#❔┃ask-the-community

1 messages · Page 348 of 1

dense roost
#

Nah each character is unique from another. You can even make multiple runemasters in the same cycle if you wanted

desert tree
#

Valdyr Chalice is a relic, right?

dense roost
#

yes

#

oh I wrote amulet when I meant relic lmao

#

my bad

#

had the Last Ruin part right though

desert tree
#

Good

#

Just wanted to be sure you are not doing what I did last year, and try to target farm a boss unique in the wrong timeline kappa

dense roost
#

Haha appreciate the look out

dense roost
glass iris
#

1 quick question hi

#

does killing harbinger in the boss fight increase the chance of getting better blessing?

glass iris
#

ok thx

wary quartz
#

Guys, in the temporal dungeon, if i want to merge my lp uniques with exalted items, does the exalted item need to have some forging potential left? Also, does it need to be 4 mod or can it be 5 mod ( sealed ) as well ? and does it take the sealed one into consideration for rolling it onto the unique?

dense roost
#

No, has to be 4 mods, if it's 5 the sealed affix will be ignored

surreal verge
wary quartz
#

Thank you

acoustic thicket
#

I erased my relic, what to do now? Was mistake.

#

Is there any better in slot than ambition's of acolyte?

dense wasp
#

Twisted Heart

acoustic thicket
quasi pagoda
#

can manifest armor gain ward?

surreal verge
snow mantle
#

Is high stunce chance worth it at 400+ corruption?

surreal verge
lofty terrace
#

Armor shred only affects direct damage right, not DoTs?

desert tree
#

In 99.99% of the case yes

#

Runemaster has some shenanigans for that

lofty terrace
#

Cheers

mighty fern
#

Any Polish native speakers? wanna get some feedback about LEtools translation, Because checking myself isnt very worth. Do someone from Polish could check the translation and if everything is understandable etc? Of course, if YOU want. Thanks in Advance of course!

pure pond
pastel wind
#

Do you need internet to run this game now? I know when it dropped there was an offline mode

stiff crystal
#

Anyone know what's the condition for items to not be tradeable ? I mean, sure, items dropped from prophecies, but otherwise, i wonder what's making other items dropped not tradeable

#

And i'm not in CoF faction tho.

#

Ok yeah i got my answer

glass iris
#

hi , currently i want to discuss something on how to help on my build

#

anyone that is free , are free to dm me , appriciate it

abstract hill
#

is the d4 dlc worth it

chilly totem
#

harbinger quest part 3, i have to kill it in exact 125c? cz right now im in 300c and the quest still not completed

storm blaze
#

Higher works too
Just has to be a different one than you've killed previously

chilly totem
#

ahh i see, ty man

quasi pagoda
#

can manifest armor parry?

faint cape
amber cedar
#

Guessing you can't rune of ascendance harbinger uniques?

dense jay
#

Harbingers' are boss drops. You cant get boss drops out of ascendance

signal solstice
#

Hey just want to make sure my 1.1 character is now a legacy character. Was there a new cycle between 1.1 and upcoming 1.2?

manic crypt
#

Question...what does "previous timeline" mean when talking about rewards being affected from previous timeline?
Is it the previous monolith?

sonic saddle
storm wren
signal solstice
#

Awesome thanks guys

faint cape
woeful pasture
#

If I get affix "increased Damage over Time" instead of "increased Elemental damage over time" its the same thing right?

desert tree
#

Yes but Ele Dot rolls higher

woeful pasture
#

yeah got that just wanted tio make sure its not a wasted stat

#

just not getting any other gear with elem over time so thought might as well use the one i have with damage over time

surreal verge
novel lotus
#

Can we have 6 Skeleton Vanguard with Dark Retribution and Harvested Legions?

desert tree
#

I believe the max is 3 no matter the source, but I would wait for an actual Acolyte player to answer

surreal verge
cedar light
#

What do you think would be the tankiest build you could do, if damage didn't matter and all you had to do was survive forever.

surreal verge
#

Something forge guard related.

faint cape
#

or beastmaster

novel lotus
#

Beast master, dodge, regen, drop damage taken, leech health

faint cape
#

There's certainly still some nutty ward stuff, too. And then after a certain threshold, everything shifts over from actual tankiness to you just need the most stuff that lets you avoid taking any damage because everything is a 1-shot.

manic crypt
faint cape
#

Huh, I'm not familiar with that loading screen tip. In general, nothing gets affected by timelines you've previously done aside from glyphs of envy and any benefits you get from that timeline's active blessing.

#

I wish we had some list of all the loading screen tips somewhere lol

quasi pagoda
#

does anyone have a list, maybe a google spreadsheet of things that do or don't work with manifest armor?

#

it's not obvious and I hate to annoy people with each case as I think of them

faint cape
quasi pagoda
#

cool, will do

stone tapir
#

ive been trying to change my region but it stays on us central im in us west i have it set to west in gameplay settings and in the party settings too but it stays on central anyone know how to fix this any help is appreciated

tranquil flicker
stone tapir
#

oh ok ty

rich flame
#

Is there a bug report somewhere?

#

I hit 100 and then it wouldnt let me tp anywhere and kept giving me errors

#

So now I restarted game and it tells me this when trying to login to my character

#

Seems to only happen for my 100

tranquil flicker
#

I'd also suggest validating your game files via Steam and seeing if that solves the issue.

quasi pagoda
#

I slapped an untagged Vaion's Chariot into an egg and empowered it, and afterwards it empowered with a CoF tag. Any idea why? The character that empowered it is CoF, but none of my rewards impact Nemesis- that's Forgotten Knights

faint cape
rich flame
#

If COF does anything to impact outcome at all, it becomes cof marked

quasi pagoda
#

it didnt get LP, just a tier 4 resist

#

that's really frustrating

faint cape
#

hm yeah, that kinda sucks, I'd put in an in game bug report

river iron
#

Does my character that i created before harbringers and its in legacy have that ? i have another that i created in harbringers patch and i have it in there

tranquil saffron
#

question - when farming for gambler's fallacy, does it matter much which tier of soulfire keep I farm?

faint cape
river iron
#

or i forbot something

faint cape
#

Yes, you just need to unlock the FK faction first by completing a level 90 timeline (kill the boss)

#

It's kind of an awkward way to have to unlock it for legacy chars that are already in empowered, maybe they'll change it someday to work on level 100 ones

river iron
#

ill do

near vale
#

I'm trying to complete campaign without choosing a mastery which means I cant access sheltered wood. Is anyone willing to give me a wp?

noble prairie
#

Does the Reowyn's Veil node on Frost Claw work with indirect casts procced from melee attacks? I can never be sure about these things anymore ever since I learned that "when you cast X" usually only mean direct casts.

vapid cipher
#

hi, If there is 100%(+) increased Duration of Stuns Received, is there immunity to stun?

surreal verge
pure pond
#

Idols provide stun immunity after using Teleport for mage. Actually it may be done to 100% uptime.

dense tundra
#

question regarding arcane ascendance skilltree: how does 'Acuity' node interact with channel spells? if you hold down to channel a skill, does it all count as one usage 'charge'?

#

haven't even unlocked the skill yet, just curious how that would work if, say, you're using Disintegrate a lot

surreal verge
dense tundra
#

ok, definitely gonna try that with this Disintegrate mage

#

can't move while Disintegrating or channeling Nova anyways

storm wren
#

@humble cargo What info should I give to clarify the environment of Chinese market so Foton can do corresponding solutions for expanding the international influence and where should I post them once I'm done the report?

