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lone flume
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LE tries to load into the End of Time location and after a while fails with the lost connection message (timeout?)

white linden
lone flume
white linden
lone flume
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i did nothing it fixed somehow on its own

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tried other online games on my computer just to see my internet is ok that is all. Didn't even restart LE

white linden
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Okay. Thanks for letting me know! Glad it has resolved itself.

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Let us know if you run into any other issues!

flint widget
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@white linden Question where do I do a ticket at in game menu or discord

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I see this one

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Also can Dm you?

white linden
# flint widget <@1394747818123722811> Question where do I do a ticket at in game menu or discor...

If you want to contact us, use Modmail, all you have to do is DM @grave epoch.
I would absolutely suggest doing it in-game here as shown

Normally, you can contact support via https://support.lastepoch.com
That would take you to some FAQs as well or just use that link directly and submit a request at the top right.

When launching the game, double check any RAM/Memory usage as well to help rule things out.

flint widget
white linden
flint widget
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Done and uploaded a video

white linden
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Thank you very much

civic mantle
white linden
civic mantle
flint widget
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@white linden want to know something weird

fringe matrix
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Looking for a Shattered Worlds relic in Legacy if anyone has any spears. (circle of fortune) i can gift other items back.

tight violet
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I have some but heading out now. have to play together to get golden ressonance before anyone can give.

icy drift
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It would need to be an obsidian for that

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Which take quite a long time to get

hasty tartan
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Haven't played in a while but was looking at the teasers.
A couple questions:
Are they planning to balance the paid classes similarly to the normal ones, to minimize the pay to win feel? I understand that money has been an issue, but I tend to lean hard against heavy pay to win. If it's just "this is an alternate class but not specifically made to be OP", it's more understandable.
Are "ruined" items after corruption unequippable or just bad rolls?

storm blaze
hasty tartan
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I kind of hoped they could have gone another direction re monetization, but I'm not part of the team and don't know what solutions look like. I'd hope so too (for similar balancing). Some of the S4 stuff looks cool, I guess it depends on how both it and POE1's 3.28 go. Kind of just watching right now. Thanks.

vale thistle
storm blaze
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They would've liked to keep it financed with the cosmetics but they didn't sell enough
Ah well

vale thistle
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I've probably given this feedback elsewhere, but at least part of the reason for that is most of the cosmetics kinda suck and there aren't enough of them.

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I have a bunch of unused Epoch Points.. literally just waiting for something good, lol.

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Like the few armor sets I do own, they have painfully low resolution textures. Most of the skills I'm interested in have literally zero MTX, etc.

storm blaze
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Yeah, if they put in mtx for most popular skills I'm sure they'd sell
provided they look good

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And then you've stuff like the mtx for raptors breaking the roar?

slow eagle
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The multistrike mtx makes me the saddest, like yeah multi strike is a visually meh skill but like just recolors?

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I do love the void walker gaze hat

hardy forum
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is this what I need to use if I have a max rolled T7 affix and upgrading it to T8 primordial?

Because I thought it stays maxed out, then I tried to reroll it but that didn't work really.

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desert tree
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Probably

split cedar
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So I've made a necro leveling build, to go abomination, but reskilling every session is not for me, now i'm stuck with a necro that I don't use 🙁 Any suggestions guys?

crystal jackal
split cedar
crystal jackal
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I know it. Was just curious if that’s what you meant.

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You can respec to warlock or lich as well

split cedar
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Yeah but I just liked the minions >.<

crystal jackal
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Make sure you take the death night and profane bloom nodes first in the skelly mage tree

split cedar
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Hmm...

crystal jackal
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Think there’s a kit different version of the is build on YouTube with 5-6 skelly mage death night. I’ll see if I can find it.

split cedar
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Hmm that roid mage might be interesting actually 😮

crystal jackal
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But you HAVE to take death profane oblation node with the initial skill points you have when you spwcialize a skill

split cedar
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I see. I'll try out roid mage, thanks! 😮

crystal jackal
crystal jackal
split cedar
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okay, I'll give it a shot

crystal jackal
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I can’t find the other build variant now. On my phone so. Can’t do search here

desert tree
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The skeleton sacrifice Mages build looks pretty fun.

acoustic thicket
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Hello is it possible to use my mtx cosmetics in true offline? I saw a post on Reddit saying devs made it possible but they aren’t showing up when I switch to true offline.

toxic echo
acoustic thicket
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I have

toxic echo
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and then it should populate to your offline

storm blaze
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When was the last time you did log in online?
Might need to do that if you did it before this thing was changed

acoustic thicket
toxic echo
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!support

ripe brookBOT
fringe birch
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I double-checked harbinger drop chance mechanics from game files and you are right, harbinger unique loot drop chance is affected by cof10.
I added cof scaling for harbingers, thanks for bringing this to my attention.

livid cloud
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is there something like poe ninja for last epoch? I'm new to LE

toxic echo
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not really

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places like lastepochtools and maxroll (and plenty others) have builds and stuff

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but there isnt really a huge breakdown or anything from the game

icy drift
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There is a pob branch for LE but it's still not in a state where I'd really recommend it

pearl token
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Thornshell is supposed to be a common unique right? can't seem to get it to drop for some reason

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and it shouldn't be hidden by my filter

burnt crag
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insanely common, shield prophecies shit them out

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very easy to 3-4 LP also, made 5 4lp this season

faint cape
pearl token
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yeah it's just the first copy that seems to be rough, would be easy with imprinting afterwards. didn't think I'd need prophecies since it was supposed to be common but will bite the bullet

pearl token
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got one from first prophecy, GG

crystal jackal
split cedar
neon compassBOT
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Necromancer, Level 100
Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Necromancer (67) / Lich (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,002, Regen: 28.6/s
▸ Mana: 134.51, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 145%, Regen: 183/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 27 Dex / 49 Int / 17 Att / 56 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 52% / 52% / 68% / 68% / 176% / 122%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 112%, Threshold: 800
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (178)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,634)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Bone Golem / Summon Skeletal Mage / Aura Of Decay / Dread Shade

This build has a guide:

Poison Skeleton Rogues Endgame Build Guide...1 Button Build! Crazy Necro Poison Damage! by Action RPG

graceful cliff
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The coolest Rampant Coast beast of them ALL?? 😎

maiden crane
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Can anyone help me with some gold on legacy? I just got back after a year+ and my talents were reset so i thought i could just do a new mastery and ended up putting all my points into a different mastery guess i have to go switch masterys at the person and redo my points but i only have 20gold atm and i really dont want to restart

marsh hedge
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Can anyone help? How can I complete this quest when my points are blocked?

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icy drift
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You should be able to follow apophis after act 9

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I think in the end of time you can talk to elder Gaspar? It's been a while since I did it myself

glad forge
low shadow
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can echos trigger aurelis smite chance?

severe valve
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what are the chances of rune of removal removing an exalted affix? I have a feeling the rng is rigged here or I'm just being oddly unlucky...

desert tree
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It's pure rng

desert tree
severe valve
low shadow
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looks like a fun smite buildwith that aps and if echos of multistrike can trigger smite i should be able to get 29 smites per sec lol

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oh no probably more because of additional swords with echod skills so 32 or 33

hardy forum
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im at lvl 62, leveling a rogue falconer. Should I slam these 2 together?

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rain forum
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My Ending the Storm Blessing has the full purple circle(normally indicating that you have the best possible roll), but when showing the mod range, it shows availability of a higher possible roll than what I have. Which is it? Am I bugged?

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Is it because theres two mods on that Blessing, and one of the mods does have the highest roll?

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If I kept trying the Ending the Storm boss, could I get a higher roll on the Ward Decay Threshold mod?

candid elm
candid elm
candid elm
toxic echo
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It is currently intended

kindred narwhal
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Really weird to have them roll separately Gregory

rain forum
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@candid elmJust got this roll and it has less purple line :P

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candid elm
hardy forum
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I mean not that important.

