❔┃ask-the-community

[red ember]

Before I was following an AaronRPG video

But my health would shred so fast, that I couldn't swipe, i mean my dps was garbo to say the least

[west ferry]

is this last epoch? or just a wrong title

[acoustic thicket]

looks like LE

notice the pre-alpha 0.4.5 watermark in lower right

[west ferry]

yeah didnot see it as steam does not let you zoom in as far as discord

i can see it now that i know its there

i was trying to find a picture of the old idol system was there not the idea floating around that each class had its own idol slot shape?

[west ferry]

just watched rhykker's video on the Kickstarter and its vastly different in a few places but it looks very charming

[grand shoal]

no way

But they are kinda rare. An Obsidian may take you both a few days to drop

[potent hill]

That was supposed to happen ? when I checked my stash in legacy it was empty af and all my characters were COF rank 1

[storm blaze]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1260279433772662854

[desert tree]

The 30%

[wet chasm]

Thanks

[floral finch]

dumb question but does the reset apply to offline characters?

[storm wren]

Yeah, but no influence because it's offline

[sly fable]

What do you mean? Isn't that not true? Don't offline characters also have "Cycle" and "Legacy" same as online characters? And won't they roll into legacy just like online characters?

[sly fable]

Their answer was not accurate, FYI. It will affect offline characters in the same way it affects online characters if you update to the latest version

[surreal verge]

Yes, if you're playing offline cycle.

[oblique canyon]

Last time I played was a few months ago, does the game still have memory leakage? Were there siginificant performance updates?

[twin oak]

there are still significant performance issues in monoliths, particularly large ones
I personally noticed a significant performance improvement from 1.0 though

[oblique canyon]

Yeah I played 1.0 on release, but still not good in performance, especially the memory leakage is a huge problem.

[tame cobalt]

Anybody know if when you change the element of a skill (like surge base damage from lightning to fire), if other nodes on the tree that give % increased lightning damage or added melee lightning damage also get converted?

[storm wren]

oh. Cycle characters in offline mode will be reset and move to legacy too?

[desert tree]

Unless specifically stated, no

[storm wren]

The announcement just say online characters 🤷‍♀️

@humble cargo Do you know what will cycle characters go in offline mode after the reset?

And legacy characters in offline mode don't influence with the reset, right?

[humble cargo]

At this stage, a reset isn't guaranteed. The poll is open to gauge whether players want a reset or not, and if not why not.

Offline characters are entirely separate to any cycles and online mode in general, offline characters won't be part of any resets.

[maiden pilot]

hello there what does Stash Tab Priority System means?

[storm wren]

yeah "Offline characters are entirely separate to any cycles and online mode in general, offline characters won't be part of any resets" is match with my knowledge

[fierce swan]

Should be something akin to poe tabs 1 Being for Idols and 2nd tab for Legendary and LP's and so on. Not 100% sure how or what and layout but something like it. We won't be spending as much time sorting through our stash.

[civic wolf]

Hello Everyone , i got a question , i need a Red Ring so bad , when using RoA , do i need the base (Silver Ring) or can it be any Ring?

[floral finch]

ascendancy rune? if so it doesn't matter as far as i know

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim simulator

[surreal verge]

Any ring, and pray.

[civic wolf]

ill pray since 1.0 , never found this 😄

[storm wren]

@west ferry Ok I find the secret room. Never think I can enter the deep of platform 😅

[pastel prairie]

Nope but it only drops if your in a party

[cedar locust]

We're actively hunting these down so if you notice memory leaks or significant performance drops please submit an In Game Bug Report so that we can get the data from the .log files! It's also helpful to include;

• The Monolith map name (if you remember it)
• The mobs on screen (some mobs cause more issues than others)
• What build or skills you are using
• How long you were playing

[cedar locust]

Well then sounds like you need this! - ✨ Loot Drop Boost ✨ (single use, can be used for 1 (one) item or weapon or armour/gear, results not guaranteed) - good luck! 😊

[shy frost]

I'm a primalist who focus on Health Regen. If i have Maelstorm Violent Squall node, do i get more health regen or faster health regen? Can anyone explain? THanks!

[cedar locust]

'Increased Healing Effectiveness' affects the health restored by healing skills 🙂

[shy frost]

Thank you!

[cedar locust]

You're welcome! When in doubt I use sites like LETools or Tunklabs to look up specific affixes and see what they affect - https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/affix/increased_healing_effectiveness

[haughty cypress]

Did you have a problem with the game? In addition to the game crashing, my character is no longer appearing. Anyone else having this problem?

[cedar locust]

Was this character Online or Offline?

[lost violet]

How do people craft higher tier mods on legendaries?

[merry torrent]

if it's already a legendary you can no longer modify it

[lost violet]

cant upgrade mod tier in legendary?

What about upgrading via unique?

[merry torrent]

not really sure what you mean, but uniques can only be upgraded into legendarys using an exalted item. You can upgrade the exalted item before you try merging them into a unique creating a legendary.

the exalted needs to be upgraded (via crafting) before merging it, after which you can't change anything.

[surreal verge]

You don't.

[cedar locust]

You can also upgrade Uniques by 'egging' them via a Nemesis! If you place a 0LP Unique into a Nemesis and choose to empower it, it can gain LP or gain affixes, turning it into a Legendary!

You don't have any control over what affixes get added though, it's just a chance. So if you want a specific affix, you're best using the Eternity Cache to craft together a Unique with LP and an Exalted item with the affix you want.

[sleek stream]

why are so many arpg players obsessed with "starting fresh" this style of genre loot/grind.. is like the exact opposite of the type of game you would want to start fresh in.. why not play another genre without grind/loot boxes.. if you constantly want new/fresh since those types of games are literally based around quick matches and not having to grind/level/gear??

most of these arpgs roots come from D&D and that game was historically known for people playing the same character for YEARS some times

[surreal verge]

Some want to grind when there's new stuff added so they don't have to finagle with old stuff.

Otherwise some cases there's no reason to interact with the new stuff if it won't help their old chars.

[sleek stream]

but why force the entire server to reset so that person can do that..

if they want to start a new character from level 1.. they can but why force the whole server to reset

[surreal verge]

Because there's a lot more people for that than you think.

If you don't want to be resetted, just play legacy, content is exactly the same anyway.
Seasons/cycles have always been made with people who like to reset in mind.

[sleek stream]

i would argue most people only play legacy because they want to play with other people and are forced to follow wwhere they go

only play season

[native sail]

You would argue wrong because there's plenty of data over the past 20+ years of people moving to the seasonal reset because they prefer it

[sleek stream]

also there is no online "legacy" so if u want to play with others u are forced to play seasons

[native sail]

There literally is online legacy

[surreal verge]

Errr no? Most of the current players are cycle players.

[sleek stream]

again the problem is no one plays it, they follow where the bulk of people go,. they want the interaction more then the reset

[merry torrent]

We can argue back and forth, but all you have to do is look up steam charts for Path of exile and see the pattern (https://steamcharts.com/app/238960) Every spike is a new update and league. Devs make the most money when they have the most players.

[surreal verge]

No? As far as we know like a VERY big chunk of the players currently play cycle.

Also, online legacy exists, idk if you ever tried.

(And to be fair, ARPGs are mostly solo games, unless with friends.)

[sleek stream]

i was mistaken, you cant "create" a legacy online you have to create a cycle charcter and let it rotate to legacy

[surreal verge]

No, you can create a fresh "legacy" char.

If you actually read the char creation window you can choose between creating a cycle or legacy char.

[native sail]

Factually incorrect. I know at least two people who have made multiple online legacy characters.

[sleek stream]

doesnt matter. the fact is legacy is dead and you cant play with others

you have to play seasons if you want interaction

[surreal verge]

You can, you just gotta pick your people.

What? You want matchmaking? (It doesn't exist)

Also, as far as I know the market is still alive in legacy, just screwed by the 1.0 gold dupe.

[cedar locust]

Cycle resets affect the Market and Ladders, so players wanting to start on equal footing have that option. Also while we don't have any right now, should we introduce Cycle specific content that will be in play too.

Legacy offers players who don't want to compete in Ladders or use a fresh Market the opportunity to keep playing older characters and keep playing with friends there too. You can also make new Legacy Characters whenever you like!

If you're looking for people to play in Legacy with, we have both #👥┃lfg and #💽┃server-share 🙂

[sleek stream]

but why even play a game with a "market" then? just go play a genre without all the grinding/economy/etc

[surreal verge]

Because they don't want items that are hyper inflated in cost.

[sleek stream]

it makes no sense to play this genre if you want constant freshness. this genre is the perfect genre to WANT to not start fresh

[surreal verge]

And what if they add a new mechanic that won't help any late-game players but help people to reach late-game?

[sleek stream]

this genre shouldnt have trading/selling at all anyway. the entire point of this genre is to FIND items

[cedar locust]

We got a LOT of feedback asking for a Market/Trading and for a long time the team said not now but they'll look into it. Then we introduced Item Factions, so players who wanted Trade could and players that had no interest also had an option

[surreal verge]

ANd honestly, Grim Dawn exists.

[merry torrent]

because people (me) like fresh starts, with new mechanics, and new builds. I get bored with the same character, and the same old game.

[sleek stream]

then why not play shooters or fighting games or mobos.. you clearly want constant change

[merry torrent]

Watch this video, you might find it informative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM_5S55jUzk

[native sail]

Brother, people have been trading and wanting refreshes in this genre since the BEGINNING of the genre

[surreal verge]

Because they want an ARPG?

[sleek stream]

so play zelda

[surreal verge]

If you want one that doesn't constantly reset, Grim Dawn and Lost Ark exists.

[surreal verge]

Zelda doesn't have skill customization.

[sleek stream]

then play league of legends.

if u constyantly start from scratch and regear.. thats literally league

[surreal verge]

That's a MOBA, not an ARPG.

[native sail]

None of those are ARPGs...

[surreal verge]

At least pick games of the same category...

[sleek stream]

i get that im just uising examples

[surreal verge]

That might as well NOT be examples.

[sleek stream]

but u cant say i want to play an arpg because you dont get to say arpgs are specially meant for resets and skill customization.

other genres do use those things

[surreal verge]

Then find them! ARPGs that don't reset currently include:
Grim Dawn
Lost Ark

[sleek stream]

every game is action and every game is role playing

[surreal verge]

Maybe you want to play one of those instead?

[native sail]

Jesus Christ we're getting into the semantics of genre names now

[surreal verge]

Ohoh, Guild Wars 2 might count.

[native sail]

It's the "every game is a CRPG" argument all over again

[sleek stream]

you guys are the ones who took this way off track not me

im just defending myself

[merry torrent]

At the end of the day, the reason is money. This is a live service game (to make money over time) in order to make money they need players coming back to play the game over and over. One way (and the main way) is to create new content and leagues. You may not like it, but it's been proven a 1000 times over between Diablo 2, Diablo 3, Diablo 4, Path of Exile, and another of other ARPG's

[surreal verge]

And I'm giving you alternatives.

Clearly this game isn't for you.

[merry torrent]

and watch that video I posted, it's very insightful

[native sail]

Even Inquisitor Martyr has seasonal restarts and that game has a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase of others

[merry torrent]

Yeah a lot of games are trying to go live service. It's more money then once off games. I'm not a huge fan of it, but for games like ARPG's I've grown accustomed to it. Honestly though, it's given me far more hours then I ever would put into them because of it though.

[misty fox]

Is merchant guild viable for fully offline play?

