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Yes and no, I guess? ||2|| major boss fights left I think, if you just got there. ||Treasures of Utzaal|| is an optional quest FYI.
bug lol, boss stuck outside
She did go out of the arena for me too, but came back in lol
where this boss is? act 3 end boss?
My understanding for epic and enjoyable boss combats must increase a lot after I done the campaign one day ๐คญ
maybe near end boss
Damn, Trial of Chaos still kinda tough despite being overleveled lol
Then again, I haven't really upgraded much gear recently
Thanks for mighty silverfist, the big guy who hold a huge stone pillar
I know I must evade but I still no idea when it'll smash the ground or roll to another position. Build the resonance is a hard thing
Holy god, kill it after I died 314 times in poe 2 in total
that's why you die trying, it's path of dark souls dear girl
die enough until you don't
do you want my Earthbound staff? i already replaced it. Your wand might actually be better already though
lol lightning warp is fun
i didn't like lightning warp when i tried it out, but i just unlocked ball lightning and apparently you can teleport to the ball lightnings ๐ค
Yeah, that's what I do
Also put Unleash on Lightning Warp to triple cast it
The cull is useful too for rare and boss fights
Good to see that cull still works on rares/uniques just like it did in PoE1
i gotta admit, poe2's story not as good as poe1's so far
i guess i'll have to see what the next 3 acts do tho
when they release i mean
I remember finishing poe1 campaign for the first time in around 2 days
but this, I'm not even end of act 3 yet and it's already almost 1 week since game released
whoever design map layouts is a real war criminal there
directly remind me of the old days of d4 nmd terrible layouts
and shit tons of backtracking
Yea maps are definitely too long but I reckon once I get movement speed then it should be a bit less of a problem
Lv3 Shield Charge gem too, alternate weapon set if you don't already use a shield
you can vaal skill gems?
You can in PoE1
Vaal Orbing a gem in PoE1 could give like overleveled or overquality'd gems if I remember, or just brick your gem
apparently this happens in poe2:
+/- 1 gem level, +/- 1 SOCKETS, +/- quality, or nothing at all happens.
i just did it on a low level gem
you can still level them after too
Gonna guess you can still brick your gem in PoE2 because I assume you cannot modify a Corrupted gem
But can you actually increase your gem's quality now?
If it's corrupted, I assume not
ah, nope. just tried a prism on it
I assume you also won't be able to use the Exceptional Jeweler's Orb to make it a 6L
So yeah this is how you "brick" gems
makes sense, but it'll carry me for a bit so that's nice
i only had 5 quality on the other one so not a terrible loss i think
Vaaling is a gamble, but can pay off. Generally only do it on stuff you can afford to lose lol
i'll just swap later
yeh, i knew it could brick
there's also the free vaal in act 3 i think

Okay this actually seems pretty good because of Skill Speed, but I cannot afford that resistance loss right now lmao
๐ฑ There's a wand better than it so you replaced it?
I'd like to own that
looks like flicker strike to me ๐
sure one sec
@fierce moth try this:
Open the inventory by pressing Options (Xbox) or the Touchpad (PlayStation).
Press LT (Xbox) or L2 (PlayStation) to open the chat window.
Hover over the item you want to link using the right stick.
Once your trade request is accepted, drop the item into the offer box.
Verify the attributes and hit 'accept' to complete the trade.
open the chat window to accept trade? hah...
yeah idk
hmm
can you accept with mouse and keyboard?
yeah i can't find anythign about how to trade on controller from googling
I'm confused both of controller UI and PC UI don't have trade button here
i right click your avatar on the left to do it
? I don't need staff
oh, i thought you wanted it?
Oh I want wand more
i misunderstood then lol
i thought this #๐โoff-topic message was you saying you wanted it
oh lol my bad, but yeah i'll help you with the boss too
oh then I maybe can try controller UI by that too
lmk when you switch back to controller and we can kill the boss
Yeah no trade button
๐ค @covert shoal thanks bro for willing to try le
Today is my birthday so here's some cake 
Happy buffday! Erega 
Thank you, have a slice 
Thanks, very yummy
mine is similar but only 1 ex
Mine has perfect rolls, so many guys DM me for buying
Happy birthday!
lol, cutting human body in half from top down, this is some messed up sh!t
?!? Poe have the same landscape?! This map is super familiar... Keth branch in act 2 of poe 2
slicing bodies in half with precision laser, so high tech
Hmmm.
We def need more currency drops lol
57 hours and I finally saw a second annul
game freeze right when entering act 4 town, damn it
guess now I can turn off the sound and play the properway
lol wat da heck is this
now I'm done with content discovery, it's speed time
Vendor 3 to 1 basically
Do I add you in poe 2?
You haven't but you can if you want. Character is simply Deias.
emmm alright the friend system don't support nickname
Nop but don't worry, I always put Deias in my name somewhere
You're lv.76 already?!?!
Lol. Yeaaaah.
You're solana?
Impressive pace you have
I be mappin. Went through campaign with a friend, had severe map bugs so we couldn't map together. They fixed them far as I can tell so we map together sometimes now.
No, solana is another one
Nah, I dread to rerun the 3 acts
Just that now I don't need to care about exploring every corner of middle eart anymore
Just speed to objectives
Hopefully tonight act 4 done
And need to save ex to buy the key unique gloves for the build
First thing I did when I entered Act 1 Cruel haha
For me the proper way is with audiobooks in the background
I did the way I do in poe1, change settings in poe folder to false
Hopefully less resource consumed
For me is either jazz or streamers
Thank you my friend 
i have a feeling its an eastern egg for a certain old gif
HAPPY BIRTHDAY EREGA!!!!!!!!

Thanks Ave you're the best 
Hm. Hell of a map.
man, when will I reach map
Do break armor helpful for increasing spell damage or it's work on melee damage only?
only for physical damage
Fire damage wand i get always the best
time to respec to flamethrower ๐คช
...The game is crashed after I enter the first room of trial of chaos
if you log back in, are you still in trial? ๐ค
best rare I've ever found and it's perfect for my class 
I'm the meat for enemies in trial of chaos. Too slow to slain them
anyone who wants to level with my druid/shaman/priest in mists of pandaria private server? the server is decently played, like 500 active players rn and exp rate is like x5
the music and sound effects are insane
You only need to clear 4 floors of Temple of Chaos for Ascendency points, btw
How to deal with the river within the only way? I explored the whole area and south-west is the only path I don't go
Or the quest is I need to kill the boss in Jiquani's sanctum machinarium first?