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thanks for the answer

faint cape
candid elm
pulsar elk
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does the puncture after death from heartseeker work on frozen enemies?

rain forum
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so if I change to a different blessing, and want to change back, the one that is remembered is the 130 ward gained on potion with the lowish +201 ward decay threshold?

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I can see how that would be the case

faint cape
vale thistle
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I can think of a few better ways to handle hybrid mods on blessings, it's probably just a matter of getting the right person to look at the issue and agree it should be changed 😅

faint cape
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Yeah, I mean the simplest solution would be to just make them operate off only one roll... hard enough getting a perfect roll on a single stat blessing as it is lol

wheat pilot
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hello bros i have question When I use Synchronized Strike into Shadow Cascade and kill a mob, does the kill count as Shadow Cascade's kill or Synchronized Strike's?

vale thistle
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it should depend on which hit actually kills the mob, they don't happen at exactly the same time

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getting kill credit on synchronized strike seems easier to me, since it has umbral execution

visual wraith
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Anyone know if there are any official notes on proccing chest imprints within Vault of the Barnacle King and how the mechanics work compared to Unclaimed Troves? Some debate on where proc rates are the same.

meager junco
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if it procs it's the same everywhere

fallen parcel
velvet agate
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Hi guys, what Corruption level gives the maximum increase to rare item drops ?

vale thistle
faint cape
merry breach
crystal jackal
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What does rarity actually do?
Lets say I’m farming a 98% reroll affix of the higher lvl chest. What’s the difference between doing it on 300c vs 3000c?

meager junco
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you get more affixes on your items

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you get like 10x more items and slightly more affixes

crystal jackal
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rarity gives more items?

meager junco
tiny helm
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So if I have the Destructive Power node that lets my sabertooth proc upheaval and use its tree, and I have the Primal Bulwark node on upheaval, does my sabertooth get the earth armor or my character?

desert tree
tiny helm
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oh, it doesnt say you have to directly use it but I trust

desert tree
tiny helm
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Thank you. I have seen them specifically use the verbage Direct Use so I thought that had to be there. Good to know going forward

desert tree
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They do be somewhat inconsistent

pale fog
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Do you still need to go through the story to unlock all of the idol slots?

robust vessel
pale fog
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tyvm is that changing next season, or do those idol thingies just jumble up what's unlocked?

toxic echo
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you can get some unlocks from dungeon skips...but yeah its still doing the campaign

candid elm
pale fog
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Ok that's a shame tyvm

candid elm
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and then idols in those spots got a purple glow

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we'll have to see what that actually does when we get more info on it

storm blaze
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Yeah those spots boost the effect of the idol

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I think that was already teased

desert tree
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That's new?

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No?

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Never seen that idol

storm blaze
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Yes that's a new idol

desert tree
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Oo

candid elm
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maybe corrupted? there's a couple in the inventory in the trailer

storm blaze
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Kinda looks shattered somehow

toxic echo
candid elm
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here's a picture without the purple effect from the idol altar thing

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storm blaze
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Yup

tiny helm
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SoIf I turn upheaval into a totem. Does it scale on totem cast speed or minion attack speed?

desert tree
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Minion AS

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Since Upheaval is a Melee Attack

quick crown
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on amulets, is the "minion area and Damage" affix (Centurions) mutually exclusive with the minion Damage affix (Commanders) ? or can you have both on a single amulet?

desert tree
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They are not

storm blaze
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<@&1161418687471956101> here too

rain forum
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Is there any way to add LP to an item other than the Nemesis egg? Got a really nice ring and want to maximize the chance of getting some LP on it. Ideally 2+

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storm blaze
crystal jackal
rain forum
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interesting, so if I get a crappy affix on it but imprint it in my weaver tree, if it drops, it will drop as LP and not the affix?

desert tree
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Correct

rain forum
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is there any way to reroll the affix without rerolling the base rolls?

quick crown
wide sentinel
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@inner mountain its all blue

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faint cape
wide sentinel
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@blazing glacier that x2

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🙂

blazing glacier
wide sentinel
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on endgame gear

blazing glacier
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what is end game, full 2t7 or?

wide sentinel
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no

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maxroll endgame

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1xt7 no crazy lp

wide sentinel
blazing glacier
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that's like 1m per sec though if you doing 4m hits

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ish

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uber is like 250m hp

wide sentinel
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yebut he also has stomp and autos

blazing glacier
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how you doing 40s

wide sentinel
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i mean u can watch the vid

blazing glacier
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which vid?

wide sentinel
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its 52 sec without snapshot

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40 with

blazing glacier
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yea that's pretty good

wide sentinel
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only minions

blazing glacier
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this seems comparable to LB without the snapshot abuse

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is there echo gameplay?

wide sentinel
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no, other people maye have it

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the new amulet

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18 all stast insane for abom

blazing glacier
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thats showing 18m crit on uber

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this video

wide sentinel
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oh lol

blazing glacier
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that makes more sense if you doing 50s

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or was that the execute at end

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I forget if execute shows as damage number

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naw its like 13m regular

wide sentinel
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i think only on trash minions

blazing glacier
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all the gameply i've seen the echo clear looks pretty slow

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can you pull abom with traversal boot affix?

wide sentinel
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you neeed that for speeeeed

blazing glacier
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ah man, all these exploits

wide sentinel
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with inf shade it zooms

blazing glacier
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last time I abused snapshot for build everyone was salty as hell

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xd

wide sentinel
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i want to cook full brutality max aoe frenzy belt 3k mana warpath zhp

blazing glacier
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you should cook some Runic Invo stuff

wide sentinel
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zdps

blazing glacier
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i think theres some giga scaling with the attr stuff

wide sentinel
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oi tried

blazing glacier
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naw fam

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skill issue

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❤️

wide sentinel
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tree has n0 multis

blazing glacier
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what

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it has decent multis

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bunch of free pen, some mores, like 500% more on fundamental, like 500 flat on Reowyn if you use it, etc.

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multis on traversal, free crit

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good utility access

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I even got like 5m ignite ticks with igneous

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and ignite is poo

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just trolling around

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bad recording but that's Reowyn Igneous

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Similar results with LLL

wide sentinel
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looks good what kind f gear

blazing glacier
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That's like 2T7, minus the high LPs like RR, those are 1T7

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not super optimized build though, first iteration. Reowyn builds need a lot of tweaking

wide sentinel
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need to testvs hydra

blazing glacier
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I did

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igneous did better with similar gear

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hydra has better targeting though

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if you get good hits or on big boss igneous more dps

desert tree
blazing glacier
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the staff

desert tree
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Ah

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It's too early I could only think of the RI

blazing glacier
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Reowyn builds are crazy to gear, getting 5k dodge, armour and ward is a pain

wide sentinel
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u use reowyn on hydra too

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op

blazing glacier
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yep I know

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I did that

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similar gear

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Clear felt better on hydra, boss on igneous

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imo

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you can just swap with changing relic though, easy enough

wide sentinel
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go both

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no flame warf

blazing glacier
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wat

wide sentinel
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glyph+ hydra

blazing glacier
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glyph of D?

wide sentinel
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nvm i misunderstood what u wrre talking abt

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x.x

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i tot u made glyph work

blazing glacier
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I also found the unvar 4x1 idol + runebolt gives like a budget Immutable order without the downside

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kinda neat

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you can spam a lot of RIs

wide sentinel
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will it be enough for 10k orobyss dps wise tho

blazing glacier
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thats ignite

velvet agate
wide sentinel
storm wren
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@viscid musk It mean I should change skill tree from this to that?

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Which skill I can use else after smoke bomb become a traversal skill lol...A free slot is available

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🤔 It mean shurikens no sense too... Shift + shurikens is my defence combo

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Any defence combo for marksman else?

dusty crypt
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I just recently started playing again and I'm finding it won't let me go past 20 points composite in my skills. I seem to remember that you could go past 20 with items when I played before. Am I remembering wrong, or was it changed?

unreal bear
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you have 20 points in smoke and youve spent 20

desert tree
dusty crypt
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Do I need to remove the item giving the +2 until I hit 20?

desert tree
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You need to lvl your character

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There is like a soft cap based on your character lvl

dusty crypt
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Ah, ok

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That makes sense

desert tree
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And it's not influenced by +lvl given by items

dusty crypt
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I knew I could get past 20 with items before, else there'd be no point in slotting items that give + to a skill.

