🐺┃primalist

[near leaf]

Yes

[high stratus]

very nice, if I'd known I'd have rolled that

instead of getting trolled by destruction engine still being broken

[near leaf]

What's that?

Acolyte stuff

?

[patent dock]

I wouldn't bother, personally, since like you noticed they are not spellcasters and would lend better toward a phys build which isn't as well rounded imo. (Not to mention, bees are very weak baseline)
Apogee is so nice on vines builds because vines are one of the only minions that generate frozen vengeance stacks when summoning over their cap, so maul always procs the area freeze and damage buffs

[shut laurel]

nope don't need it but it's an option if you wanna scale with lightning damage/penetration I just didn't build around it

[crude cosmos]

Awesome thanks! I guess there is no way to trigger apogee in spriggan form right?

[near leaf]

Yup

Need a Melee Attack

I guess you could go lightning in a bottle + Evade

[high stratus]

it's abom deleting itself when it's not meant to

[patent dock]

You can proc a melee attack to trigger it, the only options I can think of for that are lightning in a bottle or shaman avalanche procs (upheaval or EQ)

[crude cosmos]

Ok thanks guys

[mellow kestrel]

Dang machine spriggan looks so fun

[mellow kestrel]

Ok thx

[high stratus]

without leaving the form the options seem to be storm in a bottle, bhuldar's wrath, idols or set which trigger avalanche which can in turn trigger EQ (shaman only for boulders)

I wish you could put basic attack on the bar

[winged swallow]

I am currently doing a "aftershocks make boulders and the boulders trigger EQ's" on my Physical gathering storm character. And surprisingly with only the 10 mana per hit from GS i'm actually staying max mana

even tho a endless mountain of procs are happening

[modern sage]

Hello all o/

My Mana guide sorc got nuked when they bugfixed Arcane Ascenance. And am too disheartend to salvage it.

So I'm looking towards a Primalist build.

I'm wondering towards a Beemancer or maybe a Wolf pack beastmaster build.

Any advices or references?

[winged swallow]

Squirrels are always good. And the new bee set is also good. If you plan to play summoner. Bear beastmaster is also a option

[winter ivy]

Is the bee set actually good? I don't think I've seen anyone stick with it.

[modern sage]

Squirrles are cute!

But have a soft spot for a pack of wolfs scheading everything in sight

[patent dock]

We can't do bhuldar's with apogee also equipped, and side note, avalanche can proc upheaval easier than it does EQ

[patent dock]

These are fun, I ran it as a werebear once. No EQ procs that way, but you can really max out the boulders with rage on hit/crit lol

[winged swallow]

I'm eventually gonna swap over to "Harmony of the first one" with Physical GS being my primary focus. Gotta get a 2LP Harmony with a good corruption first tho

Physical GS's new visual instantly made me what to make a build

[patent dock]

Harmony is one of those weird items, could be fun

[mellow kestrel]

What’s it look like? Anyone have screen shot. Keep hearing it looks cool

I’m at work 🙁

[sly bobcat]

from what i can tell the queen bee itself is mostly just fluff. you basically just want to make a bee build and go from there

[winged swallow]

when hovering over a item in your build on LEtools. How do you scroll the text down?

[patent dock]

Hold Z and mouse over the tooltip, then you can scroll it

[winged swallow]

Ah ha. There we go. thanks

[mossy coral]

@near leaf !!!

Can be used everytime you warcry

[high stratus]

good point about upheaval

[mossy coral]

Every primalist set I make is sets, it's too good

[winged swallow]

Wish "Tempest Weapon" wasn't only maces and axes...

Harmony of the first one would be so dang cracked for it

[high stratus]

wouldn't work anyway

the extra stats are just applied as a generic buff to your character sheet

IIRC

[winged swallow]

well yeah harmony is a spear

[high stratus]

yeah but if tempest weapons allowed spears or harmony of the first were an axe it still wouldn't work how you want it to

all the multiplied stats are applied as a generic global buff to your character, they're not "on" or "from" the spear per se

it would be like getting lightning melee damage from your passive tree or something

[winged swallow]

oh that's odd it specifically states "Stats on this item" not "stats from this item"

[high stratus]

I agree that it's the natural interpretation of the wording on the item but it's not the way it's implement in the game

[winged swallow]

meaning it should boost the stats on the item not from it

[high stratus]

#suggestions #feedback

[limber bramble]

hi

[winged swallow]

And if it boosted the stats on the item. you wouldn't haven't to do stat page gymnastics when estimating your harmonies stats. You would just hover the item and see what it's giving

[high stratus]

if you skills used only by minions the tooltip calculates the damage using player stats.
most tooltips for player scaled skills are wrong too.

I get where you're coming from but you're playing last epoch and you have to be realistic about these things

[shadow cosmos]

and that’s not a harmony specific thing even, reliquary nest, wings of discord, idol altars all send the bonus stats to the character sheet instead of showing them on the item

[winged swallow]

I know. But just how it's presented currently makes "harmony of the first ones" look like a extremely weak weapon. But if you could actually see it's stats increase in real time. That would be a cool and unique gimmick for a cool and unique item

[shadow cosmos]

it got giganerfed due to community backlash

[winged swallow]

?? harmony looks exactly the same to me

[sly bobcat]

it got nerfed before itw as even released

it's the same as it has always been

[winged swallow]

oh

[sly bobcat]

it's still a good weapon it just requires a ton of build-around

if you need a ton of stat density for just a couple of melee stats it's very likely the best option every time. the problem is how much of an opportunity cost it comes with

you lose access to legendaries in every slot

[high stratus]

very stupid reaction tbh

[sly bobcat]

it's also a 2H so non-FG loses a shield, everyone loses a catalyst if you wanted it

nah it was definitely not fit to launch with the original numbers. it would have been the best weapon in the game bar none

[winter ivy]

I dont think the community reacted poorly to the weapon, everyone just did the math and realized how good it was going to be

[shadow cosmos]

maybe it would’ve been too strong but the reaction to it was hyperbolic for sure

[tranquil lintel]

assuming you can use corruptions with harmony now too

[winter ivy]

Bit of a shame it got nerfed and we still got Thicket tho

[limber bramble]

yo guys should i go on beastmaster or shaman or druid?

[shadow cosmos]

everyone’s math was based on getting a full gear set of items that were going to make you hate yourself to farm

[winter ivy]

Corruptions are sealed affixes, so they shouldnt work

[winged swallow]

Corruptions being a thing buffed harmony by a GIANT amount

[winged swallow]

It works. already tested it

[near path]

does aspect of the crow (+3 lightning dmg) in storm crow reduce the amount of APS of crows since its casting the buf?

[sly bobcat]

do you know what kind of build you want or are you just asking for what people like?

[high stratus]

everyone underestimates how hard it is to get the two T7 affixes you want with everything else removed, let alone useful sealed affixes and stuff

[tranquil lintel]

yeah you can have a double exalt with a t8 and a corruption right in magical fairy land where you could actually get those items

[winged swallow]

harmony is a primordial. so no t8's

[winter ivy]

oh, wild. I had interpreted the text as the item being non-magical when its got a sealed affix. Pretty cool that it works with corrupted tho

[tranquil lintel]

oh yeah obviously lol

[shadow cosmos]

people massively understated how annoying even 1t7 with removals would suck and make gear farming extremely unfun

[winter ivy]

oh definitely. Everyone does napkin math, nobody actually thinks about playing the build.

[sly bobcat]

I've built around harmony in the past. T7+T5 really isn't that bad

[high stratus]

aspect of the crow just triggers on their attacks, so no, but wisdom of the storm does somewhat reduce their APS. If you remove the cooldown for totems then I think maybe they barely attack at all? I've never tested it tbh

[sly bobcat]

it's definitely annoying though

[tranquil lintel]

in my legacy stash i have a tab of double exlats that dropped with only two affixes

[winter ivy]

maybe I shoulda kept those 1 affix T7 items that Id found... coulda been useful

[shadow cosmos]

i mean like, cool? are any of them with both affixes actually being good? also like, it’s legacy.