I even can't go through the first floor ๐
this is quest marker showing you the way ๐ค
I learn to tweak minimap to look neater, too much texture and can't see anything on screen
mine is as simple and neat as this
this gives me the happy chems
Holy god, There's a boss I can kill that without any death finally
The boss in Jiquani's machinarium harder than Jiquani's sanctum's one a lot
....I want to showcase this map specially... HOLYYYYYYY God
I don't know how their level designers works... Speechless... Genius work...? The most twisted map? Perfect longth of branches? Spooky long path?...
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They always can give me a bigger shock when i think current surprise is amazing enough
feels good to beat Act2 endboss on cruel first try, revengeeee for what he did to my witch! 
wait until you see end of Act3 ๐
found Wanderlust..but it's no more lvl 0 unique ๐ญ
So, this appears to be a bug afaik. A lot of low level uniques have gotten their levels upped if they drop as a higher tier base than normal. It's a bit frustrating. Lifesprig for example can drop at level 52 cuz uh... idk screwy mechanics behind the scenes.
I'm done today...Need a rest ๐ต
I suppose I still far away from the end of act 3
interesting
yeah, you got a few hours still if you explore everything^^
Ran four big maps is enough to run out my spirit 
I need to zoom more, I only have like 8 Atlas points 
only caster weapon, coz there's an increase in weapon skill ranks
it's not a bug
idk why but i was doing fine, and then hit utzaal and now i'm facing a wall again
The most impressive maps so far:
On aesthetic - The buried shrine
On level design - The matlan waterways
the viper whatever boss is giving me a run for my money
who's Utzaal?
Utzaal is the area in act3
A boss who in one of the remain marked areas?
๐ฎโ๐จ Alright yeah i guess still a long journey in this chapter waiting me
Oh... Forget a thing. Let's see how many times I lay on the ground now ๐คญ
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358 times, ok
If it helps at all, I know someone who passed 500 deaths before act 3 lol
i have 111 now
Idk what I have, I figure I'm close to 100 rn
by maps? pro tier gamer spotted
I have a relatively safe build. LA electrocutes basically everything on screen before it can hit me if it doesn't straight up kill them in like 4 shots, MagSalv absolutely carpet bombs anything that survives.
Combined with the good coverage that is three LA projectiles, chill/freeze from occasional Freezing Salvo or whatever it's called, I'm not often threatened. I effectively stunlock bosses.
Also Electrocuting Arrow gets me out of crowds pretty consistently, that's super handy
(Also, also, I have 40% move speed like all the time cuz of boots + Tailwind)
Thanks for Fleshy help me reducing many of amount, my death must over than 400 if he don't carry me to act 2 end boss and the bog witch
I think the death counter doesn't count trial deaths ๐ค
It shouldn't count honor deaths, it should count health deaths inside of trials. If it isn't that might a bug.
proud but also confused with this number, also LA Deadeye ๐ช I thought it's more :S
Good shit my dude 
lvl 61 ๐
I played a lot in a party with my friend so I had a biiiit of extra difficulty
77 here. Wanted to get 78 before I logged off but my internet is being awful today so I can't play anymore lol
does mana regen not spawn on gear? I don't think i've seen any
I ate two deaths to my ping bar going ๐ ๐ ๐ before I decided to close the game
Increased mana regeneration rate does, flat does not
Source: duo is an Archmage player who has mana + mana regen on almost every item
end of act 4 here we are
minimap might be dead 45 times, but overlay map? ๐ค
I saw this in game so it got me thinking
Do Power Charge gives me smth ?
no, it's there only to be consumed, unless a specific unique item gives you something with charges
my current build for example depends entirely on power charge generation and consumption at the same time
I got confused by PoE 1
@tawny sand Do I need to spec back lightning resistance penetration and lightning explosion effect increased if I want to run this skill?
And do I need to increased crit chance to get more chance to trigger lightning explosion?
btw, did you guys know that STRG+click on hooded one makes your whole inventory instantly identified? ๐ง
Works also on vendors to instantly go to shop/disenchant
I know ctrl+ left click the hooded one can do but I don't know how to do in conntroller UI
Use km VS Use controller to play it is different experience completely
oh idk, i don't use lightning warp. @gilded elm does (hope it's alright to ping)
yep sorry forgot it's different in EN ๐
I remember Byte's character is Infernalist
oh i'm not sure, they posted a vid of them using lightnign warp yesterday
๐คญ ......
DPS is super high yeah, but...it's lv.18
oh remind me of a question... What the sense of using unleash support gem for a spell? I have no idea its usage
I don't understand what the tooltip saying
When you don't cast the spell it gains stacks (2x the cast time of the spell for one stack)
When you cast it you consume the stacks and the spell repeat once per stack you consumed
So unleash can help me cast this skill two more time when I cast this spell once time?
If you haven't cast it yes
Or it expand the effect duration from supported skill? What cast time means?
The time you spend casting the spell
Hover your skill with the mouse it will tell you
Then unleash is useless if I cast skill twice times?
Unleash is for a spell that you occasionally want to cast multiple times.
oh then lightning warp is belong to this type indeed
I haven't seen lightning warp because I don't play a sorceress but yeah, if you want to cast it 2-3 times every 10 seconds then unleash is good
oh my god I'm so blind..I just noticed mod tiers are on the right side while holding ALT ๐คฏ I knew the left side but I never saw the other and was thinking they don't give this info yet so you gotta figure it out by yourself ๐คฃ
man i just noticed, poe2 need 100GB and LE only 22GB
what you mainly think affect it?
You know why is it so big once you played these maps and bosses
The size of maps are incredibly big
maybe, my comp will probably run it smooth now
Must more smooth than mine
There's no much point of using unleash if u using spell echo ,theoretically its a DPS speed thing not sure how unleash works in poe two or how many charges it can get exactly spell echo along it makes it cast an extra time after the charges were used
So if u proj It can be good or something like SRS
But SRS is a in build skill in to flame wall now so not an option anymore
Wait why is the wiki for Poe 2 pops under fextras ?
they didn't actually made a wiki for game yet ?
