❔┃ask-the-community

[twin oak]

yep

[thorn pebble]

🥹 Why don't you tell her about the secret Aura of Decay Cold minion 3k arena waves EasyClap tech? Tryint to keep the good good stuff all to yourself???

[frigid wraith]

what acolyte builds are doing well rn?

[candid elm]

Torment Warlock. There's a number of Necro minion builds as well. I think it's probably just Lich that isn't doing as well

But you can still make Lich builds that work. I just found it hard to go back to my Lich after playing Torment Warlock or Necromancer.

[faint cape]

Cold minions have some strong support in uniques and set items. Your options are just limited since there aren't many cold minions to choose from, but cold archmage is great.

[inland patio]

is there a massive xp spike around skill level 18 ? Im making barely any %progress while grinding monoliths

Also, is there any way to check the skill xp progress like the normal xp bar?

[thorn pebble]

Kind of, compared to the pace you're used to. The next lvl is even slower, but eventually you'll reach a point in empowered monoliths where it's trivial to respec a skill entirely, then level it from 10 to 20 in less than a map

[inland patio]

this is where I have no idea how to check current xp, how much is remaining etc

[toxic echo]

Thats all you get for xp bars/numbers in game.

Yeah it slows down a lil bit, but its also player level capped so generally you arent really behind unless you respec alot

Max skill lvl is like 75 or 77...something like that

[inland patio]

cheers

[naive pike]

Did they change the Lagon quest? Me and my friend didn't have to do the two side areas.

[toxic echo]

yeah. it was bugged a lot so they just took it out for now

[fringe schooner]

Do I get any additional XP buff while playing in a party? If we are both doing 100c monos for example?

[toxic echo]

nope

only thing that changes is the mobs hp

[royal loom]

Does anyone have tips for running a fire warpath build?

I’m trying to switch from ignite to crit and I can’t tell if I’m actually doing more damage

[toxic echo]

think eye of reen is the big thing

[thorn pebble]

How do you guys deal with the malding that results from your desired t7 affix dropping on every single item base other than the one you want? Is there any hypnosis I can attempt that'll convince both me and the game that I in fact do not want melee minion damage on two-handed axes, so that they may start dropping?

[naive pike]

Is it normal for minions to accidentally get excluded from boss arenas?

[toxic echo]

sometimes. lagon is particularly bad

[thorn pebble]

yup happened to me too a handful of times

[rich wigeon]

On Bladedancer, should you build any defensive stats?
Evasion? Glancing Blow? Armor? Health? Endurance?

[uncut scarab]

if a skill has both fire and lightning tags. will % increase/+ lightning damage only increase the lightning portion of the damage? or will affect the whole skill

[surreal verge]

Only affects the lightning part of the damage.

[surreal verge]

Yes, because you don't want to get deleted.
You'll build a mix of all of that.

[uncut scarab]

thats totally what i expected but a person can dream of double dipping lol. so the uniques that give increased fire/cold/electric damage. you're not really double dipping at all. I guess its good levelling gear thats flexible for multiple builds?

[surreal verge]

Or some weird elemental build. EG. elemental nova

[candid elm]

The flat +lighting is added based on the damage effectiveness. The % increased lighting would just increase the lightning damage. Example, if you also had flat +fire damage then then % increased lighting wouldn't increase that flat +fire damage.

Note that an item with +Spell damage is adaptive, it'll just be whatever the skill damage type is.

[surreal verge]

Oh he also asked about + flat increases... That's going to get complicated.

• X Damage is always applied to it's skill type no matter what damage type the skill is.
  Eg: + 10 fire spell damage is added to ALL spells, no matter if the spell is fire or not, and it'll let the spell deal 10 fire damage (Without increases)

[uncut scarab]

oh really?

[candid elm]

Yeah, but flat +10 fire if you've got a bunch of % increased lighting isn't going to give you much extra damage

[uncut scarab]

i thought it was like, skills have a base damage, and it will increase that base amount before the "increased" multiplier if the tag/damage type is right lol

so for example, if im going smite sentinel. i could randomly choose to go +cold melee damage and increased % cold damage on my gear. and it'll scale the smite damage. even though smite itself isnt cold?

[candid elm]

It's why you usually see builds focus mostly on one damage type. But there are some that use more than one, like elemental nova Kzb mentioned

[uncut scarab]

yeah that makes sense. i was mainly just curious why those increased fire/cold/lightning gear exists since my previous understanding was that it would be wasted

[candid elm]

Yes, but you'd just have that flat +cold being increased by the % increased cold. And you wouldn't get the benefit from any lightning shred or penetration (if you were focusing on lighting)

[uncut scarab]

goootcha. good to know

playing minion necro so all this was dumbed down for me lol "increased minion damage" go brrr

[candid elm]

Yeah depends on the minion you're using. If it's mostly physical you could get stuff like armor shred, for example

[uncut scarab]

i thought armour was reducing damage regardless of type? so shred is good no matter the damage type

[candid elm]

Yeah just more for Physical and not DoTs, as those bypass Armor

[uncut scarab]

how big is the base damage of skills? can i check somewhere? want to get a rough idea how much a flat "+20 spell damage" is relative to the base

[uncut scarab]

ah didnt know that

i think implicits on one handed weapons are in the +70 range iirc?

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/

[candid elm]

You can look here https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/
Smite is base 30 fire
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/smite

[uncut scarab]

ahhh. okay so +20 fire damage is like 66% damage increase

wild

[candid elm]

And see how it says "Added Damage Effectiveness: 150%". So +20 would give +30

[uncut scarab]

OH

daaang

stacking multipliers go brr

[surreal verge]

There's a reason flat increases aren't THAT common-

Well, at least for spells.

[candid elm]

Yeah check this for details on the Added Damage Effectiveness https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/damage_effectiveness

And this for how the flat added, increased, and, more is calculated
https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/increased_added_and_more

[uncut scarab]

totally different topic all of a sudden sorry. for penetration now. Do i do the math assuming enemies have resistance = lvl up to 75? or do they have 0

[surreal verge]

They have 0 by default.

[candid elm]

They have zero res and armor

Unless they have a modifier that says otherwise

[surreal verge]

You can -res enemies the same way you can -res yourself with enough poison stacks

[candid elm]

Yeah push them into the negatives for extra damage

[candid elm]

Example, if the enemy is magic or rare with Of the Gales then they have bonus Cold Damage and +Cold Res. So that enemy would have Cold Res, but without modifiers they'd have zero res.

[hot vessel]

why does the game reset my graphic settings on launch?

[zealous turret]

So last night I did the first "timeline quest" and the game crashed as soon as I finished it. Tonight I did the second one and the game crashed as soon as I finished it. Is this something that's going to happen every time I finish a timeline quest?

"quest timeline echo" to be specific. The one I finished last night gave me credit for finishing, this second one didn't even though they both crashed exactly when the rewards popped up. So I guess I try again ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense knot]

Are there plans to get endgame completion in multiplayer for corruption? Any plans to scale multiplayer to balance?

[surreal verge]

What does "endgame completion for corruption" mean?

@alpine pendant
An indicator does exist, tho not easily seen:

One's a half line and one's a full line.

[alpine pendant]

oh I see it now, but this would still require you to path all the way there to see it. no way to see it until you get to that point. And then have to respec and plan the route again

[surreal verge]

It is what it is, it at least shows up in LETools' plannner.

[desert tree]

Sorry but I am not sure I understand

Oh I got it

Definitely a bug

If you have the requirement the path should open

[azure siren]

did they juice up LP drop rates? i just got into empowered and been getting some 2lp and 3lps evens

[desert tree]

Nope

[cedar locust]

Hi there! If this continues the first thing to try is verifying your game files through Steam. It would also help if you could submit In Game Bug Reports after each crash - the bug reporting tool attaches the player.log files from the current and previous game sessions so we can investigate crashes like this 😊

[grand shoal]

Once you enter empowered, and therefore level 100 content, the LP chance will raise only very slightly by pushing corruption.
Basically you should be able to find any unique with a maximum (realistic) LP already iirc

[azure siren]

hi so i am following guide on maxroll - they have skills up to 30 points in it but obviously i just started and am not that geared. Do I just follow the progression or ignore the progression?

assuming maxroll guides are well written

[toxic echo]

if you are following a guide....yes follow the guide

[cedar locust]

You can use the Passive Tree Progression slider to see where to put points and when, you can also use the levelling guides to help too

For Gear - Maxroll does have several options on each build so you can progress more smoothly

[naive pike]

What is needed to reliably freeze bosses, like, at least some of the time?

[toxic echo]

stupid amounts of freeze%, and frostbite. but its all HP based (the formula is in the gameguide) so different bosses will freeze more/less often

[naive pike]

Frostbite?

[toxic echo]

frostbite helps freeze chance

yea

[naive pike]

Oh it's a separate multiplier for freeze chance.

Is it achievable?

So I haven't been approaching this quite right.

Like idk about achievable but clearly I do need to change my approach a little bit.

So the freeze rate per stack of chill for example is base freeze rate.

[toxic echo]

every cold skill has its own base freeze rate

[naive pike]

And frostbite is multiplicative.

Oh yeah I know about base freeze rates.

[desert tree]

No it's Freeze Rate Multiplier, right?

[toxic echo]

i think so? im not a super big expert of freeze

[naive pike]

It's added

[surreal verge]

Enough commitment that you’ll be doing jack all for damage

[naive pike]

You think it might not even be worth experimenting with?

[surreal verge]

T4 julra has a estimated hp pool of 475k in solo

She would effectivley have 725k~ hp against freeze

[naive pike]

I kinda was afraid of that.

[surreal verge]

This also goes for stun, as bosses also have 50% more health for the purposes of stun calculation. One of the core reasons freeze and stun builds don’t really exist

Stun has it a bit better since it’s based on damage done, but at that point just do more damage lmao

[naive pike]

Sounds like I'm ready for a full respec soon. Like the style has been kind of fun but I'm noticing less and less frozen enemies and especially bosses.

I liked this idea of killing frozen targets at a certain health threshold, even though that node seemed a bit unclear of what exactly that certain health threshold is.

I looked it up. I guess I understand now why it worked during campaign but stopped working after a while.

I guess for a mercy my damage is still good so I haven't felt the consequences of it not working.

There goes my idea to freeze enemies with flame ward retaliation too.

Or with Surge.

Now I wonder if I should be using Surge at all or just go for teleport or flame rush.... But that last one would require points in runemaster.

I'll contemplate the rest in the other channel.

[desert tree]

It's an Added %age

It's not Flat
But you get an extra 15% per stack of Chill (max 3) for your calculation for example

[naive pike]

Oh I see, so it's base chance * freeze multi * freeze per chill * frostbite multi.

[desert tree]

We would have to ask Mike to be sure but I believe FRM and FR per Chill are added together

[naive pike]

That's not what the thingy says tho.

[silk field]

How high of corruption must you be to hit the rare boss table? Farmed a boss 15 times without any luck really annoys me. Currently 150 Corruption

[toxic echo]

its rng. there is no unlock for it. higher is a better chance...but its still rng no matter where you are

[naive pike]

How do I weigh crystal sword vs katana vs dawn blade? I want to make an informed decision about this.

