❔┃ask-the-community

[native sail]

It does though, because if an item trying to be hidden by those rules gets caught by another rule they're going to show still and this person is going to be confused and/or frustrated and come right back here.

[balmy current]

If both rules would hide an item then yes, it doesn't matter which is first. If one rule would hide an item then it only gets applied if it's the top one.

So I'm a bit confused as to why one would have 2 different rules that might hide the same item.

[fervent glade]

Because one hides wands and the other hides blue/white items

If they were the same rule it would only hide blue/white wands

[balmy current]

ok

[radiant oyster]

When an item says this for example per Lastepochtools.com:
Do I need to be L78 or the enemy NPCs or both??

[faint cape]

Requires level means area/enemy level. Effective level for LP is just a weighting for LP rarity (higher = rarer)

And you do need to be that level to equip it

[radiant oyster]

Ok, thanks. Is it even possible to get the normal monolith (The Stolen Lance) to L78 by increasing the corruption? Every time I try to do a unique node at Legendary level I get wrecked and lose the rewards.

[faint cape]

I don't remember the max you can increase area level by corruption, but I don't think it's possible to go that high - those "unique or set X" nodes' spawn rates are based on corruption, so it's generally not worth farming for those on normal mode

[radiant oyster]

Ok, thanks for the advice

[wide sentinel]

if you have issues with farming lvl 100 monolith then something is not right with your build for sure, try asking in class channels

almost every decent build usually shreds lvl 100 mono and up to 200 corruption easily

[kind bramble]

i got home and was able to fix it and it worked thank you guys @native sail @balmy current

[radiant oyster]

Last time I tried to farm L100 I was L86 and I am using this build guide. https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/hungering-souls-lich-guide
Guess I am just not good. 💀

[candid elm]

I liked this Lich build more than the Hungering Souls one https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/death-seal-lich-guide
If you wanted to give it a try.

[radiant oyster]

Also still on my first playthrough, so learning a lot as I go through LE.

[candid elm]

I also tried the Marrow Shards one https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/marrow-shards-lich-guide but I didn't enjoy trying to aim it

[radiant oyster]

I was doing better I felt with Transplant over Soulfeast slotted. Problem is I do not do enough damage and the modifiers get me every time I try to do a unique node.

[radiant oyster]

I'll give the Death Seal Lich a shot. It's very similar to my current build.

[candid elm]

Yeah all of those 3 Lich builds are pretty similar. It was easy to respec and try them all.

[dense yew]

Does anyone know if the Master Archer nodes in Marksman that imcreaes multishot arrows have impact if I have the Heavy Arrows node? (3 arrows max).

Or for example, Ancient flight?

[surreal verge]

Heavy Arrows will lock it, so master archer won't do anything.

[dense yew]

Thanks for that

[forest steppe]

Quick Question; Does Lighting blast and Elemental Nova scale with Crit Chance or Spell Crit Chance? Thanks in advance 🙂

[surreal verge]

Both.

[sick basalt]

Are there any stuff or skills that autocasts maelstorm

[surreal verge]

There is but I heard they're dogshit, there's an idol affix that does it.

[desert tree]

Idols, unique amulet

[surreal verge]

Now for the important question:
Do their chances stack together or do they roll independently

[desert tree]

The problem is you never get a lot of stack, it's nice if you want to do single stack maelstrom, but who want that

That's is a very good question

[surreal verge]

IF they stack so that you can do 100% 1 stack per 5 seconds then it isn't TERRIBLE

If they don't then it becomes a fucking rollercoaster.

[desert tree]

Can you test?

[surreal verge]

I wish, the only primalist I have is a Beastmaster

[sick basalt]

Ok I need this

[knotty tinsel]

I'd strongly assume so, since they're an identical stat just from different sources

[fading imp]

How fast can you guys go through campaign for the idols/passives on a new char for echos? Deciding if I wanna start a rogue tonight and got like 2 hours

[knotty tinsel]

not in 2 hours for me but also not much longer than that

[surreal verge]

Logic wise yeah, but I've been proven wrong on logic before

[fading imp]

By not much longer do you mean beyond 4 hours or no

[knotty tinsel]

honestly could not tell you without doing it again right now and keeping track, just anecdotal.

For me it's just "pretty fast" which is neither what you asked nor helpful to you rn, sorry 😦

[fading imp]

It’s ayt man thanks for taking the time to reply! Any help is appreciated

[faint cape]

The % chances add together

Idk if it stacks beyond 100%, but I assume not

[rich citrus]

@robust mortar can you link me your warpath smite build?

isit like whirlwind/cyclone in other games? im new.

[strong agate]

Hey guys I havent been updated for a while, but have they mentioned atleast an estimate launch for 1.0?

[cedar locust]

The team is aiming to launch 1.0 this year!

[strong agate]

[fresh aspen]

watch as they announce date on gamescom

hopium

olam stares intensely

[surreal verge]

Most likely end of year since they mentioned that already, but no dates-

[robust mortar]

For sure dude, let me put it on last epoch tools and then I will get it your way (I work a 12hr shift today so it might be tomorrow when it get it to you)! I am not following a guide for it just going off of what feels good. Yes it’s pretty much like a cyclone build in POE!

[round wagon]

For the last 2 days I have been getting constant crashes in LE. Right now I can't even start the game. I tried checking the game's files integrity, to no avail. What should I do? Submit a ticket?

[cedar locust]

Make sure steam and your graphics drivers are up to date too - are you getting any error messages when it crashes?

[round wagon]

There is an error message box, but it is empty

Steam is uptodate, I'll check my drivers..

[cedar locust]

Can you grab me a screenshot of the empty box? I'm wondering if it's from Steam or from the game 🤔

[round wagon]

Looking at the player log, it seems like it is an Unity error... Resources not being found. I am currently reinstalling drivers and game, I will let you know if it works afterwards...

[rich citrus]

great link/ping me when you could. cu ✌️

[cedar locust]

Oh I've seen this! Let me discord and forum dive quickly!

[cedar locust]

This Forum thread has a variety of potential solutions - https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/unity-crash-when-after-0-9-when-trying-online-play/52526/17

It's also worth looking up 'Steam Unity Crash' just incase it's an issue through Steam!

[round wagon]

Alright, thanks, I will have a look if I have any further issues!

[robust mortar]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/nu01044g
Cheers! Here is what I am feeling for final passives and skills! I don’t have any equipment in there but that should give you a good start, if you have any questions let me know!

[rich citrus]

thanks alot mate. ill check it out soonish .
🤘🏻

[cobalt galleon]

Does anyone know how long support usually takes to answer?

[dense root]

7-10 business months

[knotty tinsel]

4 minutes and 3 seconds

now pick somewhere inbetween those two and that's a proper answer 😛

[fading imp]

Just wondering game says im in ch 5, but the checklist in letools says this area is ch 7?

[iron zealot]

I heard Rogue got nerfed quite a bit in 0.9, but I never got to play it when it was "strong." What do you guys think of its current state?

[buoyant sinew]

blade dancer still has some very OP builds

marksman is still pretty good but the tree is annoying and black arrows are still a giga meme (not that either of those are new to 0.9)

[native sail]

The reactions to the nerfs were greatly exaggerated. Rogue (Bladedancer more than Marksman) is still incredibly good. BD is by far one of the strongest specs in the game when done right.

[iron zealot]

Do you have a couple build links that highlight it? I'm curious what the playstyle even looks like.

[native sail]

(fucking laptop, sorry)

I don't have any on hand that aren't my own nonsense creations for fun which will not perform, but there are many online and Leo (who frequents #💬┃general) is the resident BD corruption pusher. Commonly used main skills are Shurikens (specced for Chakram), Shadow Cascade, Umbral Blades, and Lethal Mirage (this one is less common because it's cooldown based and requires a lot more setup)

[iron zealot]

Does he post content or guides?

[native sail]

Not that I am aware of but he has posted planners several times of what he is playing and what is better than what he is playing

[iron zealot]

I tend not to like planners because they generally use gear I won't see for a long time and the info I'm interested in is more along what skills they use, how they spec it, what synergies they play on, and what stats to prioritize

[native sail]

You may find something along the lines of what you're looking for on YouTube or the builds section of LETools, but odds are they will be a little rough around the edges as most things made for showcases and guides are really not entirely optimized due to the time investment it takes to get anywhere close to minmaxing in LE

[cedar locust]

Hi there, whats up?

[cedar locust]

Hmmm, not sure on that one. Do you have a link to the LETools page I can check?

[desert tree]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvPG3WeUVN4

Perry's version but basically the same

[cobalt galleon]

I was looking how to merge my game to steam. Support answered me after 10 minutes and my problem was solved.

[cedar locust]

Fantastic! Glad it was sorted for you! And,

[cobalt galleon]

Thank you. Looking forward to see what has changed since I played it in 2020

[cedar locust]

Well, the answer is a lot 😅 Let me know if you would like some links other players have found useful 🙂

[robust mortar]

I am that same way, like I want to know more about the leveling of the character because from there I can figure out the end game! I plan on starting a blademaster here soon and I am going to be recording and posting the progress for that reason!

