💀┃acolyte

[zinc jay]

Since my warthlord can't move

I use this

[marble palm]

I know

But you can get that on a ring

Hence freeing up the prefix on your boots

[zinc jay]

Never find ring with it

[marble palm]

It comes occasionally from killing champion mobs

The mini bosses you sometimes find

[obtuse quest]

Only drops from the specific champion.

[marble palm]

I think Infernal champions can drop the mod

[zinc jay]

Where i can find those champions? On map or

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AOwNgnEA

[marble palm]

By just playing the game really

[obtuse quest]

On any map, spawns more commonly in tombs iirc.

[marble palm]

I see tonnes of them personally

[zinc jay]

Gotcha

[marble palm]

Champions that is, not necessarily the Infernal

[zinc jay]

Yea , seems i need pretty much upgrade all staff

or maybe do like this ?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKKYW9vA

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (67) / Lich (6) / Warlock (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,784, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 186.51, Regen: 9.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 224%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 10 Dex / 71 Int / 1 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 49% / 77% / 69% / 126% / 30% / 103% / 33%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 357
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (388)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (409)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 10%

Used skills:

Infernal Shade / Dread Shade / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Bone Curse

[gritty summit]

Any theorycrafters?

I have this build.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozqD26aB

Dropped 3Lp apooge sword so i am trying make a build around it. At this moment feels good.

Cold archer as main DPS, buffed from apogee. Dying zombies make vanguards. Mage kills vanguards for additional damage and apogee stacks. Chaos bolt converted to cold triggers harvest who triggers apogge and buff Minions.

Build is heavy wip.

I have problem with single target damage. Any ideas?

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (32) / Necromancer (69) / Warlock (6)

General:

▸ Health: 1,286, Regen: 20.12/s
▸ Mana: 97.48, Regen: 10.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 68%, Regen: 31/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 37 Dex / 34 Int / 0 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 53% / 50% / 27% / 66% / 55% / 94% / 5%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 334
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (148)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,554)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Volatile Zombie / Chaos Bolts / Harvest / Summon Skeletal Mage

[obtuse quest]

You lost the moment you did not slot in Dread Shade, it even has a cold convert on a set off-hand!

Archers are also not full cold, they do physical damage for their auto attacks and cold arrow is efftively a skill they can cast with a cooldown.

Also, why is snowdrift even here?

[gritty summit]

Snowdrift is just for test. Playtested a bit feels akward indeed. For sure i will be swapping for something else.

I cold use dreadsheed and remove harvest from skills bar. Convert to cold.

So archer base damage isn't converted to cold? If true quite a bummer

[obtuse quest]

Oh, yeah snowdrift does nothing for your concept so it’s kinda useless.

Archers still are physical, as the arrow is a skill, and does not replace their default attack, you can tell from the fact that they’re still treated as physical minions (but also cold minions)

[gritty summit]

There are any cold base attack Minion?

For necromancer

Golem also have convert node to cold

[obtuse quest]

Other than cryomages(skeletal mage convert) and cold converted golems, no.

Yes, necromancer doesn’t have much, if at all, cold support. Still better than acolyte’s other specs.

[gritty summit]

So my choices are to drop archers from build and pick maybe golems or go full psychical. If i go full psychical then apogee is quite useless.

Fast research and i could have 5 cryomages. Maybe i could this way

[obtuse quest]

Note that apogee also buffs necrotic, which is why I didn’t say anything about mages’ profane oblitation, even though that stays as necrotic damage and doesn’t follow mage converts

[old hull]

Since dread shade is mandatory, you'll always have some chunk of necrotic or cold or poison

Often times it's hard to focus on one specific damage type for your minions unless you pick one of those (and even then, you'll probably have some off-type damave)

[zinc jay]

https://youtu.be/WP7oydrcg-s?si=3_UL98HQogjkdSZ2 will this build work without snapshoting?

[fiery light]

You'll have to decide if you prefer to have a good minion but be extremely squishy and at risk of dying. Or the opposite.

I'm also confused as to why he's using wraithlord harbour for an abomination build.

[finite quiver]

I hope that in the future, the Acolyte can summon an undead dragon

[marble palm]

Wraithlord is better without snapshotting imo

[marble palm]

He is using it for the flat damage

[pale barn]

I'm having trouble deciding whether or not to go lich or necro for a aura of decay v. zombie poison vomit/skelly rogue hybrid build. i guess it depends on whether or not i want the minions to do the work or the aura to do most of it.

[old hull]

The aura will never do much, gotta go necro for dread shade.

[marble palm]

Aura of Decay can do work

But it breaks the game in the process

Literally XD

Heavy lag and frequent crashes

If you really invest into it anyway

Just aura of decay can work but it's single target lacks sadly

[pale barn]

alright i go with necro then, i've already done too many lich playthroughs

[obtuse quest]

Imagine thinking Aura of Decay is going to do any notable damage.

[drifting idol]

imagine trying to love again after a gruesome back and forth first love

🥺

jk

[obtuse quest]

[drifting idol]

farming harbinger eyes is a real toughie

[dapper pebble]

yo im playing warlock running around with 3k ward at all times, sometimes i get damage to health while still having ward, last time it hapend when fighting emperor of corpses, any ideas what might be happenning ?

[obtuse quest]

Emperor of corpses has a ground dot that does % current health damage.

The only thing that can go through ward is % current health damage stuff, and those cannot kill by itself.

[dapper pebble]

so the arena where you fight fire lich also does % health right ?

[pearl snow]

Also if you use transplant

Or other equipment that siphons health

[pearl snow]

Listen here bucko, me and my Chaos Big Bolt with Aura of Decay did so much damage. I’m sure seeing only 100k was simply because the game couldn’t comprehend its power

[obtuse quest]

No, that thing just deletes you by doing way more damage than you can ever tank.

[dapper pebble]

im doing t3 only

[pearl snow]

Doesnt matter

[obtuse quest]

Doesn't matter. It's made to destroy you.

[pearl snow]

That entire dungeon is based on the fact you get damage immunity

[obtuse quest]

Respect the dungeon mechanic (Shield swapping) or die horribly.

[dapper pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-496001393010401237

i will respect the mechanics in that case

if i have to 🙄

[obtuse quest]

If you can tank T4 julra's timebomb that forces you to swap timelines, there's still only a 50/50 chance you can tank fire lich.

[dapper pebble]

im nowhere near close to that :D

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYaX6qVo

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 79

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (1) / Warlock (71)

General:

▸ Health: 1,071, Regen: 32.07/s
▸ Mana: 231.9, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 301%, Regen: 295/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 22 Dex / 66 Int / 1 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 175% / 35% / 34% / 8% / 84% / 373% / 43%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 214
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (88)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (766)

Used skills:

Spirit Plague / Chthonic Fissure / Infernal Shade / Bone Curse / Profane Veil

[wintry flame]

how is it better without snapshotting?

[vivid monolith]

I think they mean wraithlord without snap is better than abom without snap

[obtuse quest]

Unless they mean "IF you don't want to snapshot, wraithlord is better than abom"

[wintry flame]

oh

I think Abom is better without snapshotting... 😛

Abom has better multis, plus you can run plague and get waaaaaaaay better clear than wraithlord

[vivid monolith]

Won't plague stop cutting it at one point

So you'll rely on abomination damage anyway

[dusky sage]

Could anyone clarify for me if I have a SSF CF character and I make another character with no SSF restrictions could I use gear found on the original SSF CF character?

[wintry flame]

yes, but most people won't be at the corruption level for it to matter

[obtuse quest]

No, because they don't share a stash (SSF and non SSF have seperate stashes)

[dusky sage]

Gotcha ty

[sonic coral]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q09Dxp3B

any suggestions on what to upgrade next? (im currently trying to farm for a 2lp/3lp uhkeiros to kill uberroth without uberroth gear)

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (80) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,224, Regen: 22.91/s
▸ Mana: 356.3, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 352%, Regen: 100/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 28 Dex / 167 Int / 16 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 78% / 67% / 87% / 102% / 111% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 445
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (148)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,797)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Reaper Form / Death Seal / Transplant / Drain Life

[obtuse quest]

You er, already have uberroth gear. The relic is uberroth only.

[sonic coral]

ik this is my 2nd character, im trying to kill uberroth on this without it

[lost gale]

is AoD actually going to be good in 1.3?

[obtuse quest]

Ah, then not sure.

[obtuse quest]

We got zero info, so pray to whatever you believe in.

[lost gale]

I can't believe it only uses 100% of your chance to poison per second by default. Absolute garbage

[empty kite]

Can you kill Uber Aberoth on warlock without previous experience and insane gear? My first season

[obtuse quest]

If it helps, er, Warlock is one of the few lowest uberroth kill specs. There's only one known build that can kill it.

[empty kite]

And if I respec to Lich?

[marble palm]

Can or has?

I’ve seen a minion army build kill Uberroth, if that can kill it then I am sure a lot of things can

[obtuse quest]

Has, with video proof. Warlock so far is flame whip.

[obtuse quest]

Really? Is there proof?

[obtuse quest]

Better odds, but also only a single build.

[marble palm]

I want to say Aaron from Action RPG on YouTube has the video up

[obtuse quest]

Last I checked he posted abberoth kills not uberroth, let me check.

[marble palm]

Maybe I am mistaken then

[obtuse quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qalsi1rloPk
Yup, the only one I see is golemancer that has dropped abberoth, not uberroth.

[marble palm]

I am mistaken

[pearl snow]

Flame whip go brr

[gaunt abyss]

more then wraithlord?

[vivid monolith]

The problem is that even if a build theoretically can kill Uber, you'd have to be flawless for like 20 minutes lol

[obtuse quest]

Uberroth’s hp is around the abomination boss’ health at 23k c

[vivid monolith]

wut

[empty kite]

And where I can see those builds both for warlock and lich?

