skyway' ran, but with all mk5 belts atm lol

Going to have a ton of upgrading to do.

[zenith pecan]

The idea is some aluminium ingots will meet with reanimated sam to produce ficsite/trigons etc, then enough alclad and casings for belt mats, batteries, rcys , stores and crap, I'll make the rest up later.

While drinking my nearby vodka! 😄

[sullen gull]

Lol, Though I have to go in for like 5 minutes to drop some stuff into the tank for plating, I have tomorrow off till tuesday, so the Screwball will most likely be coming out 😏

#screenshots message 12,300 bauxite and three pure copper nodes ready and waiting 😏

Well, not 'technically 12,300 YET .. but you get the point lol

[peak wasp]

So what's a good factory planner?

[zenith pecan]

I started at the end, the tunnel growing fatter as I collect more nodes and get closer to where the bauxite refinery will be sited.

[sullen gull]

Satisfactory Tools, Satisfactory-Calculator, and Satisfactory Modeler.

[zenith pecan]

Once that is done and the skeleton of the refinery is up, I'll take some time to collect the worlds uranium to one spot on the Z-axis baseline.

[sullen gull]

In no particular order. The first two are online and the latter is way more "manual" than the others.

[sullen gull]

Nice, going for the 'Mine everything in the world' challenge S-Tools has 😏

[peak wasp]

I mean it's more manual but seems to have the ability to load a entire factory

[sullen gull]

Well, maybe not so much a challenge, but it's on the planner as a default iirc.,

[zenith pecan]

More common crap don't bother me much, but quartz, baux, sam and uranium, hell yeah I'll move it all.

[sullen gull]

I personally find Modeler's way of setup and organization better. Though Tools and calc both do really well at "auto generating" a production line from input(s)

[zenith pecan]

I do plan to collect ***all ***of the oil in the spire to produce rubber & plastic,

[sullen gull]

Yeah, so far I have tapped all of the oil in the spire coast, plus the ones sort of mid map, and one on the SE coast.

[zenith pecan]

Doing outsize stuff like that and other stunts is why I end up with thousands of hours in a game.

[true mulch]

all the planners can show entire factories, not sure what you mean by that

I wouldn't really recommend SCIM for planning though. The map is excellent however

[sullen gull]

I started at the end of Update 8 in August of 24 and already have 2658 hours 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Once I have enough of my stuff planned and rebuilt, I'll re-do cannon experiments, never know, I might be able to have further updates to my prior data, remember the cannon brakes and stuff 😄

[zenith pecan]

Similar time to one of my saves 😄

[true mulch]

ooh that'd be awesome

[sullen gull]

What's wrong with Calcs planner? (I personally haven't used either in some time so I am not aware)

[sullen gull]

Ahh, that's just steam time..

This save is currently ....

[zenith pecan]

I have had issues with the scim map, it loves to stop responding when I load one of my worlds 😦

[sullen gull]

849 hours

[sullen gull]

It doesn't know what to do with all the illegalities going on! 😏

[true mulch]

the mode which shows individual buildings doesn't generate plans the way a human would build them (and is generally unreadable past tier 4)
there is no optimization between available recipes, it's limited to 1 recipe per item and just uses the recipe you tell it to use (SFTools optimizes between available ones based on resource cost)

[zenith pecan]

Ahh no I don't do steam time, it literally is by the clock of the one save starting at the dunes, my steam time isn't accurate since I err "sailed the high seas" before the official steam release, then bought three copies of satisfactory (one for me, my brother and my best bud in wyoming)

[true mulch]

I don't know how the Modeler app works but I assume it's entirely manual

[zenith pecan]

Usually, too much in the map and it chokes it 😦

[sullen gull]

Yeah. But the way you can setup and organize factories and the connections between them is nice.

[inner echo]

I'm a big fan of planning tools without the diligence to actually use them. At most I use calculator to get an idea of what I may want to do...and then I go to the field.

[true mulch]

if it works for you, sure, I just don't see the usefulness in that personally 😄

[inner echo]

I love Obsidian. Do I really use it? No.

[robust nymph]

and it used to (maybe not anymore, I haven't used it in a long time) make math errors on larger factories

[peak wasp]

I tried scrim but I couldn't save my factories at all on it...maybe I messed up somewhere

[sullen gull]

Like, this is my 'working' file that I have going in modeler for this save: #screenshots message

[robust nymph]

what do you mean with saving your factory on it?

[true mulch]

makes sense. I just have a SFTools tab for each factory and that works for me

why punch in numbers manually if the computer already has them

[peak wasp]

Like just keep my entire product line on there so I can keep track on how many resources I am using

[true mulch]

I mean it's slightly better than writing markdown in VS Code but that's about it

[peak wasp]

And when I need to make a new mine

[sullen gull]

Modeler does all the math for you. You just have to tell it how many parts you want

[true mulch]

it can plan production lines?

[sullen gull]

Or you can tell it to use only a certain amount of buildings.

[atomic notch]

I can plan production lines.

[sullen gull]

No, you add motors for example, using whatever alt you want, and then just drag the inputs out and it will ask you which recipe you want to use, etc.,

Anyhow, it's free on steam, so couldn't hurt to take a look anyhow.

Oh, and highly recommend changing the line style to 2D. Much easier to read imo.

[verbal swallow]

Is splitters slowing belt down?

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[zenith pecan]

I've never had it with splitters, and "some" limited slowdown on mergers.

[peak wasp]

hi

[verbal swallow]

I'm running a mk2 belt in, and two mk1 into a smelter mk1. The "input" seemt o "crash" and holds up the production due to it

[sullen gull]

How do you mean buy 'crash'?