I already have +160% crit multi built in from my nodes.

[silk field]

🙃 Thank you

[meager drum]

Anybody else has incrediable frame drops in this room? (the room where you meet keeper balthas for the first time) It's starts to lag when the roof collapses.

[twin oak]

Yes

[meager drum]

is there somethign we can do against it?

I have tried lowering all settings

but it just does not matter

[twin oak]

Nothing in particular
Actually the best thing to do is leave because you don't need to finish that fight in order to continue the quest

[naive pike]

What happens if you get Frenzy from multiple sources? Do you effectively just keep the longest lasting one?

[twin oak]

yes

[fossil marten]

this might be a stupid question, but what does "necrotic" damage or resist mean.....is it like chaos damage?

[twin oak]

I just tested this with malestrom and warcry,
if you have the 1s frenzy from maelstrom (which is refreshing constantly) then when you get the for example 2.5s frenzy from warcry,
the frenzy buff lasts until it is again refreshed by the 1s frenzy from warcry when it has 1s or less duration remaining

[alpine pendant]

necrotic is just one type of damage no different from fire, void, physical etc.

[twin oak]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/resistances

[fossil marten]

👍

[grand shoal]

It is just a damage type like fire, frost and so on. Not comparable with the special attributes that chaos dmg in PoE has (piercing shields or such)

[twin oak]

keep in mind there is no chaos like in PoE, no type of damage ignores energy shield (ward in last epoch)

[fossil marten]

oh so ward is like ES aka energy shield...right?

[twin oak]

there are differences, but it is the closest thing

[fossil marten]

oh ok....thanks

[twin oak]

ES increases over time and ward decreases over time
ward regen (if you have it) is constant and is not decreased like ES by taking damage
the character sheet still has the old (before 1.0) ward retention formula, it is correct in the game guide though

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ward

[red yew]

anyone knows if chtonic fissure's node Return Below has been fixed? it wouldn't consume the shade a lot of the times

[zealous turret]

It's unlikely that verifying my game files would fix it. These two crashes happened on two separate installations (first on Steam Deck, then on PC), so it's likely some combination of something about my character plus finishing a quest timeline as I hadn't had a single crash in the ~20 hours before getting to that point in the game--and then it happened twice. I was able to complete 3 more timelines and it didn't crash though ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (it's also too late to report if it only reports the curent plus previous session as I've launched the game more times than that now)

[cyan jacinth]

As a new player, any recommendations with using the loot filter buy just learning the basic and go from there, or use import one and learn from what they use?

[grand shoal]

Learning to make one is imo very easy and the earlier you start the better.
Start with some simple rules to hide what you already know that you don't want to see and expand from there over time.

I personally like VERY strict filters for example, but think that is a thing for more experienced players.

[brittle bear]

I prefer very strict ones, too. Usually I make one filter rule for every slot with the general affixes I want on this item. Then I duplicate the rule and make it more strict. Rinse and repeat until I have ~ 4 rules per slot. Then over time as my gear get's better, I simply deactivate the less strict ones

[grand shoal]

I approach very similar, with 1-3 or sometimes 4 rules per slot. Also depends on how much builds are in my filter. I like to have one lootfilter for all chars.

But to have rules per slot is a good idea imo, once you are advanced in understanding what you want and what not

[brittle bear]

Usually I play one, maybe two chars and put like the very strict filter rules of char X into the filter for char Y and vice versa. Don't wanna miss the really fancy stuff 😄

[hallow pond]

@trail cape heiho. it seems i finally found a reason... after i did not get a refund i tried on and googled on an ond 😄

@trail capeand it seems the reason was, that AUTO HDR was enabled in Windows. I disabled that and so far it seems to run smoothly

[trail cape]

Auto HDR? Where did you find that setting?

[hallow pond]

in the windows system settings

it upgrades normal games to HDR.

[median zenith]

🤔 I've personally always used regular HDR w/ Auto HDR disabled, just because I didn't like how Auto HDR looked when I first got my monitor and tested out the different settings on various games. That's interesting to note that it can have performance implications, but makes sense, since the OS is needing to do extra computations post-render. I'm not finding much related to the performance of Auto HDR online, but def gonna research this more. Screenshot is my HDR settings, for reference.

I'm glad you found a solution for your setup to improve performance. Thank you for sharing!

[storm wren]

:(

[hallow pond]

it seems that LE cannot support HDR

thus autoHDR disturbs it somehow

similar problem with titan quest btw

but with tq it did not crash that often

better stick to "natural" HDR from now on

[storm wren]

🤷‍♀️ I can't see their graphics under HDR even they support HDR

[hallow pond]

maybe it is not implemented yet

[storm wren]

I mean my laptop's screenshot don't support hdr

[hallow pond]

ah i see

[rich wigeon]

Is this filter builder "good" for making a loot filter? Or should you make it manually?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/

[timid pike]

Hi everyone.
I just started playing. I'm playing mage.
Which is the best build for a beginner please to level ?

[desert tree]

I use this as a base and then remove extra rules or modify some

[surreal verge]

Whatever you enjoy.

[candid elm]

Once you reach the End of Time area, maybe around level 20ish for your first character, You will select a Mastery and the Mastery cannot be changed. You can choose between Sorcerer, Spellblade, and Runemaster.

Here are some leveling guides for those Masteries https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides?filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][taxonomy]=taxonomies.build_guide_type&filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][value]=archive&filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][operation]=!%3D&filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][taxonomy]=taxonomies.build_guide_type&filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][value]= &filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][operation]=NOT EXISTS&filter[classes][taxonomy]=taxonomies.classes&filter[classes][value]=mage&filter[misc][taxonomy]=taxonomies.misc&filter[misc][value]=leveling

[timid pike]

Thank you very much

[candid elm]

Of those three masteries, Sorcerer or Spellblade would be a little easier for a new player. I like Runemaster but it is more a bit complicated.

If you ever played DotA, think Invoker and that's kind of like Runemaster.

[timid pike]

Do you ever fight with the swords as a Spellblade?

[candid elm]

Spellblade uses some abilities that are closer range and there are some special sword types later that give +Spell damage that Spellblade can use.

But you're not really smacking them in the head with the sword.

[timid pike]

😄 thank you

[desert tree]

Shatter Strike do bonk mobs with cold sword

Its a real Melee Melee Dmg build

[candid elm]

Maybe Fearlizz would be interested in that. Sounds like they want to do some bonking.

[tranquil obsidian]

sooo i'm overflowing with exalt and i need to clear out stuff... can i assume that for SINGLE T6 weapons
-leech,
-incr crit dmg,
-increase % damage,
-every ailment except ignite
are shard/floor material?

[uncut scarab]

do we know if season 2 content will be available in legacy right away? or will it be exclusive to the cycle

[surreal verge]

No cycle exclusives

[uncut scarab]

awesome. do we know what happens to faction rank when a character gets shifted from cycle to legacy?

[stark ravine]

Gotta merge it in, but it isn't lost or anything - #1260279433772662854 message

[timid pike]

@candid elm , gear that i pick up now. Can i just sold it?

[candid elm]

Yes but it sells for very little gold. And if you leave an area to go sell stuff, the area resets. So you're best off just picking up things you might want to use. Later in the game you'll have tons of gold, so you don't really need to pick up things to sell.

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1230890628594794526

[stark charm]

leveling alt right now, do I really have to do normal monoliths to unlock empowered?

[surreal verge]

Yes, there's no escaping normal monoliths. Glyph of envys would help speed it up (Gives you instant quest boss echo's amount of stability)

[stark charm]

yea, the worst thing are those quest echos I need to do before boss

ah okey the glyph on envy was great tip! thanks

[storm wren]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

No idea why but I just think this photo looks too funny

[edgy sphinx]

You googled "Pictures of happy nerds", didn't you? 😏

[novel sundial]

Hello, i played something like month after harbinger relase and now, after break i see my champ in legacy. when current cycle started?

[toxic echo]

july 9th, and then a reset in sept 19th. next cycle is april

[novel sundial]

ok, thanks

[azure siren]

does harbinger difficulty get affected by corruption?

[toxic echo]

yes

[dense knot]

What are some thoughts on party members gaining corruption from killing shade of orobyss? Currently the system feels bad because only the host receives completion and creates differences on co-op progression. Could the corruption be spendable to reroll map mods, monolith rewards, reroll mods on blessings, other things? This would help create a system that could lower corruption and not let players constantly be carried.

[naive pike]

The only thing that party members don't get is progress on the echo map, which includes corruption.

You can still just get the loot and the quest completions and the boons, etc.

By the way, now that I think about it, stacking less modifiers has diminishing returns, unlike stacking more modifiers, right?

[exotic perch]

hey i am wondering something:
when i get a reward from completing a prophecy and also when i put a unique in a nemesis and empower it does the area level/corruption/rarity mod affect the outcomes of these at all? is it a mistake to complete a rare mob prophecy in a low level temp sanctum or to empower/fight a nemesis in a low level temp sanctum?

[surreal verge]

Why would you want to make the endless difficulty number be spendable?

[faint cape]

No, just like 'more' modifiers, each one gives exactly what it says

[surreal verge]

They're all multiplitive, so they're effectively the same efficency.

[mortal siren]

Just started the end game. How do you find the timeline bosses?

[surreal verge]

The quest echoes are on the top left, the 3 "quests". Click on them to trigger them, once you have the stability.

[mortal siren]

I have enough stability but they are still locked

[faint cape]

Nothing affects empower results.
Prophecies are affected by corruption for LP chance - the boost is really minor, so no sweat if you pop some outside of the monolith.

[surreal verge]

If you're in normal monoliths, you have to do them in order. You should have one unlocked. If you need more help, send a screenshot.

[exotic perch]

alright thats great thank you

[rich wigeon]

@desert tree + anyone else

What is the general thought process when selecting 5 skills for your build?

I imagine:

• The main dps button
• Mobility skill
• smth
• smth
• smth

Or maybe there are a few variations

[uncut scarab]

last realized, i can farm timeline bosses by killing them and suiciding to the harbringer? or is there a reason that wont work

[surreal verge]

Last I checked the boss wont give you another set of drops, but I'm not too sure.

[uncut scarab]

doing it now. seems like i wont get boss drops but i still get prophecy completions

[brittle bear]

I always look for possible synergies between the skills. And how I want do deal damage. Like hit dmg, dot dmg, melee, range, spell, minion

currently I'm just using a non skilled movement skill and it works fine, too

[surreal verge]

Ah, then it's still the same then

[rich wigeon]

Skill synergies as in “When you cast A, your B will auto cast”?

[trail wave]

Now with evade being in the game you could get away with not having a mobility skill.Though I find it strictly necessary for my enjoyment. I want to zoomzoom

[trail wave]

I'd add buff and sustain skills to this list. They aren't strictly necessary either (that's only the main dps skill) but they are nice to get when you have a slot left

[surreal verge]

You'll most likely still need one since evade has zero i-frames, and is not much faster for movement.