We l have weird wikis again that not gonna be up to date
got the comp today, so its newwwww
This game just made me want to play d4 or LE instead. RIP
i use bing so idk
I mean that's fine the game is not for everyone but it's also in EA and they taking feedback as always
My issue is bad ISP once again and my networking is all over the place
My issue is bad action skill so super frustrating when I always slain by the boss but I don't know how to improve but I don't want to consume poor remain enthusiasm and curiosity for le so I don't want to play it
Like we all do ,throw body's at it untill u know everything about the bosses skill
AoE ,damage ,animations etc etc
Not sure if u have played or seen lost ark before and the cycle of try and fails when new Bose's come out
I even don't own this game ๐คญ
U do like designing stuff though ,I really recommend to check out Brelshaza raid
It is most amazing raid I have seen before
The arena is sick
Not available in Chinese region
Ohh that's weird ,I didn't know the game was censored for u
Can think of few reasons though
It's published by happytuk is the reason I guess
Don't know Ur cultural laws to much ,the Taiwan releases are censored for u guys ?
I think so because Taiwan is part of China, just the difference on traditional Chinese and simplified Chinese
But Taiwan people can use all international app without blocks, mainland people needs VPN
๐คทโโ๏ธ So I'm jealous because of that
Let's be fair we all had a point where we had to use VPN
For us LA was first release in Korea and we had to play russian version to before the game was released in west and east EU
Not an issue for me but for rest of EU
You don't need VPN to run twitter/instagram/thread/discord/youtube/google/facebook/twitch/reddit etc at least ๐
well let me spoil u something then
even the freaking orchestra from that raid is famous and amazing
the only thing that comes above it is Gloria for us (in my opinion xd theres a lot of really good orchestras around )
stated by a person who listen to all Serj Tankian songs to
Oh... I forget a thing... Not only better GPU you can enjoy, but also AI assistant can help you do lots of things
does she fold the laundry?
one of my mental PTSDs just kicked in if that AI can hang thongs after washing, for a men i am getting that speatially for publick blocks drying places
have u ever been embaresed and lost at same time ?
where do u put the clip ?ยฟยฟยฟ
i finally made it to cruel, the bosses are easier than the mobs most of the time i swear
thats a familiar feeling though XD
thats fine as long as u did the boses once u learn or u brain does auto doesnt matter
now mobs gettings mods and defences can be a party , give me a feedback after u face a rare pls

eyyyoooo let's gooo Mapping ๐ฅณ
well..tomorrow 
Nope, am Stormweaver
Mostly using Spark/Ball Lightning/Lightning Warp/Conductivity/Orb of Storms combo
Switched to mostly using Lightning after I got a really nice +4 staff from vendor
I think I try building into Crit now. Seems easier to do earlier in your build than PoE1
witch has good access to crit. I'm going crit by myself now but there isn't much at Ranger start :/ still got a lot of lvl ups so I go north
not bad not bad, source of power charges, though it comes at a high cost
I'm currently using the other power charge chest, the on hit one
anyone knows what area level starts dropping level 14 skill gems? I'm cooking the final version of my build but need level a 14 skill
waiting for those patch notes
is there a patch note out soon?
I just downloaded a patch almost 900mb, not sure what that is
oh lol, char size 0 is only from this patch onwards? I thought since last patch
they said in the post that some of those changes went live then and some were coming soon
Trigger Gems and Energy Gain
Trigger gem energy gain was not in the right place and it was far too easy to use ailments to trigger spells. One problem with the previous system is that if we balanced it to make triggering happen in boss fights then the triggering would happen far too often during clearing. In order to address this we are now making "Monster Power" part of the calculation for energy gain. This means that it's far easier to trigger skills from Unique Monsters than it is from normal monsters, but you also hit many more normal monsters when fighting. Another issue was using low level skills with unconditional ailment applications such as Flame Wall to ignite enemies for triggering. In order to make the source of the ignite matter we are making the energy gain be dependent on the strength of the ignite. We have also rebalanced all energy gain across the board.
all those meta gem cucks 
so people were taking level 1 flame wall and throwing it down so that mobs would all get ignited for like 0 damage but because it was causing tons of ignites it was triggering cast on ignite regularly?
that was nerfed in previous patch
this patch they nerf the meta gems directly
less energy gained with normal monsters, instead of all being the same
meaning that your bossing speed doesn't change but clear speed is hmm
as someone who hasn't played with meta gems i think its a good change in general, counting power, because then its easier to balance
yeah, same feeling, I think dev's vision is that the majority of your power should come from you doing the damage, not some triggering stuffs
oh it's nice hhhhh Just said no trade on console yesterday
Wait, I need to test what's trade website
Alright, I don't figure out
you play on console?
play on pc but use controller
this thing is only for consoles, not for pc players with controller
pc players just open trade site and that's it
I can't just click your avator on friend list and select trade
no trade button is available
no idea, I never use controller to play an arpg before in my life
did you try switching back to mouse keyboard or wasd and see if it works?
Available in PC UI but not available in controller UI
The announcement don't mention this thing too then
i think they have to be in the same instance, i wasn't when you were trying earlier
but when i brought it up you didn't reply, so we just killed the boss lol
rip
useless now
Yeah they really need to address this imo
hah so there's a orb for a skill with 3 support sockets?
Yes and it's expensive. Then there's another one for skills with 4 sockets.
I want one :(
This type of orb is super rare...
is there a way to view what level support gems drop from which area? I want to go back and get a level 3 for enfeeble
i don't want to use a high tier one cause of the mana cost
er, i meant skill gems not support
Ball lightning is the skill i don't unlock yet... Which support gem you use for orb of storms? I don't know what i can do with that... That's a skill for shocking enemies only because its damage is very low?
when you cast a lightning spell in Orb of Storm's ring, it causes more arcs to shoot out
in my case i use the support gems Persistence for more duration, Overabundance to cast two, and Font of Mana for mana regen
and i just stand in them and cast
that said, i'm also fleeing a lot so i don't always get to stand in the orb of storms rings lol
I still don't understand, address what exactly?
Lifesprig is supposed to be a wand usable at level 1 but it's bugged where you can roll high level requirements because it will roll level 12 mana drain
it requires higher int than what you would have for an alt for it to be useful
The higher int is due to the skill rank, not the base item
So it's working as intended
Unless they change it later on to have the skill rank locked
Meaning it should just stay at level 1 mana drain, and won't increase with area level
i mean yeah
But again, idk how they can change it only for that weapon
Unless they make it so that all weapon skills should be min level (not always 1) and then you can use skill gems and jeweller orb to upgrade
Oh... understand how to trade by accident
Why this map is keep flashing...