#

I know the general info but I have no idea how to give many examples to verify my opinions are solid.

humble cargo
storm wren
#

Time to contract the support again lol

#

I guess it's a good chance to convince EHG to add skip campaign option 🤭

humble junco
#

anyone got some advice on pros and cons of Life / Marina versus Low Life / Mad Ladle version of Warlock ?

dense tundra
#

oooh, a shrine I haven't seen yet, Shrine of Lizards. wonder how many loot lizards it spawns. . .

#

answer: too many for me to kill, with no freeze option on this mage 😦

#

still got 4 of them, which is nice

stable oyster
humble junco
#

@Kzb just said the opposite re Ladle vs Marina

stable oyster
#

ladle is even able to outscale wrongwrap with many flat dmg sources added

#

marina is a starter, like a weapon you wont be even slamming

#

there's really nothing special about it

humble junco
#

i dislike Wrongwarp cos of the random TP it annoys me intensely

surreal verge
stable oyster
#

grimore elixir, curse dmg flat idol + affix helmet

surreal verge
#

Grimore? Really?

stable oyster
#

+like maybve 18 total from passives

surreal verge
#

I understand the curse affixes and idols.

stable oyster
#

hey im just saying its there

surreal verge
#

But it probably doesn't beat wrongwrap in overall usesfulness.

stable oyster
#

no it doesnt

surreal verge
#

No one's crazy enough to deal with grimore's micro.

stable oyster
#

well i was :3

#

and then it does outscale wrongwrap

surreal verge
surreal verge
#

Not a lot of people are willing to do THAT much micro.

stable oyster
#

yes imo wrongwrap is #1

kindred laurel
#

hello, what class is this?

stable oyster
#

golumn

surreal verge
kindred laurel
surreal verge
stable oyster
#

@surreal verge confluence i forgot

neon compassBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (36) / Warlock (57)

General:

▸ Health: 1,189, Regen: 13.54/s
▸ Mana: 393.51, Regen: 13.42/s
▸ Ward Retention: 489%, Regen: 259/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 24 Dex / 109 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 127% / 49% / 49% / 86% / 16% / 702% / 50%
▸ EHP: 1,589 / 1,364 / 1,364 / 1,984 / 973 / 1,543 / 1,375

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 238
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (112)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,800)

Damage Types:

Necrotic, Fire, Cold / Spell, DoT, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Harvest (20)
Chthonic Fissure (24)
Chaos Bolts (20)
Rip Blood (20)
Profane Veil (20)

stable oyster
#

i did a fun build for poping potions for 240% movement speed

surreal verge
#

Wtf how much did you farm for the LPs

stable oyster
#

um like the whole thing before reset

#

the original 1.1.1

surreal verge
#

Ah

stable oyster
#

i even bricked this ;D

novel lotus
#

Fail line 3 lol

novel lotus
stable oyster
#

i have these

novel lotus
#

Why not T7 melee leech health lol

sick basalt
#

Which timeline gives poison res

surreal verge
novel lotus
surreal verge
#

Oh you're talking about gloves.

#

He does have a T5 there

novel lotus
#

Yes, I have one, and it's fantastic for this all-in damage build

vocal plank
#

Health gained on crit works with Peak of the Mountain right? Because it isn't leech?

vocal plank
#

Cool so that works the way I think it does

grand shoal
#

This ingame tooltip is just non-sense, isn't it?

pure pond
grand shoal
#

Ye, 58% would already be a number that is not possible if I'm not wrong 😄

pure pond
#

55% is a maximum iirc

grand shoal
spark timber
#

does anyone know whether or not they fixed the targeting of Javelin with sierpin's fractal tree or the Divine Fury node? (splitting spears)

dense tundra
grand shoal
#

Hmmm, elaborate please. Makes no sense to me atm

dense tundra
#

on character info screen, if you go past elemental resistance cap, the amount you 'normally' have is show in smaller numbers below the capped number you've hit

#

i.e. 78% shown below 75% which is the cap

grand shoal
#

Even if there is a hidden cap, you can still reach something like 55% max and my Gloves are faaaar from being perfect, I have actually 20+15+8 = 43

dense tundra
#

hmm

grand shoal
#

Mostly asked to doublecheck any oversights from me. Probably there was a way to scale that stat or something like that. Tho I think if that was possible, most probably would have known that 🙂

crystal schooner
#

Any idea what to do here? I do have steam open

toxic echo
#

assuming you have played since march last year

crystal schooner
toxic echo
#

then you actually might have to migrate your accoutn to steam if its been a while

#
Last Epoch Forums

Hello Travelers, Over the last few development cycles, we’ve been working on merging both our single-player and multiplayer builds of Last Epoch into a single game on Steam. Starting with 0.9, creating an account with an e-mail and password will no longer be necessary, as the client will be able to log-in using your Steam information. Beginnin...

crystal schooner
toxic echo
#

then yeah, just kill steam and try again

crystal schooner
storm wren
#

First time to know I need to log up le by my email before

#

Buy it on steam but register the amount on another platform is the past?

toxic echo
tall otter
#

Guys, what is Strike of Flurry?

#

Ah, I figured it out, pressed alt...this is a spell for an archer, apparently...

storm blaze
#

Flurry is indeed a Rogue skill

tall otter
old marsh
#

Hi, completed the 10 levels of the Forgotten knights faction, died with the character I unlocked it in HC, now all my other characters are only level 1, is it normal? Isn't it a bug?

#

Are these faction levels only linked to a specific character?

#

I thought I had to unlock empower with the characters to reunlock the 10 levels but it isn't working...

faint cape
#

Factions should stay with your stash, there have been bugs that cause some stuff to be lost though so it wouldn't be unheard of.

#

it should be like you say, unlock empowered and you should instantly be at the same quest/faction state

old marsh
#

mmmh... it would be annoying to do again the 10 levels 😭

#

Idk what to do to fix this, a friend of mine has the same issue

faint cape
#

Definitely do an in game bug report, aside from that I'm not sure 😔
Maybe a support ticket could also help? idk

toxic echo
#

just to be clear...you had a HC cycle toon that died...and your other HC cycle toons dont have the faction progression?

old marsh
#

Exactly

#

The only HC character that managed to unlock and do the forgotten knights 10 levels died

#

After this, every single new character I have seems to start from level 1, even after unlocking empowered monoliths

#

Am I missing something?

toxic echo
#

have you played SC this cycle before? if not you could make a quick SC toon just to see if the progression moved there?

#

also you didnt check the solo challenge box on that HC toon?

old marsh
faint cape
old marsh
faint cape
#

Does that ghost still have rank 10 FK?

old marsh
#

The strange thing is that my friend has the exact same issue

#

Let me check

old marsh
#

Yeah he has the 10 levels

#

He is now SC

#

But my other HC characters still have the 1st level even though they've unlocked empowered monoliths... uh weird

#

I don't know what to do tbh

toxic echo
#

yeah i think toast was right when they said the faction progress should stay with the gamemode stash...thats how it moves to legacy and stuff. i dont think there is really anything you can do besides start again. but def do a bug report

old marsh
#

😭

#

That's so frustrating

faint cape
#

Sounds a bit like the old blessing issue, where "discovered" blessings weren't bound to the stash and could be lost if the char that found them died

#

I agree, it's a pretty bad bug, hopefully the info above + in game bug report will give them enough info to fix it. I don't remember if they are able to fix it retroactively or not, but just in case they can, I recommend to not delete your dead char with the rank 10 FK

old marsh
#

Yep, so i guess we'll do an in game bug report

#

:/

warm onyx
#

is there a way (I don't think there is) to filter items based on faction requirement?

