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olive wave
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thanks

olive wave
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wow, so dodge is kinda strong once you have enough hp/ward and ward regen to tank the occasional balls/ dots

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any place in my build i could slot another 'less damage taken' modifier or some consistent ward generation?

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i am ssf

fallen parcel
olive wave
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its mostly what's stopping me from downing uber aberroth, ward generation not consistent enough

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800

fallen parcel
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Also getting those 0 lp uniques to have actual lp with slams would be huge

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Yeah you need better gear and more hp slams too high corr for 1.5 k health

olive wave
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most of my ward generation is from my boots when i stop moving xD

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on bosses tho its inbetween 1.5 to 2.0 k

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2.5 k is during maps with the on hit ward effect from idols

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hmm

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aside

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from vitality intelligence or dex

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nothing of real value on helmet that i could slam

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maybe level of enchant weapon

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if it drops i'll slam it

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but aside from that not much else

icy drift
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You're playing shatter strike no?

fallen parcel
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Yeah but that is not enough,you are limited with spellblade vs a caster build ,if you have the damage just get more hp,idk maybe get some armor also your exalt ring could be better like 1 with 1t7 and full t5 would be better

icy drift
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you want dex on like everything

olive wave
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flame reave

icy drift
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ah

fallen parcel
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I would use titan hearth over static shell

olive wave
fallen parcel
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But try getting a 2 lp or 1 lp with corruption at least

olive wave
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and it does halve every other type of damage

icy drift
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titan heart is just more defense than static shell if you're using a 2h

fallen parcel
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Its not about shock is that it gives dr plus t7 health affix for free

icy drift
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also flame reave is only 50% converted so the more lightning damage isn't that crazy

fallen parcel
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Full fire would be more damage

olive wave
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dr

fallen parcel
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Hitting a t7 health increase on titan its like you almost at the 100% increase value by using that

olive wave
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isn't so much an issue

icy drift
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what is an issue then x)

fallen parcel
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800 corr with 1.5 k health is too low for me

olive wave
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ward generation

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here

icy drift
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Ah so we don't need defense

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we need defense

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for ward you want the ward on melee hit idols they're lit

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people will gaslight you into taking damage idols don't listen to them

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the ward idols are nasty

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for fast hitting spellblade builds they're legit one of the biggest sources of ward available

olive wave
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i get 40% increased health and a 0.85 coef dr from titan heart
but from static shell i get to something like 90% of armor cap, 80ish % physical dr and 49% dr on all other types

candid elm
olive wave
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that's a 0.51 coef on all damage hits

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ye

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vitality, int, dex

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seems like the best options

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Also

icy drift
olive wave
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even tho it does split my damage and complicates things

icy drift
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generic defense that's always there is always going to be better

olive wave
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with 1 t 7 dexterity mod, i think i'll also be able to free up 1 crit point on the more crit vs ignited, so i can take the last aoe node
when i get enough attack speed from gloves and primordial helmet, i'll have whole screen coverage with the giant flame reave every half second

olive wave
# olive wave even tho it does split my damage and complicates things

i might just unspec those 2 points tho, for now i have my permanent shock chance from one of my idols, but once i get the bis idols for potion spam, i'll need some % cooldown recovery on belt probably for 100 uptime on enchant weapon to get chance to shock without the fire/lightning flame reave,
once that's done, that's 2 points freed i can put towards the 12% aoe node left of the tree

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reason i have the lightning blast proc on flame reave tree for now is for the 25% less damage taken from lightning aegis on lightning blast cast
but that won't be necessary at all to keep 100% uptime once i get the potion setup on jungle queen i'll be able to spam surge for 4 lightning blast cast each time

olive wave
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can you get 2 experimental affixes through this?

desert tree
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No

faint cape
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You can't ever get experimental affixes with glyph of chaos (but can't get 2 experimentals through any means anyway)

sleek hare
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so Havoc runes dont show up in prophecies? or just super rare?

fallen parcel
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You need to stack a lot and pop the prophecies cause if you get like 3 at a time you may be disappointed

sleek hare
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if i put two Rune lenses into the telescope, does that stack?

fallen parcel
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The 2 multiplicative ones that add cost to prophecy dont ,rest yes

sleek hare
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tyty

faint cape
slim berry
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is Torment Warlock Still the same? I dropped the game for a long time lol

slim berry
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Feel like it is better to start with Necro first ...Can I change later?

toxic echo
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kinda hard to do first time thru campaign

slim berry
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I will just play Necro then

sly fable
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So we know what the weighting is for different runes in those prophecies?

faint cape
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For the prophecies themselves or for the "runes" prophecy? For random runes proph, presumably it just goes off their reroll chances same way it does uniques, etc.

sly fable
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Found it

faint cape
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Yeah, LE Tools has them and probably TunkLab also

sly fable
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but I find it pretty difficult to search for them

faint cape
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Yeah, it's not super intuitive, and I am not aware of anywhere that has calculated out the actual drop rates

sly fable
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oh that's alright, I can do that

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I just mean if I want to find "rune of havoc" on letools, I find it difficult to search for

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Like...there's nothing for crafting materials on the left bar

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anyway, I've got it sorted

faint cape
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Oh, there is a page for just runes

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It's down in the "other" category along with the weird items like blessings

sly fable
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lol, didn't realize I could scroll down

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FWIW, I've calculated the expected value of Havoc Runes from the 88 generic rune prophecy to be 1.07

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which like...god that's so bad

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It also is lower than expected, under what I've experienced

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makes me doubt some aspect of the calculation

sly fable
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Oh, I forgot to double it for rank 12 CoF bonus

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So 2.14. That matches my experience more or less

somber sundial
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Question rq - if an item is corrupted I can still feed it into a Unique right?

ruby marten
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no

somber sundial
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Unfort but ty for the info

maiden yarrow
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If I remember correctly our materials from season don't get transferred to non-seasonal (runes of havoc, key items from the ressource tab, woven echoes, etc.) right?

hollow forum
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I didn't know mirrored items was a thing o_O

maiden yarrow
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somehow I remembered my season 3 materials not being transfered

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you can only get that in this specific woven echo

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otherwise you can only use rune of creation on exalted items to make them look mirrored

desert tree
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Lightless harbor too

desert tree
maiden yarrow
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god damn I didn't know that

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this button?

desert tree
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Yup

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😁

maiden yarrow
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expected more havocs, but I must have used them all 😄

hollow forum
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how you guys think I should farm idol altars and omen idols?

icy drift
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Its by far the best for altars

hollow forum
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alright ty man, was doing omen's veils but after spending quite a lot of time I'm still not able to drop a decent one
gonna try pinacles then

candid elm
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If I remember correctly, people saw the legit dupes on Merchant's Guild Bazaar and were confused. So they added the mirrored sprites to help

hollow forum
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I see, this is like shiny pokemons !!!
they're so cool

storm blaze
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Yeah, people were saying that someone's using dupe glitch

hollow forum
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I really need to dig more into it, I guess only random drops can be mirored

candid elm
storm blaze
hollow forum
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what happens if you put mirrored items in weaver tree slots, do you get mirrored copies?

candid elm
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Example Lightless Arbor vault door mod: "Duplicates all unique items from every Chest This is additive with other item duplication effects"

candid elm
hollow forum
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only one way to find out

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.... ^^'

candid elm
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Have fun testing : )

hollow forum
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it does imprint mirrored !
crossing fingers

candid elm
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Yeah I just expect the drop to be regular

hollow forum
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MUAHAHAHAH

hollow forum
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shiny items duplication
new meta guys

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you guys don't have mirored items??? 😎 meh .....