[obtuse quest]

Letools might have them

[pearl snow]

In my opinion, yes. Snapshot thing may be better, but flame whip doesn’t require it so it’s automatically better.

[gaunt abyss]

hmmm. i might try that, i need to do witchfire as well

[pearl snow]

Yeah pure flame whip goes bonkers

In mediocre gear and 1LP uniques I killed normal abby in 1:30 including transitions

Vs 4:30 with Witchfire and great gear

[willow verge]

Have u tried against uber

[pearl snow]

Not yet, but flame whip is the only warlock build for uberroth atm

Several video kills

Look up Dirtbag and Antenz

[willow verge]

I read your build guide

Thinking about using infernal shade over spirit plague too. For better cleaning

[pearl snow]

Yeah Shade is super nice, gets rid of all the smaller mobs so the Whips hit the real targets

Plus Veil can autocast it for you in bad packs

[willow verge]

But for boss farming. I think spirit plage is better

[pearl snow]

100% and rip blood too

Since the spell dmg applies

[willow verge]

Currently leveling a flame whip. Lv87

[vivid monolith]

Isn't whip clear kind of eh

[pearl snow]

Yep

That’s why I pair it with infernal shade

Take out all the trash mobs with shade

[vivid monolith]

Do you have to then respec for bosses?

[pearl snow]

Only for uberroth, but even then you could probably do him without rip blood

You aren’t getting a ton of value out of rip blood anyways

You have like 15% cast speed

[vivid monolith]

Just some of the spell% right

[pearl snow]

I think its added flat spell dmg

But yeah

[vivid monolith]

Oh maybe, been a while since I've used it lmao

[pearl snow]

At most you’ll peak at 6 stacks. Which is a good amount I think on a dummy it’s like 50k a hit

So its a good amount

[vivid monolith]

Might be another build to add to my list

[vivid monolith]

@pearl snow delayed ping but now that I'm at my pc; do you have a planner for the non-rip-blood version of whip? Basically the clear version--dunno if you actually change any skills around outside of shade over blood but 🤷

[pearl snow]

I’m not at my pc but I think I’m the only Flame Whip guide on LET so check there

[vivid monolith]

oh alright lmao

[severe oak]

guys is there a cool melee necromancer build that exist ?

[pearl snow]

like melee minions or you use a melee skill?

[severe oak]

skills

[old hull]

Poison skele rogues is both, kinda

[severe oak]

like i want an active playing necro build but they all look so passive and boring sadly

[pearl snow]

the most active you could go is something with chaos bolts into your minions. I dont think there is a melee skill or something that buffs your minions

nearly everything is a spell

[old hull]

That playstyle tends to be more focused in beastmaster

[pearl snow]

also ^

[severe oak]

yh i was thinking of going to that class

[old hull]

You only have harvest as a melee option, and its buffs are limited. Basically you can either use harvest (doesn't even need to be specced) to proc apogee's area freeze and damage buff, or you can go lethal concentration and use harvest to proc a bit of poison chance for your rogues

Maybe there's other options around, but those are the only two I can think of

[severe oak]

ive not even got the game yet lel so i dont understand half of that, im just doing my research before getting it 😄

[old hull]

Ahh okay

[severe oak]

game looks rlly good tho

i didnt rlly like poe cause it was so complicated and i didnt like how every build is just effects on the screen and boom but last epoch is different, atleast in my eyes :))

[old hull]

If it's playstyle you want, beastmaster will probably give you that melee+minions thing pretty well, also some forge guard builds, though they don't have the same deathy/etc. theme

yeah, I tried out LE a long time ago and eventually dropped PoE entirely just because I enjoy making builds in it so much more

[pearl snow]

Yeah LE has way better build crafting because you can pivot in endgame

[severe oak]

how would u guys say spell blade holds up ? is it fun to play ?

[pearl snow]

may need to ask the mages that

[old hull]

I've enjoyed it, but I'm not super well-versed in spellblade stuff

[severe oak]

guys what is snapshotting ? i keep seeing it when looking at guides

[old hull]

It's basically exploiting the mechanic behind how stats are calculated; you can equip gear and get buffs and whatnot that aren't practical for actual combat to summon minions and then swap to full tanky gear to get the best of both basically. It's something that kinda got out of control this season, so I suspect EHG will do something about it in the next major update

[severe oak]

with a game like this can i switch my build up any time i want too ?

never rlly played an arpg before

[pearl snow]

In this arpg you can, it just costs some gold. Its really not that steep of a cost

[severe oak]

im hoping i can get gold for free lmao

[pearl snow]

yeah its just the generic in game gold

if you play the market faction where you sell items it can be even easier

the prices of respecing your character go up as you level, but nothing crazy

I think if I wanted to swap from Warlock to Necro itd cost 1mil

a full tree respec but staying as warlock costs 50k

I make like 50k an echo lmao

tldr its easy to switch around within the same class

[severe oak]

im still looking for a class/build to pick, its very tricky for me lol

[severe oak]

sounds good to me

[old hull]

Oh yeah, important note about this game. Once you buy the game, that's all you need to spend, all mtx, supporter packs, fancy versions, etc. are 100% cosmetic only.

[severe oak]

i come from bdo (black desert online) so nothing is free there

[severe oak]

amazing, are there any p2w features in this game or no ?

[vivid monolith]

play them all, ez

[vivid monolith]

no

[severe oak]

think smarter not harder, i like that

[old hull]

I have definitely heard about that one heh, yeah thankfully nothing like that here. No way to pay for any advantages in this game

[vivid monolith]

Also if you want a hybrid melee/pet class play Beastmaster, yeah. You have a 2s melee cooldown skill that triggers your companion's ability when you use it

[severe oak]

tbh the drip in this game looks amazing

[vivid monolith]

hot take: if you can see your character's model, you're not going fast enough

[old hull]

They really did up their game with these latest supporter packs, they look very cool imo

[pearl snow]

dont you trigger my ptsd

weight increases

seasonal characters

PEN enhancement

[severe oak]

im playing bdo rn hehe

looking for a temporary escape when i want to actually have fun and not hate myself LMAO

[severe oak]

isnt beastmaster quite a slow class ? how can he zoom ?

[vivid monolith]

evade+haste/leap/constant aoe attacks

[severe oak]

crownstorm beastmaster looks pretty cool so far from wot ive seen

okay im playing druid 100%

looks so cool

also ty for the help guys i rlly appreciate it <33

i will defo be back here again to ask questions i bet

[vivid monolith]

There's some fun builds being cooked up in #🐺┃primalist so don't get too settled on one 😂

[weak drift]

Same here, i quitted BDO after 9 years of playing finally

Feel such relieved after doing that

[calm dome]

Just spent 2 million to reorganize my stash and add some tabs for Acolyte gear for my 2nd character. Maybe when I can farm another 2 million I can actually separate the martial weapons by each weapon type

Really have no other use for gold as CoF lol

[pearl snow]

so organized

[zinc jay]

Ow that's so cool,i have like 65 stashes ,and kinda mess

[calm dome]

By the last tab count, I got 50

[silver night]

Guys, i need advice. Should i change the ring into AoM to increase fire dmg? But my necro resist will lower maybe to 600 or 580. Necro resist is needed for this passive item

[empty kite]

Torment Warlock, to how much corruption it scales approximately? The build from max roll

[zinc jay]

I see warlock can farm 1000/1500c at least

Does this chest good for necromancer ?

[marble palm]

Golem builds aren’t great no

Best use for that chest is exploiting

Wrong chest XD

[marble palm]

It can be good in VERY high corruption but otherwise there are usually better options

[zinc jay]

I just tried this, not going good

[marble palm]

That is a very meta chest used in a lot of builds

You do need to build for it though

[zinc jay]

I know , but idk , not going well

[calm dome]

I feel like a necro running this with Brewmaster's Belt is a nice combo to try to work with. Convert the potion health gained to ward and just gain a huge burst of ward while also increasing your ward threshold to accommodate the ward gained

Can run the potion passive node that consumes minions for healing and extra ward on overheal as well

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEbbXjeo

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (73) / Lich (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,771, Regen: 103.67/s
▸ Mana: 197.99, Regen: 10.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 248%, Regen: 177/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 10 Dex / 47 Int / 1 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 87% / 83% / 68% / 94% / 162% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 594
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (717)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[zinc jay]

Need find minion damage exalted to add into amulet and helmet i have 1 lp ,also minion damage would be cool

[zinc jay]

But brewmqster wouldn't give me that many minion hp ,that i have rn

[marble palm]

You would 100% be better off with exanguinous and another % health as ward affix on your gloves

[calm dome]

Don't forget the unique boots also if you are doing low life

[zinc jay]

I have cast speed on julra gloves

[empty kite]

On max roll builds there is section "Aspirational gear" what does that mean?

[empty kite]

And where you can see that?

[zinc jay]

Best possible gear 3/4lp

[zinc jay]

On YouTube

[obtuse quest]

Best in slot.

[gritty cargo]

Hasn't got anything to even compare to pale ox

[zinc jay]

@gritty cargo you just started acolyte ?

[gritty cargo]

No I've been playing acolyte all league

[marble palm]

What do you think it means?

[empty kite]

Well thing is english is not my native language and I treated that term like "legendary" and the like, thought there is some "aspirational" level of gear 🙂

But I see now

[empty kite]

Can someone explain why Flame Whip walock uses Hand of Judgement gloves?

[obtuse quest]

Gives fire pen. (That's literally it)

[empty kite]

Wow, didn't expect it's so impactful to use whole slot

And why we use melee damage leeched as health mods? If we are low life. I'm pretty new and have no idea how that all works but trying to figure out

[obtuse quest]

Offense wise you don't really have much else to use for gloves.