[verbal swallow]

The input "stops" for a brief moment - even with "space" available in the outputs
https://i.imgur.com/TuKzmux.jpeg

[rotund pine]

What is the best place to ask technical support questions?
I upgraded my PC but Satisfactory keeps crashing 1 minute into gameplay

[sullen gull]

Hmm, interesting. Tried restarting the game, deleting and remaking the belt? I personally have not had that though.

[sullen gull]

You can try in #1038092680493801533

[rotund pine]

Sure thanks

[verbal swallow]

Its a MP server running @ nitrado. not sure if its lag. I'll try restarting

[sullen gull]

Ahhh.

[peak wasp]

Are trucks and tractors good for transport

I see constantly slander abt them being bad but are they actually bad?

[true mulch]

they are kind of niche, you can only use them if there's a fuel source at either destination

[peak wasp]

Are they good tho?

[true mulch]

they aren't awful, but I personally don't use them

[peak wasp]

I rlly want to use everything in satisfactory and i was planning on using vehicles for medium distance transport

[true mulch]

vehicles are entirely optional, and if it's more effort to set them up than just a belt stack, then you have to resort to the only other factor:

Coolness

[peak wasp]

Trains for long distance, conveyors for short distance and vehicles for medium distance

[sullen gull]

There is nothing wrong with them. takes some setup, and as Ondar said, fuel (Biomass works for a bit early on)

[peak wasp]

Im alr at coal stage

[sullen gull]

Nice

[atomic notch]

Trains for long distance trains for medium distance trains for short distance

[peak wasp]

I got an 8:3 coal gene setup alr made and my power is fine

[sullen gull]

You could totally use coal as fuel too.

[true mulch]

if you haven't tried them yet, then definitely do, to get your own feel for them

[atomic notch]

Yeah i done that pulled coal to power trucks

[sullen gull]

Haha, now go to the lake in the middle and build 64 of them off the 4 nodes there 🤣 🤣 😏

[peak wasp]

😭

64 is crazy 😭

Ion need 64 ive alr got enough power as it is 💔

[atomic notch]

Yeah 64 is more like a p3 thing

[sullen gull]

Naaaah, #screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

My really old coal here #screenshots message , had 96 🙂

[atomic notch]

#math-and-meta message

Theres a fun one

[sullen gull]

Yeah, in this save I have two coal setups like I showed going atm.

[sullen gull]

Nice, clean, simple. Like it 🙂

[peak wasp]

DEAR GOD WTF DID I JST SEE

SWEET MOTHER OF GOD THE HORROR

[zenith pecan]

A long retired coal station that was used to boot up a colossal turbofuel facility.

[atomic notch]

My coal power makes rubber too

Had to pull the sloops and shards out tho so its slightly less efficient

[prisma thicket]

Is that a pet coke/coal gen setup?

[peak wasp]

Considering the amount of screws in one screw resource how many actual screws do yall think go into heavy modular frames

[prisma thicket]

Depends on what recipes you're using.

[peak wasp]

It says 120 the item looks like its got 200 in it

[prisma thicket]

I build my HMFs with no screws lol

[sullen gull]

Well, here is a 400x (Not overclocked) rocket fuel gen plant to get you motivated for when you get there 😏 #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

Nah nah nah i mean as in the item screws

It looks like its got loads of screws in one item right?

[prisma thicket]

True

[peak wasp]

In that case, how many screws are actually used in one hmf

[dusky relic]

Can I get concrete pillars to have the same texture as the coated concrete foundation?

[peak wasp]

120 of the item and theres like 100 screws in one item

[sullen gull]

I don't believe so. Not 100% sure though.

[prisma thicket]

You'd have to check the awesome shop for finishes that look close.

[atomic notch]

Mods

[sullen gull]

I do believe you may be able to play with the numbers on the third slider and get a "shiny" look .

[prisma thicket]

Well that little box does look like it has a few hundred in it, so like... 10k per HMF? lol

[dusky relic]

I've bought out the awesome shop

[prisma thicket]

Then if there's any way to make the concrete pillars look like coated concrete foundations, you have it already, and if there isn't, then it doesn't exist yet 😛 something you could suggest or upvote on the QA site

[sullen gull]

I can't get it to do it with the colors, sooo, probably not.

[peak wasp]

The hmf is made of screws atp

[prisma thicket]

The coated concrete is like a glossy light grey right? Maybe if you use a metal pillar with that colour set to shiny it'll look close enough?

[sullen gull]

Afaik you can't set any colour on the metal pillars, only the concrete ones.

[prisma thicket]

Well, that kills that idea xD

[sullen gull]

Yeah, just checked, no change.

Anything 'metal' stays metal :/

[prisma thicket]

Can you at least set the concrete pillars to shiny vs matte colours?

[dusky relic]

Cant color shift metal pillars

[sullen gull]

Yeah, and also remember you can input your own numbers on the colour sliders.

here is a good one on colours: https://youtu.be/Ipg3CIRP7Ns?feature=shared

[prisma thicket]

Yah, and to get a good bright colour or a really dark/deep colour, set the bottom value to 100 or -100

[sullen gull]

You don't even have to go that dark lol. I use a matte black at -5 on the third and that shiz absorbs all light 🤣

[prisma thicket]

Lol well I like my blacks BLACK 😛 was a goth kid growing up 😅

[sullen gull]

I hung around the goth kids .... does that count? 🤣

[prisma thicket]

Were you a theatre kid?