[winged swallow]

Yup. Sealed and Corrupted don't count towards the item not counting towards Harmony. As the only "Check" harmony does is if your primary affix and suffix stats are 2 or less stats. If you cheated in a item with 2 T7 suffix, a t7 sealed, and t7 corrupted. It would still count towards Harmony because the primary stat slots is at 2 or less

[shadow cosmos]

because if it’s got only one (or no) good affix then you’re either hoping for redemption omega prayge or adding two affixes, havocing and then removing without running out of fp or not removing your t7s

[near path]

oh ok, thanks

[high stratus]

I wonder, lightning upheaval totem with a pack of storm crows casting wisdom of the storm on it and scaling shatter on thorn totems

how many crows can you even get if you're not a beastmaster

[shadow cosmos]

5?

nah 4

[winged swallow]

Corruption buffed harmony like CRAZY. But the other side of that coin is it made harmony WAY more annoying to gear for

[shadow cosmos]

two base, two from primordial river champion (lol)

[high stratus]

or anurok helm

[shadow cosmos]

ye

[high stratus]

doesn't sound good really

crows don't get much cast speed

[shadow cosmos]

well they get some more from ravens rise buff now at least

which really does nothing for the most common way to play crows but it might be ok for that

[high stratus]

I think your totem would only get like 11 stacks per crow after ramping

which is only 130 ish flat

so yeah sounds not worth it at all

[near leaf]

OK.... So? 😅

I don't see it

[winged swallow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEmbW6m

[unkempt thistle]

Shaman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (24) / Shaman (64)

General:

▸ Health: 5,157, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 272.51, Regen: 19.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 107 Str / 10 Dex / 10 Int / 65 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 131% / 130% / 78% / 90% / 124% / 102%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 1,496
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (54)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,349)

Used skills:

Gathering Storm / Maelstrom / Earthquake / Warcry / Fury Leap

[winged swallow]

A "dream world" harmony build. But one I will be making with the best of my abilities

After i'm done with this whetstone gavel primalist that can farm gear for this harmony build

[near leaf]

@shut laurel https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/mugan/character/REFLECTPOWER

He is still cooking

[sly bobcat]

attack speed on the gloves seems redundant. I'd rather have like armor shred or something

or even just strength

[winged swallow]

yeah kinda just throwing it together. But aspect of shark gives 100% armor shred and my 30 storm bolts a second will shred each hit. More strength would probably just be best

[sly bobcat]

i also wonder if you're better with flat melee instead of increased phys

[winged swallow]

I want the storm bolts to do at least some damg

[sly bobcat]

i figured they were just for armor shred tbh

and that aftershocks were gonna be doing the damage

you only have 65 attunement and not much mana for the mana node to make an impact

you also don't even have the mana node

[winged swallow]

I don't need the mana node

only warcry and leap cost mana

[sly bobcat]

no i mean the one that makes stormbolt eat your mana to deal more damage

without that storm bolt does basically nothing

[winged swallow]

I guess I could take out two attack speed nodes for the mana gain and mana drain ones

[sly bobcat]

if you want the storm bolts to deal damage, yeah you'd need that

it'd be something around a 60% multiplier

you also don't need the attack speed with your insane attack speed already

[winged swallow]

now i need to swing more for more mana. so i'll keep atkspd on the gloves tho

[sly bobcat]

i just realized this is a shaman build too. you don't have any crit

with most of the damage coming from your aftershocks, a singularity might actually be a damage increase even accounting for the storm bolts

[mossy coral]

Noooo I forgot warcry is a spell!

[winged swallow]

My maelstrom's base crit chance will be increased by like 25% due to having 25 maelstrom stacks. So just some crit chance from the blessings will be enough for more then 50% chance to crit

[sly bobcat]

maelstrom doesn't crit. only the storm bolts gain base crit

[winged swallow]

I know GS gains the base crit chance

[sly bobcat]

and i guess the melee hit but gathering storm's melee attack does fkall for damage

the vast majority of your damage here is gonna come from aftershock procs

and those only have a 10% crit rate currently

[winged swallow]

GS having a base damg of 567, stat boost of 456% from str and over 2k% physical damg will make it do decent damg due to my atkspd. Pretty ok for a meme build

[sly bobcat]

it only has 100% ADE

[winged swallow]

yup

I know

[mossy coral]

Ok I made a planner around it and tsunami with crowwws
Crowstorm = You cast cold Vorb(It also gives increased cold damage!), it should deal nice damage and proc stuff for you
Tsunami is cold, both will get a crap ton of increased from totems and flat from crows, 17,6 mana regen from spriggan
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX9GvdL

[unkempt thistle]

Beastmaster, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (70) / Shaman (10) / Druid (12)

General:

▸ Health: 2,907, Regen: 512.24/s
▸ Mana: 317.51, Regen: 16.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 88 Str / 31 Dex / 19 Int / 82 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 94% / 78% / 63% / 68% / 61% / 146%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 895
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,074)

Used skills:

Maelstrom / Summon Storm Crows / Warcry / Summon Thorn Totem / Summon Spriggan

[mossy coral]

Should've changed the belt to something else

[sly bobcat]

i would try to find a way to budget the DoT aftershocks in. with only 10% crit the DoT version will end up dealing more damage since it deals the normal hit's damage 3 times.

[mossy coral]

The only issue left would be to cap 8 negative ailments, when crowstorm is on cooldown for Vorb

[sly bobcat]

at 100% crit chance you'd need 300% multi to equal the dot. at 10% and 278% it's not even close

[winged swallow]

wouldn't you just get rid of shatterquake and get the entire DoT side?

since the aftershock no longer hits

[sly bobcat]

you'd get rid of the shattered earth but keep the chilled damage. iirc Shatterquake is coded so that it still works with the DoT form

[winged swallow]

so like this?

[sly bobcat]

yeah

duration also directly correlates to a damage multiplier too

[winged swallow]

so each aftershock procced via idol will now technically be 5 aftershocks each?

[sly bobcat]

roughly yes

they just can't crit, but your crit chance is so low it's a significant boost

[near leaf]

Oh I get it

Why ?

[mossy coral]

If you clicked it before I corrected some stuff, different belt, points etc

[near leaf]

Why not go cleaver, instead of sword, giga cast speed with ladle

Its from that one

[mossy coral]

Empty slot basically, would be pen I guess too but more minion damage so they get more leech

Can't have them dying

[near leaf]

Why not Flat spell on prefix ?

I would change that in spriggan

[mossy coral]

Wasn't sure if I'd get enough increased cold damage, spriggan is giving 15 spell damage anyway

[mossy coral]

Yeah I've already changed that

[near leaf]

Oki

[mossy coral]

You should open the planner again I think

[near leaf]

I did

I am clicking rn

[mossy coral]

If it didn't update; https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJ3Nz1

[unkempt thistle]

Beastmaster, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (68) / Shaman (10) / Druid (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,907, Regen: 512.24/s
▸ Mana: 317.51, Regen: 16.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 88 Str / 31 Dex / 19 Int / 82 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 66% / 78% / 63% / 68% / 61% / 106%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 66%, Threshold: 895
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,884)

Used skills:

Maelstrom / Summon Storm Crows / Warcry / Summon Thorn Totem / Summon Spriggan

[near leaf]

Bro ...

[mossy coral]

Should be the same xD

[mossy coral]

Nice

[near leaf]

Why you do this to me catzy

trying to gaslight me like that

[mossy coral]

I just clicked save again before, already updated for you? 😮

If the crows would die the build is cooked

[mossy coral]

I would never

[neon steppe]

@wise leaf Sorry to ping but i know ur the scorpion king, im trying to find a way to make use of the 30% more damage in scorp based off of poison/shock/frostbite and was wondering two things

1. when it says 'hit' damage, does that mean it wouldnt apply to maelstrom tsunami
2. If im cold converted and take the lightning conversion as well, does it switch the effect to being based on shock or is it still frostbite?
   bonus question: i have no way to generate frostbite, i do have tempest totems though (can get shock easily) but not frostbite, any ideas?

node in question

[sly bobcat]

he was actually talking about maelstrom scorpion either this morning or last night

he said something like "Build seems like it does good damage but it's clunky"

[winged swallow]

Huh "Excited bolts" is a odd node. Sometimes I start a fight and my mana goes from 360 to 0 in a single frame. Like how many storm bolts just came out for that to happen...

[neon steppe]

i think he was doing melee tempest strike tho, damage is real good, 9m on dummies

just currently unable to make use of this mopd

mod*

[near leaf]

This is for hits
Maeltstrom is a dot so no good
Tsunami is a hit so good

[sly bobcat]

subskills don't naturally inherit the multipliers that care about the state of the target tho

it has to be specified on the subskill that it does like aftershocks vs chilled

[near leaf]

Thats different

Its the main skill subskill relation

Your whole Scorpion deals more hit dmg

[sly bobcat]

i guess this is the scorpion getting hte mod

yeah

[karmic bison]

This node multiplies all hit damage sources your scorpion would deal. Storm bolts from maelstrom, basic attacks, tsunami, and avalanche should all apply.

