❔┃ask-the-community

[blazing umbra]

Yeah upon boss kill

I don't think streamlining it to that extent would be good for the game, but it can happen for mats at the very least

[dusty dust]

I want to try LP work, I know Tier 2 sanctum gives guranteed so I want thart. Playing HC, full res lvl 70, doable? or need to be higher? raptor buidl

[candid elm]

You'll have to do Tier 1 first, which is lower area level 55. So see what you think. If you've never done the fight before, note you'll need to use the dungeon mechanic button to avoid the boss's big attack.

If you find that Tier 1 is ok, Tier 2 is area level 80.

[dusty dust]

awesome, i done on sc, few times, so feel comfortable.

also, what is mechanic behind uncapped. e.g. +1 ward per second for every uncapped physical resistance.
does that mean If I have 0 phys res, I get 75 ward per sec up to 0 at 75+ phys res?

[candid elm]

Uncapped just means total. If you have over 75 Res, uncapped is listed under the 75 in parentheses.

If it instead said Overcapped, that would be just what's above 75. As in number in parentheses minus 75.

[lone furnace]

what is the point of posessed nemisis?

[candid elm]

I think it's mostly the guaranteed chance for Nemesis in Tombs and Cemeteries if you put in 3 points. Possessed gives the enemy extra abilities and they can drop Memory Amber, maybe also drop Weaver idols?

[nimble bolt]

Can you use both convergence and divergence in the lightning blast tree? Will divergence just give the spell a flat damage buff when used in conjunction with divergence or does it end up being a waste of a perk point

[calm schooner]

does the "chance to bleed on hit" apply to my minions?

[meager frost]

why wont this sidequest end

[candid elm]

No, it would need to say Minion Chance to Bleed on Hit

[meager frost]

it just reruns the same dialogue

[calm schooner]

thank you

[candid elm]

Unless you have an item or passive that says otherwise

[calm schooner]

like what?

[candid elm]

For example, Falcon has some nodes that let it use your stats

[calm schooner]

does necromancer have anything?

[faint cape]

Not much. There's the lethal concentration spear for skele rogues, pretty much it.

[calm schooner]

thanks

[candid elm]

Yeah there's one in Bone Golem to let it use your Health Regen, but I don't think that's something you'd really build for

[meager frost]

?

[median idol]

The Weaver's Web Champion Colosseum is ticking me off. I've died in it like 80 times in the last hour. I just want to beat it once and get the skill point, but the enemies keep instant killing me

[faint cape]

It gets bugged out sometimes, idk why. Nothing you can do afaik.

[meager frost]

sometimes as in like indefinitely?

[candid elm]

It gives you Gambler's Fallacy unique. You could just skip it https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsEYGZiA

[faint cape]

As in for some characters

[meager frost]

i just want the indicator gone 😭

[faint cape]

but yeah, just gotta ignore that quest until it gets fixed sadly

[candid elm]

In the past, you had to pick between Avarice https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMoZlI
and Gambler's Fallacy, but then they moved Gambler's Fallacy there so you could get both

[faint cape]

Please bug report with F8, maybe it will help them figure out why

[candid elm]

M key to open map, in upper left you can unpin the quest as it's all optional blue quest

That will hide it unless you want to pin it again

[meager frost]

@candid elm scam shit

[calm schooner]

What does this node do?
It says Wraiths appear at the target location, assuming it means where I have the mouse cursor, but it already did that.
So I'm confused why it is specifying that part here.

[dusty dust]

Should I wait until lv 90 to do emp mono at lvl100?

[calm schooner]

I went into it with my blind HC character at 86 and was fine. The level and 100 corruption didn't make any notable difference.
I expected to get one tapped too, seeing the 14 lv gap.

[west nexus]

So is the main story finished as of current patch? Rn I'm at the || dragons timeline monolith || . Also, idk how to increase corruption, haven't done any of the dungeons (lightless arbor etc) and all those shenanigans

[calm schooner]

Question 1:
IDK

Question 2:

• reach Empowered Monoliths
• gain enough Stability to fight the Harbinger, gain Gaze of Orobyss
• search for the Echo of a World node to fight Shade of Orobyss
• get corruption (optimally come with 4 Gaze of Orobyss for maximum corruption gain)
• repeat

[west nexus]

Thanks 👍 😇. I still got more stuff to do then

[storm blaze]

We are still missing 2 chapters of tve story

[west nexus]

Nice 😬

Any news when's next season coming? Had a lot of fun playing fire minion necromancer till now. Transitioned to a wraithlord build yesterday

Also fun

[storm blaze]

Next season is either in december or january

[calm spire]

Best is to raise corruption as high as you want in 1 timeline only. There’s a trick to speed recap the other timelines for fast increase of corruption. And chose a timeline that drops gear needed for your build

[storm blaze]

The trick being if one has like 40 corruption higher (or more) it spawns the shade of orobyss echo after you clear one echo
and you'll get back to almost as high corruption as the highest you've on that character

[calm spire]

Was going to post that, thx for letting me off easy 😎

[deep moon]

only 2? it feels like there could be twice as many - coz our character got involved in so many events without finishing them.

[storm blaze]

dude
nobody would play through campaign that's 20 chapters long

or well
most people wouldn't

[deep moon]

that's why we need better shortcuts 😎 also, i'm sure that statement is plain wrong. i know i would.
anyway, shortcuts: didn't take any myself, but it seems they're pointless since i'd have to go back for skill points and idol slots anyway? that's what i mean by "better".

[storm blaze]

You want more story just so you can skip more
okay

[floral finch]

where do i find the list for which timelines have specific monsters?

[desert tree]

Not really for the second part
Since now dungeon gives 2 passives and 1'idol slot, you can chain dungeon, do a few side quests in between and finish act 9 and 10 with everything

[deep moon]

woah, okay, this is useful info! thank you. "a few side quests" - for points and slots or just for xp?

[storm blaze]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/bestiary

[desert tree]

For extra passives and idols

There are more quests given passives and idols than what you need

So you can adapt your route through the campaign

[calm spire]

15 idols and 8 passives right ?

What exactly does the Farsight Turtle provide ?

[desert tree]

Grief and Sorrow

You take lp items, put them in the turtle
The lp gets rerolled

[calm spire]

And usual to 0LP ?

[desert tree]

If its inferior or equal to the current lp > comes out with no lp

If its strictly superior to the current lp > you keep the new roll

[calm spire]

2 rolls ?

[desert tree]

You cannot put a 0lp item in the turtle

[calm spire]

I meant it got down to 0 if unlucky

Or is that the gauntlet ?

[desert tree]

You cannot put a 0lp item in the turtle

[calm spire]

I understand! Im talking about the reroll

[desert tree]

Correct

[calm spire]

And gauntlet rerolls the entire item with an addition that you sacrifice an LP-wise equal item ?

[icy drift]

Correct

[desert tree]

It doesn't reroll the lp number though

[calm spire]

So if i have 10 LP1’s i have better odds in Turtle?

[desert tree]

Just to be clear

[icy drift]

Considering turtle is the only way to reroll lp, yes

[calm schooner]

Do we have a tooltip to show the numerical values (damage, HP, crit chance, etc) of our minions?
Pressing Alt only shows the % gained by Intelligence and levels.

[calm spire]

Gauntlet if you have bricked slams and corresponding unslammed LP’s with stats to gamble

This helped a lot guys, thx

Imprint gave 15 LP1’s, visit the turtle

Good LP , bad stats . Gamble at gauntlet but sacrifice

Awesome

[desert tree]

No

Maybe one day

[crystal jackal]

which woven echo is used to shatter set items into crafting mats?

[calm spire]

Bridge

[calm schooner]

Thank you 🙂

[crystal jackal]

was that an answer to my question?

[calm spire]

Yeah, i think its the lower left in you inventory

[icy drift]

Yes it's called the great bridge

[floral finch]

is there something going on with prophecies? i can't get it to proc

[icy drift]

What's the condition

[floral finch]

immortal eyes in monos have killed maybe 20+ 6 reguired

[icy drift]

Iirc there's a different enemy that looks extremely similar to an immortal eye but isn't or something. Make sure you're finding them in one of these timelines and that they're actually called immortal eyes

And that you have enough corruption if that's a requirement

Imperial watchers I think are the other enemy

[storm wren]

#🎥┃video-shoutout message

Gold buff = ancient bone's booster? Appeciate the info so much, but I feel a bit odd on more golds = more bones... 🤔

[meager junco]

🦆 ⌨️ looks like gold is gold

[crystal jackal]

is there any way to increase the odds of getting the set shatter echo?

[calm spire]

Buy the woven echo in silk town (weaver faction rank high enough) then use cemetary to place it

That’s the fastest way

But rest assured one will spawn right after above procedure has been done

[desert tree]

Buy it, and imprint it?