[iron zealot]

Cool. Yeah, I don't like "endgame builds" in the sense of having everything pre-planned out because games that don't have clear endpoints for itemization or efficient methods for target farming mean that understanding the process to get there is more important than the actual details of that plan.

[robust mortar]

So true. Plus i feel if you learn/understand the process you are able to adapt and repeat it for other builds.

[cedar locust]

#BDSuperiorty!

The good thing about LE is how easy it is to respec if you don't like something 🙂

I personally haven't used a single guide or loot filter yet and only hit my first wall at a Ch8 Boss fight - I am now runnign Echoes while I 'fix' my build, still no guides though I am getting advice from #💬┃general occasionally 😊

[crude musk]

Hello everyone o/, dunno if this is asked before or if i am the only one stoppid to not get this; What is ment by stats on this item on the gloves julra's Obsession? (soz for my bad english)

[robust mortar]

True! That is something I have enjoyed a lot about LE is how easy it is to respec something mid game. You don't have to completely restart a character to rebuild it which is * click * noice!

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[surreal verge]

Anything that's on the gloves will apply to minions as if the affixes had "minion" on them.

Eg: If you give it "chance to blind on hit", it would also be "Minion chance to blind on hit"

[crude musk]

Tysm for the reply, so if i would get a +50 spell dmg for minions or +50 cast speed for totems would ALL my minions get that affix, so i have 11 minions, would that be 11 X +50 spell dmg for minions?

[surreal verge]

Your minions EACH will get +50 spell damage.

With your example.

[crude musk]

👍 ty for the answer.

[sterile sandal]

does the druid 70% damage reduction upon leaving transformed state apply to changing to any form, or just into human?

[candid elm]

Hmm, I'm not sure. It does say, "When leaving a transformed state". That sounds like it says when going from something back into human. If you don't get anyone in here who knows for sure, you can also ask in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[sterile sandal]

I've always interpreted it as "only going to human" but I wanted to make sure

there's no icon that appears or other way to check in game

[candid elm]

There's other talents, like Shapeshifter, that just say "when you transform"

[sterile sandal]

it'd be massively OP if it was into any form

I'd have a near permanent 70% damage reduction if that was the case

[candid elm]

Well, if you were constantly shifting between forms every couple of seconds

[faint cape]

"Leaving a transformed state" could just mean leaving any form other than human. We'd have to ask a dev or test it (unless we can find a dev response from the past).

I don't think it would be massively OP. It would be mega-clunky.

[sterile sandal]

mega clunky transforming every 3 seconds? then add warcry's 1 second invulnerability?

only transforming back into human, just tested

[drowsy hornet]

If i wanna increase frostbite dmg, should I target overall dot/ele dot dmg or increase attunement to leverage the Chitin sleet storm node (attunement boost freeze rate multi) as a druid/swarm blade + snowdrift boots

[faint cape]

You'll need both, alongside application chance and attack speed. If you have a total of 600% penetration, it's basically the same as 600% increased damage, so usually whatever you have the least of you want more of that (unless the thing you have more of you can just get a lot more of for the same cost).

[drowsy hornet]

Good to know! Seems like it easier to stack ele/dot dmg if

5% FRM =1% cold pen = 1% increased dmg

So with the Chitin Sleet node maxed out -

+1 attunement = 30% FRM = %6 cold own = %6 increased frostbite damage

[quiet stone]

I'm trying to do a respec to remove a point, and it won't let me remove the last point in Wraith Bringer. Am I missing some reason why I cannot?

[native sail]

You have a node relying on it from what I can see.

[quiet stone]

I get that it's a link to Spirit Link on the bottom left, but I also have the prereq Delay the End to the right of that which should unlock it too.

[native sail]

Nope. That one isn't linked to anything.

[quiet stone]

Ohhhh, oops, I needed to look farther, I see it now. I don't have Grave Reality which leads to that node.

.< My bad.

There were yellow lines on both side, and I totally missed it was 0/2.

[native sail]

All good, happens to everyone at some point

[steel drum]

Is it possible to play while my internet is down? Looks like I still need to ping the server to play offline.

[pastel pebble]

Yeah, just for log in

True offline is coming down the line!

[steel drum]

Hmm, interesting. Guess I won't be playing until my internet is back haha. Thanks for the fast response!

[faint cape]

Attunement will most likely apply 4% increased damage per point to your frostbites in addition to the FRM/penetration. I think all the swarmblade skills scale with attunement.

[drowsy charm]

hello, may I ask if the bone curse still work with hungering soul?

cause I don't see the hunger soul hit recasting bone curse, according to the Cursed Limb node

[safe harness]

its possible to hotspot from your phone to log in, then turn the hotspot off and play an offline character

[faint cape]

Yes, it does. It has a much shorter recast duration if you take the 'always crit' node.

[iron zealot]

I can't seem to find a Flame Reave / Firebrand / Enchant Weapon ignite build anywhere, but the concept I'm trying seems to make sense. Exothermic (Firebrand) + Flare, attack 3-4 times, Flame Reave with Slash & Burn (and whatever else sounds good, maybe more aoe), into Searing Conflagration from Enchant Weapon... I'm only level 50-something, but can pile on about 50 stacks before I detonate it. Seems alright, just not sure how well it will scale later.

Anyone tried this sort of build and have some pointers/caveats I should know about?

[drowsy charm]

does the flame wraith scale with tag minion necrotic dam?

[native sail]

Flame Wraiths deal fire damage inherently. You can give them necrotic damage from a few sources but increased minion necrotic damage will only scale the necrotic, not all of their damage

[drowsy charm]

thanks, so best scale is still on minion dam & minion fire dam

[drowsy charm]

How's your oppinion on the Blind Fury mode, flame wraith build

40% cast speed exchange for halves crit chance, worth or not

Halves here = decreased 50%, right?

[native sail]

Absolutely not worth it. You want 100% crit on them

[gritty creek]

I have cryomancer node on skeleton mages but can't seem to summon them, just summoning skeleton mages

[surreal verge]

It should be shared between, unless you got something else, show your skill spec.

[surreal verge]

Mhm, this should make it so half your total skele mages are normal ones and the other half are cryo.

[gritty creek]

relogged and working, maybe every time i add points i need to relog

[drowsy hornet]

Good point - I stacked attunement + dot damage and now I'm melting things.

[quiet stone]

If I have two dread shades, do any of their buffs from aura stack?

Congregation of Shades allows you to have Maximum Shades +1, but I don't know if that would double the necrotic damage, or attack/cast speed buffs I have it giving.

[pastel pebble]

I've done that before. It works out well enough

Doesn't use a terrible ampunt of data

[desert tree]

I am 99% sure auras don't stack

[cedar locust]

Based on previous answers in Discord - Dread Shade auras don't stack, only one set of buffs per minion

[surreal verge]

No.

[surreal verge]

Did you know that you could cast 5 dread shades unspecced?

That just makes it 6.

The only reason you mostly see one dread shade is that most people take the limit to 1 but double its duration and convert hp drain to damage taken

Because it's basically the best node

[quiet stone]

Thanks for the advice. :D

[quiet stone]

Oh, that's good to know, thanks!

[faint cape]

yeah, unless you are actively trying to kill your minions at least, because that's what dread shade will do otherwise

[fiery grove]

how is monolith progress shared between chars? i have some waypoints unlocked but some arent

[sinful laurel]

It's not

[fiery grove]

oh, weird then, cause my alt can access black sun, but i never went there

[sinful laurel]

Hmm not sure but monolith progress is per character, unless something changed

[fiery grove]

maybe it picked up the waypoint when i joined my friend

[sinful laurel]

That is more likely

[faint cape]

Yep, only way to pick up waypoints or unlock monos without grinding through it yourself is by joining a party. The fact that this can be trivially done by partying means that hopefully we'll get the unlocking part shared between characters eventually... we can dream, at least.

[glad ibex]

any way to skip campaign on an alt?

[surreal verge]

There''s a way to fast track campaign via T1 dungeons.

But you'll still need to do side quests for the 15 points and the idol slots.

[glad ibex]

okay 😦

[quiet stone]

Is there a way to try for an idol with a specific modifier? I have a build that wants me to get some +flame wraith% chance stuff, and I've only found one so far and need a second. But I don't have the slightest idea how to raise my chances of getting one.

[desert tree]

There are blessing to Inc your chances to get specific shapes of idols.

If you know which one you need you should grab that

Otherwise there no way to "force" an affix on an idol

Make sure you do all the idols echoes

[quiet stone]

Like these kind of blessings?

That's a good point. I'll work towards idol echoes. Thanks for the tip. ^^

[desert tree]

Yep

I can have a look if you want

What shape do you need?

[quiet stone]

Uhh.. adorned?

Is that considered large?

[desert tree]

It's adorned

[quiet stone]

Oh, adorned is the shape

Good to know. ^^

[knotty tinsel]

large is also a specific shape

little confusing but if you know you know

[desert tree]

So the blessing for that is in fall of the outcast

[knotty tinsel]

thats a nasty idol also

[desert tree]

Yep

[quiet stone]

Yeah! That idol is perfect for the build I'm trying to do (the explody skeleton one)

If I could get another, that'd be real sweet

Looks like Fall of the Outcasts has the Sight of the Outcasts blessing which increases drop chance for large idol

[desert tree]

There is a lot of blessing available per timeline

[quiet stone]

It's not just 3?