[empty kite]

Aha, thanks

And last question, why Torment warlock build is on maxroll site but Flame Whip version is not? Is that site not a good source of builds? Or there is some other reason they did not include it?

[obtuse quest]

Letools have builds from the community. Maxroll written builds are by like 2 or 3 people.

[calm dome]

I think I have an idea

[obtuse quest]

Remember to test your idea lest you fall into a trap

[calm dome]

Yeah I'll see how it plays but I was thinking of auto sac blood spectres and I run around with dread shade specced into doom brand

Just have constant doom brand explosions if the blood spectres are in my aoe

Soul blast is what it is called

[obtuse quest]

Quick question, how are you getting the dread shade up?

[calm dome]

On myself

[obtuse quest]

And how, pray tell, can you do that?

[calm dome]

I misread the symbiotic apparition lol

I thought it would let me target myself but I just get the buff

I guess I will just constantly cast it to keep getting doom brand procs lol

I can attach to the enemy oooo

That could work

[obtuse quest]

There we go, something that might work.

[calm dome]

Hmmm. I was thinking of using cruelty relic but proccing sacrifice with zombie might be better on mana

I am looking forward to my acolyte now

[marble palm]

It’s good but obviously it’s not exhaustive

There are plenty of good builds that wont make it onto the site

[gritty cargo]

Ill make a Ghostflame guide when I'm done building my Ghostflame up all the way and then maybe there'll be more than 2 of us using it

[calm dome]

Does the increased buff effect for Dread Shade from Flesh Harvest scale with the enemy missing health if you use Enemy of My Enemy?

[obtuse quest]

No, that stat checks the buff affected minion for their health, then gives that minion the increased effect, it does not care about the target holding the shade.

[calm dome]

I see. So if I want it to benefit myself the most, I would go low life

[obtuse quest]

I'm actually not too sure if that node procs on you with the player share node, you'll have to find out.

[mystic stratus]

man I can’t wait for the acolyte rework

[gaunt abyss]

low life or wall of nothing?

[calm dome]

https://youtu.be/QuPBRq2ZOTg?si=XzDoz9psbS9sB_H9 found an older video from dread and @10:40 he says the missing health of the enemy does provide more buff effect with flesh harvest

I do remember hearing about it from this video some time ago so I asked to verify

Now I just have two conflicting statements

[obtuse quest]

Then dread is probably correct, since he got videos and all

[calm dome]

Well it's just a claim of a content creator but I assume he tested it extensively

If it's true though, flesh harvest, symbiotic, enemy of my enemies seems really nice. Maybe spec into spectral distance to space out myself better

[old hull]

Should be easy to test since dread shade's stats are reflected on your character sheet. I suppose I should check that out, it would be a big boost for rogues actually if it bases it on your missing health.

But also it would mean I'll need to swap over to low life

[calm dome]

There's 2 interpretations.

1. Extra buff effect is based on the missing health of the attached target. So your minions would only get the extra buff effect if the one attached has lower health. This goes with Enemy of my Enemies, giving it stronger buff effect the lower the attached enemy's life bar.

2. Extra buff effect is based on the missing health of the unit getting buffed. So you get extra buff effect if you go low life with symbiotic but that also means your minions have to be low to benefit from the node.

Based on the video, it should be the 1st interpretation

[slender ibex]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
I know 3lp wand would be better (diff stats) and a red ring with 16 int but what are some easy upgrades i can do on this. I can easily murder aberroth but 10 harbingers or even less uber is beyond this character. For example I dont know are there some rolls on the wand I should be caring more or less? Or is there some different helmet base etc. Basically some easy pointers to power me up noticably 😇

[empty kite]

And why we are not dying from Blood Pact while on low life, if it drains 5% maximum hp and not current?

[slender ibex]

I just know that even after I do the ^^ upgrades I mentioned I wont be able to handle uber not even close, and thats the goal currently

[calm dome]

You forgot to import your character then share

[slender ibex]

oh crap true haha

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrynqN5Q

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (77) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,421, Regen: 24.6/s
▸ Mana: 363.5, Regen: 16.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 366%, Regen: 4/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 10 Dex / 183 Int / 10 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 68% / 133% / 116% / 36% / 95% / 49%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 484
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (75)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,229)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 9%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Drain Life / Reaper Form / Death Seal / Transplant

[calm dome]

Seeing death seal without running 60% endurance worries me if anything

[slender ibex]

is there some item or unique i should preferably apply it to?

[calm dome]

Not sure tbh. Since you are using exalted helmet, you could run a revenant mask base. There is also the endurance blessing in Spirits of Fire timeline

I always played Death Seal Lich with max Endurance and making my Endurance Threshold equal to 33% of my hp

At least

It makes you so tanky

[slender ibex]

okok well ill try to get some idols to fix my resistance and then able to put some endurance on equipment+ blessing. you know if the mad wand is there like really any mattering of ailment % on them? Cause to me it seems a bit irrelevant as long as the spell dmg implicit is high + what ever lp is only thing that matters

[calm dome]

I would have a similar opinion. The more spell damage modifier matter as long as you have enough hits going off to upkeep the ailments for the more spell damage. The higher percentage chance for ailments would only be for QoL

[slender ibex]

alright I appreciate it, will come crying again once ive done that and still get beaten up by uber, thank you

[calm dome]

I'm still struggling on uber myself but my main is Erasing Strike Void Knight. I always get him to last phase but mess it up each time

Only recently learned the placement of lasers matter since all previous laser shoot out periodically from where it was placed

So getting them in a vertical line helps with the last phase especially

[slender ibex]

yeah my main warpath VK gets him to like 50% comfortably but after that i find myself struggling. He was MG too so I was able to get immortal vise and shattered worlds but still wasnt enough
Not really certain iv my warpath just needs too much of hard to gain items or if it just boils down to skill gap.

I do love playing it when doing maps since the clear is just astoundingly good. but liches are so fun and figured Ill make a dps god in cof and hope to climb the gear ladder to the level of uber :3

[thorn grove]

lmao, 9ww and still got it, that's why you plan for the worst

[finite galleon]

Funnily enough, my only T7 crit multiplier weaver's amulet also has 9 will

It feels kinda bad

cuz it doesn't feel worth it to reroll its stats

I rerolled just a little bit

[thorn grove]

oof

yeah imma keep farmin more relics but this is good enough for now, i'll swap my imprints to t7 turquoise rings

[finite galleon]

noice, noice

[gaunt abyss]

whats a good dmg on a wraithlord?

[thorn grove]

seems like builds with single target crits nearing 1mil is good

but i've seen up to 2mil

[gaunt abyss]

i wonder if worth to trade like 250k dmg (1.17mil to 920k dmg) to more tanky

[thorn grove]

Can't say, doesn't sound too bad of a dps kill

[gaunt abyss]

not gonna do snapsothing i hate it

[slender ibex]

wait so its not worth to spam drain life with stygian coal ?? its better to keep farming up mana so u keep getting the 3% dmg per 10 current mana? I think ive been inting this whole time XD

[thorn grove]

For single target having more down is definitely better

And in general it does enough damage that it shouldn't matter too much in echos, I haven't noticed much difference mapping either way

[slender ibex]

but in bosses like uber or normal aberroth etc its better to max mana perma with drain life?

[thorn grove]

Not that I'm aware of

Even if you had 1k mana that's only 3x damage

When you could instead have like 20 drain lifes lol

[quasi steppe]

I only just noticed the 3% more damage per 10 current mana affix on stygian two days ago 🤦🏼‍♂️

[slender ibex]

yeah i think mapping its w/e cause might as well perma spam but i need to test with bosses to see if i kill them faster with or without spam

[quasi steppe]

I’ve been grinding corruption to 900+ now without actually knowing why more mana was a good thing for me lol

[slender ibex]

cause initial burst should be 100% better with spam but dps potential should differ after that

wait can u link ur build? I wanna see what I should aspire to, ive looked many diff builds and I can see the general theme but they do have diff preferences

like some guy runs decay skull 4 lp

some go with blood of the exile some use exalted

[quasi steppe]

Me? I’m just following a guide from some guy on YouTube that has 2 subscribers but also cleared Uberoth in about 1 min 5 seconds with Stygian coal 😂

[slender ibex]

oh shit is it this one
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bx7kzVOQ

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,109, Regen: 22.4/s
▸ Mana: 1,100.41, Regen: 18.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 404%, Regen: 11/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 29 Dex / 202 Int / 20 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 114% / 114% / 110% / 115% / 124% / 103%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 622
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (159)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,432)

Used skills:

Transplant / Rip Blood / Drain Life / Reaper Form / Death Seal

[slender ibex]

I am looking at this one too hahaha

saw the 1 min murder and was inspired xD

[quasi steppe]

Yep that’s the same exact guide I’m using lol

[slender ibex]

u using the same helm? does it actually feel impactful?

[quasi steppe]

I don’t have a second red ring or a shattered worlds let alone those insane 4LPs. But I can clear 900 and even 1180 with my Paladin friend co op

I’m using decayed skull yes. Mine is a 2LP with T7 int and T5 %Health

I used to use boneclad brute or whatever it’s called for the extra int and ward but switched when I saw that guy kill Uberoth

[slender ibex]

yeah i was thinking i need to farm for the helm as well as better idols. I do have 2 red rings but other has physical res not int. world shatter ofc not but I think its fine, once everything else is set up uber should be quite easy

i doubt that item makes the kill into super hard one suddenly xd

[quasi steppe]

The decayed skull is nice for the damage over time armor thing and 80% necrotic damage. Relatively easy to get a 2LP, no idea how that guy got a 4LP tho

Probably merchant guild I guess

[slender ibex]

u on cof? I literally made lich into cof just cause red rings and some other items are just so impossible to get without cof rates

in mg the cost of items are so insane that people wont sell them. Like red ring 1 lp u cant buy

[quasi steppe]

Yes CoF. My Paladin friend was nice enough to gift me his red ring drop he got while playing together, which the nemesis somehow gave me 1LP on!

