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Welcome. And the two adds https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/BruteHarbinger-UberAberroth and https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/AgileHarbinger-UberAberroth
wow, so dodge is kinda strong once you have enough hp/ward and ward regen to tank the occasional balls/ dots
any place in my build i could slot another 'less damage taken' modifier or some consistent ward generation?
i am ssf
You need more hp ,what corruption you are at
its mostly what's stopping me from downing uber aberroth, ward generation not consistent enough
800
Also getting those 0 lp uniques to have actual lp with slams would be huge
Yeah you need better gear and more hp slams too high corr for 1.5 k health
i get 2.5k ward relatively often, 1.5K at least
most of my ward generation is from my boots when i stop moving xD
on bosses tho its inbetween 1.5 to 2.0 k
2.5 k is during maps with the on hit ward effect from idols
hmm
aside
from vitality intelligence or dex
nothing of real value on helmet that i could slam
maybe level of enchant weapon
if it drops i'll slam it
but aside from that not much else
You're playing shatter strike no?
Yeah but that is not enough,you are limited with spellblade vs a caster build ,if you have the damage just get more hp,idk maybe get some armor also your exalt ring could be better like 1 with 1t7 and full t5 would be better
you want dex on like everything
flame reave
ah
I would use titan hearth over static shell
shock isn't an issue
But try getting a 2 lp or 1 lp with corruption at least
and it does halve every other type of damage
titan heart is just more defense than static shell if you're using a 2h
Its not about shock is that it gives dr plus t7 health affix for free
also flame reave is only 50% converted so the more lightning damage isn't that crazy
Full fire would be more damage
dr
Hitting a t7 health increase on titan its like you almost at the 100% increase value by using that
isn't so much an issue
what is an issue then x)
Idk 🤣
800 corr with 1.5 k health is too low for me
Ah so we don't need defense
we need defense
for ward you want the ward on melee hit idols they're lit
people will gaslight you into taking damage idols don't listen to them
the ward idols are nasty
for fast hitting spellblade builds they're legit one of the biggest sources of ward available
i get 40% increased health and a 0.85 coef dr from titan heart
but from static shell i get to something like 90% of armor cap, 80ish % physical dr and 49% dr on all other types
You can do Dexterity
that's a 0.51 coef on all damage hits
ye
vitality, int, dex
seems like the best options
Also
Remember this is only vs shocked enemies, a lot of the time you'll die to ranged enemies you haven't hit yet and the retaliation shock only happens after the first hit
even tho it does split my damage and complicates things
generic defense that's always there is always going to be better
i know i know, but aside from the plants that shoot some slow projectile from off screen, i haven't actually died to something like that except once in a blue moon
with 1 t 7 dexterity mod, i think i'll also be able to free up 1 crit point on the more crit vs ignited, so i can take the last aoe node
when i get enough attack speed from gloves and primordial helmet, i'll have whole screen coverage with the giant flame reave every half second
i might just unspec those 2 points tho, for now i have my permanent shock chance from one of my idols, but once i get the bis idols for potion spam, i'll need some % cooldown recovery on belt probably for 100 uptime on enchant weapon to get chance to shock without the fire/lightning flame reave,
once that's done, that's 2 points freed i can put towards the 12% aoe node left of the tree
reason i have the lightning blast proc on flame reave tree for now is for the 25% less damage taken from lightning aegis on lightning blast cast
but that won't be necessary at all to keep 100% uptime once i get the potion setup on jungle queen i'll be able to spam surge for 4 lightning blast cast each time
can you get 2 experimental affixes through this?
No
You can't ever get experimental affixes with glyph of chaos (but can't get 2 experimentals through any means anyway)
so Havoc runes dont show up in prophecies? or just super rare?
They do but are very rare higher corruption also should spawn more
You need to stack a lot and pop the prophecies cause if you get like 3 at a time you may be disappointed
if i put two Rune lenses into the telescope, does that stack?
Yes they do but the ones that double uses they dont
The 2 multiplicative ones that add cost to prophecy dont ,rest yes
tyty
There is no "havoc rune" prophecy, to be clear, they can just be dropped by the generic "runes" prophecies that just give you random runes.
ah good to know, thanks
is Torment Warlock Still the same? I dropped the game for a long time lol
Yeah it's still decent
Feel like it is better to start with Necro first ...Can I change later?
yeah, but it does cost gold per level
kinda hard to do first time thru campaign
I will just play Necro then
So we know what the weighting is for different runes in those prophecies?
For the prophecies themselves or for the "runes" prophecy? For random runes proph, presumably it just goes off their reroll chances same way it does uniques, etc.
is there somewhere I can view those reroll chances?
Found it
Yeah, LE Tools has them and probably TunkLab also
but I find it pretty difficult to search for them
Yeah, it's not super intuitive, and I am not aware of anywhere that has calculated out the actual drop rates
oh that's alright, I can do that
I just mean if I want to find "rune of havoc" on letools, I find it difficult to search for
Like...there's nothing for crafting materials on the left bar
anyway, I've got it sorted
Oh, there is a page for just runes
It's down in the "other" category along with the weird items like blessings
lol, didn't realize I could scroll down
FWIW, I've calculated the expected value of Havoc Runes from the 88 generic rune prophecy to be 1.07
which like...god that's so bad
It also is lower than expected, under what I've experienced
makes me doubt some aspect of the calculation
Oh, I forgot to double it for rank 12 CoF bonus
So 2.14. That matches my experience more or less
Question rq - if an item is corrupted I can still feed it into a Unique right?
no
Unfort but ty for the info
If I remember correctly our materials from season don't get transferred to non-seasonal (runes of havoc, key items from the ressource tab, woven echoes, etc.) right?
They do
I didn't know mirrored items was a thing o_O
somehow I remembered my season 3 materials not being transfered
you can only get that in this specific woven echo
otherwise you can only use rune of creation on exalted items to make them look mirrored
Lightless harbor too
Did you click "merge stash"?
how you guys think I should farm idol altars and omen idols?
Pinnacle of chaos
Its by far the best for altars
alright ty man, was doing omen's veils but after spending quite a lot of time I'm still not able to drop a decent one
gonna try pinacles then
Added system to display a mirrored item sprite for items that are legitimate duplicates, such as from the Vaults of Uncertain Fates to help resolve confusion around duplicate items
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-the-imperial-uprising-event-patch-notes/73753#bug-fixes-22
If I remember correctly, people saw the legit dupes on Merchant's Guild Bazaar and were confused. So they added the mirrored sprites to help
I see, this is like shiny pokemons !!!
they're so cool
Yeah, people were saying that someone's using dupe glitch
I really need to dig more into it, I guess only random drops can be mirored
Gauntlet of Strife is another spot you get the mirrored duplicate item. So you can mess around with the crafting altar there. Before that, it was just from the Lightless Arbor end of dungeon vault. Some of the vault door mods is for duplicate items
You can get mirrrored stuff from Lightless Arbor end chests
what happens if you put mirrored items in weaver tree slots, do you get mirrored copies?
