❔┃ask-the-community

[cedar locust]

I'm not sure what could have caused it but given that it's a T6 - '+550 to 700' - a full stop or some other punctuation got misplaced

[toxic echo]

680=68000% its just a bug in the visual thing

so its a pretty good roll

used the wrong line XD

[cedar locust]

Punted it to the team 🙂

[honest birch]

Be aware with the punts maybe theyl glomp in retaliation

[rigid bobcat]

can someone telmme what button is this more information button ? i tihnk ai have change it and for get what was it in the options menu

[sudden otter]

It was from a Nemesis!

[cedar locust]

ALT

[cedar locust]

Oh I meant what caused it on the Tooltip 😅 Nice drop though!

[sudden otter]

just added this info to it

[rigid bobcat]

thy

[sudden otter]

Might help

[loud anchor]

so i am incredibly confused. i've done this a million times with no problem. on a new alt. and have done every quest that includes a idol slot and passive point yet it's showing i have 14/15 and 7/8. i triple checked and i have finished everything up to receivng heoreots blessing. i know for a fact i should have all idol and passive points by now

nvm i figured it out lol ignore me

[storm blaze]

I'm curious what the issue was though

[cedar locust]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-theo-ruiz-yeah-dude-tell-us-tell-us-dude-tell-us-gif-27028966

[storm blaze]

Did you forget to turn in a quest?

[loud anchor]

i forgot one of the rifts (corrupted lake)

[storm blaze]

That was my 2nd guess

[cedar locust]

Hahaha, happens to the best of us

[toxic echo]

corrupted lake is the normal culprit

[lean locust]

Hiya! Probably one of a few that is coming over to LE from Path of Exile.

Wondering if anyone has any recommendations on decent hardcore builds?

[cedar locust]

You'll probably want to look at he HC ladders to get an idea of what does well! - https://lastepoch.com/arena-ladder

You can then look up builds on LEtools or Maxroll that match the skills being used if you'd like a guide 😁

There's also the HC Legend themselves, @grand shoal who might have advice

[grand shoal]

LOL

https://tenor.com/view/shy-dog-dog-shy-dog-shoes-martian-shy-gif-10611534617383883284

[lean locust]

And now this error continues 😦

Crashing when going to the Keeper's Camp.

I have rerolled a 2nd character to see if that was causing an issue.

Done the usual troubleshooting.
(Change graphic quality, windowed/borderless, fullscreen etc)

Repairing integrity.
Drivers up to date.
Rebootiong etc

Crash to desktop

[lean locust]

Perfect this was the website i needed!

erm, ladder*

[grand shoal]

I played my first full season HC 🙂 But yeah, I'm quite happy with the outcome so far, and not yet done. Guess my LE break is over soonish and I want to push ladder again a bit.

I played a Primalist season, and Primalist and HC goes quite well together. You have awesome tools for damage reduction there and theres some fun builds I tried.
My best recomendation would probably be a Scorpion Nova Beastmaster that transitions into Low Life as soon as you can wear all 3 pieces.

Cookbook made a wonderful Buildguide, let me see if I can find that

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/totemless-poison-nova-scorpion-beastmaster

[neon compass]

Totemless Poison Nova Scorpion Beastmaster Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class

Primalist / Beastmaster

Used skills

• Swipe
• Summon Scorpion
• Warcry
• Eterra's Blessing
• Fury Leap

Used unique items

None

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Beginner / SSF / Melee / Minions / DoT

Created by CookBook · May 26, 2023, 9:42 AM

[grand shoal]

LE Tools is a bit off as soon as ward comes in, but that is what my current char looks like. Actual values are probably a bit lower, but you see the direction 😄

That is btw with empty ring slots, cause my rings are on another character ^^

[cedar locust]

Sorry, I should have asked before tagging you 😫

[lean locust]

@grand shoal Thank you!

This a fantastic start

[cedar locust]

For the crashes - Unity crashes are a pain, open Task Manager and see if a program called UnityCrashHandler is running - if it is, kill it

[lean locust]

I think that fixed it! Just got into the city!

[grand shoal]

Nah, alright. Only don't have that view on myself 🙂

[cedar locust]

Well tough! Cause I do 😝

[hollow sundial]

Are we finally getting character customization? 😍

[storm wren]

The bad from different time zones is appeared again I suppose because when US CST welcome Apr. 2nd, GMT+8 already Apr. 3rd... ;(

so two days after Fool's day

0% fool 🤷‍♀️

[toxic echo]

this is the big ticket stuff we are getting

character custimization isnt on the list. its a pretty big undertaking. its not going to come before content that the game sorely needs

[hollow sundial]

Sadge

Personally content doesn't matter to me if the only way to experience it is by playing as an old man haha

But I am guessing I am in minority here since the game seems to be doing well 😸 gonna check in next season lol

[toxic echo]

yeah. you are generally under so much armor and stuff that custimization isnt high on a lot of peoples lists

but it is acknowledged that its wanted

[hollow sundial]

It's less the looks and more the grunting and the comments from someone who sounds like a boomer 😂

[toxic echo]

lol

you can turn the voice lines off

[hollow sundial]

True, I can also just not play the game haha

Wait, unless you can turn off only your character voice lines and keep all others on? 👀👀👀

Did they add that option or am I misunderstanding you?

[toxic echo]

i know you can mute your own voice line errors

like the fools, fools! and such from mage

i dont think that effect the other voicelines

[hollow sundial]

Omg game changer haha 😍

[wide sentinel]

have you heard of mtx?

im playing LE as genderless void chunck of armor

😅

[hardy holly]

hey just saw the trailer for S2

used to run a skeleton army and got to end game

where it wasn't as fun anymore

how much has the game changed since launch ?

[desert tree]

Not much

Yet

[jovial cypress]

is this intended?

btw on lagon topic
"lmao dude stack up res"
I did and it doesn't seem to help

[desert tree]

Need phys res too, and oof 600 hp

[jovial cypress]

wdym oof? what am I supposed to have on level 53?

2700?

tidal wave said it's cold

[desert tree]

What class do you play?
Do you have any hp anywhere?

[desert tree]

Claw slam is phys and has high stun chance. A bit of Phys res will help yo with that

[jovial cypress]

blade dancer

[jovial cypress]

claw slam barely gets me to half hp

I press shift and I'm full again, claw isn't a problem

[desert tree]

How often does it stun you?

[jovial cypress]

I think never?

I didn't notice anyway

I die to either wave or his prolonged spit

nothing else gets me worried

[desert tree]

The eye beam you need to avoid it, it's a dot and it's brutal

[jovial cypress]

eye bean?

ah right

I tried to roll and it didn't work

[desert tree]

What you called spit

You can't

[jovial cypress]

I guess I'll farm until shift iframe

so I can play hollow knight

respec is very punishing

I hit my head with my keyboard because I forgot this node exists

cringe

[desert tree]

When his eye start turning red you go on one side of the arena, and right when he start the beam you go to the other side

[jovial cypress]

I figured, it just sometimes works sometimes doesn't

ie sometimes it feels he waits for me to get into wrong spot

[desert tree]

For the waves, well if they os you, you need more hp

[jovial cypress]

on the other hand, what level is he? 53?

[jovial cypress]

in worst case I'll invest into silver shroud, I guess

[desert tree]

Maybe? I haven't fought campaign Lagon in years. But he is the same lvl as the area lvl

[jovial cypress]

so I was undelevel back then

[desert tree]

There is one question you haven't answered

Do you have any hp on your gear?

Or what you could do, is trying to get more dmg so the fight is faster

[jovial cypress]

without it I'd have like 200 or so HP less

[jovial cypress]

I tried, I die faster

I'm okay with damage speed, it's just those two attacks I can't reliably avoid

but I will indeed try to farm shift iframe

[dusky kite]

His eye beam needs a bit of getting used to but once you figure it out you'll never die to it again, and with enough move speed or by using Dodge you can avoid his claws too

Like rahyeh it's a fight where you can avoid being hit by any major attack. Or like the emperor. Or like most bosses really.

[jovial cypress]

I still consider dumping into silver shroud to not get OHKO ever

[harsh ravine]

I'm chasing a pair of Mourningfrost boots. Supposedly I can get them by running around echoes in the Spirit of Fire timeline. I'm up to 46 bonus timeline stability on some nodes. I did a reset, I've done the 3 timeline end bosess. Not see a boots symbol or got a drop from bosses at all. I'm running normal timelines because my character is only level 88 and I can't handle empowered monoliths very well (nor can I survive level 3 dungeons). Any other way I can score these boots without going stir crazy ?

[clever echo]

arent the waves in 2nd phase always top then bottom or is it based on where you are at that time?

i never sit still on 1 side long enough using lunge on sentinel to go to other tenticles lol

[clever echo]

are you in circle of fortune guild?

you can target farm unique boot prophecies then while you're farming the designated monolith you could do some prophecies along the way

[harsh ravine]

I'm in the non-trading guild from the campaign. I think I'm in an optional guild based on completing all the timelines to get to empowered. How do I tell which guilds I'm part of ? I can look up prophecies myself as I have not run any at this point

[clever echo]

ive actually forgot the keybind for guilds lol

y maybe?

circle of fortune is the none trading guild though by act 9 you should have the locations for both to travel to and you can choose to swap guilds whenever you want

some caveats to that though

[faint cape]

The target farming available in certain timelines (the orange/green boot symbol echoes in your case) is not very helpful unless you are in empowered since the chance they spawn is scaled by corruption. Your best bets are using your item faction's capabilities (trade or prophecies) and/or using runes of ascendance on any boots you find (if you are in Circle of Fortune, use the rune on boots with the purple eye icon).

[clever echo]

yeah maybe i should leave the help till i get back into the game again lol i also forgot about the runes XD

[hasty tartan]

For Amalgam of Rogues on the bone golem tree, are the bonuses additive or multiplicative?