[neon steppe]

Bet, ty guys, from my testing it looks like the shock trick i was talking about does not work

[karmic bison]

Ive been playing a bit more of tsunami and just swapped to scorpion and it doesnt feel clunky at all. You just passively run through monos

[neon steppe]

the clear is great

[karmic bison]

When you need to boss you stack up tempest strikes and thats it.

[karmic bison]

Yep best primalist minion for clear

Vaporizes omens

[rare scarab]

For EQ Bear, do they manually spam eq or just let the bear do it I see i on their bar

[tardy frost]

speaking about clear how is saber for clear now? between upheaval and ancestral sabers?

I hear that the old active reset build is obsolete now

last time I played saber was in 0.8.3 or so

[karmic bison]

Sabertooth is very good too but just doesnt have screen wide aoe but super attack speed decent aoe and giga damage 50million+ dps in good gear

[tardy frost]

we're using julia's boots on every single companion build now right?

[karmic bison]

No

It only applies to melee attacks not spell and not dots

[rare scarab]

whats the rotation for this eq bear
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/LeonardDaVinci/character/xiongliu

spam swipe and then use all CD on CD?

Swipe is used to buff the bear?

[astral violet]

Any ideas for Gathering Storm?

[tardy frost]

wait right thankfully everything on saber is melee

[karmic bison]

Swipe for mana and to juice eq with shred and yeah spam cooldowns when needed.

Warcry should be on autocast numlock

While maping

[mortal elbow]

sadly no reactions to my hardcore exilus

try again

[rare scarab]

does frenzy totem also reset the eq cd on bear? or just his main CD

[mellow kestrel]

What’s this supposed to do?

[karmic bison]

It resets the bears roar ability

[mossy coral]

Hold down Maelstrom, get flat and mana regen from 1 spriggan and 5 crows, they stack bleed on enemies and you get 220 crit multi. Also cast cold volcanic orb on traversal skill

[rare scarab]

ok thx

[mellow kestrel]

Very interesting

[rare scarab]

would you reccomend the build for a beginner? i have a bit of gold i can get the 1lp version going quick

[karmic bison]

Yes its very easy to play and gear

[rare scarab]

awesome

currently at only 9m but it seemsl ike it could b eenough to get a decent set going. I just gotta look up how to power lvl an alt

played acolyte last few days its cool but i like the Primalist theme more

[mossy coral]

Ain't no way

[karmic bison]

9million dps or 9million gold for trade? Lol

[astral violet]

So apparently the answer to what made the mage go mad is, 'SPEEED.'

[mossy coral]

Gas, gas, gas!

[near leaf]

aWTF

[modern sage]

Does bleed chance for ME also affect bleed chance for my minions?

[mossy coral]

If it isn't stated its shared or also for minions/companions no.

[modern sage]

Ok thank you! Want to try out a wolf pack bleed build and needed that info for my gearing ideas

I suppose the same is true for 'bleed duration'?

[mossy coral]

Yeah, it need to say minions for it to be relevant for them

Such as this

[near leaf]

OO

Pretty good roll

[mossy coral]

Nice rolls

[near leaf]

Catzy !

I did a thing

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oN2Jwkx9

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (21) / Druid (72)

General:

▸ Health: 2,700, Regen: 518.5/s
▸ Mana: 315.01, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 83%, Regen: 130/s
▸ Attributes: 86 Str / 15 Dex / 15 Int / 38 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 11% / 11% / 11% / 44% / 11% / 26% / 26%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 1,370
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,883)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 56%

Used skills:

Werebear Form / Upheaval / Warcry / Fury Leap / Swipe

[devout cypress]

how is it?

[near leaf]

Dunno its planner

Like maybe its good

[devout cypress]

im working on a true immortal lich with bane of winter, null portent and blossom 😄

i want to stand in omen poison and laugh

[mossy coral]

Hmmm yeah that might not BEE that bad, I gave up on my regen build cause the damage was so terrible (Also you should try to take Ambush)

[raven sluice]

is the area from Turmoil (in Maelstrom tree) multiplicative, and does it apply to Tsunami?

[near leaf]

Ambush ?

[mossy coral]

In BM tree

You know, aspect of the shark

[near leaf]

Oh

Correct

[near leaf]

Probably additive, should apply

[raven sluice]

hmm

[mossy coral]

How much regen would the bees give btw, any clue?

Like roughly

[raven sluice]

that sounds like a node not to max, but gotta check I guess

[near leaf]

nope

[mossy coral]

Isn't queen bee killing the bees?

[near leaf]

Oh true

I wanted to complete the set

But then I can use weaver mace instead

With weaver amulet

[mossy coral]

That's at least what I think she does, haven't tried the set myself

I actually looove that amulet

Makes me want to do set builds even more

And stack attributes

[devout cypress]

sets + ammy was my spellblade league starter. I was doing 500c in actual set items non crafted

goes hard

[mossy coral]

The companion planner I sent should have 6 crit from that amulet, really really good

[devout cypress]

jormuns on melee is wild as well

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzW0dqE

[unkempt thistle]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,364, Regen: 151.8/s
▸ Mana: 372.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 320%, Regen: 149/s
▸ Attributes: 107 Str / 61 Dex / 107 Int / 25 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 74% / 146% / 87% / 115% / 61% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 687
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (433)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,101)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Teleport / Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike / Flame Ward

[devout cypress]

ignore the corruptions. its from when i thought corruptions wouldnt reroll the set items completely

[mossy coral]

Haha I did the same before the 26th

[near leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX93X5Z

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (21) / Druid (72)

General:

▸ Health: 2,879, Regen: 668.25/s
▸ Mana: 346.21, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 137%, Regen: 167/s
▸ Attributes: 99 Str / 34 Dex / 42 Int / 51 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 14% / 14% / 38% / 47% / 14% / 88% / 72%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 1,464
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (4,278)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 56%

Used skills:

Werebear Form / Upheaval / Warcry / Fury Leap / Swipe

[devout cypress]

i spent 30 corruption thingys on the weaver amulets trying to get a weaver amulet with brutality

and + all skills

[mossy coral]

Shatter strike meta

[devout cypress]

i mean 35 points to spend in a tree filled with more, pen and area is no joke

i also had a blackhole stack that got to 41 points

[mossy coral]

Lol, the +to skills is awesome

[devout cypress]

spine plus that ammy and legends goes hard

[mossy coral]

The acolyte sword?

[devout cypress]

put all stats on spine, core of the mountain, foot of the mountain and suddenly every stat is 100+

yea

[mossy coral]

[devout cypress]

then +5 vit idols with 50% increased prefix

who needs any other affix type when every stat gives you everything.

[mossy coral]

Yeah vitality idols is good with attribute stacking and free regen, not that it's that impactful on other classes

[devout cypress]

free res cap as well

can do a crazy void knight vit stack as well since they scale off vit

[mossy coral]

Looks better, Nest is perfect in theory

[wise leaf]

1: yes, as far as i know
2: it should be frostbite

[mossy coral]

Oh I noticed a flaw in my build, it's giving flat lightning

[mossy coral]

Omg EHG stop with the bugs...

Upheaval (or any melee attack) with larger than like 2 meter isn't considered a melee attack for aftershock idols -_-

It's too far and isn't melee enough to trigger aftershocks

Is close enough wth, why

Sick.

So for example Earthquake can't proc the idol if you're not close enough

@high stratus 😭

[mellow kestrel]

Aaron just showed this on stream

[mossy coral]

Is the attunement primordial?

[mellow kestrel]

Ya

[mossy coral]

Lol insane item

[mellow kestrel]

Crazy to think it can be better too. Missing an affix I think

[mossy coral]

Yeah only 3

Lol you don't even need to hit an enemy to proc aftershock idols, you just need to be close enough

[wise leaf]

okay back to my roots

back to scorp nova

and oh man it feels so good to play

again

[mossy coral]

I wanted to do upheaval aftershocks, EHG strikes again

[mellow kestrel]

Poison or lightning cook?

[mellow kestrel]

I like the node in shaman where you get triple +20 melee lightning every 2 seconds

[sly bobcat]

yeah it's always been like that. the avalanche boulder idols are the same iirc

[limpid veldt]

For scopion

[patent dock]

It's not a bug, aftershock idols simply target an enemy near you when you use a melee attack

[limpid veldt]

Which is the best type for it?