[native sail]

It doesn't work offline

[misty fox]

Like does the bazaar have preset items?

oh ok

[surreal verge]

It has nothing offline.

[native sail]

I assume they thought about something like that and decided it probably wasn't very useful in comparison to prophecies

[grand shoal]

Arpgs were resetting seasons even before season content was a thing and the word live service game was even invented.

[merry torrent]

true, but the main reason they do that now is for the money. I don't mean it in a negitive way, it's just how things are now.

Recognize the tread, profit off it.

[sly fable]

It probably wasn't a matter of usefulness, it's probably just a matter of scope and design. It is fundamentally a player to player marketplace and they're not gonna try to design a simulation of that system that would be satisfying to players. That's a whole new thing

[storm wren]

Xdddddddd

To people who don't know what happened:

🤔 Ok so I can sure Judd saw the latest work I post on the community, he just don't appear to leave his trace

I don't know what this bug is going on because I don't open any merchant pages for a while

[dusky kite]

tell that to the fans of any real crpg and they'll pi ss on your face, geologist style

[native sail]

I mean, I'm the one saying that genres have meaning, it's other people who have hit me with the "all games are CRPGs" comment before. This is a situation again where someone went "any video game with action is an ARPG"

[fading hound]

I think the issue is that people are very emotional about some expectations they have, and when things end up being outside of that box, that creates frustration, when the beauty of gaming is exactly that, finding fun things that break those boxes.

It is why "everything is an rpg now" because developers eventually found out progression is fun for most players, so adding progression made things more enjoyable in most games / genres.

I do think people go overboard in their expectations of what genres should be, instead of enjoying a game for what it is and moving on when it is not enjoyable for them

[spiral rover]

If I have a character on legacy thats has MG/CoF rank 4 and the reset hits and my cycle characters become legacy, will they get the legacy characters faction rank or will it update with my cycle characters that is higher (rank 12)?

[novel lotus]

new cycle has nothing in it, all your stuff will be pushed to legacy.

[surreal verge]

Legacy will get highest rank

[novel lotus]

I’m waiting for the day to switch to Legacy. I wonder if MG over there will be like in the current cycle or if this faction will be unplayable? I’m old now and no longer care about the ladder or meaningless competitions

[rancid ice]

It's (MG's) active, but definitely not as active as a cycle might be.

[slender crystal]

I have a question on LP. does corruption increase LP chance? Or just drop rate

[desert tree]

Both
But Lp chance increase is very small

[slender crystal]

Does LP chance also increase for prophecies?

[desert tree]

I am not certain on this one. So I won't answer. Maybe if you use the search fonction inside #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs Pretty sure it's been asked before

[crystal jackal]

100 corruption increases LP chance by 5% if I remmener correctly, 300 by 10% and 500 by 14%, so it's a relatively small bonus...
I think I watched a frozenSentinel video recently where he tested this with 1M favor, and I think he concluded that prophecies are affected as well

but I can't swear it.

[slender crystal]

thank you for info. I'll just run it at 300 then

just in case

Another note, the prophecies that say (1 LP) does that mean they drop with exactly 1 LP or at least 1? And is it a good prophecy given the cost?

[twin oak]

yes, Mike confirmed it, but it is a small increment

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[grand shoal]

They are horrible, not worth the cost

[slender crystal]

ok thanks!

I've never used one but keep wondering, maybe....

[frank delta]

Hey guys. I'm new to ARPGs and decided to start with LE which was what attracted me the most.
I'm building a fire spellblade at first. I was able to understand how I increase my damage, using the tags of the skills I chose. But I still have some questions and I hope you can help me.

1. I find 2 items with the same affix (fire damage T2 affixes for example). Can the percentage of damage or amount of damage be different between these items or since both are T2, will they be exactly the same?
2. When searching for my items or crafting them. How is it recommended to divide defensive and offensive affixes? Full offensive weapons and accessories and full defensive armor?
3. Regarding resistances, do I look for them through affixes on items or do I leave them to idols?
4. If I break a T5 affix, for example, when adding it to another item, will it go straight to T5?
   I'm trying not to follow guides regarding the build, I want to build it myself, but at the moment it's these doubts that are confusing me.

[twin oak]

1. Usually the more specific an affix is the higher its damage. You can see their values in lastepochtools.com for example in the planner
2. It's up to you. You decide how much offensive or tanky you want your character to be and there is no benefit from going full offensive or defensive in each item individually, only the total picture matters, but I find it easier to change gear if I mix them a bit
3. It depends on the build. Usually it is easier to get some from passives and armour (implicits can also work well there) and use idols to make up for a bit you are missing as you change gear. The cap is 75% by the way, but there are some items, passives and skills that provide a bonus for going over it.
4. No. If you break a T5 affix with a rune of removal you get 5 shards of that affix for later crafting and that's it.

[thick seal]

hihi, has the double evade bug been fixed?

[ripe ravine]

Hey is anyone able to smash t4 temporal sanctum and like to give me a hand please? I'm on NA, ingame name: Nynfo

[tranquil flicker]

#👥┃lfg would be a good place to check

[ripe ravine]

ah ty!

[dusty jetty]

Guys, how do you upload your builds here? I feeld kinda stuck with mine, and i have no idea on what should i focus now 😦

[desert tree]

Lastepochtools.com/planner

[desert tree]

I have never seen these numbers
Where do you get them from?

[crystal jackal]

1,0 patchnotes if I remember correctly

[dusty jetty]

If someone have few mins it will be cool to look at this ❤️
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qkl4zWdB
i'm trying to push corruption a little, but i feel 2 sqishy on 200 corruption.
What should i change?
And Scales of Eterra annoys me with with passive to debuff my dmg for 10 s :/

[neon compass]

Sorcerer, Level 91

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (61) / Runemaster (23)

General:

▸ Health: 892, Regen: 18.74/s
▸ Mana: 777.72, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 337%, Regen: 88/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 88 Int / 17 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 110% / 101% / 77% / 85% / 90% / 96%
▸ EHP: 1,188 / 1,188 / 1,188 / 1,317 / 1,188 / 1,188 / 1,188

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 178
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (63)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,105)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 17% (153)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Glacier (21)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Ice Barrage (21)
• Frost Wall (21)
• Arcane Ascendance (20)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Unstable Core
• Scales of Eterra
• Transient Rest

[crystal jackal]

yeah, found it, 1.0 patch notes...here's the full text:
Average legendary potential and weaver’s will now also scale up slightly with corruption. For example, Uniques have around a 5% higher chance for 1+ LP at 100 corruption, 10% at 300 corruption, and 14% at 600 corruption.

[desert tree]

Oh, too slow ^^

I didn't remember this

[desert tree]

How much Ward are you generating/sustaining?
You seems to be doing Cold Skill, but you are using a Cold/XXX Scale of Eterra. Bad idea

[dusty jetty]

Around 1500-4000 max
XXX means no LP? I'm using build from maxroll and now i'm thinking about this item. It gives me 21 int nad 6 spell crit, so it boost my crit chance perfectly, but this passives is killing my boss fights or smooth clear in maps.

[desert tree]

XXX is the other element in your case Lightning (I believe)

With scale is 50% of the dmg you deal more and more dmg, and 50% of the time you deal 20% of your dmg

Take a non Cold Scale so you are not affected

[dusty jetty]

Ooooh now i see. i didnt know there is version of this item with fire/lighting. This will change a lot!

i was trying to farm Abomination, for his betl, but on 100 corruption it feels like pain. It's easy to get him and kill, but there is a low chance for his belt. So right now im farming gran armor blessing to take care of my armor

[desert tree]

For more input I would try in #🧙┃mage because I don't really play Mages so I might not have the best advices

[dusty jetty]

thx for your time and advices ❤️

[torn sierra]

Your biggest priority is also finding gear with more mana on it. Once you have at least 1000 mana, the build feels a lot better. It scales both your DPS and ward generation

[dusty jetty]

Okey, i will check what needs to be changed asap

[tame cobalt]

is stat scaling multiplicative with increased elemental damage or is it same bucket?

[faint cape]

If attribute scaling says it grants increased damage per point, it's in the same bucket as all your other increased damage. If it's something different like +1 damage per attribute, then it's a different bucket.

[tame cobalt]

i see, thanks. thats not nearly as strong as i thought it was then to get a ton of attributes

[nocturne yew]

do we know if subclasses with one less skill will eventually get another or if theyre just designed to have 4?

[toxic echo]

They will get more at some point.

[nocturne yew]

Thanks 🙂

[lost violet]

Guys can I buy a gear from MG and use it on my alt who is on the COF faction?

Or does the alt need to be in MG to use the gear as well?

[faint cape]

No, you must be in MG to equip items bought through MG (and likewise, need to be in CF to use items gained through CF drop bonuses)

[lost violet]

Thank you

[velvet agate]

i wonder what the rsg is for 3 stats t6? 👀

[maiden pilot]

if i right remember at release we could join second char to faction at low lvl in act 1 now its fixed?

[floral finch]

is there any reason to play online? i don't have friends nor do i care about leader boards and i play cof

[maiden pilot]

nope

im playing offline since start 1.0

[floral finch]

ok cool ty

[maiden pilot]

also in LE no reason to play league, u can play std always

[quartz hornet]

Hi, is there a new season The 19th Of september? Or its just an event?

[storm blaze]

A cycle reset + event
but the reset might not happen, they had a poll and will post news on friday with info

[merry sand]

i wana create a loot filter to sell items for gold, can someone explain me what for credentials i need to set to get the best price items ?

[surreal verge]

Affixes people want on bases they want, uniques with good rolls and/or lp, and a myriad of other factors

[merry sand]

i dont wana sell it on market to other people i wana sell it on merchant 😄

[icy drift]

Don't make a filter for that

[merry sand]

why?

[icy drift]

Merchants barely give any gold at all, you're not meant to pick items up specifically to sell to them

You lose gold spending the time to pick the item up pretty much

[merry sand]

mhh

[twin oak]

unless they meant Merchant's Guild

[west ferry]

the only things to sell to the npc's are set items and uniques they go for 250-2850

[surreal verge]

You mean npc merchants? Then no, do not.
An full inventory of non-uniques are worth less than 150gold on the floor

[merry sand]

correct

[surreal verge]

Just get gold nodes in monoliths. The “best” selling items are uniques which would sell for 250 each, which is also basically not much but is a way to throw away uniques you dont want

[merry sand]

alright thanks for advice 🙂

[storm wren]

Which minions can do damage over time...?

[fierce swan]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/kaykudos-dot-ice-totem-shaman

[neon compass]

KayKudo's DoT Ice Totem Shaman Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Release / 1.0.3

Class

Primalist / Shaman

Used skills

• Summon Thorn Totem
• Summon Spriggan
• Summon Storm Totem
• Spriggan Form
• Eterra's Blessing

Used unique items

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Apogee of Frozen Light
• Ravens' Rise
• Eterra's Path
• Hollow Finger
• Silvafrond
• Tears of the Forest
• Stormcarved Testament

Tags

Monolith Farmer / Minions / DoT

Created by KayKudo · Mar 24, 2024, 1:28 AM

[storm wren]

This build not relevant to minion damage over time though

🤔 Oh double 2lp frozen light in my stash so I wonder what that special affix can do more

[spare sierra]

Yo all,which is better-cirle of fortune or merchant guild ?