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Thank you for the clarification.

viscid musk
hasty basin
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is there a collection of new item which is revealed so far?

toxic echo
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Since nothing is set in stone...not really going to be on build sites yet

amber void
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i have a question about the "...and hit at least one enemy" effects, does that mean it only trigger once per cast or once per enemy hit?

toxic echo
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if it said 'on hit' it could in theory proc more than once

tiny helm
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does the threashold node from Fresh from the forge that gives forge strike penetration also applky to forge weapons?

toxic echo
faint cape
elder bobcat
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The trailer isnt all s4 is bringing right ?

storm blaze
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Do movie trailers show the entire movie?

elder bobcat
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I really really hope you are right - although from a PR/marketing point of view the trailer amassed quite the negative feedback (If I judge by comments on platforms etc)

storm blaze
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I find it funny that reddit is complaining about the league mechanic being kill mobs in circle
When the community had been asking for something like that and they're the most popular ones in PoE too

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I'm honestly just glad that the league mechanic is in the areas instead of being separate zone

elder bobcat
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what do you reckon could be left out of the trailer

storm blaze
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Well the league content does come with a boss at least and don't think that was shown

slow eagle
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I gotta kill dudes in a zone but I can fail because a ranged mob killed the breach closing lady

storm blaze
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Wait, you had her die? wut

slow eagle
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BONEZONE gaming

storm blaze
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Ah, yea strikes
That would explain it

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To be fair she did almost die for my slam build too until they nerfed the amount of dmg she takes

slow eagle
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My biggest hope for next Poe league is melee is melee ranged again

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I’d play spell or bow if I want to offscreen things

toxic echo
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players "one lone boss is boring give us mob mechanics"

devs "ok"

players "no not like that ugh"

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repeat for eternity

slow eagle
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I am hoping for a natural selection woven echo

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Fight like 10 rift beasts at once

storm blaze
slow eagle
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5 of them are your current rift beast and the others are randomly made ones (with the same total upgrades)

quiet terrace
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Tbh, the d4 expansion looks interesting in that you can choose to play how you want in the endgame. At least based on their trailers.

A mechanic or some changes that will give you a bit more agency on your echoes would be nice. even if it’s like unlocked at 200 corruption, let’s say they give you the option of a completely empty monolith, where you decide how to do things (a mix of what you can currently do with woven echoes for example, and some echo chains, and some boss fights an so on).

Just let me do it how I want. You can implement some checks (for example 1 echo of unique rings every 5 surrounding echos) or no boss fights for blessings… but that would be interesting. Gate echo building behind corruption or something

faint cape
peak citrus
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Anyone know if there a similar spell/skill to Poe2 Firestorm in this game?

faint cape
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Let us farm up evo's end

slow eagle
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Cause that’s how that theory works right

faint cape
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Isn't that basically what the primordial champion affix echo is?

toxic echo
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its not all at once, but its pretty close

slow eagle
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Yeah

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Close but not a complete brawl

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It is a gauntlet tho

proper geode
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Igneous Rain is the closest "looking" thing it has here

tiny helm
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can someone explain how cooldown recovery speed works, I have a 10sec cooldown. I have 34% cooldown recovery speed. Why a I only seeing a .1 second cool down difference. Litterally skill goes from10 to 9.9. I would have thought I would see a multi second difference

proper geode
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its should be about 7.5 seconds

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something could be wrong

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BaseCD/1+ICRS is the math

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so 10/1+.34 = 10/1.34= 7.46

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unless the cd logic is changed somehow

desert tree
desert tree
tiny helm
neon compassBOT
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Necromancer, Level 100
Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (69) / Lich (23)

General:

▸ Health: 2,207, Regen: 233.1/s
▸ Mana: 286.51, Regen: 14.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 156%, Regen: 2/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 14 Dex / 56 Int / 14 Att / 102 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 74% / 74% / 70% / 60% / 162% / 162%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 573
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (66)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,743)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Transplant / Summon Volatile Zombie / Dread Shade / Aura Of Decay

desert tree
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What skill?

tiny helm
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its the idol interacting with summon zombie

desert tree
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Before I open the planner

proper geode
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that 9.9 makes sense with this number

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minion cd is things THEY do

tiny helm
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no. Not the weaver affix. The minion increased cooldown recovery speed

proper geode
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not you summoning

desert tree
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Minion Cdrs is for your minion

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Not for you 😁

tiny helm
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oooooooh

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Thank you makes sense now

proper geode
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ye

desert tree
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If it has a cd on vomit for exemple

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It gets 34% cdrs

unique lark
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I want to play my old season characters, however, my legacy merchants guild is only rank 1. Due to this, I can't put on any of my gear. Is there a work around to this? Or are all my legacy characters worthless?

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nvm fixed it

quiet terrace
unique lark
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yep just did that, thanks!

grand kraken
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where are my characters wth

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faint cape
grand kraken
faint cape
grand kraken
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idk what happend but my characters just poofed

crystal ember
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The convert attunement to apathy stat - is this a new thing? I haven't seen much of the new stuff lately, it is new right?

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rocky rapids
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yes

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basically there is one for each attribute, and everything else will scale the same (so stuff that scales off attunement scales the same off apathy) but the attribute bonus (in the case of attunement, the 2 mana per) will instead provide a different bonus. we don't know what the bonuses for the attributes are yet.

blazing glacier
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Also a new base type, previously only for Evo End unique

crystal ember
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Ah nice nice, thanks! I'm quite excited about the new season, well not so much corruption but everything else so far haha!

desert tree
blazing glacier
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old screenshot

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olive nymph
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Sooooo... Can someone jsut inform the uninformed me... Do they stood by the paid dlc classes or did they back out of it? Asking since the new trailer looks kinda good buuuuu~~t...

storm blaze
olive nymph
storm blaze
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Understandable

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And honestly, I'm not opposed to it
The mtx isn't selling so they're not making any profit and they do want to keep the studio running & keep on making the game

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And people were very much hostile against the idea of paying for the expansion when they announced it

dull escarp
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Even if attributes are converted by a corruption mod, can effects that reference the original attributes—like those on this equipment—still be benefited from?

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storm blaze
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@loud shuttle

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storm blaze
hardy forum
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hey all, I've levelled up a rogue now on a new online account, I'm currently at the last 3 normal monos. I used Terek's leveling guide (https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/falconer-leveling-guide#gameplay-and-skills-header), but I don't know how to swap over to the Ballista Falconer guide for the endgame. (https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/ballista-falconer-guide#gameplay-header). I tried to respec to Ballista after lv 70, but it was soo weak I had to go back to umbral blades. I guess because my passives are also set towards throwing damage. Current planner: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakXEEvx

How do I make this transition? Do I have to wait for a few more levels or some more gear? I bought a T7 bow physical damage bow and have a 1LP uethrin's stand that I wanted to slam, but Julra killed me lol. I also have a +15 dexterity ring ready to slam into the 1lp phantom grip, but again, julra... 😄

neon compassBOT
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Falconer, Level 75

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (26) / Falconer (35)

General:

▸ Health: 1,523, Regen: 42.75/s
▸ Mana: 120.87, Regen: 10.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 11/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 16 Dex / 4 Int / 0 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 88% / 70% / 106% / 70% / 51% / 26%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 305
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (354)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 7% (105)
▸ Block Chance: 5%, Mitigation: 8% (32)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 33%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Aerial Assault / Falconry / Smoke Bomb / Dive Bomb

red mortar
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Hello. Anything which affect wolves will also affect squirrels (buff of wolves from other skills for example) ?

storm blaze
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Yes

red mortar
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ty

quiet vessel
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hey guys

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lemme ask u a question quickly

toxic echo
desert tree
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Where is the question?

runic grail
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it was not a quick one

dusty crypt
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How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

desert tree
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Still waiting

crystal jackal
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maybe I can ask you a question instead

storm blaze
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You can certainly try

tiny helm
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do the triggers to get dammned and ignite overload have to be direct casts of nectrotic and fire spells repsectivly? or can they be triggered?

desert tree
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I don't know

dusky kite
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so I haven't been following, what are the major features of the next patch except the breach in 144p they showed in the trailer?