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x,))

storm blaze
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Imagine if mirrored uniques only approved mirrored exalted items 🤔

hollow forum
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ahahahahah

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thanks to the devs for adding that, I will be hunting them from now on, I think only random drop can be shiny like this
would have been very cool to build only with shinies.... : D

candid elm
hollow forum
# candid elm Neat!

Yeah, thats so cool, I will be making a reroll just to build only with shinies ! : D

candid elm
hollow forum
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yeaaaaaah, gauntlet of strife then

vapid aspen
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Hunt for mirrored red ring begins

hollow forum
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dude !

hollow forum
dire knot
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My altar can not be filter search with 2t7 option

icy drift
dire knot
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You can not find any 2t7 tho i just think it might not added to altar search yet ?

icy drift
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Hmm it's possible I guess but that would be weird

dire knot
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Maybe it not intended to get 2 t7 on altars 🫣

rotund river
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How do Item drops work? Assuming a specific unique drops, what was the way to get there?
My assumption is that the rolls go

  1. roll for Base Type
  2. roll for rarity (succeed the unique roll, fail the set roll afterwards)
  3. roll for the unique
  4. roll for LP/WW and roll for modvalues

Is that correct?

olive wave
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is there a regex guide somewhere for LE regex? for looking through tabs of rings for specific mods

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or is regex standardized

icy drift
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So if I want a boot with fire res I'd type "boot&/fire res/" or something

olive wave
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"T7&intelligence" for rings with intelligence and a t7 mod

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anyway to only show t7 int,

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?

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any way*

icy drift
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There is a way through regex alone but let me see if there's a macro maybe

olive wave
olive wave
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dayum

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my luck good today

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could that be because i sunbathed

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xD

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dayum 66 forging potential is a lot no?

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might be able to get 2T7 i like onto those, vitality is already ok with me

icy drift
olive wave
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oh right

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for

icy drift
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it matches anything with 14-16 intelligence and is a ring

olive wave
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14-16

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ye

icy drift
# olive wave ye

Make sure you give each digit its own range otherwise it won't work, in this case the tens place is always 1 so I didn't need to do a range at all, but if it for example wanted T7 cold res on a ring I'd have to do:

/[6-7][1-5]% Cold Resistance/&ring

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[6-7][1-5] would match from 61-75, you can't do [61-75]

candid elm
# olive wave 14-16

If you want more info, these three patch note pages talk about the various stash macros and regex

icy drift
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I might compile them and pin it in here lol

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In a game rn though so I'll do it after

candid elm
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There's also a support page for it

icy drift
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yea I usually just go to the support page

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idk if it has the complete list though, regardless I'll type up a message so we can link to it more easily and can put some additional tips and tricks for general regex in

candid elm
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It's missing a few things, but it has most of it

icy drift
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yea that's the one I usually go to

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didnt know the guide had an entry ngl omegalul

candid elm
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It's missing the season 4 additions and some of the crafting altar macros. But it's got most of the stuff

sleek hare
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for stash configuration, is there any way to only get T7 items autosorted? or is there currently not a way to separate T6s from T7s?

olive wave
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also

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when can we expect a ctrl+shift+left click to disregard auto stashing?

olive wave
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😭

half mauve
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Ps5 release when? Been waiting forever

chrome hatch
olive wave
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tho

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its a bit of an unfinished feature

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to have a stash reserved for certain types of items you to do it in a roundabout way locking out everything else

candid elm
olive wave
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i have a couple additions which would signifficantly increase qol regarding stash in my head, i need to compile that at some point

candid elm
olive wave
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ctrl f'd for 'stash' i didn't find anything

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where is it supposed to be?

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lul my bad xD

olive wave
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when i do 2 affix rules side to side its a logical 'or'? it seems so from my testign

hollow violet
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I just got to the point in the campaign where I go to bless Heorot's lance. I'm level 45, is it worth it to finish the campaign or should I just head to Monoliths and start trying to put my end game build together?

olive wave
icy drift
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yep it's and

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I just tested it

olive wave
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ye nvm

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summer heat got to me

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my brain is frying

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thanks x)

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there are exceptions tho

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i want items to show with a select few mods (or empty affix spot) + a t6 + a t7

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with that

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and that setup to filter for that

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below

olive wave
# olive wave

for some reason the total of affixes overrides individual level of affix restriction on this one

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so if you have too high a total of affix tiers, even if you don't have a t6 to complement the t7, rule will still show it

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FK ME

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nvm

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it was another rule that was showing it

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resolved

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😭

icy drift
icy drift
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on the first affix condition your advanced options do literally nothing and on the second one it won't hit items you'd want it to

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yeah this doesn't do that

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well it kinda does but it's still super weird how you've made it x)

olive wave
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and

icy drift
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having individual affix tier set to 1 or higher does literally nothing

olive wave
olive wave
icy drift
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I'll log in and check your rule is so weird that it's confusing me lul

olive wave
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haha

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im just usin high school logic

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ah

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french

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cuz

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i am baguette

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well

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nvm

icy drift
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why not do it like this

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same affixes in both

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so one will have to be T6 and the other T7

olive wave
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its the same

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effectively the same

icy drift
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no

olive wave
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because i don't care what affix is t6 or t7

icy drift
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yes this does that

olive wave
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ye

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if i did i would indeed do it like that

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yeye

icy drift
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and the logic is like 10x more intuitive, at least for me

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Like I kinda get what you're trying to do but you're overcomplicating it for no real reason lol

olive wave
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but for my use case its ok, the prefixes im lookin for are either gonna be t6-7 or i havoc slam

olive wave
icy drift
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I mean yours should have worked I don't get what the issue even is

olive wave
icy drift
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x)

olive wave
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i had a secondary rule for sub-par rings below my rule havocable rings that i had forgotten about

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and another rule to account for those exalted rings with empty prefix slots

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can exalted items (rares in essence) have only 2 mods?

blazing glacier
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I think you want similar so your original rule, 13 tiers of any affix at least t6 meaning 77 76 666 etc would show. Then can copy rule and do one with a condition having specific affix, another with open prefix, etc.

blazing glacier
olive wave
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ok cool

blazing glacier
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No other affix

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Rare though.

olive wave
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did 3 variations total

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to account for every possible crafting scenario

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also lowered the tier of the secondary best to t5 from t6 will see how it feels

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i might bring it back to t6

rocky rapids
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1 affix usually ends up being surprisingly useless by account of how easy it is to just brick fp before you get what you want

olive wave
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but t7+t6 is decently rare already

blazing glacier
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Annoying part with 76 is that they both move when usually you want 1 affix as the 7

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Can't seal 6, also hit by redemption, etc. 76 crafting is annoying. But at least they are plentiful vs 77

olive wave
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is that additive with existing endurance dr? or another coef

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(immortal vise gloves)

icy drift
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Seperate

olive wave
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mine ended up showing things wrong again i worked my way through it and ended up right there xD

icy drift
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checks out x)

olive wave
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except

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you have to have the first affix condition have the total account for secondary + the t7

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otherwise

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they can overlap

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and show single t7s

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but ye

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pretty much

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x)

icy drift
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yes but you don't need the total affix tiers stuff

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just do t6+ on the first one

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matching 2 affixes

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and t7 on the second one

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matching 1 affix

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no need to touch the total affix tiers

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right now the first rule will show wrong stuff

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change it from 5 to 6 and just get rid of the total affix tiers option

olive wave
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i have the same affixes selected in both affix conditions

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that's why i use total

icy drift
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don't

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get rid of it

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trust me

olive wave
icy drift
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no it wouldn't

olive wave
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i'll test it out

icy drift
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change it to this

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same affixes in both

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I forgot to change the first rule to 2 affixes before, this does exactly what you want

olive wave
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ye nvm i was wrong my brain got numb when i looked at

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and realised it did indeed work without total

icy drift
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as a rule of thumb for the future, if you start touching the total affix tiers setting you're likely overcomplicating it or doing something wrong

