❔┃ask-the-community

[icy drift]

Note that stats from your skill trees apply to ailments, so the number shown on the sheet while not wrong (that's how much damage it would do if you applied it with basic attack) doesn't necessarily reflect how much damage you'll actually do

[teal ibex]

yeah, but you can sorta look at it as % increases with gear changes. should be a mostly linear scale up when you factor in skill bonuses

trying to decide because a couple weapons

[eternal stone]

Hey. Does it matter on what corruption level I run conquered tower and farsight turtle? Do I have better chances on higher corruptions? If yes, is there a max level in this regard? Like for example they dont improve after c1000?

[desert tree]

The empower mechanic from nemesis is not affected by corruption
The base item is the nemesis are, but I would not consider it worth going out of your way to increase the corruption for that

Regarding the turtle I dont know

[shy turret]

the chances of getting an egg is corruption based, i think at 600ish+ you are guaranteed one

the chances of lp from the egg isn't affected by corruption though

[desert tree]

Do you know for the turtle?

Can we got more than 1 egg?

[eternal stone]

I asked gemini (google AI), and it said it does matter (for both the nemesis and for the turtle), but I dont trust it, it says incorrect things from time to time

[storm blaze]

Yeah and it's not very good for game specific knowledge

[eternal stone]

it suggested me ring of mendeln as a good minionmancer ring and yeah its indeed a good one, I had that ring, in diablo4 🙃

[storm blaze]

Can't believe it would spoil that we are getting that ring to LE too

Smh

I was gonna say I don't think I've heard of that ring.. and then i finished reading what you said and thought that makes sense

[shy turret]

i did a mendeln uber lilith kill back in the day.

[shy turret]

cant get more than 1 egg, pretty sure turtle not affected by corruption

i have my crafting timeline at 200, has turtle, strife, oerden. then my tower timeline is at 2000

[eager folio]

I am tracking that far sight turtle I not effected by corruption at all, and in my experience that is true because I’ve slammed like 70 sword catchers into the turtle with 0 going up to 2lP but when I used prophecies at 1500 corruption I’ve had a few 2LP and one 3LP drop. But scientific testing or anything but that tracks with corruption not effecting turtle for me

[versed condor]

can I searcxh for MG compatible items in my stash? kinda wanna try mg

[desert tree]

Kinda

Anything with the cof tag isnt not

So searcg for that and look at the other items

[silver grail]

Good to doubt it - I once asked it about the functioning of a node on the weaver tree and it said something like "it has no function, because that node doesn't exist." 😂

[faint cape]

For turtle, corruption does not affect it in any way.
For nemesis, corruption affects all the non-uniques it has and it improves empowering for non-uniques, but has no effect for eggs. (Also scales nemesis spawn chance, but that doesn't matter in tower.)

[faint cape]

If you search !cof that should show all the items equippable for an MG character (if I'm remembering the code right). Finding tradeable items is a lil different.

[rustic kite]

is there a calculator for skills figuring out exact crit

[native sail]

Open your calculator app and type in the numbers xdd

[icy drift]

Yeah any "calculator" would need you to put in pretty much the exact same things you need to put into a normal calculator. So it's kind of redundant

Just add up all your flat and then multiply by 1+increased

[rustic kite]

how do we know if its flat

example

@icy drift go for the troat under flay, has +6% 3/3 -- are all +'s in skill trees flat now?

[white raptor]

hi any can help me for soulfire bastion quest pls?

[icy drift]

"additional" as well as "added" is the wording used for alt. It will also have a + Infront of the number, like "+3%". While for non flat stats it'll say either increased or more and won't have the +

Go for the throat is flat for example

[eternal stone]

Hey. I would appriciate some wisdom regarding Warlord's Reaches. I know the theory I read it many times. But I dont see its working like ever. I understand that its a small chance. My loot filter doesnt matter here as I always check the drop after the champs without filter. On the other hand I saw for example echoing reaches working multiple times. This is the item I imprinted into warlord's reaches. I have never seen any items with a sealed affix from this item. What am I missing? Is it because its experimental?

[storm wren]

what warlord's reaches is

[eternal stone]

this:

[rustic kite]

why doesn't any mana efficency effect this when you can drain your entire mana pool with 1 heart seeker arrow

[native sail]

Consume is not cost

[shy turret]

you aren't missing anything. warlords riches sucks, it's a 0.1/10 value while the other imprints are 11/10.

[eternal stone]

umm, what are these values?

[shy turret]

my ratings

[eternal stone]

ah lol, I thought these were some ingames values ^^

[shy turret]

just for dramatic effect

(but real)

[eternal stone]

undertood, thanks

[shut walrus]

I have to get 35 of the green one to upgrade an affix to t8. whats the best way to farm this?

[prime willow]

Can you put Primalist Gear into that open Egg slot you can find on Nemeses? I put my wand in there once, and it seemed to take it. I spawned the Nem and killed him, but then it just dropped my wand again, unaffected.

[icy drift]

Yes but you need to empower the nemesis for it to do anything to the item

If you just kill it then it'll drop the item as is

[prime willow]

Typically I always hit Empower, so I wonder if I accidentally hit Challenge instead. Hm

Most likely I suppose

[icy drift]

It will always modify the item on the first empower

So yeah that's almost certainly what happened

[prime willow]

I did consider that, but just wanted to make sure it wasn't just a "oh you can't do that to this type of gear" situation

thanks

[icy drift]

Yeah nah if it lets you put it in it'll work

It won't scam you like that lol

[prime willow]

Is there a max to how many Woven Echos you can place in a timeline after one Tomb? I've placed 3, but I don't do more than that at a time because I just...don't know what I'm doing lol

Like, why wouldn't you just place them all and go do them?

[icy drift]

You can place as many as will fit on the web

Which is more than you'll likely ever need to place

[prime willow]

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

[icy drift]

The echo webs are technically limited in size

They're just really big

Basically what I meant to say is there is no max practically speaking

You can put down a few hundred on a web if you don't explore it beforehand

[toxic echo]

generally speaking, you dont want to place every node with an echo, because when you reset the web via orobyss, you lose the echoes. once you get to a solid corruption tho, you could drop them all and just have an enormous web

and the webs themselves are limited, its like, idk like a 20x20 hexgrid or something. prolly bigger. but there is an edge

[prime willow]

Do the rewards from the Echos scale with corruption? I haven't done anything involving corruption, just not there yet, but working on it.

But I get it, as far as if you're trying to push, then you wouldn't necessarily just place all your Echos, you would want to finsh the Timeline, and placing and then trying to go to too many Echos would delay that.

[icy drift]

They do benefit from corruption the same as any item drop benefits from it

[prime willow]

Cool cool, thank you for all the helpful answers

[faint cape]

Just note that all crafting benches that are exclusive to woven echoes do not scale with corruption in any way. The idol enchanting tables that some have in them scale like normal, though.

[amber void]

how do i know when an damage type conversion change the effects that trigger under certain condition, like bone eruption, ruptured corpse, fissure, etc?

[icy drift]

It's case by case unfortunately so the only way to know if it doesn't just say is to test it

[fading stag]

what are the rules on trading w/ party member? We're both CoF, but 90% of what we want to trade (that dropped while right next to eachother) requires obsidian

[icy drift]

If it dropped while you were in the same instance it doesn't need a resonance

[faint cape]

Except for imprints. I believe they copy all gifting settings from the imprinted item, same as it does faction tags

[icy drift]

Yeah true prophecies are a different matter

[fading stag]

hm maybe it's imprints and prophecies not sure. we've tried red rings (that dropped, but likely the imprint), many higher LP items, and every single 2t7 is untradable and requires obsidian

but maybe it's just the imprint stuff. i'll keep an eye out for just fresh drops. ty for info

[blazing glacier]

Prophecies should always be giftable if they proc when your friend is in the zone with you, even if you earn the favor and buy the prophecy solo. Imprints are different yea.

[sand lark]

i ask the community for being happy.

[proud remnant]

Decent way to farm Serpins?

[storm blaze]

If you mean Sierpins that only drops from exiled mages

[desert tree]

Find a rune prison complex echo
Do it but dont use the machine in the middle
Portal out
The echo is not complete so you can do it again , and again, and again ....

With 25 mages per map, thats a lot of sierpin

[blazing glacier]

This gives reduced drop rate though on subsequent attempts iirc. Probably still decent if that's your priority.

Make sure to have the double mage woven tree node too. And probably champs while you are at it to actually get some xp and loot.

[eternal stone]

Hey. So both me and my friend quite often accidentally equip an item instead of putting the item to the stash/forge/egg/etc. If he item we were wearing had +skill affix, then the game semi-randomly removes those points from the skill. This is super annoying. And this happens quite often. Do you have any tips for this nonsense? I checked the keybinds and there is no possibility to rebind the equip. In my eyes this is such a horrible design failure. We are pressing shift now like crazy, and it still happens sometimes.

[shut walrus]

Is there anyway to kill Emerald Assassin Vu'ira at 5k+ corruption? I literally need to restart the echo when I see "Slay Emerald Assassin Vu'ira"

she could teach Uber Aberroth a few things in my opinion

[desert tree]

Oh really ??
Didnt know

[silver grail]

I'd love to be able to change that default behavior. Best I can do in the moment is share that over time I've learned that there -is- logic to where those points get removed from. It's not last-in-first-out, but rather any multi-point nodes that you have maxed out. Your 5/5 will become a 4/5, etc. Doesn't solve the problem, but learning this has saved me some time figuring out where the points got yanked from.

[eternal stone]

yes, I also noticed this, but still annoying af

[shut walrus]

how do I know if I get blinded? Other than doing less damage due to losing crit?

[candid elm]

This page shows what the ailment icon looks like. I don't know if there are enemies that Blind the player, though?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/ailments/blind

[shut walrus]

this says im immune to blind

[candid elm]

Hmm, maybe someone else knows for sure. At the very least, I don't see any echo modifiers or monster modifiers for it.
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monolithmods
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monstermods
There is an echo modifier for enemy Critical Strike Avoidance, which can stack if you get it multiple times.

[shut walrus]

should i ask in "ask-the-devs"?

[candid elm]

Sure, or maybe someone else here knows if or which enemies can Blind

[shut walrus]

because my build works from 100% crit chance and even without the helm i have not noticed it going down

i dont know if ive ever been blinded?

[desert tree]

If you have the helmet you cant be blinded

Also blind would set your crit chance to 0

[shut walrus]

yes but even without the helmet i have not been blinded to my knowledge

[candid elm]

If you're using an always Crits passive, that actually sets you at 100% Crit Chance, and the echo modifier for Enemy Crit Avoidance would reduce that. If you get that echo mod a couple of times stacked you can really feel it

[fading stag]

do my skills reset if i change my mastery, or do they stay the same lvl like a normal respec w/o mastery change?

[shut walrus]

im not using an always crits passive. I instead put the points into "weapons of choice" in the bladedancer tree which gives me 160% crit chance for 8 points.

i dont have an always crit passive in the rogue tree

[candid elm]

Skills stay the same, but you'll need to assign the points into your base class and masteries to get access to the ones locked by points - as the mastery respec also resets all your passive points

[fading stag]

perfect. tyvm!

[candid elm]

That is % increased Critical Strike Chance.

Example, a Skill has a base Crit Chance of 5%. With 100% increased Critical Strike Chance you'd then have 10% Crit Chance. 160% would be 13%.

If instead see something like "+X% Critical Strike Chance" that is flat added Crit Chance. For example +3% Critical Strike Chance would take a base 5% Crit to 8%.

Flat added Crit Chance is added first. Then the % increased Crit Chance is multiplied.

[shut walrus]

but my question is what happens if I get blinded?

nothing happens then?