Example Lightless Arbor vault door mod: "Duplicates all unique items from every Chest This is additive with other item duplication effects"
Probably not. The Imprints aren't exactly the same
Have fun testing : )
it does imprint mirrored !
crossing fingers
Yeah I just expect the drop to be regular
MUAHAHAHAH
you mean this? https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/crafting-mats
shiny items duplication
new meta guys
you guys don't have mirored items??? 😎 meh .....
x,))
Imagine if mirrored uniques only approved mirrored exalted items 🤔
ahahahahah
thanks to the devs for adding that, I will be hunting them from now on, I think only random drop can be shiny like this
would have been very cool to build only with shinies.... : D
Neat!
Yeah, thats so cool, I will be making a reroll just to build only with shinies ! : D
I'm not sure if there's anywhere else besides Gauntlet of Strife and Lightless Arbor vault where you can get them
yeaaaaaah, gauntlet of strife then
Hunt for mirrored red ring begins
dude !
you'r a genius
My altar can not be filter search with 2t7 option
I think it's because the second one is sealed
You can not find any 2t7 tho i just think it might not added to altar search yet ?
Hmm it's possible I guess but that would be weird
Maybe it not intended to get 2 t7 on altars 🫣
How do Item drops work? Assuming a specific unique drops, what was the way to get there?
My assumption is that the rolls go
- roll for Base Type
- roll for rarity (succeed the unique roll, fail the set roll afterwards)
- roll for the unique
- roll for LP/WW and roll for modvalues
Is that correct?
Sounds about right yeah.
is there a regex guide somewhere for LE regex? for looking through tabs of rings for specific mods
or is regex standardized
Regex is standardized but LE has some macros, like if you want to find rings you can just type ring, if you want a tier 7 mod you can type T7, two tier 7 mods you can type 2T7, etc. anything that's not a macro you'll want to wrap in / and between each thing you wanna put &
So if I want a boot with fire res I'd type "boot&/fire res/" or something
"T7&intelligence" for rings with intelligence and a t7 mod
anyway to only show t7 int,
?
any way*
There is a way through regex alone but let me see if there's a macro maybe
im okay with learning a bit of regex, i used to know how to do that for poe map sorting
#👑┃item-showcase message
when i use mirrored items for slams are the same affixes guaranteed? or did i just get lucky
random
dayum
my luck good today
could that be because i sunbathed
xD
dayum 66 forging potential is a lot no?
might be able to get 2T7 i like onto those, vitality is already ok with me
You'd need to do it like this:
/1[4-6] intelligence/&ring
it matches anything with 14-16 intelligence and is a ring
Make sure you give each digit its own range otherwise it won't work, in this case the tens place is always 1 so I didn't need to do a range at all, but if it for example wanted T7 cold res on a ring I'd have to do:
/[6-7][1-5]% Cold Resistance/&ring
[6-7][1-5] would match from 61-75, you can't do [61-75]
If you want more info, these three patch note pages talk about the various stash macros and regex
- Season 2 https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-patch-1-2-3-notes/77541#ui-visuals-and-movement-13 - scroll down a little
- Season 3 https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-beneath-ancient-skies-patch-notes/78635#heading--qol - also down about a page in the Stash Macros section
- Season 4 https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-shattered-omens-patch-notes/80571#heading--qol-stash
There's also a support page for it
yea I usually just go to the support page
idk if it has the complete list though, regardless I'll type up a message so we can link to it more easily and can put some additional tips and tricks for general regex in
It's missing a few things, but it has most of it
Actually this is the page I meant to link https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/articles/46361652732955-Stash-Searching
It's missing the season 4 additions and some of the crafting altar macros. But it's got most of the stuff
for stash configuration, is there any way to only get T7 items autosorted? or is there currently not a way to separate T6s from T7s?
😭
Ps5 release when? Been waiting forever
Wait, we can autostash?
ye, you have to assign properties to a stash
tho
its a bit of an unfinished feature
to have a stash reserved for certain types of items you to do it in a roundabout way locking out everything else
There hasn't been a date announced. Probably after Season 5. We're currently in Season 4.
is there a stash qol update comin up on s5 ?
i have a couple additions which would signifficantly increase qol regarding stash in my head, i need to compile that at some point
This post from December 2025 is the only info I'm aware of about possible upcoming things. https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/looking-ahead-in-last-epoch/80230
ctrl f'd for 'stash' i didn't find anything
where is it supposed to be?
lul my bad xD
when i do 2 affix rules side to side its a logical 'or'? it seems so from my testign
I just got to the point in the campaign where I go to bless Heorot's lance. I'm level 45, is it worth it to finish the campaign or should I just head to Monoliths and start trying to put my end game build together?
Should be and
hmm
ye nvm
summer heat got to me
my brain is frying
thanks x)
there are exceptions tho
i want items to show with a select few mods (or empty affix spot) + a t6 + a t7
with that
and that setup to filter for that
below
for some reason the total of affixes overrides individual level of affix restriction on this one
so if you have too high a total of affix tiers, even if you don't have a t6 to complement the t7, rule will still show it
FK ME
nvm
it was another rule that was showing it
resolved
😭
Your advanced settings here are super weird
.
on the first affix condition your advanced options do literally nothing and on the second one it won't hit items you'd want it to
yeah this doesn't do that
well it kinda does but it's still super weird how you've made it x)
having individual affix tier set to 1 or higher does literally nothing
any 2 affix total tier 13 of above
yeye this one i can just uncheck
I'll log in and check your rule is so weird that it's confusing me lul
haha
im just usin high school logic
ah
french
cuz
i am baguette
well
nvm
why not do it like this
same affixes in both
so one will have to be T6 and the other T7
no
because i don't care what affix is t6 or t7
yes this does that
and the logic is like 10x more intuitive, at least for me
Like I kinda get what you're trying to do but you're overcomplicating it for no real reason lol
but for my use case its ok, the prefixes im lookin for are either gonna be t6-7 or i havoc slam
not really, just 2 different use cases, with yours you can differentiate which you'd at least want t7 and the other t6, but since i haven't needed it like that i haven't done it like that is about as deep as it goes x)
I mean yours should have worked I don't get what the issue even is
it did it did, when i was reworking my filter rules, i didn't see that a lower rule was showing items i didn't want shown
x)
i had a secondary rule for sub-par rings below my rule havocable rings that i had forgotten about
and another rule to account for those exalted rings with empty prefix slots
can exalted items (rares in essence) have only 2 mods?
I think you want similar so your original rule, 13 tiers of any affix at least t6 meaning 77 76 666 etc would show. Then can copy rule and do one with a condition having specific affix, another with open prefix, etc.