#

I want to use the CoF Rune of Ascendance bonus but I can't seem to find a way to filter items that way

faint cape
#

unless a bug removed it

#

I use one like this, say I want to use the rune on boots:

noble onyx
#

hello guys, i have a charachter lvl99 runemaster (legacy now) but all my items requires items level idk why, any idea pls ty.
ddnt acces to the game for like 2 months

warm onyx
prime patio
#

Is it possible to have class specific affixes put on a unique and then a different class to use that unique with affixes that it normally does not have access to? Not sure if I am missing something or this is big brain moment xD

toxic echo
#

its not supposed to work, no. a class affix should lock that unique to a specific class

dense tundra
#

is it just me or does Stay of Execution effect on the Rogue's Puncture attack feel really clunky and finicky?

#

where you hold down to charge up the attack, I cant trigger it immediately after evade for example

#

so half the time, my character just sits there instead of charging the attack

storm wren
#

ohhhhh Good change! So undead army is nerfed now 👍

twin oak
faint cape
#

bugged only for class-specific affixes that can be used on more than one class (e.g., attributes, % mana)

queen loom
#

Hello, i found a yellow tail key, where is the secret lizard level? 😲

toxic echo
#

or at least hasnt said

faint cape
#

If such a level existed, we might need all 5 tails for all I know, and nobody could have gotten a whole collection legitimately yet (or at least, it would be astronomically unlikely)

prime patio
#

Trying to imagine what such a level would look like, a wide open area full of loot lizards? 🤣

toxic echo
#

you have to fight a lagon sized loot lizard XD

upbeat plinth
#

How awesome is this season

prime patio
#

What is the drop chance for a loot lizard tail?

queen loom
#

0.01%

hidden trellis
toxic echo
#

think it was datamined at 1 in 10k

queen loom
#

blizzard is slower in development for the secret cow level

faint cape
#

I wonder if the lizard level will be as cool as the bee level

wary quartz
#

Guys, like poe has poeninja, is there something similar for last epoch to check popular builds ?

faint cape
#

or, would be, if either of those existed

queen loom
#

the apple secret room is funnier

faint cape
crystal jackal
#

is Inspired Hunger nide in the Hungering Souls tree bugged?
the tooltip would make it seem like the 40% more dmg lasts for 8 sec, but maomao is saying that it only lasts 1.5 sec, which is the duration a enemy takes necrotic dmg from hungering souls

hidden trellis
crystal jackal
hidden trellis
#

I think what the video is trying to say is that you gain 40% dot damage for 8 seconds after directly casting hungering souls. However, the dot from the skill itself only lasts the 1.5

crystal jackal
#

omg..my lvl 100 CoF lich from pre reset lost all ranks and I can't use any of the gear

hidden trellis
#

one sec lemme find the help page

crystal jackal
#

I can test it on a dummy...

crystal jackal
crystal jackal
hidden trellis
#

Interesting. I'll do some testing myself and grab some clips to bring up with the team

faint cape
#

There are two different durations in play here

#

you get 40% more damage vs. possessed enemies for 8 seconds... but the possess only lasts 1.5s

crystal jackal
faint cape
#

that damage stat snapshots at the time of cast, not at time of application, so when possess drops off, so does the 40% more

#

well I worded that really badly, but anyway you can think of it as not snapshotting lol

crystal jackal
#

this can't be inteded behaviour

hidden trellis
#

I'm not terribly familiar with Lich/this skill in particular I'm mostly a rogue player

#

is there any way to increase posess duration in any other skill tree?

faint cape
#

so first thing:
You must have this buff active when you use the skill that you want to gain damage on (say, whatever skill you're applying poison with), so having the buff up lets you activate the damage bonus later by casting hungering souls.

weak hornet
#

Is there any trick to maintain or at least understand which skill points gets removed when swapping in and out gear with +x skill points? Left feedback about this 6+ months ago but seems to go unnoticed so hopefully it is just something that I'm getting wrong or not understanding. Anyone knows if this is being worked on or any trick to make it less of an annoyance?

faint cape
#

Then the other aspect is the fire conversion changes the condition to "vs. spreading flames" which you need a unique to apply, but any hit works at that point

#

Also, teammates can apply possess or spreading flames and you'd still benefit that way for the full 8s
(also, I think some minions can apply possess, like death knights and abom?)

toxic echo
#

it is intended to be this way (however annoying it may be)

weak hornet
faint cape
toxic echo
#

*counterclockwise

#

it should also blink a little when you look at the skill tree

#

but its not super noticable

crystal jackal
faint cape
earnest badger
#

Good evening everyone, I have a question.
when did the last season start and when does it end? ty

hidden trellis
#

The dot dmg to possessed enemies is working as intended

toxic echo
faint cape
#

I'm not too familiar with stygian coal's modifier, if it makes drain life suddenly not snapshot anymore (like each beam calculated separately), then you need the buff up at the time that beam is shot

crystal jackal
faint cape
#

and then its poison ticks individually decide whether they deal more damage based on whether the target is currently inflicted with posses (or spreading flames), this part does not snapshot

crystal jackal
hidden trellis
# crystal jackal how did you test it?

the inspired hunger buff is lasting the intended time. You need to keep reapplying the possessed debuff to enemies to continue receiving the increased damage though as I understand it

earnest badger
faint cape
crystal jackal
toxic echo
faint cape
earnest badger
crystal jackal
hidden trellis
#

I'm just not familiar enough with this class to know the little intricacies behind it unfortunately.

crystal jackal
#

spreading flame duration is 4 sec, so even then you need to keep reapplying it...but ok, 4 sec vs 1.5 sec....the 8 sec buff is still useless

crystal jackal
toxic echo
hidden trellis
#

are there any other sources of possess available to the class?

crystal jackal
hidden trellis
#

hmm, I'll do a deeper dive into the skills myself, but you're definitely welcome to post in #1210282176680169562 if you believe you have a way to improve the current system!

crystal jackal
faint cape
#

Spreading flames can be applied by any hit, so if you're able to use spreading flames you get the full 8s out of the buff

#

Otherwise, the only real benefit to having that buff last longer, is it snapshots the stat "more damage vs. possess/spreading flames".

#

So let's say you don't have the 8s buff up and you cast chthonic fissure, then spam hungering souls... fissure gets absolutely no benefit from the more damage vs. possessed enemies.
Alternatively, you cast hungering souls to get the 8s buff, then cast chthonic fissure, then spam hungering souls, your fissure will benefit from that more damage vs. possessed for its entire duration (even if you are able to somehow make that fissure last 500 seconds).

#

It's very awkwardly implemented imo, wish I had a better idea that didn't remove the manual casting limit

#

Maybe if you're able to make it modify possess (or spreading flames for fire conversion) to also apply "50% more DOT taken" so it doesn't snapshot at all and just remove the buff part entirely

round grove
#

Weren't these situations fixed?

toxic echo
#

Adjusted Nemesis functionality: If a Nemesis dies after you have died and there are no other living players in the area, it wont drop its items. This is so it can be fought again in the future to obtain those items.