[calm spire]

I thought he just needed one to spawn as you can shatter multiple times

[desert tree]

3 times for some reason

[wicked sierra]

how do I kill the bone prire with reflect ? XD

[desert tree]

Shield seems to be up, you 'need to kill the guardian first

And then wait?? I guess

[wicked sierra]

I got him instantly, might be be bugged?

the other spire seemed to work normally

it worked after i cleared the other spire first, maybe the guardian of this spire spawned near other spire

[desert tree]

Maybe

Reflect do weird stuff

[calm spire]

Yeah same thing happened to me yesterday. I didn’t notice the kill so tried 10-15 times to activate it

Was no sound from the mage either. Just a dud kinda

[calm spire]

I think i might have activated it with leap-click (mouse1)and bear insta killed it. The prison was left intact

[blazing umbra]

I think I've seen a couple of people mentioning this in the past

Killing champion too quick I mean

[storm bay]

is it normal that some animations seem to be having lower frames than the game is running at? (like, the little spriggans "spray and pray" attack for the new content for example seems to be at 30 fps even tho the game itself and other animations are running at 60)

[deep moon]

i'm looking at my Primalist's legs and it feels like they move in 30fps too. like there's no keyframe interpolation.

[storm wren]

@calm schooner Is it the only champion who will appear in campaigns in your experience or you have meet another types of champions? (when you below lv 20)

[calm schooner]

I don't remember.

[storm wren]

By the way that's too comfortable to run a game over 60+ fps after I have to accept less than 40 fps always in poe 2

Glad to know it's not my GPU issue

But I don't know why the ping isn't sync....It cause the game quite laggy

[blazing umbra]

Damn, kirra on paladin

[knotty abyss]

Hi there! I have a problem where my game stutters a lot on the loading screen, and doesn't start the game at all from there. Do you guys know where or how i can get support for this?

[desert tree]

Step 1, verify Files
Step 2 reboot

Step 3 try messing with the graphic settings

If it doesn't work

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[calm schooner]

"Have you tried turning it off and on?" 😄

[knotty abyss]

Thank you! I’ve already done steps 1-3 a couple of times. Tried ticking the setting in Nvidia and Norton antivirus as well

[desert tree]

Then support I guess

[calm schooner]

• GPU drivers up to date?
• Tried reinstalling yet?

[knotty abyss]

Yep just updated my Nvidia geforce an hour ago, then rebooted

[calm schooner]

I'd also delete and reinstall the GPU drivers if problem persists after reinstaling the game

[knotty abyss]

I’m gonna try this

[calm spire]

yeah. today eu-west has a ping of 111ms

usually it's around 30

that's why game is so chop chop today

it was somehow changed to us east

[tacit onyx]

last week there was an internet cable damage but most likely it was fixed by now.

maybe purge dns and make sure you use cloudflare or google dns

[tacit onyx]

only on this game? you tried any other?

[calm spire]

nah. somehow my server selection was changed

[knotty abyss]

Oh yeah mate it did work! Not sure why I needed to uninstall and reinstall tho, but that method did work

[calm schooner]

ez

[knotty abyss]

Thanks mate @calm schooner I appreciate it

[knotty abyss]

Yeah a lot of my previous mods in Civ6 didn’t work as well. Now they are

[tacit onyx]

something very weird, my pc speakers dont sound the same as when i played a replay on my phone. my phone was giving me more / different sound than the one on pc

[calm spire]

even with normal ping. game feels so laggy today

[neon zephyr]

hi guys, where do i check my corruption level?

[calm spire]

in a timeline . click the stone to pick an echo...upper left

or timeline map...visible under each timeline

[neon zephyr]

so right when i start empowered, i should have 100?

[calm spire]

yes

[neon zephyr]

great ty!

[calm spire]

example

[neon zephyr]

oh so it's based on the rune?

[calm spire]

rune ?

[neon zephyr]

sry map

[calm spire]

no...the purple text under the timeline is displaying empowered corruption

[neon zephyr]

got it! ty

[candid elm]

It's also listed in the upper left when you're looking at a Monolith's / Timeline's echo web

[calm spire]

ahh. that's the perfect wording for what i first tried to explain 😄

[candid elm]

The Corruption is separate by Monolith/Timeline and by character. Although there's a catch up mechanic where if you have a Timeline with higher Corruption, when you're in a Timeline with lower Corruption you'll see a bonus Corruption listed on the Shade echo.

[molten lark]

I swear I've seen the Ziggurat show up under 20 once or twice?? I could be totally wrongo on that tho

[storm wren]

under lv 20 is an extreme case. It still influence a lot after lv 20 I bet

[crystal jackal]

does that green + sign mean I can get a skill point if I complete it+

[meager frost]

how do i swap builds if i lose my points on my skills?

[calm spire]

you get those skillpoints back pretty fast

[blazing glacier]

Yes

[candid elm]

1+ points, yes, some of the later woven echoes give more. On the Weaver tree page, you can mouse over the X / 53 number at the bottom and it will give your a list of what you're missing.

Unfortunately when you're looking at what Masque is selling in Haven of Silk, it doesn't include the green plus sign. But you can mouse over the woven echoes and at the bottom of the text description if it's greyed out then you've completed it for the point(s).

[calm spire]

fingers crossed

[candid elm]

Just keep playing, the Skill levels up as you earn XP. You'll also get an increased minimum Skill Level over time. Around character level 75-ish you'll have minimum Skill Level 10 and level 20 Skills, although you can go past 20 with +Skill items.

[calm spire]

every belt lost the LP1 to LP0

lovely

[lyric bramble]

🥚 🙏

[candid elm]

Yeah, throw them into Nemesis Egg and get more LP 1+ copies to try again.

[calm spire]

i guess the rng to succeed to up the LP with tortoise is very slim

[blazing glacier]

To my knowledge its the same as anywhere else, minus not working with corruption. Just seems worse because if it doesn't go up it goes to 0

[calm spire]

aha. so it's either up or down....not left as is as well

gotcha

[calm spire]

nemesis tower brought the beef @blazing glacier

average rolls tho

[meager frost]

elp

[molten lark]

Confirming I found a Ziggurat of Ruin at 15, just on my way to go get Best Amulet.

[calm spire]

i have noticed that the beer bottles isn't located on the ground where they are displayed

[abstract hill]

how long is this season running

[calm spire]

dec/jan is guessed

[candid elm]

Pick any that sound useful. You can change it by running the boss again. That's a good way to think of Blessings, as a piece of gear you change by either fighting the boss again or using the Blessing respec NPC in End of Time town

Also later once you reach Empowered you'll replace all the regular Blessings with Grand versions. So whatever regular Blessings you get now don't matter all that much

[candid elm]

3-4 months probably. For reference, Season 2 released April 17 and Season 3 released August 21. So about 4 months for Season 2 length.

[calm spire]

What harbinger drops fire res blessing ?

or timelineboss*

[storm wren]

spirits of fire

[calm spire]

Thx

Need to up fire to atleast 75%

[hallow yarrow]

Question.....Does the Rule of the Simoon fire tornadoes mitigate the void beam on Erasing Strike. I ask because as soon as I equipped the Simoon the void beam stopped.

[calm spire]

lol i got a 75% fire res instantly

way over capped now instead

[faint cape]

They are totally unrelated unless you found a bug

[hallow yarrow]

Kind of what I was thinking. I'm going to test it come more.

[calm spire]

lvl 100 is max isn't it ?

[storm blaze]

yes

[calm spire]

then why ?

[faint cape]

Funzies

[storm blaze]

why not?
you'll get the "level" and nothing extra from it

[calm spire]

every other arpg stops giving exp after capped

OCD kicks in

[storm blaze]

Yeah, it'd be nice if it stopped

Though not like I've even played to lvl 100

[calm spire]

and timeline boss/ harbinger kills still give those 1000xp signs

hehe

[rocky rapids]

I think it’s primarily due to the fact that exp is tied to favor gain and so if you stopped earning exp you would stop earning favor

if you fill up the box all the way it just puts you back at the beginning

[calm spire]

if level 100 then

at lvl100 exp could be a fixed variable

[storm wren]

@calm spire @calm schooner I guess it's something you will interest in playing, bingo cards of le.
#news message

[calm spire]

why is that ?

[storm wren]

Just many fun challenges

Like getting a CM to talk about food 🤭

These bingo cards can help you to learn the game with multiple clear goals and connect with the community better.

If be seriously.

[shut walrus]

hey can someone explain to me why endurance makes you tankier? thanks

[icy drift]

Endurance reduced the damage you take by the endurance stat while your health is less than your Endurance threshold.

So for example let's say you have:

1000 hp
50% endurance
500 endurance threshold

If you take a 1000 damage hit:

First you'd take 500 damage, bringing you to your endurance threshold of 500

Then your endurance would reduce the remaining 500 damage by 50%, resulting in 250 damage.

As a result you only take 750 damage and survive with 250hp to spare

[shut walrus]

okay so I have 4096 health and this

[icy drift]

Endurance does not work for ward or damage taken to mana (by default)

[icy drift]

Yeah so any damage you take while under 1311hp is reduced by 53%

So your last 1311 hp is worth an effective 3049 hp

[shut walrus]

oh cool thanks 🙂

[acoustic jackal]

I have 60% endurance and „capped“ endurance threshold as lich - 3250 halved by corrupted form - what would that be (health fully covered)

[icy drift]

There's no cap on endurance threshold

Do you mean that your threshold is higher than your max hp?

If so just divide your hp by 0.4 to get your effective hp

[acoustic jackal]

Yes!