Yes. Even single T7 items sometimes drop
ok cool
did 3 variations total
to account for every possible crafting scenario
also lowered the tier of the secondary best to t5 from t6 will see how it feels
i might bring it back to t6
1 affix usually ends up being surprisingly useless by account of how easy it is to just brick fp before you get what you want
but t7+t6 is decently rare already
Annoying part with 76 is that they both move when usually you want 1 affix as the 7
Can't seal 6, also hit by redemption, etc. 76 crafting is annoying. But at least they are plentiful vs 77
Seperate
guess what
mine ended up showing things wrong again i worked my way through it and ended up right there xD
checks out x)
except
you have to have the first affix condition have the total account for secondary + the t7
otherwise
they can overlap
and show single t7s
but ye
pretty much
x)
yes but you don't need the total affix tiers stuff
just do t6+ on the first one
matching 2 affixes
and t7 on the second one
matching 1 affix
no need to touch the total affix tiers
right now the first rule will show wrong stuff
change it from 5 to 6 and just get rid of the total affix tiers option
that would still show single t7s
no it wouldn't
i'll test it out
change it to this
same affixes in both
I forgot to change the first rule to 2 affixes before, this does exactly what you want
ye nvm i was wrong my brain got numb when i looked at
and realised it did indeed work without total
as a rule of thumb for the future, if you start touching the total affix tiers setting you're likely overcomplicating it or doing something wrong
you pretty much never need it
only use it if you're absolutely sure it's the only way to get the outcome you want, which is pretty much never. Because it's super easy to missuse it otherwise
wth is this
that
is
vile
is it intentional that all dot effects are this strong compared to hit damage x)
Not sure i'd say it's intentional but DOTs are very lethal in LE in general
-_-
tuuuune it dooooown
xD
or have area pene not work for dot or something
or work half as much
wathever
something
xD
They did make the more damage from corruption work half as much for DOT, and also nerfed most things that apply DOT
it's still very frequently an issue lol
-_-
i mean...what are you standing in the middle of a giant bug swarm for? that killing blow was only 300...you were standing in it for a good bit
unless you got greedy and were looting in the middle of a fight
Dots are way to overtuned still in LE
Even after all this changes its still a solid problem at least the strongest enemy in the game the sludge dont one shot anymore fas stronger than shade and uber that mob was
the sludge was so stupid
you probably had like 20+ stacks. it adds up fast
you're not wrong. cleanse on boots #1 non build prio on everyone
second tic of dot killed me, first one did something like 4k health
only thing i know is this was the first time i saw that spell effect, it took what looked like twice the size of my screen xddddd
tried to run away, only realized it look like a 'eye of the storm' situation once i died
this, is not noob friendly xDddd
it does look cool af
would love to play some sort of dot applying eye of the storm righteous fire kinda build
like, you have to keep your distance against tough monsters to apply your dot
that'd be a cool build
Thats not how dots work
Having armor % applies to dots its a stat that is good and kinda mandatory in the endgame , cleanse also fixes stuff like poison
?
in screenshot it says killing blow 300 something
i can assure you
my whole ward + hp disappeared in half a second
3.5 k or so gone instantly
anyway
im at 900 corr
so
its kinda expected
but it is annoying how little dot dr there is
But stuff like the fire lizard can
Still that looks more like a hit than an actual dot
there wasnt any other mob around, i didnt get hit
Dot skills dont randomly change dmg that much
i just walked into chernobyl
There is a stat that gives dot dr based on a certain amount armor you have try to get some gloves with this slammed
If its the fire pool of lizard you have to react quick specially you with alike no dr
But skills really dont
Another reason why titan hearth is great 👍
my enchant weap might have cleansed the stacked dot before it got reapplied for a small dot killing blow
is my guess
xD gang
if i took titan heart
id get my cheeks clapped at every turn
xDddd
Thats what you think xd
15% dr and t7 health goes very well rather
is so far apart, its not worth it for 15% global dr and 40% of life im not investing in raw added health
how much health is t7 health ?
Armor does nothing vs dots BTW but all dr and endurance work on everything
i also need +4 to flame reave in addition to t7 health not an easy find
for fks sake i know that mate
the keys for dungeons have an equal droprate right?
.
i got equal amount of each after 3 weeks play
is all ill say
thats lucky... i only got 2 of the temporal keys compared to 20 of the other ones...
Rng does rng things
+1
Afaik there is no weighting on dungeon keys
👆
how much corruption you running ?
havent exactly been pushing corruption till yesterday, but im at 240 rn
couldnt figure out for the life of me how to push it
i get like 2 of each every echo or so at 900 corr
damn
im planning to push to 400 corruption by tomorrow, but my build still have flaws in it
you gotta go further out for shade of orobyss to be more likely to spawn is my experience
mostly been getting lightless arbor keys the most
tho, you can get him pretty early on too
but ye just farm stability
also if you re taking 15 min for a map, unless you have no movement speed, get better filter
too much clutter will slow you down
i take 3 mins at most
ah yes, the totally easily obtainable pinnacle uber boss drop ^^'
but ye
depending if im maxing out the stability or going through the nodes as fast as possible
thats in the works, immortal vise and the relic from threshold
You dont need that item ,that stat exist on gloves as an experimental affix and you can put it on any exalt gloves BTW by using the forge in the exiles mages echo,eternal gloves has that stat as an implicit
Where can I find my damned chance...?
And are global chances (such as ignite and damned) the same as "ignite chance with fire skills"?
No those are not the same
hey pros, how do you make a filter rule to show items with 1 empty prefix slot? like -7xx
thank you 🫡
HI, it seems that my stash is missing 1 item. There is no way i have dropped it or sold it. putting it into stash was my first thing i did when i got it. how can i know for sure what happend to it?
You cant
Once you leave an area that area is deleted and everything in it
Devs dont track individual items
So unless its in the forge or eternity cache or something of the like, its gone
Not sure if it's on the char sheet or not, but generic/global ignite chance does implicitly give ignite chance to your fire skills for example
Global ignite chance is on the character sheet yeah
Yeah for sure, they only asked where their damned chance is though
That one I don't remember if it's added or not (but either way, a lot of damned/ignite chance might be for the right tagged skills, and that definitely doesn't show)
If it's not on the character sheet, as a work around, import your character to https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/, click on Offense tab, and scroll down to Damned.
There's an Import button on left side. Account name is what is listed on Social screen, default H key, and Character name is on the screen screen, default C key.
holy shit how much ward retention does uber abberoth have
None
Boss ward doesn't work the same
It decays over time at an increasing rate
But you loose dps anyway
You'll do more dmg by doing more dmg and not waiting for the ward to decay
im just trying to stay alive xD
It will take quite a while to wait it out
More damage you do, shorter the fight, less opportunity to get 1 shot or get bad overlapping mechanics
does rarity influence prophecy drops?
corruption
or is it single impact through how much favor you can farm
Higher corruption makes prophecy drop better uniques overall although as you know it scales kinda bad the bonus to lp that corr gives
Just more favor and corruption's minor effect on LP chance
rarer uniques do have a better spawn ratio tho is what im understanding? or does corruption strictly and only influence lp?
because from previous discussions with community mods, rarity just transforms rares and such into uniques is what i got from that, not sure how that'd translate to higher rarity uniques in prophecies
No, only LP.
Corruption does increase rarity of drops which means you get more uniqie drops on average, but unique prophs have fixed rarity so increasing rarity has no effect on them.