Poison, bleed or lightning?

[patent dock]

pretty much the same as all the other primalist idol procs, just shorter range than the others

[mossy coral]

Imo it should be able to proc on melee attacks, or change the description to say close to an enemy and not nearby

[patent dock]

It does proc on melee attacks

I think people misread it as on melee hit or something, it's not an uncommon confusion

[mossy coral]

It's so sad, I wanted a reason to use upheaval and aftershocks because now I'd get enough mana regen

[arctic glacier]

got my primalist alt leveling weapon 😄

[patent dock]

You would still want to be pretty close range for upheaval on single target anyway, since it has that multi for being close

[mossy coral]

Yes but not in their face, literally

[patent dock]

It's more intimate that way

[mossy coral]

I can't just click a monster, my character would upheaval waaaay before that

Another reason why I stopped playing upheaval werebear is because of the meter thing, when approaching an enemy you jump closer and the dmg isn't calculated on where you land

Since you're moving so much you also move away from the enemy

on the next maul

[wise leaf]

i jumped the gun

scorp nova isn't unpilotable in omen windows

this is SO GOOD for omen windows

everything is just evaporating as it spawns in

at the edge of the window

[sly bobcat]

poison nova scorpion is very good. @wise leaf is the scorpion guy and has a guide or two floating around

[wise leaf]

just one

[astral violet]

Gathering Storm seems to be surprisingly good at Omens.

[wise leaf]

ngl, my assumption would be the invincible omen would just eat a tonne of your storm bolts

[astral violet]

It doesn't seem to oddly. Of course, I haven't gotten anywhere difficult yet, but I'm almost accidentally finishing them.

[limpid veldt]

Well I might check the skills again

[wise leaf]

here's the guide

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/totemless-poison-nova-scorpion-beastmaster

[unkempt thistle]

Totemless Poison Nova Scorpion Beastmaster Build Guide

Game Version

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class

Primalist / Beastmaster

Used skills

• Swipe
• Summon Scorpion
• Warcry
• Eterra's Blessing
• Fury Leap

Used unique items

None

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Season Starter / Beginner / SSF / Melee / Minions / DoT

Created by CookBook · May 26, 2023, 9:42 AM

[wise leaf]

note that it's still like

hard to pilot

it's just not made significantly worse by omen windows

[sly bobcat]

Tags Beginner
hard to pilot

🤔

[wise leaf]

true

should remove that tag

i'll prolly do an update sometime this weekend

[limpid veldt]

wait

[wise leaf]

but it basically didn't change at all

[limpid veldt]

''BUILD IS CURRENTLY BUGGED"?

[wise leaf]

ignore the preface

it was

cos swipe was bugged

[limpid veldt]

ah ok

[wise leaf]

that's fixed

do need to rework the tree tho

not having any points in the chase

is criminal

that shit's so good

[limpid veldt]

hmm

do we have anything for poison pen with poison for minion?

[wise leaf]

it's called aspect of the viper

you stack viper effect

so you end up with >100% poison pen

• native poison stack res shred

to the point where raw poison pen on gear is largely pointless and inefficient

[winter ivy]

viper effect was great last season. it should be even better this season with omen idols and increased idol affix altars

[wise leaf]

correct

[limpid veldt]

hmm this one is worth trying

first

I wonder if I should go for t-rex and endurance stacking

[wise leaf]

no

[limpid veldt]

for minmaxing

[sly bobcat]

you can get havocs from generic rune prophecies right?

[limpid veldt]

forget the "reasonable 1 lp gear" thing

right now I want to try the minmaxed version first

[wise leaf]

you really don't get much more of a damage multi from Trex than you do from a dedication of the erased primalist

ummm 1 sec

[limpid veldt]

oh yeah

forgot that one exists

[wise leaf]

this was my planned minmax uberroth attempt gear

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3EGYvY

[unkempt thistle]

Beastmaster, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (88) / Shaman (5)

General:

▸ Health: 4,162, Regen: 197.34/s
▸ Mana: 425.51, Regen: 30.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 100 Str / 20 Dex / 10 Int / 49 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 76% / 76% / 72% / 127% / 70% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 1,581
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (109)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,220)
▸ Block Chance: 120%, Mitigation: 47% (1,770)

Used skills:

Summon Scorpion / Swipe / Eterra's Blessing / Warcry / Fury Leap

[wise leaf]

from last season

[limpid veldt]

I wonder if I should try cleaver

[wise leaf]

cleaver is fine

i suggest before like

planning out an endgame setup

try it and see if you like the playstyle

[limpid veldt]

well I'm doing so

[wise leaf]

many people don't like targetting EB

[sly bobcat]

you know i've never really had a problem with it in solo minion setups

I played bleed saber last season and it was fine

[limpid veldt]

this build does not require flat minion melee affix

[wise leaf]

correct

[limpid veldt]

so even 1h weapon works fine

[wise leaf]

bro you could be swiping things with your bare hands and this build has damage to do empowered

the weapon is basically the least important bit of the build

you care more about the mana regen from it than anything else

anyway g2g

if you got questions just shoot me an @ but i'll be answering them later

make sure to read the guide

often the questions will be answered in that

[limpid veldt]

why are there almost no weapon supporting poison minions?

[sly bobcat]

there's really not a ton of poison minions. I think it's wraiths, skelly rogues, mages(sorta), and scorpion

and 3 of those require conversion

[upper jungle]

ightning werebear tornado build is good this season?

the mana transform thing was a big nerf i think

[limpid veldt]

is there any way to make use of the bleed?

I see a lot of minion bleed chance among the available affixes

[patent dock]

There are other minions that do bleed well, probably better

bleed lends itself to running spriggan form, which doesn't let you use companion abilities

[sly bobcat]

a melee scorpion would be funny. watchin it snip snip everything

[wise leaf]

I mean, if you look at my uberroth one i was taking full bleed boosts from aspect of the boar and some minion bleed chance, but it only ended up being ~9% of my damage by my calcs

It's not really that worth, i was just trying to squeeze out as much dps as i could for uber

[limpid veldt]

I just feel a waste because why primalist has so many bleed affixes

[wise leaf]

Yeah but why get those when you can get cubic scaling from viper effect

[iron jetty]

Is eq bear tankier than abom Necro?

[viscid gulch]

Has anyone had success with playing around the buffed maelstrom?

[safe crescent]

Abom itself is tankier than the Bear due to abom using all the hp of the minions being sacrificed as its hp, but both minions doesnt have much problem in tankiness even in high corruption. Primalist however feels tankier than Necro with more damage taken reduction, endurance and hp passives while Necro has to rely on hp missing to ward hp to increase health.

[sly bobcat]

havoc plz you couldn't have done this the other way?

[dense heath]

What is best minion for clear? Sabertooth?

[shadow cosmos]

on primalist that or frogs ye

[runic loom]

does anyone know if they fixed this node not converting fully?

[sly bobcat]

they did not

[winter ivy]

I think it might actually be Scorpion

[upper jungle]

so. lightning tonrado werebear is still good?

[limpid veldt]

ah sry went to acolyte channel for a while

now, I don't think we will need bleed tbh

@wise leaf why do you stack attunement?

[winter ivy]

I think it's just to get the extra stats for red ring to activate

[shadow cosmos]

nuked from orbit

[patent dock]

For mana efficiency on EB and nova

[winter ivy]

Still strong, the top Druid/Primalist is using it: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Pang_E/character/totem

Rank 11 on the softcore corruption ladder.

[elfin plover]

can you use rune to make item primalist and get a tier 8 and imprint it?

[patent dock]

You will be able to imprint it, but it won't drop any T8 items

[wise leaf]

No offense, but this is like the #1 did not actually read the guide question

As toast said, mana efficiency

Eb+ nova cast is a lot of mana

[wise leaf]

as toast said it won't drop T8's, but it does count as a sealed T7 for the purposes of the imprint calculations which can be very beneficial if used properly

[limpid veldt]

ah sry, I did not check it well

[wise leaf]

i made sure the guide goes over all the mechanical stuff in depth

99% of questions will be answered by it

[limpid veldt]

but if you stack attunement why don't you just stack flat mana?

[midnight pasture]

yo

how do u get mana in tornado shaman?