I need to say physical damage from mobs in Utzaal is crazy... Restart the game and the flashing is coming again after I run this map for a while
They also do a lot of chaos dmg
oh ok time to wear chaos ring
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My game can't go on because of consistent flashing and overpowered enemies
man, there's a massive uproar on all media right now regarding the nerfs earlier
not exactly because of the nerfs, but because there's no free respec as promised, people are in their 60-80, with no gold to respec, basically build got bricked
... Forget I had sell my chaos resistance ring before
I agree with that now plus i meet a consistent visual bug
hhhhhhhhh...
No thoughts, just want to laugh ๐
he can do that?
heorot just
dashed from me and forced me into the zone to which i died right away
Better suited for #โโask-the-community .
But to answer you question its not that he force you, he have a "safe" zone around him, and he dash every now and then so the "safe" zone move with him
@zealous light Hi, I wonder do GGG find this visual bug. It influence my experience too bad... Hope it's fixed soon
How are you deal with the wall in utzaal successfully later?
I mean, same way they do it for Tabula have 6L all white at item level 1 in PoE1, make it specifically that item drops and is locked to specific stats always.
or see the one I proposed
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That'd work too
I think it's issue on my defense more this time ๐ physical damage is overwhelming there
yeah it was pretty rough for me, i didn't have any chaos resist at the time
behold my everythingisroughlythesame res
and i was just face tanking everything more or less, didn't even have mind over matter yet and no armour or evasion lmao
the end boss was easy though
Oh they deal chaos damage too when they melee attack?
but the mobs just was rough for me
i think in arrogat yeah
utzaal might be different idk
Hits 73% evasion with Tailwind though
there's no death log so i really have no idea
So all of your gears are bonus Energy field only?
Mine is armor + energy field
shit tons of mobs vs detonate dead, guess who win
yeah somewhat i guess, i have 450 energy shield but no shield regen so i just take initial hits with it really
I wonder can you over 100 times even you hit lv 100 ๐
today I played so carelessly, already 60 deaths
Lol god no, I'll pass 100 deaths long before I hit 100
I think this one can sell for a lot
Deias is swimming in poe 2 freely without doubt
+1 death I walked into DD rare like an idiot
i still haven't beaten ultimatum, and they made it easier apparently. I'm so bad lmao
Haven't touched Ulti since the first one, won't touch it cus Sekhema is easier for me with the amount of crowd control I have
yeah i might just try to get the next 3 trial djinn barya
haven't found one yet though
i think 3 trials should be 2 more points
I've got like 4 or 5 if you want one
ah nah it's okay, i'll probably need quite a few cause i don't expect to be it the first time. I'll just get it from drops
ty tho
Okie dokie. Offer's on the table if you ever feel like taking it up.
anyone has level 7 skill gem? exactly level 7
i don't unfortunately
Nope, lowest I have is 6, then it jumps to 10. And like 20 copies of level 14s
guess later I'll need to go back and farm, not even sure which act, which map
i'm not sure either, i guess act 2 somewhere?
1-4 drops in act 1 i think, i just had to farm level 3 ones
good morning travelers and exiles, is someone else having the issue with maps giving 'unexpected disconnect occured' which eats up the map? ๐ญ
I got that a lot when I opened maps from the Refuge.
got no hideout..wanted to target one first but my maps are being eaten by disconnects ๐
Yeah that was my issue. I got lucky and had one pretty close to my start.
is it normal or just happened after most recent patch I wonder ๐ค
did 20 maps still no hideout and the last town is laggy
It was happening to me pre-patch
I refuse to be in the last town because the floor doesn't load 
oof, no fun mapping then ๐
I found that maps without any added mechanics loaded more often if that helps you at all
gotta go through two ritual maps to get to hideout unfortunately
If you DC it'll remove the mechanics and you can try it then at least 
also havent found a single map in 4 maps not doing full clear but more than I had to. I'm not playing the endgame if it eats my maps like candy :/
Not an ideal situation AT ALL
Doryani sells maps, though they're a bit expensive.
yeah I saw that but if that's the temporary solution I think I just play something else until fixed ๐
The drop rate goes up after the first few tiers, mostly from rare mobs. But yeah it's rough.
(Also you can 3 to 1 them with the reforging bench)
so the reforging bench eats maps too, I see ๐ /j
did you transmute and aug the maps?
yes
unlucky then, rip
Yeah sometimes you just hit an unlucky streak. I hit one myself last night, I'm down to 1 T6 rn from 3 T9s ๐
i think ill just stop for now, not really enjoying my time in maps at all
they even rolled more magic and more rare monsters and had something like 100% increased chance to find maps ๐
I'm far more happy with maps than I am the campaign
yeah same..unfortunately. Addiction ends abruptly ๐ซ
well, I might just level another class then..wasn't an issue in campaign :S
vendor power, check vendor regularly guys
Yeah it's damn good that maps doesn't need to complete by killing bosses
Seriously though, anyone want some of these? They're all 3 floor/7 trial
does the 3 floor give you 3rd ascendancy points?
This part doesn't matter to me actually. I think the campaign is poorly paced and has bad story/lore. It doesn't feel like Path of Exile 2, it feels completely unrelated and I'm upset about it.
Yea
I'm level 57, wonder I can do those
The lowest one of those is level 69, might be scary lol
lol, better not, too underleveled
man i really wish we had any arpg not fumble this quarter, i could do with some new LE patch right now
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no poe1 league in ages, nothing new for last epoch, d4 gets boring quickly - earliest anything besides poe2 arrives will probs be march
I'm still waiting on the grim dawn expansion lol
that too but i think that is end of next year now?
๐ I still grinding gears in poe 2 and I need to complete the first fan art for that before this year ends so I'm busy
Would you like to play campaign again after you finished it for the first time and why?
Poe 2 โฌ๏ธ
It's way too long for me to do again right now - the progression is too slow for me to really enjoy my time there. In Poe1 i could play some resemblance of a build early on, in poe2 some things unlock only late in the campaign.
Something unlock in late campaign only isn't benefit for smooth experience with alt characters exactly ๐ค...
