satisfactory

[prisma thicket]

I think I'm gonna go have a nap, see if I feel different after lol

[tall lantern]

at worst, if you really want the nodes, build the new thing while the old one's running then just reroute the inputs

[atomic notch]

if you just start again somewhere else you can always come back later for resources

[left totem]

1 splitter -> 3 splitters (9 output) : using 7 of those outputs for more splitters, then only using the 7 last splitters' outputs

[tall lantern]

if you're doing that, may as well go the whole way, split into 27 and merge 7 back

[left totem]

truege

even though that doesn't change a thing and takes more space but sure

at this point you could just make a hundred and loop 80 back

[untold pagoda]

i want to hear your guys's opinion on best main base location

[left totem]

idk, I just stayed in greenhills

[tall lantern]

the entire world because you shouldn't, overall, have a main base

[left totem]

if you want to build a main cool decorated base, you can do it in the middle of the map

[tall lantern]

if you just mean space elevator and hub, then yeah doesn't really matter, you can either plonk 'em down where you start, or pick some nice spot to move to or even just pick 'em up and move 'em around with you like some nomad with a space elevator in their pocket

[untold pagoda]

hm, alright, thanks

[atomic notch]

just delete em and place when needed

unless ur still early game

then probably need em still

i usually stick the hub in a cave somewhere

[tall lantern]

think in more than half my saves they barely move from where they started

[atomic notch]

the blue crater lake cave is pretty cool spot for the hub tbh

[near bay]

So i managed to split the thing, ignore the ammount on the conveors took a lot of try and error to get the "highway" right #screenshots

[near quarry]

how much does the fuel powered gen produce

[leaden turret]

150mw, unless they changed it

full breakdown of fuel timings should be on the wiki page

[shrewd palm]

250 now

changed in 1.0

[latent prawn]

250 since 1.0

[azure swan]

Interesting. I can't seem to get satisfactorytools to produce a result when I ask to plan a turbofuel plant and say that we can't use sulfur. I've given it access to all recipes so I don't get why it isn't spitting out a turbo heavy fuel plan.

[latent prawn]

well, sulfur is needed for all variants of turbofuel, either directly or as compacted coal

[azure swan]

Oh I'm a dumbass...I just see this: and I see coal
#screenshots message

I guess my drones will be running on the simple stuff then. I can't be assed to drag sulfur all the way across the map

[latent prawn]

yeah, heavy turbofuel isn't very good

[azure swan]

I was just trying to avoid sulfur 😦

[wanton stag]

is there a way to change the patterns for roads to white?

like the markings

[iron kraken]

You cant avoid sulfer

[iron kraken]

You always need it🫡🫡🫡🫡

[iron kraken]

Coal is not too shaby

[azure swan]

Sure you can. Just use regular fuel.

[iron kraken]

...

Its quadrillion times less efficient

[azure swan]

It's infinitely more efficient if you are simply trying to power drones and they can make their round trip just fine with regular fuel...

Which is exactly what I'm doing.

I would have upgraded to jetfuel for fun if materials had been available within arms reach. Coal is nearby, sulfur is not so I'm going with regular fuel for this one small factory for powering a couple of drones.

[iron kraken]

What about nuclear fuel rods

[azure swan]

Could use them for the drones the only problem is the location of my drone bay at my nuke plant would make for some very long belts for the fuel rods that the fuel rods would stack up on, which I'd rather avoid.

So just going to make a cute lil fuel factory and be done with it quickly.

[iron kraken]

Any way

Its almost a new day here and havnt slept

So cya

[azure swan]

gn

[shrewd palm]

i think i might be about to cover half the rocky desert with trains alone

[prisma thicket]

O.o that's a lot of trains. What's the project?

[shrewd palm]

630GW nuclear plant

[prisma thicket]

Ahhhhh, that makes sense.

[shrewd palm]

i need 6k caterium and 5k limestone which i think are going to be the worst

everything else i should be able to get from this biome

[prisma thicket]

6k caterium per minute? Jeebus

[shrewd palm]

yeah its like half the map

and i dont even know where im going to get it from because im already using the more convenient nodes

[prisma thicket]

Ugh, that always sucks. Do you at least have mk. 3 miners and mk.6 belts?

[shrewd palm]

yeah

wouldnt be doing this otherwise

the 1200 belts are just so nice

[prisma thicket]

Well that's not so bad then, just 5 pure nodes xD

[shrewd palm]

can take a ton of items, split into anything you need pretty easily, and are pretty cheap too

[prisma thicket]

What material are they made from? I haven't finished phase 4 yet

[shrewd palm]

fiscite trigons + diamonds

sounds harder than it is

[prisma thicket]

Diamonds have like 4-5 alt recipes to make them right?

[shrewd palm]

yeah

im just using 2 pure nodes of coal lmao

[prisma thicket]

Wow, that seems really cheap for 1200 belts then, I really need to get those xD

Just trying to figure out the best set of recipes and a good location to start automating turbo motors 😦

[shrewd palm]

im gonna do mine in the red desert i think

just has a ton of nodes in it

i really need to get around to automating turbo motors and radio control units because phase 5 needs a lot 😭

[prisma thicket]

I have radio control units automated already, though I think I need to rework that facility because I have some new alt recipes that might streamline a few things and cause fewer issues.

[shrewd palm]

i almost have radio control units done i think

as well as heat sinks

i did all the aluminum and now im just trying to actually do stuff with it

[prisma thicket]

Heat sinks are kinda like the screws of aluminum, you can just incorporate making them into the production line of whatever end product you need, since they aren't used for any buildings. I don't even think you can hand craft anything with them.

[shrewd palm]

yeah

the plan is to make i think about 3-400/min and then just train it wherever i want

will probably simplify things because then i wont need to run rubber + aluminum everywhere too

[prisma thicket]

Fair enough.

Yah, they are only used in 4 recipes total xD 2 of which are cooling systems base and alt recipe lol

They are worth a lot of sink points though, 2804 each

[honest flume]

I’m in a dilemma. I haven’t played in a while and I want to start a new game. But should I wait for the 1.1 release or play in beta now? Are betas known to seamlessly transition to release?

[prisma thicket]

If you're determined to play in 1.1 but don't want any issues, probably best to wait for it to release, though we still have no idea when that is.

[honest flume]

That is not the answer I wanted to hear therefore I’m going to pretend I didn’t read it

[green fiber]

usually, once an update releases, its always been easy and relatively safe to go from an older version of the game to a newer version
(that includes experimental)

though, as always:
Back up your saves

[honest flume]

Now that’s what I’m talking about

[green fiber]

cant always know what kind of bugs might suddenly happen in EXP

[honest flume]

New save on beta it is then, boys!

Oh yeah

[distant hill]

🤔 Sometimes the 'auto line up' for pipe splitters doesn't seem to work. I've never found a good solution for that. I don't know why it works "sometimes"

[honest flume]

Well I’d be playing a new save

[acoustic sierra]

when doing phase 3 componets guys, do you just make the minimum 1 part per minute?

i see if i tryi to make multiple, it require a butt ton of iron

[wet shoal]

game has difficulties to align splitters and stuff to 1/2 off or offgrid stuff if you build on foundations

I usually go as close as possible and just nudge till the default belt can attach

[distant hill]

Work around appears to be build another splitter super close to the pipe then you can line it up using auto align 🤔 Cest la vie

[prisma thicket]

Is it just me or is Grassy fields biome not great for water access?

[shrewd palm]

i know that the line showing alignment disapears after a few foundations, but outside of that ive never had any problems with pipe junctions

[wet shoal]

Its not great for a lot of stuff

Especially not for being a central hub

Because its not central

[shrewd palm]

i have it as my hub

[wet shoal]

Toucher of grass confirmed

[shrewd palm]

abundance of bad nodes means i cna use those for basic materials i dont really need in high quantities

hypertubes make distances irrelevant

[wet shoal]

Yeah I mean you can have your basic stuff made there

No need to say or return there for every shitty thing tho

[shrewd palm]

i think ive got almost every node in the biome dedicated to basics there

[wet shoal]

Hub is better located where you currently build, in my humble opinion

[prisma thicket]

Yah, not planning a central hub, just going to remake my "basics" factory here, but it's going to be tough to get enough water to use refinery recipes for stuff.

[shrewd palm]

[insert massive pipeline from the waterfall here]

[prisma thicket]

Lol I suppose that is one option. How is transporting water by train?

[shrewd palm]

iirc trains are very bad compared to pipes for fluid transport

[white dawn]

Nah, liquid transport by trains is A+

Whether packaged or otherwise

[prisma thicket]

Definitely not packaging and unpacking a buttload of water xD

[white dawn]

gasses can apparently be kind of problematic because they don't play well with buffers (I don't have personal experience with that, though). And also gasses compress down quite nicely when packaged, so packaging those for transport is generally recommended

But yeah, for liquids, just gotta make sure to buffer the input/output properly

[prisma thicket]

Oh for sure, a buffer/storage container is part of any train station I plan out.

[jolly garnet]

Will Satisfactory eat more performance the further I progress in the game? Besides ram my laptop is defintely on the higher end of temps/usage I personally like so just wondering (70-75 degrees celsius undervolted)

[white dawn]

Yep, as you build more and more, the main factory tick needs to do more and more per cycle

Distributing your factories across the map (instead of centralizing) can help with GPU load but the increasing CPU load will be present no matter what

[lime ermine]

I have three trains moving water to my nuclear power plant with no problems, and they have to loop around the entire map

[white dawn]

(that distinction might not be as clear-cut as I phrased it, but that's my general understanding of it anyway)

[jolly garnet]

Pretty much what I was looking for ty

I'm guessing I shouldn't worry to much with my temps I'm sure that it shouldn't go up 10 degrees but eh ya never know

[prisma thicket]

Awesome lol then I think I can manage a few trains running back and forth across the grassy fields to keep the refineries running.