[fierce swan]

You can make some heavy dps build only prob with dual wielding is the defences, if your ok with being more squishy for all the extra dps then why not 🙂

[storm wren]

I mean I has no idea on how to use that affix Nemesis gave me

are you mean this affix or this sword can apply on Ice totem shaman

[fierce swan]

Ice totem will have cold tag like sword

But

https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/item=UAzBsCYE5yA here take your pick.

[storm wren]

Oh so no build needs this affix

😵 Confused about which build needs damage over time for minions...

[fierce swan]

Most Apogee is flat out damage and +3 to min cold skills.

Not seen or had an apogee with Damage over time added to it xD

[fierce swan]

Something like this https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/YQWWyZEQ

[neon compass]

Beastmaster, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0

Class:

Primalist (26) / Beastmaster (71) / Shaman (5) / Druid (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,703, Regen: 38/s
▸ Mana: 121, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 62 Str / 3 Dex / 10 Int / 8 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 80% / 83% / 103% / 63% / 81% / 56%
▸ EHP: 2,978 / 2,978 / 2,978 / 3,621 / 2,659 / 2,978 / 2,503

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 351
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (100)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,302)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 38%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Swipe (20)
• Summon Wolf (28)
• Fury Leap (20)
• Summon Frenzy Totem (20)
• Warcry (20)

Used unique items:

• Herald of the Scurry
• Apogee of Frozen Light
• Apogee of Frozen Light
• Ribbons of Blood
• Death Rattle

[fierce swan]

Could get + 9 or even 10 to Wolfs / Squirrels

Last Squirrels build i did was bleed and it was so fun.

[grand shoal]

Any mionion builds that use dots 🙂

Scorpion just to mention one among quite some options

[ancient rose]

Hi,

Could anyone explain the differences between cycle and legacy?

If there's only the Fact, that there are no leaderboards and some bosses a couple of weeks later, i don't see the benefits of the cycle, because I cannot transfer the loot to the cycle boxes.

So I'm thinking about making the next character as a legacy character. In this case I don't lose the loot after the cycle.

Or am I understanding it wrongly?

[surreal verge]

No differences aside for the leaderboard and different markets if you’re MG

[upbeat imp]

Oh so the reason why you recommend a few primalist builds is this is a weapon for cold minion damage and minion dot is common in beastmaster builds?

Checked out your beast master build in 1.0 and I don't find any nodes relevant to minion dot...

I know minion damage only

[bleak wren]

is there a salvage system in this game? what do you do with blue items

[upbeat imp]

Oh check out the skill list, only assemble abomination (necromancer), aerial assault (falconer), swarmblade form (druid) and glyph of dominion (runemaster) can apply this affix on, so this affix is a bit no sense indeed

[surreal verge]

Forging> Rune of Shattering, to get the affixes.

[grand shoal]

Usually just filter them out after lvl 10 or so.
Rare case you want to see one would be if you hunt for specific Affixes

[upbeat imp]

And combine with this T6 affix on frozen light, more useless

[grand shoal]

The affix itself has still plenty use cases

[upbeat imp]

It maybe useful on unique items which these masteries needs but no sense on frozen light

[grand shoal]

Yeah sure, that may be the case

[upbeat imp]

My meaning is I want to check out any possible builds this legendary weapon maybe can go

[bleak wren]

thank you! does that mean its useless hoarding loot early levels?

[grand shoal]

yes!

[surreal verge]

Well, don't pick up anything you won't use or need.

Even selling them to NPCs is bad in terms of effectiveness.

[upbeat imp]

But it's a good way to gain first barrel of golds

[bleak wren]

makes sense thanks guys 🙂

[grand shoal]

No just what Kzb says^^

[frigid trench]

What will happen to the unredeemed gold sales from MG going to legacy?

[novel lotus]

received at MG legacy

[split laurel]

Is Black Hole known to be broken already? All the nodes that increase duration do nothing

[surreal verge]

Did you accidentally took the "Duration is halved" node or something.

[split laurel]

Nah, that was my first thought as well. went a respecced and timed it with each mod to duration and none of them did a dang thing.

[surreal verge]

I got no clue then.

[split laurel]

in fact the +80% node actually decreases it slightly

[quasi gyro]

why didnt i unlock forgotten knights, after finishing my last normal mono/killing first harb

no quest

[candid elm]

If you push Y, can you access the faction?

[quasi gyro]

i can

but lvl 0, zero harb kills

i even droped eye but no quest trigger

i just saw some guy posted in bug section, so I guess its a thing now 😄

but he thought its cause he didnt drop eye

idk if it has something to do with campaign skipping, on my first char everything worked fine, i did do full campaign, now i made solo char found, and i did normal monos after doing my last quests for passives and idols in heoborea

then when i found temporal sanctum key in monos i went through dungeon to finish campaign for attributes reward

[merry torrent]

did you kill the last boss in campaign?

[quasi gyro]

ye

i do have some main quest in my log tho

thats active

cause of campaign skip

[merry torrent]

I'd be surprised if that was it. It seems like most of the quests don't feed into each other.

need to kill your first harb to activate it

[cedar locust]

If your faction progress was reset to 0 before the 1.1.6 patch - try going back and defeating the Bosses of the level 90 Normal Monoliths

[quasi gyro]

no, this is my 2nd char, everything was fine on first one, this one is solo char found, fresh, first time in normal monos

anyway i see there is bug reports on forum

im not only one

[cedar locust]

Can you link that post to me here?

[quasi gyro]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/first-harbingers-in-legacy-doesnt-count/73644

you posted in there 😄

i wonder if its specific timeline, cause i did ruin as my last, same as guy who posted video

[cedar locust]

Oh, perfect! Didn't know if it was a different thread, it's always good to check 😁

[quasi gyro]

or is it related to solo char found, cause he is also solo char found

[cedar locust]

I'm not sure but I'll throw that thread at the team, if you want to post in there too!

[timid juniper]

Is there something I can do about the game hiccup'ing whenever I start a beacon or aggro a timeline boss? Whenever Misshapen ecko boss does an ambush, my game freezes and then I'm dead whenever it comes back. RTX 4080 Super, 32GB DDR ram, Ryzen 9 3900XT CPU, game is on a fast SSD. I've lowered the settings all the way down, it still happens.

[twin oak]

unfortunately no, they are working on it, but if you make an in game bug report you attach your data, which helps them to fix these issues

[timid juniper]

I'll do that, thanks

[fierce swan]

If using scurry dot will come from bleed and squirrels do a lot of bleed and cold node will give them cold tag for the + skills and there is gear that can make minions bleed chance higher and last longer.

On top of increasing there damage with the totem or there is a critical version of the build.

[storm wren]

Today's progress:

[west ferry]

@storm wren your lucky you dont loose xp when you die otherwise id doutbt id ever get to 93-95

[dusty jetty]

Guys, is this prophecy buged? i Killed tons of void horrors in maps with reveals nearby monoliths and this doesnt count?

[desert tree]

The Void Horrors from the Beacon dont count

[hidden trellis]

The void horrors from the end of monoliths do not count towards that prophecy

[dusty jetty]

Okey 😦

so its hard to find them, huh

[faint cape]

You need to run in one of the three void-themed monoliths for them to have a chance of appearing in your echoes. If you see one in an echo, that means they are in that echo's spawn pool, so it might be worthwhile to clear out more of that echo. I also think some of the "optional quest echoes" have guaranteed void horror spawns.

[idle wave]

Hey everyone, my friend finished normal monos for the first time ever and I was with them on my alt who I exclusively played with them and we got our first harbinger but my friend didn't get a quest and can't progress with the whole forgotten knight quest. They can access empowered timelines and we even did a second harbinger but no quest. Anyone know why or how we can fix this?

We tried having them restart the game and go solo in case my presence was a problem already

[hidden trellis]

Who was the host of the party?

[idle wave]

The first time I was. We tried again and my friend was.

Well assuming you can control host by making my friend party leader and having my friend load into the monolith first

I'm not 100% sure if that is accurate

The first time my alt that I only played with them was party leader but my friend was the only one to select echoes at the floating blue diamond thing. Does the floating blue thing have an official name?

Also my alt was the first one to load into the monolith. We had been progressing the quests in lockstep, verbally confirming progress each time it changed

Is there a sure fire way of making someone host we can try?

[lofty terrace]

How does Damage reduction work in LE, is it addative or multiplicative?

[hidden trellis]

I actually do not know if there is an official name for it haha, but the surefire way to make someone host would be for your friend to invite you to their session and go from there

[desert tree]

99% of the Dmg reduction sources are Multiplicative

Otherwise you would reach 100% Dmg Reduction very easily

[lofty terrace]

For example, beastmaster primalist gets access to three sources of damage reduction, 30% from upgraded boar, 16% from close enemies and 20% at low health

Granted, two of those are conditional ones

Wait, one is damage taken, not damage reduction

[desert tree]

Still Multiplicative everywhere

[rigid totem]

was trying to help a player ingame and everthing looks like his quest progression in his first endgame timeline "fall of the outcast" is locked in a weird way. have you guys heard about something like that happening in recent times?

he is at ~200 stability with the first quest echo done and 2nd + 3rd quest echo are "blocked" - atleast thats what he told me

[lofty terrace]

Cheers pvt, time to do some digging in how it's calculated then and what order it's multiplicative

Blocked should means he doesn't have the progress for them no?

[rigid totem]

yes - from what i know that means either "not enough stability" or "not done quest echo(s) before"

[twin oak]

try playing with this https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ehp

[lofty terrace]

Exactly, so he needs to do more maps for progress

[icy drift]

Multiplication is transitive so it doesn't matter what order you do it in

[desert tree]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ehp

Oh too slow

[rigid totem]

thats why i said .. he is at ~200 stability

none of those 2 conditions should apply to him - the second quest needs 160 stablity in that case to unlock

[icy drift]

Mmmm maybe he's not completing the quest echo properly? Hard not to but I can't really think of anything else, haven't heard of a bug like this personally

I think a while back there was a bug that wouldn't unlock the next timeline after you killed the timeline boss in fall of the outcast but that's completely different from this

And it was fixed

[rigid totem]

i also assumed human error or lack of understanding for the longest time - but checked everything i knew about and couldnt make sense of the situation

first echo quest allegedly is marked finished not allowing him to redo it - but further one is blocked

[faint cape]

This person probably needs to post a screenshot

[icy drift]

Yea

From their description it should just be working, or they discovered a new bug which is fairly unlikely since this would be something that would prevent people from progressing and bugs like that get reported pretty heavily (unless it's really hard to trigger or something I guess)

[rigid totem]

ye aight - thanks. said to just come here with this if the problem persists.

oh.. ohne more thing since we hit the topic screenshots and you might have heard: have the flaws in the bug reports > attach screenshot feature regarding this been reported? because this issue is one of those, where you could not attach the proper screenshot to a bug report because of how its implemented (hitting escape to access the bug report feature would close the monolith map).

[hidden trellis]

Yep the team is aware of this!

[split laurel]

This may be dumb, but where the heck do i find the combat dummy to test stuff on?

[hidden trellis]

Right outside the arena

[split laurel]

Gracias

[warm grove]

So I really enjoy playing LE not only for the content but also for the developers/community. Both are truly wonderful-but I have had a hard time reaching end game. My wife and I reached lvl 40 and she wanted to take a break. Since then i've struggled getting through parts of the campaign again. I was trying to play a Falconer but I usually struggle gaining levels. Besides that i've tried to go down the Mage route but once again I get sort of bored with it. I really enjoy my higher leveled character but i'm not sure how else I can level up and do things besides the main questline. Any suggestions for this or do I just need to deal with it and push through?