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that looks more than a little thin for 8 months of work

storm blaze
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There's corruption available for items, echo chains, new rogue skills

dusky kite
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so they are doubling down on being showered with garbage with corruption? Any announced changes for COF or item targeting?

storm blaze
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oh right there's also different layouts for idols you can get

blazing glacier
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haven't seen any imprint changes, assuming thats what you mean

dusky kite
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imprint or prophecies changes, I see

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ngl this doesn't sound promising so far

blazing glacier
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Corruption should provide some itemization changes, plus the new attribute thing maybe 🤷‍♂️ If you like coming up with new stuff and theory crafting it could be interesting, but the minmax process yea idk

vale thistle
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I think the item corruption coming in s4 is kinda nice tbh, I like what it does both for early and late item progression

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more concerned about endgame systems tbh (not so much itemization), I hope the omen window and echo chain stuff is actually interesting, because endless woven echoes isn't exactly my idea of a good time endgame

storm blaze
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Yeaa i'm not really fan of running endless woven echoes either

dusky kite
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Especially given the limitations they already announced i.e. not being able to corrupt unique affixes in any meaningful way

blazing glacier
faint cape
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Corruption is probably going to be my next target after 1LP uniques, 1LP + some corruption

dusky kite
faint cape
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Seems way more fun than going after 2LPs except for maybe some really low LPL stuff

blazing glacier
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or uniques that only have 1 high value affix choice

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for me anyway

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thats out of reach for many

vale thistle
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item corruption is exceptionally useful even for casual players that never go past 1LP, it makes all the extra 1LP items you get potential upgrades

blazing glacier
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yep effort from 1LP to 2LP is big with the guaranteed

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corr goes a long way to bridge the gap

dusky kite
vale thistle
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there's still quite a lot of info related to s4 that isn't revealed yet

faint cape
vale thistle
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and if you're slamming 1LP items it's not exactly hard to get exalts for them

faint cape
storm blaze
vale thistle
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it's 2LP and above where getting exalts takes some degree of effort, since you care about more than the one guaranteed affix slam

proper geode
fallen parcel
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I think this corruption system will be quite whatever unless you get lucky cause 2 lp slams aint a guarantee and after slamming same unique for 10 times getting finally a hit i aint gonna risk it going again to where I started after a fail corruption

toxic echo
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yeah. but you also dont have to only corrupt 2lp items

desert tree
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I can see myself corrupt that 1lp pair of boots I will have in 10 copies

fallen parcel
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If slamming is improved and it should like 2lp would be guarantee slamming at least would make corruption less painful and more exciting to try out

desert tree
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And see what I get

toxic echo
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farm the 1lps and corrupt them. like sure you have to 'get lucky' but you can say that about any LE crafting

fallen parcel
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I dont think corruption gonna beat my 2lp rare boots or 3 lp any day of the week that I had slammed after so much grind

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Bear In mind I have 4t7 items and still its really bad the slamming system we have

toxic echo
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entirely depends on the affixes

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we dont know a lot of the affixes i bet. really only seen ammy ones

fallen parcel
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Yeah and some seem rather weak again better to wait 1 month for patch notes

toxic echo
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true

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the att switching affixes on ammy might be worth the gamble

fallen parcel
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Just saying farming unstable core example is a pain and will never corrupt a 2 lp if slamming we have its still this bad

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Vitality being haste is weird but maybe zooming vk will be great

vale thistle
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tbh I don't really get why slamming even needs to be RNG, like at all

toxic echo
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for sure. i definately think there is a line where some people arent going to gamble their 2lp uniques/leggos. everyone has a different risk/reward line

vale thistle
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I think they should just get rid of it and make all of the slammed affixes guaranteed just like the first, and rely on corruption for the RNG aspect

toxic echo
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but again not every corrupt needs to be on a 2lp 1/1000 item

fallen parcel
toxic echo
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its at least a better argument than before

fallen parcel
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Like I get my 2 lp t7 naals after idk 8 tries I corrupt it goes bad well good luck farming a Crapton again for the unique and exalts to go at it again

blazing glacier
vale thistle
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I feel like the process already involves enough RNG just getting a good item with LP and getting an exalt with the affixes you want, plus optional corruption RNG

fallen parcel
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The difference between a 1 lp item vs a 2 lp is pretty huge most times sure stats may not be that impacting sometimes but having 24 int and 70 something crit multi is quite big for a build like I get the just get 1 lp items and corrupt and be cool with it but for me that falls flat

toxic echo
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but you can take that 1lp and essentially make it a 2lp without farming that 2lp. if corrupting is adding affixes even if its not perfect its still a better outcome than before(assuming its not ruined which i hope is a small % chance)

fallen parcel
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A buddy of mine went through 3 tabs of mage 3t7 ,2t7 to get a 2 lp fractured crow that he managed to slam ,it isn't perfect but its good enough,like rng needs to be fixed badly in this game

blazing glacier
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The example I keep seeing is that "Well I have like 30 of the 1LPs, what should I do with them, corrupting is perfect" but if you managed to get 30 1LPs you should have a few 2LPs

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and if you have that many 1LPs, clearly 2LP is achievable

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you should be using turtle

toxic echo
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and if you have a few 2lp's and you hit the slam, then why not gamble on those other 2lps?

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and make it a 3lp

fallen parcel
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Yeah problem is the gearing should be always like of i can get realistically a 2 lp item i am gonna slam said item then I am gonna corrupt it like in poe 2 but in this game slamming can screwed you so hard many times I had a bank and literally all my 2 lp cores went garbo

blazing glacier
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Okay you hit your 2LP, are you going to farm 2T7 imprints for a slot you already hit? Or are you going to work on the next 2LP

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the effort reward for 2LP + corrupt will be way worse than getting your next 2LP finished

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the bottleneck will be imprints

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so there is never really an abundance of leftovers

toxic echo
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i would argue that at that point you can just be working towards 3lps. but the game doesnt really need you to have 3lp anything. lol

fallen parcel
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Like people should have to do horrendous amount of imprint troves to get a build done just saying

toxic echo
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which is a different problem

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and i still think that not everything has to be done to 2lp items. tho i know thats generally the 'end goal' of gearing

blazing glacier
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Lets say you have 1 2T7 piece, and the rest of your items are 1T7, what is your next priority?