And rarity also has no impact on WHICH unique drops anyway, right?
inside of a rarity (like unique) all that matters is reroll chance, and that's unaffected by corruption
what does reroll chance mean?
like it has to roll on it twice ? 0.02*0.02 kinda deal to random drop it?
It's basically a reverse weight system in a way
When a unique wants to drop in LE it just picks a random unique from the pool of eligible items and then with the reroll chance it'll either reroll to a different unique or stay on the unique it's rolling and drop it
so for red ring. Whenever a unique wants to drop, and it happens to land on red ring, it will with a 98% chance say nah and roll for a unique again. which can land on red ring again
and with a 2% chance it will actually drop a red ring when it lands on it
LETools has Increased Crit Chance as an available affix on Huge (1x4) and Large Omen (1x3) idols, but I don't see that affix available to select in my loot filter. Is LETools wrong or is it just missing from the filter?
which class
make sure you're looking at both generic and class specific affixes
Hmm, I see what you mean. Setting a filter Affix: Assassin's with Item Type: Huge Idol 1x4 size, it works. Picture 1.
But setting Affix: Assassin's with Item Type: Large Idol 1x3 size - for an Omen Idol, it then clears the affix after you pick Large Idol or doesn't list Assassin's if you pick Large Idol first. Picture 2.
I'll post on Dammit's Discord, the person that runs LE Tools, and ask about it.
omen idols are special, search the name of the Affix not what it does
I am.... that's why I mentioned "Assassin's"
ah yeah that's a bit of an edge case I guess since omen idols are large but don't share their affix pool with other large idols
and do not select large idol, since it cannot have that affix, the LE filter needs an update
something like that, I couldn;t match idol type with affix
I have filter lines using Large and Grand for Omen Idols and it does work with some other affixes. But yeah, just trying to narrow down if it's a game issue or LE Tools issue.
You could do an idol type rule that hits all idols and then just put a hide rule for huge and stout idols right above it
and then have your show huge and show stout idol rules above that
Bit convoluted but I think it would be a workaround for now
If I get a response, I'll let y'all know. If it's an issue with the in game filter, I'll put in a bug report for it later.
do we know base weighting? before reroll chance?
i've been farming at 950 corr for a while now
haven't seen one
There are none
the reroll chance is the weighting
been spamming rings prophecies too
red ring is around one in 700 unique rings
kinda
hmmm
the math isn't that simple
it's one in around 700 unique rings like I mentioned
So you could have surpassed 2000 unique rings without one and it wouldn't be anything weird, just unlucky
with 700 attempts you only have like a 66 % chance of actually dropping it
gotta start praying to rngesus fr
yep
I can in a bit
no problem, thanks
Ahhh I think that's what I missed, I was looking at rogue specific idol affixes. But yeah sounds like from Sweetgoat there may be something funky with the omen idol version.
@icy drift ye my filter might be broken or something
for some reason this wasn't showing
even tho its checked in my rare-extremely rare uniques
oh my god
i forgot
lol
well yeah no shit x)
it doesn't show non weaver items who don't have weaver's will
i forgot
i noticed that
but forgot to change it
welp
i just checked one stack of rings
almost guaranteed i let one slip..
rip
and got ocae
next stack
-_-
ye
i definitely missed an atlaria or two
That's why I always make my filter defensively, I don't hide stuff until I'm 100% sure my recolour/show rules show it
as in I'll just keep a show all uniques rule at the very top
ngl, there's too much stuff to not hide everything
you can just turn it on and off
Obviously once I'm sure it's showing stuff properly I hide everything
but you weren't and still hid everything x)
Don't trust it or yourself until you test it is basically what I'm getting at
well
i noticed the weaver's will condition fkin with non weaver at some point
i think
i got distracted by something else when i did
and forgot to make the change
😂
🫡
@icy drift
fkin instantly
nice lol
just the 1 prophecy
xDDDD
bruh
i must have missed
10 at least
xDDd
(im ded inside)
nemesis it ?
then imprint
is the way?
confirming
cuz at this point
im not trusting myself on wether water is something i should drink
yep
im seeing so many uniques i used to see but didn't anymore for some reason now 👀
is this affected by cooldown recovery rate? 👀
CDR only effects things directly on the skill bar
@rugged veldt @quick thorn good suggestion guys 🙂
I'll be the first to ask the community: everybody staying hydrated?
On my 3rd large coffee of the day so making sure to get in my fluids.
On my first sip of water
does beer count?
Definitely not
I highly recommend beer in this game. It is 50 + 4 x your character level which helps out a lot when you play HC Maso Mcfluffin!
In that case I'm good to go!
So if I wanna live I should drink beer? sounds reasonable
does anyone have any idea of the best way to get smoke weavers? I need two for my BD but I have no idea of any semi efficient way to get it
Best option currently is to push the level 55 Mono as far as you can go. This keeps any uniques above 55 out of the drop pool.
that's... a really good idea
way better than me just spending all my gold at the gambler lol
Yeah since it's a level 1 base but can't be gambled until 55, the smart loot system makes that base really unlikely to show up, so it's a massive gold sink to try and gamble it
Does anyone know what the green text on some items means vs. not being on others?
Have you looked at a set item recently? There's a bug that can randomly make text green, orange, or purple if you've looked at a corresponding item
Ah yes that seems to be it. Thanks for the advice fam 🙏
is there anything fun I can do with two eye's of reen? it seems like a pretty solid sword
any DW melee ignite build
no specific builds really enabled by it or anything?
now I just need to figure out what to play then
Not really, it just gives a fuckton of melee ignite
Any particular recommendations for dw ignite builds? Warpath maybe?
I have a DW rive Ignite build that actually does pretty well. I just do the pull in and it does pretty well.
the reens don't double proc for reference
Correct. My offhand is a Attack speed, Ignite, Life on hit (I really like how much healing it gives me but this could be Chill or something else if you need it) 2 eyes of reen are about 100% more ignite over a rare but I feel like Attack speed and either Fire/More melee damage better for my offhand
Ask me anything primalist.
Why does the Primalist refuse to take a bath?
Why does the Primalist look so much like Mike?
But they do provide the highest amount of melee ignite chance it's possible to get on a weapon on the fastest melee base. It would be interesting to know what the breakpoint would be where the additional melee attack speed of a crafted offhand would give you more ignites per second compared to a second Eye of Reen.
Bit of a question regarding Bone curse, if a minion hits a target I have put bone curse on and triggers the 15% health execute from the bone curse tree, does that count as me killing them?
Yeah, that's kinda how I see it as well
so if something gets taken to 15% health when a minion hits it it'll get killed by the bone curse 15% life execution and thus count as me killing it
Reason I'm wondering is I'm theorycrafting a necromancer for the chonker patch next week, and think having the bone curse with execute together with a chance to get bone armour when I kill things would be a neat combo
@noble rose yes it works in that manner. I utilize it in most of my necro builds. Cursed Limbs to spread the bone curse and allow my minions to negate a portion of the enemy’s health.
Ah, dope
Pretty cool way to be able to get on kill effects on minion builds
My plan for it is going up to entreat the damned and down to bone feas and sigil of mortality
also picking up 5/5 points in defile defenses, going as much armour shred as I can with this build
WHY CANT I FIX SCREEN RES
Is the settings tab completely messed up? Nothing showing up etc?