[candid elm]

With that Helmet, nothing happens as you're immune

[shut walrus]

but i recently got this helmet. I spent the majority of farming monoliths without immune to blind and I've never seen it happen to me

ive never seen my crit chance noticably drop

ive seen other stuff like resistances dropping and the such

with 500% crit multi i would notice doing 5x less damage

[candid elm]

Yeah I don't know if it's an issue. I don't remember which enemies Blind, if any

Getting multiple stacks of the Crit Avoid echo mod is something you'd probably notice. At least I did
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844008172640403496/1261765405979054251/image.png?ex=6916309b&is=6914df1b&hm=db17cada7efe6836bf12fbca60e861741109e51d34a807e0bc39dcd38cd9e598&

[shut walrus]

yeah but i can read that

i read my mods before i enter the echo tbh

[native sail]

If I remember correctly none inherently do but you can give things blind on hit via echo mods

[candid elm]

Yeah I didn't see Blind in the echo mods or monster mods
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monolithmods
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monstermods
Unless I just missed it

[shut walrus]

hmmm I got this and none are listed in the MG. I dunno how much to sell it for xD

anyone have any ideas?

[upper forge]

Are the seasons related store packs going away when the new season starts?

[shy turret]

pretty niche item, not used in any meta buiilds. won't have any demand, especially this late into the season. i'd say 10x the price of the 3lp version of that, but you can put whatever you want and someon might buy it

[toxic echo]

Unknown, usually announced around when the next season gets announced.

Typically they keep 2 seasons worth of mtx bundles, so if they stay with that, the weaver ones will be leaving next

[upper forge]

That's not bad. 👍

[pale locust]

hi! any recommendation on where to look for guides? i need a build guide for a rune master mague

[candid elm]

maybe check with #💰┃merchants-guild or there are some other discords focused more on that kind of thing

[candid elm]

On LE Tools there is https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/ or https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/ for written guides. On Maxroll at https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides. Also content makes post things on sites like YT

[shy turret]

the only other discord is TSM and that place is as dead a doornail

[shut walrus]

spicorr will you buy it from me

🙂

[shy turret]

hell no hahah

[shut walrus]

LOL

[pale locust]

thank you so much!

[shy turret]

someones people buy stuff though. you'd be surprised. like i sold a 3lp paranoia for 30m early in the season

[shut walrus]

why is there none being sold right now? it looks like a campaign item to me why wouldn't people be selling them

the bleeding heart

[native sail]

4LP is still pretty damn rare even on that

[shy turret]

the lpl is still 40 on it though, even though its lvl 4 item

so 4lp is pretty rare

LP4: 1 in 30,828

[shut walrus]

okay so if i list it maybe a hoarder trying to get lp4s will buy it

[shy turret]

yeah

[shut walrus]

how much should I list it for? lp3 is 100k

i would ask in the MG chat but its dead

[shy turret]

some low lvl items have weirdly high lpl levels, like arboreal circuit

[shut walrus]

weird

[shy turret]

i dunno man, few mil

[shut walrus]

i listed it for 2.3m

no one will ever use this

they would put it in their stah

stash

[shy turret]

yeah seems reasonable, might get a bite

[shut walrus]

yeah to whoever picks bleeding heart 4lp

[desert tree]

Because MS

[shut walrus]

that seems rare

to even search for that

[shy turret]

yeah i get it, but its still too high i reckon. it's almost impossible to get a 2lp with 18ms

[desert tree]

I think thats the point

[native sail]

Speed is a premium stat in all games in this genre. The faster you can move the faster you can farm.

[shut walrus]

thats why I like my crab ring over red ring 😄

[blazing glacier]

I specifically filter for perfect arboreals for this reason. xd

no implicit filter is annoying though

[shy turret]

no implicit searching is annoying in mg also

[shut walrus]

@shy turret hows your corruption farming going

[shy turret]

Im levelling another char right now, so not a whole lot

[shut walrus]

ah okay. im getting squishy here at 5.2k lol

[shut walrus]

on the item filter if it says SHOW 0+ LP i don't need the other boxes checked right? like after 1+

my evolution end is not checked for 1-4 lp so i was just wondering if it says 0+ lp i dont have to check them

[shy turret]

if you are talking about TSM filter, yeah. show 0+ includes everything. TSM filter gets it wrong sometimes though, like its hiding low lp peaks, but a 5 all stat 280+ 1lp peak can be turtled into a 3/4 lp easily and worth megabucks.

[shut walrus]

I find this a bit odd but I am farming 2k corruption instead of 5.2k and I am getting my imprinted items more frequently. What could be causing this?

[blazing glacier]

Either small sample size or you are doing 5k slower so it seems like fewer imprints, or you are doing less content that actually gives imprints.

[shut walrus]

well im doing 2k corruption to clear maps faster and do rift beasts

also doing trove

[blazing glacier]

Do you have any data to look at?

[shut walrus]

how do i find data for my drops?

well i listed a bunch of traitors tongue daggers in the MG half an hour ago

[icy drift]

You gotta note it down

[shut walrus]

i had like 35

[blazing glacier]

the old fashioned way, you make a sheet and write stuff down

otherwise it's purely a feeling

[shut walrus]

ah okay

[icy drift]

regardless it's not true. it's just because you clear faster and smoother

[shut walrus]

i understand

[blazing glacier]

imprints have a lot of variables

most procs won't even show up on your filter

[shut walrus]

well i still get all kinds of traitors

1-2 dex, all crit multi ranges

[icy drift]

yes those are the lucky ones

a lot of your imprint procs won't even be traitors tounges

[blazing glacier]

Each affix has a chance to remain the same also

[shut walrus]

oooh

[icy drift]

The key word is it'll try to drop an item "similar" to the one you imprinted

so often times it won't be the same item

[blazing glacier]

Yep. Uniques can become non uniques pretty often, if they are rare

[shut walrus]

this is what i have imprinted

i do get +2 to dex more often than 1

[blazing glacier]

Yes thats a good imprint*

That's probably just expectations, if you always got +2 dex then maybe you would notice crit chance being low more often

or etc etc

[shut walrus]

ooh

i have another dagger for caches

[blazing glacier]

if you have a 3 affix legendary imprint that

and sell the 3LP

more gold

[shut walrus]

really?

[blazing glacier]

yep same LP chance

[shut walrus]

what if i imprint this

what exactly will be different than the vanilla daggers

[blazing glacier]

just the rolls.

This is equivalent to 3LP

[shut walrus]

will legendary daggers drop?

[blazing glacier]

no

[shut walrus]

does it make it more likely for daggers to be 3lp?

[blazing glacier]

More LP on imprint base = more LP on imprints yes

not specifically 3LP, but yes more 3LPs

[shut walrus]

yeah i know ive gotten like 50 3 lps at least

[blazing glacier]

Each extra LP increases the chance of getting more LP.

[shy turret]

imprint proc corruption tops out at 1200.

[shut walrus]

nice to know thanks

🙂

[blazing glacier]

tbh theres also almost 0 difference between 100c and 1200c

[shy turret]

ive never ran troves at 100 before, but dominis had data for 500 being 98% or whatever it was

[blazing glacier]

eg. Kestral imprint at 100c vs 1000c both around 40% proc rate

[shut walrus]

also the gold drop is similar to 5k corruption when does that start to scale less

[dire knot]

I noticed that also 1k corruption imprinted drops more than 1.3 k -1.5 k corruption

Time to minimize my corruption to 1k for optimizing farm then..

[desert tree]

More corruption can means slower farm, so less imprint procc

[wintry hazel]

Reforging idols at the end of a cemetery, it's just dropping the same item again? Full reset

[icy drift]

Yep

Iirc

I never use that lul

[wintry hazel]

Only thing I find it useful for then is if you already got the ideal idols + enchants but implicit rolls could be better
But a bit underwhelming with 2 reforges from 1 clear

• 1000 amber / per

[faint cape]

It's for target farming specific idol bases. e.g., sacrifice a small weaver idol to get a fresh small weaver idol

It deletes any enchants you have on it

[sonic quail]

do we have any items that gives mana on hit

[blazing glacier]

the primordial hat

[candid elm]

Probably not in the way you're thinking. There may be a skill you can spec a certain way to either give you mana or have no mana cost. Some classes often have a skill to gain mana and another skill to spend mana.

As far as items, there's Butcher's Crown https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsBZwTiA that turns your Mana Regen into Mana on Hit.

And there's Executioner's Tithe https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcBYCZiA and Murama's Hilt https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcEZgdiA for Harvest.

[sonic quail]

tysm guyz

[sonic quail]

do yellow numbers represent critical damages (always)? and can ailments deal critical?

[faint cape]

Yes, yellow is a crit.
Almost all ailments deal damage over time, which cannot crit.

[hardy forum]

Hi all, I'm beginner and I have some questions. I'm at lv 86 with runemaster mage (fire aura + disintegrate) and I've just started my first empowered timeline. I just want to have fun and avoid making stupid decisions, but don't really want to stress too much about minmaxing and that kinda stuff. Not really looking at guides to get the perfect items, just having fun. With that said, here are my questions:

[storm wren]

Ok.

[hardy forum]

• what should I do with normal and rare items once I stopped leveling? I see exalts being important, and old items take up storage space. Shatter them for shards?
• how important is 75% resistance on everything? I feel like if I do that, most of my idol spots taken up and barely have anything left for fire damage or crit chance.
• for Ignivar's head, I wear a lot of +150%+ crit chance items but my total crit at C for spells is 51%. I get that it is multiplicative but should I try to build more chance or focus on fire damage now to get more dmg first? Fire dmg will boost both fire aura and disintegrate

sorry I wanted to start a new line but sent it accidentally xd

[solar monolith]

Has the corrupted form bug and aura of decay flick been fixed?

[storm wren]

@candid elm Someone ask for your help

[candid elm]

What's the issue?

[storm wren]

(I just know le have fire aura already)

[storm wren]

@candid elm Here :)

[storm blaze]

That's not specifically asking sweetgoat for it but in general

[storm wren]

The best professional answer always come from Sweetgoat :)

[candid elm]

I'm at work right now, maybe someone else is available

[hardy forum]

im going afk now so i can only check back in a few hours from now, not urgent

thanks all!

[storm wren]

1. Shatter them for shards is a good idea when you want many special affixes so just do that. You will not know when you need shards for this affix. Increase your range of affixes as large as possible.
2. You can be one shot if you don't cap resistances when corruption is more and more. But void is an exception if you don't farm something in that 3 void-relevant timelines (the black sun/fall of the empire/the last ruin)
3. Depend on your build. If your build is crit-based, stack crit chance and crit multiplier at first then increase fire damage. If your build is ailment-based, stack elemental damage over time as more as possible at first then increase fire damage.

[blazing glacier]

To add, capping resist is not crucial in LE, the way the math works is that monsters have 75% pen at high level so 65% res means you only take 10% more damage of that element.

Sometimes getting a different defense that applies to all elements can be better defensively than the final few % of resist.

Personally I get as much resist as I can thats easily accessible then focus on other stuff.

Phys res should be capped though. And void res for the pinnacle boss.

Ignivar head is not a typical crit build, you dont care about crit multi. Whether you want more "increased" damage or more "more" damage depends on how much you already have of each, and how easy it is to get more of each.

For typical disintegrate builds increased fire damage is kinda bad since increased elemental damage over time and intelligence already share that damage bucket so you have a lot of increased damage, and Ele DoT affix has way higher values than fire damage.

You also want flat crit and increased crit. 50% is pretty low for ignivar.

[sonic quail]

I cant add primordial rings into last epoch tools build, does anyone have same issue?

other rings can be saved into build

[paper magnet]

Do you have a primordial item already equipped?

[sonic quail]

yep, I had velocy dagger

oh, I get it xD I can only use 1 primordial item

[paper magnet]

Correct

[near thistle]

looking at the build guide for storm crow BM

both rings state you want 35% endurance

and the shield also gives like 25% endurance

why go for endurance if it caps at 60%?

[desert tree]

Read what the relic gives you

[near thistle]

more dmg/health for thee t-rex, ah

and 20% of that is given to the crows?

i see

also, i forget, can you slam sealed affixes?

i know you cant mod em, but fdidnt know about slams

[candid elm]

No. Sealed affixes are ignored with Eternity Cache Legendary item crafting. Sealed affix doesn't count towards the 4x required affixes and it's not available for transfer. That also includes T8 Primordial affix, which are in a second special Sealed slot.