[wise leaf]

i don't care about the mana

i care about mana efficiency

[limpid veldt]

oh wait

the skill blessing has mana efficiency per attunement

[wise leaf]

also venom nova itself

also warcry for what it's worth

[limpid veldt]

I thought it's was due to high cost so having higher mana to cast more

did not check the "per attumenent" on these skills

[winter ivy]

I always forget about the mana efficiency bit

[sly bobcat]

wish me luck we want that crit

[sly python]

The cast tornado on maelstrom use needs to have a higher chance I feel, 10% is just too low imo

[sly bobcat]

F

[wise leaf]

it is one of the rarest kinds of attribute scalings tbf

[patent dock]

Still a solid weapon for locust swarm

Well, I guess depending on the unique rolls lol

[sly python]

We really need more ways to build storm stacks

[sly bobcat]

i'm gonna corrupt it

t1 inc necrotic lol

[sly python]

oof

[sly bobcat]

lmao corrupted my other failed slam

we take those

[sly python]

could be way worse

Im still cooking on this fire bugman build

[wise leaf]

that sounds...

uniquely bad

lol

[sly python]

We're about to find out

still working on the planner at the moment, but this will be my weekend project'

[limpid veldt]

@wise leaf btw, scopion is good for bossing too right? with the additions of the idols in this season

[wise leaf]

it's.... serviceable

like it's not a bossing oriented build

the idol additions aren't gonna help that much

but you're tanky, can do very consistent dps

unless you're wanting to kill/farm uber there's nothing that's gonna be a problem

[sly python]

For EQ, if you convert it to fire, would that convert the aftershocks as well?

[near leaf]

Yes

[sly python]

Oh good, I was worried it wouldnt which really would have hurt what Im doing here

[limpid veldt]

fire aftershock using throne of ambition?

[sly python]

Swarmblade, using Bhuldars wrath to convert EQ and drop fire aftershocks while spitting out fire tornados

I also gotta get that channeled tornado beastmaster online

[sly bobcat]

finally cleared the triple omen window with upheaval

that is HECTIC with all of them triggered

[karmic bison]

I just want to say that lap relic is goated for primalist leveling.

and speed

[limpid veldt]

just realized

raptor can apply a lot stacks of bleed

[hidden plume]

Im trying to do spell caster totems with ferebor set dagger, legends entwined ring and eyes of the weaver amulet.

I think that upheval totem could be also build around attribute scaling

You easly get 100% crit from int or some combo of int and increased crit nodes

[tardy frost]

rngesus taketh and rngesus giveth

[tardy frost]

are locusts even playable though? Never seen a real build with them

[wise leaf]

i just got grim constitution drop for the first time and the ward threshold is working, but it doesn't show up on character sheet

[limpid veldt]

has anyone tried bleed raptor?

are they stronger than crit version?

[karmic bison]

yeah should be solid with totems too.

[hidden plume]

Im worried about my defenses though. The only things I picked up are Pale Ox Armor and Bear, but Im not sure if that's enough.

[tranquil lintel]

I've never played swarmblade, is the node that makes swarm strike consume bleeds and makes it deal 5% more damage per bleed actually good? "(bloodlust swarm)

[limber bramble]

hi

[tardy frost]

sup

[near leaf]

Yes

[tranquil lintel]

think its worth building around? because 5% increased uncapped damage sounds pretty strong to me

[mortal elbow]

In combat vs a dummy my ward dropped down to 300, are u sure?

[karmic bison]

Well u have 3 invulnerabilities too

[hidden plume]

Fury leap, fury leap and freeze with warcry right? Is it enough?

[near leaf]

The node is strong, but locust Swarm is a bit lacking mono target

Haven't played it in ages

[karmic bison]

With enough cdr I think so

Run flight of the quzzi queso boots too lol

[tranquil lintel]

im running both with around 30% cdr and it makes the crazy omen echoes alot easier when you can just immune the big attacks from champions

[wise leaf]

what build

[karmic bison]

with max cdr using a t8 cdr, and all the base gear implicits with cdr, and such you can get fury leap to a 1.3 second cool down, and war cry will have a 1.2 second cooldown. so you could theoretically chain invlunverability while only have a .5 or less window of being able to take damage 😄

[mortal elbow]

Just normal froggos

[wise leaf]

nothing that would be draining your ward?

[mortal elbow]

Shouldnt

[wise leaf]

no apathy conversion in amulet?

wait no that doesn't do anything

actually just upload your planner to LE tools and i'll have a look

[mortal elbow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/NightUwUSky/character/NightFroggoSky

[wise leaf]

hmmm yeah weird

idk

[wise leaf]

i'll have to test it again

[wise leaf]

oh yeah it doesn't show on character sheety

[mortal elbow]

but it goes down to the threshold it says in my caracter

[hidden plume]

Yeah. I have Fury Leap on about a 3‑second cooldown. Between Fury Leaps I cast Tempest Totems. I’m wondering if Tempest Totem is a better choice than Storm Totem.

[karmic bison]

u can also stacx guile.. get 150 dex and have around 30% extra cdr on top.

so over 300% cdr is possible proably roughly 350% tops.

[hidden plume]

Hmmm tempting to try

[karmic bison]

and then u can just stack dodge and be immortal

[unreal field]

Does anyone know if gathering storm double casts can trigger double cast themselves? Experiencing some visible feedback loops indicating that they do infect trigger on themselves.
Only possible source for that would be “Lightning strikes twice” which is the only double cast on hit.

Whenever you hit a boss or rare enemy with a Storm Bolt you have a chance to cast it again at the same enemy after 0.25 seconds

Assuming 5+ rares on top of each other.

[karmic bison]

get like 50% chance to dodge inbetween a .3 second window of being able to take damage

and if u really want to abuse this

[unreal field]

The effect was more visible during last season when I played converted bleed (longer kill time with stacks build up). Even freezing my game.

But it already happened with 2+ rares, which I can’t explain

[karmic bison]

transform dance into wearbear and back for an extra 60% damage reduction that lasts for 2 seconds 🙂

play eq wearbear 🙂

immortal with decent damage.

[karmic bison]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om6rwnKY

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (25) / Shaman (15) / Druid (48)

General:

▸ Health: 1,708, Regen: 39.6/s
▸ Mana: 192.61, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 71 Str / 113 Dex / 7 Int / 30 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 21% / 21% / 18% / 0% / 7% / 7%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 342
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,587)

Used skills:

Fury Leap / Earthquake / Swarmblade Form / Summon Bear / Warcry

[karmic bison]

bug form better since u can actually cast eq in that form too

anyways pretty funny

[near leaf]

Isn't it just because while your minions fight, you are considered in combat?

[mortal elbow]

the ward decay has nothing to do with combat

[high stratus]

There's this too

Conflux 5 Point Bonus
Your indirect Storm Bolt casts have a chance to cast again after 0.25 seconds.
Does not scale with points allocated
Chance for Indirect Storm Bolt Casts to Doublecast: 20%

I have no idea if they can trigger more storm bolts if the enemy is packed in tightly

storm bolt AOE is tiny, something you quickly learn if you try to aim it with the staff-casting GS node

[near leaf]

Oo correct

[high stratus]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
I asked, we'll see if they answer

[wise root]

Anyone using maxrolls anurok frog bm guide? with storm crow and bear summoned i have 9 frogs, is that right? i have the +4 idol and the node in the wolf tree so it auto summons and wolf and the skill is permanantly howl.

[proud basin]

yes 9 frogs

[unreal field]

Yes, together it should be able to loop with 4+ stacked rares. Warcry pull helps with stacking them

[wise root]

do you play this build? are you able to sustain the mana costs? as i run out of mana quite fast holding down frenzy/howl/roar when mapping

[mortal elbow]

well if u get exilus ur mana problems are gone

[wise root]

never heard of it

[tranquil lintel]

how does that work?

[wise root]

fair enough but thats just a lucky corrupt to get apathy ?

doesn't look particularly realistic esp for me at level 76 struggling with mana

[mortal elbow]

it always has 2 of them

[mortal elbow]

then idols

[tranquil lintel]

exulis always drops with stat conversions so its not that hard to get

[wise root]

how do you even fight the boss for it anyway? i did one of the new omens veil echos but didn't receive anything to then spawn a boss? not looked into it much yet

[mortal elbow]

u need to have all 3 active at the same time

[wise root]

i did

finished all 3 at once

then killed them all

[mortal elbow]

then u should have dropped an echo

[wise root]

ohh

fractured prison

?

