❔┃ask-the-community

[tired rover]

Guys what to look for from stats if i wanna build druid volibear ?

😆

[fickle mantle]

quick question, let's say I want to go shaman or druid but I want beastmaster's natural bond, is there a way for me to unlock the latter half of the mastery?

[surreal verge]

Apart from picking the subclass itself, no.

[fickle mantle]

so the latter halves of masteries are locked if I don't pick it then?

[surreal verge]

Yup.

[fickle mantle]

okay good to know, saves me a few hours of grinding.

thanks!

What're keys for? Should I use them or save them up for later?

[dense root]

dungeons and arena

[toxic echo]

Generally better for later, so you can really make use of the reward at the end...but you really get plenty of keys, and you gotta the lower tiers eventually anyways

[dense root]

if you’re able to drop them you can probably handle tier one dungeons

really you can probably handle the first three tiers

only tier four requires a decent build + player skill

[tired aspen]

hello just bought last epoch this weekend and have been playing it since, and today i tried to load the game and its telling me to migrate account to steam?? not sure whats going on

i bought the game through steam and now it wont work

[desert tree]

!support

[ripe brook]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[buoyant sinew]

steam goes down for maintenance every week at about this time for a few minutes

LE doesn't handle that very informatively but that's the error message it displays when it can't connect to steam

so it's perfectly normal and will resolve itself in a few minutes

[desert tree]

Oh ! Did not know this

[tired aspen]

exited steam, reloaded, booted up, working properly now

[round gust]

Where does Arboreal and The Falcon drop from?

im doing Mono now, but i have no idea where to go to grind them

[candid elm]

They're both random world drops. Monoliths can have rewards that award a random unique/set item of a type. List here https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/monolith. For example, in The Age of Winter you may find an echo with the reward of a random non-boss-only unique/set ring. So that can give you extra chances at getting The Arboreal ring. Or Blood, Frost, and Death you may find the reward of random non-boss-only unique/set body armor for extra chances at The Falcon.

You can also use Rune of Ascendance on the base item type to get a random unique/set item, for example any ring for a random non-boss-only unique/set ring.

[round gust]

thank you

so i just rando farm it on monolith

[amber trench]

Hello players.
Well, I am a gamer who will buy the game rather on release but I would like to know one thing because it has made me terribly curious and what I would like from ARPG games.

Well, on the main page in the skills tab there are a few examples and their variations. Does every skill in the game have its own variations or are there a few main class skils that have these variations?

[buoyant sinew]

every skill has its own tree, and yes every skill's tree includes a few nodes that dramatically change how the skill functions

(technically there is one skill that doesn't currently have a tree, but that is getting added on full release)

[amber trench]

No way, okay, you bought me. Thanks pal

[native sail]

If you're curious about them ahead of time you can open lastepochtools.com and check them all out (aside from the one that currently doesn't have a tree as everything on that site is taken straight from the game's files and code)

[amber trench]

Woah, okey. Thanks dude

[round gust]

can i use the rune of ascendance on a yellow ring?

or does it have to be white

[sinful laurel]

Any ring

To get a ring

[round gust]

ok and what are purple items

i know yellow, blue, green

and orange

[sinful laurel]

They are rare items with at least one affix that is drop only t6 or t7

Crafted affixes on regular rares only go to t5

[round gust]

does the base gear type matter for uniques?

as in, does the type of body armor determine what unique it is

[native sail]

Nope. You can't influence what you get from it beyond it just giving you a body armor for using a body armor.

[fringe lily]

Is the skill tool tip Damage Per Second value reliable? Does it take things like Crit Chance & Crit Multiplier into it's calculations?

[sinful laurel]

no. kind of but no

[mellow mist]

Looking for new-player friendly builds that can be on the easy side to be switched over to endgame...if there are any?

[dense root]

i haven’t been a new player in a long time but i suspect umbral blades is new player friendly by virtue of being so powerful it kind of doesn’t matter what you do

also respeccing to other builds in the endgame is trivial

the only things you can’t change are your class and mastery selections

[mellow mist]

thank you

[elfin ermine]

is it true void knights are weak? 👀

[sinful laurel]

no

[pastel pebble]

VK has some really solid damage output here and there

[white depot]

Can someone explain the early access? It says early access release is Feb 21, and steam says release is April 30. Do you get early access if you pre-order?

[cinder fossil]

"early access" on steam means you can buy and play the game in it's unfinished (early) state

the 1.0 (full) release is on Feb 21

[white depot]

OK thanks

[elfin ermine]

are materials shared between characters?

[sinful laurel]

For most modes yes

[tame parcel]

any reason why this loot filter doesnt work? its showing me stuff to do with block chance when block change isnt ticked

for example this is shown

[sudden harbor]

ah

you need to hide everything first

xD

at the bottom

ex:

[tame parcel]

ah okay

could I not just use hide all items at bottom instead of hide all rare, magic and normal?

nvm actually cos then set pieces wont show

[sudden harbor]

if you want

this just what i got

[sudden harbor]

sure

[tame parcel]

seems to be working now, it hid the stuff on ground

ty for ur help

[granite musk]

beastmmaster any good guys? which is better acolyte necromancer or beastmaster primalist?

[native sail]

They both have builds that excel in different areas, there's some overlap but it's frankly a personal choice on those that overlap of which flavor is more interesting and how much gear do you want to invest

[granite musk]

yea i think ill go primalist acolyte is too much of a necromancer

ty deias

[prisma sleet]

do we know if le tools will get the warlock stuff prior to 1.0 for theory crafting purposes?

[surreal verge]

No, considering letools is datamined info directly from the current version of the game.

[brazen valley]

Crafting beginner here. What's roughly the time to start using rune of shattering? E.g. at level 20 most drops you find even with the right affixes will only be T1/T2. Is it worth shattering them to simplify the early game? Or better safe the runes for later gear with stronger affixes?

I understand the mechanics but am just looking for some rules of thumb in the decision making

[desert tree]

Maybe lvl 20 is a bit early
Unless you fix an affix you really need, if for exemple you are a bleed build you probably want to have a few extra chance to bleed avaible if you want to craft a new weapon

[formal parcel]

other than stash tabs, you'll mostly just buy runes of shattering whenever you can. so use them at about the rate you can replenish them imo

later on, with better items, and by the point you have better understanding of builds, you'll be shifting to using removal more often

[brazen valley]

Cheers, this helps for now

[ashen grail]

Question if i change LBs base dmg to cold does that changes spark charges base dmg to cold too if it is applied by LB ?

[desert tree]

No, Spark Charge stays lightning

[ashen grail]

sadge ty

[fickle mantle]

what's the trade off in using dual weapon vs 2h weapons?

because in my newbie eyes, I feel dual weapon is better because it can give double the stats but can any veterans enlighten me on this?

[wanton copper]

Different affixes on 2h compared to 1h and in most(all?) cases you get a dmg taken penalty for dual wielding

[fickle mantle]

are the 2h affixes statistically better?

[low coyote]

They have stronger ranges.

[low coyote]

I wonder though, how the 2 weapons vs 1 weapon works wrt hits per second

[fickle mantle]

this is very helpful, thanks

[low coyote]

Do you hit with both weapons when you use a skill, or only the main hand? Will you get double the number of "on-hit" effects?

[wanton copper]

Yeah higher top ends and different affix options. Generally DW is the play unless your build needs something from a 2h affix or a skill/passive requires a 2h weapon/Staff etc.

[surreal verge]

Both, attack/cast speed is avg of both.

[low coyote]

It would make ailment builds OP

[surreal verge]

BUt it only counts as a hit

It does stack the % chances tho.
So if you have 2 50% armour shred on hit, it's treated as 1 100% armour shred on hit

[low coyote]

It does look though that overall you will do more DPS with 2-one handers.

[surreal verge]

In paper, since at max roll duals have a bit higher %s

But that means you'll need two affixes instead of one

[low coyote]

2x210% increased cold damage > 1 384% cold damage, and you have higher attack speed.

[surreal verge]

Yeah the downside is "You need two of those"

WHich, in the context of a exalted...

[wanton copper]

ez rune of creation

[low coyote]

Yeah, never said it was easy :p

And that

[surreal verge]

Literally the top 2 reason to use creations.
And only reason(s)

[low coyote]

Though, you rarely want 2 of the exact same things, normally axe+sword (warpath sentinel) or some other combo, but sometimes dual sword will work for you

[trim estuary]

will it be possible to try out the league that's coming with 1.0 while playing offline?

[surreal verge]

Considering the league is all standard things and there is no cycle mechanic, yes.

[trim estuary]

oh my bad. I thought it launched with it's first cycle. Thank you.

[surreal verge]

There IS a cycle.
There's nothing special about it.

[fickle mantle]

quick question, is there an affix for mana leech same way as there is for life leech?

[low coyote]

No

Mana recovery is much tighter controlled than life recovery.

[fickle mantle]

good to know

[hidden ether]

so are there any pinnacle bosses in this game? like after beating all the monoliths or something maybe?

i'm talking about things like Eater, Exarch, Sirus, Maven, Elder, etc if you know about Path of Exile

i've done 3 or 4 monoliths now but don't even know what happens when I beat them

[sharp harbor]

what level do i have to be to get Doublet of Onos Tull and do you have to do the island on end of time

[icy drift]

Not yet no

[hidden ether]

have they mentioned adding some at some point?