Ohhh.. the undiscovered blessings changes for each area! I didn't realize I could unlock more blessings than the 3 it gave me a choice for when I completed a timeline..

[desert tree]

You are offered 3/4/5 after beating the timeline

But there are roughly 10 per timeline

[quiet stone]

I really appreciate all this help. ❤️

Is there a way to get it to offer me another choice to be able to pick up that adorned bonus?

I just went till I finished the timeline, got the choice, and then moved on to the next.

[desert tree]

Beat the boss again

[quiet stone]

My highest level is 75, so I'm a bit newb still. ^^;

I'll start working on that then, thank you!

[quiet stone]

Aha! That should at least help! Thank you for the advice. ^^

[jolly pulsar]

similar to how endurance scales with lifepool, does Health regen do the same? like is there an flat % life regen by default?

just tested, nop

there's an flat 16 life per second i think but doesn't scale with life

[desert tree]

No it doesn't

[iron zealot]

It might be worth mention that whatever hp regen you can get does scale nicely with defensive layers, though. Even just the dmg rdx from Endurance means that each point of healing is effectively that much stronger.

Is this good enough to build around?
https://i.imgur.com/OoXGpDV.png

[desert tree]

I have seen quite a few people building with it, pretty successfully

[sinful laurel]

Jelkhors builds are very fun

[jolly pulsar]

i kind of feel like regen would be beat by health leech pretty badly thouugh

i'm thinking maybe i should focus more on health stacking and maybe mana stacking as well, and get an damage taken from mana chest piece

like if i go the vessle of strife way i feel like there's so many affixes that goes into health regen and it won't scale my endurance treshold

i will probably end up trying both, depends on what i find

i've thought of investing more into armor as well, but there's just so much one man can do

[iron zealot]

Whichever one heals you most effectively is what scales better. I'm more saying that defensive layers apply to "effective healing" in the same multiplicative fashion that they do to eHP.

[jolly pulsar]

sustain isn't really my worry, all that worries me are oneshots
though health regen is really really nice on huge damage chunking as well, just not as effective against an actual oneshot

[iron zealot]

Well, sustain = 0 vs one-shots, lol

[jolly pulsar]

yeah xD gotta have increased pool and DR for an actual oneshot

but i might be worrying about the oneshot a bit too much and that sustain is more important, there's not so many instances of oneshots usually so far

this game does this dilemma really well, everything feels like an balance rather than an one stop shop for each defensive layer, like i can't have everything, and that makes it cool

though if i go the Manashield way i'm also gonna need more mana regen, though my builds already needs a lot of it, i still need more

i think i should just play and whatever i find i'll make use of

[iron zealot]

I think what some players do is go with a little less defense, a little more sustain, and try to include some mobility to dodge mechanics that can one-shot since most of those are pretty avoidable. Basically, they overcome gear deficiency through player skill. The other big piece of this is to make sure to cap your incoming crit chance reduction to avoid random one-shots that aren't so avoidable.

[jolly pulsar]

oh, true, that's also an good stat to have

yeah i kinda feel like getting a bit of everything is a good way to go, it might not fully protect me against oneshots, but it will make me very durable on sustain, and mobility is very good as well, having good movement speed and also Teleport is really good

this game is just really good at making you have to make choices, and every choice makes an impact

[faint cape]

No, your base health regen only scales with your level

[jolly pulsar]

i think the one advice i would give to any new player, something i learnt from my first char and my second is that if you're stuck wondering about gear upgrades and sitting in town trying to craft and fix your gear a lot, it's better to just keep on grinding mobs cause you're bound to find some GG piece of gear eventually that'll make everything click

oh with level?

cool

oh and having proper item filters set up for what you're looking for as well, makes everything go by faster, less looking at items and more just killing things

[faint cape]

Yeah, they are really strong in my experience, and really common with low LPL, so easy to get a couple good legendary ones to dual wield

(relatively easy, I mean)

[faint cape]

If you're able to continue dealing damage, yes. I've run a few shattered lance builds (scales health regen for damage) and I can say at high investment regen is very strong and definitely saved me quite a few times.

[jolly pulsar]

yeah i imagine getting stunned with just leech for sustain could be bad, especially since it stops while at full life
i had 50% of my health regen per sec on my other char and it was really amazing

i'm just not gonna worry too much xD

but yeah regen will be my focus for now as i work my way towards empowered monoliths again

[faint cape]

Leech doesn't stop at full life in this game btw, each stack just lasts for a duration

[surreal verge]

3 secs exactly.

[faint cape]

either way, I think not worrying too much is a good strategy

yeah, 3s or less if you have leech rate

[surreal verge]

This is why Death Seal Liches' Hp can go from 33% to 100% in the 5 frames Death Seal goes down.

[fiery grove]

Has anyone gotten the most recent patch 0.9.1 to work on steam deck?

I just keep getting an error that steam is required

[surreal verge]

That... sounds like a very oddly specific issue, I assume you verified your game files?

[fiery grove]

Yeah I just keep getting the steam is required message although I’m launching from steam

Nvm a restart fixed it

[surreal verge]

Whack, good to know turning it on and off again worked.

[sterile bane]

Was there a dev stream yesterday??

[icy drift]

Yes, there won't be one next week though

[sterile bane]

Any major teasers??

[icy drift]

Nope, just dome visual update teasers

[sterile bane]

Dome???

[sinful laurel]

Some

[sterile bane]

Ahhhh makes sense

[sharp quartz]

Oh yes it is, best get 2 tho... and I got around the defensive problems with using Mountain boots & Endurance but there are many many ways to get it to work. Just be warned, the janky melee range issue for converted DA (its annoying to play around) isnt live/fixed on 0.9.1d3 - its apparently coming in the next patch.

[faint cape]

Oh yeah for sure, the melee range is really tiny. Thankfully it's fast and deals a ton of damage which lets you stun most things before they are able to get any hits off on you. The instant cone explosion and chain lightning nodes are super valuable for improving that feel.

[sharp quartz]

yeah.. I didnt go cone (more dps the other way imo), and chain lightning helps tremendously but you do have to stutter step sometimes to actually initiate a hit - and thats not great when you push higher corruption etc.

[faint cape]

You can squeeze a slight amount of dps by using the arming time stuff, doesn't seem worth it, but I didn't mess with it too much

[iron zealot]

Thanks for the tip. I'll hild off until I find a second one then. If I'm going to build around it, at least make sure the critical part is there, ya?

[iron zealot]

Is Forge Guard still meme or does it have good builds besides Man Armor now?

[surreal verge]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no.

It's at least a usable meme.

Oh also, some shield throw builds work.

[iron zealot]

I hope they fix it up more before 1.0 then. Thematically, I love it.

[wintry lion]

I'm stuck here. The bridge won't form. What can I do?

[surreal verge]

I assume you clicked on the non-rock part of the bridge already? If you did, try a relog

[candid loom]

Im a new player, and I hope I dont trigger anyone with this question but... is it on purpose that the UI looks SOOO much like Path of Exile?
I hate PoE btw. But everything from UI to item design seems extremely similar? was this on purpose or its just something that people try not to talk about?

[surreal verge]

[sinful laurel]

I don't think the UI is all that similar personally. If you have some evidence I could be swayed ofc. As far as the itemization I think that LE and Poe use some similar damage mechanic systems a la increased damage, more damage, but beyond that I think their item design philosophies are pretty different.

[candid loom]

Really?. I mentioned I hate PoE because Im not saying this like Im mad they copied PoE or anything, I couldnt care less, and its not a bad UI at all, but everywhere I look, its almost copypasted from PoE. From the HP Pool to the look of the items, the inventory, the cosmetics inv, I dunno, everywhere I look, it reminds me of PoE.

[sinful laurel]

The core gameplay and combat feel that arises out of the different itemization decisions and mechanics is pretty different too. Poe is just run as fast as you can and kill everything before it moves for 99% of the content. The mana mechanics here alone necessitate very different gameplay overall

[candid loom]

Its not a bad thing per se, it just surprised me. Tbh I would prefer it they said "yeah we love PoE and we took inspiration from it" rather than "what? similar? what do u mean? u crazy."

[sinful laurel]

I mean health globe is a health globe. Idk how to truly differentiate that. But beyond that I don't see much similarity at all. To each their own I guess 🙂

[pastel pebble]

I mean they both do take inspiration from D2 IIRC

[candid loom]

it even has the blue glow lmao

[candid loom]

I played D2 for 10 years, played Remastered when it came out, and tbh none of them remind me of d2 :p

[sinful laurel]

Nothing else in that UI is at all similar to LE though. How else would you represent and energy shield over the characters "life force"

[candid loom]

the inventory is very similar, the 2nd inventory for cosmetics is pretty much copypasted, the shop is similar.

[pastel pebble]

Most ARPGs do the same inventoru

[candid loom]

For example? because I believe I played them all, from D2R, D3, D4, TL2 and 3, Van Hellsing Final Cut, Grim Dawn, Wolcen etc etc and never seen such similarities.