#

By that wording, it still sounds like there is opportunity to lose items in certain situations.

round grove
#

That's a bummer. Yeah, I died from poisoning the very second I killed him. Rip erasing strike boots 😦

faint cape
#

Yeah, if you kill it first and then it kills you, it drops the things

hasty scaffold
#

everyone tells me that the 'Vaion's chariot' boots only procs once every 3 seconds. so only 1 tick of warpath would get the boost every 3 seconds. it's pretty worthless. is that true? is it worthless for warpath?

faint cape
hasty scaffold
icy drift
#

@sly fable btw we actually also have the exact weaver's will odds, it's just not posted on any of the database websites afaik

#

(blue would be getting that exact roll in %, green would be getting that roll or higher in %)

sly fable
#

Interesting, thanks!

icy drift
#

Here's a simulated 0 lpl item's lp drops, obviously not exact because it's simulated but it's used to confirm the theoretical functions for it

#

actual functions say:

#

which matches with letools

sly fable
icy drift
brazen warren
#

is the fire damage on hit from skeletal mage's flaming attacks not supposed to proc the effect of the warlocks chaos flames? is it only "skills" of minion's that can proc that?

icy drift
#

the brute forced simulated ones were just something i did for fun and to also confirm that the math we did was right since it's basically a 1:1 ripoff of the code so the simulation is for sure right

sly fable
#

Ok, but how did you get the math?

icy drift
sly fable
#

Gotcha, so you have the code from the math, and used the simulation to match/verify

#

I'm curious about the actual code/math. Is it something you can or would be willing to share?

icy drift
#

I don't have it handy anymore i don't think (code)

#

and the math is giga jank

#

no simplification lul

#

this is nothing compared to the ww math though

#

that was crazy

#

other people have the math too, you can for sure find it explained somewhere in a way more understandable format

#

@faint cape some demon made WW roll like 3 different variables and then smack them together to get the actual end value, so you add every combination of every roll that results in each ww value and you get something that looks like that (you can simplify it by an insane amount after you lay it all out but i'm too lazy to do anything more than i have to)

cedar light
#

For a handicapped player, Warpath seems like a really good option. My question though, what is the best subclass to make it a 1-button build? Each of them can automate some skills but I'm not sure which would do it best. I know Smite can be automated with Warpath or totems (not exactly great for a new player to find totems though), manifest armor and ring of shields dont have to be clicked, holy aura and sigils can be automated...not sure about healing hands for warpath though, dont think it works? Or maybe another class might even be better for true 1-button setup? I saw a warlock that I think was 1-button but they tend to be pretty squishy and they would have a really hard time playing a squishy character... they tend to play turn based games but they really want to give this game a shot 😛

faint cape
icy drift
#

it's basically just LP with an added layer, but also like if lp could roll from 0 to 28 (not really but they do actually share quite a bit)

faint cape
#

Yeah, simulating is way easier since that kinda handles the weird statistics math for you, always a good sanity check

#

also that was 100% how I passed fluids

icy drift
#

yeah and it gives you something to actually check against, since these numbers weren't posted anywhere at the time

#

ww still isn't i dont think

#

but when i did lp it wasn't posted anywhere either

icy drift
sly fable
#

I imagine the actual algorithm/explanation is more straight forward from the derived formula

icy drift
#

yes, it's way, way, way simpler

#

it's basically roll 3 numbers in different ways and add them together

#

that's all it is

faint cape
# cedar light For a handicapped player, Warpath seems like a really good option. My question t...

You are right HH doesn't play well with warpath. I think one of my favorite low button count builds is vortex pennant bleed, it uses warpath that procs smite on hit (palarus sword) and throws axes (pennant + passive) that also proc smite on hit (idols), all bleeding. Uses a shield, too, so pretty tanky. Only other button you'd want to press aside from warpath is VR, but it's not strictly needed.
Oh yeah, also it's a paladin build

icy drift
#

but because you can get a weaver's will value through lots of combinations (like for 12 you can get it as 8+4+0, or 8+3+1, or 7+4+1 and so on) it blows up when you try to add them all one by one

cedar light
#

Yea, I feel like Warpath has to be the best, just not sure which subclass would get it to 1-button purely. I know Forge Guard can get it with a minion build but the sword/shield version of that build is not so great.

faint cape
#

or attempted

icy drift
#

you can just use the RoA sim for that

#

on tunklab

faint cape
#

yeah, based on reroll

icy drift
#

yeah that's what the RoA sim does

#

oh you mean math wise

#

hell nah

faint cape
#

of course, simulating is simple, I mean the other thing

icy drift
#

you'd need to update it each time they add more

#

that's a no go

faint cape
#

yeah, also you'd need to do multiple per item since they can be in different pools lol

icy drift
#

yea

#

that's a dousy to do as a function

#

you for sure can

#

but yeah it'd be a pain

faint cape
#

we just need to write something that programmatically builds the functions... should be possible, probably not worth the effort

icy drift
#

fun fact: this is extremely close to how corruption scales lp chance, it isn't actually what they do but it's a really good estimation for atleast a couple thousand corruption lol

#

x being your corruption

faint cape
#

that is quite handy owobyss

icy drift
#

the roa sim is more than enough for now

#

the reason i did lp and ww mathematically is because getting a 4lp ravenous void or whatever is literally less than 1 in a trillion

#

and my simulator started taking too much time trying to roll hundreds of trillions of items lul

faint cape
#

yeah, trying to sim that would take forever to get statistical significance lol

icy drift
#

i even ended up multithreading it, but generating random numbers is too hard for java apparently

#

should've done it in c, but even then it'd prob be kinda slow because of random number generation

faint cape
#

gotta set up a thousand servers running it all at once 😂

icy drift
#

but yeah i even made it a little fancy with inputting your values and keeping track of how much time it takes per thread and stuff lol

#

oh wait nvm that's the single threaded version

#

multithread does this in 7 seconds instead

faint cape
icy drift
#

basically just remove the % sign and they're correct

faint cape
#

yeah, looks like accidentally divided by 100 instead of multiplied

#

I was staring at it for a second wondering what was wrong lol, I was distracted by the nice formatting

icy drift
#

and it's multithread

#

i only did 3 here otherwise you can't see the whole dialogue lul, shows the time it took for each thread to finish

faint cape
#

Ooh fancy partygrole

icy drift
#

yeah and useless af lawl

#

but stuff like this can be fun

faint cape
#

heh maybe a lil, still useful for dungeon boss drops though

#

since LE Tools only lists the area level 100 chances, you can use your tool to weight the drop odds for Julra's items vs. LP chance

#

at her different tiers

icy drift
#

optimizing it was a fun exercise though, i don't do that too often

icy drift
faint cape
#

I must have missed the graph (or I'm blind or forgot)

icy drift
#

oh i didn't post it but i have one for lp, i just posted some of the calcs earlier

#

to be fair it doesn't have julra but that's easy

faint cape
#

Ahh okay

#

yeah, Julra's effect doesn't affect 2+ LP anyway

icy drift
#

yea, it's legit just a bool in the simulator that makes it = 1 lp if it rolled 0

#

lul

#

h o l y ternary operator inside the index of the array

toxic echo
#

Nerds. 😛

faint cape
icy drift
#

Outside of variable setup and other fluff this is pretty much everything

faint cape
icy drift
#

i would literally name it itemsArr or something xd

faint cape
#

though at least in this case it's probably fine lol

icy drift
#

I just realized you can do both roa and julra right now lul, fixed ez

tiny helm
#

If I have +5 Spell cold damage does that only apply to cold spells or do other elemental spells now also do say their fire damage with an additional +5 cold damage

toxic echo
#

Any spell gets the 5 cold added to base

faint cape
tiny helm
#

Awesome thank you

icy drift
faint cape
#

Now you see why I'm the dweeb that puts comments in my loot filter

#

It's a simple enough program to be okay, at least

icy drift
#

I can be organized when I need to but if I don't have to you better get your eyes ready for some pain