[lime ermine]

Just remember to add signals

[prisma thicket]

Oh no, I don't bother with that, too lazy, I just do individual lines with doube headed trains lol

Anyone know if the slope on the east side of the waterfall lake in grassy fields is something a train could climb?

[jolly garnet]

How does on flip a conveyor lift xD

[stiff wolf]

with trucks, i have a truck going from oil to collect fuel and unloading it at a different stop for a fuel station. If i have a truck going from a factory to collect plastic can i have it stop at the fuel station but not unload the plastic?

[prisma thicket]

I believe you're looking for the R key by default

[acoustic sierra]

i just ran into this too. i thought i had my train station built on the grid...apparently not.. had to accept the fact i got a crooked belt...lol

[prisma thicket]

Man I love the placement of some of the collectibles in this game. Sure some are in annoying spots like surrounded by uranium chunks, but there's others like this sloop I just picked up just sitting in the sand in the dune desert xD

[prisma thicket]

For anyone wondering, the slope out of the waterfall lake in grassy fields is just SLIIGHTLY too steep for a train a a few points. So either build your own ramp or build train stations at the top level 🙂

[stiff wolf]

is there a way to not have dead locks in trucks?

[cold fable]

i just resource sank 6 extra propulsion rockets, and now my resource sink thinks i'm producing 7 million points per minute XD

[wet shoal]

@young crest #screenshots message
Since the production traces the consumption, even with some buffer between, I can only assume you still have bioburners on your grid.

[young crest]

I do. But they are all empty

I think ive fixed it now though. Some of my coal plants werent getting coal fast enough

[dense violet]

don't have the return route cross head on

[tall schooner]

I'm trying to set up a nitrogen harvesting area, the node has 6 pure outlets but the pressurizer is saying I only get 1500 out of it. If I had all 6 on it, would I still only get 5 outlets worth of nitrogen?

Oh, it's 4 pure and 2 normal. Nevermind.

[frail sleet]

it has the least water out of any biome somehow, even the deserts xd

there's a big lake though in the north, and ocean off the west if you go far enough

[prisma thicket]

Yah, I decided to use the north western lake by the coal nodes, and haul the water up by train rather than pipes. Got over 40 extractors on the lake ready to go should I need that much lol

[prisma thicket]

I have a question about headlift: is the provided amount by extractors cumulative with other extractors or is it just a flat 10m no matter how many extractors are attached to the same line?

[leaden ether]

Not cumulative no.

[prisma thicket]

Alright, then I shall need pumps 😛 thanks

[leaden ether]

Yup and same with pumps, like two pumps next to each other wont add. Need one and then at around 20 meters upwards need a second if necssary

[prisma thicket]

Fair enough, Though I only use mk. 2 pumps (I like the look and sound of them better xD )

[wary blaze]

wait does using mk2 pumps with mk1 pipes work

[leaden ether]

Huh I don't know if I have mk2 pumps. I know I've used mk1 pumps on mk 2 pipes.

[prisma thicket]

If you have mk.2 pipes, you have mk.2 pumps, they provide 50m of headlift

[naive pendant]

The sensible way to handle fluid pumps is to build in strict height levels. Say extractors on level 1, refinery on a level above. Then a single mk 2 pump can handle the lift easily and robustly. Btw I put my pumps at the top of an 8 m wall like when pumping between floors.

[leaden ether]

Now I have to look to see how I missed having mk2 pumps -.-

[prisma thicket]

I just put my pumps at the base of the pipe that needs lift, just before or just after the elbow joint depending on space.

[warped cove]

if there is one I dont want any hints how to get it but is there ever an upgrade ( like in the MAM or something ) that adds another back slot

I just unlocked the parachute after unlocking the jetpack and both are cool and I dont wanna give either up

[prisma thicket]

Only one slot, need to hotswap if you want to use both

[azure swan]

Go to build a mk1 pump and press e.

[warped cove]

alright, thanks

[azure swan]

Being able to hotkey swapping gear would be sooo nice. Late game there's a very regular need to swap between jetpack and hoverpack

[prisma thicket]

For double input machines like refineries, if I want to manifold 2 rows together facing each other, which is better to align, center of the machine, dry input or fluid input?

[azure swan]

I've done either way. I think the pipes are a little more flexible towards making weird turns. Probably easier to align the solids

It might also depend on what recipe you're working with cause if one material ends up being a really high quantity you may want to not manifold both the sides together anyways.

[prisma thicket]

Both are low quantity enough that I can do one belt and one pipe with no troubles 🙂

[latent prawn]

no extra back slot, but the number keys can change what is in it quickly with your inventory open

[prisma thicket]

Man, the fact that the spacing between pipes is different if you stack pipeline junctions vs stackable pipeline supports is so aggravating

[prisma thicket]

I know pumps are specifically for headlift, but can you use them to increase/maintain the flow rate out of a train station? Like if I were to bring in a fully loaded tank of 1600 water, could a pump ensure that it's all unloaded in less than 3 minutes? Into a buffer at least?

[frail sleet]

Pumps don't affect flow rate. If you don't need the headlift, they're no different than a valve.

[lament niche]

doesnt it unload at 600/m anyways

[prisma thicket]

Ahhh damn, alright. I just know I've had train station fluid buffers not fully unload when there was plenty of room in the buffer outside the station.

Or would that be a headlift problem? Not able to reach the top of the buffer without lift?

[frail sleet]

With an industrial buffer (or some elevation gain), maybe. I have not used buffers for trains because packaging was simpler/easier IMO

[prisma thicket]

I just don't want to deal with packaging and unpacking that much water at a time. I need almost 2000/minute

[frail sleet]

the pible says that you need a pump to fill a large buffer (over ~83%)

unless it's several meters under the feed pipe

[prisma thicket]

Ahhh ok, so I will want a pump then. Thank you. Also: Pible? This seems like something I might want to know about

[frail sleet]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[sturdy mural]

I might have broke multiple safety, efficiency and rail rules, but i made a trian loop :3

and it works!!

[prisma thicket]

Congrats! I'm attempting to do the same myself rn xD

[dense violet]

these are some tested fluid buffer systems for trains. #design-and-architecture message

#design-and-architecture message

because freight cars can carry more and you can have mk6 belts feeding it instead of 600 pipes you can generally move more packaged fluids even with having a car to take back the empties

[mossy moon]

can you tell me where to go to learn the basics of this stuff. bcs im planning on making one and i want to make it right

[dense violet]

well this was made ages ago by a friend - the junctions on the sides, I believe, are based of VIP junctions.
and this works essentially like having an ISC with 1 belt in, 2 belts out. You just have to make adjustments for fluids being bi directional

while I'm sure you can make them in different layouts I'd probably just pick one of these and blue print it

like, you probably could have 2 pipes outs, connected to two buffers, that then merge to one pipe with a pump keeping directionality, but these are tidier

[sturdy mural]

whats yo train that you're doing

[prisma thicket]

4 trains on 1 loop, picking up and deliverying 2000 water/min to my "basics" base in the grassy fields. Going to make all the items from iron plates to motors in large quantities so I never have to touch it again.

And I refuse to package and unpackage that much water and have that many empty canisters just to run the system xD

[sturdy mural]

oh 4 trains dang, yeah that's a bit more complex

[dense violet]

you only have to make them once you know? Also generally easier to move the solids to the liquids

[prisma thicket]

Not much space in the location of the water, and I have a nice area picked out near all the other resources, it's just the water.

[prisma thicket]

Actually since the loop is a decent length, I got away with just putting 4 block signals down, so each train can only move into each section after the train ahead of it has left. Made the 2 stations their own sections and the 2 open stretches of the loop 2 more blocks.

[sturdy mural]

oo

btw, do we have like
small lights
i have like a "underground tunnel" area and i don't need the whole aah foundation big lamp set

[prisma thicket]

You can use signs as lights, clear the text, turn up the emission strength and change it to the colour of light you want. The challenge is placing them how you want them 😛

[dense violet]

another way is to partially hide the larger lights behind beams to get shapes you want

or other objects really

[sturdy mural]

i made a bit iof light

#screenshots message you guys think thats enough light?

[sturdy mural]

hmm so i just rebuild a bit of a factory, and made a train line with quartz

but idek what did i make it for

thats fun

[spice patio]

5600MT/s is the spec on 2-slot MBs.
4400MT/s is the spec on 4-slot MBs with 2 sticks (hidden into actual spec document that was moved behind login wall when the instability issue blew up).

And how many people buy MBs with just two memory slots?

Which are either the crappiest available with worst chipsets, or top of the line OC MBs with insane prices.

Intel has been lying by omission for all their DDR5 support "specs" that they publish on ARK and marketing.
And even before with DDR4 it was always "Up to", where it only applied to using two sticks, and the speeds for multiple sticks per channel were hidden in those actual spec docs.

Same page of the spec for 12th gen as example. As that 13th/14th gen doc was moved behind login wall, while the older ones weren't.
https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/ipla/software-development-platforms/client/platforms/alder-lake-desktop/12th-generation-intel-core-processors-datasheet-volume-1-of-2/010/processor-sku-support-matrix/

S is the desktop CPUs.

[leaden ether]

It would be really nice to have like a neon light bar that you could place like the beams. Then set the color of course, could use it to outline bits of architecture to really good effect.

[prisma thicket]

Signs do that

[sturdy mural]

Good lord
i was stuck for so long i got 63 coupons

62*
but with the 8 i got its 70 0_0

[leaden ether]

The signs are pretty fat, I mean they can be used that way of course, but I'd love something no thicker than like a fluorescent tube in width and be able to easly place long strings of it along centerlines of pillars and such like you can with the beams.

[sturdy mural]

used up 67 just now
Customizer and Foundations Tabs my beloved

[sturdy mural]

FICSMAS lights cable

[leaden ether]

I havent been around long enough to get that 😄

Now there are things similar to what I was describing in mods, but they are single object placed items though maybe you can zoop them... Kind of want to wait till I complete the main part of the game and 1.1 releases before going mod crazy

[sturdy mural]

yeah its around december

IF ficsmas is like every year guaranteed

and it has the same rewards
and works the same

make sure you got some iron/copper ore patches ready iirc

[leaden ether]

Huh there is a mod to make any object emissive, so I could use beams as trim/accents to architecture and make them emissive. Might look pretty nice.