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you pretty much never need it

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only use it if you're absolutely sure it's the only way to get the outcome you want, which is pretty much never. Because it's super easy to missuse it otherwise

olive wave
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wth is this

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that

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is

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vile

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is it intentional that all dot effects are this strong compared to hit damage x)

icy drift
olive wave
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-_-

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tuuuune it dooooown

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xD

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or have area pene not work for dot or something

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or work half as much

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wathever

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something

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xD

faint cape
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They did make the more damage from corruption work half as much for DOT, and also nerfed most things that apply DOT

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it's still very frequently an issue lol

olive wave
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-_-

toxic echo
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i mean...what are you standing in the middle of a giant bug swarm for? that killing blow was only 300...you were standing in it for a good bit

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unless you got greedy and were looting in the middle of a fight

fallen parcel
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Dots are way to overtuned still in LE

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Even after all this changes its still a solid problem at least the strongest enemy in the game the sludge dont one shot anymore fas stronger than shade and uber that mob was

toxic echo
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the sludge was so stupid

inner silo
inner silo
olive wave
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only thing i know is this was the first time i saw that spell effect, it took what looked like twice the size of my screen xddddd
tried to run away, only realized it look like a 'eye of the storm' situation once i died
this, is not noob friendly xDddd

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it does look cool af

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would love to play some sort of dot applying eye of the storm righteous fire kinda build
like, you have to keep your distance against tough monsters to apply your dot
that'd be a cool build

toxic echo
fallen parcel
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Having armor % applies to dots its a stat that is good and kinda mandatory in the endgame , cleanse also fixes stuff like poison

olive wave
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in screenshot it says killing blow 300 something

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i can assure you

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my whole ward + hp disappeared in half a second

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3.5 k or so gone instantly

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anyway

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im at 900 corr

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so

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its kinda expected

fallen parcel
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Yeah but is it a stacking dot ?

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Stacking dots dont do this

olive wave
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but it is annoying how little dot dr there is

fallen parcel
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But stuff like the fire lizard can

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Still that looks more like a hit than an actual dot

olive wave
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there wasnt any other mob around, i didnt get hit

toxic echo
olive wave
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i just walked into chernobyl

fallen parcel
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There is a stat that gives dot dr based on a certain amount armor you have try to get some gloves with this slammed

toxic echo
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Esp by a factor of 10

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Like there is some variance with ailments and their ticks

fallen parcel
toxic echo
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But skills really dont

fallen parcel
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Another reason why titan hearth is great 👍

olive wave
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is my guess

olive wave
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if i took titan heart

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id get my cheeks clapped at every turn

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xDddd

fallen parcel
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Thats what you think xd

olive wave
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really not an option

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the comparative dr on hits

fallen parcel
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15% dr and t7 health goes very well rather

olive wave
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is so far apart, its not worth it for 15% global dr and 40% of life im not investing in raw added health

olive wave
fallen parcel
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Armor does nothing vs dots BTW but all dr and endurance work on everything

olive wave
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i also need +4 to flame reave in addition to t7 health not an easy find

olive wave
chrome hatch
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the keys for dungeons have an equal droprate right?

olive wave
olive wave
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is all ill say

chrome hatch
toxic echo
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Rng does rng things

olive wave
toxic echo
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Afaik there is no weighting on dungeon keys

olive wave
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👆

chrome hatch
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alright, just wanted to know

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hopefully i get 5 of them by the time i hit 100...

olive wave
chrome hatch
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couldnt figure out for the life of me how to push it

olive wave
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i get like 2 of each every echo or so at 900 corr

chrome hatch
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damn

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im planning to push to 400 corruption by tomorrow, but my build still have flaws in it

olive wave
chrome hatch
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mostly been getting lightless arbor keys the most

olive wave
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tho, you can get him pretty early on too

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but ye just farm stability

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also if you re taking 15 min for a map, unless you have no movement speed, get better filter

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too much clutter will slow you down

chrome hatch
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i take 3 mins at most

olive wave
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but ye

chrome hatch
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depending if im maxing out the stability or going through the nodes as fast as possible

olive wave
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thats in the works, immortal vise and the relic from threshold

fallen parcel
tawdry dove
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Where can I find my damned chance...?

And are global chances (such as ignite and damned) the same as "ignite chance with fire skills"?

tired crest
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hey pros, how do you make a filter rule to show items with 1 empty prefix slot? like -7xx

hollow forum
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I think like this should work

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you set max prefix to 1

tired crest
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thank you 🫡

lethal snow
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HI, it seems that my stash is missing 1 item. There is no way i have dropped it or sold it. putting it into stash was my first thing i did when i got it. how can i know for sure what happend to it?

toxic echo
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You cant

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Once you leave an area that area is deleted and everything in it

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Devs dont track individual items

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So unless its in the forge or eternity cache or something of the like, its gone

faint cape
icy drift
faint cape
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That one I don't remember if it's added or not (but either way, a lot of damned/ignite chance might be for the right tagged skills, and that definitely doesn't show)

candid elm
olive wave
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holy shit how much ward retention does uber abberoth have

desert tree
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Boss ward doesn't work the same

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It decays over time at an increasing rate

olive wave
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ohh

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so i can wait it out

desert tree
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But you loose dps anyway

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You'll do more dmg by doing more dmg and not waiting for the ward to decay

olive wave
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im just trying to stay alive xD

faint cape
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It will take quite a while to wait it out

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More damage you do, shorter the fight, less opportunity to get 1 shot or get bad overlapping mechanics

olive wave
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does rarity influence prophecy drops?

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corruption

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or is it single impact through how much favor you can farm

fallen parcel
faint cape
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Just more favor and corruption's minor effect on LP chance

olive wave
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because from previous discussions with community mods, rarity just transforms rares and such into uniques is what i got from that, not sure how that'd translate to higher rarity uniques in prophecies

faint cape
sly fable
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And rarity also has no impact on WHICH unique drops anyway, right?

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inside of a rarity (like unique) all that matters is reroll chance, and that's unaffected by corruption

olive wave
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what does reroll chance mean?

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like it has to roll on it twice ? 0.02*0.02 kinda deal to random drop it?

icy drift
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When a unique wants to drop in LE it just picks a random unique from the pool of eligible items and then with the reroll chance it'll either reroll to a different unique or stay on the unique it's rolling and drop it

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so for red ring. Whenever a unique wants to drop, and it happens to land on red ring, it will with a 98% chance say nah and roll for a unique again. which can land on red ring again

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and with a 2% chance it will actually drop a red ring when it lands on it

jaunty garden
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LETools has Increased Crit Chance as an available affix on Huge (1x4) and Large Omen (1x3) idols, but I don't see that affix available to select in my loot filter. Is LETools wrong or is it just missing from the filter?

icy drift
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make sure you're looking at both generic and class specific affixes

candid elm
# jaunty garden LETools has Increased Crit Chance as an available affix on Huge (1x4) and Large ...

Hmm, I see what you mean. Setting a filter Affix: Assassin's with Item Type: Huge Idol 1x4 size, it works. Picture 1.

But setting Affix: Assassin's with Item Type: Large Idol 1x3 size - for an Omen Idol, it then clears the affix after you pick Large Idol or doesn't list Assassin's if you pick Large Idol first. Picture 2.