The plus side to that restriction is you can then use Glyph of Despair to effectively remove an affix you don't want used in the Legendary crafting.

[hardy forum]

thanks a lot!

[hardy forum]

thanks, yeah for ignivar head, I don't add crit multi, but I need spell crit, so I wanted to increase that. Do I also need to increase my "critical chance" as well or only the spell critical chance? Is that what you mean by flat crit? Ignivar's head specifically says it only adds dmg based on spell crit.

As for your penultimate line, you mean I should look for "Elemental Damage over time" affix as the value itself goes higher than fire damage? What about the Fire damage over time affix? The vibe I get is that the more specific the affix, the higher the value goes, so Fire DoT seems more specific to me than Ele DoT. Appreciate the answers

[blazing glacier]

Critical chance and spell critical chance are the same. Spell crit is a subset of crit like fire damage is a subset of element damage.

That said, spell crit values are higher so generally you dont get much increased crit chance.

Flat crit is like +4% crit, increased is like 40% increased crit. Check prismatic gaze helmet in wiki, you can see both types on that item.

And yes. Ele DOT affix rolls very high values. Using other types of increased damage on Ele Dot builds is generally not worth it unless you can get a lot for free or the slot has no other valuable option.

The more specific bit is generally correct but some affixes are "special" for a certain slot or class and might be a bit different.

Keep in mind though that if you have multiple elements of added damage in your skill your increased fire would only apply to the fire portion. This is not based on the skill tag, its based on the type of added flat damage.

[hardy forum]

is it possible to leave my items inside the Farsight Turtle rerolling spot? XD how can I get them back?

[shy turret]

yeah, just go back in there and it should still be there

[hardy forum]

i couldn't go back because I've completed the eco. So the Travel button just says "completed"

there are some other ones of this same kind of echo that popped up

i'll try to enter one of those

okay, it worked, thanks 😄

[candid elm]

All of the crafting spots are like that. Just run it again if you forgot your item there.

[hardy forum]

thanks, cool, very ADHD friendly 😄

[tawny gorge]

hey, during the stream today i was told that if i want to farm good exalted items, i should run "conquered tower woven echo" and then empower exalted items to get t6/t7 or double t7.
i forgot to investigate that further. so i would like to fix it now: is that true?
i was under the impression that i can only empower unique items with nemesis to potentially gain LP or t6/t7

additionally how would running that echo would even help to farm exalted items if its only nemesis fights one after another?

[shy turret]

yes it's true. you can strategically choose to empower or banish/kill to maximise your results if you dont see anything with potential after the first empower. you don't get many items, but it's your best shot at double t7s.

[tawny gorge]

oh, so its based on items which nemesis offers to you. so far they been useless, other than uniques i drop there.
so i cant offer my own exalteds there as i can with uniques, correct?

[shy turret]

yeah, you can't offer your own exalts

so if theres no good rare/exalted bases that appear on the first empower, you can just banish straight away if exalt farming is your only goal

you usually have stuff to egg though so you can kill 2 birds

[tawny gorge]

and i guess it should be done on 300+ corruption?

[shy turret]

as high as you can safely do it without dying and killing them very fast

also, a rare item can still turn into a double t7 item, so it doesn't have to start out as exalted.

[tawny gorge]

thanks! appreciate the answers

[fast dove]

Did they stop showing mission targets on the map? I'm on chapter 6 right before Lagon and the things I need to kill I remember from last season that they wander endlessly around the map until I get near them

But because they move so much and have no idea where they are I can't find them, I circled the entire map for at least 8 minutes

[desert tree]

No, should still be on the map

[fast dove]

It didn't. I just stayed still until they came to me at one point, was much faster

[sonic quail]

can any class cast spell of other classes If it's possible on the item?
(for example, sentinel can use tornado?)

[storm wren]

A little question about the official web... No idea why the web can't load the own font. It show the default font (so all letters are capped) of my pc.

and the page keep loading...Until I stopped

Results are the same with VPN and without VPN

[blazing glacier]

You can but you dont get skill tree. These occasionally get used in builds like the old meteor belt bear

[versed garden]

is slamming prophecies on unique ring is a good way to get rind of atlaria? i think i dropped like 1000 rings so far and no luck

[terse canyon]

how do i calculate the damage of my skill? For Example Smite with say 200 flat ,500% increase, 300% more, 400% critmulti (100% chance) ,50 armorshred stacks ,50 res pen ,10 res shred? vs trash

[amber void]

the "X% chance of reducing damage to 0" uniques stack or only works for the highest value?

[blazing glacier]

Yes. If you've dropped 1k without RR that's pretty unlucky.

Something like 200k favor on average per RR. Can also use ascendance.

[blazing glacier]

Armor shred formula in tunklabs, res shred + pen are basically same bucket and more or less equivalent to a more damage multi, all the other buckets you just take the product of them all

[eager folio]

Anyone know if you add a set affix to an exalt item does it still work with whetstone gavel?

[versed garden]

i used like 300-400 k easily

[faint cape]

Should work same as any other affix, yeah. Not all stats can functionally be doubled, and set bonuses are not on the item so they aren't affected.

[blazing glacier]

It also depends on how aggressively you reroll and what lenses you use, but in general thats probably a bit unlucky but not completely unexpected

[eager folio]

I can test it pretty easily when I get home I’ll report back here.

[versed garden]

i used the good method (that one that makes me almost only have prophecies for bosses nemesis or mage)

so i almost never reroll

[blazing glacier]

that's not necessarily the "good one" for favor efficiency but probably close enough

[versed garden]

why not?

i didnt know there is a better one

[storm wren]

Which verison of le is while runemaster just released?

Oh belong to 0.9. 0.9.2

lol harbinger of stars is the item from that period

[hardy forum]

hey all, is it normal that I can't kill orobyss at 108 corruption? I've killed it once with the quest echo, but I can't kill it when it's the end of timeline echo that gives corruption and resets the web. I tried all kinds of item variations but I just die so easily. Am I doing something wrong or do I just need to farm better items with better affixes to be able to kill it?

[faint cape]

Early empowered can be rough, you likely just need more tankiness and/or damage. For now, I'd recommend running other timelines while you gear up to get grand blessings from them

[hardy forum]

thanks. What is tankiness? Armor, health, resistance?

[toxic echo]

all of it.

depends on your toon and what you already have and what you are building into

also be aware that every orobyss shade has a different skillset and typing. so if you have no fire res and run into a fire orobyss...you can look around for a different orobyss shade that isnt fire that might be easier for you

[hardy forum]

Okay, I have all of my resistances at 75% or slightly more. I also have 2k hp and 550 armor. I have disintegrate mage build with fire aura. Not the best to stand still in boss fights while channeling. Maybe need to get more leech while channeling and damage with that. or just armor and HP?

[toxic echo]

2k hp and 550 armor is really low...but you are a mage so armor isnt super easy to come by. are you using ward as well? also need to make sure your crit avoidance/crit reduction is at 100% as well

[blazing glacier]

Imo you might be over prioritizing resist. It's not as important in LE.

I've played a lot of mage in my day and almost never have fully capped resists, especially early in monos. Armor can be decent since it applies to all elements and goes well with armor + crit reduc affixes and the armor blessings. Plus if you have any all attr or strength you get a bit more % armor.

Mage also has armor % / mana idols which can be okay too if there isn't a better option.

Agree with Eagles that crit mitigation is key, probably reduction over avoid since you can get a bit of reduc for free in RM tree, plus you dont need to be exactly 100% reduced unlike avoid.

You can also look at grabbing some ward per second stuff / int / etc to get more ward. You are giga squishy and disintegrate is immobile.

Depending on your mastery you have different options for defense. You can also use flameward to tank big hits.

I dont think disintegrate builds usually go HP but its not like its a meta build so idk. Maybe you could do some sort of damage taken to mana before life setup if using the 0 mana disintegrate thing

[shut walrus]

is there a cap on how much memory amber you can hold? currently on the grind to gain as much as possible

[silver grail]

Let us know if you hit the cap! 🙂

[hardy forum]

thanks both to you and @toxic echo. So I played around a bit, and one key finding is that the spell damage leeched is giga great, like I can stand still, get hit down to 50% HP and back at 100% in like half a second sometimes. I also learned that I should do non empowered timelines if I die all the time and gear up a bit more. I barely have any items I want, like even the bases are not the best. Crit mitigation is something I haven't looked at but makes total sense. I think I'm at like 39% or something, so definitely need to bring that up. I use flame ward yeah, so maybe some mana spent as ward mechanic would work well too. Will see, time to sleep now 😄 thanks

glyph of dominion gives me 45% all resistance if I stand on top of it. So if I just pay attention to that, I can drop my resistances to 30%-ish and have so much extra affix slots for survivability or more damage

[blazing glacier]

You could do non empowered but you are really nerfing your loot a lot by doing that

[wicked ore]

is there a way to play with reset/fresh stash, currencies, affixes without going self-found?

[storm blaze]

no
unless you haven't played in the current season and start a character there

[wicked ore]

sadge

[faint cape]

You can do it in offline mode

But of course, that's effectively account wide self found

[wicked ore]

no i want to remain online
but it's okay
i think i'll wait until next season, i hope it's not too far away

[storm blaze]

Just do solo character found :^)

you will not regret solo character found

[wicked ore]

i wanna try out trading :3
my last character i did cof

[candid elm]

You can just make a new character and choose to join MG instead.

[wicked ore]

but my stash and stuff is still shared with my previous character afaik

[sonic quail]

loot lizard?

[candid elm]

Yes, but you can have CoF and MG characters with the same shared stash if you want

[undone rose]

What's the most effective combination of lenses for rune prophecies time/favor -wise?

[candid elm]

Depends on what type of target you prefer. But fastest is likely Focusing Lens of Time + Obscuring Lens of Time + whatever you want for the third.

Focusing Lens of Time makes it so you only get Prophecies with Timeline locations, so no Arena boss, Dungeon boss, or Campaign Locations. Obscuring Lens of Time does the opposite, no Timeline boss.

If you combine them both you just get Prophecies with generic things like any boss, Nemesis, Exile Mage, Siege Golem, Diamond Matron, etc. These tend to be very fast to run, especially the generic boss, Nemesis, and Exiled Mages, the latter two also count as generic bosses. Siege Golem and Diamond Matron you need to be in certain timelines.

For the third Lens, maybe you want one take makes it more likely you'll reroll into a certain Prophecy type. Or at higher rank for the third you can use Wealth or Rhyming Lenses that give double rewards and/or double uses.

If you instead want some Timeline boss targets, then you could use something in Obscuring slot instead. But unless you want to farm Arena or Dungeons, I'd highly recommend you use keep Focusing.

[undone rose]

Tyty, this is what I've been basically running with, just had to check.. It just takes so long to roll the rune prophecy without focusing+obscuring..

[faint cape]

Yeah, same model basically. The existence of these MG lizards is probably why we ended up with loot lizards, they just happened to have the models on hand and already colored.

of course, it could all just be because one/some of the art team really likes lizards and made the models/textures/animations for fun

[sonic quail]

it might be

[polar wasp]

Hi When is the new season??

[blazing glacier]

Note that it's generally not worth running only Obscuring OR Focusing, you'd want both or neither

[candid elm]

If you want some Timeline boss targets you don't use Focusing?

[candid elm]

Hasn't been announced yet

[polar wasp]

We ve been waiting for a long time

[blazing glacier]

I wouldn't, personally. Only 31 out of 80 prophecy conditions are blocked by this. It's less efficient than wealth or rhyme which cut your rerolls in half or slightly more (since rolling into two or more "good" prophecies still doesn't let you take two of them) at a slight cost penalty

I also hate timeline boss prophecies, personally. If I fill my board I probably need to go out of my way to kill several different bosses that give me nothing of value multiple times

And ones like lagon with the phases are still kinda dead

[candid elm]

I mean, personally, I'd only run Focusing + Obscuring.