[slender ibex]

damn nice, i got mine from ascending on my mg after 1000 attempts so was kinda anyway looking for a build that uses red rings haha

and it was 1 lp on first try xD

[quasi steppe]

I haven’t slammed mine yet because I don’t have a 16 int exalted for it yet, but may just do 15

[slender ibex]

naa bro, just get 16, some havoc runes and it should be easy

even if u just find 16 dex att or str u can just use woven echo and swap it to int

[quasi steppe]

Ohh good call which woven echo is that again to swap affix on item?

[slender ibex]

ah damn i dont remember of the head but its one of right rows where uber woven is at too

[quasi steppe]

I’ll find it no worries

[slender ibex]

u can buy them too i believe if ure rank 10 woven

[quasi steppe]

My mana is only 504 and that guy on YouTube has 1100 when he kills Uberoth…so my biggest grind now is finding ways to fit in more mana lol

[slender ibex]

i think the chest plate is a big one, 170 flat mana on null potent and the amulet having 12% increase mana

and ofc the idols

[thorn grove]

finally got the gloves i wanna slam, now to get 2lp julra's gloves and win the lottery on the slam... i've already killed t4 julra prolly 100 times and have yet to get 2lp gloves

[quasi steppe]

Nice what build is that for pigmasta

[thorn grove]

low life wraithlord, essentially ghazzy's build but instead of vessel of strife and the harbinger endurance chest it uses the general low life setup with exsanguoius or however you spell it, this glove affix, and last steps of the living

[quasi steppe]

Cool sounds fun

This season is my first foray into low life builds with Stygian coal. Death seal is a pretty insane skill

[thorn grove]

indeed lol

[finite galleon]

Wait, have you been collecting those gloves and rerolling them at the turtle echo?

[thorn grove]

i have...

[finite galleon]

Smoge

[thorn grove]

did i miss something?

[finite galleon]

Nope, smoge as in never lucky

[thorn grove]

oh haha

i've still got 50 more keys to burn dw

[finite galleon]

famous last words, right there

[thorn grove]

still... so much... to learnnnn.........

[old hull]

Yep it is for sure #1

which is good, so I don't need to swap over to low life - though low life might still be a viable way to play it

[thorn grove]

finally, last havoc killed the fp tho so i couldnt creation it 😢

this experimental affix is so seemingly rare

i just know the slam is gonna miss that hybrid health tho lol

you hate to see it

[drifting idol]

+1 strength

[thorn grove]

ikr 😂

[old hull]

oof

[frigid lintel]

Is it hard/possible to have 100%(or close to that) on this?:

[old hull]

100% no, close to it yes. It's kinda annoying to do, but it's a totally viable build.

[obtuse quest]

Mostly a timing thing, Overload has no cooldown but can't be refreshed. So you can proc Overload again as soon as it expires.

Mostly an issue of timing and "Do you constantly have the situation to proc it?"

[frigid lintel]

If skill have both tags - both overloads will pro?

[obtuse quest]

(The latter is the core issue since things are most likely dead in a second by witchfire so you got no bodies)

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[frigid lintel]

Sweet

[obtuse quest]

Remember that overloads only proc from direct casts.

[frigid lintel]

Got tired of Heartseeker MM so, trying to cook smth with acolyte.
And Downfall of the Righteous seems funny enough
But, if anyone have other cool suggestion - I'm all ears.

[frigid lintel]

hmm, game doesn't say that, but I assumed

Something like fissure or CB seems like good option to proc it

[old hull]

Yeah, ghostflame also works

the real trick to it is you always want to proc both overloads at exactly the same time - if you don't, the whole thing gets out of whack and feels terrible

[obtuse quest]

Gotta press the button the moment you wana proc overload though, it doesn’t proc while channeling

[old hull]

Yup, and I actually liked this a lot, let me wait and watch for my enemies to have to stacks to be sure I proc both

[obtuse quest]

Basically witchfire warlock which quite a few of us are doing

[old hull]

but it was too annoying for me in the end, so I swapped to skele rogues

after all their changes, they are actually viable now, so I was pretty happy with that

[karmic kelp]

Is the skele rogues build decent? Which build you following or is it your own?

[frigid lintel]

I figured

[old hull]

I made my own with lethal concentration, it's definitely viable

[frigid lintel]

This worries me

[old hull]

I clocked them at ~5M dps and I don't have really great gear and focused most of my stuff on survival

[pearl snow]

Are you doing poison with them or just minions hit things but rogues can poison

[old hull]

It's a poison build focused on the rogues doing all the damage

This is the planner I made for skele rogues for those interested, my gear is trash compared to this though ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALkYyOzo

(not optimized at all of course)

oh shoot and I never updated it, I use wraith "totems" instead of abom

[frigid lintel]

Can you share ur build? In case I'll decide to go for Witchfire)

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/witchfire-warlock
A useful build guide for ya

[severe oak]

guys which faction is recomended to join for new player ?

[obtuse quest]

Do you plan to trade? If yes:MG.
otherwise CoF

[frigid lintel]

Thx

[severe oak]

am i able to switch factions whenever i want ?

[obtuse quest]

Yes, but each faction has their own rank and you can’t use equipment that requires you to be in the other faction

[severe oak]

how good is trading ? sorry for lot of question.

[obtuse quest]

If you’re trying to get niche stuff, pretty good. If you’re trying to get meta stuff, you’ll break your wallet

[severe oak]

okay i will just go with the drop rate faction :)) ty for the help

[karmic kelp]

It also shows specced harvest not slotted and wandering spirits being used but not specced but I'm not seeing anything that fires harvest automatically. Confused!

[copper bay]

will this skill give flame wrath necrotic dmg as well?

or in general does any skill that gives flat dmg to a specific element dmg or status trigger chance applys to all the summon from this tree regardless of variant?

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[copper bay]

good to know ty

[karmic kelp]

yes

[old hull]

Yeah good point, I never changed my skillbar either lol. I actually use harvest where I used to use wandering spirits. I really wanted hybrid damage to work with scaling all my poison damage, but it was just impossible to get any real damage outside of the skele rogues themselves.

[obtuse quest]

Exception is that anything that does 0 damage cannot have damage added to it

(Relevant if you’re using purtrid wraiths)

[copper bay]

i see

[karmic kelp]

Yea, I'm an acolyte fan thru and thru but until their rework in S3 they just don't seem as good as other classes atm. I want my poison lich back so bad lol

[old hull]

And important to note about skele rogues is, you want to make sure you are under the effects of dread shade, then activate AoD, then summon your rogues. The effects of AoD and dread shade snapshot onto the rogues, so they kinda get 3x dread shade bonuses lol.

Except it's probably more like 2.1x dread shade multiplicative with 1x dread shade, so higher

[karmic kelp]

Yea, personally I refuse to use snapshotting. It's such a BS "mechanic". SO glad it's going away

[frigid lintel]

EHG plan to remove it?

[karmic kelp]

Most definitely, they said it's fine to use but is unintentional and are looking at how to "fix it"

[old hull]

The way it's used in this build is not like people are doing nowadays, no gear swaps or anything and all the buffs you're "snapshotting" are permanent anyway - you really just want to make sure you don't accidentally snapshot them before you have your permanent buffs on

you can just spam the skele rogues on top of enemies if you feel like

[karmic kelp]

that's a fair point. The gear swapping for snapshotting is such hot garbage 😛 (my opinion of course)

[old hull]

Agreed, I'm never going to do that

and also I don't care about pushing to do uber Abby

but skele rogues can kill regular Abby really easily, so I'm okay with that

[karmic kelp]

Mike already answered it's an unfortunate side effect of minions they do not want but haven't figured out how to correct it yet but are actively working on it

[old hull]

I hope they figure it out in time to get something in S3 with how "hot" the topic has become

[karmic kelp]

I'm just overly excited for the acolyte rework for S3

[old hull]

It's not ideal when tons of major content creators are pushing super unfun (for many people) setups

I'm ready for cold lich to be a thing

spreading my conspiracy theory

[karmic kelp]

I could def get behind that 🙂

I tried a full blown cold army with ice archers and frost mages but I didn't do well haha

[frigid lintel]

Nice

[old hull]

Frost mages with the ice golems can work, I ran that a while back using apogee to kinda perma-freeze almost everything, it was nice

but also that was the build I used temp abom to 1-shot all bosses for me 😂

[karmic kelp]

Honestly, the biggest QOL I pray for one day is a D3 armory type system so I can freely try different necro, lich, etc builds on the same char

[old hull]

I wouldn't hate it, even if they didn't make it entirely free. It'll probably be a long while though, it was a big deal they even added mastery respec.

[obtuse quest]

Armoury? They have said multiple times they won’t do it.

[old hull]

That's why I bring up mastery respec, they said the same thing about that

[obtuse quest]

Trueeee

But I bet it’ll either be quite a while or comes with another cost-

[karmic kelp]

Yea I know but they also said multiple times they wouldn't allow crafting materials to auto move either but the community won that battle so I can keep dreamin

[old hull]

If EHG is anything, they are definitely flexible and willing to hear what people want. But yeah it will be a while and I do expect it to cost.

[obtuse quest]

It’ll be really funny if they slapped on a high gold cost and we get a repeat of what happened when mastery respecs just dropped

[karmic kelp]

IMO, when it's easier to just level another char of the SAME class to play a different build that's a problem. Swapping builds is painful

[old hull]

Yeah, I was literally just thinking they'd probably charge us the full cost to respec it as if we did it manual

[obtuse quest]

Probably that and an additional cost maybe?

