❔┃ask-the-community

[surreal verge]

Yup transplant gives haste on cast as a node

[quick crown]

yeah, ive found that way, with some cooldown reduction i should be able to have good uptime on haste when combined with the chance to get haste on kill

question, can you transfer experimental stats to uniques?

you should be able to right?

if it is possible, then, if you gain for example haste from 2 different sources, lets say 4 seconds from an upgrade to a skill and then 4 seconds from an experimental stat... do the duration stack? meaning 8 seconds?

[dense root]

yes

different instances of haste overwrite each other though

[quick crown]

ah, dangit

[acoustic thicket]

Does anyone know what the barrel icon and the sword icon for the alternative movement button means? I had my mouse highlight over the button, but the description is greyed-out.

[sinful laurel]

Move to destroy breakables pretty sure

[quick crown]

is there a max cap on resistance penetration?

[scarlet cave]

is there a difference between offline and online in terms of content or drops ?

[tardy breach]

got a nice leveling weapon for void warpath
that third affix is OP as it sounds? geez

[buoyant sinew]

no, though naturally it becomes inefficient to stack more and more of it if you already have heaps

[buoyant sinew]

no

[acoustic thicket]

I am trying it out. It doesnt seem to be that. Might be a Mike question?

[buoyant sinew]

it's good yes, but mostly in the endgame. generally by the mid-late endgame you want to either have 100% crit avoidance or 100% reduced bonus damage taken from crits, so you're immune to monster crits

most of the spookiness of crits comes from area mods though, and those don't exist in the campaign so getting crit isn't a big deal there

[sinful laurel]

Unsure. Can't hurt

[buoyant sinew]

(the weapon is still great for its level ofc)

[sudden trellis]

can I tp to waypoint spot from within the same map? I don't wanna traverse all that way

[buoyant sinew]

no but you can do a silly workaround — waypoint to another map and then to the waypoint in the map you were in

it's the lotus halls tech

[sudden trellis]

ily

[quick crown]

if my calculations are correct, together with the reduced poison res from the enemy having 30 stacks of poison on them a regular non-boss enemy would have 270% reduced poison res for me

out of those, 58% is resistance penetration and the rest is just reduced resistance

[sinful laurel]

Resistance shred and resistance pen are two different stats

[quick crown]

whats this counted as then?

and the debuff the enemy get from having poison stacks on them

[sinful laurel]

That would likely function the same as shred

Which just reduces enemy resistances

[quick crown]

ok, so how does shred work? does it become ineffective below 0% or something?

[sinful laurel]

Below 0 it increases damage taken multiplicatively

Most monsters in LE already have 0 resiatances

[quick crown]

ok, so if i have 30 stacks of poison on an enemy (150% resistance shred against normal enemies and 60% against bosses) , and 62% resistance shred from other sources plus 58% resistance penetration how would that work?

do i get full benefit from all of it or do i have too much of anything?

[sinful laurel]

Ok hang on. Your thinking is a hit flawed here

[quick crown]

how so?

[sinful laurel]

The poison stacks are a DIRECT reduction to poison res. Poison res shred % is a % chance to shred resistance. So 68% of hits will apply a shred stack.

Pen is a direct more modifier on your damage.

[quick crown]

no no, the 62% shred from other sources is similar to the debuff from poison

plus

and i have 47 INT

[sinful laurel]

Ok then don't call them shred

[quick crown]

you called them shred because they function similarly

i was just using your words

[sinful laurel]

And they should theoretically stack additively with the poison stacks reductions. And yeah that was my bad

I was misunderstanding what you were asking at first

I said they function similarly only because they both minus enemy res

[quick crown]

aight, well, tl:dr do i need all of this, or is any of it "too much"?

like, do i have too much of anything such that it doesnt have any effect

[sinful laurel]

Resistance shred and pen are some of the strongest modifiers you can get to your damage. You have a good pen value and a good res reduction value

And again, there are no soft or hard caps. There are just points where it's not as worth it to stack more on top of what you have and sacrifice other stats. Balance in all things

[quick crown]

question, does modifiers to poison damage and damage over time i have for my poison stacks apply to poison i apply to myself through aura of decay as well? or do i "only" take the 28 base damage per stack listed for poison?

[surreal verge]

Yes, it's still you applying it.

You will notice that you hurt yourself more if you have more % poison damage

VERY noticable if you gained pen

[quick crown]

so if poisons i apply to an enemy deal 100 damage/sec per stack they will deal the same damage to me when i get them from aura of decay?

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[quick crown]

and you say resistance pen works against me as well?

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[sinful laurel]

AoD is...rough

[surreal verge]

You can easily test this by remove the pen that comes with lich's passive node

[quick crown]

ouuuch, i think i need to invest more into poison res 🤣

[surreal verge]

WELCOME TO AOD

[buoyant sinew]

AND stack less dot taken

and then maaaaaaybe you'll be able to survive a little bit 😛

[sinful laurel]

and the armor applies to dot

[quick crown]

i thought resistance pen and increases to my output damage didnt affect myself

[sinful laurel]

it does for AoD

specifically

[surreal verge]

Because AoD applies the same poison you apply to enemies, to yourself

[sinful laurel]

this

[surreal verge]

You get a free copy-

[sinful laurel]

just a little gift

[quick crown]

well, if i can maintain 75% poison res and have permanent uptime on haste i would take like 4% or less of the original damage

[surreal verge]

A very painful gift

[sinful laurel]

you would need a shitload of poison res

[surreal verge]

Remember you can also use health regen to cover for the loss

[quick crown]

yeah, i realise this now

[quick crown]

harder to stack regen honestly

[sinful laurel]

and leech if you want to use another skill that hits

[surreal verge]

There is a surprisngly amount of way to mitigate AoD's self poison.
THe question is "Is it worth it"

[quick crown]

does resistance penetration ignore resistances above the cap and only affect uncapped values? or how does it work here?

[buoyant sinew]

surely if you invest enough in AoD the damage will be good

(I need nitro so I can put a copium here)

[buoyant sinew]

I believe technically yes though it doesn't really matter

[surreal verge]

Pen ignores overcap.

Shred doesn't.

[quick crown]

well... the build im theorycrafting right now seems to have about 130 damage per poison stack (not accounting for any resistances) and i put 16 stacks of poison on the enemy per second (6 on myself)

so thats like 2K before resistances per second in DOT

then apply the pen and shred/resistance reductions

and multiple seconds of stacking stacks

[sinful laurel]

sounds like an AoD build

have fun 🙂

[surreal verge]

Once again, welcome to AoD.

IT's key issue is shitty single target damage and solving the self poison issue without wasting too much affixes

[quick crown]

well i kinda? solves single target damage i think? this staff plus spirit plague

spirit plague have an upgrade that applies plague to an enemy at the same time

[buoyant sinew]

wellll spirit plague's single target is also irredeemably shitty

adding one shitty single target skill to another doesn't really get far enough to solve the issue unfortunately

[quick crown]

i dont use it for spirit plagues damage, just to apply plague

plus the pen on the staff

plus the 20% More DOT damage to enemies afflicted with plague

[buoyant sinew]

sure? that's not really going to be all your damage though, plague doesn't stack

[surreal verge]

Plague is shite for damage

I know

[buoyant sinew]

it's just a nice little bonus

[surreal verge]

I did this build with my own two hands

Plague doesn't stackkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[quick crown]

i know

[surreal verge]

[buoyant sinew]

yeah I have also messed around with poison lich stuff though not this exact variation

[surreal verge]

Plague is the spirit plague for posion, it's free clear

[buoyant sinew]

was unable to find something that dealt good single target

[surreal verge]

your best 'single target' if any, is poison converted wandering spirits

Just because they just really ram into the boss a lot and proc damage

And poison stacks

WIth enough uptime, those bastards can stack posion as good as AoD

[balmy current]

No, but all stats have diminishing returns. Adding 10% to 100% (10% incremental benefit) is more impactful than adding 10% to 500% (2% incremental benefit).

[tardy breach]

Baldtoro insta wins

wrong sub AMSEMASEAMSE

[balmy current]

Shred (& pen) are applied before the resist cap. Assuming you're not referring to the mobs area level penetration

[quick crown]

ok, with the new info i obtained, ive scrapped all resistance pen i could (only have 3% left from 1 point in a node i needed) in order to ensure i have as close to 75% resistance i can get, that plus overcapping poison res massively should help me survive AoD for much longer time, i also looked at this

could be an alternative maybe?

[balmy current]

Maybe, what are you giving up though?

[quick crown]

i suppose its 18% of this value it means?

