kaka?
#🔱┃sentinel
turbid dome
forest kelp
Certainly, because I have over 1.4k mana
If your mana is too low, you won't regenerate enough to bonk multiple times
turbid dome
no what does kaka mean?
forest kelp
That's just a confirmation laugh
forest kelp
I stopped at 660 corruption after a fast run up. Boss fights are very slow, but clearing mono is very smooth. I need to find more gear for him🤨
forest kelp
WTF, Titan Heart 3LP with a 0.08 rate, why do I see so many people have it?🤨
forest kelp
Beast master is a better melee choice even though I don't like his body build
turbid dome
This is a sad day
alpine canopy
This is a sad day
I guess in a kinda roundabout way, pally will get a "new" skill, VR
and vengeance changes as well as others will probably open up new options, similar to new skills being added
I'm still torn between all three masteries for which to do on 1.2 launch lol
they each have some spicy changes
round sphinx
Hello. Does minion damage works on forged weapons?
waxen nymph
Yes
round sphinx
Thank you.
waxen nymph
Also they take stats from your weapon(s)
So %Inc Minion Dmg on weapon is not really good but Shared %Pen is pretty nice
round sphinx
I see
waxen nymph
Are you looking at going Dot (Bleed or Ignite) or Hit Crit?
turbid dome
If you can get phantom grip rings
round sphinx
just google them, didnt know them. Very nice!
alpine canopy
guess what Im gonna play
Hmmm, probably something void, so... Bladedancer! 
turbid dome
Hmmm, probably something void, so... Bladedancer! <:kappa:570776921554681905>
a void dot build
alpine canopy
I'll be waiting to see the changes to stuff like VR before I commit to a DOT build personally
I suspect they won't give us triple damage on all our DOTs, so bossing is likely to be worse for those kinds of builds than currently
alpine canopy
forest kelp
Creativity is endless🤭
Haven't seen anyone build Warpath 2H weapon with Warrior's Fury and Dark Nexus yet?
forest kelp
Another raw drop, but all the rolls are terrible
forest kelp
Healing won't affect the affix converting health to ward, right? I rarely use this option and have had issues with health regen
analog ingot
Does devouring orb do damage on its own or just from the rifts it spawns on kill?
waxen nymph
Healing won't affect the affix converting health to ward, right? I rarely use th...
No it doesn't but you can get Ward per Healing Effectiveness I believe in HH tree
waxen nymph
Does devouring orb do damage on its own or just from the rifts it spawns on kill...
Not from the start but there is a node that makes it so
haughty canopy
And you get added damage per heal effect on hh too
forest kelp
Healing hand?
turbid dome
Healing hand?
HH = healing hand
forest kelp
Last time I played Sentinel was 4 months ago, I was lying in bed, let me check on the web
I picked up a armor yesterday, though the type isn't great😁
waxen nymph
I'll look great slammed on a 3lp Titan Heart
forest kelp
Spent nearly 400 Glyphs of Envy, and I farmed all the blessings with max stats for my vk
forest kelp
I'll look great slammed on a 3lp Titan Heart
Still farming, spent 2m favor in the last two days, and I've only gotten a few with 2lp
cobalt blade
Okay, so Null Portent is not really the cream of the crop for VK, yes?
all the leech lines are kind ehh?
compared to Titan Heart
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cobalt blade
Engiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
turbid dome
Wickkkkeeeeeeddddd
cobalt blade
hehe
turbid dome
marble quest
Don't worry, we got it!
forest kelp
No it doesn't but you can get Ward per Healing Effectiveness I believe in HH tre...
Now I remember why no one uses these nodes, it's really a terrible choice; you have to pay far more than you get in return🤦♀️
I think only Paladin would consider trying them
alpine canopy
Why the mod ping?
We need immediate action on null portent! 
analog ingot
Shadow Beacon is kind of a weird item. Its a cool concept but just doesnt really feel like it works with the main unique thing (devouring orb). Speccing it for void eruption seems like the natural path but all the duration is reduced so much that you might as well just cast it right on the enemy and not even bother hoovering the orbs via ES. Speccing it for abyssal orbs or normal rifts doesnt really seem to benefit from moving them to the enemy, as they're ranged anyway.
I guess the best way would be to boost duration orbs, suck them all to an enemy with ES, then use abyssal echos with the node that can cast rifts from orbs
alpine canopy
I guess the best way would be to boost duration orbs, suck them all to an enemy ...
Yes this, also abyssal orbs works so you can move them along for clearing, them being ranged mainly means you just don't need to move them for boss fights
cerulean sorrel
Would Sentinel be the best class for me to play if I wanted to ease my way into empowered? Been having crazy issues with making my werebear work but wanted to take a break and try other classes
turbid dome
Shadow Beacon is kind of a weird item. Its a cool concept but just doesnt really...
I like it with the turret orbs
waxen nymph
Would Sentinel be the best class for me to play if I wanted to ease my way into ...
I can help you with your Werebear
Getting to Empowered is "easy" for every classes
cerulean sorrel
I can help you with your Werebear
Getting to Empowered is "easy" for every class...
I even tried swarmblade form to spice things up but it definitely felt like a diff playstyle, but yeah, I'm strugglin 🙈
waxen nymph
Go to lastepochtools.com/profile
Load your character
Share your character in #🐺┃primalist and ping me there
analog ingot
Yes this, also abyssal orbs works so you can move them along for clearing, them ...
Thats a good point. I'll prob try it after 1.2, knowing theres a bunch of changes for sentinel coming with it
Though I did also want to try out forge knight then
alpine canopy
Yeah, I will have a hard time picking between the three sentinel masteries in 1.2, they all have new/changed stuff I'll want to try 😂
haughty canopy
Yeah, I will have a hard time picking between the three sentinel masteries in 1....
either pally or void bonk for me lol
chilly wasp
hello i finally unlocked empowered monoliths and now I'm struggling.
I have a 84 rive void knight. I probably need to get better blessings (i only did only one boss clear for each monolith) and equipment, especially armor and weapons. resistances are overcapped at least.
Do i go back to curbstomp normal 90 monoliths to get better blessings and hoping for a lucky drops, or keep running empowered ones, while taking forever, dieing a lot and unable to do the stabilization events?
Or should i go do some arena? For dungeons i have no worthwhile equipment to slam together and in money i just have 1M.
What weapon/armor piece could help me if i do some ascend attempts?
here is the profile
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/aUnluckyEvent/character/DoorKnocksYou
forest kelp
Don't waste time with mono under 100c
waxen nymph
Hey again 👋
Alright there is a lot to say
- You dont have life on your Gear, 1.6k hp is nowhere good enough. Change some of your unique for Exalted with %Hp or Vitality
- Vitality gives you a lot of benefits > Hp, Flat Dmg for Rive, %More Melee Dmg since you are a VK
- You need Endurance and some Crit Mitigation, you also have too much resist. You can start Empowered with like 50%, thats good enough for a while
- Dmg wise you need some Flat Crit on your Weapons
Sorry I missed you had VR - I'll change some of your passives and Skills/Skill Trees , give me a minute
chilly wasp
~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgmNnE9A
uu smart, using healing hands as traversal to get rid of the shield rush and further enhance the damage with sigils... why i did not thought of that
ok i will try to get health, maybe i can craft something ring or amulet (the amulet is infuriating, it's 10 levels i'm searching for anything that can give a phys pen shard to reroll it but no luck).
I guess i should get vitality or flat health points right?
With weapons atm it's GRIM. It' has been several hours I'm trying to switch to a 2H weapons but no luck. I also tried to do a seal on both weapons and both time it just upgraded.
What stats should I prioritize on weapons? flat crit percentage and void damage points or void percentage? or just go for crit percentage and crit multiplier?
waxen nymph
For Weapon imo by order of importance
Flat Crit > AS > %Dmg/Crit Multi
Dont bother with your Amulet, the base is doing anything for you
You should look for either an Oracle/Astrology or a Bone Amulet or Gold
cobalt blade
Vladdd to the rescue 
waxen nymph
Santa Grole !!
chilly wasp
Dont bother with your Amulet, the base is doing anything for you
You should loo...
got too dependent of the "numbers go up" trope from the tooltip. Still have to learn a lot from the game and at low levels it's very forgiving
waxen nymph
Yes, going full dmg works until you hit the first real wall Empowered (and the 1st Hrbinger that comes with it)
cobalt blade
Not lagon? 
waxen nymph
Lag who ?