[mortal elbow]

yes

[wise root]

my bad, yeah i have 1 ok

does this boss have any mechanics like uber abby to watch out for?

[mortal elbow]

just a cracked up orobis

[idle meadow]

just imagine u fight 3 orobyss on corr 600

[spring sigil]

I keep seeing mention of swarmblade conversion being bugged; which part of it is specifically bugged? does anyone know

[lavish sorrel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olV7JKjG

[unkempt thistle]

Beastmaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Primalist (21) / Beastmaster (77) / Druid (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,605, Regen: 562.38/s
▸ Mana: 250.13, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 238%, Regen: 118/s
▸ Attributes: 89 Str / 14 Dex / 89 Int / 14 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 86% / 207% / 108% / 143% / 92% / 110% / 62%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,061
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (91)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,379)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 14%

Used skills:

Summon Storm Crows / Swipe / Tempest Strike / Summon Frenzy Totem / Summon Spriggan

[rare scarab]

best twink gear for primalist alt?

[astral violet]

I think that node specifically needs a lot better targeting.

[high stratus]

i tried it on controller one and it was fine, then I tried it on M&KB and it's just unusable

[astral violet]

Laup's Path, Doublet, Arboreal Circuit, the lvl6 Swiftness Gloves, Dex Boots.... Reach of the Grave...

[high stratus]

also just noticed that conflux in on cast not on hit, LST is on-hit so it doesn't seem like conflux benefits from overlapping enemies

[astral violet]

Well, I'm doing okay with it so far, but it is quite frustrating.

[high stratus]

should be like smite imo

[astral violet]

Yeah, sounds about right.

I want to know exactly which nodes work and which don't work with that node. It's unclear, and I think I understand which do and don't, but some clarification would always be appreciated.

[wise root]

ig my bladedancer shuriken build isn't good enough, mfer keeps one shotting me at some point

[high stratus]

I think if it refers to melee or attack it won't work because it's a spell

you're unlikely to hit three targets but I'm pretty sure island cleaver won't work

eg Jolting Strikes shock chance works but more melee damage does nothing

[astral violet]

Yeah, sure. It makes your pathing very awkward. I guess I'm just annoyed at how restrictive the node is. I want to cast, not attack, but because of that I'm locked into using a Staff (not preferred), I have to avoid (or take as tax) certain nodes, the targeting is terrible....

[high stratus]

manafused storm & energized by the skies work

[rare scarab]

shit this is killing me du eto the bleed lol

how do i fix that

[astral violet]

Get Regen.

[high stratus]

idk about tax, can't imagine a tree you'd want that doesn't take looming clouds & lightning strikes twice

[rare scarab]

ill take off the thing for now

[clear phoenix]

What setup are people using for high corruption on the Frog build ?
I got Cleaver + Naals now but is cleaver + Bastion bis ? or can u push just fine with Cleaver and Naals ?

[rare scarab]

im just dying this is slower lvling so far

[clear phoenix]

dont believe that twohanded axe is any good that i see some people use

[tranquil lintel]

put some points into the leech node in primalist tree perhaps?

[astral violet]

I mean, okay... it's quite manageable for me. Just get some Ward somewhere, or hey. I can tell you that the Cleanse node on Fury Leap happens before the Bleeds are applied.

[rare scarab]

im lvl 5

[astral violet]

Yeah, get some Ward. Corrupt Arboreal Circuit to get Ward per second. THat's just one option.

[rare scarab]

oh ok

[astral violet]

Effectively, what Laup's path does is make you pay life for the totems it creates rather than Mana.

Oh, and of course just Physical Resistance will work.

[rare scarab]

i used to just buy an item and go kick ass this on eseems like more work

[astral violet]

If you're comfortable with LL, Exsanguinous completely trivializes it.

[rare scarab]

ok back to mg then

[astral violet]

I think Laup's Path is very good, as yes, it requires more effort than just 'put on and go', but the power you receive from it is STUPID good.

[high stratus]

I think it may genuinely be a tough choice between stormcarved testament and some form swapping with laups for spriggan totems

[astral violet]

Quite possibly. I'm not familiar with the Testament.

[high stratus]

it's the relic which buffs player & minion lightning stuff and gives you a chance to summon storm totem on hit

used on spriggan shaman totem builds to summon storm totem while in spriggan form

[astral violet]

Oh, what's the level requirement on that? (I feel like I need to get this for my build.) 😉

[high stratus]

78

[astral violet]

Yeah... at least for Sorch, we've been discussing leveling uniques.

[high stratus]

farmed from Lagon monolith boss fight

[tranquil lintel]

laup is possibly my favourite item in the game. Its well designed

[hidden plume]

Chance to summon storm totem should be on some idol

[astral violet]

There's a lot of things that 'should' be on idols.

[hidden plume]

Yeah

For fun

[rare scarab]

whats the bet weapons to use while twink lvling

i have reach of grave what offhand?

[tranquil lintel]

Firestarter's torch is cracked

[rare scarab]

is the tyrants skull good once i get 36? I dont like totems stuff

[patent dock]

Locusts no, locust swarm yes. Locust swarm is the melee DOT aura, not the minions.

[rare scarab]

gonna try that

[raven sluice]

any verdict on scorpion tsunami yet?

I'm doing my usual, low life primalist stuff, using so much apathy I can't even spend my mana lul

but shaman gathering storm tsunami with a scorp seems really cool

[trail valley]

any new toys for swipe+aftershock werebear in the patch?

[raven sluice]

it's lightning whatever that means I guess?

since it's DoT, it should mostly be an upgrade unless you had a lot of phys maelstrom stacks?

since DoT cant use armor shred anyway

[mortal elbow]

he removes resistens u need clense, do u have clense ?

[mortal elbow]

what corruption is high ?

[raven sluice]

idk what they meant, but imo for a casual homebrew 1000 corruption is very high, for a minmaxed meta build it would probably be several times that though?

[rare scarab]

why does Bear EQ build use cleaver? what does int provide for that

unless u can make EQ scale off int? or for the +1 skills and str

[raven sluice]

madness maybe something, int would be ward or doubling some spell dmg buff from storm crow?

[clear phoenix]

+1000 i would say

[mortal elbow]

dmg should be fine with cleaver bastion

[patent dock]

Without having a link to the build, I can only guess ward retention, +1 skill level, and some extra strength.

[rare scarab]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/LeonardDaVinci/character/xiongliu

[high stratus]

maxroll guide says it's to reach 180 attributes for red rings more easily

[rare scarab]

hmm but none of these people on lb using rr

[high stratus]

also axes can roll both flat melee affixes

[rare scarab]

ooh

[high stratus]

so axes are good

why that axe though, maybe the +1 skills only?

[raven sluice]

is dmg to mana before life before or after ward btw?

[high stratus]

after

[raven sluice]

rip

[high stratus]

I'm pretty sure

[raven sluice]

I wonder if I should use Laup's Path + Frostbite Shackles

cuz shaman res

[tardy frost]

damage to health is dealt to mana blah blah - ward is not health

[raven sluice]

rip

[patent dock]

Technically, there are two different damage to mana stats. The one that works for ward is only granted by a node on flame ward.

[rare scarab]

im gonna go bm bear asap just for kicks. probably slow but im bored

[patent dock]

tbh on this exact setup, it might just be because they have a good 2 LP roll

It doesn't offer them anything too major that a second Naal's wouldn't do better.
That said, they may have it equipped because eventually they plan on using more ward, idk.

[lofty rover]

The reason why they are using cleaver instead of 2 naals its because they are using the trex relic and intelligence gives penetration so at 180 strength =180 intelligence now your bear gets 36 %penetration

[rare scarab]

oh shit epic

also btw , does endurance work for dots?

[lofty rover]

If you skip trex relic then 2 naals is better overall,

[lofty rover]

Works for dots and hits

[patent dock]

Ah right, forgot about t rex lol

[proud basin]

why don't frog build take this?

[patent dock]

Yeah, works for everything, even helps against one-shots

[patent dock]

Frogs are not companions

[raven sluice]

architects of astral blood or legends entwined for just early endgame LL shaman tsunami?

[proud basin]

ah ic

no effect on frog then

[raven sluice]

bleed immune on exsanginious could be nice for Laups

but I have an LP0 so it's complete garbage

[patent dock]

Right

[patent dock]

Do you have many set items to make use of entwined?