[brittle bear]

yes!
My build as an example:
Storm totem uses the skill tree of my gathering storm skill.
Gatherin storm creates storm stacks. My totem's hit can give me storm stacks aswell, because I've skilled that.
My thorn totems are auto cast via Idol and get consumed to buff my storm totem, which then deals more damage.
My maelstrom casts storm bolts, which use the skill tree of gathering storm, too.
Maelstrom is self cast via passives and skill tree.

[storm wren]

Uncle Google lol

[trail wave]

My 80% movement speed rogue gets by without one

[surreal verge]

Wait, you're playing rogue and not using shift for easy dodge cap?

[trail wave]

it's a special rogue

once you are that fast movement is its own layer of defense

[surreal verge]

That sounds special alright.

[faint cape]

"SG1" is Stargate, it's a TV show reference

[storm wren]

but I'm satisfied my icon emmmm

The only pity is forum don't support uploading the own profile

[storm wren]

Make sense. I can't watch these tv shows

[azure siren]

guys i have been just missing some crafts and kinda feel bad about the whatifs. do i just take this as a growth and learning opportunity and move on and keep grinding?

[slate stag]

yeah, that's kinda the summary of endgame in my opinion

[timid pike]

Is the chest in camp shared with other classes?

[slate stag]

you mean storage? as long as you're in the same cycle and not character found, then yes

[rich wigeon]

Ty for the answers!
I’ll ask in the classes channels whenever I try to make a build then

[timid pike]

what must i do here please

[desert tree]

Need to choose one of the 3 option

[azure siren]

how do i target farming a specific prefix shard? get the blessign and go spam echos?

[desert tree]

You can also highlight items with it in your filter so you can shatter them

[timid pike]

im only lvl 10. which one must i choose ?

[desert tree]

There should be a text somewhere explaining what they do

[languid chasm]

hey could someone give me the wp to the cof?

[loud sedge]

Question since I'm getting back into aRPGs, specifically LEpoch.

Lightning Blast does Lightning damage, obviously, but I can specialise it so it does Cold damage instead.
My actual question is: would Lightning Blast now benefit from both Lightning scaling and Cold scaling since it initially does Lightning damage and is converting all that element to cold or am I just being dumb?

I'm assuming it loses the Lightning tag and adds Cold instead and only benefits from Cold though. XD

[desert tree]

Only Cold once converted

Unless you have Flat Lightning Spell Dmg

[surreal verge]

Ony cold

No conversion shinanigans here in Le

[mystic karma]

So is it a bug that my explosive trap is still showing fire and lightning? Coldsnap says it should take priority over lightning, but it is showing all three... 🤷‍♂️

[loud sedge]

Next question: I can freely gift items to my friend who is playing with me, without resonances, but I can't gift specific items unless I have a resonance.. I'm confused on what needs a resonance, versus what doesn't.

[mystic karma]

Also lategame builds: is it better to stack +HP or %HP?

[surreal verge]

What dropped while in the same party and same instance.

[surreal verge]

You need both since both scale off each other

[loud sedge]

That's why I'm confused. I had a spear called "Orion's Spear" - or whatever - and it stated I needed a resonance despite him having helped kill the mob. XD

[mystic karma]

Ooooooh, right

[alpine sundial]

any point playing now or wait for saeson 2?

oh its in april

[naive pike]

100 * 0.9 * 0.9 = 81, or is this not the math used?

That's for 2x a 10% less modifier.

If it were reduced the modifiers would get added together and it'd be 100 * 0.8 = 80.

Unless this is not the math used.

[surreal verge]

This goes for damage reduction as well. That's also how two red rings are calculated. (2x 10% reduced damage taken)

It works both ways.

[naive pike]

So that's diminishing returns isn't it?

[surreal verge]

Yup. But that already happens with the normal damage reduction layers (Armour and resistances, for example)

So it both helps you and harms you, if you think of it that way

[naive pike]

Yes, I was just making sure that this is, in fact, how the math works.

[surreal verge]

Ah, then yes it is how it works.

[naive pike]

Next question, I don't think I will be hitting armor cap (or anywhere near it) on my spellblade. Is this a problem or is it just one of several defensive layers and you can pick a fair few of them?

[surreal verge]

Most builds won't hit the armour softcap (it's stupid high, 85%), so it's a matter of having a decent amount of it.

[naive pike]

Like I've been doing just fine relying on ward and damage reduction passives.

But idk how long that will last.

My armor reduction right now is like 22% or something.

[surreal verge]

That sounds like a caster's armour DR, yeah.

[naive pike]

Will getting more armor from passives do anything? Like maybe it's actually more effective when your starting value is already low?

[surreal verge]

% armour would multiply off base/flat armour, just like health and daamge. So it would depend on how much you already have

[naive pike]

It seems most nodes on mage give flat.

The formula is very complicated, does it require progressively more total armor to raise the total reduction?

[brittle bear]

Armour should be affected by diminishing returns, which means that above a certain value, each point more armour gives less and less dmg reduction

You could compare that to cars. A 50hp car can drive 100 km/h. But a 100hps doesn't necessarily can drive 200km/h and a 150 hp car surly won't reach 300 km/h. The faster you want to go, the more power you need to get one more km/h

[surreal verge]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor
Diminishing returns.

[naive pike]

Conversely, that means that if I'm low and I can get a few hundred points of armor from somewhere, I'll get entire percentage points worth of extra mit?

[surreal verge]

Yup

So getting like 20+% dr from armour isn't too hard.

[faint cape]

Yeah, that is the math used. And no, it's not diminishing returns, it just means you don't get growing returns like you would if everything was "reduced damage taken"

The second 10% less modifier gives you another 10% less damage taken

Compared to reduced damage taken, where the second 10% reduced would actually give you overall 12.5% less damage taken

[charred barn]

can rune of ascendancy roll legendary potential?

also it doesnt care about the specific base right? just the item type

[novel sundial]

Im comeback after some timer (played something like a month after harbringer update) and now i dont have champ in cycle. What do u advise at that moment: start new champ right now in mid cycle or play on legacy? I played on merchant guild

[faint cape]

Yes to both of these. It does have a reduced chance to roll LP though.

[faint cape]

If you don't want to start over, you can continue on your legacy character. That might be good if you want to experience more of the endgame. Otherwise, making a new character is always fun and there's not another reset until april.

[novel sundial]

Im worried about howerchant guild is balanced on legacy right now. Btw there is more active players on cycle or legacy?

[fringe birch]

lp chances with & without roa: https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/lp-chance

[desert tree]

👀

Is that new ?

Also WW Chance ???

[fringe birch]

yeah relatively new, I added lp/ww chances about month ago

[sonic saddle]

ayyyy tunk

[sonic saddle]

linear reductions like with multiple reduced modifiers end up being absurdly powerful when applied to damage reduction

because they give increasing returns for every point

1% additive dr is a 1% overall improvement in damage reduction if you don't have any other sources, but a 50% overall improvement if you already have 98%

so from a design perspective they're best avoided

as far as i know there's only one way to have more than one source of additive damage resistance, that being combining aspect of the boar with reduced damage taken on block

[naive pike]

Haha, those were in fact the only two instances of reduced damage taken that I could think of.

And I guess, I treat it as "diminishing returns" because the flat amount of damage you're avoiding goes down with each separate 10% less modifier. Like, I don't think you can get enough simultaneous ones for it to have a negligible effect, but I do think it's something for me worth considering none the less.

[sonic saddle]

defining the type of "returns" only ever looks at the difference in end results

[naive pike]

It does mean however, that increasing a particular vector of mitigation you already have is very useful.

I mean the first one reduces by 10, the second one reduces by 9

Isn't that diminishing?

[sonic saddle]

but it doesn't

the first one reduces what you take by 10%

post that 10% is now the new value to go off

for any type of effect

so the second one then also is a 10% reduction

[naive pike]

If you start with 100, and you have two 10% less modifiers, the first one reduces it by 10, the second one reduces it by 9.

[sonic saddle]

so it's not diminishing

the first one reduces it from 100 to 90

the second one reduces it from 90 to 81

[naive pike]

Yeah so the second one reduces it by 1 less.

[sonic saddle]

the % reduction is what matters here

[naive pike]

I mean... Could you at least say that you understand what I mean even if you can't agree about the verbage?

[sonic saddle]

sure, but that's how multiplicative scaling works

[naive pike]

I mean, the tangible effect goes down.

[sonic saddle]

always the same % change

yes, but that's how multiplicative works, it scales based on the value it's acting on

[naive pike]

Whereas with more modifiers, the tangible effect goes up.

[sonic saddle]

yes, they scale based on the value they're acting on

[naive pike]

Well, that is, in essence, what I am talking about.

[sonic saddle]

two 10% mores go from 100 to 110, then from 110 to 121

okay, but every single arpg resource you'll read will call that multiplicative DR

not diminishing

[naive pike]

Like whether you call it a rose or a poompadyngle, the thing I'm trying to talk about doesn't really change.

[sonic saddle]

sure, but you're deciding to call it something everyone else agrees is something different

[naive pike]

Well, my apologies for being stupid then. Again.

[sonic saddle]

LE armor is a good example of diminishing returns

[naive pike]

Yes, yes, the poompadyngle.

[sonic saddle]

the first 250 will give you 10% damage reduction against physical hits

[naive pike]

I understand the poompadyngle.

[sonic saddle]

sorry, i'm not putting things in the best way, been very sleepless lately and not in the right headspace

[naive pike]

It's ok, I didn't mean to imply you didn't mean well.

Wouldn't be the first time I use Word A when other people say that Word A doesn't apply and we end up talking for hours about the meaning of Word A, instead of the subject I wanted to discuss.

Which... I guess has been discussed anyway.

[sonic saddle]

yeah stacking multiple less damage taken sources is very good

[naive pike]

Although the effectiveness dwindles a bit.

[surreal verge]

It's why we keep saying "Resistance isn't enough"

[sonic saddle]

sigh, no it doesn't.

lets put it this way

[faint cape]

AND loot lizards with drop pools, very epic!

[sonic saddle]

adding 10% less damage taken means i can survive ~11% more damage

[naive pike]

Man I've had my first experience with loot lizards this past week. It kinda feels like a different game now.

Like so much stuff I wouldn't expect to be getting until monolith.

[naive pike]

I mean sure if you want to apply the same modifier to different experiments.

[sonic saddle]

i'm just pointing out that that's always true, it doesn't matter how much of other damage reduction and survivability stuff you have, an extra 10% less damage taken means surviving ~11% more damage

so it doesn't dwindle in effectiveness

[faint cape]

No, you're just comparing it to reduced damage taken, where each one added on gets way more effective. Less damage taken is always exactly as it says.

[naive pike]

I mean that's if you change the circumstances of each specific test.

[faint cape]

Like, if you put on 10% less damage taken, it'll always be 10% less damage no matter what other effects you have

[naive pike]

I mean if something else already reduces it by 10% it only gets further reduced by 9% of the original amount.

[faint cape]

If you hypothetically put on 10% reduced damage taken after you already have 10% reduced damage taken, that second 10% reduced damage taken actually makes you take 11% less damage

[naive pike]

What part of the math am I missing for this to become true?