[icy drift]

They'll be adding them in future cycles yes

[hidden ether]

nice

[icy drift]

They've already started conceptualizing them

[hidden ether]

oh if i need a unique that exclusively drops from a monolith boss, can i do that monolith boss again? do i need to do the whole monolith again?

like heart of unkheiros

[surreal verge]

You can only fight the boss when you have the stability for it, so yes (Beating the boss costs the amount of stability it would have costed to do the fight)

[hidden ether]

oh i see

[low coyote]

When you get to Empowered Monoliths, you will do bosses quite regularly. You no longer have to repeat the first 2 quests, and you get a lot more stability by doing monos further from the starting point and at higher corruptions. The boss comes around quite regularly then.

[hidden ether]

so the number of echoes i need to do to reach the boss decreases?

in the normal monoliths its quite a few echoes, seems like 7 or 8

[surreal verge]

Just a little bit.

Like 1 or 2 less

[elfin ermine]

is there an actual unarmed build? 👀

[hidden ether]

i have a bunch of keys in my chest for like dungeons and the arena. are those worth doing? or should i just keep chugging on with monoliths? i don't think the game has quite explained yet what I get from using the keys at a big dungeon

[surreal verge]

Dungeons normally have a special reward and dungeon boss-only drops.
Do so if you need them.

[surreal verge]

Only for that skill, and it's... okay I guess.

[hidden ether]

oh cool

didnt know they had like special stuff in them

does this mean i have to pick between the two of them?

like i can't unlock both?

[low coyote]

you can unlock both

but I wouldn't do that, I'd just keep going to the higher ones until you coplete the 3 level 90 ones, as once you do that, all the other optional ones will also unlock.

[hidden ether]

oh i accidentally got the lower lvl one since i didn't know which was which

so do i not need to do every individual monolith unless i need a boss drop from it or something? is it better to just rush to the highest level ones possible?

[wicked plover]

once you've done the lvl 90 ones you unlock empowered monoliths, thats where the juice is

also at some point you will want to run each one for their respective blessings to smoothen out your build

[hidden ether]

oh right i forgot about the blessings

do you get a new blessing if you do a monolith for a second time?

or do you only get a blessing your first time

[wicked plover]

you get a choice of 3-5 options

everytime

and empowered monos give stronger versions

[cedar locust]

You'll also need 200 corruption to unlock the 5th Blessing slot

[low coyote]

But really only once you get to empowered, as the basic blessings are less than ideal.

And yeah, 200

[wicked plover]

in most cases yes, but if you are struggling to keep up with the difficulty increase and still working out your build another blessing might be helpful here and there, espeically as beginner

[low coyote]

The normal monos are little more than an extended tutorial

[hidden ether]

where is the boss called "Stone Titan's Heart?" I Googled that and didn't see anything about where to fight it. I need some unique boots it drops

[wicked plover]

thats the lightless arbour dungeon boss

[cedar locust]

Foot of the Mountain? You'll want Lightless Arbor Tier 2

[hidden ether]

yeah its Foot of the Mountain

What does Tier 2 mean?

Is there some way to power up the dungeon or something?

[cedar locust]

So each dungeon has 4 tiers, beat tier 1 to get to tier 2 and so on

[hidden ether]

oh cool

[cedar locust]

Each Tier can have different rewards, Tier 2 Lightless Arbor has the boots you need for example.

Also Dungeons have Daily Modifiers, which affect loot drops or shop inventory. If you want to look into it I can send you some links, though it's also fun to just play it through at least once 🙂

[low coyote]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/dungeons

All you ever needed to know about Dungeons but were afraid to ask

https://tenor.com/view/christian-grey-serious-jamie-dornan-gif-14073384

[toxic echo]

But they did ask tho. Multiple time.

[desert tree]

Anyone know what happen if you DW for your Forged Weapons ?

[hidden ether]

are dungeons made easier with multiple people or is there party scaling?

[desert tree]

Party scaling

[hidden ether]

i'm struggling with damage in there, i think my slot machine runemaster kind of sucks

[desert tree]

Same one during maps

[hidden ether]

oh i see

[cedar locust]

You might need to make some small tweaks to your build to get damage up, though you can try the time-honoured method of Running around a lot

[wicked sinew]

Hi, any settings Tipps for the rog ally z1 extreme?

[cedar locust]

It's how I beat Majasa while still fixing my build 😅

[cedar locust]

What issues are you running into? I'm not too familiar with that handheld

[wicked sinew]

Low fps on low settings in game

[cedar locust]

Is it constant low fps or does it drop in certain areas?

[wicked sinew]

Constant

[cedar locust]

Just checking the specs now

[cedar locust]

So from a quick look into it, the Z1 Extreme can suffer from a GPU bottleneck due to the lack of VRAM, which leads a few owners to upgrade the GPU or buy external GPUs.

Last Epoch can be RAM hungry at times, which may be the cause of this, however the team has been working on this for 1.0!

I'm not sure how this handheld works, are you running anything else in the background while the game is open?

[wicked sinew]

No there is running nothing in the background. I hope they optimize it☺️ you think more vram or lower the vram (actually at 6gb)?

[hidden ether]

is the vault thing after dungeons the best way of spending gold for gear?

[desert tree]

Best and only

[cedar locust]

You can try verifying the files or adjust the console settings - though you might need to look into the latter yourself.

Not sure what you mean about vram, sorry

[brazen valley]

Can I use the ingame loot filter to recolor glyphs and sharts? I don't see the option under filter -> item type

[surreal verge]

No

[brazen valley]

That's a shame. Ty for answering.

[surreal verge]

You'll want to pick all of them up anyway-

[brazen valley]

Yea, just wanted to make them stand out more

[surreal verge]

[indigo dagger]

Hi guys, I've had a problem since last week. I can't play online. When I try to connect to my online char, it tries for 5 seconds and bounces back or doesn't respond at all.

What I have tried to fix:

• Reinstall
• Repair Steam tool
• new character
• offline -> log in online

[cedar locust]

Which server are you on? Can you try selecting a different one?

[indigo dagger]

i play on EU West and tried US West, East etc

nothing helped

[cedar locust]

Have you submitted any in game bug reports when this happens?

[indigo dagger]

yes, but it worked after 3th time. Got the Connection error.

[cedar locust]

It worked - as in your character loaded? Was this just for one online character or all of them?

If you let me know your Account name, I can link that report to mine!

[indigo dagger]

sure, give me a min

[hidden ether]

do the rewards/mods get better/harder the further out you go on a monolith? or is it just completely random

[toxic echo]

mods get harder, corruption gets bigger numbers. i think the unique/set nodes spawn more often the farther you are away(but is fairly negligable), but the actual reward rock doesnt get changed at all, since it drops in the safe spot

[surreal verge]

The TLDR is yes.

[indigo dagger]

send it via pm

[hidden ether]

can someone join a random echo in the imddle of my monolith?

lagon the boss from the level 75 mono is owning me lol

i mean like is it possible? not asking you guys specifically haha

[kind sonnet]

Whenever I want to craft my unique into a legendary, does my exalted item need to be the same item class as my unique? I.E: 2H Mace on another 2H Mace, or can it be any 2H item class on my 2H mace?

[sinful laurel]

Same base item

[kind sonnet]

Thanks Prime!

[frail knot]

Can experimental affixes be shattered? If not, is the Exiled Mage even worth killing in most cases?

[surreal verge]

No,
But it's the only source of some uniques, and the only source to get the items that WOULD allow you to craft an experimental affix onto other things.

[toxic echo]

they cannot be shattered into shards, but, they can still drop as up to t7 affixes. and then you can rune or research and seal that affix...and still craft on it. and as kzb said above, other uniques and insight glyphs, to allow you to put experimentals on your own gear

[frail knot]

Ah, so you can get those affixes onto other gear then. I thought the only way to do that would be to shatter.

Ok - not as useless as I was thinking it was! Thank you Kzb & Eagles.

[signal crystal]

Hello. Just a question for someone who'd love to start playing LE. I'm just curious how difficult/easy it is to transition from a leveling build to an endgame one? Currently checking maxroll guides for leveling build and there are couple, but there's like a shitton of endgame ones, and I don't know if I should just jump into the deep water with an endgame build and make it work on the way or just go for- first but kinda second playthrough-, already had like 20h last year. Or maybe some endgame builds are much more accessible during leveling?

2.5k hours in PoE and a lot i D3 so yeah, I'm not as fresh, just curious about this game's side of builds.

[toxic echo]

respeccing is crazy easy. prolly take like 5 minutes and 5k gold? maybe

[surreal verge]

Easy. Except char and subclass pick, all are respecable. And mostly cost time.

IT's 50k to respec all possible passive points.

And 50k is easy to get.

[toxic echo]

yeah, doubt you doing a full respec tho if follwoing a guide

[signal crystal]

So other than that, all I need to switch builds is appropriate gear if I understand? That's great to know

Thank you guys, that's some good news

[undone nexus]

Building off what Terrorym asked, with respeccing being easy, is there a sense of investment in a particular character? Also with 3k hours of poe, most of that time spent trying new builds only to fail at poe end game. I am both excited about the ability to respec, but also worried on what that end game farm looks like to really stick with a particular character/build.