[balmy current]

Yes

Er, no

18% of the non-physical damage mitigation

[quick crown]

ah, even less

thats like... uhh, 2% less damage taken

i think ill skip it, doesnt seem worth it

[balmy current]

Yup

[quick crown]

since i havent invested very much into armor

[balmy current]

That's the usual answer to any AoD question

[quick crown]

lmao

[safe harness]

This doesn't sound right.
To quote the game guide:

Penetration applies after resistances are capped to 75%, and can reduce resistances to negative values.

Having greater than 75% uncapped resistance protects against the Resistance Shred and Shock ailments.

[quick crown]

i already have like 96% actual less damage taken, calculated from multiple sources that are multiplicative with eachother

[balmy current]

Those are for mobs' area level penetration, not player penetration

[safe harness]

no?

and isn't it all the same?

[surreal verge]

Shred respects overcap, Pen doesn't.

[balmy current]

Nope

[surreal verge]

It's in the game guide ffs

[safe harness]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/penetrations

[quick crown]

its the same way in both diablo 2 and path of exile btw

[safe harness]

the game guide makes no distinctions between arena pen and player pen

[balmy current]

@surreal verge That's talking about mob area level penetration. Mobs don't have resists (usually).

[safe harness]

it really isnt though

[balmy current]

but they are different

[surreal verge]

It's not.
That's the generic topic on penetration.

[safe harness]

This is the page for combat mechanics for penetration

and it gives an example of player pen on that page as well

For example, 30% lightning penetration against 20% lightning resistance will result in -10% lightning resistance.

[balmy current]

Can you point to any mob that has >75% resist?

Practically, it doesn't matter since mobs don't have resists that high.

[safe harness]

they can have more than 75% with echo mods

[surreal verge]

Can you point to mobs that have pen that ISN'T area level pen?

[balmy current]

I'm not talking about mob penetration, I'm talking about Player damage calculations with poison & penetration re the above conversation.

[surreal verge]

You know the topic is talking about penetration of all forms right?

[safe harness]

there is an echo mod that gives up to +45% resist and you can have multiple of them.

[balmy current]

Despite only focussing on poison & AoD?

[surreal verge]

I meant the game guide topic.

The one you assume it's only for area pen

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/resistances

You know what the line is REPEATED IN THE RESISTANCE TOPIC

[balmy current]

TBF, that probably has to be capped at some value (likely 75%), otherwise 2 of those mods would make mobs immune to damage of the relevant element.

[safe harness]

yes this is how it works

but you kept saying enemies cant have resists that high, when in fact they can

[balmy current]

Yes, which is talking about mobs penetrating player resists ("if you had ...").

[surreal verge]

DId you really read?

[balmy current]

Yes

[surreal verge]

Then how did you come to the conclusion that it's talking about the area level pen?

When it doesn't state so

[safe harness]

why do you think there is a difference in how penetration works for monsters vs players? There is nothing about this in the game guide

[surreal verge]

Like, in the same topic (Resistance in the game guide) there's two lines saying or implying that pen applies after cap.

[pastel pebble]

The game guide is outdated TBF

[safe harness]

is it?

[balmy current]

Yes, it's not been updated for a while

[surreal verge]

What part of it is outdated apart from missing stuff?

Like weavers will not explained

Actually you know what

FUcking AoD can test it

[safe harness]

I wouldn't have thought that penetration or shred has changed for a while either though

[faint cape]

It is yeah, but the stuff on penetration in the guide seems fine

[pastel pebble]

I don't read game guides I intuite it all naturally in contemplation. I'm not saying the pen has changed I just wanted to add that it's not wholly accurate as a source

[surreal verge]

LE's game guide is surprisngly consistent unless it's a recent change

[safe harness]

can you give an example of something in the game guide that is wrong?

[surreal verge]

Some of the formulas are wrong that I recall

[faint cape]

The armor formula

[surreal verge]

But the explanations are correct.

Anyway, this would be piss easy to test by actually overcapping poison res, turning on/off poison pen (Passive node) and turing on AoD

[faint cape]

Also, it's incorrect on some things by omission (like it doesn't mention anything about leech ending when you reach full health)

[surreal verge]

My 0.91 AoD lich says yes it does ignore over capped res, and I don't think that has changed between these updates unless it's a hidden change

Also @balmy current I think area level mob pen is the exception as mob shred works the same.

Everything else is the rule and the pen per area level is the exception.

[balmy current]

Yeah, possibly.

[surreal verge]

Actaully I forgot to test if the area pen affects AoD's self poison...

I don't think so, it would be funny

[balmy current]

Since that exists to make sure that player defensive stats don't have to go nuts (ala D3) to give a continued reasonable feel to gear scaling as you level.

[quick crown]

does the poison stacks applied from AoD count under any of these two? as in, does it let me leech the damage i deal as life?

[balmy current]

I don't think it does since the source of the poison is the player not a mob

[balmy current]

No to the first one (since poison is an ailment not a spell), yes to the second (since that is generic damage leech).

[surreal verge]

Most likely not, but it's a funny thought

[surreal verge]

Yeah the first doesn't but the 2nd does.

[quick crown]

will keep the first one since i need the extra flat health

[surreal verge]

The 2nd node is the only way for DoT acolyte to get leech from DoT that isn't reliant on uniques.

Bleed has a relic and there's bleeding heart but that one punishes you for casting a spell

poison has one but it's a off-hand unique

Which means it cant be used along with plague bringer

[quick crown]

*Plague Bearer you mean?

[surreal verge]

Yeah

[quick crown]

question, does applying more poison stacks to myself with AoD refresh the timer on the older poison stacks or do they still expire after 3 seconds?

[surreal verge]

The latter.

Each stack has their own timer.

[quick crown]

then that means i wont have more than 18 stacks of poison on me at any time since i get 6 stacks per second from AoD

[surreal verge]

Yup

[quick crown]

thats a lot less than i thought, now it gets a bit more viable

question, this damage, it says its dealt gradually over 3 seconds? or does it deal this damage every second for 3 seconds?

per stack

[surreal verge]

It's total damage per stack

(So over 3 seconds, or more if you somehow increased it)

[quick crown]

ok, so if i increase the poison duration to 4 seconds it deals less damage per tick for longer duration?

[faint cape]

Same per tick

[surreal verge]

No, you just get an extra tick in theory.

[quick crown]

i see

[surreal verge]

So 33% more damage if 3 to 4 seconds

[quick crown]

so an extra 48.6 damage then

per stack

[icy drift]

Note that this bug is still in effect: https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1167795279559405638

[surreal verge]

AoD takes your own stats into account, so it works different from item applied ailments

[faint cape]

Yeah, the problem with AoD (ignoring bugs), is that player health is so much lower than monster health. So, by the time you scale AoD damage to be usable as a main skill, it becomes unusable because you're dead

[balmy current]

You do get extra ticks.

[icy drift]

nope, this bug would apply to AoD before and it still does

you're getting double wrecked

[surreal verge]

Great now I need to send someone to test it.

[quick crown]

i see, then i will hold off on making this build until its fixed

[surreal verge]

Don't worry AoD will still be pretty bad even if it was fixed.

[icy drift]

alright i'll be 100% i'm just assuming it's the exact same bug since it's behaving the exact same way

but maybe by some miracle AoD isn't affected this time

if you read their post from before you can see they bunched them all togehter

[quick crown]

i mean, not neccessarily? want me to get into specifics?

[faint cape]

Fully auto-cast shaman is more viable than AoD. And that's not saying much.

[icy drift]

i only tested with bloody nib and bloody heart

[surreal verge]

I assume it wouldn't because AoD doesn't take any enemy stats into account

But all of yours instead.

[icy drift]

yeah but the bug used to work on AoD if you read the post

[surreal verge]

Yeah

[icy drift]

so i assume it still does

since it's the same bug

[surreal verge]

Go on

I want to see what a good handful of us don't see.

[icy drift]

tbh i don't think AoD is that horrible either if you get enough damage output from it

[faint cape]

Really, please do, if you've cracked the code a lot of people would love to play AoD

[surreal verge]

That's the issue. You can't

[icy drift]

yup

[buoyant sinew]

the end result for me was "you can go to a lot of work to get pretty good clear and no single target...or you could just use spirit plague and get better clear for no work"

but I would love to be wrong

[faint cape]

Yeah I mean no matter what your single target will probably have to be channeled WS

[surreal verge]

Spirit plague even lets you double dip into rip blood's healing for single target

If you INT stack for damage

[faint cape]

Or you could run ghost maker infernal shade and have great clear plus passable single target

but I guess then you're not a lich lol

[surreal verge]

But that's dual damage types...

[faint cape]

Doesn't really matter if all your scaling is generic

[surreal verge]

Fair

They're typing much longer than I thought they would....