I'll post on Dammit's Discord, the person that runs LE Tools, and ask about it.

primal wave
candid elm
icy drift
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ah yeah that's a bit of an edge case I guess since omen idols are large but don't share their affix pool with other large idols

primal wave
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and do not select large idol, since it cannot have that affix, the LE filter needs an update

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something like that, I couldn;t match idol type with affix

candid elm
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I have filter lines using Large and Grand for Omen Idols and it does work with some other affixes. But yeah, just trying to narrow down if it's a game issue or LE Tools issue.

icy drift
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You could do an idol type rule that hits all idols and then just put a hide rule for huge and stout idols right above it

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and then have your show huge and show stout idol rules above that

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Bit convoluted but I think it would be a workaround for now

candid elm
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If I get a response, I'll let y'all know. If it's an issue with the in game filter, I'll put in a bug report for it later.

olive wave
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i've been farming at 950 corr for a while now

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haven't seen one

icy drift
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the reroll chance is the weighting

olive wave
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been spamming rings prophecies too

icy drift
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red ring is around one in 700 unique rings

olive wave
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?

icy drift
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kinda

olive wave
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hmmm

icy drift
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the math isn't that simple

olive wave
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feels like i should have seen one by now

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rngesus

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ahhh

icy drift
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it's one in around 700 unique rings like I mentioned

olive wave
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yeye

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i know

icy drift
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So you could have surpassed 2000 unique rings without one and it wouldn't be anything weird, just unlucky

olive wave
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with 700 attempts you only have like a 66 % chance of actually dropping it

icy drift
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gotta start praying to rngesus fr

olive wave
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you have to double it to get to 90%

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guarantee-ish

icy drift
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yep

olive wave
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hmm

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you have one on hand?

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could you test with my loot filter if it shows

icy drift
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I can in a bit

olive wave
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no problem, thanks

jaunty garden
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Ahhh I think that's what I missed, I was looking at rogue specific idol affixes. But yeah sounds like from Sweetgoat there may be something funky with the omen idol version.

olive wave
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@icy drift ye my filter might be broken or something

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for some reason this wasn't showing

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even tho its checked in my rare-extremely rare uniques

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oh my god

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i forgot

icy drift
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lol

olive wave
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the weaver's will thing

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fks with everything

icy drift
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well yeah no shit x)

olive wave
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it doesn't show non weaver items who don't have weaver's will

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i forgot

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i noticed that

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but forgot to change it

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welp

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i just checked one stack of rings

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almost guaranteed i let one slip..

icy drift
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rip

olive wave
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next stack

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-_-

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ye

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i definitely missed an atlaria or two

icy drift
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That's why I always make my filter defensively, I don't hide stuff until I'm 100% sure my recolour/show rules show it

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as in I'll just keep a show all uniques rule at the very top

olive wave
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ngl, there's too much stuff to not hide everything

icy drift
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you can just turn it on and off

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Obviously once I'm sure it's showing stuff properly I hide everything

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but you weren't and still hid everything x)

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Don't trust it or yourself until you test it is basically what I'm getting at

olive wave
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well

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i noticed the weaver's will condition fkin with non weaver at some point

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i think

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i got distracted by something else when i did

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and forgot to make the change

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😂

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🫡

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@icy drift

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fkin instantly

icy drift
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nice lol

olive wave
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just the 1 prophecy

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xDDDD

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bruh

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i must have missed

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10 at least

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xDDd

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(im ded inside)

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nemesis it ?

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then imprint

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is the way?

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confirming

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cuz at this point

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im not trusting myself on wether water is something i should drink

icy drift
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yep

olive wave
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im seeing so many uniques i used to see but didn't anymore for some reason now 👀

olive wave
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is this affected by cooldown recovery rate? 👀

toxic echo
ivory owl
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@rugged veldt @quick thorn good suggestion guys 🙂

ashen anvil
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I'll be the first to ask the community: everybody staying hydrated?

frosty prism
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On my 3rd large coffee of the day so making sure to get in my fluids.

opal mesa
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On my first sip of water

pseudo cipher
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does beer count?

opal mesa
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Definitely not

quick thorn
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I highly recommend beer in this game. It is 50 + 4 x your character level which helps out a lot when you play HC Maso Mcfluffin!

pseudo cipher
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In that case I'm good to go!

noble rose
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So if I wanna live I should drink beer? sounds reasonable

marsh maple
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Pawg

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Any build stuff ping me bois I have too much time spent ingame

ashen anvil
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does anyone have any idea of the best way to get smoke weavers? I need two for my BD but I have no idea of any semi efficient way to get it

pseudo cipher
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Best option currently is to push the level 55 Mono as far as you can go. This keeps any uniques above 55 out of the drop pool.

ashen anvil
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that's... a really good idea

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way better than me just spending all my gold at the gambler lol

pseudo cipher
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Yeah since it's a level 1 base but can't be gambled until 55, the smart loot system makes that base really unlikely to show up, so it's a massive gold sink to try and gamble it

hidden tusk
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Does anyone know what the green text on some items means vs. not being on others?

pseudo cipher
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Have you looked at a set item recently? There's a bug that can randomly make text green, orange, or purple if you've looked at a corresponding item

hidden tusk
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Ah yes that seems to be it. Thanks for the advice fam 🙏

ashen anvil
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is there anything fun I can do with two eye's of reen? it seems like a pretty solid sword

balmy current
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any DW melee ignite build

ashen anvil
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no specific builds really enabled by it or anything?

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now I just need to figure out what to play then

balmy current
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Not really, it just gives a fuckton of melee ignite

ashen anvil
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Any particular recommendations for dw ignite builds? Warpath maybe?

quick thorn
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I have a DW rive Ignite build that actually does pretty well. I just do the pull in and it does pretty well.

frosty prism
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the reens don't double proc for reference

quick thorn
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Correct. My offhand is a Attack speed, Ignite, Life on hit (I really like how much healing it gives me but this could be Chill or something else if you need it) 2 eyes of reen are about 100% more ignite over a rare but I feel like Attack speed and either Fire/More melee damage better for my offhand

lyric plaza
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Ask me anything primalist.

balmy current
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Why does the Primalist look so much like Mike?

balmy current
# frosty prism the reens don't double proc for reference

But they do provide the highest amount of melee ignite chance it's possible to get on a weapon on the fastest melee base. It would be interesting to know what the breakpoint would be where the additional melee attack speed of a crafted offhand would give you more ignites per second compared to a second Eye of Reen.

noble rose
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Bit of a question regarding Bone curse, if a minion hits a target I have put bone curse on and triggers the 15% health execute from the bone curse tree, does that count as me killing them?

cloud kindle
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If the kill is made by Bone Curse, yes. If it's made by the minion's hit, no

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AFAIK

noble rose
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Yeah, that's kinda how I see it as well

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so if something gets taken to 15% health when a minion hits it it'll get killed by the bone curse 15% life execution and thus count as me killing it

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Reason I'm wondering is I'm theorycrafting a necromancer for the chonker patch next week, and think having the bone curse with execute together with a chance to get bone armour when I kill things would be a neat combo

sharp ibex
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@noble rose yes it works in that manner. I utilize it in most of my necro builds. Cursed Limbs to spread the bone curse and allow my minions to negate a portion of the enemy’s health.

noble rose
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Ah, dope

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Pretty cool way to be able to get on kill effects on minion builds

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My plan for it is going up to entreat the damned and down to bone feas and sigil of mortality

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also picking up 5/5 points in defile defenses, going as much armour shred as I can with this build

runic terrace
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WHY CANT I FIX SCREEN RES

urban horizon
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Is the settings tab completely messed up? Nothing showing up etc?

runic terrace
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YES

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JUST SAY OPTION 1 2 3 ECT

urban horizon
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Delete your le_graphicsmanager

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You can find it in C:\Users\your user\AppData\LocalLow\Eleventh Hour Games\Last Epoch

runic terrace
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were is hat located

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ok thanks boss

urban horizon
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Once you launch the game again it will create the file again but this time it shouldn't be corrupted

runic terrace
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trying now

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its really small now

urban horizon
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Probably defaulted to some super small resolution. Just change it ingame

runic terrace
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its not scalling right half the screen gone lol

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ive tried playing for weeks lol

urban horizon
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What resolution is your monitor?

runic terrace
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1920 x 1080 boss

urban horizon
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If you open the new file does it say 1920 x 1080 at the bottom? Next to the resolution

runic terrace
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yes

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reset pc it works now

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you amazing

urban horizon
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Alright! Have fun with the game 🙂

ashen anvil
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if I'm making a poison build, do I double dip for some bleed or do I stick with poison?

balmy current
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get some bleed & convert it to poison

ashen anvil
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what's the best way to do that?