#

As long as I can make sure I don't mix stuff up and I can understand what's what anything goes when I'm doing a quick and dirty program lol

faint cape
#

I don't think I've done any real sims since I was in school, and tbf I made my fair share of nasty things in matlab

icy drift
#

Matlab is the devils work

faint cape
#

purpose-made, and straight to the bin afterward lol

icy drift
#

And yeah same

#

You're looking stuff up as you go, just copy paste it in, get your graph or whatever and then never touch the cursed code again rofl

faint cape
#

lol yeah

icy drift
#

I remember first time we had to really use it I was in a group of 3, we were all in a discord call with me sharing screen and it felt like 3 monkeys trying to drive a car, somehow making it to the destination and letting the car fall of a cliff afterwards

faint cape
#

That is a very accurate description

#

I think that might be how a lot of designers I work with feel

icy drift
#

Used to be the same with LaTex but I've gotten better at that thankfully lmao

faint cape
#

disappear off to another project, and then nobody can ever reach them again

dreamy coyote
#

is this a known bug where item plates arent displaying? cant see the middle pile

sly fable
sly fable
#

I mean, I'd done a fair portion of my dissertation in it, but like... yeah. And then I learned a bunch of other stuff and was kinda horrified at how little I'd known

faint cape
#

Heh, matlab certainly has its uses, but like most tools that have their own language, ouch

sly fable
#

Which you probably know

faint cape
#

One of the ones on my team barely knows how to open a pdf 😂

sly fable
#

Oof

surreal verge
prime patio
dreamy coyote
#

ive pressed both the toggle loot filter and toggle ground loot buttons several times

#

unless alt z is a third hotkey?

cerulean dew
#

i have a problem i hope you can help me with.. I finished the game on a necro, highest corruption was 400. gathered alot of Harbinger eyes for abberoth, and ofcourse i used them.. But now on my new char, im never getting any from the harbingers? Doing corruption 200+ and killed like 3 4 harbingers and i still dont get any?? -_-

desert tree
#

I think the base drop chacne is 25%

cerulean dew
dreamy coyote
#

ty for confirming

cerulean dew
desert tree
#

No, you could spam the same Harbi forever and still get eyes

surreal verge
desert tree
cerulean dew
#

okay cool

desert tree
pure pond
prime patio
#

Does the size of the loot lizards matter? Sometimes they are small in size but sometimes they are really big, does this change anything?

storm blaze
#

The only thing I've noticed with the big green big lizards is that they'll drop additional set pieces

indigo glade
#

is anyone actually happy with the new shrines?

dense jay
crystal jackal
#

some shrines are so bad (warpath) that I end up with -4,5k mana if I take it. and I need to wait for like 5 min to get above 0 mana again.

pure pond
grand shoal
grand shoal
tall otter
#

Hello everyone, gummies, a couple of questions, as usual:

  1. How does this ability of the ring work?
  2. Who plays as Sentinel, tell me how this perk of Rive combines with all the others, it divides them all by zero, am I right?
dense jay
#

If only echoes last longer, follows you or they spin screen-wide in that 2s kappa

crystal jackal
dense jay
#

I wonder how warslash warpath shrine will do

grand shoal
#

Dividing by zero isn't possible 🤔

dense jay
dense jay
crystal jackal
tall otter
crystal jackal
#

I'm farming favor in a verdant outskirts, 2x enrage beacon setup and I've noticed that my favor gain seems to be cut by what feels like 90% if I continue clearing the map after I find the beacon....

Does anyone know how this works in more details?

grand shoal
surreal verge
tall otter
#

Roughly speaking, this is the same as multiplying by zero, only not in the mathematical context, but as a proverb.

#

So, do I understand correctly that if you upgrade this perk in the branch, it will reset all other perks that improve Rive's third hit, right?

tall otter
surreal verge
tall otter
#

I'm starting to get confused...

surreal verge
tall otter
#

Wait a minute...so technically the second hit becomes the third with all its perks?

surreal verge
#

It buffs a non-existing 3rd hit, making it useless. You can still choose the perk.

tall otter
#

And here's another question about this, I shouldn't go here, I won't be able to get into the dungeon anyway?

tall otter
#

Well yeah, just like in Grim Dawn, apparently there's no point in going, thanks

sour bobcat
#

Can anyone tell me how to unlock aberroth in legacy? I have a 1.0 char I want to play but even with all the monoliths completed it’s locked

surreal verge
storm wren
#

Replay one of lv.90 monolith under normal timeline and kill the timeline boss then you can get the access of void knight.
⬆️ As kzb said.

sour bobcat
#

Oh thanks everyone I haven’t tried with normal monoliths only empowered lol

prime patio
#

Are the servers currently down?

toxic echo
prime patio
#

EU West

toxic echo
#

have you tried another server? typically us east gets you past the login screen

tame lagoon
#

@runic sedge @low shadow I have revised the build idea with the informations/suggestion you guys had. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdVE4O1o
It relies on blind for crit avoidance. Ocearion ring or a good ring of the erased would be used until a red ring could be acquired. The lightning shred blessing is superior at that gear level for bosses but lower gear progression or general clearing would be flat lightning %. Belt is still in the air. I need to work shock chance somewhere once Ocearion is off.

Round 2, go! 😛

neon compassBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,878, Regen: 39.6/s
▸ Mana: 449.51, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 92%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 36 Str / 23 Dex / 23 Int / 95 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 70% / 70% / 77% / 70% / 66% / 66%
▸ EHP: 8,310 / 7,914 / 7,914 / 11,003 / 7,914 / 7,623 / 7,623

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 889
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (307)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,360)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Damage Types:

Physical, Fire, Lightning / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Smite (27)
Healing Hands (25)
Sigils Of Hope (23)
Multistrike (23)
Javelin (21)

desert tree
tame lagoon
# desert tree Still struggling ?

I haven't touched the game or the build idea since last I asked. Busy irl. I do enjoy thinking and creating build + discussing it with others. EDIT : derp, wrong message from ping

tame lagoon
prime patio
desert tree
# tame lagoon

Thats Inc Lightning % ^^
Flat Lightning would be something like this

desert tree
prime patio
#

Ok, then maybe I won't wait anymore. Thanks!

sullen condor
#

when I'm slamming a unique and a purple together to mak a legendary, there's a level restriction on the upgrade cache.
Does that level restriction apply to just the unique, or to the exalted as well?
eg I've got an exactly lv65 unique and a lv77 exalted, can I do a T2 sanctum to slam those together?

desert tree
#

Just the Unique

sullen condor
#

sweet, thanks Vlad

prime patio
#

Is the shrine in temporal sanctum "opens a protal to the floor exit" supposed to open a protal next to you or it opens up the posibility to exit through another door that could be close to you?

toxic echo
prime patio
#

I guess that the devs are aware of this?

toxic echo
#

im sure. but should still throw in bug reports...they might need more data on it

surreal verge
#

@brazen warren I don't want to clog up the dev channel so here:
Any Flat damage increases are added before increases, so +20 fire melee minion damage is still multiplied by any % minion damage increase.

#

That 20 damage could be more useful that you thought.

brazen warren
#

i understand that, but the mutlipliers i was using for fire damage is basically nothing in this build. i wanted the stacking ignites from it as i had a few to spare in skeletal mages and passives. the acutal fire damage from my build is very little.

#

that and dot minion damage is a suffix so another use of suffix as most def suffix are negligible to my minion build.

brazen warren
#

if say i was doing a warlock focused build instead of a necromancer then the 20 fire would be great, the build i was going with was just using up a few points that i had to spare in both the skeletal mages and passives to hopefully get more damage. it doesn't even look like the passive triggers off the necrotic damage that the death knights do as a base.

brazen warren
#

so back to my original assumption that "Chaos Flames" passive in the warlock tree only triggers off of skill usage as it states in its description. So from testing it only works with actual minion skills. these are the only things i have been able to proc it on: Undead Mortars, Death Blossom (casts hungering souls), Pyromancer's fireball, Skeletal archer's fire arrow and Flame Wraith's Fireball. It does not work with any base damage of the minions and for some reason doesn't work with Pyre Golem's infernal aura casts.

surreal verge
brazen warren
#

yea it does. i was guessing it was that it has no "initial" hit is why it didnt proc it. but now i need to rebuild my char to test all of this.