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for the effort to get 2T7 + corr you could probably get several 2T7s done

toxic echo
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maybe. entirely depends on what that brick rate is on corrupting

fallen parcel
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If slamming its guarantee like 99% of our problems would be fixed

blazing glacier
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Same with 1T7, say you have 1 finished, and the rest 0LP, you go for corruption 1T7? For the same effort you will finish your 1T7s

fallen parcel
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Sadly players cant have this so its all rng rng and rng

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I am just saying if this game keeps being this bad with deterministic crafting people like me will be done with it

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I had 600 havoc and now 300 after gearing up like 2 toons mages like where my havoc prophecy devs

blazing glacier
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I think you should be able to buy slam guarantees, and it should be very expensive for high LPL / super rare items, would need to be a new system. Just guaranteeing everything would be kinda lame tbh

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maybe if you made uniques much rarer, or LP harder to get

toxic echo
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would be a good way to get rid of all those extra runes

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would have to be 'expensive' but i could see it

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maybe a t5 julra/uber julra

fallen parcel
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I think devs need like a guy like mr Llama from d2 guy went there gave his feedback with some others and d2 got some needed qol that helps a ton it still needs more but need stuff like that

toxic echo
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or have its difficulty scale off rarity or total lp or somethin

blazing glacier
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I said it before, but I think you should be able to destroy uniques and get some amount of "Julra Juice" based on LPL level, LP, and rarity in a formula

toxic echo
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thats kinda of interesting

fallen parcel
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Idk about having to kill uber julra or a token just make it happen slams fails its worst thing in this game

toxic echo
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could make a whole mechanic about it...increase your juice holding capabilities

blazing glacier
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Right now if I drop a giga crazy thing as COF that I will never use it just collects dust. Some form or recycling would be nice. Also gives worthless off meta MG uniques some inherent value

fallen parcel
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I have 3 lp items that I honestly never want to slam like a twisted hearth cause when it fails I am gonna rage quit 🥲

blazing glacier
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and COF players get the dopamine for dropping a giga rare unique for a different build

toxic echo
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im def not opposed to something like that tbh

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obv details matter but the outline seems good enough

fallen parcel
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I couldn't gear up rogue like I wanted cause all the 2 lp astral I have where failure slams like aint asking for too much

toxic echo
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i think doing that shortens the game entirely too much

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i understand your frustration, but not everything has to be free and 100%

fallen parcel
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People already come and complain about it its not free its make it so you can guarantee slams

toxic echo
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just cuz people complain doesnt mean its the right answer

fallen parcel
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Deterministic crafting is slamming too although this game has none so far

fallen parcel
toxic echo
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yeah thats a big disagree

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its not perfect for sure but its not as bad as you make it out to be. in my opinion

fallen parcel
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Well i play enough and so other cof maybe mg players also can jump in there

blazing glacier
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Chris Wilson said it pretty well, people complaining about something tells you there is a problem, you should listen to that, but their solutions aren't necessarily the right ones

fallen parcel
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Last epoch crafting was cool in 1.0 now 2 years later is big meh

toxic echo
toxic echo
blazing glacier
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I don't think the crafting is that bad in LE, we just don't really properly interact with it much because of imprint meta being the way it is

fallen parcel
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Ain't best in arpgs ,poe 2 in abyss league had a better one cause it was deterministic

toxic echo
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yeah imprints need their legs taken out

kindred narwhal
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WW crafting Gregory

fallen parcel
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Like what you gonna tell me weaver items are great crafting like I can go over 300 scissor and I still would not get 2 affixes I needd

toxic echo
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bruh remember pre 1.0 when you could fracture at any time?

blazing glacier
toxic echo
fallen parcel
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Bruh we are in 1.3

toxic echo
fallen parcel
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Idc what was 2 years ago in beta

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We are 2 years after launch

toxic echo
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but you do cuz you just compared 1.0 to today?

desert tree
# toxic echo yeah thats a big disagree

I think it comes down to a difference in how people play and what their goals are.
You and me play "for fun", mostly solo COF
Jellal plays legacy 4man spam troves with 4t7s imprint
We dont really play the same game imo

fallen parcel
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Why takes like 1 year to add havoc prophecy

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Not sure we aint even getting that btw

toxic echo
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oh no, a an item you actually have to farm for

blazing glacier
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They intentionally didn't add havoc proph most likely, considering they did add other prophs in 1.2

toxic echo
kindred narwhal
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I think guaranteed slams are great, for strong builds it wouldn't matter but there's a lot of meme or weaker builds that needs affixes or slams to even get started

fallen parcel
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No no 4t7 cof troves players trying to help each other to overcome the crap rng we have to submit ourselves in every step

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I am sorry for trying to improve my odds and others of sucess

desert tree
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This is not a critic of how you play at all

blazing glacier
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Crap RNG will always arrive somewhere when you deal with an "infinite" system like LPL

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there is always a level of RNG not intended to be reached

fallen parcel
desert tree
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Its just a comparison
And because we dont play with the same goals and methods we dont have the same issues

fallen parcel
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Just man I really need big improvement qol to our playstyles like make our lives a bit easier i hate having collection items cause slamming rng

toxic echo
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like no one enjoys missing a 2lp slam. but its kinda part of the game and without it the game gets really small and its already kinda too small (just needs time)

fallen parcel
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Yeah but issues exist thats all we point out I hope people like idk frozen and dread get taken seriously cause ehg needs to fix their stuff to thrive

blazing glacier
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Every time they add a new form of determinism, unless that determinism is absolute and final (removes all RNG) it will always just move the goalpost of expectations one step further

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I think for that specific issue the problem is setting expectations based on outcome, rather than the experience along the way to the outcome

fallen parcel
native sail
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Idk if you haven't paid attention or anything but the reason Dread has been having issues with the game is because 1) it's practically barren for content and 2) half the shit in the game he cares about is bugged or hopelessly underwhelming

fallen parcel
native sail
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Giving us higher/more deterministic gearing (which is frankly unnecessary) doesn't address that. Call that out. Don't call out what's pointless

toxic echo
fallen parcel
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Yeah thats a bad take but can you do

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Hope stuff turns around

toxic echo
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what are you doing with 11 perfect slam RR's anyways? beside have them collect dust when you are bored of playing

near path
vale thistle
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tbh I agree with jellal here, I think once you actually get a high LP unique to drop it should have a reliable outcome; it feels bad to have the RNG jackpot scenario backloaded to slamming exalted affixes on

native sail
fallen parcel
vale thistle
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the hype moment should be when the item drops, not when you finally stop bricking it with bad slams

near path
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surely

vale thistle
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if that means high LP uniques need to be more rare, fine

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change the drop rates

blazing glacier
toxic echo
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that needs to happen anyways imo,

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regardless of slamming outcomes

vale thistle
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drops in LE feel like ass because there's so many steps where you can brick the item after it drops, before it's even usable

fallen parcel
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Idk why its so hard to understand this

vale thistle
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idk how to communicate the importance of this to the devs tbh, they have to be aware of it after playing their own game

toxic echo
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i think part of this is just how the crafting systems are different. like in poe its infinite on one piece of gear. LE needs to have lots of drops cuz its not infinite.

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so the drops naturally matter less

fallen parcel
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Feedback channel idk dont trust that enought anyway in dev channel always get asked to go there

toxic echo
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like poe you arent farming gear, you are just farming currency

blazing glacier
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If you had some path where you could force guaranteed drop, even if it was expensive, like I said, it would still have some weight of achieving the item, but also still give you the dopamine on the drop because you know there is a guaranteed path to the outcome, even if the cost has some variance

vale thistle
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omen of perfection: your next slam will allow you to guarantee X affixes instead of just 1

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very rare drop

toxic echo
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why x? is that rng?

vale thistle
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I guess yeah

blazing glacier
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X is kinda bad because it does not factor in LPL

toxic echo
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so you want to replace rng with more rng

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thats...a choice

blazing glacier
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any system that solves this problem needs to consider LPL, unlike the current 1 affix guarantee which does not

vale thistle
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it's RNG that happens on drop, instead of an indeterminate amount of time later

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which is better

toxic echo
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you are just moving the rng around. not getting rid of it ike you want

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so rng clearly isnt the issue

blazing glacier
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1 affix guarantee is basically useless on an item like Kestral, but obviously really strong on an item like Red Ring

vale thistle
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I never said I wanted to get rid of RNG, the problem is psychologically speaking, delayed gratification sucks, and it's totally unnecessary here

toxic echo
vale thistle
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dopamine hits when good stuff drops is proven to work in ARPGs

fallen parcel
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A lot of the time devs ego says well we cant make the change or do this because of this and that, they can fix this stuff if they want

toxic echo
blazing glacier
toxic echo
vale thistle
toxic echo
vale thistle
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sure, but you know when it drops that the item is a win

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you don't know that currently, meaning you don't get excited about it

toxic echo
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and all you ahve done is push your displeasure from the item to your omen

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and then you are upset that the omen isnt perfect