[icy drift]

same

something's cooking

[surreal verge]

I hope it won't get congratulations-ed

[icy drift]

i better see a full thesis

[faint cape]

Look, if they solved the AoD problem, we will celebrate them as a hero

[icy drift]

same

i really wanted to play it

it's the closest thing to death aura / RF from poe

[quick crown]

i have with the current build i have planned 146 + 48 total damage per stack, then plus 20% more damage from being afflicted by plague
which makes it 232 total damage per stack (14.8K total damage per 4 seconds at max sustainable stacks, which is roughly 5K dps)
i apply 16 stacks per second, after just 2 seconds, the enemy have 123% reduced poison res while inside my AoD aura which is 8+ meters wide
meanwhile, i only take 6 stacks per second which caps out at 24 stacks or 4656 total damage over 4 seconds, then comes the damage reductions

• 50% from AoD itself
• 20% from its upgrade
• 20% from Oracle Amulet base
• 9% less times 2 from [4x1] idols
• 6% less times 2 from [3x1] idols
• 35% from "advent of lucidity" boots (if you find a perfect rolled pair) - 75% from your poison res
  this should be roughly 96 - 97% actual damage reduction from the poison
  which means you only take 176 TOTAL DAMAGE per 4 seconds which is completely manageable with life regen

[surreal verge]

I DID say that the self damage is pretty easy to solve.

But what about the damage output.

[icy drift]

literally just put on any leech and the self damage is solved in my experience

[quick crown]

roughly 4933 damage per second

[icy drift]

oof

[quick crown]

in damage output

[surreal verge]

That's depressing.

[icy drift]

yeah

[quick crown]

at max sustainable stacks

[surreal verge]

Meanwhile damned.

[icy drift]

to yourself or enemies?

[quick crown]

to enemies

[icy drift]

oof

[quick crown]

this is before any resistance shred is calculated however

[faint cape]

Also before enemy DR is calculated

[surreal verge]

that's still not a lot.

[icy drift]

youd need like 500% res pen lol

maybe more

to make it fine

[quick crown]

i only have like 120% enemy resistance reduction

[balmy current]

And this is why we've been saying that AoD is just bad.

[icy drift]

exactly my point

this isn't nearly enough damage

[surreal verge]

It's a lot of effort for piss poor damage.

(Poison being nerfed to hell also didn't help)

[balmy current]

TBF, AoD was bad even before the nerf to poison, which was absolutely needed

[quick crown]

i assume accounting for mark for death isnt going to change very much

its "only" 25% more damage

[surreal verge]

You also committed... your amulet base and your idols into dot reduction instead of more generic defenses or offenses

[faint cape]

Nope, you need orders of magnitude more damage

[icy drift]

i'm talking i wanna see 50k dps at the very least

if not 100k

that much might not be needed

[balmy current]

It's not even that, Mark for Death is a resist reduction which is additive with all other sources of the same.

[icy drift]

but we're talking literal max roll everything

[pastel pebble]

50k against dummioes or?

[icy drift]

yeah

[pastel pebble]

Oh yeah

[surreal verge]

Realistically the DPS is also about double of what he's estimating because of poison duration but still pretty shite

[icy drift]

he's talking like 5k dummy before resistance calcs

so it's gonna end up at like 15k tops

which for dummy damage is oof

like if we can get to 100k dummy damage i'll respect it as a nice qol chill clear build

and i'm talking top end

[faint cape]

Yep, like my cold swarmblade was like 200k dummy dps pre-bug and that was an okay amount of damage for clear

15k is not enough at all

[icy drift]

so maybe 70k would be more realistic for what i'm talking about, but it should be able to just walk past the trash mobs and kill them

[surreal verge]

Like, AoD's stack count is as high as my fireball ignite build's ingite stacks

[icy drift]

oh well then maybe i'm being too generous lol

[surreal verge]

.... And it still does shit for damage because of how poison works

[icy drift]

the damage is so horrendous right now i didn't want to push it too high to call it viable lol

[faint cape]

Yeah, and we're not even accounting for the ramp time

[icy drift]

honestly they should rework it so it doesn't apply poison whatsoever

[surreal verge]

Man I can barely clear base empowered with mine last time

[icy drift]

that it just does poison damage around you

as just damage

[surreal verge]

It was okay clear but utter dogwater bossing

[icy drift]

no ailment

[surreal verge]

The only good thing about it is that I can focus on dodging

[faint cape]

I think AoD should be like ignite glyph of dominion

[surreal verge]

I dont have to aim shit-

[icy drift]

it having to ramp on enemies as you walk past them is a bit dumb imo

like i get it though

[faint cape]

Poison spell DOT with poison stacks per second, rate scaling with poison chance

[icy drift]

and i don't expect them to stop making it apply poisons

but yeah the way it works rn ain' it

[faint cape]

I also don't expect them to ever want AoD to be a viable main skill without mechanical tweaks

[surreal verge]

It would be a doubled edged sword, but I think it would be better

[faint cape]

it's too passive

[icy drift]

yup ^

[surreal verge]

Because that makes it scale with spell affixes.

BOTH kinds of poison

The one the enemy is taking and the one YOU'RE taking

[icy drift]

Like maybe they just want it there for the poison into stats conversions that lich has

Because I don't think they actually want it to do damage

[surreal verge]

If it scales too high then leech would become a must have on AoD

[icy drift]

Since itd be too passive as a main skill

[surreal verge]

Which is.... soul feast

I think

[icy drift]

Yeah think so

[surreal verge]

Death Seal waves do more damage per poison up to 30 stacks

As a node

Yes, just 30

[icy drift]

Yeah idk I think it's just supposed to be a support spell kinda

[surreal verge]

1000%.

[faint cape]

I'd be okay if they just leaned into it being a purely support skill, slight help mopping up enemies and otherwise mainly to boost your other skills

[surreal verge]

The armour shred converted version does more than you think, it's just the rsk factor is too high

[icy drift]

The opportunity cost is a bit high rn though tbh

For it to be a pretty meh support skill

Like I guess you can just not scale poison at all and have it barely apply poisons just to use it for the 50% less poison damage

[surreal verge]

And to consume it with soul feast for more armor and poison res and increased death waves damage a bit

[faint cape]

The poison resist reduction on it is pretty good, as are the minion poison buffs. Poison just sucks though lol

[quick crown]

here is the buildplanner i made for my AoD build if anyone is curious
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/gprvx0o0

[surreal verge]

Yeah the minion nodes aren't terrible, but there's just too little

[icy drift]

Guys how does the maxroll build planner work lol

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/PQDwgvJA

[neon compass]

Lich, Level 100 (Beta 0.9.1d)

General:

▸ Health: 1,835, Regen: 180/s
▸ Mana: 109, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 116%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 29 Int / 4 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 55% / 62% / 62% / 60% / 50% / 38% / 74%
▸ EHP: 2,151 / 2,272 / 2,272 / 2,389 / 2,054 / 1,870 / 1,955

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 303
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (34)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (669)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Necrotic, Poison, Physical / Spell, DoT, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Aura Of Decay
• Death Seal
• Reaper Form
• Wandering Spirits
• Transplant

Used unique items:

• Plague Bearer's Staff
• Tongue of the Aberrant Seer
• Woven Flesh

[surreal verge]

here's mine, and I think it's better than yours as well

And it's honestly still pretty mid.

[icy drift]

Why not go low life tbh

[surreal verge]

That build does indeed run low life via Death Seal

[icy drift]

Fair

[surreal verge]

It's a good chunk of free % increased and death waves helps apply more poison stacks

[quick crown]

if you get 100% chance to shred a certain resistance on hit, how much resistance is shred? and does it stack?

[toxic echo]

-5%res per stack, stacks 10 times

[quick crown]

since the AoD Dot build didnt work, i tried theorycrafting another DoT build, this one seems just a little better 😉

• 539% chance to ignite on hit
• 76% fire resistance penetration with ignite
• plus 100% chance of spreading flames on hit with 200% increased damage
• 100% chance to shred fire resistance on hit

[wheat flint]

so when are paladin and shaman going to get completed?

[dense root]

completed?

[wide sentinel]

1.0

[wheat flint]

both classes dont have a 5th skill and healing hands still has no skill tree

[dense root]

i don't think 1.0 is the right answer

[wide sentinel]

also shaman is nowhere near complete, the class will be reworked heavily

[dense root]

we've been given no indication that either class will get a new skill at 1.0

[faint cape]

Technically speaking, none of them will ever be complete, as in, they will al continue getting changes

[wide sentinel]

i mean shaman will get new skill since on 1.0 all masteries will have 5 skills

[faint cape]

The only real confirmation we've gotten is that all skills will have a skill tree in 1.0, and hopefully all the missing skills will be in

[wheat flint]

just not set in stone skills/trees correct?

