❔┃ask-the-community

[native sail]

They all are

[frosty chasm]

I mean... They all can be equally sucky, or you can play one of the 5 good builds...

[native sail]

Every class has many viable and really good builds. Except Shaman, that's not a real thing, they don't exist, do not address the Shamans.

[zealous orchid]

lol

[frosty chasm]

Sentinel has 3 good builds... in 2 of its masteries.

[native sail]

Incorrect.

[zealous orchid]

is there a build where u take multiple forms depending on the situation? like maybe one for ads and one for bosses/ranged dmg etc

[warm yew]

Druid could pull that off, but they're all pretty universalist

[native sail]

I guess Druid? But I feel that would be a bit clunky to separate them so hard.

[warm yew]

You could do just one transform for all of the time.

[native sail]

My goal is to live as a Spriggan eternally just to make bees.

Will it be good? Not a clue. Will I do it anyway? You bet.

[hasty scaffold]

do yall think there will ever be a weapon swap button like in diablo/poe?

[native sail]

Doubt it.

[warm yew]

Probably not - though Mike is a huge supporter of it, and would love to see it make it

[frosty chasm]

There's a weapon swap button in Diablo?

[hasty scaffold]

well, you can at least do that in the inventory

[frosty chasm]

Not once you're in a GRift...

[zealous orchid]

awww that was one of the cool things about D4 i heard. the fact that a rouge can switch from dual blades to a bow on the fly with different skills seems great to me

[warm yew]

It would be really unbalancing, here - but still wildly cool

[hasty scaffold]

I don't think it would be op because at the end of the day, you only have 5 skills you can specalize in

[zealous orchid]

yeah for D4 the rouge can switch from bow to meele and then the Barbarian has 3 weapons to switch between

[frosty chasm]

That's D4. It's not out yet.

[native sail]

I feel like it would have some abuse cases considering how gear works right now.

[zealous orchid]

yeah i just said that lol

isnt that a thing in POE as well?

[native sail]

Yeah but most people just use it for leveling gems

[zealous orchid]

ah

[native sail]

Then some weirdos use it to get janky mechanical things for damage boosts and such, those people are extreme outliers with stupid high skill levels

[frosty chasm]

I mean, Call to Arms in Diablo 2. Everyone has warcries now!

Lets not forget the JahIth bear.

[zealous orchid]

does LE have items that give u skills? so like a rouge could use the teleport from wizard or something?

ik some arpgs do that while others dont

[native sail]

Sorta? I can only think of one item that uses a skill that is directly from another class, but some items do have triggered skills on them that are specific to that item.

[zealous orchid]

oooo interesting

[frosty chasm]

They're all triggered though... not like... you can assign the button to your bar.

[native sail]

One of the ones with an exclusive thing for example. Rogue only item though (as all bows are).

[zealous orchid]

is this game a 1 button spamfest like POE is or do u have multiple skills u want to use in combat?

[frosty chasm]

It's a 2 button spam fest, with 2 support buttons and 1 movement button.

total 5 buttons.

[native sail]

^ this pretty much.

Some people forsake movement button me, I forsake movement button on some builds

[zealous orchid]

supports are not passive or activate and they stay active?

[native sail]

Most have to be activated.

[frosty chasm]

typically you take a 'clearing' skill for trash mobs and a single target skill for bossing...

[zealous orchid]

awww ok

damn

[native sail]

There is only one skill that is "always active" and it's the Paladin exclusive aura. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[frosty chasm]

paladin's holy aura and spellblade's elemental blade have passive and active components.

[native sail]

Ah. I forgot EB existed.

That's what I get for not committing to trying Surge before 0.9

[frosty chasm]

It can be handy if you take the node that adds cleanse.

[zealous orchid]

can u set up combos? like put a wall down infront of you that when u fire a projectile through it it enhances it?

[cunning spindle]

Does Last Epoch have seasons? Will there be a hard reset on 9.0 launch?

[frosty chasm]

there are a few skills that combo like that

Forgeguard's manifest armor and shield throw.

[native sail]

Cycles are not out yet. They will be 1.0 and later. All your offline stuff stays offline, you will start fresh if you want to play online.

[zealous orchid]

ok thanks for answering my questions

[frosty chasm]

Paladin actually has a lot of 'combo' skills.

err... sentinel.

[zealous orchid]

i might look into this game when the 0.9 releases or might just keep on waiting for D4 idk yet

[cunning spindle]

so everyone will start from scratch again on thursday

[frosty chasm]

if you want to play multiplayer you will start from scratch.

[cunning spindle]

cool, will it have it's own ladder?

[frosty chasm]

if you don't care about multiplayer/server play, go back to your notepad++ offline character.

[native sail]

Some folks are sticking to offline because of bandwidth limitations and such but majority yes.

[zealous orchid]

for multi are there hub areas like in POE?

[native sail]

Not yet. Planned.

[zealous orchid]

oh ok not bad

[cunning spindle]

i mean offline is like standard 💀

[native sail]

Arena ladder won't make it into 0.9, it'll be in directly after at 0.9.1

[native sail]

I mean, there's also going to be a standard online which is where all our 0.9 stuff goes when 1.0 comes out.

[frosty chasm]

There is also no public matchmaking. Everything is invitation only.

[zealous orchid]

i REALLY hope with these optimization features in 0.9 i can play it on steam deck well

[cunning spindle]

yhea, i figgured :D

[zealous orchid]

oooffff

kinda hoping there was for dungeons but it was opt in

[native sail]

They have commented saying public parties are appealing for the future.

[hasty scaffold]

is there any benefit to party playing?

[cunning spindle]

Last question, The trading guild and trading is releaseing 0.9 right? It's not just concept

[native sail]

Item gifting.

[native sail]

They are not out at 0.9

[hasty scaffold]

i was hoping it would make monolith farming more efficient or something

[frosty chasm]

.9 is D3 item gifting.

[native sail]

They are trying to get them before 1.0 but no guarantee.

[cunning spindle]

ohh, that's a bummer

[native sail]

They've purposefully set it up so you can't abuse party play to split farm monos. But obviously it will be much faster clearing and such.

[cunning spindle]

so you won't be able to sell or buy any gear in 0.9 or items dropped before trading guild is released?

[frosty chasm]

correct.

[cunning spindle]

[frosty chasm]

I mean... you could sell your steam account. That would give the buyer your items...

[native sail]

Yeah, for an idea on how new the factions are, the details in the announcement post were still being decided up until midnight the night before it was posted.

[hasty scaffold]

i think limiting items to be tradeable once would fix most of the issues with flippers

[native sail]

That's what they're doing

[cunning spindle]

aight, it's a cool concept!

[native sail]

I'm excited for it and I'm not even focusing trade :P just gotta have patience, it's a big task

[cunning spindle]

i get ya, the endgame system looks so fun, but without trade it ruins the fun for me :p I'm a trade neek in poe so i was going to give this a shot since me and my friends been waiting for the online update

[native sail]

So long as you keep in mind that trading in PoE functions vastly different than here. Primarily due to different standards of currency. Here we have just the one.

[cunning spindle]

i know, but the ability to buy certain pieces for my build is what's fun, and being able to sell good ones/farming for something insane

[frosty chasm]

Yes. The Currency in LE is called Bastion of Honor. LP0 and 1 are worth 1 BoH. LP 2 is worth 5 BoH. LP 3 and 4 are worth... u do the math.

[native sail]

I mean.... you can't trade items for items so that won't work

[cunning spindle]

who trades items xD

you sell multiple mediocre to collect currency to buy a good one

[native sail]

D2 players

[cunning spindle]

ohh, d2/d3 feels to slow for me :(

[frosty chasm]

I don't buy an item unless it has perfect rolls anyway. 'Near perfect' rolls translates to 'unusable vendor trash' in this game.

[native sail]

Spoken like a true PoB Warrior.

[cunning spindle]

isn't it hard to get correct rolls and specific unique's in this game?

[frosty chasm]

Depends on the unique.

[cunning spindle]

any chase item's like HH/MB?

[frosty chasm]

Reign of Winter is a 'common' item, but getting a good one is... rare.

Same with Bastion of Honor.

well... bastion is actually rare

so a good one is even more rare.

[cunning spindle]

can you buy any blessed orbs in this game? :D

[frosty chasm]

There are Runes that you can roll random uniques with. Runes of Ascendance.

So you throw one at a shield and it has a chance to become any unique or set shield in the game.

Except the boss exclusive ones.

[cunning spindle]

i see, but i ment like reroll the suffix/prefixes of uniques

[frosty chasm]

of uniques? no

[cunning spindle]

i seee

[frosty chasm]

uniques have 0 FP (forge potential) so they can't be altered.

[cunning spindle]

maybe i'll give it a try. But getting rich is usually the goal for me in every poe league

[pure umbra]

if anything this is good practice for when trade is actually live later and then you get rich hehe

[frosty chasm]

The treadmill in this game isn't so grueling as in PoE, but there's also not as much 'getting rich.'

[cunning spindle]

what goal do you have when you're starting over this "league"? Just makeing fun builds?

[hasty scaffold]

poe has turned into a chore, it's no longer fun

[frosty chasm]

Pretty much...

Then again, 'fun' is subjective when it comes to builds.