You mean Campaign Lagon ? The boss I havent done in years because you dont need to go that far in the campaign ?
waxen nymph
Yes, going full dmg works until you hit the first real wall Empowered (and the 1st Hrbinger that comes with it)
waxen nymph
It means you cant crit me
SWEET
chilly wasp
Not lagon? <:Bee:889980256331628564>
the void kight crushed both mahjasa, lagon (campaign and timeline) and the first harbringer. I also did not even know the harbringer appeared after last boss fight in normal monolith, i panicked a bit but then i discovered it was easier than the elder husk. Only now in empowered I'm getting my ass whooped
cobalt blade
the void kight crushed both mahjasa, lagon (campaign and timeline) and the first...
Ooo which timeline you did for harby? Age of Winter (Heorot)?
Yea, all alt char will spawn harby on the first lv 90 mono you go for and unlock emp mono upon killing it
waxen nymph
i discovered it was easier than the elder husk.
chilly wasp
i was the last ruin, husk of elder Gaspar. The husk was nerve wracking because one wrong position or move and I could get clipped. i was so happy to have beaten him at second attempt and then I got the female harbringer photobomb. Fortunately i could easily tank and leech anything she could do, so it was only a matter of patience
cobalt blade
Ahh my train of thoughts were off the rail... whoops 
forest kelp
Is this thing meant for Paladin? What builds can use it?
turbid dome
Is this thing meant for Paladin? What builds can use it?
you could use it on palladin, thats easier to use on Mage imo
forest kelp
My only mage is still at level 80; I don't seem to like this class very much
turbid dome
this class being paladin?
forest kelp
I'm still struggling with my VK erasing strike; I'm just trying to tweak the loot filter
cobalt blade
nemmy 
turbid dome
I'm still struggling with my VK erasing strike; I'm just trying to tweak the loo...
Link build?
forest kelp
I'm not sure if my next character will be a Paladin. I still have to stick with my VK character until he can operate at 1k corruption
turbid dome
I mean at that point go infinite es vk
Given the target for most builds should be like 400 corruption
crude matrixBOT
forest kelp
If only clearing echo in the monolith, it performs well above 1k1 corruption, as I tried PT with a friend and ran for quite a while. Fighting boss timelines slowly is a problem(660c), and my health is quite low to withstand some skills
turbid dome
@forest kelp why smelter's might?
turbid dome
Final Hour
fair
theres nothing glaringly wrong, I guess you need more %increased dmg tho
I guess get a better body armor base
forest kelp
Julra seems to have a grudge against me; almost all the good items for this build have been ruined by her🤦♀️
waxen nymph
Is this thing meant for Paladin? What builds can use it?
Could be nice for Lightning Smite but StormCarved is better imo
alpine canopy
Is this thing meant for Paladin? What builds can use it?
Rogue probably uses it more than anyone since they don't build int/att it makes it easier for them to balance. I used it on Reign of Winter back in the day, not sure if that build is still used much, and maybe usable on lightning chakram or some other rogue lightning build?
turbid dome
Rogue probably uses it more than anyone since they don't build int/att it makes ...
oh true I forgot about the rogue gaming
waxen nymph
Ro... What?
I don't have that character in my game
Maybe an expension or CT stuff... Dunno
alpine canopy
!rogue
heady boneBOT
!rogue
The Rogue has been available since Patch 0.8 on the fourth of December. Did she sneak by you? She's like that...
alpine canopy
I miss when the bot was still outdated and made some comment about the rogue not yet being released lol
turbid dome
I don't have that character in my game
Maybe an expension or CT stuff... Dunno
ah sorry its from the jewel of the desert expansion
cobalt blade
Julra seems to have a grudge against me; almost all the good items for this buil...
She just want her Epoch. Blame the Eternity Cache and Desire Sensor
waxen nymph
She just want her Epoch. Blame the Eternity Cache and *Desire Sensor*
Is it not time for you to go to bed?
cobalt blade
yes... its 2.19am. I just finish testing and finding a setting that satisfy me and not generate a bagilion size file
with Abby
rip my Eyes
first recording was 600mb for a 2:28min fight... like wth
waxen nymph
Go to bed, chop chop
cobalt blade
https://vimeo.com/1040090120 wander cleared it 4x my speed
forest kelp
Think positively; if you give this build to Kirra, it will probably take ten times the amount of time
forest kelp
Do Crushing Blows affect the amount of mana consumed while channeling?
turbid dome
Do Crushing Blows affect the amount of mana consumed while channeling?
no, mana cost =/= channel cost =/= mana consumed
for example, crushing blows only looks at the mana cost of 1 on warpath and not the 18 mana cost per second
it will not care about the mana consumed on time loop
it will care about anything that raises or lowers your mana cost
cobalt blade
If only World Splitter work on Warpath
Enemies only see my 🪓 
from miles away and not me
forest kelp
How many big skills consume a lot of mana besides Erasing Strike and Forge Strike, considering mana cost?
turbid dome
A lot of skills have ways to raise your mana cost, but your not gonna just get a huge more dmg multiplier for basically free
waxen nymph
Judgement, Erasing Strike, Forge Strike, Smelter Wrath
alpine canopy
Shield rush also, if you can stand to use it
and there's a few in the other classes, too, I'm just assuming sentinel stuff
waxen nymph
Shield Rush I can only recommend if you are playing offline
Even with macro it's awful online
chilly wasp
With the suggested passive respec and some craft I've managed to stabilize my rive knight survivability without destroying my dps. Next step is getting more upgrades. I have some spare ascendance runes, which piece of equipment can gamble? Armor to get titan heart? Any armor type as base will do? Or there are useful weapons that are not drop only?
waxen nymph
For Weapons you will most likely want a Apathy Maw that can only drop from Orobyss Shades
For Titan Heart that's a good idea once you swap to 2h and not DW. Any body armor will do
chilly wasp
For Weapons you will most likely want a Apathy Maw that can only drop from Oroby...
damn i forgot that the titan heart is DW specific. And for now i can barely handle base corruption, forget fighting the shades to increase corruption and make things even more difficult.
I'm checking other legendaries in other slots but all the interesting ones seem drop only. I guess it's back to the map to hunt for good exalts
waxen nymph
Titan Heart is for 2handers not DW
Also you can kill a shade, and lower the corruption right after
turbid dome
damn i forgot that the titan heart is DW specific. And for now i can barely hand...
There’s always darkstride boots
forest kelp
Speaking of which, it's frustrating. I had two pairs of exalted boots with +30ms and 16 vit, and I slammed them into my 2lp darkstride boots with perfect rolls. In the end, I just ended up with two pairs of boots legendary with +30ms😭
turbid dome
chilly wasp
There’s always darkstride boots
i know and i have the basic unique one, but i lose too much armor and vitality
turbid dome
i know and i have the basic unique one, but i lose too much armor and vitality
My thought was more keep making darkstrides with the runes then slap the boots into nemisus’s magic egg thing
cobalt blade
ouchie nemmy
forest kelp
I have one more like this with 1lp, but I'm not feeling very confident about it
haughty canopy
hmm got a titan heart... debating whether to start a bonk vk
forest kelp
When it's just for fun, it's done in one go; when it's for real, it leads to depression 🖕
cobalt blade
Desire sensor
haughty canopy
rngesus sees all knows all
alpine canopy
When it's just for fun, it's done in one go; when it's for real, it leads to dep...