Delete your le_graphicsmanager
You can find it in C:\Users\your user\AppData\LocalLow\Eleventh Hour Games\Last Epoch
Once you launch the game again it will create the file again but this time it shouldn't be corrupted
Probably defaulted to some super small resolution. Just change it ingame
What resolution is your monitor?
1920 x 1080 boss
If you open the new file does it say 1920 x 1080 at the bottom? Next to the resolution
Alright! Have fun with the game 🙂
if I'm making a poison build, do I double dip for some bleed or do I stick with poison?
get some bleed & convert it to poison
what's the best way to do that?
I'm currently planning on using acidfletch hail of arrows
some Rogue skills have a bleed -> poison conversion node.
gotcha
The Acid Rain node would do what you want
but you might get that by default using the Acid Fletch bow
oh lol I already had that node planned, guess I can't read
for the same build, poison tipped on the rogue tree or barbed arrows on marksman?
Both, though the only thing you're getting from Barbed Arrows is bleed chance which is converted to poison.
so poison tipped would be higher priority, thanks
definitely, since barbed arrows is only 5% compared to 10% for the other one
I thought I'd at least get something out of phys, but I suppose not with 100% of the damage converted to poison
Does the ethereal arrows marksman node buff my poison damage with poison hail of arrows?
I'm having trouble figuring out how to scale my damage
is there any disadvantage to skiping timeline levels?
Some basic loot filter questions (playing ranged ice minions): I am using a variant of HLCs loot filter and its showing me any acolyte mods on gear, any acolyte related idols ect. as well as tons of trash magic weapons. I feel like most of these I find are useless but want to know if these things are safe to hide? Or is there a better way to find a very strict "everything you see you pick up" filter. Also is there any way to highlight shards or other important items with beams/ground markers/highlights like uniques have?
@balmy current that's because primalists are clean on the inside.
Idk for that particular filter, but some things with specific mods may be shown so you can shatter them. Especially the +level shards are really rare to find unless you shatter for them.
Currently you can check the emphasis box and that will make it stand out more.
Hard to tell why some things are being shown but if you give some examples we could take a guess.
By skipping the timeline, you will end up not having all the blessings. The fall of the outcast, black sun, ending the storm, reign of dragon, age of winter, spirits of fire are the ones you should do
Rest are drop rate related
Drop related blessings are also important. What I usually do when the build can is 55-65-75-55-60-70-80-85
No since they only add flat bow damage & elemental bow damage.
You can rush the right-side of the monolith to unlock the empowered monoliths then do all of them to get the empowered drop blessings
My builds are not good enough to unlock empowered. And I must confess I'm little interested in empowered timelines. I only unlocked them with one hero, I'm about to unlock with another one. My most advanced other heroes are entering timeline 85 and will probably not be strong enough to handle timelines 90. Poorly skilled player I am.
If you're unable to do the empowered monoliths for whatever reason then rushing them isn't for you, & I'd count skipping the left-hand monoliths in that.
Agreed
Hi folks. Is there a source of crit vuln for mobs or am I free to take all crit mods as soon as I gathered crit avoidance?
If you are referring to my HCL,.... My filter does not filter any weapon types besides very low lvl base types.
Since my filter is not build specific.it's impossible to reliably filter thing without being build specific.
Also keep in mind "Magic Items" are not necessarily trash in LE.
They are usually the best crafting bases, since finding a magic item with 2 desired affixes is way more likely than finding a rare with 3-4 desired affixes.
All I can suggest you is adding some more specific hide rules for weapon types you don't even consider using, regardless of their affixes
the loot beams/icons/sounds are coming later since its a heavily requested one
I would personally recommend using the build planner and planning out the build then use the ingame loot filter for the affixes/bases
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
the loot filter changes coming next patch are fucking amazing (especially for idols)
the loot filter in general is VERY easy to learn (its not like POE's where you have to know how to code)
Build Planner that allows to customize any aspect of Last Epoch character build including equipment, passives and skills
I guess my questions should probably be for the creator of the filter and not the base filter
I am just used to a filter that ONLY shows me stuff I want to pick up, and by default I was seeing a lot of garbage magic items that aren't even worth reading
By default there is none, however in my experience mobs with high crit chance can get in crits with the monolith's crit modifier
I mainly ask about the beams and highlighting as I have terrible eyesight and seeing shards on the ground is way harder than something like brightly highlighted chaos orbs in poe
I'm extremely new so I dont actually know the bases I want and hoped a filter would help with that
is the smite animation bug known yet?
By default it was showing at or below ilevel bases for like every weapon with any affix and I really don't think I should be picking up every weapon unless there is some reason I dont know about
you can have it so the filter hides all normals/magics/rares = all trash
and ONLY show you what you want to see
but for that you would have to setup your filter really good with the bases/affixes
Thats what I was trying to do yeah
Guess I need to do more research into what my build needs
I'm just getting a headache over all this and want to play the game lol
haha I get it
it can get intimidating but once you learn the filter it will be worth the struggle 😅
I'm just going to default to hiding more than I need rather than showing more
I can always just craft my own stuff off vendor bases
however in my experience mobs with high crit chance can get in crits with the monolith's crit modifier
So is it like crit chance higher than 100 going through crit avoidance?
for example at the end chest
this is what I see with the filter I setup for my build
Im seeing the armour cause I have a rule for class specific affixes for all classes (shattering ofc)
Try working with the level filter option "max usable level" it basically takes your character level and does only the highest level base for each given type that is less than your level.
What does ilevel even affect, is it shown? None of the items I had showed it and it seemed like the implicit rolls were the same an an endgame version of say a turquoise amulet
I'm playing minions so I dont care about weapon pdps at all so my understanding is I dont need to show weapons at all if they don't have affixes I want
There is no ilvl. Just level requirement
A deicide sword is the same no matter what you drop it from
But a weapon that requires level 60 is gonna have better implicit stats than a weapon that requires 20
In addition, there are weapons and armor with implicits that will work with minions
Are they different implicit ranges though?
Like from what I say a turquoise amulet always can roll up to 35 minion damage
So the roll depends on the level req?
Yeah and that is the only amulet that does it
Roll is always same ranfe
And turquoise always requires same level
Ok
But my understanding is I cant filter more than 1 thing on an item
So I cant filter both max level AND an explicit mod right
You can filter base type, affixes (not implicits)
Since if it hits one condition it ignores all below right
Yea you can combine
Each condition can have more than one part
So I can say "base type = x" and "rarity = magic" for one condition
And also add in a "has Z affix"
Lemme show example, give me a few min to turn pc on
My goal is just to not have to pick up trash and read useless magic items but thats what the filter i was using was showing me
It was made by some rank 1 minion player so I thought there was something I was missing
I think I am just going to look for a better filter because frankly I don't understand anything about the game to actually know what I need
Just to show what I use basically
This is the second rule there, its a combination of these two things
You could put rare, magic and normal in 1 condition only
^
Yeah I just like having individual toggles for them
ahhhhhhhh I see
Im really excited for monday 🙂
Give it time and you'll get a feel for it
I'm pretty close to dropping it lol
This just feels like trying to mess with linux
I mean if you want I can give you my filter. Its not tuned for minion though, but I use it on every character.
