📚┃off-topic

[sand wigeon]

It did for me

Anyway Deias and I just got done putting together some Magic decks

[twilit mountain]

(They are not good, we do not own enough cards to make good decks)

[sand wigeon]

Mine may be usable.

[junior oyster]

Bruh the minecraft horn in sonic crossworlds is so damn annoying

[opal flower]

Currently? Cyberpunk 2077

Great story, great gameplay, great world

[fierce moth]

Do you have something what you're the only owner?

I don't think I have anything what just me have 🤔

[twilit mountain]

Only? No. Very limited amount? Yes.
I have a few things of which only a few hundred were ever produced, most recently a plushie for the game Tiny Rogues (good game, very cheap, cool dev)

Anyways, have Nyx sitting in a recliner chair like he owns the damn thing

[junior oyster]

So many Ls man

Either I come in last and lose or I come in first and lose

Nevertheless I think I'm kinda addicted

Item bagging kinda sucks though

[twilit mountain]

It's nice to see people enjoying that tbh. Non-realistic racing games that aren't MarioKart tend to fly way under the radar

[junior oyster]

People save the best items for last (which I do understand)

[junior oyster]

It probably doesn't help that MKW has some things in the game that many didn't like

I loved MK8 but hated playing on the switch...

The buttons are far too small for me lol

[twilit mountain]

I just struggled really hard to use motion controls on something so small, and then joysticks feel very... idk, imprecise?

[junior oyster]

Ok I was confused for a while because your statement felt contradictory and then I realised you wrote imprecise lol

[twilit mountain]

Lol, my b, run into that a lot

[junior oyster]

Nah I'm just kinda tired

[maiden widget]

literally the best way to play those games imo, go with what you have and just play

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. I play on Arena regularly and I regularly get rather tilted after facing my 62nd opponent of the day running the same gods damned infinite token generating mono white deck with 3 Authority of The Consuls placed on turn 3 preventing me from playing the game

[maiden widget]

thats how a friend got me to just not care about playing magic with them

while i prepared fun stuff he did those let the other person not even play 1-2 turn combos

[twilit mountain]

Every time I face an Izzet control player I think my lifespan shortens by another week as my heart starts beating four times faster out of pure irritation

Counterspelling is the worst thing ever introduced to the game (no I don't care if it has been there from the start). I will not die on this hill, you will die fighting me on it

[junior oyster]

Lol wtf. I wish I could understand any of that but I kinda know the feeling in sonic cw with people bagging the important stuff

Like it doesn't matter if you are 1st place consistently in lap 1 and 2 but the moment you hit lap 3 and near the finish line? You getting megabonked

[sand wigeon]

Woof

[junior oyster]

I'm a relatively calm guy so internally I'm throwing my controller at my screen (idk which of the two screens though lol)

[twilit mountain]

That's kinda how my dragon deck works on Arena. You better kill me by like turn 6 or I'm dropping anywhere from 4 to 9 giant fking dragons that are all going to trigger 3-4 separate effects in a row and completely remove all your cards om board

[sand wigeon]

I always win

[twilit mountain]

No you don't, you hate that deck

[sand wigeon]

I win

[junior oyster]

Also this is pretty much my fav sonic cw song now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7RgsPDMkQ&list=PLcznZSn924Y9kzbmG2qkelbNtYZW7WZU8&index=44

Or at least one of my favs

[blissful token]

Can someone enlighten me on why games and films keen on using the same sfx like wilhelm's scream or the wind sound with specific wave length etc

[twilit mountain]

The first one is just because it's a "cultural touchstone" in a way. It's so baked into human art now that it's a "tradition" in a way. Idk the other thing you mean

[desert jasper]

Yeah
Everyone knows wilhelm scream

[blissful token]

feels overused to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJ37MVf16Y

^ wind sound effect

this place is giving me the legend of dragoon vibe

[fierce moth]

I just know gamescom have Asian version and its Asian version held in Singapore last year... It's in Thailand this year

3 days left before gamescom Asian 2025 live

[desert jasper]

Ah that wind

[sand wigeon]

As someone who has delved the great libraries of sound effects, it’s because that wind is very generally applicable, could easily be layered with other sound effects and is online for free.

That wind fits almost every environment.

It’s also very clear audio.

I am not a professional sound designer or anything, but I’ve tried finding good wind sounds before

[junior oyster]

I might have heard it in chrono trigger but can't remember

Hmm guess so lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QTXOrrRz2Y

Didn't even know it

[twilit mountain]

@mental talon I'm cooking something. I have no idea what.

[mental talon]

First step is the easiest (or something idk Im not a word smith)

[twilit mountain]

(Removing Sunblast, forgot it screws over charge gen)

YO WHEN DID THEY FIX SWIFT ASSEMBLY IN POB???

[mental talon]

You can maybe do something with the new belt (Arkhon's Tools I think) and like Reverse Chill Winterweave. Idk

[twilit mountain]

That's a cool idea, however, increased effect scorch

(and shock)

[mental talon]

Yeah Im trying to think of possible ways out Tempest SHield but no Scorch immunity

[twilit mountain]

I think I have found a bug. I do not know why this is affecting my mana regen.

Wait

Nvm

Got it

I'm just stupid

[desert jasper]

So what was the reason?
Please, share with the class

[twilit mountain]

Mystic Bulwark. I forgot it did that lol. I was just looking for a close mana mastery.

[desert jasper]

Ah, right

Thanks 👍

[twilit mountain]

https://pobb.in/0tv5uBeBToEz
Witness my cook (it's okayish!) @mental talon

[mental talon]

I'll check when I get home

[twilit mountain]

Swap shock ascend to convergence. Always forget it breaks with Skitters.

[fierce moth]

Cool, I screwed up the pattern by colours... No idea how to colour it to be 3d

[mental talon]

@twilit mountain I see a few tweaks Id make but I think you're pretty much on the right track (obviously)

[twilit mountain]

It's the years of coping with traps

[mental talon]

One thing you'll definitely want to take advantage of is Bonechill + Taste of Hate for free DR

[twilit mountain]

I don't think any trap will come close to Spiralrend traps though. Stupid-ass build.

[twilit mountain]

Ah, right. Forget that exists.

[mental talon]

Because the Chill Reversal + Bonechill on SKitterbots with Taste of Hate is just free DR

and Taste of Hate is basically pennies now

[twilit mountain]

Exactly why I forgot it exists

[mental talon]

I feel it lmao

The Golem Node is also better than having the Mana Mastery + Mana Regen

You lose about 8ish flat mana regen

But gain a bunch of flat ES, damage, and AoE

This thing is broken as shit tl;dr

Hold on let me tweak real quick

Hmm cant justify this nvm

https://pobb.in/XV7eN31eOMxK

Probably gonna need to link skitterbots to Enlighten and then get Unbound/Woke Unbound Ailments etc.

[twilit mountain]

https://pobb.in/rTJ4QsFMaVhU Enlighten is for nerds

[mental talon]

If it works, it works.

But yeah looks good

Now we wait for actual 3.27 news and I forget everything Im doing because theyre gonna buff the shit out of Assassin

(COPIUM OVERDOSE)

[twilit mountain]

Brother I can hear the ambulance already, take it easy

[mental talon]

It's coming. Trust

[twilit mountain]

This will be us in the next couple weeks imo

Accurate depiction as we go through notes line by line

[mental talon]

I'm feeling very We're So Back today, it's been a good day!

[sand wigeon]

I’m feeling Mixed state

[warped wren]

the last I played Assassin was back when Poison BV was an excellent build

[fierce moth]

Be woken up by meowing after slept 3h 😵

Yes, I guess she want me to prepare a nest for her upcoming kittens

[opal flower]

A couple pieces of art for sure.

[fierce moth]

Not a good thing when a cat with you so much...

She just want to go to my room instead of the nest I prepared to give birth.

🙏 Hope she going well

[desert jasper]

Last time I played assassin was in Settlers with mamba viper strike
It was great

[warped wren]

Mamba is great, yes

[fierce moth]

I checked out many illustrations from professional illustrators but I find I have zero interest for them. I just don't passionate at life as like as them...

[thin oyster]

For the doubters in chat

[fierce moth]

Oh...So food can have emotions (emojis) too

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMHWcfIYsX4
Why Gaming Is NOT a Waste of Time (The Mental Health Benefits & More)

Oh I need that.

[blissful token]

That reminds me of HealthyGamerGG channel

[fierce moth]

I respect every people who devoted their life to cook a game they want to play, they're deserved to be honoured because build an experience is an complicated system.

I just no....Not enough emotion for that yet. I still finding the answer of what games means to me.

It's just quite tricky and hard to convince myself focusing on gameplay instead of art style... Sorry

[fierce moth]

New senior concept artist I heard +1

Today is Lola (Yiting) Zhang. This artist are joining in Ghost of Yotei's art team. Have been a concept artist in NetEase since 2016. Graduated at ArtCenter College of Design.

https://www.artstation.com/lolazhang/albums/226097
None of characters they drew I can understand how to design. Out of my box.

lol this artwork inspired me of "I want to do a gothic cathedral painting like that"

Recinte Modernista de Sant Pau is a good reference 🤔

[fierce moth]

This world lose a talented person who explored how to heal people on mental..

🕯️
Who is him:
https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/nolan-williams

Such a pity that we can't know how he kill himself and why he made this decision 😞

[brittle dagger]

i like eggs

[fierce moth]

I just know a thing: What I like on milk tea is that mixed flavour from milk and tea and milk must over than tea, it's not relevant to which tea... It's just relevant to enough milk flavour or not. Whatever sweet food I ate, the essence is... I want to seek the milk flavour.