[sinful laurel]

How is the inventory similar? Because they are both grids of squares? The UI details are completely different iirc, been a while since I played Poe. Also, in that case, d2 has the exact same UI for inventory too right?

[pastel pebble]

TL2 had the same inventory management

[surreal verge]

[sinful laurel]

This seems kinda silly lol

[pastel pebble]

Like IDK how else to put it

Like they use lil boxes

[surreal verge]

I don't actually know, and honestly I couldn't care less

I still call this PoE Lite if I need to explain this game in 2 words-

[candid loom]

Im not talking about the functionality of having slots, Im talking about how it looks, but ok, it must be me XD

[sinful laurel]

Yeah IDK man, I don't see it lol

[pastel pebble]

I've been bouncing between both and I don't feel it as much TBH

[sinful laurel]

There are base building blocks that EVERY single arpg uses for UI, because you kinda have to. Beyond that, I see very little to no similarity

[knotty tinsel]

When I started playing LE I just got off a bent of PoE and it felt very very different to me

[candid loom]

still, just starting a ranger (bought it a long time ago but was waiting for multiplayer, just now I have some time to start) and the game looks amazing. and honestly the gameplay feels LESS clunky than PoE's

like in the middle between poe's clunkiness and Diablo

[knotty tinsel]

that bar isn't very high to be fair

[pastel pebble]

I like LE's pace a lot more. I feel like I actually get to see enemies attack patterns and moves

[sinful laurel]

D2 clod is a very clunky game haha.

I just happen to have enough nostalgia to like that

[candid loom]

yeah, was comparing it to D3 which is still the top tier smooth gameplay for me

[pastel pebble]

I couldn't really get into D3

[sinful laurel]

D3 is too smooth though imo

[knotty tinsel]

in last epoch, I can recognise enemy types, know what big mob's attack patterns are, and strategize around that. In Poe I say DEATH OR GLORY IM RUNNIN' IN and what happens happens

[sinful laurel]

You don't have to do...anything or think about...anything

[candid loom]

I played D2 way too much but tried Remastered and couldnt stomach it for more than a season, that game did not age well

[sinful laurel]

Also this probably isn't the best channel for this continued discussion 🙂

[balmy current]

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Both games are in the same genre so it's not surprising if the UI, etc are similar.

[low stone]

I'm trying to fill out a bug report. How do I collect a game log?

[raw fern]

https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260805192629-The-Game-s-Log-File

[low stone]

Thank you. This should probably be added to the bug repoting guide.

[iron zealot]

I think the UI is a lot closer to D3, personally. That said, there are just some common expectations from ARPG players:

• Health bubble on the left
• Mana bubble on the right
• Action bar in the middle
• All of these at the bottom
• Minimap in a corner
• Quest tracker and hand-holding arrows to make sure you don't have to think to progress while you conveniently skipping all the quest dialogue and make the voice acting moot
  

[pastel pebble]

Secondary health shields are usually blue or yellow

[faint cape]

map overlay or bust

[iron zealot]

When you build around this, is your itemization more like that of a caster, but with melee attack speed, life on hit, and debuff procs?
https://i.imgur.com/J8grWnE.png

Is the melee dmg portion something to be worth focusing on?

Also, are the Smites from this proc free, or does it act like the MS node itself?
https://i.imgur.com/sjTPSHI.png

The tags for MS and Smite have no overlap. Seems like you build more for the proc, ya?

[surreal verge]

Oh

Time to bring this up again

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/0Qd8Ym9Q

[iron zealot]

Why does it use Javelin in a MS build?

[surreal verge]

Battle standard traversal, and it can cast smite.

[surreal verge]

Oh, this isn't a MS build. This is a smite build.

But related since it DUAL WIELDS aurelis.

[iron zealot]

Oh, got ya

It seems weirdly invested in Block too, but I only see 7% from passives

And how would it use Shield Bash without a shield?

[surreal verge]

Oh, the block part is the funny part.

Part 1.

Part 2:

[iron zealot]

Ah, okay

I'm super not familiar with Sentinel, so I don't know all it's power nodes yet

[surreal verge]

Yeah, I realized when you were questioning javelin.

Sentinel has like 4 traversal options lol

[iron zealot]

Ironic that Juggernaught makes Shield Bash so good for anyone not using a shield, lol

[faint cape]

Yeah, you ARE the shield

[prime elk]

I’m thinking about buying this game. Diablo 4 has some serious balancing issues.

The building is complicating on d4 too. How is this game compared to d4?

[sinful laurel]

LE is good

[prime elk]

I just bought it.

Should I play online or offline? Do I get the same experience offline? I don’t normally join up with people.

[cinder fossil]

if you don't care about partying up then offline is fine

otherwise its the same

[prime elk]

Okay where do y’all go for build guides?

[cinder fossil]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ has pretty much everything

[prime elk]

I appreciate it.

Does that site have leveling builds?

[sinful laurel]

Yes but you really don't need them for LE. It's very good at letting you learn on the fly

[knotty tinsel]

it does but leveling is nowhere near as daunting in LE as you might expect from the genre

if you pick one "thing" and then just use skills that do that thing you'll be 100% fine

[iron zealot]

Respec is easy too. The only thing you can't is your mastery choice.

[prime elk]

Hm. Okay. So if I want to follow a endgame build do I start gearing towards after I choose my secondary class?

I’m still at character selection. Trying to decide on who I want to be. I know in Diablo I’ve always went rogue. But I’m not sure here yet.

[iron zealot]

I would honestly not even look at build guides until you have a couple characters lvl 80+

[sinful laurel]

Pick what sounds good and run with it

You'll have way more fun most likely

[candid loom]

I wasnt talking about what's there or where it is, but the graphical design of the UI. I hadnt seen anyone else do a cosmetics screen like this

[prime elk]

I need to watch a video showcasing each class. Lol

[iron zealot]

A lot of the game is pretty good at teaching you what you need to do

[iron zealot]

Yeah, it's basically same as PoE

I have a lot of gripes with PoE, but UI isn't one of them

[candid loom]

from what Ive seen, its loosely based on poe but much much prettier, colorful and less confusing. like it.

[sinful laurel]

If ui is the approximate location of rectangles then I guess it's similar?

But that's the only similarity I see between the two lol.

[iron zealot]

It's more than that. It's also just the way the cosmetic UI operates.

[candid loom]

even the supporter packs are very very similar lol

[sinful laurel]

I guess idk why anyone would care about this. But eh you do you

[candid loom]

btw, is there some bs like improved tabs here like poe or just cosmetics?

[pastel pebble]

A lot of supporter packs tend to be like that??

No improved tabs

All tabs are in game bought with gold

[iron zealot]

No. You buy extra tabs with gold in game. You can customize their labels for your own sorting convenience, but that's about it.

[candid loom]

I dont "care", I was surprised by the HUGE similarities I was seeing and I was curious to see if its me or just common knowledge lol. If they take PoE, make it prettier and improve the mess, Im in.

[prime elk]

Haven’t even started playing and I’m already liking it more than Diablo due to loot filter. 🤣

[iron zealot]

They take what they like from games across the genre and use it.

Wolcen is the only other one I can think of that has dedicated skill trees for every skill, for example.

[candid loom]

I mean, PoE endgame I just cant stand, also looks ugly and gameplay is clunky. D4 is DoA. Wolcen... they still havent fixed online. Plays decently SP but the moment I go online, desync everywhere. GD, no online servers. LE is kinda my last hope haha

[iron zealot]

GD is fantastic, but if you want good multiplayer, D3 might be one of the better ones currently.

I supposed technically Lost Ark is a thing too

[candid loom]

I assume being early access there will be a wipe when 1.0 releases?

D3, I reinstall every 6 months or so but its always the same, be geared in a day, then infinite farm for better versions of the same item. Id rather have lower rates for "unique" items than common legendaries, primals and ancient primals.

[sinful laurel]

No

[candid loom]

Lost Ark is a job, not a game XD

[iron zealot]

So is PoE, lol

[candid loom]

oh? all the people who started the moment multiplayer released will be way ahead of the people who are planning on getting it on release? (I got it a while ago, just curious)

[sinful laurel]

If you want to partake in the cycle you can and start fresh, but everyone will get access to seasonal/cycle content

[candid loom]

kinda, the lack of dailies make it more casual friendly for me tho, dailies ruin everything XD

[iron zealot]

I know. I hate that WoW started that crap and everyone else latched onto it.

A game should only feel addictive for as long as it's fun. It shouldn't be using Skinner Box and FOMO to drive it.

[prime elk]

I think I’m gonna go necromancer. Since I didn’t like what d4 did with the necro. Lol

[candid loom]

fomo is the thing I hate the most because Im weeeak. took me a long time to learn to say "its no big deal missing a few days of dailies"

[iron zealot]

Pets make me cringe, lol, but they are actually good in this game

[prime elk]

What is that character found?

[iron zealot]

It's SSF nonsense

[sinful laurel]

Solo self found from poe, if familiar

[knotty tinsel]

it means it will not have acess to any items or resources collected on any other characters.

source: I read the text in the image

[prime elk]

Oh. I’ll definitely disable it then. I read it too. But I was still confused. 🤣

How is this game for controller? I don’t wanna change inputs right now.