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I'm currently planning on using acidfletch hail of arrows

balmy current
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some Rogue skills have a bleed -> poison conversion node.

ashen anvil
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gotcha

balmy current
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The Acid Rain node would do what you want

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but you might get that by default using the Acid Fletch bow

ashen anvil
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oh lol I already had that node planned, guess I can't read

balmy current
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No, it wouldn't

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so yeah, take the node

ashen anvil
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for the same build, poison tipped on the rogue tree or barbed arrows on marksman?

balmy current
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Both, though the only thing you're getting from Barbed Arrows is bleed chance which is converted to poison.

ashen anvil
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so poison tipped would be higher priority, thanks

balmy current
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definitely, since barbed arrows is only 5% compared to 10% for the other one

ashen anvil
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I thought I'd at least get something out of phys, but I suppose not with 100% of the damage converted to poison

ashen anvil
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Does the ethereal arrows marksman node buff my poison damage with poison hail of arrows?

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I'm having trouble figuring out how to scale my damage

clear mural
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is there any disadvantage to skiping timeline levels?

prisma pumice
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Some basic loot filter questions (playing ranged ice minions): I am using a variant of HLCs loot filter and its showing me any acolyte mods on gear, any acolyte related idols ect. as well as tons of trash magic weapons. I feel like most of these I find are useless but want to know if these things are safe to hide? Or is there a better way to find a very strict "everything you see you pick up" filter. Also is there any way to highlight shards or other important items with beams/ground markers/highlights like uniques have?

lyric plaza
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@balmy current that's because primalists are clean on the inside.

vapid aspen
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Hard to tell why some things are being shown but if you give some examples we could take a guess.

urban horizon
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Rest are drop rate related

cloud kindle
balmy current
balmy current
cloud kindle
balmy current
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If you're unable to do the empowered monoliths for whatever reason then rushing them isn't for you, & I'd count skipping the left-hand monoliths in that.

cloud kindle
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Agreed

desert yarrow
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Hi folks. Is there a source of crit vuln for mobs or am I free to take all crit mods as soon as I gathered crit avoidance?

olive tinsel
# prisma pumice Some basic loot filter questions (playing ranged ice minions): I am using a vari...

If you are referring to my HCL,.... My filter does not filter any weapon types besides very low lvl base types.

Since my filter is not build specific.it's impossible to reliably filter thing without being build specific.

Also keep in mind "Magic Items" are not necessarily trash in LE.
They are usually the best crafting bases, since finding a magic item with 2 desired affixes is way more likely than finding a rare with 3-4 desired affixes.

All I can suggest you is adding some more specific hide rules for weapon types you don't even consider using, regardless of their affixes

random dock
# prisma pumice Some basic loot filter questions (playing ranged ice minions): I am using a vari...

the loot beams/icons/sounds are coming later since its a heavily requested one

I would personally recommend using the build planner and planning out the build then use the ingame loot filter for the affixes/bases

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

the loot filter changes coming next patch are fucking amazing (especially for idols)

the loot filter in general is VERY easy to learn (its not like POE's where you have to know how to code)

prisma pumice
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I guess my questions should probably be for the creator of the filter and not the base filter

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I am just used to a filter that ONLY shows me stuff I want to pick up, and by default I was seeing a lot of garbage magic items that aren't even worth reading

dark fox
prisma pumice
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I mainly ask about the beams and highlighting as I have terrible eyesight and seeing shards on the ground is way harder than something like brightly highlighted chaos orbs in poe

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I'm extremely new so I dont actually know the bases I want and hoped a filter would help with that

plush gust
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is the smite animation bug known yet?

prisma pumice
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By default it was showing at or below ilevel bases for like every weapon with any affix and I really don't think I should be picking up every weapon unless there is some reason I dont know about

random dock
prisma pumice
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Thats what I was trying to do yeah

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Guess I need to do more research into what my build needs

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I'm just getting a headache over all this and want to play the game lol

random dock
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haha I get it

it can get intimidating but once you learn the filter it will be worth the struggle 😅

prisma pumice
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I'm just going to default to hiding more than I need rather than showing more

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I can always just craft my own stuff off vendor bases

desert yarrow
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however in my experience mobs with high crit chance can get in crits with the monolith's crit modifier
So is it like crit chance higher than 100 going through crit avoidance?

random dock
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for example at the end chest

this is what I see with the filter I setup for my build

Im seeing the armour cause I have a rule for class specific affixes for all classes (shattering ofc)

vapid aspen
prisma pumice
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What does ilevel even affect, is it shown? None of the items I had showed it and it seemed like the implicit rolls were the same an an endgame version of say a turquoise amulet

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I'm playing minions so I dont care about weapon pdps at all so my understanding is I dont need to show weapons at all if they don't have affixes I want

vapid aspen
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There is no ilvl. Just level requirement

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A deicide sword is the same no matter what you drop it from

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But a weapon that requires level 60 is gonna have better implicit stats than a weapon that requires 20

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In addition, there are weapons and armor with implicits that will work with minions

prisma pumice
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Are they different implicit ranges though?

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Like from what I say a turquoise amulet always can roll up to 35 minion damage

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So the roll depends on the level req?

vapid aspen
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Yeah and that is the only amulet that does it

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Roll is always same ranfe

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And turquoise always requires same level

prisma pumice
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Ok

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But my understanding is I cant filter more than 1 thing on an item

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So I cant filter both max level AND an explicit mod right

vapid aspen
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You can filter base type, affixes (not implicits)

prisma pumice
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Since if it hits one condition it ignores all below right

vapid aspen
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Yea you can combine

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Each condition can have more than one part

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So I can say "base type = x" and "rarity = magic" for one condition

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And also add in a "has Z affix"

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Lemme show example, give me a few min to turn pc on

prisma pumice
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My goal is just to not have to pick up trash and read useless magic items but thats what the filter i was using was showing me

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It was made by some rank 1 minion player so I thought there was something I was missing

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I think I am just going to look for a better filter because frankly I don't understand anything about the game to actually know what I need

vapid aspen
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Just to show what I use basically

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This is the second rule there, its a combination of these two things

lunar wing
random dock
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^

vapid aspen
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Yeah I just like having individual toggles for them

random dock
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ahhhhhhhh I see

Im really excited for monday 🙂

lunar wing
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I bought the game yesterday and i'm reaaaally lost x)

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too much info

vapid aspen
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Give it time and you'll get a feel for it

prisma pumice
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I'm pretty close to dropping it lol

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This just feels like trying to mess with linux

vapid aspen
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I mean if you want I can give you my filter. Its not tuned for minion though, but I use it on every character.

prisma pumice
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I do not think the filter will be able to do what I want it to do

vapid aspen
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What do you actually want it to do?

random dock
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I can give you my filter since Im doing a ice minion build

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on my old necro

prisma pumice
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That would be appreciated

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I just think the one I got had some optional conditions enabled or something

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I basically just want to pick up everything my filter shows me and not have to actually read stuff on the ground and waste time

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So anything thats not a base I will use or some with stats I want to craft on or shatter

vapid aspen
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And I assume you also want sets uniques and exalteds showing?

prisma pumice
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I do understand there are limitations like not being able to set conditions on implicit ranges so ill have to pick up a lot of bases to find good rolls