[toxic echo]

There really isnt a way to level besides doing campaign until you can handle monoliths.

[surreal verge]

Except just ignoring it and head straight to monoliths, not really. (Monoliths unlock as soon as you get your mastery)

[red lintel]

Hey guys does flip a coin work with blade shield in shuriken three?

[surreal verge]

It probably should? Most Blade shield uses don't come from direct casting though.

[indigo parcel]

Ahh this was the exact topic i was going to ask about! I was wondering about having to cast is all the time.
From where would the trigger come from?

[storm wren]

🙃 Come on, Nemesis, why not more mana? Have to go on farming unstable core because this best one is wasted...

[surreal verge]

Shift

[maiden pilot]

is it normal?)

[indigo parcel]

Ahh so its after every shift. And then for 3 seconds. Roger that.

[surreal verge]

Do you have another monolith that has 80+ corruption difference or 8 gazes?

[maiden pilot]

its empowered

i just wonder i have never seen that before shade of orobyss in 2nd echo

[cold basin]

That is normal. Like Kzb said is some of your other empowered monoliths has higher corruption there is a catch up mechanic to spawn shade of orobyss after completing one echo

[velvet agate]

it has been fixed, when you lower the corr then when the map refreshes it will have one appear nearby for you to return to the starting point if you want, just 1 time

[urban fossil]

it's kinda new feature for faster pushing when you have too much gazes

[surreal verge]

What?

[velvet agate]

haha, whats you mean "what"?

[surreal verge]

What are you talking about? That's intended.

[velvet agate]

i mean this boss map spawns near when you refresh by reducing corruption, meaning it gives you a chance to return to the original corruption point

[surreal verge]

No, that's a different node.

[velvet agate]

so that's it, i was wrong, my bad

[surreal verge]

The drop corruption thing is this.

[velvet agate]

coincidentally when i reduced corruption, i thought it appeared there for me to return to corruption before reducing

[crystal jackal]

why does the tunklab ehp calc say I can survive a 6179 fire 1-shot...but I die to a 3379 dmg with a 192 overkill?
was at full HP and there was nothing else dmging me, was fighting a harbinger and got hit by a "dodge this"-lance because I started an animation just before she did it.

[surreal verge]

Was it a two-part attack?

[crystal jackal]

I don't know, looks like one on the animation....you know the female harbinger?
she says "dodge this" and does a fire attack infront and behind her with her lance

[surreal verge]

Ash?

[crystal jackal]

is that the name of an attack or of the harbinger or something else?

[surreal verge]

The harbinger.

Alternatively: WHich monolith?

[keen jacinth]

Hello new player here, can anyone suggest me fast builds with 1 button playstyle?

[crystal jackal]

lagon one, but it was the regular attack all female harbingers have.

[surreal verge]

There's a few attacks that are two hits.
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/AgileHarbinger-Lagon

(Also, idk why you mention fire one shot when most melees are physical)

[crystal jackal]

this one: https://snipboard.io/Xpgr6D.jpg
do you know what it's called in that database you linked?

[surreal verge]

Probably one of the dashes.

[crystal jackal]

she says "dodge this", places out red lines that move after you a bit, and then does a red beam....

[surreal verge]

Oh, it's the beam then

...

Oh I see the issue.

[crystal jackal]

so that 1 visual beam is actually 2 beams + 2 melee attacks?

[surreal verge]

Probably.

[crystal jackal]

so much for visual clarity...I'm half way across the screen and get hit by a melee attack 😅

[deep briar]

new.,,wheel of luck,, faction
introduction of mechanics from the dungeon, but completely expanded
it is about a vault in the dungeon, where gold is exchanged for a random item or the mechanics are to be more extensive than loot filter. loot filter cannot mark any unique item this mechanic allows it. item elevated, experimental unique or other if you want to draw specific items that interest you pay a specific price the rarer the item the more expensive, but the rarer the item the lower the chance of getting it. possibility of drawing an item. possibility of a specific unique or addition even experimental t7 costs more reputation. you can only look for one affix on each level
the mechanics are supposed to be like gambling, you are never sure that you will win

the affix level is random

red altaria ring greater order of drops in percentages from most frequently to least frequently lp1 -lp0 lp2- lp3 for items with lp3 max
lp1 lp2 -lp0 lp3 lp4 with max lp4
lp0 is intentionally given in the middle by the nemesis mechanics

a faction available immediately after reaching the endgame

instead of gold there can be another currency in 4 types, 3 of which are common, and one very rare has a special place in the inventory just for it, you automatically get it in your inventory for killing each opponent, the rarer the opponent, the better or more you can get

the fourth type is obtained after killing linear bosses of time orobyss and new bosses from update 1.1, from monoliths from 0 corruption is just a storage of this currency, if you want to fully use the faction feature you need to unlock the timeline empower

what do you think about this faction?

[surreal verge]

#1210282176680169562

Also, did you forget that Lightless arbor exists?

[deep briar]

Yes

[surreal verge]

Yeah, the vault there does the exact same thing you just said, gambling for items (And crafting mats!)

[deep briar]

the difference is that you can choose any item in the vault it is limited only to the type of item

[surreal verge]

Then it's worse unless it show good uniques/good exalteds, when lightless can get you MUCHMUCH more of them.
6 uniques in one run? Possible!

[deep briar]

it wouldn't be like this if the drop was low

what is written there the rarer
the item the rare items

[surreal verge]

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Do you mean it's easier to get rare items from it?

[deep briar]

this faction increases the luck of items dropped either in dungeons or normal missions not much

[surreal verge]

Sir and or madam we call that CoF.

[deep briar]

Yes

[surreal verge]

Unless the rates are super high I don't think it'll be used much since you can just, hard rush more drops.

[deep briar]

you have to balance it

[surreal verge]

How? If the rate is too low no one's going to use it, if the rate is too high it will be the only thing used.

[deep briar]

the rate will be adjusted by rune

daily usage limit increased by faction

[surreal verge]

Lmao daily cap.

That doesn't really do anything.

[deep briar]

in this last few levels you hit for a few weeks increases the number of draws. rarity of dropping

[storm blaze]

Daily caps on stuff is not a good idea

[deep briar]

if the number of draws doesn't give anything then introduce rare runes as I wrote there each rune will be able to draw a different type of item. 4 is universal and gives much more than the others higher drop rate

[surreal verge]

You're just adding like 4 layers of RNG when one can just farm generic drops like in lightless instead.

Why overcomplicate things? This isn't Lost Ark.

[deep briar]

there would have to be a 35% drop for completing a monolith or a dungeon, a maximum of 55%

every two three monoliths as have one

[storm blaze]

maybe you could write these in #1210282176680169562

[desert tree]

Eeww

Daily Limit

[storm blaze]

Yeah
Daily limits only serve to punish some players
While not affecting others at all

[next void]

Is there anybody who can help kill heorot 500 couruption?

[astral sail]

What are some good low apm build options?

[wicked plover]

anything warpath or minions

[crystal jackal]

I've "cleared" the game on this build(it's not an OP build though):
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/skeletal-roid-mage-necromancer-guide

and for like 95% of the time you can just walk around and cast 1 skill every ~20 sec.

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/AgileHarbinger-Lagon
the "Added Damage Scaling", what added dmg is this referring to? the corruption scaling dmg? e.g. "enemies have 824% more health and damage" or something else?

[astral sail]

OK thanks I'll give minions a shot

[desert tree]

Its smth else. If they had Added Spell Dmg (like you get on a wand/staff/sceptre) it would go through that Dmg Effectiveness.
Its mostly a formatting skill. Its the same format as your skills

[crystal jackal]

ok, so i don't need to care about when calculating the actual dmg, right? since they can't equip items...
and i only need to care about the "scales with" field and generic dmg increases from the echo, correct?

[desert tree]

Correct

[storm wren]

Why I feel this node don't be active... Before and after is the same because this is a white icon

[desert tree]

Are you getting Mana per Point?
Are you getting Ward per Mana Spent when you have 3 pts ?

[slender crystal]

Hi everyone, first time fighting Abberoth. I feel pretty good about his mechanics until the second phase. There are 4 zones of the arena and I can tell what 2 of them do (lighning storm and Lagon waves) but I'm not sure what the other 2 are. I died to a his purple slam while in the sand storm so I think it does armor shred?

[soft arrow]

Hey guys i got a Bug . My forge looks like a treasure chest and i cant use him in every Town any ppl who seen this too?

Looks like this.

[crystal jackal]

ok, so I stood there and ate a full Lagon crab slam for science....
4048 phys dmg, 1047 overkill dmg.....non crit, yes I was full health...was even leeching on full hp. I a HoA marksmen, and I wasn't moving....
I've cleared all modifiers except basic corruption.....824% more dmg.

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/LagonBossMonolith
he has 2 phys attacks, I assume the big slam is the one that deals more dmg.
that's 350 * 9,24 * 1,2 (assuming max hit 20% span) = 3880,8...this doesn't line up with the "death recap"-dmg message?!?!?1

full ehp calc screenshot: https://snipboard.io/MVsZ81.jpg
says I can survive 5337
even if remove everything except amor and res, I still can surive 4113 dmg 1.shot.

I don't understand what's going on here. is the tunklab eph calc wrong? i think it's doing hp / (1-armor mitigation) * extra dmg from missing 75% res.

am I calculating the boss dmg incorrectly? I'm trying to understand why I'm getting 1-shot when the math says I shouldn't.

[storm wren]

Sorry I don't sure what are you talking...

[small bear]

where is the pool results

[storm blaze]

You can always press F to open the forge

[soft arrow]

Oh lol thanks 🙂

[storm blaze]

It actually states that when you first encounter a forge in the game
a little bit before you get to pick your mastery

[cedar locust]

That damn chest... You can also try verifying your game files to see if that helps!

[soft arrow]

Okay, is the Forge with F on keyboard exactly the same thing or ?

[surreal verge]

Yes

[soft arrow]

kk then it doesnt matter 🙂

Any German Players are here ?

[cedar locust]

So you can use F to open the Forge anywhere, so this bug isn't really a blocker.

Verifying your game files is done through Steam, it just checks all the files are downloaded correctly and installed in the right place - it usually fixes some of the smaller weird bugs like this!

[soft arrow]

Okay thank u very much bud 🙂 !

[storm wren]

Own 17 rings with exalted intelligence, only 3 rings with T7 intelligence and single one is full roll 🤭 Filtered lots of exalted rings

The most ring type with intelligence I get is copper ring but I want T7 intelligence ivory rings, just zero

[novel lotus]

Loot Lizards like monkey d3?

[storm wren]

hah I'm attracted by that immediately. Want to ask what loot lizards means in game...Like a thief who can give you loots but they'll escape if you don't take any actions on them for a while or they meet a enemy?

[toxic echo]

literally just loot goblins from diablo

kill them for loots, or watch them escape

[cedar locust]

You don't kill them, you're cutting the baggage straps off so they can be free!

[toxic echo]

nah, imma make some new accessories

[storm wren]

How to hire them?

[cedar locust]

Well the problem was they didn't do their job and just wandered off, now you got to find them and cut the straps to get your loot!

[storm wren]

They supposed to appear by summoning from shrines or just spawn randomly then they'll running away with a few loots, if you don't mind them, they'll escape and if you try to kill them, you can get loots they're carrying after run out of their health?

[cedar locust]

Yep!