[pure umbra]

havent played much of LE but its another sandbox, if goal in poe was to kill ubers, in LE it can be push 1000 corruption or whatever it is thats the hardest

[hasty scaffold]

they fucked it up bad by skewing drop rates and rng to streamer no-lifers

[cunning spindle]

on the ladder is 1k/2k "cheaters"?

wave on arena i mean

[frosty chasm]

There's a ladder?

For a single player game where you can edit the .json files in notepad???

[native sail]

Mostly, yeah. Though Perry is pretty high up and a legit player.

[cunning spindle]

What wave would a typical endgame build get since it's "online" now you think?

[native sail]

Honestly, no idea.

[cunning spindle]

Will you still be able to .json in 0.9?

[native sail]

No

Not for online characters anyway

[cunning spindle]

aight, might give it a try then. Real question now though, avg time to complete story first time?

[native sail]

Full clear? Maybe 8 hours. Just to get to a level where you'll be fine in monos? 4

[hasty scaffold]

goddamn i must be slow af, takes me about 20 hours average

[native sail]

You are in fact slow af

[hasty scaffold]

even in poe, it would take me 30 hours to get to maps

[hot carbon]

Takes me maybe eight hours and I'm a casual player

[native sail]

Oh yeah. You're reeeeeal slow.

[hasty scaffold]

and i see people doing it in 3 hours

[cunning spindle]

so like POE then, any benefits of completing the entire story or can you just jump into monos asap?

[native sail]

You get +1 to all attributes if you kill the current final boss, but it is not necessary at all

[cunning spindle]

aight, cool! Thanks

Does it release on the time showing in the #news channel or just the patch then +4 hours?

[hasty scaffold]

am i the only one who stares at the skill tree and contemplate where to put my points every time i level up?

[native sail]

The time there is in your local time

[hasty scaffold]

am i the only one who spends 20 min optimizing my build every 5 levels?

[native sail]

I optimize before I even start playing

[hasty scaffold]

like bruh, how you do that? there isn't even a pob.

[hot carbon]

i optimize when deias tells me to optimize

[native sail]

lastepochtools.com

Literally has a build planner

[cunning spindle]

yes, but they mentioned the patch will take like 4 hours? Maybe i'm wrong :D

[hasty scaffold]

that's primitive and doesn't tell me the dps of skills

[native sail]

Neither does the game

[hasty scaffold]

anyway i'm stuck at warpath: increase flat dmg or increase attack speed?

[native sail]

What kind?

[hasty scaffold]

if only there was a DPS meter to tell me

[native sail]

They don't want one in game like that

[hasty scaffold]

understandable

also, i've been playing on and off for a year, but i don't even know the story. do yall pay attention to the story at all?

[native sail]

I did once.

I'll do a full read through again at 1.0

[hot carbon]

this

[hasty scaffold]

i tried but maan, i get impatient and just say 'fuck it'

[hot carbon]

i'm always playing with deias, so we're usually going pretty fast

we'll probably do a full read-through together at 1.0

[hasty scaffold]

even if you do, you'd probably beat me to endgame lol

[hot carbon]

they'll be playing jank so who knows

[native sail]

I'm gonna live as a Spriggan

[hot carbon]

i'ma be reapir

[native sail]

That's not how you spell that

[hot carbon]

what do you min

[sour scaffold]

Youtube dudes are saying 'rush to empowered monos' but if those are level 100 areas and there's a penalty to XP if you are 10 levels under, isn't it severely problematic to rush to empowered monos before you have the levels? My experience with the game is limited but it seems that I can run to lvl 90 monos before I'm even 75.

[twin oak]

It's not for levels, it's for gear and blessings

[sour scaffold]

Sure but that's still a crazy amount of farming to be doing with no XP gain, no?

Do you then go back to nonempowereds to level up?

[minor vigil]

it's not no exp gain, it's exp gain as if the zone were 10 levels higher (as of this patch iirc) instead of 25

[twin oak]

Nah, it's easy

Base corruption is not that different from unempowered

[sinful laurel]

Honestly if it's your first char and you are playing ssf you will likely have to do at least some farming in reg monos depending on what class/build you start with. If you just play the game normally you will be fine. maybe try to not blindly follow YouTubers

[minor vigil]

personally i see very little reason to not start empowereds asap

theyre not much harder and way more rewarding

but if you cant handle it then you cant handle it

[sinful laurel]

I have a feeling you are quite a bit more comfortable with LE than hollow is

[minor vigil]

im pretty bad but i mostly play sentinel and druid who are strong

[sinful laurel]

Or arpgs in general

[sour scaffold]

I don't get it but okay the consensus is clear, I'll try to do the thing.

Yeah I think this isn't a comfort thing this is a meta or offmeta thing, I imagine, not sure.

[sinful laurel]

Dude. Just play the game and have fun

[minor vigil]

basically the penalty is if you're level 70, you gain EXP as if the zone were level 80 instead of 100

so in essence it's not something to worry about ever

[sinful laurel]

You don't have to do empowered monos to have fun

[sour scaffold]

I burn out super fast on games if my build is too good. I burned out on LE because I self-made the OP flame reave build with dual sunwreaths.

[minor vigil]

as for what content you choose to do then that's up to you

[sour scaffold]

Anyway I think I got what I wanted out of the conversation, thanks lads.

[native sail]

Instead of 5. It was 5 before.

[hot carbon]

you are all wrong

[sinful laurel]

You're wrong!

[minor vigil]

i meant as an example if yuo were level 75

phrased poorly

[native sail]

That... doesn't make any sense in the context of what you said

[minor vigil]

it was in response to what hollow said

[buoyant roost]

Hey all, just a question about some Druid skills. I believe I've already asked this, but I want to double check. The three Druid forms all contain nodes which allow you to transfer to a different form by replacing the 'Human Form' skill. What are the cooldowns for these skills? Are they 6 seconds like any of the transform skills, or do they not have a cooldown? Furthermore, if they have a cooldown, do they share it between forms (for example, does the transform from Spriggan -> Wearbear share a cooldown with the Wearbear -> Spriggan skill)

Just want to have those details in mind before I build something around it 🙂

[faint cape]

They definitely do have a cooldown, and they start on cooldown when you switch into the form. This essentially means you must be in the form for the full cooldown duration between swaps. I don't remember what the cooldown is off the top of my head, though, probably same as the transforms themselves.

[buoyant roost]

Got it, thanks 🙂

[blissful moat]

Hey all, been out of the scene for a few months. Was thinking of hopping back in but wondering if I should just wait for 0.9 on Thursday. Are the changes significant enough that I should wait and start a fresh toon? Or can I keep levelling what I have until then

[minor vigil]

do you want to play multiplayer ever?

and/or trade

0.9 lets you make online characters while your previous chars are offline only

[blissful moat]

Gotcha okay. I'll definitely hold off

[high ether]

also a bit of class/skill and itemization changes based on their patch notes

[grand river]

If it's been a while since you have been through the campaign and want to start a practice run with a character it's a neat way to pass the time for x hours

That's what I did during the two multiplayer tests and anxiously awaiting the .9 launch for that delicious clean slate

[grizzled aspen]

Anyone have an idea about a discount coming? I really enjoyed playing with my friend, but I can't justify $35 for the game at this point.

[hasty scaffold]

yea if you wait until 1.0, it should be free

[cinder fossil]

game will not be free

nor will they have any sales until 1.0

[hasty scaffold]

oh ok i couldve sworn i heard someone say they were f2p with only cosmetic item sales

[dry narwhal]

nope

[abstract aspen]

anybody have a timer until patch 0.9? 😄

[pearl canopy]

Do you have a source for that? SteamDB says they have 20% off sales about once every 6 months.

[thorn ermine]

I'm at 109 corruption for a 2her warpath build and I don't kill necessarily that fast and the shade boss gives me trouble a bit. Is this build just weak? Because I hear other builds/classes can clear super high corruption easily.

[cinder fossil]

https://youtu.be/a3oRejXlIks?t=5605

1:33:25 in the video

[pearl canopy]

Ty for the thorough response! No regrets about buying last weekend then 🙂

[grand river]

Apathy's Maw 2H unique axe helps quite a bit. Early on scaling Abyssal Echo damage is more effective than an extra increased void damage stat. Warpath is easy to access but hard to master because of how important itemization is for the build. Blender experts can advise you further if you link your build by uploading your save to the planner on lastepochtools.com. For what it's worth I found my VK Warpath weaker than other builds in the 100-150 corruption range without investment.

[wide sentinel]

ye why would u go 2h on warpath instead of dw

you are losing tons of dmg

[thorn ermine]

thanks for detailed explanation. Yeah, it seems you might need really tweaked gear to get the same results that a typical VK bomber can do.

I was DWing, but found a sick 2Her, so i switched.

and DW also is getting buffed, DR going to 9%, so I was a bit squish.