[sturdy mural]

go underground and place a worklight :trollface:

whuh

i think i found a jetpack glitch

[coarse geode]

What comes after coal power?

[copper pine]

oil

/fuel

[coarse geode]

What do I need for that?

[copper pine]

the oil pumps and a whole proces for fuel making

also you might hate heavy residue

[coarse geode]

Why

[fallen orbit]

Just unlocked hoverpack guys!
Phase 3 complete

What is the range of hoverpack to catch electricity?

[last jackal]

I actually can't even get enough of HOR.

[sturdy mural]

anyone knows the name of the soundtrack thats uhh
sounds kind of like a cat?? and also has like slap tubes too (like the hollow tubes of diffirent lengths that you slap for diffirent notes)

[last jackal]

Legit suffering because I don't have the HOR alt yet.

[fallen orbit]

You only really need 1 hard drive for hor yk

[sturdy mural]

i personally just set up an oil extractor and shoved it into rubber
and sinked the rubber

[last jackal]

Practically need to be right next to a power pole. Can hover... uh... about 1~1.2 meters away from the pole?

[fallen orbit]

Hm alr

Thx

[last jackal]

If you mean to just reload until you get the HOR alt, that's even more boring than just cheating in 100 hard drives and going through all of it.

[fallen orbit]

Man the way I rushed phase 3 after getting hmfs and computers and vfms automated is crazy lol

[fallen orbit]

I got it really easy xd like 3rd roll

[last jackal]

Contrats, your luck is great. Good for you.

[fallen orbit]

Yea

Made such a spaghetti getting the aluminium to unlock hoverpack lol
It's just temporary tho

I first planned on automating modular engines aswell but ended up manually getting them

[mossy moon]

no?

[last jackal]

Felt like that to me at least.

[mossy moon]

its like idk 8 foundations is it?

[last jackal]

?

[sturdy mural]

i think i fell victim of trying to automate these lol
my brian just fries if there's more than 3 total items in the crafting
like high speed connector seems very hard
but its just a board and some quickwire and cable 😭

[last jackal]

By "foundations" are you saying across the large foundation block?

[mossy moon]

the range of the hover pack

idk i remmebr smth like 64 meters (8 foundations horisontaly) but that might be way over or under the actual distance

[last jackal]

I really think we aren't thinking of the same thing here because the hover pack's charging range being THAT long is just nonsense.

[fallen orbit]

Do you mean you automate most of the stuff or

[mossy moon]

wdym charging? the hover pack dosent have a internal battery or anythign

[last jackal]

Unless the charging range has been massively buffed since 1.0?

[mossy moon]

the range you can fly and hover around is what i think we were talking about

[mossy moon]

what charging rate?

[last jackal]

You know, let me just check.
And yes I know it doesn't have an internal battery.

[iron kraken]

Check air 💀💀💀💀💀????

[sturdy mural]

yeah like computers
still didnt figure it out
199.5h btw

[iron kraken]

I have more

[last jackal]

Wh.

[mossy moon]

i have no idea what you are talkign about but the only range thing related to the hover pack is how far you can hover from a power source

[last jackal]

You know I do guess the hover range has been massively buffed since 1.0

Since I very surely remember you can't fly this far from a power pole before.

[mossy moon]

yeah but since when was it 1 meter

[mossy moon]

it would be actualy useless if it was that close

[south sinew]

you can be about 60m away

[last jackal]

Are you taking a figurative 1m for a literal 1m.
I'm rather positive I had to lay down quite a lot before 1.0

[south sinew]

with the mk3 blueprint designer, a power pole at the bottom can cover you hoverpacking at the top

[fallen orbit]

You couldn't figure out how to automate computers? What phase r you on

[mossy moon]

you cant say 1m and have it not mean 1m, didnt sound like an exaggeration bcs you said 1.2 which was kinda specific

1meter is 1/8 of a foundation

[sturdy mural]

currently doing 3 i think

like just unlocked trains

also its not that i can't figure out

its that i see more than 3 items required and my brain short circuits

[atomic notch]

oh no dude im gettin crazy ideas again

gonna make pet coke for early oil power, instead of fuel generators

can run 19.2 coal gens off like 60 oil if i sloop the pet coke

[fallen orbit]

Have you tried satisfactory production calculator? It helped me alot

I have a 10/m computers factory
I just bring plastic from the sea shore refineries with trains and rest is at one place

[silk current]

So, is there a Suggestions/Ideas page or channel I am not seeing, because I got some good ones 😄

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[lament shoal]

I can't find a screenshot on the internet. Please send me a notification about the power outage 🙏

[wary blaze]

chat i exploded a rock and 2 huge stingers came out and i tried running away but it was lagging so much then idied of fall damage

should i invest in a rifle

[coarse geode]

my water pumps have power and sit on pipes but they dont work any idea

[craggy anchor]

I just unlocked fuel powered generators and I'm curious if there's any reason to keep using the coal one generator. Finally I don't need to use coal for powering my base, so I have more resources and overall I don't see any cons in dropping coal power.

[wary blaze]

i kept mine because i like having more power but if you can make a huge fuel gen area then u can ditch the coal

[craggy anchor]

Okay

Personally I just tried getting the coal power as fast as possible and kept my factory small at the beginning

with research

I'm not sure when

wait

tier 2

[boreal musk]

phase 2 tier 3

[craggy anchor]

oh yeah

[boreal musk]

you can only semi automate them

u still need to manually gather leaves and woods

[craggy anchor]

good question lol

Well I had the same problem few hours ago because I'm also having only my first playthrough and I feel like at the start it's quite annoying but after coal power it isn't a problem for like next few hours

[silver rivet]

Hey uh, I noticed that 1.0 made changes to node placement in the world. Are further changes like that expected in 1.1?

[leaden turret]

none announced

[craggy anchor]

I know

try making some building to automate what you need for research and for space elevator and then just gather fuel till it's finished ig?

You've got the chainsaw?

that also makes it faster to get fuel

Well getting this will make your life easier

though it isn't perfect yet by any means

[zenith pecan]

I have more tunnels to build 😄

[sturdy mural]

for power, if you're not at coal, get a bunch of biomass burners
and fill them with the processed biomass

Get a chainsaw, start cutting, and processing into biomass
||and if you have slops then you're able to keep bio up to oil lmao||

[fallen orbit]

Just finished phase 3 about time to cleanup some stuff
Gonna colour code power lines the main towers travelling power will be black and the ones doing connections throughout a specific area will be orange

Next factory probably will be aluminium

[potent berry]

@nocturne axle What do you mean with "When?" on #screenshots message

@nocturne axle - If i get what you mean with "when" i uploaded my first blueprint on SCIM "Feb 2, 2023, 3:07:25 PM"

Today i have 500+ blueprints, 5 Megaprints, 4 blueprint mod packs and everything is free, made for the community ❤️

Hope this explain "when" i got those hours

[sturdy mural]

you can color wires?

[fallen orbit]

I meant power towers

[sturdy mural]

oh the poles
you gave me a fun idea for a sec

[livid heath]

Guys is there any decorational foliage by any chance? I kinda wanna make one of those center building gardens where the middle of the building is kind of a greenhouse or garden of some sorts but idk how i would be able to do so ....

[ashen belfry]

If you scale it big enough, you could build your own plants with poles etc 🤔

Some creative building

[coarse geode]

help my waterpipes dont work, theyre full with water but my coal plant dont fill up

i have pumps everywhere

and it still wont fill up

[zenith pecan]

Are the pumps powered, and are they pointed in the right direction, ideally, post screenshots of the setup in #1038092680493801533

[coarse geode]

everythings powered

the pumps are working

but nothing arrives in the coal plant

[zenith pecan]

I've actually had a pump pointed in the wrong direction once which brought a huge bauxite refinery to its knees.

We really could do with screenshots though.

[livid heath]

I thought of smth else .... Putting the space elev in the middle>:]

[ashen belfry]

Ohh I see

There isn't any decorations regarding foliage. Sadly. Cuz Ficsit doesn't care about it. It only cares about saving the earth

[livid heath]

Time to wait till fixmas for the trees

[wary blaze]

chat i just started phase 4 and im losing my shit

i think i need to move my base out of grass fields

[quick sky]

huh, so automating computers basically just requires plastic and copper and energy 🤔

[wary blaze]

yeah jts actually p easy

yk what isnt easy

mainbasing in grass fields

[quick sky]

you would think that a computer would be somewhat more difficult to make than a square block with stuff stuck onto it (heavy modular frame)

[wary blaze]

youd think a computer would be easier ti make then rifle components

tf u mean heavy oil residue

im actually contemplating making a new save i cant with this shit

[south sinew]

Depends on what materials the frame is made of

[quick sky]

iron, coal, rock 🧠

I should make a train that goes around the whole entire map carrying every basic resource, perfectly distributing them according to demand

[prisma viper]

does dimensional depot uploader work on assemblers and stuff or only crafting stations?

[south sinew]

only for personal use

[wary blaze]

that would be busted ngl

[prisma viper]

oh wait can you extract like specific stuff on it via converyor belt?

[south sinew]

primarily, building things, although you can also withdraw materials manually into your inventory and use them from other stuff

[wary blaze]

no theres no output

[south sinew]

No, you can't export automatically

[prisma viper]

oh alr thx

[south sinew]

the main use of DD uploading is for construction materials

it can also buffer stuff for use in MAM/hub tiers

[prisma viper]

btw whats the best way to kill stingers in early game im tryna get some strange alien matter but theres aton in the way

[wary blaze]

bomvs

or just tank them one by one

[prisma viper]

i only have rebar gun rn tryna complete phase 2

[wary blaze]

whack em with the upgraded stick

[prisma viper]

xenobasher?