[storm wren]

🤔 I don't get what stash tab priority can do actually...I'll need to check out

I want to know the answer too 🤔

[dire imp]

Have the devs ever made it so you can read the whole text of a dialogue in one go, instead of waiting a minute for it to scroll? I've been holding off because I can't get into the story easily with the way dialogue works at the moment

[cedar locust]

So you can set rules for each Stash tab and then when you Shift+Right Click items in your inventory while the Stash is open, the item will go to the Tab where it match the rules!

[faint cape]

They probably feel that way because they just like playing Cycle, I don't think there's much EHG can do to alleviate the feeling tbh, it's basically just the feeling people get as a result of combining all the other poll response options

[spare sierra]

Guys how much health is good to have fir lv 77?(Smite pala build)

[faint cape]

1-2k roughly, as long as you aren't dying much you're fine. If you're playing HC though that's a different story.

[storm wren]

So the new tab system is for avoiding the process that you need to click the corresponding tab from the tab list then you move your items from inventory to stash?

[faint cape]

Yeah, it's like PoE's stash tab affinity, if you're familiar with that, but offers you more control over the settings

[cedar locust]

Yep, just set up your preferred rules for sorting gear and then you can use Shift+Right Click to send them to the right tab!

If an item doesn't match any rules, it will go into the open tab

[storm wren]

Never learn POE 🤷‍♀️

[faint cape]

Then Ave explains it well 😁

[storm wren]

what's open tab?

[toxic echo]

the tab that is literally open on your screen

[storm wren]

🤔 Ok then it'll a nice feature to be applied often.
I always need to find where my exalted rings tab is then switch the page to it for placing my rings. I'll not need to find where a tab is on my tab list anymore

I'm not sure this system can compatible with Chinese tags though

[faint cape]

Yeah, exactly. The idea is you set up a tab for your keys, a tab for exalted rings, a tab for whatever, and then you can quick dump your whole inventory into your stash and it all goes where you set it to go.

It's set up with checkboxes and dropdown menus, your language setting shouldn't matter

(unless EHG forgot to add localizations to the UI, which would make it hard to use, but I'm sure they did that 😅 )

[surreal verge]

Please it'll be hilarious.

[storm wren]

I'm not sure what will the new feature influence with current tab layout and quick view... 😅

[faint cape]

It's not on either of those UI panels, it's on the tab edit panel where you set the name/color/icon for that specific stash tab

[storm wren]

🙏 I see finally...Ohhh for single tab only, ok

[faint cape]

The tab priority is all the stuff on the bottom half

[faint cape]

you set it on each tab individually, but you can set rules on every tab

[storm wren]

then a new question is pop out because I own multiple same tabs indeed (For placing dungeon keys): Any available ways can copy the rule and quick paste on another tabs?

[faint cape]

Doesn't appear to have any way to do that

It's a new system though, so I'm sure they will be actively looking for suggestions, especially once people start using it

[storm wren]

🫡 Throw it to suggestions and let EHG to rethink

[twin oak]

I would like to know this too
in my death screens the killing blow damage from a boss in empowered is about twice what I think it should be according to tunklabs, I think it could be because of the penetration per area level

comparing the values from the ehp calculator and the death screen is a bit weird because the killing blow damage is affected by your damage reduction (this is just to get a rough look, I am not taking in consideration several DR layers):
Emperor of Corpses' Soul Bomb at 510 corruption --> 10k
Emperor of Corpses' Soul Bomb at 510 corruption without my Null Portent (20% DR and 7% res) --> 13.8k
Emperor of Corpses' Soul Bomb at 510 corruption without my Null Portent (20% DR and 7% res) and Seed of Ekkidrasil (26% damage to mana) --> 15.2k and 7k overkill extra (so it looks like the damage to mana is counted only for the overkill value)

but for myself the overkill value sits very well with the (boss estimated damage * 2) - ehp against one shots from the ehp calculator

[lofty terrace]

I have a question, how would a melee beastmaster realistically build ward, most options for building ward comes from elemental effects or hp drain

[faint cape]

I didn't see the original poster account for Lagon's stats in their calcs. Lagon has a 205% more damage modifier, so their damage calc should be multiplied by 3.05, which then might line up with the damage they took once you account for their armor and whatever other damage reduction they have.

[toxic echo]

the only way to really do it is to use cleaver solution and str stack, with lowlife

[faint cape]

Primarily the low life items like exsang, last steps, and experimental gloves (alternatively regen stacking with vessel). Then using cleaver solution to get ward retention per strength.

[lofty terrace]

Gotcha, i'm asking since ward seems to be king once you push corruption

[faint cape]

Low life is better than vessel because you can use cornered beast for 80% more melee damage

[lofty terrace]

That's true

[toxic echo]

eh. life and ward are a lot closer than they were last patch. life is more than enough

[twin oak]

oh god I am blind, thank you!
then an average soul bomb at 510 corruption without damage modifiers should do 23790, which makes sense with my numbers

[lofty terrace]

Ah, gotcha, so getting more armour, life and crit reduction should be viable once i push corruption?

That's reassuring to know since most searches on the internet puts ward way above health

[desert tree]

Endurance is really good for Hp builds

[twin oak]

as beast master you can easily get around 900 health regen with aspect of the panther with swipe and get a decent hybrid health ward ehp
another option for going hybrid is going nuts with a mana generator and another mana spender skill and the affix mana spent gained as ward (eg with the belt from Abomination) (not that I have tried it though, but I think it would be rather low ward)
the problem is mostly building ward retention, another tool you can use that they have not mentioned are the crows, which can give you 10 intelligence (10*4% ward retention) each
and another thing for building ward retention is using Frostbite Shackles and going way over the cold resistance cap (its efficiency was nerfed in 1.1 to half)
personally I wouldn't build ward on a primalist right now, unless it was some kind of experiment

[lofty terrace]

Ye, i use swipe to build stacks then use upheaval

I burn quite a lot of mana that way

An understood, tyvm. I'll focus on health and endurance

[kind spade]

hello i have played the game before the paladin and falconer release... how do i unlock the merchant thing?

[faint cape]

Go to Maj'elka in the Divine Era, walk out the west side door

[desert tree]

Before the Paladin release??

[faint cape]

Hah I didn't notice that. That's quite a while!

[sterile stream]

this is my highest corruption timeline, and this echo suddenly appear, never appear before when i push this timeline, is this bug?

[surreal verge]

Intended. You have 8+ gazes.

[wicked plover]

stream in 2h or 1?

[kind spade]

is there a cap for corruption?

[wicked plover]

technically yes, practically no (you wont reach it ever)

[desert tree]

I think someone reached it in Offline by editing their save
The number 52K smth comes to my mind. But I am not sure

[kind spade]

is it possible to see the date that i purchased the game in Steam?

i think it has been more than a year

[wise ember]

Yes, account details in steam -> view purchase history

[crystal jackal]

hmm, that's very interesting...I thought the penetration per lvl was included in the calculation since you need to enter Area lvl in the tunklab calculator...

[twin oak]

That was my mistake
See this #❔┃ask-the-community message

[crystal jackal]

aha, i see....thanks!

[noble prairie]

If I have multiple summoned spriggans from the Friend of the Forest node of Spriggan Form, does each spriggan have its own limit of 6 summoned vines, or are they shared?

[kind spade]

geez my steam takes almost a minute to load pages for some reason

lmao 2021 actually

kinda crazy...

[desert tree]

Good question. But I would guess they have their own limit

[crystal jackal]

Does anyone know how high corruption you can speed farm for CoF favor on a well geared shadow daggers bladedancer?

[dusky kite]

And what do you think the straps were made of? The previous lizard! And now that you've ruined them, another lizard must die for a replacement. See, it would be ecologically more reasonable to just kill the lizard outright. Reduces your footprint and all that.

[storm wren]

? Why this post is removed?

[crystal jackal]

it's a bot repost from 5 months ago about a bug that's fixed

[remote mirage]

whats the pan hitting head sound about again?

[desert tree]

You getting stunned?

[remote mirage]

ah ok

[junior pike]

Hi chat!
If I pick for example left, will I be able to play right monolith in future? And whats the differences about them?

[toxic echo]

well both are unlocked...you can play them both at anytime

left one is lvl 62 content, and has fire/cold enemies. right is lvl 66...mostly void

[junior pike]

Oh, okay, thanks.
Quest just saying that I supposed to choose the path

[toxic echo]

generally people stay on the right side until empowered

[junior pike]

so, what about drop? equal?

[toxic echo]

outside of level restriction drops, yea

[junior pike]

thank you so much for your answer

[brazen garnet]

About Palarus sword, if any1 know:

• Worth using 2 swords at the same time? I mean, the sword says 3x per second, would we trigger 6 per second?
• What % attack speed is the ideal?

[faint cape]

The chance to proc is added together. Whatever attack speed gets you to proc the max (3 per second) on a single target, it's going to depend largely on what skill you use.

It takes quite a lot of attack speed to cap it out unless you dual wield, so generally just get as much as you can for bosses - for clearing you hit cap super easy since you can hit a lot of enemies per attack

[brazen garnet]

Does wings of argentus "less dmg taken while moving" is applied when you are channeling warpath?

[faint cape]

Yes

[brazen garnet]

I love you.

[lost wigeon]

How’s controller support looking currently? Not seeing anything in the event notes.. I sit at my computer all day for work and prefer to play from my couch and TV now haha (Moonlight/Sunshine to ATV 4K over ethernet, highly recommend btw)

[lost wigeon]

For context, I got my 100hrs in at launch and haven’t played much since. The event looks promising, but seen a lot of controller complaints (especially with ranged builds) lately

[toxic echo]

Overall its pretty good, prolly say like 90% of the skills work fine. It has the normal distance/targetting jank that controllers have in these types of games. And the normal inventory jank too. The latest patch did mess up some targeting on controllers from what i heard, but that hopefully gets fixed on next patch

[west ferry]

this is saying 240328 right?

[toxic echo]

Yes

[west ferry]

imagine if i could only see dmg over 200k that would be nice

[lament gulch]

What season are u guys up to

[toxic echo]

Still cycle 2. Cycle 3 is sometime q1 2025

[lament gulch]

Ah ok

[surreal verge]

Shadow falcons aren’t created by sync strike

[dawn lagoon]

I see

So its more like 'Shadows created by Sync Strike within 4 seconds' is more exact

[surreal verge]

#🔪┃rogue might have a more correct answer, but I think that’s how it works

[dawn lagoon]

Kinda confusing since there no dmg number for this skill.

[clear flame]

So newer to the game is the update launching on monday a "season/league" or just an update?

[hazy cape]

looked online but can't find an answer anywhere... melee weapons have adaptive base flat dmg, but if a skill has two damage element tags (physical and fire), how does the 50 base dmg of my sword apply? Half half split, or does it just add to the original dmg tag because the fire was added due to node? To be clear, the skill node ADDS the fire tag, and does not remove the physical tag.

[sly anchor]

Are they deleting ALL characters in the coming update? Or is it just like a new cycle starting and our old cycle characters will become legacy

[lofty terrace]

Like a new cycle

[wary sierra]

is there a way to the temple of lagon after I cut the quest through dungeon? the way is not open through talking to Harton

[faint cape]

Skipping this chapter with the dungeon shouldn't affect any quests in it. It didn't in the past either, so if something has changed, submit a bug report. Just make sure you really can't use the zone transition or any waypoints in the isle of storms.

[noble prairie]

Do vines summoned by spriggans count as my vines for the purpose of the Silvafrond ring or the Tears of the Forest amulet?