[acoustic jackal]

Thanx!

[icy drift]

3250hp completely covered under 60% endurance is worth 8125 hp

Before any other mitigation

[acoustic jackal]

The hp is halved by a passive so 1625

[icy drift]

4063

[acoustic jackal]

That’s not too bad, i guess 😅

[shut walrus]

whats the +1 to rogue skills relic called?

i forget :/

[acoustic jackal]

Gambit of an erased rogue or something like that

[shut walrus]

it doesnt come with Legendary potential>

?

[acoustic jackal]

It‘s a weavers will item

[shut walrus]

ohhh

[acoustic jackal]

It will roll affixes randomly

[shut walrus]

whats a good relic to slam for rogue? thats what im trying to find

[icy drift]

Depends on your build

[shut walrus]

im a shadow cascade bladedancer

[acoustic jackal]

Depends on the build, i guess
I have to apologize, I have no clue abt any rogue builds 😅

[shut walrus]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Big_Mike69/character/Blade_Mikey

[icy drift]

I mean I'd say shattered worlds but that might be too pricey lol

[calm spire]

Got a few in me stash 😈

Is he MG ?

Could perhaps team up if CoF and trade after kill?

[shut walrus]

can you raise the tier of experimental affixes?

[faint cape]

Ones below T5 can get hit by +1 from crit crafts if you're lucky, but generally the way you change their tier is by shuffling tiers with havocs

[half fractal]

Will the expansion be paid? I have a vague memory that I don't know if it's correct that the devs said the game would be a one-time buy and wouldn't have any content other than paid cosmetics, but I'm not sure and it's been a long time, I don't know if they changed their mentality or if they never said that lol

[toxic echo]

There is no answer.

This was said before yes. As are "they are flexible".

So...depends on how much trust you have in LE and your opinion on paid/not paid expansions

While generic and generally unofficial, and also years old. These are a few answers found on discord search.

Obv things change tho. Old plans and opinions have to change with reality.

But currently the devs have given no answers about LE:O

[valid iris]

anyone have a spreadsheet for glyph of despair sealing?

[calm spire]

Question is tho..
Is cosmetics enough to manage the payroll ?

[toxic echo]

Tunklabs has a sim for it

[toxic echo]

You arent gonna get an answer to that here. Lol

[blazing umbra]

Kinda wonder how this is holding up given today's announcement

[toxic echo]

Aint no one know

[blazing umbra]

Like, how much of it applies, in what areas

[toxic echo]

Idk.

Its all old stuff

[calm spire]

I wasn’t expecting one either

[toxic echo]

And as i said. Plans change with time

[blazing umbra]

I don't mind it in the slightest if it's just a boatload of content with a price label

But still curious about the path they've taken with this

You might wanna add to that post what mike just said about it being post s4

bet a ton of people will ask

[fallow socket]

is it me or mobs are stuttering since last patch?

[cerulean breach]

@round portal Would you mind sharing here or privately this "secret area in chapter 1 with dungeon keys"? I have found nothing anywhere about this.

[icy drift]

There's no such thing

[cerulean breach]

Figured it was too good to be true.

[blazing umbra]

Iirc something similar was discussed

maybe it was mike throwing ideas on stream

[candid elm]

Here's the page Eagles mentioned https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/seal-chance
Exalted item with 4 affixes is guaranteed to Seal a T1 affix

[valid iris]

thank you! i managed to find it

[calm spire]

Why is it only 84% on a rare item with 4 affixes, makes no sense that it’s 105% on a similar exalted

[cunning canyon]

does anyone of you have frame/stuttering issues after the recent patch from today? evade/minion movement looks absolut garbage after the "issues" triggers?!

[bold adder]

try checking files, a few people that had that fixed it like that

[teal ibex]

when you pop shadow daggers, do damage modifiers to the skill that applies the 4th stack also apply to the daggers hit?

[bold adder]

as far as I'm aware, shadow daggers are a "skill" onto itself

[rocky rapids]

no.

[teal ibex]

despite the stacks being counted as an ailment?

[rocky rapids]

shadow daggers do not inherit more multipliers

[teal ibex]

it doesn't behaive like ignite or whatever

oh i see. the damage comes from a bespoke skill

so it doesn't matter where the 4th stack comes from

[rocky rapids]

yeah spark charges are the same, but spark charges have a couple things that do interact with them

they both exist in a bit of a weird space because they’re an ailment that procs a subskill

[bold adder]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they can proc Falcon marks tho

[teal ibex]

that makes sense since falcon mark is a debuff on the enemy

[bold adder]

yeah, but generally you have a hit to apply the shadow dagger stack, so there's probably some really funky timing going on there for that to happen

well I guess smoke bomb can apply it

[teal ibex]

smoke bomb applies them without hitting

yeah

[rocky rapids]

ye they’re also buffed by doom

[bold adder]

I just mentioned this cause I did notice them proc randomly while I was doing spear SD on falconer, and I was applying SD stacks through puncture alone

[hallow yarrow]

We already paid. We brought the game. In the past games that have continued to display greed over customer happiness have suffered with a short life span. There is 1 thing that matters above all else and that is customer satisfaction.

[molten lark]

I dunno, that's basically Blizz' entire MO and it's seemed to do pretty well by them, to the point that they are now re-releasing WoW and pulling subs back for it

[south ivy]

so what's in the expansion?

[hallow yarrow]

My thought is that if they were to release the game onto a new platform then they should pay to play it like everyone else but that should not impact the people that already paid for the game.

[molten lark]

Time will tell, all we can really do is wait and see whether for release time or an answer.

[faint cape]

They haven't revealed much, but seems to me like chapters 11 & 12 plus the encounter with the final "big bad guy" of the game

[south ivy]

That would be cool

[molten lark]

Finally gonna go to 1999 and fight Lavos. Pretty hype

[loud hamlet]

Saw the trailer and I'm kind of confused. what's new for the expansion? It mentions the existing classes, specializations, endgame, and doesn't show any new environments either

[sonic saddle]

It's literally just advertising that the game is coming to ps5, don't consider it a proper update trailer

[cunning canyon]

this, case closed.

[loud hamlet]

weird to call it an Expansion Announcement then, but ok

[blazing umbra]

It is an expansion announcement

You're confusing it with a trailer

All they're doing is announcing it

[calm spire]

Will parties across platforms be possible ?

[paper magnet]

It’s Expanding the playerbase to console owners

[south ivy]

got em

[loud hamlet]

no. usually announcements have literally anything that teases info is my point

I'm not asking for them to reveal everything

[blazing umbra]

We know the story wraps up, we hear orobyss' voice, safe to speculate they want to wrap up the main campaign with this, alongside anything else it brings

I'd say it's enough info for an announcement

this is a very much "it's in the title" type of situation

[loud hamlet]

I think it's an agree to disagree situation 😅

[sonic crater]

If I buy something from the ancient era, for example this one:
I'm at the mercy of rng or is there a way to reroll or make this better?

asking because my luck is often just ass :D

[faint cape]

Buying additional copies gets you new rolls, and then there's also the gauntlet of strife which lets you sacrifice copies for more reroll chances

the roll isn't mega critical to just get started

[fallen hull]

Is the new expansion for free? Or like d4 we need to pay for it?

[hallow yarrow]

I rolled one with Leg potential then bought another. Then smashed it.

[sonic crater]

am new so I dont know about it, but I buy another and if it's "bad" too then I just combine them into a new one?

[livid sapphire]

Strife is used to upgrade an item you already have by rerolling its properties with an exact copy

which is what i think you're asking

And that has to match LP#

[sonic crater]

I see

[livid sapphire]

So it's fine if you got another, and it can always be upgraded

[sonic crater]

Yea I just got to buy my first one, I think its decently rolled

for now at least

[livid sapphire]

You can reroll the rolls

with strife

I have like 42 Jocelyn daggers

[hallow yarrow]

I get that. I was there too. So the dungeon Temporal Sanctum at the and after you kill the boss it allowed you to take an item with legendary potential and combine it with another item of the same type. It can make the item much stronger.

[livid sapphire]

for just that

LOL

[sonic crater]

neat c:

[livid sapphire]

This - is important

Smashing Affixes onto LP is needed

[sonic crater]

this what I got

[hallow yarrow]

Great item, I use that. Farm some primordial and but another. Hope for Leg potential then learn how to smash it.

*buy

[sonic crater]

Ahh okay

[livid sapphire]

This is what he's talking about

[sonic crater]

So I use that for now, farm more then hope for leg potential and get more affixes on it

[livid sapphire]

if you have the same item you have

and it has Legendary potential

you can take a purple item, and smash 1,2,3 or 4 of the affixes on it

onto your unique

and it replaces the "LP" wiuth the pink text

as seen on my terribly cropped boots

It is random though

[sonic crater]

Yea that I read on the wiki, but what about the roles for the unique?