[dense root]

can i get a source on this

[wide sentinel]

time to browse #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[faint cape]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

most recent

[dense root]

yeah i saw that but that doesn't say that there will be new skills for shaman or paladin at 1.0

(tbh i suspect that means they're removing healing hands)

[faint cape]

Correct, it does kinda soft-confirm healing hand will get a tree or will be reworked/removed

having all masteries have all their skills has been stated as a pretty high priority after the new masteries are implemented, but it's not a guarantee

[dense root]

sure i believe it's a high priority

misha is claiming it has been confirmed and i want a source for that

[wheat flint]

just sorta tired of trying to make paladin good when its basically missing 2 skills, it doesnt feel special. and shaman not having its other skill limits it value compared to playing druid or beastmaster. Ive been playing those instead since the ones i do want to play aren't completed and it sucks when the game is almost full release already. hopefully 1.0 will be like a reboot and feel like a brand new game.

[dense root]

tbh lack of skills isn't really paladin's problem

you already have quite a few to choose from between the base class skills, paladin skills, and the skills from the first half of the void knight and forge guard trees

unless the new skill is something like flame ward which would fix paladin's actual problem (defenses) then giving it one more way to deal damage won't change how good paladin is

[wheat flint]

more saying it needs more thematic skills that synergize well. i want to play a holy knight/cleric not a mixed knight/smith/void thing.

alas its only my feelings and opinions

#oneofthefew

hope yall have a good night^^

[tired furnace]

General question for the community - "League Starter" what builds do you think operate best as mono farmers with zero day 1 gear in inventory? I went Holy Trail Javelin Paladin for 9.0 - upgraded to smite hammerdin once I got the idols. Curious what the community thinks is optimal with intro of Rune Master... Obviously we cannot judge Falconer or Warlock. aannnnd - GO!

[wide sentinel]

i think you are missing out on a lot of paladin builds, there is holy trail, judgment, 3 type of hammers, javelin build, warpath, rive, even a summoner paladin, fire echoes build, smite multistrike, at least several of these fall in holy knight/cleric category

[pastel pebble]

Lighting raining from the sky do be dope

[wide sentinel]

yep like electrify javelin or smiter/judgment/holy trail is the definition of holy knight stereotype

[pastel pebble]

At least a modern one anyways

I want long drawn out theological debates between Sentinel and Orobyss

[wide sentinel]

lol they left the server

but the statement "just sorta tired of trying to make paladin good" really is confusing when its way above other 2 sentinel masteries and overall one of the best classes in the game(with gear)

[tired furnace]

^^ I think the idea of a low ceiling is fair. Several other builds can entirely outscale and outshine the top end of "Paladin" - but it is a pretty academic exercise to whatabout when it is in a servicable place.

[native sail]

People took Pally to 2000c

[pastel pebble]

Paladin's good

[wide sentinel]

i mean with last patch pala has several options that do make it on the line with all other top tier build, you can get 16k ward+hp pool on top of max block with 63% BE, you are more vulnerable to dots

but these layers of defense are on par with primalist/acolite

and im not talking abt mage,cause permanent flame ward is a weird oversight and gonna be fixed

[pastel pebble]

Idk if it's on par with Primalist but Paladin is certainly viable in a few different ways

[wide sentinel]

idk 60+% block effect is just reallystrong

its same as all primalist drs combined

if not bettr

[wide sentinel]

also didnt people do that even before vessel+cleaver tech was introduced, now it has even more options

[dense root]

primalist dr is way better than sentinel block

[grim jacinth]

is it better to get health regen per secon or heath regen overall in early game? im lvl 40/

[wide sentinel]

against dots yes against hits no

[dense root]

no just in general

[pastel pebble]

Ye

[wide sentinel]

well i wouldnt agree with it , its free while block needs idols and 1lp bulwark. but LL buff+boar aspect+5 stack of impeervious is 58% dr

which is technically less than block effect u get from 4 idols

plus for that u need to be LL and the stacks are depleted after 1 hit so not 100% uptime

[faint cape]

Fun info, you can get aspect of the boar to 46.2% DR if you invest into it all the way

[wide sentinel]

that is true

[pastel pebble]

All without dealing less damage per

[wide sentinel]

the good thing abt primalist dr is that u get it for free...almost just 20-30 passive points

unlike block that pigeonholes u in like 10% of builds

[faint cape]

Yeah, super low opportunity cost on the bulk of its DR

[wide sentinel]

wish they had better block/dr design for sentinel in general but oh well

[faint cape]

even for non-LL, druid gets that 10% of health as end threshold, which is like another 17%ish EHP

[pastel pebble]

I would love to see more interesting stuff with block

[wide sentinel]

i think bina did calculations and that druid maxed out endurance passive gives more EHP to full life build than ll dr passive

[marsh maple]

The reason why Dr on primalist is so strong is it works against dots too. It let's you actually not instantly die to dots. That's the cool thing

[wide sentinel]

facts

[faint cape]

Yep

[marsh maple]

You have options as a sentinel now but it's all gearing based

With the experimental and relic

[pastel pebble]

Minus FG's potion

[muted orbit]

Is there any unique/skill etc for mage/acolyte that removes mana completely and casts spells from health bar?

[faint cape]

No. If you want to trivialize your mana, there are builds for that.

[tired furnace]

inb4 Falconer is a monk archetype that can use a bo's anarchy and gives you robust block from the tree. Copium

[faint cape]

There will probably be fist weapons and crossbows in the game eventually, but I wouldn't count on it any time soon

[hot yarrow]

should i be collecting and saving all of the shards i come across?

[buoyant sinew]

yes, at least for now. click "transfer crafting materials" in your inventory to prevent them taking up space

[hot yarrow]

ty... same with ruins and glyphs?

[buoyant sinew]

yep

most runes and glyphs are pretty common but you also use lots of them later on

generally once I've started to build up a good stash of crafting materials I ignore single ones on the ground

since there's an AoE pick up for them and they usually drop in larger piles

[grand harbor]

does rune of ascendence depend on th elevel of the item you used it on?

[faint cape]

No, items don't really have levels exactly. Only way to influence the rune is by the item type, like 2h axe or ring.

[amber void]

the meteor proc by harbinger of the stars gets the benefit from meteor's skill tree?

[dry narwhal]

it does

[amber void]

a different question, didn't they change the ambush mission to not display that the mission is an ambush?

[surreal verge]

Not all of them.

It's a chance

[viral parcel]

What’s the best place to go after respecing an entire build to try and get back to where they are

[surreal verge]

Where ever you could have reliability clear

[grand harbor]

did they remoev the zombie belt from the drop table?

[native sail]

No, there has been no updates to anything regarding the item pool since experimentals were added (at 0.9.2 launch)

[viral parcel]

Does anyone know the exp scaling

[sterile widget]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-convergence-update-beta-0-9-patch-notes/51975/3#heading--mechanics-xp-gain

[blazing gorge]

I don't know about you but since last patch I can't just stand and attack in a direction using the left mouse button like in, y'a know, all the other games. Also I can't keep my left mouse button on a group of enemies and have my character automaticaly move to attack the next closest enemy. To obtain the same result, I now must keep clicking on the group, and it's quite exhausting. Anybody got the same ?

[desert tree]

I think it's a bug that has been introduced in 0.9.2i

[trail sparrow]

A few days, maybe a week ago there were some issue with travelling/connecting to servers. Has this been resolved now?

[blazing gorge]

OK so I'm no the only one.

[desert tree]

No I've seen multiple people complaining about that

[worthy wave]

Hello guys, I'm having a lot of problems with dropping the "right" idols for my build (lightning swarmblade, the one from Binashole). I also selected the correct blessing but nothing, not even a drop in almost 200 hours of monolith farming. Do you have advice? Is there a better way to farm them?

[desert tree]

Make sure you have the blessing for the type you want (seems like you already have that)
Explore the monos web and pick every single idols reward node you can.

[worthy wave]

I think im just unlucky asf then..

[desert tree]

Idols are very grindy to get

[worthy wave]

However, thank you 🙂

[desert tree]

A lot of possibilities and wide range for rolls

[dusky kite]

most builds will list items that are entirely unreachable for a casual or even "midcore" player, so you need to just accept that and move on. Idols are one example, 3-4 LP uniques or even 2 LP uniques with good affix rolls are another.

[tardy quiver]

Guys, anyone have issues with login to website? I never used steam to login, and now I'm doomed.

[desert tree]

I guess if you make a big enough disclaimer saying this is an aspirational planner it's fine

[icy drift]

Lika 70% of planners out there would need that tag

[desert tree]

Yep

I am fine with that personally

I think there should be 2 planners when you do a guide/video. The one you are running. And the "perfect" aspirational one.