Take away is the "skills" part of the "Chaos Flames" really means only skills.

#

i thought at the beginning since the minions were skills themselves that it would have procced them

surreal verge
#

Yeah infernal aura has not a single hit.

dense roost
#

Anyone else having frame drops to like 0 FPS for like 2-3 seconds at a time?

#

I'm just mapping and then occasionally (likely due to too much happening on the screen) I'll just freeze frame for a bit

toxic echo
#

pretty common unfortunantly. esp with teh lizards and the undead mobs

dense roost
#

Yeah I remember not having this big of an issue last patch

toxic echo
#

also good practice to restart game every now n then too

dense roost
#

Wasn't sure if it was something on my end bc I switched to a newer antivirus somewhat recently and haven't tested it long enough

dense roost
#

There's insane lag when it comes to interacting with the stash too if the game's been open for a bit

toxic echo
#

shut the whole game down.

dense roost
#

gotcha

#

thanks 😄

desert tree
#

It has a hit

#

That hit allows to consume your own minions aswell

royal egret
storm blaze
#

Quite sure those beams are massive damage over time
you have to keep running

desert tree
toxic echo
#

honestly sub 3k health on a pali with that high corruption is a crime

royal egret
#

I have over time mitig :(

toxic echo
#

yeah, i get ya. but you are just super squish. gotta move a bit quicker on that attack

#

and honestly you mighta been fine but ya tried to squeeze in one more hammer throw and were just right in the middle of the beam

storm blaze
royal egret
#

300

#

i think 355

surreal verge
royal egret
surreal verge
#

Today I learned

storm blaze
#

Ah
The 3 monoliths at top were among the first ones I did when it came to harbingers

royal egret
#

i got that defense

#

i don't think its that bad

crystal jackal
glacial ice
#

Anyone have any idea why my game is hyper focused into my character?

#

Downloaded the game onto a seperate pc, and the game was just like this, other UI's are fine like the map etc.

#

Not the mousewheel zooming either thats causing the problem.

hidden trellis
#

could you try verifying the integrity of your game files for me?

glacial ice
#

^^ in an echo aswell

glacial ice
#

Dont know how well this laptop can even run LE to begin with, but thought I'd give it a shot.

crystal jackal
#

are you sure you're not zoomed in?

glacial ice
crystal jackal
glacial ice
#

Wouldn't even be surprised if this pos cant run the game lmao

crystal jackal
#

seems super weird that a low end PC would limit how far you can zoom out....software doesn't usually work like that.

glacial ice
#

Ok, I guess verifying game files somehow did the magic.

hidden trellis
#

good to hear!

glacial ice
#

woops wrong one

crystal jackal
#

that's the same as before...literally the same pic

glacial ice
#

Now it actually looks like how it should, lol.

regal oasis
#

Any1 know why my game keep chaning language to my native instead of leave it english ? I am playing on geforce now but there wasn't isse like this before 1 day ago. It started somewhere today.

glacial ice
royal egret
#

We should report that bug nah ? There the only stairs i saw that can do that

toxic echo
crystal jackal
# royal egret :(

basically, if you think you're in danger of being hit by a dot, you're already too close.

royal egret
#

I don't have Imgur tho

toxic echo
#

you dont need imgur account..you can just post it and copy the link

#

but really anything similar will do fine

royal egret
#

i need to download imgur no ? :o

crystal jackal
#

go there, ctrl+v, copy link

royal egret
#

But when you press report a bug on the game its automaticly take a screenshot of the screen

#

i need to send a video of how to do it, its better ? :o

toxic echo
#

generally better yeah, but its not necessary

#

as long as they get the game files from the bug report

#

but its a lot easier to see 'rampage thru the sky' as a video, then you try and explain where and when it happened

royal egret
#

ooh so i post on youtube and send a link ?

#

Done :D

#

i sent this

storm wren
#

🤣 I even suppose maybe EHG can let us fly so we can travel maps more efficiently by this way

#

Made my night well, thank you so much lol

royal egret
#

i think its work with every continuous dash

#

i can try with shield charge if you want

storm wren
#

yeah more insane please! 😆

#

Programmers always the most busy people in a game studio lol

royal egret
#

Ima try ! :D

storm wren
#

Too coooooool!!!

vapid spire
#

does mana spent gain as ward has a cap at 60%??

twin oak
vapid spire
#

I see, thankss!!

amber cedar
#

Does the lethal mirage -> lightning node (Shocking Grasp) convert the +8/point physical damage node (Maj'elkan Blade)?

#

It doesn't explicitly say it converts damage, only pen and base damage

brazen warren
#

do Death Knights inflict physical damage? it says necrotic melee. But the skill has markers for physical and necrotic.

quasi pagoda
#

In the game guide, the example shows that Freeze rate per stack of Chill and the bonus from Frostbite stacks are 'more' multipliers for freeze chance

#

are these the only multipliers for freeze chance? are there others?

supple raptor
#

Do storm crows gets any bonus from my char int?

quasi pagoda
#

no, but they can give you int

#

storm crows scale from attunement and strength

#

there's an exception in the tempest strike tree

#

your storm crows can get a bonus if you have at least 50 int

faint cape
faint cape
dense roost
#

is arena worth doing? also what's the difference between a regular arena key vs the arena of memory key?

supple raptor
quasi pagoda
#

they lightning strike

#

which scales with attunement

dense roost
#

Today I learned that the hammer Harbinger guy on Age of Winter is disgusting

#

he covered the whole arena in heorot's snowstorm and then with the remainder of the arena, he did his slam move

#

what does one do in that situation? literally nowhere to go

dense jay
#

He is actually one of the easiest harbinger though. Alot of breathing room for melee

dense roost
#

he is easy, but what do I do in that situation

#

where 100% of the arena is covered with something lol

#

like his clone slam move filled in the rest of the circle where the heorot snowstorm leaves open

dense jay
#

Usually his behind is safe from the echo slam but you may get unlucky if there is obstacle behind him or got into tight space, can walk out abit until the slam finishes

dense roost
#

that's fair

#

I've never had that situation occur before so I was kinda left confused with nowhere to run

#

luckily my aurora's timeglass tanked it for me lmao

sick basalt
#

I prefer arena than other maps I have to search god knows where mobs roaming

#

Arenas is faster to clear tbh

dense roost
dense jay
sick basalt
#

It's good to clear abyssal knights quest

#

Gets stabilities faster

dense roost
#

I've never done an arena before bc the arena-specific loot never really mattered for me

#

have done soulfire bastion maybe twice

sick basalt
#

I am more interested on gold rewards

#

I wish there are more of those on higher corruptions

dense roost
#

I hate the arena monoliths. they take so long

sick basalt
#

Than useless glyphs and affixes

#

Imo it's faster

#

They can die as soon as they come out

#

Travelling through the map is more challenging to me

dense roost
#

Guess it depends on the build

sick basalt
#

Yeah I play totem shaman

#

So the whole arena

#

They die

dense roost
#

I'm playing bleed hammerdin so I have to wait for them to come to me

#

and then the ranged ones poke me from juuuust outside the hammer range

#

so I have to manually walk into all the sides to get them lol

faint cape
grand shoal
sly fable
#

Hey all, so I alt-tab pretty frequently, between zones, whatever. One thing I find odd is that when I close the game or alt-tab, the screen somewhat briefly shows me the screen the last time I alt-tabbed. Like, I just closed the game and saw what was basically a screenshot of me in an arena map surrounded by enemies while I alt-tabbed to restart my audiobook.