[wide sentinel]

void cleaver+katana is the way to go on dw, just those bases give insanse dmg

[hasty scaffold]

not to mention the recall skill got nerfed so mp will be harder to come by

[thorn ermine]

chengsta from D3!? lol

[hasty scaffold]

nope, never played d3

[thorn ermine]

ah k

[grand river]

Thanks for chiming in @wide sentinel it's probably the same mistake I did but to be fair I was in my first 150 hours of the game

[wide sentinel]

ye idk, void cleaver is just too busted and katana gives 60% crit multi and u get 10% base crit from wp tree+huge leech, way easier to build 100% crit and big numbers

[thorn ermine]

i'm in the same boat. I was DWing though, it's just that this 2her was too good. lemme screenie.

so i just gamble void cleavers and katanas then?

haven't found good ones.

[wide sentinel]

i mean this one should be enough for 100-150 corruption

[thorn ermine]

these were my Dual wielders, my 2her beat it though.

[wide sentinel]

so just farm more

[grand river]

@wide sentinel I don't even know how badly this is built but there are good bones, at least for an offline character https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/rBrXR4yA

[thorn ermine]

yeah, i just need crit avoidance which I just found on a ring.

[waxen hull]

Sorry if im blind and if the question was already asked 100 times, but do we have an exact time for Thursday?

[raw fern]

The time in this post is in your timezone: #news message

[waxen hull]

Lol ty! Im blind..

[sage mantle]

Any info where the multiplayer severs will be located in EU?

[silver yarrow]

I'm new to the game. How does patching work in LE? Does the game go down before the patch launch or does the patch go available for download right at the launch time?

[buoyant sinew]

the patch is available at launch time

there will be four hours of downtime before the patch

[silver yarrow]

Thank you!

[random crescent]

is patch 0.9 multiplayer gonna be in the same client or we need to re download it when the patch came out?

[raw fern]

The patch will be published for the main game client. Just check if you are not on the [internaltest] branch.:

This is how it should be

[cunning spade]

Feel dumb but figured i'd ask. If I already own the game, am I automatically in the mp beta? I don't see anything on the store page to enroll

[random crescent]

so it will be automatically updated on steam?

[raw fern]

Yes

[raw fern]

Yes. MP patch drops tommorow

[cunning spade]

Thanks! @raw fern

[jovial notch]

will my stash tab go away when 0.9 go live ?

[last thistle]

yes

[outer mango]

if ur gonna play online multiplayer you start fresh

[raw fern]

Characters and stashes created before 0.9 will be only availble for offline play

[clear scroll]

Any good reshade/visual tweaks i should use to make the game look the best?

[desert quest]

Not an answer to your question but in 0.9, anything that is altering client behaviour in any way is strictly forbidden.

[clear scroll]

I get you, will just tweak via Nvidia control panel to sharpen img etc

[jolly karma]

Howdy bois, what's a fun build where you don't have to aim much? I usually play pets/totems, but wouldn't mind trying something else

[dry narwhal]

Warpath, most hammer throw builds, javelin holy trail is very aim lenient

[compact fractal]

are hardcore players gonna be able to party up with softcore players in MP anyone know?

[dry narwhal]

Should be a no unless the hc player is a ghost (died in hc)

[zealous orchid]

is there a way to increase the level of a item? like if i get a amazing item at level 30 can i increase that items level as i increase in levels so it still remains relevant?

[carmine coyote]

Upgrading the affixes will increase its level requirement

[zealous orchid]

o

[carmine coyote]

But thats not really needed to make it relevant, you could be running a lvl70 character with a lvl50 weapon thats much better than a lvl70 weapon

[zealous orchid]

oh reall

thats nice

[native sail]

Yeah, items don't have "levels" in this game.

[zealous orchid]

but wouldnt u want to upgrade that level 50 weapon to level 65 or something cuz it will get more powerful?

oh

so just raritys

[native sail]

They have level requirements to equip them and that's based on the tiers of affixes on it and the base type of the item.

[carmine coyote]

The level doesn't really matter

You look at the base and what it does for you, then the affixes if they are any good

[native sail]

And higher base type is not automatically better. It depends on what you're doing because they all have different implicit stats.

[last thistle]

lvl doesnt matter, some base types are lower level but is better for ur build

[carmine coyote]

If it checks, just use it

[native sail]

[zealous orchid]

is there a chance that the item will get destroyed the higher u try and upgrade it?

[last thistle]

no

[zealous orchid]

oh good

[carmine coyote]

That was a thing 2 years ago

[zealous orchid]

oh god

[carmine coyote]

Upgrading at certain point had a chance to destroy the item

[dry narwhal]

I dont miss fracturing

[native sail]

No, they have a system called "forging potential", which it consumes as you craft on it. Not really a problem because all items have the same "cap" of T5 crafted affixes, T6 and T7 are drop only.

[carmine coyote]

It made crafting fractured crown easier

[dry narwhal]

Never did it then either

Lol

[native sail]

I still don't have it because I can't find a single exalted item of that base

[carmine coyote]

Also gambler was a thing

[dry narwhal]

Someday

[carmine coyote]

It could spawn all rarities

Just do temporal sanctum with a mage on helm day

It should yield ~30 helms per run, no way you don't get atleast one with the mod

[native sail]

I don't have a mage that can handle Sanctum, they're purely for speeding monos

[carmine coyote]

Should be fine, T4 floor 1/2 is like 100-200 corruption equivalent

[native sail]

The issue is I just get one tapped by Julra and I don't feel like running the dungeon if I'm not going for a completion

[umbral lintel]

do timelines/monoliths go on forever?

like echos will constantly generate?

[native sail]

The webs do have an end, a branch always ends in an Orobyss node, so eventually you will have to reset it, but it will probably take you a pretty large chunk of time

[umbral lintel]

ooo ok , so they do technically go on forever

[dense remnant]

No?

The webs are limited by distance, once you reach the highest number of corruption gained from an orobyss, unless you're aiming for stability and not corruption, or setting up rewards, then you only don't want to increase when you aren't gonna be able to get an increase in farming from more corruption

Otherwise that web is now done, and you do the shade of orobyss

It's also not like, ridiculous to reveal an entire web

Have to take into account echos being done speedy, will be done in 2~ mins tops

[carmine coyote]

Iirc vessels also count as an end to a branch

Not just orobyss

[jade vector]

do applying damned on hit works with spells guy? thanks for an answer in advance

[native sail]

Anything that is not a DoT is a hit

[jade vector]

and what if a percentage more than 100?% does it apply twise?

[native sail]

Correct. If you have say 120% you have a guaranteed stack and a 20% chance for a second stack per hit.

[jade vector]

awesome, thanks for clarifying!

[native sail]

No problem.

[split wren]

is void knight auto bomber still going to work in 0.9?

[native sail]

Yes but it will be somewhat weaker.

[split wren]

are there any other good options for " league starting" with no gear?

[native sail]

Plenty. That's what a starter is.

Pop on over to Dr3adful's channel, I know he's been working on some stuff the past few days.

[split wren]

on yt?

[native sail]

Yup

[split wren]

thanks ill give him a look

[grave willow]

Is there a group finder in multiplayer, or can you only play with people you are friends with?

[native sail]

You can invite anyone to play by username or just clicking them in chat. But there is not a group finder, yet. Possible future addition.
There's also #👥┃lfg which will probably be used again tomorrow.

[grave willow]

Ok, thanks. I'm friendless.

[dense remnant]

Lots, but if you want really really strong, then look for a guide on bone golem. It's probably going to be the strongest starter for all content, and requires no gear

[delicate jay]

can you still use warpath with a wand on

[copper fable]

yes

your hits will just do very little damage because no weapon damage hehe.

[sleek lily]

Hey, I'd love some help. I'm still nooby at LE crafting and not sure how it works. So, a good item = an item with high base stats + much forging potential, because there is a cap to the tiers right? Not sure what I should be looking for.

[native sail]

A good start is an item with 1-2 affixes you want already on it and high enough FP to reasonably craft the rest to fit. A great start is the same but on a base you're looking for. A fantastic start is 2-3 affixes you want on a base you want.

[sleek lily]

Awesome, thanks. Also I've gotten a lot of level 5 uniques, should I care about req levels on items at all when picking which ones to upgrade?

(I know u cant upgrade uniques but yellow items etc)

Not sure if it's worth wasting shards early on

[native sail]

Required level is kinda meaningless. It's based on base type + the tiers of the current affixes. I don't know the exact formula.

[sleek lily]

Sweet, thanks. Makes sense, so higher level = less upgrading needed

[thorn ermine]

do gambling chances change based on level of dungeon boss/key?

[split wren]

Cool I'll look into it thanks

[storm wave]

i keep seeing that hand of judgement was nerfed and i cant for the life of me find what it was nerfed to, does anyone know?

[knotty tinsel]

Volatile Reversal for the purpose of keeping uptime on consecrated ground/aura was nerfed. The go-to was "have a big mana pool, take the node that turns mana into damage, then rotate VR and judgment giving you a full mana pool basically each cast"

now the cooldown is too long for that

it just requires some retooling, time will tell how severe it's nerfed

(though if when the patch goes live the gloves are also tuned down then it's rough)

[storm wave]

so the gloves are unchanged? cool thanks

[knotty tinsel]

I cannot answer that, since they're new and that wouldn't be recorded in the patch notes.

just saying that if the gloves are also nerfed it's a bit of a bummer

[tepid dawn]

Anyone know where the meteor would land on this proc? Cursor location?