[dense root]

you can still play one build for a long time if you want to

[toxic echo]

not to poe levels of investment. once you get those 2/3lp drops that are like .00001% and an exalt that drops thats slam worthy, you feel some investment and connection. there are pretty much always some chase gear, or better gear to get if you want. but you can always just stash that gear, and rebuild if you wanted to as well.

getting "good enough" gear is pretty easy (talking t20 gear and no lp uniques) once you are in endgame to jump builds if you wanted to.

[dense root]

@river fulcrum played the same build for the first like year or something

it’s more that you can switch off bad builds easily and have something sort of functional

[undone nexus]

As someone who makes my own builds, that makes me so freakin happy to hear.

I don't need optimal, just functional. Thank you all for the responses

[cedar locust]

You can get far on functional! Might take a bit longer but even 'vibes only' builds can finish the campaign with some slight re-speccing!

[wanton copper]

The maxroll builds in particular clearly say the are intended for someone who is already lvl70+

They won't be very practical to level with. Just FYI, can level with whatever you want ultimately

[river fulcrum]

Ye it's doable as long as you find a skill you love excessively

Not that it's a popular way to play, but the game is well designed for that, you got a lot to min max on a single build

[signal crystal]

Yea I bet there are ways to do this and still be okay but that surely requires some game knowledge, I just went some Forge Guard leveling build, thanks

[gritty sky]

Всем привет

[vital marsh]

how to cast without moving in this game?

[surreal verge]

Check the first option of settings.
Or: Hold Shift (I think)

[vital marsh]

neither works

[steel merlin]

do you keep left click pressed while casting?

[surreal verge]

Check your keybinds, there should be one.

[steel merlin]

kzb, we already have cast wihotut moving

its the default

oh wait unless you cast with the same key you move

which is asking for pain

[vital marsh]

apparently there is no option nor mod or anything

[surreal verge]

There's a setting that makes melee skills move to target before casting as a setting.

Then there's a button that hard forces it.

[steel merlin]

redoxs you have your main skill in your left click right?

[vital marsh]

nope, just holding lmb while moving

[dawn briar]

let go of lmb then

[vital marsh]

and there is no option to stay still while casting at least google says so discord search too

[steel merlin]

literally let go of lmb when casting

[vital marsh]

all the other arpgs have option liek this

never seen one without it

[surreal verge]

There is.
You're just overridding it.

[vital marsh]

all the other that i personally tested, played

[surreal verge]

Well, how hard is it to not hold down left mouse button?

[steel merlin]

hell, game doesnt even wait until the character stops moving, but inmediately stops to cast

[vital marsh]

its hard when u have 5k hours holding button while playing poe

[dense root]

me, manually holding down the move button 24/7: why is my character moving

[vital marsh]

and tbh i dont want to click my fingers to death without reason

[steel merlin]

im so confused

i dont even notice the change when switching games

[dense root]

same

[dawn briar]

click your fingers to death ? are you playing a fast action rpg like doom or quake or last epoch ?

I see your point but I found it little exaggerate

[steel merlin]

im getting ingame to check right now because im baffled

[vital marsh]

idk for me its unplayable feels like shit

or will try with controller later mouse is big nono

[steel merlin]

you mean the stutter step between attacks?

[wicked plover]

stop holding left click and you dont move while casting

[gritty sky]

hi all i know russia language

[steel merlin]

??

[dawn briar]

there is none stutter step is you moving by holding lmb xD

[steel merlin]

well i dont know how to call it

but yes, the movement between casts

[dawn briar]

Yes, if you force lmb + abilities your character whill move in the direction you hold and it will cancel the walking animation

[pastel pebble]

Yeah, it looks like a stuttering step

IDK what the problem Is NGL

[steel merlin]

i love the stutter step when going through packs personally

[pastel pebble]

Do you mean like the shift+casting or whatever button it is that holds you still as you cast?

[pastel pebble]

I use it all the time when meleeing

[dense root]

it is shift by default yeah

[steel merlin]

there is no hold to cast because we already hold to cast

[pastel pebble]

Can we hold hands to cast?

[dense root]

only if they’re healing hands

[wide sentinel]

same tbh stutter step is just better than stationary cast especially in this game since u need to dodge a lot

[pastel pebble]

Stutter step saves lives

[wide sentinel]

facts

[dawn briar]

But yes another point playing 4500+ hours in a game feel different in another, imagine if all game looks and feel the same ? just boring

So if you don't enjoy it you have a free solution xD

[steel merlin]

days currently ingame checking for shift hold setting

[pastel pebble]

Why isn't this game gonna be PoE 1.5?

Why no painful trade systems?

[dense root]

i’m in the office so no

[pastel pebble]

SMH

[dense root]

they don’t pay me if i don’t show up at least occasionally

it’s pretty rough tbh

[hybrid hazel]

I got the same experience on steamdeck

[pastel pebble]

Ye, its a current bug. I believe it's being fixed with the big 1.0 patch

Only reason we're not seeing it fixed is 1.0 being right around the corner so they're trying to not put out a bunch of little patches

[ocean flax]

hello

how to link item in chat?

[toxic echo]

Ctrl right click...item name should populate in the chat

[solid tartan]

Anyone know if flat reductions to mana cost apply first or percentage reductions?

I imagine it's flat then percentage

[surreal verge]

Correct

[solid tartan]

Cool thanks

[glacial owl]

Hey everyone! I'm new to the game, started playing couple of days ago as a sorcerer (now lvl 65) and I was wondering if the classes are balanced? I was looking at the ladder, and it seems like the Mage and Acolyte are pretty OP compared to other classes. I tried playing a sentinel for a very short time and I felt like I was doing much less damage while being melee and barely more tanky.

Is it worth it to play the other classes or are they just not super viable late game?

[surreal verge]

Arena is a different beast, made with builds made just for arena.

In standard end game, the tops are wider:
Necromancers, BladeDancers, Runemasters, Druids....

[icy drift]

all classes can do all content and push reasonably far (all of them can go to 1000 corruption but most people don't really get past 300)

[glacial owl]

Ok, great to hear! Thank you both 🙂

[wide sentinel]

sentinel is one of the less tanky classes for sure

[lost delta]

Which is completely bonkers to me.

[surreal verge]

It's hilarious.

[wide sentinel]

it is

and it has been like that for years pretty much

[lost delta]

Yup, insanity.

[wide sentinel]

now its a bit better but you can get tanky only with high gear requirments

[buoyant sinew]

it's sort of understandable. sentinel has the most straightforward access to the "obvious" tank stats like health stacking, armour, block...but these are just weaker than random weird defensive layers

[wide sentinel]

and even then...its worse

[lost delta]

Yeah, I see that, but they REALLY need to make them tankier.

[buoyant sinew]

absolutely

[wide sentinel]

main issue is armor...like no matter how u see it mages should not have same armor benefits as sentinel it is mindboggling

after they reworked armor its all downhill

class would be totally fine if it could reach for example 80% armor dr while other classes would sit at 60% max with investment

[buoyant sinew]

block isn't that great either compared to the investment it needs, health stacking is currently bad, etc, etc...

[wide sentinel]

ya block requirments to be viable is insane

and also heavily limits build variety

if no block idols u arent tanky

[buoyant sinew]

and you need to lean heavily on unique shields for block chance

[wide sentinel]

yep you need 1lp shields

with t7 block chances

[buoyant sinew]

or cradle, or I guess still maaaaaaaybe bastion for some builds

[wide sentinel]

i mean cradle is bad on sentinel, unlesss you go warpath? i think

bastion is very good on sent

you can get 100% block nearby and 50% block from ranged, in game its still strong

[faint cape]

Cradle is good on anything imo

[wide sentinel]

idk i think its good only if u have over 50% dodge or playing mobile char that manually avoids a lot of attacks

but craddle is op for ranged builds for sure, you dont get hit much and you can scale block effect just from resistances

not as good as old bastion but its up there in terms of effectivness and again makes sentinel weaker compared to other classes

[neon compass]

Marksman, Level 73 (Beta 0.9.2f)

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Class:

Rogue (31) / Marksman (55)

General:

▸ Health: 787, Regen: 18/s
▸ Mana: 95, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 50 Dex / 9 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 77% / 102% / 94% / 63% / 47% / 83%
▸ EHP: 1,843 / 1,843 / 1,843 / 1,993 / 1,648 / 1,438 / 1,843

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 157
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (697)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (585)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Physical / Bow, Throwing, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flurry (20)
• Smoke Bomb (20)
• Shift (20)
• Decoy (20)
• Detonating Arrow (20)

Used unique items:

None

[steep musk]

Been buying rune of shattering from npc vendor but they're not in my inventory

Is this like a bug or something?

[unreal hawk]

check if they are in your material stash

[static stirrup]

hey guys just getting into the game and found this while leveling, is this something that would be worth spending a glyph of despair on or should i save any of those i get for purple items?

doing aura of despair lich currently for reference

[toxic echo]

save em for purples. especially with only 20 fp on that item. that despair might just take it all. better to just hope that one up enough

and really should never despair while leveling.

[steep musk]

Nope I have exactly zero in my inventory after buying almost 40 of them

[unreal hawk]

Well damn

[toxic echo]

make sure you are shift +rmb, so they show up in the inventory. if you shift +lmb, it stays on your cursor, and then you just end up selling them back to the shop basically

[steep musk]

Let me check one of the shop if there in the buy back thingy

[steep musk]

Yep that was it

Such a waste of gold

[toxic echo]

i do it everytime i come back to LE and forget the shortcut keybinds. lol

[steep musk]

I didn't notice because I was saving them for later so I didn't check how many I had

[frank wasp]

does this stack up if you have multiple decoys?