[fresh aspen]

Idk how Poe is seen as a job if you can have fun 2weeks into season and quit for 3 months for next

[cinder fossil]

i dont use a controller personally, but from what ive seen it works but its not perfect

[prime elk]

So there isn’t any difficulty settings?

[sinful laurel]

one difficulty, infinitely scaling enemy stats in endgame

if you want to

[prime elk]

If I want to?

[knotty tinsel]

yes

[sinful laurel]

you can scale that mechanic, corruption, as high as you want

its your choice

[prime elk]

I don’t see that setting anywhere.

[knotty tinsel]

you can snap your fingers and tone down the difficulty, or keep climbing the infinite mountain and see how far you get

[sinful laurel]

you will find it once you finish the campaign

you are worrying too much lol

just play

[knotty tinsel]

because it's not a button on a menu, it's the way you approach the game's mechanics

[knotty tinsel]

this basically

[prime elk]

That makes sense. I do overthink things a lot. I am having a much better experience than d4 already. Just gonna take time for me to adapt.

[sinful laurel]

yup, definitely ask questions here as you go. But just have fun 🙂

take your time

[knotty tinsel]

there is no punishment for not knowing stuff or failing mechanics other than having to stop and assess

[prime elk]

Yeah, d4 building was way too difficult for me. I always felt underpowered. They got some serious balancing issues.

[iron zealot]

It's because they built it to be a job and income sink

[prime elk]

Yeah, I already have a job. I don’t need another. That’s why I don’t play mmos. 🤣

[iron zealot]

Same, mostly

I'll sometimes get into Warframe or ESO for awhile

But I stay mostly away from them because it cuts too much into time to play other things

[prime elk]

Right? ESO is the only mmo I can tolerate really for a short time.

So I just unlocked specializations with the necro. I don’t know which would be more efficient to specialize.

Well optimal.

[sinful laurel]

Just depends on your desired playstyle. Necro is minions mostly, lich is generally a spellcaster with a morph

[prime elk]

Well in the end I want to focus on speed clears.

[sinful laurel]

Both can do that

Don't worry about efficiency. Worry about playstyle what is fun to you

[prime elk]

So far I’ve only seen one lich build and one fire necro and the lich looked more fun but I think the lich required you to set yourself on fire which I thought was weird. Lol

[sinful laurel]

Nah, not necessary at all lol

Fire wraith Necro basically plays like trapsin from d2, if familiar

[prime elk]

I didn’t play necro in d2r. I played the Amazon. Lol

[sinful laurel]

Imagine setting down a bunch of stationary turrets that spit damage at enemies.

But that's far from the only Necro build

Again. Do you want minions or no minions. Answer that basic question

[iron zealot]

Honestly, it only takes an hour or two to get a character to their mastery, so rerolling is very forgiving

[prime elk]

Well I choose necro for the minions. Lol

[sinful laurel]

Sounds good. Lots of ways to play it. Do what looks cool in the skill trees 🙂

[iron zealot]

I like Acolyte's skills a lot, but I'm not super thrilled with the masteries

[prime elk]

Will do. Now just trying to figure out which passive I want for the skeleton. Lol

They all sound good. 🤣

[iron zealot]

Most skills have some nodes that change the base behavior of the skill, so I'd read all the nodes and see what sounds fun

But I have to admit how much I dislike leveling Sentinel

He's super strong in the mid-late game when his build starts to come together, but his early skills feel really gimp if you're not throwing

[prime elk]

What is forging potential?

[sinful laurel]

One of the easiest characters I ever leveled was sentinel, forge guard

[iron zealot]

FP is the resource that caps how much you can craft an item

[sinful laurel]

What you craft with

[iron zealot]

Think of it like an energy bar, with each craft consuming a semi-random quantity of energy (displayed before you craft)

Once it his 0, you're done

Bricked item

[prime elk]

So I picked up a helmet with the same armor but higher forging potential, that means I should equip it right?

[iron zealot]

No

FP only matters for crafting

Doesn't give combat stats

[sinful laurel]

You'll find runes and glyphs that influence your crafting chances, and affix shards that you can use to craft specific stats

Forging potential doesn't matter at all for the power of the item, only tells you how much you can potentially craft it

[iron zealot]

There are good video guides on YT for understanding the crafting system. I personally like ZiggyD's.

[prime elk]

Ah okay. I’ll get the hang of this. Lol

[sinful laurel]

Also on this note, don't worry as much about the base armor value, you care more about the affixes an item has. You want to look out for minion damage affixes for damage potential for necro

Also health, resistances, etc for your defensive layers

[prime elk]

Ah that matters in the beginning? I know in d4 it didn’t. Lol

[sinful laurel]

If you start out now using the right items it will just make your journey more enjoyable. Don't hesitate to craft your items as you level

[prime elk]

I was so used to not being able to craft items in d4 I didn’t even think about it with this game. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

Crafting is a huge part of the gameplay here

[prime elk]

I may never return to d4 now. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

we are a small community still but those of us that stick around have been around for a while, for good reason

[native sail]

[sinful laurel]

idk what that means haha

but youre not supposed to shake a baby

[prime elk]

I sell items in the beginning right?

I haven’t seen a blacksmith.

[cinder fossil]

unless you're really wanting to buy runes of shattering early on i wouldnt worry about selling stuff

later on you get more than enough gold

[prime elk]

I’m out of inv space.

[cinder fossil]

inventory space?

you dont need to be picking so much stuff up

if you press Shift + F you can change your loot filter

i almost immediately hide all common (white) items, and then blue (magic) a little later on

[iron zealot]

Most items on the ground sell for trivial gold, not worth it

[prime elk]

I don’t understand the loot filter yet.

I think I got it now. I just have it set to show magic and up.

Probably need to make it where it only shows scepters for weapons too.

[faint cape]

yeah, imo this is a good choice - necro can also play self-cast kinda builds later if you decide you want to respec into that playstyle, not sure how good lich minion builds are

[faint cape]

did you put in a 'hide' condition? items pick the first on the list that they match and stick with that, and if they don't match any then they use 'show'

[prime elk]

No. Just for show.

[faint cape]

Ah, okay, if you only have 'show' rules and nothing else, your loot filter will do nothing

since the only thing you have it doing is the default thing items already do, which is get shown

typically, you will have a pretty broad 'hide' rule at the bottom of your filter and 'show' or 'recolor' rules above for things you want to see

[prime elk]

Should I only be using wands and scepters for a necro?

I’m working on hiding now.

[safe harness]

You’re doing spell damage?

Staffs are also spell damage

[prime elk]

Yeah.

So I found out there is a crafting menu not a blacksmith. How do I salvage? Lol

[iron zealot]

Does rune of Ascendance care about ilvl of the base?

Nvm, just found out

Lvl 30 base created lvl 75 unique

[faint cape]

Wands don't have minion modifiers outside uniques/sets - staves/sceptres, axes, swords, and spears do

[faint cape]

Using that crafting menu, there is a little hexagon for rune selection. Runes of shattering and runes of removal are the two methods for salvaging

[faint cape]

Yep, the only thing that matters is item type (like 2h axe). There is nothing else that influences the result in any way. (Ignoring special cases, like fractured crown)

[prime elk]

Okay so I put hide all weapons except scepters and wands. Why am I getting 2h axes?

[faint cape]

Do you have a 'show' rule above that 'hide' one?

[prime elk]

Yes.

[faint cape]

When an item drop, it reads through your filter from top to bottom and picks the first one that matches, so it's likely hitting that show rule

[prime elk]

I know what it is. I had it only hide normal stuff. I need to to set it to any rarity for hide.

Now it should be better.

[faint cape]

Oh yeah, that can do it, too

[prime elk]

I just deleted the rarity category.

When does survivability get better?

[faint cape]

I recommend putting a rule that shows all unique, set, and exalted rarity items near the top of your filter, that way you'll never risk hiding them

A lot of survivability comes from gear and/or idols, though it depends on class

[prime elk]

Oh I have that in the show rule. I have 2 rules in total. What I want it to show and what I want it to hide now.

Okay. I’m sure i won’t feel underpowered for too long.

[faint cape]

If you do hit a rough spot, enemies are generally themed to the content you're running, so you can just focus on a couple resists that match the enemies you're facing to get a boost. Health is pretty much always good though

[prime elk]

I’m seeing 2h axes again?

[faint cape]

It's probably hitting your 'show' rule, or your 'hide' rule is too strict

[prime elk]

Idk how to fix it. It’s already a bit complicated.

[faint cape]

I suspect you might be trying to put too many conditions into each rule

[prime elk]

I have 3 conditions in show and 2 in hide.

[faint cape]

can you screenshot one or both?

[faint cape]

Okay yeah that's it - these need to be split into multiple rules

[prime elk]

Wait, really?

[faint cape]

an item needs to match all the conditions in a rule to match the rule

so that hide rule for example, it'll only hide items that have one of those affixes and are one of the item types

it won't hide any normal items

[prime elk]

So for all the affixes I want to hide I have to create each individual rules?