But if you are tired of the generic targets, I'd rather have a Timeline boss as the targets than an Arena boss or dungeon enemies or a campaign boss

[blazing glacier]

I'm not saying that because of whether or not the content is good, I'm saying that it's causing you to spend more favor and click reroll more

[candid elm]

Hopefully we get a prophecy screen overhaul at some point

[blazing glacier]

here is the chance of getting an acceptable condition, assuming you want any generic or any mono condition (minus lagon, fk that) for each combination of lenses

[blazing glacier]

big agree

to be fair, double blocker isn't that great either in this scenario, if you would take any mono or generic since you are already okay with the majority of conditions.

[shut walrus]

hey I've been farming caches and was wondering if they have increased rarity in general? I've been getting some good items other than my imprinted ones

[signal whale]

i can help

[faint cape]

They have specialized drop pools, typically dropping several exalts each. So in a way, yes kinda.

[shut walrus]

what about LP items? I've been getting some i rarely see

[vernal sail]

Is there a place I can look to see what all affixes can roll on a certain base?

[faint cape]

Pretty sure they have no effect on LP chance, might be luck or just them dropping multiple uniques

[shut walrus]

ah okay

[faint cape]

LE Tools can do that. I prefer the planner for it, since searching the item database is not as quick.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

[vernal sail]

Thank you so much

[hardy forum]

thanks, well losing loot by dying to bosses also nerfs my loot quite a bit 😄

if I make an alt who is in the trading guild, can I buy items for my CoF main and give it to it via stash?

[blazing glacier]

no you cant equip them

[hardy forum]

thanks. Is Disintegrate considered a "hit"? So effects like "Ignite on Hit" "Chance to ignite on hit while channeling" also trigger or disintegrate hits?

[desert tree]

Disintegrate is a Dot, so no hit

[sturdy nacelle]

So S4 prob 2026?

[ivory night]

What is end game here? Only pushing monoliths?

[icy drift]

For the most part yes, although woven echo farming is the most efficient way of getting loot once you've reached your target corruption

[mortal hill]

Anyone else having issues with cosmetic pets (and cosmetics in general) in full offline ? When i set up a pet it disappears after changing zones (loading screen). Also the cosmetics get unequipped when you exit the game to windows. I tried to verify files but that did not help.

[desert tree]

#💬┃general message

Go check that message

[hardy forum]

what is this 14 thing? When I hover over it it says it gives me more timeline stability, but no description anywhere nearby. I heard there is some crafting you can do that you destroy items and it adds stability. Is this it? If so, how does it pick which items to destroy?

[storm blaze]

There used to be a glyph that you could use while crafting to change the item and give you stability
That glyph was removed and now you have that thing. if you click the green + next to it it'll give you stability and consumes one of the things

[hardy forum]

okay so no items will be destroyed? Just consume 1 of those things and get stability? Sounds cool. The next question is, should I do it? I can barely kill the bosses, and have only slain 1 harbinger so far. At 100 corruption as you can see. Orobyss is tough, and last time when I summoned a harbinger, it killed me instantly after finally defeating orobyss 😄

[storm blaze]

Yeah no items are destroyed , just consume one of those things and get stability. it does give you an estimate of how much it gives
And that's your decision if you want to use them or not

Also harbingers don't come after beating orobyss 🤔

[hardy forum]

ok, let me rephrase. What is the point of having more stability? Is it to be able to do the 850-900 quest echo?

okay, maybe I don't remember accurately then, it only happened once xD

I think I used some kind of item that asked me to summon a harbinger at the end of boss fight. Maybe it was a different boss then

[storm blaze]

Yeah, you'll be able to do the boss of that zone and fight the harbinger after it (if you've high enough corruption) when you have enough stability

[hardy forum]

Okay, thank you! By high enough corruption, that's the one that it says at the forgotten knight faction, right? It says for next harbinger I need 100 so I'm good 😄

[storm blaze]

Yeah, 100
then in next area it'll need 125
and the last one will need 300
There's also corruption catch up mechanic that if you've higher corruption (by 40) in one area it will spawn the shade of orobyss isle and doing that will get you almost to that corruption

so you don't need to grind each area separately

[hardy forum]

okay, I'm barely surviving 100, so it seems like it will take some time. Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.

Do i need to kil all 10 harbingers once to be able to enter the Shattered Road?

[storm blaze]

To get to the boss there, yes
The shattered road should be open either after your first or 2nd kill

What build are you playing?

[hardy forum]

disintegrate mage

[storm blaze]

Ah yea that probably would explain it being hard
Can't really channel while you're dead

[storm wren]

channel spell in both of poe and le isn't a good option for a build unfortunately

Lack of mobility is deadly, because mobility is the advantage of casters

[molten compass]

i am about to ask a horridly stupid question, does corruption increase boss specific drop chance?

[desert tree]

Yes because Corruption increase Rarity

[molten compass]

sigh kay lol

[meager junco]

lol

it is up to linear increases

[molten compass]

im just sick of farming for ravenous void is all

[desert tree]

Yeah that's a pretty rare one

Iirc there is a cap too

[meager junco]

does skipping the harbinger affect the drop chance? 🤔

[paper magnet]

No

Ravenous Void's drop rate increase flattens out pretty hard by like 600c

[molten compass]

well im at 555 and semi getting owned lol

[desert tree]

Kinda because you save time

[hardy forum]

yeah im starting to realize that now. I managed to push till 134 corruption

but can't defeat the 3rd harbingert

like I can either run around or damage it

and the fight with Rayeh + harbinger took 15 minutes, and I died at harbinger 30% hp.

I wonder what's a better mage build because this is clearly not it 😄

[storm wren]

how much your character level is when 134c?

[hardy forum]

91

should that be good enough?

or I just need to level higher?

[storm wren]

Yes, just remind of my lv 74 occultist in poe...

[storm wren]

https://www.youtube.com/@FrozenSentinel/videos

Any mage builds from him can keep you swimming all the time until 1000c if you don't want to min-max

[hardy forum]

thanks I'll take a look

[storm wren]

My runemaster trapped in 100+c too because the build I made by myself don't have suitable unique items to support, it's a shame

[hardy forum]

yeah, its my first one so it seems like I need to transform it into a good farming build that works with uniques I already have or legendaries

I have a bunch of 1lp stuff, maybe some 2 and 3 LP items as well

but none worked well for my disintegrate build

gotta be moving around

[molten compass]

4% drop rate is...just brutal

[blazing glacier]

Disintegrate is honestly just hard to make work. Theres a few really "weird" unintuitive options that make disintegrate kinda okayish, like spellblade crit stack getting like 600%+ crit from the crit passives with int and so on with ignivar head, theres the sacrificial embrace variant, and I think also a mana stack variant. They all rely on some really specific setup to stack into something niche. And even if you build it really "optimally" it's still not anywhere near a "good" build imo.

Even with a few LP it's probably going to be a struggle, basically playing mage on hard mode.

A lot of the good mage builds in the past have been pretty high mobility, ranged, and high damage, avoiding a lot of incoming damage altogether (or just having extremely high ward generation, but we won't talk about that)

[hardy forum]

Thanks! I just checked your channel, so for the last 90 minutes I've been watching your vids 😄 I really like the lightning builds, so I'll try the runemaster one, currently going through what items I have for it. Too bad I wasn't picking all LP0 uniques just some of the rare ones (from Raxx's universal filter), but I do have a 2LP alchemist's laddle, 2x 1LP enigma's a 1LP Wrongwarp, and a 21 WW knoweldge of erased mage (it's imprinted now) so I think I'm off to a good start 😄 Your vids are great, very well explained, thanks! Subscribed 😉

[desert tree]

EHG and their cursed calculator

Some skills get a boatload of More Dmg, some don't get any

[sonic quail]

If you had skill list from best to worst, which skill would be first (asking to everyone)

[night tulip]

need help with "lagon" boss non-season

[hardy forum]

to change a blessing, I have to redo that timeline?

[indigo berry]

You can respec blessings to any blessing you have discovered, but if you want an undiscovered blessing, or a better roll of any of the blessings, you have to farm them from the timeline boss.

[hardy forum]

thanks, I've found the NPC

@blazing glacier in the early empowered timelines, should I be building lightning damage or crit chance and crit multi? I feel pretty weak atm. currently running 233% lightning damage and 76% crit chance with 238% multiplier.

[blazing glacier]

Lightning damage where that's the only offensive option, crit / cast speed elsewhere

[hardy forum]

thanks!

[blazing glacier]

you get a lot of increased damage from intelligence anyway, your #1 priority is getting high int

int:

• Cast speed
• Ward retention
• Increased damage
• Flat damage
• Spell crit chance

Oh also LB levels. You want as many as possible early on, it's a lot of added damage

[hardy forum]

oh I only have 69 int 😄

[blazing glacier]

yea that's a problem

[hardy forum]

okay I'll make LB levels

[blazing glacier]

First big damage spike is probably enigma, then ladle, then vilatria + legends entwined combo (can even use the set helm directly) then enough LB levels to get the spark nova nodes

[hardy forum]

I found 1x LP0 enigma and 2x LP1 enigma

😄

[blazing glacier]

yep, then you work on getting 1LP and good rolls

orian belt also gives up to 20 int

fairly easy to get

[hardy forum]

damn, I just beat the 133 harbinger first try fairly easily, the one that screwed me over with the disintegrate build! Thanks man!

what's the crab doing? I have the ring but it's totally useless so far

[blazing glacier]

crab ring give 20% ms, all attribute, and % armor

crab is useless, ring gives good stats early on

[hardy forum]

okay 😄 thanks, yeah the ring is good

[desert tree]

Crab is meme, crab is love, crab is life

[sonic quail]

no cap on mana strike node?

[desert tree]

No, effectively capped by how much attack speed you can get

[fading stag]

what's a good "cheap" (like 1lp) build for uberoth? reflect takes me some attempts, so i'd like a farming build. any suggestions or links appreciated!

[hardy forum]

hey all, I've never slammed items before. I have a few lp1 and lp2 items I want to work with. Is it generally a good direction to keep the best one untouched and imprinted (like I have 2x lp2 enigma's) and play around with the rest? And if I only have 1x item with lp1, I shouldn't slam it and wait for another one right?

[hardy forum]

where does Critical Strike Multiplier fit in this?

[manic bluff]

ayo quick question: I skilled "Desolation" on the Lich node tree. By accident. Is there a way to remove it?

otherwise I delete the char and start froms cartch

[hardy forum]

I don't know about that specific skill, but you can respec everything in this game

except the class itself

[manic bluff]

How do I do that?

[hardy forum]

Are you looking to respec a skill or a passive tree?

[manic bluff]

I willt ext you

[native sail]

Brain NPC in town for passives.

[manic bluff]

right right

even in the chapters?

[native sail]

Yeah

[hardy forum]

every town

[manic bluff]

i want to remove that shitty spawn chance of spear skelletons that is not the way I wanna build my Btch I mean lich

[hardy forum]

but you can also just despecialize a skill

press S and select the tree

[manic bluff]

no no no not S the P one

[hardy forum]

and on the top right there is a "RESPEC"

oh okay then brain npc 😄

[manic bluff]

ah ok ok

thanks for the quick help and thanks to you I dont have to delete my gurl and restart froms cratch

[blazing glacier]

INT doesnt give crit multi, those are the things int gives

[hardy forum]

oh I thought it was a priority order for affixes :DDDD

my bad, I read it wrong xd

[blazing glacier]

No that was the previous comment

[hardy forum]

so when you say "crit" is it chance or multiplier?