[faint cape]

If they're all on the buyback, you didn't waste any gold at least

[low coyote]

Buyback is full price, not what you sold it for

So yeah, money was lost.

[faint cape]

Hm? It should be exactly what you sold for. A lot of things don't even have a "full price"

[low coyote]

Okay

[flint laurel]

What patch are we currently on?

[candid elm]

0.9.2L https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/patch-notes/39

[low coyote]

I had to check this, and there's something wonkey going on, but you are right that in the end, money isn't lost

[faint cape]

Interesting, wait, what's the wonky thing?

[low coyote]

I'll post a bug report, the buyback price in the vendor shows 2k for a rune of shattering

And when you buyback, your money drops by 2k but goes back up by 1800.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqKuXxDuMlQ

[faint cape]

Very odd indeed! I guess it kinda turns out to be a visual bug only, but also quite confusing

[low coyote]

Well, there's more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M25SE1IanlQ

Super rare edge case, but if you can't afford the buyback, the item vanishes.

Here was me hoping I'd cause a integer overflow for infinte money.

[modest shale]

Anyone having connection problems? I can't log in because it says the server has too many users trying to log in

[lusty rover]

how effective are passive nodes like 'elementalist' in mage tree?

[native sail]

Gonna have to post it, usually only a handful of passives are known by name and that's because they're tip-top most of the time.

[native sail]

Pretty mild, wouldn't go out of my way to use it

[sinful laurel]

I don't think I've ever taken that node

[buoyant sinew]

there's not really a reason to when arcanist is right there

[lusty rover]

I Did put some in arcantist, does it scale better?

[buoyant sinew]

well each point of intelligence gives skills that scale damage of intelligence 4% increased damage

every single mage skill scales off intelligence

so it's still giving you damage, and then intelligence also gives ward retention (critical for most mage builds) and there are various passives and items that give bonuses based on intelligence too

and it gives you a decent amount of res, which is nice to have

so overall it's waaaaaaaaay better than elementalist. the only reason I'd put points in elementalist is if you don't want to take anything in the next column and don't want life/mana either

I think every mage I've ever made has put 7 or 8 points in arcanist

[sinful laurel]

I.e. no reason to lol

[lusty rover]

thank you for the input

[static stirrup]

are you supposed to be able to get one shot through reaper form?

[native sail]

Yes. If it was straight up one shot protection it would be dramatically overpowered. So yes, you can get one tapped through it.

[surreal verge]

Yes, all it does is give you a second health bar.

[empty wedge]

I’m still working my way up to empowered monoliths, but once I get them I read the guide on maxroll and it says they start at 100 corruption and have no cap. Does corruption ever go down?

[sinful laurel]

Yes. An echo adjacent to the starting node

Let's you drop corr if you need to

[empty wedge]

Nice. Thank you. After reading that guide I was pretty confused. I thought maybe it just kept going up.

[sinful laurel]

You have to choose to raise it

It doesn't just happen

[supple moat]

https://i.imgur.com/wFgerlr.png

How does the glyph of despair works? Does it only work on the affix that I'm trying to upgrade or any random affix

is there chance for me to move that cast speed or spell damage with it?

they are both max ranked so I cant upgrade them

[surreal verge]

Only works on the affix you’re upgrading.
Lower affix tier=higher odds of sealing

[supple moat]

ah okay I see, so best I can do is reroll the values to upgrade this weapon

[hallow basin]

Is there a Ignite calculator for the game. Want to see how all the different variables effect it.

[desert tree]

I don't think so

[hallow basin]

Last Epoch tools doesn't calcualte Fire Pen at all doesn't it?

[desert tree]

No

But it's quite simple, pen and duration are like more dmg multiplier

And Increase is as usual

And you need to take into account the more dmg from your skill tree too

[hallow basin]

Do you know if the cals for pen are correct in this post?

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/damage-penetration-diminishing-returns/40274

[desert tree]

No because they assume monster have resistance

Unless you have given them resist with an echo mod they have 0

[hallow basin]

I'm trying to napkin math calculate if trying to go for the Rune master sword with 20% pen is worth it for my ignite blade dancer.

Planning on trying to make a "perfect character" for merchants guild.

[desert tree]

Well then yes but it's because the sword is bugged rn 😂😂

[hallow basin]

Oh I didn't know that. Thought they had 75% might be getting it mixed up with poe or something

[hallow basin]

What's the bug?

Just pen stat not working? I'm only using it for pen.

[desert tree]

Atm the Ele pen is x7 the amount written

[hallow basin]

Wait what

How TF did they fuck that one up lol

[native sail]

Not the only one like that. It's all generic ele pen iirc.

[hallow basin]

Do you mean it's 7x or 0.7x the intended value?

[native sail]

It's 7 times the listed value.

[hallow basin]

And it's been like this since the latest big patch?

[desert tree]

Yeah

Though I expect it to be fix at 1.0

[hallow basin]

I feel like that's the type of thing that should be fixed as fast as possible lol. So many people are going to be playing their build on 1.0 that worked last patch and wonder why their damage is so low

[native sail]

Every bug patch they release extends the amount of work and time needed for 1.0, eventually you reach a point where you kinda have to accept where things are at and wait to fix it for the big patch

[hallow basin]

Fair enough

It could be a harder fix than I imagine too

[desert tree]

Anyway back to your question
1% pen is 1% more dmg
1% duration is 1% more dmg
Different multiplier

[hallow basin]

What about those more damage multipliers versus adding another stack on an ailment?

[native sail]

Considering how boss pushing was fixed and returned, and the same for toggle Warpath, and a few other things, yeah. Some stuff definitely seems harder to permanently fix.

[hallow basin]

Is there a community list or anything of all of these big bugs that effect builds by chance?

[native sail]

I don't think so? At least not that I know of

[desert tree]

Not that I am aware of

[desert tree]

That's a bit tricky
Depends on what skill you will be using, does it have some ignite chance already, or some pen/duration. What is your hit rate. Maybe AS would be better.

But imo 8/10 you want as much chance to ignite on your weapon

Ignite pen you can find on boots (unique)

You will probably that sword with lp (ignite +as or ignite +bleed and you take the conversion gloves) and a firestarter Torch with lp too

[severe burrow]

I am levelling a marksman, first in a long time - usually play casters. The build feels horrible, it's got enough movement and damage but it's really hard to hit stuff with arrows. They sail past the enemies regardless of where I hover over the enemy body. Sometimes I need to position to get a more linear line so that it hits. it's like the hit box feels off. Am I dreaming this, is this by design or is this a bug?

[native sail]

Is it Detonating Arrow or Flurry? Both of those have a bug rn where they can just not hit

[severe burrow]

yeah detonating arrow ... ok thanks maybe level something else then.

[hallow basin]

Yeah I've played the build for a long time so I know it pretty well. Have gotten it to 600 corruption. Don't think fire Starters is worth it. Swords have a lot of benefits such as the chest affix that gives bleed per sword, the idol with bleed per sword more damage in SD node, bleed per sword in BD tree etc.

Swords also are a great source of dodge%.

Even with the shield variation I think a sword will be better. Curently planning on using two 3-4lp Rainbow Edge for the 25-75% ignite chance and then I can roll dodge chance as a full t5 affix. But an exalted sword with t3-4 dodge or ignite/bleed and a Nagasa base is probably better at the very high end. Just getting a base with all of that to line up is fucking awful.

Fire Starters for leveling and early monos is great though.

[desert tree]

Firestarter is a good amount of dmg.
It got more fire dmg

[hidden ether]

is there any way to farm specific dungeon keys?

the monolith echo key reward makes it seem like you only get arena keys from that

still really need Foot of the Mountain

[native sail]

Not specific, no. The bosses in monos always drop at least one dungeon key though.

[hidden ether]

oh cool, i didn't know they always dropped one

better than nothing

also i keep getting this error whenever I try to log into my Runemaster. It gives me [LE-65] error until I log into my other character, log out, then log back in with the Runemaster

it has happened three days in a row now

[native sail]

that's.... interesting. Try a different server maybe?

[hidden ether]

tried to google the error code but didnt find anything

ill try a dif server, didnt think of that

[native sail]

Weird amount of stuff that gets fixed by just connecting to a different server. Like recently there's been a bunch of people whose games have been crashing as soon as they login to a character but if they just swap servers it's perfectly fine.

[supple moat]

what is empowered monoliths?
is it enabled after I clear all monolith timelines

[native sail]

It's enabled after you clear the three level 90 ones and return to the island connecting them. Empowered monos are all level 100 with 100 corruption at base and no maximum corruption.

[supple moat]

ty

I'm just level 80 and doing 90 monos now, so after it is done I should be able to see them

[native sail]

Yeah, just make sure you go click the shiny thing on the middle island after you finish them, people often forget that

[hidden ether]

for this quest, is it asking me to do blood frost and death monolith again but just pick the different option than i did last time? or do i have to find the other clan in a differet monolith? i cant really tell

[native sail]

Just pick the one you didn't pick last time. If you're unsure which it is it'll tell you a level of monolith you unlock in the dialogue box, cross-reference with your map and see if you have the path leading to it or not.