Alt characters are supposed to speed up in the campaign with better gears collected before
sure, to a degree, but the areas are still huge to walk through so i am not sure how much time you can realistically cut
And the map is generated randomly per time you entered so hard to know the right direction ๐คญ
But what I'm annoyed the most is enemies respawn once you're resurrected
LE's maps... Oh well I just realized nothing I can complain ๐ Included campaign and end game
Dr3adful said he think maps in poe 2 is over big too
LE new cycle in jan? TQ2 release is anywhere in winter
LE new cycle is in april
yeah, tq is good news tho i thought i read december 2025
so I did the Primalist way and verified my steam data and switched to a different server, so far no disconnect eating maps after four maps and I got my hideout ๐
oh they just released new blogpost, didn't pay attention
so now they finally call it season instead of cycle lol
No difference for me, I prefer cycle if I must choose one
Just read that post as EHG's meaning is they wish we play another ARPG more during the waiting duration because they want to polish the game harder is fine
Then our expectation will lower and can accept potential problems in new contents easier
Le just one more step to reach perfect game in my mind, that's new contents update 
Delaying is okay, but the longer you delay, the higher expectations people will have. It's "you spent 6-8 months, this better be worth it" mentality.
Or a more likely scenario is that you're forgotten
Yeah there is an opportunity cost absolutely. Players move on to different things and find new games to rotate through. The ARPG market is starting to get very competitive and especially with TQ2 launch on the horizon, EHG has got a tough time ahead of them.
Willing to try tq 2 the first month in next year, the last month in this year I want to explore poe 2 well
is this what I think it is? ๐
We're actually now, maybe for the first time ever, actually having to really choose which ARPGs we play. We can't realistically play all of them anymore, there's too many to split our time across.
No influence, I prefer grinding a game for a while until I learnt the basic completely
Learning is fine. But which way to learn is more important ๐ค
Take poe1 for example, took me around 100h to learn what other would take 5000h if doing self exploration
In my head I'm still trying to figure out which ARPGs I have the time to play anymore... like I'm already thinking I probably won't even have much time to play D4 between PoE1 PoE2 TQ2 and maybe even LE
And I'm someone who has a lot of time to play games.
I wish tq 2 can purchase one time only
What do you mean?
It's an offline game, so of course 1 time payment is expected
Then when dlc comes, you pay for dlc separately
We can only hope that LE isn't drowned and forgotten by the overwhelming choice of ARPGs that exist and are about to exist with upcoming major titles like TQ2.
Oh interesting, perfect choice for a option to compare with LE's offline mode
I fear it's falling into the same route of inquisitor martyr, game is fine but completely forgotten coz season every 6-9 months
I'd like see some difference so I can experience more
Martyr doesn't even do seasons anymore because it's forgotten. They just have the same past seasons that you can select at character creation, it's effectively an offline game now.
People play TQ for more than arpg, its lore is awesome
Long way to go on proving I'm a fan of this game genre...
To be honest I'm surprised that Martyr still has an online component that's being operated by Neocore. I would've expected the online part of it to shutdown by now.
Like Wolcen did
I bet many Chinese want to murder their bosses because of this sentence 
I've been very fortunate with my career hehe
April is over time than the first anniversary of le, I'm interested in anything they plan to do except possible thanks letter and sale
I bet many people will ask why le still no update even it's one year since the release
@vagrant topaz
same here, kinda, @fierce moth know my online time roughly
I'm annoyed by why I start too much stuff too late so my life is much difficult and worse than people under the same ago or even younger
mcdonald founded the same brand at the age of 70s, just saying
everyone in life has own pace
@ember lake This is what arrived on my birthday yesterday (sorry for ping btw)
I do need to use a hairdryer for the wrinkles but everything else is fine 
They're cosplay wings
Don't apologise! They look amazing!
I noticed this guy respawns right next to checkpoint whenever I go Esc -> Respawn at Checkpoint. Been farming him and gotten some pretty good stuff lol
Do we loose res when we change act ?
-10% per act yeah
At least it seems like we don't lose Chaos res though
That's how I would assume it to work yeah. These charms replace the flasks that were used instead in PoE1
Ruby Flask gave you similar Fire Res while active
Yeah, you take fire damage and this pops, giving you extra fire resist for 4 seconds
Not very clear from the tooltip
Thx
martyr also has issues with super boring items and almost no progression at least the last time i played
Okay, he stopped respawning now. I wonder if that was a special case thing, or if there's some other mechanic at play that is bugged and letting rares respawn when they shouldn't? Not sure...
Maybe it has to do with Cull
I went into a new instance of the Lost City and the rare is there of course and he is respawning again whenever I kill him. I guess I test to see if it's Cull or not
It's not Cull
LOL I think it's Shatter
No body = respawn
I think
Arctic Armour = Freeze = Shatter on kill, I think?
@gilded elm @twilit mountain Do you have flash ground issue when you're played Utzaal for the first time?
YES. OH MY GOD YES.
IT SUCKS
what boss is that?
Not sure I have? tbh
So it looks like I actually have cold damage coming from somewhere, which is doing massive freeze buildup with my spells
Aha
damn, the 29%
freeze is massively overpowered
So this is why I'm able to do huge freeze
And whenever I shatter this rare mob's body, there's no corpse and somehow this is allowing it to respawn whenever I respawn at checkpoint.
This definitely seems like a bug.
im playing a monk with ice-strike and cold infusion.... and it freezes everything... even bosses freeze in 3-8 hits
yeah, that seems like a bug
Yeah maybe Freeze is a bit strong
But being able to respawn rares with Freeze is even more busted haha
are you losing xp on respawn?
at some point xp loss starts on death.. but you can't lose levels
Doesn't seem like it, but I'm in Act 2 Cruel atm
Respawning at a checkpoint with a rare boss right next to it seems like a farming strat, but also not if it's actually a bug.
i was doing something virtually the same just by making new instance in keth, where there is a rare in a known spot
This is basically a similar spot in Keth, always very close to the Lost City waypoint.
which support gems should lightning balls be attached in a ligthning stormweaver build?