[south sinew]

rebar isn't great against small targets, the xenobasher is easier

[wary blaze]

rebar gun aint that useful really especially with stingers

[south sinew]

the small ones don't do so much damage if you don't face like 10+ at once

[prisma viper]

oh alr

[wary blaze]

most use i got out of the gun is stun rebar

[south sinew]

just run around and try to smash a couple at a time

and make sure you have the blade runners

[prisma viper]

whats blade runners

[south sinew]

leg upgrade you can make from quartz

makes you run faster, jump higher, etc

[nocturne axle]

When? As in when are going to go play 'survival'? I thought that you only played SF for the designs/blueprints.
Keep up the good work with all of them.

[potent berry]

The Day i am going to play Survival, is the day i leave my home.
Cheers ❤️ I am off chat again. Take care

[prisma viper]

is there a way to automate medical inhalers or does it have to be manual

[south sinew]

sadly no, there does not seem to be any way to automate their production

[narrow briar]

is there a place to get blueprints ?

[sturdy mural]

xenobash them
2 shots them

[coarse geode]

what uses does caterium have?

[quick sky]

makes quickwire

quickwire makes "electronic" parts

if you look at the caterium research chain, you can find things such as smart splitters and homing bullets

[neat marlin]

what would be a good location to build my factory if I just unlocked coal

[quick sky]

in a funky cave with glowy mushrooms

[neat marlin]

huh

[mortal ginkgo]

I think what he means is that these two things are not connected. Game has no dynamic events that could potentually destroy a power line so even if your Coal Generators are at the other side of the map, it will work.

And since you unlocked coal you can use Tractors etc to move stuff around to a degree other than using belts.

[neat marlin]

oooohhh alr

ive never used coal before, so im new to this part of the game

[mortal ginkgo]

You will use Coal for production lines eventually as well so you can either do a long conveyor belt system to get them to where your Iron stuff being made, or use Tractors.

Truck Stations can fuel tractors via coal too so its rather easy to transfer coal with them.

[quick sky]

Yeah I've always had my main power plants away from my base

power is the easiest thing to transport, just wire em up

[hidden sparrow]

#screenshots message 10 fps gaming, my laptop is burning but worth it

[prisma viper]

nah the big one

[hidden sparrow]

@mortal ginkgo i kinda forgot why i do this ngl

[sturdy mural]

for the big one

lure it away

they LOVE jumping at you

[prisma viper]

ye and theres 2

[prisma viper]

btw where did you find strange alien matter

satisfactory map wont work for me its not accurate

[clever pier]

i leave the big stingers alone until I have the hover pack, just go around them

because with the hoverpack if you hover at max weight over a big tower power they can't reach you. and you can just drop bombs until they die

[sturdy mural]

you're at the plains a the bottom?

[clever pier]

especially the green ones that spit poison gas

[prisma viper]

im on northern forest

[sturdy mural]

eait its not??

show it in DMs
maybr you look not whrre you should

[prisma viper]

im on the exact point where it says it has strange alien matter

and some are underwater

[sturdy mural]

show the spot
in dms

[clever pier]

its in a cave

look for the entry point where there is two iron ore nodes a limestone and a coal all near each other

[prisma viper]

ohhh alr

which coords

[clever pier]

I don't think any of the SAM is on the surface.... its either in caves or way up high on a hard to reach tower

[prisma viper]

same

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say yes, since Coal is the first time you fully automate power generation

[prisma viper]

ye

so u dont rely on biomass generators

[mortal ginkgo]

Never forget that real alpha 100% pure males don't even use grass to power their factories. They use their SHEER WILL POWER.

[dense violet]

sprint for about 8 minutes punching 10,000 leaves.
turn to solid biomass
this should get you to coal pretty easily

[tall lantern]

yeah that's what the coal's for

[dense violet]

haven't you automated everything yet?

also make yoru coal power near water and coal

[clever pier]

its usually easier to build the power plants where the water is

and bring the coal to the water

my first power plant in this run has a 300 meter belt from the coal to water cause thats the closest coal

if you're lucky there is a few places where the coal is right next to water

[raw vector]

Is there any good guide anywhere about which resources are good to be paired close to one another and which is not importnat and can be just shipped in... I'm thinking of starting a huge Oil refinary base up north where there are a lot of oil nodes, but there is no sulfur or bauxite nearby and they are gonna be needed to be shipped... is this like a good idea, or are there any headaches I'm not seeing with this plan?

[south sinew]

it's a lot easier to ship solids than fluids, so building things that need fluids near the fluid deposits is generally a good idea

[raw vector]

oh ok, good to know!

[south sinew]

that being said, I don't recall aluminium processing requiring oil

[tall lantern]

might be one of the more uncommonly-used alts? but yeah the normal methods definitely don't

yeah electrode scrap uses coke

[torn forge]

Wait guys if I remove my space elevator and place it somewhere else would that work or do I have to do everything over

[tall lantern]

freely moveable

same with the HUB

[neat marlin]

If I had a world created before the newest updates do I get to use the new content automatically or would I have to make a new world

[tall lantern]

you get it all, though depending on how old your save is, the changes might break parts of your factories

[neat marlin]

hmm ok

I think I made it when 1.0 came out or the update before that

[tall lantern]

if it's just 1.0 to 1.1 then that just adds stuff and doesn't change existing stuff

[neat marlin]

alr cool

also, how does coal and steam stuff work?

[tall lantern]

fair, 1.0 changed quite a bit so if it was pre-1.0 it may better to restart

[neat marlin]

I could just figure it out on my own but a little tip in the right direction would be good

[tall lantern]

steam?

[neat marlin]

is there a way to know

[tall lantern]

tbh if you're that early on and it's been that long I'd probably just restart regardless

[neat marlin]

it said something about steam powering the coal generators in the item description

[tall lantern]

water + coal = power

[neat marlin]

alr

[neat marlin]

alr maybe Ill just restart.

I havent played the game in a long time until like this week so it will probably be better anyways

[fallen orbit]

First ever aluminium factory guys idk how much aluminium ingots to automate for the first time any recommendations?

[leaden ether]

I think 60 was like the suggested minimum for completing requirements, I did 120 because 120 was basically as easy as 60.

[fallen orbit]

How much bauxite is required for 120?

[tall lantern]

would depend on your recipes

chuck it into a planner

[leaden ether]

120 bauxite, 120 water, 60 quartz 60 coal for basic recipies

[sour pilot]

more is better, aluminum production is one of the most used in late game. but because it's your first build, i recommend not to maximize it full scale, would be easier to do it later with mk5 belts and other new stuff

[leaden ether]

Yeah the Satisfactory Tools by default tells you to use a piece of very late game machinery if you ask it to design an aluminum factory. So I just did a fairly simple one to get though the initial requirements and will be redoing it later I think.

[tall lantern]

you can turn buildings off, that's the easy way to get that bugger off there early on

The way Tools weighs resources sometimes makes it use that instead of just using the normal resources

[leaden ether]

Yeah, that's how I learned that you can turn off machines and recipies. I was like what is this machine? I don't have this machine! 😄

[fallen orbit]

Yea looking at my pure bauxite node I can squeeze out I think 420 aluminium ingots per min
My math could be entirely wrong that's my estimate

[silk rose]

blender ig

[tall lantern]

nah, later game

[leaden ether]

It default wants to use the converter.

[silk rose]

ahahahhaha

fair enough

[white dawn]

What I generally do is: essentially max out a bauxite node for ingots, and send 'em all to a sink. Then as other factories need aluminum products (sheets/casings/heatsinks/tanks), I add that processing in and set up the specific export. Over time the amount of ingots being sunk shrinks, until eventually the aluminum's basically tapped out, which means that it's time to build another aluminum plant somewhere else

On my 1.0 save I think I had like 6 aluminum plants by the end of the game

[sour pilot]

anyway, ficsit ingots alu recipe is still the best for most of the cases

[fallen orbit]

Tbh rn i really don't need alot of aluminium i think am just gonna extract only 60 aluminium ingots worth of bauxite it is very low but i wont have to get more silica

[left totem]

at first I did 60 alclad sheets and 40 casings per min

[white dawn]

Honestly the amount of machines you build for aluminum tends to favor utilizing at least a pretty big chunk of the bauxite nodes

[grim scaffold]

I'm creating 625m of ||dark matter residue|| and I wanna get rid of it. is there any way to transport more than 600m or should I just underclock a little?

[white dawn]

Since there's fluid recycling and stuff involved, IMO it's nearly always simpler to sort of over-build ingots than having to go back later to repeatedly build more and more ingots

[grim scaffold]

nvm I need to underclock anyway

[white dawn]

I tend to advise against centralization and "overbuilding," but for Aluminum Ingots specifically, IMO it's nearly always the best option

But do what you like! :D I'm headed AFK; enjoy the build, whatever you decide. :)

[fallen orbit]

Got 60 aluminium ingots per min producing now I think it'll be enough for me to get started on mk5s then I'll get 240 aluminium running

Is there a way to run aluminium ingots production without producing silica seperately?

[boreal musk]

pure aluminum alt

[rancid turret]

the sloppy alumina and pure aluminium ingot alts are your friend

[dense violet]

there isn't really a 'guide' since with alt rcipes there's all sorts of combos.

make a plan for a factory with recipes and scout out potential sites

[stuck escarp]

dunno if this is the right channel so sorry if it isnt i will relocate if need be. my game keeps crashing with a UObject limit error when placing blueprints. my save isnt very big and i dont think im over the limit and i can place building normally without it crashing (ive built an entire factory since it crashed and it still crashes) is this a known bug with a fix or am i an outlier

[dense violet]

best to make a qna post with crash logs

and what your cpu, gpu ect are

[stuck escarp]

yeah i made a quick post but i didnt put much effort into it cus i didnt have much time

might delete it and redo after ive done some testing

[modest smelt]

can get achievments on 1.1 experimental?