[supple moat]

does the item level range on Gamble npc limited to max lv 40 ?

all the items says level 1-40

[native sail]

Yeah, it's capped at 40. There's a different gambler at the end of Soulfire Bastion that isn't limited in item level except by what tier of the dungeon you run, it also takes a specialized currency that resets every run (it is still much better than the gold gambling NPC in the town).

[supple moat]

ty

[opal nest]

Does "Less Damage Taken" from this ring stack if u equip 2 of this ring? assuming you have the 180 stats requirement

[native sail]

Yes

[opal nest]

i see ty for the info

[native sail]

It's multiplicative like all DR sources though

[opal nest]

noted

[hidden ether]

how do i know if i can craft on a unique to make it a legendary? says i can't do it on this one

[native sail]

You need legendary potential, and it's not crafted per se.

Lemme grab the link I always use

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

Give that a quick glance, it's quicker and probably clearer than me typing up a paragraph on it

[hidden ether]

oh so it will say "legendary potential" on it if you can upgrade it, i see

[supple moat]

does armor shred work on elemental attacks too ?

[native sail]

Yes. Armor works on any hits, it is 70% effectiveness against non-physical damage, so armor shred does give elemental hits damage

[supple moat]

ty

and one more question ^^
is there any way to modify/craft idols?

[native sail]

Unfortunately no. It's what makes good ones incredibly hard to get.

[hidden ether]

someone in the game chat mentioned that you can kill the boss of a monolith back to back with bonus stability or something? is that only for an enhanced monolith? killing the boss of a regular monolith just consumes all my stability

[native sail]

Bosses only consume as much stabilty as it takes to challenge them, you can hold up to two boss fights worth of stability on both normal and empowered (please do not farm bosses before empowered, the rates are intrinsically better in empowered)

The bar doesn't look like you can hold that much, I know

[hidden ether]

oh

do you need like a super optimized character to be able to do all regular monoliths up to 90 to unlock the empowered ones?

[native sail]

Nah, not at all.

It's best if your build is cohesive but base empowered aren't that bad and as long as your build is functional, makes sense, and not using one of the outright bad skills you're probably fine.

[hidden ether]

i guess i will see when i get there, kind of doing what i feel like is probably a meme build but its real fun

[hidden ether]

i just got this dropped

what does that weird looking weavers will thing mean?

[native sail]

So, Weaver's Will gains affixes as you kill enemies one tier at a time equal to the amount of Weaver's Will on the item.

It has a higher weighting to upgrade an affix instead of add a new one

[hidden ether]

is arena like an endless dungeon with rooms that get harder and harder?

[wicked plover]

theoretically yes, though there is no bigger picture in rewards as you would have them in dungeons
arena is just waves of enemies getting stronger and see how far you get

[native sail]

It also has kinda different scaling so the builds between there and normal gameplay are usually different

[knotty tinsel]

has weaver's will still not been added to the in game guide?

[native sail]

Nope

[fickle mantle]

what's the best monolith for glyphs?

[native sail]

Whichever is fastest for you.

[supple moat]

is there any tier 1+ affixes for idols ?
I've never seen anything higher than tier 1

[fickle mantle]

is there no monoliths that has higher chance to show specific nodes?

[native sail]

Nope, T1 only.

[native sail]

Nope. Outside of their listed exclusive nodes (like Blood, Frost, and Death has unique body armor nodes) they all can get the same stuff at the same rate.

[fickle mantle]

i see, thanks

[native sail]

No prob.

If you're hunting glyphs and have a couple million gold to spare I'd recommend trying Lightless Arbor

[fickle mantle]

why does the gold matter?

[native sail]

Lightless Arbor needs you to spend gold to juice up chests inside of a vault and it gets pretty expensive (but worth it if you land the right things)

[fickle mantle]

oh I see, I'll take note of that and do that when I get millions to spare

[cedar locust]

Hi, are you still having this issue?

[candid pagoda]

Hi, how trade between 2 players work(not in a group), can you trade items and gold directly with no restrictions?

in new feb update

[olive tinsel]

It will essentially be the same as trading the item via the Bazaar. The system determines a favor cost for selling and buying and the seller can choose a price.

Only items without CoF requirement can be traded and the item will get a MG tag after the trade and will no longer be tradeable.

[candid pagoda]

ty

[faint cape]

Fyi, the trade restriction is a little different now. There is another tag for items, 'untradeable'. All items dropped while in CF are untradeable, but only items directly created or affected by CF bonuses will get the CF requirement.

[supple moat]

is it game over if you die in the dungeon?

[candid elm]

Yes, you have to start over with another key

[olive tinsel]

Yes, you need another key and another attempt

[supple moat]

what is the efficient way to do dungeons, do I try to clear it all for the soul embers?

or just rush through

[olive tinsel]

Depends on the dungeon. If you are farming for multiple item types clearing a lot is worth it in Soulfire Bastion.

If you only want a few specific item types, clearing like half of it is usually enough.

You should definitely always check both door modifiers on each floor

[toxic echo]

for soulfire, yes, clear everything for max souls. for the other two, rush the boss

[olive tinsel]

@supple moat another tip towards farming Soulfire Bastion, wait until there is a really desired Daily Modifier. These will cause the gambler to always have a bunch of specific item types in Stock. If you spare all your keys and do run them all when that modifier is a item type that you really want a good exalted or unique for its really worth it

[candid elm]

You can check the daily dungeon modifiers here https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/dungeons

[supple moat]

oh thanks alot, didnt know that

is the layout for dungeons always same or do they change ?

[faint cape]

The map itself is always the same, but there are walls/obstructions that are randomized each time you run them. (Like Grim Dawn, if you've ever played that)

and the door bonuses offered are random each run out of a pool, visible in the LE Tools link as well

[supple moat]

tyty

1 more question ^^
do you lose your soul embers if you go do some other activity like monoliths etc?

[native sail]

Yes

They may bug out and still show up, but ignore it if so, they don't carry across runs

[supple moat]

I entered the dungeon 2 times and died

but never lost them

so it is just a ui bug

[native sail]

Yeah. That happens sometimes.

Every dungeon has some little visual thing there that sometimes just doesn't feel like leaving

[supple moat]

for some reason, I always lagged at one point in the dungeons and died

never happened in other aspects of the game though

[native sail]

If it happens consistently it may be worth a relog or verify files

[royal gate]

Sometimes the game drops an item whose title is Beer...? What is this? I pick it up but can't find it in my inventory.

[candid elm]

It's a health potion. Just a fun Easter egg type of thing

[fickle mantle]

okay, i've fought this damn dragon 3 times now and beat him first time and yet I'm not advancing on my quest...

what is wrong with emperor of corpses fight?

[native sail]

If it's the monolith quests and you don't have unopened paths from that mono, ignore it. The text bugs. If you can advance to the level 90s just do it.

[fickle mantle]

that's the thing, I can't advance.

after I beat him, he drops loot then nothing else happens

no blessings, no next monolith path opened

[dense root]

weird

[native sail]

that's the first I've ever heard of it

[cedar locust]

Can you try verifying your steam files for me?

[surreal verge]

You're not on multiplayer right?

[fickle mantle]

yeah I'm on multiplayer, decided to get killed by him and then try again and that somehow worked

[surreal verge]

I hope you had the stability.

[fickle mantle]

had to run like a few more nodes

really was quite frustrating because i technically didn't finish the fight the first few times so I lost stability "retreating"

[surreal verge]

Yeahhh. In multiplayer you can get dragged into the monolith boss fight without the required stability, which results in no boss-unique drops and no blessings.

NORMALLY the host gets a warning if they do this.

[fickle mantle]

oh no no no, when I said "i'm on multiplayer" i mean I'm playing online but I play solo.

[surreal verge]

Ahhh

[fickle mantle]

I honestly don't know how it happened or how to recreate the bug again because it was really random.

[faint cape]

Never heard of that, if you haven't restarted the game since it last failed, highly recommend an in game bug report to capture your player log file!

[cedar locust]

If you have only reloaded the game once - you can still submit an in game bug report so the team can look into it!

[faint cape]

Oh, can/does the in game thing also snatch the previous log file, too? 👀

[olive tinsel]

The game keeps 2 logs. The current playsession and the last play session

[faint cape]

Yeah, I was just under the assumption it would only grab the current one, I'll update my recommendations if it grabs the other one, too (the in game bug report tool, that is)

[olive tinsel]

If you want to report a crash it would be useless if it only submits the log of the current playsession (after starting the game again)

[faint cape]

Yeah, very good reason it should grab the previous log!

[cedar locust]

Now you've got me wondering - I'm testing this

[fickle mantle]

just as a heads up I was running Wolves (6max), Warcry totem, Frenzy totem, Swipe for Spirit wolves proc and Leap with vine spawn.

I did notice that I was pushing the boss way too easily

I think what happened was I was somehow getting him out of bounds of the arena?

[cedar locust]

It DOES grab both!

[cedar locust]

Boss pushing is a known bug and not an easy fix, the team are working on this though!

[fickle mantle]

I only ever logged out once so I should still have the log file right?

[cedar locust]

Yep, if the bug happened then you logged out/in once, the files will be there!

[fickle mantle]

where's the file location so i can send it here on the bugreport

[cedar locust]

You can submit the bug report in game (Hit ESC and it's on that menu) and just let me know your Account name here, then I can link them all together!