Except if you can Freeze the enemy just prior to death, it will shatter them and you can simply respawn them without having to run all the way back there
yeah, i read your whole convo from before byte
I just put Arcane Tempo and Deceleration. Lightning Warp is the skill that is strong, Ball Lightning itself isn't really strong.
byte - which potion did you drink? I took stun resist, but i think it was a mistake.. i think i should have taken elemental affliction resist
This one?
ohh.. mana.. ok
Strange, it's just in the map screen
I press U, I click Act 3, I hover over it and that's what I see
Maybe it just doesn't show for that particular selection
maybe when im out of act 3 it will change
a really good focus, except it doesn't have skill ranks
Sounds like it's worth 2 regal shards then 
i took stun resist, but i wish i took elemental affliction resist, because this whole zone is slowing my attacks to 1/3 of normal
though maybe it would do the same anyway
did you see that someone made a basic loot filter to colorize currencies and stuff?>
this is my best unique so far
NeverSink? Yeah a couple of days ago. He does the most popular filters for PoE1 as well
And also created and operates FilterBlade.xyz which is an item filter editor and syncing tool for PoE1/2
ohh, im using someone elses that is like neversink colors but different
I took ele ailment resist, coz poe1 always need to get immune to ele cc first
is filterblade updated for poe2??
no, just very barebone, can't hide stuffs
Don't think FilterBlade itself is updated, but it's being worked on 100%
i guess there is an alpha out that hides stuff right now]
There's also Ben's filter https://pastebin.com/rL1DpQsW
im using this one - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3605018
rip, guess they didn't have a Divine Orb for the screenshot? lol
lol
the colorization ahs been helpful
mostly for quality items
and of course the currency settings make currency more fun
do you know when belts with more charm slots start to drop?
Not me, haven't gotten to that point yet lol
yeah can't live without MS
sometimes i can and sometimes i cant
my build is a bit like flicker strike, so most of the time i'm just blinking to mobs
why ds lily is super famous as a game streamer?
ds lily is good at the game, and she's a fun streamer
It's a mod on belts, not an implicit ๐ซ
can enemies have more than one curse on them?
They can, but not by default.
kk thanks
I paid 25ex for this shit cus I got tired of being frozen
also i'm starting to get annoyed with the "one attack>roll>one attack>roll" gameplay. I need to stand still to really get spark doing stuff. i guess i'm doing something wrong though idk
what games she is good at?
path of exile
PoE, LE, D4, ARPGs in general.
She is a Hardcore SSF player
Lots of people good at poe ๐ค She is a fun streamer? How to review that?
Takes a lot of skill to play HC SSF in most of those games.
How many people do you know who are good at Hardcore PoE?
HC is going to be hard in poe2
im going to try it after i reach the atlas
i always play ssf effectively... though im in normal league to play/trade with friends
i dont trade on the market
oh so another gifted player
lol.. that's one way to look at it... the other way is that I don't like using things that make me play a game LESS
if I like a game, i want it to last LONGER
i know im going to get bored eventually.. happens with almost every pve game
The first trial is awful
When is the second one? Act 3?
not gifted, hc is more about knowledge and patience
most people lack either, or both
Yeah. It's not much better.
the first trial is easy!
Act 3, Trial of Chaos (it's Ultimatum from PoE1). You are gonna hate this one more if you hated Trial of Sekhema in Act 2. I waited until I finished Act 3 to even try it.
I hate Sanctum
it took a few attempts to learn the different mechanics they give you, but the first santum is trivial
Fellow Sanctum hater
I cant deal with the loss of Honor
It being easy and disliking it are not mutually exclusive
the honor thing is to make a trial that works in hardcore without killing you
i like sanctum, santum lover
Then again, you might prefer Ultimatum. The first set of Ascendency points from Trial of Chaos only requires that you complete 4 out of 10 floors.
I play safe ish and don't die, but I run out of Honor every time
i mean, santum is maybe a little boring, but i like it better than old trial labrunth
sanctum is easier imo, mostly skill based
for ultimatum, if all 3 choices are bad, you're hard fked
what class are you playing vlad?
Monk
Like, I have played a lot of Sanctum. I vehemently despise it despite knowing what I'm doing in it. And so, I hate Sekhema too.
vlad if you are having trouble with monk you have a bad build
Thx
git gud kiddo
im using ice strike and freeze bonus and everything freezes in 3 hits

only think in santum that even hits me is the boss
Oh no, I can't play lightning because there is a mandatory need for CC. I guess I am bad
you can
I feel like this is GGG being mean to us for hating on Izaro.
you have to use the electrocute skill
That I haven't unlocked yet
hmm? what level are you
on my monk, i admit i did the ascension a bit late... i had no need for it
I haven't seen any Electrocute related gems
i should explain.. i played monk into act but it didn't feel right, so i restarted a new one with a different build and this one rips
I'm deeply disturbed by the absence of Goblin Troupe in towns.
idk why there's no space for those runes/soul cores
you put a bow in your offhand and use that
the builds in this game are kind of in-between POE1 and a traditional class system like LE/D4....
you can play it class-based, but there are some particular combos that get way stronger if you flex outside your weapon type
like on this monk im playing a freeze/cold build... and for a long time I was using
this mage spell causes cold exposure, so i was using this to expose them, then my frost strike
you can also add mage Ember Fusillade to almost any build early for dps
or flame wall
i really want to try a blood mage quarterstaff build... but i need to get to atlas first
are quarterstaff skills considered spells?
yes, but why quarterstaff on blood mage? just for the theme?
this is poe, there is no class/weapon affinity
i want to play blood mage melee because of the double health and the orb mechanism
do we have a spell melee gem already?
i dont understand that question.... spells and melee are different categories
and where you get the +skill ranks from?
and even on monk i used frost nova erarly
you get skill ranks from attributes, but you can take any attribute on the tree
so i would roll witch, take +dexterity and run a quarterstaff
skill ranks are tied to attributes
when you have a skill gem, like quarterstaff frost-strike... each "level" of the gem is tied to an attreibute value
so you can't use level 10 quarterstaff ice strike, unless you have 85 dexterity
same is true of spells
you cant use level 10 frost nova unless you have something like 85 intelligence
unless you are a mercenary gemling, who can use any attribute to satisfy gem requirements
wait, so the spell you use is just to trigger something else, you don't main that skill
blood mage
open your gem panel and hover a gem
that's why I ask those questions
it shows you the attribute requiremetns of the gem
the reason I want to play quarterstaff blood mage, is that blood mage health orbs are OP
the thing I'm concerned is quarterstaff only gives + melee skill ranks
bloodmage can have double their health using blood orbs
?
i would be using quartersfaff skills
i would be playing monk skills on a bloodmage ascendancy
so basically not spells?