So I can't reject any dairy.

Unfortunately, Chinese dairy is surrounded by tea. Tea is the core. That's why I never happy with Chinese milk tea products.

The cheese foam is the only thing I enjoyed

Now yogurt, fruit juice and vegetable juice are becoming a new trend. I don't interested in them at all, due to this reason.

(I like original yogurt only. I can't understand why people want to add jams on that)

[sudden anchor]

I love to mix carbs with fat (and protein). Its the reason why nutmixs with raisins are successfukl

[fierce moth]

Raisin have been my snacks before but as I became older, I think it's too sweet

My flavour move from pure sweet to sour and sweet/bitter and sweet

The other reason I'm not a fan of raisins and nutmix is it's too dry

I like creamy stuff

European food especially French food like cooking with dairy, which is the reason I always want to try that

I'm quite tired at the world form of soy sauce

🥴 Alright may be the rule of "influence" is the next post must seldom to be viewed after last post are very popular. It's like a curve.

That's how it works for me, at least.

Figured it out. Contrast as you said + no focused objects.

It's the reason why I think 1st and 2nd one was a failure try. 3rd one, panini, have solved focused objects issue, but I don't control colours well.

No layout in 3rd one too. Graphics design/food photography needs layout.

Oh... Wait. I miss the most important thing. No mental stuff.

[blissful token]

i dont feel so gud about this

[desert jasper]

Oh that fight
It's a good one

You should feel good about it
It's not going to be regrets

[blissful token]

fun

got slammed got charmed

oo they are pretty easy to counter

got ballet'ed got dressed

the dress attack timing is super odd

[desert jasper]

Charming, I'm sure

[blissful token]

wadayamean Final Act begins...

[desert jasper]

It's the final countdown

[fierce moth]

🤔 The shape of confirm menu is special

[blissful token]

dedge

my expedition

[desert jasper]

Naturally
Time to go back at it wtih the best waifu Sciel

[blissful token]

she's benched to pluto

[desert jasper]

Shame

[blissful token]

somehow... this round i skipped the Final Act and she just dedge

poor benched sciel and her 120 points

[blissful token]

🍏 🥧 ?

[desert jasper]

Yes, apple pie indeed

[obtuse rune]

That looks quite tasty

[desert jasper]

It was
Tbh I don't really bake as much these days
ever since getting the diabetes diagnosis

[blissful token]

the ||Sciel x Verso|| thing feels weird out of the blue

[desert jasper]

The ||relationship|| thing?

[blissful token]

Yea, ||Sciel just throw fling|| outta no where, I would prefer ||Lune|| though but didn't thought these things are in the game

[desert jasper]

||Yeaa.. When you get to that point it's basically just the first one you talk to, apparently. Assuming they're on similar rank||

[blissful token]

ehh?

Well, I ||rejected|| Sciel

[desert jasper]

Should've gone with Esquie

[blissful token]

Dahell... Monoco with braids.. I like his moppy hair though

[blissful token]

Esquie

[blissful token]

[desert jasper]

Ez
Just become the parry king

[blissful token]

game sure knows what we want

i mean some wants feet for monoco, some wants Lune's feet.. Me want parries

[desert jasper]

Monoco is hilarious

And easily bribed with promises of violence

[blissful token]

gladly smash a building

[desert jasper]

Only if that building fights back

If not there's no point

[blissful token]

well gotta "show-off"

[gilded elm]

Art is subjective and I mean no offence to the artists who create LE cosmetics... but I'm surprised that LE cosmetics have been allowed to fail to meet player expectations for so long, with seemingly no lessons being learned between each cosmetic/supporter pack release.

[placid yarrow]

This might be the most on topic off-topic message I've ever seen lol

[gilded elm]

I'd pin this one more on marketing people, or management, than actual artists tbh.

[blissful token]

ooo

[gilded elm]

The news announcement got me thinking lol

[maiden widget]

I still wonder how much people spend in Poe just to not see anything either way during gameplay

[gilded elm]

And of course it's the same sentiment echoed loudly on Reddit.

[maiden widget]

But hey it makes the game free for me so I'm good

[placid yarrow]

Well a lot of the time people will get a supporter pack which comes with cosmetics just for the points so they can buy stash tabs

At least that's mostly the case for me

[maiden widget]

True but there's a lot of whales buying the big ass packs too

[placid yarrow]

True, but those you can see tbh

Enough cosmetics, especially the expensive ones. WIll be visible even with the most insane screen wide vfx builds

[maiden widget]

Yeah guess I'm in the minority liking actually real looking armour sets

[placid yarrow]

and obviously skill mtx will be visible

I mean I'd bet you're in the majority

I highly doubt the majority of people get more than like a few tabs if even

[blissful token]

all the pictos found in Visages are so dang powerful lol

[maiden widget]

Ive made a browser addon to check account values of people displaying bought packs - with sub 300 dollars I am in the minority of active players

[placid yarrow]

Is displaying them on by default?

if not then that data is insanely biased

towards people who whale out

[maiden widget]

Yeah it's opt out

[placid yarrow]

Huh interesting

I highly doubt the majority of the poe playerbase has spent more than 300 bucks

[maiden widget]

I mean it's not objective anyways but was crazy seeing people spending thousands

[placid yarrow]

But also it's the end of a league so maybe only dedicated players are playing currently

[maiden widget]

I kinda assumed most did get like 100dollars or so

[placid yarrow]

Honestly i'd be shocked by that too

[maiden widget]

But the game is also old so it's easy to spend

[placid yarrow]

I'd be surprised if it's over like 30 bucks

[maiden widget]

I mean we're talking about people commenting on the forums

[placid yarrow]

like average spent per account

[maiden widget]

So you don't get the AVG account anyway

[placid yarrow]

ahh

gotcha

[gilded elm]

As with most F2P games, I imagine the bulk of PoE's revenue comes from a very small portion of the playerbase, aka the whales.

[maiden widget]

But tbh I personally know guys who spent 2k on Poe while being on welfare

[placid yarrow]

yep

[maiden widget]

So whales gonna whale

[placid yarrow]

it's prob something like 5% of the playerbase spending 90% of the money, if not even more drastic

[maiden widget]

Their whole supporter pack game is just immensely fomo triggering for some people

[placid yarrow]

I mean those supporter packs do be dope tho

[maiden widget]

I didn't like any for years they're too flashy and gimmicky to me

Didn't even buy the space turtle as discworld fan

[gilded elm]

I'm not a fan of FOMO, it's psychologically predatory, but I wouldn't rank it too high on the evil scale.

There's much worse things they could be trying to monetize on.

[placid yarrow]

Meh to me it's a necessary evil

for poe's model

[gilded elm]

Yeah it could very well be. I think a lot of people wouldn't buy supporter packs at all if they were always available.

[maiden widget]

Yeah it's not evil it's just insane how it just works for some people

[placid yarrow]

Plus people like owning limited things

it gives it more value for them

[maiden widget]

I'd still love it if govts blocked in-game currencies

Just display real world pricing thanks

[gilded elm]

Limited could add a sense of value, but I do think the FOMO "I need to get this now or I'll never be able to get it" exploitation of psychology plays the bigger part.

[placid yarrow]

I think it's fine to have in-game currencies as long as it's just one and you can buy any amount you want. Plus no wonky or weird exchange rates

kinda like steam wallet funds

[placid yarrow]

Can't make something limited without having fomo tbf. Outside of putting it behind a massive challenge but that's not something you'd pay for

[gilded elm]

Yeah, and I can only speak from my own perspective as just another "fish" in the pond. I've probably spent thousands on PoE1/2 combined, but for me personally it was mostly a combination of FOMO and the fact that GGG makes supporter packs extremely enticing with currency.

Reinforcing the FOMO with "get currency equal to the cost of the supporter pack" is honestly brilliant lol

[maiden widget]

Isn't it similar here

[placid yarrow]

Honestly I think LE should make their supporter packs similar to Poe where you get the full value of the pack in points as well. Without that factor a ton of people won't get the packs

[maiden widget]

I thought I got currency with my capybara

[gilded elm]

I don't know if it is, but LE's core issue with MTX is that the vast majority of it is simply unappealing.

[maiden widget]

Yup I have like 600 coins but nothing seems worth it

[gilded elm]

FOMO works best when you actually have something people want.

[placid yarrow]

Since in Poe if you wanna spend let's say 30 bucks on stuff, you might as well get the 40 buck supporter pack for more value. (Just an example don't read into it too hard)

[maiden widget]

Gotta be fair though the biggest pack in LE is the second lowest in Poe in terms of money

[placid yarrow]

Yeah but the fact that Poe supporter packs give their full value in points makes them "practically free"

While LE packs don't

Like as long as you would've bought the points anyway for stash tabs and other cosmetics you might as well get all the supporter pack cosmetics as a bonus

Instead of buying raw points in poe

[maiden widget]

Looks like you even get points

[gilded elm]

Yeah, it offsets that sense of "I really shouldn't be spending this much on this thing" (which does actually look cool as well)

[placid yarrow]

Yes, my point is it's not the full value

[maiden widget]

It doesn't for me thankfully

[placid yarrow]

Like if I wanna spend 20 bucks on a cosmetic in LE I'm not buying the 40 buck supporter pack so I can get 20 bucks worth of points

The supporter pack cosmetics are a "bonus" in Poe. But in LE they're the main thing you're spending on

[maiden widget]

Seems weird but makes more sense why people spend a lot

Couldn't find the ratio for points as well is it 100:1$?