It isn't clear to me

[clever echo]

#💀┃acolyte if no one gets back to you here about it soon

[hasty tartan]

Thanks

[rigid bobcat]

guys where can i get exalted relics ? which timeline?

[desert tree]

Every where

[harsh ravine]

Y shows you factions but only end game faction. I'm in the circle of fortune guild and the Forgotten Knights in endgame at the moment

[toxic echo]

Global drops. Just gotta get lucky

Or use CoF prophecies

[clever echo]

yeah factions thats what im on about

on that screen look up top it might say "visit observatory"

if not you can ask someone in game for a tp or wait till act 9

cant remember the major towns name

maybe majasa?

[rigid bobcat]

thanks bro

[harsh ravine]

I've finished the campaign so I should be able to go back to the location - which I think you are correct that it is Majasa.
I do have runes of ascendance so I can give those a try as suggested and see what happens

[tender barn]

Sorry if it’s been asked before but I’ve been out of the loop on LE for a while. I just saw season 2 is coming in April but I thought the “seasons” were called cycles in this game. Did that change?

[desert tree]

They changed to season to make it less confusing

They also changed the way they count them

[faint cape]

Temporary spike in confusion, hopefully long-term less confusion 😂

[desert tree]

So it's easier for everyone

[tender barn]

Works for me. Are we going for longer seasons at all or just changing vernacular

[desert tree]

No, they would like to go back to a more "reasonable" pace

[tender barn]

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

[desert tree]

1.2 got pushed back for a number of reason.
Change of focus (community wanted more Endgame) + Technical Debt + Poe2

[clever echo]

yeah just press y and teleport to observatory if its highlighted or go to majasa and walk to the doorway to the left side of the whole town that should bring you to a crossroad. COF is on the right

[jovial cypress]

anyway I got lucky now and rekt him first try

didn't take iframe shift to pull this off

[jovial cypress]

why does smoke do this when I run if I don't run out of range?

[jovial cypress]

what playstyle does this item expect?

[toxic echo]

You running around with a giant ass 2h weapon

[jovial cypress]

thanks

I guess I need to look up some guide on how to choose right? :(

[hasty tartan]

It's more do you enjoy trade or boosted drop rates self found more

[jovial cypress]

do I have to be SF for this or what

[hasty tartan]

Not solo, but circle of fortune is a self-found faction

Doesn't allow trade.

Gives you target farming opportunities and drop buffs instead. MG gives the ability to trade, but items are locked once traded

IIRC they've done a good job balancing so it's probably a playstyle choice

Rather than a pure power choice

[faint cape]

This late into a season, the economy is probably quite dead, so you might have a better experience on Circle but ultimately it's just a choice of whether you like trade or not.

[restive epoch]

Especially as a new player... idk how really easy can it be to do MG as new-ish character this late in cycle 😄

[storm wren]

@shy stream I guess Kain forget something

[sly fable]

Well, self found aside from party play

[storm wren]

For example, Runic Invocation was a big project of mine, designing all the skills and doing some of the VFX for them, and it was quite fun to see everyone experimenting and trying out all the different combos when it released.

Oh 😎 I have talked my feelings about that before indeed hhh

That's the key for the fun of playing runemaster

We are constantly making improvements though, and if you have feedback about any particular enemy or boss, please say something, we do try to read it all and fix what we can.

Oh thanks, remind me of that exactly.
Reason: #💬┃general message
What I want: #1210289386252664962 message

[peak axle]

maybe send the community to hell and make a free trade like in poe, otherwise the game will die without online

[surreal verge]

Well, you wouldn’t be able to trade in offline anyway since you don’t connect to the server and there’s no p2p-

[grand shoal]

Don't need another trading sim 🙏

The balancing around trading is one of the reasons poe lost me long ago. And the CoF|MG thing is one of the reasons to love LE.

Ever thought about, that there may be players with a different taste like you have?

[surreal verge]

Also, save editors lmao, can’t stop that if there’s no server check

[peak axle]

that's why I tell the developers to send the "fans" to hell, otherwise what they are doing is an economic shot in the head.
The online in the game has dropped to 1500 players, this is a shame, the game that once showed promise simply folded under the advice and whining of the "fans", the majority decides and not those few "not like everyone else".

[surreal verge]

Have you considered that if it wasen’t for the “fans” that trade wouldn’t even exist at all?

Devs originally didn’t even wanted to make trade.

[peak axle]

best choice

[surreal verge]

You er, also have to consider it’s been almost a whole year since a content update.(You see that march spike? That’s 1.1 launch)

I dunno, I honestly would have prefered trade never existing at all, but here we are, and I don’t really mind it.

Having free trade right now wouldn’t change the numbers because there’s no content to do right now.

Just like how numbers are always 10% or lower at the end of a poe season.

[peak axle]

the game will be niche like hero siege = death, but at least the fans are happy, they didn't make the game to make money))

[grand shoal]

If its a dead game, why are you even here

[surreal verge]

You just noticed LE is more of a passion game?

As long as they are in the positive I think they’re happy about it, just ask them in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[peak axle]

will be

[surreal verge]

You’re not the first one to ask for free trade, and you won’t be the last one, and will most likely also be told “We don’t want to do that.”

Not because of the fans, but because they don’t want to.

[grand shoal]

And that is what makes me a fan in the end ^^

[surreal verge]

The current trade is already a comprimise from the devs

[peak axle]

then it's a shame to see the developer put a gun in his mouth

[surreal verge]

I dunno, considering their current team size I say they’re doing well, espically since their balancing is… kinda ass

Remember, you can always talk to a dev in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs if you aren’t scared of direct answers.

[peak axle]

like a duping ?

good luck to all of you here, and I'm in poe 2

[surreal verge]

Not even talking about the market issues lmao, just class balancing in general.

[peak axle]

balance for your cheek

[grand shoal]

My condolences, but hf

[surreal verge]

My condolences.

I can’t imagine playing a game slower than LE, and LE is kinda slow.

[storm blaze]

Is it faster or slower than Grim Dawn? I played that for way more than LE but honestly can't remember which is faster

[icy drift]

i'd say le is faster

but depends on build ig

[restive epoch]

Yeah

In GD some of the charger skills if you target an enemy that is like far away, on another height lvl, etc, your character just charges at it and watching it is kinda funny 😄

[calm epoch]

Hello LE community. I've made two rogue builds with that unique that gives 100 ignite duration, so I'm trying figure out if more stacks is better than fewer stacks with 100%+ fire pen. Anyone know which I should use?

[icy drift]

not sure what the options are, but regardless of duration and penetration more stacks always results in more damage if you don't lose something for it

if you are losing something for more stacks we'd have to know all your stats and stuff to know exactly unless it's obvious

if you have 0% pen and go to 100% pen that's practically double damage in most situations, so realistically you can lose up to half your stacks applied and deal the same amount of damage, but it's most likely not that simple

[restive epoch]

If you wanna see a slower game, check this one out... probably one of my more favorite games, even tho it has kinda a loooooooot of bugs, gameplay issues (build making, scaling, respeccing, lvling, forward af story progression, and so on), so I only recommend this to people that are suuuper bored of other games (recently we've tried coop with a friend and couldnt make it work... 😦 )
https://store.steampowered.com/app/7260/Loki/

[calm epoch]

TY for the reply. I think I figured out that more stacks is better than what I'd give up for 100% fire pen. 😀

[jovial cypress]

@icy drift like, level 2 seems lower than 50

[icy drift]

you have it set to show

nothing is hiding anything

if you want it to hide something you have to specify that, the filter does nothing by itself

there's whitelist and blacklist filters, whitelist are when you hide literally every item in the game as your first rule and then make rules above it to show items you want (what i'd recommend and what is most popular). and there's blacklist filters where you show all items (no hide rule at the bottom) and then make rules to hide items you don't want (I wouldn't recommend this approach)

here's a picture of mine, don't worry about what the individual rules do other than the bottom one that hides everything and then above it you can see i make rules to show what i want to see

the ones with a bunch of dashes don't actually do anything, they're just there for the sake of dividing catagories so i can find stuff easier

[jovial cypress]

just not sure how to "hide all unless"

[icy drift]

the hide all items rule is just an empty rule set to hide

and recolour rules are also considered as "show" rules

[jovial cypress]

<- 🤦‍♂️

[icy drift]

rules above are higher priority than those below, so if you have a rule that would hide and item below a rule that would show that same item, the item will show

[jovial cypress]

oh, so devs played their game, great

[icy drift]

so we put a rule at the bottom to hide everything, then make rules above it to show what we want to see

[jovial cypress]

I mean I could just download filter somewhere but it doesn't seem interesting to do

so I appreciate walking through

[icy drift]

for sure, grabbing a filter someone made can be fine but you'll most likely want to either edit it or make your own eventually

and once you know how it works it really doesn't take long to do

my filter is actually super overkill, it basically hides everything except for items that are good specifically for my build since i only play one build and don't trade usually (CoF)

which is why it has so many rules

but you can get away with a filter that has like 10 rules

[amber void]

Apostate's Sanctuary current HP/Ward drain happen before or after Healing Hands initial heal?

[icy drift]

for all intents and purposes it should pretty much be at the same time no? or is there a reason it would matter

you can't kill yourself with apostates if that's what you're worried about

[desert tree]

Note it only applies on Direct use of Spells

[amber void]

i want to try that combo for Divine Bolt

[desert tree]

Oo why take that Amulet ?

[amber void]

testing ideas

[desert tree]

And not smth like Logis Hunter or Confluence ?

Why do you want an amulet that ask you to stack Vitality with a skill that doesnt ask for Vitality ?

[amber void]

like i said, i'm testing ideas, i'm not making something for endgame

[jovial cypress]

I forgot who was asking about mana, here it is

[amber void]

just did the test, first the drain and then the healing

[desert tree]

Thats a lot of Missiles !!