[faint cape]

but 10% of the amount you would have taken

because going from taking 90% damage to taking 81% damage is taking 10% less damage

[naive pike]

If the original amount was 100, and something else reduces it by 10%, then it would be reduced by 9, not 11.

[faint cape]

Going from taking 90% damage to taking 80% damage is 11.11111% less damage

[naive pike]

In an additive situation you mean.

[faint cape]

yes

[sonic saddle]

"reduced" is the additive verbage, "less" is the multiplicative

[naive pike]

I'm not sure what it is I am misunderstanding then.

[faint cape]

To bring things to an extreme scenario, we can look at stacking two 50% modifiers:
First 50% reduced makes you take half damage, second 50% reduced makes you take no damage (100% less dmage).
First 50% less makes you take half damage, second 50% less makes you take half damage again (total 0.25x damage multiplier)

[naive pike]

Like, if I have 5x 10% less, the amount of damage I would avoid is about 40.95%, which is a fair bit away from the 50% one would expect if one did the math incorrectly, no?

[faint cape]

The less modifier gives exactly what it says each time, but the reduced one goes insaneo mode

(which is why they don't let you stack reduced damage taken)

[twin oak]

yes

try playing with the ehp calculator if you haven't already

[sonic saddle]

yes, because each one gives you the exact amount of overall damage mitigation as it says on the tin.

each one, as it is applied, simply reduces the damage you would take before it by 10%

it doesn't matter what else is happening before or after it

[naive pike]

Apparently you still need to stack it a whole ton of times (which you can not do) before the amount reduced becomes truly negligible though. Like, a couple dozen times.

[faint cape]

It never becomes negligible

[sonic saddle]

correction: it's only "negligible" if the damage you would take before it applies is already small

i'm up at 1.2k corruption

[naive pike]

Going from 43 times to 44 times is about a 1% reduction of the original amount.

[faint cape]

Like if you already have 99% damage reduction, gaining just 0.5% to go to 99.5% damage reduction is doubling your EHP

[sonic saddle]

adding extra 10% less damage taken sources would be super good even though i already have a fair number

[naive pike]

So what you're saying is my error isn't so much a matter of math, but of perspective?

[sonic saddle]

yes

basically, if you're applying a less damage taken value

you ignore literally everything else

because you can

[shrewd sentinel]

you keep thinking of the original value when you should reset your perspective at each step

[sonic saddle]

^

[surreal verge]

THIS.

You're thinking of the base when you should thinking of the number right before it got multiplied

Eg: 100 base damage with 2 10% more damage dealt.
First one turns 100 into 110.
Second one turns 110 into 121.
Both are 10% more than the number before,.

121 is 10% more than 110.

[naive pike]

Yeah, the way I've been looking at it, is I see that the number it goes up by goes up.

[faint cape]

Yeah, for defenses it's usually better to think in terms of EHP, where less damage taken modifiers end up looking exactly like more modifiers

[naive pike]

Because it's the EHP that goes up by 10% each time?

[sonic saddle]

~11%, but yeah

[faint cape]

10% less damage taken is effectively an 11.11% more EHP multi

(1/0.9 - 1)

[naive pike]

So basically, while stacking 'reduced' (which you can't, at least not really), does even more than 'less' does, that doesn't make stacking less multiple times less effective?

[faint cape]

Correct

[sonic saddle]

in general less damage taken is the strongest type of survivability modifier you can get in LE

[faint cape]

If you could stack enough reduced damage taken, you'd end up with inifinite EHP, which of course would break the game

[naive pike]

I understand what you're saying although at the same time I think part of my brain still needs to catch up.

[shrewd sentinel]

your EHP starts to look like an exponential curve the more modifiers you add.

[naive pike]

I mean, if you could stack it enough times, your damage reduction can go to 100% or over.

[sonic saddle]

yeah, infinite EHP

[naive pike]

I mean from my perspective I just see it like "I'm not taking damage".

[sonic saddle]

same deal

[faint cape]

I wonder if any enemies actually apply increased damage taken, like maybe Abby's doom. That would mess up boar aspect a bit lol

Too lazy to look up now though

[naive pike]

Oh.

Wait

If I follow this logic.

[sonic saddle]

aberroth's shock does yeah

[naive pike]

Does this mean that, if I stack different "more damage taken" on enemies, there is some kind of reduced results with each one? Or is this still the wrong perspective?

Or does the same apply and it's more that "increased damage taken" has inflated results?

[sonic saddle]

reverse it

[surreal verge]

This.

[tranquil obsidian]

Little question.. Are there effective and recent builds that use a channeling skill as main damage dealer?

[faint cape]

It's the same as your typical "more damage" vs. "increased damage", but in a separate multiplier step

[naive pike]

"While channeling" modifiers tend to be very good modifiers iirc.

[sonic saddle]

they are but a lot of the channeling skills are a bit awkward

[naive pike]

Like the ones that have a fixed end to the channel?

[surreal verge]

Warpath and disintergrate are the only ones in mind, most channeling skills suck because you can't move.

[naive pike]

You can move while disintegrating? I know you can move the beam.

[surreal verge]

You can't.

It just have a LOT of multipliers that it is slightly worth the tradeoff

kinda

[naive pike]

You can't change your aim?

[sonic saddle]

to be fair it isn't really -that- different to melee dps builds. The bigger reason most channeling builds suck is that they're generally DoT's with odd mechanics and not enough more damage modifiers

or access to penetration

[tranquil obsidian]

oh god why i forgot warpath.. yeah I already excluded disintegrating, too dangerous as mechanic

[naive pike]

That said, I think disintegrate is legit, and I'm fairly sure Warpath is legit.

[surreal verge]

You can, just no moving.

[naive pike]

Aren't there Rampage builds?

[surreal verge]

Warpath is the only one.

[surreal verge]

Rampage is a channeling MOVEMENT skill, not a damage skill.

[naive pike]

Aren't there builds that basically has you perma rampaging?

[surreal verge]

The other channeling skill I can think of is only ran with the node that REMOVES the channeling part

[surreal verge]

That's for movement and not for damage iirc

[naive pike]

Like you just constantly hold the rampage key and just release it for a second to change direction.

And then as you're doing that lightning bolts rain down or whatever.

[surreal verge]

Gathering storm I guess?

[naive pike]

I think so.

[shrewd sentinel]

the other side of this is all these DR effects dramatically increase the power of your sustain. if you had 100,000 life but no DR and took a hit for half your health, you need to somehow restore 50,000 life before the next swing lands. If you have 2500 life but 100,000 EHP due to DR and took a 50% hit, you only need to recover 1250 life. you can get away with much less sustain if you just build for DR instead of 'beef'. These examples are kind of extreme, but 100k EHP is certainly possible.

[cunning hatch]

When is the new season?

[naive pike]

April, for now anyway.

[cunning hatch]

Sheesh. Seems like a long time.

[naive pike]

Don't shoot the messenger.

And complaining won't make it come faster.

[mortal siren]

What is legendary potential and how do I use it? Is it a type of forging potential?

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

[mortal siren]

Thank u

[mortal siren]

Does mana regen count against the cost of a channeled skill?

[shrewd sentinel]

not against the cost, but most channeling skills allow regen during the channel. this used to not be the case, and some channeled skills still disable mana regen while active.

[surreal verge]

In theory.

So 10 mana regen with a skill of a channeling cost of 25 means you drain 15 mana per second instead.

[mortal siren]

Ok does it allow for disintegrate?

[shrewd sentinel]

yes disintegrate allows regen. the skill description will say if it stops mana regen while channeling.

for example on Lightning Blast

[mystic karma]

How much corruption does Sanctuary remove?

[desert tree]

3 options

• A little bit
• Roughly half
• Back to 100

[mystic karma]

And you get to choose on completion?

[desert tree]

Yup

[twin oak]

as much as you want really, you can repeat those choices as many times as you want in the same sanctuary without having to kill the boss again

[pallid sentinel]

My friend and I tried to do the harbringer quest part 2. We defeated the end boss of last ruin on corruption 100 but the harbringer didn't spawn. What went wrong?

[toxic echo]

you need to keep the corruption up according to the quest. you also cannot kill the same harb more than once for teh quest

the factions panel will tell you what ones you have killed

[pallid sentinel]

I killed him already but he didn't. Acoording to the quest you need 100 corruption and he started the map with 100 corruption.

[charred barn]

are their tier 2 idol mods?

[pallid sentinel]

Do you know what else could have caused the problem?

[toxic echo]

no

[upper crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7oSUkFiwA
So, this build stacks cold damage for earthquake which i have trouble understanding how it increases the damage of earthquake as earthquake cannot be converted to cold in any way. Does anyone know why this apparently works?

[toxic echo]

if you killed him already, and its your monolith, prolly isnt going to spawn.

id make sure the other guy is the party leader and using his monolith

[pallid sentinel]

Party leader, that is it. I was party leader.

Thanks 🙂

[buoyant condor]

looks like he is using the "Shattered Lance set" to scale cold damage with super high health regen + flat cold melee damage on the sword and the sceptre. Only the implicit melee damage of the sword and sceptre is considered physical for earthquake. The skill does not have to be cold to scale cold damage.

[faint cape]

Yeah, meteor bear would probably still be using rampage for clear. I don't know if actual storm bolt rampage is viable; before rampage's lightning strikes were changed to storm bolt they were very good and could be run as a build, I just haven't looked into it since.

[faint cape]

Weird that they would use a scepter for shattered lance, but not pick ice sceptre for a free extra chunk of flat cold...

[buoyant condor]

yeah that is a bit of weird choice now that you mention it

[azure siren]

in my loot filter settings, what tier of class affixes are worth shattering?

do i filter out tier 4 and below

[buoyant condor]

I do based on how rare the affix is/how often I find it and shatter all items I find with that affix until I feel like I have enough

[mortal siren]

Is (+ x damage to spells) supposed to affect the tooltip dps for relevant skills?

[desert tree]

• X Spell Dmg is supposed to affect every spell

[trail wave]

+x to skills and hybrid health are the most important ones, at season start i'll shatter them even on lower levels

[shrewd sentinel]

early in a season, or on SSF i usually start at tier 3, then as i get enough to craft 1-2 items (5-10 shards) of most things i'll bump to t5 so i'm picking up less items. once i've gotten to 20-30 class shards of everything i turn it off.

[azure siren]

is it magic and rare or exalted too?

[quasi walrus]

when is the new cycle coming out

[shrewd sentinel]

any item with a t3 class affix is what my rule looks for.

[azure siren]

okay thanks

[toxic echo]

April

[upper crow]

Huh, interesting

[gentle harness]

@hard prism So if I found the item with LP, it would have something other than +1 and +12%?
Interesting. The 12% endurance probably doesn't do much for me, but +1 to all skills seems great. It's procing and giving me anywhere from 2k to 15k shields, and I'm mostly wakling through blood, frost, and death at 491 corruption

[hard prism]

Weaver's items don't have LP, they have randomized affixes, that you have to "reveal" by wearing the item, which then "levels it up" and reveals the affixes, and the number of tiers is the number of the weaver's will item. So when you see "Weaver's WIll 16" that means it could have a T6 affix and two T5 affixes 6 + 5 + 5 = 16. These items cannot be "slammed" like a unique with LP

[plucky parcel]

when is the story going to be finished?