Is this a problem? Is this a sign of the game doing something it shouldn't? Somehow, my computer is holding on to old stuff that it definitely doesn't need to. I don't know if this is something I should bug report or not, and I don't know if it's a problem or not

vagrant vigil
hoary dome
#

Can i farm temporal sanctum keys with prophecy

storm blaze
acoustic thicket
#

Someone please help me understand the math here? Does that mean High Corruption prophecies will never spawn?

surreal verge
acoustic thicket
#

Then this is bugged, because there are still prophecies with corruption even after reroll

surreal verge
desert tree
#

With Corruption or with High Corruption?

dense jay
#

High corruption refers to 240 to 300?

#

Afaik, if u put mono blocker then no corruption event will appear at all

dense jay
grand shoal
#

I think even the 220 are blocked. Highest "non-high" should be 140 or so iirc

dense jay
grand shoal
#

He did massive testing, would trust his numbers in general

dense jay
#

Damn the view is so bad on mobile

indigo glade
#

do i stay 100 corruption when i play with a mate and he always starts the echoes?

twin oak
indigo glade
#

and when i chose to play alone? i have to farm beginning at 100?

twin oak
#

yes

indigo glade
#

thanks

#

not very multiplayer friendly imo

twin oak
#

I agree, but at least now increasing corruption is much faster than in 1.0

magic pendant
#

yo, is there anyone who can answer something about my build ? It is rogue/dual build i just started and i cant figure it out something.

storm blaze
#

Just ask

magic pendant
#

is there any reason why flurry skill to use lots of mana ?

#

my mana is going -600 or more with it

#

and idk why

storm blaze
#

Hard to say without seeing your character

magic pendant
#

i can show it

#

what do you need

#

or i can just stream it

#

hmm i see no vc, nvm

storm blaze
viscid ginkgo
#

Does Shared Enchancements in the ballista tree include penetration? Or is it just things that are specifically damage?

neon compassBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Rogue (50) / Bladedancer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 1,103, Regen: 14.73/s
▸ Mana: 113.02, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 6 Dex / 1 Int / 3 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 31% / 31% / 67% / 15% / 15% / 26% / 20%
▸ EHP: 927 / 927 / 1,235 / 857 / 835 / 896 / 861

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 221
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (577)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 8% (189)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 9%

Damage Types:

Physical / Melee, Bow, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Flurry (21)
Shadow Cascade (21)
Synchronized Strike (21)
Lethal Mirage (21)
Dancing Strikes (21)

viscid ginkgo
#

also, does it include base weapon damage?

magic pendant
#

is this alright ?

crystal jackal
#

look at coated blades in the rogues passive tree

storm blaze
#

Yeah I'd say it's the coated blades passive

surreal verge
#

My brother in chirst, this makes each press of flurry cost 40+

magic pendant
#

oh

#

crap

#

i thought that does not effect to skill that has no cost

storm blaze
viscid ginkgo
#

alright, thanks 🙂

surreal verge
magic pendant
surreal verge
magic pendant
crystal jackal
#

what happens if you remove coated blades and try to use flurry?

magic pendant
#

i did not try that yet

#

let me see

#

i need to respec it

#

gimme a min

#

my main plan is to use flurry for gaining mana and spam other skill

surreal verge
#

I know dancing strikes would get coated bladed since it has a cost

magic pendant
#

i try to do some made up build xd

surreal verge
#

Which would cost you 129 mana for one arena

#

Now that I think about it yeah dacning strikes is probably the culprit

magic pendant
#

flurry alone was eating all of the mana without using other skills btw so DS cant be it

#

it must be coated blades

#

but lets see

#

i just respected it

#

gonna test it

crystal jackal
#

when you mouse over flurry, it shows 0 mana cost?

magic pendant
#

that is why i could not figure it out

native sail
#

It's entirely possible that in the background it isn't exactly zero cost and it's like 0.1 or smth

crystal jackal
#

does it use up so much mana when you remove coated blades?

surreal verge
#

We’re about to find out

toxic echo
#

coated blades was bugged on warpath shrine too iirc so it wouldnt surprise me if it is also bugged for other things

dense tundra
#

so I know potion-centric builds are probably not meta seeing as I don't see them mentioned much, but is that whole build aspect viable in any way? I see lots of idols with related uses, lots of 'x happens on potion use' traits on uniques and other gear. . .but does it actually work out?

toxic echo
#

eh. its just a lot of upkeep that players generally dont like. also since potion drops are rng, its not super consistent without ways to up your potion drops, or holding an insane amount (there is a unique for this). that being said pretty much every build is viable so there is no reason to not try it.

think the only 'popular' build that uses potions for dmg is ballista? most of the time potions are used for cleanse.

dense tundra
#

yeah, I've picked up a unique that has 12 potion slots and stuff at least twice now, was mostly curious how it works out in practice. that amount of potion spamming doesn't really appeal to me, tbh

magic pendant
#

this fixed it

#

it was coated blades

#

but my dmg got big hit

#

thanks a lot btw guys

crystal jackal
# magic pendant it was coated blades

I'm not sure if flurry is triggering some other skill that costs mana, but I can't find anything.

one thing to keep in mind is though that mana costs are not 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on..
it's actaully in fully decimal cost, 0,0 0,5 and so on, and then the game UI rounds the cost to a whole number on the tooltip, but this is not actually what's happening in the background.
and I'm not entirely sure what's creating a cost for flurry in your build, even if it's 0,3 or simething like that

#

probably a rounding error somewhere

surreal verge
#

There’s also a good chance coated is just bugged in general since the warpath shrine triggers coated

cursive crescent
#

is it possible to take the passive where warpath casts smite automatically, while also going into void? how do the damage conversions work?

id have to take warpath is converted to both fire and void, not sure which gets overwritten

desert tree
#

Also converting Warpath to Void doesn't convert Smite to Void

#

You need the Void Conversion for Smite

cursive crescent
#

oh i didnt notice that, ok thanks

desert tree
cursive crescent
#

yes it is, i actually never thought to check if that was there, lol my bad

#

thanks again

desert tree
#

Anytime

#

I am not sure but I believe the Echoed Warpath can proc Smite too

cursive crescent
#

oooo i likey

#

i think im too used to PoE forcing me to either search in the wiki or ask community xd i like LE info in game as a change 🙂

magic pendant
#

also they should make the ui show even smallest cost imo

#

it is pretty bad atm if it is the case

desert tree
#

That's a different beast

faint cape
crystal jackal
faint cape
#

If flurry is proccing coated blades, it's a bug. I think that's most likely what's happening, since otherwise it's hard to reach -600 mana.

#

It costs 0, so you can use it while negative

magic pendant
#

you can go -600 easy but i did not bother with it

crystal jackal
#

it's proccing dancing strikes, isn't it?

magic pendant
#

im not really familiar with rogue at all

#

just started it

faint cape
#

It seems to be proccing on kills, maybe kinetic blast or some other on kill effect is proccing coated blades?