[humble tundra]

I was thinking of making offline character while waiting for new season. Just making sure here, the offline characters wont wipe during season changes or anything right? I understood some content might be restricted when new stuff arrives (until someone does it in online), but is that pretty much it?

[desert tree]

There won't be any wipe
Things just get move to legacy.
Although not sure how legacy/cycle work offline

[storm wren]

both of online and offline will do migrate work on seasonal characters, cycle/legacy work the same with online mode

[humble tundra]

hmm

Surely the legacy characters wont be left behind in content or anything right?

I guess to simplify it, I could make offline character now and (hopefully) i'd be able to hop back on in future seasons with the same character

[desert tree]

Yes

Content for now and the foreseeable future will be 99.99% the same

For exemple season 1 exclusive season content was the last boss fight of the harbinger system

Just that last boss fight

[humble tundra]

oooh yea I get it now

Thank you Pvt.Vlad and Kirra, I'll hop on to grind some offline

[wary raft]

Hello, can I ask a noob question please?

[lean locust]

So played a bunch of classes from 1-20 yesterday and decided to to stick with Sorcerer/Mage.

Love the feel of it!

Is this the ideal levelling guide for a first play through passed level 20?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/sorcerer-leveling-guide

[wary raft]

I used a meteor one but i heard this glacier is even better

I'm only going to use wand (cause of enigma unique catalyst) : Is there any reason for me to keep those item with good affix but are blade, staff and so on?

[desert tree]

If you ever want to re roll

[harsh ravine]

How do prophecies work exactly ? I have 2, which will hopefully land me a pair of Mourningfrost. I've completed both the prophecies. No boots so far. Are the prophecies permanent till you cancel them (so I just run the timeline over and over) ? Also - how do lenses work. If you but them do they apply to existing prophecies or only new ones (so I'd need to cancel the current ones) ?

[surreal verge]

Prophecies, once cleared, will show up as a banner on your screen, and drop the items on the floor.

Lenses only work for new prophecies you will be buying. (EG, it only applies to the telescope it's on, but it's effects stay with the prophecy if you later move the lens)

[jovial cypress]

why is it hidden?

[surreal verge]

The item to the right only has 3 affixes. Your rule is looking for an item with 4 affixes basically.

[jovial cypress]

okay I figured out

I have sundered rules for affixes of very different nature

didn't know it's OR groups not OR items

thank you

sundered affixes to own rules and it works

whatever this means I guess

[surreal verge]

Parry? Yeah.

[harsh ravine]

I completed 2 prophecies. One had a dependency, which I finished. The other had none but I completed the requirements. I don’t recall seeing any banner and the prophecies are still there when I check with snake lady in the Onservatory - should they still be there if done ?

[surreal verge]

They should not be there if they're done, unless it can be completed multiple times.

[jovial cypress]

seems this gambit is more peculiar than previous one 🤔

[harsh ravine]

Ah ... I think I get it now - so I need to do this prophecy twice for it to be complete and the rewards to drop

[restive epoch]

Just gonna leave this here for a bug report... 😄 1% higher cold res above the possible t5 range

[storm blaze]

No
You complete it first time the rewards drop
But you can complete it 2nd time
if it was "Kill Emperor of Corpses 2 times" or something like that then you'd need to kill it twice before the rewards dropped

[restive epoch]

who dis?

[marsh maple]

thats actually unfortunately being rid of next patch with the change to Divine Fury

[storm wren]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1210289869725630554
I wonder do this post still open for feedback yet

The only post that the last message from over 30 days ago

[desert tree]

Is it closed? Or do you have the ability to post in there?

[icy drift]

Your new PFP discombobulated me for a second ngl

[storm wren]

oh ok I can send message = it's still open?

[icy drift]

Yes

[storm wren]

😅 Too quiet there so I'm a bit scared

[azure crow]

Hi guys, Iam currently thinking of playing last epoch again, I have not played in season 1 yet, would it be better to wait for season 2 or go with season 1 now? Thanks.

[toxic echo]

no reason you cant jump in for some S1...its still got 2 months. get used to some of the new things that were introduced

[azure crow]

Thank you, yeah, I think 2 months would be good time for me to atleast get to endgame.

[jovial cypress]

very funny boots item

[desert tree]

?

[jovial cypress]

this one
not sure if it's meant to work with rogue at all

[toxic echo]

its meant to be "any" class

just normally with something that can use ward.

[surreal verge]

It's also for ward builds.

[jovial cypress]

not any class is good friend with wards

[desert tree]

It's strong and allow you to use the Low Life archetype

[toxic echo]

but you can make some jank rogue stuff with it if you build into ward

[jovial cypress]

I don't understand how it isn't killing you completely

how's that supposed to work

[toxic echo]

cuz its % life

so itll never kill

it will balance with health regen at some point

[desert tree]

It's current life not max life drained per second

So the less hp you have the less it drain

[jovial cypress]

so if it's 15% of 100 and you have 16 regen it won't fall under?

[surreal verge]

Yup.

[jovial cypress]

alright fair

[surreal verge]

And 15% of 1 hp is 0 hp.

[jovial cypress]

and how does it work with ward threshold?

it stops draining hp beyond or?

[surreal verge]

No, ward treshold just means your ward cannot fall below X

[jovial cypress]

and how does it work with this item? since by default ward falls off when you get more hp

[surreal verge]

Your ward just literally cannot fall below X. More health=less ward regen, but you don't lose ward if you're at ward threshold.

[jovial cypress]

so if let's say maximum ward I can get is 1000, and threshold is 800, it will go up but never below 800 on its own?

but it will still drain HP? or drain but slower?

I'm either profoundly dumb or game doesn't do the best job at explaining

[surreal verge]

Yup, and you'll still drain hp

[jovial cypress]

no idea what that is

[acoustic thicket]

I started playing ARPGS basically when POE 2 came out. Been playing with a bunch of buddies. We all from a big gaming community. We wanted to make the lap and try all the ARPGS. Hitting up Last Epoch this weekend. What would you all recommend as the most fun builds to hook someone into the game? Something that just feels very very fun to play so they can fall in love with the game. Does not need to be the most hardcore min/max end game build, just stuff that feels fun so they can see if they like the game or not.

[surreal verge]

You'll drain hp as long as you have the affix.

[jovial cypress]

aha, okay I see

balanced

[toxic echo]

really depends on what they consider fun. what class archtypes do they like? speed? big magic booms? minions? tanky sword n board?

all the classes can do all content, and every class has lots of variety. its a very open and approachable game overall...just really depends what you wanna do.

there is no real 'support' class tho...MP is more about synergzing builds that having a dps/support structure

[jovial cypress]

hmmm not bad 🤔
sounds like something BD rogue benefits from

[warped patrol]

Speaking of funny boots. I keep seeing the "of STILLNESS" on items and thinking it says "of SILLINESS".

Do maps reset every time you zone out/in?

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[warped patrol]

Wild. I keep accidentally zoning out/in and noticed the map fog keeps shrinking back down. Well, uh, good for loot?

[surreal verge]

You lose everything on the floor you left, so er...

Debatable.

[warped patrol]

Good for new loot. >_>

It's ok. That yellow junk on the floor was p*** poor anyway. >_>

[surreal verge]

IF you didn't pick it up first, was it really good loot?

[jovial cypress]

I realized loot filter scammed me

[surreal verge]

[jovial cypress]

I suddenly felt urge to press X to spot helmet with innate damage over time
and it was filtered since it's not affix damage over time

not sure how many I'll miss further

[warped patrol]

Okay, loot filter is interesting...Reading about it now. I think I will have to tackle that later.
For the time being, though, I am trying to sort through my stash. I am a feral chaos goblin hoarder.

[jovial cypress]

believe me you'll know when you need it

[jovial cypress]

not that useful because shattering runes aren't infinite and at some point game starts to freeze as hell on each tab switch

[warped patrol]

I purchased a second tab and was wondering if there's a way to easily move items to the new tab from the first one, or if I have to pull them into inventory and put them in the new tab in a 2-step process.

[jovial cypress]

I don't know of easy way

[warped patrol]

Texas Two-Step it is.

[jovial cypress]

one day I'll clean up my dumpster because it's 3 tabs of uniques alone

[warped patrol]

OK. I've moved all these awkward idols to the new tab.

They're like some weird kind of Tetris or Cats Organized Neatly minigame. :/

[tranquil pike]

Is there an attack speed cap? And if so does it apply to minions?

[grand shoal]

Never heard of one, almost certain it is uncapped

[surreal verge]

No hard cap, it’s a matter of having enough sources of it

[tranquil pike]

@grand shoal Perfect. I like my ballistas shooting a million times per second 😂

[grand shoal]

I mean in the end, the sources for AS are finite, but yeah, I heard from some melee builds that really stacked it high. 😄

[jovial cypress]

not enough shapes and space for Backpack Hero like

seems I'm doing something wrong because items with LP don't allow me to do anything with them

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

[harsh ravine]

How do you reset a zone so you can farm monsters in it - I need to kill 5 Siege Golems. There is always one near the Etendell waypoint so fulfilling a prophecy would be fairly easy if I can reload the area 5 times

[warped patrol]

Apparently all you do is leave the zone and go back.

Hrm. Ok, I think I'm stuck somehow. I'm in The End of Time and there's a golden diamond marker, but I can't get to it. It's like it's behind this giant rocky tree type thing.

[harsh ravine]

Yeap that does the trick. I was looking for a button combo, which is how it is done in a game that shall not be named (starts with P and has 3 letters 😁 )

[warped patrol]

Similar for me with another game that starts with the D.

[harsh ravine]

Walk up the stairs - it looks like you can't but you can

[warped patrol]

I kept accidentally zoning out/in and coming back to a fresh map, or portalling to sell and hit up the stash, only to come back to my dropped items gone / reset.

OHHHH! Those are stairs. I live in a split level house IRL. You'd think I'd know steps when I see them.

[harsh ravine]

does it have a number 4 by any chance ?