[gilded elm]

LE's problem is also more fundamental IMO. I think "I wanna spend 20 bucks on a cosmetic" is not even a question being asked by most LE players, at all. Simply because the cosmetics have historically, and continue to be, very unappealing as a whole.

[placid yarrow]

I agree with that too

[neon sigil]

Especially since you cant upgrade supporter packs. So if you buy a cheaper one you are "losing" even more if you upgrade.

[placid yarrow]

I do think their cosmetics are getting better but they aren't improving fast enough and we don't have enough of them

[twilit mountain]

Keep in mind these come with physical merch and the past couple years let you make a permanent mark on the game, even if minor

[gilded elm]

Yeah there's a big disconnect between EHG and the playerbase as to what makes a good looking cosmetic.

[maiden widget]

Yeah but you're also paying hundred+ for a shirt

Idk maybe my brain is weird

[neon sigil]

Cosmetics need more synergy than anything tbh.

The primal armour set and weapons is a good example of this.

A full set of gear and weappns.

Other cosmetics often have to be used with mismatched gear and thats unappealing.

[maiden widget]

Was always the more stingy type anyway

[gilded elm]

It's not any one thing, but a combination of everything. GGG's supporter packs are just layered with multiple things that "sweeten the deal" so to speak.

[twilit mountain]

Shirts*, and hoodies, and exclusive artbooks, and sometimes signed stuff like Wraeclast maps, etc

[maiden widget]

Maybe it'd be different if I'd feel like they still make the game for me

[twilit mountain]

It's much like buying the collector's editions of games in a way

[fierce moth]

👀 I asked for a le's artbook for a long time

[gilded elm]

I bought the most expensive pack for PoE2 launch and I still haven't actually looked at the artbook btw lol

Used the hoodie quite a bit though :P

[placid yarrow]

Yeah imo despite being more expensive Poe supporter packs just seem like way better value anyway. For me it's mostly the fact that you get the packs full value in points, which alone would make me be fine with buying a pack even if I don't really like any of the mtx it comes with. But if I do like some of the mtx that's even better. While in LE I'm buying the pack for the mtx, not the points

[mental talon]

You can also elect to not get the physical goods (which I have) and just get the points

[fierce moth]

I'll check it out immediately once I received on the opposite. Different logic we have

[mental talon]

So like the value is kinda stupid high depending on you as a person

[gilded elm]

Yeah, especially with their insane shipping partner. The prices to ship those physical goods from NZ (or whereever they were coming from) was just insane lol

[blissful token]

creepy..

[mental talon]

I already had access to the PoE 2 early access from years ago but I still bought a pack and just took the points instead of a shirt

[twilit mountain]

Wait y'all paid shippin on your physical goods?

I didn't

[fierce moth]

I wondered do Byte need to pay shipping fee for these physical producets

[maiden widget]

Lots of shipping and some misprints in my bubble made me not want to bother

Sometimes people didn't even get their shirt or hoodie and that was it

Kinda sucks for those prices

That was before their recent changes tho

[mental talon]

I just take the points personally I don't care too much about physical goods and shit I'm not a collector/physical goods enjoyer personally so I just dont

Also does LE give you full points for purchasing the same Supporter Pack and have the ability to upgrade to another tier just in the difference in price yet?

[maiden widget]

30e pack is 150 coins idk what the ratio is normally

Kinda tempted to get the ayn Thor handheld it looks nice but I don't need it

[neon sigil]

Babe, is everything alright? You've barely touched your bald green rock face.

[twilit mountain]

Nope and nope lol

[twilit mountain]

Fair enough. I really like collecting things in general, so they're a big draw to the expensive tiers to me. Back in rhe day I was tempted to get a higher tier LE pack for phys merch before that was shelved.

[mental talon]

Well yeah I'm good then lmao

[maiden widget]

I don't really have the space nor am I willing to clean it all up so I'm mostly without any merch at all

[twilit mountain]

Divine orb left out in the sun too long

[neon sigil]

It also has an eyeball in its mouth

[twilit mountain]

Scourge league

[fierce moth]

Collect things is a point in my blood so I will never touch mtx. Once you start the hunting, you just can't stop.

I'm a person who will select getting nothing or getting everything only. Get part of them only are too painful

[gilded elm]

Yes, Liberator of Wraeclast physical goods required a shipping cost (which depends on location of source and destination).

I say Liberator of Wraeclast, but it should be the same for any supporter pack that includes physical goods.

Some people had to pay over $100, some people only paid $20 (still a lot, IMO).

[twilit mountain]

Hm... strange. I never got charged for my shirt. Maybe a screw up on their end idk

[blissful token]

@desert jasper hella funny the masks bounce off Monoco cuz he's wearing his own mask

ayy

[gilded elm]

Could be that the shirt, hoodie and artbook don't all have the same shipping, dunno what could lead to shipping being free.

This was funny though

[junior oyster]

Wait EHG are asking players for cosmetic feedback? This will surely be good right? right? right?

[junior oyster]

Cause the delivery guy has to avoid all the Auzzie dangers like: spiders, sneks, crocs, roos, people, sun etc

[gilded elm]

True

[fierce moth]

Ah... So hoodies, shirt and artbook aren't free to deliver to you!?

[gilded elm]

Shipping physical goods in general, from any company, is rarely ever "free"

[junior oyster]

I wanted to buy the StS board game

[gilded elm]

There's a cost that has to be paid to the carrier service.

[junior oyster]

The shipping fee made me go nope

[fierce moth]

I have thought money you paid to the supporter pack includes shipping fee...

[junior oyster]

And then also you get taxed on goods coming from outside the country

Here in the UK at least

[gilded elm]

No, because the cost of shipping varies a lot based on where it's shipping from and to.

[fierce moth]

it's too scary

[warped wren]

operationally speaking, there is literally no way for GGG to include average shipping costs in the pack price and have it be sensible

[gilded elm]

Yep, it's not really practical since cost varies by weight, distance and local laws/regulations.

[junior oyster]

I also did the same thing with LE kickstarter where I declined phys goods for ingame shop curr

Oh wait nvm

That was a different game

[gilded elm]

I remember wanting to buy some merch... I think it was for official Expedition 33 merch, but I decided not to because the cost of shipping was like $50.

[junior oyster]

Nvm it did have phys t shirt and vinyl stickers as a reward

[fierce moth]

That's enough to force myself to make them by myself

[junior oyster]

So yea declined them for points

[fierce moth]

I see why EHG never release physical merchant now

[gilded elm]

I think this is what I wanted to buy at the time: https://www.expedition33.com/monolith-set

[junior oyster]

Pretty sure EHG did for their KS though

[junior oyster]

Damn it's the other way round

I thought it'd be shipping from US -> EU

[junior oyster]

All thanks to the annoying orange 😂

[gilded elm]

Yeah I refused to pay $50 shipping for a $120 piece of merch. No way I'm doing that, just out of principal alone.

[fierce moth]

Thanks for letting me know the value of skills which can make fan art by myself

[junior oyster]

Sure you can make something yourself but it's a different feeling to buy the official thing

[fierce moth]

Indeed, official's prove is the core

[maiden widget]

Reminds me of wanting to buy some vinyl osts but shipping from the us plus taxes just made me nope out

[gilded elm]

You also can't legally sell fan art without the copyright holder's permission.

If you made your own PoE artbook, you can't legally sell that without GGG's permission.

[fierce moth]

On the other hand, I wonder what the sense for GGG to hold special competitions to inspire players making fan art 🤔

[junior oyster]

Engagement

[gilded elm]

What Fane said, which is a form of marketing.

Engagement leads to promotion, which leads to marketing.

GGG is a business. The purpose of a business is to make money.

I like GGG and I like EHG. But I would caution against making the mistake of treating these businesses as your friends or as people who truly care about you.

[desert jasper]

Yeah, too many people think of businesses as friends or that they actually care about you
they care about your money

[ebon meadow]

At the end of a day we are just consumers of a product even if it's a game ,also GGG support digital fanart and art like HO completions and things ,builds of the week (at least before)

Bit yea u can always reach out and ask them if they allow u or want to support somehow a fanart

I like the announcement for the forum with feedback they might find some good artists. from EHG

[fierce moth]

I'm confused how to get money as an artist indeed...

The tricky part is how to sell myself

How to let customers believe your skills and willing to pay consistently

Different people have different flavors is a double-edged blade...

[ebon meadow]

It can be in form of sponsor or shout-out , just the company mentioning you in there post can be beneficial for artist

Both ways have their own benefit

[fierce moth]

How to price my artworks is the core

it's as same as I have no idea how to sell my gears in Poe 2 to get more currencies

People can teach you how to improve your skills but they will not share ways to get money from your works... Why are they share their ways to you for free?

[ebon meadow]

Poe trading is another thing lol ,it requires so much experience it's dumb to comprehend

U need game knledge u need to understand how every single update will affect what gear

Economy in softcore is yea...

[fierce moth]

that's a complicated system. But the real life just more complex

[ebon meadow]

I was going to say people that dumb don't "trade" in real life because they usually don't have money but I fastly realized the wrong there

Scams are a thing just because of it

[fierce moth]

People say luck is important to everything. But how to improve the luck?

In Poe 2, you have a clear goal, rarity of items and quality of waystones.

In real life, it maybe the trend of social, maybe a friend you knew from an event, maybe a random post you scrolled, may be a word you said in an interview... Possibilities are too much 🙃

[desert jasper]

You don't really improve luck

You can do things to get more people to see your art

[sand wigeon]

People mean it when they say you need to get lucky

[fierce moth]

I don't know what can I solve by my art.