[old hull]

Yeah, like maybe charge for full passives refund just to make it simpler or something

I did try out the mastery respec after getting my withfire warlock to empowered, and it wasn't too bad, but it was also like my third char so I was already really well-established in the season

[karmic kelp]

With the amount of stash tabs I've bought I can't afford respeccing even if I wanted LOL. So I just leveled each acolyte class

[copper bay]

how is dread shade(1 minion only) on arch mage vs abomination? Right now when I used it on my abomination it does like 10-12k dmg on crit, while archmage does 2-3k per proejectil and he has 5 projectiles, felt like it's even better than abomination

only thing is that I had to recast shade after teleport and sometimes on the wrong target which is quite annoying

[obtuse quest]

Dread shade is a must use skill for necros, so I don’t entierly get the question.

[obtuse quest]

Also you don’t need to do that unless by teleport you mean changing zones

[old hull]

If you use mage as your primary damage, you don't want it to also be your traversal skill

[copper bay]

I have upgraded the nodes for dread shade which only buffs 1 minion, deciding between buffing abomination or archmage. I've reset skill specialization to test out and found that abomination after absorbing like 13 minions does the same or even less dmg than archmage, not really sure which one is better

[pearl snow]

dont make me cook

[copper bay]

I have no slot for transplant, right now mage teleport seems to be my only option

[obtuse quest]

Abom, with the proper setup and skill nodes, will one shot bosses, something archmage can never do

[obtuse quest]

You cna always use an unspecced transplant,unless your skill bar is also full

[copper bay]

my skill is build around no health decay, permanent minions

[copper bay]

it is..

[obtuse quest]

Oh, rip

[obtuse quest]

Then abom can still be stronger than an archmage if you put the effort into it. (Feeding it all 3 skeleton and 3 skeletal mage types count as 6 different minions)

[copper bay]

that version is the one i tested with

6 type and i believe 13 total minions absorbed

[obtuse quest]

Then abom is basically the boss killer and archmage is your clear

Iirc archmage projectiles don’t shotgun so it won’t beat abom for bossing

[copper bay]

they do more or less the same amount of total damage though, assuming all projectiles from archmage hits

mage is even higher actually, but i'm not sure about atk speed, hasnt found anything tanky enough to see the difference

[obtuse quest]

Which can’t happen since to my knowledge each cast from their attack can only hit each enemy once. (AKA it doesn’t shotgun)

[copper bay]

ahh

so that's what u mean

[obtuse quest]

Archmage absolutely beats abom in clear, no contest.

But abom can and will have multi archmage’s bossing dps

[calm dome]

Abomination is the best minion build but you have to have two sets of gear, one for damage snapshot and another for defense, do a whole ritual of speccing and unspeccing to summon a bunch of different minons and then you are good to go

I personally don't want to play it as min-maxed as that but it is a thing

[vivid monolith]

Just play wraithlord and have a big lad with an automatic laser shotgun follow you around 👍

[obtuse quest]

Doing that makes abom do about 25x damage of every other minion build.
Doing it with just minion sacrifice minmax without making it perm still makes it do about 3-5 times more damage compaored to any other acolyte minion for bossing

[thorn grove]

wait a min, acolyte actually doesnt look entirely stupid at low settings unlike all other classes

[copper bay]

that involves health decay right

[obtuse quest]

Less of a problem in bossing if it has any sort of leech since it’ll be constantly slapping the boss

[calm dome]

No health decay. https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/necromancer-abomination-snapshotting

[stuck owl]

Necromancer Abomination Snapshotting Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class

Acolyte / Necromancer

Used skills

• Assemble Abomination
• Infernal Shade
• Dread Shade
• Summon Skeleton
• Summon Skeletal Mage

Used unique items

• Ambitions of an Erased Acolyte
• Naal's Tooth
• Tolmat's Incorrect History of Eterra
• Hollow Finger
• Wraithlord's Harbour
• Death Rattle
• Eterra's Path
• Julra's Obsession
• Aaron's Will
• Orian's Descent

Tags

Boss Killer / SSF / Minions

Created by readceras · May 16, 2025, 4:55 AM

[obtuse quest]

Oh it’s the setup that also SNAPSHOTS the no health decay node

[thorn grove]

lol

how?

[copper bay]

is that kinda a glitch in skill tree reset

since it doesnt remove the variants you already summoned

[obtuse quest]

Basically: minions and skills don’t get updated if their spec tree changes. Mainly only when it’s removed from the bar

[copper bay]

yeah that's a ritual alright lol. though sometimes when i missed with respec or learning skill mid way a bug occurs where i could only summon 1 specific variant

only fix if i restart the game

[obtuse quest]

The easy example I can give: spec into aura of decay’s armour shred convert. Activate it. Unspec aura of decay. It will still shred armour until you turn it on and off again, zone change, or relog

[thorn grove]

can some boss abilities still stun even if your minions cant be stunned via gear?

[obtuse quest]

Iirc no, there’s a good chance it isn’t a stun.

[thorn grove]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15773207977179965407/031A4805D75F626BE395DF5DE03C22AB2F2E482D/

dang no embed, but you can see the circling stun above the wraithlord's head

[obtuse quest]

The wraithlord is also covered in frost, so there’s a chance it’s freeze

[thorn grove]

ohhhh, i suppose i've never noticed if the freeze also has that circling halo

i'm honestly thinking of dropping hybrid health on the boots for my aspirational gear to instead have cooldown recov

having the wraithlord tp with me when i transplant is awesome for echos

[pearl snow]

Has anyone seen a doom brand sort of setup with Necro working?

[vivid monolith]

Hmm... for a 3lp Shroud of Obscurity, what should I slam? For leveling acolytes... most broadly useful affixes?

My new level 8 acolyte already has 500 passive ward thanks to a scuffed Claw from a nemesis, but aside from generic survivability I've no idea what to throw

[copper bay]

is there a recommend skill tree for twin spirits wrath

I've found an idol which gives me 41% chance summon flame wrath witout the skill nodes

[obtuse quest]

You probably don’t want to use shroud as a leveling unique, but otherwise: generic defensive stuff like health

[vivid monolith]

Why not?

[obtuse quest]

You won’t have the proper stats to make low life ward work well, and you’ll basically be equal or sometimes worse than straight up normal health builds.

[thorn grove]

why cant this be attack and cast speed 😢

is it cuz the flame wraiths would be too op?

[obtuse quest]

Have you seen the damage flame wraiths have done before people cooked with abom?

[thorn grove]

no but ik they're really strong

[obtuse quest]

They were basically “run flame wraiths or suffer” before 1.1

[calm dome]

I've been theorycrafting but seeing all the triggers costs is making me rethink the theory

[zinc jay]

For warlock what kinda build good at start and like min max options?

[calm dome]

Some flavor of torment warlock to scale offense and defense with necrotic resistance stacking is always an easy starter imo

I really think you can just pick an ailment and just run it with warlock

[pearl snow]

Yep every ailment is viable up to normal abby honestly

300cr and N Abby can probably be done on every ailment

Uh minus Frostbite

[pearl snow]

I have something limping along in the 300cr range with detah knight oblation and wraithlord doing my summoning for me

but its rough dmg wise

mana isnt too awful

I think the wraithlord conflicting with Dk isnt working as nicely as I hope

[calm dome]

If anything, you can just run all ailments on warlock

[pearl snow]

maybe this is cruelty angle

[pearl snow]

it is a cruelty angle

[marble palm]

Just play the game, experiment and have fun. Respeccing is very easy to do, especially early on.

[zinc jay]

Actually my necromancer did good against Abberoth, almost kill him zhe was like 15% hp,but i dead on his slam 🤣 @marble palm

[marble palm]

Why not go again? Or farm a bit more then go again?

[placid token]

Hi, could anyoone help me with scaling my witchfire dmg?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeMrv9qQ
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Cursedboy/character/WitchFirePrecious
when i compare the numbers, there is huge gap between my build and the guide

especially here
I understand that relic more witchfire dmg depends on agood roll of unique but what about lich passive tree? I have the same nodes

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (14) / Warlock (76)

General:

▸ Health: 1,868, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 122.99, Regen: 8.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 234%, Regen: 219/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 14 Dex / 74 Int / 4 Att / 46 Vit
▸ Resistances: 154% / 86% / 40% / 92% / 120% / 475% / 97%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 374
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (56)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,129)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Chthonic Fissure / Wandering Spirits / Transplant / Profane Veil

[zinc jay]

Go again into necromancer?

[marble palm]

On the same character

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWl4jDdB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (73) / Lich (1) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,919, Regen: 29.72/s
▸ Mana: 174.5, Regen: 8.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 206%, Regen: 52/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 16 Dex / 58 Int / 1 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 89% / 85% / 77% / 73% / 164% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 522
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (64)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (509)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[zinc jay]

That's what i done with equipment

Up minion necrotic damage into 1k

Not bad at all

[marble palm]

Did you read what the passives do?

[obtuse quest]

Hollow lich's damage mod depends on how much generic leech you have.
And you have almost nothing.

[marble palm]

Should have let them think for them self for a bit

So many people just blindly follow build guides

[zinc jay]

I think i need try warlock for now @marble palm

Never played this character type

After that i will be back to necroman

[marble palm]

Fair enough, in any case I highly recommend you just get stuck in without a guide for now

See what looks fun and run with it, you can always respec easily later on

[placid token]

oh, thank you so melee leech counts LOL

[obtuse quest]

That's effectively the core of the passive yes, the alt text example should clue you into it.

[zinc jay]

Yea i start new character, lvl 10 by now

[ashen beacon]

was the experimental summon "volatile zombie" taken out the game?

[obtuse quest]

The affix? Changed to summon bees instead.

[ashen beacon]

bummer

[empty kite]

Can someone clarify how to craft a ring with set affixes? On the example ring I see the set affix is T7. Do I need a ring with other mod T7 and open prefix, and then I add set prefix and upgrade it, then use rune which shuffles mod tiers ?