[desert tree]

Pretty sure they don't

@noble prairie

If you haven't tried it yet, let me know I will

[noble prairie]

Fair but sadge.

[hidden ether]

do you guys think they will ever add guns/a gun class to this game?

i have been playing Grim Dawn a lot recently using a gun as my weapon and pretty much making an auto attack only build and i keep thinking that a gun class in this game would be so fun

[desert tree]

Not impossible

[hidden ether]

for some reason to me at least guns always feel like the chunkiest heaviest weapons in these kinds of games

i went to exilecon so i got to play a little bit of poe2 for like 15 minutes and the gun in that game feels so good

closest feeling to that I have got in Last Epoch is probably Shatter Strike for Spellblade

[cedar dragon]

has there been any word about fixing the Decrepit Mortals node in Ghostflame so that it gets the curse tag?

[acoustic thicket]

Hey guys, so I did Lightless Arbor, and now I am able to teleport to Imperial Era. How does that work exactly? What happens to the quests I have yet to do in Ruined Era? And the rewards I would get from those quests?

[hidden ether]

your main quest gets advanced basically, but you still need to go back and do side quests for your points and idol slots

[crystal jackal]

my understanding is that all **ailments inherit the multipliers ** from the skill that applies them (unless it's stated that e.g only applies to hit portion).
this means that you have 2 poisons on a target where 1 deals 100 dmg and another 300 damage if they were applied by different skills....

But how does this work for Shadow Daggers where different skills apply stacks that don't deal dmg and then only trigger 1 instance of shadow daggers once you reach 4 stacks where 3 different skills could have contributed to stacking those 4 stacks?

[desert tree]

So Shadow Dagger is a weird one (like Spark Charge)

It's a skill procced by an ailment

It doesn't inherit More Dmg unless specifically stated

[crystal jackal]

do you know of a node where this happens?

[desert tree]

I know for Spark Charge, but I never played Rogue so for SD I don't know

[worthy spade]

Homeward node on healing hands.. does it work with seraph node?

[desert tree]

Yes

Btw if you convert HH to Melee with Seraph Blade, it's no longer ranged and is always kinda center on your Character

[surreal verge]

It does not. It's an ailment that procs another damage skill, so inheritance doesn't really do anything. (The inheritance is tied to the ailment but not what it procs)

[worthy spade]

I have 2 more questions..
what about smite? does the lagon node changes smite to electric even if it's already void?

or does it add elecftric tag on the smite? which one overrides the other?

[worthy spade]

ok ty ty my bad

[surreal verge]

(Lightning bolts stay lightning and will still appear even if smite is void, as it says secondary effects are not affected.)

[worthy spade]

last one, does buffing area tag on multistrike increase the range of smite targeting?

[desert tree]

Not sure

[surreal verge]

I'm not sure, probably?
Multistrike itself doesn't AoE I think so it's most likely the extra swords' targetting range

[desert tree]

My guess is Increase Area would apply to only the primary attack

[worthy spade]

but it is melee like hh

which has area tag as well

[desert tree]

But there is a node that allows you to increase the range of the other sword(the ones you convert into Smite)

[surreal verge]

HH is at least clearly an aoe melee attack unlike multistrike. (HH hits an arc while multistrike is an overhead swing)

[worthy spade]

agreed

[desert tree]

MS is an aoe

[surreal verge]

Oh

[crystal jackal]

@desert tree @surreal verge
so if I am to correctly calculate the damage of a shadow dagger bladedancer in my excel i need to calculate every single skill individually, as well as how many shadow dagger ailments they stack and then add all of that together?

including things like this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/umbral_blades_explosion

[surreal verge]

Then ignore what I said lmao

[desert tree]

A small one

[worthy spade]

ty all for the help!

[desert tree]

Tbh Queue7 that would be worth asking Mike in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[surreal verge]

No. Shadow Dagger inherits 0 things from skills, it's a seperate proc and thus doesn't inherit. It will do the same damage regardless of what applied the stacks.

[crystal jackal]

I mean if the combined usage of sync strike and shift applies 4 or 8 or 12 stacks of shadow daggers..

[surreal verge]

Yes, they'll do the exact same damage regardless of WHAT applied the shadow daggers.
Eg: 4 stacks from sync strike and 4 stacks from shadow cascade all do the same shadow daggers damage.

[timber flax]

do i just need to stop for a second and read to avoid finding a pack that instantly kills me on every character campaign playthrough

[surreal verge]

It inherits nothing. It does not care what applied the stacks.

[surreal verge]

You might have a build issue honestly, unless you're at the last chapter (Lv 50+)

[timber flax]

yeah it's just almost always the stalkers in the snowy area that get me but characters always explode somewhere before 50

[maiden pilot]

where i can find list of monsters which can apply

[surreal verge]

Those do mostly DoT damage so if your health and cold res isn't up to standards you'll be taking quite some damage.

[robust oriole]

I am sorry, but the boosts we are getting now, do they only apply to cycle characters or is it for all? 🥹

[storm blaze]

All

[surreal verge]

All, but only lasts for a month starting from the event time

[robust oriole]

Okay thanks!

[surreal verge]

Most likely it's 0, unless you gave them a monolith modifier.
A single enemy does.

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/bestiary
Sort by Description.

[wise ember]

On that topic - resist over 75 help against mark or nah?

[desert tree]

Yes

But with how rare Mark for Death is, I personally don't recommend try to cap for it

[surreal verge]

Yes, but they’re pretty rare and you normally don’t build for it

(Unless you apply it to yourself or something)

[desert tree]

And you can also Cleanse it

[wise ember]

Yeah i know, but tbh i don't look at echo affixes until i see that cool symbol above my head that makes me fall over and die

[surreal verge]

[maiden pilot]

can i get link for this sheet?

[surreal verge]

The msg right under it, tunklabs

[timber flax]

does rogue need to incorporate dodge as well as block when playing around bo's anarchy or is there a way to crank block as the main mitigation?

[desert tree]

Problem with Bo and Block is it's not a shield

So you cant slam Exalted Block Chance on it, making it really hard to be blocked capped (or near capped)

[surreal verge]

COnsidering your sources of block and kinda non-existant... (All you have is the ring and glove affix, which are best case + 12% block chance total)

[desert tree]

Blessing too

But meh

[timber flax]

yeah i only did block on sentinel so wasn't sure if block was good for a rogue using that

[surreal verge]

Not really, Bo's is kinda bad.

[desert tree]

Block is nice (on non sentinel) if you don't need an off hand. You just slap a shield, get some extra tankyness.

[surreal verge]

Yeah but it's jsut an extra layer of defense, can't be relied on.

[stoic idol]

Hello guys just quick question cause I am confused af, the next reset will start on 19th?

[junior pike]

good day everyone.
What means rerolls all implicits? What is implicits?

[stoic idol]

implicits are the stats of the item that will always have

[junior pike]

is it like sealed stats?

[stoic idol]

for example a certain item always gives +10 Melee Damage then that's the implicit of the item

[junior pike]

aaaah

I got u

thank you

[stoic idol]

you're welcome

[junior pike]

So, it rolls value, right?

[stoic idol]

yes

[junior pike]

in its range

thank you so much

[stoic idol]

you're welcome ❤️

[desert tree]

Are you talking about Glyph of Refinement? I believe that's how it's called

[junior pike]

rune of shaping

My brain is blowing up, this game so hard

[desert tree]

...., yeah my bad

Completely wrong. So yes it will reroll the implicit, within the range of your item

[junior pike]

ye, wafu already told me this, so the question was I dont understand what is impicit by it self, but he alredy asnwered.
Anyway thanks for your word

[junior pike]

Its affixes, no?

[desert tree]

Blue Implicit
Green Prefixes
Red Suffixes
Purple Sealed (can be either prefix or suffix)

[junior pike]

ah

got ya

[desert tree]

It matters in certain case, like %Health is a suffix and cannot go in a Prefix slot

[junior pike]

Its obvious

okay, so another question.
purple affixes they are just common, but more then 5 tier, right?

[desert tree]

Correct

[junior pike]

So, can I upgrade tier more, by myself in any way?

[desert tree]

No, the higher you can craft is t5

[storm wren]

which one is harder, D4 or LE?

[desert tree]

Only "exception" would be Nemesis. If you see a T5 and empowered the Nemesis it can go up a tier or 2

[junior pike]

So I can only get more tier affixes on items only from drop?

[desert tree]

Correct

[junior pike]

Got you, thank you so much

[junior pike]

D4 is actually not a game for me

I am sorry, but, its mine opinion

LE much interesting game

[storm wren]

Interesting, why not a game for you

[junior pike]

Its not that deep, its just a game for plot, nothing more

[storm wren]

😆 I'm struggling to learn D4 after learnt LE for a long time

[junior pike]

Also, there is a factor of blizzard, how they are killing thier games

I dont actually want to talk about other projects here

Do rarity of item influence on amount of implicits or they are stable for each item?

[wise ember]

I think both explain things very well in game, so you can play fine without constantly checking wiki and googling stuff, but in terms of build crafting and itemization LE is more complex and harder to learn, but in a good way in d4 you start thinking at paragon board

[wise ember]

Rarity only influence forging potential as far as i know, def not implicits

[junior pike]

Also rarity influence on amount of affixes, more them - higher rarity

As I noticed

Maybe wrong

[storm wren]

Rarity means the tier of affix more yeah

And the amount

[wise ember]

I have seen exalted items with one affix, but that may be CoF bonus (rare to exalted) thing, i don't know how exactly that one works

[storm wren]

Magic- three T5- affixes
Rare- four t5- affixes
Exalted- at least one T6/T7 affix

[junior pike]

What are those numbers?

[wise ember]

Amount of affix chards you have for that affix

[junior pike]

Aaah, thanks

Can I seal affix if I already have 4 of them max tier?
e.g. I have 4 affixes that I need and they are 5 tier. Can I seal one of them?

[storm blaze]

Yes, there's a reset on 19th
comes with a month long event

[storm blaze]

no

[junior pike]

Sadge

But thanks

[wise ember]

Keep in mind that chance to seal gets lower with higher tier of given affix, t4 is pretty unlikely to seal (~15%) but t1 is guarantied if item has 3 other affixes

[junior pike]

But there is no way to upgrade tier if its seal...

Or I am wrong?

[wise ember]

You are right, but if you trying to seal affix with glyph of despair - it can fail, it will upgrade but not seal

[junior pike]

Wait, there is another way to seal affix except glyph of despair?

[wise ember]

Only nemesis but that's completely random

And on random items aha

[storm blaze]

Also if you have 3 mods you want on the thing
and 1 unwanted at low tier
it's safer to try sealing it and then add in affix you want
than trying to chaos in something you'd want

[junior pike]

But nemesis is giving u random items, so I think nemesis not that profit

Maybe wrong and dont understand how it works

[junior pike]

sorry didnt get this...

[wise ember]

Yeah, im trying to say that despair is good for "cleaning" unwanted low - tier affixes from otherwise good item and adding something useful in it's place

[storm blaze]

Yeah, tried putting it in a way that would be easier for fxe to understand but apparently didn't work

[junior pike]

I am sorry, english is not my first language and I am new in this type of this game

[wise ember]

Let's say you have forging potential here and you don't want that t1 str - you can seal it guaranteed and craft something good for your build

But if that was t4 str - chance would be only ~15% so not that likely

[desert tree]

Its garanteed only on Exalted Items

[junior pike]

But, its not reasonable to seal smth u dont need

[wise ember]

Oh, forgot about that

[junior pike]

What mean exalted?