[naive pike]

Unknown.

Not 1.2

That's all we know.

[twin oak]

if you really want an affix you should first try to get it with rune of removal, because it gives you all the shards
rune of shattering instead gives 0-all shards for every affix

[icy owl]

What does this "Increased Item Rarity" Refer to?
Simply high corruption or?

[sharp zinc]

Do we know approximately when the new season will be? Just so to not start during the end of the previous one.

[icy owl]

1.2 is slated for April, dunno if there will be a new season before that.

[sharp zinc]

Hmm Would you suggest starting out now or waiting it out?

[icy owl]

I started 2 days ago

Based on that info, I dunno what else.. Honestly I just enjoy playing the game, and had taken a break for Wow expansion, Factorio expansion and PoE2.. So here I am again 😄

[sharp zinc]

Ah yes, poe2, I was considering it too but thought to wait until it's fully polished. So what's better than a good run off last epoch I think meanwhile.

[icy owl]

Yea, it's definitely undercooked, got a long ways to go to be good. Unfortunately most of the players get very defensive if you say anything bad..
"IT'S EARLY ACCESS! PLAY SOMETHING ELSE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT!" As if EA isn't excactly meant to fix issues... 😄

[sharp zinc]

There is no justifiable early access with a full price tag, that's called quality assurance testing.
We used to get paid to test games so that they arrive at the hands of players/customers in full quality.
So... Yeah. It's important to mention issues so that they fix them.

So I'm with you on you in this one.

[twin oak]

it means monolith rarity increments, from modifiers and corruption

[sharp zinc]

Also thanks, now I know it's worth continuing my character. I had some wizard guy with elemental powers I can't remember that class, it I can find good builds.

[icy owl]

Can always just play non-cycle if you wanna keep playing an older character and not worry about when the new season arrives

[icy owl]

Thanks, assumed as much, just didn't know if it was a CoF buff or something "Global"

[storm wren]

🤔 .

[desert tree]

Are we back at looking player count and saying the game is dead already?

[timid pike]

Hi everyone

What must i do with the yellow gear/weapons i pick up?

[surreal verge]

If you don't plan to use them, don't pick them up.
If there's an affix you want, rune of shattering them.

[storm wren]

I guess they're based on twitch stats more

[timid pike]

So it can not be dismantle ?
or
Can i just sell it?

[buoyant condor]

You should never really sell anything anyways. Its all not worth enough. Only pick up what you might use

[tranquil obsidian]

so i have a problem..
I rolled a char for each base class but i always have problem at empowered monoliths, either of survivability or too slow
I have hoarded all non boss uniques and a well stocked assortment of exalt and shards/runes/glyps.

Is there a build i can put together to farm fast and reliably empowered monoliths, bosses included, without relying on the higher tier boss legendaries or going guitar hero on abilities to cast?

[surreal verge]

Rune of shattering dismantles it.
Selling it gives next to 1 gold.

[surreal verge]

Shadow Daggers.

[lone adder]

anyone is good with necromancer builds ? i need help with a build but idk which items can be good for it.

[surreal verge]

#💀┃acolyte

[tranquil obsidian]

this one?
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-daggers-bladedancer-guide

[surreal verge]

Yes, thought there's also one for falconner

[timid pike]

Rune of Shattering is like 2000 Gold from merchant

[surreal verge]

If you need the affixes, yes.

[timid pike]

What is this and what must i do with it please?

[desert tree]

Complete quests to unlock the rest

And you can places idols in the slots you have unlocked already

[timid pike]

How will i know if its an idol?

[desert tree]

Can you share a screenshot of your inventory

[timid pike]

I can but, i do see anything like an idol

[desert tree]

Oh its empty xD

Its thoses stuff

Btw dont forget to activate Windows 👀

[timid pike]

Im lvl 15 will still be able to get these idols?

[desert tree]

If you have unlocked idols space you should have some already
(the guy that unlock them drops 2 on the ground)

Also they should start dropping from now

In zone above lvl 11

[timid pike]

so it will only be in my inventory, i hope i did not missed it.

[buoyant condor]

they drop on the ground like regular loot, you might have put some in your storage chest

[timid pike]

@buoyant condor ,nope nothing there

Do i need to start over?

[buoyant condor]

nope you get bunch in campaign and even more in endgame

[timid pike]

😬 ok, thank you. I will keep an eye 👀 out for them

[desert tree]

Yeah dont worry, at some point you will have too much of them ^^

You are a mage, arent you ?

There are bigger idols that exist
They are class specific

Theses are for Mages

[icy owl]

If you die to a Nemesis boi, do you lose whatever he had in him?

[toxic echo]

it stays until you fight him and beat him

[icy owl]

Fair, ty.
I was worried about losing my Ukheiros in case I got rekt 😄

[mortal siren]

Is there a significant xp boost for killing monsters higher level than you?

[icy owl]

A mob gives a certain amount of exp, based on its level.

Kill higher level mobs = higher exp gain

[surreal verge]

It's tied to the area level. Killing mobs 11 or more levels above you will only give xp as if they are only 10 levels above you.

[olive forge]

does it stack

[faint cape]

No

[olive forge]

epic

thanks

[sharp zinc]

seems like the character I had made recently is moved to legacy, when did the current cycle start and when will it end? (nvm I saw it is in april that it ends, though I couldnt find when it started)

[crystal jackal]

It started sometime this summer. Don’t remember exactly. But they did a reset in October if I remember correctly and moved all cyclone chars from before that date to legacy.

[sharp zinc]

yeah I played late summer so I thought it would stay thats why I got confused about it and didnt read anything about cycles after early summer.

[desert tree]

The first start was July smth
But we had a reset in October I believe

September October cant remember

[sharp zinc]

okay, I just hope it wont reset before the next cycle, just made a runemaster to start again, didnt play since beta

[tranquil obsidian]

just a question about eternity cache: for armor and helmets, can the Exalt be a type of any class? Or it restricts only to helm/armor for the class I'm using?

[twin oak]

any class

what may happen is that the legendary you make becomes restricted to classes for which the transfered affixes belong exclusively

eg + levels of whatever

or % mana

[tranquil obsidian]

if only there was a way from maxroll or lastepochtools to filter by the most popular T6-T7 affix slammed into legendaries, it would be hella easier to keep the stash organized and the loot filter strict enough. Everything is so rare that i have panic attack about the fear of hiding the perfect exalt for another top tier build

[faint cape]

Started 19 Sep iirc

[clear star]

immune to damage bug?

[uncut scarab]

This is pure hopium, but can I target boss drops with prophecy? (Unique glove from Julra prophecy for example)

[torn sierra]

no, prophecy rewards only give non-boss items

[charred zinc]

anyone else unable to login?

[uncut scarab]

Yeah, thought so. Prayging for LP 2 obsession. Back to the grind I go

[charred zinc]

n/m its letting me in now

[empty plume]

So what's the general strategy around what to break down? I'm level 27 and wondering if I should just be saving my runes until endgame or if there's anything I should be shattering along the way?

[candid elm]

so 27 is pretty early and you're going to quickly run out of shatters and not enough money to purchase a lot more. later in the game, you'll have a lot more money, so it's easier to purchase extra shatters at 3k gold each, when needed. if you have an item you don't want that has an affix you want to craft, feel free and occasionally shatter.

in the late game, i use the shatter runes on items that have an affix i may want to use in crafting. note that shatter always gives at least one affix shard, but on items with more than one affix, it randomly gives you between zero and tier number of affix shards for each affix. Example, T2 Strength and T7 +skill, maybe shatter just gives you a single Strength shard affix and zero +skill. or maybe 2 Strength - which is the max for that affix as it was T2 - and zero +skill, etc. so it's possible that shatter may give you zero of the affix you want.

if it's an affix you really need, for example maybe you're looking for a +skills shard, you may want to consider using removal instead first. removal always gives you the tier number in affix shards on what it removes. remove a T7 affix? you get 7 affix shards. now you can still have removal not get the affix you want and the item run out of forging potential. but you can still shatter on an item with zero FP. so maybe you'll still get it with a shatter in the end.

[empty plume]

Great explanation, thanks!

[surreal verge]

They don't have the data for that to filter.

[desert tree]

No but if you are CoF you can get multiple boss drop at once

[clear star]

im immune to all damage and cant attack ? anyway to fix thgis tried to re logg and restart but keeps happpining

[surreal verge]

Are you in offline mode? It's an offline-exclusive bug

[clear star]

No I'm online

@surreal verge making game unplayable

[surreal verge]

That's weird. It sounds like you have a weird desync problem, could be a connection issue.

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[lost jolt]

Can't find info, when new season starts?

[toxic echo]

#news message

[lost jolt]

Oh, now i see in April. thank you

[naive pike]

Presumably.

Plans can change.

[tranquil obsidian]

i don't know why but with my thorn totem shaman i'm getting problems visualizing attack with aoe from mobs. It happens mostly with void siege tower monoliths and with the ice nemesis circling vortexes. It does not happen with other classes. Is it a known bug?

[desert tree]

Not that I know of
Maybe there is too much vfx and you cant see the aoe coming ?

Thorn Totems is very visually heavy

[toxic echo]

if you havent...always worth a verify files to make sure the file isnt busted for it

[tranquil obsidian]

will do a client recheck

just did a monolith an noticed that te circles were not visible where there was high grass

[exotic perch]

hey i am following a build guide for my shadow daggers blade dancer and in one part it tells me that wings of argentus with LP shadow daggers pen can double my DPS, how does that work? i dont understand how this unique helps me

why would i use that over an exalted chest

[surreal verge]

Probably the haste on hit? I have never seen a SD guide recommending wings this version.

[exotic perch]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-daggers-bladedancer-guide#build-scaling-header

see at the bottom

[surreal verge]

Good chance it's an ancient text since the current aspirational gear setup uses null portent, which makes sense.

[exotic perch]

yeah

[torn sierra]

The reason the build uses Wings of Argentus is for the reduced damage taken while moving. The only way it increases your DPS is if you are able to add the recommended T7 affix to it, explained in the bottom part of your screenshot.

[exotic perch]

oh okay then i just misunderstood it

i did notice the reduced damage taken mod but i expected that to be in the defensive tab

[candid elm]

Yeah Wings is mentioned in the Defense scaling section as well

[flint citrus]

How does attack speed work? Say my weapon has 1.16 attack speed naturally, and I have 149% attack speed.

Is that 1.16 x 2.49 for a total of 2.8 attacks per second?

Follow-Up question: Is base attack speed when dual-wielding pulling from the slowest attack speed weapon you have?

[edgy sphinx]

Math make head hurt.

[desert tree]

You need to factor in the Base Speed of the skill too

Rive's 1st and 2nd attack have 1.833 Base Speed

[flint citrus]

So does that supercede, or is it applied to, the base attack speed of my melee weapons?