[livid sapphire]

The rolls for the unique

as mentioned can be altered through strife

at any time

[sonic crater]

oka

[livid sapphire]

So for me to reroll those boots

I would need the same ones with +2LP

[sonic crater]

gotcha

[livid sapphire]

1LP or No LP would not allow me to reroll them

[sonic crater]

kewl

[livid sapphire]

2,3,4 LP would allow me to reroll 2 LP boots

yeah

It's a bit of a curve to remember and learn

but adds a LOT of depth to the game

[sonic crater]

Yea I like the overall farming in this game, expecially with cof

seems very good so far

[hallow yarrow]

I get it...Its a lot to take in at first. I was overwhelmed and was like WTF are you talking about. It takes time.

[livid sapphire]

Yeah

But EHG did do a great job

with the guide

in game

just a lot to read

[sonic crater]

ye

[hasty scaffold]

if you're going erasing strike, is it pointless to invest in echo tree?

[candid elm]

If you're talking about Abyssal Echoes Skill, that's not as popular to pair with Erasing Strike after the 1.2 update. If you're instead talking about the Time Loop node in Erasing Strike that gives +1 max echoes, you do want a point in that so you can get to Shattered Continuity and Chamber of Fate nodes.

[hasty scaffold]

i mean does echo chance in the passive tree apply to erasing strike since it has its own echo?

i know shield bash doesn't work even though it's melee and void

i mean shield rush

because it has its own echo

[candid elm]

oh hmm, I don't know, you may want to ask #🔱┃sentinel channel about that

[crystal hull]

Is there anyway to convert swipes damage tags into "cold"

[lime hamlet]

Anyone have any ideas where the Soul Furnaces are on The Fires Below echo?

it's the lvl 90 Fire mono

2nd quest

ok, that's kind of BS, they're fricking invisible

[warped stirrup]

Never seen strife echo before, end up on your message by accident. Probably come back later to game as well.
So I can get Unique with LP and bad rolls, sacrifice any other unique (matching only in LP) to reroll values on it and keep LP at the same time?

Basically divining item like in poe, right? LP can't be rolled, but if I have legendary item with affixes already - I can random reroll them this way? (Example: Legendary item with 4 bad legendary affixes)

[faint cape]

No, but you can add cold damage to it with stats like "+X melee cold damage"

[faint cape]

Yeah, it's bugged right now, unfortunately. There tends to be one SW, one NW and one E

but they do slowly patrol a bit

[livid sapphire]

Yeah, aslong as the item has the same amount of LP (whether it be +2 LP for example or 2 pink text affixes) it can be smashed at Strife to reroll not only the rolls of the unique but the rolls of the +affixes applied by the original smash.

you can use more or equal LP to reroll

so you can smash a 3lp item to reroll a 2lp

or a 1lp item to reroll a 0

and so forth

[meager frost]

guys is this good

[oblique mulch]

Nah common LP4 drop

[hasty basin]

is abomination a good farmer or only bosser - like bear druid?

[formal bane]

Quick Aberroth question!
Is the "Timeshattering Slam" the big flail chargeup, and then slam down with the outward explosion?
looking at some Uber Aberroth stats, and trying to figure out which of his skills is the big slam that he charges up for so long. with that massive void around you while he charges it

or is it this slam? i cant tell which one is his big slam :( theres no visual attached to this list sadly

[desert tree]

That one

[desert tree]

This one is the rectangular "burning void Dot"

[formal bane]

thank you a lot Vlad :)

[desert tree]

Btw
Yellow is the dot aoe when he charges
Red is the hit wave
Green is the dot left behind the wave while it expends

[dense jay]

Vlad ms paint where

[formal bane]

preciate it, i figured as much given the stats (min range and max range on the yellow was fitting description of void donut while he charges)

I love the visualization tho, solidified my understanding. 10/10 paint work

[desert tree]

Finger coloring on phone screenshot
Peak content

[tawdry jasper]

Does Harvest have a base freeze rate when converted to cold? Or do I have to rely on Bone Curse to freeze?

[dense jay]

Peak content is when Vlad draw Abby in the middle and draw out all the attacks in MS paint

[crystal jackal]

if you kill aberroth on normal difficulty and die at the same time, you lose all the loot

is that intended?

[calm spire]

loot near you should be transferred thru

not sure about Abby specific mechanics tho

[blazing umbra]

No Abby loot disappears

Anti cheese I guess

(don't ask me how I know)

[wicked sierra]

is there a way to target farm this small idol (CoF)?

[desert tree]

Small Weaver idols prophecies +'running Tombs and Cemeteries

[wicked sierra]

what kind of lence is optimal for this task (I am using block area + small relic rate + x2 item)

[wicked sierra]

also re-setting the affix with weaver favor is not worth it right? I did so many time but never got anything

[desert tree]

Yeah I don't think reforge is worth

[desert tree]

Double double or double blocker I would say

[wicked sierra]

ty ty

[lime hamlet]

the only way I found them was the beam of fire attack they put out. then attacked blindly into that beam

[golden trout]

for endgame, fate of monliths, is it conquer all the islands outwards till the empowered ones? ... is this what the endgame is about?
how abount dungeons?

[storm blaze]

The end game is about the empowered monoliths and pushing corruption
maybe bosses too if you feel like it
dungeons aren't really the end game

[fresh lotus]

no, the empowered monos arent even endgame

endgame is pushing to ~500-1k corruption and trying to kill the pinnacle boss, uber aberroth

[crystal jackal]

how do you craft experimental affixes now? it seems to have changed since season 1

[desert tree]

Woven echo rune prison

[faint cape]

The monolith is all end game stuff, pushing corruption and Uber is just a small part of that that some people like to do

[candid elm]

Details https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-tombs-of-the-erased-patch-notes/75247#heading--crafting-experimental

[storm wren]

On the angle of aesthetic, the new last epoch font looks very interesting and fancy because a black hole replace the epoch/O. Silver let the title looks out of normal frame and match with purple pretty well.

This is a successful graphic design.
I wish "last epoch" can keep silver since then... Golden ones appeared too much, I'm tired of this colour already.

[crystal jackal]

you still can't pause the game when you play online, evern if you're alone, right?

[storm blaze]

correct

[formal osprey]

Do we have any new info on Orobyss expansion stuff or just the old timeline that they seem to actually still follow, from long ago?

Hmm. Maybe it wasn't that long ago

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-roadmap/70970

False echoes?

[faint cape]

I think those are now woven echoes

[candid elm]

Unfortunately no additional details yet, it was more of a "going to also be available PS5" type of announcement
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[faint cape]

No, it kinda implies that we'll get the final boss fight against Orobyss, which in the past they've said they intend to release alongside chapter 12 and I am just assuming they wouldn't skip chapter 11 if they still do that.

[formal osprey]

So they stopped following the 24th of May timeline?

[calm spire]

getting better gear-wise.....no major issues killing normal Abby

Uberoth is a different ball game tho

[faint cape]

Correct, that got thrown out the window with the updated timeline for S2+

[candid elm]

I believe this is the most recent one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844008172640403496/1344766017347518515/Le_roadmap.jpeg?ex=68d64cb3&is=68d4fb33&hm=f3270fec9461f76d0ca25caf943bd9e71b6150fc253a7105a86c5b286afd334f&

[formal osprey]

Ah, ty

[formal osprey]

Man, I didn't realise they don't show year on date on website even when it's a previous year. Hard to see in the post I linked it's not this years even when trying

[candid elm]

You'll see some of the previous stuff in there, just moved around. For example the Ancient Era Chapter was in the recent 1.3 update

[faint cape]

Oh, yeah that's quite wonky

[blazing glacier]

It can't become silver because that sick sign Mike has is gold

[storm wren]

Sick sign Mike has is gold?

I dont understand

[blazing glacier]

Im kinda making a joke, but Mike received a fan made physical last epoch sign as a gift

[storm wren]

Oh I think EHG can give a order to ask him to craft an extra silver one

[blazing glacier]

Its pretty cool, really intricate and well made. I'm jealous

[storm wren]

It's more cool if EHG can release that craft as an attached product so people can purchase that but I think build a sample to produce and quality assurance is a big deal 🤔

Orange light last for 1s only :(

[chrome quail]

hello. i am working on a rogue build. i am trying to decide between pumping ward a lot (which has kept me safely alive) or armor/endurance. I have the helmet to mitigate DoT as well as silver shroud, glancing blow, etc through passives but I am working on using idols + reliquary nest to max defenses. any thoughts on whether ward or armor/endurance is better as i move into 100+ corruption?

[candid elm]

Note that Armor works for all Hits, including Hits on Ward. Endurance is just for damage to Health when the damage would put you below Endurance Threshold. You may want to ask #🔪┃rogue as what you go for can also vary by build. For example if you're using Smoke Bomb there's Silver Shroud and Dusk Shroud.

[chrome quail]

indeed. i have also posted there.

[calm spire]

is there a way to see where you have the Uberoth echo ?

[candid elm]

Like you placed one and can't remember where?

[calm spire]

exactly

but it seems i must've reset the timeline with it in

threshold one is it ?