I was asking from the start, you said you would use spell gems on quarterstaff lol
no
i said i use spells on every class
i am using spells on my monk right now
spells havbe no weapon affinity
...alright I know why my ligthning ball don't work. It need to target at a enemy accurately
I'd better to keep using flaming wall
but the +rank spell skills have
are you talking about how your scepter or wand can have + spell ranks as an affix?
yes, and that's massive damage multiplier, +5+7
so I can't see the point of playing a spell build and not using wand/staff
except thematic
i underwstand your question now... the answer is, i wouldn't be using primary spells
i would be primary on melee skills
but also, you can equip secondary weapon and swap
but the point of my quarterstaff bloodmage is to use bloodmage ascendacy but use monk/quartersaff melee skills
I see, is the leech decent for monk builds?
i hear the leech is bugged
i wouldn't be running that spell leech, because i wouldn't be casting many spells.. i would be picking up blood orbs
the first point int he blood mage ascendacy makes enemies drop blood orbs
and there is another point that turns your energy shield into health
so i would run dex/int evastion/ES gear, and turn all the ES into health, and the blood orbs can bring you to 2x health
so I could have a massive health pool
fixed already, today I'm feeling really good with leech
ohh that's really goods
im glad they fixed it... anyway, i would not run the leech node, because it's spell leach, which would not affect quarterstaff melee attacks
I believe you want to spec crit damage, then progenesis node, then maybe infinite curse or ES on chest = max life
since you don't play spell, the spell leech and 15% base crit chance are out of the question already
just be warned though, life recovery from blood orb is quite pathetic
hmm interesting
i wonder if you can buff it in the passive tree, because only blood orbs can get you to 2x health, not leech, i think
it says critting an enemy spawns a remnant, so maybe you just need very high crit, or maybe they are percentage health
i was thinking it would be nice to be in melee to pick them up quickly ๐
anyhow.. its just an idea to try, it might not work out ๐
this frost monk absolutely rips
finally act 6, time for even more turbo
are you playing bloodmage ?
@fierce moth I can't believe I get better ping with hongkong server than singapore server
It's because blood orbs have that keyword. Uh.. overcharge? I don't remember what it's called
overheal or whatever it's called
but you can do the same thing with a unique chest (but it has -25% max life)
Yeah it was some oversomething keyword
@hexed stream do you still need lv.7 skill gem?
yes
lol
How many gems you need?
only 1, I need that skill to be min level and stay min forever
๐ I want a lv.13 skill gem, do you have one? We can trade
oh wait, lv 52 requires... Alright no sense for me even I have one
have too many of that
do you have lv 3 support gem?
I guess i can use that even lv 45 only
Lv3 support is like act 5
have too haha, not enough level to equip?
support gem don't require level right?
Looks like maybe support gems don't have level requirement, so yeah could work. Lv3 support gems start dropping around act 5 though
Nice
I need 2 lv3 support gems ๐
level 3 support gems? or 3-support gems on a skill?
invited
level 3
does sorc not have a way to apply electrocute?
I want 3 support sockets for a skill too, but that orb is very rare so i guess miniap don't has it
oh support gems in my inventory ok
you mean this?
yeah :( Super rare to see one
some will drop in act 3, then it drops quite often in act 4 onwards
I guess curse ground should very useful? Not sure how big the curse area is...\
Just what I wanted
where will start to drop orbs for unlocking 4th support gem socket?
act 2
No, that orb only can unlock 3nd support socket
Oh edited, I see. I don't know when Greater Jeweler's Orbs start to drop
There are 2 spots to get guaranteed jewelers orbs in the campaign, one on each difficulty fyi
3 support gem sockets for a skill still pretty serious to be honest
medium she means, I think maybe act 6 or even in maps
Fine then it's super far away from me ๐
Yes, but that's why in PoE2 you have many more active skill slots each with 2 support slots by default.
You are expected to use multiple active skills until you can compensate with more support sockets.
lol wtf happened to snakepit ring, was 6 ex yesterday, today 16-17 ex
was intending to sell mine but maybe I'll keep in case I want to play a projectile build later on lol
I reserve my opinion about this comment lol
๐ items to touch for the first time +1
Quality on scepters increase the spirit they give?
it's for the weapon skill gem quality
so if you don't use weapon skill, don't waste currency on it
no you can't
wand and scepter are like bow and quiver... bow gets 2 sockets but you can still quip quiver
and quiver has no sockets
I regret not buying ms boots earlier, feel so nice to speed
it does, i felt the same way
also makes many boss fights easier because youi can get out of the circles easiedr
is it possible to get a rune can bonus chaos resistance?
i would think so, probably rare though
Holy god, first time to failed at a boss combat because mana support isn't enough
This one is the most interesting boss combat I experienced so far
no, only soul cores have
I suppose the area mechanic is cooler
Ok how far you close to the edge is the best proof for how your damage is going ๐คญ
๐ ๐ The favourite boss combat is appeared
wait, I thought you already did this 2 days ago?
I killed this damn guy finally, in Jiquani's machinarium
Floor 4 boss for Sekhema is cooked beyond reason
Enjoy fighting a boss with a 2500% health multiplier that hits almost 300k base health at level 75 and has built in obscene damage mitigation.
Thanks GGG ๐
Sounds miserable.
just the way they like it :^)
You mean the 4th trial?
Yup
It is! I can two shot map bosses in T12+ but this boss, at level 75, was able to tank 12 massive overlaps and was down maybe 10%! It sucks! I don't think I'm gonna do that again!
I think I stopped playing around level 44 in act 3 so I wouldn't know. A lot of the game was just beyond me.
๐คญ lv 46 now
Going to do 2nd trial again to see can I beat the challenge
I don't like how the "crafting" tech works. The RNG sucks all the fun out of it. Support gems (Or the ones I've seen) are kind of underwhelming/not transformative enough.
I'm in cruel right now and act 1 final boss was a cakewalk
On the other hand the first boss in a2 killed me multiple times lol
Punishment simulator imo.
I don't mind it but I hate sanctum and dislike ultimatum lol
Yeah act 1 boss was easier for me in cruel than in normal
Felt like the game was making a concerted effort to punch me in the throat at every turn.
i have an easier time with bosses than i do general mobs lol
It's in beta so it's understandable
Same except certain bosses lol
Trials could probably be tuned down a bit but overall been having a lot of fun. It's definitely a different kind of fun from PoE1, but fun nonetheless.
Like I hate the second final boss of a3
I died to her more than the final boss
||I didn't die to him at all lol||
I guess I didn't get that far.