I do not think the filter will be able to do what I want it to do
What do you actually want it to do?
That would be appreciated
I just think the one I got had some optional conditions enabled or something
I basically just want to pick up everything my filter shows me and not have to actually read stuff on the ground and waste time
So anything thats not a base I will use or some with stats I want to craft on or shatter
And I assume you also want sets uniques and exalteds showing?
I do understand there are limitations like not being able to set conditions on implicit ranges so ill have to pick up a lot of bases to find good rolls
Yeah
primalist or acolyte?
Its acolyte cold minions
I guess my biggest thing is trying to get off my max efficiency mindset
I use like an uber strict poe filter for zoom zoom and magic items even showing up just gives me a headache
this is a decent starting point at least maybe. Someone else might have better.
My friends recommended me LE but they are far more causal in poe and as someone who fully engaged in high end poe crafting LE feels super shallow
Thanks friend
The first and second rules are the ones you would want to adjust. The third one is just showing all rings and amulets but you could filter those down by base type
The first rule is recoloring red for shatter. It has most of the class specific affixes and cdr and movespeed
There is room for tweaks there though
Second rule is saying to show any item with a base type close to your level and at least one minion related affix
you could add a tier requirement to that as well to further limit
this is my filter but its very specific to my build
the loot filter changes that are coming will be making the filter more strict but it will be much better
since you will be able to make it so it shows you lets say "show me items with at least these 2 affixes/tiers"
you will of course be able to choose the affixes from the list
Alright gamers. If I am wanting to roll a unique wep thats level 6, and I am like level 70, can I go farm in level 6 zones or will the loot scale to me? I can't roll for the base reliably because the base might show once in every 60 refreshes or so.
loot scales to area level, so yes you can do that.
Thanks. Would a level 5 area be able to drop it or does the zone have to be > the item requirement of 6
The zone needs to be higher than the item level.
Do two of the same set item count toward the set bonus (such as with rings or dual wield)?
Nope. At least, not with rings. Just checked.
hey i have the quest "ruined world" lvl 18 and should travel east to a temple, cant find the main quest symbol
You tried using your map (M) to see if you're missing something?
Thx
Anyone else encounter delays with some whisper messages? Where they will send a minute or two later, but only some of them?
A full minute later? No. But all whispers always seem to take 1-3 seconds longer to send than normal messages.
is it worth keeping two copies of shard of the shattered lance?
Thats up to you. I keep 2 copies of all uniques but thats because i just want to. There might be a time when you might want to DW th em but I cant think of a reason right now
hey guys, would you say mage - spellblade is a good starter build for a complete new player? (boardman21's guide on forums)
Spellblade's a good tanky character with the amount of ward on hit they can get.
thank you, lets see how far it takes me 😄
Don't be too worried about trying stuff out, respeccing passives is easy (pink brain gal in the council chambers/end of time) & skills level up faster after you've respecc'd them down far enough.
Love that about this game, coming from trying PoE as my first ARPG and bricking builds and trying to comprehend 15 leagues of stuff was a total brain burner.
how expensive is it for me to reskill? i am lvl 25 on my very first character and i am bit overwhelmed
Changing your skills is just a matter of time. You'll spec new skills and get several points back, so you'll have to farm an already done zone to get xp and level the new skills. No other cost
oh i think i was talking about my passives as well, sorry for confusing
is the gold price icnreasing?
The more points you put in the same passive, the more gold you need to pay to remove them; it's fairly manageable though.
thanks, guess i will farm some gold:)
best way might be to sell the rares?
or blues aswell?
nah, rely on the autopickups. Rares aren't worth selling. You may also sell uniques for 500 gold, they also drop fairly often
ist it also possible to respec sorcerer into spellblade?
no, mastery is bound to your character once you choose it
ty
which lootfilter is recommended? or should i delist all blues for example?
Blues can be really good for crafting, I'd personally recommend either finding a lootfilter to import from the forums or just making your own, slightly changing and adding to it as you go and seeing what works
First, start by recoloring what you're looking for and don't hide anything. Then, when you're happy with it, you can add a "hide all" at the end and change "recolor" for "show"
While I understand what you would like to have.
It's not that easy to do in LE without getting build specific.
My Loot Filter is meant for a baseline, that is as generic as possible, while also highlighting relatively rare affixes and idols.
But I just want to emphasize again. Magic Items in LE are not trash, due to how the crafting system works.
A Tier 5-10 Magic Item is one of the most common base that can lead to T20 Items.
The devs did state that they don't have immediate plans for beams, icons or sounds, since those things would give players the avenue to ruin their game experience and they might also be performance concerns.
Just because it's a very common request doesn't automatically mean it's making it's way to the game certainly
they also said that it wouldn't be like dropping an mp3
cause POE loot filter happens 😅
Do not hide magic(blue items), they are the most common and best crafting bases currently.
Yes I know. I didn't want to give too much details here.
But it seems that you are aware of the devs stance about this.
Why did you state "it's coming later", that sounds like it's already certain, that this feature is coming^^
I mean the tech is already there with uniques/sets....only makes sense
but those features aren't a priority right now obviously
Just because the tech is there still doesn't make it a certain feature, where the player will have control.
While I personally would like that feature too, I just think we as a community should not make any definite statements what will or will not come, if no dev gave a precise answer regarding a given topic.
Also if you don't mind the shameless self-plug.
I did create a generic loot filter for every class.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-1h-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2a/25176?u=heavy
Hey there, I decided to work on some loot filters, for more casual players that don’t want to bother to much with the new Loot Filter that much. Those Loot Filters are also a great template to create your personal Loot Filter. Overview: What are those Loot Filters doing? Hide all Items not for your cla...
Yeah, I mean "the tech is there" to make Harvest a good melee skill...
Hey guys, I read the other day whlie I was playign that soon the multiplayer will be launched
and that our current characters cannot be played there right?
Is there any date for multiplayer?
Around the end of this year, yes
We'll keep our current characters but they will remain strictly offline
If you want to play online, you'll need to create new characters
is reduce enemy armor helpful when using minions (that only deal fire damage) or is this debuff useless for my build ?
Armor reduction will help your minions hit damage, but not their ignite damage if they have any.
i don't think i have ignite so i think i'm good then 🙂 thank you
nvm
does the chest you get after a monolith hold multiple runs or do i need to open it after each run
after each run
Hi is there a page I can post of my fan art drawing, p.s it mostly anime style character?
Start a forum post titled: "WeebLE, Fan Art" 😄
Google "weeble" to get the joke 😉
I would post them here https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/off-topic/24 Their forum section is very limited in the different places but I think that is the most appropriate place on the offical forums
OK thanks
How common are bans in this game? People were comparing general chat to the POE chat saying it was bad. Someone replied saying EHG themselves monitor the chat. I replied to that saying "Fuck EHG, all my homies like GGG." That is literally the only thing I did that possibly could have gotten me banned. Do the devs really get that upset about silly memes in their video game chat?