[lime ermine]

Yes

[modest smelt]

yipeeee

[leaden ether]

It seems to be some kind of object leak. I've only gotten it once and it was after placing a single assembler, though I had been building all day long, traveling around the map etc. for about 8 hours that day. Restarting "fixed" it for the time being but I think the longer you run the program, the more you build or travel the map, it "leaks" objects till that UE list maxes out. Not sure how long it takes between it happening to you but restarting the game now and then might prevent it for the time being. (Also saw a way to increase that object limit on the net, with the caveat that it might affect FPS)

[stuck escarp]

yeah ive noticed that its more likely to crash than just stutter when the games been open for a while

and yeah i could increase the limit but i like running the game on high and my pc is only just good enough to run it at decent fps in 1440p

and i would rather keep it that way

[open oxide]

a lot of people ask about why only 27.5 people have completed onboarding. i can only assume that most play with advanced game settings. that or completeed it in early access then continued in 1.0. thats my guess.

[modest smelt]

or check the box to skip the tutorial when makinga new game?

[fallen orbit]

Ada said I am 74% more efficient than most pioneer 😄

[leaden turret]

could be a stinger ate someone's torso and the stump pushed a button

0.5 people

[daring helm]

Or like me chose to skip it when made new game at 1.0

[visual wolf]

Hey all, anyone know if there is a way to nudge up or down a splitter that is locked onto a coveyer lift?

[leaden turret]

1. place finger underneath monitor
2. scootch monitor up
3. locked item has been vertically nudged up

aka. no, you can't move already-placed objects

[visual wolf]

it isn't placed yet. I locked the hologram, but when it is attached to a lift, it doesn't allow you to nudge up and down for accurate placement.

I thought there may be a trick for that.

[leaden turret]

check in #satisfactory-experimental if anyone awake in there knows

[visual wolf]

Good call

Thanks

[coarse geode]

is there any way to reduce fall damage?

[leaden turret]

🪂

[coarse geode]

are they reuseable?

[leaden turret]

yup

[coarse geode]

thank god

i dont wanna go around cutting trees all day

[leaden turret]

can get biomass from creature parts

[white dawn]

There's a way to fully automate Fabric production, btw, via an alt recipe you can find by scanning hard drives

Requires oil (recipe is "Polyester Fabric")

More important for gas mask filter production, since those are single-use items

[coarse geode]

im nowhere close near oil yet

[white dawn]

Regardless, the parachute is A+

Be sure to try aiming yourself at an upward slope while you're gliding around; you'll be pleasantly surprised

[latent prawn]

yeah, haha, honestly the parachute is sometimes quicker in climbing than the jetpack

[coarse geode]

can someone tell me why my fuse keeps blowing 😭

[willow glen]

If you’re still on biomass you either don’t have enough of them or you have empty burners. If you’re beyond that the answer gets more complicated.

Also check and make sure you don’t have separated grids; check for green/yellow lights above machines.

[peak wasp]

I remember in the beginning I had a room of 20 biomass fully overlocked i was cutting down forests every 5mins

🤣

[near quarry]

always a struggle

[coarse geode]

almost 80 hours into the game and i still havent got electricity

[winged willow]

Are the Mk 6 belts working yet

[peak wasp]

It was no joke lmao fiscit was proud of my deforestation

[shell lintel]

hi, is there any way to get dx12 back as option ? Wanted to try Vulkan to see if it ran better, but now the dx12 option is gone. I already found i can start the game with the dx-12 shortcut, but is there a way to get it back without the commandline option ?

[spice patio]

Launch with that option, then apply in Options to save that, then remove the option.

[shell lintel]

right, i'l give it a try, thanx

[rugged abyss]

when do i get a jetpack?

[white dawn]

Phase 3, I think, though you can also get it basically anytime as a drop from a very rare mob spawn

[rugged abyss]

you mean tier?

[shell lintel]

did the trick , tnx !

[white dawn]

No, phase. Unlocks with oil

[rugged abyss]

ok, tnx

[white dawn]

It may help to delete your engine.ini file too; launching with Vulkan ends up adding some lines in there which can make switching back a bit weird

(You can alternatively just delete those extra lines, but I don't know what they are off the to of my head)

[rugged abyss]

its phase 2, tier 5. acording to the wiki

[white dawn]

Tier 5 is in Phase 3. :)

[coarse geode]

for the love of god i cant get any electricity established wtf

[shrewd palm]

disconnect everything that isnt absolutely necessary for power, make sure power is stable, and then reconnect everything 1 at a time

if you dont have coal yet i highly recommend getting that sorted out

[coarse geode]

therers legit 0 coal near me

[shrewd palm]

where are you set up?

[rugged abyss]

https://imgur.com/a/CFDcn0l
really?

[white dawn]

The first of many times where the game is encouraging you to expand. :)

[coarse geode]

i cant just pull a cable from across the map

[shrewd palm]

there are a couple spots where its really easy to get a coal plant set up until you get oil

[white dawn]

Really. :). https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Milestones#Tier_5

[shrewd palm]

the lake in the grassy fields and those 4 coal nodes in the biome intersection near the rocky desert/north forest

[white dawn]

Sure you can, and you will! The power grid must grow.

[shrewd palm]

if you're worried its going to be too dangerous t ake out a tractor or something too

creatures wont attack you if you're in a vehicle and you can run over all the small ones

[coarse geode]

thats it

electricity is impossible

[white dawn]

Like much in this game, there's a learning curve. Nothing's impossible, though. Once you figure it out, it'll be no problem

But yeah, winning power lines across the map is something you'll definitely get used to

[coarse geode]

id have to go 4km to find coal

yeah no

[white dawn]

In the MAM there's "Power Towers" you can eventually unlock which make cross-map power lines more convenient

[leaden turret]

electricity is not impossible, it is shocking

[white dawn]

But you can use regular power poles just fine

[shrewd palm]

wheres your base?

[white dawn]

I guarantee you are not 4km from coal

[shrewd palm]

there isnt a single spot on the map where coal is more than 1km away

[white dawn]

But regardless: the game will be encouraging you to expand frequently

[coarse geode]

in the south

[leaden turret]

1.0000000000001km above a coal node

[white dawn]

My recommendation is to get used to that. Build outwards! Make small factories near convenient nodes. It's a great map; get exploring!

[leaden turret]

trying to think how many buildings you can only build one of.

• space elevator
• hub

?

[white dawn]

One Constructor Challenge

[leaden turret]

[shrewd palm]

fully overclocked and slooped quantum encoder

[leaden turret]

point being that there's not much that requires one to stay in one spot for convenience

like when exploring I used to feel I had to traipse back to the hub whenever the mam went ding when there was stuff, until I realised I can just... carry the parts for another mam on me and build one when it goes ding

[elder apex]

You could also do the same thing with the hub, just don't build it until you need to research a milestone and then plop one down then destroy it afterwards

[leaden turret]

yeah, but that has death / respawn implications

[white dawn]

Yeah, I always think I should do that but I admit I like having a set hub location

[leaden turret]

I did a lot more exploring when I made this realisation

[glad sorrel]

can you somehow hide the "experimental build" text?

[white dawn]

Opt out of Experimental

[leaden turret]

1. obtain cat
2. put shelf above computer monitor
3. train cat to sit on shelf above monitor with tail dangling over monitor

[elder apex]

avoiding death in this game is quite trivial, and even if you do die usually the biggest problem is getting to the corpse location, not where you respawn

[leaden turret]

says someone who never played mmogs enough to get corpse run anxiety

[shrewd palm]

you get more map for exploring

[glad sorrel]

huh?

[elder apex]

more like 'says someone that played Eve Online multiple years and just got used to dying frequently and moving on'. Often it is just more time effective to just leave the corpse for later or ignore it completely, but people have a fixation on getting their stuff back.

[sullen gull]

Ugh, EvE online. Now there is some anxiety driven corpse loss for sure lol.

[white dawn]

Basically, if you don't want the banner saying that you're running Experimental, don't run the experimental version. :)

[leaden turret]

I prefer the cat option

[white dawn]

The nice side effect of that method is that you also have a cat

Wouldn't work for me, though; I'd be too scared of my greyhound's prey drive

They said she tested pretty well with cats but given how she responds to rabbits and squirrels I don't believe them

[leaden turret]

why your greyhound playing spoopy fps games 🥁

[near quarry]

does phase 5 contain content or is it just the final goal

[distant pilot]

wym by content?

It has new project parts and a way to reprocess plutonium waste, and you can finally use SAM for mass production

[near quarry]

sorry wrongly worded, i mean after completing phase 5

[shrewd palm]

no

game finishes after you get all the stuff for phase 5 done

[cyan garnet]

After you save the day, the game becomes truly open ended and sandbox. Do whatever you want, make your own goals, etc

[terse saddle]

Does it at least add puppies and kittens for petting?

[shrewd palm]

what about lizard doggos

[sturdy mural]

guys

i found a way to make an eternal prison

[wanton stag]

is there a way to destroy all of a certain thing in your inventory in one go? like a bunch of iron ore or a bunch of limestone?

[coarse geode]

time for operation DOD, either im gonna double my coal input or im gonna die trying

if that doesnt work electricity aint happening no more, wish me luck

[wanton stag]

do you have batteries? ;-;

[heady night]

Hold control and drag the item to the trash can icon

[coarse geode]

i dont think so

[white dawn]

You probably mean "Power Storage" btw. In the game, "Battery" is a separate produceable resource

(which is annoying, since Power Storages basically are batteries, and they even look like a certain brand of real-life batteries, and ADA even refers to them as being "like a battery," but mixing the terms can sometimes make things confusing in here. :D)

[wanton stag]

yeah

[zenith pecan]

I built too many of those 😄

[white dawn]

MOAR

[zenith pecan]

7776 of them in the power stations support tower.