[harsh ravine]

It's not entirely obvious from the mini map. It looks like there is no route ....

[warped patrol]

Oh...my gosh. There is an adorable void wormy looking thing up these stairs just rolling around in the air. I love him. I shall call him George.

[harsh ravine]

Is there a keyboard key shortcut to check prophecies. Going back to the Observatory is a PITA

[surreal verge]

Faction key, Y by default

[harsh ravine]

That only works if I'm am in the observatory though

Er nvm

[faint cape]

There's two tabs on the menu, one shows faction rank stuff and the other your prophs

[harsh ravine]

Yes - I just found that. I've been looking at the knights one only 🤪

Next question - you earn favour by running around killing things. Is there a formula for how much favour you gain from an echo or completing a timeline. I'm curious what is the best way to earn it as quickly as possible (I can't do empowered timelines at the moment). Also - are reputation and favour the same or different things (I need a17k of reputation to get to level 9)

[toxic echo]

its just based off xp. so there isnt any specifically for beating an echo. just from things that give you xp

rep and favor are different

the game guide goes into the details

[analog ice]

are people able to join you game to help with bosses

[toxic echo]

yeah. #👥┃lfg if you are looking

h menu to invite people

[analog ice]

thank you

[plain haven]

Hey, guys, I got a problem. My wife and I are playing a game. I bought a copy of the game for myself and one as a gift for my wife's account. But in the game we do not see each other in the network, can not add to friends within the game through the H menu - gives an error. At the same time, I can add strangers as friends.

[runic dirge]

question about loot filters. if i make a rule that is looking for at least 2 affixes then set the individual tier to be be 3, are both of them going to be t3 or just one? please and thank you.

[jovial cypress]

I found out that rune of ascencandy disfavours matrial classes

also I "adore" how it doesn't specify if conversion is applied before or after physical bonus, and if so, which one

[faint cape]

Both. The other way is possible by adding another affix condition to the same rule (i.e., 1 affix T3+ and 2 affixes any tier).

[desert tree]

Before

[jovial cypress]

ew
thanks tho

is this okay result for lvl 80 mono?

also I still don't get it, LP means that I spend unique to get a casino affix on it and call it a day?

[toxic echo]

more...merge a unique and exalted to get a casino affix

think you have the right idea tho

legendary items in the game guide goes over the details

[jovial cypress]

it's very conundrous for me or I just suck at reading

[jovial cypress]

and not only it's casino affix but you can't upgrade it?

[toxic echo]

yeah, you wanna finish crafting before the slam

[restive epoch]

you NEED to have 4 affixes on the exalted item (sealed doesnt count) and then it takes random X affixes based on the X LP on unique to put on the unique

[jovial cypress]

decided to unlock bear form only to learn it sucks compared to tempest strike

oh well, I didn't plan to use it anyway

[jovial cypress]

that still sounds like a casino and best I can count on realistically is minor buff 🥺

[restive epoch]

🤷‍♂️ the game doesnt force you to craft legendaries, ofc it helps you to push the corruption higher, but its not a competitive game in the end

[jovial cypress]

leaderboards
not competitive

[restive epoch]

You dont really get anything from being on leaderboard

and if you want to be there, then work for it like everybody whos already there 😄

[jovial cypress]

well, at least unlike poe the crafting in general helps you to progress instead of hindering, that's at least something

so I guess it's fair to the most part

[restive epoch]

A lot of uniques are easy enough to get with 2LP, which is also 50/50 to get whatever affix you want, 3LP can take some time and luck, 4LP is a lot of luck, but definitely not required at all... 1LP of almost anything shouldnt be some crazy annoying process of getting, but slamming some crazy crafted exalted into 1LP is lowkey bad decision... but sure, you can get lucky... if its some common 1LP unique, you can just slam in with the only t6/t7 affix you find without the other 3 being something you super much need... and anything you manage to get on the legendary is already somewhat better than 0LP

ofc it just sucks when you have 3LP, cool exalted with all fancy affixes but the one you reeaaaally want wont hit, it just is what it is

[warped patrol]

Can people group / duo with a buddy easily?

[toxic echo]

Yeah. H menu to invite

[warped patrol]

El Husbando is considering joining me. Is it recommended we both start new characters so we'll be in sync with the questlines?

[toxic echo]

Dont have to

Might have to double back to get passives and idols

But there is no real content restriction

[warped patrol]

Ah, hm. Would I have an option to double back and join his world?

[signal crag]

i'm going to give an example of how hostile this feature is to the playerbase.

imagine you're farming for high runes in D2. you're looking for a Jah. you spend hours, or days, farming for this rune. it finally drops. all of your time has paid off, you've accomplished your goal. the final step is picking it up and looking at it. there is a 50% chance of the tooltip saying it's fake and worthless. you went from accomplishing your goal to accomplishing nothing right at the final step. i don't think the D2 community would accept that kind of system.

that's what slamming is. you've spent all this time finding the right unique with the right amount of LP. you've spent even more time farming for the perfect exalted. you got what you wanted, congrats. but there is a final step that has a large chance to erase everything you just accomplished. it's like having middle finger shoved in your face. farming for the unique and exalted is normal and acceptable. having a chance of wasting all of that time at the last step is not acceptable. i was dead set against using the merchant's guild until i tried it. now i love it, and the main reason is i can brute force slams until i get what i want.

i have a full time job and a family. i don't have that kind of time to waste.

[warped patrol]

I have a full time job and family. I waste a ton of time on games. >_>

"waste"

[lean locust]

So is global chat always a ghost town? I havent seen a single person speak yet o

[warped patrol]

It may be regional? I think what I am seeing is global chat.

Just saw a couple people chatting, in fact.

[lean locust]

🦗 's is all I see haha

Also - is this still a thijng?

I spoke to this fella before seeing this in the guide 😦

[warped patrol]

I talked to him, but I didn't gamble, and I still got Avarice.

[lean locust]

Good to know 🙂

[warped patrol]

Maybe it only means don't gamble with him.

I'm not much of a gambler as a rule. heh

[lean locust]

I am degen gambler lol

But not yet - no gold xD

Oh cool - so it depends more on who you turn the quest into not who you talk too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPAmSzmQZF8

[warped patrol]

Nice.

[restive epoch]

Well... thats Diablo mentality overall. Diablo, again, is made for simple gamers. And those simple gamers expect easy, or nearly free stuff in other gamers otherwise "uhuh, game bad"
It doesnt take me some crazy amount of time to find some sort of "pert unique or perfect exalted", I play with what I get, I chill farm with it in 500-1000 corrupt, I dont have need to get some insane gear or OP build to push higher, If I get some bad item I either keep it, throw it away or just play some more to get another one. The system wont change so suddenly there are easy slams with perfectly rolled stats or anything like that for people that have few hours a week to play... play Diablo then. I got a full tiem job aswell, ofc without family I got more time, but Ive seen this attitude in other games awell, people with simply not that much time want same results as people that invest way more time into the game than those without it. Either play it and play with what you got, its a game to have fun, if you dont like the system and dont have fun, than idk... game isnt for you?

[warped patrol]

Mine.

My baddie feral chaos goblin hoarder inventory.

[restive epoch]

#1210282176680169562 if you got some ideas, you're free to post them there and who knows, maybe some if it will get into the game at some point, but for sure I dont see the system being changed for a tiny minority of playrbase

[rain oyster]

Uhh is this normal?

[storm wren]

Will my points on my account all the time even the cycle is reset or new cycle is started?
2. Can I get access with new costumes which le maybe updated in their Ultimate Edition in the future after I own this edition?

oh wait I can just buy points... Great

Don't buy any costumes by my points until 1.2 is out :) Points in my wallet already

[mossy shadow]

So i'm organizing my stash, but why does the TAB keep getting mess up the order I want each time I log out? Example would be if u look at Exalted "Accessories" tab isn't suppose to be in there

why is the tab switching around? messing up my organizing.

[lean locust]

Do the vendors ever have decent gear like in D4? Or is it mostly random bases that are mediocre and used for forging?

[ancient cipher]

Quick question... Rip Blood... Eviscerate and Thirst. Eviscerate makes Rip Blood cost +6 mana, Thirst is supposed to reduce it by 1/level. Doesn't appear to be functioning... Is it a bug?

[signal crag]

orion's eye makes it so you don't need any void resist, right?

[desert tree]

Correct

[desert tree]

Base cost is 3
Eviscerate add 6 =9
Thirst reduce mana cost by 3 (at Max lvl) so you should be at 6

If you have a wand you probably reduce that by another 3

[surreal verge]

Crap, they're only used if you're desperate.

[faint cape]

This is currently disabled, but whenever it gets reworked/fixed, normally turning the quest in to the Gambler gives a Gambler's Fallacy unique amulet.

[faint cape]

Yeah potentially, if you're just logging in on a legacy character after a while. They lowered the amount of reputation you need to rank up at some point and that probably caused this wonkiness. Should fix itself when you get more rep or merge stash or something, if not then bug report it.

[acoustic thicket]

is there a way to auto vendor everything like in d4? I can just dismantle it all with the blacksmith? Or I have to click through and sell every item?

[surreal verge]

No, and honestly you shouldn't be vendoring stuff, they sell for pennies. 100 gold on the floor is worth your whole inventory of items.

[acoustic thicket]

so what should I be doing with all the loot?

[surreal verge]

Dropping them like it's hot and ignoring them if you don't need/use them.

[acoustic thicket]

wait really lol?

[surreal verge]

Really. Portaling also resets the instance.

[acoustic thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20774183

[grand shoal]

It's great, isn't it?!

[desert tree]

Oo where did it go ?

[jovial cypress]

question: will ny grandchildren finish the university before I get first lightless harbor key?

or there's some place to actually get one?

[grand shoal]

First campaign playthrough I guess?