[desert tree]

1.833 x 1.16 x 2.49 ~ 5.30

Also for DW you average between the 2 weapons

[flint citrus]

Okay so I'm actually at the cap of smites per second then - the only other buff I can get there is finding another Palarus for the additional smite cast percentage to actually use the attack speed I've got(Other than just raw dps from rive)

[desert tree]

??

Whats your % Chance to cast Smite on your Palarus ?

Do you use 3rd Strike Rive ?

Having a 2nd Palarus wont allow to cast more than 3 Smites/Sec

[flint citrus]

Smite, when cast on hit, can only be casted 3 times a second. Assuming you have 100% cast on hit chance, that'd be the cap. My point is that my Palarus can only cast it 32% of the time(bad roll unfortunately), so I'd need to find another Palarus to get the percentage up further to more effectively use the cast smite percentage and attack speed

[desert tree]

If you hit a pack you can proc multiple Smite

[flint citrus]

I actually was wondering that. So it's actually cast on hit, not on swing

Some games like to limit things to "per attack" because you can do some silly stuff with "on hit"

[desert tree]

It does say "Cast on Melee Hit"

Also Melee HH can cast it too

[flint citrus]

HH?

[desert tree]

So you are effectively attacking 10.60 per second

Healing Hand

[flint citrus]

Ah. I wish I could see my healing hand damage lmao - guess I need to turn on damage numbers above enemies to see it

[desert tree]

See the difference in wording here

Left > On Melee Hit
Right > When you use a melee attack

Left > you can get 3 Smites on one pack
Right > No matter how many hit you get with the trigger skill you only get one Cast

[flint citrus]

Cool. So LE is actually direct with their language. I may or may not have been abused by Fatshark one too many times in Vermintide and Darktide

[desert tree]

They try to be

[icy owl]

Is monolith progress still character-based?
Or will I be able to go to whatever timeline i want/empowered directly on an alt? Or will I have to redo it all, including Harbis?

[toxic echo]

its still characer based, but there are some catch up mechanics to speed things up

[icy owl]

kk, I'm almost there, just wanted to know what to expect.

By catchup.. What do you mean? Faster Stability or is it just that I can select previously farmed blessings?

[toxic echo]

faster stab with glyphs of envy, blessing npc to change it once the alt beats the timeline, so it reduces the farming needed

[icy owl]

But Harbis are fully "Start over and progress the faction anew"?

[desert tree]

Once you beat a regular timeline with your alt you can go to the blessing npc and get Empowered Blessings from that timeline. If your 1st char has done it and they are min rolled. But still its a nice power boost

No Harbis are shared accross characters

Same way other factions are

[toxic echo]

factions are game mode unlocked

[icy owl]

Fair enough, I just realised I didn't seem them in the faction tab, even tho I saw CoF and MG from lvl 1

[toxic echo]

i dont think it pops up until you get the quest in endgame

[languid lotus]

hi guys, this is probably common question so apologies - but WASD movement, what is the status ?

[toxic echo]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1230529134443364422

its so common it has an FAQ

[gilded dome]

You need to beat a harbinger for it show up. On a alt this is on the first 90 time line

[languid lotus]

ok wow, thought they would be prioritizing it.. coming back from PoE2 it now feels pretty bad.. I want to come back but can't bring myself to the old movement style

[toxic echo]

it would require an entire overhaul of every single skill animation in the game. and thats just not feasible on their current timeline. its not off the table forever, and Mike has said they are testing things with it. but its not coming soon for sure

[icy owl]

Yea, if only it was as simple as "If W, move up, if S Move down" lul

[languid lotus]

fair enough - but it'll hold them up for sure. now that PoE2 has done it, its basically required for any AARPG.. its a control input feel thing. it'll stop adoption and people returning until they change that. I love the game, I've come back because I think it'll be more fun than PoE2 current state but I can't do it for now unfortunately. I will check back in 6 months

[icy owl]

I mean, it's good yes. But it's also beyond annoying the second you add a second player in PoE2.

So if GGG, with their years devoted to it + the massively larger team aren't able to get it to work flawlessly, expecting every indie dev to also do it, is just excessive tbh

[alpine pendant]

What level of corruption would the T4 Arena's last waves with the avg. 500% extra health/dmg corresponds to? Since that is where I'm starting to get close to dying it would be nice reference when getting corruption

[candid elm]

I didn't think I wanted WASD movement in ARPGs, but after playing a bunch of survivor type games and then trying WASD in PoE2, i've changed my mind. i would definitely use WASD in LE.

[calm harness]

Hi all, been a hot minute since I last played, I think I played when multi first launched then stopped shortly after. Is there some kind of fix for never being able to enter the game? I launch it from steam, play online, select my character and try to join the world but I am just stuck endlessly loading into the old road on the cycle world / server

[toxic echo]

yeah, i think with poe2 doing it, the player base will pressure ehg into doing it now. i dont think it will be 'soon'/'soon enough' though.

[toxic echo]

thats normally where vpn's block LE for whatever reason. if you have one, make sure its fully shut down

[calm harness]

man this is really annoying if that is the case, looked up online and people in the LE forums seem to be a coin flip if the same vpn will let them play or not.

[toxic echo]

yeah. im no expert, but, i assume it has something to do with the routing the vpns take. idk if its more of an LE problem or a VPN problem. but they often dont play well together.

if you can get in, make a bug report about it please

[icy owl]

Anyone else getting massive FPS drops randomly? It's only LE, the rest of my PC isn't struggling, RAM is only on 50% Usage, CPU sub 15%, running a 4070 Super and a 7800X3D, so shouldn't be a hardware issue.. And it's not consistent.. (Except the last 2 monos on my Summoner just now...)
I've tried lowering the settings but it doesn't seem to have any effect...

I know it's not a lot to work with.. But I'll go thru a mono or zone, changing nothing, and suddenly I go to like sub 2 FPS.

[toxic echo]

you can try some of the stuff here https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1232339048425590785

but also there are times where its just the game/certain collection of mobs/projectile attacks that dont play well. if it happens, try and do a bug report about it and what might be causing it. like ice elemental projectile attacks were a big issue in previous patches

[icy owl]

Cheers, I'll try it out.. I've been trying to find anything consistent.. It's the reason I stopped playing my warlock.. It was basically every 3rd or 4th mono that'd get rekt by freezing up, and losing like 3+ "Gaze of Orobyss" attempts due to it..

[toxic echo]

warlocks fissure was also a big issue for a time as well

[icy owl]

Yea, I thought maybe that'd be it. But I assumed it'd be consistent when I used it, but it'd happen when I was just jumping around spamming Soul Feast.

[toxic echo]

but even just putting in a bug report with an idk, still gives them the game data to look at

[icy owl]

Sidenote.. Now we're talking bug reports.

A bunch of new shrines have been added, But am I just doing something wrong, or does the "Open port till end of floor of dungeon"-Shrine straight up not work, and the "Beam of physical damage rotates around you" not show up in-game at all, but somehow still doing stuff?

Didn't see any post in bug-reports about it.

[toxic echo]

known issue

[faint cape]

500c is about 500% more health/damage, but when you account for having some echo mods on, more around 300-400c roughly

[faint cape]

The portal shrine likely opens the portal somewhere nearby, it's a bug in dungeons (or at least sanctum) with shrines that create game objects afaik, like the gold shrines or any that spawn minions.

[icy owl]

Yea ok, I've done quite a lot of the Soulfire Bastion, and have yet to see the portal spawn.. 😄

[flint citrus]

Is there any way to target remove affixes, or is it just slamming runes of removal and praying

[toxic echo]

chaos glyph is targetted, but random outcome.

or yes, pray with removal

[faint cape]

Glyph of chaos replaces a target affix with another at random, but the affix needs to be T4 or less. Glyph of despair can seal an affix, it's guaranteed to work on a T1 affix on a 4-affix exalted item, but still decent chance at T2-3.

[trail wave]

Where can I see the passive points and idol slots i get from side quests? Not sure how many I still need to do

[icy owl]

Open the Map (Standard Hotkey M) and it's in the bottom left. Press shift if you don't see it.

[zealous turret]

Is controller remapping coming in the next controller-focused update? I was trying to add the loot toggle button to directional-left since it has the useless party button on it right now..but apparently I can't..

[candid elm]

If you can't with the in game settings, you can also check the steam overlay controller stuff. You might be able to do it with that instead

[zealous turret]

Yeah, that's what I ended up doing. But there's a slight hitch as it toggles back and forth between "gamepad" and "mouse/keyboard" 😦

[uncut scarab]

is this gear usable? trying to decide. its lacking in x speed prefix. is dodge stacking real?

[surreal verge]

You normally don't dodge stack with gear, just with skills and passives.

[uncut scarab]

right? understandable. might be a decent placeholder then but i'd really rather have x speed prefix then

[exotic perch]

slam it with a rune of research

that seals the blue mod and frees the slot for crafting

so you can put a desired prefix on it

[tiny helm]

Do two handed staffs count as mellee weapons? They have melee and spell damage on them.

[surreal verge]

What's the context for needing a melee weapon? Skill requirements?

[tiny helm]

titan heart

[surreal verge]

It counts iirc.

You can double check by auto attacking with it.

[jagged rivet]

Hello! Are all legendary / unique items somehow viable at least endgame? Playing with a party of 3 and we are really loving the game.

[surreal verge]

In theory, because legendary potential exists.

Some uniques are just niche or TOO niche to find a place.

[jagged rivet]

Cool. Thank you! Need to read about legendary potentials then

[jagged rivet]

How far is the xp share in a party?

[twin oak]

a bit over 1 screen away

at least it wasn't several screens I think

[grand shoal]

Can confirm both parts

[jagged rivet]

The skipping of stories and content with alts. Like dungeons. How will it be able to give the character the idol slots from quests that got skipped in towns?

[toxic echo]

it doesnt. currently you have to backtrack to get them

tho there are more quests than rewards you can get. so you dont always have to backtrack

just depends on what you do and what you skip

[buoyant condor]

you still have to do the idol slot quest for now, I think they said that they want to improv that aspect of levelling with alts

[toxic echo]

mike did say that in the dev stream. tho i dont think there are any solid info on it rn

[buoyant condor]

yeah I was trying to find a source for when and where they said that

[toxic echo]

iirc it was fairly early in the dev stream friday. the vod should still be on twitch? might have been moved to yt by now

[hybrid fractal]

I am having the same issue and am able to fix it by pressing Enter to bring up the chat which brings back my cursor.

Definitely seems to be trying to read input from a controller despite not having one connected.

[knotty vessel]

is withering a curse ?

or just an ailment

[twin oak]

it's been a while since I played warlock but I think it is just an ailment
in the in game guide in the Curse page it is not listed as a curse, unlike everything else

[toxic echo]

Just an ailment that makes curses do more

You can always check on lastepochtools

[cedar locust]

Or check Tunklabs

[faint cape]

Yes, the only non-melee weapon type so far is bows

[icy owl]

I generally don't say this, but the Harbingers on Last Ruin are bullshit.. The "3 lines" have no warning of where they start, so if you're unlucky, well they just started in ur face and ur dead.

[grand shoal]

There is an indicator, sadly only an acoustic (she says something like "move") and sadly it can desync a bit.