[sullen gull]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[prisma thicket]

HAHAHAH! I knew it! LOL

[sullen gull]

Though, usually I was doing construction of the sets.

At at least two of the schools I went to iirc.

[prisma thicket]

Ahhhh so you were like me 😛 I called us the "stage Apes" since the drama kids were "stage monkeys" they did the acting, we apes did the heavy lifting lol

Also helped that my school's weightlifting room was direct next to/above the stage lol

[outer prairie]

Hey guys

[atomic notch]

Yo

[sullen gull]

In the words from Mrs. Doubtfire : Helllllooo

[prisma thicket]

Man, I miss Robin Williams lol

[split badger]

the reason i was kinda hoping for mk 3 pipes was to help reduce bottlenecking for my factories

600 ml/s can be slow at times like my alumina solution

[tranquil maple]

been a stage manager since 6th grade, i get talking abt theatre, but there IS #off-topic-general

[prisma thicket]

My apologies, got a little carried away 😅

[sullen gull]

Nah, you were good. Think they're just saying if you want to continue the convo 😏

[tropic sinew]

Bro the pressure thing imkibitz mentioned in one of his videos is so helpful

[prisma thicket]

Which pressure thing?

[tropic sinew]

Where you can bring just one pipe really high and it pressurizes all other pipes

[prisma thicket]

Nice, good to know 🙂

[dense violet]

You know you get the same effect by placing 1 pump right?

and I wouldn't emulate imkibitz's piping

[tropic sinew]

Oh I can use one pump to pressurize 9 full mk2 pipes?

[dense violet]

yes. If you really want. But you shouldn't connect 9 mk2s in any way, water tower or no

[tropic sinew]

How?

[dense violet]

by doing the same dumb thing as a water tower and clipping a valve to the connections

[swift kernel]

Y'all wanna see what I spent today building?

[dense violet]

but in both examples, it's always best to not merge pipes together

pumps are dirt cheap and basically cost nothing to run

[prisma thicket]

Oooo please share 😄

[swift kernel]

#screenshots message

Reworked this truck stop from eight stops to twelve.

I had to completely redo pretty much everything

[sullen gull]

Er, what's in slot 2?

[swift kernel]

Paintable Power Lines from a mod

[sullen gull]

Ahhhh ok

[swift kernel]

Allows me to color code powerlines so it's easier to segment my power grid

[tropic sinew]

I'm still on coal 130 hours in because I'm working on a 60,000 (technically 120,000 but I'm too lazy to double it) MW fuel power plant

[swift kernel]

I keep lights separate, so I can put them on the low priority. Because when I finally finish this all up, all my factories are gonna be running to a sink, so I'm anticipating power outages as all my factories come to life.

Here, I'll post my powergrid

#screenshots message It's gonna be struggling once I connect all these truck stations to the sink

[prisma thicket]

O.o you should upgrade that coal plant you've got going... by like a LOT lol you using the coal nodes by Sodapop Lake?

[swift kernel]

Indeed! I'm making compacted coal and running those into 32 generators

[sullen gull]

Lol, is that the actual name of it? Which lake anyhow?

[prisma thicket]

I don't know if it has an actual name, I just liked Astral's name for it, so I remember it lol

[swift kernel]

That's what I call the lake just north of the Plains. The Plains I call Planetfall Plains

[sullen gull]

All, right on. The one with 4 nodes near it?

[swift kernel]

It's called sodapop lake because it's carbonated

[true mulch]

there's a what lake and what plains now? I swear I played this game just a few months back

[sullen gull]

Ahh yeah, I member now.

[prisma thicket]

You're using compacted coal but only getting ~2000 MW of power? Strange, I have 32 gens running on regular coal and I'm getting 3600 MW

[swift kernel]

I had to get a little creative with how to get the tractor in for Station SL#D6 #screenshots message

[prisma thicket]

2 Normal nodes, 2 impure nodes with all miners clocked to 200%

[swift kernel]

Hmm, maybe I'm misremembering my setup. Lemme blink over to my generator setup real quick

I haven't put the roof on yet, so I'm in luck

Looks like something happened to one of my pumps and I didn't realize it #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Rut roh

[prisma thicket]

Well, hopefully now your power situation is at least a little better with your gens all running at full capacity

Is this the same save where you rushed to Mk.6 belts?

[swift kernel]

I'm really glad you said something #screenshots message

[swift kernel]

Lol no no. That was my very first save in Alpha

[prisma thicket]

Ahhhhhhh gotcha

[swift kernel]

And I think it was Mk.5

[sullen gull]

I don't think you can just let the water fall in the pipes like that .... 😏

[swift kernel]

So I must have messed up my powergrid while working on the truckstop #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

I hate when i catch a stray wire or something from the background with a dismantle

[swift kernel]

I've rewired it so it should be more reliable now #screenshots message

[swift kernel]

You saved my butt. Thank you for catching that

[prisma thicket]

Nice work, glad you caught it 😄

Still, 3600 MW isn't quite the 6000+ you need lol

[sullen gull]

Lol, I didn't do nuthin. That was you and @prisma thicket talking 🙂

[swift kernel]

Oh, you're my savior! Thank you for catching my power problems

[swift kernel]

I need to pay attention lol.

[prisma thicket]

Happy to have helped 🙂

[sullen gull]

I try. Can't afford it.

[swift kernel]

fkn mood

[covert talon]

im trying to set up a block signal in an intersection but the whole train rail is red? anyone know why perhaps

its like a T intersection between two train paths

[prisma thicket]

That may just be the colour of that "block", place the signal down and you may see some of it change colour

[covert talon]

im just getting errors wherever, either about it looping or not blocking anything

im new to trains tho so its a bit confusing

[prisma thicket]

I'm not the best with trains myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inV923LwhrE This video might help, the guy loves his trains.