[hidden mica]

How are health potions generated? I notice they drop from monsters but they can also just spawn while I'm fighting a boss

[native sail]

I think for bosses it's a health gate

[hidden mica]

So nodes like the one in the forge guard tree that give an increased chance to drop a health potion do nothing on bosses?

[native sail]

I don't know that node by memory so unsure

[low coyote]

Where have I seen that before!?

[faint cape]

It's a chance on hit against bosses, on death for other stuff. Much higher chance when you're damaged and/or have less than max potions

[low coyote]

One thing that I feel isn't talked about enough is that the drop-rate of potions is significantly higher if you are not at max potion capacity

[hidden mica]

Tyty, so that node is actually useful on bosses then? Or any increased chance to get potions

[native sail]

Ah, yep. It's a chance on hit. Not sure how much, last reference I could find of it in documentation is a patch note from 0.7.4

[low coyote]

Is it normalised for attack speed?

[native sail]

I guess so? It seems kinda weird

[low coyote]

Mike's probably watching you play and presses a button when he thinks you should get a potion.

[faint cape]

Mike seems to think it's not normalized. It does have a max spawn rate though, so maybe that's what that means. #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[native sail]

Weird how vague they are with this

[faint cape]

and not strictly hit based, either, it sounds more 'chance per damage instance' so that it works on DOT ticks

[low coyote]

It's probably just on a cooldown.

[native sail]

Who wants to create the spreadsheet to start gathering potion chance data?

[faint cape]

My interpretation is the two sentences are separate.
rate is not a fixed chance -> higher chance when low health/potions and modifiable with affixes
designed to avoid disparity between fast hitting builds and slow hitting -> has a rate limit or cooldown on drops

[fickle mantle]

@cedar locust Acc Name: Aruno

[steel merlin]

all i knoq is that stacking potion chance isnt enough to use elecoe properly

[faint cape]

Acid flask life

[unique gate]

Hey friends! I have a Necromancer related question.
I specialized my Bone Golem and put points into "Amalgam of Primalists" which gives my nearby Minions 400 Armor.
Now skilled "Twin Golems", splitting my Big Golem into two smol ones. Now, do my Minons get double the armory because I have two golems around?

[faint cape]

No, it does not stack

[unique gate]

Aw, shucks

Well, gotta repsec the point then I guess

[low coyote]

Well, just because you don't get it twice, doesn't mean it's not a decent node

It might be good starting out, once you get gear with a lot of minion health on it, it becomes less valuable.

[faint cape]

smol golem cute

[low coyote]

The real shame is that Aaron's will doesn't give you double smol golems for each +1 golem

Army of smol golems.

[unique gate]

Yes, I currently try to get as big of an army as I can and run with that (It is my first playthrough of Last Epoch and I am an Necro one trick pony in every ARPG LOL)

[faint cape]

If twinned golems doubled your max instead of +1, I would make that build right now

[low coyote]

You'd be unkillable with the health on golem hit node.

[faint cape]

Nah, but it would be very nice recovery which is often hard for minion builds

[unique gate]

That is for me historically the biggest problem if my army gets one shotted I am super naked

[faint cape]

That's why I tend to like the fewer, but bigger minion builds in LE, you can make your minions basically invincible that way

[unique gate]

Does anyone have mobility tips for minion necromancers? If I transplant, I transplant away from my minions which leaves me exposed. I specialiced Skeleton mages and used its mobility skill tree to teleport myself with my minions

But it still feels like I am super slow

[faint cape]

The skele mage teleport is a great method. Alternative is transplant with the special boot mod that gives the minions come with you effect

but transplant's minions are junk, so if you want a lot of minions, skele mage saves you a skill spec

[unique gate]

Yes, it was not worth the points despite my goal to have my own trash mob

[steel merlin]

Also haste on transplant on tree

[unique gate]

I think I am going to kick the Transplant spec

[low coyote]

Maybe it's not efficient, but I just don't transplant ahead of my minions.

I'm always using the keybind to move my minions ahead of m.e

[faint cape]

You can get haste on traversal skill use on your boots, that should trigger when you use skelemage to teleport

[reef dagger]

Has any information about Cycles been released so far?

[steel merlin]

My last two Necro builds are melee so I basically headbutt enemies with transplant

[faint cape]

Yes, but what kind of info are you looking for?

[low coyote]

also, I play with a controller, and you can ONLY teansplant to enemies, unless there's no enemies on screen (and no barrells and boxes)

[reef dagger]

Basically anything. I've seen a lot of talk on the factions but what will come with the new Cycles? Do they change anything, how long do they last, etc

[low coyote]

There's really no plans for anything seasonal for the first couple of cycles, I expect they just want to implement ladders as a way to gather more concrete data on class balance.

There might be cycle specific uniques, as a test for making them permenant

[faint cape]

Cycles are a fresh start mechanic basically like seasons/leagues and your characters and stuff from them transition to Legacy when they end. We don't know exact length since it's not set in stone yet, but it'll be roughly industry standard (like 3-4 months). There is no special mechanic or items in the Cycle that aren't in Legacy, and won't be for at least the first few cycles.

[unique gate]

That's a good tip

[steel merlin]

Also the factions are the cycle mechanic

[low coyote]

No they are not

They are available in legacy too

[steel merlin]

...

[faint cape]

Oh yeah, and there is a ladder in the Cycle, but no ladders in Legacy. If you care about that kind of thing - not sure if there will even be any new ladders introduced or if it will just be arena, which not a lot of people care about

[steel merlin]

Factions are considered to be this cycle's mechanic, and the cycles mechanics will be also inmediately in legacy for a few cycles

[low coyote]

Got a link for that? That's like saying Warlock and Facloner are this cycles mechanic... they are just thing being released with launch of 1.0

[faint cape]

It is considered the cycle mechanic, but that doesn't mean it's exclusive to the cycle. It's a slightly different terminology vs PoE

[steel merlin]

I say it this way because people keep asking "we got factions for the general game, but what is the cycle mechanic?" all the time

mike has said it

[faint cape]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[low coyote]

lol

Awesome, thanks.

I stand corrected.

[faint cape]

Super specific answer lol

[low coyote]

someone's got a VERY red face right now.

[humble steeple]

This is the new bug? Filters doesn't work (

[steel merlin]

it doesnt really matter though

[low coyote]

Yeah, nothing should be hidden

Probably hit "N" on the keyboard at some point somehow and everything's hidden.

[steel merlin]

did you try to make the filter rules eugene?

[faint cape]

or press Alt+Z

[low coyote]

I've seen sometimes that everything goes hidden, but I think it's related to using a controller, and not KB&M

Alt+z likely a big culprit, as it's the key combination for the Nvidia overlay also

[humble steeple]

It doesn't matter whether I hide them or not. It is clear that the rules do not work.

[wide sentinel]

im confused you dont have any rules

[low coyote]

Well, not sure what your rules are supposed to do in the screenshot you provided

[wide sentinel]

on the screen shot it says show all items

[faint cape]

The rules you showed specifically do nothing

[low coyote]

Beyond them it's just show everything, and they're all turned off.

[faint cape]

"show all" is the default

[low coyote]

Troll perhaps?

[humble steeple]

But these are a bunch of different rules.

[wide sentinel]

[steel merlin]

yeah, so its a show all with a bunch of show alls

??

[wide sentinel]

i mean either you are trolling or not reading all your rules say the same thing: show all items, which is already happening in game by default

[faint cape]

Any filter that has nothing but show rules has no functionality

because having no filter just shows everything anyway

[wide sentinel]

they arent even different

[humble steeple]

I made a bunch of rules a long time ago, they worked. For various items. Now they look like this. But I can turn this filter on or off, it works. Only editing is not possible.

[wide sentinel]

u literally made same rull 6 times

make a new fliter then cause this one got bugged

[low coyote]

Maybe, MAYBE, they are all copies, but beneath they are different, but the NAME is the same.

[faint cape]

How long ago are we talking here? It might be corrupted or something

[humble steeple]

THESE ARE NOT THE SAME RULES. They are different, they are displayed like this because of a bug.

[low coyote]

That happens to me, if oyu copy a filter, change what it does, but it had a custome name, the custom name doesn't change.

[wide sentinel]

then your fliter got corrupted

[steel merlin]

is there a way to export filter?

[faint cape]

Yes

[steel merlin]

can you do that eugene?

[low coyote]

Can you click into one of the filters and take a screenshot of what's there?

also, probably turn them on by clicking the buttons I highlighted in the red box.

[humble steeple]

Okay, let's not waste time. I understand that you have not encountered this bug.
When I try to exit this menu, I get new empty rules. Of course this is not a bug.

[surreal verge]

#1123698102470189118

[low coyote]

This is why I always video my bugs

[surreal verge]

But without more context we can't TRY to help you.

[steel merlin]

oh

[humble steeple]

Option A, B, C 😅

[steel merlin]

did you relog since the first report?

[faint cape]

Try verifying your files on Steam, but also I think there was another thing for this specific issue

[surreal verge]

Oh your filter broke straight up.

[low coyote]

THat's completely borked

[faint cape]

I believe something in your settings files needs to be deleted... I don't remember what exactly

Where's Ave when we need her?