[eternal storm]

I enchanted an armor earlier with +% added melee crit to minions (tier 6 was 10-12%) from what I understood, that was a base upgrade crit chance to melee to my minions added to the base 5 right? even though the minion tab was only showing 7% crit? but I guess it was all around crit and not melee? is there a way to see all stats? because with abilities active, like warcry, frenzy totem and other I couldn't see the real crit melee crit chance my squirrel had

[storm wren]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[candid elm]

@delicate dust there's one now, bot post for regex filter test

@robust vessel @shy stream @white linden
Bot post for regex filter test

[storm wren]

I don't think Derrick and Van will be here in weekend lol

[candid elm]

Kain asked for one of them to be notified next time there was one of these posted

[blazing glacier]

It depends on what stage you are at. Without crit chance, multi is useless. Without multi, crit chance is useless. Early on you can't really get much of either so prioritizing other stats over crit chance / crit multi is probably better value.

Once you can get at least one flat crit item (blood mage gloves probably) and some int for spell crit you can start prioritizing multi. But you'll probably want at least one spell crit slam to get your crit near 100%.

Once you have really good gear you don't really need any spell crit slams to reach crit cap, so multi takes priority. The goal is to have near 100% crit chance with as much multi and other stats as possible.

[magic halo]

Hey everyone

So I know personal loot filter are different then already made loot filter on maxroll website. My question is can any break down the color coating guide on order of tier and the dots beside loot name? I get confused on what to equip and not sometimes

[candid elm]

If you're asking specifically about a filter from a Maxroll guide, they have an article on their filters here https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/resources/understanding-maxroll-loot-filters

[candid elm]

the dots by item names is a setting in game. it shows you the number of prefixes and suffixes on an item. under Settings -> Gameplay -> Item Ground Label Affix Indicators "Add dots to item labels on the ground reflecting affix slots"

dots on the are for prefix. dots on the right are for suffix. or you can just uncheck that setting if you dont' want to see it.

example, this item has 2 dots on the left so it has 2x prefixes and 1 dot on the right so it has 1x suffix

[magic halo]

So more dots on pre and suf the more it lines up with what im looking for or has what im looking for?

[candid elm]

two separate things. the dots is a setting in game that shows you affixes on item. they correspond to these on the item.

if you don't like seeing the dots, just turn off the setting

the colors on the filter are set by the person that made the filter

check the maxroll guide i linked above for details on how they setup their filter

[magic halo]

Thx

[vernal sail]

Can you get a sealed affix on a unique or legendary?

[storm blaze]

No

[hardy forum]

Thanks, makes total sense. I'm at around 60% spell crit chance now. Will mess around, thanks!

[hardy forum]

quick Q: If I only have 1 unique from a base with 0LP, and I put it in nemesis to get LP on it, but it makes it a legendary instead, can I still imprint it in WT to get more base uniques or is that screwed and gonna only drop legendaries from that point?

[desert tree]

I cannot drop as legendary

So if you get a 1 affix legendary it will count as you imprinting a 1lp unique

[hardy forum]

oh that's great, thanks!

because i messed up one of the items

okay another one. If I'm playing mage now, should I be picking exalted items for melee attack chars like 2h sword, mace, spear, daggers, etc? Is it worth pikcing for a mage too or only if I wanna play another alt later?

[fallen parcel]

You should pick items with t7 affix with a lootfilter cause you may wanna try another class later on and you can use that gear to facilitate making a new alt and the gear they need.

[hardy forum]

yeah that makes sense and I've set my Loot filter to show all T7s for now. But T6 - non class items should not keep up space, right?

[vernal sail]

I had a question about idols, let's say I get a bunch of 1x1 small idols. Are the affixes it rolls random and you can get a pretty cool combo or is the suffix always determined based on prefix?

Hopefully that makes sense

[hardy forum]

I'm curious about this too, seems like a lot of them are paired up a certain way

[desert tree]

Prefix and suffix are rolled randomly within the available pool

There are 2 types of 1x1 idol
Small and minor

[vernal sail]

Is this for all the idols?

[desert tree]

Yup

[vernal sail]

Oh dang okay that's pretty cool

[desert tree]

Prefix and suffix are never tied together

[vernal sail]

Also I joined the circle of fortune and was wondering what and how I do the weaver stuff?

Or am I only allowed one faction of that type

[desert tree]

You are allowed 1 item faction (cof/mg)

But you can join the Weaver faction and the Forgotten Knight Faction too

[vernal sail]

What are those other two?

Also is there any requirements for joining them?

I only know about cof/mg

[desert tree]

Finding them during your monoliths journey 😊

I don't want to spoil too much

Seems like it's your first playthrough

[vernal sail]

Yeppers 🙂

About to hop on and grind

[desert tree]

You will come across them pretty naturally

Finished the campaign yet?

[vernal sail]

I took a break to sleep but about to start back at it, just got to end of time again on this character

[desert tree]

I'll give you a hint because you might miss it early

The Woven faction is triggered when you first complete a Cemetery echo

[hardy forum]

can I slam a Primalist Relic into other class like a Mage Relic unique?

[desert tree]

If it doesn't have any mage specific affix, I believe you can yes

[hardy forum]

anyone also struggling with their stashes being linked up somehow and jumping between categories or even moving entire items? And one category being duped?

[cedar tundra]

should i start with paladin mastery first for beginner and then respec to void knight ? or should i just start with void knight cause it says in the guide to use paladin first

[storm wren]

No need to follow the guide completely if you don't want. This game give rich rooms for you to make mistakes

Just explore.

You never know why guide suggest you to play paladin at first if you just follow that

[storm blaze]

Is it an erasing strike void knight build?

[cedar tundra]

yea

[storm blaze]

Then it's because erasing strike is very heavy on the mana and needs gear + passives to start working properly

So it's easier to lvl as a paladin
or you could also use warpath for lvling

[cedar tundra]

is warpath better than hammer?

[storm blaze]

Honestly I always get bored while playing Warpath

[cedar tundra]

is hammer still viable on paladin?

[storm blaze]

yes

[hardy forum]

how can I remember which timeline I was playing in? XD When I log off I get put back into a town and I have no idea now where I was xd

[indigo berry]

No way to know afaik. No choice but to remember - or write it down 🙂

[hardy forum]

yeah, I will

gladly I rmembered now from corruption

if I go into the reset echo and I die, does it waste Gaze of Orobyss?

[storm blaze]

it used to but it doesn't anymore

[cedar tundra]

what stats should i prioritize for paladin build?

[storm blaze]

It really depends on what kind of dmg you're going to be doing
You could be doing physical, lightning or fire for example
and if you're using hammerthrow as your dmg source it doesn't really care about the weapon dmg but will benefit from % increased dmg to the dmg type

[shut walrus]

I have an idea about being able to see the trade history or items listed or being bought just so I can look at it in the future. Where would I suggest this?

[storm blaze]

#suggestions

[hardy forum]

if I die in the bloodline glade woven echo, do I still get the primordial items if I can kill them all? Do they get stronger with each one? The second one killed me xd

[desert tree]

No because the loot drops at the end of the echo

A'd I don't think they get stronger, they get random mods, so they might be more dangerous

[hardy forum]

damn now I killed 3 and died to the 4th

yeah they seem random

ill probably have to leave it... 🙁 4k amber wasted

[storm wren]

More practice you get, more chance you get to win in bloodline glade

If I can deal with 8 rift beasts by a poor squishy marksman, you can do that too

[hardy forum]

okay I'll keep trying

[storm wren]

(why I say my marksman is poor)

[desert tree]

It's a really hard one

[hardy forum]

i can do it if i pay atention

but its long and i get tired

I can't even see my mouse

[storm wren]

A long chain battle. Indeed

It's why I never play The Fading Brink...The chain battle even longer than bloodline glade

[hardy forum]

does corruption impact this echo?

my discord doesnt play videos 🙁

[storm wren]

yes

[quaint kraken]

Hey guys - newb here - i'm about level 63 - i've had the same weapon for quite some time - is it all about forging at end game?

basically just wondering how to find better weapons

[storm blaze]

Plenty of builds use legendary weapons

[last wraith]

In the store UI It shows these with these fire tendrils (w/e they're called). But in the video preview they are missing. So which is it?

[hardy forum]

I think you have an exalted weapon (purple) at that level. Without spoiling it too much, in the endgame you will be slamming the suffixes of those exalted items into unique items with legendary potential to get an even bigger spike in damage, etc. So the forging is only to make the exalts better, than you basically add a unique item to get a legendary item

[quaint kraken]

Thanks - i need to learn how to forge better - still have Harthenon's Axe because of the 111% Melee Damage %

[hardy forum]

I don't know that item I'm also a beginner. Just enjoy the game 😄

[shut walrus]

does rarity of items increase at the rate that Active Modifiers says or does it scale less with increases in corruption like other things?

[hardy forum]

LOL I'VE DONE IT!!! I equipped a different weapon and had lot more damage with it 😄 and also I stopped running around so much and just dodged the one shot things. Also did a few echos that got rid of the enrage at half health modifier, it helped a lot

the loot is totally useless however xd one item that might be good for something 😄

[desert tree]

If you are a Melee build you are hindering yourself

Hartenon has very little Flat Dmg

And that's way more important than %Melee Dmg

[hardy forum]

@blazing glacier hey, I'm having a blast with this ligthning blast build 😄 pun intended. It's amazing. I have a question though: the guide says to use Telf'un Mirage boots, but that doesn't give much because we are not channeling any ability. So it seems like it gives +12 int, ward decay threshold, and a bunch of movement speed. Is that cool to swap with a "blood of the exile" boots? I know it gives less INT (7 instead of 12) but more movement speed (40% instead of 36%) and I at least have that now and can wear it. Is that a reasonable swap?

[blazing glacier]

8 instead of 12, but yes thats the trade off. Blood also gives up to 8 str, which would be 48% increased armor

[hardy forum]

yeah mine only has 7 int 😄 It has a +4 strength affix because nemesis put it on. I'll play around, thanks

[hardy forum]

what happens if I don't open the chest at the end of an echo? Does it collect more and more?

[faint cape]

No, the "reward rock" and chest are lost if you move on without collecting them

[hardy forum]

okay, ty

[sharp bison]

Is it worth it finishing the bonus stability bar in the monolith or just leave when the objective is completed?

[faint cape]

Generally, just leaving when you complete the objective is the way to go. The most common exception is if you have a tomb or rift in your map that you still want to do/find.

[warped sky]

ime it doesn't matter that much if you have good clear, staying and jumping immediately after objective are both good enough. iirc killing more monsters charges up the end-of-echo chest too

[manic bluff]

How "Meta" is Judgement Aura Paladin ?

[desert tree]

Not very popular but it can kill uber in 1 min so pretty strong

[eternal stone]

Hey. When the prophecy gives me diamond matron / siege golem as a target, can I kill them on the campaign area as well? Im afraid, if Im killing them there, the drop wont be as good as killing them in an X corruption echo.

[icy drift]

It'll tell you where to kill them

if it doesn't then it doesn't matter

[storm blaze]

You can
if it doesn't specify "Monolith"

[eternal stone]

yeah but I mean at the campaign there are low level areas.

okay then, thanks

[eager folio]

Is strength worth 6% armor?!? I always thought it was 4%, that’s a huge difference if I’m wrong lol

[icy drift]

It's 4% inc

He meant with 12 str

You get 48%

[hardy forum]

if its my first time pushing corruption, do I need to go all the way to the edge to find the reset node and use 4 gaze of orobyss to get more corruption, so roughly 48+6 = 54 corruption can be gained per monolith? Or is there a faster way to push more corruption? I'm beating the mobs very easily but running throguh all the echos until I reach the end of the timeline is time consuming.

[faint cape]

If you're spamming boss fights to get a lot of gazes, you can stack up 8+ gazes and that will force a Shade node immediately at the start of the web.
Alternatively, farther Shade nodes give more corruption, they go up to about +16 ish closer to the actual edge.