And I am not talking about 4xt7 shit

That's just non sense

[sterile widget]

You forgot sealed t5

All my gear is 33s

[cedar gazelle]

Folks! There are items which can be purchased for the game in Steam. Can I use this items with a different Steam account via family sharing Steam’s feature? I mean that I purchase item for my main Steam account and then use it with my other account tied with my main Steam account via family sharing. Is it possible?

[naive nimbus]

So...Did we crack the code for the Glyph of Insight? Which affixes lead to which experimental effects?

[dusky kite]

yes, perry had a video on this for a couple weeks now

ironically there is no correlation between affixes and experimental affixes I don't think

[naive nimbus]

ahhh, gotcha, thanks!

[past root]

quick question about runemasters and frost wall: i noticed some invocations trigger when a mob enters an existing frost wall if you got the "brand the invaders" node for frost wall. removing the node stopped the triggers
is that actually intended or a bug?

[desert tree]

Sound like a bug

[pine trail]

So I got a ring called font of the erased. It has artial red and partial white in the lettering, whats the red lettering mean?

[desert tree]

Like this ?

This is a Weaver Will item. Its a different way to acquire a Legendary item

[pine trail]

Yeah exactly like that

[desert tree]

As you kill monster you item gain random affixes (the red ones). The white ones are the base unique affixes

[pine trail]

Ohh nice!

[desert tree]

Red is always for Legendary affixes/items

[sudden trellis]

Does "increased spell crit" increase the damage if spell crits or does it increase the chance of a crit?

[desert tree]

Pretty sure the full name of the affix is " spell critical chance"

[pine trail]

Frost claw is quite a bit better than I had thought. Liking it so far

[desert tree]

Its an amazing skill

[pine trail]

With the 146% freeze I have they rarely get close to me

[pine trail]

Just put off curiosity, can Frost claw be changed to electric?

[faint cape]

Yes

[pine trail]

Always forget there is a search feature lol

I'll probably no they route later, for now I'm invested in cold until I get up in level some

The reach on that skill is insane

[solar shore]

why is my lightning blast now cold dmg lol

[sinful laurel]

Did you take the conversion node in the mage passive tree?

Or the one in the LB tree

[solar shore]

ok nvm found out

[pine trail]

cast speed is 58% now....fast as fk boi! 🙂

Oh joy, doing end ruin now.....wish me luck!

Woohoo 1st try!

[drowsy hornet]

is there a way to recover deleted characters in online? The game deleted one of my characters that was not selected 😦

[kind spade]

im preety sure even onlinecharacters are stored on computer

[native sail]

They are not, they are stored server side

[pastel pebble]

I'd reach out to support

!support

[ripe brook]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[pine trail]

Haste on travel skill, that would include teleport and flame rush correct? I'm guessing the traversal tag is travel

[sudden trellis]

Does the "increased spell crit" on this affect crit dmg or crit chance?

[surreal verge]

Chance.

It SHOULD have full details if you hold Alt

[sudden trellis]

it's ass then, cool

[pastel pebble]

The affix,m

?*

[surreal verge]

It's good for mana stacking, mid otherwise.

210% cap comapred to 150%

[pastel pebble]

Yeah, crit chance on a chest isn't ass. It's not the best if you aren't mana stacking

[surreal verge]

And it's in a different equipment slot comapred to spell crit chance, so you can take BOTH if you want to

[pastel pebble]

Yeah

[surreal verge]

It has its place.

[pastel pebble]

Well rolled T6 is hard to scoff at if you hit over 300 which isn't terribly hard to do

[drowsy hornet]

so support at the moment cannot recover deleted characters online. So note to anyone else - don't attempt to delete online characters at all

[soft merlin]

does void knight have anything that uses atunement?

[cunning hamlet]

what is better mad alc; shattered cycle or abacus rod?

[pastel pebble]

Not really, no

[buoyant sinew]

no void skill uses attunement scaling, they're all vitality and/or strength. you can use non-void attunement scaling skills as VK though if you want (for example, smite without taking the void conversion node, javelin with holy trail)

[soft merlin]

i see, thx

[merry burrow]

what would people recommend to a complete noob to ARPG's?

what class/mastery

(the noob being me)

[desert tree]

Paladin

[wide sentinel]

necromancer

[hearty pier]

is something i can do about constant desyncs?

[desert tree]

It's easy to get your resist up, and early tankiness feels good

[merry burrow]

and what builds on them? what skills to level

[desert tree]

Hammer is a great place to start

[wide sentinel]

check maxroll it has guides on both

[desert tree]

Or Javelin with Holy trail

[wide sentinel]

if necro i think golem would be an easy starter

for pala there are plenty options too

[merry burrow]

hoki

tyty

I'll check it out

[jagged terrace]

can the rune of ascendance give me an exiled mage unique?

[native sail]

Nope

[sinful laurel]

No. No boss specific uniques, only random drop

[jagged terrace]

ty

[pine trail]

So as a runemaster, does it matter what skills are in the slots below?
Like if I slot Frost claw in slot 2 will a rune be different if I put it in say slot3?

[rare jolt]

Is stun considered an ailment?

[faint cape]

For immutable order, yeah

[sinful laurel]

It's an on hit effect, not really an ailment.

[faint cape]

No

[pine trail]

What's immutable?

[rare jolt]

awesome, thank you both

[faint cape]

The only thing that cares about where your skills are slotted as far as I know

I mean, I guess there's a few other things that depend on what is slotted (just not where)

What specific effect are you concerned with?

[pine trail]

Just trying to better understand the class, I never knew about the skill line up. Can I post a last epoch link here of my setup?

Atm I have runic invocation, flamerush which is cold now, flameward, frost claw and elemental Nova

[faint cape]

Of course, post whatever you need to ask the question you want

[pine trail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/jQe73D5o

That's the setup I currently have

[neon compass]

Runemaster, Level 58 (Beta 0.9.2f)

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

General:

▸ Health: 773, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 240, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 141%, Regen: 17/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 21 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 2% / 31% / 15% / 26% / 38% / 6% / 6%
▸ EHP: 654 / 798 / 713 / 844 / 844 / 669 / 669

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 155
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (39)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (588)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 34%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Runic Invocation
• Flame Ward
• Frost Claw
• Flame Rush
• Elemental Nova

Used unique items:

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Isadora's Tomb Binding

[faint cape]

Where things on your bar is doesn't matter unless you get an effect that depends on it

[pine trail]

Main reason I'm asking is I was playing a different slotted setup it feels odd right now the rotation I have it as lol, if it didn't matter if go back but if if does matter then I'll learn to adapt to it

I'm so confused

[faint cape]

Ah, well since you have immutable order selected, it does matter

[pine trail]

I don't know if I do or not, how do I tell? Sorry I'm just so lost right now lol

[faint cape]

It's part of your Runic Invocation spec

the bright orange one right below the center

[pine trail]

The flame rush?

[pine trail]

Ahh ok will that icon in the lower right change with the order of the skill?

[faint cape]

Not sure which icon you mean, but Immutable Order forces a specific rune combo based on your skill bar

[pine trail]

Oh I see it in the tree now

So it changes depending on the order of the skill slots. So for someone new like me is there like a list of the order somewhere I can look at to decide what order I want to use?

[sinful laurel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/runic_invocation/invocations

Google and LEtools are your friends

[willow vector]

question, I dropped a legendary to show someone the color of it

then accidently went to a different zone

and it dissapeared

is it gone gone

[faint cape]

If you go back to that zone and the item isn't there, yeah\

[willow vector]

yeah

went back and didnt see it

thats a feels bad

[acoustic sandal]

Can Non-Unique Relics roll any +1 to (skill) mods?

[sinful laurel]

Yes. Check on lastepochtools.com

[acoustic sandal]

Thank you!

[winged plover]

Someone earlier in game told me i can use the forge to change uniques and set pieces to ones of my class. How do I do that?

[safe harness]

you cannot do that

[winged plover]

is there some sort of crafting that maybe he was referring to and it was just worded poorly?

like a reroll or something?

[safe harness]

you cannot change uniques except to make them legendary if they have legendary potential

there is no unique rerolling

[winged plover]

what about a set piece?

[safe harness]

can't do anything with those

[buoyant sinew]

There's nothing you can do to set items

[winged plover]

so just sell them?

[safe harness]

or offer them as tribute to the god of The Floor (leave them on the ground)

[buoyant sinew]

you can use runes of ascendance to make unique items out of normal items, that's the only other unique-related crafting

[winged plover]

ok thank you

[warped pelican]

im not sure if im right here, so bear with me, is there a guide for "Monolith Completion"?