[rugged abyss]

how far out does the scanner go?

cause a scan i did found quartz like 2,300m away

[vestal mica]

it's weird, i dont' know if other actions can interrupt it or if different resources have different ranges because sometimes it doesn't ping stuff that's pretty close to me and sometimes it pings stuff halfway across the map

[shell obsidian]

I think about 3500 M, maybe 4000 M from personal experiences

[prisma thicket]

It's supposed to show the nearest 3 nodes or clusters of nodes, regardless of distance.

[left totem]

yes.

[livid heath]

Guys any base shape ideas? I wanna kinda make a hexagon tower ish main base, but i just unlocked oil production so i will need some more ideas! Yall got any?

[left totem]

凸凹

pretty funny looking kanji

maybe like the letter H

number 8

Letter Y

[livid heath]

Oo an H could work

2 hypertube railguns in the empty spots between the lines of the H maybe

[coarse geode]

damn, electricity wont be happening anytime soon

[scenic socket]

Is it possible to make a balancer to turn 13 620p/m belts into like 7 or 8 780 belts?

[naive pendant]

@scenic socket You want a belt compressor not a balancer for that; wiki has a guide for building them. Better solution is to avoid the situation entirely as the game doesn’t have very good tools for handling that kind of belt manipulation.

[scenic socket]

Yeah, the building I made for it is very neat but the numbers are very awkward to work with

[hard junco]

Hey How do splitters handle uneven resource distribution?
I’m new to the game and trying to understand splitter mechanics. I have:

Two coal nodes (300/min each, 600/min total).
Two factories:
Factory A needs 200 coal/min.

Factory B needs 400 coal/min.

Since splitters divide inputs evenly, is there a way to route exactly 200/min to Factory A and 400/min to Factory B

[coarse geode]

Node A, 1 splitter, 2 belts to factory A, the third to factory b
Node B, 1 belt to factory b

make sure your belts handle it

[frail sleet]

They split evenly, and they overflow

[hard junco]

oh thats it? so factory A takes what it need from the node and let the other coal goes to factory B is that correct?

[frail sleet]

yes but you can split it differently

e.g. split the 300 into 100+100+100

re-merge two in 200, now it will only send 200 on that belt

[coarse geode]

yeah, node A produces 300/min, since the splitter will have 3 outputs its divided by 3, 300/3=100, so each belt carries 100

[frail sleet]

side note: you probably can't take 600 out of the coal node due to having a max belt speed of ~480?

[hard junco]

wait wait how did i miss this?? splitter work evenly so since there is 3 outputs it means i can split the 300 to 100+100+100???? OMG
so i can like merge two outputs and thats 200 for factory A and the remaining 100 goes with the 300 to factory B!!
i have mk3 belts so i can split one 300 node and send them both to factory B split the other node to three outputs merge two and the other output merge it with the 150+150 to factory B

[near quarry]

is tier 4 conveyeres the max?

[hard junco]

i think the math is correct here

[naive pendant]

@near quarry T6 max

[white dawn]

If you want to split 300/min into two 150/min belts, you can just use a splitter with only two output belts connected, btw

Splitters just alternate between all connected ouputs in a round-robin fashion, so with one output it essentially does nothing except pass the materials through, with two outputs it splits the flow in half, and with three it splits it into thirds

(If one of the output belts is "full" it'll skip that belt until there's room for another item)

Note that it's pretty rare to actually need to split exact values -- you can always just make use of "manifold logic." Like on an example that might be more difficult to split "exactly": ```
Factory Factory
[60/min] [50/min]
^ ^
Source | |
[300/min] ---> [S] ---> [240/min] ---> [S] ---> [190/min] ---> (other factories)

You take your 300/min source, which goes into a factory needing 60/min. Just split before. It's getting more material than it needs, so it'll "back up"

Then you build the factory which needs 50/min, so you add that one down the line

The one in front is still getting 60/min, and the 50/min one is also getting what it needs

Can take a little while for everything to "even out" because you need to wait for the factories earlier on to fully back up

But that way you're not spending your time trying to come up with a balancer which produces the exact ratios you want

It'll all just even out in the end, since the slower consumers at the beginning will fill up and can only consume what they need

[frozen cloud]

overflow split 300 into 200:100
merge 100 with 300 for 400

[white dawn]

Yeah, when doing that kind of manifold-like splitting between factories, I'll often make use of Smart Splitters w/ Overflow so that the factories I've already built on the line don't starve while the new ones fill up

But even that's not really necessary since the system will auto-normalize (so long as the consumers don't need more than the source is providing)

[frozen cloud]

btw priority mergers are great for this is youre not sure if a merger will stall a belt
i pretty much only use smart splitter and priority merger for this type of logistics now

[hard junco]

i see i understand it now so everything gets what it needs as long as we have enough from the source, thats the manifold system no? i thought it works with even numbers only for some reason lol, plus dont know why i thought distance matter so i cant use a manifold for another factory i was using it just for one factory like smelters....

i didnt unlock smart splitters yet they look complicated lol

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, it'll work just fine for any arbitrary weird numbers you need, which will often end up being the case as you progress through the game. :)

[hard junco]

cant wait for those weird numbers to get weirder lol

[white dawn]

I don't tend to "share" resource nodes unless the factories are like right next to each other, btw -- lots of nodes on the map. It's rare that I worry about "maxing out" a resource node; I just build what I need and if I'm "wasting" some of a node's potential, so be it

There are a lot of resources on the map. You really do have to try specifically to exhaust resources in the game

(With the possible exception of SAM, if you're doing a decent sized Ficsonium nuclear buildout. Ficsonium inhales SAM)

If I do have factories right next to each other then I'll certainly share nodes when appropriate, of course. :)

The main exception for me is that I do tend to max out Bauxite nodes while making aluminum

[hard junco]

yes i try to do that but i dont know i probably didnt plan this well, i have 4 coal nodes next to each other, 2 nodes are used in steel and other things, two nodes were used for a coal power plant, i needed more power so i decided to build a bigger power plant cuz i felt like i can build something bigger than just 16 generator, so next to the power plant i built another factory put 10 water extactors and satarted calculating how much generators i can run and how much coal they need.....perhaps this is not the right way to plan things i know haha

ah and the other coal nodes are far from these coal plants....as i said bad planning lol

[frozen cloud]

its not an easy answer
i personally use up full nodes early, kinda wing the mid game and calculate how much ore i need for the lategame

[hard junco]

i am still in phase 2 so i am not thinking about the lategame at all plus i am still discovering all the mechanics in the game what i can do and cant do

[jolly garnet]

This might be a silly question but how do I centralize all my materials to one place really easily early game? Trucks with the autodriving feature I'm guessing? Or would conveyors work nicer?

[leaden turret]

🏭 🏭

[white dawn]

Personal preference, but in the early game it's generally Tractors or Belts

Personally I prefer Tractors; IMO they're great

[jolly garnet]

I wanna get this thing lmao

[white dawn]

I don't generally like running belts long-distance. But, again, that's a personal preference thing

I actually don't tend to use Trucks much, since you unlock those around the same time you get trains

[jolly garnet]

Cost becomes pretty big I'm guessing with higher tier belts

[leaden turret]

work from home, wear pants, eventually can't avoid running belt long distance

[zenith pecan]

I use a lot of belts, but even early game, concrete lined tunnels 😄

[white dawn]

But IMO basically all the logistics options (belts+pipes/tractors+trucks(+carts)/trains/drones) are great; just gotta pick the one that's most appropriate for the situation, modified by your own personal preferences

[frozen cloud]

nah theres cheap high tier belts
1 3 5 is cheap
2 4 6 is expesnive

[leaden turret]

• belts pro: doesn't need a return journey
• belts con: expanding capacity means running the entire length of the belt again
• vehicles pro: expanding capacity can be achieved by re-using a previously-laid autopilot path
• vehicles con: deadlock
• trains pro: expanding capacity can be achieved by re-using an existing track
• trains con: by the time you're ready to build out massive train infrastructure you've probably put something else down as "temporary" infrastructure and you might not wanna actually do the trains

[white dawn]

The only time I've seen vehicles deadlock since at least U8 is when I've had an accidental blue "pause node" in my path (if a game's saved with a vehicle at one of those, and you load that save, it'll sit there forever)

Though I admit that if there's some weird edge case with vehicles deadlocking then it could just be that I've happened to not run into it

[leaden turret]

aka deadlock is skill issue

[white dawn]

IME vehicles will always auto-recover after a little while, if they do get suck

Via magical non-Singularity-Cell-powered teleport technology. :D

[frozen cloud]

re-use a train track until it dies of congestion and youre left crying in a corner

[white dawn]

To the "vehicles pro" side I'll add "it's fun to watch all your tractors trundling around the map." :D

[leaden turret]

reminder of the time I was about to set up a 300m train station then thought better of it

[white dawn]

Though that is also true of trains+drones (and to some extent belts)

[forest bridge]

Ok so I'm moving from mk1 miner to mk2, and the bump in resources is going to force me to expand stuff right. Do you guys prefer to just use power shards wherever possible, or just build out 2x the stuff

[frozen cloud]

well autoconnect also made running multiple belts a lot easier compared to before

[leaden turret]

haven't had the spoons to try it yet

[elder apex]

expanding capacity of belts isn't nearly as bad as having to lay the initial belt

[frozen cloud]

its one hell of a drug

[white dawn]

I generally only upgrade miners if I happen to want to build a new factory in a location whose nodes are otherwise already tapped

The map is huge, and resource nodes are plentiful (even for "rare" resources)

[leaden turret]

300 hours later x4077 finds a left over mk.1 belt corner being the cause of slow production they've been trying to diagnose for the past week

[frozen cloud]

that spreads the factories around a lot though which increases travel time between them

[frozen cloud]

literally happened to me where i had a mk3 belt clogging my phase 5 finish because i build a merger that covered a small belt section that i missed

[white dawn]

The question then becomes: why do you need to visit your old factories, apart from the "tourism" angle? :D (ie: if you never expand existing factories, you generally never need to visit 'em again once they're set up)

[forest bridge]

Yeah I've got a lot of my production in one spot right now with 6 pure iron nodes, and am thinking of just upscaling everything i have here so I can double the output before moving on

[leaden turret]

"where the hell is that crate on the map?"