[obtuse quest]

Correct.

Full marks.

[empty kite]

And set affix shard always adds specific mod from set item?

[obtuse quest]

Yup.

[verbal monolith]

this working for anyone? doesn't seem to be stacking charges for me since soul explosion doesn't ever trigger and i can't find a charge counter anywhere

was really hoping it would work since i fully empowered a nemesis on my lvl 27 necro for it 😦

[obtuse quest]

Only on kills done by YOU. Minion kills don't count.

[verbal monolith]

ah, they need to change the tooltip then 😦 guess i'll toss it in the vault for if i decide to run a warlock or something

[obtuse quest]

They don't. Anything that doesn't say "minion" always does not affect minions. There are no exceptions except a unique that states that the affixes get passed to minions. It's pretty much a universal rule.

[verbal monolith]

may be obvious to you, but as a new player it wasn't to me. in most other games "on kill" mechanics encompass your summons as well unless it says kills by summons don't count

[obtuse quest]

Fairish, but now you know. For LE, unless it says "minion", it never affects minions.

[verbal monolith]

@obtuse quest oh i also seem to be running into a glitch, maybe you know what's causing it.
with my skill setups i should be able to summon 5 skeletons and 3 mages, instead i can summon 6 skeletons and 4 mages

[obtuse quest]

Necromancer's mastery passive gives you +1 to max skeletons and skeletal mages.

[verbal monolith]

ah, didn't notice that. thx

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/minions
The minion section does say that about minion affixes, the in-game game guide is pretty decent.

[verbal monolith]

yea i knew affixes didn't affect minions, but even in that it doesn't say you don't get credit for minion kills for "on kill" effects

[obtuse quest]

Ah, they mean that rule VERY literally.

[marble palm]

I can’t speak for all games but a lot of games I play distinctly separate the two.

If it doesn’t specify minions it doesn’t affect them.

[versed epoch]

good morning folks, I have a lvl 81 Necro (can respec) can anyone recommend a good build that's fun to use to lvl up to lvl 90 to try and switch over to snapshot abom build?

[marble palm]

Fun is very subjective though.

I find Lich builds to be fun but a lot of people don’t.

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord?

[marble palm]

Wraithlord is good fun and easy to gear too

Pretty sure Abom works without gear too

Similar playstyle

And you can progress the build naturally

[jagged thistle]

CHANNEL THE SUCC

[obtuse quest]

Using a channeling skill? Imagine not moving-

[calm dome]

Ghostflame is the best of both worlds

[obtuse quest]

Fair but ghostflame doesn't succ

[jagged thistle]

i play crit focus sorc my man

[marble palm]

Crit is usually without saying

Crit > Non-crit

Assuming whatever you are using can crit

[jagged thistle]

yes but its focus

[thorn grove]

is there any way to make my minion attack button on the same bind as an ability via only in-game stuff? it'd be nice since i want my minions to attack wherever i place bone curse

[copper bay]

i have a idol that allow me to summon flame wrath 41%, does that mean i dont need these 4 skill nodes anymore?

[verbal monolith]

no, when you assign a keybind if its already in use it deletes the other use for it

[verbal monolith]

however the middle mouse button isn't assigned to anything so that's what i use for attack commands

not mouse wheel, middle click

[thorn grove]

most builds take those for the damage, not necessarily flame wraith spawning

[marble palm]

They're not to bad damage wise to have anyway and 41% isn't 100% so you wont be guaranteed flame wraiths

[thorn grove]

yeah i've got it on a side mouse button rn, just not a like 1-2 button build and now it's 1-3 💢 lol

[copper bay]

i can if i keep sacrificing the ones that's not a flame

[marble palm]

Sure, you can but that is annoying to do and the damage is nice to have anyway

[copper bay]

wouldnt 3 points increase more damage investing on other nodes? though i'm not sure which ones

[marble palm]

I'd take those nodes even if I was using 2x flame wraith idols

[marble palm]

Without seeing your current choices idk and if you have + to levels you'll have plenty of points to spare

[copper bay]

i was thinking bleed and crit

[obtuse quest]

Bleed is kinda.. eh? You won't be focused on physical minion damage nor bleed chance so it won't do that much

[copper bay]

idk only guessing here

mostly trying to find out is there an alternative that could potentially does more than getting the 2 flame wrath nodes now that i can free up 4 points

[obtuse quest]

Honestly, other than crit, I don't think so.

[copper bay]

maxing out the 2 necro nodes?

[obtuse quest]

You could, it is extra flat damage.

[copper bay]

doesnt wrath do necro dmg by default? or necro is removed for flame wrath other than extra flat dmg from skills

[marble palm]

Necrotic is their default damage type yes

[copper bay]

there's a 60% necro dmg buff

[obtuse quest]

Flame wraiths's base damage is fire instead of necrotic, but any flat necrotic you give it will still be necrotic.

[marble palm]

Obviously a flame wraith does fire damage

[copper bay]

ah

[obtuse quest]

You think they'll give you a different minion without doing anything major to it?

[marble palm]

Right?!

[copper bay]

i thought it was like fire+necro

for base dmg

[obtuse quest]

It's pure fire by default, which becomes fire+necro when you give them the skill spec node's + flat necro, or dread shade.

[marble palm]

Default Wraith = Necro
Fire Wraith = Fire
Putrid Wraith = Poison

Crazy stuff

[copper bay]

curious how this flame wrath build maxed necro dmg

[obtuse quest]

To be fair, the less crazy part is that most people don't know putrid wraiths do 0 damage.

[obtuse quest]

Looks okay for a 2 wraith setup, can't really do much else.

Wait how is it +8?

[marble palm]

Looks like Wraithlord

[copper bay]

good question

[marble palm]

+2 from weapon

+4 from chest

+1 from relic

+1 from helmet

Would be my guess

[marble palm]

The Necro damage will be for the Wraithlord

The flame wraiths are mostly there for utility

And to be eaten

[copper bay]

what kind of utility?

[marble palm]

Mostly armour shred

And being eaten XD

[copper bay]

minion death related skill? even for twin spirit build?

[marble palm]

Are you Wraithlord?

[copper bay]

idk what that mean tbh

[marble palm]

You'd know if you are Wraithlord I would hope

Or my faith in humanity just got that much lower XD

Do you have a link to your build?

Or guide you are using?

[copper bay]

nope i'm only lv52

using no guide other than the suggestions i gotten from here

[marble palm]

Ah, well you wont be Wraithlord yet if you plan to go that route anyway then

As the helmet requires level 65+ I think

[obtuse quest]

Are you wearing a specific unique helm?

[copper bay]

nope

[obtuse quest]

Then not wraithlord.

[marble palm]

Your skills look like they are setup for Wraithlord

[copper bay]

i just wear anything i found that's useful as of now

[marble palm]

Why are you limiting yourself to only 2 Wraiths then?

[copper bay]

i dont like heath decay

they stress me out and they'd be ded after a bathroom break

[marble palm]

You look like you're following a Wraithlord build without the Wraithlord part

You'd want to be constantly recasting new ones anyway

[copper bay]

i use mage, wrath abom and shade

[marble palm]

So the health decay is whatever

You don't have mage and abom specialised?

[copper bay]

i have

[copper bay]

this one is mine

[marble palm]

In the picture you linked above they aren't

Or was that someone elses tree?

[copper bay]

not this one this is a guide i found

[marble palm]

Ohh, okay

That makes more sense now

[obtuse quest]

Because that's wraithlord, which does primarily necrotic damage.

[marble palm]

We went over that, but he isn't Wraithlord anyway

[obtuse quest]

Well he was curious and thought it was flame wraiths, but it isn't flame wraiths.

[marble palm]

Just looking at Keeper's guide for Wraithlord now and he recommends leech as an affix on his weapon

[copper bay]

oh so that's just for dmg and he uses regular wrath?

[marble palm]

What am I missing here?

It's not for the Lich passive as he doesn't take that nor does it affect minions anyway

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord ignores converts, so that's why. It's just more damage.

[copper bay]

i see

[old hull]

It's probably just automatically added based on the item he actually slammed. All you really want is to avoid putting a damage affix on.

One that affects infernal shade

[marble palm]

Makes sense

Guides scare me, I'm going back under my rock

Maxroll is out here fully endorsing snapshotting

[pearl snow]

Everyone endorses snapshotting if they wanna kill uber or push high tbf

At least if you write a guide yada yada right

[marble palm]

I do not, not one bit

[pearl snow]

BIG DMG GO BRR LOOK CLICK HERE

I agree I don’t like the downtime

[obtuse quest]

It's pretty damn hard to hit past 1k c Or beat uberroth without it currently.

The best wraithlord player that only snapshots buffs, can hit 5k c because he's an insane player. He still can't beat uberroth.

[marble palm]

Can't comment on Uberroth as I barely played this league

[pearl snow]

Speaking of 1k. Are you pushing Witchfire rn Kzb?

To 1k or just vibing

[marble palm]

But considering Keeper claims to have pushed over 5k on his Wraithlord

[obtuse quest]

I went into a lull and got addicted to other games lmao

[marble palm]

Doubt?

[obtuse quest]

His build guide has videos on 5k c

[pearl snow]

Yeah Keeper isn’t faking it

[marble palm]

I am not saying he is

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/keepers-wraithlord-necromancer

[stuck owl]

Keeper's Wraithlord Necromancer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class

Acolyte / Necromancer

Used skills

• Infernal Shade
• Dread Shade
• Transplant
• Bone Curse
• Summon Wraith

Used unique items

• Wraithlord's Harbour
• Exsanguinous
• Usurper's Mandate
• Blood of the Exile
• Death Rattle
• Ambitions of an Erased Acolyte

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Minions

Created by keeper184 · Feb 20, 2025, 1:21 PM

[marble palm]

But if he can push over 5k

How is it hard to push over 1k without snapshotting?