#

Still a bug of course

magic pendant
#

i have no clue honestly

#

that is why i wanted to ask to you guys

#

for me personally

#

that skill should not increase mana consume if it is stating 0 cost

#

if the cost is not really 0 and it is something like 0,1. This should be shown on ui

desert tree
#

Try unspeccing Flurry to see

faint cape
#

Yeah, if you spec out of that kinetic blast in flurry, you might be safe to put coated blades back in

desert tree
#

Flurry mana cost is 0.0

magic pendant
#

oh oki i will try that

crystal jackal
#

look at the video again and pay attention to your buffs, that circle with the orange blades

faint cape
crystal jackal
#

he's proccing dancing strikes somehow, but Im not sure how...never use that skill

faint cape
#

I don't think you can proc dancing strikes

magic pendant
#

also difference between no coated and coated is pretty huge

#

i get lots of dmg

crystal jackal
#

yeah, it's a 1,8x multiplier on every hit

magic pendant
#

yeah it is crazy

#

it is like day and night

#

im keeping it

#

fk kinetic

crystal jackal
#

1,8x, not 1.4

#

so it almost doubles the dmg

magic pendant
#

i experiment on my own, take whatever i like so

#

i dont like following guides

#

kinetic looked cool when i saw it for the first time

faint cape
magic pendant
#

yep, thanks to you all

#

really appreciated

#

i will pick something else as replacement for kinetic

#

lets see

#

something something cool

crystal jackal
#

ah, kintic burst cost 11 mana

magic pendant
#

what lol

crystal jackal
magic pendant
#

for real....

faint cape
#

It does not actually cost mana to proc

#

Kinetic, that is

magic pendant
#

why the hell does it cost mana

#

it is happens on kill

#

make no sense

faint cape
magic pendant
#

i would understand if it was on hit, not kill

#

if it was on hit, it make sense to cost mana

#

but kill not really

#

imo

faint cape
#

It doesn't actually cost mana to proc it

magic pendant
#

it could have cd instead of mana cost at least

faint cape
#

But the fake mana cost is probably why the coated blades bug affects kinetic blast and not force wave (which has 0 mana cost listed)

surreal verge
#

No way, kinetic was like my 4th guess

#

That's pretty funny

faint cape
#

Kinetic blast can't catch a break 😔

magic pendant
#

banned skill for me basically

#

im not touching to that

#

i will take atk speed instead

#

so i can get more mana

#

yes!

native sail
magic pendant
#

best thing about bladedance is lethal mirage it seems

#

cool skill

crystal jackal
magic pendant
#

i used my left over items on this char

#

it still does good dmg

#

but i do my build based on how i see skill like is it cool etc

#

i hardly look for dmg 😄

#

but this char is most boring one among the ones i made i think

#

it might be early impression as well, im not sure.

surreal verge
#

To be fair, you're er, kinda running with terrible equipment.

magic pendant
#

no doubt 😄

#

i have no rogue items

#

i literally picked what i have

#

like my first char is necro and im getting necro items with rogue now...

#

i do not get these when i play necro 😄

#

rng as it finest

dense tundra
#

I literally just picked that ring up for the first time, on a mage

magic pendant
#

also they added many new totem

dense tundra
#

I have a bow I'm just itching to use, lvl 30 unique with 60 base damage, +4 to Falconry, +2 to Aerial Assault, +1 to Dive Bomb

magic pendant
#

finally

surreal verge
#

To be fair the ring is used quite often for the swiftness.

#

No one uses the crab-

dense tundra
#

my necro would be like 'oh, a summoned crab? eh, add it to the horde'

#

wouldn't even notice it doing stuff with my twinned golems, 2 wraiths, 3 death knights, 3 skeleton vanguards, volatile zombies. . .

magic pendant
#

this is crazy

#

am i finding all of the bugs about mana 😄

#

i just wanna use lethal mirage, gimme a break game.

desert tree
#

Thats Coated Blades again with Upheaval Shrine

surreal verge
#

Coated blades strikes again

toxic echo
#

🙃

magic pendant
#

😩

dense tundra
#

clearly a feature at this point 😏

crystal jackal
# magic pendant dont tell me another bug

you can't take any shrines if you have coated blades and don't know the mana cost of all spells....I end up on -4,5k mana on my cold HoA marksman build when I take the warpath shrine...
takes 5 min to get the mana back

magic pendant
#

i need to sort this out somehow with fitting item

#

i need good mana gain item

#

specially on hit

surreal verge
#

The only mana related affix is max mana and mana regen,.

magic pendant
#

which of the skill is best among smoke bomb, decoy ballista

#

i want to replace shadow cascade with something

#

im not sure what with it yet

#

SC is pretty useless

#

and i did not like its skill tree

#

smoke bomb looks really fitting to rogue like assassin but it feels like useless

surreal verge
#

Cascade is not good without shadow generation.

#

Smoke is a good defense skill.

magic pendant
#

oki i will level it up and try it

crystal jackal
#

does singularity increase poison dmg?

surreal verge
rigid totem
#

does anyone know if the area (-level / corruption) a nemesis is encountered in affects the outcome of putting something in an egg. im currently running lightless arbor t4 (which apparently is area level 23) with the goal of getting 2+lp foot of the mountain. is it advantageous for me to keep the boots and put them in nemesis eggs in higher corruption monoliths instead of using those i get on the way in lightless arbor?

crystal jackal
surreal verge
native sail
faint cape
crystal jackal
native sail
#

That one is technically part of the skill's tree because it is in the source of the skill, so yea

#

It's a little wonky

prisma island
#

can vessel of memory not spawn in an echo web?

crystal jackal
faint cape
prisma island
#

ty

cursive crescent
#

do you have to get hit to retaliate or can you block a hit

desert tree
#

You can do both

#

Blocking a hit doesnt prevent being hit

cursive crescent
#

ok ty

glacial ermine
#

Hello folks , i have a problem and i want to contact Devs , can i use ModMail to contact em? will they see it?

surreal verge
#

Mod mail is a method to yes.

glacial ermine
desert tree
#

!support

ripe brookBOT
desert tree
#

Work aswell

glacial ermine
hidden trellis
glacial ermine
storm wren
#

👀 Checked out EHG job openings, 3D environment artist job still living

#

Both of job seekers and bosses faced the cruel fact lol

kind ivy
#

Is it possible to get Alts quick to like level 70 besides the Campaign skips? i mean like getting leeched through some monoliths or sth?

toxic echo
#

yeah, but you still need to go do the campaign for passives and idols

kind ivy
#

yeah but with some build this should go way faster i guess? Anyone interested in giving me some EXP? 😄

toxic echo
dense roost
#

how dangerous are T3 and T4 dungeons?

toxic echo
#

T3 kinda meh. T4 pretty dangerous until you are comfortably doing 300 corr

dense roost
#

I’m running ~250 corruption pretty smoothly rn but got some prophecies and slams to do for T3. Mostly scared of getting 1 shot by the Lightless Arbor boss slam or dying to Julra somehow

#

Lightless Arbor boss big slam move comes down so quickly, has a huge aoe, and most of the time the light is kindling the thing to the side

prime patio
#

Is there any guide or youtube video to tell best gold investments for lightless arbor end reward?

dense roost
#

Don’t think I have the time to dodge it when I’m pressed up against the side

#

Any tips?

toxic echo
#

Or just stand in the 3 areas where it never hits

prime patio
toxic echo
#

Yeah

#

The doorway

#

And the very far left and right side under the kindling

#

Those are small areas tho. But the doorway is pretty big

prime patio
toxic echo
#

But again, its also the exact same second everytime. And always left side then right side. Its pretty easy to avoid

last lotus
#

Is it better to scale the Falconer’s falcon with bow or throwing damage? I can only imagine how it works but am very curious which feels better since you can’t get throwing damage on melee weapons

dense roost
#

Very simple indeed

toxic echo
#

Basicly, yeah

hearty cypress
#

need help - wtf?

toxic echo
#

I have never seen that before. I would recommend a bug report, and verify files

hearty cypress
#

verify no help

mortal thicket
#

Hi
I need a build that will be comfy to play and good for farming for expensive builds, any recommendations?

hidden trellis
hidden trellis
# hearty cypress HowHi

Oh, sorry. Could you also submit an in-game bug report and let me know when you do? The info attached is super helpful to the team

hearty cypress
hidden trellis
#

Thanks for submitting that! So killing the boss again and selecting a new blessing fixed it?

hidden trellis
#

Thank you for the info 🙂

mortal thicket
#

also can i change "ascendancy" or it is still forbidden for some reason?