[covert talon]

thank u, imma check it out

[prisma thicket]

Hope it helps 🙂

[wheat reef]

Service floors are so good

[prisma thicket]

Service floors? Like a separate floor to run all your belts and such?

[wheat reef]

yup

not sure of it's name in english

[covert talon]

i like sticking elevators underground with conveyors so i don’t have to look at it

[prisma thicket]

Logistics floor, but service floor works too I think

[wheat reef]

logistics, yeah, thanks

[atomic notch]

its like instead of cleaning ur room u just shove it all under ur bed

[prisma thicket]

Must hide the SPAGHETT!

[covert talon]

depends wether the logistics floor is clean

[wheat reef]

I mean

it works

[atomic notch]

u just organized stuff under ur bed then

[leaden turret]

open air spaghett ftw

[atomic notch]

i wanna see shit movin lol

[wheat reef]

#screenshots message
huh

[prisma thicket]

I'm actually terrible at logistics floors lol like I'll start a project with one in mind then barely use it

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message i do buil under platforms tho

[prisma thicket]

Wait... do ceiling hangers for belts STACK?

[atomic notch]

yeah

[leaden turret]

yes

[wheat reef]

#screenshots message
That's how I organised it here

[prisma thicket]

😭 I've been doing it wrong then... I had no idea you could stack them

[atomic notch]

lift to splitter/merger is awesome so compact

[wheat reef]

the hell you mean it's past 2am

which window type is your favorite?

[sullen gull]

For me it varies between Full, Hex, and Honeycomb

[atomic notch]

i dont really use windows tbh

[zenith pecan]

Sorry for being slow, I had to lay down, but I thought you already knew about this place #satisfactory-experimental message , 720 rocket fuel generators in here, all of them running at 240%

[wheat reef]

that belt monitor is so good

[sullen gull]

No worries, and yeah, the 800m tall under map one 😏

[zenith pecan]

That power station actually sits in the blue crater, above the map 😛

[sullen gull]

My comment was more towards the other person scoffing at 64 coal gens and your 96 one lol

[sullen gull]

Oh, then no, lol didn't know 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Ah heh, I limit coals to 32 these days due to leaping to oil.

[wheat reef]

780x3 screws producted here

[prisma thicket]

O.o why screws? There's so many ways to either incorporate them into your production or just skip them entirely lol

[wheat reef]

cause i need a lot of screws

[timid rune]

Heavy Frame?

[sullen gull]

Because in early game they trick you into thinking you'll need a ton 😏

[timid rune]

or Motors

[zenith pecan]

Screws can be used in efficient builds, but they are really best made right next to the production lines that use them.

[wheat reef]

basically all starter items

never ask a schizo why he produces all screws at one place

oh hold on

[timid rune]

oh yeah I was dealing with 3000 screws a min lol

[wheat reef]

it's 780 cause my production overflowed a bit

gotta let it flow a bit

sinking

[timid rune]

I am gonna rework my motor production setup

a Blueprint of 5 Assembler doing screw -> 2 Assembler doing rotor

[sullen gull]

So far in this save, I set 8 constructors making screws with the default recipe. So, ... 320 screws/min

[timid rune]

also nobody should ever need 240 constructors producing Iron wire 😄

[sullen gull]

And that was 850+ hours ago 🤣

[prisma thicket]

I have I think 5 constructors making screws, most of which is going into making my rotors lol I don't even have any of the excess going into my DD, just one container of storage for emergency purposes and the rest go to the sink lol

Most of the time I go without screws. Stitched Iron Plates is a great alternate 😛

[timid rune]

I have about 150 ish constructors making screws for Rotors

[prisma thicket]

Yeesh, how many rotors you making /min?

[wheat reef]

mk5 belts are satisfying to look at

[timid rune]

300 rotors/min

[sullen gull]

Wait till ye get Mk6 and can set all sorts of funky colours 😛

[timid rune]

tbf my motor setup is overkill atm

[wheat reef]

there are mk6???

[timid rune]

yep

Mk6 is 1200/min

[prisma thicket]

Yes, 1200 items per minute

[wheat reef]

OH

[prisma thicket]

The only belt that can handle a Mk.3 Miner on a pure node overclocked to 250%

To think if they had stuck with doubling belt speeds though, Mk.6 would have been 1980 items per minute lol

[tranquil maple]

lmao

[timid rune]

2000 is the game limit I think

[sullen gull]

But how?

[timid rune]

there are mods that can do upto 2000/min belts

which I am using

[sullen gull]

Oh, well,. with mods lol

[timid rune]

but at that point the game starts throwing spasms

[prisma thicket]

Damn 2000 per minute... it must just be a blur of items lol

[timid rune]

you can't quite reach 2000 because of lag but it is good enough for certain use cases

[prisma thicket]

Like if you just want one item per minute to get from point a to b instantly lol

[sullen gull]

Ludicrous Speed!

[prisma thicket]

They've gone PLAID! xD

[sullen gull]

Maybe I just being a dunce, but there isn't any 'short cuts' for the hot bar are there?

[wheat reef]

alt and mouse wheel

[sullen gull]

Like Ctrl+Alt+# to switch or something

[prisma thicket]

Ugh... Sometimes I'm tempted to turn enemy aggression back on, to make exploring more interesting... then I come across a Nuclear Hog and remember why I keep it off lol

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that one I knew. But I always end up overhooting and play the back and forth game till I get the one I want heh

[sullen gull]

For me it's the spiders lol. Any and all!