[pearl snow]

Fair, I’ve spiraled into cooking builds that make 0 sense

[marble palm]

Based

[pearl snow]

Frostbite Warlock. Cold on Hit Chaos Bolts

[obtuse quest]

He isn't snapshotting, not minion snapshotting anyway

[marble palm]

I am still trying to make RF a thing is last epoch

[obtuse quest]

But his playstyle is also kinda different from usual.

[marble palm]

Aura of Decay kind of works, but it sucks xD

[obtuse quest]

LMAO

[pearl snow]

Canmt forget my current Ignite minions

[obtuse quest]

Welcome to my world

[obtuse quest]

Oh that's cooked

[obtuse quest]

That's more.. possible?

[pearl snow]

Though I’ve somehow landed onto trying Dread Shade Doom Brand with Cruelty

I messed up ignite minions got sidetracked onto the doom brand stuff

In 350cr its slow but my gear is bad for regen

[pearl snow]

The gear for frostbite was hilarious

I had vial on, snowdrift, that set relic of the mountain thing

[obtuse quest]

vial

[pearl snow]

Tbf since CB converts ignite you should just stack ignite

[obtuse quest]

Oh my lord it's jank!

[pearl snow]

But thats not fun

[thorn grove]

hmmm

would yall consider it snapshotting to remove the wraithlord helm to summon and sacrifice until you have 2 flame wraiths then put the helm back on?

[marble palm]

You don't understand what snapshotting is do you?

[thorn grove]

just a fun question lol

[obtuse quest]

I honestly don't know what it would achieve since in a wraithlord setup, wraithlord is your main dps and will outscale two wraiths easily.

[marble palm]

The 2 small wraiths add some extra armour shred stacks mostly

But really not much

[thorn grove]

yeah, i'm considering taking the no moving node in their tree so having them do any dmg would be nice

[marble palm]

It shouldn't be considered at all, just take it

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[vivid monolith]

I mean wraithlord will potentially summon flamewraiths anyway

And vs bosses you can infernal shade the little guys and stack them on the boss for 3x the hits

[thorn grove]

you have to be in combat for him to summon wraiths

[vivid monolith]

...and?

[thorn grove]

it's kinda a burden to do that mid echo vs in echo of a world

if they die then yeah he'll summon another

[lost gale]

anyone know what acolyte skill has the most more multipliers for ailments in a single hit?

Oh and does plague from idols inherit the ailment damage modifiers of the skill which procs it?

[finite galleon]

Ahh crap embryo's at it again

[lost gale]

I have two nacent ideas. Firestarter's torch forge guard, but idk if I can get the forged weapons to have enough of a multi on the spreading flames to be relevant

or plague on hit or on minion hit idol with whatever gets the biggest multiplier

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

Problem:Plague is poison.

[finite galleon]

When it comes to multiplier on a skill tree itself, I'm like 99% certain abomination has the largest of them all

[lost gale]

yeah that was what I feared. I really don't want to play abom

[finite galleon]

?????

???????

YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO SNAPSHOT TO GET A FAT MULTIPLIER REEEEE

[gaunt abyss]

what affix would you put on the boots of low life wraithlord.
int? hybrid health? CD?

[obtuse quest]

Movespeed?

[gaunt abyss]

with CD i can use trasperant more and move the wraithlord so i would have think its more usful.
or im wrong?

[obtuse quest]

You could as well yeah, but it also helps to have a decent base movespeed.

[gaunt abyss]

or i just get the experimntal affix t move minion around?
atm i use a chmpion ring for it

[lost gale]

I just don't like abom

[obtuse quest]

Getting that affix on ring is better since boot LPS are rare.

[lost gale]

I don't really like necro pets overall because I don't like the shades tbh and playing without the shades is just dismal

[gaunt abyss]

the low life boots give me 50% but they also chill me

so its 41%/33% move speed

[finite galleon]

Yes shade is less cute than totems

[finite galleon]

FINE THEN I DON'T LIKE YOU

[gaunt abyss]

any idea from what im getting hp back?
getting to like 500+ sometimes, aotu potion is off
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozq7Z5vB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (75) / Warlock (1)

General:

▸ Health: 1,904, Regen: 18.6/s
▸ Mana: 135.46, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 297%, Regen: 170/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 67 Int / 0 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 70% / 39% / 73% / 89% / 163% / 46%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 23%, Threshold: 381
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (157)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 9% (198)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Summon Wraith / Bone Curse / Transplant / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[finite galleon]

Based ppl chill at 0% movement speed

[gaunt abyss]

nvm i got it, the minions activeting the rip blood % fron the weapon 😦

[lost gale]

big bolt chaos bolts looks like it should have a pretty significant damage multiplier maybe

[obtuse quest]

@pearl snow

[pearl snow]

It does

WAY more dmg than individual

However the spell itself has some of the lowest base dmg and getting enough flat to do things with is incredibly tough

It is not a “DoT” spell so ghostmaker is out

[lost gale]

yeah I'm just thinking about scaling spreading flames and/or plague as much as I can

[pearl snow]

Have like 150% “more” cant even save it

Oh thatd be interesting

[lost gale]

with low life and big bolts there could be something there

[pearl snow]

Could be for sure

Cb also has up to 10% double dmg chance

With passives and chill

[lost gale]

bone curse actually looks like it has incredible more multis, if only it could inflict ailments

[calm dome]

Poison minions with the unique spear can double dip increased poison damage from poison dread shade spec if you take the symbiotic apparition node I am sure

[pearl snow]

It can bleed kek

[lost gale]

that's bleed on application rather than when triggered/hit tho innit?

[calm dome]

Cause they will get the dread shade buff themselves then the unique spear will scale the increased poison damage you receive also

[pearl snow]

I thought it was bleed on trigger

I forgor

[calm dome]

I think I am gonna go poison necro

[obtuse quest]

Those are hit damage only

[lost gale]

I did consider the poison rogues but the skeleton tree doesn't actually have many more multipliers in it and getting much benefit from the conservation of ninjutsu node means having very few skeletons indeed, which would hurt the rate at which plague would be applied etc

[pearl snow]

Rogues are apparently doing fairly well

[lost gale]

I think that rogues build does work decently, but I don't think it's ideal for scaling plague

[pearl snow]

Definitely not

Are you thinking plague and poison?

That staff did look interesting

[lost gale]

I'm not sure tbh. Right now spreading flames looks better to me

[dark ether]

I see a few sites in the pins, is there 1 of them generally seen as better than the rest?

[pearl snow]

I know cb can prob rip to poison too

Spreading might be easier tho

Lots of synergy

[lost gale]

I did see a levelling build which was basically just the auto-throwing heartseeker helmet and the plague staff tho lol

just run and let triggered heartseeker proc plague and kill everything

[pearl snow]

Lol

Okay maybe I got back to ailments lock. Stay in my own lane

Plague poison looks like something

[old hull]

It won't have any scaling though

[pearl snow]

@obtuse quest my poison friend am I crazy

[thorn grove]

does haste increase the wraithlord's swivel speed at all or is it a wasted point in the infernal shade tree if he cant move anyways

[lost gale]

yeah I know, it's just for running through the campaign

[obtuse quest]

Letools and maxroll

[obtuse quest]

Yes you’re crazy

[calm dome]

Trying to look at poison minions specs and other than rogues, I only see zombie and wraiths. Skeletal mages have up to 100% poison chance as passives I guess also

Only heard disappointing stuff about poison wraiths and zombies

[pearl snow]

Sadge

[old hull]

Abom has so many multipliers, I think I've heard it can apply some hefty plague

[calm dome]

Plague on abom is used for clear

[lost gale]

yeah Abom does indeed seem pretty stronk

[pearl snow]

Okay ill keep looking at ignite minions for now

[lost gale]

Bone Golem has 50% more dot and 100% more dot nodes up with the pyre golem but nothing else looks like it would scale plague

[pearl snow]

I can use PoB in this game to check if im crazy so I use kzb now

Cant*

[old hull]

And I do include plague on my poison rogues, not totally sure how much it really helps on clear

[pearl snow]

Probably pretty decent. It starts at 150 doesnt it

[lost gale]

it's 150/4s, 6m spread range

[calm dome]

I remember an old poison fire golem build, using the added poison damage to minion dot skills from cycle of putrescence to make fire golem do a bunch of poison damage with the multipliers plus aura of decay minion spec

[pearl snow]

Wait poison starts at 28 GROSS

[lost gale]

spreading flames is 200/4s, 5m spread range

so plague definitely spreads more and the plague staff has up to 200% pen with plague which is a serious multiplier

[finite galleon]

I know for a fact that haste actually makes abomination rotate slower somehow. Dunno about wraith tho

[calm dome]

I don't think the stats on plague staff applies to minion's inflicting plague though

[pearl snow]

It doesnt

[thorn grove]

-_- this patch fixed spirit step getting you stuck but not transplant apparently, at least i have a few friends to keep me company 😂

[lost gale]

yeah you're right but im looking at player and minion scaled plague/spreading flames rn, just looking at the options

it would work for forged weapons though wouldn't it?

firestarter's torch or plague bearer's staff forged weapons

maybe manifest armor with the node that adds weapon stats?

[west chasm]

hi. after tonights patch i can no longer see my minions in the top left corner - and i can't find any options to turn it back on either. is it intended, or...?

[vivid monolith]

No, that's a bug

[thorn grove]

it's an acknowledged bug with the most recent patch

[west chasm]

Oh, ok, thanks!

[calm dome]

That is an interesting question. I assume most standard affixes would apply but unique affixes do not for forged weapons but I can be wrong.