[steel merlin]

Is just doing all the monos bosses once unempowered and once empowered

[warped pelican]

oh ok, ye i got them now empowered and see where this is going, like i can build up corruption on specific monos to farm for specific slots

[vestal stone]

guys what exactly does "force move" feature do? quite confused 😦

[icy drift]

You can bind it to a key and that key will force move your character

It's so you don't have to move with left click if you don't like that

[vestal stone]

that's so convenient

what do most people bind it to? just wondering

[icy drift]

Either a mouse of keyboard button

It's just pure preference

Some even bind it to the scroll wheel

And scroll to move, idk why but some people do lol

[amber rain]

I have a very niche question: The Reowyn's Fortress Staff gives runic invocation 1 spell dmg per 10 of the lowest of armour, dodge rating or ward. When you gain ward per consumed Rune, does the added dmg from that ward apply to the invocation that consumed it or only ones after that one? What's the order of actions there? Does anyone have a clue?

[icy drift]

Should be before ward is added I think

[civic wolf]

Hello , somebody got issue with Enemy Health Bars? mine wont show up and option is checked

[desert tree]

Try this

Should fix it

[desert tree]

Did it work ?

[icy drift]

@dreamy raft what are you trying to do exactly? Bind a skill that's not on your skill bar?

[dreamy raft]

That's right, because I use the Runemaster character. Therefore, other skills are needed to be able to combo and run

[icy drift]

You can't do this, and intentionally so

You can specialize 5 skills and put 5 skills on your bar. If you're triggering a couple skills you can switch out those for a skill you haven't specialized but outside of that you can't do much else.

I'm guessing you're trying to use the runic invocation node that gives you runes matching the abilities on your skill bar

You'd need to either figure out a way to convert the skills you want to have in your bar into the needed elements or switch them out or something

[surreal verge]

Or follow the fact that you have to build around 5 skills and all classes do so.

[icy drift]

Speak for yourself I almost always have a skill specced that's not on my bar because I'm cool like that

[dreamy raft]

I have damage and escape skills but lack self-defense skills. so im need flame ward but skill bar max 5 skill

[surreal verge]

You're going to have to play around that

[icy drift]

Yeah there's no way to use flame ward without having it in your bar

Well

[surreal verge]

Either replace a slot with flame ward, or don't run flame ward and just don't get hit-

[icy drift]

You can make your fire wall trigger it

[dusky kite]

Yeah that's just how the game is. It's a tradeoff, although given how self-contained nearly all damage skills are, not much of a tradeoff.

[surreal verge]

Or, use frost wall's node to trigger it.

[dreamy raft]

I'm looking for a hotkey to flexibly change the skill of using the right mouse button

[surreal verge]

Doesn't exist.

No hotbar swapping or skill swapping in combat here-

[icy drift]

You can't change what skill is in your bar on like that

You're supposed to only be able to press 5 skills

Otherwise they would've just given you more slots in the bar

There are workarounds but being able to use more than 5 skills is not one of them

[dreamy raft]

I found a way to create a shield but it consumes a lot of mana. Use runes from 1 ice skill + 1 fire skill and end with ice skill

[surreal verge]

Oh the ward invocation

[dreamy raft]

😂 same sounds like a puzzle

[surreal verge]

Welcome to Runemaster

[dusky kite]

yea you kinda chose the most convoluted class and keep fucking around with its most convoluted skill

[dreamy raft]

I have experienced bladedancer with terrible shock damage skills. This runemaster class is quite interesting and not boring

[surreal verge]

Bladedancer is physical based

I don't know why you used lightning

[dusky kite]

lightning charkam is a good build actually

but it's based entirely on a unique

[balmy oriole]

Does ailment damage scale with the increased damage by attributes of the skill that applied them?

[dusky kite]

yes

[dreamy raft]

I don't mean the lightning attribute. In the country I live, (Sock) it's called continuous damage and high crit rate. causes the opponent to die in 1-2 seconds

but used lightning charkam really good build actually XD

[surreal verge]

ah

[dreamy raft]

Sorry for the confusing word usage

[desert tree]

What is a good thing to slam on a Vessel ?

Int ?

[solar shore]

can i turn my idol? like side ways?

[storm blaze]

no

[faint cape]

For a generically good one, yeah int, health regen, or even some resists (like cold for shackles or just to make room for more regen on other gear).
For more specific stuff, crit multi or ele DOT or +level are all good options, too.

[surreal verge]

No

There's horizontal idols and vertical idols for a reason

[solar shore]

oh ok

[pine trail]

So I got a ladle yesterday, but...... I only have 20 Intel right now. Is that really going to be enough Intel to make any difference with a ladle as apposed to another wand or Sceptre? Like how much Intel are we talking to make a ladle effective??

I'm only 54 so there is still time to build up Intel

[rapid star]

i dont wanna be one of those dudes, but anybody knows if the game will be on discount when 1.0 arrives? i've read in the forum post that last sale was on summer 2022 and they didnt have any plans on another discount in early access
thanks in advance

[faint cape]

What makes ladle effective (outside of getting the ailment stacks) is stacking flat spell damage from elsewhere, since its base is very weak. Without that, it's not worth using.

[proper geode]

No @pine trail. The base spell damage is far too low. You would need a significant flat spell elsewhere. The cast speed would have to be incredibly high (cast speed 1% = 2 intel) for it to be effective at a low level. It’s not a good generic wand.

Or basically what @faint cape said

[faint cape]

We don't know when exactly, but that is still true that the next sale won't be until later. Fyi, pretty much all sales are 25% when they come afaik.

[pine trail]

So is base Intel going to ever be enough, or should I plan on slotting Intel on gear? Just so I know that to work towards and what I'm working with

[cunning hamlet]

i need help with lagon 75 someone here to help me ?

[proper geode]

Don’t plan on the wand at all unless you can find significant flat spell elsewhere. 90% of the time it more effective to use a well rolled dragonhorn or crystal wand with high tier of crit multi and spell crit

You also would need to add some more ailments to really turn the wand on. @pine trail

Just my opinion.

[rapid star]

ohhh i see, then i will buy the game now if its only a 25% on sale thanks buddy!

[faint cape]

No problem, have fun!

[dusk moss]

Whats Last Epochs outlook on macros by AHK and such?

[storm blaze]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

Mike has answered that in this link

[lofty inlet]

Hey, this isn't about LE, but youtube. Perhaps someone knows how to adjust settings regarding 'who can interact with my comments' on Youtube. There used to be a setting back in Google+ days, but thats gone. I dont expect anyone to know this, but hey

[viscid musk]

Normally when you upload a video right on the first step you can open advanced settings and select 4 different options for comments.

[lofty inlet]

I refer to personal comments, not channel comments. Like there used to be a time when people could post a reply on your channel, and there wouldnt be a 'reply' button to their comment. There was a setting that used to disable engagement with their account. From their end. In this case i am looking for settings like these to see if perhaps i have disabled engagement with my own comments on other peoples videos. Seems like no matter what i write, there are no replies, likes or dislikes. nothing lol. Feel like a ghost/shadowban. If anyone has some idea, write a direct message to me, thanks lol

[dreamy raft]

singularity what are more details?

[surreal verge]

What

[dreamy raft]

I don't understand what singularity is

[cedar locust]

Here you go, Singularity

It's an Idol that increases hit damage though removes your ability to Crit

[surreal verge]

1. Get X% more damage on skills that HIT (more is a final damage multiplier), if you only have one singularity in your idol slots.
2. As long as you have it equipped, your crit chance is 0%

[dreamy raft]

ah ok ty

[cedar locust]

Kzb, if you have more than one equipped what happens? Cancel each other out I'm guessing?

[dreamy raft]

only one singularity equipped

[icy drift]

Should yeah, but only the DMG part, crit should stay 0

So they just brick your crit for no benefit

[surreal verge]

👆

[icy drift]

If only you could keep your crit chance but was unable to crit, they'd actually have a use

[cedar locust]

Ah okie dokes - Don't have one Singularity, let alone two but was curious

[faint cape]

If you ever want one, one of the lost caches gives it so you can get one guaranteed drop per character

[cedar locust]

I saw when looking it up, nice to have a set location for them instead of just random drop chance! It won't do any good for my BD but maybe another character 🤔

[pastel pebble]

Idk who tbh

[wide sentinel]

Ooo where can you look up lost cache locations?

[wide sentinel]

There are like 2-3 builds where it is actually good. Earthquake and fire abyssal echoes, besides that idk

[faint cape]

It's a leveling item, so it's kinda neat to have as a guaranteed drop you can grab

[cedar locust]

Cache Locations

[dusky kite]

actually nobody has a singularity because it's not worth a mouse click to pick up

singularity is a lie

[cedar locust]

If it's not on LE, you can find it on Tunklabs!