[low coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/silver-lining-impressed-robert-de-niro-gif-14541556

[steel merlin]

i thought maybe it was the inmortal sentinel bug but thats a primalist

[humble steeple]

OK. I'll write a bug report and verify the files. Unfortunately, I can't create new filters either. This whole menu doesn't work.

[low coyote]

Definitely include that second screenshot, that's a lot better evidence that you dun broke it bad, instead of the first one which just looksl ike you havn't a clue what you're doing.

[humble steeple]

This applies to all characters)

[steel merlin]

it happened once to me but i didnt need to do anything fancy

and i dont remember much about it

[steel merlin]

oh right cant hurt to try

remove the settings file

[low coyote]

RENAME the settings file

Make abackup etc. don't just randomly delete it, incase it's not the problem and oyu want all your old settings back.

[faint cape]

yeh good call

[steel merlin]

oh in this case the settings file is borked

[humble steeple]

I'll try to delete the file. And I’ll make a backup of course.

[steel merlin]

wait no

rename

ah yes

i cant read

[humble steeple]

I made a detailed video on YouTube.

[steel merlin]

but did you try the file thing

also in that folder theres the filters, you can try to open them

[humble steeple]

Yes, there are filters in the folder. All the options are fine.

[vestal heart]

guys i am having issues with multiplayer i am trying to play with my Friend on Asia Servers and i am in the middle-east i keep Getting DC and Crash every 3-5 min any fix or anything i can do

[steel merlin]

try both of you to start the game on the same server

[humble steeple]

I'll try to experiment with the settings

[steel merlin]

like, from character creation

and choose one server inbetween if you are able

[vestal heart]

i tried that even if i play on EU servers still the same thing it crash after DC

[steel merlin]

wait why are you going to the west

[vestal heart]

i tried Reinstalling Verifying everything i end up with same result when i play Multiplayer it DC and game Crashes

[vestal heart]

the Lowest Ping Server for me on Multiplayer

[steel merlin]

if you party with someone else, you move to their server

but as it is right now it is more stable if you start directly on their server and then party

[vestal heart]

yeah i know , i even tried solo same issue

the issue for me is Multiplayer is not working properly idk what to do is there a port i should open or something

[humble steeple]

Removing the settings didn't help. I'll try file verification.

[frail knot]

If doing monos with others, I'm assuming it uses the echo web of the party leader?

[steel merlin]

yes, but the end reward of each echo is random for the rest

[frail knot]

Ok thx

[humble steeple]

Verification didn't help either. Old filters do not work, new filters cannot be created.

[steel merlin]

try removing the filter folder (and storing it somewhere else)

[supple moat]

when you are crafting a legendary item, does it take 1 suffix and 1 prefix from the exalted item or can it take 2x prefix ?

[steel merlin]

can take two prefix

[supple moat]

tyty

and what if there are 2 of the same effixes, lets say lightning dmg on both unique and exalted item

[humble steeple]

I think it works. Perhaps a bug appeared in the structure of the xml file. Thanks for the help. I'll have to make the filters again.

[surreal verge]

Doesn't matter it'll take them

[cedar locust]

Here! Am I too late?

[steel merlin]

kinda

it got solved, but maybe you got a less harsh solution than deleting all filters

[cedar locust]

Sorry, meetings are the bane of every CM/Dev xD

Option A, B, C? Nah, the solve for that is deleting the correct .ini file

[steel merlin]

deleting the ini file didnt help

[novel smelt]

Does added damage scaling affect chance to inflict ailments? I see it being a thing with Warpath, but idk if it's universal or only with Warpath

[sinful laurel]

Depends what you mean by added damage scaling

[novel smelt]

This stat

[sinful laurel]

Oh. Generally skills will specifically say their innate chance to inflict ailments

If different than 1

[cedar locust]

Oh this is a lootfilter not an overall Settings menu issue?

Sounds like it got corrupted with age so to speak, depending how many updates/patches have happened since they last used it

[novel smelt]

I see, thanks Primeval

[steel merlin]

i coudl have sworn warpath had ailment penalty

but i cant find it

[sinful laurel]

Look at umbral blades for example

[faint cape]

No, it's a separate stat that does not show up in LE Tools

it does typically line up with the added damage scaling though when it is on a skill, like warpath is 60% damage effectiveness and it has 40% less ailment chance - but it could be set to whatever the devs decide

[steel merlin]

this change to warpath might have removed the penalty, makes sense

[faint cape]

Penalty is there, stat is not on LE Tools

it's explained in skill alt text, which also doesn't show up on LE Tools or TunkLab, because apparently the alt text is stored jankily in the game

[humble steeple]

It still works like a sh )

[steel merlin]

wtf

[humble steeple]

XML bug, I'm sure.

[low coyote]

If you have an open affix slot, and you are going to add a new affix, can you go straight to sealing it, or do you need to add it first, then seal it second?

[surreal verge]

Seal it second.
Items without full affixes have a lower seal chance.

(Notable that in exalteds, 4 affixes means 100% seal on T2 or below)

[low coyote]

does it have ANY chance to seal as you are adding it, even if it's a lower chance than sealing it second?

As it might cost you less FP overall still.

[surreal verge]

Yes, but is the risk worth taking is your call.

[low coyote]

Well you're paying the FP cost on the addition regardless, unless you get lucky with the glyph of hope.

[surreal verge]

It's mostly the failing chance tbh

[low coyote]

And if it fails on the first try, what have you lost?

[surreal verge]

Since if it actually fails the seal and the tier goes up you'll have even less of a chance to seal.

[low coyote]

but it will be Tier 1 if it fail as you add it.

[surreal verge]

A failed seal upgrades the tier instead as per a normal craft.

[low coyote]

Soif yo uare adding it to an empty slot it will add at Tier 2 if it fails to seal?

[faint cape]

No, you can't seal an empty slot

[low coyote]

Thanks

[surreal verge]

Wait was THAT the main question

I think I misunderstood it

[faint cape]

It happens, words be wordy

[low coyote]

Language barrier, I be using Oirish, while you be using English.

I should ask Mike about Gaelic localisation.

[surreal verge]

[supple moat]

https://i.imgur.com/9ryB842.png

what is void spell hit?

[surreal verge]

When a void spell hits.

[faint cape]

Any hit from a spell with the Void tag

(such as Decimate)

[supple moat]

oh I see thanks

it is useless for sorc I believe

or act nvm, it procs off of my lightning spells

[faint cape]

Right, the Gaspar set was designed for sorcerer, though it does kinda function some on other classes, too

[supple moat]

I'm playing static orb so it is good I believe

just need 2 set for better proc rate

[wicked plover]

just found this in my storage

am i tripping or do i have 3 suffixes without seal

[candid elm]

Sure looks like it. Ward per Second is a Suffix

[buoyant sinew]

can happen as a result of balance changes

[toxic echo]

iirc, sometimes when they replace affixes, it happens. can lead to some weird affix things in stash

[wicked plover]

so with some luck this could be a 6 affix item :^)

i'll report it anyways to get confirmation, since this is on online realm

[faint cape]

Ward per second used to be a mage-only prefix. It got changed to a suffix not too long ago.

It's a legacy item, in other words

[wicked plover]

so toss me some ideas here, should i sjust slap 2 skills on it and try to seal another suffix? 😄

[pallid tulip]

Can you only make Legendaries from Uniques combined with Exalted/purple items?
And what will the level requirement be for the legendary if you use a Calamity and a lvlreq 54 exalted item?

(Thinking about the possibility of making som crazy leveling legendaries)

[faint cape]

I'd say try to seal a prefix if anything, but idk, not much experience working with legacy'd items like this

it may or may not let you craft another suffix on it if you seal, and not sure how the extra mod reacts with seaeling

[faint cape]

Yes, and the level requirement of the unique is not affected by the stuff you put on it (yes, it lets you make super strong leveling items with little/no level req)

[pallid tulip]

Cool thanks! 🙂

[surreal verge]

you also need 4 affixes on that item.

[faint cape]

Oh yeah, good point (sealed affixes don't count, either)

[remote schooner]

I'm in dungeon and it says "dungeon door is already in use" what is that -.- can't go through door

[wicked plover]

maybe lag issue? havent had that problem in a while

whats better to build with the missing health as ward/second thing, generally health, ward/s or ward retention
is there a rule of thumb here

[faint cape]

You need both health and ward retention. Ward/s is not bad, but usually super weak in comparison

Anyone happen to know if apogee's triggered buff snapshots?

[scenic lava]

Does the ele damage leech from avarice work for ignite dot? I saw on the internet that said leech only applies to hit but just now I saw on a loading screen that leech applies to damage over time unless it specifiec "hit"

[faint cape]

Yep, all elemental damage you deal, including the ignites you inflict

[native sail]

It should apply to DoT

[faint cape]

(note that your minions are not you, so it won't work for their ignites)

[surreal verge]

Yes, because it doesn't specifiy 'hit'

[wicked plover]

i never tried a dot build, isnt leech incredibly strong on it then

[surreal verge]

Correct.

Assuming you can get it.

[scenic lava]

oh wait, i was looking at the path of exile reddit lol. i specifically googled last epoch

[surreal verge]

[scenic lava]

thanks yall

[scenic lava]

that's ok. im trying to make a ignite marksman build

[wicked plover]

why do people consider boneclamor barbute to be a bad item, at least i have heard so
that item alone gives me ~700ward currently without even starting to propely gear for ward stacking

if you get 1-2 lp on it with +your skill that sounds pretty pog to me

[native sail]

It's outclassed by other ward stacking items with far less effort

[surreal verge]

Necro resist normally isn't maxed.
Also check it's history.