[jovial cypress]

second

my rogue is level 76 and I've not seen a single harbor key

[grand shoal]

U find 1 of each keys guaranteed in one of the later campaign levels in those chests that are around, but I always forget where to get which key.
Once you hit monoliths you find plenty of all the keys

[jovial cypress]

well that's false for me
quite a number of arena keys, some sanctum ones too
0 harbor

also I remembered maybe one of dumbest questions: what's the reason that some trees allow getting chance above 100%

[grand shoal]

Some things, like Ailments can have a chance above 100%.

Let's take the example you have 150% bleed chance. That means each hit will apply at least 1 Bleed, with the chance of 50% to apply a second second stack

[jovial cypress]

LMAO

is this written down somewhere?

[desert tree]

what's the reason that some trees allow getting chance above 100%

• Some stats can scale with the uncapped number (uncapped means with whatever the number is, no matter its capped)
• What Volin just said about Ailment
• Also getting the right amount of stats is part of the gearing proccess

[desert tree]

Press G, open In game guide

Search for Ailment

https://tenor.com/view/hugh-jackman-wow-jesus-omg-amazed-gif-9962334

Randych opening the In Game Guide for the 1st time

[jovial cypress]

basically

[grand shoal]

🤣

[desert tree]

I have to admit for How good it is, it's not advertise enough

It should have at least a quest asking you to open it and search for 10 different topics

[jovial cypress]

well yeah

especially since it's just in esc menu and that's it

[desert tree]

There is a pop up once I believe 😅
You know one of the 5-8 pop up you get in the beginning and you discard straight away

[drowsy jungle]

Damn u hit hard

When i play the game, i always hit the quest, never ever touch the G button

[desert tree]

My wife biggest complaint

[jovial cypress]

to be fair, I've learned about existence of the guide

through 2 second tip on loading screen

and I forgot soon after because must shank stuff

[grim agate]

hi all, i started playing yesterday and today i got this popup, what should i click?

[restive epoch]

Well Legacy is where characters stay permanently and Legacy is like a season where you make a fresh character with zero progress (thats if its your first cycle character) and it stays in Cycle for X months, the next Cycle starts in April

[marsh sluice]

Cycle characters are seasonal characters. When a season ends your characters move to Legacy.

No real difference what you pick as of right now, so might as well pick Cycle.

[grim agate]

ok thanks

[mossy shadow]

SO.... to follow-up on Cycle vs Legacy.

If you are OLD time player and new season comes up in April 2nd

What is the more typical choice to go for new season? Cycle? or Legacy?

[surreal verge]

Cycle, for the fresh start and fresh economy (If going MG)

[mossy shadow]

if going for Circle of Fortune?

mostly want to farm my own stuff

[restive epoch]

Then you dont really care, it only comes if you want to start fresh or keep playing with your farmed stuff... afaik there shouldnt be any content in Cycle that wont be in Legacy with the new cycle

[mossy shadow]

Oh Thank you

was wondering if Legecy has some restriction beside you able to use your old character.

But since new season is the same for new cycle vs legacy. No problem then, Thank you.

[mossy shadow]

Question:

I read that NEW legacy character only can "remove-only" item from your first Cycle Character once they transfer.

So how does STASH work for NEW legacy character? do they still have their own stash too? or they rely on the first character's old stash.

Sorry not familiar with this.

[restive epoch]

New legacy characters can use whatever you hoarder since the release of the game

[mossy shadow]

okay, so does that mean new legacy char. will use the same old hoarded stash from my first or have its own stash? (where I need to buy new stash tab each time again)

[surreal verge]

You need to buy new ones/use old ones from legacy, old past cycle stashes cannot be used to store new stuff.

[mossy shadow]

OHHH

thats the "remove-only" part

Thank you.

[mossy shadow]

Context? did PoE2 did something?

[restive epoch]

PoE1 new stuff delayed for quite some time

[uneven barn]

Told us to suck it up as there wont be PoE league for who knows how long, since their PoE 1 team is sitting on their Golden Egg

[mossy shadow]

Oh that.... and the while EHG suddenly release date for Season 2 lol

[mossy shadow]

it was inevitable?

Looking at how PoE2 is right now.

[uneven barn]

They promised two teams, independant, for Poe1 and Poe2

[mossy shadow]

Oh.

[desert tree]

They seem to have to independent teams.

But right now they are on the same game

[desert tree]

?

[icy drift]

Basically the game director for Poe 2 pulled the poe 1 team to work on poe 2, so they're not "independant" from the poe 2 team since the director of poe 2 is able to yoink resources from them when he feels fit, which imo should be the case, but i think that's what they're arguing, that the poe 1 team isn't actually independant and that they just usually work on poe 1 but that it can change at basically any time.

And i'm sure the poe 2 director didn't just make the decision by himself and it was most likely a desicion made by all the higher ups including chris and the others

[jovial cypress]

being cold garbage

[restive epoch]

Looks like... the settlers really settled in...

[molten phoenix]

hii are there any seasonal rewards for playing now?

[toxic echo]

nope

[molten phoenix]

oh 😦 wanted to get back to the game

umm do HC character share storages?

[toxic echo]

they can

depends on if you pick the solo challenge when you create

[molten phoenix]

but if i die i wont be able to accesss the storage of HC right? 😮 or can HC share with normal characters

[toxic echo]

if you doe on hc, you get moved to sc, so your hc stash is no longer accessible

[molten phoenix]

do the item in the stassh get deleted? or it stays there for the next HC character

[storm blaze]

They stay there

[molten phoenix]

ah thanks guyss

o7

[mossy shadow]

I can never fandom those people that play HC and pushing 1000+ corruption

insane

[restive epoch]

Its definitely cool to see 😄

[mossy shadow]

i just want to enjoy seeing big numbers and loot dopamine man, and not rage on 1 hit killed* by bosses and lose eveything, man.

but different player, have different way of how they play, to each their own, i guess.

[molten phoenix]

how often do new skins get released? 😦 cant wait for a staff skin

[mossy shadow]

maybe in season 2? especially the pet system. As i watch Aaron's livestream summary of the dev. they saying pet will have some use

would be nice if pet can at least get all the miss out gold lol

[restive epoch]

Yea some new stuff in store in April with 1.2 patch, I doubt there would be anything before... I kinda hope we'll get a full set for Dreadforged (only got helmet rn))

[mossy shadow]

and i question how they keeping the game alive if no store skin and such, and long cycle unlike how D4 is doing that we all know is a bit controversial already

[frigid badge]

I have 3.4k hp, capped res, 60% endurance but I still seem to get one shot by T4 Julra and Abberoth.

Am I missing something or am I just bad.

[toxic echo]

MTX is usually every season, yeah

[toxic echo]

depending on your class...there could be some things like armor or generic DR that you are missing.

but generally t4 Julra, Aberroth, and Arbor boss all have legit one shot mechanics you just have to avoid

[frigid badge]

LVL 92 Void Knight, I think I have around 6k armour?

[toxic echo]

yea that sounds pretty normal

VK's are squishy tho. its really just about not getting hit on the true one shot mechanics

or, generic DR, like from a red ring

[restive epoch]

They both have attacks that hit reeeaaal hard even with all defensives being maxxed out/high 💀

[small void]

Is it a bug, that my cosmetics aren't shown in character selection screen??

[toxic echo]

yeah, but its very well known

it works internally, but not on live...its been a mystery for a while. lol

hopefully 1.2

[small void]

Wait - so it works for the devs but not for us? xD

[toxic echo]

yes. lmao

[small void]

Dafuq xD As an IT engineer in my work time i have a hard time figuring out, exactly what could cause this xD

Anyway - let's hope they find out.. 😛

[toxic echo]

yeah. hopefully 1.2 has it proper

[small void]

I hate not being able to see my expensive stuff 😄

(It's very reasonable priced)

They write, "Gamepad improvements" in future updates - but.. Hasn't it already been revamped once after 1.0 launch?

[desert tree]

Some attacks are meant to be dodge

[desert tree]

they saying pet will have some use
This is a big stretch. They don't want pet to have any fonction other than being a cosmetic. However if they ever change their mind and make pet auto loot they will give a pet to every one, and there won't be any difference in fonctionality between pets

[mossy shadow]

true, but i hope they have some mechanism for all the drop gold you might have miss. i'm being greedy and stingy that all those miss out gold can accumulate over time and i could have gotten a new 100k gold worth of new stash tab

xD

but yeah re-watching aaron's video... free pet for all but no plan for now. oh well

[small void]

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[desert tree]

Careful, you pasted your password

[small void]

That would be my kid ... sneaking onto my keyboard..

[vernal sail]

does anyone know of a way to get better performance

it plays pretty well but when my screen has some of the enemies that constantly spawn other enemies it lags a ton once my screen gets full

[desert tree]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1230194460164362350

Check in there

Maybe smth will help you

[vernal sail]

thankies 🙂

[jovial cypress]

@trim heath here's example with rune of ascendance: it heavily disfavours martial classes, I don't have 90000000 runes to get better data but I've got a feeling that it's bit rigged

another thing is I've browsed through sets on some website and there's just nothing for rogue for example, there are even idols for shadow damage/mana but no sets, it's just weird

[surreal verge]

Rogue has a single set. If it helps, almost all set items are crap, and each class only has one class-exclusive set, except Acolyte that has none.

You can also use this for Rune of Ascendance possibilities: https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/roa-chance

It's a bit biased because it can't make boss-only drops.

Wait, you got a wrongwrap?

[jovial cypress]

got what

[trim heath]

Wrongwarp is the wand in that screenshot

[surreal verge]

And also, you used a rune of ascendance on a wand, you're getting a wand.

[trim heath]

And I'm sorry but that's way too small of a sample size. You could pretty easily get 100% martial or 100% caster in that many rolls.

[jovial cypress]

I think I used it on mace but ok, anyway for non weapons it's still there

[trim heath]

It's not weighted specifically one way or the other, we could work it out using tunklab or Le tools pretty easily though

[surreal verge]

Then you might have a bug. Rune of Ascendance is supposed to give you the same type you put in.