[copper fable]

lands on what you hit im pretty sure when I played with it

[urban horizon]

Triggers under the monster that caused the proc to happen

[faint isle]

Hi guys. Does duel wield considered as 2 different hits? Will it proc a "per hit passive" twice?

[desert quest]

Nope, game still functions same way but you get the average speed of weapons and combination of stats

[topaz river]

i wanted to test some ideas offline but i cannot enter offline game ?
how do i fix this

[rough tide]

Hello guys, i'm struggling finding the source of that info "Xp level is capped at a gap of +/- 5 level"
Meaning, if you're under or above more than 5 level, monster level will be capped at this threshold (especially asking for early monolith farming)

I know some EHG stuff said that, but can't find the source
Anyone could link it to me pretty please ? 🙂

[raw fern]

Are you on steam? Do you have some branch name [internaltest] near the game name ?

[topaz river]

yeah i have internal test there i reinsatalled but nothing changed

[faint isle]

thx

[raw fern]

Go to properties and set Beta -> None

[topaz river]

ah thanks , i am an i... now you say it i remember

[desert quest]

Was part of patch notes, changed to be 10 I think

[rough tide]

Which version of patchnotes if I may ask please ?
Tried to dig some info through forums search, and over discord, but can't get my hands on it 😄

[lunar holly]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-convergence-update-beta-0-9-patch-notes/51975/3#xp-gain-and-zone-level-scaling-8

[rough tide]

Thanks a lot, didn't know they changed it on 0.9 😊

[desert quest]

Oh Iceberg got you

[carmine coyote]

@lunar holly but, do you like, melt?

[lunar holly]

Thank you for your inquiry. Your question has been answered here: <#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message>

[slender temple]

Yo guys, anyone still have problems linking LE with Steam ? when u purchased the beta pack some years ago ?

[carmine coyote]

You actually made the effort to search it 🫶🏻

[thorn ermine]

is damage reflected any good? feels like the worst affix

[raw fern]

No 🙂 What's the problem ?

[slender temple]

i get this error

[raw fern]

But you've played the game on standalone ?

[slender temple]

yep like 1-2 k hours 😄

[raw fern]

Strange,i 've never seen this error

[slender temple]

yeah its a new one for me

[raw fern]

Also "The steam account already has progress on the following title"

[slender temple]

yeah , thats a lie 😄

i only have this steam account, and its just not in there so idk 😄

not a big deal , just thought it would be easier for upcoming mp

[raw fern]

You need steam to play 0.9. It uses login with steam feature

[slender temple]

ah ok - nice then ITS a big deal

[hasty scaffold]

what do yall think of fire crit warpath with reens ire sword?

[raw fern]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/migration-to-steam/52234

maybe this wil help

Check the "Getting Set up"

Create support ticket if nothing will work

[slender temple]

did some days ago, no answer, but i guess they have other work atm, so its ok , maybe they will get to me in time

[warm yew]

They will - Support is insanely busy at the moment.

[slender temple]

i Found the Problem, but its such a specific one....

[raw fern]

Could you provide solution? Maybe we will albe to help others tommorow if they will have the same issue

[cold swift]

does Holy Aura affect other players' pets? Like, do they count as allies? I assume yes but asking for safety xd

[slender temple]

Well 😄 i bought the game in late 2019 on the LE Site - Then i played it 1-2 hours and " forgot " about it. Late 2021 some Friends started playing again. So i wondered where my " copy " is. I did not found my Account Details, and bought the Game with Steam.
1 Week Later i found my old Login Data, and refunded the Steam Version of the game. So now Last Epoch Site thinks i have 2 Copys of the game, thats why the Transfer is not working

I know I know ... 😄

[tired furnace]

Has anyone figured out a bulletproof mechanic for covering the mana cost of a 100% crit use of the meteor belt?

[native sail]

Mana Strike.

There's weird shenanigans with werebear and rage

[jolly karma]

Anyone else experiencing a lot of lag with ALL settings on LOW? (I have a RTX 2070S)

[tired furnace]

have you seen any kind of build planner? Sorc or spellblade? Do they also spec meteor, to get the most bang from the proc?

[native sail]

I have not and can't really direct to anything. I just got home from dental surgery. I'm not all here right now.

[jolly karma]

People with experience, which build is more fun, hammers or warpath with forge weapons?

[native sail]

I like hammers.

[strange folio]

When multiplayer launches, will we have to make new characters? or will i be able to use any of my older characters

[sinful laurel]

Older characters offline, if you want to play mp fresh char needed

[north shell]

should primalist serpent strike go beastmaster or druid?

oh...can you even serpent strike as a werebear?

[carmine glade]

I am torn here, I think I'm envisioning the game the wrong way

[supple geode]

Hey guys, newbie here! So after i bought LE from steam it still wants me to create an account which is impossible to do from the client "LE-26 failed to update account". Any suggestions?

[carmine glade]

I mean, I think I'm playing this game the wrong way, like pretending this is a different game

[native sail]

Uh... Support maybe? I have no idea how to fix account issues.

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[plucky ridge]

i also had a problem with that and i tried a couple of times and it worked

then i had a problem where it freezes when i launch it from steam, it worked fine launching from .exe file

[acoustic thicket]

Hey all!

I have mostly played FPS/survival/mmorpg games but want to dive into arpgs.

Would Last Epoch be good to start with? How is it for beginners?

Or should I look something else to beginning with?

[brave ibex]

LE is a good starting place, it's not very punishing and there is a really great in-game guide that can help with a lot of the basics

[buoyant veldt]

Is synchronized strike bugged? i have the node that culls anything under 15% but it wont cull any mobs

[peak wind]

hello everyone, is anyone having the same bug ? the screen is showing right after i created a new character
it just won't work -_- (i tried reinstalling, verifying files integrity, flushing dns)

[thorn ermine]

Is VK echo base damage 100% of your damage including the multipliers like melee damage, increased void, etc? Or is it just 100% of melee weapon X increased echo damage?

[desert quest]

It does include all the modifiers to the damage but also increased echo damage

if you don't have any echo damage, same with your own damage

[tired solstice]

hallo ! may i ask somethig?

[desert quest]

Fire away

[safe vessel]

i have a general question about scaling tags: so if a tag says "physical, strength, melee" for example does that mean that each tag scales equally? meaning +5% physical damage will give the same added amount of damage as +5% melee damage?

[tired solstice]

i connected my acount to steam and lost everything of my progress

[thorn ermine]

that's insane, thanks. So that means that echos do more damage than our actual warpath!? wthell..

[tired solstice]

is it normal?

[thorn ermine]

No I don't think so. Physical and Melee are separate multipliers. They are added together after the calculation. Look at character sheet to see your "increased melee damage" and "increased phys damage."

[desert quest]

Short answer, no. Long answer, depends on the tag and base damage. In your example, if all your damage is physical then physical and melee should give same damage (for melee hits). But if you have lets say some lightning damage added through some item or passive tree, physical won't affect it while melee will. Strength is an attribute so it affects the whole skill but in its own way. If you hold ALT while hovering the skill, it should show how much increased damage you are getting from Strength.

So it is better to look at it case by case and each tag individually. Hard to give you a short rule that encapsulates every case.

[thorn ermine]

@desert quest echo warpath does more damage than regular warpath? assuming +echo damage? lol

[desert quest]

It should yeah. I played warpath myself and it was doing more damage

[tired solstice]

@desert quest connected my acount to steam and lost everything of my progress is it normal?

[thorn ermine]

that's crazy. Counterintuitive that echos are doing more damage, but I guess we go with that.

[desert quest]

I never seen it sorry. Can't help you there. Maybe check forums?

[thorn ermine]

every game's shadow/echo/image mechanic always does less damage

[outer mango]

!support

[ripe brook]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[tired solstice]

ok thnks

[steel merlin]

is this for just the cast of the curse or for the procs?

[safe vessel]

awesome, thank you both

[dawn trail]

Hey anyone whos tested 0.9 is the controller support better? I.E. other then the combat it being a virtual mouse.

Not criticizing just curious.

[desert quest]

I don't know. I expected it to do same damage when I read it first time. It says your skill is repeated. To me it is more intuitive this way.

[rustic sentinel]

Multiplayer is tomorrow playable so i can start with a friend ?

[minor vigil]

Yes

[rustic sentinel]

Cause on the website called Multiplayer beta at end of this month

[minor vigil]

That was an open test at the end of last month.

[rustic sentinel]

ahhhh yeah okay Feb. not March

kk thank you

[minor vigil]

I think it was 0.8.5 where they added better menu navigation on controller

Iirc there's a drop-down menu and you can select items more easily

I haven't played in a year though

This patch they didn't say much was changing with controller

[topaz river]

i play in borderless windowed mode but my cursor cannot move to the other monitors , how do i fix it

[thorn ermine]

rotting hoard: Gaze of Orobyss necro dragon keeps getting pushed by my skills. That seems like a bug. Died to it multiple times now lol.

[native sail]

It is a bug.

It's called Emperor of Corpses btw

Rotting Hoard is the quest name. Gaze of Orobyss is a mechanic.

[minor vigil]

I thought that was a feature lol

It's so annoying

[thorn ermine]

ah ok

thanks lol. Yeah it's weird. I think you have to hit from the side to not move, but unsure.