What problems can I solve is what bosses care the most

[sand wigeon]

I’ve seen some extremely talented artists never become popular

[gilded elm]

What are you doing to learn this

[ebon meadow]

Been like that from very old times , writers , people that draw ,poetry ....

Its not only came with digital age

[gilded elm]

Do you have freelancer profiles on Fiverr, Upwork or Etsy? Have you put yourself in a position for people to consider hiring you for work?

[fierce moth]

I feel my fate is as similar as Vincent Van Gogh lol

[ebon meadow]

Holy

That's a jump

[sudden anchor]

Being an artist and able to live from it, especially online where youre competing against everyone, is close to Impossible. I would look for local skits and start to impress people around you until they wanna buy from you.

[ebon meadow]

Pretty accurate yep

[fierce moth]

I have lost US$250 because someone from Switzerland said he can pay for my art as the price I listed, but I need to pay US$250 for getting US$70 he paid. This fee will go back after I received US$70. That web is gone after I asked why I still don't get my money back for 3 days...

[desert jasper]

Sadly quite a lot of the artists that do make a good living out of their art (and aren't working for company) draw uhh.. very niche stuff that isn't provided by enough of people

[fierce moth]

That's a big lesson

[gilded elm]

"Knowing what people want" as a digital artist is, I presume, the easy part. You can simply go to any of the several online sites where digital artists are contracted for work and look at what people want.

Actually being hired, competing with other talented artists... that's the hard part.

[desert jasper]

Never do those "You need to pay this amount so I can pay you"

They're always a scam

Anyway, sorry to hear you got scammed

[fierce moth]

People on Fiverr want logo design. Lots of graphics designers on there

[ebon meadow]

Thousands of quick grab artist

When I was streaming I had people reache out like 5-10 times every single day

The worst part I can make what they can my self if I want to it's just it will take me huge amount of time

[gilded elm]

So you do know what "problems" exist which need to be solved, what people are hiring for. Are people with your specific skills being hired for work?

[junior oyster]

Ooof you got scammed hard

I feel sorry for you

[gilded elm]

If nobody is hiring people with your specialized skillset, I think that would be a red flag that requires seriously reconsidering your specialization.

[fierce moth]

All emails I received from the email address on Artstation are nft scammers. The same logic they follows, ask me to release my art as nft so they can buy my art. But I know the fee in nft platform is insanely expensive

[ebon meadow]

It is very similar to content creation , u might not have it in you and it's ok u are competing with people world wide

U can still make Ur own small community and just be happy with that

[junior oyster]

Nfts still exist?

[ebon meadow]

Yea

[sand wigeon]

Not really

[fierce moth]

The common of them is they want to hold an exhibition lol

[junior oyster]

Did you machine translate that or is that how it was sent?

[maiden widget]

it all reeks of scam

[junior oyster]

Because if it's the latter I really hate the sender

[maiden widget]

thats probably just automated messaging to get some people to pay for featuring

[sand wigeon]

Speaking of scams

[fierce moth]

And that

[sand wigeon]

I got sent this on one of my writing posts today lol

[junior oyster]

Not sure what the platform is but I'm assuming following means they get subs like on youtube/twitch?

[fierce moth]

I have learnt a bit on nft market while it's popular in 2021 so I don't believe them

[sand wigeon]

It's Tumblr

So no

[junior oyster]

I see

[ebon meadow]

No body does ,it's dumb

[junior oyster]

I've only seen tumblr posts on reddit like everything else lol

[junior oyster]

Except those who get scammed ofc

[ebon meadow]

I mean there always be desperate people and also people that don't understand how others can be harmful ( usually it's elders )

[sand wigeon]

I assume they'd try to get me to click on a link or pay them for advice or whatever

[ebon meadow]

Scamming is probably second most old way of profiting

[fierce moth]

yes, I need a new direction and a clear plan to reach the new goal. I'm still thinking which direction available to go

[ebon meadow]

Can't really name the first one

[fierce moth]

None of them welcome junior persons so... It's back to the problem. What do I want to do in my life

I answered this question publicly already

HR must ask why are you apply for xxx. You must give a solid motivation

😂 Think how to answer potential questions from an interview means I must think what type of people I'm. I must learn myself well at first

[sand wigeon]

Or you just lie

[fierce moth]

lol you know I can't lie

[sand wigeon]

I think you should learn then

[fierce moth]

Yes, I must learn how to wear a mask... 🙃

[sand wigeon]

Indeed

[gilded elm]

Everyone should learn how to put on a mask in the real world. That's the world we live in. You're vulnerable without a mask.

[sand wigeon]

Mm.

It's just part of being an adult, even if it's sad.

[maiden widget]

welcome to any job

[ebon meadow]

Yep

[sudden anchor]

Wax blockchain is basically free, except tge inflationary model and bad management by the developers making the price of your wax token go down with time. But the system is nice - you stake wax, get cpu allocated to your staked account and you can do transactions for free. Similar with ram, you need to buy it, but you can sell it again (we are talking about cents you need to buy - idk 5 cent would probably make you able to mint a few nfts)

[ebon meadow]

U don't need to lie u just need to exaggerate a lil

[sand wigeon]

Kirra, do not get got by crypto and nftbros

Do not get into crypto or nft's

They're both scams

[desert jasper]

Wearing a mask is necessary
It can be very exhausting

[sand wigeon]

And if it isn't, it's a sign you have something else going on mentally

[fierce moth]

😂 .... 💯

[sand wigeon]

(Such as me, I have sociopathy from quite a few different things.)

[desert jasper]

Especially autists struggle with it

These days I just stopped caring enough

[fierce moth]

The mask is "how to act like a normal people"

[sand wigeon]

Or just being social when you aren't a social person, or giving excuses that aren't necessarily true, etcetera

[gilded elm]

What you think is normal is just the mask that people wear.

We're all playing the same game.

[sand wigeon]

That's not true.

[desert jasper]

Well, not really normal people
But more like "I'm interested in the company and the company business. I am a social person"

[sand wigeon]

I have no problem being social, I love small talk, I love idle conversation, etcetera

Plenty of people put on masks just to get through that stuff, though

Some people are in fact Just Like That

[fierce moth]

Oh... 2 masks I need now.

[gilded elm]

I'm wearing a mask right now. What you see from me in this chat is not who I am without my mask.

[junior oyster]

Hollow mask or the green mask 👀

I vote hollow mask

[desert jasper]

That makes 2 of us

At least 2 of us

[sand wigeon]

Same here, I'm friendlier than usual here

That's just part of being in a social space

[junior oyster]

I only reveal tidbits about myself here and irl to people. I always wear a mask. Introvert things

[desert jasper]

Normally I don't really have patience and don't indulge people

[desert jasper]

Introvert here too.
but I do have people who are close to me that do know how I am

[junior oyster]

Also my nickname here has meaning to it

[sand wigeon]

What's being an introvert like, by the way?

[junior oyster]

In D:OS2 Fane hides his real identity with a mask

[gilded elm]

Vitamin D deficiency, mortal fear of engaging with people offline etc

[sand wigeon]

It sounds really easy, I'm NGL

[junior oyster]

I'll talk to people if they talk to me or I know them well enough. Otherwise I kinda just nod at most to say hello/interact

[sand wigeon]

That's just being shy, no?

Not necessarily introverted?

[fierce moth]

You have friends in real life, right

[desert jasper]

You don't need to be shy to be introverted.

[gilded elm]

Some, not many. But only 1 or 2 of my friends actually know who I am, in a meaningful way.

[junior oyster]

Dunno tbqh

I also fear talking to people too so I think it fits the introvert?

[sand wigeon]

Introversion vs Extroversion vs Ambiversion is about actual energy expenditure and gain

[sand wigeon]

Introverts don't fear talking to people, that's just social anxiety, no?

[fierce moth]

No way available for me to have a friend in real life so I chose to expose myself on the internet

I just do what can I do

[sudden anchor]

Introverts dont fear it, thats social anxiety i think. Introverts just dont care to share their thoughts as much

[sand wigeon]

I'm sure a lot of introverts have social anxiety, but I don't think social anxiety is a requirement

[gilded elm]

Shyness, social anxiety feed into and reinforce introverted thinking.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

Introversion specifically refers to feeling more energetic and less drained when spending time alone, doing your own thing

Whereas extroverts need to be social for that energy gain

Ambiverts can do both and be fine

[desert jasper]

I'm not shy
I just don't feel the need to be social really

[junior oyster]

This kinda fits to who I am ngl.

[sand wigeon]

For example, I feel really groggy and drained if I don't talk to a few different people in one day

I need to do activities with people to feel energetic

[junior oyster]

I'd rather be left alone most of the time

[gilded elm]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but the human need to socialize feels very ingrained and IMO "don't feel the need to be social" could be potentially attributed to a deeper, buried trauma.

[fierce moth]

I just feel I'm drained if I must stay in an environment which full of noise and people because of something can't be avoided like family gathering.

I'm fine if I can act freely

[sand wigeon]

I'd describe myself as an ambivert, but I feel cooped up very easily

[sand wigeon]

That sounds like you have autism lol

Just because of the noise comment

[junior oyster]

Yea fair.

[gilded elm]

Even introverts want companionship and social interaction. Think of siblings.

[fierce moth]

Yes I like sharing my thinking online so much

[sudden anchor]

Whats stopping you from feeling free in social settings?

[desert jasper]

I'm perfectly fine with being left to my own things
I do seek social stuff when I feel like I need it
but it drains my 'battery' very fast

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, that sounds like textbook introversion.

[fierce moth]

I think they're not relevant to my life. I just want to go somewhere relevant to my thinking/my interest

[junior oyster]

Anyways I've been feeling down since the last few runs in StS have been nothing but L's

[gilded elm]

Only your own personal interests? What about the interests of others in a social setting? Don't you want to explore that?