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you havent solved anything, just pushed the issue around

vale thistle
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no I haven't, because I know my lottery ticket is a win, it's just a matter of time to get the omen or whatever

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currently all of my lottery tickets are duds

blazing glacier
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yea, I think it's fine if you know there are some steps to take to finish the process

toxic echo
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none of them are duds on drop

blazing glacier
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the point is that you got the precusor towards the outcome

toxic echo
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and all you have now are dud omens

vale thistle
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I don't think you're getting the issue here

fallen parcel
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Like if I have the exalt and the unique with lp why cant i drop something to slam that guarantee makes sense for players and engagement

toxic echo
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no i get your issue i just think you are wrong

blazing glacier
toxic echo
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and your solution doesnt actually fix your dopamine problem

fallen parcel
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I honestly dont want to gear or try more builds cause of slamming not exalts or uniques its the slam fails

toxic echo
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assuming you want both prefixes like on most mage gear

vale thistle
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if I get a 2LP red ring currently, the vast majority of the time it's functionally identical to a 1LP red ring for me, because I rarely succeed on my 2LP slams; it's disappointing and the "dopamine hit" isn't there psychologically, because of how slamming works in LE
if 2LP red rings were 10x more rare, but some mechanic existed to allow guaranteeing the first 2 affixes on my 2LP red ring slam, then I would in fact feel excited when said 2LP red ring drops, because even if I don't have the omen or whatever yet I know I will be able to get one eventually

blazing glacier
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Another take, but IF you had some alternative to farm once you've dropped the unique, to guarantee the slam happening, that would give you an alternative to break up the imprint spam monotony. Right now if you miss your 2LP + 2T7 slam you go back to imprint farm. With something like this you get your 2LP + 2T7 then maybe you go farm some other mechanic to get your omen. OR you could just take your chances and yolo it, and do more imprint spam if you fail

vale thistle
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like you can tell me it's the same psychologically, but you're just wrong; you can't dictate how another person feels about a given item drop lol

toxic echo
fallen parcel
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One of the reason weaver items are so hard and bad to try get really good ones if that even if it drops with enough weaver chance and perfect mods it gives you suffix when all you needed was prefix

toxic echo
vale thistle
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no, I could potentially have hundreds of 2LP red rings drop and never succeed, because it's always RNG

toxic echo
vale thistle
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that's the entire reason why the dopamine hit isn't there

toxic echo
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sonofa...got kicked for inactivity. lol

vale thistle
blazing glacier
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Yea I agree that the 2LP RR drop should feel amazing but currently it doesn't. I also don't want to be given the 2LP slam for free either, because I think that would devalue the achievement too much. Some semi deterministic path between X and Y hours of grinding to guarantee that 2LP RR turns into a 2T7 RR would be nice. Even if it takes an extra 20 hours of grind to force that outcome, the agency to do that would be a win

toxic echo
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it doesnt cease to exist now either tho

vale thistle
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if you're trying to get 2 specific affixes and fail to do so? it kinda does

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anyway, this argument is pointless

toxic echo
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it exists just as much as an unslammed 2lp that you are farming for an omen

vale thistle
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it's like me saying "I don't like vanilla icecream" and then you're trying to tell me why vanilla icecream and chocolate are actually the same

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like none of that matters, it's feedback based on personal opinion

toxic echo
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like if they added your omen system the 1lp guarantee would have to go away

blazing glacier
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This isn't Schrödinger's Red Ring we are talking about here xd

vale thistle
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I think it sucks, because my experience with it is negative 😂

fallen parcel
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So far all I hear its we want you to grind for hundreds of hours with your 2 lp red ring fail slam and ve happy and about it and grind again hundred and hundred of hours if you want that and for some classes like mages thats pretty good if achievable

kindred narwhal
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Idk if its just me but if I were to get a 2LP RR it would be too good so I wouldn't even use it, just save it in my stash 😅

toxic echo
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if thats all you hear i am sorry you have missed half the conversation

kindred narwhal
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I just tuned in, so yes

fallen parcel
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No really none of the solutions you are given you dismiss

toxic echo
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nah i actually said i liked frozens multiple times

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must be tht half you missed

fallen parcel
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So lothric ones are bad seems fair too

blazing glacier
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What if hypothetically, you could sacrifice 3 of a given unique (like gauntlet of strife) of equal or greater LP, to guarantee the slam on the 4th? Like Sacrifice 3x 2LP Unstable Cores to Guarantee a Slam

fallen parcel
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Idk which ones just straight up stuff needs to change

toxic echo
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did you say we should listen to frozen more? lol

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now i am getting crap cuz i listened and liked it?

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what

blazing glacier
fallen parcel
kindred narwhal
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There is only 1 class now, that's mage. Frozen have spoken!

blazing glacier
toxic echo
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assuming the current yolo stays

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and 1lp 100% left

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i'd be more ok with it

blazing glacier
toxic echo
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but i'd still like it with a uber julra

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or somethin

fallen parcel
toxic echo
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you forgot the dead mage?

blazing glacier
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intentional

toxic echo
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lol

kindred narwhal
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It's o7

toxic echo
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this was a fun conversation tho

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its always fun when the new seasons come along and people get more interactive

kindred narwhal
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Having the discord more active is always nice

toxic echo
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and we got thru an entire convo without me having to put on my mod hat

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which is quite the accomplishment

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on the internet

kindred narwhal
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And you got disconnected due to inactivity MikeBee

toxic echo
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yeah i was doing so good too walking back and forth in EoT. lol

kindred narwhal
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Hahaha

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Good effort

icy drift
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@static light why do you think you're paying almost 20 bucks more for the supporter pack? 65.14 euro is 275 zloty which is what it's currently set to from what I can see

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(the steam db converted prices are not accurate since they're often outdated)

static light
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Around 77-78

icy drift
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What are bucks

static light
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Dollars

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USD

icy drift
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Yeah 77

static light
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Exactly

icy drift
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That just means the us pays less though

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For whatever reason

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Ah actually you might be right I think their base price is in USD not euro

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I just default to it

static light
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Yeah exactly

blazing glacier
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US privilege, sad

static light
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77 usd per 60 usd pack

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Not really US privilege

icy drift
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I guess the entirety of Europe is getting wrecked lul

static light
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But underprivilege of Europe, yeah

icy drift
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But yeah Swiss and Poland especially

fallen parcel
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Let the us have a win

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They need it

vale thistle
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it's like $56 USD in canada santa_gregory

icy drift
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Canada is popping off yea

static light
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Regional pricing for Poland is 4.5PLN/USD and the fkin community market prices for usd are 3.6

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25% loss on each purchase

blazing glacier
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canada is struggle town, we need regional pricing 😥

static light
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Steam shitheads, sorry for the vent but yeah

icy drift
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Lol South Asia pricing is also in USD so it's just 20 American dollars there

static light
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20?

icy drift
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Yep

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-66%

static light
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Yo gift me a pack, I will get you 30 dollars in skins lul

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Cinema

icy drift
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I live in sweden, im getting scammed too lul

vale thistle
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you can't gift cross-region unless the pricing difference is less than 5% or so

kindred narwhal
static light
icy drift
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Me living in sweden or getting scammed lol (scam part is a joke obviously)

static light
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So yeah I can only rely on EHG to step in on that matter

kindred narwhal
icy drift
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For some reason Norway get their crowns as a currency but we have to exchange to euro smh

vale thistle
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also south asia pricing on steam wasn't always reasonable; they used to charge exactly the same amount as USA

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despite wages there being insanely low

kindred narwhal
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It's nice seeing a fellow swede play this game, a rare sight!

static light
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It's true, Polish gang is still around on season lol

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Swedish people on the other hand... I don't see those frequently

icy drift
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Don't xd

static light
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LOL

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I couldn't help myself man you need to understand me

icy drift
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That's why you're not timed out :P

kindred narwhal
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Cinema

static light
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Flood of bobrs and k-words is overwhelming when I mention where I'm from

kindred narwhal
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Probably the most common one yeah