[prisma thicket]

Eh, stingers don't bug me really. I know they are fast, but they die easily assuming you hit them

[wheat reef]

elite stinger

[prisma thicket]

Ok, I'll give you that one xD

[wheat reef]

Elite stinger with arachophobic mode on

[sullen gull]

And they jump!

Like, nothing freakier than seeing one of those things jumping at you on the jetpack/hover pack lol

[wheat reef]

nothing worse then hearing it jump when you don't see it

[prisma thicket]

I already live with a cat that's constantly in my face, I don't need the extra ones thank you very much xD

[sullen gull]

Or the skittering!

[weary thistle]

Weird thing just started happening: I dismantle something, and the orange 'dismantle frame' stays in the world....

anyone seen this - know how to fix it?

[sullen gull]

Try to do a reload. Happens to me every once in a blue moon.

[weary thistle]

no luck - it started after I changed graphic settings (but I set everything back to ultra - and won't fix) - I haven't tried single player (it's on a server - both have been restarted)

and didn't think about this till now - I just updated nvidia drivers....

[sullen gull]

Yeah, it was happening to me on my personal dedicated setup. Typically I would just restart and it would be fine. And it mostly happened with blueprints. Every once in a while I may have had to restart the server. But, if you say you've done those, I'm not sure

I gotta stop drinking and playing. Spent 5 minutes trying to figure out why the sink wasn't getting power ..... It was because I didn't wire it to the pole right next to it 🤦‍♂️

[placid stirrup]

Known and common bug, I believe they've been trying to patch it with 1.1 but I remember still seeing it before I took a break

Sometimes placing a machine or BP over the hologram makes it go away, otherwise you just have to move away and do something else and it'll disappear on its own.

[sullen gull]

Oh, and just realized the hoverpack can only just keep up with a mk5 belt 😛

[prisma thicket]

Surprising, since it's slower than running with blade runners

[sullen gull]

Right.

I only use it when hovering to build. Otherwise it's bladrunners and jetpack. Liquid Bio all the way 😏

[prisma thicket]

I love that if you hit it at the right angle, the parachute can let you climb up sheer cliffs lol

[sacred summit]

Weird... I'm not sure why that post was just blocked.

I'm certain that the heftiest portion of this is my own inefficiencies and learning, but I swear I've spent like 15+ hours working just to create this much so far.
There's obviously a bit more to do, but the time investment required just to try and learn to make an "interesting" factory is... disheartening would maybe be the most appropriate term.
#screenshots message

[dense violet]

probably a link

[sacred summit]

Yep, it was. I attached that screenshot to the word "this"

[dense violet]

did you direct link the actual image rather than the msg? I've noticed gen chat doesn't like that

[sacred summit]

ah, nope, it was the chat message

[dense violet]

odd

[sacred summit]

Specifically, I did this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1375296945811095613/image.png?ex=68312c97&is=682fdb17&hm=0d34467a843522d05531cf44ee4dfd642080ba424f3a6169ea64df0aa0188354&

[trim vine]

Copy whatever image you did

crtl + v

And add some text

😛

[trim vine]

Is this your first time playing the game/progressing?

[sacred summit]

Okay, just the whole attempt to attach the hyperlink TO THE TEXT seems to be the problem

That format/syntax. Like I can link manually, this way... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1375295828293587137/image.png

But just trying to embed it into the word "this" or "this way" so that you click on themessage to view it, doesn't work

[trim vine]

Just curious, cause you should be proud, it looks good, and the more you play, the more you kinda can start to eyeball space needed and other designs

First time playing though, just getting everything balanced and flowing as right as can be is huge on its own

tldr I like the way it looks ❤️

[timid rune]

that is really really good looking

[sacred summit]

OH, sorry! I got distracted with the link response. Yep, it is my first time playing the game.

But thank you, i do like the way it's turning out. Trying to learn to not do just the basic rectangles. My disappointment is more about how much of a time investment it's been, when it's just a small scale motor facility. Like all that time, for small-scale motor production 🤣 😭

[trim vine]

It gets much easier the more you do it

but, if you ever watch youtubers, and draw inspiration from them, remember they just boop things for us to see as they build, but it takes them HOURS to do stuff, if not days

But our minds think, oh, it only takes a few minutes, when no, its a long time, and a lot of effort

And, I sometimes like "open face" factories, you can see all the INDUSTRY moving and grooving

[vernal patrol]

I am on my first playthrough and im just wondering if turbo heavy fuel is worth a pickup?

[weary thistle]

Yup, it's with blueprints - it just hadn't done it before until I got the Mk 2 blueprint station

[trim vine]

It's my preferred recipe, before blenders

[vernal patrol]

okay ill grab it then

[sullen gull]

Doh.

[dense violet]

it is the most oil ineeficient turbo recipe though

[vernal patrol]

tru

[sullen gull]

Just out of curiosity, did you try to rollback those nvidia driver by chance?

[vernal patrol]

im not too hard pressed for oil rn tho

[dense violet]

regular turbo fuel with diluted packaged fuel is much more potent

[trim vine]

There are a few other good recipes to combine with that

You will be able to make a fair amount of rubber and plastic with that setup too

[vernal patrol]

ive got two other normal nodes in proximity so i should be fine

[dense violet]

turbo heavy is particularly bad if you don't have hte heavy oil recipoe

[vernal patrol]

atm ive got 5 rubber and 5 plastic (stolen from kibbitz :p) is that like good or not so good?

[vernal patrol]

i think i rescanned that 😔

[trim vine]

5 what?