So I deleted everything except for this now.

[faint cape]

nah, I think for what you're trying to accomplish, you want 2 show rules and 2 hide rules set up like:

• show unique/set/exalted
• hide bad item types
• show items with affixes you want
• hide normal/magic/(rare)

[prime elk]

Ah okay. Cool.

[prime elk]

What is blood splatter?

I’m just going in this blind on the skill build. I really have no idea what I’m doing. I hope it doesn’t matter.

[safe harness]

Blood splatter is a sub skill of rip blood

[prime elk]

It sounds weaker on paper.

[safe harness]

I think it gives it more aoe?

[prime elk]

I’m not specializing the second skill. I really don’t know what I’m doing and I’m eventually gonna mess it it seems like.

[safe harness]

There’s no downside to specializing in a skill

You can change it later

[prime elk]

I just want to make an improvement and not go backwards. Lol

[safe harness]

You can’t go backwards with skill specialization

Well, some nodes on skill trees change how to skill works, maybe in a way you won't want, but you can always just remove that point if it doesnt work out for you

[prime elk]

I’m still seeing swords and other stuff that’s supposed to be hidden.

I guess I’ll just ignore them.

The loot filter is probably one of those things that will never work for me because it’s complicating. I was excited for it too. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

Fyi if you Google heavyz loot filters, he has a premade base filters for each class that you can optimize from the base. It's what I use, they are really nice

[prime elk]

Thank you!

On Reddit?

I tried opening up the one on last epoch forums and this is what it shows,

How am I supposed to read that? Lol

I guess I’ll YouTube some loot filters.

[sinful laurel]

No no

Read the directions at the bottom of the forum post

You download the xml and paste it into your loot filter location in appdata

Then you activate the filter in game

And edit it in game

But it works decently well out of the box

@prime elk

[prime elk]

Honestly? I realized this when I was fiddling with the settings said something about paste clipboard then it clicked I was supposed to copy all that text then paste it. Lol

[sinful laurel]

You don't even copy the text. The whole downloaded file goes into the filters folder

The game reads the whole xml file

[prime elk]

Oh. But I think it still worked. It shows all the filters. If not then I’ll do it that way.

[sinful laurel]

I've never done it another way so. I guess if it works it works lol

[prime elk]

Well it was working for a moment then axes and swords started to appear. I’m gonna download it now.

Acolytes use daggers?

I’m using Heavy’z loot filter for acolytes and a dagger just appeared.

I guess we use swords too?

[sinful laurel]

acolytes can use any weapons that arent restricted to them yes

there are some very good caster daggers

[prime elk]

I downloaded the xml file. But it’s still showing common.

[sinful laurel]

did you activate the filter in the menu in game?

[prime elk]

I’m guessing that means it is activated?

Maybe I need to restart the game.

Nope still picking up commons.

I think I just need to accept the fact that I can’t get it to work.

[sinful laurel]

Nah don't do that, just click manage loot filter and look at the options. I would edit one for you but I'm not at home

[prime elk]

You mean this?

Is normal that bosses can easily one shot you?

[sinful laurel]

if you havent built up any defenses and you stand in an obvious big attack or ground effect, yeah

thats why all classes have multiple options for traversal

[prime elk]

I haven’t had the opportunity to build defenses yet.

I’m only level 10 right now.

[sinful laurel]

yeah that makes sense, with your first character and no twink gear or anything

[prime elk]

Twink gear?

[sinful laurel]

as a necro, let your minions do the hard work, you just focus on avoiding shit

[prime elk]

Oh okay.

[sinful laurel]

also as a first character and first time player, you have to actually engage with boss mechanics in this game

for some bosses it might take you a couple tries to learn their attack patterns and timings

its a good thing 🙂

[prime elk]

I’m pretty much leaving all weapons on the ground until I see a wand or scepter.

[sinful laurel]

dont do that!

look at the affixes, thats what matters

[prime elk]

It’s because the loot filter isn’t working for me.

I don’t use melee weapons.

[sinful laurel]

but you can

just because they are a "melee" weapon doesnt mean they are just for melee

melee weapons can roll with all useful caster affixes

or minion affixes

etc

[prime elk]

I also don’t know what these shards are.

[sinful laurel]

thats how you craft

pick up all shards

[prime elk]

I don’t know if these affixes are good. I mean I know anything to do with minions is good but the rest of it I don’t.

[sinful laurel]

neither of those are really great for you if you are letting your minions do most of the work

[prime elk]

Yeah I haven’t found any weapon yet that helps with minions. Lol

[sinful laurel]

have you found any minion related shards?

[prime elk]

No. I sold what I had earlier. But nothing to do with minions.

[sinful laurel]

ah, dont sell shards lol, also not worth

you will find plenty of gold later

dont sell any crafting mat

[prime elk]

Ah okay. Well I just don’t know how to salvage yet.

[sinful laurel]

you need runes of shattering, you will find them as you go

just focus for now on picking up all shards and crafting useful affixes onto your decent gear

[prime elk]

Oh. Yeah I saw one in the shop for 2k ea. that’s expensive. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

focus on your resistances and health for the most part for yourself

dont buy runes yet either

and focus on anything that says minion for your minions

[prime elk]

Okay. Sounds good.

[sinful laurel]

you will find some pieces of gear that have minion stats as implicits too

weapons, offhands

some armor pieces

just keep an eye out

[prime elk]

Implicits?

[sinful laurel]

the stats at the top of the item above the 4 main affixes

i.e. the two affixes below "base attack rate" on the two weapons you showed above

those are implicits based on the item type

check lastepochtools.com for details on base items

[prime elk]

Ah okay. You think that loot filter didn’t work because it’s 3 years old?

[sinful laurel]

nah, the post is 3 years old but the filter is up to date. notice it says 0.9 version 3

[prime elk]

Ah okay. Well idk then.

Surely they wouldn’t allow white items to be shown.

[sinful laurel]

they do below level 15

[prime elk]

Oh.

[sinful laurel]

for the very sake of being below level 15 and maybe needing them

all his filters are that way

[prime elk]

I always ignore whites if I have a blue or rare in its slot. Lol

[sinful laurel]

sure sure, but he is just creating a base for everyone

[iron zealot]

Rarity color doesn't matter. You want to target specific affixes.

[sinful laurel]

well except white haha, as it has none

[sterile sandal]

is roar of the woodland (bark skin) bugged? it doesn't seem to be adding any duration to thorn shield

my thorn shield stacks start to fall off as soon as I switch to werebear

[sterile sandal]

it seems to do something to the duration but I think it has a hidden cap on stacks or something

[jolly pulsar]

okay so question, with the legendary potential, can i add ANY stat from any item as long as it belongs to the same item slot?

for example could i get 2 handed stats on an one handed unique through legendary potential?
if not
how about an one handed melee weapon stat on say an wand unique?

or does it have to belong to the same item class as well? for example, shields on shields, wands only on wants etc

[urban horizon]

Item class specific so only wands can be used to craft legendary wands etc.

[jolly pulsar]

gotcha, so it's sorta restrictive then

i found an tier 7 spell damage sword, would have been sick to add that to like an wand unque or something like that

[surreal verge]

This

ALso, if you transfer a class specific affix, the unique gains the class requirement of the affix

[iron zealot]

This a bug?
https://i.imgur.com/BorOze5.png

[surreal verge]

Yup, there's like 3 of these unreachable chests now.

[jolly pulsar]

wow

i just found anouther unstable core off of the ground

it's better aswell! :D

[jolly pulsar]

woo! hit one mil gold for the first time! :)

[ivory hatch]

why is this so cursed?

3 suffixes, cant add 2nd prefix

[knotty tinsel]

0.9.xsomething, the affix increased chance to find potions was removed from rings, and existing items got this flat armour affix instead.

It's not super useful but a fun legacy item

[surreal verge]

Oh yeah, we did talk about this.

Do they STILL drop?

[knotty tinsel]

Not that I've seen or know of

[icy drift]

Don't think they do

[surreal verge]

At one point they rarely dropped when it just got patched

Dk about rn.

[faint cape]

Nope, and no way to obtain flat armor on rings nor upgrade existing.

[lime iron]

is there a way to get rid of the chatbug that makes the middle text lines invisible ingame?

it makes following any convo a minigame

not sure if this is the right channel

[cedar locust]

Welp, that's a new one to me! The best place to post this would be our Bug Forums here - https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports/23 - with this screenshot!

[lime iron]

will do, thx

[icy drift]

i don't think there's been a single time i've logged on and not had that bug lol

[lime iron]

hasn't happened after I posted, but been ongoing for me since before 8.5, figured it was common since it happened a lot

[iron zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/q83v7Rb.png

[prime elk]

Just got off work an hour ago. I still can’t get loot filters to work.

I downloaded Heavy’z loot filter. It shows it in my loot filter. But yet I still get items I don’t need.

Is this normal?

Like how would I know if it’s working?

[sinful laurel]

Did you customize it at all. Remember it's a base acolyte loot filter, as he has no idea what each player needs. You know it's working if shit is different colors

[prime elk]

What do I customize?

I did change which affixes I wanted at the bottom but I still get random affixes.