[jovial cypress]

sigh
do you want me to use cheatebngine with offline mode to go through 1000 runes of ascendance?

[surreal verge]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/roa-chance
We have a site for it.

[trim heath]

No, we can just look at the math

[frigid badge]

Anyone have a workaround for the offline stash tab issues?

• order not preserved between login
• deleted collection re-appears

[restive epoch]

Its kinda weird why acolyte doesnt have any acolyte-only sets... Lich's set is obviously for acolytes but no acolyte class tag 🤔

[trim heath]

We stopped making sets. We will start up again soon.

[surreal verge]

For Rings:
5 Minion
7 Generic
5 Caster
2 Martial

According to RoA rates.

[jovial cypress]

I also liked how game pushed me falconry armor but there's no blade dancer armor 😂

[desert tree]

Not sure I agree with no Acolyte only set

Isadora

The one from Soulfire Bastion

[surreal verge]

Not class locked-

But it IS made for acolyte

[surreal verge]

Technically, it exists

Now, the fair complaint is there is no armour made for marksman

[jovial cypress]

did I mention uniques that are cold garbage?

I think someone else did this a hundred times

[surreal verge]

There's a lot of uniques that are garbage.

Or are too niche.

[jovial cypress]

nonono

too niche, like hp to ward boots is fine

but trash ones like ones with identity crisis, are sad

[surreal verge]

(To be fair, until like area level 50, your unique pool is kinda bad, so you could keep seeing the same garbage)

[restive epoch]

There are uniques for Bladedancer, but I also keep getting more gear for Falconer (very often with pretty good rolls too + LP)... 😄

[surreal verge]

Like your ring example, you only have 3 garbage things, and 2 of those are sets.

The rest have their use.

[rare burrow]

wait you can get ravenous void from runes huh neat

[jovial cypress]

bd uniques? is that so

[surreal verge]

Yeah ravenous is a pretty unique unique in that it's BOTH a boss drop and a random drop.

[restive epoch]

1h sword for Dancing Strikes, 2h sword for Lethal Mirage... maybe some more

[jovial cypress]

2h sword
rogue

[surreal verge]

It's a unique you literally play around.

It's very... special.

It makes the bad skill into decent, to be fair.

[restive epoch]

So far its like the coolest build on BD Ive played yet... both fun and cool

[jovial cypress]

I'll take your word for it I guess, because on its own mirage is honestly trash

[surreal verge]

Yeah, surprisingly it turns mirage into a decent skill.

It fixes literally one core issue.
NO ANIMATION LOCK.

Making it at least 10x more useful than it was.

[restive epoch]

Yea on its own its a bit meh, but Ive quite enjoyed it with bleed=>puncutre pop... + i-frames on it can be quite nice too to time some boss mechanics right

The worst part is farming Lagon+Harbringer for the sword... 😄

[jovial cypress]

cool, what's its name though?

but I still kinda doubt this because it locks you out of best skill bd rogue has

[faint cape]

It doesn't fix LM's targeting though, unfortunately

[faint cape]

Black blade of chaos, or something like that

[jovial cypress]

and I guess time for tough questions
how to make the story make sense

[mortal siren]

Can shredding resistance go into negative like penetration?

[trim heath]

Yes, it would be an extremely useless stat if not as enemies have 0% all res unless otherwise stated.

[jovial cypress]

also I will ask again: why paid OST is incomplete

[surreal verge]

Cascade? Shift can still trigger it if you need it.

Thought the build for black blade of chaos doesn't have the skill slots for it....

[jovial cypress]

once in 3s is too low

very low compared to spamming sync + cascade

[surreal verge]

fair, but at that point they're different builds.

Since the mirage build is about abusing mirage to have like 1-2 second cooldown, buffing it's damage, and having the mana gen back to spam it.

[jovial cypress]

I also don't understand if mirage benefits from 4 shadow sync or not

description is very cryptic and result is even more cryptic

also it's funny that 4 shadow perk is detrimental until you get a quite amount of mana and regen

[surreal verge]

It does not unless mirage is specced with the Shadow Eater node.

Mirage doesn't touch shadows at all without that node.

[jovial cypress]

and when it does, does it benefit that much

because I couldn't make mirage do any substantial damage

[restive epoch]

Isnt that used for mana regain tho

[jovial cypress]

spamming cascade to make bosses have 40-60 bleed stacks works better for me

[jovial cypress]

you spend 14 mana, get back 16
which is less than 1 mana per second refund

[surreal verge]

It applies 1 more hit per shadow and the node after it gives it +10% more damage per shadow. It would be decent if mirage had a decent damage base.

Which it doesn't without uniques

[jovial cypress]

so it's not my skill issue, okay

[surreal verge]

Iirc it's a must take for either black blade build, since we can spam mirage.

[jovial cypress]

yeah 10s cooldown in a world where you can cast about 8 sync, cascade and 3 shifts is rough

must admit I'm quite a fan of uniques which allow you to make your whole personality about them
wish there were more items like this

[restive epoch]

Idk, my Shift cd is 2s with 11.5mana cost and it regains me like 40-50mana with active shadows, but idk if that works in SynchS build

[surreal verge]

BlackBlade has mirage cooldown refund on hit, which makes mirage a 1-2 second cooldown skill, assuming you have the mana to mantain it.

[restive epoch]

I drop about 2 Mirages per second if all hits hit 😄

[jovial cypress]

maybe you have some cdr on items, which I don't

1s doesn't make difference here

[jovial cypress]

I don't think it hits that fast actually

[restive epoch]

Probably... Ive tried Synch Cascade build once and felt kinda boring to me

[jovial cypress]

I mean, I don't think there's any class which you need to play like piano

you get to the point where it gets boring or weak, to what I saw

I like sync cascade aesthetically and that's what matters to me

[restive epoch]

Yea it looks very cool for sure

[jovial cypress]

if I wanted to rekt everything I'd took whatever does that, judging by uniques it's necromancer

and maybe spellblade

[jovial cypress]

because I liked Zed in lol

[surreal verge]

In acolyte, warlock is the broken one, tho necro is a close 2nd.

[jovial cypress]

dammit EHG, I just wanted to play lich :(

[surreal verge]

Lich does have 2 top tier setups, but you're playing poison and juggling two buffs constantly

[jovial cypress]

born to play lich, forced to play runemaster

[jovial cypress]

about jiggling, I went to a dungeon once, saw a fiery arena and switched to fire protection, got oneshot and never came back

[surreal verge]

Oh, our dps check dungeon fire lich.

he will kill any build fast, even tanky ones, so his whole thing is to delete him first before he can delete you

[jovial cypress]

he didn't give me a chance

like he oneshot me in about 2 seconds after fight started

guess it's because I switched buff

I can't call that a good design

[surreal verge]

the floor is a death hazard ( which you noticed but probably swapped too early) and his skills hit like a truck

[jovial cypress]

then why he's not level 100 dungeon???

[restive epoch]

Stygian Lich, as I call it "walking rave lich" is something that aesthetically looks cool af, I gotta try it at some point...

[jovial cypress]

lich of immortal rave fired up by rave lord Neato

[surreal verge]

because the lv 100 version is even more painful.

[jovial cypress]

okay, one question: why

[surreal verge]

Your guess is a good as mine, but the non T4 versions are doable if you don't mistime your shield

The floor damage isn't always active

[jovial cypress]

reference sauce (please don't hurt me)
(it's louder than you might expect)

we need quest where Immortal Emperor gets dethroned by Cult of Immortal Rave and Immortal Citadel gets renamed to Immortal Ravedel

[lean locust]

Is there a way to see your merchant gains without having to open the window?

[toxic echo]

Nope

[lean locust]

Cool thank you 🙂

[honest birch]

Please put a volume warning

[jovial cypress]

I forgot it's above -6dB :(

[runic dirge]

Thank you

[jovial cypress]

well, I realized that I need to be very specific about what I'm saying

because "guys I came to realization I feel I'm underperforming without BBC on me and getting it would prove beneficial"

doesn't sound that appropriate 💀

[honest birch]

That was way louder then that. It hurt my ears and it was from the phone speakers

[jovial cypress]

yeah it's +0,1 :(

[jovial cypress]

is there anyone who has spare time and breath to tell me how can I effectively showcase my gear and give me advice on what can be improved

[toxic echo]

The easiest way is to import/look up your character on lastepochtools build planner and post the link so others can see it

[lean locust]

I have been runnig around this entire zone and cannot find how to get to The Fallen Tower

Working on this quest

[jovial cypress]

woah, what a tech!

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0mOPaZB

[neon compass]

Bladedancer, Level 76

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (64)

General:

▸ Health: 1,032, Regen: 35.57/s
▸ Mana: 188.38, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 21 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 56% / 23% / 5% / 11% / 0% / 33% / 102%
▸ EHP: 1,713 / 1,341 / 1,199 / 1,344 / 1,165 / 1,436 / 2,038

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 406
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (594)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (612)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Umbral Blades (21)
• Shift (21)
• Shadow Cascade (21)
• Synchronized Strike (21)
• Smoke Bomb (21)

Used unique items:

• Arek's Bones
• Fighting Chance
• Gambit of an Erased Rogue

[jovial cypress]

actually I keep forgetting class channels exist

[toxic echo]

You are missing tons of res. Have no dex. Low dodge/glancing blow. Low hp (even for rogue). Fighting chance increases your dmg taken. And wtf are you doing with areks bones as a weapon.