[cedar locust]

I'm sure there are one or two builds that do, though it's definitely a specialised build item. I can see the appeal for levelling though if you aren't on a crit focused build

[surreal verge]

It can see some use in leveling sure, but end game it's not worth losing crit sadly

Or a hyper specific build-

[desert tree]

Maybe it should scale with lvl
0.5%more dmg per lvl cap at 20%-40%

And obviously bigger number

I feel like 40% more dmg make it a real opponent for crit

[pastel pebble]

At the very least it'll see a lot more use

Cause otherwise it's taking uo my tetris space

[stark kernel]

Hey im thinking about buying the game but im wondering if the campaign is finished yet? as that what im interested in

[steel merlin]

that wont happen for a loooooong time

there are 12 acts planned and the game will release in 21 february with 9 acts (that are currently already in)

[lofty inlet]

there are a few major mysteries yet to be solved by the campaign. i think it would be safe to say that 'the main plot' is not finished. With that said, so far the devs have added big acts periodically, as well as make a 'pass' for some sections of the game so that the plot and the areas are more coherent and up to date. I would expect them to continue with that sort of pace.

[cedar locust]

The story is great, but as others have said only 9 of the 12 planned chapters have been released though there is still lot of gameplay!

There are also almost infinite build possibilities and a lot of mechanics to learn, try out and perfect 😊

[kind spade]

anyone played bladedancer? cant decide if i go poison or bleed

[sinful laurel]

Bleed generally. Poison is unfortunate atm

[kind spade]

that means daggers are useless lol

[sinful laurel]

Nah not necessarily

Depending on how you build

And what skill

[kind spade]

are we going to have expansions?

[pine trail]

Looking on my pasive tree, and the only intel I see is on the mage tree at the beginning, is that the only intel there is? in case I'm overlooking anything. Playing a rune master

[sinful laurel]

On the mage tree itself that's the only int yes

[pine trail]

Cool thanks. Trying to raise intel to use the ladle I got last night

[sinful laurel]

Lots of ways to get flat int. Make sure you remember that you can invest into your non mastery trees up to the chain

[pine trail]

Gonna gamble see if I can't get a helm, doubt it, my luck sux, but can't hurt I spose

[pine trail]

Oh I forgot about that, sorc has some intel.......tyvm

There we go, 37 now

Ladle looking good now

[pine trail]

Can I set runic invoction as one of my fire/cold slots? The tags show it as light/fire/cold

[desert tree]

Runic Invocation does not count for Immutable Order

[pine trail]

Does nova count?

[desert tree]

Yes

But I am not sure how

[pine trail]

Hrmm, ok I have in this order, runic, fire rush which is now cold, flameward which is flame, and elemental nova. WOuldn't that be cold/fire/cold?

[desert tree]

Do you do cold nova?

[pine trail]

Err I don't use it to be honest, just slotted since it has all 4 attributes

[desert tree]

Slot Snap Freeze then

[pine trail]

Ok that worked, thanks. I think maybe nova isn't changed over to frost it's still electric lol

my bad woops hehe

[desert tree]

You might even use Snap Freeze to CC bosses once in a while

[pine trail]

Yeah true. I know I filled volly of glass on frost claw, no more burst.......man that thing alone made a HUGE difference.......I'm burning stuff down like crazy now

Frostguard has an insane amount of ward

[pine trail]

I've been told side quests offer opening idol space.....is there like a way to find those specific quests? I only have one quest now and the monoliths and it's the main quest line

[desert tree]

Are you still missing some?

[pine trail]

I'm not sure......when I hit the map, there are like all the monoliths, and 1 story line quest

[desert tree]

Open you inventory

[pine trail]

ok...

[sinful laurel]

alternatively, open your map

[desert tree]

Do you have all your ido's slots open

[buoyant sinew]

your idol slot and passive rewards from quests are tracked on the map screen, bottom left

[pine trail]

Nope, only like 5 or so

[buoyant sinew]

Have you only just reached the end of time for the first time? What level are you?

[pine trail]

Empoered timeline is 4/10, timelines is 6/10

[buoyant sinew]

oh so you've just skipped like every side quest?

[pine trail]

lvl 59, and started doing monoliths yesterday

[pine trail]

I dunno, probably missed them some how, was focused on main......not sure how to get the side quests

[desert tree]

Empowered lvl 59 Oo

[pine trail]

Need to go grab them, just not sure how to find them to grab them

I do that with every single game, trust me, I always some how, not sure how, but I end up skipping or missing quests......Did it in lotro when I played it, was frustrating, not doing it on purpose

[buoyant sinew]

So the way the rewards work is that rather than specific side quests giving specific unlocks, doing a side quest just unlocks the next thing you're due until you've got all your passives and idol slots

which means you don't need to hunt for specific quests, just do random ones until you have everything

[pine trail]

Showing idol rewards 4/8

[buoyant sinew]

Yep so that just means you need to do 4 more

[pine trail]

Thats the thing I don't have but the main quest.......just do it and maybe others will open up?

[buoyant sinew]

did you do both the side quests on Lagon's Isle? They're quick

Wait have you not finished the main quest?

[pine trail]

Not yet

[buoyant sinew]

Where are you up to?

[pine trail]

I'm at rayehs warpath right now

[buoyant sinew]

oh

then you haven't even missed anything I don't think

[pine trail]

Maybe I jumped into monoliths to fast? lol

Oh sweet, ok onward I go then

Got ahead of myself lol....I do that a lot

[buoyant sinew]

but yeah you unlock a whole lot of idol slots in chapter7

you'll have them all by the end of the chapter if you tick off everything

[balmy current]

Just because it's nerfed (much needed) & is worse than before doesn't mean it's bad. Rogue can still stack an obscene amount of stacks in a very short time & it still comes with a free 60% resist shred on bosses.

[sinful laurel]

that is true

[candid elm]

Open the map and look in the lower left corner. You'll see how many of the 15 Passive points and the 8 Idol unlocks you've received. If you're at 15/15 and 8/8 then you've got them all.

There's more quests that give Passives and Idol unlocks than you need to cap, in case you missed one. But you can always go back and do them later.

[hollow elk]

Hi, does "32% chance to gain 30 ward when hit" means I can get ward when I am hit? Or maybe when I hit a monster?

[sinful laurel]

when hit means when you are hit

[hollow elk]

and when it says "on hit" it means when I hit a monster, right?

[sinful laurel]

generally yes

[hollow elk]

thank you

[digital nest]

This is surely base crit chance right?

[pastel pebble]

I believe so

[pine trail]

So I'm messing with invocations on my rune master, for anyone whos played a rune master, what are some cool but effective invoctions?

gonna try some out

[candid elm]

There's a full list here https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/runic_invocation/invocations

[desert tree]

CFC

[digital nest]

I'm playing a cast everything runemaster atm, there's a kind of reasoning/rythm to some of them. I have mine set
Fire/Q Lighting/W Frost/R with fireball lightning blast and frost claw all specc'd to cost 0 so I get the mana back from casting 0 mana spells from the passive.

qwe-> ewq does the bomb antipode -> the turret antipode

[desert tree]

So much tankiness

[pine trail]

Yep, I've been playing with some

[digital nest]

for defensive stuff, cfc and ccf both provide massive ward

[desert tree]

Ccf?

[buoyant sinew]

the most meta ones are Hydrahedron and Reowyn's Frostguard, for what it's worth

[digital nest]

cold cold fire

unless you meant the spell

it's the plasma arc I think

[buoyant sinew]

personally I think the tri-elemental ones are really cool

[desert tree]

I didn't know Mirror Bolt gave ward

[digital nest]

sorry, mirror bolt

tons

massive amounts

goofy amounts

[desert tree]

More then CFC?

[pine trail]

Yeah mirror bolt is pretty cool

[desert tree]

But you don't have less dmg taken

[pine trail]

Frostguard is really nice!

[digital nest]

there's nothing stopping you from cfc -> ccf

[buoyant sinew]

Plasma Arc also seems really cool to me

[digital nest]

You don't ahve to choose one or the other

[pine trail]

True, and there is the 100% freeze which is nice

[buoyant sinew]

(though it's kinda just worse for igniting than hydra)

[digital nest]

what's the commnity agreed acro for lightning? L? S?

[desert tree]

Frostbite go broumm

[desert tree]

L

[mossy hazel]

I have a it of a question. I'm fairly new to the game, having played ~70 hours or so now. The more I play, the more I feel like individual skills don't work too well, and it's always about synergy between multiple skills for builds. As an example, I played a bladedancer with umbral blades. The more I played (got to almost level 80), the more I felt like I was forced to play sync strike, as umbral blades on its own felt lackluster in comparison. This has felt similar on most everything else I've tried - hammer throw leaning on smite, aura of decay not being viable on its own needing to be a support skill, manifest armor and shield toss so on so forth. Coming from PoE where most skills can be your main core skill that you funnel all your scaling into, this is quite different, where I feel like I can't play the skill I want, but have to play other things that synergize with it. Is this a general thing for LE or have I just tried primarily skills that are like this? Hope the question makes sense.