[candid elm]

There's a search box in the upper right, but you'd have to check each Timeline. The Uber Aberrorth even woven echo is called Threshold of Eternity. Test it first by searching for something else so you can see what it looks like when it highlights something

You may be able to find it by zooming out and panning around with the search

[calm spire]

yeah but seems it's been reset by an echo of worlds

hopefully i'll last more than 20 seconds.....

humiliated

facing reality... i'll never beat him 😄

is this the pink moving areas like triangles that alternates ?

i can't even see i'm touching that but still i die

i must be suffering for gfx lagg cuz when i see it it kinda moves instantly so i get no time to move

[candid elm]

Looking at the boss skill lost on https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/UberAterroth
a skill with Lighting and Void damage is probably the Triple Flail Slam. There's a wedge behind him that's safe.

If you want to see a little video clip of it, check out Triple Flail Slam here, it's the 6th one listed https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/resources/aberroth-boss-guide#ability-breakdown-header

[calm spire]

always lightning and void that gets me

ohh this is tough...got passed that once....then he took a crap at me.

[frosty patrol]

Going to get into this finally, any one know when the next league is? If it’s soon I’ll hold off

[desert tree]

Probably dec/jan

[frosty patrol]

Plenty of time then ty

[candid elm]

Yeah. For reference, Season 2 released April 17 and Season 3 released August 21. So about 4 months for Season 2 length.

It's been about a month since Season 3 started, so you've probably got another 2-3 months at least.

[calm spire]

Just pointing out that Uberoth is very VERY Uber

[lone furnace]

Leagues are only nessisarry if you want to chase ladder, or want fresh econ for trading.

You loose nothing by making a legacy char, but you keep your stash tabs, and alts and everything

[desert tree]

Starting fresh is a necessity for me.
If I come back to a season and have my characters lvled up and my stash full of gear, I'll play for 5h and be done with the season

[frosty patrol]

Ty mate

[calm spire]

Do i have to be in a certain timeline for imprinted red rings to drop ?

[candid elm]

No. They each have a different proc. It can be helpful to think of them as an extra drop chances for a similar item.

• Echoing Riches - extra drop chances from echo rewards, the orange glowing thing back on the little island after you complete an echo without dying.
• Sealed Riches - extra drop chances when you open a Cache. Favor Caches included.
• Commoner's Riches - extra drop chances from just defeating enemies.
• Warlord's Riches - bit different, extra drop chances for a similar item with a Sealed affix like what's imprinted when you defeat Champions.

[calm spire]

And loot chests

Ahh caches

I can use unique ring prophecies to increase chance ?

[candid elm]

It won't help with the Imprints directly, but you'll get more unique rings in general which could help. As can running unique ring Prophecies and Rune of Ascendence on rings.

[calm spire]

Im too squishy so i need a better red one

Among other things

[calm spire]

stuttering minions is the new thing ?

[blazing umbra]

I think this patch addressed it

[calm spire]

ohh i better update then

[spice willow]

ferebor's set that has INT affix on it..why?

the set is for totem skills which is mostly attunement

[faint cape]

The set dagger gives your totems flat crit chance per int

[rocky rapids]

also has a little bit of synergy if you wanted to go tempest strike to buff up storm totem

[calm spire]

can't really say that a phantom grip is hard to come by

[spice willow]

yeah but classes who use totems don't use INT

[faint cape]

The set gives them a reason to

[unkempt hornet]

anyone know how to sort single t6 items in stashes? i dont want double and t7s shown

[calm spire]

Search or show ?

[faint cape]

Paste this into your search bar !2t6+&!t7&exalted

[calm spire]

1t6

[faint cape]

the stash priorities can't auto-sort by tiers though

[unkempt hornet]

i only want to see the single t6 ones i have not doubles or t7s

[calm spire]

1t6

[unkempt hornet]

that dont work, it shows doubles

[faint cape]

See my comment above

!2t6+&!t7&t6 also works (but would show legendaries with a T6, I guess)

[unkempt hornet]

i'll test it

[calm spire]

What about 1t6&!2t6 ?

[unkempt hornet]

legendaries dont matter they go in another stash

i just wanna sort out the single t6 gears i picked up

[faint cape]

Yeah, should also work. If 3t6s show up, then also add !3t6, and you could add !4t6 to really drive it home lol

but I think !2t6 probably covers those

[calm spire]

But it might show 67’s

[unkempt hornet]

i'll do some testing when im done witht his mono

[calm spire]

67 is short for t6t7

[unkempt hornet]

!2t6+&!t7&t6 this seems to work 😄

thx 🙂

[devout hedge]

Looking to try something different after getting my Necro much farther this season than previous. Thinking about making a rogue and was curious about what people's favorite Rogue builds are? I wouldn't mind a build that is a pretty decent boss killer.

[nimble bolt]

is anyone else having issues with horrible rubberbanding right now? I can literally barely even play despite having a ping of like 20ms

[ripe wasp]

Acid flask explosive trap, can run it on falconer or bladedancer

[fervent charm]

so whats going on with the servers? maintenance?

[oblique mulch]

ZHP Ballista Falconer

[polar scarab]

new player... lvl 85 and yet to see a rune of havoc drop. have i got a messed up filter or is there a certain corruption lvl or something they start to drop at?

[meager junco]

90 area level iirc

[old kettle]

guys what does it mean "u can't equip primordial item?"

I just bought a ring from the bazaar and it says I can't equip it have I been scammed?

pls answer asap pls

[nimble bolt]

do you already have another primordial item equipped?

[old kettle]

yea I figured it out I have a tyrex relic 🙁 my money is cooked 🙁

[nimble bolt]

You can stash the item you bought for another character

[old kettle]

it's no longer tradeable 🙁

[nimble bolt]

Or save it for if you decide to switch up your build

[old kettle]

okay lol 😭

[nimble bolt]

It can still be stashed and shared between your character

[old kettle]

I had no clue only 1 primordial equipment can be equipped I already bought the item 😭

oh well lesson learned XD

[nimble bolt]

if you look at the tooltip on the item it should tell you that only one can be equipped

[crystal jackal]

let's see if someone can help me with this intricate question
Im playing Time Rot and have anomaly specced with the 3 node indicated in the picture. Immediacy, Quicksand and Cycle of Decay.

I asked a few days ago how quicksand works, and was told that it just speeds up the rate of the ailments that are already applied.

So my question is, how that that interact with the other 2 nodes?
Im trying to calculate the actual dps here, and Im not sure how these interact. Also, I want to figure out if I need to reapply the dots before I hit the enemy with a second anomaly

figured out why the pic looked so strange

[tacit onyx]

i am amazed that "spend key to retry" is still broken and totally not playable

[wooden jay]

Why? Working fine for me

[tacit onyx]

if i understand it right, you dont want cycle of decay? the ability will instantly trigger "return" effects so no need to use it

[desert tree]

Maybe @wintry oyster can help you there

[tacit onyx]

online or offline?

[wooden jay]

Online

[desert tree]

I have been using it no issues too
Online

[tacit onyx]

it has been reported multiple times in offline if you use a key to respawn the dungeon ability is removed.

this is on all key based dungeons

[crystal jackal]

what does that mean? use a key to respawn?

[tacit onyx]

when you die in a dungeon you can use a key to respawn instead of restart

[desert tree]

This always amazes me

Offline only bugs

[crystal jackal]

aha, had no idea that was a thing, playing in HC

[crystal jackal]

can't test it since I died and deleted my old char, and don't have that node unlocked on my new yet.

[desert tree]

So immediacy makes it that you don't send forward, and effect you get from returning them to the present is now instant

[tacit onyx]

i mean it is game breaking bug or at least i would assume it is high priority

[desert tree]

It doesn't have any dmg impact

Just qol

[tacit onyx]

you lose a key

[desert tree]

Cycle of Decay reset the whole duration

So depends on how fast you stack them it's not really a dmg boost I would say

[crystal jackal]

It depends on in which order they are triggered I guess...

e.g.
1: 12 stacks with 50% duration left
2: hit with Anomaly and all those nodes
3: reset duration to 100%, increase the speed of ailments by 125% and "nuke" for the full dot duration.

OR
1: 12 stacks with 50% duration left
2: hit with Anomaly and all those nodes
3: increase the speed of ailments by 125% and "nuke" for the 50% dot duration.
4: reset the duration instantly after step 3 and either "delete" the nuke, or not affect it at all

[desert tree]

It doesn't matter if it reset first and then speed up

Let's say you reset at 3'sec and then speed up to 1.5 sec

Or you speed up to the "whole" 'duration at 1.5 then reset

Same thing

You get a full duration stack for 1.5 sec

At least thats how I understand it

[crystal jackal]

I was told a few days ago that Quicksand only affect the ailments that are already present on the enemy when you hit it with anomaly.

that would imply that if I have 5 sec duration Time rot that does 100dps => 500 total dmg.
I would deal that 500 dmg in a much shorter time period before the time rots would expire and new ones would be applied with 5 sec duration again.
in effect increasing your total dps over time

so the way I interpret this is that if I hit the enemy with anomaly when there is 5 sec left => 500 dmg done as burst.

if I hit the enemy with 2 sec left = 200 dmg done as burst.

and if I reset the duration from 2 sec to 5 sec before the burst with cycle of Decay, it would guarantee it's always 500 dmg burst.
but if it doesn't reset before, then I would get 200 dmg burst

[desert tree]

It doesn't pop the Ailment

It makes the stack faster

[crystal jackal]

yeah, I understand that from the description...but in practice it's a pop in-game, when I use it you just see 1 big dot tick

[desert tree]

Even with the reset?