[jovial cypress]

armor shred

I've virtually negative integer of idea how to make dodge/gb higher because I laboured like never before to get it to at least this

[toxic echo]

Just...put armor shred on a dagger...or sword...or really anything

[jovial cypress]

never seen this much on anything else so far

and I'm very unlucky when it comes to affixing from scratch

previously I had axe with 160% something dot

[toxic echo]

Just craft it. Even t5 is 124-175 armour shred chance

Plus you get actually useful implicits and 3 other affixes at minimum

And armour shred does nothing for dot

Which is what all your idols are

What are you actually building

[jovial cypress]

something good

[toxic echo]

Nah

Dont think so

Lol

[jovial cypress]

or more specifically, I smash face against the keyboard to spam sync + cascade + shift, sometimes smoke
and it does the job so far

[harsh ravine]

Trying to setup an idol filter that ONLY shows stout and large idols with %inc health+health or %inc health+%elemental res for Rogue character. On Stout idol it can be classless. On Large I would prefer just Rogue.
I don't want to see any idols that don't have 2 of these affixes. I tried setting up a filter to only show idols with these stats under General idols (since Rogue idols do not have these in their filter category).
Can't see to get it to work. I'm using "show" instead of recolour (I don't think that really matter). Any idea how I can this to work ?

[jovial cypress]

that's how it works out for me so far

[toxic echo]

Make sure you have a hide all other idols

[jovial cypress]

how so if bleed is physical damage 🤨

[toxic echo]

Sure...like you are in normal monoliths. Nothing impressive is going on there. That just looks like a mediocre shadow daggers build. You are building phys dot on idols, but not getting tons of bleed stacks. And not building crit for shadow daggers

[toxic echo]

Bleed is phys dot. Armor works on hits

Literally does nothing for your really small bleed stacks

[jovial cypress]

sorry how much I'm supposed to have? 300?

[toxic echo]

Good dot builds easily get 300+ yeah

Now you arent max lvl, so you need gear and stuff

[jovial cypress]

are we playing the same game

[toxic echo]

You the one who asked for help

If you dont wanna listen

Thats fine

[jovial cypress]

no, I'm just confused

I do want an advice, I just don't always understand how come

[toxic echo]

300-400 is base for a decent dot build. Hitting the visual cap of 999 is quite doable. 60 is campaign levels of stacking

Most of your dmg is coming from shadow dagger crits

[jovial cypress]

I've virtually no idea where to get 300-400

[toxic echo]

Start with you are using areks bones

[torn sierra]

by crafting gear that fits your build instead of just using random junk items

[jovial cypress]

random junk?

I was tweaking filters for 30 minutes back and forth to get exactly these items

[toxic echo]

Ya most of your gear is bad for a dot build

[jovial cypress]

they might be bad but I put an effort in them :(

[toxic echo]

Yeah

I mean you are still in normal monos, so, you havent even unlocked all the bases yet

And cant get t7 drops

[jovial cypress]

it's quite a downer that armor shred is useless for me

[jovial cypress]

I goddamn knew it that I'm physically unable to get better items
just didn't have proof...

[toxic echo]

Nah. You can literally juat craft better items

Right now, than what you have

But the t7 exalted drops dont happen until area lvl.90

But honestly your main hand areks bones is reeeeeaaaally bad.

Get a dragonbone axe

And craft bleed chance on it

[jovial cypress]

okay, I thought it's lack of skill or lack of luck when I've seen [phone]% badassitude items
turns out it's just matter of levels, good to know

[jovial cypress]

ah yes, totally obvious information that TIL

I mean, could I really complain that game mechs are deeper than I thought? maybe not

if I outright knew that over 100 chance does anything, I'd, well

I'd make many decisions different

is it my fault that I didn't know since I didn't watch 9000 guides? yeah
do I regret going almost blind up until now? not really, I had a blast

[harsh ravine]

I have only selected Stout and Large. No other idols are showing up, but the idols that do show up have different properties on them that I'm not interested in. I just want idols that have 2 of the health stats or 1 health and 1 resistance stat.

[toxic echo]

Just get a better main hand, get ANY glove that doesnt increase dmg taken. Thats step 1. Step 2, just generically look for better rings and belt

[jovial cypress]

no other glove item has this much +dmg

and believe me I've looked around

[toxic echo]

If you dont tell the filter to hide all other idols...it will still show them. Just at the bottom of the filter hide all.idol bases

[jovial cypress]

but since I know about bleed chance, I may look in that direction

[toxic echo]

No...YOU are taking increased dmg with those gloves

[torn sierra]

your gloves are terrible, Fighting Chance are one of the worst things you could use

[jovial cypress]

because before now I was getting bleed, esp on nodes, to like 50-100 and call it a day

[toxic echo]

Also, melee dmg does nothing for bleed either

[jovial cypress]

I die to oneshots anyway

[jovial cypress]

well, you mean that even with style I play phys dmg on its own is useless since I invested so far into bleed damage?

I actually keep forgetting it's not poe2 where it does matter

[toxic echo]

You really need to lean into phys melee, or phys dot. Doing both isnt gonna get you far

But you know what, you do you. Experiment. Its your first build, iirc. Go play the game and learn. Experience is the best teacher

[jovial cypress]

as you can see I suck ass as student of this teacher

[toxic echo]

Lol

[jovial cypress]

but you indeed gave me more information than I hoped for

[toxic echo]

Just learn. My first build was also.not great.

[jovial cypress]

because you taught me not "lol kek lmao take this item haha" but explained where my build has whistling cracks and why

[toxic echo]

But fr, change the weapon, change the gloves. Get some hp. Craft better gear

[jovial cypress]

I'm trying to speedrun to level 90-100 monoliths and it's a bit... repetitive

[toxic echo]

You dont necessarily have a bad idea...just lacking the game.knowledge of what to look for and how to synergize. Thats gonna take time

[harsh ravine]

I might not be following you correctly. I only see stout and large with the "show" filter, so I already only see the idols I want to see (no large, no giant and so on).
The idol that do drop though show are showing more affixes than what I'm interested in. I don't need a hide filter, unless you are saying I need the same filter for stout and large but with everything I DON'T want in that filter ?

[jovial cypress]

well, I was under impression in good faith, in sense I had specific idea but it was just mechanically incorrect idea

[toxic echo]

You should prolly have 3 seperate idol.rules, just to make it easy. One for showing the stout, one for showing the large, and one to hide all idols that dont match

And on affixes, make sure you go into the advanced options and make it so both have to be on there

[harsh ravine]

Damn - I was hoping to avoid too many rules but I'll try as you suggest with seperate rules and see if I can get it working.

[toxic echo]

Tbf its really hard to troubleshoot filters without being im charge of the mouse

[jovial cypress]

believe me it's way better than lots of rules in one place

makes it much easier to debug

as someone suggested, you are free, unpaid and unrestricted to make empty rules with delimiter labels

[harsh ravine]

Honestly - there should be a seperate channel for filters. One you start drilling down in them they can become quite complex and take up a lot of chat space in this channel

[harsh ravine]

Which affix section of the filter rule. This is what it looks like at the moment. Is this correct or do I need to go into the advanced tab and configure one or both of those as well (my understanding is these are only for the tier value, which may or may not be important)

[toxic echo]

That should be fine.

Try dropping some of the idols that you didnt want on the ground

If they still show, hit shift+f and there should be a number in ( ), that will tell you what rule is making them show

[harsh ravine]

I did that - the idols that I think should not show up are. When I try to find what rule they are covered by there is no number next to them, which means they are not being covered by any rule, as I understand it. That includes the hide idols rule, which does work for other idol types I don't want to see and is not class specific). Let me pull up some screenshots of the idols I'm testing with

Got it ! As well as the show (I change it to a recolour) you have to include both the stout and large idols in the hide rule as well. As soon as I did that it hide all the idols that did not have at least 2 of the stats I want

[jovial cypress]

behold, I present you my filter with very serious name

time to browse through my tiny federal reserve stockpile to look for something better

[jovial cypress]

this is my previous weapon

[jovial cypress]

you may ask why minion damage?
because 3 glyph of chaos minion damage rerolls in a row

[lean locust]

I know its RNG - but is there a way I can target farm a wand or staff upgrade? I havent been able to get an upgrade for 10 levels, and bricked everything haha

[stone granite]

Use your faction to do it

[jovial cypress]

never seen this before
guess it's really new items later :o

I did something and now I got it quite ironic

whatever this set's idea was it's beyond me

I'm sorry wtf is this set 🤣

[jovial cypress]

seems reorg already starts to pay off

[lean locust]

I am not quite to act 9 yet - so not sure what I can do until I have access to the factions

[robust kelp]

Does anyone know if WW items can roll experimental affixes? (i.e. Swaddling of the Erased w/ experimental ward per missing health) And if they can, does anyone know how likely or unlikely it is to roll approximately?

[torn sierra]

They cannot. The only two sources of items with experimental affixes are exiled mages or by using a glyph of insight.

[stone granite]

I wouldn't worry too much about it until you are past the campaign then, you'll get plenty of upgrades

[jovial cypress]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-daggers-bladedancer-guide
are we playing the same game? I've never seen even remotely close numbers for blessing or weapons in the game

[faint cape]

Blessings roll higher in the level 100 version of the monolith. Similar with the other items, in level 90+ zones you are able to get items that drop with T7 affixes, which are roughly double the power of T5 affixes.

[surreal verge]

Assuming it drops the T7 affix you want, of course.

[restive epoch]

"Salt the Wounds" gloves and "Valdyr's Chalice" relic ftw

[jovial cypress]

first harbor key 😌

[restive epoch]

Dont die!

[jovial cypress]

thanks I will

so you want to say that I was terminally blind and comfort was under my nose ALL this time

🤦‍♂️

[restive epoch]

Yea its a nice thing to have... but for some reason it doesnt say how much mana you get 🤔 I think it should be 5

[jovial cypress]

it does, I just cropped it

[jovial cypress]

I like how by developers vision it all always comes to same

and here I am sunder slapping myself from the past who was yapping 60 bleed stacks is a lot

[cedar locust]

Have a look at my Very Serious ™️ Loot Filter name 😅

[dusky kite]

sup folks, from my testing it appears that this node in Dread Shade doesn't have any effect on the buff on my character with Symbiotic Apparition allocated, can anyone confirm?