[sinful laurel]

Look at the filter details and look at the affixes he has chosen to highlight and not

Loot filters are hierarchical

[prime elk]

Hierarchical?

[sinful laurel]

So higher rules override lower rules

[prime elk]

What if I rose it to the top? Would it mess it all up?

[sinful laurel]

You may have shown affixes you want but you didn't explicitly hide affixes you don't want

[prime elk]

That’s because he doesn’t have a rule where to hide which affixes.

[sinful laurel]

It's the same rule. You just uncheck ones you don't want

I'm not looking at your filter but it should be pretty logical once you understand how the rules work

[prime elk]

Well then I did that. Because I checked the ones I wanted and left the others unchecked.

How can I show you my loot filter?

[sinful laurel]

Right. But those might be checked somewhere above in a rule that overrides

I won't be able to see it unless I'm in game, and I can't do that

[prime elk]

I didn’t mess with anything else.

[sinful laurel]

If I get home in a reasonable time tonight I can try and customize an acolyte filter for you. Just DM me the affixes you want

[prime elk]

Honestly I don’t even know what I need. I just choose whichever is for acolyte.

[sinful laurel]

Then idk what you mean you are getting affixes you don't want. The base heavyz acolyte filter should already be set that way

To show all acolyte affixes

[prime elk]

So these are all for acolyte?

[sinful laurel]

Potentially yes. But if those are getting through you should be able to find where they are getting through and uncheck them if you don't want them

If you JUST show acolyte class affixes you won't see really any of the gear you might need. Just fyi

Or maybe tell me groups of affixes you don't want to show, if that's better

[prime elk]

So I went through everything. Nothing is set to show for anything to do with melee.

That means it’s not working right? Or am I too low lever for it to work right now since I am only level 10.

[sinful laurel]

Wait...your still only level 10...

[prime elk]

Well yeah. I been trying to fix this.

[sinful laurel]

Lol. Nothing about the filter works until 15. I told you that

Get to 15, and then try

[prime elk]

I thought that was for common items. Sorry.

[sinful laurel]

All good, let me know when you get to 15

You could also turn off that rule but for you may just be easier to get to 15 🙂

[prime elk]

Okay sounds good.

Okay, I’m a bit confused. It says 25% csc which I thought is insane. But on my character stats I have 6% csc. Am I missing something here?

[sinful laurel]

most skills have a 5% base critical strike chance

25% is a 25% increase on the base

so 5 * (1.25)

also FYI, that crit chance does nothing for minions

[prime elk]

Ah okay. That makes sense.

I just got a rune of shattering.

[sinful laurel]

mmmm delicious tubes of shattering

[prime elk]

Damn auto correct. 🤣

Um. My mini map is gone?

I figured it out.

So I just figured out rip blood actually heals you. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

You can spec it not to but yup

[prime elk]

How can I respec my passives? Apparently I messed up.

[pastel pebble]

The person with the brain over them

Its fairly cheap

[prime elk]

Is my stats okay for my level?

Because I feel way underpowered right now.

[sinful laurel]

Honestly at level 13 nothing on this page really matters that much haha

[prime elk]

Okay. Because every enemy can almost one shot me. I have to spam rip blood constantly to stay alive.

How would I know if my dps would be higher if I equip this staff?

[sinful laurel]

At this point your passives probably matter more than anything. Also why aren't you letting your minions do all the work?

[prime elk]

That’s with my minions do all the work. I can’t stop the enemies from attacking me. Lol

[sinful laurel]

Are you attacking along with your minions?

[prime elk]

Yes. In the far back.

[sterile sandal]

anyone having issues with lightless arbor first boss phase?

[iron zealot]

If you're dying a lot, you need more hp/armor/resists/crit avoidance/endurance etc

[sinful laurel]

Well...don't. At least not until your minions have for a little while

[iron zealot]

Or you're standing in stuff you can avoid

[sinful laurel]

Level 13 lol

[iron zealot]

At that level, just add hp/vitality to your gear

[sinful laurel]

First character, playing solo character found

[prime elk]

Wait what’s character found again? Because I hope I made it where if I did create another character I’d have access to my resources.

That’s what it is right?

[iron zealot]

Character found is this game's version of SSF nonsense

[sinful laurel]

youre character sheet above specifically says character found

[iron zealot]

If it was unchecked, you can share with other characters

[prime elk]

It’s in the red. That’s good right?

[iron zealot]

(I love the pirated Windows reminder too, lol)

[prime elk]

Pirated?

You do know windows is basically free right?

So will I be able to access my resources on a new character?

[sinful laurel]

i have never had character found on my character sheet pretty sure

[prime elk]

So I messed up?

[sinful laurel]

Easy way to test

Make a second dummy char and see if you can see anything in your stash from the first

[prime elk]

So transplant seems like a useless skill even though it’s part of my leveling build. It does pretty much no damage 99% of the time.

[sinful laurel]

Transplant isn't for damage for you. Especially not right now

Transplant is to gtfo

[iron zealot]

Yeah, mobility is huge in this game. It's for utility too.

[prime elk]

Wait it’s like teleport for sorc in Diablo?

I get it now.

[sinful laurel]

Yup

Well. Mostly

[candid elm]

Yes and you can take Passives for it so that it gives you a defensive buff, debuff enemies, etc.

[sinful laurel]

You can build it some clever ways later

But for now use it to not die

Spec into it though for sure

Like sweet goat said. It has some nice defensive buffs

[candid elm]

I'd spec into it as your 5th skill. You can use the base version until then

[iron zealot]

I usually spec my mobility skill as my 3rd or 4th, but it's up to you

[candid elm]

Can always change your specializations as well

[iron zealot]

Yeah, weirdly, when I was newer to the game I was highly reluctant to because of the regrind involved, but now I just dgaf and do it willy nilly until I find what I like.

[prime elk]

I’m level 15 now.

Is there anything special I need to do to get the loot filter working?

[tender condor]

nah

[iron zealot]

Just a basic understanding of it

[tender condor]

most basic thing is just hide whites

[iron zealot]

I'd watch a YT guide or two about it if you need help

[prime elk]

Okay because I already have one downloaded.

[iron zealot]

But the spcifics of an "optimal" setup are going to vary from person to person, depends on their progress, depends on their goals, etc

[prime elk]

I just didn’t know I needed to be level 15 to use it until primeval told me.

[tender condor]

you dont

[prime elk]

Well it hasn’t worked yet.

[tender condor]

you can use lootfilter from the beginning

shift+F

have you selected the lootfilter?

[sterile sandal]

anyone having issues with lightless arbor?

[prime elk]

I’ve had this one set since last night and I still get things I don’t want.

[sinful laurel]

You do with heavyz, which I told them to use since they struggled making their own

[tender condor]

ah level scaling filter

[sinful laurel]

Shows everything until level 15, just to cater to new players with no twink gear

[prime elk]

Still not working.

[iron zealot]

It's not enough to download it. You have to actively select it.

[tender condor]

he has it selected here

[sinful laurel]

They did. We have been through all of this lol

[iron zealot]

https://i.imgur.com/yvkjx8a.png

[sinful laurel]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[prime elk]

I posted this earlier. But here it is.

[tender condor]

maybe the item is supposed to appear?

[iron zealot]

Lots of unchecked boxes in there

[prime elk]

Because I don’t know what they are.

[sinful laurel]

Those are unchecked because they are specifically for alt

Check them if you want to show gear for other classes

[tender condor]

this is why i advise people to just try and make their own lootfilters first

[sinful laurel]

They did

[iron zealot]

Same

[sinful laurel]

I promise

This is why I told them to try heavyz and customize it from there

[prime elk]

I could delete it then re set it up.

[iron zealot]

This is a really basic one that highlights certain kinds of items you might want, but it still displays all the "trash" too in subdued colors. Try it if you want. No pressure. It's quite far from "optimal" but it helped me when I started.

I recommend it more on the basis of using it to learn how the filter works than to keep it as something to use forever.

[prime elk]

Should I pick with at least 2 affixes?

On the same item.

[iron zealot]

This filter is intended to have everything active

[prime elk]

I’m trying Heavy’z one more time before I try that.

[iron zealot]

Ah ok

The general gist of the filters is that you want to ignore things you don't care about and have stuff you want stand out

All the rules you create/use for a filter should roughly be aimed at this goal

[prime elk]

Wait is green set items?

Like in d3

[tender condor]

yes

[prime elk]

Not sure how good pebbles bitemarked is. But I do use golem.

[tender condor]

pebbles set is a good leveling item

as a placeholder

[prime elk]

Wait! Will all items still drop regardless??

[tender condor]

from his take here. yes.

just recolored i think? you can just hide it and put it at the bottom if you dont want it to appear

[iron zealot]

There are different styles of filtering you can take too.

1. Design the filters to color code class and non-class items, then emphasize ones with desired affix combos.

2. Design by affix quality/tier, and color code for certain ranges of affix tiers or total tiers. This is especially good for crafting and decided what to shatter.

3. If you really want to put a lot of work into, make it super specific so that it has a minimum number and type of affixes on items of specific types. For example, you might want Endurance and HP% on a belt with at least t3 of each.