[crystal jackal]

I only had it with the reset. and my char died now on HC so I deleted it and new one is not high enough lvl to try it again

[calm spire]

They have the biggest dropchances in Tombs that can be found randomly in echoes . that or the Cemetary tombs..
I am lvl100 now and have maybe gotten 35-40 of them in total . probably less!

[old kettle]

hey guys on ancestral saber tooth node does the ancestral sabertooth that is summoned do flurry swipes too?

need answer asap guys thanks 😊

[calm spire]

can anyone tell me why this one is getting a hit when i search stash for health ?

is this the info ?

[old kettle]

okay thanks bro

[desert tree]

Probably one of the alt text

[calm schooner]

Do you grind levels, or rush for Empowered Monoliths?

[calm spire]

empowered should be main goal. i started empowered once i managed all 10 of the harbingers

leveling is faster when you have higher corruption as well

more exp

also drops are better at higher corruption, if i may say : it all scales

on the back of your hand.

how hard would it be to get those 2 affixes onto the cleaver?
i have 4x LP2 base uniques to play with and then there's getting the exalts.

[desert tree]

I Rush but I play SC

[desert tree]

It's a 1/3

[calm spire]

Getting the exalts is the hardest task and most time consuming then

[desert tree]

If you want only t7+T5 prophecies are great

[calm spire]

A 77 would be ideal if possible

[desert tree]

That's a lot harder

And will require imprint and stuff

[calm spire]

For uber i need to up both health/regen and overall dmg so every % counts

As i understood if doing small dmg his mechanics gets a living hell

[crystal jackal]

I don't think my statement about the pop is correct

[calm spire]

So for the prophecies i can just make a 75 and inprint it

[crystal jackal]

it might has just looked liek 1 pop when you're ingame and elites die instantly and bosses get their wards popped due to the super high dmg the build has

testing it on a dummy now a bit, and it seems that there are several higher dot ticks when I just apply 1 time rot with basic attack

but it could also be the result of Void touched and Exaberbate....hmm

when I do it with orb stacks, I only get 1 super high tick and then a few that are a bit higher, like 50%...not sure what's going on here

think I need to gear by the char more and get higher time rot chance to guarantee 12 stacks at all times to test it out.
but when I test it with the orbs, it seems like it's just 1 large tick

[mental geyser]

so given I unlocked empowered monos is it worth keeping the gear from before then?

[desert tree]

Hum, yes and no
Uniques yes
Rares not really

[calm spire]

will the chance of getting the two wanted affixes when slamming affected by this ?

7555 vs 7533 or is the rng the same ?

[wintry oyster]

did you get your answer?

[crystal jackal]

we were mostly sprculsting and guessing. if you know how it works, please do share

[wintry oyster]

do you want to know how it works in theory or how it actually works in game?

[crystal jackal]

they're different? both if you don't mind

[wintry oyster]

the way it actually works inside the game is that both nodes are bugged, cycle of decay does quite literally nothing at all, quicksand has a case of "extra zeroes" or something

it's somewhat unclear exactly what value quicksand actually gives but it's enough that with 3-5 points your dots will bleed out instantly in one tick

(serpent sting btw has the same bug)

[crystal jackal]

ok, so I wasn't imagening it when I was seeing the dmg come as a 1 tick nuke

[wintry oyster]

now the way it should work in theory is that quicksand should divide your rot duration by (1+quicksand%) so for example if you rot lasts 9 seconds and you have 3 points, your dot duration would be 9/1.75 = 5.14 seconds

and any time you hit anomaly, your timerot (if active) would be refreshed to 5.14 seconds

by cycle of decay

and as a reminder, timerot snapshots its damage upon application which means that with a long enough timerot duration & CDR for anomaly, you would be able to have full uptime on julra's stardials among other things

but of course that's just not how the game works as the game is a bugged fiesta

[wintry oyster]

ye thats why timerot & serpent sting were one shotting uber in 1.2

EHG decided to nerf the builds instead of fixing the bugs 🤷‍♀️

[crystal jackal]

I've been told that when you increase dot dmg, you don't change the DPS just the the durtation and thus the total dmg done.
is that correct?
and if so, in theory, is quicksand supposed to work differently where it increases the dps but keep the total dot dmg the same?

[wintry oyster]

you mean when you increase duration i assume

[crystal jackal]

yes, e.g world rot node in dev orb

[wintry oyster]

if your timerot does 10 damage over 3 seconds and you increase its duration by 50% it will do 15 damage over 4.5 seconds

and then if you have 4/5 in quicksand (theoretically) that would cause it to do 15 damage over 2.25 seconds

theoretically duration is "not" a dps increase but at the end of the day it's a dps increase

in practice it very much is a damage multiplier

mostly due to quicksand

in theory you would stop benefitting from duration (again, if things weren't bugged) once your timerot duration is higher than your anomaly cooldown

with whatever leeway you need to actually get the cast off

which is a hard enough threshold to reach anyway

[crystal jackal]

CD it shorter than timte rot rudation with quicksand, right?

[wintry oyster]

it depends how much duration & CDR you stack

in theory you can get to that point with good gear (reliquary nest makes it a lot easier although it's maybe not BiS)

well at the very least javelin is not useable anymore so with my old gear i'd have 8.43 seconds of time rot duration, which is definitely enough

think my anomaly cooldown was 3.9s or something

it'd be enough to go 4/5 quicksand

[crystal jackal]

Im in HC with a baby, so I don't plan on doing uber aberroth anyway, can't farm that much
and aberrroth I can kill easily with this build even with crap gear

[crystal jackal]

that's really impresive

[wintry oyster]

ye timerot is still strong

i saw mistia do another kill the other day

[wintry oyster]

i forgot to explain why, *cause ES has rot duration in the tree

[crystal jackal]

with which build?

[wintry oyster]

time rot

ES

https://youtu.be/DS7vlclX5Mo

he did it in 90s but u can do it in 40s

[crystal jackal]

is ES higher dmg than dev orb?

[calm spire]

are there any hickups when slamming a primordial item ?

[crystal jackal]

I would assume it works the same as any unique

[wintry oyster]

not 100% sure but i think it should be higher

[calm spire]

i've read something about T8 slamming

[blazing umbra]

No unique can contain a t8 affix

[crystal jackal]

you can't slam t8 on any item
and you can only have 1 item with t8 OR a primordial unique

[calm spire]

aha

[crystal jackal]

so you need to chose T8 item OR a primordial unique, you can't have both

[blazing umbra]

and the t8 has to be exalted

no slammage

[calm spire]

ok. mixed it up

[blazing umbra]

If you wanna gauge it intuitively, t8s go to the second sealed slot

sealed slots aren't selectable

[crystal jackal]

I like the farming with the dev orb version, it's so fast

just tp and drop an orb and the entire screen dies

[wintry oyster]

you can use both

oh manual dev orb

what does it look like?

i havent seen footage

[calm spire]

will the t5 get a higher chance if i upgrade the other 2 to t5 as well ?

[wintry oyster]

higher chance of what

[blazing umbra]

From t5 to t6? No

Random upgrades stop at t5

[calm spire]

i meant to be selected

[wintry oyster]

at the sanctum?

[blazing umbra]

Ohhh

[calm spire]

when slamming

[wintry oyster]

no

[blazing umbra]

All odds are equal yeah, I wish lmao

Would make our life so much simpler

[crystal jackal]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/time-rot-void-knight-guide
scroll to the bottom, there's a video.

[calm spire]

so just copy it and hope for luck

[blazing umbra]

Yep welcome to gamba

[wintry oyster]

it looks clunky to me i'd rather autobomb with ES

[crystal jackal]

dev orbs spawn abyssal orbs and fly out and "cover" the entire screen

[crystal jackal]

do you have footage of that mapping?