This is why I try to avoid actually farming for anything too crazy
crimson crystal
playing javelin FG, struggling to find a fifth skill that'd grant me survivability and maybe some damage:
ring of shields ain't exactly good for it, sigils of hope does very little for the investment needed and I dislike volatile reversal on principle
picked up healing hands and went full-on just the healing parts, turns out that's a LOT of healing even at 0 attunement, 0 healing effectiveness
turbid dome
playing javelin FG, struggling to find a fifth skill that'd grant me survivabili...
healing hands is the goat
you can also turn it into a melee attack with the bottom right node
crimson crystal
see every time I saw anything about HH it was just for the melee or for the cast-on-smite parts, it's not really useful at all for this character because it's entirely specced around throwing damage
forest kelp
my ms 😭
glacial geyser
I wonder if I could equip a staff or maybe one of those 2h hammers that look like a staff and make a "void mage" lol or "cleric" instead of paladin... Basically try and turn sentinel into a caster
I know there's plenty of skills with the Spell tag
haughty canopy
void smite says hi
waxen nymph
Devouring Orb and Smite are here for you
turbid dome
I wonder if I could equip a staff or maybe one of those 2h hammers that look lik...
yes you can do this
void wizard gang
anomaly main damage skill gaming
glacial geyser
Can it be done with FG and paladin tho 🤔
turbid dome
yeah
healing hands can be a damage spell, smite, judgement has a spell part
the divine bolt things
forgeguard, no that lad has like no spell support unique to him
unless maybe a bleed smite build? but I think paladin would be better for that
but also void wizard lets you use Omividence
glacial geyser
Sounds awesome... I might roll a second sentinel haha
waxen nymph
but also void wizard lets you use Omividence
Makes me want to revisit my Void Smiter
Staff + Titan Heart should be much tankier than DW 😅
waxen nymph
Harry?
turbid dome
Void Knight: no I'm bald
waxen nymph
turbid dome
real
waxen nymph
Looking at Omnividence
I would loose the 48% More Dmg from Mad Spoon but get Inc Dmg instead and a bit more Flat
turbid dome
Spell void knight needs to make up a lot of increased damage
Cause your stat (vitality) gives flat damage and not increased damage
crude matrixBOT
haughty canopy
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BMWaa7eA some base level stuff
glacial geyser
Void Knight: no I'm bald
This made me laugh IRL 🤣
turbid dome
This made me laugh IRL 🤣
haughty canopy
how does my passive look for a void mage?
kinda an autobomber with self cast smites
though self cast smite makes me wanna put HH in there but no void conversion though
haughty canopy
isnt the leech on vk tree?
world eater
gotta rive with palarus until i get do
sigh
waxen nymph
isnt the leech on vk tree?
You you are going Crit and using Peak of the Mountain disable Leech on Crits
haughty canopy
ah
well can swap
helm isnt that impt
took it for the att bonus but i guess we can use other helms
t7 vit on any helm would be ok i guess
guess paranoia would work too since increase void dmg
but i posted mainly for the passive tree and skill tree.. might have to take lunge instead of echoes
waxen nymph
Honestly Leonine Helm is really hard to say no
Imo Sorrow and Steel is not great, very low value
And not taking Time Legion for the extra 10% Chance to Echoe is also not great
You shouldn't need Void Well and the node before.
I would see an Devotion Amulet for the Cast Speed
Sigils of Hope instead of Abyssal Echoes
Void Aegis is nice for a pt or 2
turbid dome
sorrow and steel is only ok if your doing like rive vk (and this goes away next update)
*ok until your in post campaign
forest kelp
Farmed Aberroth for 2 hours, he dropped 28 World Splitters but not a single one with 0.5% crit and >50 mana, so crazy 🤨
glacial geyser
If I want to do the mage route but as a paladin, is specializing in fire damage pretty much the only viable thing? Cuz I see sigils of hope can either boost fire or void damage, but not lightning
Was hoping to take order of Lagon and use the lightning node for javelin
But looks like other than those two skills, there's not much to go off of for a lightning build which makes the dark souls nerd in me sad lol
alpine canopy
If I want to do the mage route but as a paladin, is specializing in fire damage ...
You can do fire, lightning, or void. For lightning, pretty much all your damage is smite (and maybe jav) because it's the only lightning spell. Since lightning is a side element for sentinel, most of its support is in items - see the Devotion amulet, Tu'Rani's spear, Aurelis 1h sword, and Stormcarved Testament relic for the most notable lightning uniques.
turbid dome
I remember the electrify spear being fun
alpine canopy
I've run Tu'rani's both crit and DOT and it looks super cool, basically just tossing spears in the air and raining holy lightning on stuff. I think you can do self-cast smite with devotion and probably mad ladle, but I've never done it
turbid dome
Tho no healing hands on throwing attack is a little sad
alpine canopy
Yeh, actually needing leech and/or standing next to the enemies where your smites are popping off for recovery is not always ideal, but it wasn't too bad
turbid dome
Yee
tacit lion
If I want to build a melee physical build, which mastery/skill should i be building around?
forest kelp
If I want to build a melee physical build, which mastery/skill should i be build...
Primalist BM
The passive and skill system of the Sentinel does not support pure physical damage.
tacit lion
BM as in beastmaster? isnt that a minion build?
forest kelp
You can build for yourself or for your pet
tacit lion
oh really? Okay the character creation screen is deceptive. off to LET!
forest kelp
"You are the master of the wilds and the beasts that dwell within. The heart of the wild beats within you, its fury leading your way.
Passive Bonuses
+1 Companion Summon Limit
You and your minions deal 50% increased melee damage"
That's his introduction, a mastery with meat punches
tacit lion
wait, does every mastery have a key passive or something?
forest kelp
That's right, when you choose mastery, you are notified of the bonus you will receive
tacit lion
ahh, i feel silly lol never noticed that
teal mortar
wait, does every mastery have a key passive or something?
Some passives are super hard to notice, compared to +1 max companion
cough forge guard cough
waxen nymph
You get phys and fire res ... It good right
teal mortar
we're reaching copium levels previously considered impossible 😭
haughty canopy
@waxen nymphif we take sacrifice and atonement.. to use devotion damage boost
spam sigils to lower mana?
waxen nymph
Yup
haughty canopy
man getting to DO using palarus and rive is a pita
would not advise... stick with hammers or vc/es till you get devouring orb if you wanna be a voidywiz
turbid dome
You get phys and fire res ... It good right
Meanwhile void knight gets a flat 10% more damage (on average) and a scaling more damage
haughty canopy
You get phys and fire res ... It good right
fg?
haughty canopy
yah.. how come my void wizzie defaults to autobomber? lol
turbid dome
yah.. how come my void wizzie defaults to autobomber? lol
use turret Dorbs
haughty canopy
autobomber brain dead lol
turbid dome
it will be more braindead with one of the new things next update
@waxen nymph there was an auto cast dorb thing teased right?
alpine canopy
Yeah, a "dorb auto casts while you're moving" node
cobalt blade
Yea, i remember warpath dorb was discussed here right after the teaser
gusty abyss
yeah, the current smite warpath paladin with all the throwing business, but then as VK with dorb. Gonna be fun.
waxen nymph
With Shotgun?
haughty canopy
divine bolt on hh
waxen nymph
Oh
haughty canopy
might have to drop that divine bolt on pally passive i guess
waxen nymph
Problem is, either you get HH around Smite and then it rarely heals you so no Bolts.
Or you have HH centered on you and you kinda loose dmg
haughty canopy
well thats why palarus is there fo
but it will fall off sooner or later... unless i get a uber lp palarus
prolly no need homeward bound if hh is seraph blade i guess
still no mad spoon for my voidy wiz lol
haughty canopy
no my vk is autobomber direct smite
that hh on void smite is gonna HURT me alot lol
forest kelp
🤣
haughty canopy
yah
ember crane
Hi everyone, i'm starting LE and i would like to understand something. How is working the mana for spell like warpath. Actually i saw we have mana cost and channel cost what is the difference between this both ? Actually i was especting i could use this spell for 57 second with 57 mana but its actually not
turbid dome
Hi everyone, i'm starting LE and i would like to understand something. How is wo...
Mana cost is when you start it
Channel cost is while spinning
Warpath should be listing both
ember crane
Mana cost is when you start it
Channel cost is while spinning
So if i understand well for warpath with 57 mana and a channel cost of 16 and mana cost of 1 i should normaly be able to use this spell for 57-16 = 41 seconde but its actually not that
turbid dome
So if i understand well for warpath with 57 mana and a channel cost of 16 and ma...