[raven sluice]

atm, I just got halvar on relic, so ring would give me +40 spell dmg, but my experience last season was spamming reforged sets is very strong early with legends entwined

body would give me just like that tons more EHP though

either would be a huuuuge upgrade probably, but ring needs some crafting

I'll get the body for now, just cuz it kind of single handedly solves my tankyness for lvl 90 echoes

went from 1.7k ward to 3214 with giga surplus generation lul

or maybe it's not capped, it flickers?

[rare scarab]

okay i added evolutiosn end and talmat book, now this build is getting kinda nuts for lvling.

but i wont stay for long on this build im not a fan of shaman or totem. i want a big puppy bear

once i can use trex and cleaver ill swap

so lvl 36

wait si sabertooth better than bear for solo pet lvling build?

nvmind i dont get that until way too late

[raven sluice]

saber is quite nice, idk how it compares to bear though

bear was just over the top last season, this season it got nerfed, saber was solid and probaly still is but might still not compete with bear for all I know

lul, I got 41 mana regen

literally cannot spend it

[proud basin]

if I play frog and only want minion flat dmg on 2-hand axe then is there any point in keeping t7 of minion flat of other weapon type?

can I transfer the t7 mod to other weapon type somehow?

[rare scarab]

so weird to me they nerfed stuff like bear, reflect shaman, and frogs(i know technically a "bug fix") but Ballista Falconer still does his thing lol

what are they 10x more corruption than primalist for 3 seasosn now?

[proud basin]

more like x5 but they need to be how many time stronger to have enough dps for that

cause x5 corruption doesnt mean x5 power clearly

[rare scarab]

silver shroud is a mistake

[proud basin]

or is it?

[rare scarab]

imo

design wise. too OP

[patent dock]

They've made it a lot easier to get frequently than it used to be. It was fine back when it was harder to get.

But yeah, rogue always has some broken build(s) that get little to no nerfs for several seasons

[proud basin]

the 2nd strongest build is also rouge

shadow rend

do ballista level dmg but also immortal

and of course has silver shroud anyway

only draw back is your GPU

[rare scarab]

i like pets tho so i go BM. not dumb crossbows actual pets

[earnest junco]

jokes on it.
My cpu cant handle it either

[rare scarab]

primalist still needs their qol pass like they did on sentinel. like Eterara targeting and malestrom maybe having an auto cast

or auto cast on both like how sent got for their stuff

[winged swallow]

this will do while I hunt for like 10 2LP ones and brick all of them

[sly python]

this is the way

[sly bobcat]

just miss the second affix and then apply it with a corrupt like i did

[mellow kestrel]

Does spriggan hit pretty hard with gladiator of lagon?

[elfin plover]

anybody playing frog build and having problem with big omen ABC to clear it? i one shot boss but for clearing lot of mobs its a problem

[wise leaf]

Haha i've done similar cos i was corrupting them to try get max roll corruption

But i was just buying ones off market and slapping a rune of corruption on them cos i don't care about any of the affixes

[runic loom]

Has anyone done an optimal idol setup for Shattered Lance regen? Having trouble on choosing the best altar

What i have for now

[devout cypress]

the 4 quads is best

ocular

[near leaf]

Quad adorned?

[devout cypress]

not adorned

[mossy coral]

I may or may not have found some good tech for maelstrom stacking

[patent dock]

Depends on whether you are transformed or not

[mossy coral]

It will in fact blow your mind

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om6rRPkJ

[unkempt thistle]

Shaman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (21) / Shaman (55) / Druid (12)

General:

▸ Health: 4,055, Regen: 547.08/s
▸ Mana: 1,108.51, Regen: 58.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 58%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 50 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 204 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 163% / 115% / 90% / 81% / 64% / 58% / 55%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 52%, Threshold: 875
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,983)

Used skills:

Maelstrom / Warcry / Summon Thorn Totem

[near leaf]

🥵🥵🥵

2 questions

[mossy coral]

Yeah go ahead

[near leaf]

Why Oblation?

Oh I see

Necrotic

Don't mind

What's the secret tech though?

[mossy coral]

You will have 20 ignites on you, will be 600 ward x2 every 2 seconds

Delete your health for ward, can finally have the mana regen required to spam maelstroms

[near leaf]

Could go Weaver ring

[mossy coral]

Remove the downside of apathy basically

[near leaf]

Give you ward based on missing hp and mana

[mossy coral]

Can it beat 600 ward?

I don't think you'll have that much missing mana, I think you'll always have max mana ish

But maybe?

[near leaf]

Hefty mana spent as ward too

[mossy coral]

True

[sly bobcat]

weaver ring is honestly really good

just sucks getting the stats you want on it

tends to be a "good enough" item most of the time

[mossy coral]

I've no idea how health regen would affect this or if you'd be above 100 health, but in theory having health gain between the casts twisted heart would give some ward too

[tranquil lintel]

how does the taste for blood axe and increased bleed duration interact?

if anybody knows

[limpid veldt]

ok so the sabertooth animation is still bugged?

[sly bobcat]

it doubles your bleed speeds so increased duration is still just extra damage

[mossy coral]

Why is he dead

[limpid veldt]

idk

[patent dock]

You can stack guile and get maelstroms from dive or roar
Or just be low life and ignore apathy downside

[limpid veldt]

.

[sly bobcat]

he's napping

[near leaf]

Got killed by the necrotic aoe

[limpid veldt]

it has been so since season 3

[mossy coral]

Death aura

[near leaf]

Just for you then 😅

[runic loom]

is it worth playing transformed? swarmblade wont convert, maul is limited by cooldown

[near leaf]

Got a friend who plays it, in s3 aswell and it's working just fine

[limpid veldt]

and that dead sabertooth can still attack things

like an alive one

[sly bobcat]

yeah it slides around

looks funny when it happens. sometimes they do it while standing stockstill

[mossy coral]

Having it necrotic is more the reason to stack maelstroms and cast speed, flat damage, frenzy, ignites turned into ward. You won't have any damage if you're stacking dex though

[limpid veldt]

glad that I'm not the only one

[patent dock]

I'm not sure, swarmblade might be viable at least, if they ever make locust swarm convet all the way again, it will be nice

[sly bobcat]

i'm not sure what causes it tbh

[sly bobcat]

imagine it turns into a 2 point conversion like swipe because "There might be some room for hybrid damage type so partial conversion is better"

[mossy coral]

Sabertooth can also lose all of it's skin, you'll see the eyes, mouth, tail some arteries

Real spooky

[patent dock]

lol, would be annoying but I'll take it at this point tbh

Swarmblade is point hungry as is, so it would be a direct dps nerf

[sly bobcat]

my printer's slicing software has an AI image-to-model feature now. maybe I can make a printable primal raptor

i think ripping the actual model would involve decompiling the game and that's a pain

[patent dock]

Stacking dex gets you flat damage from mourningfrost

[mossy coral]

yeah but increased, with -phys -cold

[patent dock]

Nah, it would be in the asset bundle, not the code

[sly bobcat]

i couldn't find anything when I was digging through the folder but I also didn't look very hard

[mossy coral]

If my math is correct this should be 44 maelstrom stacks without warcry 👀

[winged swallow]

Man Physical GS is so amazing for armor shred. My only source of shred is 100% chance per per storm bolt to shred armor. Bosses are at 400-600 stacks from GS alone

So many storm bolts

don't even have the helmet affix yet

[sly bobcat]

that's a lotta rocks

[winged swallow]

Making me a chainsaw out of rocks

HAHAHAHAHA

I manually crashed my game HAHAHA

I used storm bolt fury leap into a pack cluster of like 60 mobs. They all went to like 7000 armor shred stacks and my game crashed

That's AMAZING

[raw elm]

hmm, waht would be the best bang for buck gear upgrade? (It's cold stormbolt rampage werebear wiht tornado)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om6rRk3k

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (13) / Shaman (15) / Druid (58)

General:

▸ Health: 2,010, Regen: 53.31/s
▸ Mana: 877.16, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 9/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 99 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 51% / 106% / 77% / 78% / 87% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 542
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (138)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,376)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 76%

Used skills:

Werebear Form / Maelstrom / Warcry / Gathering Storm / Tornado

[crude cosmos]

Throne of ambition is great for cold builds

40% more damage and armor

[raw elm]

okay, should I worry about my defense?

[sly bobcat]

2k health is really low

[raw elm]

how much should I aim for?

[sly bobcat]

really the only builds that get away with 2k health are builds generating a bunch of ward

3.5k is pretty average for progression through abby. you can get up above 4k with a few good legendaries

[raw elm]

okay then, what gear slot give the most HP

is it the chest?