[desert tree]

Why S?

[digital nest]

shock

idk

[candid elm]

Gon, of course. Joking as I don't think anyone uses the Rune names

[desert tree]

Either L or G for Gon

[digital nest]

anyways flf spam with enough cast speed is a great workhorse imo.

[desert tree]

I like the tri beam but it's kinda meh

[digital nest]

I don't feel like I get much outta the meme beam

[buoyant sinew]

it's not a universal thing, plenty of skills work well on their own (though skills triggering other skills and multi-skill synergies are both much more widespread than in PoE).

both hammer throw and umbral blades can be your primary damage dealers on their own for what it's worth

[digital nest]

exort exort wex is good

[desert tree]

Yeh it doesn't tick very hard, rotate kind fast

[digital nest]

for the same use case I'd just use flf

super solid chaining aoe that follows me around

[pine trail]

Finally got intel up to make use of my ladle.......at 72 now, was at 20 this morning heh

[digital nest]

to be fancy you can ccl->flf for the extra lightning spell damage

[desert tree]

Yeah plasma orb is good, but I like DoT

[digital nest]

fcc then

but the aoe is kinda small unless you have lots of +skill area

[buoyant sinew]

@mossy hazelrandom examples of non-smite hammer throw and primary umbral blades builds in case they're helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBaQR9m0Mnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVUYxVwL5yI

both from a couple of patches ago but I don't think they've changed significantly

[digital nest]

My sorc crusied to 80 in monos just running lightning blast and nothing else really. Sometimes toggle on arcane ascendance for infinite mana + unecessarily more damage

[exotic umbra]

what hapens with online characters when game hits 1.0 in february?

[pine trail]

Seems like somtimes when I zone to another area, I come in and I'm missing health, is that normal?

[digital nest]

no?

and they get moved to the "post season" or whatever it's called category

like how every ARGP has seasonal content, and you character doesn't delete afterwards

[exotic umbra]

so when we hit 1.0 we need to create new chars for seasonal content like in poe/diablo

[digital nest]

yea

[sinful laurel]

But your also don't have to

[buoyant sinew]

well unlike in PoE or Diablo, there won't be season-exclusive content

[sinful laurel]

All content will come to all chars

[buoyant sinew]

there will be a new ladder you can play that's a fresh start

but the new content for the season will be available to permanent characters as well

[exotic umbra]

thats nice

[buoyant sinew]

so the new ladder is only for the fresh start if you want it

[digital nest]

presumably there will be fun somethings to entice you to play seasonal though right?

[buoyant sinew]

unclear

[exotic umbra]

so there will be a race for new characters and full patch for every characters

thats nice actualy

[buoyant sinew]

they've said there won't be season-exclusive content but there might be season-exclusive items

or something like that

it sounds like it's not set in stone yet

[digital nest]

afaik every game meant to be played for more than a playthrough has some incentive system

[exotic umbra]

I hope it won't end like with Wolcen

[digital nest]

so I'm sure there will be something

[buoyant sinew]

well the new content is the incentive to come back

but it doesn't sound like they're particularly bothered whether you come back to the permanent characters or the fresh start

[buoyant sinew]

this game is already doing a lot better than wolcen, they just have to not flub the 1.0 release and they should be set I think

[digital nest]

I'm very suprised they're not releasing the other subclasses before 1.0

traditionally, and even currently

bugs

Seems very ambitious to just assume QA will catch them all and be like, here's the bug free 1.0 and two new totally functional classes

[buoyant sinew]

let's be real there are going to be bugs

it's just a matter of how problematic they are

[digital nest]

I stopped playing my druid cause the tiny lunge from serpent strike didn't work in bug form

qol

does anyone find mana regen to be..viable? I noticed there's a bunch of stuff in the runemaster tree for boosting it, but I've never noticed regen on my sorc at least to be remotely close to enough

[buoyant sinew]

depends exactly how much mana you need!

[digital nest]

...generally massive amount I suppose

[buoyant sinew]

you can't get enough regen to spam meteor or something like that (without also reducing meteor's cost massively)

[digital nest]

atm trying to spam 1 2 and 3 element invocations at the same time while also proccing nova

[buoyant sinew]

you probably need a mixture of regen and cost reduction

[digital nest]

I'd love to unslot focus and put in runebolt or something

[buoyant sinew]

but?

[mossy hazel]

Thank you for the answer! Sort of confirms what I was experiencing. The hammer throw build looks pretty neat, although I can't say I'm convinced by the umbral blades XD Surely more skills will get better/more viability with mastery reworks, new item releases, warlock/falconer, skill balance etc.

[buoyant sinew]

I just showed those two because they're the two you mentioned. if you want a single damage skill build that's actually meta right now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dJDEt8tAo

I would say it's pretty close to 50/50 for strong builds between single damage skill and multi-skill

[mossy hazel]

Oh yeah, I know 😄 I appreciate the links. Ooo frostclaw is a skill I really enjoy the feel of, might try that 👀

[buoyant sinew]

I've played that build myself, can recommend it

it's such good quality of life. you get very reliable ward generation, don't have to worry about ailments, don't have to manage mana...

and the damage is very high

really the only drawback is that the clear speed is just fine, not great

[mossy hazel]

Gotcha gotcha, I had a feeling maybe I just fell into the side of things where it's mostly multi-skill. AoD, Fire Aura, Forged Weapons as a primary damage source which all seem to fall off rather quickly and need help from something else.

[buoyant sinew]

yeah sounds like

[mossy hazel]

That's fine. Not like I expect juiced PoE zoomer clear XD

[buoyant sinew]

AoD and fire aura are also just a bit weak right now. there are definitely some skills that just suck and aren't worth using compared to similar alternatives, unfortunately

[mossy hazel]

So I read (and felt). One day I'll have my shiny AoD build.

[buoyant sinew]

yeah I really want poison lich to be good 😦

[mossy hazel]

I just want to not feel like I have to play reaper/death seal. Got high hopes for Warlock

[buoyant sinew]

haha same. I don't haaaate reaper but death seal is so miserable to use

will definitely be playing warlock on launch too

[mossy hazel]

Yeah, that's how I feel. Reaper is eeeh I'll take it. But as soon as I tried death seal I was just out lmao

[buoyant sinew]

at least you can have "100% uptime" on reaper and let the cooldown expire between echoes

[mossy hazel]

True true

[digital nest]

How is death seal miserable?

[pine trail]

ugh rubber banding sux

[buoyant sinew]

you have to constantly and carefully manage the timing (you can't even hold it down because that ends it early), and it's a build-around buff that doesn't have 100% uptime

[mossy hazel]

0 ward low life. As soon as it falls off you have a moment of danger as your defenses drop off a cliff.

[buoyant sinew]

it's very subjective but either of those things alone would make it feel unplayably bad to me personally, never mind both

[mossy hazel]

Feels spooky and not fun imo

[digital nest]

Huh. I never noticed. My necro feels so tanky.

Just running around with 2 health bars

[buoyant sinew]

2 health bars is reaper form not death seal

[digital nest]

I run both

And heal my full HP per hit with cursed strike

My damage doesn't seem great tho

[desert tree]

But it's not a necro then

[mossy hazel]

I'm guessing acolyte got a name change in this instance

[desert tree]

Acolyte is the base class.
Lich and Necro are the masteries

[digital nest]

Ah

I just misnamed it

It's a lich

[pine trail]

Honestly going into this rune master I thought meh, I probbly won't like it, but man this class is amazingly fun and adictive

[sinful laurel]

The worst part about RM is how sad and aged it makes a lot other masteries look

[pine trail]

Heh this is true

Makes my necro look sad to be honest

Not that necro is bad, but RM is just crazy good

[sinful laurel]

Not that other masteries are bad. They are just mechanically...less

Understandably so ofc

[pine trail]

My main story quest isn't showing on the right side, is there a setting I may have inadvertently checked that toggles that on and off or is it a bug maybe?

I see side quests fine, jsut no main

[small mulch]

Hi I got a question regarding Flurry (Rogue skill) and life leech, anyone thinks they have some knowledge regarding that?

[sinful laurel]

Shoot

[small mulch]

This right here, is for the main flurry, which is straight forward

However, what if you skill this one

Does it just nullify the life leech in general? Because it doesnt have first second and third anymore?

[sinful laurel]

You channel through the three strikes over and over

Afaik

[small mulch]

Hmm

Then is there a bug this ?

Because this one, doesn't increase the stacks at all

[sinful laurel]

No, that's a snapshotting issue