[devout junco]

Any HC trade enjoyers?

[outer mango]

No, there is no trade on 0.9

[devout junco]

lol my bad! HC not-solo enjoyers?

[shut mural]

Can multiple stacks/extra swords of Multistrike all strike the same target ? (or is it maximum initial hit + one sword on single target? or not even and only initial hit on main target ? )

[brittle atlas]

they cannot hit the same target

[shut mural]

so only initial hit on main target? damn ^^'

[brittle atlas]

if there's a single enemy you can either hit it with the melee hit or swing out of range and hit it with one of the additional strikes

[shut mural]

thanks @brittle atlas

[vast fjord]

if you havent played before around how long do you think it takes to reach end game

like after campaign

[native sail]

I mean, if you full clear campaign you're ready for the monoliths already. Getting to empowered will take you a few hours after that probably. You don't need to full clear campaign to start monoliths though.

[vast fjord]

oh i see thought you had to do full campaign didn't realize it was unlocked earlier thanks

[native sail]

You can start monos as soon as you reach the End of Time if you wish. I don't recommend it. But you can.

I do them as soon as I have all my passive and idol rewards.

[trim saffron]

Hi all what is the character level when exalted items starting to drop ?

[brittle atlas]

zone level 50+ if I remember right

or maybe 40? somewhere in there

they can drop at the end of the campaign

and in all monolith zones

[trim saffron]

Ok thanks

[lunar holly]

90+ for T7's

[tribal mango]

is there anything we need to do to pre-download/be ready for tomorrow?

[native sail]

Nop

[mild patrol]

is there a place on this discord to ask about performance on the game, having a lot of issues

[native sail]

0.8.5 has huge performance problems. The update tomorrow will help a LOT.

[mild patrol]

ok, it is just about unplayable at the moment, not sure if my resolution matters or anything, done driver updates as well

[cedar locust]

If no-one answered you yet - There should be an option in the settings to lock the cursor to the monitor, is this checked?

[dry karma]

guys, i just did my first echo, im only lvl 44 but i wanted to see what it was and it says its lvl 58 but i still crushed it and took no damage. is lvl scaling just not that bad in this game? i was expecting to be one shot and be unable to kill anything

[brave ibex]

Yup, pretty normal to be 10-20 levels under area level

[dry karma]

oh really? interesting. so when people get to the echoes or mono or whatever it is, in the end place, do ppl just start doing echo's instead of continuing the campaign? im trying to figure out the best way to lvl/get better gear

[hidden peak]

Campaign has passive points, idols, and an all attributes reward

[brave ibex]

It's quite common to drop out of campaign once you have all passives/idols and then just run monoliths

Or drop campaign even earlier and then go back for idols/passives later

[dry karma]

ok, so i get useful stuff from the campaign, but some ppl might stop and do some echoes and go back for the campaign stuff later. do i have to finish the whole thing to get all the rewards?

the campaign that is

[hidden peak]

The last quest is the all attributes reward atm

iirc

[brave ibex]

You can get all passives and idol slots before you fight Lagon. As Ekuland says there is an additional bonus for the current last boss which is +1 all attributes but it's not very significant

[dry karma]

ok, how many chapters are there? or, at approx what lvl is the campaign done? im trying to gauge how long it is

[hidden peak]

Campaign finishes somewhere around 70?

[brave ibex]

Nah it's way earlier than that

[hidden peak]

Is it?

[brave ibex]

55ish

[dry karma]

oh wow ok. so ive got a long ways to go when im lvl 44 then

[hidden peak]

Oh shit, you're right. I know what I mixed up

[brave ibex]

It's 9 chapters, if you press Esc ingame you can see where you're at

[dry karma]

55 then? ok thats not as bad

im at 7

[hidden peak]

So like another third of the story to go

Current story*

[dry karma]

i might just finish the whole thing before doing anything else tomorrow then. unless the last part is very hard or something, ill be playing hc. havent died yet at least so there's sometihng

[brave ibex]

Chapter 9 is pretty notorious for being a difficulty spike 😄

[dry karma]

alright, noted 🙂 maybe ill stop there then and do some mono's first

do all side quests give something btw? nvm, i looked ingame and some dont

[desert quest]

something? yes

[hidden peak]

Everything rewards something

At least exp/gold

[native sail]

Majority. There's a few that give just gold/exp

[dry karma]

yeah i noticed

i ment actual stuff like idol slots and passives, but yeah i see some only give gold and xp

[raw fern]

Here's the checklist for passives/idolslots/uniques in quests: https://www.lastepochtools.com/checklist/quests/passives

[dry karma]

ty, that will be useful tomorrow for sure

[native sail]

Oh god. I have to reset my unique checklist.

[dry narwhal]

Oh naur me too

[dry karma]

do ppl craft while doing the campaign btw? i didnt craft anything yet

[native sail]

I do

[outer mango]

sure, it helps

[dry karma]

like, add resists and stuff?

[dry narwhal]

Sometimes

[desert quest]

for sure

[hidden peak]

I'll tier up mods that apply, but not anything overkill until late

[dry karma]

i looked at every item with damage over time modifiers on them but couldnt upgrade any of them

unless im just stupid 😛

[hidden peak]

Did you have dot shards?

From shattering items with dot or finding them randomly?

[dry karma]

oh, how do i shatter items lol

[native sail]

Smack an item in the forge and hit it with a shattering rune

[hidden peak]

Runes of shattering, the hexagon shape in the bottom right(?) of the item you put in

Blows up the item, randomly gives you some shards based on the tiers of the mods on it

[dry karma]

right, i see.. so i should shatter items with modifiers that are useful to me so i can craft or upgrade those mods on better items

[hidden peak]

^

[dry karma]

only have 9 of those runes too, so i cant shatter too much

[hidden peak]

Buy them from vendors when you see one

They're 2k gold each

[native sail]

They become plentiful later. I hover around a few hundred in endgame constantly.

[dry karma]

that's a nice tip ekuland, i never really looked at what vendors had

[hidden peak]

Did... they fix the vendor not resetting?

[dry karma]

do vendors reset when i lvl up or?

[hidden peak]

They reset each time you meet em

But the one in the monolith was bugged at least during the beta test

[dry karma]

oh, is it the same vendor? so every time i meet the vendor he has new stuff?

[hidden peak]

The armor icon in towns

Is the vendor

[dry karma]

yeah ive seen him

[hidden peak]

If you recreate the zone, he's refreshed

[dry karma]

i thought there were multiple

oh ok

d2 style

[native sail]

I think the mono one is on a timer, Eku?

[hidden peak]

I never saw it reset in a single session during the beta

It would reset if I left the game

[native sail]

I did but inconsistently

[hidden peak]

hmm

I thought it was supposed to reset between each mono

[dry karma]

is it possible to highlight all items with damage over time with the filter?

[hidden peak]

But I could ve remembering wrong, it's been a long while

Sure. Just add a rule to emphasize that affix

[native sail]

Easily

[dry narwhal]

very easily

[dry karma]

i assume theres no point showing white items with the mod hmm

[hidden peak]

Some people do black magic with the filter, but its also very easy to figure out how to add something simple for a rule or 2

[brave ibex]

White item = no affixes

[dry karma]

oh.. duh

ok, so no point even adding rarity to the rule at all then

seems to work, sweet 🙂

i love how easy it is to edit your own filter

[thorn ermine]

do we lose crafting materials if we die in HC?

[native sail]

A lot of people put a rule to hide all normal/magic/rare items at the bottom to hide stuff they won't use.

[acoustic thicket]

Is there possible way to reset gameplay settings to default? A file or so?

[dry karma]

AppData\LocalLow\Eleventh Hour Games\Last Epoch possibly by deleting some files from here?

[urban dome]

So can someone tell me if there is going to be a wipe with the new update ??

[dry karma]

kind of. no chars will be deleted, but they will all be offline chars. to play online char you have to make new chars

[urban dome]

Thank you. I'll be waiting

[dry narwhal]

it's just tomorrow anyways

[urban dome]

I'm excited. All the new stuff looks really good

[safe vessel]

are full HC playthroughs viable in last epoch?

[native sail]

Yup

[indigo plinth]

Hey i would like to try a build before tomorrow
It is possible to find some char already lvl up ?
Or change my own file ?

[dry karma]

i havent tried that myself, but i did a google search right now and it was very easy to find. i dont know if that is against some rule or something though, i assume not since its offline

[native sail]

It technically is

[dry karma]

ok, last question before bed time. what are legendaries? can unique items drop as legendaries? are they the same just higher stats?

[native sail]

Legendaries are made by combining unique items with legendary potential and exalted items at the end of the Temporal Sanctum dungeon.

[desert quest]

Unique items can drop with Legendary Potential. Which is a way to add rare item affixes to uniques

Which makes them legendaries

[dry karma]

oh, neat

[brave ibex]

In case you're unaware, there's an in-game guide that explains this (and a lot of other stuff)

[thorn ermine]

guys, do I keep crafting mats if I die in HC?

[brave ibex]

Ones that you've stored, yeah

[dry karma]

no, i wasnt actually. ill take a look at that tomorrow then cheers

[dry karma]

if you have "solo" challenge mode selected, i think you do, otherwise no

[thorn ermine]

ah nice thx

do higher corruption timelines have fewer rare echos and more exalted ones?

until they are all exalted

[native sail]

No.