[wicked plover]

why wouldnt you use it though if you dont have anything better as helmet/dont need stats from exalt

[surreal verge]

Becuase you NORMALLY just take exalted stats

[native sail]

Because the premier item for ward stacking is usually an exalted increased health item with cold res or flat health and +skill.

Good luck getting that on Barbute.

[dense root]

for the record i think lp boneclamor is pretty decent

well

if it's well rolled

[wicked plover]

i see, so the ward retention + health is just easier scalable then getting an 2lp bonevlamor

[native sail]

It's fine but it competes with like, Peak.

[surreal verge]

It's just outclassed.
Also it was pretty shit before their recent change.

[native sail]

Which is just insane.

[dense root]

not every build can actually use peak

[surreal verge]

Now it's at least okay.

[native sail]

I mean

I can't think of a LL build that can't use Peak

[dense root]

i didn't say we were low life though

[wicked plover]

whats the point of peak if you are already crit capped

[dense root]

i just said that a well rolled lp boneclamor was decent

[native sail]

you crit cap for free instead of investing

And it's stupid easy to get LP on Peak

[dense root]

like if i'm building ward dancer yeah i want peak obviously

but other builds exist

[surreal verge]

2LP peak is 20x easier than 2lp boneclamor

[native sail]

I think the only wardstackers that wouldn't get anything out of Peak are Twisted Hearts?

Even Vessel doesn't care about the downside

[dense root]

i mean i didn't even say we were stacking ward

[wicked plover]

yea fair point, if you look at a limited timeframe to farm stuff it might be more accesible to build that way

[native sail]

It's a discussion about wardstacking though

[dense root]

it isn't?

it's a discussion about the item

[wicked plover]

i mentioned it in context of ward stacking

[native sail]

A ward item. That is built for ward stacking.

[dense root]

like they based their evaluation of that item based in part on the ward affix but it's not like they said "why don't ward stackers use boneclamer"

they just asked why people dislike it

[dense root]

see the thing is i can just remove the ward line and the item looks completely fine still

[native sail]

Ward is either full invest or no invest, you really can't go in between

[surreal verge]

It'll be mid, but it'll be 'okay'

Like it's old version.

[dense root]

like i wouldn't call it busted but that's a completely reasonable base provided you care about both dex and int (i.e. you are shatter strike) and it has lp

[native sail]

It becomes a generic stat helm that brings minimal value to any type of build is the problem

[surreal verge]

Which is why I called it mid.

[dense root]

i mean i did say it was decent

i wasn't like "boneclamor will rule the world"

[surreal verge]

It's current version is much more in decent territory

[dense root]

just like if a person made a build and it happened to use boneclamor with lp i'd be like "yeah that's fine"

[native sail]

The ward affix is what gives it an identity, and that identity is the context of building it for ward gen, but it doesn't do its job well enough in the current state of things

[surreal verge]

Since you'll probably get some free ward per sec here and there

[dense root]

imo it's silly to focus hard on an affix you agree is bad

[native sail]

Without the ward affix I would genuinely never use it even with 2LP

[wicked plover]

on another note, just for the lulz, has anyone tried filling their idols to the brim with these dudes, or is dual health more efficient

[dense root]

like at the top end it has t6 (or min roll t7) int and dex, low/mid roll t7 necrotic res, and t7 armor as its explicits

[native sail]

Health is more efficient usually

[surreal verge]

Dual, 5% is way too low.

[dense root]

i'm not saying this is exciting or build defining but sometimes you just need stats to fill in spots in your build and this is totally a way you can do that

[wicked plover]

aight ty ^^

[surreal verge]

5% is basically 1.2 int worth of ward retention

Might as well put % health instead.

[wicked plover]

i mean yea, but it adds up to 100% ward retention, didnt sound that bad on paper

but guess health is the way to go if you stack those ward items

[surreal verge]

All armour might give you more ehp with that amount of smalls

[native sail]

Sure, but without LP you lose access to health and +skills which are both extremely powerful, and it has one of the easiest resistances to cap on any class on any build.
I think it needs that affix to be something worth competing in the slot expecially at its LPL and on top of that I think that some other helm options need a nerf and the ward affix needs a slight buff (or it needs one additional affix to feed into it a bit more).

[surreal verge]

540 armour sounds better than 100% ward rentention

[dense root]

this is why i said it needed lp?

[dense root]

.

like you're arguing against a position i didn't take?

i specifically think a well rolled lp boneclamor is decent at what it does and if you are in the market for those things then it's a fine pick

[native sail]

I just think that the item is not in a good position relative to the power it has.

[dense root]

and then i gave an example, shatter strike, where all of the affixes are relevant because shatter strike has a bunch of dumb requirements to be usable and those include having lots of dex, lots of int, manually building armor, and still getting your resistances somewhere

anyway i haven't eaten today and the sandwich place is almost done making my sandwich and also i ran out of things to say about boneclamor so i'm going to go eat a sandwich

[native sail]

Shatter Strike has the problem of needing you to either go full giga DPS or cutting back and scaling defense as much as you can though, you wouldn't use Boneclamor on it

[wicked plover]

% armor is always local on gear right

[surreal verge]

Nooo, it's all armor

[native sail]

No

[surreal verge]

If you mean the affix.

[native sail]

Pretty sure there is no such thing as a local stat in LE

[surreal verge]

Just like % increased health

It's applied to all flat.

[wicked plover]

huuuuuh okay, i always assumed it was just local

[surreal verge]

LE doesn't have local, affix wise

[wicked plover]

oh boi, i need to revisit my armor stackers then x)

[fickle mantle]

quick question to the Acolytes. the Experimental belt that summons volatile zombie, do they benefit from the skill tree?

[surreal verge]

Yes

[fickle mantle]

awesome

[native sail]

Yes. It's also extremely busted atm.

[surreal verge]

Note that it is currently bugged to summon way more than the listed amount.

[fervent blaze]

Dreadful is a god at this game. His videos are perfection. Top tier

[scenic lava]

would ignite benefit from ele damage or does it have to specifically be ele damage over time

[wicked plover]

dot

[fervent blaze]

Dot

[surreal verge]

It would, but you'll most likely want elemental DoT anyway. (Higher numbers)

[native sail]

Ignite is fire damage over time -> it is fire damage -> fire is elemental

[wicked plover]

is that destinction in the category of crit -> spell crit , because it applies to fewer cases

[native sail]

Can it crit? Yes? Generic crit works. -> is it a spell? Spell crit will give you more but generic applies too.

[frail knot]

Hi, could someone sense check this loot filter? Not sure if it'll work the way I'm wanting... I want to see all exalteds, but if an exalted has the base and affixes I want, I want it to be colored orange instead of purple. To try and weed out the trash exalteds a bit better.

[toxic echo]

yea, looks fine. similar to how i have my filter set up. save the rules that arent turned on

[frail knot]

Thank you!

[faint cape]

You may need a hide normal/magic/rare rule at the top of that. And I'd only hide all rares if you have great rares/exalteds in all slots.

oh yeah, and this filter will hide all non-unique idols, might want to show some that have good affixes on them at least

the idol grind is real

[frail knot]

Thanks - this is what my filter looks like above those rules. So I think I'm OK?

[faint cape]

Aha, yep looks good!

[steel merlin]

what is the point of hide normal magic

[faint cape]

So they don't show up in the recolors

[frail knot]

Thanks very much, I'm still quite unsure on what I'm doing so nice to hear that it doesn't look terrible at first glance.

[steel merlin]

oh

i see, i normally combine the item type with the rarity i want

like, recolor exalted argent crest with 2 of 6 affixes

[faint cape]

interesting, and totally valid also

making your own loot filter is like scripting, so everyone has their own style, always neat to see

[alpine oak]

How do I progress/unlock the next Monolith/The Black Sun?
Already beaten Fall of the Outcasts Shade of Orobyss twice and it doesn't unlock.

[wide sentinel]

why are you beating shade? you need to kill timeline boss

[alpine oak]

Oh, where is the timeline boss?

[wide sentinel]

its quests on the left pasrt of the screen when you open monolith echos map

[alpine oak]

Lmao, found it, ty sir

[wide sentinel]

gl

[strong mantle]

Hey guys, how do yall resolve this? Connection's pretty stable but happens frequently when I switch maps.

[peak orbit]

is this a bug? equipping this idol doesn't increase crit strike chance as stated?

[faint cape]

I've heard some people have success switching to a different server

[sinful laurel]

It's increasing it. Just isn't showing as charcsheet shows whole numbers

[faint cape]

8% increased crit chance is only +0.4% crit chance, so you might just be getting rounded off

[peak orbit]

Right so thats whats happening lol

Idols can't be upgraded or crafted right? Just random drops?

[faint cape]

Right, just drops and no way to craft on them (yet)

[solid tartan]

Are less/more modifiers to mana on skills multiplicative with each other like damage effects? I'm guessing yes.

[icy drift]

I think reduced is the multiplicative form of less (asditive) iirq

Might have it backwards tbh lol

But yes they would be multiplicative

[solid tartan]

I meant to reference mana in my question but I kind've figured