[hardy forum]

oh okay, thanks! I have 4 gazes now. I did all my harbinger woven echos now and got many needles, so I'll do the boss fights. So basically:

• get harbinger's needles
• fill up timeline stability with temporal keystone
• challenge boss with harbinger needle: get 1+3 gaze
• then do shade node (which should spawn close to the start of the web) to add more corruption

[faint cape]

Yeah, you will also need to run 1 regular echo in the new web to trigger the "catch up" Shade after you reach the 8+ gaze threshold

[hardy forum]

okay, thanks. Something strange happened. I have 8 gazes now and the shade at the end of the timeline says 52 gained from gazes. What's that about?

it should be 48

4x12

[hardy forum]

damn I had 16 gaze of orobyss and now they are all gone...

or all those specific to one timeline?

[storm blaze]

They're specific to one timeline

[faint cape]

Specific to one timeline, but once you've built up one timeline's corruption, you can catch up your others pretty near instantly

[hardy forum]

thanks! I'm glad they aren't lost 😄 I'll consume them and increase the corruption 😄

I've managed to kill Aberroth!! So GG to me 😄 Thanks for all your help, especially @blazing glacier, that Lightning Blast build is insane. I killed Aberroth on the 5th try, and the fight lasted around a minute or so 😄 I think the biggest spike in my build was the Primordial ring that did like a 3x on my damage instantly, and wearing the mad alchemist's ladle after, even though it showed half damage on my tooltip, it added up quite strongly after the debuffs. And then stacking INT obviously 😄

[storm blaze]

I still haven't beaten Aberroth
I also have no interest in doing it

[candid elm]

Regular Aberrorth isn't too bad, once you learn the attack patterns

If you're interested in trying that sometime

[storm blaze]

I've only grinded once until reaching it
I get bored before I reach that point

[hardy forum]

my stash is now full of all kinds of 1LP items. My loot filter is currently set up to show all lp1 stuff, but so many items now. How do you guys do it? I don't plan to play with an alt in the forseeable future, and if I do, I can grind some echos with the new items turned on. Should I just turn all lp0 and lp1 items off that are very common and not useful for my build?

[candid elm]

Up to you. Lately I've just been picking one or two builds I want to play a Season. Then gathering items just for those builds. That has the positive of way less stuff to deal with and the negative that if I wanted to play third build, I wouldn't have items for it.

Alyeny, if you enjoy collecting stuff, you can just be a pack rat and keep everything.

[blazing glacier]

Every item has a different rarity and LP level, usually I'll pick up all 4LPs, most 3LPs, really rare 2LPs or build specific, then really rare build specific 1LPs or things I want to put in turtle, then only giga rare 0LPs like Red Ring.

If I find myself with a tab full of 1LPs of a certain unique it probably means my filter is too light, I dump them and make my filter more strict.

[burnt crag]

turtle is fun to mass dump 1lp tabs into

[blazing glacier]

For exalts early on I keep most T7s at least some for each base but specifically usable ones. Then over time I keep a few of each base just in case I want to try something out, I can rune of havoc it.

Then eventually only pick up double T7s

[icy drift]

I put on a giga specific filter right away for a single build and play that one build for the whole season

[hardy forum]

oh okay, I'm currently picking even T6 stuff so need to stricten the filter a bit.

So from what I understand, if I want high LP the process is like this:

0 LP -> Nemesis, then 3 things can happen:
a) gets 2+ LP, then nothing you can do but you are happy
b) gets into a Legendary (bricked) so maybe you keep it to sacrifice for rerolling affixes of other uniques
c) gets 1LP, then you throw it in Turtle, and repeat the process.

@blazing glacier does your Loot filter for this build have this LP filter set up roughly like you said above? https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/KBakgaeA

[icy drift]

This heavily depends on the items lpl btw

Which is its effective level for legendary potential, the higher it is the rater legendary potential is

[hardy forum]

Is that the level of the item or something different?

[candid elm]

Nemesis can also possibly upgrade the LP twice.

[icy drift]

Different, it isn't shown in the game anywhere

You have to use something like
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/unique

It's good to be aware of how rare the roll you're going for is so you can gauge if you're actually willing to go for it.

Also beware that while corruption does affect the lp of items dropped normally it does not affect nemesis or turtle.

[hardy forum]

can you explain this in like a very high level? I understand that items have a required level and this LPL which is different. What do you mean by "how rare a roll you're going for" is?

[icy drift]

A unique egged at 100 corruption is the same as the same unique egged at 1000000 corruption

[icy drift]

So if an item has 0 lpl, getting 1lp is a 39.6% chance by default for example. But if the item has 100 lpl getting 1lp is only a 6.1% chance

So the higher the lpl the lower your chances of getting lp

So for example going for 4lp on a 0lpl item can be realistic, but if the item you're farming has an lpl of 70 you should maybe only aim for 2 lp, since getting 4lp is practically impossible

And for some like red ring of atlaria just 1lp can be the goal

Since the item itself is rare and its LPL is high

That's why on some build guides you might see some uniques with 3 or even 4 legendary affixes but other uniques with one one or two

[hardy forum]

oh I see, thanks, makes sense

Does LPL affect the affix reroll chance, or is that just random with equal distribution or some unknown distribution curve?

[icy drift]

What do you mean by affix reroll chance?

And little is unknown :P

The only thing lpl affects is the items odds to get legendary potential

[shut walrus]

what about getting more lp items through imprinted items

[hardy forum]

Like when you use 2 uniques of the same LP level and sacrifice one to reroll the affix ranges on the other

[blazing glacier]

Lp level doesn't matter for reroll, its LP or legendary affix count

LP level is purely an internal "score" for how hard it is to get LP on a given item

[blazing glacier]

Yes. LPL matters for everything that can give LP, otherwise Red Ring would be as easy to get LP as Kestral

Here, bless tunk:
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/lp-chance

[blazing glacier]

My loot filter does account for that but most likely its going to be pretty strict compared to what you want early on

There are some disabled rules you can re-enable iirc

[hardy forum]

yeah, I turned on a few more rules like T7 1x exalts and even some T6s. Will see 😄 So far so good. Lot less trash, so thanks a lot!

[shut walrus]

yeah my uber strict filter gives me t6 exalteds and some uniques that only sell for 1000 gold in the MG

had to turn that off

[cedar tundra]

what build should i be using for paladin ?

[icy drift]

Could go smite warpath

You already have the relic

[cedar tundra]

im using this is this still good?

[icy drift]

Rive is solid yeah

[cedar tundra]

Should i be using it with javelin or is there a better option

[icy drift]

Personally I would just specialize holy aura or symbols of hope to not have to worry about pressing as many buttons

And just focus on rive

[cedar tundra]

Alright thanks

[hardy forum]

when it comes to rune of Havoc, if I'm working with 1x T7 exalts, is it a 25% chance that the T7 goes to the deisred spot? Or does it always stay on top/bottom? Like if my item is xx/x7, and I want to get a T7 int, which seems to always be on top slot like 7xxx, is that impossible? Or still a 25% chance to jump there? Not imprinting or anything, just wanna slam some LP1 items

Also, another question is can primordial items (ring Legends Entwined) drop from imprints? I've put it in there for a while now and I haven't seen any drop...

[paper magnet]

Havocs force all tiers to change. If you have a 2227 you have a 33% chance to hit the affix you want. If you have a 2347 you have a 26% chance to hit.

[paper magnet]

No

[candid elm]

Imprints just works on random drop items. Not with uniques that are boss only / restricted drops. Legends Entwined Primordial unique is available just from either Skarven Bloodhorn NPC or Rift Beasts drops.

One way to check if a unique will work with Imprints is to look the item up on a site like https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/ or https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/uniques. Down at the bottom if you see it mention Random Drop and Rune of Ascendence, then that unique works with Imprints.

Random example of a unique that mentions random drop down at the bottom

[blazing glacier]

Its not exactly equal to go to each slot, its based on permutations.

But very roughly rule of thumb

It would be 1/3 to go to each other slot

7555 would have different chances than 7543 for example

[candid elm]

Xenomorf, Tunk also has a page for Havoc, if you're interested https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/havoc

[blazing glacier]

With 7555 you can't get 7555 again, but with 7543 you could get 7534

Yep that calc goes over the math of my poorly explained answer

[candid elm]

I thought it made sense : )

[hardy forum]

yeah okay it makes sense. So if I have 7 and 3 of the same, I have much better chances of moving that 7 than if it's 7 and the 3 are different. So basically you can get all possible permutations, except the one you currently have. So the best chance is 33%, and the worst is slightly above 25% because 25% includes the same one.

Thanks for the calculator

now I'm even more annoyed that I couldn't get a tier 7 int on a necklace out of 15 havocs on 2 items with a T7 and an int somewhere else 😄

[hardy forum]

damn, I've wasted a lot of other items then. This should be fixed so that I can't even put it in there...

[hardy forum]

oh that's very useful information, thanks!

so this one won't drop from imprints either?

nor this one:

HHHH lol guys, I've been running these items from 100 corruption up until 500 corruption now xddd

my current imprints XDDD

I was wondering why im not getting any drops xd

[paper magnet]

Get ARPG players to read challenge: difficulty impossible

[hardy forum]

LOL i got my first red ring!!!

just did a prophecy in campaign omg

I'm at rank 10, idk how much favor I've spent but it feels pretty lucky 😄

[faint cape]

Congrats! The first is the hardest, for sure

[hardy forum]

thanks! now it's imprinted 2x 😄

[candid elm]

Correct, if you're looking at Mad Alchemist's Ladle that only drops from Exiled Mages.

[hardy forum]

I am 😄

[candid elm]

And yeah, that one also doesn't work with Imprints.

[hardy forum]

too bad 😄 I guess the game just compensated me with a red ring 😄 so I'm not complaining 😄

[candid elm]

Red Ring is a random drop, though, so you can Imprint that!

[hardy forum]

yeah, now I know, thanks to you!

[shut walrus]

what are some other items that won't work being imprinted

[faint cape]

Anything that can't drop anywhere randomly, same restriction as rune of ascendance and prophecies.

So if the item says "random drop" on LE Tools (and gives RoA/proph chances), you can get it from imprints

[shut walrus]

oh okay thanks

[candid elm]

I posted some additional info up a bit higher with an example below it. Click -> #❔┃ask-the-community message

I think looking up the items is the best way to check.

[shut walrus]

sounds good thanks 🙂

[candid elm]

But in general if the unique drops only from a boss or specific enemy, then it probably doesn't work with Imprints.

There's a few odd exceptions out there, such as Ravenous Void that can both random drop and drop from a boss. Imprints should work on this as it can random drop. https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcCYyA

Another oddball is Fractured Crown, which is the only item "crafted" from using Rune of Ascendence on a specific item with specific affixes. Imprints don't work on this as it is not a random drop. https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwJh2BGI

[tight jewel]

Hi guys, I have a question.

I'm in the endgame now, but I'm having trouble understanding the double T7 farming.

I find single T7 items that I can slam onto my uniques, but I can't seem to find double T7s.

I read that the way to farm double T7s is imprinting and doing nemesis tower over and over and also doing Unclaimed Troves.

However, I can't find the following for example: T7 reduced cast speed and T7 chance to chill on hit.

So my question is, do I just keep farming exalts until I find a sceptre with those T7s on (from what I read, this is extremely unlikely to happen)? Or do I just put in a sceptre with T7 reduced cast speed as an imprint and keep farming until I hope a sceptre drops with T7 reduced cast speed and just hope it also has a T7 chance to chill on hit?

I think I'm missing something here, because it isn't clicking. It seems as if you basically have to wait until you get the exalt you need... to then imprint it to then farm the exalt you already have?

[hardy forum]

I'm a beginner, so maybe I'm wrong, but you just need any double T7 sceptre, and then remove the non needed affixes, add your needed ones and hope for rune of havoc to hit the right ones. You can remove affixes by two ways: seal them directly or remove randomly. Sealing is guaranteed on T1 affixes, has a chance on T2 affixes, and practically impssible onT3+

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BevLkVP3qn0JB2by7bpon_VZUQyjt1dJNlTfcGJ0xHI/edit?tab=t.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Sz6uIoISA

this is where I learned this from but never done it so please correct me if im wrong

Does this drop from the boss or only the timeline echo rewards?