But you will have higher odds of rarer nodes.

[pallid cobalt]

heya,

quick question

do you think there will be a sale soon?

cause of the update ?

[native sail]

No

[desert quest]

No sales expected until release IIRC

[dry karma]

the previous sale was back in 2020, so probably not

[native sail]

There will not be any sales until full release

[pallid cobalt]

ohh kk

thanks!

[timid hatch]

around what level should you be when you unlock empowered monos?

[cold plaza]

I tend to be 73, these days. I'm a try hard tho

[dry narwhal]

high 70's low 80's is not out of the ordinary

[dense remnant]

xp changes in 0.9 means it's probably gonna be around 75 minimum now

so for a non speedy approach, low 80's will be perfectly fine

[vernal burrow]

never did a lot of endless arena but is it good for leveling

?

[native sail]

No. It is for ego.

[vernal burrow]

AH

[copper fable]

Yeah its this games ladder. I think I read they might wanna do an exp ladder at some point, but I think for now the main ladder is planned to be arena.

[hollow socket]

Do minions "die" when sucked into an abomination?

[dense remnant]

yes

thats how the respawn loop works

[copper fable]

yes they proc "on death" effects which I think is what your asking. and as such anything that triggers off that. making zombies, respawning skeletons, granting mana/ward etc.

[faint cape]

Lands on a random enemy around you, unless targeting has changed. Definitely not always on a target you hit; I had this launching meteors behind me during the test.

[faint cape]

No. You can as swarmblade, though.

[wheat vault]

Im not super familiar with DoT builds, would more multipliers in a skills tree (or the 63% less damage with hungering souls from Curse of Perseverance) be inherited by the ailments it inflicts?

[native sail]

Yes.

Anything that doesn't specify on hit will be inherited by ailments it inflicts.

[faint cape]

Yeah, as long as the multiplier applies. For example, ailments are not hit, spell, or melee damage.

[slim ravine]

Is farming up mobs and then killing them all at once the meta?

[faint cape]

If that's the best way for your specific build to clear, yeah. Otherwise no

Locust swarm just runs through the map to kill most stuff, for example

[slim ravine]

I watched some speedrun vids and almost all of them did that from the start

[hollow socket]

This is more of a thing with builds that use cooldown/high cost abilities. Otherwise it's safer to kill enemies as soon as you can and NOT group them up so you take more damage over a shorter timespan.

[fleet flicker]

Hi guys, this is how I'll be showing items from level 1 to 100 basically. Is this FAR too strict? I assume it'll be fine in the late game, I'm worried about this in the early game. How might you change it?

[split wren]

how much damage to skills get from stats that scale them? for example how much damage would forge strike get per point from strength or attunement

[subtle kindle]

I wouldn't hide unique or exalted items until you have a big bank of decent ones, never know when you want to reroll

[subtle kindle]

The skill tells you how much when you press alt over it in your skill bar

Usually 4%

[split wren]

ok thanks

[hasty scaffold]

is it viable to do a 1-shot judgement skill? i've been playing with the judgement gloves in the build planner and i just noticed there's a node that gives you 2% more damage per 1 mana consumed. so if you get 700 mana, it's lights out, right?

[dry narwhal]

you're gonna needa mana generator with that kind of setup

[hasty scaffold]

yea, even with 500% mana regen, it's just 30 mana/sec regen 😦

i need to hit 100 mana/sec but that just seems impossible

oh well, guess that build will be in the gutter for now

actually it's doing 2k dot dps with no gear lol

[fleet flicker]

Sorry - that wasnt all my filter. I meant for non-unique/set/idol/exalted items, that's what would show. I think that might be too strict, so I added another section at the bottom (recolor with >=2 tiers of 2 of 29 affixes. That STILL might be too strict for levels 1-20, idk

What would you do? I have a turbo specific filter, and the whole point is I want to only show items that are worth looking at or fracturing, I guess

[subtle kindle]

I think it'll be fine, I always run with a super loose filter anyway so you don't want to ask me

[split wren]

what's the best way for getting decent loot filters for levelling these days?

[magic narwhal]

whats the most visually noisy build I could make as a new player?

[devout junco]

Tons of stuff changing for 0.9 so any loot filters are going to need to be remade. Most players make their own filters. It's made super simple to update in LE. Ctrl+F is your friend early and often in the leveling process.

[split wren]

i love that le has the filter maker in game unlike poes need for sooooo many external tools, but it looks so damn complex that im a little worried ill hide something i dont wanna hide ya know

[bitter badge]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-9-ready-for-mp-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2-8/25176 I know theres these, even if you dont want to use them as a base, might help make sense of what options do what for you

[devout junco]

always start simple and build up. it might take you a bit longer to level but if you're diligent and updating it as your build progresses through the campaign, you'll have a really good idea about what you want your filter to do for you by the end of it.

oh nice Heavy updated them for 0.9 what a beast

[sterile widget]

I've been playing an increased cast speed smite. With area increases, it can get a bit wild.

There's some totem builds that really fill the screen too

[bitter badge]

I installed them today and had a look around, helped me understand how the loot filter works, so will likely use Heavy's as a base for my own 😄

[echo skiff]

Hello, I'm interested in getting into the game and close in buying it. But my concern is the multiplayer aspect of it, is there a SEA server? I don't wanna experience another bad ping aprg gameplay. Thank you. Also is there a way for us to ping it to know my latency?

[sterile widget]

I think Perry included a totem pop in his "starters you don't need" vid

[subtle kindle]

Singapore exists, not sure about other SEA servers

[split wren]

theres an au server not sure about sea tho

[subtle kindle]

Judd posted a location list yesterday

[split wren]

i was surprised at how good my ping was lol

[echo skiff]

AU/SG servers are fine for me, I will have at least decent ping on both. Thank you guys @subtle kindle @split wren

[split wren]

where is that?

[echo skiff]

Yeah, where is it?

[subtle kindle]

In general somewhere

I don't have a message link, just search his account

[bitter badge]

#💬┃general message

[split wren]

that sounds like a thing to get pined

[bitter badge]

server list link

[sterile widget]

@echo skiff There is a "ping" UI element in the game attached on the right of the skill hotbar.

3 vertical bars, which go red orange or green based on your latency

[split wren]

thats a pretty solid list

[subtle kindle]

A numerical value helps a lot though

[split wren]

im pretty sure it has a ping on mouse over

[subtle kindle]

I don't care too much about ping thankfully, I can live with 80 ms

[echo skiff]

Thank you guys.

[sterile widget]

Yes it does 🙂

[edgy mural]

So if I have this node that converts effects related to Bleed and ignite to instead effect time rot, "increased bleed duration" would become "increased time rot duration"?

[hybrid fractal]

If anyone has had and resolved the issue of being unable to redeem the game on Steam please DM me if you found a way to fix it yourself or by EHG support. Thanks.

[spare tartan]

Ahhh shoot guys, Im so pumped for tomorrow! I haven't played in over a year. What's a fun poison based build I can start with? Looking for something that plays like Blade Vortex in POE. (Me likey DoT Auras)

[vernal burrow]

is it possible to spec judgment with hand of judgment to cost zero mana

if you have a god roll

if not really close

im going to try and do a harbinger of starts judgement support build probs. that can also vibe with solo dps if needed

[echo skiff]

Is there a big difference if I wanna start playing now than tomorrow's 0.9 patch? Is my character gonna be obsolete or something?

[subtle kindle]

Cold dot Bear or Aura of Decay for your aura dot build tbh

[vernal burrow]

your current chars will be offline chars i think but still be playable

if you want to play with a friend then wait

[subtle kindle]

You will not be able to play off-line characters online

[vernal burrow]

ye

[echo skiff]

Ohhh I see, I get it. But that character will still have access with the new updates and features?

[vernal burrow]

pretty sure yeah

[subtle kindle]

Yeah just not multiplayer

[echo skiff]

Great, thanks guys!

[vernal burrow]

anyway does anyone know if the mana efficiency on judgement is enough to make it cost zero with a good hand of judgement

its called swift verdict

the node

[subtle kindle]

No clue

Probably low enough to sustain with all the attunement you're stacking

[vernal burrow]

yeah

[vernal burrow]

i wonder if i do this build ill even be able to sustain it

sounds fun to try out anyway

[copper fable]

I dont know if flat mana reduction comes before or after mana efficiency, always forget.

but its 15 baseline cost, assume an average roll of -10, assuming it comes first, that leaves 5 mana cost, which becomes 3.5 mana~ a use. I think the game does actually consider decimals in both regen and cost, they are just hidden from players.

if it comes after, its 0.3 mana cost. if you have -12 it would be free if it comes after mana efficiency.

but im pretty sure mana efficiency happens after.

But the flat reduction is enough to spam it off cooldown aslong as you dont go pious.