So with 57 max mana
you consume 1 mana to start spinning
You have a channel cost of 18 mana per second
So for the first second it’s 57 - 1 - 18 + 8 =46 current mana
+8 is from your base mana regen
So it’s -10 mana per second
forest kelp
You -1 mana cost to start and maintain it with xx channeling cost
turbid dome
So with 57 max mana you can spin for 5-ish seconds
ember crane
Oh i see i'm an idiot thanks if i did understand well if i got 18 mana regen warpath would cost me nothing right ?
turbid dome
Oh i see i'm an idiot thanks if i did understand well if i got 18 mana regen war...
Yeah
It also has nodes to reduce its channel cost
ember crane
Well i understand now the information i found on internet was false because it say we can't regen mana when we are channeling
turbid dome
Well i understand now the information i found on internet was false because it s...
That used to be the case
But they changed that last update
ember crane
I didn't play before but i look more easy to play a build center on warpath
it look*
turbid dome
If your gonna use the internet, go use last epoch tools
It’s the best site for this game
ember crane
well i'm going to see it thanks 🙂
forest kelp
@cobalt blade This is the warpath zealot. If you need Wicked's leadership, please tag him
ember crane
Actualy i do like to understand math on this gametype. But obviously because i'm starting i will certainly not make a good build ahah
forest kelp
The in-game guide can help a little. You can also refer to the lastepochtool website for the database and other resource
teal mortar
Actualy i do like to understand math on this gametype. But obviously because i'm...
GO FOR YOUR OWN BUILD SPAGHETTI N MEATBALLS. DEW IT.
Otherwise it's like not playing at all
at least imo
cosmic dagger
Hey all. Haven’t played since launch. Is there a void cleave build that doesn’t use eternal eclipse?
Scepter/DoT stuff doesn’t count.
quiet hearth
It does count, it's just not what you want, and the answer is yes. Where is Engi when you need them?
cosmic dagger
Since I’m the one looking for the build, what I want would constitute exactly what counts and what doesn’t, no?
😅
quiet hearth
This is the internet, you think opinions matter here?! But nah Im just saying the sceptre is a legit build even disregarding the DOT, but there are also other builds Engi is the local VC enjoyer which is why I named them.
teal mortar
with how many multipliers void cleave has across multiple skills, I'm willing to bet an all exalted setup is still totally viable.
quiet hearth
Oh yeah, you really gotta try to mess up VC these days
cosmic dagger
Oh it looks like they changed mtx so you can use axe cosmetics on swords now. I didn’t like how eclipse looks and how we hold the 2h sword while running.
Seems like you can solve that issue with $$ now 😬
quiet hearth
I dont really have a problem with MTX, they are completely optional, though it is weird in this day and age when GD did it ages ago.
cosmic dagger
LOL there's still no 2h axe cosmetic. Also it looks like you can't cross use 2h sword/axe cosmetics.
I'd pay money to just have apathy's maw as a weapon skin on swords. Then I could play the game :satsified:
quiet hearth
I mean, is what it is really, everytime they put a new cosmetic up they get yelled at anyway
turbid dome
It does count, it's just not what you want, and the answer is yes. Where is Engi...
I was asleep
quiet hearth
such weakness
turbid dome
such weakness
Hey you stay up for 57 hours and see how sleep feels
quiet hearth
skill issue
turbid dome
skill issue
craggy hare
Anybody on?
quiet hearth
For real tho, hope you got some good sleep because that is NOT healthy, and yes some of us have no lives and are still on, whatchu need fam?
turbid dome
For real tho, hope you got some good sleep because that is NOT healthy, and yes ...
My neighbors threw a giant party (all night, after a triple shift day) then I had a day of traveling and couldn’t sleep
But now it is sleep time
See ya in like 15 hours
normal ember
Hello there! New player here. What would be the best sentinel subclass for a warpath build?
waxen nymph
I think rn Paladin performs a bit better
If you want to do Warpath and Minion, only FG can do that
forest kelp
Hello there! New player here. What would be the best sentinel subclass for a war...
@cobalt blade This is the warpath zealot. If you need Wicked's leadership, please tag him
cobalt blade
Pally do have more support for ailment builds and VK do better with echo-ing
thats just the passives in their own respective masteries
then there is uniques/equipment to look at 👀
also i am not a warpath master 
i just like to spinz to winz
normal ember
ah, well i'll be a pally with a 2H, that's ok :p
cobalt blade
haha
normal ember
hmm, the speed increase from Quicksilver Wind (3/3) is not noticeable at all... known bug?
cobalt blade
ah no
while spinning, we have reduced 20% movespeed
so that node, kinda be used to offset that
i think its the alt key on the hotbar when u hover over
there
also warpath love atk speedz
cuz it doubles attack rate
your spinz go brrrrr
definitely a fan of blademaster in the base sentinel tree
normal ember
ooh nice
cobalt blade
trade off is that your sentinel passive will be 30 for blademaster 5/5
normal ember
I think that's ok, the pally tree isn't that amazing from what i understand
but maybe i'm just dumb
i shred everything so far
level 30, 1400dps
cobalt blade
what kind of warpath build you have in mind?
normal ember
honestly, i was just disappointed by the lack of spin build in PoE2, so I tried LE just in case.. was pleasantly surprised it's accessible at level... 2 ? xD
i'm going in 100% blind
normal ember
i took the sentinel point where Rive gives me mana and health back
it's a bit silly how fast my mana goes up when i'm out
cobalt blade
heh
there is an affix that amplifies that on helm
and also a passive time and faith in sentinel tree
but uhh
rive and warpath doesnt really go well tgt
unless u play one specific build
normal ember
right.. but then what do i do when I'm oom?
cobalt blade
if u get 2 points into unchained, and 1 point into reckless spin.. you wont spend mana while spinning
oom?
cobalt blade
hmm... i have never used dark nexus cuz its too point taxing but thats because i go top right of the path as VK
i dont see many builds use dark nexus yet
cobalt blade
heh
you get big spinz from warrior's fury
but thats pseudo going into the trap build i am playing
normal ember
what is warrior fury?
cobalt blade
and its bad if u dont have mana to sustain it
ramping spinz
go big
but your mana goes out like brr
normal ember
ah, back to the oom problem 😄
cobalt blade
have to find ways to recover the mana
either with the rive with mana gain
or/and
volatile reversal
normal ember
i'm very happy to know there are multiple spin builds available
cobalt blade
normal ember
maybe i'll do 1 or 2 to end game, do a pause, and return later to test another 1 or 2
cobalt blade
there is also the throwing axe smite build with warpath
normal ember
you said earlier VK works better for 2H, pally otherwise... so for pally, are we talking sword and board or dual wield?
cobalt blade
both works for pally but 1h with a shield have a few good nodes from pally passives
with rather minimal points needed
btw, i only know abit more about melee builds
if u wanna play like caster/spell sentinel
@turbid dome @waxen nymph and Draven knows better
this node on warpath for spell build is pretty huge
but uhh idk how it synergize with any spell build cuz i've never played it heh
normal ember
i'll check the other classes later 🙂
waxen nymph
For Paly Warpath you want a Sceptre and a Sword and deal dmg with Fire Smite
gusty abyss
This is the busted node on warpath for a spell centered build
forest kelp
I have a few Naal's Tooth rolls that are excellent with 2LP, but I'm scared of Julra
She just destroyed my pair of rings a few dozen minutes ago
turbid dome
you said earlier VK works better for 2H, pally otherwise... so for pally, are we...
Basically there’s a bunch of different flavors of warpath
pally spell trigger
- easy healing cause it’s Paladin
- only needs vortex charm and 2 idols
- pally has spell + shield support
- shields help you not die a lot
vk spell trigger
- easy leech
- echos
- vitality stacking (flat dmg + max health)
- warpath can trigger multiple spells
- also wants vortex charm + two idols
- next patch will add dorbs to this spell list
cleave spin
- more a for fun build
- void cleave is a big crit in this
- can actually use warriors fury since you only spin for 3 seconds
- I tried this on forge guard with fire void cleave
and a bunch more, these are just the 3 I’ve done recently
forest kelp
3lp siphon of anguish with high roll
turbid dome
Tbh I’m probably going to start next cycle on a spell trigger warpath void knight
gusty abyss
Tbh I’m probably going to start next cycle on a spell trigger warpath void knigh...