But it is not "no warning".

Agree tho, that a visual telegraph would probably be nice

[icy owl]

Yea, you can also tell because she stops moving and puts her staff forwards

But I meant that you have no clue where they will spawn.

[grand shoal]

As workaround always stay close to the outer circle border

[icy owl]

I just stand somewhere, hope it's right and am ready to blink..

[desert tree]

Wands ?

[faint cape]

Funnily enough, they are melee weapons, too

[desert tree]

Even without any Flat Melee ?

[surreal verge]

It might be tied to their auto-attack animation?

[desert tree]

Is there smth that rely on a melee weapon that we could use to test ?

[faint cape]

Actually found a perfect quote! #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[desert tree]

Oo

TIL

[faint cape]

idk if there is anything in game to test, but I suspect it's what makes the auto attack skill a melee hit or an arrow

(since those are the only two options so far)

[cedar locust]

I spent so long looking for a gif where someone just hits another person over the head with a wand instead of using a spell xD

[buoyant condor]

there is also the unique wand "Alchemist's Ladle" that gives melee attack speed

[desert tree]

True

[uncut scarab]

does spell damage scale DoT damage? what about crit? flat melee/ranged doesnt im pretty sure?

[toxic echo]

depends on the dot you are doing

some dots are spells

anything hit based does nothing for dots naturally, dots dont hit

[storm wren]

which gif?

[surreal verge]

A standard DoT is only scaled by it's damage type and Damage Over Time affixes.

[uncut scarab]

my specific case is electrify via smite. Which is a spell?

[toxic echo]

electrify isnt a spell, so its not going to be effected

[surreal verge]

Electrify isn't a spell. It's a standard DoT.

[uncut scarab]

ohhhhh i see. so the debuff itself would need the spell tag.

[surreal verge]

Non-Standard DoT examples:

[empty plume]

Is it just me or is this a great drop at level 32?

This is what I have equipped currently.

[grand shoal]

If it helps you, it is a great drop! GL on the rolls 🤞

[empty plume]

It's from a nemesis, I empowered it, now let's hope I can win it 🙂

[exotic perch]

yes definitely

[sonic saddle]

@knotty vessel #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message it'll scale with the more damage from the skill you hit with, not spirit plague. The node gives conditional stats to your character, not a conditional effect of spirit plague

[faint cape]

It doesn't gain any scaling from any skills except the bleed penetration nodes in spirit plague

[lofty condor]

Boa noite, recebi um é Mail do jogo falando para entrar no discord para receber alguma coisa, mas não entendi muito bem o que fazer

[toxic echo]

the server is in english only, please.

there are no active events running, so there is nothing to receive here in the discord. if you could, DM @grave epoch with a copy/screenshot of the email, they might know more. or reach out to support with the same directions

!support

[ripe brook]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[azure siren]

best lenses for target farming creation?

[sonic saddle]

doubled rewards, doubled uses, higher chance of rune prophecies

[boreal parrot]

hey, blessings: when you beat a boss and reroll blessings, do all the 'best' rolls for each blessing get saved at the vendor that lets you respec those blessings or do they only keep the ones that you've chosen from a boss kill and let you swap those around?

[novel lotus]

Oh, why can't I stick to the options settings to mute error voice lines anymore? It unchecks every time I finish

[torn sierra]

yes, the vendor will save blessings at their highest roll for the character they were unlocked with

[faint cape]

Just keep in mind it doesn't work right for the few blessings that have two stats. It saves the copy of whichever blessing has the highest roll for the first stat, regardless of whatever the second stat rolled.

[faint cape]

Try verifying the integrity of your files, but most likely deleting the ini should fix it

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1230894702900023346

hopefully

[median zenith]

Appears to be a UI bug; thank you for calling this out. I've logged an issue internally so this is tracked.

[novel lotus]

I ran a file verification yesterday, and again now. There were no issues with the files, but after restarting the game, I was able to do it

[novel sundial]

Someone knows that intelligence improve ignite dmg or not? The same with strenght and bleed dmg? Its scaling somehow?

[sonic saddle]

there's also a bug with the "display health bars over enemies" option impacting whether health bars are displayed over your minions

i literally just figured it out right now cos i've been trying to get the health bar for summon scorpion to work for ages...

[sonic saddle]

damage types and methods do not have inherent scaling from attributes. What does apply is attribute scaling for skills, if you apply a damaging ailment with a skill that gets % increased damage from str, that % increased damage will apply to the ailment

it doesn't matter what ailment it is

you can apply frostbite with a str based fire damage attack and it'll still get the str scaling

[novel sundial]

So for example if i have chance to ignite on hit and use rive to land a ignite on enemy; so in that case my ignite dmg is buffed from my strenght stat?

[sonic saddle]

yes, because rive has strength scaling

[novel sundial]

I was thinking about ignite/bleed rive build by using cleaver solution, and now its seems its not needed

Its little confusing especially u see only number of aliment stacks on enemy without distribution od sources

And stacs have differend dmg depends on source

[sonic saddle]

yeah

[empty plume]

Can't decide which is better for me, any advice? Working on this build now: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide

[sonic saddle]

the left one has int and % increased health. that one

[sonic saddle]

ah, i think the tooltip is worded unclearly.

it shouldn't say: "you have a chance to apply bleed when you hit an enemy afflicted by spirit plague" as that suggests conditionally applied generic stats which if implemented that way would scale with the skill that did the hit, not spirit plague.

it should instead say "spirit plague has a chance to apply bleed when you hit an enemy afflicted with it"

[faint cape]

Yeah, it's worded kinda weird and doesn't function the way we'd expect more modern effects to work. It's very similar to how bone curse's bleed works.

It doesn't scale with attributes nor any of spirit plague's nodes though, other than the laceration node itself and the bleed penetration node

[sonic saddle]

oh it's very weird

rough

[novel lotus]

Update: After playing for a while, I closed the game. Now, after returning, the mute error voice lines button automatically unchecks itself.

[shadow field]

Hi.
I got 2 filters from Maxroll for 2 separate builds, is there a way to merge them somehow in game?
So i can see item highlight for both builds at the same time?

[toxic echo]

not unless you physically combine them into one filter

game only handles 1 filter at a time

[shadow field]

so i open in text editor and toss rules together?
thanks for info

[cedar locust]

There is a rule amount limit - 75, iirc. Also if one rule overrides another it could cause issues.

You could combine them though I'd recommend manually checking each rule for anything that's been doubled up or might cause conflicts like 'Hide all Not-My-Class Uniques'

[toxic echo]

uh, to an extent yeah. but there is the 75 rule limit, which could possibly mess it up a little. but i dont mess with the actual text file too much. i just do in manually ingame

[shadow field]

alright, thanks

[icy owl]

Anyone got experience playing the Aura of Decay Lich build in the latest patch?
I remember it being my main Mono-Farmer in the beta, since it rushed thru everything super ez, but I haven't been reading the balance patches much, and just see no one is really playing it on the ladder, so woried the damage won't keep up?

[surreal verge]

Any build that ran Aura of Decay would have done better without Aura of Decay.

[storm blaze]

Sad but true

[icy owl]

Looking for something to blast some monos. My Wraithlord is fun, and can handle 300 corruption, just feels kinda janky in the long run haha

Feel myself enjoying the "Arena" Monos, as you can just let him stand and blast

[fringe oak]

How do you guage how much corruption you can handle on maps? Trial and error? So far I'm at 160-175 and not having too much difficulty.

Is there a sudden leap of difficulty, like when you hit 200?

[icy owl]

Just keep going till u get rekt pretty much

[fringe oak]

Hah, ok thanks

Last question, I can obliterate the t1 and t2 sanctum boss, but the t3 is one shotting me with the giant AE attack she uses. It seems to cover the entire room, so I can't avoid it. Any ideas?

I'm at 1.1k health, 1.1k mana, 5.5k dps on my main attack, and my resists are all maxed

[toxic echo]

use the mechanic the dungeon teaches you

press d to change timelines

[fringe oak]

Ok thanks

[uncut scarab]

am i missing something, why is the 1 LP unique weapon prophecies so expensive? does it turn the chance of rolling 1 lp into 2 lp or something?

[fringe oak]

Is there a mechanic where the nemesis or mage are not placed on the first couple of maps after a new login? I tend to crash a lot and I never seem to see them when I log back in.

[surreal verge]

It turns all LP0s into LP1. Including items that are hard to get LP1 in the first lace.

[surreal verge]

No, it's pure RNG iirc

[toxic echo]

nah, just bad rng

[uncut scarab]

you cant do anything to target those rarer items though right?

[fringe oak]

ok if you guys say so, but the statistical unlikelihood is mounting

[surreal verge]

No, so it's kinda just better RNG in a sense.

[uncut scarab]

tbh it still doesnt seem to math up in my head, but maybe this is for extreme endgame if you're done with all other uniques or something "shrug"

[tranquil obsidian]

guys, just asking before i go all night to do it
as a compulsive reroller i don't want to miss any good build defining idol (the one sized above 2x1) but i'm sick and tired to check all of them and finding all with the wrong combinations
Did someone already compose a idol filter with all the good combos for the most popular builds after 1.1 cycle?

[hidden trellis]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[faint cape]

Your head math sounds right, the 1 LP prophecy is never worth the high cost. In extreme end game it doesn't even benefit you at all since it doesn't affect odds of 2+ LP.

[uncut scarab]

Yeah, especially with the COF rank….6?or 7? Bonus increasing LP1 chances. I rarely get LP0 gear nowadays

(For the common bases)

[faint cape]

Yup, and that double LP chance buff does affect chances for 2+ LP

[sonic saddle]

Yeah the at least 1lp prophecies are awful

AFAIK even if they scaled up your chance of rolling 2+ lp they still wouldn't be worth it for the vast, vast majority of cases

[finite prairie]

when does the next season/league start?

[faint cape]

April

[finite prairie]

ok thx

[sonic saddle]

Actually with the introduction of nemesis pretty sure they're not worth it ever even if it scaled up the 2lp chance

Cos you get a 2nd shot at lp on stuff that doesn't roll it

[azure siren]

how rare is a 3lp peak (cof)? should i keep slamming these 2lps or keep farming for 3lps

[desert tree]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/lp-chance

1 in 15

So fairly common I guess

[prisma sleet]

so i just got a patch drop... anything big just get added or something?

[desert tree]

01/08/2025 Update

Yes, this was the Unity 2021 Engine upgrade
No, this should not affect anything player facing as these changes are for internal support only such as new tools for our team to utilize.
This means no resets, no wipes, no graphics updates, no new content yet
As usual, if you notice any bugs please report them using the In Game Bug Reporting Tool

[prisma sleet]

so a backend system patch but nothing big. just something that can help the devs out and pave the way for season 2. got it

thnx. saw the update and was like.... uh whats this? but with what they've said will be happening, doing a patch to drop backend tools in makes sense

at least to me

[faint cape]

Yeah, with a big backend change like that, it's wise to release it ahead of the major update so they can hopefully catch any serious issues

It also means now we're no longer in a hotfix freeze, but I won't expect anything serious coming before 1.2

[tranquil obsidian]

i hope they will soon add a mode to add LP 1-3 to unique without LP. The nemesis egg is practically throwing a 100K faced dice three times hoping for the best and you even risk losing the item if you get killed

[jovial sinew]

anyone else getting this error after update??