[junior oyster]

I love the game but every loss makes me close the game. Only to reopen it a minute later

[sand wigeon]

Now, I've never had IRL friends outside of Deias (who lives with me, so I'd still say it's a different dynamic) so I can't tell how that'd affect my energy or anything

[junior oyster]

My only friends irl are my coworkers (like 3-4 I get along with) and we very rarely meet up outside of work

[sand wigeon]

It's very difficult to meet people thanks to the erosion of social spaces

[fierce moth]

They have masks. I never have a chance to see their real shapes under masks. So it's hard to believe people

[sudden anchor]

Its a challenge for me to feel truely free to show my emotions, be vulnerable, but i desire to make it work. Its totally the western society too tho, not just a me problem.

[sand wigeon]

I want to keep playing Expedition 33 but Deias broke my controller

[fierce moth]

Don't test humanity is the most safe way

[gilded elm]

You seem introverted and that's not necessarily a bad thing on its own, but it can be a bad thing when your introversion deprives yourself of potential opportunities to expand your social circle, forming connections, creating a network.

[fierce moth]

lol a silly question pop out then. How to act like an extrovert people

🤔 it'll be the 3rd mask

[gilded elm]

Yes, everyone wears a mask to an extent. But that's not a good reason to simply avoid forming connections with "strangers" entirely. Masks don't come off instantly, it's usually something that slowly comes off through enduring relationships.

[desert jasper]

Yeah
A lot of people have 3 masks
the one for public, one for friends
and then there's the you that you show to close friends

[fierce moth]

I done the last thing directly here lol

[gilded elm]

Just because people wear a mask in public, that is not a good reason to stop trying to form connections with people, IMO.

[desert jasper]

It's visible
And you probably shouldn't
We might not have your best interest in mind. I mean, I do
And we can't help with your depression.
It's also a "little" too much for some places to say you don't want to live

It's still a good idea to try and make connections with people

This is a public area after all

[fierce moth]

Yes only myself can help myself at the end

I want to help people who suffered from depression too but I need to heal myself at first

[desert jasper]

Well
Essentially yes
A psychologist can help you find the way
but in the end it must come from within you

[fierce moth]

Make a connection is easy but keep a connection is hard Most people will not remember you if you don't have enough interaction with them

I'm stick on how to make a comfortable interaction with them (It's comfortable for them)

[desert jasper]

I have people I talk with only a few times an year
My brother included.

[gilded elm]

I mean, I remember you. Why do you think that is?

[sudden anchor]

Kirra is the reason im here almost daily haha

If you showed your real self more and especially to more people irl, same reactions would happen i think

[gilded elm]

You seem to have the social energy to form connections here. Take that energy and apply it to your real life. I know, it's not the same thing because there are layers of separation, but the human connection is still the same.

[desert jasper]

Also for most people connection over the internet isn't the same as in real life

Sure, it helps
But it can't fully replace it

[gilded elm]

I agree, the only cases where my online friendships became something truly meaningful is when it crossed the boundaries of real life, even if I don't meet them IRL.

I've also met quite a few online friends IRL and those are the friendships of mine which end up being very important to me.

[desert jasper]

I got to know a guy on a memesite because we had similar hobbies and we lived somewhat close to each other
Have met him & his gf, their friends since then
Good people
We hang out every wednesday to play stuff together

[sudden anchor]

@placid yarrow

Thanks

[abstract karma]

these gaming IRL friendships are rare tho..

You need 3 things:

1. Close location or Willingles to travel futher to meet up
2. As you write bunch of hobbies which group enjoys
3. Overcome Introvert fears

[gilded elm]

Yes, they are rare. That's why it's important to try and form connections with people in your vicinity.

The point was mainly (not sure if it's the same for nub), that online friendships are more meaningful when they become IRL friendships.

[desert jasper]

Oh we don't meet in real life for the games
But we all do live in same timezone and could technically meet whenever, we've done that a few times

They actually came over here to hang out with me & check out the city last spring
Showed them the local military museum and stuff

[fierce moth]

The habit formed from high school...|| I'm isolated by classmates so I can use "keep finding and asking questions" way to get attention from teachers because no classmates want to answer my questions. ||Then... I bring this trauma to the internet.

People loves answering questions because it let them feel good. I grab this weakness all the time then it push me to form the logic of thinking why xxxx work in xxx way (I enjoy asking questions and see how people answer them. It's an exchange between different logics). The side effect? Overthinking too much.

[desert jasper]

A lot of people don't realy love answering questions or it doesn't make them feel good
It makes them question you, more specifically

[fierce moth]

Edamame. 😂

No idea which magic it have

[desert jasper]

Never even heard of that before.

[fierce moth]

Just edamame. I have no idea why it's tasty. Maybe Mike was questioned why I ask which snack is his favourite one

[desert jasper]

Really first I just thought you spelled "edam" (the cheese) wrong

[junior oyster]

Poison really feels satisfying

[neon sigil]

why does this feel like a linux distro.

[desert jasper]

It's just regular ol' slay the spire

And yeah, poison is satisfying when you get it properly rolling

[junior oyster]

Poison + discard + wraith form

Also lots of energy

[fierce moth]

🤯 Kakao is a social media in Korea, so kakao games...is an attached company of this group company?

My Jesus... Oh my god

That's true

lol....My Jesus, I never know this layer. Make sense on why CO can get lots of paid players through discord in a short time

It have kakao talk, kakao map, kakao T, kakao games... This mode looks quite familiar... Tencent is in the same way

I never know the behind of Chrono Odyssey is quite solid

[blissful token]

Hmm... silently judging nub

Well Kakao doesnt have a good reputation like most korean studios/companies. They are cash-grab. I did mention before last time and being sceptical when the game release. You can sort of guess whats gonna happen with the cash shop

[fierce moth]

This company is as same as a slang here, 大厂. On its status

My meaning of 大厂:
Giant scale of business types, huge profit from their products but bad reputation in social medias.
Good things:
Excellent salary
Multiple convenient work additions
Free transportation (commuting) and relocation (renting)

Bad things:
Potential office politics
Heavy pressure from projects and communications
Huge workflow and hurry deadlines

[desert jasper]

by all means

[fierce moth]

I'm surprised Korean companies have common with Chinese companies

Kakao talk looks better than Wechat? I don't understand Korean unfortunately

Ok another try. No idea will something happen or nothing happen.

[fierce moth]

lol very understanding. Just like how Chinese deal with games from Tencent/Netease

hah I enjoy finding these hided connections from different countries so much East Asian countries are a loop

[blissful token]

Duet Night Abyss in 2 weeks. Gonna see how this anime warframe game is

[fierce moth]

No idea why Kakao games want to set paid contents in their server through they can't get money from discord server

I never see a server's value is in this level before I know CO

[fierce moth]

<@&1161418687471956101> the same spam in all channels.

[junior oyster]

Hidden?

[tawny sand]

the only thing i know about Kakao is they used to publish black desert, but Pearl Abyss started publishing it themselves in the west

at least i think so

i remember something about having to migrate accounts cause they dropped kakao

[tawny sand]

I'm curious about that one too

andother game i have on my checklist is Where Winds Meet

WWM is interesting cause it seems to have a singleplayer offline component as well as an online mode where you can co-op with friends, as well as pvp's guilds etc.

but seemingly you can do the majority of the game singleplayer

i didn't really fully understand though tbh

it's free-to-play tho so might as well check it out

oh actually i'm not sure if the singleplayer is offline or if it requires a connection but yeh

[muted parrot]

FAQ on their dc says no offline mode for WWM

[tawny sand]

ah ok

so it's still online even in singleplayer

[muted parrot]

Yeah. Would be crazy to have full offline mode in such a big free to play game where main monetization is cosmetics

[tawny sand]

true

[muted parrot]

Imagine LE without the initial price. They are struggling with it so it would be 💀 without it^^

I wonder how these two games are gonna be doing tbh. I don‘t think DNA will struggle, they have a good amount of fanservice already in the game and that alone will sell (even tho I don‘t like it)
But WWM idk. I hope it thrives. It’s also very unique but rather niche I guess. I wasn’t in the beta but I‘m sure I‘ll like it

[tawny sand]

yeah dunno, i didn't hear about WWM till a few days ago

looks cool though

i really like the setting, that chinese fantasy martial arts wuxia stuff

[muted parrot]

it reminds me of Nioh 2 in a lot of ways. Combat will prolly not be as satisfying as Nioh but I think it'll be a great open world RPG experience

[fierce moth]

! https://store.steampowered.com/sale/nextfest

[fierce moth]

Ok that's all about similar ARPG like le. Light Odyssey is a special one becuase it's focus on boss combats

Hah? The concept is cool but I don't see much gameplay here

At least the dev let me click the game lol

Oh rustlake release a demo for the new game

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3590810/Moonsigil_Atlas_Demo/
Oh I guess slay the spire fans maybe interested in this game.

I attracted by the unique concept "piece these polygons to attack"

[placid yarrow]

Oh nice next fest started

[tawny sand]

i tried out taven keeper speaking of next fest, think it's gonna be pretty good

[sudden anchor]

Trying out wow on the rog ally soon. Ive asked gpt for addons, console port and immersion seem like a must, but is someone using something else themself?

[twilit mountain]

Mate, why don't you like, go ask people who play the game? Streamers, forums, subreddits, Discord communities, literally anything other than a god damn AI

[sudden anchor]

? Im doing that rn.