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Yeah

vapid aspen
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primalist or acolyte?

prisma pumice
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Its acolyte cold minions

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I guess my biggest thing is trying to get off my max efficiency mindset

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I use like an uber strict poe filter for zoom zoom and magic items even showing up just gives me a headache

vapid aspen
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this is a decent starting point at least maybe. Someone else might have better.

prisma pumice
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My friends recommended me LE but they are far more causal in poe and as someone who fully engaged in high end poe crafting LE feels super shallow

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Thanks friend

vapid aspen
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The first and second rules are the ones you would want to adjust. The third one is just showing all rings and amulets but you could filter those down by base type

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The first rule is recoloring red for shatter. It has most of the class specific affixes and cdr and movespeed

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There is room for tweaks there though

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Second rule is saying to show any item with a base type close to your level and at least one minion related affix

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you could add a tier requirement to that as well to further limit

random dock
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this is my filter but its very specific to my build

the loot filter changes that are coming will be making the filter more strict but it will be much better

since you will be able to make it so it shows you lets say "show me items with at least these 2 affixes/tiers"

you will of course be able to choose the affixes from the list

sand tendon
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Alright gamers. If I am wanting to roll a unique wep thats level 6, and I am like level 70, can I go farm in level 6 zones or will the loot scale to me? I can't roll for the base reliably because the base might show once in every 60 refreshes or so.

pseudo cipher
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loot scales to area level, so yes you can do that.

sand tendon
balmy current
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The zone needs to be higher than the item level.

iron zealot
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Do two of the same set item count toward the set bonus (such as with rings or dual wield)?

vapid aspen
dry summit
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hey i have the quest "ruined world" lvl 18 and should travel east to a temple, cant find the main quest symbol

iron zealot
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You tried using your map (M) to see if you're missing something?

sand tendon
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Anyone else encounter delays with some whisper messages? Where they will send a minute or two later, but only some of them?

leaden basin
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A full minute later? No. But all whispers always seem to take 1-3 seconds longer to send than normal messages.

ashen anvil
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is it worth keeping two copies of shard of the shattered lance?

quick thorn
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Thats up to you. I keep 2 copies of all uniques but thats because i just want to. There might be a time when you might want to DW th em but I cant think of a reason right now

past sequoia
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hey guys, would you say mage - spellblade is a good starter build for a complete new player? (boardman21's guide on forums)

balmy current
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Spellblade's a good tanky character with the amount of ward on hit they can get.

past sequoia
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thank you, lets see how far it takes me 😄

balmy current
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Don't be too worried about trying stuff out, respeccing passives is easy (pink brain gal in the council chambers/end of time) & skills level up faster after you've respecc'd them down far enough.

tropic oasis
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Love that about this game, coming from trying PoE as my first ARPG and bricking builds and trying to comprehend 15 leagues of stuff was a total brain burner.

dry summit
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how expensive is it for me to reskill? i am lvl 25 on my very first character and i am bit overwhelmed

cloud kindle
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Changing your skills is just a matter of time. You'll spec new skills and get several points back, so you'll have to farm an already done zone to get xp and level the new skills. No other cost

dry summit
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oh i think i was talking about my passives as well, sorry for confusing

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is the gold price icnreasing?

dark fox
dry summit
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thanks, guess i will farm some gold:)

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best way might be to sell the rares?

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or blues aswell?

dark fox
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nah, rely on the autopickups. Rares aren't worth selling. You may also sell uniques for 500 gold, they also drop fairly often

dry summit
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ist it also possible to respec sorcerer into spellblade?

dark fox
dry summit
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ty

dry summit
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which lootfilter is recommended? or should i delist all blues for example?

noble rose
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Blues can be really good for crafting, I'd personally recommend either finding a lootfilter to import from the forums or just making your own, slightly changing and adding to it as you go and seeing what works

cloud kindle
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First, start by recoloring what you're looking for and don't hide anything. Then, when you're happy with it, you can add a "hide all" at the end and change "recolor" for "show"

olive tinsel
# prisma pumice I am just used to a filter that ONLY shows me stuff I want to pick up, and by de...

While I understand what you would like to have.

It's not that easy to do in LE without getting build specific.
My Loot Filter is meant for a baseline, that is as generic as possible, while also highlighting relatively rare affixes and idols.

But I just want to emphasize again. Magic Items in LE are not trash, due to how the crafting system works.
A Tier 5-10 Magic Item is one of the most common base that can lead to T20 Items.

olive tinsel
random dock
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they also said that it wouldn't be like dropping an mp3

cause POE loot filter happens 😅

olive tinsel
olive tinsel
random dock
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I mean the tech is already there with uniques/sets....only makes sense

but those features aren't a priority right now obviously

olive tinsel
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Just because the tech is there still doesn't make it a certain feature, where the player will have control.

While I personally would like that feature too, I just think we as a community should not make any definite statements what will or will not come, if no dev gave a precise answer regarding a given topic.

olive tinsel
# dry summit which lootfilter is recommended? or should i delist all blues for example?

Also if you don't mind the shameless self-plug.

I did create a generic loot filter for every class.

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-1h-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2a/25176?u=heavy

Last Epoch Forums

Hey there, I decided to work on some loot filters, for more casual players that don’t want to bother to much with the new Loot Filter that much. Those Loot Filters are also a great template to create your personal Loot Filter. Overview: What are those Loot Filters doing? Hide all Items not for your cla...

balmy current
peak tundra
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Hey guys, I read the other day whlie I was playign that soon the multiplayer will be launched

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and that our current characters cannot be played there right?

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Is there any date for multiplayer?

cloud kindle
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Around the end of this year, yes

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We'll keep our current characters but they will remain strictly offline

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If you want to play online, you'll need to create new characters

peak tundra
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ohh

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thanks!

sage kestrel
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is reduce enemy armor helpful when using minions (that only deal fire damage) or is this debuff useless for my build ?

vapid aspen
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Armor reduction will help your minions hit damage, but not their ignite damage if they have any.

sage kestrel
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i don't think i have ignite so i think i'm good then 🙂 thank you

sage kestrel
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nvm

scenic fiber
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does the chest you get after a monolith hold multiple runs or do i need to open it after each run

random dock
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after each run

solar lintel
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Hi is there a page I can post of my fan art drawing, p.s it mostly anime style character?

iron zealot
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Start a forum post titled: "WeebLE, Fan Art" 😄

solar lintel
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Or it could be called artwork

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😎

iron zealot
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Google "weeble" to get the joke 😉

solar lintel
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Hmm

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As for drawing I did it mostly cute 2d anime character

quick thorn
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I would post them here https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/off-topic/24 Their forum section is very limited in the different places but I think that is the most appropriate place on the offical forums

solar lintel
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OK thanks

iron zealot
solar lintel
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Thanks again

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👍

grave salmon
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How common are bans in this game? People were comparing general chat to the POE chat saying it was bad. Someone replied saying EHG themselves monitor the chat. I replied to that saying "Fuck EHG, all my homies like GGG." That is literally the only thing I did that possibly could have gotten me banned. Do the devs really get that upset about silly memes in their video game chat?

pseudo cipher
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Bans aren't particularly common, but being generally respectful in chat is probably a good approach.

grave salmon
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I wasn't being disrespectful. I was referencing a pretty common meme. Pretty damn embarrassing on their part tbh.

pseudo cipher
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I wasn't there for the particulars of why your account was banned. Just offering general advice that could rule this sort of thing out. Could always check with support directly if you think the ban was unfair. Fortunately according to your ask-the-devs statement it seems to only be a 24 hour ban.

grave salmon
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Yeah, I appreciate it. Don't mean to sound rude towards you. Just very frustrated about someone at the studio being butthurt and power tripping about something. I left the game a negative steam review months ago in regards to game issues and I was trying to give it another shot. This definitely isn't helping their case.