Refiners making rubber and plastic?

[vernal patrol]

yea

[reef forge]

i spent 4 hours making a 10/m motor factory and it worked first try 😎

[trim vine]

Its great 🙂

[reef forge]

i am now rolling in hundreds of motors

[vernal patrol]

yayyy

and electrode circuits?

(rubber plus petrol coke)

[trim vine]

not my favorite, but excellent if you dont have any use for your pet coke/HOR

[dense violet]

yeah, it's pretty pointless w/o that if yo uactually want it for power

[trim vine]

but, as you are finding out, your HOR, and some coal and sulfur, and you got the Tackling Fuel

[vernal patrol]

yea im using all my turbo fuel rn

packing a bit of it and burning the rest

[trim vine]

Eyyy, got alil Tackling Fuel field going for power, eh?

[sullen gull]

I swear Colbalt is trolling at this point. How in your right mind do you think Turbo heavy is Inefficient? Without Heavy oil alt, I grant you, but, if you have both, how is just solgging off the best turbo alt any help?

[vernal patrol]

whats tackling fuel lol

[sullen gull]

Oh, right, everyone must go nuke. So much better. 🙄

[trim vine]

Its a joke from the water boy where we swapped out turbo for tackling cause its so strong

[vernal patrol]

okii

[dense violet]

electrode cbs are also very niche

[trim vine]

He aint wrong, without HOR recipe, its not the GREATEST, still viable, just not efficient

[dense violet]

huge consumption of oil for not great outputl. good if you only need a handful of them and have spare oil nearby

[vernal patrol]

im planning on using them for adaptive control units, i want to ship computers and circuits straight to the main factory

[dense violet]

it's not efficient with HOR 😛

[zenith pecan]

Electrode isn't so bad if you overproduce oil like I've done before, I prefer other recipes though.

[trim vine]

Nuclear is only for the true masochist

[sullen gull]

Again, I agreed that it required HOR alt.

[trim vine]

Oi?

Whats the better way? Genuinely curious

[dense violet]

hor -> diluted packaged -> base TF

[zenith pecan]

My last nuclear had 100 reactors and 0 radiation, it was a fun puzzle to work out.

[dense violet]

very simple and huge output

[trim vine]

no no, I mean, do you just do the plastic/rubber and use that HOR?

[sullen gull]

And Nuke is fine, if you want to create the 'larger' infrastructure. To say that that turbo heavy alt is inefficient is just dumb imo.

[dense violet]

I mean I guess? turbo heavy is very niche

[trim vine]

Again, a true masochist

[dusky relic]

How do I get more custom paint swatches?

[dense violet]

only real point in it imo is for a weapons factory and turbo ammo

[trim vine]

give me your basic flow for making turbofuel

[zenith pecan]

Untrue, but whatever 🤷‍♂️

[reef forge]

i hate encased industrial beams

[dense violet]

oil > HOR > diluted fuel > turbo

[prisma thicket]

The Heavy Oil Residue Alternate recipe is better than getting HoR as a byproduct

[trim vine]

(I just havent tried it, and it looks to be a very big project)

[sullen gull]

How is that 'more effiecient'? You are, again, creating MORE infrastructure....

[dusky relic]

Theyre so nice wdym

[zenith pecan]

Don't look at the entire project, break it down into its component industries, it is far more forgiving.

[trim vine]

Ahhhh, you add in the diluted fuel step, yeah, that does add a LOT more

[trim vine]

Exactly, I JUST got my "ALL THE BAUXITE" plant going

[naive pendant]

Ah man, turbo fuel alt chat. Who’s wrong?

[reef forge]

i hate figuring out how to automate them

[trim vine]

(see the screenshots channel)

[trim vine]

PIPES

[dense violet]

nuclear isn't bad either, and the base recipes are very easy. Very little piping

[trim vine]

ALL THE PIPES

[dusky relic]

2 alt recipes make them insanely easy

[prisma thicket]

Alternate recipes are a big help for that one, same with heavy modular frames later on.

[trim vine]

encased pipes make your life super easy

[sullen gull]

Cobalt must have a hell of a time with piping. They sure do hate it.

[reef forge]

damn guess i gotta grind hard drives

[zenith pecan]

I'm preparing for "all the bauxite" 🤣 , starting with a general bauxite highway, only 2400 is in the tunnels and another 600 will be when I complete the shaft, I already did an "all the sam" system as shown here #satisfactory-experimental message

[trim vine]

cause in theory, you can use JUST iron and concrete to make beams, with iron pipes and then add them and concrete, easy peasy

[reef forge]

guess i need iron pipe recipe as well

this should be fun

[trim vine]

I have no idea what I need sam for right now, so its filed under secondary priorities

(I know, matter conversion, but aint there yet)

[prisma thicket]

Iron Pipes, Encased Industrial Pipes, and if you're in that phase keep an eye out for Heavy Encased Frames as well

[zenith pecan]

With all the bauxite, matter conversion is liable to be a big part of later productions.

[trim vine]

Yuup, several alt recipes to make it super easy just to get a line going, get some wet concrete too and you're cooking with crisco

[dense violet]

eh, it's a bit overrated.
you need a mountain of iron to make it work which can really shrink down the final output of an area

[reef forge]

how does the wet concrete recipe work

[trim vine]

Oi?

How so?

Right now, they're just making ingots while I stress test it

[trim vine]

Water, Limestone, refiner

[zenith pecan]

Aluminium ingots will get the best returns from matter conversion.