Some mobs can be very dangerous too like leaving blood pools that you can barely see
i think the worst mob are the worms that burrow and then they end up being rare on top of it, so annoying
the act 2 ones were killign me constantly
I could help you if you want but only if you are in the EU region
I'd rather reset there lol
They didn't kill me but they gave me a very hard time
Reminds me of d3 when the worms used to go in hiding and you had to wait for them to pop out so you could clear the bounty
They be taking notes from d3 and d4 imo
It can be hard to tell a rare till you realise it's not dying or if it has some kind of aura
the cc mobs do aren't nearly as bad as it was on d4's thankfully, stunlock sucks but it's not like the snake ladies with the flashing green eyes
true, i have to look at the rolls under the health bar
but i'm so busy dodging attacks and shit i'm not looking at the health bars
Almost got ptsd from that lol
the cc on d4 launch was horrible, i hated it
Same
and you HAD to take cc reduction
D4 should be more ambitious. It's a shame big studios are so risk averse. I get it, but it's quite disappointing.
yeah it sucks
i'm more likely going to play poe2 more now, i'm really enjoying it even if i'm bad at it
i think i have d4 uninstalled already, i was really disappointed with the expansion
I think D4 doesn't want to go the poe route because they want an easier game for their players but I think that's not true lol
Also I hate the lilith boss fight...
Making a game with more potential skill interactions seems like pure fun to me. (They could steal the idea of support gems from PoE and put them in their runeword system so you can make something visibly crazy. Multi-bouncing fireballs or being able to make a melee sorc, etc...)
Blizzard's modus operandi used to be taking good ideas from other games to make theirs better. I don't know why they abandoned that. It's a great strategy.
nope
If only.
if ur needing to get low level ones, you have to either trade for them or go back to the story zones they'd drop in and farm for them unfortunately
my issue with poe2 is that it feels more constricted in terms of skill/passive gem availability at the moment. In Poe1 i'd have access to all gems halfway through the campaign - right now so many skills are locked behind 14+ gems
i had to go back to get level 3 ones
Name a triple A game that has truly innovated a genre in the last 5 years (only thing I can think of coming even remotely close is BG3 but I don't even know if they actually had a triple A budget) and then name me a triple A studio that either isn't publicly traded or risk averse.
Larian afaik did have a AAA budget.
Donjt need specifically a low lvl one but thank for the info โค๏ธ
Damn that Sifu episode got me the feels man
Even acknowledging that as true, they were celebrated for being the exception. So yeah, modern triple A is in the gutter right now.
wtf is sifu?
Normal it's a game
video game, there's a short in it in secret level i think is what fane is talking about
But Amazon have done a series of one-shot episodes on certain games
sifu the game rocks, i haven't seen secret levelt ho
First two episodes were pretty great
I'm on the third one now
About 10-15 minutes per episode
Yeah was mentioning this yesterday I think #๐โoff-topic message
Oh. Sad.
I'm mostly just interested in the WH40k and AC episodes
And maybe the Mega Man one too, maybe
i don't think i have prime video anymore, didn't they make you pay extra for it now?
A few extra dollars on top of your Prime for ad-free, I think
I feel like I wouldn't get most of the episodes since the games they're featuring aren't ones I'd ever play.
I don't mind
... Can we own a marker for where the dragon fly to?
The arena is super big then I run around and find where is it all the time then hurt by flames a lot
First time to meet the boss
Need a recap/combat log.
You have died
Me: "Okay, was it physical damage? Fire? What?"
one of last epoch's best features fr
sometimes it can be misleading though cause it only shows the last thing you were hit by i think? i haven't played LE in a while so not sure
but still i rather have it than not
Yea that the issue with combat log it will only show the last hit that killed u
U could be drained to almost 1% and then pocked by basic attack and it will Tel u the basic killed u when in reality most damage came from lets say a dot pool
The sad thing it does exist in Poe1 just not in our version
https://youtube.com/shorts/6izFwEVgu6w?si=IUFOLuBZbRtxiJmXI m dieying lol I love internet some times
hah... I hate this gameplay from trial of chaos the most, too hard for carrying three fragments to the curresponding position
Can we skip trial of chaos to do 2rd and 3nd trial?
How many asc points do you get for beating the 2nd trial?
The first one was 2 iirc.
4 sets of 2 points
2 per tier of trial
The next one is ilvl 60+ Trial of Sekhema coin
With 3 trials on the coin, I think
You're not interested in the concord episode?
So it mean I'll at the disadvantage side in later acts because I don't get 2 points from trial of chaos?
Hah, dunno how that's even a thing lol
Not really no.
It's not that big of a deal in the acts.
You will be able to do it quite easily once you're probably almost done with Act 1 Cruel
Because Sony paid them for it. I don't know if you're aware but Sony actually thought concord was gonna be this big ip to rival star wars.
Oh yeah, I know that's what they thought. Just don't know how they could have monumentally misprojected that.
and a bad boss is gg
meanwhile chimera is basically free
but takes you 30 minutes
(if the RNG is cruel)
STOP FLYING YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE
๐ Then I just skip it... Too disgusting
What's cruel?
it's the temporary replacement for acts 4-6
Act 4-6 are not in the game yet, so we do Act 1-3 again in a harder difficulty called Cruel
The funniest thing is the concord episode will focus on characters that weren't in the game yet
Endgame starts after you finish Act 3 Cruel
^
so hope you got enough PTSD from end of act 1 the first time
...because by the second time you should hopefully have outscalled it
given by then you're probably rocking support 2s and maybe full 3 link
I didn't finish my first Trial of Chaos until I almost beat Act 1 Cruel
Either that's by design, or Trial of Chaos is massively overtuned.
I can't really see how people are expected to do it without failing an excessive number of times at level.
it's just overtuned
the real hilarity
is that both trials are based on the two most hated leagues
I mean I just assume that maybe it's one of those things maybe you're kind of meant to just do at a later point if it's too difficult simply because progressing through Act 1 Cruel without those 2 Ascendency points was not a problem at all
(the 3rd least favorite mechanic is in teh game too as breach and then the last is probably the original ascendancy trial)
Sanctum is one of the more popular leagues if I recall
Even if today a lot of people hate the mechanic
They did do a balance patch on ultimatum last night
it used to be a thing that you'd build your entire character around doing
I just don't understand all the hate for ultimatum as a mechanic I thought everyone was upset when it was removed from poe 1 and took several leagues to return