[wintry oyster]

i mean have you seen the 1.2 autobomber setups?

https://youtu.be/0sfEFB0vhqk

[crystal jackal]

he has the super short volatile reversal travel distance in the vid there, I'm jumping much further

[wintry oyster]

it's the same thing as this except you use erasing strike to bop rares instead of javelin

[crystal jackal]

that's nice as well

but Im doing HC, so need my shield 😄

[wintry oyster]

you would use a shield

that's 1.2

BBC was good

i mean look at the mistia setup

it's still not what i would use but it's closer

[blazing umbra]

love how black blade nerf made lethal mirage even more trash

[wintry oyster]

better than fixing bugs

[blazing umbra]

Lol exactly

[calm spire]

fingers crossed guys

[crystal jackal]

I'll see if I can get some footage when I get to empowered monos again, died with my old char so making a new one

[blazing umbra]

Good luck dude

happy gamba

[calm spire]

fail 1

[blazing umbra]

F

[crystal jackal]

me in season 1 trying to slam t7 int and t5 mana

[blazing umbra]

If we count season 1

[calm spire]

cool....not so much

[blazing umbra]

I have entire tabs of bricks

Enough to swap over to Minecraft

[wintry oyster]

still cant believe i failed ~18 orian's eye in a row in 1.1

[calm spire]

this is rigged...the exact same outcome

[blazing umbra]

If we're bricking 8 2lps in a row rn with 33% odds, going 4x over odds at 25% checks out

[calm spire]

i don't buy this rng. the odds of getting the exact same slam

[crystal jackal]

computer RNG is notorious for giving similar outcomes close to eachother, but over infinity rolls it evens out

[calm spire]

that's it for today...rage-quit 😄

[crystal jackal]

maybe it's become better now on modern machines, but back when I was in uni, this was an acutal thing

based on how the RNGs were generated

when you get to late game, PoE feels more deterministic than LE imo

[calm spire]

Sinclair ZX Spectrum RND 1 to 65000

[faint cape]

rng has been pretty solid for ages, I think more often implementers mess stuff up

[wintry oyster]

sanctum needs another change

[calm spire]

one figure wrong in the equation and it's outta here

[faint cape]

But far more often than that, it's just perception or confirmation bias

[wintry oyster]

the one they came up with in 1.2 was not it

[crystal jackal]

yeah, the problem I have with 2-3 LP slams is that no matter how many slams you've failed, you're still on square 1, where you were when you started

[wintry oyster]

need a currency system that lets you affect the outcome for a hefty price

[crystal jackal]

so there's no sense of progression, it's just pure gambling.

if you're a gambling addict, I'm sure you would love this system.
but for everyone else, it feels so bad

[wintry oyster]

don't think anybody who's tried to slam actually rare gear likes the system

it's fine for things you can farm in 10 hours, not fine for drops you'll find once in 2000 hours of game time

[blazing umbra]

@calm spire btw for the record there's been a lot of tinfoil speculation overtime about duped items resulting in the same slams but it's not the case

So don't worry about something janky there

You just rolled the same 1/3

[wintry oyster]

i had a 3lp BBC in 1.2 i never slammed it cause it would only be better than my 2lp with 777 and I'm not farming a 777 for a 2 in 3 chance to miss my slam lmao

[wintry oyster]

where's the proof

[blazing umbra]

you're not wrong, I'm only debunking it not always being the case

[calm spire]

nah, luck is what it is. some ppl are lucky and some aren't...

[wintry oyster]

that was never the tinfoil hat theory

the theory is that you are more likely to hit same outcome, not that it's guaranteed

[blazing umbra]

I've seen so many people religiously claim creation dupes being rng locked

[faint cape]

Please don't further spread misinformation

[wintry oyster]

afaik it hasn't been debunked but it wouldn't be hard to run a test

[blazing umbra]

? Explain

[faint cape]

It has been

Like you say, it's easily testable

[wintry oyster]

just slam a bunch of bee gloves with bad exalts see what happens

[calm spire]

that thought haven't crossed my mind so never thought of it as a variable

[wintry oyster]

where's the test

[faint cape]

Pretty sure FrozenSentinel or someone did a video on it

[blazing umbra]

I'm more interested in how I'm spreading misinformation

[wintry oyster]

i don't think he has

[blazing umbra]

Did you misread

[wintry oyster]

if somebody ran a test it's someone else

[calm spire]

he was worried i would take it as truth and rant about it

[faint cape]

Fair

[wintry oyster]

i'm sure the game is ruining as intended but i would still like to see it with my own eyes

[calm spire]

i felt mother fortune was with me when i got the exalts in 10 minutes....Julra wanted nothing of it

[wintry oyster]

i'm tinfoil hatting pretty hard btw but too lazy to go test it myself

do we have any statisticians here, what sample size would you need to make a conclusion

[blazing umbra]

Intuitively it feels like it'd be a case of either bringing in the same results or working as intended. I can't fathom what means of code jank would simply skew the odds. That would take manual editing

Because otherwise it's just an exception right

[wintry oyster]

i mean

there have been bugs in the game

[calm spire]

what is best ? flat health or hybrid health ?

[wintry oyster]

that were way more unlikely than that

[crystal jackal]

hybrid > % > flat

[calm spire]

thx

[wintry oyster]

imprints had a bug where if you imprinted an item with a high chance to ascendance into high LP uniques, all the imprinted drops would also have a high chance to result into high LP uniques

[calm spire]

lol. i'm all out of hybrid health shards

[wintry oyster]

it really would not be surprising if rune of creation skewed outcomes to be like the original item

[crystal jackal]

there are corner cases if you're low on health for instance, like in early game.
but in general it's like that if you build health

[blazing umbra]

Oh yeah early s2

I think I popped 3 1lp red rings in one pip

Pop*

Combined with the fact that they could only proc exactly what was imprinted for uniques

[faint cape]

You just need a sample size of 1 to disprove it

One that doesn't repeat of course

[crystal jackal]

technically I think you mean 2 if you're lucky with RNG

[wintry oyster]

nope

[blazing umbra]

I think noobzor is arguing the existence of skewed odds, not whether it's done deal. I've hit countless items on the creationed exalted

[faint cape]

One pair, to be more specific

[wintry oyster]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[faint cape]

Oh, well there's just no reasonable way I could see that happening by accident

[crystal jackal]

depends on how likely "more likely" is 😅

[wintry oyster]

weirder things have happened in that game

[faint cape]

That's waaay far into tinfoil hat

[wintry oyster]

i really don't think it is compared to say the imprint bug

[storm blaze]

imprint bug?

[faint cape]

I mean, how would that functionally happen?

[wintry oyster]

scroll up

[desert tree]

If you have over than 1k flat %hp is better than Hybrid

[blazing umbra]

I don't think a potential bug like that is possible in a vacuum, but what I'm saying is that when usually something in code has a binary state, for that to go from "yes or no" to "more likely yes than no" you'd have to manually write those lines in, but yeah that's obviously very surface level thinking

[wintry oyster]

honestly i kinda wanna direct you to all the correlated RNG in MHRise crafting which could be similar

[faint cape]

I don't know anything about MH and don't see how it's relevant

[blazing umbra]

using myself as a sample though, if I was getting the exact same result suspiciously frequently, it would probably have fired up an alarm in my subconscious

[blazing umbra]

% on body armor my beloved

Probably my favorite slam in the game

[wintry oyster]

i mean it's kinda more complicated than that

[blazing umbra]

absolutely, I do recognize how surface level that thought process is

I'm just trying to guess the error likelihood

or gauge rather

[calm spire]

is this one useful ?

[faint cape]

Exactly, we're starting to get to multiple points of failure

[wintry oyster]

i don't think i can explain it in a way that an actual programmer wouldn't choke upon reading the sentence

[blazing umbra]

Eh, if everything came with a mandatory scientific explanation, layman discussion would be extinct

There's value in simple descriptions

[faint cape]

and between that and EHG telling us how it works and several folk decompiling the game all not telling us it's skewed, it's pretty unlikely

[wintry oyster]

EHG also said gold boosts don't affect ancient bones

[faint cape]

The above is all just points of failure for estimating probability

[wintry oyster]

basically the RNG could be tied to an exalted item on spawn, and that seed could not be getting reset properly upon duping

[blazing umbra]

Would it be within tunk's scope to take a peek under the hood? Does API access allow for such information? Sorry if that sounds dumb

[faint cape]

Obviously it doesn't exactly work like a fault tree, but it's a good enough way to estimate anyway lol

[wintry oyster]

like there are so many games where you can savescum your way through crafting because the "future" of an item is written in it the moment it drops

but it can also be altered in some ways

[blazing umbra]

like unintendedly locked rng in only some of the systems of a jrpg you mean for example

There's frame based and action based rng in a lot of older games in combination within the same game

[faint cape]

API access is just character equipment/skills/quest states. But yes Tunk and Dammitt and others have all reverse engineered a lot of the game logic behind LP

[wintry oyster]

ye like say idk you craft on an item and it's going always going to lose 3 fp the first time then 8 fp the second time etc

[blazing umbra]

I see

[wintry oyster]

of course you can't savescum in LE but the idea of predefined outcomes still applies

[faint cape]

It's possible, but they would have needed to intentionally code it that way

[blazing umbra]

That's what I was arguing by "manually inputting lines to intentionally make something a more likely outcome"

[faint cape]

like deterministically generating a seed from item id or something

[blazing umbra]

But janky rng isn't out of the scope of possibility

[meager junco]

unity's rng is used everywhere which isn't initialized with an item seed

[blazing umbra]

For the record I do believe that ooga booga monkey instinct would kick in if I felt the creation item did give suspiciously similar results as the original item but one person isn't a big enough sample

(but man I've slammed a lot of items)

[wintry oyster]

you can get a big enough sample you just need to write it down

[blazing umbra]

to be fair it doesn't take more than 30mins-1hr offline

But yeah

[wintry oyster]

even online

[wintry oyster]

im not 100% sure about the implications of that statement

[shy turret]

whenever i used a creationed one, i choose the other t7. just in case. (tin foil hat on)

[faint cape]

Unity's default random functions have pretty good documentation

[blazing umbra]

based 😭

[wintry oyster]

im just wondering how the imprint bug came to be if there's no item seed

or is that not what it means

[meager junco]

which one

[blazing umbra]

The bug with uniques

(season 2)

[shy turret]

rune of ascendancy one

[wintry oyster]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[meager junco]

the old imprint code copied the old item so it was probably due to that more than the rng

[blazing umbra]

If that's the case, that contrasts EHG's statement of it being unintended. When Mike got asked he said "imprints were never meant to guarantee particular outcomes" to heavily paraphrase

I think it was on stream though

[faint cape]

My bet is on malformed items as well

[wintry oyster]

but that means items have a property that determine what happens when you ascendance them?