[worn bluff]

how hardcore friendly is this game? To put my personal scale to it comparing to other arpgs I've played:
PoE - 3/10
Grim Dawn - 10/10

thinking about weird performance spikes, one shot mechanics and random shotgunning amongst other things

[copper fable]

id put it closer to the top. the scariest part is honestly being unprepared for stuff. if you are educated you basically cant die unless you make poor choices in mod selection

id give it like an 8/10

[dry narwhal]

you won't get oneshot in this game if you have decent defenses

[copper fable]

lets just say you know how poe has slams? this game has them too. but its quite a bit easier to tank them in this game

you can still die if you dont read though. if you take really bad mods shit will blow you up

[subtle kindle]

LE tells you where the slams are gonna land in advance though

[worn bluff]

poe has a lot of things but I'd say a slam is by far one of the least scary things about it
but I get what you mean and thanks for the input. I'll probably start HC and see how far I can get

[subtle kindle]

If you build defense and play well you won't die

[jovial leaf]

@wide oriole understand now?

[north shell]

Come on and slam and welcome to the jam

[wide oriole]

Yes i believe so

[jovial leaf]

Don't know, you know or not, damage multiplier in skill also works on the dots you apply through him.

Unless in description node have only more melee or throwing damage.

[random badger]

What % of resistance do you want for endgame empowered Monoliths? Is it 75% or 150%?

[neat dragon]

exact time of update?

[copper fable]

75 is capped, overcapping does nothing for the most part unless you are afraid of shred

at which point you should use a cleanse method

[neat dragon]

overcapping fine cuz monsters rr tho?

[copper fable]

cleanse will remove all forms of shred be it shock, death mark, poison shred stacks etc.

[random badger]

Alright, wasn't sure if the innate penetration needed to be mitigated further or not, cheers

[copper fable]

nope overcapping does not protect against pen, so having over 75 is literally useless

[neat dragon]

oh so if i have 100% overcapp lets say, and boss uses rr -10% ill just go down to 65 instead of 90?

[copper fable]

so all mobs penentrate 1% per area level, at area level 75+ they basically set you to 0.

like say you have 75 res, and get hit by "mark for death" which is -25% all res, you would essentially have negative 25% res.

if you had 150% res, then you would be taken to 125% thanks to mark of death, then to 0 because of the pen.

However all forms of reduce res debuffs can be cleansed

[neat dragon]

ah so it works like that

very weird

[copper fable]

So you ideally just cleanse any bad ailments. and because of how resistances work in this game, even being undercap is not a death sentence. so its a viable strat to not have capped res as well.

[neat dragon]

why would pen work with resists doesnt it render entire resist bar useless then

[copper fable]

obviously res is still good and a core defense. but if you dont have capped res, you wont be instantly falling over like in say PoE

No it just lowers the gap between no, and maxed res because monsters pen you pen can go negative so lets say you had 0 res

you would take 1.75x damage

[neat dragon]

ah yeah i suppose it makes sense

[copper fable]

but if you capped res, you would take 1.0x damage, or baseline

which is a really strong damage reduction, its just not PoE world where each point of res is more powerful then the last and if you are missing 5 res you take 20% more damage.

[neat dragon]

i mean i dont like poe but i came from grim dawn

[copper fable]

And overcapped has value if you are worried about res reduction debuffs, but most people just cleanse it.

oh isnt grim dawns similar

where its a % reduction

[neat dragon]

yeah except penetration doesnt have anything to do with resists

i dont even recall if there is penetration per se, there is armor absorption mechanic and pierce is just a damage and res "element" of its own

[copper fable]

yeah not to familar with GD myself, only played a single character in that game.

@hasty scaffold Yes. DoTs can leech.

[neat dragon]

but coming from grim dawn i was sold by resistances although there are much less

[hasty scaffold]

wow thanks

[true surge]

is the website or account creation down for anyone else?

[neat dragon]

website yes

cant login in the game either

[true surge]

what a terrible time to buy the game

[neat dragon]

im restarting steam to see if they uploaded the update or perhaps they are uploading it now

im more than halfway thru march 9th

so maybe

[copper fable]

Yeah probably updating the auth servers in prep for game going live in 12 hours

[neat dragon]

bruh 12 hrs

5 am no sleep less go

[random badger]

Only time I've seen thrown around is 6pm/18 CET for the patch

[torpid hemlock]

Is there a resources website for this game, that has recommended loot filters and maybe character builds?

[hollow quail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ unless i'm misunderstanding the question

you can look up builds people have made, and grab sort of general loot filters for them

[sharp vessel]

Does the Energy Wave ability from Rive's Indomitable node shotgun?

[short leaf]

alright Big question... lich or necromancer for tomorrow? 😮

[dull niche]

not sure if this is the right place to ask. i just bought the game on steam and created an account ingame. i noticed that it seems possible to create multiple accounts once you've owned the game. how will this affect things like the supporter pack items?

[queen gulch]

Come German language in game?

[torpid hemlock]

i noticed Maxroll has a Last Epoch section, are they offering decent builds there?

from past experience they offer pretty good D2 and D3 builds, but not so great PoE builds. so im not sure where LE sits there

[quiet sorrel]

They aren't too bad. Lizard, McFluffin etc are good value.

I know Lizard has been adding loot filters to them as well.

[wicked vault]

Hello, can someone tell me what mail and password i have to put to enter the game when i launch with steam, before it was automatic, now it ask me 😒

[dry narwhal]

login servers are down

and the website

thats why

[frigid meadow]

Yeah saw website is majorly screwed now.

[dry narwhal]

check #news

[cyan dune]

Does the new update brings offline log in? Or am i still have to deal with that DRM thingy

[shut mural]

what do you mean by shotgun? does it hit the target from which you got the proc? Yes it does, but its not a melee hit. Its a Physical Spell, so it doesnt scale the same as Rive, and doesnt use the melee dmg from your 2handed weapon for instance

[marsh radish]

Guys I don't understand, is this a nerf or a buff or its same?

“Increased Effect” stats for damaging ailments have been swapped for “Penetration with” stats. For example, 8% increased Ignite Effect is now +8% Fire Penetration with Ignite.

[tired shard]

sounds like it's just more clear about what it's doing

[marsh radish]

so it should be the same just new name?

[tired shard]

I'm new to the game, but that's how I interpret that.

[marsh radish]

I am asking because Increase Effect and Penetration are different from each other

Increase effect was multiplicative and penetration depends on monster element type resists

[jovial leaf]

It's nerf in most cases.

[supple notch]

Are the servers down or something? i just bought the game, can't log in, can't create account, website leads to some cyberpanel.

[tired shard]

#news message

[jovial leaf]

Effect does another separate multiplicative.

[tired shard]

@supple notch were you able to successfully link your Steam account, or did you buy on Steam?

[outer mango]

servers are down

[dry narwhal]

servers down

check #news

[supple notch]

I've bought it on steam, but yeah the migration or something is going on so i'll have to wait

[outer mango]

always check #news first

[tired shard]

I regret buying it on the site, lol. Should have just bought on steam to guarantee I can play at launch.

[supple notch]

Just so i know, will i have to make an account once the things are back up or?

[outer mango]

its online game so yes

[supple notch]

Well duh, all my games on steam are online, neither require separate account, that's why i'm asking

[outer mango]

Actually https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/migration-to-steam/52234

[supple notch]

Alrighty, thank you @outer mango

[rotund crane]

I just hope the optimisation in 0.9 makes a dent. Running hammerdin with smite drops my fps so much 😂 can't imagine multiplayer

[dry narwhal]

i run on low to medium on live and was on very high in the tests

easily.

[rotund crane]

Sounds promising

[cyan dune]

Anyone?

[outer mango]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/migration-to-steam/52234

[cyan dune]

Thanks for the reply but it does not explain the problem im currently having, although i understand the game will able to launch via steam alone does that mean i can play the gane with steam offline mode or do i need an internet connection during the startup of the game?

[outer mango]

i dont know about that sorry

maybe ask in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[cyan dune]

I did but no answer

[timber fulcrum]

if i remember corectly in older version you just need internet to login, after that you can pull out internet cable and continue playing, but maybe they changed something

[cyan dune]

That is the problem im working on an off shore oil rig and internet connection is something i rarely have access to

Even if i do theyre only for emails or messaging

[timber fulcrum]

yeah i get you, that really sucks

[cyan dune]

It does, the only arpg i can play now is grim dawn but i really like LE

[hearty horizon]

Hey Quick qeustion just to get this game bith more understanding. I see many guides using like lvl 30/40 items even do max lvl is 100. Is it so that those items are dropped based on your char level or just the item level? I assume when you are level 100 you wont be wearing lvl 20/30 gear. Maybe someone has a video that explains this i could not find it 🙂 or just answer my qeustion haha

[raw fern]

Just to confirm. From patch notes: "Offline mode in 0.9 still involves logging in, and has chat and friends services like it did in 0.8.5. We still plan to make Offline mode fully offline in the future."

[timber fulcrum]

yeah, thats what i thought

[dry narwhal]

bases always stay the same level

so if a good base is level 40 then you use that

levels of bases don't affect the affixes on them

[mint verge]

hello im new here i get the message authentication error i played yesterday and now suddenly i cant log in is this only for me?