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I usually see either what you said or meatballs

static light
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Lol ikr

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I'm yet to vent on global chat in Polish once I fail something, only did it once so far so i feel quite proud of myself for holding on so well

kindred narwhal
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Gotta vent somewhere lol

static light
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Well exactly, like failing 5 pairs of 2lp gloves in a row, no thank you lol had to vent after that

static light
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He's an interesting one for sure yeah

kindred narwhal
static light
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Ohhh

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You meant that hahaha oh right yeah

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In fact my wife sitting next to me thought about the H-word and I thought about the F-word so yeah, that's two swear words, didn't really even consider saying meatballs

kindred narwhal
static light
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But yeah that would probably be our like 3rd or 4th word we would say

kindred narwhal
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Yeah makes sense, there's just a handful you could say!

static light
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Exactly, on the other hand you have hell of a meat choice in Sweden, ate reindeer meat in Stockholm, good shit can't deny that

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It was worth for Rudolf to die for those burgers

kindred narwhal
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Oh yeah for sure, plenty of more uncommon meat you can get your hands on the further north you are. Very good for tourist traps in Stockholm though

static light
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We check the ratings before entering any restaurant that's outside our town let alone country lol

kindred narwhal
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o7 Rudolf omegalul

static light
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Too much of this shit happening in Rome

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Ice bar was a big tourist trap tho lol we enjoyed it a lot, especially I did since I really enjoy low temperatures but yeah other than that it was a pain for the wallet

kindred narwhal
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Oh yeah! I'm sure it could be very exotic if you haven't really seen snow or something, I yearn for warmth so it would be the last place I'd try out lol

static light
kindred narwhal
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Crank up the heating to the max please 🥶

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My cold res is negative, wearing mourning frost irl omegalul

static light
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Like literally a week or two ago when there was that heaviest winter in Poland and temps fell below -20 C i was sitting in my apartment shirtless cuz it was still too hot for me even though it was like 17 degrees inside or god knows how many

kindred narwhal
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Got a heated blanket, it's goated. Can be -30 outside it's still warm and cozy 🔥

blazing glacier
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no tks xd

static light
blazing glacier
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cheaper to warm yourself than your whole home though xd

static light
kindred narwhal
blazing glacier
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tbh we didn't get any snow on west coast this year, was nice

static light
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We got too much of that white garbage here

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It's gonna take a week for it to melt down

kindred narwhal
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I had to move so I wouldn't have to dig out my car with a snowblower every morning and it's still too much snow, can't escape the cold either tom

static light
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Well cold is nice for killing mosquitoes but other than that I don't really find much use for it

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Just an increased likelihood to slide and trip on ice, noice

kindred narwhal
static light
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I'm not even gonna consider throwing a snowball at my wife lol

static light
kindred narwhal
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There's like a meme of a old man in an interview, -45 and he's saying it's not bothering him that much but "it's at least no mosquitos"

kindred narwhal
static light
kindred narwhal
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Technically he's not wrong no xD

static light
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I'm getting to like that boomer humor more and more

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Its hands are beginning to grasp me and drag even deeper into the boomer humor hole

kindred narwhal
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I fear that one day you'll turn.

static light
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Few more months and I'll start asking if an item is free if there's no price tag on the shelf

kindred narwhal
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It's like a zombie virus

static light
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We'll all get there, it's inevitable

steady drift
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Which faction should I be going into? is CoF the better one because of the more items?

acoustic thicket
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Will I still get access to the new corruption mechanic on legacy or will I need to play season?

faint cape
storm blaze
acoustic thicket
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Okay cool good to know. Not a huge fan of seasonal loops lol I like to play one character forever in my arpgs

undone otter
acoustic thicket
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The omen windows will be on legacy as well?

undone otter
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yup

acoustic thicket
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Amazing

slow eagle
static light
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I have quite a lot of listings of very good items and still score like 3-8 sales a day only

undone otter
slow eagle
undone otter
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I have no knowledge of what plans are beyond 1.4, and I couldn't share them even if I did haha sorry

storm blaze
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Good thing is that I have knowledge of the plans
Which I totally am not making up
1.5 will include ||more monsters||

slow eagle
storm blaze
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I know
Truly a surprising turn of events

static light
undone otter
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Lol

static light
fallen parcel
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Canada winter so far hasn't being to bad like year before

blazing glacier
fallen parcel
graceful cliff
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Current troves setup as asked for 😊

undone otter
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<backs away slowly>

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Lol

blazing glacier
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welcome to current end game minmax meta

static light
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Oh I'm doing them in the same way now Thal 😄

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And you know what's best? If they nerf it without giving us like 2 or 3 good alternative options people aren't going to play because there will be no way of upgrading gear

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We simply need troves to get the triple exalts which weren't available back in the day, if you had double t7 that was the peak, honestly thanks to troves many of people who are playing now are still hooked on

blazing glacier
static light
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Because sorry but no way I'm doing regular maps if there's no incentive to do them unlike woven echoes which we actually get punished for doing because rift portals don't spawn there

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Or even better, running on multiple thousands of corruption and dropping single t6-t7s all the time from fully juiced champions, that's pure insanity at this point

fallen parcel
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Yep thats exactly right but hey apparently we are playing a different game cause we want to upgrade our crafting time and make it less tedious

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That's done alternating party troves its the way

static light
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Yep, I'm fine running another content as long as it's WORTH doing

static light
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Or killing it just for the loot filter to show only shards because they are always visible

fallen parcel
static light
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Bloodline glade is extreme garbo

blazing glacier
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Getting the T7 champ is even harder lmao

fallen parcel
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I started party play likr a month ago and its a lifesaver ngl it made me enjoy the game more and keeps me engaged maybe same for you guys at mg

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Yeah I got maybe 2 belt t7 chain but its affixes are crap omegalul

static light
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Ofc it does, without troves I would have abandoned this game 3 or 4 months ago

fallen parcel
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That's why we have a group and if anyone wants to play like that is welcomed and we all help each other and that stuff

static light
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Just like we do on season 😄

fallen parcel
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Yeah played solo for almost 2 years so dumb from me

static light
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Thalandala is a zoomy zoomy boi but we're all very open and supportive

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Usually if you take too long in troves you have a shit loot filter, troves actually show many flaws your build or, as above, loot filter has

fallen parcel
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Makes almost every part you would find annoying or too much grind fun ,like troves for me its boring but in party its more fun at least dont mind doing them at all,same with uber grind ,even some barnacle 🤣

static light
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Oh no no, you crossed the line of a good taste, barnacles are for... idk who

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Masochists

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😅

fallen parcel
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Yeah mine isn't super minmaxed but never last person ,some people take forever haha

static light
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Yeah but you see, we also had those people and if they show they want to learn they will become better and better

fallen parcel
static light
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It just comes automatically

static light
graceful cliff
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Well I think you are almost hitting on what I find to be the best part.

fallen parcel
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Yeah i remember I wasted like 200 troves with no folly first time around got told to fix that😅

static light
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Lol no no, that's no good lol

fallen parcel
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Now its ok but mine aren't as pretty as thalandala set up almost good enough😅

graceful cliff
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Its not really about the map or the rewards. People that play the way we do will always do what is the best for the best results. It will just shift based on what that is at whatever time.

What I enjoy so much are the like minded people and how easy this game is to play with them (despite basically all social features being broken). You are not punished for going through the extra effort of coordinating and working together.