opal mesa
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I mean i have 200 hours in the game and not once have i seen anyone make that joke, I’ve seen PoE simps in the chat, but EHG isn’t often in chat, however there are constant moderators.

abstract pecan
random dock
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thats why I have global disabled in POE/LE XD

its bad enough on the LE sub with people bitching about POE problems lmao

simple widget
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actually i think people still dog on any new ARPG.. especially poe players which some of them are like cultists

lyric plaza
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Discord chat is defintley the most mature platform in terms of discussion for the game

fierce kraken
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discord is better for quick questions and short opinions. forum is great for long form discussion.

opal mesa
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Au contraire my good friend, general chat is great for long argum- I mean discussions!

fierce kraken
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by long form i was referring to the length of each post. Discord is 1-3 sentences at a time on the forum its very common to see multiple paragraphs

simple widget
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you can still do that on discord

fierce kraken
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can =/= better

simple widget
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i don't get it

lament pulsar
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Hello so I'm having fun with this game but it's really the first time I'm playing a game like this. I got to level 20 and am just wondering about gear. Is there anything specific I should do with the forge or not yet?

opal mesa
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Not yet, focus on levelling first

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the forge is to get specific pieces of gear you want for lategame

fierce kraken
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i would say use the forge if you are struggling.

opal mesa
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if hes only lvl 20 on his first time he wont have many shards

cloud kindle
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Craft as soon as you wish, but use only very common shards. I'd say mainly craft your weapon, it's your main damage source. You can also add a bit of resistances, but more around level 40.

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And don't forget that in endgame, you will renew all your gear progressively

lament pulsar
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I'm doing fine so far. Died a couple times because I wasn't paying attention 😒 but roger that. I've just been selling everything that's not better than what I have equipped

marsh maple
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focus on capping physical resistance and getting movement speed @lament pulsar

balmy current
safe meadow
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Is there a difference between the forge you find in certain areas and the normal crafting tab? I'm pretty sure its the same thing?

Also, multiplayer is still on the table for this year right?

versed willow
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no difference

opal mesa
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^ and yes it is

versed willow
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and yes mp is still up

safe meadow
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Thx for the quick response. Much obliged

lime gust
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is there a general agreement on when do you go for staves instead of 1H+offhand on casters?

cloud kindle
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Staves give more damage, offhand adds more crit possibility

glad maple
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is there a way to get Exsanguinous or i can only pray ?

urban horizon
glad maple
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thanks

quick thorn
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I have noticed that it does drop more if you farm a level area that is its level. Since there is only like 4 unique chests that can drop. I get it mostly from my low level play throughs

balmy current
cloud kindle
minor vigil
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hey yall im just wondering when making builds in this game do you focus on exactly one main skill? or do you use a few skills for damage?

vapid aspen
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Both, kinda. Really depends on the class tbh.

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There are a lot of trigger chains you can do. Pretty sure every class has at least one, those are sometimes a good place to start.

minor vigil
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kk thanks!

spare veldt
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Hi guys, there ll be a wipe next monday? Can I start a new caracter this week-end then continued with the next patch?

cloud kindle
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No wipe

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The devs already said they'll do a wipe if there is no way to avoid it, so no problem for Monday

spare veldt
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Thansk

oblique basalt
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OBS question - I can't seem to get LE to show up on OBS. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone else having this issue?

pseudo cipher
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I haven't, but I share my entire screen instead of just the game. You could try turning on streamer mode and see if that makes any difference

oblique basalt
pseudo cipher
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Oh yeah sorry I mean streamer mode in LE. There's a setting in the game that can often help with streaming issues, so it might be worth checking it and seeing what happens

oblique basalt
oblique basalt
pseudo cipher
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Awesome! Glad it worked 🙂

grave salmon
# abstract pecan 1) we don’t know what else you said. A lot of time when people said they could o...

I literally said nothing else that could have been bannable, not that what I said was. I asked about a build calculator and thanked a guy for pointing me in the right direction. Here is a reference to the meme, just to show that it’s not some obscure thing. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fuck-x-all-my-homies-use-y?_gl=1*sd05oe*_ga*YW1wLVBhUGs3STl6eXYxUXNMa3VKRndNR3JDZ2sxcmVfYjRaaFFRUUpGQzVMOXZONnVlZUllT0FRWjAyQ1kwcm9jdUI. It’s a bummer that people can’t make a silly joke at the expense of the devs without the threat of ban. I just don’t see myself coming back to this game at this point.

Know Your Meme

Fuck X, All My Homies Use Y and Fuck X, All My Homies Hate Y refers to a series of snowclone memes based on a photograph of six men wearing sagging pants and making gang hand signs. The format originated on Instagram in October 2017 and gained widespread popularity in early 2019.

steep marten
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Is there a way to leech health from ignite dmg?

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i assume spell damage leeched as health doesnt count

vapid aspen
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As long as its not leeched as health on hit it should work

near moon
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Anyone know if this mondays patch will include stuff like balancing/bug fixing or is it only the monolith changes?

vapid aspen
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We know its not purely monolith changes. Idk if they 100% confirmed bugfixing or balancing specifically, but pretty sure those are extremely likely

pseudo cipher
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I don't think there's ever been a patch that didn't have at least some bug fixing and balance changes, so it's a pretty safe bet that this one will too 🙂

dense remnant
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'at the expense of the devs' And yet still don't see the problem with your behaviour lmfao

vapid aspen
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Just gonna drop this here real sneaky like

dense remnant
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you got 24 hours for saying something, that you admit was at the expense of the devs. Just accept that ehg dont want people saying stuff at their expense, and stop worrying about it

vapid aspen
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99% sure its more because saying that would totally derail the chat lol. Sure its a joke to you, but its basically prime bait to start a senseless argument in chat.

dense remnant
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i highly doubt ehg banned someone for 24 hours for saying something that could derail chat

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that would be an extremely terrible way to moderate a games chat

vapid aspen
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More than derail. Better word was start a flame war and drown out everyone else for the next 20 minutes

dense remnant
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again, terrible way to moderate

vapid aspen
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Which is by definition trolling

near moon
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Thanks for the answer!

dense remnant
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you cant take something that subjective and go 'okay we can ban people for this type of thing'

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it opens up way too much room for abuse

vapid aspen
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Just my interpretation. not gonna debate about it

dense remnant
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the most likely thing is the dude said more, because in 99% of situations like this, the dude said more. and if not, whoever at ehg deemed what they said to be disrespectful enough to warrant a temporary ban

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If ehg are banning people temporarily for stuff they deemed as trolling, a real heads up on that would be great

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because I reckon a lot of people would look at that as a rule and go 'no thanks' and just leave

pseudo cipher
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there are a lot of factors we could consider, but ultimately I think we should focus on leaving this channel open for questions 🙂

dense remnant
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because that would just be a superbly bad way to do stuff

lament pulsar
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Can I level up items so I can continue using them?

balmy current
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The affixes yes but not the base

lament pulsar
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I don't know what affixes are and I assume the base is the lvl thing at the bottom right.

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Ty tho 😁

vapid aspen
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Top section here is the base

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These are the affixes

grave salmon
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@dense remnant @vapid aspen I assure you I 100% didn’t say more than that. My joke at the expense of the devs, as I said was literally me saying fuck them, I prefer GGG, in a chat that was already discussing the chat differences between EHG and GGG. Although I said it was at EHG’s expense, it was hardly an expense. I have never heard of a game banning someone because a player said “fuck the devs” in a joking manner (as I did) or seriously. When I got the ban email it didn’t say why. I’ve reached out inquiring about the ban, but haven’t heard back from them yet. God forbid players joke around in chat. Raein mentioned that it would be by definition trolling. Does EHG anywhere actively define trolling? And is one instance of it enough to warrant a ban? I find it to be entirely poor moderation on their part and their lack of follow up or explanation is pretty weak, too.

dense remnant
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id be interested to see what their response to you is

vapid aspen
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I'm not going to argue with you about this. this is a questions channel not a debate your ban channel.

grave salmon
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I’ll be sure to tag you guys or pm you about it if you’d want.