[meager junco]

it also kept a live copy of the item instead of what you dragged in originally. also i think they just nerfed it rather than fixing it

[faint cape]

Well yes and no, it starts with a copy, but then it randomly changes everything from there

[wintry oyster]

nerfing instead of fixing, a true EHG classic

[faint cape]

Not necessarily, it might just mean the item already had a bunch of LP as a regular item

[blazing umbra]

The unintended interactions in this game give me a headache sometimes

[wintry oyster]

what is LP as a regular item

does every item have LP even if it's not unique?

[faint cape]

Nothing, that's why you wouldn't be able to see it

[wintry oyster]

like you can have a 4lp exalted belt and you won't know until you ascendance?

is it something you can see when you open your savefile? lol

i dont think you can read your online savefile? but that sounds pretty busted for offline

[faint cape]

Yeah, or at least possibly you could have before. Those bugged ascenance things were getting much higher than 4LP even lol

[wintry oyster]

cheating without mods xdd

[wintry oyster]

right

[faint cape]

If it were just fixed rng, that wouldn't have been possible

[meager junco]

it's possible it could have rolled based on another field like FP instead of LP (at the time)

[wintry oyster]

if we go back to tinfoil hat theories (bear with me), unique items could technically have a property that just says "at the sanctum you grab affixes 3 4 1 2 in this order", and when you creation an exalted item obviously the order of affixes is the same

and there are issues with unique item RNG

like there is definitely something funky with RNG in the brewmaster echo and some other places as well

[faint cape]

What's the issue?

[wintry oyster]

look at the rolls

between 1/2 and 3/4/5

and no it's not a coincidence

[faint cape]

They could, almost anything is technically possible. If that were true though, we would almost definitely know very easily

[wintry oyster]

i mean ultimately the easiest thing to do is probably just get a small sample size to discredit the theories

if it's not 1 in 3 that would quickly be apparent you probably dont have to run sanctum more than 100 times

[faint cape]

Some stats on uniques use the same roll, this is not a secret. Is that what you mean?

[wintry oyster]

wdym they use the same roll?

[faint cape]

One roll for multiple stats

[wintry oyster]

oh is that what happens with the buckle?

the whole item only uses 1 roll?

[faint cape]

It looks like vit and endurance might be the same roll

Not sure about the others

[wintry oyster]

vit and endurance and potion slots and health gained on potion use

and also they drop at the exact same time

it's possible

[faint cape]

If you calculate the roll value for each stat on an item (0-100%) and it's always the same, you can pretty quickly figure out which are linked

[wintry oyster]

no i mean that makes a lot of sense

it seems to be the case

however it's still pretty unlikely that different items dropping at the same time roll the exact same way no?

[faint cape]

One example is confluence of fate - it only uses 4 rolls, one for the implicit and one for each damage type, so if you get a high +damage roll, its %inc dmg taken roll of that same type is always equally high

[wintry oyster]

the first two belts rolled 83 and 84 (times 2.56), last three rolled 29 27 and 29

[wintry oyster]

ye i know about confluence i just couldn't fathom the whole brewmaster buckle would be like this, like every single roll

but ye it makes a lot of sense

still a bit sussed out about belts rolling almost the exact same (quite consistently) when dropping at the same time

[faint cape]

Yeah, and based on those screenshots, it does seem possible that it's all 1 roll

[wintry oyster]

it's definitely all just 1 roll

it makes sense and seems intended within 1 singular item but it doesn't make sense across different items

[faint cape]

+1 roll for the implicit I guess

[wintry oyster]

ye

all those belts unironically dropped back to back and there were more examples that i didnt screenshot cause it just happened literally every time

[faint cape]

The rolls happen to be close, but not the same

[wintry oyster]

yeah they are not the same but they are eerily close still

[faint cape]

The stat with the highest resolution is the health on pot

So I guess you only need to look at that one, and if it's 400 you got a perfect roll lol

[wintry oyster]

well you can also just look at endurance since who cares about the health on pot

but yeah turns out this item is a lot easier to roll than i initially thought

1 in 9 belts will be "perfect" enough

[faint cape]

True, especially since you will also want a decent armor roll

[shy turret]

i got many 14/20 brewmasters last season. thought i was lucky, all makes sense now

[rain cedar]

hello guys returning player here, i never got past the story but as i am returning recently i am seeing even more systems is there some kind of video guides that just explains the systems?

[faint cape]

All the rolls being linked may or may not be intentional on buckle, wouldn't be the first time they've unintentionally linked or not-linked rolls

[paper magnet]

Ngl this explains why I have half a stash tab of buckles with insanely good rolls and half with complete garbage

[wintry oyster]

im gonna run some more brewmaster echoes i wanna see if there's actual correlation between different drops

[shy turret]

that seems unintentional. barbute seems intentional

red ring seems intentional

[storm wren]

https://www.youtube.com/@Raxxanterax/videos
No idea which systems you mean, so I just post the channel link. Multiple video guides he posted

[wintry oyster]

dw about it bro it's intentional

[rain cedar]

thanks. will check it. but i mostly want to know about crafting/dismantling and the new primordal thingy? the i finished my first line and got the loot from it. but i have no idea what im doing to be honest

[storm wren]

Sweetgoat is typing so I think he know more. emmmm I have no idea where need guides personally

[wintry oyster]

alright im confused now

is this a new bug

singularity shows as 4lp or >23 WW 🤔

[faint cape]

Yeah, new-ish

[wintry oyster]

is it just singularity or more stuff?

[candid elm]

For the Rift Beasts, check out what Skarven Bloodhorn NPC is selling. He's in the Torn Rifts and the Chapter 10 town. If you want any of the Primordial Uniques he's selling or the Rune of Evolution, note what those take to purchase and see if the Rift Beasts evolutions offer those materials. Once you have gathered enough, you can purchase them. Note that you can only have equipped total 1x Primordial Unique or 1x Primordial T8 from Rune of Evolution. Skarven Bloodhorn sells 22 of the 25 Primordial Uniques. There's 3 that are drop only from Rift Beasts.

[faint cape]

I had one of those trash Unvar idols show up as high LP a while back lol

Like maybe a week ago

[wintry oyster]

ah

it'd be nice if they did more stuff with unique idols tbh

current ones are pretty trash for the most part

[faint cape]

Very true

[candid elm]

If your build doesn't use any of the Primordial Uniques, then the T8 affix from Rune of Evolution can be useful to you. If you reach a point where you don't need either, there's also the grab bags in the lower right corner of Skarven Bloodhorn's shop. For example the 5,000 Memory Amber one is pretty useful.

[rain cedar]

i am not sure what that is haha. right now i am not even sure if what im doing is a proper build. i can share pictures here?

[storm wren]

pictures are allowed

[rain cedar]

awesome 1 moment

i am doing a bladedancer but i really have no idea what im doing im just experimenting with what looks cool to me

[candid elm]

That's a great way to have fun! It's pretty easy to respec in Last Epoch, so feel free and just keep doing that. If you ever reach a point where you feel like you're stuck, you can always look up build guides later on.

[storm wren]

that mastery is tricky on weapon choices exactly

[rain cedar]

these are my passives and skills used

[storm wren]

that's normal of you're confusing because you don't unlock all master skill slots yet

[rain cedar]

basically using syncronized to make shadows to throw umbral as my ranged attack, then using lethal mirage to consume the shadows

[storm wren]

That's exerperimental period the game designed for new players

[rain cedar]

oh? how far do i go with perk points/skill points?

haha i see what you mean

[candid elm]

At character level 100, you'll have up to 113 passive points if you got all 15 passive point unlocks from the campaign.
At around character level 75-ish, you'll have level 20 skills with minimum skill level 10. You can go past 20 with +Skill items.

[rain cedar]

aha. btw if i am playing offline my storage still gets shared when i log online? but use my offline characters?

[candid elm]

No, offline and online are separate

[storm wren]

let's just say the truth, I'm still confused about how my build should be going sometimes, even lv 90+ 🤔

[candid elm]

It's also separate by game mode. For example Online Legacy is separate from Online Season

And if you turn on a challenge mode, such as Hardcore, that's also separate

[storm wren]

I changed builds on my marksman the most, don't find the right one until lv 97

[rain cedar]

damn thats a long time

whoa they allowed us to respec?!

heck yeah!

aww im sad i think i borked my build a bit

but respecing will cost half my gold LOL

okay since i am using double daggers, i am applying poison with this passive node yeah?

[candid elm]

Yes

[rain cedar]

hmm earlier i picked all the bleed stacks sadly. would've been better on other points

oh wait its not so bad it also empowers throw and melee okay, safe!

[candid elm]

Mastery Respec was added in 1.2

[rain cedar]

actually fire

[blazing umbra]

yeah it was heavily requested

[wicked sierra]

when I have a unique with bad stat roll from nemesis egg, can I do anything to retry ?