[blissful token]

seems like a perfect outfit for this conversation

[desert jasper]

It is

[blissful token]

i keep dying to monoco, nub

nvm i got him

gotta play perfectly copium, i die in 1 hit

wait... Esquie is a ||wine barrel||?

[obtuse rune]

Forgive me for I do not know what this is supposed to be

[twilit mountain]

I'm guessing medieval torture /s

[vagrant topaz]

Matcha whisk ?

[twilit mountain]

Probably that yea

[obtuse rune]

OOOOH

I was focused on the bottom thinking it was a container and not a holder

Don't mind meee

[fierce moth]

Vlad is intelligent

Nothing can escape his eyes

[twilit mountain]

It's the vampirism

[vagrant topaz]

You have to be quick if you want to drink nice fresh blud

[blissful token]

Give him 🌞

[desert jasper]

Yes
||only the best wine||

[blissful token]

I think i am reaching the end

[fierce moth]

blud?

[blissful token]

hmm only Expedition 0 reached the monolith huh

[twilit mountain]

Blood

[tawny sand]

why am i playing black desert again

[twilit mountain]

Poor choices

[tawny sand]

my life is poor choices, makes sense

[blissful token]

nub, technically, the Lumina Converter has the same power as ||One for All|| right? If you know ||Hero Academia||

[desert jasper]

Once again
I've not played expedition 33

[fierce moth]

? I thought you have completed 33 so Wicked keep sharing experience with you

[blissful token]

nub watched his friend play

maybe not the whole thing

[desert jasper]

I watched like
maybe total 2hours? here and there

Enough to know character names and see a few bosses

[vagrant topaz]

You are know a reddit expert of the game

GG !!

[desert jasper]

You don't need to insult me like that

[fierce moth]

😂 😂 😂 Ok I learnt something: EHG don't assume anything.

[blissful token]

Generally, you shouldn't assume everything?

[sand wigeon]

I assume everyone else is wrong and I am right, and so far, I’m always right.

[fierce moth]

I assume everyone else is right and I'm wrong, and so far, it's always unexpecting.

[neon sigil]

I like trains.

[junior oyster]

Asdfmovie

[fierce moth]

I want to design a food acrylic painting, it's my sketch.

The food I focused is matcha cheesecake. I'm stick on which scene should I and strangers expect to see outside the window... 🤔

Plus: I always think my lines looks quite childish... What's wrong 😂

[ebon meadow]

F ,back to the beach

[neon sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-iliketrains-trains-gif-4905803

[fierce moth]

Oh I can turn off them to reduce density of ai-generated pictures, cool

[desert jasper]

Only works on things that are tagged as AI
but it shouldn't be too hard to tell it's AI

[vagrant topaz]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1913120/Tears_of_Metal/

Steam

Tears of Metal

Tears of Metal is a medieval hack-and-slash co-op roguelike. Carve through hordes of enemies to reclaim your island with the help of your formidable Scottish battalion. As you advance deeper into the trenches, uncover more about the mysterious Dragon Meteor and the treacherous enemy invasion.

RECONQUER YOUR ISLAND…

Release Date

2025

▶ Play video

Just stumbled upon this

There is a demo

Its pretty fun

Its like a rogue like/muso

[twilit mountain]

Stop sending fun looking games, you ass

[vagrant topaz]

Its not out yet

And they are all scottish

Love it

[twilit mountain]

You're selling me on it

[sand wigeon]

oh i thought it was a management game

[vagrant topaz]

It has some light manager element

Like what type of army you bring

What captain

[sand wigeon]

give me mgs5 base upgrades

[vagrant topaz]

what buff you give them

[fierce moth]

Hah English social medias are quite wonderful because I don't see any vlogs about "how a technical artist in a UK game company/how a senior software engineer in google/how a concept artist in EA spend a day".

They're good on boosting my negative mood. "How to do that in photoshop/how to make this animation in blender/how to paint this oil painting" replace them.

[sand wigeon]

I mean

Those are definitely out there

It’s called an algorithm

But most devs do not like their jobs

Especially if they work for a big business

It’s why promotion like that is primarily done by indie devs

An EA devs day consists of 20 emails per hour and never getting any real work done because their lead hasn’t given them the go ahead

[twilit mountain]

That or an exhausted lead/director walking into the room barely holding back the urge to punch a hole in the wall and alerting everyone they need to scrap the past 18 months of work/add in thirty thousand microtransactions and remove basic features

[sand wigeon]

Real

Meanwhile we have “HI, I’M AUSTIN!” appearing in random indie studio shorts

[twilit mountain]

Dear, [GAME STUDIO]
HI! I'M AUSTIN
BOOM, BA-DUMDUM BUM

[sand wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/emil-sinclair-sinclair-limbus-company-limbus-sinclair-limbus-gif-3742739908516306984

I know it doesn’t embed but it was the best response I could think of

[fierce moth]

....??????? What? 🤣
I have shared her cathedral project here and I played solstice because of her artwork.
#📚┃off-topic message
The past message I sent.

(I still struggling my neo-gothic in that time)
Now... She's an environment artist in EHG.

... This world is a loop.

[fierce moth]

Now I'm hyped for seeing how she cooks le's version of gothic cathedral

I want to make another duel about this topic. Gothic cathedral in le VS Gothic cathedral in Poe 2

The most interesting theme I can think

[junior oyster]

Nothing beats d2 cathedral in act 1

Especially in the d2r version

[gilded elm]

Warhammer 40,000 has the best gothic architecture IMO

From one of the official illustrators: https://www.instagram.com/p/C0PSkh3t6C6/

[lyric herald]

Good evening, I recently downloaded the game through Steam, but it's been crashing a lot, both on the home screen and in-game.
I've already disabled AMD Adrenaline Support, but the same crash persists.
My PC has 8GB of video,
16GB of RAM and an i7.
I was playing version 1.0 and it runs at full speed.
I don't know why it's crashing in version 1.3. Could it be the internet connection?

[blissful token]

LE seems to be slightly more active on FB posting now 🤷🏻‍♂️

[blissful token]

The number of peepo in this server dropped ~2k since Kirra's last update

<@&1161418687471956101>

Whew swift

[warped wren]

just Darktide things

criminally underrated game

[gilded elm]

I don't play Darktide, but that looks amazing. Very good adaptation of 40k.

[warped wren]

these are all from the environment: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/DvNAE9

you can actually see this stuff as you play

[gilded elm]

I might have to try it. I'm a giga 40k lore fan, seeing stuff like this makes me happy

GW needs to hire this Joakim Ericsson dude for official art

[neon sigil]

Redid the chest piece

[fierce moth]

🤔 Knowing linkedin learning for the first time but it don't support subscription from China mainland lol

[fierce moth]

Thanks for sharing, I like it so much.

It combines gothic catherdral with steampunk, sci-fi and... The element Ave asked before, looks very epic

Forget the word

[fierce moth]

Fine, I can't remember that

[stoic warren]

New feature from Discord

[sand wigeon]

It's not new. They've been slowly rolling it out for the better part of a year.

[placid yarrow]

I mean I'd say that's new

Especially if it's still being rolled out

[sand wigeon]

It's old news, is what I meant.

[placid yarrow]

Ah fair

[sand wigeon]

I'm annoyed I don't have it yet, though.

[fierce moth]

What do you mean

[sand wigeon]

You can display favorited games.

It's called a "profile board."

[fierce moth]

Oh I confused why I don't have one too

[sand wigeon]

It's rolling out slowly. Some people get it before others do.

I just got it lol

Seems like they're rolling it out to most people now. Should just need a client restart.

[fierce moth]

Topic: #❔┃ask-the-community message
🤔 Oh so the real time for me on learning English is 6 years+
I didn't know what lmao means and why people repeat a letter in a word in 2019. That was quite funny hhhhh

[sand wigeon]

You can learn English much faster than that with proper lessons.

Texting people through Discord is an alright way to learn conversation English, but as a native speaker, I can still very much tell that you don't know English well. That's not a bad thing, knowing even a little of multiple languages is impressive, but some proper lessons would help.

It can be really hard to converse with people here given the slight language barrier of so many people not... knowing English very well. (Which also creates a recursive loop where you all worsen each other's English. It's a studied effect, people with similar levels of improper English will actually understand each other fine because they make the same mistakes, it's an algospeak all its own.)

[fierce moth]

yes, money power. I get what you mean, the best way is learn a subject in an university of different countries

It will be trained lots of skills

[sand wigeon]

I wouldn't say university is very necessary

Especially for learning languages

[fierce moth]

Learn languages = learn cultures

[sand wigeon]

If you want to get a graduate level understanding, sure, but the majority of people have no use for a graduate understanding of English

[sand wigeon]

I wouldn't say this is true for English

English is used in so many extremely different cultures that it rarely tells you anything

Dialects tell you about culture, but that's not English as a whole

A person from Alaska and a Scottish person have very different cultures after all

Each region of Australia has a different culture, each state of the USA has a different culture, each region of Canada etc etc

[fierce moth]

I use English as a tool of learning different cultures

[sand wigeon]

The same way I use guns, sure

[fierce moth]

I think I will never can touch their cultures if I never in their regions. It's the sense of travelling.

[sand wigeon]

If you enjoy traveling, I suppose

I personally have no desire to visit anywhere

[fierce moth]

I personally have no desire to stay anywhere for decades

[sand wigeon]

That implies I'll live for decades

[fierce moth]

I don't get the twist

[sand wigeon]

The way you worded your response implied you were mentioning my desire to, well, stay some place for decades. I then joked that I won't likely live for decades.