Really curious if they will nerf anything, I am personally expecting Cyclone of War fire pen to be reduced again and palarus to get the HH treatment, being unable to proc from warpath.
turbid dome
This is the busted node on warpath for a spell centered build
That node + forgotten knight sword is a no brainer on spell warpath vk, especially cause you can offhand it
turbid dome
Really curious if they will nerf anything, I am personally expecting Cyclone of ...
Probably
gusty abyss
Then again, if they do that, they must also cap warriors fury, so who knows, maybe its fine?
turbid dome
Tbh the only problem with spell trigger warpath vk is that you want nodes in 4 corners 
turbid dome
Needs more void gang
turbid dome
Man I love how warpath has like 50 builds once you consider sub versions of each build
turbid dome
Imagine Dorb fire conversion
Real
gusty abyss
Also, there is no way this talent survives
turbid dome
1 point for
20% increased crit chance on spells
20% increased throwing crit chance
+10% multi with lightning skills
gusty abyss
20% 😉
then again, mage still has 3% spell crit per int on literally the first row...
turbid dome
I mean it seems fine to me
It is only 40% on a specific build and a half node on any other
Plus it locks you into lightning
If you want full value
gusty abyss
yeah, but you have to look at it from the perspective of available base crit
25% base crit smite, that 200% is literally 50% actualy crit chance
turbid dome
Yea
gusty abyss
ofc, they could also change cyclone of wars base crit to melee crit
turbid dome
Plz no
That’s like the one way I get flat crit on void sub spells
Other than scorn sceptre
gusty abyss
I mean, compare smites base crit node, same 10% with a downside vs 10% for literally everything xD
gusty abyss
Does it though, can still have instant VC and Anomaly, we will get Dorb, VR is already instant can triger AE
Then again, maybe vr won't be instant anymore xD
turbid dome
Yea
gusty abyss
still almost entire VK skill set is available for warpath
turbid dome
more so stacking that with a scorn scetre so my insta cast time wave gets a lil silly
gusty abyss
yeah, if only scorn sceptres where farmable for CoF. At least, I have not been able to get a viable one with void or spell damage.
And I have farmed up this amulet trough 7 failed slams. .55% drop rate according to LE tools xD
I mean, I finally get one just now, this it what it turned into:
I mean, this is all my scorn scepres i have found minus 1, vs my 3lp palarus, minus 1.
turbid dome
lol I have a page like that for omnividences
I might be the reason the market doesn't have many of them sometimes
gusty abyss
I have double the amount of scorn sceptres in 3 lp palarus....
not 1lp or 2lp, 3lp...
turbid dome
thus is the fate of a nemesus only item
I love void knight wizard, but its just not realistic to build it without the market
gusty abyss
Yeah, VK wizzard with scorn sceptre looks great, I just can't find one as CoF. So must be a trade only thing 😦
turbid dome
Yeah, VK wizzard with scorn sceptre looks great, I just can't find one as CoF. S...
Time wave goes brrr
gusty abyss
Yeah, instant anomaly with time wave and mark of rod looks very good for burst on spin 2 win VK next patch
If anything, its gonna be really hard to decide which skills to use, instead of which mediocre skill to "fill" with
gusty abyss
there was some CDRS threshold passive teased right?
turbid dome
I hope so
you can already get like 100% CDRS from gear
still sad tho that scorn sceptre + blade of the forgotten knight out powers omnividence
gusty abyss
Well, a lot of weapon related passives, no staff support. VC restricted to 2h, but not staff.
Can you imagine if we got a way to get Void Essence on hit?
turbid dome
Can you imagine if we got a way to get Void Essence on hit?
erasing strike on hit and I guess vengeance
curious if they increased vengeance's void essence gain rate
gusty abyss
I meant generic, like 5% on hit on a new unique
Imagine this: 1% chance on hit to gain warrior shrine effect for 5s. So broken, lol.
gusty abyss
Dude, smite warpath has 13+ hits per second, and it doubles axe throw from vortex, fire pen from cyclone of war, spell damage, casts smite, doubles movement speed. It is the most busted shrine
turbid dome
gusty abyss
Mine only has 36% chance for smite :\
forest kelp
whatcha gonna slam onto that
gusty abyss
lightning damage? 😮
forest kelp
Hard to change
gusty abyss
Well, if you got 2 4lp's then sure. I would find a better one though. But that is me (:
forest kelp
I'm still not confident enough to remove it
forest kelp
Well, if you got 2 4lp's then sure. I would find a better one though. But that i...
Sure x2 form lightless arbor
I still haven't tried if this rogue's relic can be used on a unique sentinel
turbid dome
theres no classic specific affixes so I think it would work
gusty abyss
Yeah I second that
turbid dome
hell even the rouge/sentinel shared affix is bugged so if you add it to any item it looses the rouge/sentinel requirement
unless that got fixed
alpine canopy
I don't think you can slam it
turbid dome
darn
alpine canopy
pretty sure the class requirement check doesn't look at just the affixes, even though those are what would matter, but no risk of trying since the cache will just tell you yes or no
haughty canopy
hmm anyone played with void hammers?
alpine canopy
Like, hammer throw disintegrating aura stuff? Yeah, others have messed with that more than I have, but people exist
alpine canopy
Oh, smite, yeah definitely nearly all variations of proccing smite have been played. Orbiting hammers is or has been popular, they call it "hammerdin" and it can be a smite build.
haughty canopy
would need t7 -mana throw i guess
alpine canopy
I think you only need high tier -mana for devotion variants which wouldn't be void, but it has been a while since I've done one
turbid dome
I did void aura hammers with that node that turns the orbits/chains/other things into other stats
alpine canopy
I did void aura hammers with that node that turns the orbits/chains/other things...
Interesting... how did that turn out?
turbid dome
Interesting... how did that turn out?
Ok, the idea was the aura was a bonus to help clear chaff
Then go into crit for hammers and smite
I don’t remember if the auras can shotgun
alpine canopy
Makes sense, I was wondering partly because I think the lil void auras are neat and partly because all the converted stats don't apply to the auras
turbid dome
Yeah
alpine canopy
Yeah they do shotgun, at least definitely can when the hammers can (which spiraling innately enables)
I assume they always do though
turbid dome
Doesn’t hammer throw extra projectiles innately throw in a horizontal line compared to you
alpine canopy
The +100 void to your next throwing attack on VC is neat for the void auras, though it is a little tough to make great use of
turbid dome
It’s been a minute since I did this
alpine canopy
Doesn’t hammer throw extra projectiles innately throw in a horizontal line compa...
Yeah, but no shotgunning - just a hit out and a hit on return (though you can't get extra projectiles without disabling the return bit)
turbid dome
Yeah, but no shotgunning - just a hit out and a hit on return (though you can't ...
That’s what I was remembering
It makes the auras a nice bonus for chaff clearing with the funny convert nodes node
Given they spread out well in whichever way your throwing
Plus there’s the idgaf about mana node behind the nodes node
also is the nodes node getting changed to a bigger node visually
alpine canopy
nodes node 😂
alpine canopy
imo that's a lot of what makes it funny
forest kelp
damn, need 50+ mana more
craggy hare
Yo @forest kelp can I join you?
forest kelp
Yo <@1077654874742861834> can I join you?