4. Leveling filters are a bit more general, targeting specific affixes and item bases according to your preferred leveling skills/builds before you respec later.

5. Show only uncommon/rare affixes since the common ones drop often enough on their own. This way you have interesting bases to work with or obvious shatter candidates.

This isn't even a complete list. Just some ideas for what makes sense for your desires/goals.

The filter I provided is closer to #2

[prime elk]

Okay I’m gonna feel really dumb if this is true. But I think the loot filters has been working this whole time. Something just clicked when you said they stand out. I have had items drop that was a weird color that was selected in the loot filter. I just assumed whatever you have had to not show they wouldn’t drop at all. Which is true?

[iron zealot]

Most of filtering is recoloring

[tender condor]

some lootfilters hide items

[prime elk]

Does Heavy’z?

[tender condor]

dunno. havent really imported others'

ive always made mine

[tender condor]

but i saw the screenshot you took. it hides whites, as well as there's a hide item that is level-scaled

[prime elk]

But I’ve also seen items with pink text.

[sinful laurel]

Sure looks like loot filter to me 🙂

[prime elk]

I feel dumb. 🤣

[iron zealot]

That's the same as how it feels to learn

[sinful laurel]

I can attest to that personally, currently, right now

[prime elk]

I see now why they are showing. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

Lol I've never seen it 17, maybe he changed it.

[prime elk]

Each category is actually different the more I looked. Like this one is 50. Lol

[sinful laurel]

The base one is likely still 15. But yeah. I did tell you to customize it as you see fit haha

[prime elk]

So I could change it to where only wands and staves show and hide all melee?

[iron zealot]

If you wanted to

[tender condor]

if that's what you want

[sinful laurel]

Just be aware there are some "melee" weapons that can be very good for a minion Necro build

[prime elk]

I mean I don’t see why a necro needs melee weapons. Haha

Hm. I’ll keep it as is for now.

[sinful laurel]

for example, just a base item that is technically "melee" by your definition https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/IIwBhFYwFjEg

[prime elk]

I see what you mean.

[sinful laurel]

just something to think about

[prime elk]

Wait, I can already choose a mastery? I thought it would be awhile. Lol

[iron zealot]

It's pretty early

[sinful laurel]

It's earlier now than it used to be. But yes

[tender condor]

they made it earlier

[sinful laurel]

End of act 2

[iron zealot]

One of the best changes, imo

[sinful laurel]

Agreed

[iron zealot]

It doesn't completely solve the issue of how much it sucks to start characters from lvl 1, but it does help a lot

[prime elk]

Now that I’m here I kinda wanna be lich because of reaper form. 🤣

[sinful laurel]

Lich is fun, mostly a spellcaster

[iron zealot]

If you like pets, Necro. If you like casting, Lich.

[prime elk]

I mean I could always make another acolyte if I don’t like lich.

[sinful laurel]

Same could be said for necro

[prime elk]

I forgot about the sacrificing health. Necro it is.

I’m gonna do fire necro.

[iron zealot]

I love this node
https://i.imgur.com/1CmPLdO.png

It's so one-shotty

[surreal verge]

Lich makes up for it by having generic leech built into their passive nodes, and two broken ass buff skills.

[sinful laurel]

two?

[surreal verge]

What, you can't tell me reaper form isn't good.

[sinful laurel]

oh for sure haha, i guess in my mind i dont consider it a "buff" skill

but really it is

[surreal verge]

Oh yeah fair, it doesn't feel THAT way

But alas.

[sinful laurel]

but in that sense, totally. reaper form plus death seal is...just sexy

[surreal verge]

Ridiculously good.

If as a lich, you're using neither, then you must be cooking something spicy.
Or insane.

[sinful laurel]

haha i have a lich build with neither

am i insane?

[surreal verge]

Yes, or you're cooking some very spicy

Like some insane over the top build.

(If you are pls share)

[sinful laurel]

ive done it, its quite fun. It is nothing crazy and unfortunately i stopped playing it until they can improve marrow shard targeting

its a low life marrow shards, thats all

[surreal verge]

Ohhh

[sinful laurel]

basically plays like a bone spear necro, and does a crap ton of dmg

[surreal verge]

I still haven't gotten to build my triple cast transplant yet

It probably shares some similarities.

[sinful laurel]

marrow shards on cast?

[surreal verge]

Ye

ANd transplant nodes have bone curse and rip blood on cast.

[sinful laurel]

yeah, i always wanted to make something crazy around that and CDR stacking

i do have a rip blood transplant lich

[surreal verge]

Oh I wish I could ever get around to it.
If the fucking Idols would drop

[sinful laurel]

but not the meta one, one that echoes blood splatters as much as possible

[surreal verge]

Oh no, I just want to be able to abuse the fuck out of transplant as much as possible

[sinful laurel]

yeah i always thought that just loading as mcuh shit into transplant as possible and stacking CDR to just transplant everywhere and explode everything would be sweet

maybe not the best bosser

but holy shit a good farmer

[surreal verge]

It would be a funny mono rusher tbh

One button problem solver.

WIth maybe reaper form as defense

And a free slot

[sinful laurel]

you would def run reaper

[surreal verge]

Wait no that's 5.

LOL

I'm fucking stupid I already tried to plan one

[sinful laurel]

reaper, rip blood, transplant, bone curse and whats your fifth

marrow shardss

it should take your skill tree right?

[surreal verge]

Yeah

Since it's written as cast.

[sinful laurel]

right right

that sounds like crazy fun

and honestly even rip blood self cast spam, or marrow shards self cast spam would do just fine for most bosses

at least up to 3-500 corr or so

and transplant onto them on CD

[surreal verge]

Oh my planner was for a crit version

Omegalul

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ZA8kO6yo

[sinful laurel]

yeah it should be a crit version

[surreal verge]

I thought I went dot

But that works as well

[sinful laurel]

i would def do that build as crit

i guess you could go bleed

shards and rip blood have good support for it

[surreal verge]

Idk how much better it is, but if I get the chance I'll probably still go with the crit version.

[sinful laurel]

i think thats better

[surreal verge]

Yeah I think crit's still better overall

[sinful laurel]

i just posted some bonkers build in mage too haha, got curious

[surreal verge]

We cooking today wtf

[sinful laurel]

idk, needed a break from writing

havent cooked in a while

[surreal verge]

[small orchid]

is there any effect on a certain class/unique/idol that converts poison damage to something else? like for example the Jormun's Wrath node on Warcry for primalist, that converts bleed into frostbite

[surreal verge]

You assume there's a lot of skills that start as poison...

(no, not really, there's converts INTO poison tho)

[night dome]

can someone help me kill rahyeh?

[surreal verge]

#👥┃lfg might serve you better

[small orchid]

i see, thanks for answering though :))

[surreal verge]

Also that's a DoT conversion, there's a few here and there that changes bleed to poison, mostly on rogue and acolyte

[tender condor]

Increased/added Damage isnt usually converted unless stated. Stuff usually just converts base damage and/or ailments

[prime elk]

So apparently the build I’m going towards in the end has a loot filter so I decided to use it. I haven’t had a single piece of loot drop in past hour. Should I not be using it? I’m currently level 21.

I got the loot filter in the description of this yt vid.

https://youtu.be/YngSp2WDbpA

[surreal verge]

Looks like it's looking for basically multiple affixes, which is not as common during low levels since you're not getting common yellow drops yet

[prime elk]

I see. At which level will yellow drops be common?

[surreal verge]

30+?

I think?

[prime elk]

Okay thanks.

[tender condor]

Oh. General fire necro

[prime elk]

Why does my necro build require a lich skill and how do I obtain it?

[surreal verge]

Putting points into the lich passive tree.

[prime elk]

I see. I didn’t even know that was a thing. Lol thank you.

[surreal verge]

And today your eyes will open and realize that you can put points into ther subclasses.

Half the tree, but still cool.

Primalist and Sentinel abuse this fact a lot.

[prime elk]

That is cool. How do I reset my passives? I spent passives I didn’t need in the beginning.

[surreal verge]

Go to the brain NPC in towns.

[prime elk]

Ah okay. Thanks!

[cedar locust]

I love that 'Brain NPC' has an actual name/title but we all just use Brain NPC

[prime elk]

Should I leave set gears I don’t need on the ground or sell them?

[cedar locust]

Leave, gear gives next to no gold. Only pick up what has affixes you want to get via Runes of Shattering 🙂

[prime elk]

Okay since I’m level 27 now I went ahead and activated my builds loot filter so it may take a little while for me to see the gear I need but I’ll see all legendaries.

[candid elm]

Just make sure your loot filter isn't blocking items that are usable for you while leveling.

You generally want to use the next higher level weapon that you find while leveling.

[prime elk]

How do I do that?

Should I add a rule? And if I do it won’t mess it up?

[candid elm]

One way to check is to drop an item that you want to use on the ground and see if it's hidden

[prime elk]

Yup.

[candid elm]

Some of those filters are for high level items, like Revenant Mask is a required level 70 item.

As an example, if that's your only helmet filter and you're hiding all other helmets, then you're just not going to see any until those start dropping

[prime elk]

So would it be easier just to make a new filter?

I’m new to this game.