(Because I likely won't)

[fierce moth]

Yes? Me too, so I don't want to be limited in a place

[sand wigeon]

You do you

I'm just a homebody

I feel connected to the place I've been my entire life, I've never left it, I have no desire to leave it

[twilit mountain]

Move enough and you just get used to it

[sand wigeon]

True

Plus, the life of a writer like me isn’t exactly a traveling life

The life of an artist isn’t exactly a traveling life, that reality is long dead

[fierce moth]

I'll go to play the snow and try skiing at first. If I can wear a goggles.

[sand wigeon]

Ugh

I hate snow

It’s awful

[desert jasper]

Can't wait for when we get snow this year

[sand wigeon]

I can

I can wait

I can wait as long as possible

[fierce moth]

I'm melt by the sun and humid environment for decades. I want cold and dry environment

[sand wigeon]

I’ve never been in a cold and dry environment lol

The existence of snow implies wet

@twilit mountain you’ve lived cold places, have you ever been in a dry cold

I can’t think of anywhere that is cold and dry

The cold inherently breeds humidity, whereas the heat inherently generates dryness

This is only untrue for hot places that are composed of mostly groundwater, like marshes

Which is where we get humid heat from

Since there’s just so much water evaporating

Apparently I’m in a ranty mood thanks to exhaustion.

[twilit mountain]

North Carolina's bad winters are that

[sudden anchor]

Isnt it drier in winter and thus people get sick more often - bc the airways dry out more, leaving gaps for invaders.

[sand wigeon]

I live on the coast

Anyway I hate winter because snow slush dirt mixtures are gross, shoveling feet upon feet of it is annoying, I don’t like when it blocks the entryways, the road salt erodes cars, it makes all the timber wet as hell, going on walks is annoying because you have to trudge through mentioned feet of snow, anytime I come inside from the snow I have to deal with the water my clothes leave behind

And there’s likely many more reasons

Snow is one of those things where it’s only nice in Hallmark movies and to people who don’t live in snowy places.

[placid yarrow]

When it gets cold enough it also gets very dry. It's only still humid when it's a little under freezing, and then it gets more dry the lower you go usually

And yeah generally it gets more humid the warmer you go since the air can hold more water at higher temps. The only reason it wouldn't be humid when warm is because there's just no water around in general, which would mean you're just in an arid environment, which can be cold or warm. it's not like the water just disappears because it's above a certain temp

Like it basically just can't be humid at below negative 20c

[tawny sand]

snow sucks

[placid yarrow]

A little snow is fine

When it's to your waist it sucks lol

[tawny sand]

i live in the southern us, nobody knows what to do with snow lmao

and usually it just turns into slush/ice

we did have those crazy storms last year tho

[placid yarrow]

Yeah that sucks to drive on for sure. We have good infrastructure here to deal with it though thankfully

(I live in Sweden)

[tawny sand]

I have a shelf made by the swedish, it's a good shelf

from the fair lands of Ikea

and i've driven in sweden a couple times (in eurotruck sim)

[placid yarrow]

Which city?

[tawny sand]

i don't remember tbh, it's been years since i played ETS

i'm not sure what cities are in it

[placid yarrow]

Fair

[twilit mountain]

I have lived in places with various amounts of snow in my life and I know that I hate it

When I was very young I lived in a part of Buffalo that didn't get much of it. Then from around 6 or 7 to 14 I lived near Lake Erie so I constantly got lake effect snow; worst I ever saw was about 6.5-7 feet, give or take. Cars were covered, roads were useless. Nobody left their houses for like, a solid week and a half.
Then I lived in NC for roughly 7 years, only saw snow a few times there. Lotta ice though. Still suffered from my issues with cold. Now I've been in Maine for a little over two years. Snow isn't actually too bad. Exists for a few months, sometimes a few feet, but usually not terrible.

[placid yarrow]

Yeah 7 feet would be extreme where I used to live and unheard of where I live now but I did live a bit further north a long time ago where it wasn't super crazy and almost moved way north where it would basically be every winter. But as mentioned we have good infrastructure here for it so even with that amount of snow the roads get cleared, worst case is if you have a private road or a long driveway you gotta clear by yourself, but there's often at least one person with a truck and plow that'll help out

[twilit mountain]

Aye. Infrastructure can make a world of difference for sure. Snow gets handled fairly well here usually. Buffalo not so much. NC not at all, they get like an inch or two and shut everything down lol

[fierce moth]

I don't think the quantity of supporter packs in le can reach that...My Jesus. What a rich player is

[twilit mountain]

I'm not even sure if that's all of them, pretty sure there's more

I only have like 3 or 4 badges on my profile I think

[neon sigil]

revisited some old pieces and tried to adapt em to the current project. Hopefully they look good in the end.
Also new sword. :V

[fierce moth]

No idea which one is top 2-10 in poe 2 fan art competition, but I think it will top 1

Credit: Asasano#3034

I still cooking my trash acrylic painting to have fun and relax my brain lol

Traditional painting is much more spirit-consuming because every strokes must paint by myself, no possibilities to be lazy so I think it's harder than digital art

Unstable hands brings me lots of trouble...

[twilit mountain]

Asala has such a dogshit design and I will not change my mind

[fierce moth]

I think handmade stuff is the thing AI will never replace. Traditional painting is one of them

[warped wren]

"But booba!" - every ARPG player ever

[elfin stream]

the chafing... good god the chafing...

[warped wren]

Everybody knows female attire in fantasy settings does not care for such petty, mortal concerns

[mental talon]

tl;dr Mercs getting rebalanced and added to core in later league

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3867394

[twilit mountain]

No more free -200 lightning res

Probably a good thing

[warped wren]

Excited for mercs with 0% negative res who wear generic animate guardian gear and die a quarter of the way into the map

[mental talon]

People were saying it'd be cool if the fused Mercs with like Metamorph and basically build a Merc enemy and I thought that sounded pretty lit NGL. But we'll see in 3.28 or whenever they come back

[fierce moth]

Ohhhh interesting

[twilit mountain]

The slab

[placid yarrow]

It's the handle of a knife I made

@obtuse rune @potent dew

[blissful token]

it is a club

[placid yarrow]

Lol

[obtuse rune]

That's actually super cool

Heeeeeck yeah man.

[twilit mountain]

Creature obliterator

[fierce moth]

Show the whole knife please

[placid yarrow]

I don't have a picture of the whole thing sadly, the blade is pretty short, it's a wood carving knife

If I find it at my parents when I visit I will

[potent dew]

An interesting handle style, like a plunge handle almost. What blade type?

[placid yarrow]

It's got a sick leather/wooden sheathe with my initials stitched in it

[placid yarrow]

Very similar to this basically

[fierce moth]

Oh I see. Basic knife

[placid yarrow]

I had to form the blade entirely with hand tools lmao

No power tools because I was too young to be trusted with them

I ground and sharpened it for hours and hours

[fierce moth]

The blade is hard to deal

There's an American tv show for forging different weapons, includes knifes like that but a lot more complex, it's as 1st part of competition.
https://www.youtube.com/@ForgedInFire

Van maybe know that

[placid yarrow]

Yeah I've seen it. And mine isn't meant as a weapon lul

You don't need a big blade to carve wood :P

[pine summit]

https://www.ign.com/articles/japanese-government-calls-on-sora-2-maker-openai-to-refrain-from-copyright-infringement-says-characters-from-manga-and-anime-are-irreplaceable-treasures-that-japan-boasts-to-the-world

[fierce moth]

🤔 What triggered emoji mean

trigger which things

[hot crown]

...The kid has yet another ~38C fever. AGAIN.

Complete with dry cough and runny nose.

Not surprised at all... 😔

[sudden anchor]

get him some vitamin c

[fierce moth]

Runny nose hhhhhhh

[acoustic jungle]

PoE people, when are we expecting PoE 2's 0.4 to drop? Start of December?

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhh I'll get a runny rose too if I have a cold

This phrase is interesting and vivid

Before I have a cold, nasal congestion will find me at first

[abstract karma]

after new year i think

period is like between PoE 1 a PoE 2

always 12-or more weeks for PoE 1 with PoE 2 that period is replaced and prolongled

so 4 months between each game updates

[desert jasper]

I wanna say it's gonna be in december
end of this month for the next poe1 league

[abstract karma]

probably maybe misscalculated but i think that always 3/4 of game league is another game update now released

[desert jasper]

I just think they wouldn't wanna skip on the massive sales under christmas

[junior oyster]

Watcher is weak

[neon sigil]

december sometime according to the timeline. probably right before christmas break

[fierce moth]

do you have x account? A new self-promotion event is living... #portfolioday

lol oh I almost forget my x account. Let's keep it sleeping.

[neon sigil]

I do not sadly, I got an artstation but thinking of shutting it down.
I might make a bluesky later tho.

[fierce moth]

It's quite rng to get followers from ins/x/bluesky/artstation

[warped wren]

aren't X and bluesky just cesspools of vitriol

[fierce moth]

I have an account on every social media in English community, I just no idea how to run them

[twilit mountain]

Bluesky is noticeably less awful, particularly on the fashy end. The CEO is a tool though. Just, not a "I wish to commit crimes against humanity" tool.

[desert jasper]

Both are awful

[twilit mountain]

Oh I didn't mean to imply otherwise. It's just a different flavor of awful that's a little less "encourage people to seek the nearest bridge" kind.

[desert jasper]

Frankly
i've seen those comments on bluesky too

towards people who don't go with the majority of folk there

And people celebrating political violence

[twilit mountain]

I feel like I'm not being understood.

LESS. Not none.