[elder apex]

i'd wager that i spend less time tracking down belt problems than other folks do setting up truck/train routes

[white dawn]

Centralizing + "upgrading" factories is a very common strategy, but IMO it's not worth the bother. Just make new stuff in a new location when you need it. :)

[frozen cloud]

well also more time to get to a new spot, or move building resources between them

[forest bridge]

[white dawn]

Like you're making enough RIPs already for whatever you need to do now. If some other factory needs RIPs in the future, just make more right inside the factory which needs 'em.

[forest bridge]

what's an rip

[white dawn]

Reinforced Iron Plate

[forest bridge]

oh

[white dawn]

(just used as an example)

[white dawn]

Which you'd have to do if you're centralizing + upgrading anyway. :)

[frozen cloud]

yes just shorter distances

[elder apex]

also, don't forget the pro for belts of not consuming power and the pro of trains transporting power

[white dawn]

Essentially what I'm tiptoeing around is yet another advocacy moment for https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency as a build strategy. :D Just one way to play the game, of course, but having tried many other options over the years I'm quite fond of it, even if I don't always follow it religiously

[zenith pecan]

Oops, don't save the game with a nuke sitting on the ground next to you, damned thing went off as I loaded back and well, straight back to respawn.

[placid stirrup]

||Days since last incident:||

[static surge]

i swear the constructor animations sync when you're not looking

they all start at different times but if you come back later all the animations are synced up perfectly

[latent prawn]

that's because out of render distance, the game doesn't keep track of it

[static surge]

makes sense

[grim scaffold]

hey how do you volunteer to translate the game?

is that even a thing?

[zenith pecan]

I think you can #open-a-ticket

[grim scaffold]

oh thanks

[zenith pecan]

I am not 100% sure, but at least you should get a response that'll better signpost than I can.

[fossil ice]

Volunteer Translator Program

Interested in helping localize Satisfactory? Please apply for the Volunteer Translator Program by filling out this form: https://dyno.gg/form/6ee260f1

Command executed by: ondar.irl

[true mulch]

@grim scaffold ^

[zenith pecan]

Ahh cool, I didn't actually know so my response was basically the best I had 🙂

[grim scaffold]

yeah found it, thanks

[true mulch]

(!translate command)

[zenith pecan]

I'll keep that in mind for the future, thankyou.

[leaden turret]

I was going to sarcastically translate the word command, but it turns out in dutch and swedish it's just c/kommando

[grim scaffold]

well I just finished the game and I now have to find a new game to play while watching stuff

any recommendations?

not factorio I wasn't really into it

oh thats for #off-topic-general my bad

[zenith pecan]

It's going to be an interesting job trying to route all 10200 SAM ore and process to reanimated.

[grim scaffold]

per minute?

or total

[zenith pecan]

10,200 mined per minute, all of it, it'll make 2550 reanimated.

I'm digging tunnels under the map to route it all to one place.

[grim scaffold]

why and how in the world would you have 10k sam mined per minute

no one on earth needs this much sam 😭

[elder apex]

"because you can"

[grim scaffold]

hey does the planet have a name?

[elder apex]

ADA tells you the name of the planet at some point

[grim scaffold]

yeah found it

massage something

[zenith pecan]

3 pure (1200 each) 6 normal (600 each) & 10 impure (300 each) , totals 10200 😛

[grim scaffold]

yes but why

[zenith pecan]

Not much different to me gathering all the bauxite or uranium, just a larger facility.

I'm doing it simply because I can.

[grim scaffold]

well uhhh

good luck with that

[frozen cloud]

do they even use translators anymore?
in the credits they mention a firm and have translators under "early access translation"

[coarse geode]

are coal plants bugged rn?

[atomic notch]

no

[zenith pecan]

My previous save had passages innervating the entire map, I'm practiced at mass collections, I don't really need luck, just prior experience.

[atomic notch]

i was just using some, could be your end?

[leaden turret]

October 25th, 2024 Video
Localisation Updates
https://youtube.com/embed/u5qJTWhNtb8?autoplay=1&start=398&end=406

we've also updated the Community Driven localization

[grim scaffold]

hey how do you get the pioneer role

[leaden turret]

secret

[grim scaffold]

is that for pre-1.0 players?

[leaden turret]

nope

[frozen cloud]

thats before 1.0 right?

[atomic notch]

nah cuz then id get one

[grim scaffold]

dang

[leaden turret]

Satisfactory is finally leaving Early Access and will be launching into 1.0 on September 10th.

[atomic notch]

lit

cant wait

[coarse geode]

80 hours still no electricity, great game

[leaden turret]

there was so much new stuff in 1.0 that they wanted to keep secret they got a ndable company to get a subset of the localisations up to snuff, then opened it back up to community translation after release

[leaden turret]

2024

[grim scaffold]

I'm playing with no power using difficulty tuner
makes the game much more chill don't have to worry too much

[frozen cloud]

ah

[zenith pecan]

I'm playing with a ridiculous amount of power due to having three power station towers more than half a kilometre tall.

[grim scaffold]

does the height increase the power?

[atomic notch]

nah

[zenith pecan]

Nope, but building them on one plane would swallow an entire biome.

[grim scaffold]

oh damn

[atomic notch]

id be in the skybox rn if that were true

[zenith pecan]

Here's a brief look at the place #screenshots message

[atomic notch]

Nice

[pearl geyser]

hi im a disabled streamer could anyone tell me if this game goes on sale

[atomic notch]

Put it on your wishlist lol

[pearl geyser]

i did for 2 month now

[tranquil maple]

does anybody know what the wr for nucler pasta per minute is?

[true mulch]

https://steamdb.info/app/526870/

Steam Summer Sale is probably the soonest it'll go on sale

[jolly garnet]

I mean tbf I wouldn't go with that one persay but it's an option

[craggy flower]

not sure whats the right channel.. but how many storage containers would i need to store every item required to build and weapons + equipment ?

[true mulch]

I don't know how to answer that question

[jolly garnet]

Eh I'm gonna delete it incase it does take away money from the them

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Building_materials for buildings, I don't have a list handy for ammo

all the rebars, nobelisks, rifle ammo, filters and potentially jetpack fuel

[craggy flower]

i count 40 on that list... did i count right? sorry for being a pain

ohh yea just seen it says 40 at top of page

[true mulch]

review if you want to store everything on the list, such as biomass, screws or portable miners

which are technically used for building

but the usefulness of storing them is questionable

[frozen cloud]

hahahaha didnt know biomass was a thing xD

[craggy flower]

for biomass burners and chainsaw and for turning in to liquid biomass

[frozen cloud]

no for u-jelly landing pads xD

[craggy flower]

that uses biomass?

[true mulch]

it's a list of building materials

biomass is used to build U-jelly landing pads

that makes it a building material, but I'm not sure if you want to include it in your storage system

[trim vine]

Is there a way to paste machine settings without going into the actual machine? Or copy for that matter?

[prisma thicket]

Just hist Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v when looking at machines, you'll see a message pop up "Settings Copied" "Settings Pasted"

[trim vine]

anything I need to press before hand, or just looking at it?

[craggy flower]

^ or u can remap the copy and past function to mouse buttons

[prisma thicket]

It even inserts power shards for overclocking if you have them available.

[compact nest]

Just look at it yup

[craggy flower]

if on 1.1

[prisma thicket]

Does that on current patch too

[atomic notch]

Ur thinking of middle mouse button

[lavish lance]

Is pasting to water extractors fixed in 1.1?

[atomic notch]

Idk

[craggy flower]

yea probs

[prisma thicket]

I'm not on experimental, and Ctrl+C Ctrl+V works just fine for me.

[lavish lance]

Kinda suck in 1.0 that it doesnt

[atomic notch]

Idk ig i never had to paste a water extractor

[lavish lance]

I had to a lot for nuclear

And diluted fuel

[atomic notch]

Yeah but i never overclock water lol

Unless its for smaller stuff

If i need a lot im just spamming extractors

[lavish lance]

I underclock mostly

[atomic notch]

Ah

Yeah thatll do it

Set to like 100 then or what

[warped cove]

yall what are the two secret achievements, and does one have to do with the end of the game

I got the one ||for petting the flying manta|| but I didn't want to reveal the other one if it had to do with the story / end of the game or something

[frozen cloud]

not related to story
||https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fe5ruo/hidden_achievements/||

[warped cove]

oh theres four

I guess I got the other two without realizing 😭

[gilded saffron]

Random question. Just out of curiosity. do they plan on adding a new map? or a new enviroment?

[warped cove]

Ive not seen any mention of either recently, but I mightve missed something, but I assume its not off the table but its not really on the table either

[atomic notch]

Itd be cool but i doubt it

[frozen cloud]

can probably find the answer on https://archive.satisfactory.video/search/
pretty sure its no though

[gilded saffron]

huh. I personally hope so. I love this game. but also im the type of gamer that enjoys enviromental content. i actually started looking at subnautica. and thought it would be a super crazy if this game had more aquatic elements.

Sorry im super curious today. Where do most people believe the prime base location is? both on a functional level and on an aesthetic

[warped cove]

I mean, the majority of first playthroughs ( from what Ive seen ) are in that one spot you see in the trailer

with the iron nodes and the cliff

that's where my current one is ( as I'm on my first playthrough )

by pure coincidence

[frozen cloud]

i dont do aesthetics but functional: west of northern forest on the cliff, commonly known as speedrun spot

[gilded saffron]

im thinking about starting over. I just got some trains and stuff built. but honestly i REAALY hate the location im at. i spawned at the lowest point almost of the map. and just kinda started there and stayed there.