[clever oak]

Hi, would the implicit spell damage get increased by fire/elemental damage for a spell like smite? or should it need fire spell damage to get increased by the modifiers?

[dusky kite]

spell damage is adaptive so it gets added to the spell in accordance with the spell's base damage type(s). At that point it will get increased by modifiers like +% increased fire damage and so on

[clever oak]

sweet, thank you.

[cedar locust]

Does anything change on your character sheet?

[dusky kite]

it didn't occur to me to look at the character sheet but the actual damage against the dummy didn't change between 100% hp and 0%

nor did the damage change between 0% hp without and with this node allocated for that matter

[cedar locust]

Do you have the All for One node?

[dusky kite]

no as I suspected that wouldn't work with Enemy of my Enemies

but this node doesn't have any text that would logically preclude that

[cedar locust]

Hmm, let me see if I can find anything. Have you put an IGBR in?

[dusky kite]

no cause my next step would be to ask mike if that's intended or not

[cedar locust]

Good plan

[surreal verge]

It MIGHT fall under "It's not a benefical buff"

Which is weird, and you should ask mike lmao

[dusky kite]

I mean it may but I don't see why it should

but I was wondering if anybody did a more detailed testing cause I just did some cursory hitting of the dummy

which was already not promising

[jovial cypress]

is there any way to boost the chance of particular drops?

[cedar locust]

Blessings, Echo Reward types, Lenses/Prophecies in the CoF Faction iirc

If you're after a particular item, you can look it up in LETools and see where is best to farm it 🙂

[jovial cypress]

so location matters???

[cedar locust]

Depends on what you're after

[jovial cypress]

BBC, for example

[cedar locust]

BBC?

Black Blade of Chaos? - https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsGZwTiA

[jovial cypress]

aye

I don't care I'll have to change half of my items for this

[cedar locust]

Yeah that Unique drops from the Harbinger in the Ending the Storm timeline, but only Empowered, and from Aberroth

[dusky kite]

yeah so you are in luck, it has a specific drop location that you can just farm

[jovial cypress]

ah, so it drops when you don't really care anymore

[rain oyster]

or maybe use something else in the meantime

[dusky kite]

on the flip side, you can't do much - other than COF rank 10 bonus and hitting as much corruption as you can - to increase your odds

[jovial cypress]

so I take it as EHG doesn't want people to play mirage

okay then, I'll go on with my life of stacking bleed chance

[dusky kite]

mirage had been kinda shit for years now and I'm not sure how playable it is with this unique, but it's at least something

[restive epoch]

Chilling in 500-1000corruption

Well.. "chilling"... stuff dies fast, but its not something really tanky

[jovial cypress]

rogue
tanky
we're going full on fairy tale now

[dusky kite]

not so long ago rogue was the game's tankiest class by a mile

it was a little overshadowed by rampant power creep since then though

[jovial cypress]

idk looks like paper cannon to me

I would be happy to use that set that adds trillion block

but unfortunately it's incompatible with blade dancer

[restive epoch]

You can stack high dodge, glancing blow, silver shroud with high cdr is goated during bosses... idk what else is there on its own... with Black Blade I run Titan's Heart and Ravenous Void

Then there is also the good old way of defense: killing everything before it kills you

[storm blaze]

You could also stack infinite ward on rogue very easily in the past

[dusky kite]

that was already in the future from that, this bug got introduced in what 1.0?

[surreal verge]

Tanky in the way of "We have 6 layers of damage reduction"

A layer count sentinel can dream of

[cedar locust]

What specific buff are you testing?

[jovial cypress]

I guess we indeed play different LE

[jovial cypress]

that's my motto

[dusky kite]

the one on my screenshot

[dusky kite]

this one

[cedar locust]

So Flesh Harvest modifies the effect of of all Dread Shade's buffs and does apply to the buffs granted to yourself

[dusky kite]

your insolence just got anvil stance removed again

[surreal verge]

💀

[dusky kite]

removed from removed from the game

[restive epoch]

I guess Synch+Cascade is quite glass cannon, but idk, amybe Im wrong 😄

[jovial cypress]

paper*

[dusky kite]

that's the problem, I wasn't seeing this. Are you sure that it actually does or that it's merely supposed to?

[surreal verge]

One more thing about that: does it only check the health of the targetted minion but buffs everything within it?

I forgor

[dusky kite]

it shouldn't from the wording, contrast it to some other nodes that specify "targeted minion"

[surreal verge]

Yeah I know it shouldn't by wording at least.

[dusky kite]

but since I was more interested in the use case of having it on the mob I didn't test with having it buff a minion, might try that later

just for science as that would be useless for my build idea

[jovial cypress]

is that my new favourite rogue unique? 😍

[rotund sage]

How do the seasons in this game differ from others in the genre? what kind of new things or rewards do the devs tie-in to them to get people playing out of legacy?

[dusky kite]

right now there are functionally no season-exclusive rewards and new seasons' content gets added to legacy as well as it's seen as finishing the core game experience, but in the future they plan to have it more like POE with season mechanics not coming to legacy, or only getting added there after a while

[jovial cypress]

balanced 🤔

[toxic echo]

second pic considerably better

[jovial cypress]

hehe

meet my new main hand then

[cedar locust]

Let me know what you find!

[jovial cypress]

what about

[restive epoch]

Leave some bleed chance for the rest of us :c

[jovial cypress]

NAY >:(

[dusky kite]

not gonna bother Mike explicitly said that it works off the target minion's health :{

[toxic echo]

so, first pic you had 121% and 572 - 1.21 * 572. roughly 700

second 2.46 * 493, 1212

third 3.26 * 377 1230

these are rough average of the dot dmg you are applying per hit. finding the balance of applying stacks, and damage being done.

now bear in mind this doesnt incluse skill nodes, so the numbers are going to be different in practice. but, it gives you a rough idea how its impacting damage

[jovial cypress]

yeah it's impossible to account for "+stacks per 3rd attack"

to my abrupt observation it brought median stacks to almost 300 when I aim well

270-290 something

wish I had bleed duration items but guess those are unreal to find

[toxic echo]

which is a lot better than the 60 you were getting yesterday

[grand shoal]

Bleed Falconer, or whats the topic?

[jovial cypress]

bleed BD

[grand shoal]

Ah no clue about that one 🙂

[jovial cypress]

it's rather discussion about bleed chance/damage/duration in general

[restive epoch]

Btw I noticed you got Dancing Strikes on right click... idk if you know or not, but that skill kinda needs decent cooldown reduction to not be so slow 😄

[jovial cypress]

I put different things on right click and don't use any

because if say I put decoy there, it costs so much that it makes me have mana downtime

I noticed I have Gladiator's Oath, but that still will have me to reorg a lot of things to make it viable...

[grand shoal]

Different build make a difference tho. 300 Bleed stacks on a Falconer can make a sweet dmg, 300 stacks on a Hammer Pally is not much.

But as said, I stay away from the topic as I have never played a BD before

[jovial cypress]

300 bleed stacks on BD seems to do that too

[restive epoch]

Eh that sword is more for some crit DS instead blood, running katana based sword is cool if you also run the Salt the Wound gloves, so your bleed also profits from crit multi

[grand shoal]

Wouldn't the bleed axe make sense here?
Just classic with bleed chance and inc dot dmg

[jovial cypress]

what's stopping me from farming those?

[restive epoch]

Absolutely nothing 😎

[surreal verge]

Apart from it being a rare random drop, nothing.

[jovial cypress]

I'm bit bitter that I have to use wiki to know where to farm but ok

[restive epoch]

Yea a bit... still better than coping for Ravenous Void drop...

[jovial cypress]

seems both that and chalice are already below my level so it should be a breeze

[surreal verge]

If it helps, most items ARE random drops-

[jovial cypress]

I would call it meta slavery if they didn't seem bis items for my exact build, so I guess it's just bis hunting 😀

[grand shoal]

Chalice is a great choice for bleed builds, the sustain is awesome!

[jovial cypress]

because honestly, it seems that they're almost only items with bleed duration in the game

and bleed duration is almost non existent on nodes

[restive epoch]

If you are CoF, you can just take prophecies for X uniques is great... running a certain monoliths for XYZ item rewards is a bit crap in my opinion 😄

[jovial cypress]

I'm cof

because trading on legacy??? eh

[restive epoch]

Idk, I guess trading on Legacy would be alright... if you werent a new player

[grand shoal]

"A bit crap"

Nicely put

[jovial cypress]

I'm having bit weird idea of taking enough falconer comfort passives to get net throw

which I may wanna use as right click

[toxic echo]

lots of builds use skills from all the classes

pretty much everything uses nodes from all the trees at some point

[jovial cypress]

falconer surprisingly has some interesting passives like mana regen

as if falconer is best mastery for rogue...

🤔

[grand shoal]

It is perhaps the strongest mastery in the game ^^

[jovial cypress]

I hope the game won't disappoint me, because I've risky plan for s2: play lich/necro, mage (idk which), and maybe falconer

[grand shoal]

Any Falconer works from what I see and hear 🙂

[jovial cypress]

I choose strongly from aesthetic perspective

[restive epoch]

Self throwing Net traps that proc Puncture should apply bleed, right? 🤔

[jovial cypress]

if net nodes are good, I may spec it instead of smoke

actually never tried to look that up

[grand shoal]

Net is a nice support skill for bleed falconer

[jovial cypress]

if it can do something else except slow, maybe my BD will benefit too

because decoy is eh

[restive epoch]

I like how rogue talk took over this channel 😎

[grand shoal]

Yeah, just realize. Thought we're in #💬┃general 🙂

[toxic echo]

at least its actually LE related

[jovial cypress]

wait until I decide to brush up my sentinel by giving him that shield and asking "why only 4k ward, I thought I can bring it to 10k, please help"

[grand shoal]

I guess you could get your help 😄

[jovial cypress]

what with?