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And my question, Raein, is why did I get banned? Do they define trolling? Did my message fit into that definition?

dense remnant
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tbh i think this being a channel for asking the community, makes this a pretty fitting place to bring up questions about what is an acceptable level of moderation/punishment for that moderation

quick thorn
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They do not discuss bans. There is no use to ask us community about it at all. Every single community person has no idea what is going on with your ban. I will tell you I love BM and I recommend it

dense remnant
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I mean, the poe community wasnt exactly quiet when empy got a ban for the season

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this stuff is important

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and like this isnt an exploit

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this is something, that as presented could be a pretty wierd road to go down

vapid aspen
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I don't have the answer to your questions, and I'm not particularly invested in your questions either. I'm just here to discuss the game, not meta stuff like this.

marsh maple
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@quick thorn I actually need to play solo scorpion next

quick thorn
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I tried it for a bit and the clear was what destroyed it for me. I think maybe with smarter AI and more movement speed it could work.

bitter totem
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  1. Be respectful! Personal abuse, obscene, harassing, threatening, or defamatory remarks of any nature won't be tolerated. -> the first rule in the rules page, just gonna leave this here 🙂
dense remnant
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yeah, but surely you just ban the person from chat?

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not a day ban from the game

grave salmon
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Thanks @quick thorn pretty weird they don’t discuss bans. They should. If they don’t discuss it, like Aurora said, if they don’t it gives them free reign to do whatever they want, which isn’t okay.

bitter totem
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They do discuss bans, if you contact their support, but were a couple days from one of their biggest patches ever

quick thorn
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I have never seen a game that allows community to make up the rules for bans. We could talk till our voices go out and we would still have no say in what is/isnt bannable. That is only made at the company level. I understand you guys want to talk about it but there is nothing we can say/do to change anything about a ban process

bitter totem
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To put it bluntly, they have bigger priorities than your ban

dense remnant
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yeah games dont let communities make up the rules

abstract pecan
# grave salmon <@129037074631229440> <@281824515191865346> I assure you I 100% didn’t say more ...

Assuming the situation is exactly as you described it, I’ll add a few points:

  1. it’s hard to tell a joke from a serious comment on the internet
  2. sure it’s a meme you can Google. But I really don’t think it’s as famous or popular as you think in 2021
  3. can I confirm that’s a chat ban? Not a game login ban? If so, I again empathize with the devs. Less with u. This is a start up company in early access. They want to police their chat somewhat but don’t have the resources to necessarily dish out very nuanced restrictions. If it’s the latter (banning u from playing, I can see why u might think it’s extreme)
  4. similar to point 3, this is a game by a tiny studio in early access. They don’t have all the resources and time in the world to spend dealing with this particular issue. Esp if it’s just a chat ban.
dense remnant
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but lets be real, if they legitamtely are going to go forward with 'we'll temporarily ban you from playing the game for one isntance of a bad joke or troll in our chat' then the games doomed

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if this happened to the wrong person, or enough times, it'd just ruin the reputation

bitter totem
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This is the first time ive ever heard about it happening, Im finding it pretty hard to believe you got banned just for being a shitter in chat peepoShrug

vapid aspen
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No the game isn't doomed. I turned off global chat the day I started playing because the messages were distracting and consistently got me killed XD

dense remnant
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imagine ziz was playing, said something that was taken the wrong way by a dev in chat, and got a day ban

abstract pecan
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Has he confirmed it’s a ban from playing the game? Not chat?

dense remnant
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from what they've been saying its not a chat ban, its a game ban jerle

bitter totem
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He hasnt said anything for a while

quick thorn
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There is nothing "bad joke" about what that person said. That was straight disrespectful to me. That is completely out of line and there is no place in society to go around talking like that. I understand its easy to say profanity and throw it at a entity or person over the internet but I am glad that they are trying to get that out of this game.

bitter totem
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Do we know exactly what was said?

dense remnant
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i mean, different cultures have different things they take as okay

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if you've ever raided with australians, eep

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lmao

abstract pecan
quick thorn
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"F*** EHG, all my homies like GGG." according to the original author

bitter totem
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Yeah but theres a difference between it being targeted and it being something said in jest

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Thats pretty cringe lol

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and he said this in the in game chat?

quick thorn
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According to them yes

bitter totem
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Then like whats to discuss lmao? Thats spam/trolling take the L dude

vapid aspen
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I'm all for bans for excess of cringe. I'm also in full support of bans for puns that are dangerously bad.

bitter totem
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You get a chat ban in PoE for posting a toucan kekW

quick thorn
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Bad puns are the worst. But i still love them 🙂

dense remnant
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from the other angle on this being potentially bad (if it is a game ban) is that banning for something subjective like that is like, realllllly bad for avoiding problematic behaviour from devs etc... in regards to discrimination

abstract pecan
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I definitely think there’s more latitude for a chat ban in an early access startup studio. And it’s not certainly out of line for me. A game ban would be more concerning for me.

dense remnant
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When rules are subjective, it tends to not be the majority that get effected by them

bitter totem
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Yeah a game ban is abit much

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But also like I dunno, how hard is it to not be a shitter lol

dense remnant
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thats where im coming at this from, if its a chat ban who gives a shit

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if its a game ban, thats something that i really hope doesnt continue

quick thorn
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I have 0 idea of what the original author has done/said outside of that or what not so I dont know if its warranted or not and EHG will never tell us so Im just going to shrug.

vapid aspen
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But we know nothing about the context this was said in, and honestly, who even cares. It was a 24 hour ban. by my math, the ban already ended.

bitter totem
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Deserved, change my mind kekW

fierce kraken
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jay careful what you ask for your going to get a true random discussion all over again

bitter totem
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If you wouldnt say it IRL, face to face to whoever its about, dont say it on the internet 5Head

dense remnant
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hmm, i mean people say stuff face to face id rather not see as well

bitter totem
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Yeah but its a lot more likely that your actions will have consequences irl

dense remnant
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lol

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not really, but okay

bitter totem
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Yes really, like thats not even an argument lmao

iron zealot
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You heard him. No consequences on the internet. Free to be a dick!

bitter totem
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^

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pretty much that was my point

dense remnant
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i take it your a guy

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and not a women

vapid aspen
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New rule 1: No more talking. If you talk, in any situation, about anything, you are bad. Talking about fluffy rodents in an ice cream parlor? Bad.

dense remnant
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lmao

abstract pecan
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I agree with not casually siding with either side as we don’t have the full story. But I think still useful to consider the situation assuming what OP said was the full situation. The company’s policy matters. Assuming it’s exactly as he put it, I don’t want to be banned from the game (not chat) just because I let slip something.

dense remnant
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^

iron zealot
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Even if I was female, it would be difficult to be several of them

dense remnant
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my point is that what people say face to face isnt a measurement of acceptability

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because guys can be massive jerks

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irl as well

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lol

bitter totem
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You cant just go around freely being an ass irl, I mean you can, but generally eventually you suffer consequences

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Yeah of course

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But really? why bring gender into it, girls can be jerks too

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Like thats a whole other step

iron zealot
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Weird that you're making it sound like just guys do that

dense remnant
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lol, well before this gets to 'not all guys' imma quickly leave

vapid aspen
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(not just legal/physical consequences, finding yourself with no friends and depressed is a consequence of being a jerk too)

bitter totem
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^

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exactly