For sure stats on the weapon itself do nothing for forged weapons

[lost gale]

but it says they benefit from the stats & attack rate of your weapon doesn't it?

[calm dome]

By stats I mean attributes sorry

Like an all attributes roll on a 2hand weapon provides nothing for forged weapons

[lost gale]

ah yeah I know about attributes

[old hull]

Should yeah, for the most part

[lost gale]

but a firestarter's torch should have your forged weapons inflicting spreading flames right?

[old hull]

The % health loss also shouldn't apply to the FWs

[lost gale]

or the plague staff

[old hull]

Yeah

[lost gale]

well forged weapons has a lot of multis

uh, well, kinda

20% great axe, 75%, 50% it looks like

so not that great

I mis-read great axe as 100% more

I think the biggest damage for plague/spreading flames may just be shade pop

[vivid monolith]

How do [Blood Pact] and [Dark Shackles] work together in Drain Life?

Does it just set the cost to 65, without scaling it up as you pick +cost nodes, or something else?

[old hull]

Simple stuff is like damage stats, ailment stats, etc.

[lost gale]

basically it doesn't work how you want it to

[vivid monolith]

Just trying to figure out why Pact is taken lol

[pallid plume]

Has anyone tested out mass minions necromancer after the fix for 50% DR now ?

[old hull]

No, but I tried skele rogues. They used to die to trash mobs in 100c, now I had no issues. Abby's timeshattering slam did kill them though lol, but he was still super easy.

[pallid plume]

Hmm.

Seems better than before atleast.

[old hull]

Yeah, I never would have thought skeletons of any type could be tanky, but they do pretty well now

[pallid plume]

I was wondering if mass zoo cold works now.

Convert skeleton archer to cold, mage to cold, hey golem to cold if you really want to and then lichs scorn for cold dread shade

[old hull]

It might be viable even if it's not meta

[pallid plume]

Yeah 500c viable maybe

For season 3 I do wanna go back to my old classic necro tho.

Always have my backup plan of Profane pop mages anyway.

It was really smooth from a test run.

[calm dome]

Cold Golem gives an outlet to scale offense with vitality stacking. In almost every ARPG I played so far, if you can scale both offense and defense with one stat, it is efficient to just get as much of it.

Been wanting to do some cold golem vitality stacking but idk where to go from there other than reforged lich affix for cold converting dread shade

Aaron's Will cold golem?

[spiral otter]

Hi!
What build is the strongest this season? Fastest and tankiest

[cunning sonnet]

anything for sentinel

[spiral otter]

I know, but we're in acolyte channel, so what about acolyte 😄

[cunning sonnet]

ohhh my bad i didn't even reqalize haha

not sure bout that one, hope you find something good though 👍

[lost gale]

Abomination Necro

with a big asterisk next to fastest, because it's not particularly fast clearing but it is considerably better bossing/single target than anything else I know of for Acolyte

[spiral otter]

Cool, I rather wanna be fast though, dont mind dying some times, got any ideas for that?

[lost gale]

stygian coal lich

or witchfire if you don't care about bossing at all

witchfire will be the best clear you can get probably

[spiral otter]

this one? https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/witchfire-warlock

[stuck owl]

Witchfire Warlock Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class

Acolyte / Warlock

Used skills

• Chthonic Fissure
• Bone Curse
• Spirit Plague
• Chaos Bolts
• Profane Veil

Used unique items

• Downfall of the Righteous
• Ashes of Mortality
• Boneclamor Barbute
• Pearls of the Swine

Tags

Monolith Farmer / Arena / Season Starter / Beginner / DoT

Created by Tevonsonte · Apr 29, 2025, 12:26 AM

[old hull]

You always have that option with most attribute stacking. It's why attribute stacking is the meta currently and why they nerfed int in particular.

[pearl snow]

That and Torment lock will give you quick clearing. No acolyte build is “tanky” though

[thorn grove]

This is my character rn and my wraithlord is hitting for 50-100k per cast, ik i'm missing like 300% inc damage but even with that i feel like my damage is really lacking, it's great for 320c echos rn but i want it to be doin like 1 mil per cast, what am i missing...

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZvEOx1B

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 91

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (33) / Necromancer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 1,645, Regen: 22.74/s
▸ Mana: 104.96, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 247%, Regen: 83/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 13 Int / 1 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 87% / 76% / 76% / 78% / 92% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 329
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (218)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,030)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 96%

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade

[thorn grove]

i plan to take the locus of death node once i get a good ring but i've seen builds hitting 1mil without it

wait, there's two flat minion spell dmg affixes that can go on axes....

that much more flat damage would still only bring me to like 200k max

[drifting idol]

another day, another farm session with no avail

[thorn grove]

okay this is very likely a stupid idea but what about replacing bone curse with rip blood, making use of 200% blood splatter chance so the original target is hit, have blood splatter only cast on minions, allow blood splatter to grant minions blood infusion, and then have transplant cast blood splatter along with the traversal skill teleporting minions

XD

I updated my aspirational build planner with this
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1w1JwZB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (35) / Necromancer (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,898, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 110.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 256%, Regen: 78/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 35 Int / 1 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 86% / 86% / 81% / 74% / 93% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 580
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (223)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (834)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Rip Blood

[neat stump]

Alright, I need some advice, I was following a Lich Guide, and I seem to have gear that closely matches their own, but I feel like im bumbling with the rotation, when to pop Death Seal, etc, and I feel like I should be doing way more damage. Im trying to use this, my 2nd alt to kill Ubberoth, but im not having alot of big dps luck

Stygian Crit Lich
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEePDZ4B

I try to enter Reaper Form, Cast Death Seal, and hold down Rip Blood and drain Life

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (80) / Warlock (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,737, Regen: 22.32/s
▸ Mana: 465.51, Regen: 13.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 452%, Regen: 35/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 21 Dex / 187 Int / 12 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 47% / 96% / 86% / 96% / 43% / 185% / 92%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 547
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (313)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,104)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Transplant / Drain Life / Reaper Form / Death Seal

[obtuse quest]

Blood infusion can trigger even if you can’t hit minions

[obtuse quest]

Drain life has a mana cost per second eve after Dark Shackles. Blood pact converts that into health cost per second

[thorn grove]

Yeah it's a hard pick but i hope that it casts on minions when I transplant so I don't even have to cast it directly

That way I don't have to have an enemy right by them

But I'm worried that the minions will be teleported before rip blood can cast or something since all of that happens at the same time

[obtuse quest]

That’s pretty much it. Have Death Seal and Reaper From up as much as possible and spam Drain Life instances while keeping your mana as high as possible. It does look like you arent crit capped

[neat stump]

Whats cap again?

So, for Death Seal, i pop it, but I let it expire on it's own? Or do i pop it a 2nd time to return back at any point?

[obtuse quest]

100%. 75% if acid skin is accounted for.

[obtuse quest]

You want it to have as much uptime as possible, so never press the button.

[neat stump]

So the former, then

[neat stump]

Should I try and swap my stats so t7 is Spell Crit and t5 is CSM?

[obtuse quest]

Yup

[neat stump]

will do

[thorn grove]

found out why, it's cuz these dummies inflate your damage by like 10x at least

[old hull]

You deal 7.69x damage to dummies compared to regular level 100 enemies

[thorn grove]

ope so less than i thought but ig that's a positive for me lol

well that kinda sucks then if that's the damage ceiling of wraithlord

[old hull]

1.4M damage hits are plenty fine, you'll be hitting pretty fast

[thorn grove]

that's with scuffed gear as well, i'm missing 59 flat spell, but like it's genuinely not even in the same world as ES but i suppose that's not a fair fight...

[old hull]

Sentinel is busted right now... but also to temper your expectations, wraithlord is still borderline OP probably

or way beyond borderline possibly, idk I haven't been keeping too close an eye on it

[thorn grove]

ES on these dummies, hitting like 3x as fast too XD

i am curious if wraithlord can beat uber abby tho

i've been trying with my ES VK and i just lack the skill to do it sadly, even with as much of a crutch as ES is

if i max out my gear i can prolly nearly double my current wraithlord dmg

it's at least cool to see that i've made it to where the builds i've seen are at

but i'm sure there's a lot more that can be gotten out of the build if someone with much more build making skill was doin it

takes like 5 minutes but the current build can kill reg abby with relative ease

[severe oak]

Guys what does lp actually do ? Like what does have legendary potential 1 on an item do to make it different from an item without lp ? (I'm new)

[thorn grove]

lp or legendary potential allows you to take an exalted item and "slam" one or more, depending on the lp number, of its non-sealed affixes to the unique item making it a legendary. you can do this at the end of the temporal sanctum dungeon
this type of question is best put in #❔┃ask-the-community prolly

[pearl snow]

I thought a wraithlord necro killed uberroth. Or was it a giga snapshot abom?

[thorn grove]

abomination def did

[obtuse quest]

Abom iirc

[vivid monolith]

I don't know of any Necro build other than abom that has done it w/ proof

[pearl snow]

Makes sense

[obtuse quest]

We got keeper still trying to beat uberroth last I asked him

[thorn grove]

dw guys, i'll do it 😎 ||i wont||

[obtuse quest]

Try again when you can clear 5k corruption- (keeper’s current provable record)

[thorn grove]

how about 300

[obtuse quest]

🤣

[thorn grove]

i got all the patience in the world but at that high corruption a single like medium strength attack would ohk through even the toughest defenses

[opal ore]

Just play abomination and get 1.2 billion dps for free

[thorn grove]

"free" after spending 20 min in setup

[opal ore]

True, takes me around 3-4 minutes. But feels really good to 1 hit everything in the game the next 3 hours

8 hours*

Depends if people in #👥┃lfg need more carries. I only login to do carries now lol

[thorn grove]

doesnt it reset if you need to go to town or something?