Bans aren't particularly common, but being generally respectful in chat is probably a good approach.
I wasn't being disrespectful. I was referencing a pretty common meme. Pretty damn embarrassing on their part tbh.
I wasn't there for the particulars of why your account was banned. Just offering general advice that could rule this sort of thing out. Could always check with support directly if you think the ban was unfair. Fortunately according to your ask-the-devs statement it seems to only be a 24 hour ban.
Yeah, I appreciate it. Don't mean to sound rude towards you. Just very frustrated about someone at the studio being butthurt and power tripping about something. I left the game a negative steam review months ago in regards to game issues and I was trying to give it another shot. This definitely isn't helping their case.
I mean i have 200 hours in the game and not once have i seen anyone make that joke, I’ve seen PoE simps in the chat, but EHG isn’t often in chat, however there are constant moderators.
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we don’t know what else you said. A lot of time when people said they could only have been banned for doing X, conveniently omit Y which they did
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No one has heard this “common meme” you speak of. Curious in which circle is it common. The hip thing is to hate on GGG and hail EHG as the saviour now. As with all situations of David vs Goliath.
thats why I have global disabled in POE/LE XD
its bad enough on the LE sub with people bitching about POE problems lmao
actually i think people still dog on any new ARPG.. especially poe players which some of them are like cultists
Discord chat is defintley the most mature platform in terms of discussion for the game
Nahhhh. Forum numba 1!
discord is better for quick questions and short opinions. forum is great for long form discussion.
Au contraire my good friend, general chat is great for long argum- I mean discussions!
by long form i was referring to the length of each post. Discord is 1-3 sentences at a time on the forum its very common to see multiple paragraphs
you can still do that on discord
can =/= better
i don't get it
The meme is well known lol
Hello so I'm having fun with this game but it's really the first time I'm playing a game like this. I got to level 20 and am just wondering about gear. Is there anything specific I should do with the forge or not yet?
Not yet, focus on levelling first
the forge is to get specific pieces of gear you want for lategame
i would say use the forge if you are struggling.
if hes only lvl 20 on his first time he wont have many shards
Craft as soon as you wish, but use only very common shards. I'd say mainly craft your weapon, it's your main damage source. You can also add a bit of resistances, but more around level 40.
And don't forget that in endgame, you will renew all your gear progressively
I'm doing fine so far. Died a couple times because I wasn't paying attention 😒 but roger that. I've just been selling everything that's not better than what I have equipped
focus on capping physical resistance and getting movement speed @lament pulsar
Depends how busy I am at work...
Still, good to see #❔┃ask-the-community has turned into #💬┃general
Is there a difference between the forge you find in certain areas and the normal crafting tab? I'm pretty sure its the same thing?
Also, multiplayer is still on the table for this year right?
no difference
^ and yes it is
and yes mp is still up
Thx for the quick response. Much obliged
is there a general agreement on when do you go for staves instead of 1H+offhand on casters?
Staves give more damage, offhand adds more crit possibility
is there a way to get Exsanguinous or i can only pray ?
No way to target farm it so gotta pray
thanks
I have noticed that it does drop more if you farm a level area that is its level. Since there is only like 4 unique chests that can drop. I get it mostly from my low level play throughs
The unique drop blessing would help, but you're going to have to pray to RNGesus that you get it on a drop.
It's a level 23 item, so farm it in a level 23 zone, that will help eliminate all level 24+ bases
hey yall im just wondering when making builds in this game do you focus on exactly one main skill? or do you use a few skills for damage?
Both, kinda. Really depends on the class tbh.
There are a lot of trigger chains you can do. Pretty sure every class has at least one, those are sometimes a good place to start.
kk thanks!
Hi guys, there ll be a wipe next monday? Can I start a new caracter this week-end then continued with the next patch?
No wipe
The devs already said they'll do a wipe if there is no way to avoid it, so no problem for Monday
Thansk
OBS question - I can't seem to get LE to show up on OBS. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone else having this issue?
I haven't, but I share my entire screen instead of just the game. You could try turning on streamer mode and see if that makes any difference
I dont usually have discord up when streaming so assume its not a discord interference issue. But yeah, if I share my whole screen its fine, its just the individual window thats a problem. Wasnt sure if anyone else had come up with a work around for window/game capture.
Oh yeah sorry I mean streamer mode in LE. There's a setting in the game that can often help with streaming issues, so it might be worth checking it and seeing what happens
Oh! I didnt know that was a thing. Thank you! I will try that.
That seemed to have helped! Thank you so much!
Awesome! Glad it worked 🙂
I literally said nothing else that could have been bannable, not that what I said was. I asked about a build calculator and thanked a guy for pointing me in the right direction. Here is a reference to the meme, just to show that it’s not some obscure thing. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fuck-x-all-my-homies-use-y?_gl=1*sd05oe*_ga*YW1wLVBhUGs3STl6eXYxUXNMa3VKRndNR3JDZ2sxcmVfYjRaaFFRUUpGQzVMOXZONnVlZUllT0FRWjAyQ1kwcm9jdUI. It’s a bummer that people can’t make a silly joke at the expense of the devs without the threat of ban. I just don’t see myself coming back to this game at this point.
Is there a way to leech health from ignite dmg?
i assume spell damage leeched as health doesnt count
As long as its not leeched as health on hit it should work
Anyone know if this mondays patch will include stuff like balancing/bug fixing or is it only the monolith changes?
We know its not purely monolith changes. Idk if they 100% confirmed bugfixing or balancing specifically, but pretty sure those are extremely likely
I don't think there's ever been a patch that didn't have at least some bug fixing and balance changes, so it's a pretty safe bet that this one will too 🙂
'at the expense of the devs' And yet still don't see the problem with your behaviour lmfao
Just gonna drop this here real sneaky like
you got 24 hours for saying something, that you admit was at the expense of the devs. Just accept that ehg dont want people saying stuff at their expense, and stop worrying about it
99% sure its more because saying that would totally derail the chat lol. Sure its a joke to you, but its basically prime bait to start a senseless argument in chat.
i highly doubt ehg banned someone for 24 hours for saying something that could derail chat
that would be an extremely terrible way to moderate a games chat
More than derail. Better word was start a flame war and drown out everyone else for the next 20 minutes
again, terrible way to moderate
Which is by definition trolling
Thanks for the answer!
you cant take something that subjective and go 'okay we can ban people for this type of thing'
it opens up way too much room for abuse
Just my interpretation. not gonna debate about it
the most likely thing is the dude said more, because in 99% of situations like this, the dude said more. and if not, whoever at ehg deemed what they said to be disrespectful enough to warrant a temporary ban
If ehg are banning people temporarily for stuff they deemed as trolling, a real heads up on that would be great
because I reckon a lot of people would look at that as a rule and go 'no thanks' and just leave
there are a lot of factors we could consider, but ultimately I think we should focus on leaving this channel open for questions 🙂
because that would just be a superbly bad way to do stuff
Can I level up items so I can continue using them?