It's peak time, and my internet is unstable, so I won't play co-op during this period
craggy hare
Ok
forest kelp
Grr, the roll is too low 🤨
haughty canopy
hmm worth building future strikes?
gusty abyss
Even the anomaly future strike nodes dont work on the passive tree future strike node
turbid dome
hmm worth building future strikes?
theres 3 nodes in the game that are the entire support for future strike
- passive tree, 10 points for 100% chance on hit
- anomaly node that makes anomaly inflict one stack of future strike
- the next node that give sup to 400% void pen for future strike that is inflicted by anomaly
anomaly's reset dot timer thing also does nothing for future strike expect make it take longer for it to do any damage
turbid dome
I still want something for time rot called military time -> can stack it 24 times
haughty canopy
nah thats future strike... hurry up and wait
lol
you apply all the fs stacks only to wait
buahaha
turbid dome
if putting 10 points into the passive tree node converted all bleed chance to future strike chance it would work great
waxen nymph
Only way to use Future Strike is to get an 8th ailment for your Mad Spoon
haughty canopy
eh? ;p
turbid dome
I could maybe lie to myself if time wave on anomaly applied future strike from anomaly's tree
turbid dome
forest kelp
Healing hand rune bolt look cool
forest kelp
Wondering if it works well with the boss at 1k Corruption
turbid dome
yay ward
forest kelp
I had a dream of wielding dual swords when creating my first sentinel character, but life's twists and turns forced him to wield a two-handed weapon instead
forest kelp
I started playing in mid-July this year, when everyone had already received gifts from the developers
turbid dome
give vk an upgrade to gladiator that lets him use two axes
turbid dome
shield bash vk gaming
forest kelp
I don't really like shield bash, even though it can help my FG character perform at 1k
haughty canopy
bleeds all aronf at the lower lvls until you get to vc/es
forest kelp
And I also hate those spinning hammers
fallow lark
Shield bash and bam… on top . Couldnz move anymore and town portal is somewhere but not near if i cast it
But its a Safepoint 😄
turbid dome
tawdry lion
Has there been any discussion about Forge Guard vs Beast Master in terms of performance and fun?
I have a necromancer already and was interested in another pet class
alpine canopy
Has there been any discussion about Forge Guard vs Beast Master in terms of perf...
In terms of another minion class, beastmaster is generally better and has more options than forge guard. In April, forge guard (and sentinel in general) should be getting some tweaks and we'll see how it goes.
oak ferry
I really can't wait to play some VK on April 
turbid dome
oak ferry
Rive+smite+devouring orb on a single build sounds hella fun
turbid dome
Warpath triggering even more void spells
oak ferry
I just want my void tag on rive and I'm a happy man
turbid dome
Void 👍
oak ferry
Void 
turbid dome
I wonder if there’s any chance for a future strike buff
And by buff I mean support beyond 3 nodes
oak ferry
XD
turbid dome
Like put a threshold bonus at 10 points in the thing for it on the passive tree that converts your bleed chance to future strike chance
forest kelp
Does increased elemental damage include melee damage?
alpine canopy
I wonder if there’s any chance for a future strike buff
I'll give it the same odds as 4 LP maw
alpine canopy
Does increased elemental damage include melee damage?
If the melee damage is fire, cold, or lightning melee damage yes
waxen nymph
Does increased elemental damage include melee damage?
Someone looking at Lacerate from Rive 👀
waxen nymph
Like put a threshold bonus at 10 points in the thing for it on the passive tree ...
3% More Dmg per Vitality
forest kelp
🦎
turbid dome
3% More Dmg per Vitality
craggy hare
Anybody on?
forest kelp
Sleep soon
teal mortar
Like put a threshold bonus at 10 points in the thing for it on the passive tree ...
A bunch of niche stuff can use several more support nodes in this game. 😭 But maybe next patch we will get more goodies for void rift and summon wolves instead.
And stone cold nothing for the niche stuff 😭
turbid dome
A bunch of niche stuff can use several more support nodes in this game. 😭 But m...
More smite swords
waxen nymph
We don't need more Smite Swords or Wolves stuffs. Imo
Scorpions, Void Rift, Sabertooth, Summon Bear, Future Strike do need some love imo
turbid dome
We don't need more Smite Swords or Wolves stuffs. Imo
More smite swords was more of a joke
teal mortar
All of this can be conveniently solved by adding a dating sim segment to the game tbh
All that remains is to add a femboy character. Hmm, yes, quite genius.
turbid dome
I mean there’s the friendly tree Easter egg
keen radish
I'm entirely clueless
Through a few steps you can take a seedling from the spriggan in the lightless arbour dungeon and plant it in the end of time town where she will eventually grow and you can talk to her there
There should be a walkthrough on YouTube or something
teal mortar
WHAT
I NEED TO DO THAT ASAP
Respect to the ppl finding that out themselves. I wouldn't have noticed in ten years
waxen nymph
It's much much much easier to do offline
rich escarp
Is there anyone that would like to help me with which gear i should change and into what.
crude matrixBOT
waxen nymph
You have way too little hp
No hp on gloves (thoses are garbage BTW), helm, belt
You Relic is meh at best
Is that supposed to be a Rive build or Warpath build?
Quicksilver Ring > not so good now, get a better base and Hp
rich escarp
You have way too little hp
Yeah well my issue is what exactly am i looking for
rich escarp
Like are these gloves good?
teal mortar
Wait, what's the point of rive in this build if we aren't taking Time and Faith?
rich escarp
okey thank you
rich escarp
You Relic is meh at best
Which relics are good? Im doing a warpath but havent got enough points to get sigil of hope yet.
How much hp is enough? Im at 2000 hp right now
turbid dome
How much hp is enough? Im at 2000 hp right now
2k is like the minimum for monos imo
rich escarp
okey, ill have to get some more then ^^
turbid dome
It’s ok to be at less hp when entering monos (as the first mono is easier that the last bit of the campaign) and use that to get some better gear
The fastest way to boost your health would be body armor + helmet with vitality/flat health/%increased health
With one of those being exalted (T6 or T7 affixes, drop only)
rich escarp
okey, ill look at market and see if i can find one good
subtle pollen
Warpath has a node Apocalypse Whirl which converts its base damage from physical to void. It says it scales with increases to void dmg but not increases to phys dmg. So does that mean with that node, my physical damage on gear is ignored when using warpath and I only deal damage based on void damage? And if so is it worth it to take the node? I wanted a void warpath build basically
turbid dome
Warpath has a node Apocalypse Whirl which converts its base damage from physical...
So converting means the implicit damage from your weapon is now void (the number at the top that just says like +40 melee dmg)
A weapon with increased physical damage on it will not effect this damage because now it’s void damage
If you have like +20 melee physical damage (affix) on a weapon then that would still be physical damage so your warpath would do both physical and void damage
If your a void knight 100% take it as it makes it a void warpath
subtle pollen
So converting means the implicit damage from your weapon is now void (the number...
So if I understand it correctly. Let’s say an axe has implicit +23 Melee Damage. That’s now void right? And then I’m looking for suffixes that increase void damage.
turbid dome
So if I understand it correctly. Let’s say an axe has implicit +23 Melee Damage....
Yea
subtle pollen
Awesome thanks a lot. Really appreciate the help.
turbid dome
But said implicit dmg would still be physical on your rive skill
subtle pollen
Got it. I’ll have fun with this! xD
turbid dome
quiet hearth
Engi, did you sleep yet?
turbid dome
Engi, did you sleep yet?
today? no
turbid dome
why would I go to sleep today? its only 9 pm
cobalt blade
What is the void powered by? Triple A batteries?
turbid dome
What is the void powered by? Triple A batteries?
cans of soup
cobalt blade
Must taste purple. How are you not ded Engi
Also Vladd shown me his dorb smite hh char
And avalanche dud
Pretty cool
gusty abyss
RIP, found gloves with r1 life to Ward and t7 str, but died just before picking them up T_T
forest kelp
Try again
forest kelp
Oh, Paladin warpath is a spell damage build
gusty abyss
Well, I would go and say it is a triggered smite build.
forest kelp
I should have had a pair of Darkstride with 30 ms and 16 vit, but even with two chances, I still didn't succeed
gusty abyss
Yeah 2 specific affixes is only a 1/6
icy raptor
Why is Sigil's Word of power not activated when Sigil is summoned by Orian's Sun Seal ? It seems to work on direct cast though.
sturdy quest
hi whats the strongest melee build right now? void knight or EQ beastmaster?
waxen nymph
Why is Sigil's Word of power not activated when Sigil is summoned by Orian's Sun...