[reef forge]

ohhhhhhh

i still gotta get to phase 3

i've spent all my time in phase 2 so far automating motors and finishing every milestone

[trim vine]

it is the second most efficient concrete recipe, but maybe even more so if you dont want to use rubber to make concrete

Wet:
120 Lime
100 Water
80 Concrete

Rubber Concrete:
100 Lime
20 Rubber
90 Concrete

[prisma thicket]

As Whosdad said, Water and Limestone into a refinery makes a lot of concrete for the limestone invested.

[zenith pecan]

Keep in mind that is only for ficsite but the amount of things that take trigons will soon add up.

[reef forge]

ig i should also get more power while im at it my motor factory took like 400w

[trim vine]

POWER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECT

[reef forge]

i only have 16 coal generators going rn

idk if thats enough

[trim vine]

-looks to the SE at Crater Lake-

Time to make the turbofuel fields

[prisma thicket]

Once you have your alternate recipes unlocked, it might be a good idea to look into combining your steel production lines, or at least Beams, Pipes and Encased Industrial Beams.

[trim vine]

was that for me?

[reef forge]

alr

[trim vine]

You can also produce Motors using ONLY iron as well

[zenith pecan]

Sorry yeah, processing all the bauxite opens that door.

[trim vine]

Mind if I shoot you a DM?

[zenith pecan]

I plan to be spamming singularity cells once I have the system going.

[prisma thicket]

You'll probably want double that at least going into phase 3, but once you're there you'll pretty quickly unlock fuel and fuel generators, which massively increase your power capabilities

[reef forge]

true but i like mixing multiple resources

[zenith pecan]

How can I be of assistance?

[reef forge]

alr tomorrow i'll double my power generation

i need to write a to-do list for this game omg

[trim vine]

Naturally, its more just that it CAN be done, and with you needing every scrap of copper at some point, it aint bad 😛

[wheat reef]

#screenshots message
How do I make this box look better? and what can i do with roof to un-flatten it?

[reef forge]

alr good to know

i can't wait to figure out oil stuff

[trim vine]

Build some towers and add a sink in the tower so the antennae are just visible, maybe add in some different height walls and such, a lot can be done

[prisma thicket]

I mean, it looks pretty good to me, better than my slab factories xD You should look in the Awesome Shop for some customization items that might suit your style.

[trim vine]

-looks sadly at MK2 pipes-

Me too

[wheat reef]

I'll add train station to it to load all the resources produced here and move to the desert

[prisma thicket]

Which desert? 😛

[wheat reef]

Northern

[reef forge]

my last save fell apart at the beginning of tier 3 because i didn't automate motors and i lost motivation to do anything 💀 thats why i started off my steel automation with motors

[dusky relic]

Rocky or dunes

[reef forge]

except now i only have motors automated and i need to start automating everything else

[tiny ermine]

What do y'alls heavy modular frame factories produce per minute?

[wheat reef]

They are different?

[trim vine]

Lemme go snag a screenshot of my steel mill

[reef forge]

0 because i dont have one

[tiny ermine]

Amazing, so I'm already ahead 😭

[reef forge]

my normal plain modular frame factory produces like 2 a minute

[dusky relic]

I just built mine. 3.75

[prisma thicket]

I usually go for 2 Manufacturers worth of Heavy Encased frames, so between 5-6 a minute.

[trim vine]

enough for modular engines and ACU's with a smiggen extra 😛

[dense violet]

having 48 - 64 coal gens before doing a decent fuel system is pretty normal 🙂 rule of thumb is just miner out 3-4 coal nodes and increase it every time yo uget a new belt

[tiny ermine]

Damn wtf

that has got to be like

more than 10 per minute

so like 80+ damn smelters 😭

[reef forge]

im not sure im smart enough to be able to play this game 😭

[gray ermine]

I’m going to pay to get a dedicated server host for me and my friends to play on. What are y’all‘s recommendations? I want cheap but still decent performance only 3 of us will be playing

[prisma thicket]

You can get better alternate recipes for making the raw metal ingots, like Iron alloy or Pure Iron, so there's not as many machines producing way more ingots per minute.

[tiny ermine]

Host yourself if you can

[tiny ermine]

Ahhh okay

because like I am doing a purely iron and limestone factory

so I have no copper at all

but I will definitely look into those alternate recipes for the ingots

[gray ermine]

If I host myself, will it be able to run 24 seven? Cause I’m kind of looking for something that can run so we can hop on a different times.

[prisma thicket]

Well Iron Alloy uses some copper in the foundry to put out a ton of Iron, that might not be for you. Pure Iron is a refinery recipe, so it just takes Iron ore and water.

[reef forge]

i was trying to make a concrete factory with the fine concrete alt but that requires like 600 limestone a minute am i cooked

[tiny ermine]

as long as you keep the server on, on your pc it will be good

[tiny ermine]

I'll probably do pure iron then

or at least do it if I make a second factory

[gray ermine]

I play on a laptop. Would that be able to host the server without it being super laggy?

[tiny ermine]

Oh on a laptop def not 😭

[gray ermine]

It’s a gaming laptop, but yeah it’s not very powerful lol

[dense violet]

yeah laptops, even when meant for gaming, wouldn't be a great choice

[gray ermine]

What dedicated host would you guys use then?

[dense violet]

maybe ask in #dedicated-servers or look up reddit posts about people's experiences with paid services? It's a fairly niche thing

[prisma thicket]

600 limestone per minute isn't terrible depending on where you're building it.