X is literally created to peddle it to you

[desert jasper]

You know what, you're right
My bad on that
I'm just used to people meaning "that's not an issue over there " when they say "less"

I'm sorry

[twilit mountain]

It's alright, sorry for gettin a bit snippy. Still off meds, not super stable (BUT I GET BACK ON THEM SOON RAAAAAAAAH).
Also I tend to use a lot of words really rigidly which apparently isn't normal, so... this stuff happens a lot

[desert jasper]

I also tend to take them more rigidly

Doesn't help that it's been a long day

[twilit mountain]

Unrelated, Hero Siege S9 might be wild, we be getting a PoE-like passive tree for post-100 progression and a thing akin to the Atlas tree. Good shit. Hopefully it goes down well and they don't make stupid choices again.

[cobalt citrus]

I can’t believe hero siege is still actively played

I remember playing that game on my old phone in school

[twilit mountain]

It's uh, real different now. Back in 22 they basically redid the whole game and called it Hero Siege 2. This redo was REALLY bad. It was a sloppy D2 clone, no exaggeration. They nerfed almost everything that was tested and found to be at least tolerable during the beta period, they were forcing us to have rather slow cast times and the inability to move while casting. You get the point.
It took them a solid two years to make it not awful and unfun. It's at least an okay game now. Though the monetization is still real ass.

[gilded elm]

The guy who inherited the game was also very controversial, might still be among his community.

[twilit mountain]

Oh I wish he inherited it. No. Elias has been there from the start and he's a right piece of shit.

[gilded elm]

Ah, yeah but it wasn't always a one man show, no?

[twilit mountain]

Nope, he just got way more... confident about being able to shit talk his players and his co-workers are like "this is my job, what am I supposed to do, just quit?"

[desert jasper]

But we can't allow having fun in our games
Now can we?
It must be suffering
Climbing without tools, if tools are given they must be broken somehow
Only then can you enjoy it when you suffer

[gilded elm]

I think this went beyond simple disagreements on game design

Players had feedback about the drastic changes made to the game

His handling of it was the controversial part

[twilit mountain]

He's got a lot of out of game shit too. He's had a few moments online that start with a R and end with an Ist, and he cultivated a horrible following of sycophants who would target and harass people out of the game/community/Discord.

[gilded elm]

Yep, that would qualify as being a terrible human being, at least if you're actively nurturing those kinds of followers.

It's a shame too, because Hero Siege as it is today is pretty cool, but I'm betting he lost a significant portion of old and potential customers during that period of negativity around the game.

I played some, even own most of the DLC I think, but the game's egregious monetization is ultimately what pushed me away more than anything IMO

[twilit mountain]

Oh yeah, I saw a lot of folks leave. I on the other hand had already bought everything that was available content-wise so I was like "aight, guess I just won't spend more money then"

[gilded elm]

Yeah if you can enjoy it without spending anymore money, you're just a drain on his wallet, which is some consolation too lol

[twilit mountain]

It's still so bad. At one point they tried to make it so you needed a subscription service to see roll ranges on items. And the whole community went "uh. What? WTF? No? Are you high?"

[gilded elm]

That reeks of desperation, like this is the guy's primary source of income and it's just been getting worse and worse so he's pulling levers to figure out where he can get away with it.

If only he wasn't such an asshat and didn't actually chase away his most loyal customers.

[desert jasper]

wtf

[gilded elm]

For a guy who seems desperate to make money, he sure likes to throw it away.

[twilit mountain]

Unrelated yaaaaaay Torchlight numbers are still pretty funny

[desert jasper]

That actually kind of reminds me of some of the monetizations they put in some of the f2p mmorpgs I used to play
they didn't exactly have the "you can't see rolls"
But one of them had very heavy pay to win mechanics
another one that was originally p2p then sold to... ncsoft? or something started having stuff like if you don't buy their premium deal you can't talk in global chat, you can't invite people to party (unless they were already on your friends list), can't send whispers to people, can only do X amount of dungeons a day (very low), only this amount of crafting a day etc etc

Luckily I was grandfathered as a premium user but still, holy...

[twilit mountain]

NCSoft ruins a game they buy. Tale as old as time.

[desert jasper]

oh and then they had leak at some point and I'm still locked out of my account since that happened :^)

Oh, Aion
I used to love you so much

[twilit mountain]

The limited crafting thing can be okay, GW2 does it for their really high tier materials, but also like, they have a very lively economy and it's a very limited selection of materials that are mainly there for ego boost gear rather than "you need this to play the game"

(And it's also a limit for everyone, not just F2P)

[desert jasper]

Aion needed very much crafting
The amount of in game currency you could get by either crafting or gathering crafting materials was nuts
mostly because the gathering sucked some royal ass. some of it was also only available while flying so you'd need to wait every now and then
I actually had a game master come in and ask me if I'm a bot several times
mostly because I repeated the exact same pattern in same gathering zones multiple days in a row

I just told them "nah, I'm just autistic AF and this is comfortable to do"

[twilit mountain]

LMAO too reall

[desert jasper]

When it chagned to free to play they put in rules that they don't care, if you act like a bot they'll ban you and excuses will not help

[twilit mountain]

I like the GW2 eco, pretty much anything can make money if you really dedicate time to it.
I spent like 4 days in a row existing in one single zone farming materials to sell and I used them to buy a whole-ass expansion because you can convert gold to gems and vice versa

(It sounds OP, it ain't, it's actually pretty stable conversion rate)

[desert jasper]

Last time I tried GW2 was in like... it was either closed or open beta
and I tried some of the jumping puzzles
and it was the worst thing I've seen
laggy mess
100s of people trying to jump on the same small platforms that were barely long enough to step on, wide enough to just barely register as a platform you can stand on

and there were 10+ of them

[twilit mountain]

HAHAHAHA YEAH DONT WORRY WE ALL HATE THOSE

[desert jasper]

my friend couldn't understand why I hated it

he said "it's fine"

[twilit mountain]

Nowadays we have a... I think Mesmer? Go run it and just teleport everyone else who runs along to the finish and we just chuck them a gold or two for the portal

Said Mesmer usually also cheeses half of it with a mount. Silly little rabbit (or gryphon. or dragon.)

[desert jasper]

Also tried Wildstar when it was in closed beta
it seemed to have some good ideas.
but then it basically just didn't sell at all and they dropped the game basically instantly

one of the other f2p mmorpgs I played was Shaiya
and hoooly... it was so massively pay to win it wasn't even funny.
I had a guild mate that spent $2000 every month.
Then he asked me if I could borrow him some money

[twilit mountain]

Wot

[desert jasper]

Like... cosmetics, sure.
But then actually selling stuff like "hey if you spend x amount of money during this period of time you'll get this guaranteed result"

or "you'll get a gem that gives you +20% movespeed that you can slot in your boots (only has like 1% to succesfully slot in"
they also obviously sold those that it's a guaranteed to hit

[twilit mountain]

That's kinda sickening

[desert jasper]

Took me way too long to notice the pay to win because I was playing as a tank or healer so everybody wanted me in their party

[twilit mountain]

Thanks gods GW2 is just "pay to look fancy" (I guess you could argue that the indestructible gathering tools are P2W but eh, it saves you like 5 minutes of time, I don't really think it's quite there)

[desert jasper]

Yeaa that sounds perfectly fine

Anyway
not playing another game from Aeria games after that

They actually just got licenses for korean games and made them even worse pay to win

[twilit mountain]

That's

Scary

Lol

[desert jasper]

Funny thing is
I actually met plenty of other Finnish people while playing it
Including 3 guys I already knew (and lived in my city)

[twilit mountain]

Ha. That is neat. I've only ever found people that live in places I used to live somehow

[desert jasper]

I've mostly lived in this city
A while in germany
and then like... 3 years in another city while I was in university. a rommate from that time actually called me year ago.... at 3-4am

Took me forever to realize who is actually calling

[twilit mountain]

why.... why at 3-4AM

[desert jasper]

Because he was drunk and for some reason got reminded of me

I did answer because I had forgotten to put the phone on do not disturb for the night
realized who it is
told him to call at a better time
he hasn't called me since then
||these days I just have the numbers that might have something important allowed at any hours. close relatives adn a few friends. Because I know they wouldn't call just for fun at during the night||

[placid yarrow]

Wildstar sadge

[sand wigeon]

I have never had any social life so obviously I’m winning

[blissful token]

So what do we know about Duskbloods from FromSoft?

Multiplayer focused? Thats an eww for me

[hot crown]

...The fever escalated to 39.4C...

[desert jasper]

oh that's not good at all

[fierce moth]

It's a health blessing for Shadow's kid 🔆

[hot crown]

Thank you... 🙏 Hoping for a speedy recovery.

[cobalt citrus]

That's why I dont mind how warframe is, also the player run economy is peak when well managed. I spent like 70 bucks once cause I wanted prime early and the cosmetics

Otherwise I have nearly 40k plat and I just sell stuff

And sure there's resource boosters but its the same thing, it doesn't do a whole lot when you're at the point im at in the game. Im max level with everything done waiting for another update

[hot crown]

Yeah, "Fashion Wars 2" isn't there for nothing. 🙂

Although it blows for me because I have zero disposable income, otherwise I would've had at least N-1~2 expansions up and completed.

That, plus existing in a literal ghetto (and a horribly mistreated/mislabeled one too) amid EU.

[cobalt citrus]

France?

[hot crown]

||Belarus||. For the record, I'm VEHEMENTLY against ||the insane war going on next door||, and so is the overwhelming majority of my fellows, but who the f cares anyway.

Common sense is way too uncommon nowadays.

[cobalt citrus]

Oh yeah Im sleeping with a gal who immigrated to Canada from Belarus

Seems like a pretty place