[tight jewel]

I see, I understand what to do afterwards in terms of crafting etc.

I'm more not understanding the whole T7 double exalt farming bit.

Like, do I just put in ANY sceptre that has double T7s on it? Because I thought the way it works with all the imprinting nodes on the weaver tree is that the items that will drop are much more likely to drop with the T7 exalts on the item you're imprinting.

So for example, say I have:

Sceptre - T7 Health T7 Lightning damage

But I actually want:

Sceptre - T7 Increased cast speed T7 Chance to chill on hit

Do I just shove in the 1st sceptre and hope I get lucky and get something similar to the exalt I want?

I get the crafting part, but I do not understand how the imprints work. Because right now, all I have is two T7 Increased cast speed, so do I just slot that in and hope double T7s drop with at least that affix on it, then I do the whole seal thing, add in the T5/6/7 I want and havoc it?

[rocky rapids]

also avarice and gambler's fallacy, which aren't technically dropped by a specific enemy but instead recieved as quest rewards

[hardy forum]

ah I don't know. I'm currently imprinting regular uniques in hopes of getting more that has better rolls 😄

can someone please explain how this profecy works? My understanding based on the icons is that:

• Once I kill 3x Exiled Mages ANYWHERE, I get 24x runes of refinement, and I can repeat this 4 times. So I need to slay a total of 12 mages to get 96 runes, and I get 24 after each 3. Did I get that right?

[storm blaze]

Global drop
can drop anywhere

[candid elm]

If it says random drop, it can possibly drop anywhere. Including Rune of Ascendence and Circle of Fortune Prophecies.

The part about

The Black Sun Timeline ("Unique or Set Helmet" echo rewards)
Refers to how in Timelines you can find echoes that have a reward which gives you a random unique/set item of a certain type. Similar to Rune of Ascendence. But it doesn't mean the item is only from there.

[candid elm]

Yes. Every time you complete the event, defeat 3x Exiled Mages, you get the reward. This particular Prophecy can be completed multiple times - the 0/4 Fulfilled at the top.

If you need Boneclamor Barbute unique helmet, you could get that from CoF Prophecies, as it is a random drop. Note that you'd want to to take Unique Helmet Prophecies and not generic Armor Prophecies - which include Helmet, Body Armor, Gloves, Boots, and Belt.

[candid elm]

Yeah and the Soul's Gambler version of those as well. I think the best idea is to look the item up and see if it says Random Drop at the bottom. If it does, then you can Imprint it.

[hardy forum]

yeah, okay, I'll do that! So just so I understand correctly, this one only drops from the mentioned monster which is the boss of the timeline, right?

so in this case, harbinger echos drop it, but for the boneclamor barbute, harbinger echos won't drop it because its not the uniques drop, correct?

[candid elm]

Correct. That's from the Timeline boss. I'd recommend farming for it in Empowered, if possible.

[hardy forum]

yeah, I did and got a ton 😄 so I have like 8pieces now 😄 but from the helm I only have one 😄

thansk, I get it now!

[candid elm]

Well Boneclamor Barbute is a random drop. So it could possibly drop anywhere. Including from a boss. Or from some random enemy.

There's not a specific enemy you have to kill for it. CoF Prophecies and Rune of Ascendence is a good way to get extra unique Helmet random drop chances to try and get it.

And once you have one, you can Imprint it to get more drops.

Oh and for Rune of Ascendence, CoF Rank 2 bonus gives a 45% chance for Rune of Ascendence to not be consumed if you use it on an item that has CoF required on the bottom. So one option is to add a filter for Helmets with CoF required, and use Ascendence on them.

[hardy forum]

okay, so then its not worth running the specific timeline as well for the reward drop 6%? because the other ones you mentioned are far more?

[candid elm]

With you being able to use CoF Prophecies and Rune of Ascendence, generally no. Unless you need to be farming in that Timeline anyway for a Boss drop.

[shut walrus]

there seems to be issues with woven echoes like bugs and stuff

[candid elm]

But if you see one while you're there, sure might as well do it.

[hardy forum]

damn this is such a crucial info! thanks, that's exactly what I'll do

[candid elm]

If you find a bug, please use F8 key in game to report it.

[candid elm]

Many of the CoF Rank bonuses are quite good.

[shut walrus]

ive reported two bugs ages ago and nothing has been done

[hardy forum]

is this the correct setup for the filter?

[candid elm]

Yeah that looks correct. If you have a CoF required Helmet you can drop one on the ground to test

[hardy forum]

I get crazy frame drops when there are a lot of mobs around or lots of charges with lightning blast. Sometimes the frame freezes for like half a second. Anyone knows how to diagnose this issue? I have a 4060Ti 16gb, and a 7900X3D so it should be fine on Very Low 😄

[hardy forum]

thanks, I'll check 😄

[molten compass]

Check temps

Also why a 7900x3d? At that why with a 4060ti?

[hardy forum]

actually just checked, its a 7800 X3d only

I bought it for sim racing as iRacing is very CPU heavy

i have a much bigger problem now. Shift + right click doesn't work to put items into my stash, although shift + right click works to take them out. I have restarted the game. Also, one of my stash categories called "Dump" disappered and merged with my Uniques stash. I have reported so many times problems with my stash, haven't received anything back from devs...

[molten compass]

Sounds like it's isolated to just you for stash stuff so I'd make sure you record yourself playing and then if sometjing happens you can watch it back. Because I merge tabs all the time just clicking around.

[hardy forum]

well

I have it recorded now that I reorganize it and it gets messed up again

it's ridiculous

[blazing glacier]

tbh I've had similar issues fairly often when changing settings / moving / etc. with tabs

move one tab to certain spot and it jumps somewhere else and messes order or something

[molten compass]

I've only noticed it when I'm mass clicking through my tabs, and my mouse is hyper sensative so the game could easily register me clicking and holding if I rest my finger on the wrong part of the button.

[blazing glacier]

It's definitely not a misclick thing, the tab zoops off the screen to the end or whatever. Seems like some issue with like selected tab index or something, or swapping it with another one, maybe last selected tab vs currently selected tab

[faint cape]

Yeah, to me it feels like someone counting from 1 somewhere instead of 0, it always is one off

[hardy forum]

I will try to talk to support becasue my entire stash in unusable atm, and I can't dump the items in

I first noticed it when I duplicated a stash tab instead of creating a new one

i would change the filter on the new one lets say from exalted body armor to exalted boots, and the previous one would alos change

[faint cape]

Hm, that sounds significantly more messed up than I've ever seen. Are you playing offline by chance?

[hardy forum]

yes

here's how it currently looks xd

i can't upload the ful video because its long

so ill upload to YT tomorrow

it's nuts 😄

[faint cape]

Ahh it might be an offline only bug, that sounds very wild

[hardy forum]

you can see on the screen that both the dump32 and the exalts category is selected 😄

do you think if i make my char online it would be solved?

I'm not going to do that now its super late

but maybe tomorrow

because I can't play like this

also, I have another question

I pushed a timeline to 600+ corruption

and I died from 2 out of 6 echoes

then reduced to 550 and died 1/1

so if I don't pay attention, I keep dying

maybe too mcuh playing for me today, but like how do I know I'm at the right Corruption for farming?

[faint cape]

If you swap over to online play, you won't be able to carry any of your characters or stash over, unfortunately - but personally I haven't had any issue nearly that bad in online and I very extensively used the tab duplicating and changing their priorities

[faint cape]

It's mainly a feel thing imo, if you are going fast and don't feel like you're dying too often, you're at a good level

any corruption above 300 is fairly solid

[hardy forum]

yeah, that makes sense

isn't 600 corruption 2x as good as 300?

it says 600%+ item rarity

[hardy forum]

oh that's a bummer.I see it. I thought the "Switch to online" meant I can switch the char 😄

damn now my Body Armor stash tab got renamed to the D1 which is a dump tab I have. Had...

I go to bed now

enough game for today, thanks for all the help guys!

[faint cape]

It depends on what you're going for, xp scales up more slowly from 300 onward, some boss drop rates cap or hit diminishing returns, and increased rarity has its own scaling (it's not known exactly how it scales, but it does have diminishing returns as well)

Definitely if you can go at the same speed in higher corruption, it's always better though

[blazing glacier]

I'm also pretty curious on the rarity thing. If we compare to uniques getting LP it's pretty clear how the increase works.

if we use imprints to compare (which do increase LP with corruption same as normal drops) when we look at T7 imprint -> T7 output corruption seems to make almost zero difference.

Going to guess the normal exalt rules are different than imprints though. 🤷‍♂️

[faint cape]

I think the main or possibly/nearly only benefit to exalts from rarity is just more exalt drops

But I could be basing that off some very outdated info, so I can't say for sure

[blazing glacier]

I think so too, which would track for why rarity doesn't give imprints more t7 but it does give more LP for uniques

[cedar tundra]

which is better?

[molten compass]

In what context?

[cedar tundra]

for javelin paladin

[molten compass]

Probably the left one.

[cedar tundra]

alright thanks

[hardy forum]

I’m at a stage where I have lp1 items from all that I need for now, but I have 0x double T7 exalts, let alone in the affixes I need them. Very few Havoc runes as well. I feel like I should just be clearing maps faster, instead of more drops from mobs, so I’ll go down in corruption a bit.

You said it’s pretty clear how corruption impacts LP. Can you explain please?

[blazing glacier]

Double T7 isn't something that just rains down in normal play, you must target them specifically and grind them.

Yea we know how much LP bonus is given by corruption, and we know which things are affected by corruption or not for LP

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/lp-chance this

[cedar tundra]

should i rush the campaign for idol slots? or should I progress normally

[hardy forum]

Thanks! I watched your Double T7 vid, so I’ll follow that

[blazing glacier]

that is normal progression

[cedar tundra]

oh so i should skip through the monsters?

[blazing glacier]

I mean it really depends. If someone is speed running they would skip a lot, but if you aren't super experienced you will want to kill more monsters so you aren't too weak and underleveled

[desert tree]

Also, it seems to be your first playthrough. So take your time.

There is no rush

[hardy forum]

I'm doing my first playthrough. I just read everything and enjoyed the game. There is no performance here. Just enjoy man

there is no better / worse really. All mistakes you make can be compensated later, and once you get to high corruption you will get so many items you'll run out of stash tabs 😄

[blazing glacier]

yea don't worry about efficiency for first run

[hardy forum]

thanks, this tool is neat. Basically it tell me there is no point in pushing corruption for LP for me. Like going from 13.2% to 13.6% is not worth 2x damage and health for mobs. Seems like Loot Lizards appearance, doesn't scale either, I guess their drops will.

I hope this morning my stash behaves

[blazing glacier]

Up to 300 corruption you get a lot more boost to COF rep and favor gain. Then it slows down

this is important to get R12

Also get more gold, more stability, more random exalts, uniques, etc etc.

[hardy forum]

About Nemesis and Egg. If I have 1x Red Ring of Altaria with 0lp, and I egg it and it gives it a shit affix, does that still work for imprint as an LP1? So it's still better because there is nothing to lose there right? Or should I keep it 0lp?

[blazing glacier]

yes

legendary affix = 1LP

same thing

[hardy forum]

yes which one? 😄

okay so I can't ruin it by egging it?

[blazing glacier]

for sake of imprints, no

[hardy forum]

oh okay 😄

maybe I get lucky too

and for LP is it the same chance as the table?

I mean for nemesis

[blazing glacier]

no, nemesis doesn't care about corr for LP

[hardy forum]

so what are the odds there? As if 0 corruption?

[blazing glacier]

thats also in the table

wait

no it isn't 🤔

Well yeah it would be 0 corr iirc

[hardy forum]

Okay, so 87.6% chance that it gives it an affix?