Because it requires a direct cast (I believe it's worded poorly on the node)
icy raptor
Because it requires a direct cast (I believe it's worded poorly on the node)
Yeah it's not specified. Thanks for the answer and happy new year !
alpine canopy
Well, I would go and say it is a triggered smite build.
Nah, gotta slap in flame burst for sure
alpine canopy
Oh, Paladin warpath is a spell damage build<:FrightenedGroleWrongDirection:69249...
You can also run it as ignite or bleed. imo bleed is the best option in general for pally warpath.
gusty abyss
Nah, gotta slap in flame burst for sure
Oh for sure, but it hasn't procced on anything but bosses for me since the skeleton event ended.
For comparison, after applying all skill mods:
- Smite scales at 14.25 per point of spell damage
- Flam Burst scales at 10.5 per point of spell damage
- Smite is triggered 6.6 times per second
- Flame Burst is triggered 0.36 times per second
fluid arrow
hi so im doing void knight and i wanna know if the rive passive weapon specialist counts for two handed swords since it says swords for more damage
sorry i worded that wrong, my question is Does weapon specalist work with two handed swords since it just says swords
turbid dome
sorry i worded that wrong, my question is Does weapon specalist work with two ha...
yes it works
sturdy quest
whats the best void knight buiild right now
waxen nymph
@shell tendon
- Gives very low dmg and very expensive (in term of passives pts)
- Vitality is good. It gives Hp, 2 types of resistances and since you are a VK More Melee Dmg and Flat Spell Dmg
- That node is good because Hp is nice. Also reduces the CD of your moving Skills (Void Cleave and Lunge). Mobility ! Yay !
- Hp and Res ❤️ We love it
- Str (Armor and Dmg for Warpath+ Void Cleave) and Hp ❤️
- Vitality and Increased Hp !!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
- Echoes Chance = Extra Dmg 💪
- Vitality again !!!
- This works only when you have kill recently so useless in boss fight and the value is not really high
- This is a very weak ailment that does nothing for you at all
- Kill Threshold can be nice but I feel like thoses pts can be spend elsewhere
shell tendon
how about this one? I saw someone removing it in the build, but I feel like I really need mana for the Spin
waxen nymph
Sentinel Passive trees are quite old and there are a few traps to avoid aswell as some nodes that are super strong
You should be able to fix Warpath mana cost by itself
Or even go
shell tendon
my problem with Warpath is that while I spin my mana is fine, but then Abyssal Echoes start proccing and they eat away my mana
I have this:
now it's fine, I can spin and Abyssal Echoes for a while
waxen nymph
I am personnaly not a big fan of AE with Warpath
Once every 5 sec is imo too low
shell tendon
dem, wasted
waxen nymph
I dont want to changes your skills because I dont want to change your build too much
You came up with it, its yours but there are some things that will prevent you to go higher with it
I dont want to call them mistakes
Experiments is a better word
gusty abyss
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/skyqula/character/Voidwinter
I run AE on my warpath VK (:
waxen nymph
You want/need to focus on one type of Dmg
Spell or Melee
gusty abyss
Though its spell focussed, to be fair
waxen nymph
You are kinda half half
shell tendon
My idea is this:
Devouring Orb is a buff on myself for some +void damage and mana
Then I spin
If I spin for 5sec+ Abyssal Echoes proc
After I spin for 2sec+ my Void Cleave gets a bit of a damage boost (but lately I haven't been using it at all)
I'm new to arpg and to Last Epoch
waxen nymph
Thats okay
shell tendon
Also my whole build leans into Time Rot too
waxen nymph
I just dont want you to feel like you have no freedom
shell tendon
I feel like there's too much freedom and building blocks to play with that I end up with a mess every time
(you should see my other builds x-x)
ahaha
waxen nymph
Unfortunately Sentinel is an old class and the newest shiny good design choices EHG had made lately hasnt reach him yet
Lets start simple
You like Spin ?
shell tendon
yeah
waxen nymph
You want Melee Dmg or Spell Dmg ?
(Melee is easier to start with but nothing is impossible)
shell tendon
I feel like there's too much freedom and building blocks to play with that I end...
Also at the same time sometimes I think of a build in my head, but when I go and try to make it - some passives or skills don't even exist in the game and my build cannot be finished
shell tendon
You want Melee Dmg or Spell Dmg ?
Melee/Void
waxen nymph
Good
shell tendon
my idea for this Void Knight was to:
- Spin
- Void damage
- Time Rot on enemies
- Void stuff ticks on them and they die (tbh I didn't know void was a dot and I imagined it would just deal more chunks of damage or smth, like small bursts)
- While I spin, I activate Skill2, which then also can activate Skill3
waxen nymph
Devoring Orb is not cut for that > OUT
AE you want its utility > Armor Shred (if you want to keep it)
Void Cleave > Hum
Ill propose you 3 skills
Anomaly > Void Bubble is good
Volatile Reversal > a ton of utility but some people dont like the rewind part
Sigils of Hope > Good dmg support, only require a unique ring and you dont even need to press it
shell tendon
I actually had Volatile Reversal before respeccing it into Devouring Orb
it was like uh:
waxen nymph
Its an acquired taste ^^
Unfortunately it gives a lot of Dmg, Movement Speed and Attack Speed
shell tendon
it was like uh:
smth like this
the idea was to cast it to gain a lot of buffs
and also to get back some mana / heal up some HP
waxen nymph
If you do it properly you get 2.368 times your dmg on a short window
shell tendon
nice ><
waxen nymph
shell tendon
ok I guess I go back and respec to it again
shell tendon
oh huh
ok, interesting
I'll try that one out
hm, I think I can also remove Void Cleave from my build tbh
I don't really use it much
waxen nymph
- You create a rift where you start from and where you end up. The rift is a spell that hit.
- The hit from the rift now apply a stacking debuff that makes mobs take 30% More Dmg. So if you tp on the spot and hit a mob with both rift thats 60% More Dmg
- You deal 4% More Dmg per stack of Time Rot (max 12) on the enemy. Thats 48% More Dmg. 1.60 x 1.48 = 2.368
shell tendon
would you say I should go for Anomaly or Sigils in place of Void Cleave?
waxen nymph
I like Anomaly
shell tendon
I don't like the part where vanilla Anomaly yeets away the mobs
waxen nymph
But maybe the mana situation will start to become a bit wild
Either that or you can numlock it
shell tendon
numlock?
waxen nymph
Do you have a keyboard with a numpad ?
shell tendon
I don't
waxen nymph
Nevermind then ^^
forest kelp
I don't like auto cast like in poe 🤨
shell tendon
how about this one? I saw someone removing it in the build, but I feel like I re...
ah wait, it was you
waxen nymph
It was me yeah
shell tendon
@waxen nymph
Ok, I put in Sigils and Anomaly (Anomaly was copied from yours 1:1) and also redid the Passives:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJn7Y2xQ
crude matrixBOT
shell tendon
For now going to stick with the mana node here cause I really lack mana rn
If I get better gear and have no mana problems - I'll remove those points and put them elsewhere
Paladin tree for Sigils I feel like I could only go for these ones here
The buff itself would be smth like this I guess?
waxen nymph
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Ok, I put in Sigils and Anomaly (Anomaly was copied from ...