The affixes yes but not the base
I don't know what affixes are and I assume the base is the lvl thing at the bottom right.
Ty tho 😁
@dense remnant @vapid aspen I assure you I 100% didn’t say more than that. My joke at the expense of the devs, as I said was literally me saying fuck them, I prefer GGG, in a chat that was already discussing the chat differences between EHG and GGG. Although I said it was at EHG’s expense, it was hardly an expense. I have never heard of a game banning someone because a player said “fuck the devs” in a joking manner (as I did) or seriously. When I got the ban email it didn’t say why. I’ve reached out inquiring about the ban, but haven’t heard back from them yet. God forbid players joke around in chat. Raein mentioned that it would be by definition trolling. Does EHG anywhere actively define trolling? And is one instance of it enough to warrant a ban? I find it to be entirely poor moderation on their part and their lack of follow up or explanation is pretty weak, too.
id be interested to see what their response to you is
I'm not going to argue with you about this. this is a questions channel not a debate your ban channel.
I’ll be sure to tag you guys or pm you about it if you’d want.
And my question, Raein, is why did I get banned? Do they define trolling? Did my message fit into that definition?
tbh i think this being a channel for asking the community, makes this a pretty fitting place to bring up questions about what is an acceptable level of moderation/punishment for that moderation
They do not discuss bans. There is no use to ask us community about it at all. Every single community person has no idea what is going on with your ban. I will tell you I love BM and I recommend it
I mean, the poe community wasnt exactly quiet when empy got a ban for the season
this stuff is important
and like this isnt an exploit
this is something, that as presented could be a pretty wierd road to go down
I don't have the answer to your questions, and I'm not particularly invested in your questions either. I'm just here to discuss the game, not meta stuff like this.
@quick thorn I actually need to play solo scorpion next
I tried it for a bit and the clear was what destroyed it for me. I think maybe with smarter AI and more movement speed it could work.
- Be respectful! Personal abuse, obscene, harassing, threatening, or defamatory remarks of any nature won't be tolerated. -> the first rule in the rules page, just gonna leave this here 🙂
Thanks @quick thorn pretty weird they don’t discuss bans. They should. If they don’t discuss it, like Aurora said, if they don’t it gives them free reign to do whatever they want, which isn’t okay.
They do discuss bans, if you contact their support, but were a couple days from one of their biggest patches ever
I have never seen a game that allows community to make up the rules for bans. We could talk till our voices go out and we would still have no say in what is/isnt bannable. That is only made at the company level. I understand you guys want to talk about it but there is nothing we can say/do to change anything about a ban process
To put it bluntly, they have bigger priorities than your ban
yeah games dont let communities make up the rules
Assuming the situation is exactly as you described it, I’ll add a few points:
- it’s hard to tell a joke from a serious comment on the internet
- sure it’s a meme you can Google. But I really don’t think it’s as famous or popular as you think in 2021
- can I confirm that’s a chat ban? Not a game login ban? If so, I again empathize with the devs. Less with u. This is a start up company in early access. They want to police their chat somewhat but don’t have the resources to necessarily dish out very nuanced restrictions. If it’s the latter (banning u from playing, I can see why u might think it’s extreme)
- similar to point 3, this is a game by a tiny studio in early access. They don’t have all the resources and time in the world to spend dealing with this particular issue. Esp if it’s just a chat ban.
but lets be real, if they legitamtely are going to go forward with 'we'll temporarily ban you from playing the game for one isntance of a bad joke or troll in our chat' then the games doomed
if this happened to the wrong person, or enough times, it'd just ruin the reputation
This is the first time ive ever heard about it happening, Im finding it pretty hard to believe you got banned just for being a shitter in chat 
No the game isn't doomed. I turned off global chat the day I started playing because the messages were distracting and consistently got me killed XD
imagine ziz was playing, said something that was taken the wrong way by a dev in chat, and got a day ban
Has he confirmed it’s a ban from playing the game? Not chat?
from what they've been saying its not a chat ban, its a game ban jerle
He hasnt said anything for a while
There is nothing "bad joke" about what that person said. That was straight disrespectful to me. That is completely out of line and there is no place in society to go around talking like that. I understand its easy to say profanity and throw it at a entity or person over the internet but I am glad that they are trying to get that out of this game.
Do we know exactly what was said?
i mean, different cultures have different things they take as okay
if you've ever raided with australians, eep
lmao
I’m not sure I saw anything that explicitly clarified that it’s a game ban.
"F*** EHG, all my homies like GGG." according to the original author
Yeah but theres a difference between it being targeted and it being something said in jest
Thats pretty cringe lol
and he said this in the in game chat?
According to them yes
Then like whats to discuss lmao? Thats spam/trolling take the L dude
I'm all for bans for excess of cringe. I'm also in full support of bans for puns that are dangerously bad.
You get a chat ban in PoE for posting a toucan 
Bad puns are the worst. But i still love them 🙂
from the other angle on this being potentially bad (if it is a game ban) is that banning for something subjective like that is like, realllllly bad for avoiding problematic behaviour from devs etc... in regards to discrimination
I definitely think there’s more latitude for a chat ban in an early access startup studio. And it’s not certainly out of line for me. A game ban would be more concerning for me.
When rules are subjective, it tends to not be the majority that get effected by them
Yeah a game ban is abit much
But also like I dunno, how hard is it to not be a shitter lol
thats where im coming at this from, if its a chat ban who gives a shit
if its a game ban, thats something that i really hope doesnt continue
I have 0 idea of what the original author has done/said outside of that or what not so I dont know if its warranted or not and EHG will never tell us so Im just going to shrug.
But we know nothing about the context this was said in, and honestly, who even cares. It was a 24 hour ban. by my math, the ban already ended.
Deserved, change my mind 
jay careful what you ask for your going to get a true random discussion all over again
If you wouldnt say it IRL, face to face to whoever its about, dont say it on the internet 
hmm, i mean people say stuff face to face id rather not see as well
Yeah but its a lot more likely that your actions will have consequences irl
Yes really, like thats not even an argument lmao
You heard him. No consequences on the internet. Free to be a dick!
New rule 1: No more talking. If you talk, in any situation, about anything, you are bad. Talking about fluffy rodents in an ice cream parlor? Bad.
lmao
I agree with not casually siding with either side as we don’t have the full story. But I think still useful to consider the situation assuming what OP said was the full situation. The company’s policy matters. Assuming it’s exactly as he put it, I don’t want to be banned from the game (not chat) just because I let slip something.
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Even if I was female, it would be difficult to be several of them
my point is that what people say face to face isnt a measurement of acceptability
because guys can be massive jerks
irl as well
lol
You cant just go around freely being an ass irl, I mean you can, but generally eventually you suffer consequences
Yeah of course
But really? why bring gender into it, girls can be jerks too
Like thats a whole other step
Weird that you're making it sound like just guys do that
lol, well before this gets to 'not all guys' imma quickly leave
(not just legal/physical consequences, finding yourself with no friends and depressed is a consequence of being a jerk too)