[blazing glacier]

yep basically

[hardy forum]

and 12.24% that it becomes 1 LP? etc?

damn, now I understand what takes forever here 😄

[blazing glacier]

yea RR is slow

[desert tree]

Unless you are like me and get lucky with your RR 🍀😅
Got it within 200k favor, maxrolled and 1lp on first Nemesis and got the imprint on the same day

[blazing glacier]

damn

[desert tree]

And I wasnt even looking for it, was trying to get 1-2lp oceareon

Sometimes lucky 🍀

[hardy forum]

yeah, I got lucky with the first drop. I just have so many things to imprint idk what to imprint really xd And red ring is not even for my build per @blazing glacier's guide 😄 there is a variant it is needed for, but I just wanna get 2x 😄

@blazing glacier I wanted to ask you something about specifically the lightning blast build. If the damage feels insane but tankiness is low, should I go into the T8 belt variant with no primordial items or vilatria instead? It seems like if I take my helmet off which is just a SET base Vilatria crown, my tooltip dps counter drops to 1/4th of it's original value. I don't have the Boneclamor helmet with +4 lightning blast and spell damage, but even if I wear the normal exalt with the T7 +4 LB, it's still only 1/4th on the counter, even with the T8 belt. Idk if I should believe the tooltip DPS counter

and if I unequip the Legends Entwined ring, I lose so many + on my skills it doesn't seem worth it

it seems like it doesn't matter that much for normal clearing because most damage comes from the spark charge explosion anyways from enigma. Maybe boss clears will be slower at 1/4th the dps.

[cedar tundra]

which is better for paladin multistrike judgement?

[desert tree]

None

Ill keep Grim Constitution though

[cedar tundra]

alright thankss

[hardy forum]

If I die after conquering an echo, do I still lose the rewards?

so if I go into an ancient rift or tomb after finishing the main quest

[desert tree]

No, you are safe

[cedar tundra]

when i respec my 20 poiints in sentinel do i lose it all or do i gain back my 20 points

[hardy forum]

thanks!

[hardy forum]

you gain back all of them

[cedar tundra]

So i just respec all?

[hardy forum]

wait

passive or skill?

[cedar tundra]

Passive

Like the paladin mastery and all that

[hardy forum]

yeah, I usually do it by points

you can respec points one by one

and respec the specialization, like if you no longer want to be paladin spec

that costs a lot of gold

[cedar tundra]

Really?

How much

Did it cost u

[hardy forum]

it depends on the level

it said like 450k at 80 ish

but point by point to do something else is dirt cheap

[cedar tundra]

Oh alright

Might just do that

[fallen parcel]

Respec a full mastery change is like 1 million gold but honestly there isn't a lot of stuff where I can spend the gold I have so its ok

[storm blaze]

It still depends on the level
it only starts going to like 600k+ at lvl 90 or so

[fallen parcel]

Well at level 100 its a 1 mill easy

Like in others game affected by level

[storm blaze]

Yeah
And by lvl 100 you probably easily have 1mill
unless you're constantly respeccing or spending all the money in the dungeon

[fallen parcel]

I have too much gold anyways ty to gold affecting bones🤣

[hardy forum]

Imprint drop chance is correlated with item rarity drop? So if I imprint the red ring, I’ll get much fewer triggers on the imprint vs. imprinting a fairly common unique?

does this count as a double T7 exalt for imprinting to drop more double T7s? 😄

[tight jewel]

Hey all, could someone help me with this question, please?

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[hardy forum]

I think the whole point is to get more of the same item, so you get more chances in slamming.

If you have a 2LP item, and a double T7 exalt, you can only select one affix to go there guaranteed, the second T7 affix only has a 33% chance afaik.

Also, the chance of getting the same affix rolled is extremely low. So you need a lot of double T7s and lots of rune of havoc, to get the right duble T7s to slam.

https://youtu.be/P4B3IXi9GPI?t=299&si=E19u9TRft_jf_HDq

This video answers your question at 4;59 I think

Have you watched this video? I’ve sent it to you yesterday as well and it has all the answers

Actually i’m also listening to that video again probably for like the fourth time, and it seems like it’s very important where your T7 a fixes are

Is the one you want a 7x/7x?

Or a 7x/x7?

So what you actually want is an opposite double T7, with a third T1 and an open one

Because once the imprint procs, it keeps T7s in the wrong spots, and gives you a T1 in the right spot which you can seal down 100% chance

So you only have to pray that the open slot stays open, or that it’s the right one you need

[tight jewel]

Yeah I watched it, but this is the one thing I can't seem to find an answer for or I'm misunderstanding.

Say I have the following item to imprint (has the wrong affixes):

T7 Melee fire damage
X
T7 Chance to ignite on hit
X

So I put that in the imprint, will the T7s REROLL to something usable that I actually need?

I know I can seal off a T1 affix and I can Havoc etc, I'm only on about the above question 🙂

OR, will the imprint more than likely drop the T7s that is on the imprint?

[hardy forum]

"will the T7s REROLL to something usable that I actually need" - yes, but they will remain in the same spot!

a) means it stays 7x/7x

b) means it rerolls the tier as well, but T7 has a 30% of staying T7

b) means that 2x T7s each have a separate 30%, so 30%x30% is 9%

b) also means that a T6 has a 1% chance of becoming T7 I think? not sure, but he says in the video that upgrading is very unlikely

c) means affixes reroll their type - this is the answer to your question I think. I don't know how rare your affixes are, but he says in the video that a T7 int is very unlikely to become a T7 int after the imprint. So it's actually better to have a 1o/77 imprint, and then move the two 7s to the other side with havoc, instead of imprinting a 77/1o and praying you get int. Because if you don't you have to move the 7s out of the way, seal an affix, and then roll them back.

Basically if you have your first 2xT7 item, just imprint it

and you get all kinds of 2xT7 drops from the same

and then you can havoc the T7s around to be in a better spot and reimprint

[blazing glacier]

To be honest the normal build is more than tanky enough to do 1000c without much issue, even without crazy gear. If you find yourself dying often you are probably missing some other things.

Part of the survivability is just being ranged and high damage / cast speed / mobility, and not being hit often when you kill stuff before it hits you, but also you can generate a lot of ward.

Some defense comes from INT, you get ward from Runic Invocation / ward retention from int. You get ward per cast from Twisted Heart, as long as you are leeching life to convert, etc. You get damage reduction from armor, which you get a lot from blessings and a bit more from gear. You can use T7 armor + crit reduction affix on belt instead of lightning damage. You can use RR for more defense in echos instead of ferebor, etc.

You will lose a lot going T8 belt, I wouldn't recommend. You could go T7 LB praetorian belt or something and still keep a lot of damage with some defense stuff. You could slam health affix somewhere for more relic conversion, etc. You could even swap passives around to drop a bit of damage for more defense, if you want.

Also, no, the tooltip DPS is very inaccurate for this build. The LB tooltip doesn't care about Spark Charges or the Armor Shred, or Lightning Shred you can apply, etc. etc.

[blazing glacier]

The chance of the imprint dropping you an item that has the affixes you want on it are basically zero. There's some nuance here, like seals transferring the affix and tier you want but that gets really complicated to make a good base so don't worry about that.

So basically you don't craft on the first 2T7 you get, you never craft on your only 2T7 on a given base type, or you could brick yourself and need to go farm more nemesis tower or whatever.

You can incrementally get better imprint bases, you don't need the perfect base on first try. Sometimes you imprint "okay" base, then imprint procs and you make "good" base from that.

But yep. Generally you'd want to prioritize the tiers above the affixes. And you want to be able to craft what you want without needing to Rune of Removal gamble

[hardy forum]

yeah, makes sense. I think one of the things I'm missing is not using R skill enough because that boosts wards too. So many times I was just holding down the mouse keys in a big fight and get slammed for a 3k hit because I forgot about my wards 😄 I'm trying the amber farm with the 5 cemeteries + 1 booster woven echo in the middle, clearing them easily with 350c, and I played aroud with my items enough to have a decent "tanky just running around" build. Currently rocking the Barbute helmet with +4 LB, and a red ring + carcinization combo, so I'm pretty fast. Will see, thanks a lot

[blazing glacier]

Tbh you should probably have at least 6 or 7k stable ward in combat with 1LP gear, only going below when you take a lot of damage

The version I use now doesnt even use Twisted Heart and just Runic alone keeps me above 6k

[hardy forum]

yeah I get it now. It's all in the Runic invocation 😄 I forgot to use that and kept it only as a backup against damage

lol

now I have constant 5-6k ward

yeah vilatria helm is just so much better. Instant clear everything 😄

[cedar tundra]

whats so good about temporal sanctum dungeon?

[sonic quail]

let's say your item has Legendary Potential or LP (in short term) ,

when you kill the boss, you will go to area where you can change unique items to legendary items

legendary items have more affixes than unique ones so it is for end-game builds

[cedar tundra]

i see

[hardy forum]

I really like your idea @blazing glacier to do a forging timeline with all the woven echos. What would be the recommended corruption for that?

[blazing glacier]

Enough to put all the echos you want down, for tower farm I believe you want more corruption for exalts, I think everything else doesn't matter.

Could do two separate timelines I guess

[hardy forum]

does nemesis have a higher chance of double T7 on higher corruption?

[faint cape]

Nemesis outcomes for non-uniques are improved by corruption, but I'm not sure exactly how. So probably yes.

[hardy forum]

thank you!

[tight jewel]

Thank you! That first sentence answered exactly what I was looking for. I was so confused if I had to have the two T7 affixes I want already to then imprint it. But now I know I don't!

Thanks for all the other info as well, really helps!

[gaunt igloo]

Does the naals tooth make raptors deal 46% less damage or take 46% less damage

Seen somebody dual wielding them

[storm blaze]

they deal less damage

Not sure why you'd dualwield them

[desert tree]

If you are not playing Raptors, its a great weapon to dw

[tight jewel]

Do you get more memory amber if your corruption is higher? Like when I do Lostwood Folly surrounded by False Temples etc, is it better to do it on a much higher corruption level?

Or doesn't it make a difference?

[hardy forum]

I think so. According to @blazing glacier's video, he was getting around 3.6k-4k amber per run at 1k C. I got around 2k at 600C

[hardy forum]

when we do this, can we still get procs from imprint at the end of echo? or that's not available for woven echos?

[blazing glacier]

I don't think its higher.

[hardy forum]

well, I got 2k 😄 maybe I don't remember the numbers correctly

[blazing glacier]

That or some other factor, but I didn't see a difference from corruption

[hardy forum]

Seems like I got my first proc on my 2xT7 imprint, here is what the imprinted item was, and what I got. Should I change anything about my imprint, or just bad luck?

[blazing glacier]

This is normal. Each T7 has a high chance to become not T7. You lost prefix a couple times and suffix a couple times

2t7 chance = keep prefix t7 chance * keep suffix t7 chance.

[hardy forum]

yeah, so 30% * 30% right? which would be 9% if my math is correct. So 1 out of 10 items. I got 4 now. On to the next one 😄

[gaunt igloo]

You right didnt see the skills the person specced in

[desert tree]

Its an amazing Melee Companion Sword

Arguably a bit too strong

[gaunt igloo]

Yea lol was looking into rolling a minion build for the next couple of weeks

[hardy forum]

I have the following legendary, with a T6 int, because I didn't have a T7 at the time. Now I have successfully gotten another LP1. Which one makes most sense?
a) craft T7 int into it
b) craft something else like crit multi and A/B test which one is stronger
c) turtle it to get a potential LP2 or LP0 and then nemesis again.

oh, extra context, I found another LP1 and an LP2 in my stash, but don't have double T7 exalt to craft that yet, I think I'll need many more LP2s to succeed 😄

[golden karma]

if rolls are needed, good rolled lp1 > bad rolled lp2;
otherwise lp2 could be better if you move not-useless mods
also u can use "bricked" lp1/lp2 after nemesis to reroll existing ones

[blazing glacier]

Your current one has 5% conversion, that is hurting your ward generation a lot.

First step is getting a really good 1LP with 16 int, 8% conversion, and ideally high cast speed.

2LP is rare enough that you probably have other things worth prioritizing first