[sly bobcat]

yeah generally on your body armor

the dodge rating on your gear is mostly wasted. even with the increased dodge per maelstrom stack you have, it's not enough to matter

that could pretty easily be swapped for health

specifically you want % Increased Health affixes. Of the Ox and Of the Giant. they're suffixes. Ox can show up on Body, Belt, Helmet

Giant on Belt, Gloves, Boots

[crude cosmos]

make sure endurance and crit avoid is capped too

[sly bobcat]

those are important but I would focus on fixing the health first

your belt could be replaced with just a strong exalted belt instead of lightning in a bottle*. it doesn't offer you too much, and a belt with T7 Inc Health+T5 Hybrid Health would be a massive jump in health

those are the things that standout the most for easier upgrades

[raw elm]

yeah, I have been using it for stack the maelstorm when I was low lv but lately I start to think it wastes my gear slot for too long

[sly bobcat]

this is the only thing I changed on your planner and it gives an extra 700 raw HP and ~1200 EHP

[raw elm]

but can't decide to drop it lol. thanks I feel comfortable to drop it now

[sly bobcat]

primalist also has access to Inc Health on his idols and I'd recommend that over the maelstrom chance

these guys

maelstrom chance per 3s is just overall pretty low value compared to the EHP that the Health idols give

that should all be a pretty good jumping off point to get you going

[raw elm]

wow this's a lot of good advice

thank you sir

[sly bobcat]

np. i don't know what prices are like on merchant's guild, but those would be the first things I looked to replace if I were buying gear outright. if you're CoF just get to grindin

[limpid veldt]

I want to ask

how much damage from yulia's path can a minion earn?

is it better than frenzy totem?

[sly bobcat]

yulia's path doesn't technically have a cap I thought

[limpid veldt]

you mean the minion can has the buff stack infinitely for something?

[sly bobcat]

each stack lasts a certain period of time, but there's not a limit to how many you can have

if you can generate the maelstrom, you get yulia's path stacks

so there's a technical limit since stacks don't refresh each other, but there's theoretically no limit. if you could generate infinite maelstrom, you could get infinite yulia's path damage

frenzy totem is probably easier overall

[limpid veldt]

because I don't know how to generate infinite maelstrom

[winter ivy]

it's a very old build by Dread, but you can see Yulia's in action: https://youtu.be/7gI_VeR2f-o?si=6asMgTDN8Fm7opCO

[limpid veldt]

ah ok

but for bears and cold sabertooth

it is still better than frenzy totem right?

[mossy coral]

Yulia only cares about duration not stacks and the buff stacks you just can't see it

[sly bobcat]

yulia's path was the tech people were using for the initial bearquake builds

[limpid veldt]

okay I need a deeper explanation about this

since we don't just replace frenzy totem with that boots if it does not give more dmg

[sly bobcat]

look up bearquake with yulia's path

basically any time you generate maelstrom, you get a stacking flat damage bonus for the duration of the maelstrom. so you want to generate as much maelstrom as possible with as long a duration as possible on each one

which means using the increased duration but limited to 1 stack alongside the multicast node

which is really weird and counter-intuitive, but yulia's path only cares that maelstrom was cast. not how many you have. the stacking flat damage that your companions get is based on those casts

does that make sense

[limpid veldt]

ah ok

so I need to direct cast it a lot?

[sly bobcat]

probably just whenever the lagon stacks are maxed. I would definitely look up a guide because it would have a better explaination of the execution

[limpid veldt]

the only problem when I attempt yulia's path is that frenzy totem gives saber double cast

while it gives bear nothing

[mossy coral]

Love one shots

[limpid veldt]

@sly bobcat do you think yulia still better for sabertooth than frenzy?

[sly bobcat]

for crit? maybe, dunno. for bleed definitely not

i played bleed last season and it was okay. cleared up to like 1k corruption but couldn't really do uber

[limpid veldt]

I guess experiment shows everything

I kill dummy faster with frenzy for sabertooth

I still don't know how many additional dmg people can get using yulia's path for a fight like uberroth

and even bear

I could not find any guide that fully justifies the usage of yulia's path over frenzy totem

[lofty rover]

There was a guy last league that demolished uber in like 11 seconds ty to Yulia path with bear and that is not possible to do with frenzy totem

[limpid veldt]

wait 11 sec?

[lofty rover]

Yep

[limpid veldt]

do you have the link?

the fastest link I have is 23 sec

[lofty rover]

Chadilao posted vid on channel here on discord

[crude cosmos]

So we dont need to complete all level 90 timelines for empowered anymore? Just get enough points and we are good?

[limpid veldt]

still that's the case of bear

in sabertooth we have the totem resetting its ability and allow it to double cast

for bear frenzy totem gives it nothing

so I'm still not sure

[lofty rover]

Frenzy totem is good and solid thats for sure ,bear had so many more multipliers that with cooldwon reduction Yulia path gave insane flat damage to it so it was a lot stronger than running frenzy totem,didn't need to run the trex relic even

[limpid veldt]

yeah

I'm just not sure for the sabertooth case

because for sabertooth its companion ability matters

[patent dock]

It's kinda same as last season, gotta get your way to the level 90 monos somehow, and then you only need to complete one level 90 to get emp. Only difference is now campaign ch 9 and 10 can each replace a normal timeline towards reaching the level 90s

[near leaf]

Maelstrom base duration is 7 sec
With all the inc duration in the tree > 240% x 7 = 23.8 sec lets say 24 sec, its easier for after
You get 4 casts per warcry every 5 sec without cdrs so that 4 warcry during the first 20sec > 20 casts of maelstrom
You get 4 casts with beneath the wave every 4 sec > 6 casts = 24 casts of Maelstrom

We get a total of 44 casts of Maelstrom at second 20. Max rolled Yulia is 4 Flat per Cast > 176 Flat Melee Dmg
Its the equivalent of 5.5 max rolled t7

[patent dock]

I thought warcry was 4 casts?

[near leaf]

Indeed

But I calc with 4 no ?

Yes

[tranquil lintel]

think you typed 5 but your maths worked for 4

Someone mentioned earlier casting eq as bug form, and im at a loss, besides buldhars wrath. Is there something im not seeing

[patent dock]

Would be 16 stacks from 4 warcries, but I didn't check the end

[near leaf]

By second 20 you have casted 5 times

0/5/10/15/20

OO

[patent dock]

Ah yeah, the time interval is around 25ish rather than 20

[near leaf]

And we hit !!!!

[limpid veldt]

hmm, interesting.

[patent dock]

Unethical

[near leaf]

🙏

[limpid veldt]

because even with that theoretical damage, I still kill uberroth faster with frenzy

[near leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/spirit-giving-go-go-on-dragon-ball-goku-gif-17441313

[limpid veldt]

what do you expect the corrupted result to be?

[limpid veldt]

maybe the ability refresh and double cast does matter

[patent dock]

It's not about expectations, it's about the gamble

[near leaf]

Dont care, I just gamble

[limpid veldt]

and the frenzy stuff allows sabertooth to cast more frequently

[patent dock]

Not bricked

lol

[near leaf]

Not needed, but at least not a brick

[midnight pasture]

yo

can someone explain how u get mana back when u use this helmet

[near leaf]

What helmet ?

😄

[patent dock]

That fire and cold res 👀

[near leaf]

Fine

Its Fine

[near leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[midnight pasture]

i dont understand

i cant play the game when i put this on

[near leaf]

Stack Mana Regen and hit

You need quite a bit of mana regen on gear to make it worth

[midnight pasture]

that sucks

[near leaf]

And then a lot of hits

[midnight pasture]

the guide he just has all attunement everywhere

[near leaf]

Shaman ?

[midnight pasture]

i see now

thank u

[patent dock]

You have to hit, and you need a certain amount of inc mana regen before it breaks even and then becomes a multiplier to your mana regen

[midnight pasture]

yes shaman

[near leaf]

You get mana regen per attunement

[midnight pasture]

i have attunement tho

its not working

guess i need more

[near leaf]

Wanna share your planner?

Not the guide

Your actual character

Do you know how to get it easily ?

[midnight pasture]

damn thats gonna be rough now im looking

i only got it on 2 slots of gear

i need it everywhere

yea its cooked

[near leaf]

In the mean time, use a different helmet

[midnight pasture]

nah ill just come back to it when i save up the gold

but ty i understand how it works now

i was trippin out before