[gray ermine]

Oh didn’t even realize there was a channel for that mb

[trim vine]

Fine concrete kinda sucks ONLY because it takes silica (I hate getting the quartz places)

[reef forge]

its over in the grass fields right by the copper node every new player usually uses

at least im assuming every new player uses that node

[dense violet]

best bet is probably reviews on services. It's a fairly quiet channel

[prisma thicket]

Ooooo, yah, 600/minute of anything in grass fields might be a bit much, especially if you're still in phase 2

[reef forge]

im trying to get prepared for moving objects long distances cause i feel like i should be getting used to that so i made a conveyor highway 1200m to the area im going to make the factory

its not that far but its helping

[reef forge]

i mean theres 3 normal nodes not too far away and those with mk 2 miners are 360 limestone right there

theres a pure node not very far away and thats 240

360 + 240 is... 600

[trim vine]

I HIGHLY recommend you learn trains ASAP, I can tag you in a thread I had when I was figuring it out, it makes logistics fun, visually pleasing, and once the network is set up, its good to go forever

Just let me know if you would like me to

[reef forge]

alright bet

[prisma thicket]

Fair enough, and if you're willing to overclock some of those, you can hit 600 pretty easily. Just make sure you're power grid is up to it.

[reef forge]

is it bad though that the furthest i've gotten is only the literal beginning of phase 3 and i have 100 hours already

[prisma thicket]

Not at all

[reef forge]

or is that completely normal

[trim vine]

No, this game can be overwhelming if you look at things as whole

[reef forge]

well i think i only need the mk 2 miners

[trim vine]

instead of pieces

[reef forge]

i just need to make sure i dont overload my belts

[prisma thicket]

You go at your own pace in this game, so even if it takes you 600 hours to get out of phase 1, if you're having fun that's all that matters.

[reef forge]

i am having fun

this save is alot of fun because im doing stuff i usually never do

[prisma thicket]

Then you're doing it exactly right 😄

[reef forge]

i made a hypertube cannon and found some interesting things that i normally wouldn't have bothered finding

[atomic notch]

i found a cave ive never been in so that was cool

[reef forge]

i recently figured out you can pick up mini blue mushrooms in caves for mycelia

and you can chainsaw the blue mushrooms for more mycelia

100 hours in and i just learn this

[prisma thicket]

Lol I only figured that out like a week ago, and I have 700+ hours 😛

[wheat reef]

200 hours in and i just found i can open selector wheel with E

[boreal musk]

just go to swamp, tons of mycelia

[prisma thicket]

Unless you have enemy aggression on, then maybe don't go to the swamp lol

[wheat reef]

there are these bubble tea thingies

[reef forge]

risk of death too high

[trim vine]

-stares in nobelisks-

[reef forge]

-stares in oh yeah-

[boreal musk]

nothing of a nuke nobelisk cant fix

[prisma thicket]

Sure you wanna fight a bunch of elite stingers with nobelisks?

[trim vine]

how else do you fight them?

[prisma thicket]

They are only phase 2, so nuclear anything is a ways off

[dusky relic]

I've been taking them with my explosive rebar

[atomic notch]

i just play on passive

[wheat reef]

how do i transport 16 different resources with train? 16 freight cars or some other way?

[prisma thicket]

Well, I don't fight them, but I'd say rebar gun or the rifle if you have to.

[sly heart]

Stick the nobelisks to them after they land, then start slide jumping around

[boreal musk]

also, stinger is easier to deal with than alpha hogs with just blade runner
they have momentum, as long as you know how, they are easy even with just xeno basher

[trim vine]

make a train station for each product, and 3 cars for each 600/780 input, less if below that

[wheat reef]

a few more encounters and you'll learn to get nuke on them mid flight

[prisma thicket]

I have boomer reaction speed lol

[sly heart]

Fair

Just rebar then

[wheat reef]

so i need 16 different freights

damn

[trim vine]

Thats the "easy" way

The complicated, but not hard per se, is just make sure you route everything together properly at both ends

[prisma thicket]

If it's smaller quantities, you can easily do 3-4 items per train though.

[sly heart]

One day I'll figure out trains I swear
I'll stop making belt highways (even if they look cool)

[trim vine]

and yes, maybe add in like 3 engines to the ~16 cars, but you can do it

[trim vine]

I presume, they are making multiple stops?

[reef forge]

i want a rifle

shooting the hogs looks fun

[wheat reef]

I'd use one freight to multiple resources if i were sure they would get transported evenly

[sly heart]

I prefer bashing small hogs
3 hits

[wheat reef]

1 explosion

[prisma thicket]

Sulfur research in the MAM, though you'll need Phase 3 for the refineries to make Smokeless Powder.

[sly heart]

I use nobelisks for about everything else that isn't a small hog

[dusky relic]

I just do multiple trains instead

[trim vine]

Couple of questions:

Will the train make multiple stops to pick up the said resources OR will it be a point A to B type deal?

WHAT are you transporting?

[sly heart]

Turbo ammo for cliff/nuke hogs

[dusky relic]

Looks nicer

[sly heart]

After a stun rebar

[reef forge]

ah

[dusky relic]

#screenshots message

I still dont understand why this was so hard to kill

[prisma thicket]

It may have been a funky hitbox on the cliffside blocking some of your bullets.

[boreal musk]

you can hold C while hovering with jetpack, so the hatcher cant detect you

and you just bash it

[wheat reef]

from A to B, transporting concrete, quartz crystals, steel beams, encased beams, modular frames, reinforced plates, rotors, stators, motors, ai limiters, circuit boards, silica, cables, steel pipes, wires and copper sheets, iron sheets, iron rods and screws

[dusky relic]

Yeah I know, I just assumed I'd destroy it before they spawned more