[timber fulcrum]

servers are down preping for patch

[mint verge]

ok thank you

[timber fulcrum]

np

[outer mango]

#news

[mint verge]

and some times the doesnt want to boot up

i dont really understand why

even when i go in steam verify files

after 10 times it does but its strange

[timber fulcrum]

wait till the patch drops and see how it works after update

[mint verge]

when is the update finished if i may ask

[timber fulcrum]

6pm cet

[mint verge]

ok thank you

[rugged veldt]

The patch will go live at 11 am CT, there is a local countdown at the top of the Patch Notes: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-convergence-update-beta-0-9-patch-notes/51975

[lethal canyon]

Are burning daggers effected by cimder strike tree?

[velvet ferry]

When we making the filter which rule should we put on top of the other : the "Show" or the "Recolor".
I know this may sound stupid, but I wanna make sure I make it right because for now using recolor only blackens the item (despite settings being red)

[brave ibex]

They should be yeah

[lethal canyon]

mmkay

@brave ibex thanks for answer

[blazing kindle]

So anything above takes priority, so it depends. If you have something recovering the item to black above the recover to red it will overwrite

Recoloring*

[velvet ferry]

I had no other recolor rules. I just had a Recolor and a Show rule with Emphasize

[blazing kindle]

Okay might have something to do with emphasis

Try turning that off and see if it works

[velvet ferry]

I'll check this tonight then. Thank you.

[blazing kindle]

Yeah of course, have had some issues with emphasis causing some of the longer item names to come off the nameplate, making it show up as a black box

[viral kraken]

hi guys, I just started playing. Have maybe like 4 hours play time. super fun so far! I'm running with a sorcerer. I'm wondering, is it possible to have a build for a sorcerer that uses fire and lightning? Or lightning and ice? In my mind having a sorcerer that does 2 elements like that would be sick

[brave ibex]

Yeah you can, there is a unique designed around builds like that

[lethal canyon]

@viral kraken there are also cooldown skills like magama orb, statix, and volcanic orb.

[stable relic]

morning guys. are any of you having trouble getting into the game?

[brave ibex]

Check news, login servers are down

[stable relic]

@brave ibex ah, thank you. My bad

[deep walrus]

Hey guys, quick question, are the changes regarding the loot (with the ssf bonus to drop loot) coming also with 0.9 or at a later date?

[timber fulcrum]

nope thats coming later

in 0.9 only trading with friends like in diablo 3

[deep walrus]

ah ok, i understand

[deep walrus]

tyvm

[viral kraken]

@lethal canyon Very nice. Thanks! I’ll look into those. Of course the first day I get the game the servers go down for the update tomorrow 😂 all I want to do is play

[brave ibex]

Your timing is good, the new patch has a lot of good stuff 😄

[lethal canyon]

especially for that build

[jovial leaf]

If i have this node on tree manifest armor and get boots with 200% increased minion hp, how many increased minion health mainfested armor have?

[lethal canyon]

originally sorcerer struggled because of a linear passive tree

200%

[desert quest]

Still 200%

[lethal canyon]

those boots are very good though.

[cloud lichen]

is there a tool for editing/creating lootfilters out of the game?

[final moon]

hey guys when will be the new patch ready in eu time^^?

[cloud lichen]

https://www.watchisup.fr/compte-a-rebours/jeuxvideo/last-epoch-0-9-launch-2023-03-09-18-00

[final moon]

ty

[dry narwhal]

#news message

i just use that link

[jaunty atlas]

Cannot login to the game at the moment. Anyone else having issues?

[dry narwhal]

check #news

[jaunty atlas]

thx

[deep walrus]

Could anyone point me towards some builds that would be able to get me to late game (in order to be able to farm for other builds)? I'm a pretty new player, played this game like 1 year ago, and wanting to give it another go in 0.9

[brave ibex]

Here's a good vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezFg-2vkVvA

[zealous orchid]

is there a website that will help me optimize my gear?

since i assume there is prob tens/hundreads of thousands of gear combinations

[copper fable]

there is a planner website. it does not do damage calcs tho really. So maybe not what you want/need. its a learning curve. once you understand the games formulas/mechanics you will naturally know what gear you need/want.

[zealous orchid]

does this game want u to get resistances up to a certain % by X level like POE does when ur going through campaign?

[copper fable]

Resistances are good, but are not make or break, try and get physical res early

[dry narwhal]

it helps

^

[copper fable]

if you dont have enough res dont panic, At the most you will take like 50% more damage during the campaign if you ignored resistances entirely.

its not like PoE, Resistances scaling linearly.

[zealous orchid]

oh good

[rugged veldt]

just went live today: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/

[zealous orchid]

does the game have a good compare window or maybe a website where i can compare equipment?

[rugged veldt]

And of course https://www.lastepochtools.com/

[zealous orchid]

is it bad that i think maxroll is a lot more well designed then the other site

i might be super bias tho cuz i used max roll for lost ark to

[desert quest]

Maxroll has a paid team behind while LE Tools is managed by one person for free

[zealous orchid]

ooooo

i had no clue they were paid

LE tools is only one person

wow

[brave ibex]

Dammit

[outer mango]

LE tools maker is same person who made grimtools for grim dawn

[zealous orchid]

oh nice

so i assume i should wait a couple days for builds to be updated before playing 0,9?

[outer mango]

there is guides for 0.9 already

[zealous orchid]

oh damn

oh PLEASE tell me there is one single currency in this game like gold? or less then 5 atleast

HATED POE for having sooo many

[outer mango]

gold will be main and only currency when trade goes live in future

[zealous orchid]

thank god

[outer mango]

https://bit.ly/MGandCoF

gold

[zealous orchid]

ah good

uhhh

where do i go to see if the update is live on Discord?

[subtle kindle]

there will probably be item for item trades indirectly tho those come with a higher favor cost and a scam risk

[outer mango]

#news

[zealous orchid]

o

thought they will have a #announcements

oh they do

[subtle kindle]

#news message

[covert crystal]

imagine not being useless as me and actually reading, eh?

:3

[zealous orchid]

oh nice they auto convert to local timezone

[outer mango]

yup

[dense smelt]

will I get a backpack if I play through Steam Family Share?

[subtle kindle]

You need to have bought the game.

[dense smelt]

Can I do the purchase now or is it too late?

[outer mango]

before 0.9

[dry narwhal]

you have 6 hours

[subtle kindle]

Anytime before the patch goes live I would assume

So you can buy now and still get it

[knotty tinsel]

is the description for this forge strike node dated? the related fire burst ability only deals fire damage

[charred haven]

Hey, i read somwhere that you can targetfarm uniques in this game. Is there a list of items and drop locations anywhere ?

[outer mango]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/

[charred haven]

thanks 😄

[outer mango]

its not updated to 0.9 yet i think

[charred haven]

oh that dosnt matter, i guess it will be at some point 😄

[sour scaffold]

I vaguely remember something that probably came to me in a dream, is it true that adding flat damage adds the scaling tag also in this game? So like that Rive node that grants +1 void damage is just there to add a void tag? I don't think this is correct but somehow I'm pondering it.

[knotty tinsel]

it's updated but the patchnotes may have made further changes that weren't seen in the 0.9 weekend events.

[sour scaffold]

Definitely lots of further changes and things missing, I think letools got its info from datamining.

[outer mango]

it doesnt show 0.9 uniques what i looked

but they said it can be updated after patch is live

[knotty tinsel]

iirc two out of 18(?) are missing currently. I'd give it 24 hours ish, the creator has said here it might take a bit.

[outer mango]

right

[charred haven]

is there also a place where you can make your lootfilter offline so you can import it when the game is up again ?

[dry narwhal]

Dammit has to download the game same as we do

[brave ibex]

Added damage doesn't add a tag

[sour scaffold]

From gear and passives probably not, but from skill tree?

[outer mango]

not atm but they are thinking make it so

[brave ibex]

Doesn't matter where it's from, added damage is not base damage. Tags generally come from base damage

[sour scaffold]

Cool thanks

[lethal canyon]

Just making sure. If you add daggers to cinder strike. It's still a 0 mana skill right?

[brave ibex]

Yeah Cinder itself still costs 0

[charred thicket]

hey, when i use gambler's fallacy and stack a lot of crit to reach ~200%. Does the 50% less crit chance reduce my crit chance to 100% or 50%?

[latent herald]

new player here, can someone recommend a good early game AOE build? im thinking (mid)ranged aoe or chains all around without exposing myself?

[sour scaffold]

^Got a class preference?

[latent herald]

mage, aco, rogue

[latent herald]

rogue > mage > aco ( but if like roguie cant aoe while safe its cool, we do mage)

[knotty tinsel]

does warpath's reduced ailment chance also include stuff that (has a chance to) happen >on crit<?

[tribal mango]

elemental nova with the ashen crown is quite nice

[sour scaffold]

Detonating Arrow is pretty popular AOE, for Mage you can turn Ice Barrage into an insane clearskill, otherwise Elemental Nova maybe. I'm not an acolyte player so not sure.

[old marten]

How do i know if a triggered skill is affected by the tree? is it affected unless otherwise specifies or the other way around?

in this particular case im wondering about Grand Sacrifice from the Volatile Zombie tree

[shadow glade]

just curious

if i play co op with friend through story, do i have the same progress with him?

[woven oxide]

Do we know if there will be more wipes moving forward after todays multiplayer launch? Or can I go full investment on online characters now 😄