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This game has somehow been able to creat a "wow like" community inside of its game full of late game grinders that even though from different parts of the world all have one thing in common.

fallen parcel
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We got a ton of gear progression at least all helmet and body 4t7 working on some other stuff like rings and amulets and oh boy getting fp up

static light
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Only one thing matters on troves: clockwise outer ring and inside after omegalul omegalul omegalul

graceful cliff
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TO ME that is the absolute best part of LE. The community. Give us things to do and we can keep it AND enjoy the game while doing so. Opinions be opinions though.

static light
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Yeah fact is community before troves was much more scattered

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Troves actually unified us lol

fallen parcel
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Well whatever we are from you got a Cuban fan here for all the time this game will exist

fallen parcel
static light
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Cuba ftw, that's literally my name but with K instead of C btw lol

static light
fallen parcel
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What corr do you guys set up we can do 2k comfortably but golem map are a pain ,1.2k its perfect

static light
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1.5 is my go-to C on my falconer

fallen parcel
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Oh cool

static light
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Thal runs on 1k, most of the people run on 1k

graceful cliff
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Well soon enough this toon with be on legacy. 🙂

fallen parcel
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That seems good

static light
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There are few outliers on 1.5k and like one person on 1200 or 1300

graceful cliff
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Thing is Jell I farmed like 20m bones this season so I just host constantly.

static light
graceful cliff
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And I like being as fast as possible for 1k.

fallen parcel
graceful cliff
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Which means bc I host most of the troves I just keep it at 1k for all solo content as well.

fallen parcel
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Even then the gear lp is pain for me cause they slams fall through with rift beast gear

static light
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Yeah first rule - when Thal's on his troves are on xD

graceful cliff
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Again though I want my fully buffed seps and ccenos to be just as easy to speed clear as a trove. The way I built my LB 1k is def the most comfy. PLUS heavy diminishing returns and blah blah.

static light
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Too many items you would need to self-farm, I can farm a few daggers for myself but no way I'm spending all my stock on those

fallen parcel
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Haha yeah I mostly on on weekends or like this time cause of work but always open for troves right now we are gearing mages autobombers and such its really cool cause troves help get gear to try new builds and then people share their stuff so you aint alone on it

static light
graceful cliff
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Problem with legacy is without a bigger player base the market is dead there as well.

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I have checked here and there all league and there is way more available even though still terrible on season than legacy.

static light
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Yeah market really needs some love but what can you do if it's driven by players and if the season is shit people won't play for long

graceful cliff
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Yeah it needs more groups like Jell and them poda.

fallen parcel
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Yeah more players more sharing less painful its to see depart idk a 3 lp rare item when somebody needs it

static light
graceful cliff
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Enough of those groups and you have a perfectly fine legacy. But plenty of the stuff we have created dont exist on legacy for obvious reasons.

fallen parcel
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Never played MG,you guys have legacy mg like us legacy cof?

static light
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Don't mention the boots Thal

graceful cliff
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After this season legacy will have triple the gear it did

static light
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Legacy MG yes Jella

graceful cliff
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Yeah jell all our stuff falls to legacy

static light
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But with broken economy because of loads of money that came through gold dupes xd

graceful cliff
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Yeah economy is strange

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but wont matter much poda

fallen parcel
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Can cof and MG players do troves together ?

static light
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Kinda true since we will also have huge items that will break the market lok

static light
graceful cliff
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yeah

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We have more on season that in legacy

fallen parcel
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Ok thats cool then

static light
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We even share items between each other sometimes

graceful cliff
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We would set the prices if we were playing

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or just gift

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There is no limits to cof and mg besides using opposite gear

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same with "cannot be traded" doesnt matter for gifting

fallen parcel
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Yeah i have seen the infamous slam gifts

static light
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Without those the market would be even more dead

fallen parcel
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I really hope they cut the times it takes to drop obsidian though its likr 5-6 hours for just 1 to drop a bit much when you have a new group buddy or someone who wants to join

static light
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Oh if you have a zoomy group 3 hours are enough sometimes

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We lately got 2 obsidians in like 4 hours with Ryu

graceful cliff
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Honestly I think its in a decent spot. Most people that get flooded with gear quickly dont stick around long.

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That is striclty personally based though.

fallen parcel
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I gotten unlucky like 10 golden before 1 obsidian

static light
graceful cliff
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Yeah its all about speed. I have gained 5 in like 2 days with 1 person going zoom zoom.

fallen parcel
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Yeah 2 in 4 hours is good

graceful cliff
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I just dont recommend that level of play often. 🙂

fallen parcel
static light
graceful cliff
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Yeah I hit 14 golden no obsidian twice in a row with same person once.

static light
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Oh so it was like that if I remember correctly

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And then we were on a dry streak for like 18 goldens?

graceful cliff
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The rng is insane insane. Also with loot sounds and such being so inconsistent its also possible some are missed.

static light
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Ryu noticed at one point we were like 33/2 or sth like that

graceful cliff
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I doubt it though I feel pretty good at not missing them.

static light
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I mean the obsidian ones for sure

fallen parcel
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Need to make like a sound for them

static light
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Yeah mandatory

graceful cliff
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Very easy to loot filter them

static light
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Or just place them into our inventories instantly if they proc

fallen parcel
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Now we are kinda stuck when everything is 3t7 now trying to get stuff to 4t7 or upgrade fp and trade

graceful cliff
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And the sound isnt nearly as important as the map icon.

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That is true for everything in LE though. The map icons are very very important.

static light
static light
fallen parcel
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I need to make less stuff to drop cause always played cof I tend to grab a lot of uniques or idols that I never done the build for

graceful cliff
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Great loot filter is key no doubt.

static light
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Oh yeah CoF is attracting heavy hoarders

fallen parcel
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Even 2t7 are kinda done when you are at max tabs

static light
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When I hear someone has tabs going for 700k per one tab and I look at my tabs and they are 220k I just don't know what's going on

fallen parcel
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Oh I have being max tabs for months I dont even want 2 t7 anymore unless rare gear like amulets or rings I have 110 million gold that I dont have a good place to dump on anyway

static light
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Unless CoF players get 2-3x 77-777 items or 2-3lps per map i dont know what they are picking up xd

graceful cliff
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Lol wish you were on season jell.

static light
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Yeah me too thal xD

graceful cliff
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I filtered out 2t7 of everything but neck like 1.5 months ago.

fallen parcel
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All my items are 2 3 4lp I need to kill more 2 lp and feed to turtle to condensate the tabs for more exalts 3t7😅

graceful cliff
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We are in similar boats we are just using more imprint procs bc we have been grinding for so long.

static light
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Yeah thal ran probably over 10k troves at this point, I'm like 8000 done too

graceful cliff
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Yup yup similar for us. Proc rates for 3lp+ are very low. A alot of it is the strife - turtle - neme loop. Which is good!! Just add to it and keep it going.

fallen parcel
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Yeah i started with like 3-4 3t7 items a month ago insane how much stuff changed

static light
graceful cliff
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Hahah nice

fallen parcel
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Haha reroll that

graceful cliff
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Wish could make that thing work. Would be so much easier.

copper spruce
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Does anybody else use the Shattered Lightning Strike MTX. It seems to disable in-between map transitions. Im unable to even unequip the mtx to try and re-equip. At this point, all i can do to fix it is to reset to lobby or restart the game.

static light
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I don't have any fodders lol

graceful cliff
static light
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Then as Thal says, pinned on general

fallen parcel
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Ah 3 tabs for rerolls and failed nemesis for imprints

copper spruce
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I see, sorry for any redundancy. Thanks a ton

static light
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No problem, that's the ask the community channel after all

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We're here to help 😅

graceful cliff
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Dont let him fool you the Treasurer is always here for GOLD!

static light
static light
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Gold drainer

graceful cliff
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Sounds like a fancy shower.

static light
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Man I really would like to see how much gold I burned throughout this season

fallen parcel
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Maybe there is a stat for that

static light
graceful cliff
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I wanna know how many rift evos and how many legends bought!!!!

static light
fallen parcel
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Ask muffin man

static light
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Especially considering the fact that half of the server united to get you those 3lps for you to brick hahaahah

graceful cliff
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Hey hey hey now 3 people that didnt want traded me one thing all season!! 😉

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As if I am not thankful!!! Sir!!!

fallen parcel
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I didn't see that in item showcase

graceful cliff
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oh lol good point I always forget that thing

static light
graceful cliff
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Fine! lol

static light
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Yeaaaah I can use my favourite reaction XD