[carmine saddle]

Hey ,silly question here...
Is using mods (ie the power armor mod) considered cheating and or disables the achievements?
Long commuting is getting a little out of hand for my funny gigs factory

[atomic notch]

if you start over you lose everything just look for a better location, might take some time but a total reset will take longer imo

[gilded saffron]

now moving everything somewere else.... and this was my first playthrough and i have torn everything down and rebuilt it so many times.... this last tear down really took the wind out of my sails

[boreal musk]

so far no, cuz the map is pretty much finished now, unless they want to do something for dlc

[atomic notch]

you dont gotta tear stuff down you can just disconnect and leave it

it sucks bringin everything to one spot tho,

[boreal musk]

centralizing is fun if you know what youre doing

[atomic notch]

planning a 4000 steel a minute factory on the other side of the map rn lol

[zenith pecan]

I have one mostly assembled, I just need to belt up the iron next time I load the game, will be 4200 steel out.

[atomic notch]

im just spitballing rn, havent even checked nodes lol

its gonna be most of the grasslands tho

[south sinew]

just use a hypercannon, your commute time will be cut to a few seconds

[atomic notch]

single player game, whats considered cheating is up to you

idk about achievments thos since i dont use mods

[hallow crow]

will 1.1 be fully compatible with the steam deck?

sorry if the changelog said so or not i didn’t read it

I know controller support will be added

[atomic notch]

yeah i was playin it on experimental

[boreal musk]

only ags disables achievements, mod doesnt

[atomic notch]

had it hooked up to a tv using a controller tho

dk if the steamdeck controls work

[zenith pecan]

Disabled achievements wouldn`t effect me 😛 , all completed.

[atomic notch]

i just gotta get the endgame ones since the peeps on my server sent it while i was offline

[prisma thicket]

Does the amount of fuel the various generators consume scale 1:1 with their clock speed? Or how would I go about figuring out what a generator burns at like 200% speed?

[frail sleet]

deck will have poor performance especially mid-lategame

[frail sleet]

yes

[hallow crow]

what about low graphics?

[trim vine]

Hey all, I am trying to design a "water tower" of 3x3 pipes going up in a single foundations space, I wanna design it to be 44 meters high, that way I can just drop another with pumps on it, whats a good way to get them all lines up to go straight up?

having trouble with that

[atomic notch]

floor holes

[frail sleet]

CPU is more of the problem, it's zen 2 with clock speed limits and only 4MB of L3 cache, high latency memory.

[trim vine]

I thought the floor holes were bugged?

Or is that only wall holes?

[atomic notch]

just place for the pipes then delete

like a scaffolding

[frail sleet]

i haven't found any bug, started playing on 1.0 and tested a lot

[atomic notch]

do a bluprint will make your life easier

[trim vine]

Ok then, floor holes are safe, and that makes this easy

[trim vine]

thats the plan 😛

[trim vine]

Thank you for dispelling the idea that floor holes were bugged 😛

[zenith pecan]

Floor holes had bugs back when it was still Update 7 before unreal engine 5, my current 1.0 save has more than a 1000 of them in play and the systems are behaving normally 🙂

[trim vine]

I love all of you ❤️

[trim vine]

When designing the blueprint, can it be flush to the ground, or should I build starting at whatever height 3 stackable pipe things are?

[zenith pecan]

The floor hole should sit ok on a foundation sitting at grond level np, best bet is test it and see, just in case, I've had some proper blueprint weirdness, here`s an example: #satisfactory-experimental message

[trim vine]

Anyone got that link to how to build different balancers?

Had like labels for ratios and number of belts in and out?

[zenith pecan]

This is old but it's a playlist of varying balancers I found a long time back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5d4foufHGE&list=PLQo-FPWWaZE-jn38NUxfxh5S2VyJNjnO

[prisma thicket]

How much do you need cooling systems in phase 5? I know they are used for turbo motors and nuclear stuff, but I'm skipping nuclear, at least for now.

[boreal musk]

depends on how much youre making that use cooling system

[frozen cloud]

you need them for the space elevator

[trim vine]

Thats a good one, but he really only shows the lower number to higher number ones

I might just need to math more

[prisma thicket]

Ok, so lots then? Is 30/min reasonable?

[frozen cloud]

probably dont need that much
idk depends on how big you wanna build
id go for 12

[lost belfry]

why does goat chill on the boom box go so f*ing hard

[tranquil maple]

Can you sloop packagers?

[shrewd palm]

as far as i know you can sloop everything that doesnt produce power

[frozen cloud]

no

[tranquil maple]

okay

[trim vine]

when stacking, whats a good way to connect them when building them right on top of one another?

[boreal musk]

last save i only did 20/min cooling system to finish the game

not that much

[prisma thicket]

What are some recipes that use a lot of nitrogen gas? Just tapped a gigantic node and want to make use of more than just 240 of what's available.

[hollow vector]

satisfactory memes has the worst moderation

[austere valve]

Do a hostile takeover

[latent prawn]

just about anything that requires nitrogen takes a lot of it, but the big hitters are fused modular frame & cooling system

[prisma thicket]

Ok, well I already have the fuse frames automated, so I guess it'll just be cooling systems and packaging the rest for transport. Maybe even make use of the packaged gas with that turbo pressure motor alt recipe.

[leaden ether]

Woo, 23.5 million sink points/minute. Was just unclogging a backup though, It's back down to 1 mill/minute like normal...

[brazen hinge]

Is it a good idea to have a whole factory dedicated to smelting ores from trains that bring it there?

[abstract heron]

i wish dimensional depots have a bigger inventory size

[prisma thicket]

It sounds like a good idea, though it really depends on how much you're making and where you need to send all those ingots. As long as you can keep track of how much you're producing and how much you're using, it should be fine I would think.

[abstract heron]

ik in 1.1 they have auto connect in BP but sometimes adding 500k belts bridges and pipes but make it bigger

[brazen hinge]

Ok thank you for responding

[boreal musk]

recommended to just make modular productions
for example if x factory needs 2000 iron, you produce 2000 iron there

[grizzled lotus]

I started a new run, and I'm trying to go for the independant factory method. how do I do this when I'm trying to make reinforced plates early-game

I usually put a third of each output into a storage container. Do I take one ore deposit solely for iron plates, another for screws and put all that into an assembler for reinforced plates?

[prisma thicket]

Usually the early iron stuff is best produced all together, since it's simple and the most commonly used goods until later on. So even if you're doing independant factories, it might be a good idea to keep your iron plates, rods and reinforced plates in one. Can even include rotors and modular frames if you're feeling up to it, but those can also easily be their own.

[dense violet]

I probably wouldn't make a seperate section for storage - just have overflow go to the side

for example if you're making 20 rip pm, but only using 15 in production, eventually storage will get full even if you don't use a smart spliter for over flow

[grizzled lotus]

how do I make overflow go to the side early-game?

[dense violet]

well you can get smart splitters very early
or you could just put storage at the end of the manifold and you'll get near 100% production until the storage fills

or you can manually split it

for example if you're using 15 of 20, you can split a belt into 4 groups of 5, and merge 3 of them for the manifold and 1 belt of 5 for storage

personally I wouldn't care if hte next step wasn't running at 100% until the storage was full - by the time I'd finished setting up the next factory it'd be running smooth

[grizzled lotus]

I must be sleepy because I still doin't know what to do

[dense violet]

post in #math-and-meta exactly what you're trying to do. with numbers and maybe a satisfactory tools plan

[boreal musk]

easier to just unlock smart splitter, as they are available as long as you unlock copper sheets and researched caterium

[warped cove]

how overkill is 4 adaptive control units / minute while trying to complete phase 3

[dense violet]

probably fine

[abstract heron]

before i make factory i see how much i want see what stuff i have close think then add output and ya

[trim vine]

@latent prawn

Thanks! Good tip!

Though I meant stackable pipe BP, ~44m with pumps and power, how to connect them pipes and whatnot when stacking that BP

[surreal peak]

having such a harder time than i thought with trains. i just need a simple bidirectional train setup with Station A (unload) <----> Station B (load) setup. or is the real strategy to have a loop and avoid bidrectional nonsense

[dense violet]

have an engine on both ends facing each direction

and even if you have a loop it's bi directional because you only have 1 lane

[surreal peak]

i think that makes sense but the concept of the train station directions confuses me because in a loop its always going forward but in a bidirectional it has to reverse and go forwards or backwards. when you manually drive the train you can go forwards or backwards but i will try addiing an engine (locomotive?) on either side of the freight cars

[dense violet]

I'm not sure what you mean, either way you need the station facing teh same way the train is coming in

either you have a straight line with an engine facing each direction.

or after each station you have a loop with only 1 engine

either works fine. though non loop is less chunky since you avoid the loops

[peak wasp]

anybody got a clue how not to get so dang demotivated knowing your going to probably tear apart everything to redo it, lol?

[dense violet]

accept tiers 1-9 are a long tutorial to teach you how to do your own projects in an open world after

also - don't tear things down until you've unlocked everything and making your own goals

[surreal peak]

its complicated and i dont understand it fully to explain my problem maybe. but im trying to build something like STATION-A (unload) <---> STATION-B (load) and have the train go bidirectional forwards from A to B and then reverse from B to A. is this impossible or i must be missing something easy

[dense violet]

it's the most basic thing

[peak wasp]

i'd take this with a grain of salt cause ive never really gotten the chance to use trains consistently, but that sounds insanely easy to do

[surreal peak]

my train just says destination unreachable when i try to build that. ill try again

[dense violet]

i've pinged you in math n meta

[peak wasp]

honestly mine just like to crash ;)

[surreal peak]

thank you. ill try to build your diagram and see what happens

[peak wasp]

every time i try and do anything sophisticated something gets derailed like, 4 hours later, and as someone who lets my game run AFK that can be really bad

also do we have any clue about 1.1's release? im in such desperate need of those wall holes. . .

[dense violet]

no news

[peak wasp]

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[dense violet]

and it's very easy to make simple and good rails

just keep it to two lanes with stations off to the side

[peak wasp]

yeh, just my perfectionism is a pain with everything i do