[wise ember]

Purple, so items with t6 or t7

[junior pike]

Ah

got it

[storm blaze]

If you seal it it goes to its own slot
so you can place something else in the slot it was in

[junior pike]

Ye, but in example we see, I want strength and I just wanted to seal smth, and put another affix, to get stronger

[storm blaze]

That was just an example.

[junior pike]

Yeyeye

[surreal verge]

To seal an affix, the affix must be NOT T5 (It has to be upgradable.)

[wise ember]

It is if you can craft something good in it's place, your only other choice is rune of removal that removes random affix including ones you want

[junior pike]

Okaay. Thank you all, now I understood what Ive been telling me

Iam really sorry for my dumbness

[wise ember]

Don't be sorry, all good)

[junior pike]

Russian? xd

[wise ember]

Yep

[spiral jungle]

Hey guys, can you skip the campaign if you reached endgame in a previous cycle?

[surreal verge]

No instant skips, only the speed run path of using dungeons.

[spiral jungle]

Ah gotchu, so I can do that freely?

[surreal verge]

As long as you char can handle it and have the dungeon keys for it.
Alternatively, monoliths unlock as soon as you choose your mastery.

[spiral jungle]

I guess it's unlike POE where you just do everything faster?

Like there are actual shortcuts?

[west ferry]

do rare mobs have mods like increased hp speed and stuff like that like how poe does it if so i wonder what a headhunter would be like

ignore the str and dex that would need to be like 10 tops

[surreal verge]

No, there's not really a rare modifier thing.

yet

[wise ember]

Isn't things like 'takes less damage from distant enemies' are modifiers?

[surreal verge]

Those aren't rarity based, those are monster based.
Eg: All Abyssal Crawlers have "Resist void damage"

[wise ember]

Ah, i had suspicion about that ty

[tawny fiber]

general question regarding ward/low life/endurance interaction:

if you are below your endurance threshold on life but have a chunk of ward, does Endurance apply to damage dealt to your ward? or is endurance a modifier that only applies to health specifically

[surreal verge]

No, endurance only applies to health.

[wise ember]

Now i want to know how endurance applies to mana when you have seed equipped, is it applied to your whole mana pool or is endurance threshold applied for mana in that case?

[desert tree]

Without Seed of Ekkidrasil it doesnt affect your mana pool

I believe

[tawny fiber]

Okay, thats what I figured- I wasnt positive but I was fairly certain especially since thatd make LL ward even more OD. Makes sense that it is a quality specifically of the health below the threshold, considering it applies to any damage done to health below the threshold even if you start above it.

[wise ember]

Yeah actually seed says exactly how it works i just forgot about it ahaha, it makes % of endurance affect your whole mana pool, nothing to do with threshold

[west ferry]

movement speed could work when not in combat from the mono mods

does the crit shrine currently increase crit dmg or just all types of crit chance if the second part shame as i have close to 100% chance

[surreal verge]

Crit shrine just gives you +100% base crit chance.

[grand shoal]

I think too that was how they work

[sly fable]

Huh? No, rare mobs get rare modifiers.

[surreal verge]

What rare modifiers?

[sly fable]

Less damage from distant enemies, revives two seconds after death, creates a copy at 50% health, allies take less damage

Probably more than that

Those are very monster specific and wouldn't be much use for a headhunter

[surreal verge]

I DID say there's monster specific modifiers

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monstermods

Oh right there's these.

[sly fable]

Those aren't monster specific, though, are they? I only see them on rares

[storm blaze]

Most monsters have 0 res unless they have the "Resist x "

[surreal verge]

Yes those are for rares/random minibosses, I honestly forgot about these.

OOops

[sacred zealot]

I'd really love to not have 10-15 of these in every other echo.

[sly fable]

Who gets crit anymore!?

[surreal verge]

Cap crit avoid/reduced crit damage pls

[sacred zealot]

Haha fair point

[storm wren]

Over 1000 corruption, right?

[sacred zealot]

Yeah

[soft rivet]

I just had beer drop, is that normal?

[surreal verge]

Easter egg, it's a potion with a different name and nothing else.

[soft rivet]

Ah thank you

[remote mirage]

why does such a faraway node give so little stability? is everything now move to spamming envy glyphs?

[crystal jackal]

it's an arena node, they gave like half stability and take twice as long

[remote mirage]

ah, makes sense now

it gives less stability than a node right next to the start :|

[crystal jackal]

they also can't have mages, harbingers, stashes....welcome to the wonder that is the arena node...

[sly fable]

The arena nodes always give full bonus, though.

But yeah, they suck

So that node is like 60 stability

[storm wren]

🤭 I avoid to do arena echoes as much as possible after read a few feedback said it's no sense, indeed

[alpine pendant]

do companion combo skills like crowstorm use my or the minions stats?

[storm blaze]

minion

[surreal verge]

Minions'.

[undone mortar]

do we know when this cycle ends?

[alpine pendant]

well there is reset next thursday when the event begins but 1.1 end is most likely going to be near the launch of 1.2 cycle. And 1.2 cycle is currently scheduled for Q1 of 2025

[dense roost]

Is there any downside to creating a character in Hardcore? Based off the description, it seems like after your death, you just go into the exact same mode/progression minus the hardcore aspect

in some other games, your character fully dies or just goes to the non-cycle(?) mode

[surreal verge]

Your char goes to the softcore mode, and only your char. Your factions and stash stay in hardcore.

[dense roost]

idk what factions are yet, but I can see why stash staying in HC mode might be enough of a punishment for failing HC

that's cool

was mostly concerned on whether I'll still be able to experience the game fully with the cycle mechanics still

[surreal verge]

Cycle hardcore sends you back to cycle softcore and etc.

[dense roost]

neat

btw, are there any general benchmarks for defenses in hardcore?

[surreal verge]

I don't play hardcore so I can't answer you sadly

[dense roost]

all g

anyone else know? first playthrough ever and I just ripped to my first lightless arbor titan attempt :B

running marksman. not too many defenses there

[crystal jackal]

@dense roost a suggestion, don't play HC unless you play something that can stay far away and facetank stuff...the game is full with bad colliders on spells and no grace times before dmg starts to tick...I've beedn killed twice in the last hour dying to black sun rotating slam while being distinctly outside of the slam

[kindred narwhal]

Well this game is different and I think hardcore is pretty "stupid" since the progression is vastly different from class, gear and rng gear/forge upgrades.
Benchmark is just full defence character that does lower dmg or go more normal and hope it works out.
Sentinel, acolyte or mage are safer bets.

[dense roost]

that's fair. I enjoy HC though. always have

mm I see

in poe, you can still get by in HCSSF Ruthless even and still have a fairly quick and smooth progression

though I do hear that in LE, you really have to sacrifice offenses for defenses

and that it slows down the pace/progression quite a bit

[lofty terrace]

I mean, that's every ARPG to some extent

[dense roost]

in PoE, the offense part is usually fine and you reach certain defensive benchmarks regardless of the mode you're playing in

[kindred narwhal]

Bleed hammer forgeguard is great though, has a mix of everything if I were to recommend something

[lofty terrace]

You can rarely go purely one or the other, you usually need a balance of those

[dense roost]

Are Rune Prisons the cycle mechanic for 1.0 and the harbingers the cycle mechanic for 1.1? And do they exist in every zone?

like guaranteed harbinger every zone I enter for example?

[surreal verge]

Yes, no both are not guaranteed.

[dense roost]

ah, gotcha. thanks for the clarification

[sly fable]

There's really no need to shy away from HC. If you end up hating it and die to some BS, well, your character automatically moves to your new desired league

[crystal jackal]

anyone here that has done CoF favor /hour farm with shadow dagger bladedancer and know how high you can get? what corruption lvl did you do that in?

[soft axle]

The game Will be on sale day 20 or no?

[junior pike]

Can somebody help kill lagon on monolith in Legacy? please

[west ferry]

@junior pike what curruption?

[junior pike]

0

[west ferry]

sure give me 2 mins thats about how long it takes to boot whats your acc name

think all are in caps

[junior pike]

Shikitomori

[wise ember]

How does area level/corruption interact with rewards from prophecies (if at all)?

Chances for LP on uniques for example, are they the same for prophecy completed in campaign and one completed in 300 corruption mono?
On that topic - let's say i want high LP Julra ring, does tier of the dungeon matter? (lower tiers have higher chances for ring to drop, but higher level zone have higher change for lp according to game guide)

[faint cape]

Corruption affects LP chance on uniques dropped from prophecies, that's about the only thing that affects them (though it's not a massive increase).
Yes, dungeon tier matters because of the effects you mentioned. I'm not sure which is really the "most efficient" all things considered, but I always run the highest I can comfortably do for chances at getting a good obsession or vessel.

[wise ember]

Sorry, just to make sure, area level has no effect on prophecies, only corruption?

[faint cape]

Area level does affect them, I'm not sure exactly how, though. It might be the usual effect, or only some of those - either way, lower level is probably worse.

[wise ember]

Thank you!

[vagrant peak]

guys do this affect minions as well?

[potent hill]

Yes

[sonic saddle]

oh right i was gonna go test that

[faint cape]

If you are able to find out, I would definitely be interested to know 😁

[sonic saddle]

area level doesn't seem to affect prophecies

[sonic saddle]

popped a unique armor prophecy on lvl 4 boss, got:
1lp stormtide (req lvl 24, lpl 70)
0lp titan heart (req lvl 41, lpl 60)
2lp falcon fists (req lvl 27, lpl 27)
2lp the scavenger (req lvl 9, LPL 9)
1lp thornshell (req lvl 52, lpl 20)
1lp raidance (req lvl 61, lpl 70)
2lp snowblind (req lvl 10, lpl 10)
0lp harbinger of stars (req lvl 36, lpl 36)

obv none of those items should be able to drop at that area level, and only the scavenger, thornshell and snowblind should be able to theoretically drop with LP at that area level.

it could be possible it goes off something like "the higher of player or area level"

[faint cape]

This is all that I'm going off of: #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
It's not a lot of info, and Mike might also just be wrong, but yeah your test result is pretty much my experience as well

If he is right, then how the pool is limited by area level is completely unknown to me 😅

[surreal verge]

No

[solid path]

Hi.
I played ALOT of 1.1 but switched to PoE when settles came out.
Got my Frostclaw build to 1000c and loved it(CoF)
But Im starting to think I'll actually give the refresh cycle a go, but not with the same build.
Is there a list anywhere with really good builds?
I had my eyes on bleed hammerdin but never played it cause I'm more of a 1 char/cycle player, maybe 2.
is something like this strong?
i bookmarked it but never really looked in to it
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A17yNpKB

[neon compass]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (8) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 4,414, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 254, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 75 Str / 11 Dex / 12 Int / 1 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 79% / 79% / 87% / 76% / 71% / 87%
▸ EHP: 27,831 / 27,831 / 27,831 / 55,566 / 27,831 / 26,882 / 27,831

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 907
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,626)
▸ Block Chance: 88%, Mitigation: 57% (2,722)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Physical, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (21)
• Smite (20)

Used unique items:

• Blood of the Exile
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Valdyr's Chalice

[crystal jackal]

The only list I know that compares builds relative to each other is maxroll.