Meditation in Sigils does nothing. Void Sigils don't regen life anymore
shell tendon
ah, right
shell tendon
Meditation in Sigils does nothing. Void Sigils don't regen life anymore
this then?
for the mob packs
waxen nymph
To make Sigils even easier you can look for a Unique Ring
shell tendon
my supreme spin bar now
hm, makes me wonder now if my Warpath, Lunge and Abyssal Echoes are built "correctly" now ....
shell tendon
To make Sigils even easier you can look for a Unique Ring
ic
forest kelp
I have a few rings with 3lp, but unfortunately, they are like phantom grips and all have terrible rolls
forest kelp
can be upgraded to legendary later; this ring drops quite often
shell tendon
I meant more like, is it ok to equip it now in place of an Exalted?
or would I lose too much on my stats
forest kelp
Try equipping it; if it doesn't work, you can swap back
shell tendon
ye ok it seems alright
shell tendon
right click?
waxen nymph
shell tendon
ah, the keybind?
cobalt blade
gusty abyss
spin to win without a source of swiftness?
waxen nymph
We are getting there
shell tendon
ms will come
I just learned that I need to build resistances, HP and endurance in this game today
gusty abyss
I see people go crazy over red rings, mean while I just want 3lp crab ring ^^
shell tendon
Cleared the next Mono too!! ❤️ @waxen nymph
this one
it had "+11% to all resistances" which I gladly took
forest kelp
I only use the red ring for my spellblade character because he can utilize nearly all the affixes
forest kelp
it had "+11% to all resistances" which I gladly took
20% for empower mono 100c
forest kelp
If you already have them with another character, you can find an NPC and get it at min value if not found
gusty abyss
Inspired by by the earlier discussion, gonna try this when I find a character to delete xD
forest kelp
I created a new Sentinel character on 1/1/2025, but I haven't decided on a build for him yet. My Easing Strike build is stuck and capped at 900c
gusty abyss
Every time I created a diffferent class, I end up creating a new sentinal after ^^
waxen nymph
I created a new Sentinel character on 1/1/2025, but I haven't decided on a build...
Self cast Fire Smite/HH?
Does it need to be good?
Or are you willing to explore the hidden path?
forest kelp
I haven't tried all the popular builds yet; exploring new paths comes afterward
My journey with LE has been nearly five months, and I am quite a slow player
waxen nymph
What have you played on Sentinel? Beside Erasing Strike
forest kelp
FG with Vengeance+minion 😆
waxen nymph
Oof
gusty abyss
Then surely fire smite with warpath should be tried!
Mmm, or void smite. Reminds me, gotta try that as lightning
Have warpath cost no mana while channeling, have no increased regen, pair it with culnivar to delete all mana, stack mana with devotions spell damage per missing mana.
waxen nymph
I wonder how it would interact
gusty abyss
I am more wondering if it would beat str stacking with palarus
Could ofcourse do both (:
gusty abyss
yeah, problem is defense. If we don't get strength, we don't get a good amount of armour. Cant get by with ~2600 health then.
waxen nymph
True
Attunement defense suck
I believe we will get smth for it in 1.2
Iirc one of the teaser
gusty abyss
In theory this, but 20 points deep.......
mage with their int and spell crit per int on first row, droooool
waxen nymph
I was thinking of smth else
waxen nymph
mage with their int and spell crit per int on first row, droooool
We are Sentinel, we play with pebbles and sticks. While Mages are in a tank
gusty abyss
https://imgur.com/a/364ZYJx
Not entirely pebles and sticks
With VR I think I was at around 40s Aberroth kill time
Sure, 40s stick vs a tank 1shot
waxen nymph
It takes you 40s with an insane investment
With half of that time invested a mage will do faster
Not a mage, a Sorc
gusty abyss
Yeah 😦
waxen nymph
Or a Falconer
waxen nymph
Yup
alpine canopy
Smelter's Wrath could also... but sentinel is not allowed to do that, so that one was fixed
fluid arrow
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ so sometimes i make my own builds this is what i came up with, a lightning javalin throw paladin with my own twist aint sure how good this is yet
turbid dome
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ so sometimes i make my own builds this i...
you gotta hit this button to save and share your build, that link just brings people to an empty planner
fluid arrow
Damn I'll do that again later in the afternoon
silent holly
crude matrixBOT
silent holly
jw would a leviathan carver with t7 +melee phys and t5 armour shred make this build better or worse?
like does lc make up for its reduced attack speed?
waxen nymph
VK problem : t7 Hybrid health gives me less hp than t7 Inc hp
waxen nymph
like does lc make up for its reduced attack speed?
On a Rive build I want to say no
silent holly
really??
i thought the doubled stats on 2h was like the only thing that would make it viable
silent holly
i would try it but i dont wanna spend all my gold on 2lp and exalted just to slam and then it end up being worse
waxen nymph
Because it will feel slow
silent holly
it just seems like such a shit unique
waxen nymph
You want a Big Bonk for it imo
silent holly
like a t7 melee phys exalted is just better than it
waxen nymph
The Pen is kinda nice but doesnt make up for the really slower AS
turbid dome
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqjbWlRB
this is the most balanced between all 4 sentinel trees I think I've ever seen a build
silent holly
lmaoo
i specced pala for the 100% phys dmg mastery bonus and holy aura
but paladin tree is quite shit for the build
turbid dome
pure phys is weirdly bad on sentinel
if your not looking to bleed
not getting to your mastery's %increased health hurts tho
I've shifted passive points around to see what needed to be moved to get to reverence in paladin. It basically was drop a lot of points from void knight and cover leech with a melee dmg leeched glove mod (T5 gives more than the 5 points in world eater gave)
crude matrixBOT
turbid dome
they had leech from the VK tree so I assumed they wanted it
turbid dome
I do think a pure phys vk would do this better
at least until the void conversion gets added in april
silent holly
im not looking for pure optimization
i just wanted a phys dmg sentinel
its sad there isnt much support for it but im just seeing how far i can take it
what makes a pure phys vk better?
Also yeah I had the build as tons of leech and slowly changed it over time so I think the leech stuff is just things I forgot to switch
I'll change it to get reverence cos ik what you mean it is really good, I think i was just overspending in the vk tree for the crit multi
If I do go fully out of leech is it worth replacing siphon? And if so would I replace with an exalted or different unique
Like I'd only really have it for doom and the movespeed atp
turbid dome
what makes a pure phys vk better?
echos
rive gets double echo chance
so its 80% chance to do double damage
silent holly
Well my paladins lvl 98 and I don't have a vk so it'll have to do for now lol
I assume echos share ur crit chance and multi, they aren't like minions
Like vengeance riposte
turbid dome
I assume echos share ur crit chance and multi, they aren't like minions
they share all your stats, however they don't crit if you crit, they have their own crit roll
also stuff like void cleave making your next erasing strike a crit doesn't apply to them
silent holly
Good to know
turbid dome
now also void rive vk is mostly better than pure phys, given theres weapon master and VK already wants to stack vitality
silent holly
Yeah ikik
turbid dome
the main advantage to pure phys is that its less restrictive on items so you can do mixed builds
silent holly
Pure physical sucks ass but I've always wanted to do it
Eventually I'll do a pure void rive when conversion comes out
For vk ofc
silent holly
Yeah but I got other chars I'm doing stuff w
turbid dome
real
silent holly
Gotta hold off on starting shiny new ones lol
turbid dome
if you haven't I would reccomend playing a warlock and a falconer before april given their most likely getting nerfed
silent holly
Hm I tend to avoid meta but I was eyeing up warlock
I like the Chthonic fissure chaos bolts stuff
turbid dome
there is also wizard vk
is it dumb and you cant be a wizard till like level 30, sure
but also +200 flat dmg to your spells
give us regular void spell dmg from vitality for smite
I can be trusted with that
waxen nymph
I know it's nothing new but I just released the 5pts Threshold
Maybe if DOrb is Reworked and we get decent usable More Dmg for the Rift we can do smth with it
haughty canopy
I like the Chthonic fissure chaos bolts stuff
uh.. Cthonic fissure is META for warlocks lol
waxen nymph
I know it's nothing new but I just released the 5pts Threshold
Jeez, just released Discord is not uploading picture from my phone
alpine canopy
Is this the droid you were looking for?
Also interesting that the node itself namewise is completely new, possibly means we get another +8 vit in the passive tree
should make it easier to hit 90 vit for dorb (assuming that node is unchanged)
gusty abyss
Stream teaser, new VK passive
turbid dome
Stream teaser, new VK passive
we are so back
tho side note you can't do silly convert it to void then convert it all to fire with Orian's eye
waxen nymph
Conversion happens one time only
gusty abyss
that is what I was wondering
turbid dome
probably not
gusty abyss
it would be on idols though, thats rough considering a lot of offensive power is gaine there
turbid dome
yeah
I guess you could grab a poison + necrotic taken as phys to round out your defense
but is it worth a prefix on helmet + body armor
gusty abyss
well armor is significantly stronger for phys, but that is hits which is not poison