[jovial sinew]

i did, but it say all files are good tho

[onyx bobcat]

when is league 2?

[toxic echo]

April

[tranquil flicker]

If you haven't already, be sure to follow the steps here (https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1210283526210191380) to submit a bug report, that way the back end can take a closer look to see what might be happening. 👍

I'd also attempt doing a full uninstal and reinstal to see if it solves the issue.

[faint cape]

The nemesis egg is basically that thing you want, though it can give up to 4 LP

[azure siren]

so if i get 3lp instead 2lp i would be adding some % hp. Should I just farm until i get the 3lp then? i am upgrading from a very optimized all exalted setup

[desert tree]

Giving its 1 in 15, it seems rather easy to farm.
Thats all I can say

[azure siren]

Word. these 2lp slams giving me headaches

[tiny helm]

Mana bulwark passive on sorc says damage dealt to mana before health. Does this only apply to damage that would hit HP or does it also apply to Ward?

[desert tree]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/damage_taken_from_mana_before_health

Damage Taken From Mana Before Health stat does not protect ward, similar to endurance.
Can also be found in the ingame guide (default key G)

[faint cape]

There is a separate stat called "damage dealt to mana before ward" which does apply to ward and health, but that is currently only possible to get from the flame ward buff

[empty plume]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide#skills-and-passives-header
Can someone help me understand why Static Orb is slotted in as the last spec? The build doesn't seem to use it.

[sterile widget]

Hey y'all - anybody got some clues on getting the "Merge materials and resources" button to work? I click it and nothing happens 🙂

[real grotto]

Did you check your material storage after clicking it ?

[surreal verge]

Flame Rush Procs it.

[sterile widget]

I can see that the material storage is going blank if I have it open at the same time I press the transfer button

[solemn anchor]

Hey, I've been trying to play today since that new patch came out but after selecting my character I sit "forever" on Connecting. Is anyone else seeing this? I am using the Oz server, ta.

[faint cape]

The button still stays there after the deed has been done and gives no feedback that it did anything at all, are you sure it didn't merge?

[empty plume]

Ahh yeah I see now.

[sterile widget]

oic. well, i honestly have no idea as i was expecting feedback and wasn't watching the numbers. 🤷 cheers mr toast

[cedar locust]

Hi there, is this still an issue?

[azure siren]

Why would I sometimes not getting an eye drop from harbinger? Corruption too low? Only getting needle

[toxic echo]

yeah, its not 100% drop after the first ten

more corr is the answer

tho anytime after the first ten its never 100% drop

like, 450-500 were pretty consistent for me tho

[desert tree]

There is 1 eye garanted on the first kill of each Harbi
After that it's a drop chance

[azure siren]

is there a sweet spot for corruption level? someone said around 1k-1.5k and after that favors have deminishing returns and content becoming hard

[desert tree]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/scaling

[azure siren]

i see thanks

[soft storm]

@cedar locust
When i click on necrotic shroud, for example (or any of them) it does not drill in where i can see/buy the item

[tribal meadow]

Weird, I'd save my points for future cosmetics though

[soft storm]

For further fun, i also tried using my controller to drill into it, which also didnt work.

[gaunt igloo]

theres no class that can dual wield two handed weapons right?

[toxic echo]

no

[dull finch]

Was there a patch today? My Steam client downloaded ~7gb

[toxic echo]

engine upgrade

[dull finch]

Thanks!

[gaunt igloo]

aw thank you....now gonna cry some where haha

[buoyant condor]

wait I misread don't mind me

[knotty vessel]

damage bonus from attributes on skills dont scale DoTs right?

[surreal verge]

It would scale the DoT applied by that skill. DoTs basically indirectly inherit attribute boosts from the skill that applied them.

[knotty vessel]

so lets say i use shuriken and have frostbite on hit, would that scale with the increased damage from dex?

i chose that ailment since it isnt built into the skill

[faint cape]

Shurikens has

generic increased damage applies to frostbite, so yes it benefits from the dex scaling

[nimble bear]

hey, which comes first? armor or ward? does stacking armor makes sense on a ward build?

[knotty vessel]

armor comes before ward yes

[nimble bear]

thanks! 🙂

[surreal verge]

Armor protects ward as usual.

[knotty vessel]

just in general going low life or ward on a rogue, what would be a good way to get ward retention ?

for example going a marksman i have a hard time figuring out a nice way beside int stack

[faint cape]

In the past, it has been frostbite shackles and stacking cold res. That was nerfed by half so not sure what the strategy is nowadays, but probably mostly look at uniques that grant ward retention

[hexed bolt]

am i the only one that has huge performance issues since the engine update?

[faint cape]

I haven't heard anyone else mention that yet, but definitely please use the in game bug report and provide any details you can to them on what the issues you're having are

[hexed bolt]

i did shade and my fps jumped from 60 to 5 to 60 and so one^^

[faint cape]

the in game bug report sends your game log files by default, which should have some helpful info for them to use to figure out the issue

[hexed bolt]

i hope so, should i put it under "gameplay"?^^ idk what is the best categorie

[toxic echo]

yeah, thats fine. as long as the igbr gets sent, thats really the big thing

[hexed bolt]

ok top. idk if i can do something to give the performance a boost, but i think better then streamer-mode isnt there or?

[toxic echo]

there is an faq that has a bunch of things to try for fps issues

but that is one option

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1232339048425590785

[hexed bolt]

ahh thx, wanted to ask^^

i hope something fixes it, because my hardware isnt so bad

[toxic echo]

worst case is something weird happened with the update. make sure you verify files first, as well. thats a common problem with LE

[hexed bolt]

ok i try it. i realized the difference between yesterday and today and even on stream somebody realized it

[faint cape]

Yeah, there are inevitably some issues with things like updating the game engine, but that's why they wanted to release it a while before 1.2, hopefully to catch and fix problems like this before the big content drop

[hexed bolt]

yeah thats fine and good, i cant wait for 1.2. i also checked if the gpu gets to 100% or so but it never wents over 25% or so

[faint cape]

I often hear that LE's bottleneck is CPU

[hexed bolt]

cpu never gets over 35% and gpu never over 40%. but a friend and i had the assumption that the engine sometimes cant handle huge dmg numbers. we had last cycle the problem with our wraithlord builds that always when the wraithlord casts the game freezes a little bit

[dense timber]

Hello, can someone help?

why does my game start lagging after previously minimizing the screen. I turn on the game, go to the character, everything works, then I minimize the game to windows and go back, but then my character starts running backwards and the whole screen has an uncontrolled drop in game fluidity

[tranquil obsidian]

guys I'm quite confused on how to maximize the chance of getting the Glyph of Insight using Rune of research... Do i have to seal only T6 experimental affixes to have the max 45% chance of getting the Glyph?

[empty plume]

Any thoughts on this choice for frost claw runemaster?

[toxic echo]

neither is great, but the experimental can still be crafted on so that one has better potential

[upbeat seal]

Is the bug were the items dissapear after taking portal is supposed to be permanent ? It's so persistent that it looks like it's intended for the items to dissapear so i'm wondering

[toxic echo]

you mean the maps resetting? its been around long enough its pretty much a feature, but it is technically not intended

[vapid sonnet]

why does this build have points in multiple masteries? i thought you can only pick one

[toxic echo]

you only get the full tree of the one you pick. you get the left halves of all subclasses

[upbeat seal]

Last times i played, i didn't had the issue. I mean the bug were if you portal and comes back all items dissapear. Also dying on a mob on multiplayer also remove loot from ground

[vapid sonnet]

i feel dumb for never realizing this lmao

gotta read things better smh

[upbeat seal]

Didn't had this bug for the first 200 hours of the game, and suddenly after coming back, it appear 100% of the time

[toxic echo]

leaving the map has always reset the map you are in, including wiping items on the ground. one of the reasons its best to never go back and sell items. really shouldnt ever leave a map to go to town ever.

[upbeat seal]

it was the case before ? i really don't remeber it occuring on my first 200 hours xD

whenn i mean the map i talk about campaign maps

not monoliths

i know that in monolith you can't portal back

[toxic echo]

yeah, campaign too

[upbeat seal]

oh soo in campaign thats intended too ?

[cyan jacinth]

Is there a correct way to attach player data? If this is the incorrect channel for this question I apologize.

[toxic echo]

no, its not intended. but its been around a really long time

[toxic echo]

as long as the box is checked, you good

[tranquil obsidian]

i'm having huge stutter in Volcanic city map. Does it happen to everyone?

[hidden trellis]

Could you please verify the integrity of your game files?

If that doesn't work, please submit an in-game bug report.

[tranquil obsidian]

already submitted one, but i was wondering if everyone is having it.
Also I 've just revalidated the client, no errors

[upbeat seal]

hope it will get fixed one day xD

[tranquil obsidian]

oh so it's not a feature? i found it annoying at the start but after getting a good filter and seeing that barely the uniques and set are worth something, imho it can remain "bugged"

[toxic echo]

this is mikes response to the persistent map thing #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[tranquil obsidian]

honestly I agree wholeheartedly. There are more useful things to fix/implement

[echo imp]

Anyone facing super lag at shadow of orobyss fight after last patch?yes only happen at shadow of orobyss

[dim pelican]

should I be saving the soulfire bastion keys I am getting while leveling?

[uncut scarab]

is there a skill/item that convert ignite to poison chance?

[faint cape]

You don't need to avoid using them, you'll get plenty later on in the game

[faint cape]

I don't think there are any ignite -> poison conversions in game. I can't think of any, at least.

[uncut scarab]

yeah, did some looking around LET but didnt turn anything up. thanks for affirming

how real is "health gain on kill" as an affix? likewise with stun avoidance. those seem like dead affixes to me

[violet pagoda]

Is it worth spending the keys to skip campaign on an alt? I just hit level 20 and am debating it

[rich wigeon]

What does your Stash tabs layout look like?
I'm kinda stuck with too many items overflowing (like Exalts for example)
Was wondering if I should start culling them down a bit

Don't have enough money from Monoliths to keep expanding the inventory as quickly

[sonic saddle]

Yeah dead affixes

[faint cape]

Better than reflect, but not something you aim for on anything

[faint cape]

If you can handle it, go for it. Keys aren't valuable really anyway

[uncut scarab]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1baty6i/tldr_quick_leveling_cheat_sheet_for_alts/
this is what i follow for levelling alts. Assuming you have some leveling gear so early mono isnt awful

effectively, get to chapter 5 -> do monos from level ~30 to ~60 -> sanctum -> do chapter 9.
should get all the passive and idols.

[ember igloo]

Hi folks, trying to get started, but after choosing a class and viewing the intro video, I see a message saying online multiplayer is unavailable - the game is on my firewall's allow list, same with antivirus. Has anyone else run into this?

[ember igloo]

Playing in US West, which seems to be online

[faint cape]

Are you using a vpn? I hear those sometimes give trouble. If not that, then not sure