I know The curse has one, but he’s 1 guy playing builds for longer periods of time. So the list is very short for 1.1

[twin oak]

paladin hammer bleed can do even 1k corruption yes, I have seen planners quite similar to this one

[timber flax]

if i'm just going into a build with an idea and no guide how long what should i look for to tell me i should probably reroll another toon to try another idea?

i have a lich that didn't work out since drain life doesn't let her facetank like it thought it would and i'm not sure if she can turn into something useful

[surreal verge]

If you can't clear 200 corruption, the devs intended balance point (which any half-decent build breaks)

[timber flax]

oh she can't even do majasa so lol yeah that's a good sign

[surreal verge]

But ye drain life is a terrible skill, except in one setup

[timber flax]

that's good to know. i'm still trying new things. i saw good success with the squirrel helmet in the first cycle for something fun so i'm looking in that direction

are the captain falcon gloves good?

[crystal jackal]

a lich using drain life and https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgrAzATAHEA
to apply poisons is actually pretty good. 500-600 corruption farm with a lot of tankyness and leech helping you survive a lot of boss mechanics.

Majasa is hard fight for most builds...ppl usually skip her, go to monon and then come back and kill her when they are higher lvl

[timber flax]

what are lenses? i see that on that build page. i haven't seen those yet

[crystal jackal]

a Circle of fortune thing...they allow you to e.g have a chance to get more glove prophecies

[surreal verge]

Oh look it's the specific setup I mentioned, stygian

[stoic idol]

Hi new to the game, and I think I started at the wrong time. Cause of this cycle thing. If I continue to play in Legacy are there things I won't be able to access from the next new cycle?

[crystal jackal]

no, everything is identical in cycle and legacy

[stoic idol]

So we will access even all the events, buffs, and sht in for the next cycle in Legacy?

[crystal jackal]

yes

[stoic idol]

Sooo what makes people should play in the new cycle?

if there aint anything new

genuinely curious

[crystal jackal]

leaderboards, and if you play MG, the hope that the economy has more active players

[surreal verge]

(And a fresh economy)

[stoic idol]

so only leaderboards and the trading economy will be reset is the main reason for this cycle?

[crystal jackal]

yeah, many people like the fresh start...I'm playing CoF but will join the cycle since I want to start over again,

[surreal verge]

And people wanting a fresh start.

[surreal verge]

For any cycle.

[stoic idol]

I see, I see

[lofty terrace]

So, out of curiosity, is 83-100 very slow, or am i underleveled to the point that the xp i gain is reduced?

I'm 83 and just did my first 100 corruption echo and the xp bar barely dented

[crystal jackal]

lvling slows down as you reach higher lvls.

[stoic idol]

so what are the main pros and cons for keeping on playing in legacy compared to playing in the next new cycle. so I know if I should just wait

[lofty terrace]

I'm used to xp being very slow on later levels, but i'm surprised because the echo has 68% more xp and more xp as an echo reward

[surreal verge]

It's not a lot.

[lofty terrace]

Ah gotcha, so it's just going to slow down at this point

[crystal jackal]

when you play a lot of ARPGs, eventually you get to a point where you reach the end goals much faster than the length of a cycle.
e.g. have several lvl 97+ chars on 1.1 cycle...

and when you get to that point, getting to start over from 0 is more fun than doing yet another char with the stash full of OP items....

this is the main driver for ppl joining the reset

[stoic idol]

I see, I see. Thank you so much

[lofty terrace]

There's also SSF which is really fun because you can feel the investment made into the char

[dusty jetty]

guys, i have question, cuzm im not sure. At 19 sptember my chars will be on Legacy, or i can play with them on actual cycle?

[lofty terrace]

They will become legacy

[crystal jackal]

you mean character found or ssf?

[plush holly]

both cycle and legacy have access to the same content on this game for now

[lofty terrace]

CSF in this case

So no stash items from other chars

[plush holly]

your cycle character will be moved to legacy along with the stash (as withdraw-only)

[lofty terrace]

Also a question for slamming. Does it have to be the same base set of items, or can it be any item of the same overall cathegory

[surreal verge]

Same item type. Eg: 2 handed mace for a 2 handed mace unique

[lofty terrace]

Gotcha

[dusky kite]

They had been slowing leveling after 80-85 down for a few patches by now, somehow they believe that it makes endgame "more rewarding" (as the game has serious issues in regards to progression past about the point of entering empowered monos)

[lofty terrace]

Ah, i'm doing empowered monos atm and loving it

Only corr 100 but i'd say being able to do empowered monos at this stage of the char is a good benchmark for its potential

[dusky kite]

the problem is that once you get there, gear upgrades slow down to a crawl and start to be gated behind layers upon layers of rng unless you are on mg

[lofty terrace]

Yup, that much is true. But this is the bread and butter of ARPGs anyway

[crystal jackal]

not necessarily...in PoE trade nothing is gated behind RNG

[fluid ermine]

Is 19. September just some event or actual season reset and new season? I'm confused

[lofty terrace]

Well yeah, trade is always there

But RNG will always be a factor if you get a good item or not to trade with/for

[crystal jackal]

same "season", just ladder reset

[lofty terrace]

Still, you're still beholden to RNG if you get items that are worth trading with/for no matter how you flip the coin

[crystal jackal]

that's why I used PoE trade as an example...RNG plays no role...RNG can only help you get the item faster.
but every single farming strat has a base return

[lofty terrace]

Yes, that much is true. But saying RNG plays no role is kinda disingenious as well

[crystal jackal]

well, when RNG can only help you, but never hamper you...it's also disingenious to compare it to a system where you get 0 if you don't run into lucky RNG

[lofty terrace]

True, but Last epoch has trade as well no?

If you don't go SSF/CSF

[crystal jackal]

yeah, haven't tried it though, so can't speak to LE trade

[lofty terrace]

So, unless you choose to actively restrict yourself to the RNG gods by CSF/SSF which is an active choice mind you

The kind of issue i can see with LE's endgame is that it lacks in endgame activities,

But then again let's be honest, take a game like D4 or PoE, what are the endgame activities there? Target farming bosses and maps

[crystal jackal]

haven't played D4, so have no clue there....

But when it comes to PoE endgame ,yeah, technically speaking you just "farm maps". but that's not what makes PoE's endgame good.
what makes it good is that no matter what kind of build you make, there's several viable farming strategies you can choose that suit the strengths of your particular build....

this means that no matter what kind of build you pick, you'll have several different strats to pick from that are suited for that build

[lofty terrace]

So, the question is not really a matter of the RNG itself, it's a matter of, is the endgame itself engaging enough to justify doing something over and over.

[crystal jackal]

partly...there's also the human perception of "am I actualy working towards something where I can see the progress"....
of "am I just sitting here wating to get get f'd over by RNG"

and even if you are in LE trade, you still have to live with the last version of this RNG here

[lofty terrace]

Gamblers fallacy yeah

[crystal jackal]

you can go farm a bunch of gold...buy your super expensive 1LP ravenouse void, and then slam a useless affix on it 15 times in a row.

[timid owl]

hey

I have an egg of the forgotten

in my nemesis drop

and Idk what it exactly does

is it only for replacing or should I try to get it by killing the nemesis?

[lofty terrace]

If you empower it, it will reroll into a legendary with potentially LP

[timid owl]

ohhhh

I see

so it is almost always better to just empower

thanks

[surreal verge]

If you don't put anything it turns into a random unique

[acoustic thicket]

How do you stop the harbinger spawning, it spawns whether or not I tick the use harbinger crest. I just wanted the blessing...

[crystal jackal]

when you enter to fight the boss, if you unselect the checkbox below the join window, you won't get a harbinger after the main boss dies.
if you do, it's a bug. please report it in that case.

[acoustic thicket]

yeah it spawns even with it unticked. Maybe to do with offline characters. I will report it with in game form now. Thanks

[surreal verge]

Are you in normal monoliths?

[acoustic thicket]

No empowered

[crystal jackal]

why would they spawn in nomral monos?

[surreal verge]

The last lv90 you clear out of the 3 spawns a forced harbinger, as the gate to unlock empowered.

If that's not the case, then might be a bug.

[storm wren]

The only shortness of the first harbinger appear in normal timeline only is if your alt had unlocked empowered timelines, you have to go back. The feeling is quite odd... 🤔

[acoustic thicket]

I already killed that one, I am farming other empowered monoliths now. Currently ending the storm.

[surreal verge]

Yeah, then it might be a bug.

[acoustic thicket]

ahh fair enough. Just reported it via in game form. Thanks

[lofty terrace]

I had one forced onto me

So it's not a bug most likely

[arctic mauve]

Hi I want to ask about Black Arrow from aerial assault node, why I cant pick it up?

[plush holly]

the last one at 90+ spawns one the first time you clear one of them

[faint axle]

Hello, whats a nice build that has a smooth progression to it? Kind of a weird criteria, ive tried plasma orb and rive void knight in the past and both were nice

[twin oak]

in 1.1 glacier sorcerer and bleed falconer are great starters and can do all the content easily

[crystal jackal]

bladedancer shadow daggers is used for fastest bladedancer lvling from like lvl 18 and you can progress it all the way into 500-800 corruption with just smal lincremental upgrades

[plush holly]

frostclaw sorcerer, aka fc sorc

levels as glacier first however

there's also paladin with javelin

[storm wren]

why everyone go to maxroll instead of lastepochtool to post different builds after 1.1?

I don't know what's happened

Or just maxroll's team update builds for 1.1 so everyone go to maxroll instead of lastepochtool to check out builds?

oh wait...Pre-testing I guess

[crystal jackal]

not sure what you're talking about

as far as Im aware, only the maxroll team can post build guides on max roll, no one else is posting builds there

[errant pebble]

how can I see crit strike chance for throwing skills ?
cant find it anywhere

[surreal verge]

You can't. Pen and paper!

[errant pebble]

hmm ok

also will Imperial Uprising be a new cycle or just added things to the existing one ?

[toxic echo]

The event is a restart of 1.1. 1.2 is sometime in q1 2025

[errant pebble]

aha okay thx for answer

[acoustic thicket]

What is the quickest way to push corruption? Doing each Echo of a World as I find them or to just push further away before doing one?

[twin oak]

wait until you have 4 gazes of Orobyss (52 corruption, 12+1 each, the +1 is with rank 7 in the FK faction)
you get gazes of Orobyss from:

• 1 when you defeat the timeline boss (and Harbinger if it spawned)
• +3 if you equip a needle idol when you kill them
• +1 when you kill a Harbinger (with rank 10 in FK)
  when you fight a shade do it the farthest away from the start as possible (18 corruption max, but it is pretty rare), something like 12-16 is usually ok, they also give more loot that way

once you have 40 corruption more in another timeline you can catch up to it quickly by killing the shade of Orobyss from the node that spawns at the beginning of the monolith web after you finish some echoes (I can't remember if it is 1 or 2 or if it depends)

once you have enough glyphs of envy and needles the fastest way to increase corruption in your highest timeline is to make use of the corruption bonus from having 4 gazes and reapeat the process as fast as possible
you need 8 gazes in order to spawn the shade of Orobyss echo at the beginning of the web, which are easily obtained from killing the boss and using needles

[acoustic thicket]

By timeline boss do you mean the Harbingers? Or the actual time line quest boss?

[vagrant peak]

global damage and global crit damage multiplier affects minions?

[twin oak]

the timeline boss, doing the Harbinger does not matter, if anything it helps because it can drop a needle

[acoustic thicket]

If it doesn't say it affects minions specifically I do not think it affects minions

[chrome moat]

Can i lvl using the Ballista build on maxroll?

[acoustic thicket]

Maxroll have leveling builds on their website